#tech-chat-2

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frail beacon
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I bought my laptop for $980
I'll have to spend 38% of that just to double my RAM

But yes this is on the lower end though. Till last week the minimum price for 16GB DDR5 RAM I was seeing was $208. It's 187 now. Maybe that's coz I am in Delhi right now and not in a smaller town this week. Some sellers here might be selling it for cheap compared to other places

mossy yarrow
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I see

analog scroll
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2x8gb of Thermaltake Toughram RGB 3200MHZ DDR4 costed me $60CAD used 😎

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I be chillin

mossy yarrow
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Need to go to Kansas...

frail beacon
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Invest $400 in Rockstar
Wait for GTA 6 to hit pre-orders

PROFITTT

-# This is not financial advice

south shuttle
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the cpu's "free" basicly

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average mc bundle

pure garnet
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unattractive asrock board with okay cpu and a stick of ram 🔥🔥🔥

pallid marsh
turbid locust
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@pure garnet I bought diabolically too thick thermal pads so I have to wait for thinner to come in now lmfao

pure garnet
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oh rip

turbid locust
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I swore I ordered 2mm but apparently I bought 4mm

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I did order them while drunk at 3am so like probably my fault

brisk jolt
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now do it again

arctic bronze
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Ram isnt cheap in general so good luck lol

arctic bronze
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Killing 2 stones with 1 bird

hot talon
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What is this cable, and where does it go? (Dont mind the horrendous cable management in the back, thats how my case came.)

pure garnet
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it’s a usb c header

hot talon
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Ohhhhh

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Ty

teal orbit
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you guys ever get a second sag bracket to hold up the psu shroud which is bearing the weight of your entire gpu through the sag bracket

hot talon
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Just to confirm, which one does the cpu fan plug into, im kinda dum

mossy yarrow
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Zotac 1660s in 2026

mossy yarrow
hot talon
teal orbit
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technically you can choose whatever in the bios but the top one is labeled CPU_FAN

spiral quarry
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top one next to the 4 pin argb white header

hot talon
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Ok ty

frank cypress
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then the cables are managed

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🫡

frank cypress
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you can usually disable that but i just plug it in there because it's annoying

low sorrel
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why you shit on p12 max

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they so slient

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if i limit them to a normal rpm

frank cypress
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it's the noise itself, they sound horrible

teal orbit
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do the p12 maxes have the same humming/resonant issue that my p12 pst's have

low sorrel
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I don't hear anything

frank cypress
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also they straight up chopped off the tip of my fingernail before

teal orbit
frank cypress
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they had a very particular but annoying sound i remember

low sorrel
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I just avoid that rpm range

frank cypress
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idk, i wouldn't buy them again

teal orbit
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i should probably buy some noctua fans someday

frank cypress
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but they are admittedly very cheap

frank cypress
low sorrel
frank cypress
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i remember normal p12s being fine

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though im considering picking up some silent wings 4 for my define r5

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than,, or the tl-c14c

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cause it's cheap and pwm

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the fractal fans i have in the define r5 now are DC :/

low sorrel
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it's a fan

frank cypress
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if it's not that much more i'll pay to not have RGB

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oh rgb is cheaper

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by $2 so i don't care

low sorrel
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just

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don't plug in the rgb cable

frank cypress
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for $2 more i'll just buy the non RGB

hot talon
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This is lowk my first actual build is this front looking okay?

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I had some am4 shit laying around and im not done

mossy yarrow
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Lookin goood

frank cypress
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well, i mean you might want to plug the other stick of ram in, if you have that

low sorrel
hot talon
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Sadly not

frank cypress
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single channel ram isn't very ideal

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fair enough

hot talon
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Dont have a second stick

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Im not even sure if these parts all work

frank cypress
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well you'll find out soon

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what's the cpu?

hot talon
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Is there anything else that needs to be plugged in for it to boot and post? Also its a ryzen 5 2600

frank cypress
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yes

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a gpu, so you can display out

hot talon
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Okay which pcie slot do i use?

frank cypress
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top

teal orbit
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the second one, the wide one with metal reinforcement around it

hot talon
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Will it fit there?

frank cypress
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the one that bbaovanc said

hot talon
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I have this gpu im not 100% sure what it is

frank cypress
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meh

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as long as it displays

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probably some radeon amd or ati card given that it's XFX

low sorrel
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470/570/580/480

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I have that card generation

pallid marsh
teal orbit
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the sata hot plug support works on my motherboard which is nice

hot talon
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It says rx570 on the back and 8gb

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Is that good

teal orbit
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i mean it should work

frank cypress
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it's good enough to get the pc working

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🤷

low sorrel
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it's a gpu

analog scroll
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it functions decent

hot talon
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Good for the 0$ i spent on it,

pallid marsh
hot talon
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I was just told that it probably was the psu that was failing so i bought a psu and a case

analog scroll
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my RX 560 can run games impressively well at medium settings so a much beefier card (the 570) should do well for slightly older games)

pallid marsh
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some of us play at chad 480i

hot talon
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Do i need to put my usb-c header in ever?

frank cypress
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i mean... if you want to use USB-C on your front panel, then yeah?

hot talon
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Okay my gpu is plugged in now

frank cypress
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eh?

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put it in the top x16 slot

hot talon
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I didnt think itd fit

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Can try tho

green marsh
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i can see only one screw in the whole picture

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two more on previous picture

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you need to put in all 9, or at least 6, but ideally all.

hot talon
green marsh
hot talon
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After i get the other ones in, can i plug it in?

green marsh
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i would still move the GPU to the top PCIe slot

hot talon
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My uhh power button isnt working

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My motherboard led works but i press the power button and nothing happens

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Looks like this

green marsh
# hot talon Looks like this

yes. If the length of the PCIe power cable allows it, plug the other plug into the GPU instead of the pigtail you have now. Also you might want to route the cable through the back like you did with the 24-pin.

hot talon
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Its still no boot

hot talon
hot talon
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Yes yes i fixed that one my psu has on for my cpu cable aswell

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But my only question is why nothing is working

green marsh
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when screwing in the board, did you use standoffs ?

hot talon
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The things poking out that i could put the screws in? I put it in thoses

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Idk my io shield matched up perfectly if that means anything

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Should i put my ram in a different slot or something?

vestal granite
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oh u said

green marsh
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i/o shield is irrelevant. Make sure the standoffs you put in are where the holes of the board are, and none are anywhere else (they could short the board).

Als you could remove the front panel header cable and short the power plug pins with something conductive (screwdriver?), this way ruling out broken power button or front panel cable. It should be the 3rd and 4th pin in top row (as the label bellow it says)

pallid marsh
frank cypress
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ARGH

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my windows 11 key didn't transfer to this pc

vestal granite
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these shopuld line up with screw holes in the case

hot talon
vestal granite
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thats probably fine, screw in the ones that do line up

hot talon
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I did

vestal granite
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splendid

hot talon
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I just dont understand why its not working, could it potentially be my mobo being damaged?

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Cuz i press the power button and nothing happend

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Or maybe the cpu?

vestal granite
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which light is on

hot talon
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None

vestal granite
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wheres ur monitor plugged in

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on io shield part?

hot talon
vestal granite
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so u hit power button, lights turn on, then whats the problem

green marsh
# hot talon Cuz i press the power button and nothing happend

that is why i said remove the header cable and short the power button pins on the board - you would rule out a bad front panel header. And it could be anything - from not fully plugged in cables to the board, to the not connected cables on PSU side, to something shorting, bad CPU, bad board, dead CMOS battery, broken front panel header cable and so on

hot talon
hot talon
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More than likely, cuz guy who gave me all the main parts (not case or psu) for free mentioned potential damage there

vestal granite
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how about holding the power button

green marsh
hot talon
vestal granite
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yeah no debug LEDs were on so it just aint even trying to boot even though it has power 99% chance parandroid is correct.

green marsh
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take good photos of the connectors then

hot talon
vestal granite
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takes 2 seconds to boot the PC with a screwdriver and that will rule out the front panel connector

green marsh
hot talon
vestal granite
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ok

mild sentinel
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looks..... interesting

hot talon
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Also id like to ask is there ANYTHING that needs to be plugged in that i dont have to boot?

frank cypress
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oh hell yeah

green marsh
frank cypress
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transferred my key over

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to the guy who gave me the free key here you're my absolute goat

hot talon
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Cuz my psu is brand new

green marsh
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it can always be a CPU or mobo damage, but we can't find out that from here

hot talon
green marsh
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from our side, no. Normally one debugs such issues with replacement components, which you don't have 🤷‍♂️

hot talon
green marsh
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to clear CMOS you just disconnect power and short the pins on the motherboard to clear CMOS. Also you can make sure it is not a dead CMOS battery by replacing it with a brand new CR2032 battery, just to be safe

hot talon
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I can look tmmr

green marsh
low sorrel
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@turbid locust can you believe that I'm still up rr

green marsh
low sorrel
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also im done with valorant for the decade

hot talon
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If not ill look for a battery in my house, if not ill go get one

low sorrel
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Also I am infact CPU bound in valorant

low sorrel
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@frank cypress how the hell do you plug in the front panel io

green marsh
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your average powershell command 😄

karmic folio
steel stream
shell void
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holy fricking moly that’s heat

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oh my god it’s based on the dark hero too

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new best am5 board

steel stream
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looks sweet

shell void
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lol the display is OLED

devout ridge
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Oh my fucking god

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They fr just got bored and said "why not"

wraith steeple
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I would unironically buy this

south shuttle
devout ridge
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If i was doing an ATX build, i actually would very much consider that board

south shuttle
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i always ask because some manufacturers mislabel tft lcds as oled

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especially on keyboards

devout ridge
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who cares, it's a motherboard display

south shuttle
steel stream
south shuttle
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cop

devout ridge
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i kinda wish the blue wasn't blue honestly

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that is the only thing i don't love

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replace the blue with copper coloring and i'd cop

south shuttle
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i’d love a cooler made from silver fins

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well, maybe not rn because silver is $$$

devout ridge
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Ask tiffany's to make you a solid silver heatsink

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they'd do it for 100kusd

devout ridge
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i have a feeling someone somewhere has a solid silver heatsink

south shuttle
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ngl i regret not buying the 1kg silver bar back a while ago for 1k

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shit’s 2.2k now

devout ridge
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i regret not buying bitcoin when i was a child

shell void
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is this going to be a mass produced $700 board, or something that sells like 500 units at $1500?

south shuttle
devout ridge
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Gold would actually be best, but who has money for that

steel stream
devout ridge
south shuttle
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it just doesn’t tarnish

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well depending on circumstances might be better than silver or copper

devout ridge
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Oh yeah, silver is better

south shuttle
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but you can also make alloys and layers like gold plated silver

devout ridge
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apparently diamond is more than twice as thermally conductive than even silver, so now we need a diamond heatsink

south shuttle
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but the direction matters

devout ridge
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Yeah

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Boron arsenide is apparently actually being explored as it's a semiconductor

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So if you made a die out of it, it would be really thermally performant

south shuttle
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interesting

devout ridge
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Still prohibitively expensive right now, and there's nothing actually technologically impressive being made with it, but it's a fairly new idea

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Only small issue, is it's made of arsenic

south shuttle
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boron arsenide must be yummy

devout ridge
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Boron Arsenide is also toxic in and of itself

south shuttle
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when you make it and stuff out of it

devout ridge
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Likely will be limited to extremely high end electronics where cooling efficiency really matters

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Like electronics in space

shell void
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@topaz veldt i hope you’re ready to buy another motherboard

devout ridge
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Cooling electronics in space is rather difficult

devout ridge
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but also, HOLY FUCK, that IO is stacked

shell void
devout ridge
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Show

shell void
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gigabyte puts dual 10Gb on their higher end boards

devout ridge
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Oh cool

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Next time i feel like spending a mortgage payment on a server, i'll buy one

shell void
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for example

south shuttle
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that $150-200 board had 14 usb ports total

devout ridge
south shuttle
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just remove all the rog stuff

devout ridge
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i want an AM5 board where they omit all the USB IO (save for like 2 USB 2.0) and full send with balls to the walls networking

south shuttle
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and it’s perfect

devout ridge
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give me dual 40g and use all the bandwidth that would have gone to USB

shell void
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also mcio

devout ridge
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can you actually send me that link?

shell void
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gigabyte is based

devout ridge
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530usd ain't even bad

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Unironically would really consider that for an AM5 server

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Granted i don't really have a desire for an AM5 server right now, but could be cool

south shuttle
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10 or 25gbe

devout ridge
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Or i'd be limited to half height slots, which i don't love

south shuttle
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kk just so you know it’s quite a bit cheaper

devout ridge
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Oh i am very aware

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you can get a 2x 25g nic for like 30-40usd

south shuttle
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mellanox

devout ridge
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add that onto a standard am5 mobo for like 100-150usd and you're chilling

shell void
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having it built in is more based tho

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plus management and properly tested ecc support

devout ridge
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also orientation is more conducive for a server rack, both CPU and Ram orientation

south shuttle
devout ridge
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in 1u, traditional boards have the RAM blocking a lot of the airflow

devout ridge
south shuttle
topaz veldt
devout ridge
shell void
devout ridge
brisk jolt
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we see you

devout ridge
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Speaking of, what should i do with the non-functional R730xd that i have?

brisk jolt
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the vision of regret is there

devout ridge
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Throw it out a window?

south shuttle
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i hope that wall isn’t made from bricks or concrete

devout ridge
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Southern US, made of toothpicks, paper, and a hope and a prayer

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I can dent my walls with a fingernail

south shuttle
devout ridge
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Good thing i don't live in tornado alley

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I do live where hurricanes are quite common though

south shuttle
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i meant your wall attract tornadoes

devout ridge
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I sure hope not

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I need my walls to protect my server rack

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i don't wanna lose my linux ISO's

burnt socket
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my youtube ad not loading 😡

devout ridge
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Youtube has ads?

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haven't seen one in years

brisk jolt
shell void
brisk jolt
steel stream
brisk jolt
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when I asked for a white 4 dimmer board i DID NOT ask for ANOTHER gigglebutt board

topaz veldt
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😬

shell void
topaz veldt
steel stream
topaz veldt
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Its that kind of place

shell void
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they better be hand churning the butter in the prep kitchen

topaz veldt
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but it came with dessert!

steel stream
steel stream
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what did your kids think of the pasta

topaz veldt
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well my daughter had the pasta, shes 4

brisk jolt
topaz veldt
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my son had filet mignon

steel stream
steel stream
topaz veldt
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he loves steak

shell void
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which is the best 2dpc atx board so that’s okay

brisk jolt
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I think… I want the X870E-A neo but for the same price I could grab an apex

topaz veldt
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So you can't do their Matrix GPU on the anniv. X870E hero board

shell void
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i think there’s a normal x870e hero btf, but not the updated dark hero

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i guess it’s not used commonly enough for them to bother

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btf wouldn’t make sense for a modern retro style build anyway

smoky orbit
whole coral
civic reef
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I will convert it into a 32nm foundry

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And produce modern e-waste

brisk jolt
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lite version of the sexy glacial

shell void
brisk jolt
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32 bit vs 64 bit glacial

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meme gpu needs meme price

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ts costing more than a lightning Z

steel stream
fervent chasm
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$525?

steel stream
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DerBauer also said he wouldn't be selling delidded ARL

fervent chasm
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That’s a big markup no?

steel stream
fervent chasm
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Aren’t there devices for delidding

steel stream
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ARL is very easy to fuck up when delidding

fervent chasm
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They just pop up the IHS

steel stream
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the chiplet arch makes it very difficult

brisk jolt
fervent chasm
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They’re literally $280 on Amazon

topaz veldt
fervent chasm
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I’m not saying that’s how it is for these, I just remember seeing the videos of the devices

steel stream
fervent chasm
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I think they were even 3D printable

brisk jolt
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my goat out here giving me a free drink

steel stream
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it's a difficult process

steel stream
fervent chasm
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Is the heating part the difficult part? Or did the guy in the video make it all seem easy

shell void
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no part of it is really difficult, you just need to buy all of the tools and be patient

fervent chasm
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Ok that’s what I thought

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Because it does look simple in the video

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I’d probably still mess it up

shell void
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the most risky parts would be cleaning the die, and scraping the adhesive off of the substrate

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cleaning the dies i suppose now

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rip monolithic cpus

slim pebble
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14900K is the last of an era. Goated

fervent chasm
shell void
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monolithic means that the entire cpu is one single chip, not a chiplet design

fervent chasm
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I guess not monolithic since it’s not one

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But it’s 2 big ones

shell void
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intel’s “Compute Tiles” are the equivalent of amd’s “CCDs”

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just cores and cache in a chiplet

slim pebble
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52 core will be two compute chiplets, with BLLC chiplets and IO dies all separate. no?

steel stream
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are the LPE their own tile?

fervent chasm
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I think so

random flame
fervent chasm
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I remember someone saying it’s 2 ( 8 + 16 ) + 4

shell void
shell void
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all nova lake desktop cpus will have 4 LPE cores in the SOC

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and then there are 4p8e and 8p16e compute tile designs that will be binned into various configs

fervent chasm
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When they do stuff like 4p8e, is it just disabled cores?

shell void
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the 4p8e tile is a separate design than the 8p16e tile, 4p8e is its maximally enabled config

fervent chasm
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Ok because I remember reading sometimes that’s what was done

shell void
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the 8p16e tile will have cores disabled to turn it into 8p12e and 6p12e configs

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similar to how amd disables two cores in a CCD to make a ryzen 5

brisk jolt
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just give me a bllc C390 NVL+ laptop config already pepoJuice

fervent chasm
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I want a panther lake laptop so bad

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I wanna play games with the iGPU

shell void
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real

fervent chasm
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Its no fun watching benchmarks

brisk jolt
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32 Xe3p would be baller

fervent chasm
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What is it now? 12? (For mobile)

steel stream
shell void
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idk how many Xe cores the Razor Lake Halo chip will have

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i just assumed 24-32 because that makes sense in terms of die size

steel stream
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jaykin said 32

brisk jolt
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strix halo who?

steel stream
fervent chasm
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Oh is it just a strix halo competitor?

brisk jolt
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get me a igpu that will smoke the guy who shat on me with his 4070 laptop last year

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im unhappy with this puny 780m

fervent chasm
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Why can’t we have this kind of iGPU in desktop

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No more dGPU

steel stream
steel stream
shell void
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12 Xe3p fits in desktop and there is a desktop sku for that coming

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32 Xe3p is too large

shell void
fervent chasm
fervent chasm
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I mean there’s always mini PCs with the new mobile chips

shell void
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it’s two compute tiles, a 5080 sized GPU, and the memory is on-package too

fervent chasm
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Its soldered?

shell void
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yeh

brisk jolt
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now imagine the 32 xe3p beast somehow goes into a thin and light laptop

shell void
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these halo skus are for ai bros

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they want soldered shared memory

fervent chasm
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Yah but what about RZL

shell void
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yes razor lake halo

fervent chasm
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Oh

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Bruh

shell void
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the memory has to be integrated

fervent chasm
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Couldn’t they do the new weird dimms for mobile?

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CAMM2

shell void
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i think there are 128GB camm2 modules but they’re rare and expensive

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that also takes up way more space

fervent chasm
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Yah I guess

shell void
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ai bros just want 192-512GB of soldered integrated memory in as small of a package as possible

fervent chasm
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But I don’t want it for AI I just want an iGPU that contends with dGPU laptops and lasts on battery

shell void
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they’re buying $5000-10000 mini PCs they don’t care if it’s easily repairable

fervent chasm
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I expected them to be much higher

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You can get them on eBay for like half that sometimes

shell void
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iirc the max spec 512gb m3 ultra mac studio was $13000 pre tax XD

fervent chasm
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There’s no resell market for the strix halo mini PCs

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So they sell cheap

shell void
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amd and intel have no plans to offer a competitor to ultra afaik

fervent chasm
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I have been waiting for an X9 388H laptop on Amazon for months

shell void
fervent chasm
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I mean there is now but it’s third party at $3k or something

shell void
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no need for 100-200W gaming laptops anymore with how good upscaling is

fervent chasm
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Yah

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I wonder where we will be though in a few years with all these ai frames and whatnot

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I feel like it gives a reason for devs to not care about optimizations as much

shell void
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i’m already really impressed by how decent 720p -> 2160p looks with DLSS 4.5 Preset L so it’ll be freaky to see how much improved it is by 2030

fervent chasm
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We will forever be stuck on windows architecture also

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There will never be another “new” os

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I don’t think anyone exists who can dev that low level anymore lol

shell void
steel stream
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I haven't messed with all the DLSS presets

fervent chasm
shell void
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it looks really solid on my 32” 4k monitor viewed from 32-36” away

fervent chasm
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That + fg he gets good frames

shell void
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the flaws in DLSS were a lot more obvious when using my C4 42

fervent chasm
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From 60 to 100+

fervent chasm
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Like noticeably worse

shell void
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it’s probably because subnautica 2 defaults to using dlss 3.5 cnn

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that looks substantially worse than dlss 4.5

fervent chasm
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Wait

brisk jolt
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buy buy buy

fervent chasm
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DLAA doesn’t upscale

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he’s been running the native

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lol

frank zealot
shell void
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DLAA is native res rendering, but with nvidia antialiasing

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instead of the default ue5 taa

fervent chasm
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I should let him know to turn on quality then

fervent chasm
south shuttle
fervent chasm
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but i still dont think we will ever see anything new, it will just keep being built on the current windows

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man 2 hours of sleep is really getting to me

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im hitting all the spelling mistakes today

shell void
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we must return to coding games directly in assembly

fervent chasm
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rollercoaster tycoon

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ima see how much my cognitive skills decline in ow

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actually i dont think it will matter much i main bastion lol

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spray and pray

shell void
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chat is this an optimal grocery haul?

steel stream
fervent chasm
steel stream
fervent chasm
shell void
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akn i always forget that you have a G5

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i’m going to be coming to your abode to confiscate that

steel stream
fervent thicket
#

can debloating my windows give me more ram memory ?
also how do i do that

fervent chasm
#

no it doesnt give you more, it can use less though

fervent thicket
#

yea that

#

how do i do that coz i dont wanna follow some crappy yt video and fk my pc up

fervent chasm
#

probably better to not do it if you dont know more about it

pure garnet
#

@shell void 8400 has now survived the cruncher vt3 overnight

shell void
#

8400MT/s with 2100FCLK is a go

pure garnet
#

yeah

#

i may try 8600 at another time

shell void
wraith steeple
#

Going to be selling some shit soonpepeSmoke

pure garnet
#

should just be 2200 fclk

shell void
#

i don’t think there is 2150MHz FCLK

arctic bronze
pure garnet
#

unless i’m wrong

pure garnet
shell void
#

8000 2000
8400 2100
8600 2150 (i don’t think this is an option)
8800 2200

burnt socket
wraith steeple
pure garnet
#

7800x3d still won’t do 8000 so i guess i just bricked that somehow

steel stream
wraith steeple
#

I'm going to do some pricing to see what I can get out of them (most of what I have are DDR4)

#

Will also be local

patent latch
#

DDR4 still goes for a lot

pure garnet
fervent thicket
#

i asked ai and it said removing pc cache can cause more ram load since everything will require more power to load its resources again..
is that true or what ?

pure garnet
#

if you’re asking ai just leave it alone

fervent chasm
#

bro is the thinker

fervent thicket
#

tell me please

steel stream
fervent thicket
#

16

steel stream
#

you're not really going to be able to do a lot to "debloat" what I would recommend is just doing a fresh install, and having startup apps to a minimum

civic reef
civic reef
#

Oh

pure garnet
#

you get a latency advantage if you keep it synced with uclk in 2:1 mode

analog scroll
#

I guess today's job is the $15CAD laptop

#

cleaning it etc

#

and I've got a robotics teammate coming to pick up a NAS build

hot talon
#

@green marsh from yesterday, ive tried resetting my cmos just now and ive checked the stuff thats plugged in is there anything else i should try?

pure garnet
#

@brisk jolt this is your next board

brisk jolt
shell void
#

looks peak

brisk jolt
#

im not buying that shit bro

#

they didnt even do shit properly

pure garnet
#

io looks pretty solid

frank zealot
pure garnet
#

aside from being 2dpc i don't see any compliants with this board

wraith steeple
# steel stream get that bag

The ram kits are definitely something that TC2 wouldn't want. Most are 64 gig kits of G.skilk Ripjaws.... Though the Ballistix Max 2x16 4000 CL18 kits I have are the most interesting ones I have ATM

shell void
#

bulbasaur is the correct choice btw

brisk jolt
pure garnet
#

the non themed one is like 210 american so i can't imagine this would be a lot more

brisk jolt
pure garnet
#

got an apex when i could've had the peak board instead

brisk jolt
#

this board isnt alluring at all tbh unless its 400 SGD compared to the standard already being at a bumfuck 430

#

also not sure if I wanna try dealing with a gigglebutt bios again

sharp heart
brisk jolt
#

I couldnt fkin find my dude’s shitty b650 trefi setting like dude

sharp heart
#

wp intel

burnt socket
#

no dp alt?

topaz veldt
#

I just taught Dell how their docker deployment works

frank zealot
pure garnet
hot talon
#

Also guys is there a way to check if a psu is working or not without a separate bench?

wraith steeple
hot talon
#

I wanna rule out that my new psu was doa and that my mobo has some form of issue

arctic bronze
#

You need a little adapter thing for the big motherboard connector to test it

green marsh
south shuttle
#

but it doesn’t mean the psu’s fine

green marsh
south shuttle
#

very cheap psus will happily power your pc even when they’re partially broken

green marsh
south shuttle
#

i just meant generally

#

should’ve said that upfront

green marsh
#

anyway, AM4 stuff, 32GB RAM and RX580 4GB gone. Now what do i do with all the spare stuff that remains 😄 . 2x Define C, 1x other case, 4 various CPU coolers, 5 PSUs, 64GB DDR4-3200CL14... 😄

south shuttle
south shuttle
#

i’ve had a case when i poorly reset cmos, system refused to power whatsoever

frank cypress
green marsh
cosmic gazelle
south shuttle
#

try booting without a gpu (only igpu) and a single stick of ram, reduce the amount of components

cosmic gazelle
#

well if it's free i guess i might as well try it

south shuttle
#

and check connectors if they’re right

hot talon
south shuttle
#

i’ve seen people plug 4+4 into a gpu

hot talon
#

I have new cmos batteries now

south shuttle
#

and it refused to power thankfully

frank cypress
#

a dead cmos wouldn't prevent booting as far as i'm aware

#

it would just prevent your bios settings from saving

south shuttle
cosmic gazelle
hot talon
celest wigeon
#

@topaz veldt How much money have you made this year from your RAM hustle

Also Hi

frank cypress
#

wow it's been a while since i've seen that name

south shuttle
#

i was once lazy and didn’t short the header for more than few secs and i probably also did a poor bridge and the mb refused to power

frank cypress
#

👋

celest wigeon
#

Hi Ennui

frank cypress
south shuttle
#

it worked after clearing cmos again

south shuttle
#

thought i had fried something after it refused to work despite unplugging the system from power and repowering

hot talon
#

Okay so its 3rd and 4th from the left top row right? Just to confirm

steel stream
pure garnet
south shuttle
#

i blamed the gpu because it was posting for too long and i was impatient so i reset cmos before it could post

celest wigeon
south shuttle
#

after the poor cmos reset it didn’t even try to post, it behaved ded

pure garnet
steel stream
#

yeah about there

fervent chasm
#

5 ECC ddr5 dimms yah

fringe vigil
#

Why’s there a guy next to me on treadmill and his breath stinks

steel stream
#

jorj stop looking in the mirror

steel stream
fringe vigil
#

What mirror

fervent chasm
#

How you smell his breath from there

south shuttle
#

it’s not that hard

hot talon
#

Holy shit bro my paperclip does NOT wanna go in the thing

south shuttle
#

didn’t try it but with the amount of incidents i see yearly

fervent chasm
south shuttle
#

i began to have doubt it’s all that hard

fervent chasm
#

Or maybe it’s 6+2

south shuttle
#

prob also depends on the quality of your esp connectors

south shuttle
#

for gpu you onoy use 6+2

#

4+4 would fry the card if your gpu didn’t have protections

fervent chasm
hot talon
#

Alright so the paperclip doesnt need to go deep at all to test right? I dont wanna damage my shjt

fervent chasm
#

For my 3070Ti

south shuttle
#

if you would plug in 4+4 and it would work i’d lose it

south shuttle
#

properly

fervent chasm
#

Oh cmos jumper?

south shuttle
#

and that you bridge correct pins

hot talon
fervent chasm
#

Just use a screwdriver

south shuttle
#

no, psu

hot talon
#

The fan isnt spinning

south shuttle
topaz veldt
#

My ram hustle is slowed by my time available i have like 200+ DIMMs to sell

cosmic gazelle
#

aw hell nah how my 30808 slower than a 4060 ti 💔

hot talon
#

Does that mean my psu was doa.

fervent chasm
south shuttle
#

nowadays i prefer using metal housings from rj45 or usb a’s, cause i have them laying around

#

and i know they don’t have coating

#

because they’re supposted to ground

fervent chasm
#

I don’t have any metal housing

#

Wait what metal housing for rj45

#

All of mine are plastic

cosmic gazelle
#

yeah

fervent chasm
#

Oh you mean the female port?

cosmic gazelle
#

1440p non rt extreme preset it's still slower than a 5060 ti

#

i'll be getting 80fps which is not horrible but also less than i was hoping for

steel stream
#

FH6 benchmarks?

cosmic gazelle
#

yeah

south shuttle
#

btw fewgames have rt enabled by default and you cannot disable it and so that might count into raster

cosmic gazelle
#

i doubt it, forza's engine is like from the stone ages

celest wigeon
brisk jolt
brisk jolt
fervent chasm
#

Why does the 16GB 5060 exist

cosmic gazelle
#

the lead the 5090 has is kinda crazy honestly

south shuttle
cosmic gazelle
brisk jolt
steel stream
cosmic gazelle
#

at least i won't have to worry about not having a 3090 as the 3090 doesn't look any better really

fervent chasm
#

Why was the jump in raw performance so little from 4090 to 5090

#

3090 Ti to 4090 was quite large no?

cosmic gazelle
#

yeah

south shuttle
steel stream
cosmic gazelle
#

50 series was pretty mid for raster performance they just crutched on frame gen and shit

hot talon
#

Also is the psu fan quiet?

brisk jolt
steel stream
#

6090 should be a good leap, brand new arch and new process node

fervent chasm
#

Yah in 5 years

cosmic gazelle
#

i hope they rename it to 6900 so that theres a card with 67

fervent chasm
#

6967

south shuttle
fervent chasm
#

Thats if they don’t pivot towards AI entirely

#

My reels have the autistic dating videos all over it now

fervent chasm
#

And it’s all over my reels

steel stream
#

oh the love on the spectrum show

fervent chasm
#

Yah

cosmic gazelle
#

bro

#

i was actually enjoying subnautica 2 and then

#

NON RENDERED CUTSCENES

#

worst shit ever

celest wigeon
fervent chasm
steel stream
cosmic gazelle
#

@shell void this is honestly not performing as poorly as i had expected, i'm on 1440p high preset with dlss q

fervent chasm
#

What you on?

cosmic gazelle
#

3080

fervent chasm
#

My friend plays with 4070 Ti and gets like 110+ with fg

steel stream
fervent chasm
#

So I was wondering because it’s not that far off

#

He dips down to the 90s

cosmic gazelle
fervent chasm
#

Oh he was on high settings

steel stream
#

oh and michael/guilty said something about weird GPU util

fervent chasm
#

I think the issue was also using DLSS DLAA instead of Quality

#

Since its native not upscale

cosmic gazelle
#

yeah i'm going back to high bruh

shell void
fervent chasm
#

The 4070 Ti had like 97% utilization when he was playing

shell void
#

youll get pretty much the same framerate as having everything on High

hot talon
#

Bro, no matter what i do it just refuses to do the checking thing

cosmic gazelle
fervent chasm
#

dinkelberg

cosmic gazelle
#

i still lose like 10% vs high preset

#

but i think it looks better

shell void
#

shadows and effects seem to have the largest performance impact

cosmic gazelle
#

i mean i got 50fps with those on epic and 70ish with them on high

#

so you would appear correct

steel stream
shell void
#

i still havent managed to make dlss override work in sub2

steel stream
#

nv profile inspector maybe?

cosmic gazelle
#

not even close to hitting vram

peak dune
#

do you guys know if there is a prgogram for faulty i9 13 and 14 gen because I thoght there was but idk

steel stream
#

weird, the coral just becomes gray

shell void
steel stream
peak dune
shell void
#

shadows are jagged and buggy, and you can see a difference in the ambient occlusion by just moving your camera around

#

sometimes colors change like you saw in his photos

steel stream
#

ok got it, I thought it was like a texture issue

cosmic gazelle
#

it's enough of an upgrade visually from BZ that i'm not that angry, and the og engine has enough jank that i can regrettably have a neutral stance about them using unreal slop engine 5

hot talon
#

@oblique plover are you still here? I did the paperclip and i can hear a very faint hum when i go RIGHT next to the psu

peak dune
#

do any of you guys know

cosmic gazelle
#

floppa has a 13ks i think

steel stream
#

wasn't subnautica UE3?

shell void
frank zealot
#

yoooooo
That's a throwback design

green marsh
shell void
frank zealot
green marsh
peak dune
#

also how deos the tech support system work. are they mods or ppl jsut respond and give it a while. am I allowed to promote it(idk what to call it) in chats or is that rude

cosmic gazelle
hot talon
steel stream
frank zealot
peak dune
#

not like a bot but ig just asking simialr questions or smthing

green marsh
#

sometimes i wonder about purchase decisions of some people

steel stream
peak dune
#

WHAT THE

hoary hatch
shell void
#

it's based on the X870E Dark Hero platform which is $700, and this is a special color edition

green marsh
hoary hatch
shell void
#

i wouldnt be surprised if it's $1000

green marsh
#

or 8+8 of matching and random 8GB stick it seems

frank zealot
fervent chasm
hoary hatch
cosmic gazelle
#

guarantee you his system runs worse with the extra stick vs without it lol

green marsh
hoary hatch
#

Mmmm backplate

green marsh
frank zealot
green marsh
hot talon
frank zealot
hoary hatch
green marsh
steel stream
green marsh
#

damn, miners ahve a clearance once again 😄

frank zealot
#

It's a boutique bullshit tier of board, it's gonna support 8x8 PCIE Bifurcation. (Or it had better)

peak dune
green marsh
wise bear
frank zealot
peak dune
hot talon
#

Can i get them to send me a new one?

peak dune
#

ik its correct becuase it was a kit lmao

frank zealot
cosmic gazelle
#

is the 270kp better at gaming than the 7800x3d? they're the same price at microcenter now

peak dune
#

i was going to build a pc but gpus shot up right then but corsair didnt update thier prices fast enough

green marsh
peak dune
#

im not saying just because its a kit its correct

#

im just saying its worked for 3y but idk

peak dune
cosmic gazelle
green marsh
peak dune
#

type mb

#

typo*

cosmic gazelle
#

isn't that a b die bin?

peak dune
green marsh
# frank zealot what?

Processor: Integrated Intel Celeron 847 processor with 1.8GHz frequency
Chipset: Intel HM65 chipset
Display: Integrated VGA+HD+PCI-E X16 interface (for discrete graphics card)
RAM: 1DDR3 SODIMM slot, supports 1066/1333/1600MHz
Network: Integrated 1
Realtek RTL8111F chipset for Gigabit network (supports network boot or PXE boot)
Storage: 1SATA3.0+1SATA2.0+1mSATA2.0
USB: 4
USB2.0+2front USB2.0 connector
Expansion ports: 8
PCI-E 16X (PCI-E x1 GEN2 speed), 1*mSATA3.0 interface

frank zealot
green marsh
green marsh
cosmic gazelle
frank zealot
green marsh
#

LLM literally takes 1 core to synchronize stuff. mining even less (just data transfer to/from GPU)

cosmic gazelle
#

i feel like if you tried to run an llm on that thing youd have a pretty tough time

green marsh
cosmic gazelle
#

how many lanes of pcie could a celeron even have

green marsh
frank zealot
#

....

Z890 can run (legitimately without help)

1x x16 Gen 5 GPU
2x x8 Gen 4 GPU (or 1x x16 Gen 4)
1x x4 Gen 5 NVME
1x x4 Gen4 NVME

without needing to resort to trickery to make it work.

pure garnet
green marsh
shell void
#

im terrified of the price

#

the dark hero is already $700 without the fun colors and OLED display

cosmic gazelle
green marsh
cosmic gazelle
#

oh

frank zealot
hot talon
green marsh
#

they took all the chipset lanes and wirrerrd them for 7 slots 🙂

shell void
green marsh
shell void
#

im still allergic to spending a lot on a motherboard even though i love motherboards

steel stream
cosmic gazelle
frank zealot
shell void
#

it was like $630 or something after tax and shipping for the pocket, dock, case, screen protectors, cables, etc

steel stream
#

Ah ok got it

shell void
#

the Z890 Hero dropped to $350 because nobody wanted Z890 which shows how much room they have

#

they sell it for twice what they have to

frank zealot
#

Like if you release a godlike with a custom whole-board waterblock?

That's a 500$ waterblock on top of a board. I get why that's a 1000+ dollar piece of kit.

But a board with pretty heatsinks should not be 800-1200 bucks

green marsh
#

(to be fair mine is not "new")

steel stream
frank zealot
#

other than "bragging rights", "limited edition", or "hurr hurr, I bought expensive board"

turbid locust
#

It’s amazing how every time I drive I get behind the dumbest mf on the planet

shell void
#

even if youre an enthusiast the B850 MPower has all of the features you need for $230

shell void
#

but i just think nice motherboards are cool

#

not that the mpower isnt nice

turbid locust
#

Anything beyond $300 is either purely for flex or is going to serve a specific purpose

shell void
#

but it's a lot less interesting than the X870E Dark Hero, or that new Crosshair

pure garnet
turbid locust
#

Anything beyond that $300 mark is flex, server mobo/actual work, or XOC

pure garnet
#

i'd be fine paying like 450 for a hero

#

glacial/retail apex money is not where im sold

turbid locust
#

a hero would be cool but again atp it’s mostly for flex. Nothing the Hero can functionally do the Mpower or something similar can’t

cosmic gazelle
#

@shell void 5 minutes into this game and the computer already tells you to k yourself, this is just like using chatgpt

shell void
#

i dont really think it's a flex

#

a $700 board isnt much of a flex in 2026 when 5090s are $3500+

young void
shell void
#

it's superfluous yes but high end boards are fun

turbid locust
pure garnet
frank zealot
turbid locust
#

Realistically what is the Astral doing the TUF isn’t

slim pebble
steel stream
#

My nova was $350 which is about where I’m comfortable paying, and it’s a pretty solid board

turbid locust
#

My Z890 Apex was the most amount of money I’ve ever dropped on a board and that was purely for OC purposes. That board never saw a case.

steel stream
turbid locust
#

What I paid lol

#

Which I guess is another benefit of higher end boards

steel stream
turbid locust
#

$400 new from MC

#

The only boards that hold their value really are XOC or rarer current gen/last gen boards

pure garnet
#

this board at $450 new is the most i've dropped on a board

#

but i can resell it for around there somewhat easy

shell void
#

it’s easily the best overall am5 board right now in my opinion

turbid locust
#

$700 board for a $500 chip lol

pure garnet
#

nitropath intrigues me but im officially retired from buying motherboards until new hardware

shell void
#

the apex doesn’t have 10Gb or dual cpu nvme so it’s less interesting to me personally

#

dual cpu nvme is a requirement for me

pure garnet
steel stream
young void
#

For 15$ tripo saves alot of time vs usimg trellis 2 and gives a decent amount of generations that are more precise if anyones bored and saves on the electric

pure garnet
#

i have to use dimm.2 for my 2nd nvme

shell void
#

i like the format dimm.2 but i don’t like that it uses chipset lanes

#

if they put your 8 cpu nvme lanes in the dimm.2 that would be fire

#

it’s in a perfect spot to get some airflow from your ram fan

pure garnet
shell void
#

and you don’t have to remove your gpu to get at the drives

pure garnet
#

the switch wasn't added until the dark hero

#

the 3 slots on the pcb are 1 direct to cpu, and 2 that starve the x16 slot if you use them

#

then you get 2 off the chipset in the dimm.2

steel stream
#

Bdubs does not hit as hard the day after when microwaved for lunch

pure garnet
#

i hope x970e removes the stupid usb 4 mandate

#

losing 4 lanes to something niche sucks

young void
#

Companions to come bless

shell void
shell void
young void
#

In the next few weeks need to add a companion swap menu to pause so they can be changed on the go. Just been busy creating basic models

pure garnet
#

nitropath on the dark hero probably is chilling for any ram adventure worth running on zen

steel stream
#

Yall during the AI revolution can we kill the roombas first

#

They might be one of my most hated pieces of tech

pure garnet
#

mine barely works

steel stream
#

Mine just trapped itself inside a room

#

And just kept bumping into the door over and over

young void
#

Roomba or chicken scooter these are the questions

pure garnet
#

some guy on reddit says asus said it’s $750 for the 2006 @shell void

slim pebble
shell void
#

only a $50 upcharge for a special edition colorway and OLED display sounds too good to be true

pure garnet
#

i’m assuming my apex was from that newegg bundle deal

#

that or it fell off a truck because it was still sealed

young void
#

Probs clear cmos and re enable xmp/expo/docp then dont oc. Good to go let it memory train for 5 mins or so then should boot

#

Ofc thats with not knowing your issue lol

frail beacon
frail beacon
merry stirrup
#

nuhuh

young void
#

Or running xtu or smth

cosmic gazelle
#

alibaba cooler landed in the us yesterday and with how customs is these days i won't have it for another week

merry stirrup
young void
#

What lol

merry stirrup
#

overclocking makes me want to blow my shit smoov off

#

he put 102bclk on a 9800x3d

#

a less than 2% performance increase 😭

steel stream
#

worth it

frail beacon
#

Also
Only one or two streamers who uploaded videos of them playing Forza Horizon 6, and revealed their IDs got banned. I haven't seen anyone else reporting that they got perma banned due to getting the access early.

cosmic gazelle
young void
#

Streaming early access should be fine unless the devs requested not to, still odd though

#

I mean most peeps are pretty generous on early development bugs

merry stirrup
steel stream
frank zealot
#

There's a free game on steam right now, and I'm about 98% sure that if I link it, I'll get warshipped lol