tech-chat-2

[shell void]

https://klipy.com/gifs/pika-nod-yes

ill buy whatever looks the best to me when the time comes

[steel stream]

yeah nova started off around $400, and is now 270

it's also aRL so that doesnt help pricing

[turbid locust]

$200 800 series boards are good

[shell void]

if i was building a PC today i would use these

[shell void]

yeah the z890 hero is half the price of the x870e hero xD

which shows us that heros are supposed to be $350 boards

not $700

[turbid locust]

Valid

[steel stream]

yeah maybe I shouldn't use ARL prices as a reference lol

[turbid locust]

hero is like 500 something gang

[turbid locust]

And it’s arguably the best 4 dimmer

That’s Crosshair broski

[shell void]

yes there is a Crosshair X870E Hero, and a Crosshair X870E Dark Hero

the Dark Hero is the newer model with the option to disable rear usb4 to get a second cpu NVME

the og X870E Hero dropped from 700 to 550 after the dark hero obsoleted it

z890 hero floats between 350 to 450 from what ive seen

[slim pebble]

Dark hero is goated, then there’s the glacial that 5nail5 picked up

[hoary hatch]

Z990 WS 🤔

[turbid locust]

Yeah I’m talking about the Hero not the dark

Dark Hero being released doesn’t eliminate the Hero lmfao

[slim pebble]

Two gen 5 NVME, plus the new 64MB BIOS.

[shell void]

our beloved glacial that is basically a white extreme 2.0

[turbid locust]

well like ykwim

[steel stream]

if im getting a 52c cpu I need a real board

[slim pebble]

The glacial can’t do x8x8 bifurcation, the second PCIE slot is off the chipset

[hoary hatch]

We need a Z990 sage

[shell void]

W980 and some ECC CQDIMMs

[hoary hatch]

Buhhhh wouldn't w980 be a Xeon socket?

[steel stream]

W980 doesn't sound as cool as Z990

[shell void]

naw W680 = Z690/790
W880 = Z890
W980 = Z990

[hoary hatch]

Oh WX90 is the Xeon socket

Yes that's not confusing at all intel

[smoky orbit]

Not really, if I remember correctly w chipsets are for workstations boards and includes stuff like ecc support

[shell void]

xeon 6 hedt is W890/W890E

which as far as i can tell there is no real difference between

seems to be an arbitrary distinction for higher end boards

[hoary hatch]

W890 = Xeon 6 workstation socket
Z890 = LGA 1851
W880 = LGA 1851

[smoky orbit]

(Cause you need a w chipset to have ecc support with intel’s 12th gen and higher chips)

[shell void]

oh the W890E Sage has Nitropath that's fire

[hoary hatch]

So W990/990E would expect to be Xeon 7 of some kind
W980 = LGA 1954
Z9X0 = LGA 1954

[shell void]

there will be no diamond rapids HEDT, and diamond rapids enterprise isnt launching until mid 2027 so we won't see new HEDT for a long time sadly

not that any of us would buy it, save Snail

[hoary hatch]

I mean it can be delayed until late 2028 lol

[fervent chasm]

are hynix or samsung chips better for oc?

[shell void]

for ddr5 udimms hynix is king

[fervent chasm]

i was looking at my mobo ram support and theres F5-6000J2836G48GX4-TZ5NR that says it supports 4 dimms at 6k

[pure garnet]

hynix 16gb a die and hynix 24gb m die are the 2 ICs you want

[turbid locust]

the worst Hynix IC is better than the best IC from any other manufacturer

[pure garnet]

after a couple hours of testing i've came to the conclusion my ram heatsinks suck but im not taking apart the trident z in this market

[turbid locust]

I have no fear

[pure garnet]

im still not full time employed so

i'd rather not blow up a kit that's like $600 to replace

[shell void]

buying an apex with monopoly income is devious

[fervent chasm]

what about micron vs samsung?

[pure garnet]

graduation money went crazy fr

[turbid locust]

it would be tragic if I broke my one H24M kit but I have two scandelous kits already to try first

[turbid locust]

Shit vs Butt

[pure garnet]

i have a set of heatspreaderless h24m in my house though

i'll probably give my sister back her a die and get that back

[turbid locust]

naked barely even helps in the A3

[fervent chasm]

wtf is V-Color ram

[shell void]

you might as well just run those at the auto-trained JEDEC speed

[turbid locust]

Vcolor my fkin goats

[fervent chasm]

ive never heard of it

[pure garnet]

i reflashed the mpower and it's failing 8000 even faster now

skull emoji raised to a power of 7

[pure garnet]

maybe my usb is bad

[fervent chasm]

this is why i ask

[pure garnet]

[fervent chasm]

4 dimm 6400?

[shell void]

vcolor is reputable

[turbid locust]

So this is going to be dual rank H16M which is ok if you don’t intend to do anything high freq

[fervent chasm]

im just trying to see the fastest + highest capacity

[shell void]

what cpu?

[fervent chasm]

285k

[turbid locust]

Oh then you want like 8000 rated imo

[shell void]

the fastest max capacity config for arrow lake is 2x128GB 7200

with the new absurdly expensive CQDIMMs

[fervent chasm]

something is messed up soemwhere tho because my 13900kf was able to do 4x48 at 5400 stable and the 285k with the better imc and new mobo wont post over the auto 4400

[turbid locust]

Why did you even upgrade lmfao

[fervent chasm]

i thought the better imc would maybe let me hit 6k

and not having a shitty board

[pure garnet]

if you want to play with mem take 2 of the sticks out

[turbid locust]

spending like 700 for the thought of marginal at best performance gains

[fervent chasm]

i spent $500 for the cpu, mobo, and aio

thats why i got it

it was a good price and i could sell my old parts for the same

[turbid locust]

spent 500 for the thought of marginal performance gains

[pure garnet]

how dumb do we all think using an nvme enclosure to flashback a bios is

[fervent chasm]

i didnt do it for the gains i did it to hit 6k

[shell void]

fastest flashback of your life

[fervent chasm]

idc if there are gains from 5400 to 6000, i just wanted 6000

[turbid locust]

Do you know how braindead this sounds

[pure garnet]

my mpower like brokey ram speeds so i’m trying to fix it but i think the usb key be bad

[merry stirrup]

is it MBR?

[fervent chasm]

im sure there are tons of OC'ers out there who OC to have a bigger number and dont daily the bigger number for the gains lol

[smoky orbit]

Wait too overkill (trust)

[merry stirrup]

literally me

[pure garnet]

oh it reads it yah but i think it’s just a corrupted copy of the bios it’s loading on

[merry stirrup]

oh i see

[fervent chasm]

i wanted to hit 6k, thats why i upgraded, its not braindead to do something because of a goal

[turbid locust]

I mean I’m sure of it too, because it’s me, but like why dude. Your config sounds like you do actual work so?

[shell void]

i did that

[fervent chasm]

not atm

[turbid locust]

so you’re willfully subjecting yourself to 2dpc OC

[fervent chasm]

yes

2Rx8 2DPC 😄

[turbid locust]

👍

What board anyway

[fervent chasm]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z890-GAMING-X-WIFI7

oh wait i was looking at 200 Plus, they really tested less for the regular 200 series

time to get the 270k p

[turbid locust]

Having a 2dpc board and not specifying speeds based on stock config is braindead

[fervent chasm]

im looking at their memory config page

[turbid locust]

Do better gigabyte

[edgy laurel]

that kinda stuff was already good with RTX HDR in Sub 1 so I have no doubt. Universal UE5 RenoDX is "working" but it will need to be tweaked as its adjusting the whole image. Shouldn't be touching the UI.

[shell void]

im going to start eating drywall if i cant get dlss4.5 to work in sub2

[fervent chasm]

why does the 270kp have more memory support than the 285k

[edgy laurel]

so there is no RR?

[shell void]

nope

[fervent chasm]

did they change anything at all?

[edgy laurel]

good lol

[shell void]

there's also no reflex toggle, you can only get it by enabling framegen

[smoky orbit]

Yummy crumbles

[turbid locust]

newer chip, probably just updated the info. They have the same IMC

[edgy laurel]

i'm tired of cope transformer v1

[wraith steeple]

[fervent chasm]

yah thats what i thought

so maybe dont need the new cpu

[turbid locust]

270K is basically just a factory overclocked 285K

[edgy laurel]

thats kinda wild to see. is that much content missing lol

maybe i'm just jaded by 150GB games

[shell void]

yeah it's in a much less finished state than i was expecting

i found the current world border rather quickly even with the newly reduced swim speed

[wraith steeple]

As a 285K owner, I would suggest the 270K Plus over the 285K without hesitation

[shell void]

and was faced with a prototype leviathan in a barren biome

[wraith steeple]

TBF I got mine way before the 270K Plus was announced

[edgy laurel]

yeesh. I didn't play Sub1 when it first hit EA, it was a year or two later so the game was mostly done

so I don't have a frame of reference

[shell void]

i cant recommend the game as it exists now, it runs terribly, it looks blurry, and there's not much to do

[fervent chasm]

have you guys heard of KLEVV

[edgy laurel]

well I already bought it and I want those devs to get that bonus (thats back on, i heard)

[fervent chasm]

another ram supplier ive never heard of

[edgy laurel]

yes

[wraith steeple]

I have a 48GB kit from them

[fervent chasm]

also i always forget, can you run "an expo profile" on an intel setup?

[wraith steeple]

6000 CL30 at that and Expo

[edgy laurel]

I've seen Intel BIOS screenshots with both XMP and EXPO as options in the drop down

and that was years ago

[shell void]

the game seems to not know how to utilize a 5090 fully

it's gpu limited but at the same time it's not fully utilized

[turbid locust]

UE5 slop

[fervent chasm]

i think i just dont get the options on the gigabyte bios

i feel like even the auto shouldnt be at 4400

[edgy laurel]

lol, i've seen this before. Crimson has this weird VRAM limitation where anything over 8-9GB, LOD starts suffering before it'll use more RAM.

[pure garnet]

watch it never boot again

[edgy laurel]

we believe it to be a feature thats intentional (to keep 8GB card owners from losing performance)

but people that actually have some VRAM are the annoyed ones

[turbid locust]

Kyoko try to not have cursed hardware challenge

[steel stream]

damn I was hoping for a huge map

hopefully it expands in the future

[edgy laurel]

People pushing DLDSR to 5 even 6K are seeing even worse LOD

[pure garnet]

tbh i may have actually just degraded this one on my own

i did go absolutely crazy with eclk

[edgy laurel]

absolutely will do, they can't make that mistake. one of the primary complaints with BZ

[pure garnet]

the chip hard crashed many times to the point it didn’t wanna mem train anymore

[steel stream]

hopefully the game goes deeper than the first and we have some sort of twilight zone

that would be sick

[steel stream]

gotta pray for it

[turbid locust]

fire

[slim pebble]

Getting a $500 open box dark hero isn’t bad either 😆

[turbid locust]

For sure lol

I mean to each their own. My number 1 priority is ram OC-ability, then it needs at least 2 M.2 slots, then it needs acceptable IO

If it checks all those boxes at $200 I’m chillin lol

(Praise be B850Mpower)

[frank cypress]

the fact that the z890 apex is only $370 USD new on amazon.ca is crazy

[slim pebble]

I wanted 10Gb Ethernet (building a SAN), the new BIOS and two gen 5 SSD slots, and x8x8.. I’ll admit that looks played a big part of it

[frank cypress]

damn it's only $100 more than the tuf

[turbid locust]

I don’t care about looks at all it’s going to a black, windowless box.

[turbid locust]

Because the Apex is mid for this gen

[frank cypress]

that bad?

[turbid locust]

I mean it’s not terrible but it’s noticeably worse at mem OC vs the OCF

[frank cypress]

damn

[turbid locust]

It’ll still do 9K tho so

[pure garnet]

it takes more manual intervention but it's still better if you were actually like good at benching since core tuning works alongside mem

by good i mean the crazy good ones

if you know manual term stuff the board is fine

[frank cypress]

ohhh i see

i mean i only own shitty micron ram so i wouldn't buy it anyways but i was just shocked af to see the price

[steel stream]

anyone got any recs for podcasts and such? starting a new commute on monday and would prefer not to listen to music all the time

[frank cypress]

not a podcast but i really enjoy this guy's videos, i usually just listen to them rather than watch:

https://www.youtube.com/@PerunAU

[slim pebble]

The question is whether it’ll be any fun to upgrade to a 9950X3D2, when my 9950X3D already hits well over 5.8GHZ on the frequency cores under PBO. It’s smoking fast. 😆

[steel stream]

Thanks boss

[low sorrel]

I'm CPU bound in beamng drive

[turbid locust]

Notoriously cpu bound game is cpu bound

[pure garnet]

i’ve yet to see anyone get a good sample 9950x3d2 mem wise at least

[low sorrel]

@frank cypress https://www.facebook.com/share/1CgXfdzCsQ/

[slim pebble]

It’ll be paired with 96GB CL26 dual rank, the best I can manage is 6200 or 6400. I’m more worried about what I can push it to with PBO

[pure garnet]

jerry gonna ping you with every cpu bound game for the next week

[frank cypress]

nah i don't want the regular C2

[turbid locust]

he keeps saying this shit like his 5800x would’ve been faster

[frank cypress]

i messaged the guy in chilliwack tho

[low sorrel]

Actually

[frank cypress]

for this vidda c2 ultra

[low sorrel]

You know what I need to do

[steel stream]

Kill him

[low sorrel]

Sell the 5950x for a 5800x3d

[pure garnet]

don’t take any shit from the guy that had a key logger on his phone for months

[frank cypress]

jokes on you

the 5950x is cheaper than it

you're gonna have to pay more for a 5800x3d

[low sorrel]

What's the MSRP of the 10th anaversery thing

[frank cypress]

the what now?

[pure garnet]

🔮

[steel stream]

Jerry please don’t buy that

[frank cypress]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1snoxdy/amd_to_bring_back_ryzen_7_5800x3d_as_am4_10th/

[pure garnet]

rumor mill said 5800x3d was getting reissued

[frank cypress]

ah this

[frank cypress]

i hope it does honestly

it would be good for a lot of people

given how unaffordable platform upgrades are at this time 😔

[pure garnet]

torn because it’s overhyped but yeah it’s a decent drop in if you’re on zen 2 still

[frank cypress]

yeah, which i actually know a lot of people on sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[low sorrel]

What if it's cheap

[frank cypress]

it won't be

it won't be like the 5700x3d at all

you think amd isn doing this cause they're nice and charitable? lol

they smelled the green

[brisk jolt]

respectfully AMD themselves will also be price gouging the shit outta it

[pure garnet]

shit gonna be $449

[frank cypress]

100%

[low sorrel]

If it's 300 us I'm buying it

[frank cypress]

doubt

[low sorrel]

Hi gulity

[low sorrel]

I believe

[edgy laurel]

For me, its actually playing alright. SK doing inverse tonemapping for HDR and ~90fps ish at the starting location. Just Epic settings + DLSS Quality. no FG. @shell void @steel stream

[low sorrel]

Is this subnautica 2

[edgy laurel]

jerry use that noggin

[low sorrel]

Idk I never played subnautica

[edgy laurel]

lots of people talking about it today, just launched.. you can piece this together I believe!

[frank cypress]

is that marvel rivals?

[low sorrel]

It's Forza horizon 6!

[frank cypress]

muehehehe

[low sorrel]

Released today

[frank cypress]

su rely

[edgy laurel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/you-guys-come-on-seth-meyers--k01KRMCSBJT9N3TYQPJMBQ1FGP0

[smoky orbit]

I hate batshit ass isp routers

[low sorrel]

Guilty where's your rs3

[frank cypress]

wait did guilty buy a new car?

[low sorrel]

Is subnautica 2 any good

[brisk jolt]

yesterday*

[edgy laurel]

no

[young void]

Lmao the faces come out so bad sometimes

[low sorrel]

Timezones

[brisk jolt]

skill issue*

[steel stream]

Can’t load this on my phone at all lol

[edgy laurel]

typical discord..

[low sorrel]

This is also an embed fail for me

[steel stream]

Yo how do I see how many miles I have left in my tank on an Audi

Also this is in kilometers

[low sorrel]

You press the right arrow button until you reach the stats page and use the scroll wheel

[edgy laurel]

playing alright here on desktop

within discord

i even knocked back to 60fps instead of 120 to be able to take longer clips @ 4K AV1

[low sorrel]

Oh yeah gulity did you see that I had a keylogger on my phone for months and everything got hacked on Monday and I had to cancel my cards

[edgy laurel]

what the actual fuck

iphone?

[low sorrel]

Android

I'm pretty sure it's from when I side loaded this time last year

[edgy laurel]

well thats fucked

[frank cypress]

on desktop?

[low sorrel]

Amazingly my discord was saved because I got detected as a bot lol

[frank cypress]

it works for me

[low sorrel]

Mobile

[edgy laurel]

mobile player is garbage

[low sorrel]

Anything I didn't have 2fa on got hacked tho

[frank cypress]

doesn't like your high bitdepth videos and pictures lol

[edgy laurel]

the hardware can probably handle it, the software doesn't

[low sorrel]

Try to download it

[frank cypress]

meh im on desktop anyways

[shell void]

all Epic? nothing turned down?

[frank cypress]

working on haircards

[low sorrel]

On what

[edgy laurel]

yeah

[frank cypress]

fuck they make me actually explode

[frank cypress]

game hair

[low sorrel]

Oh

Ngl I still play on DLSS performance even after I got the 4070

[frank cypress]

basically a bunch of stacked planes with opacity

[edgy laurel]

i'll poke around again but I didn't even think it looked that bad for subnautica but i'm comparing it to Sub 1 so.. i dunno what i should be expecting

[frank cypress]

really time consuming and annoying to do, at least imo

[shell void]

yeah youre getting basically the same framerate as my 3.2GHz 5090

this game doesnt know how to utilize a 5090 it seems

[edgy laurel]

huh

[shell void]

~90 with dlss quality at epic settings is what i get too, sometimes it dips to 80

[low sorrel]

Updated drivers?

[edgy laurel]

ok yeah thats basically exactly what i was seeing

[shell void]

mhm i just clean installed about an hour ago

[edgy laurel]

I think im' two or three driver releases behind at the moment.

I set NVApp to recommended and was using Preset K (but I didn't check before doing that if it changed at all)

[low sorrel]

Why not m or l

[edgy laurel]

well, like I said I just set to Recommended

and it doesn't even show up in NVApp properly, had to add the executable

[shell void]

the game still hasnt appeared for me in NVAPP and manually adding the .exe doesnt work so im still using the default dlss 3.5 cnn whatever

[edgy laurel]

make sure you add the right exe

[low sorrel]

Can't you just set it globally

[shell void]

so youre actually getting better performance than my overclocked 5090 considering im using a lower cost upscaling model

[edgy laurel]

...steamapps\common\Subnautica2\Subnautica2\Binaries\Win64\Subnautica2-Win64-Shipping.exe

[shell void]

global only applies to games recognized by or added to nvapp so that doesnt fix the problem

[shell void]

not this one?

interesting

[edgy laurel]

Nope, that won't do it

[smoky orbit]

listening to astrid (doggirl anthem compositor) while messing in my server is such a mood

[edgy laurel]

its typical UE5 stuff, thats not the actual executable

[shell void]

ah yeah this other exe is much larger, ill try the one you mentioned

[edgy laurel]

they always have this same file structure

so i'm used to it from modding

[shell void]

i dont think ive ever added a UE5 game to NVAPP manually before this

usually they just get picked up automatically

[edgy laurel]

happens occasionally on launch day.. then eventually they just show up in there

Stalker 2 took like a month

[shell void]

okay we shall see

but i was already matching your performance with a cheaper upscaler so im not expecting this to be better with preset K

[low sorrel]

Kinda funny how didn't Nvidia have a update just for subnautica 2 and they didn't make it detect the game

[shell void]

yeah they pushed a driver update specifically mentioning this override, but the nvapp doesnt detect it

[brave panther]

have they reverted to the roots of subnautica 1 or is it the same garbage as below zero

[edgy laurel]

tbh i'm not sure of the backend way profiles are pushed to a system

[wraith steeple]

[edgy laurel]

it does not seem nearly finished enough to make any sort of judgements yet

[low sorrel]

I don't understand why games ship without at least dlss 4 if they are using dlss in 2026

[brave panther]

classic subnautica

[edgy laurel]

its in very, very early access

[shell void]

pop up your overlay and see if the SR OVR actually says Preset K

for me it still says Inactive

[edgy laurel]

hang on lemme launch again, I know it did before

[brave panther]

less than minimum viable product huh

[low sorrel]

@shell void I think you need to do the olden technique

And just swap the damn dlss file

[shell void]

[final gate]

Anyone else get this error?

[low sorrel]

Also did you know that games can explicitly block dlss override

[shell void]

wtf

[low sorrel]

ACC blocks it for some godforsaken reason

[edgy laurel]

oh fuck me, @shell void.. stop sweating. at some point my quality settings were lowered

[low sorrel]

What were they at

[shell void]

i dont really mind the 4090 performing similarly to the 5090, im just pissed that i cant get dlss override to work

3.5 cnn is unacceptable

[low sorrel]

What's that like fsr4

[shell void]

worse

[low sorrel]

Did you see that amd is finally allowing fsr4

On 7000 in july

[edgy laurel]

ok i'm back to the same framerate but with FG2x on FG preset A

[brisk jolt]

RDNA2 users found dead in a ditch after seeing their FSR4 timeline

[low sorrel]

Discord really hates your photos lol

[edgy laurel]

told you this many times, have to click them

[wraith steeple]

Discord hates every photo

[edgy laurel]

man FG is good, this feels just as good as it did before

[shell void]

okay that makes a bit more sense

i get ~130 on Epic with Quality and 2x FG

although we can't compare equal dlss presets because the override wont work for me

[low sorrel]

Gulity what are you encoding your videos in

I can't play them on my phone either

[shell void]

you get a big fps boost if you drop Shadows and Effects to High

[edgy laurel]

4K60 AV1 70Mb/s

[low sorrel]

even after downloading

[low sorrel]

Ah av1

[young void]

got a usuable female vampire face finally

[brisk jolt]

Guilty what do you use for your screenshots again?

[edgy laurel]

many things depending on the situation. ReShade if using that, SKIV or SpecialK itself othertimes

These were capped with SKIV

(SpecialK Image Viewer)

[brisk jolt]

Is it any better than nvidia’s AltF1?

[low sorrel]

You know that black text thing that shows up with special k in the bottom left that tells you what dlss preset your using

[low sorrel]

How do you get rid of that

It shows up in every game even after I uninstalled special k

[edgy laurel]

if SDR, doesn't matter. If HDR you're going to get a .jxl file

which discord doesn't play nicely with

[low sorrel]

What makes that different then snipping tool

[frank cypress]

higher bitdepth it seems

[edgy laurel]

hardware acceleration is needed in Discord desktop to view properly

[shell void]

im NGL i dont think Subnautica 2 looks meaningfully better than Subnautica Below Zero, the forced depth of field and general blurry appearance is really hurting it for me

and i get 240-300fps at native 2160p in Below Zero

[frank cypress]

cause regular snipping tool probably doesn't play nicely with HDR

[shell void]

versus 90fps at 1440p in Subnautica 2

[edgy laurel]

Snipping tool does not capture HDR. It captures in SDR then does some weird trickery to colorize the image to look somewhat like it thinks it should.

[cosmic gazelle]

wasn’t BZ like, kinda bad too

[edgy laurel]

I'll need to see more of the game, and maybe boot up the old one

[frank cypress]

most videos are like.... 8 bits, afaik?

[young void]

So closeee

[cosmic gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/avgn-wrist-game-64bits-32bits-16bits-gif-21893457

[edgy laurel]

these images are

[frank cypress]

ahhhh 16 bits per channel, so 3x16... so 48 bit, that makes sense

[shell void]

it's cool that it shows you the color volume

[edgy laurel]

SKIV is great, its replaced snipping tool for me as it can clip regions and not ruin the image

can capture things on a white background now

[frank cypress]

i normally use sharex cause it's nice for making a quick gif when i'm helping somebody with something

have to give that a try sometime though

[edgy laurel]

HDR requires a bunch of special tools lmao

https://www.hdrmods.com/HDR-Screenshot-Guide

[steel stream]

Woah is this new? That’s cool that it lets you see color volume

Color space coverage too

[frank cypress]

oh yeah after using the mr4 for a bit i think they sound way better than the presonus pair of bookshelf speakers i had before, i lowkey want to buy another pair of them for the other pc too

[steel stream]

How much are the MR4s?

[frank cypress]

i got mine for $130 cad before tax

[steel stream]

That’s pretty good

[frank cypress]

yeah i feel like they sound great, but i've never had better so i wouldn't know how they compare to the high end stuff

[edgy laurel]

I don't think so actually'

[steel stream]

I wonder what the percent numbers next to rec2020 and 720 are then

[frank cypress]

im lowkey scared im gonna go down another rabbit hole so im not gonna go down the audiophile route though

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/bullish-bullish-af-buy-buy-moar-crypto-gif-4023638677059070706

[shell void]

@pure garnet your future monitor is almost ready

27" 4K 240Hz RGB stripe W-OLED will soon be upon us

[frank cypress]

i respect it but when i check out the budgetaudiophile subreddit and they're like... "yeah this is a budget pair, but this is the minimum i recommend at least this" and it's like... $400 cad

and im just sitting there like... that's a budget pair?????

[cosmic gazelle]

@topaz veldt this feels like something you'd do

buy 11 9800x3ds and keep the best binned one and sell the rest on

[merry stirrup]

never used LOL

yeah bro for sure mhm mhm

[topaz veldt]

I dunno wtf is going on there

[steel stream]

Anything less will destroy your ears

[topaz veldt]

to be honest when you listen to arya stealth (like $1500 when i got them) to 600S ($400ish ) its like... yeah its huge

[brave panther]

why he didnt keep the box

lol

[fervent chasm]

How close is FSR to DLSS?

[steel stream]

Yeah Meze 109 pro will be my most expensive pair to date, excited for it

[fervent chasm]

Because I’m seeing so many people on an Instagram post saying it’s really close and I’m feeling like it’s cope or Ragebait

[steel stream]

FSR 4 about matches DLSS 3

[frank cypress]

might be all tray

[frank cypress]

that is a hot take

[frank cypress]

gaddamnnnnn

[turbid locust]

Not that hot of a take

[smoky orbit]

I don't usually take instagram reels as trustable sources, this one supports my habitude (I would still get a 9070xt over a 5070TI but fsr isn't that good)

[frank cypress]

idk you will have to pay me to take an amd gpu (i have never owned one)

[steel stream]

Buying refurbed though

[frank cypress]

ahhhh

[turbid locust]

Upscaling only matters if you’re at 4K

[topaz veldt]

Anyone comparing a 5070 Ti to 9070 XT is just not honest

[frank cypress]

i thought bro was dropping 1g on a pair of headphones

[turbid locust]

Mid tier GPUs are destroying 1440p nowadays

[fervent chasm]

This has to be Ragebait why am I getting GPU reels now

[steel stream]

I ball but I ball on a budget

[smoky orbit]

I can send you an hd3400 (it's an ati card tho x3)

[turbid locust]

They were direct price competitors for awhile, and the 5070Ti was the clear winner. Now that the 5070Ti went stupid mode in price it muddies the waters a bit.

[frank cypress]

🫡

[steel stream]

I don’t trust short form content when it comes to tech

[frank cypress]

i will film a video of me tossing it into the river

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-more-than-you-i-know-you-smarter-smarty-pants-glaring-gif-15654642

[frank cypress]

the fish can enjoy it in my stead

[mighty lantern]

Wouldn't be unheard of, that stuff gets expensive.

[fervent chasm]

Neither do I, that’s why I don’t expect it on my reels

Why is there tech on my bullying app

[topaz veldt]

It doesn't matter - I am ignoring pricing that part wasn't mentioned, its like people who think a Kia Stinger GT is an M3

[smoky orbit]

(I have like 10 0f them (cheapo lp workstation cards) so I wouldn't really care

[turbid locust]

It’s the entire point of the conversation

[topaz veldt]

There's so much more to the Nvidia ecosystem than DLSS - its smooth brain talk

[turbid locust]

K

[topaz veldt]

Why buy an M3 when you can just get a Stinger GT for $30k less?

Same thing

[turbid locust]

Literally a valid take

Except not at all because that’s a false equivalency

[topaz veldt]

That is a literal equation constantly bud

[fervent chasm]

Why is there always arguments when I bring something up

[steel stream]

Mac and 5nail are getting divorced and it’s your fault

[topaz veldt]

I get real haircuts

[turbid locust]

90% of users only care about Raster Per Dollar

[frank cypress]

mom and dad are fighting :(

[topaz veldt]

Then get a 7900XTX

[turbid locust]

As they should, because 1080p is still the most popular resolution

[brisk jolt]

@low sorrel everyone reached school just for both classes to cancel themselves

[turbid locust]

That’s not the fucking question

[topaz veldt]

get a 6950XT

[low sorrel]

I will not take kia stinger slander

[turbid locust]

fuck it

[topaz veldt]

Literally a Temu BMW

[fervent chasm]

What’s wrong with temu

[topaz veldt]

Sick car bro what engine does it have? it has.... Turbo.

[low sorrel]

And what's wrong with that

[steel stream]

Nah I agree with you, I don’t recommend 5070 Ti anymore unless the person games at 4K with modern titles

[topaz veldt]

The people who actually think their Kia Stinger GT has the same build and performance as an M3 lol

[turbid locust]

No I’m done talking

[low sorrel]

It's a kia

[topaz veldt]

basically an M3

[turbid locust]

This shit is pointless sometimes

[low sorrel]

So it's also unreliable

[fervent chasm]

What’s the difference in performance

[low sorrel]

So it's also a lore accurate M3

[turbid locust]

guy started driving 4 days ago

[fervent chasm]

I prefer the cheaper faster car over the better looking one tho

[topaz veldt]

Same thing. Its literally the same thing as an M3 no difference.

[brisk jolt]

#nvidiabad
#5090bad
#dlssslop
#mfgslop
#youdontneedmorethanhaswelland1080ti

[pure garnet]

im getting fps drops in fortnite at 8400

[topaz veldt]

They look the same

[low sorrel]

Imma be so fr

[steel stream]

Everything but Fortnite tune

[low sorrel]

The kia stinger looks better then modern bmws

[fervent chasm]

This?

[turbid locust]

If I see one more person complaining about performance in a UE5 game today I might have an aneurism

[frank cypress]

ngl the kia has the better side profile imo

[topaz veldt]

The Kia Stringer GT was designed by a guy who formerly worked on BMW M

[topaz veldt]

yeah if you have a broken neck I guess

[low sorrel]

Now compare the kia stinger to the g80

[smoky orbit]

inhales

[topaz veldt]

No its like comparing a diamond ring to a ring pop

[frank cypress]

i think the curvature on the kia's side profile is a lil nicer

though i don't like the headlights very much

[fervent chasm]

Is the top one the bmw?

[low sorrel]

I recognize no bmw made after 2020

[topaz veldt]

They are both BMWs obviously

one has TURBO

[frank cypress]

tbf, it could also just be the lighting and the colour

[low sorrel]

I've just realized

[brisk jolt]

#ue5bad
#ue5slop

[low sorrel]

I've literally never seen a kia stinger

[topaz veldt]

but if you did look out its an M3

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/tuyrbo-hack-gif-20004374

[fervent chasm]

I like the red body over the blue

[topaz veldt]

A guy at work bought and new and it came with pre-rusted turbo hotsides lol

[low sorrel]

I've sent more LFAs then kia stingera

[frank cypress]

you've seen more than 1? i've only seen one here

[fervent chasm]

All these cars are way outta my league anyway

[frank cypress]

along kingsway about a year and something ago

[steel stream]

People in Michigan love the Toyota Supra for some reason

[topaz veldt]

A kia stinger is out of your league?

[fervent chasm]

I’m happy with my 156hp i4

[low sorrel]

I've seen 1 lfa and 0 stingers

[turbid locust]

5nail you’re doing this on purpose

[fervent chasm]

Anything over $350

[frank cypress]

hmm, i've definitely seen more stingers than LFAs here.....

[topaz veldt]

Jerry has seen stingers and not realized it

[frank cypress]

yeah probably

[low sorrel]

I've probably seen a stinger and thought it was an m3

[topaz veldt]

Prob thought they were melting BMWs

[topaz veldt]

exactly

[fervent chasm]

I see Kia’s the most out of every car on the road I think

[topaz veldt]

MF SHEIN BMW

[fervent chasm]

It’s also the most seen car on auction when I check

[frank cypress]

jerry buy this car :)

also 20k cad but way cooler

[low sorrel]

I would fuck with that

[fervent chasm]

20k is more than I’m willing to spend, limit is tree fiddy

[smoky orbit]

way cooler (and worth the 20k ngl)

[fervent chasm]

I’d rather buy a salvage and drive it into the ground over a new car

[frank cypress]

honestly kinda a bargain for what it is, no?

[smoky orbit]

20k CAd is about tree fiddy usd

[low sorrel]

Why is it kia stinger gt if they don't make gt3 cars hmmmm

@topaz veldt explain this

[smoky orbit]

yeah, assuming it's in good condition, it's an amazing price

[topaz veldt]

because its an M3

[frank cypress]

i wonder if there's any videos online of this thing

[smoky orbit]

maybe, gonna hunt them rn

[low sorrel]

Ennui go buy that car

[frank cypress]

brother i don't even have a license

well neither do you but still

[fervent chasm]

Mmmmm yummy

[topaz veldt]

... what

[low sorrel]

"Like new"

[fervent chasm]

What

[topaz veldt]

That car plays Lil Yachty even when its off

[low sorrel]

Watt

[fervent chasm]

I don’t think cops listen to lil yachty

[smoky orbit]

found tis, might be the owner looking for parts https://www.facebook.com/groups/617337476243375/posts/1606334717343641/

[low sorrel]

Yes they do

[topaz veldt]

that car didn't get there from a cop

[turbid locust]

About to buy a Stinger out of spite

[low sorrel]

Well I know at least one

[topaz veldt]

that car went to a police auction, was bought by a lil yachty listener, and THEN it got that way

[frank cypress]

nah i checked his facebook page, he doesn't have any videos of the car sadly

[low sorrel]

Dude now I kinda want a kia stinger

[fervent chasm]

Anyway, it’s a 2023 with 10k miles

[topaz veldt]

I hope you all buy kia stingers

[frank cypress]

he has a fuck ton of photos of rotary cars though

[fervent chasm]

I’ve been waiting for it to go to auction for months

[smoky orbit]

ohh, sadge time to dig deeper

[fervent chasm]

The last cop charger I was looking at took 600 days to go up for auction lol

[steel stream]

The 2014 Nissan pathfinder rides eternal 5nail

[topaz veldt]

I WOKE UP IN A KIA STINGER

[topaz veldt]

who was teh dude who had a like a rav4 saying it had 800 hp

[low sorrel]

Nah nah

[frank cypress]

wait

[fervent chasm]

This one is nice too

[low sorrel]

All of TC2 buys kia stingers and has a meetup

[topaz veldt]

oh look its a Panamera

[low sorrel]

Kia bois but less illegal

[frank cypress]

nvm i can't ifnd anything about this guy

[steel stream]

Well I read “teh” and thought of KoolCordell but I don’t think it’s them

[fervent chasm]

If you roll it maybe

[topaz veldt]

nah its not them

[low sorrel]

Snail

[steel stream]

How nice the spare is already on for you

[low sorrel]

Golf GTI or STI hatchback

[fervent chasm]

Yah free spare

[topaz veldt]

GSI SNATCHBACK

[fervent chasm]

I love Mazda 3 hatchbacks

Because I have one

[low sorrel]

Mazda 3s are my least favorite hatchback ngl

[fervent chasm]

Here’s my Mazda fr

[low sorrel]

Can we bring back station wagons

[frank cypress]

yeah i just see some posts of him looking for parts for his aw11

[topaz veldt]

best hatchback

[frank cypress]

im lowkey tempted to dm him on marketplace and ask for videos of the car running 😂

[fervent chasm]

What why

[frank cypress]

i hate the c pillar on those cars, they look very ugly

[smoky orbit]

these can be quite fast, https://lapmeta.com/en/lap/detail/13228 different one (potentially), in the same city as the owner, he might have gone the track before, gonna look if they have pic/vids of it

[low sorrel]

It's just... Mid

[shell void]

90% of people have never even heard the word "raster" before, and they buy prebuilt PCs with nvidia graphics cards because that's what they recognize

radeon only has 4% of the market

[frank cypress]

i don't think so

[fervent chasm]

Bruh

[shell void]

very loud and whiney minority online

[topaz veldt]

God bless Radeon

[fervent chasm]

My Mazda gaps all of yall

Weight reduction from the rust

[steel stream]

Who muted Jerry

[brisk jolt]

why is jerry muted all of a sudden

[fervent chasm]

Mutted

[smoky orbit]

it's def not this one, since this one is using an inine 4

[shell void]

jerry spammed "fight" because i replied to mac, and then he got auto muted

[cosmic gazelle]

i just saw this message in isolation when i logged on and thought we were discussing something completely different

[brisk jolt]

the shit spec whiners versus the radeon shitters

[topaz veldt]

lol fuggin gerald

[steel stream]

Also who knew that celebrity jeopardy went to triple jeopardy

I didn’t

[topaz veldt]

why wasn't OJ Simpson on celebrity jeopardy?

[steel stream]

If he was I bet he killed it

[cosmic gazelle]

well that's it boys i finished my undergrad

[steel stream]

Nah he was never on an episode

@low sorrel why are you dming me

Just talk here

[steel stream]

Congrats man

Go do hella coke now

[turbid locust]

again missing the entire point and misconstruing any form of debate for the sake of arguing

[fervent chasm]

Time for grad school

[brisk jolt]

@low sorrel talk or geh

[cosmic gazelle]

lol not in my field

[fervent chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-bird-gif-16835999897918525830

[cosmic gazelle]

honestly kinda bummed that my 3080 will probably barely manage 60fps in fh6 on 1440p max settings, but I usually play with RT off anyways so we'll see how much of a difference that makes

only 3 more days woohoo

[pure garnet]

who silenced jerry

i wanna send them a cake

[steel stream]

Warship

[south shuttle]

every time ubisoft makes graphical update to R6 my 3090 has less and less fps

i wouldn’t even say the game looks better

[pure garnet]

i was gonna buy a 9070xt because it was cheaper and i only really play old games but then i got a great price on my card

[cosmic gazelle]

we're talking about a game that gets like 500+ fps on low with a 1050 ti btw

[south shuttle]

the game just pops more

i wouldn’t say the lightning looks much more realistic

[cosmic gazelle]

lightning

[south shuttle]

idk why game makers add so much of exaggerated reflections

sure it looks cool

[south shuttle]

nooooooo

[cosmic gazelle]

it's really annoying that the fh6 before you buy just covers shit that has been in EVERY OTHER HORIZON GAME

[turbid locust]

No you’re not allowed to consider Radeon ever ever ever ever banned not allowed

4% market share and whatever

[south shuttle]

3.9%*

:]

[cosmic gazelle]

6.7%

[south shuttle]

6.9% if anything

also to anyone that says nvidia drivers are better…

i’ve had a 3060 ti soft brick itself with a blank screen after an update

[shell void]

radeon marketing department is in tech chat 2 rn

[wraith steeple]

[turbid locust]

Autism awareness chat 2

[steel stream]

Shit scram

[south shuttle]

banned

[wraith steeple]

[fervent chasm]

You guys did this to my reels

[steel stream]

You said this and summoned the worse one

[cosmic gazelle]

lmao

[steel stream]

@low sorrel did you get muted again

[fervent chasm]

Tech slop

[low sorrel]

me no

[low sorrel]

answer your dms bro

[shell void]

my analogue pocket and dock are expected to be delivered on saturday that is so awesome sauce

[fervent chasm]

No

[brisk jolt]

2gbps per sometimes

[shell void]

can i have some bandwidth bro

[fervent chasm]

Donate bandwidth

[wraith steeple]

How's TC2?

[steel stream]

Nah you’ve been nerfed sorry

[fervent chasm]

I should be able to resell my unused bandwidth back to the isp

[brisk jolt]

its not consistent its more normally at 1.3

[fervent chasm]

That’s a big difference

+-25%

[steel stream]

Has anyone seen these Amazon health AI ads

[smoky orbit]

I’ll gladly take that over a truly unreliable 500mb/s

[turbid locust]

Yeah

Can’t wait for that shit to tell people they have cancer

[fervent chasm]

Which ones

[steel stream]

Idk if you’ve seen the poison ivy one but god damn AI ads make the people so stupid one

[turbid locust]

I saw that one and the breastfeeding one

“my tiddie hurts” yeah you’re literally breastfeeding OG

I’m no expert in that field but like PROBABLY a correlation

[steel stream]

Huh I went camping outdoors and now I have a rash I wonder what it could be?

[steel stream]

AI ads just make the people have no critical thinking skills at all

Or being able to write helpful messages

[turbid locust]

mush brains

Checks out considering some conversations here today

[steel stream]

Sure I can make a response to this discord users message using your language and phrasing!

Yeah, just no reasoning ability at all

Ah fuck I copied too much

Oh and Gen Z is the first generation showing a trend of cognitive decline when compared to previous generations

[turbid locust]

No reasoning or ability to conceptualize a perception that isn’t their own

[south shuttle]

thought that was gen A

[turbid locust]

Have you worked with Gen Z

[fervent chasm]

Wait let’s go Ultra X 300 series showing up on Amazon finally

$3.2k before taxes for the X9 388H

[steel stream]

Nah it’s Z too https://www.neurology.org/doi/10.1212/WNL.0000000000214226

[fervent chasm]

Need to wait for Amazon to sell more of their own, they’re more reasonably priced

The third party sellers are overpricing like crazy

[steel stream]

I gotta do better cause I don’t want to be stupid

Already teetering on the edge

[fervent chasm]

I feel like this is because of AI

@grok is this true

[south shuttle]

many factors

[steel stream]

Partially AI, younger Gen Z were also more affected by COVID by having lockdown during more formative years, changing curriculums, many things

[fervent chasm]

Oh yah short form content

I forgot about the attention span issue

[south shuttle]

although some studies show gen Z has increased skill in certain sectors

[fervent chasm]

Brain rot

[fervent chasm]

Using the smart phone

[steel stream]

What sectors? I’m curious

[south shuttle]

things like internet navigation ig

[fervent chasm]

It’s gonna be tech yah

[steel stream]

Hmm

I think we’ve gotten worse at navigating file systems and stuff, but internet I can see us getting better

[south shuttle]

i’d generally take the decreased intelligence scores with a grain of salt as there might be a tradeoff

like you know how you have people with increased autoimmune disease rates/chances

[fervent chasm]

Well the kids who went to my high school were definitely stupid

College was different though

[steel stream]

Yeah afaik it’s been only a small handful of studies, just interesting to see what some data leads to

[south shuttle]

it’s been lately found that it could’ve been due to the black plague

people with certain genes could fight off bubonic plague better

but the tradeoff was increased autoimmune chance

maybe the tests those studies conduct don’t measure every feature of our brain

anyways i wish worldwide education would improve

instead of spending mone on pointless wars

[low sorrel]

WHAT

[neat cliff]

Can anyone help me out picking out what to upgrade. Gonna be heading to micro center soon. What should be my first upgrades. This is the current build. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QYHDn6

[fervent chasm]

What’s wrong with the current build

[south shuttle]

ngl i wish google would actually moderate the ads they’re showing to you

every fourth ad is still a scam

[fervent chasm]

Just don’t look at ads

[steel stream]

They’re terrible

[neat cliff]

nothing wrong with it. Just wondering what should upgrade first.

[south shuttle]

most common as far as i know are prop firms that try to conceal that they’re prop firms instead of actual investment firms

[gray mesa]

can i get some help with my build

[south shuttle]

but i’ve seen even blanant scams as such as send $1k now, get $1k every week after a month

[fervent chasm]

How good is 9000 42-56-56-144 1.45V

Discord is Google

[south shuttle]

fast

if you can run that then nice

[fervent chasm]

It’s a 2x24gb kit with that profile

[south shuttle]

not sure about 1.45V though

[gray mesa]

my screen wont start, any advice?

[fervent chasm]

Who knows if it will run though

$900 lol

Oh it’s the new CU-DIMM

[south shuttle]

oh i thought you had that running

[fervent chasm]

No I’m just trying to find the fastest kit I can

[south shuttle]

you need a good motherboard

[fervent chasm]

out of the box kit*

[south shuttle]

and a somewhat ok cpu

to run 9000

cheap motherboards will top out at 7400-8000

[fervent chasm]

I think the z890 with 285k can do it

Gigabyte z890 Gaming X WiFi

I think it showed it can go up to 9200 on that board

But what kit that was for idk

[pure garnet]

x to doubt

we would not be buying apexes and ocfs if qvl meant daily stable for top speeds

[brisk jolt]

i wouldnt bet on a 4dimmer to do 9k

[pure garnet]

qvl is meaninglesss

[fervent chasm]

Are these not tested?

[pure garnet]

not for extended time

[south shuttle]

they might be but not with the most intensive loads

also they might not account for you have a gpu for example

or a case

some motherboards also vary in batches in terms of behavior, same w cpus

@fervent chasm i’m giving it a 1% chance it’ll run via the profile provided, 80% it won’t run and 19% it’ll run but be unstable

[brisk jolt]

if its unstable its unuseable

[south shuttle]

well ther difference between no post and booting into windows

it serves more as a warning

so you don’t boot in windows and start doing regular stuff like updating your os

and assuming it’s stable when it posts

[mossy yarrow]

2 builds so far

[topaz veldt]

Was just working on a MBP 16" for like 2 hours... now on my MBP 14" and its.... weirdly small

[turbid locust]

@pure garnet 8400 is now inexplicably completely unstable for me now

[topaz veldt]

lol fucking ram man

[turbid locust]

No this feels bad

This feels like degradation

1.2V VDDP might actually fucked me, i accidentally left the pc on idling since Sunday

[brisk jolt]

im tempted to buy prem edition fh6 to play now but its irrational

[fervent chasm]

Pirate it

[topaz veldt]

I have never run that high

[digital plume]

1.8v to the dimms

[turbid locust]

Me either, I generally see 1.15v thrown around but I had a convo with Buildzoid and he said 1.2V should be fine and that you’d stop posting before you set it too high but

Literally same settings same terminations same everything just inexplicably errors mad fast now

[topaz veldt]

what imc voltage tho

[turbid locust]

Went 8 hours no error before

[turbid locust]

like 1.15v

[topaz veldt]

imc

not soc

vddio

[turbid locust]

1.5v

[topaz veldt]

yeah see i stay at like 1.4-1.45 max

[turbid locust]

People daily 1.55v VDDIO is not the issue

[topaz veldt]

iunno

[pure garnet]

i've never seen anyone go above 1.15v vddp but that's not great

[turbid locust]

Yeah any chance of this cpu doing 8400 daily is probably chopped

[brisk jolt]

lets hope nothing actually degraded

[turbid locust]

The ONLY difference is ambient temp is noticeably higher but that can’t be the reason cause it errors in like 12 seconds lmao

[turbid locust]

I’m re-running 8200 now

[brisk jolt]

🙏

[topaz veldt]

uh oh @green marsh I tried qwen3.6 35b a3b Q6 lol

grinding to a halt

[shell void]

16" is peak for doing actual work on a tabletop or desk

14" is probably nice for actually using it on your lap

[topaz veldt]

I was using the 16" on my lap

so going to 14" was like omg its a mini book

[shell void]

im using my 16" on my lap in bed right now

it's my preferred size for sure

[topaz veldt]

there is so much more area around the keyboard

always takes me like 5 mins to get used to typing

[shell void]

the blank space to the sides of the trackpad are perfect for resting my wrists while typing

[mossy yarrow]

Holy mother of ram

[topaz veldt]

smol rams

[mossy yarrow]

96gb is small??

[slim pebble]

What am I seeing here except for a very busy X3D2 chip?

[topaz veldt]

yeah in the grand scheme of things

[topaz veldt]

X3D2 shouldn't be busy running LLM lol

[mossy yarrow]

I mean I guess if we're talking about vs supply or volume of produced units

[slim pebble]

Yeah not without using system memory offload. What the heck did you do? 😆

[topaz veldt]

I intentionally tried a quantized version that doesnt fit in vram

but yeah as soon as it starts to creep out of the GPU it slams the brakes

[slim pebble]

You’re going to make me buy one of those CPUs.

Yeah DDR5 isn’t going to touch GDDR7 on a 5090

[mossy yarrow]

I don't exactly have a spare USB on hand to do an installation media, but do I need to update win 10 to the lastest update to be able to install win 11 upgrade in the settings menu?

[topaz veldt]

get one already lol -- I might have a second 96GB kit coming - if thats true I will prob move my LLM build over to the Glacial

[cosmic gazelle]

9950x3d2 is now the bare minimum

[slim pebble]

Yeah my 9950X3D is obsolete trash 😆

[slim pebble]

I probably will, the plan is to upgrade my kids PC to my current 9950X3D from a 7950X3D she has now. She hasn’t been around lately, long work hours.

[slim pebble]

I also don’t want a shit bin 🙁

[brisk jolt]

How much does a 96GB kit cost over there?

[brisk jolt]

$770

[topaz veldt]

6400 CL32 is much cheaper than 6000 CL28

Not that I totally care but thats an Intel XMP kit vs. AMD EXPO

But the 6400 kits are always cheap because they won't run out of the box on AMD

[cosmic gazelle]

alibaba has a "2x48gb kit" of 6000 ddr5 for $472

do you think it's like, ddr3 they send you

[topaz veldt]

yah im sure thats reliable

[brisk jolt]

cant find a 96 kit at cl28 atm

[cosmic gazelle]

matter of fact i bet it's that weird chinese IC that performs like shit

[topaz veldt]

ya

[brisk jolt]

is 6400C32 quite the “shittier” bin compared to CL28?

Or are they close enough that you’d say “I just prefer lower CL”

[cosmic gazelle]

the only 28 96gb kit in stock that exists is the neo rgb and the royal for $100 more foor no reason

[topaz veldt]

its its H24M but they are usually "older" and with XMP profile, 6400 is only going to work 100% on an intel box

[cosmic gazelle]

there's no way the royal is like, binned better or something right

it's just $100 more for no reason?

[topaz veldt]

they are binned

[brisk jolt]

I did get tempted by that 96gb 6400 kit

[cosmic gazelle]

oh interesting

[topaz veldt]

Yeah I would just run it 6000 CL26 or 28, but I wanted a new kit w/ EXPO

[analog scroll]

Ok so I bought a laptop from the thrift store that was last used in 2016 and I want to update it before I connect it to the internet. It has Win 10

how might I go about updating it

[pure garnet]

just reinstall

[brisk jolt]

Isnt EXPO just renamed XMP without the royalties?

[cosmic gazelle]

windows installation media and just delete all the partitions

[topaz veldt]

it can set other shit, but also, EXPO 6000 CL28 is better than XMP 6400 CL32 because it will run

[analog scroll]

w h a tr

[brisk jolt]

oh so you want EXPO just so it runs

[analog scroll]

but how does make update if delete stuff

[topaz veldt]

yeah i wanted a kit i didn't HAVE to manually set

[brisk jolt]

without you needing to set anything else

[cosmic gazelle]

don't use a 10 year old windows install dude

just reinstall

[pure garnet]

wipe it clean set it up as new

[topaz veldt]

my 9950X3D will run 6400 CL32 1:1 96GB, but my 9950X3D2 will not

[analog scroll]

but I don't have the key sticker

[cosmic gazelle]

you don't need one

[pure garnet]

its embeded in the board

it's not 2005 anymore

[analog scroll]

but I don't want the annoying activate windows popup

[brisk jolt]

And my shitbox refuses to do neither 6400 nor 8000 fml

[cosmic gazelle]

once again it's embedded into the board

[analog scroll]

huh

ok

[cosmic gazelle]

the last time you needed an activation sticker was windows 7

[pure garnet]

dw so is my 7800x3d

[brisk jolt]

but urs can do 8000 for whatever reason

[analog scroll]

ok cause this is a windows vista era Dell Latitude D530

and I wasn't sure

[pure garnet]

well it used to

going from the apex where everything is sunshine and rainbows back the mpower shitbox that is just unstable for no reason is annoying

[cosmic gazelle]

someone installed windows 10 on that thing?

i wouldn't necessarily recommend that lol

[brisk jolt]

so the problem is the mpower

Imagine if I just get an itchy hand, grab a white 4dimmer and that shit does 8k

[cosmic gazelle]

i would suggest cachyos with some kind of lighter environment

[brisk jolt]

long shot but would be funny icl

[cosmic gazelle]

anything you don't know how to do you can just ask ai or something, ai's pretty good at linux commands

[analog scroll]

nah the Win 10 is seriously snappy

[brisk jolt]

@topaz veldt yeah these are the only low CL I could find without stupid pricing

[cosmic gazelle]

can you take a picture of the system information page lol

[mossy yarrow]

Ddr5 costing as much as I could build a decent computer for on LGA 1200 or am4 is infuriating

[analog scroll]

can o

you want specs?

[cosmic gazelle]

decent computer

12400f and a like 1650 super or some shit

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah

[mossy yarrow]

You underestimate my power

[analog scroll]

Core 2 Duo T7250, 3GB DDR2 667mhz

[cosmic gazelle]

a version of windows that can securely access the internet is going to perform horribly i promise you

[mossy yarrow]

I got an 8600G, MSI pro x870-p wifi, 650 w seasonic gold semi modular for $250

[cosmic gazelle]

2016 windows and 2022 windows are different

[mossy yarrow]

And they work

[analog scroll]

I still wanna try it

[cosmic gazelle]

then download windows 10 iot ltsc probably

make an installation media using rufus

[mossy yarrow]

Wot

Oh

[cosmic gazelle]

pairing an x870 with an 8600g is a crazy move for whoever you bought it from

[mossy yarrow]

No clue, but a deal is a deal

I would say $275 actually because gas cost me another 25 to drive there

[low sorrel]

NEON NERF @turbid locust @brisk jolt @pure garnet

[brisk jolt]

fuck this game

[turbid locust]

Jerry that was like 4 days ago

[low sorrel]

oh

shows to you how much i've been playing

[turbid locust]

she’s still fine you can’t just brainlessly bhop into sites now and expect kills

[turbid locust]

I’ve played 2 matches in 2 months

[low sorrel]

Too much if you ask me

[mossy yarrow]

Think if I buy DDR5 off Amazon I'll get a brick?

[low sorrel]

no

actually

50/50

[mossy yarrow]

I love gambling

[low sorrel]

you either get a brick or you don't

[mossy yarrow]

I really want a brick

It'll accompany my other 2 bricks

[slim pebble]

No 96GB C26 kits out there? I’m curious what mine is worth now 😆

[frail beacon]

If you buy a brick, will you get ddr5 RAM

[mossy yarrow]

Free ram with every brick? That's a good deal.

[slim pebble]

The one reason I haven’t pressed “buy now!”

[frail beacon]

I regret buying a laptop with ddr5 now

I'm at 2x 8 gb and I need to buy 2x 16 gb to upgrade 😭

[slim pebble]

It only cost your right leg now. You don’t need to walk do you?

[frail beacon]

I have to walk 🙁
But Kidney can be considered-

[turbid locust]

These sticks only getting up to 39C after 25 mins is not giving me hope for when I try the new pads and spreaders @pure garnet lmao

Doing a “before” run on my bare 6K26 sticks at expo

[topaz veldt]

can always return

[turbid locust]

My H24M actually seem to have like the worst spreaders on the planet with the thinnest thermal pad I’ve ever seen lol

[topaz veldt]

Amazon had 96GB 6000 CL26 when I bought the 28, it was $100 more

But my 28 kit does run 26 no issue

[low sorrel]

racism

[pure garnet]

mine cools like shit 👍

i actually reverted all the fan changes i made today because it made maybe a 2-3c difference

[mossy yarrow]

Find marketplace deals and build computers and resell them at what they're "worth". Join the problem.

Maybe after 5 builds you can afford half a stick 🤪

Speaking from experience obv 🗣️

[frail beacon]

Whenever I buy a stock, the stock price plumments immediately after my purchase. So considering my luck, the RAM prices will come down immediately after I do that

[turbid locust]

Like look at this

May be time to let these soak in iso for like 2 days and rip the spreaders off

[mossy yarrow]

Real, I haven't invested in stocks just because of how volatile the ones I want to invest in are

[mossy yarrow]

Cracking the ram before cooking it makes it taste better

[pure garnet]

looks like my tridents

[turbid locust]

Decide an amount of money that would not change a thing for you financially and economically, and invest that.

Best case scenario it goes to the moon, worst case you lose it all but are still ok.

[frail beacon]

yep
I don't invest much, but whatever I did invest in, I did that just before the war... And it's all now in the red. I'm waiting for it to climb up by a little bit so that I can sell it at minimal loss

[pure garnet]

took the mpower apart, completely wiped down the cpu, blew out the socket, reassembled, reset cmos, letting that run overnight

i also have the apex at 8400 doing vt3 overnight before i call it daily stable

[pallid marsh]

@low sorrel upgrade your mouse

[mossy yarrow]

I'm investing in cheap computer parts

[turbid locust]

It’s not an investment. Ask me how I know.

[mossy yarrow]

I mean..

Your mileage may vary

[frail beacon]

It's $187 here for 1x 16GB DDR5 RAM stick
I gotta buy 2 of that 🙁

[mossy yarrow]

That's not tooooo bad

[hot talon]

Does anyone here know how one can get ram, am5 mobo and an am5 cpu for like 400$?

[mossy yarrow]

Broken parts, wealthy benefactors, charitable donors

[hot talon]

I can find all but ram for cheap i believe

[mossy yarrow]

That's the issue yeah

[pure garnet]

buy $400 in lottery tickets and win enough to actually buy that

[mossy yarrow]

A single stick of 16gb ddr5 is probably going to run you $200

[mossy yarrow]

I endorse this message

[pure garnet]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007384/amd-ryzen-5-7500x3d,-asrock-b850m-c-am5,-gskill-flare-x5-series-16gb-ddr5-6000,-computer-build-bundle