tech-chat-2

[smoky orbit]

That isn’t clapped to the ground

It’s gonna be plenty good

[pure garnet]

on intel you can already do that

ln2 freq record is like 12000 something

[smoky orbit]

Really? Damn, nicey

[pastel thicket]

350$ sealed in the box.
so u would say thats a good deal

[shell void]

jedec has spec'd up to 8800MT/s so we'll be going much higher than 9000 with DDR5 overclocking

[smoky orbit]

Really? Jedec is up to 8800 now? It shows I don’t use ddr5 x3

[civic reef]

What CL for 8800?

[merry stirrup]

9000 c36 yc a while ago

[shell void]

the single rank A-grade (high tier) JEDEC spec is 8800 cl62 (~14ns), but most of the time manufacturers only validate ~16ns which would be 8800 cl70 or cl72

[civic reef]

Oh interesting

Oh also
@smoky orbit Just checked my RAM with HWInfo, it's micron!!!

[shell void]

nevertheless we have jedec specs up to 8800, and arrow lake is already unofficially running 8800+ using the memory controller from the core ultra 100 series

[merry stirrup]

i miss this chip i wont lie guys

[smoky orbit]

Yayayayayyayayayayayayay

[shell void]

nova lake is core ultra 400 series, itll be fun to see how high memory can be pushed with a three generation newer memory controller

[civic reef]

CL22-22-22-52
tRC 74
tRFC 560
16.00 x 99.8MHz to achieve 1597.1MHz

[shell void]

you know you want it

[merry stirrup]

i have one 😭 i dont want another guys blown up chip

i have 12700K, 12900KS, 13900KS in possession rn cause the 13900KS hasnt been shipped yet

[shell void]

oh did you get kyoko's 12900ks?

[merry stirrup]

yur

and my power back

and her ocf

[shell void]

👍

[merry stirrup]

12900KS is gonna be my server

[shell void]

i reckon itll do well for that

[merry stirrup]

hopefully

i may give it to my sister depending on how useful the ecores are

may as well give her a little upgrade for no reason if i dont need the ecores

[shell void]

i agree i think that using the 12700K with Ecores off would make more sense

[merry stirrup]

not sure what to do with the chip realistically though the 10700 is still fine

could have a baddass 2nd comkputer but im also buying yokos mpower (b850) and 7800x3d

(the x3d is being ditched promptly after benching it more than likely)

but i also have my 9600x just lying around

[shell void]

youve become a collector of sorts

perhaps a hoarder

[merry stirrup]

not hoarding if its organised nice just a guy who likes puters

[shell void]

i say as i can see two different fully loaded platforms just sitting outside of computers from where im sitting

[merry stirrup]

its boxed up and stored away we good

[merry stirrup]

yeah 💀 at least my stuff is separated

my server is downstairs so therefore it does not count

[shell void]

my fx6300 is still a virgin

as in it ran at stock settings for like one year and hasnt been touched since

might be enticing to an overclocker

[merry stirrup]

i do however use a 4000d as storage

[shell void]

rofl

[merry stirrup]

i have one and its acutally pretty good no lie

[spiral quarry]

I have my old nzxt h510 being used to prop up a printer

[merry stirrup]

fire

the 4000d airflow isnt even bad and i hve all the panels for it i just dont know what to put in there

1st ever new case i bought

[spiral quarry]

Good old brother printer that hasn't ran out of ink yet for a while now.

[merry stirrup]

my second desk is a mess

here’s the power tho

dusty and gross is just how i like my gpus thank you very much

[shell void]

sir youre missing a pcie power cable

[merry stirrup]

this is true because the 580 didnt actually work in the mpower first time i tested it

but when i was done testing the mpower on igpu i didnt want to leave the 580 laying around

so i installed it halfway

[civic reef]

@smoky orbit Error 182 - AMD Software Installer detected AMD graphics hardware in your system configuration that is not supported.

Same error as last time

Should I just install Lenovo drivers

[sharp heart]

7950x cb26 all core

[smoky orbit]

Yeah, probably (unfortunately) (also windows might have already installed an amd driver if so it’s gonna be good enough)

[civic reef]

Lenovo Vantage didn't show any video drivers, and DXDIAG said my drivers were from 5/30/25

11m and 20d ago but it's fine

[smoky orbit]

If you try to run furmark it will tell you if you only have Microsoft’s drivers

[civic reef]

Will install it after steam is done

[smoky orbit]

Oki doki

[pure garnet]

if you just downloaded the latest installer it might be that it doesn’t support the igpu anymore

[civic reef]

Oh interesting

Odd since Vega dGPUs still get support

[pure garnet]

they don’t

[civic reef]

Oh huh
AMD still has them on their drivers website unlike RX [XXX] though

[civic reef]

Where btw?

I don't see anything relating to drivers

[smoky orbit]

If you’re on Windows’s basic drivers it will straight up refuse to launch

[civic reef]

Oh
Lmao

Also woohoo I got great results

10 FPS

[smoky orbit]

Yeah, very simple pass/fail test i use

[smoky orbit]

And that’s way better than my desktop and server’s igpu (my desktop is a 5600gt (with 64 mb of vram and my server has no igpu (my laptop might have a better one but I don’t think so))

[civic reef]

Well tbf it's 64MB of VRAM

[smoky orbit]

Yeah, it’s only for debugging basically

[civic reef]

Oh lmao
That's silly

[smoky orbit]

Yeshshshshhs and useful (once a year tho 😅)

[civic reef]

It's only 64MB sooo, no issue,,,,,

[smoky orbit]

Yep, only using it with my engineering sample a770

(Basically)

[pure garnet]

igpu allocations are dynamic

the 64mb is just the minimum it can reserve

[young void]

Lmao

[lavish aspen]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1502789498919059662

Can anyone help me with this?

[young void]

Im just a hotdog in the wild with no eyes

I myte not even be real

Buttttttt include your pc specs and if it occurs with any other titles

Not my cup of tea but I hear good and bad things keks

[civic reef]

I definitely need to repaste my laptop

Oh wait no I don't

~49-55° C is within okay laptop idles

[subtle hinge]

does any1 know why its so high (i have 32gb)

[smoky orbit]

Yeah, kinda

[civic reef]

Not worth voiding my warranty over it rn, atleast

[pallid marsh]

Because things are using it

[subtle hinge]

ik but the math is not mathing

[smoky orbit]

True

[subtle hinge]

its about 13 gb geting used but its says 26 is

[smoky orbit]

Probably using swap

[subtle hinge]

? what is that

[smoky orbit]

“Fake” ram on your ssd

[subtle hinge]

how so

[smoky orbit]

Your pc uses your ssd when you don’t have enough ram to not crash

[brave panther]

unused ram is wasted ram

[subtle hinge]

it saying i am useing 26gb i have 32

[smoky orbit]

Yeah, sometimes the computer will use swap when non critical stuff and/or unused stuff is still running, your pc is fine don’t worry

[subtle hinge]

it was bc i am playing rus (ik 😭 ) and i am geting like fps drops when my gpu and cpu are only around 30% use

i payed for the whole cpu i am trying to use the whole cpu

[smoky orbit]

Enable xmp (or expo) in your bios

[subtle hinge]

i do

[smoky orbit]

Ohh then it’s probably just a game issue (I think)

[subtle hinge]

☹️

[leaden dawn]

Windows is pagefile

[smoky orbit]

Yeah I forgot how it was called on windows

[shell void]

@turbid locust i see that youve had an eventful saturday

[smoky orbit]

[pure garnet]

what an offer

[shell void]

make it an 8TB model and i’ll consider it

[pallid marsh]

How much is the board $800?

[pure garnet]

$1200

[pallid marsh]

My lord

And it comes with no ram

5070ti monies

[pure garnet]

5nail has one

it's a good looking board

[merry stirrup]

wonder if ill see one

[pure garnet]

what the hell

[topaz veldt]

Its a fantastic mobo.... albeit expensive

[charred osprey]

beautiful

[topaz veldt]

Here's a fun one from last week

Can you make out the circle holes?

[pure garnet]

5nail do you use the dimm.2? i’m considering an apex

[topaz veldt]

I use it in the glacial

[pure garnet]

does it affect ram temps much

[topaz veldt]

on the glacial no, on the Apex I am not sure

its not that close

like its not as close as the 2 DIMMs themselves

[pallid marsh]

cost as much as my 5700x3d,x570 mobo, 32gb ram and 9070xt and 2tb gen 4 SSD

[turbid locust]

They gave me so much Evan Williams the last time I flew. Bless American Airlines.

[pallid marsh]

I want to see what the profit margins are on the $1k+ mobos

[pure garnet]

correction: i bought an apex

[topaz veldt]

well probably pretty high, but it has a screen on it

crazy VRM, a screen, pogo pins for an AIO, Nitro Path DIMMs, unique IO covers/heatsinks, etc.

it has a white q-code read out which is wild

dual 10 gbps nics

[pallid marsh]

Smh Asus give me more spec about the display

4" LCD display is all we get

[topaz veldt]

its like IPS or something, not OLED

The resolution is listed in the asus armory crap

[pallid marsh]

I want to know what the refresh rate was to know how difficult it would be to play flappy bird on it

[topaz veldt]

actually they call it OLED on gemini but i dont believe it

ASUS calls its "LCD"

[floral spear]

Hey Snail

[pure garnet]

the flight i booked actually gives me free spirits on the plane

so i may take advantage of that on the way back

not the way there i am not blind routing dc drunk

[turbid locust]

My last flight got rerouted due to weather and we landed at a much smaller airport and it took forever to get cleared again. We sat on the tarmac for almost 2 hours and they just kept handing me bourbon

First class is worth it (thanks employer)

[pure garnet]

im going through ronald regan so it's gonna be packed

[merry stirrup]

i need ddr4 lga 1700

[wraith steeple]

I haven't flown domestic in almost a decade at this point

And a few years shy of two decades overseas

[floral spear]

Hey uh gamers

How do you feel about paying full price on a video game?

[devout ridge]

It is indeed what the vast majority of people do

[floral spear]

Mmmm

I want to get FH6 but its previous game was a disappointment

[wraith steeple]

Though TBF my passport (Syrian because that was what I was born with) is over 20 years old at this point and is well over due for a renewal

If I can even find it

[topaz veldt]

hi

[late atlas]

What are you on about

Fh5 was amazing

Fh4 felt lackluster

[floral spear]

The most mid game of all time

[late atlas]

But fh5 brought the improved sound design and realistic smoke, and a great map

Forza horizon 4 deserves the most mid Forza of all time title not 5

Also fh6 looks extremely promising

If you want to get it cheaper just go to your usual popular game key websites

I'm talking as someone's who's collectively put 1000s of hours into the Forza franchise, from Forza horizon 1 to 5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzcVMvrh52w

This video does a really good job of showing off the game, it's details, the map, new things which previously weren't in the game

Take a watch for like 5 minutes and you'll see that this is the best Forza to come

[sharp heart]

as someone that came from nfs franchise, fh5 felt very normie friendly and with boring story, but decent missions/tracks and the game looked pretty and cars drove nice

[pure garnet]

5 felt identical to 4 to me

[late atlas]

What differentiated 5 from 4 for me was that. 4's overall atmosphere, map, sounds of the cars felt mid, it just didn't hit right

But to me Forza horizon 5 hit it, the map was yeah you could say boring because big desert and open spaces but for me it was better and more interesting

Car sounds felt a lot more lively and the overall look of the game and modification of cars just felt better

Doing the Goliath I felt more interested and felt more scenic than Forza horizon 4's Goliath

Although I will say, tracks were better in 4 than 5

[young void]

Lmao

Oh snap Jerry's in there

Accepted

But that top ones ridiculous, maxicooo lol

[random flame]

Wow, so apparently my little brother comes home for a day and half unexpectedly (I guess it's because it's my birthday, so maybe that was his excuse for it this time, lol) and he literally asks me what I want, just because I didn't know what to get.
Welp, too bad I didn't completely know what I wanted to narrow down to one, soooo.... I made him choose his poison.

[indigo walrus]

Look, they just want to tell you about their crypto opportunity...

[young void]

Happy birthdayyy

[random flame]

Gave him a list of 5 items to choose from, then figure out what he can afford to get. Lmao.

[random flame]

T h a n c c ~ !

[young void]

Never hurts to have a few choices

[random flame]

Arranged from cheapest to priciest too:

Item 1 - (new) Steam Controller

Item 2 - Aorus Pro Ice X870i mobo

Item 3 - Ryzen 9900X

Item 4 - Huion Kamvas Pro 16 (2.5k)

Item 5 - Behringer JN-80

[young void]

All solid choices fingers crossed on the 9900x

[random flame]

The pain of the first and the last is the first one is already sold out and scalped for the first release batch for now and the last one has yet to come out and so basically is pre-order only.

[young void]

Ya never know

[random flame]

Meanwhile, the middle ones are only easy because they're all still on the market with predictable pricing.

Yet, knowing him, he's gonna probably pivot for the Steam Controller, without realizing the inherent challenge involved with just getting a hold of one at all. Lol.

Though really, I am leaning in on the 9900X too, or at least the JN-80, most particularly the latter.

[sharp heart]

gameplan, have a list from affordable to expensive, so you give them an illusion of choice, but in reality everything besides the most expensive thing is so sold out you cant get one even if you wanted it

[random flame]

Well, it's only going to be the first one, the cheapest that I want that is sold out.

The last one, which is the most expensive on the list, has yet to release which will be in June.

And the thing about it is that it's a Juno-60 clone, which only reviewers have ever played around with. There's no validation of it's quality yet for certain.

And we can't use the DeepMind 6X/12X, which are Juno-106 clones, as a realistic comparison to set up expectations either.

[turbid locust]

@topaz veldt I hope you know what you started

[topaz veldt]

what what

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-sassy-dance-weirdo-butt-gif-5962764

Sorry not sorrrry

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/atlanta-lakeith-stanfield-creepy-smile-creepy-gif-2838775962290957578

[young void]

XD

[wraith steeple]

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/honestly-im-not-sure-not-really-sure-jennifer-aniston-nodding-gif-16603525

[turbid locust]

[topaz veldt]

oh word

[turbid locust]

I’m not sure my cpu will do it

[topaz veldt]

That is some wild VDDP

[turbid locust]

I agree

[topaz veldt]

I haven't tried 8400 yet

Just 8300 CL34 tight max trefi

I think it should do 8400

8300 running 120ns

Literally no aida difference between 8000 CL32, 8200 CL34, 8300 CL34

[turbid locust]

I can’t tell if the cpu won’t do it or I just need to go extreme autism mode on the terminations

[topaz veldt]

I did some best practices on apex ODTs

plus ASUS has crosshair tweak

I ran karhu for like 4 hrs and then played Arc for 2 hours, no probs

[turbid locust]

Mpower seems to mem clock easier than my Gene unfortunately so no Asus sauce for me

[topaz veldt]

it only works on 6000 cl26 ID"d DIMMs anyhow

[turbid locust]

same settings dropped to 8300 just kinda seems to go?

[topaz veldt]

Did earlier fail

[turbid locust]

first time trying 8300, 17 mins and counting now

about to go back to try 8400 again tho

[shell void]

i gave up on karhu a long time ago because a config could be 48 hours stable in karhu and then fail 8 hours into ycruncher vt3

seems like a waste of time to me

[pure garnet]

are you using h16a in the apex?

i wonder if i'll have a better time with freq since i use h24m

[shell void]

did you find a deal on an apex or did you say fuck it and drop the 700 beaners?

[pure garnet]

450 sealed box

[shell void]

sounds nice

[pure garnet]

i wanted the big girl board if i was gonna try and chase funny speeds

mpower is fine but im picky

[shell void]

i worry about how pre-x970e 1DPC boards will behave with Zen 6 if the rumor about having the IMCs split across two IODs with a new dimm layout are true

but if it's fine then the X870E Apex is a great endgame AM5 board

[turbid locust]

Considering swapping over to my H24M to test but I’d have no terminations to go off of

[pure garnet]

i feel like there's gotta be some way in software to mitigate it but i will also cope if an x970e apex comes and dumps on the board

[shell void]

yeah it's not a big deal, $450 on a board that you could easily resell is not the end of the world

zen 6 x3d probably won't be available at reasonable pricing until mid 2027 anyway

[pure garnet]

i may be full time employed starting monday so buying another board in a year won't really be a giant deal

my b850 mpower is wired in the slot 2 and 4 internally so i can also just a/b test with it

[shell void]

itll be really funny if zen 6 fixes the packaging bandwidth problem, but then creates a new problem by splitting each memory channel across two IODs

effectively limiting you to single channel bandwidth without latency penalty yet again

[turbid locust]

Update, don’t think my 9850X3D can do 8400

[pure garnet]

a brand new x870e taichi ocf was almost tempting but then i remembered how much was missing from my ocf bios

[turbid locust]

But 8300 seems very possible

[pure garnet]

8300 is just such a weird number to me

[turbid locust]

With that being said, 8200/2200 funny

[pure garnet]

like it's a valid ratio but it feels like a typo

[shell void]

high psl with no appeal

[turbid locust]

Considering a max effort 4400 tune to please Michael

[pure garnet]

i would love to do 8400 with 2100 fclk synced or 2200 fclk but if i can't get that high i'll figure out something

[shell void]

i tried running 4400 with 2200fclk yesterday and my pc couldnt get past the training process

it just really does not like 2200fclk

[turbid locust]

my chip does 2200fclk at 1.3vsoc so

[shell void]

i have golden cores and IMCs with clearance sale infinity glue

[pure garnet]

i've never tried 2200fclk at lower socs

i only tried it trying to do 6600 at the same time

[pure garnet]

did you see my 7800x3d cores?

[shell void]

i remember being able to post 6600 with 2200fclk on an older bios

but it was very obviously unstable

[pure garnet]

bin of doom

[shell void]

because of the infinity glue

[pure garnet]

mine posted but was also unstable

i got into os but failed stress tests basically instantly

[shell void]

it's not that bad to be honest

like yeah it's not +-15mv but also 7800X3D has no headroom anyway, and it's not like you have a 125mv variance

[pure garnet]

the 95 core just feels bad being stuck with the 89

maybe i retest co once i have it setup again

[shell void]

7800X3D is the ultimate "just run it stock" cpu

it already runs at like 0.95-1.05v ootb and has no headroom

it hits 95c at 95W there's no fun in tuning it

i have a new interest

seems like an easy and fun mod for my battle scarred ags001 gameboy advance sp

[pure garnet]

just do not change the button membranes, all the third party ones feel worse

handheld legend is where i got parts for my gba/gbc builds

[shell void]

oh youve done this before? cool

[pure garnet]

i didn't do an sp i did the regular gba but i've done gameboy modding before yeah

[shell void]

i was looking at the aluminum shells from Boxy Pixel but i don't think i want to spend $250 on my gameboy that i probably won't play for more than a week

the Ayn Thor seems like a more worthwhile purchase if im going to spend $250+

[pure garnet]

my gbc has the laminated ips kit which is quite pretty

[young void]

To be or not to be

[shell void]

i saw that an old blackberry amoled display fits the gameboy color quite nicely

sadly no OLED mods for the GBA because nobody wants to pay for a display manufacturer to put out a custom display

[pure garnet]

that might be a recent development, i last did a mod in 2023

[cosmic gazelle]

unfortunately i am focused on the fx 6300 oc now because im in far too deep

but once i’m done with subs i will be trying a 4400 tune on my daily

[random flame]

Lol, definitely a good one though.

[cosmic gazelle]

@pure garnet did you hear that the oc instability was actually motherboard related and the chip itself is fine

just as i suspected

[pure garnet]

i saw i've just been a bit busy past few days

[shell void]

i think it started popping up in 2024

[cosmic gazelle]

naw just asking lol i don’t expect you to gasp with excitement

[shell void]

i wish the analogue pocket targeted the gameboy advance aspect ratio instead of the gameboy

i mean i respect the gameboy and gameboy color, i have numerous cartridges, but gameboy advance was the true peak

[pure garnet]

gameboy form factor is nostalgiabait but the gba had better games

[shell void]

🗣️

[steel stream]

oh shit this reminds me to see if we still have that old iPod

[hoary hatch]

Just built the Gameboy LEGO set today

[turbid locust]

optimal

[shell void]

that's gigachad behavior mr carter

[hoary hatch]

GBA was my first but man, LEGO killed it with this set

And the build manual has tons of nostalgia vibes for the olds

[shell void]

senor mac 4400cl24 is latency equivalent to 6000cl32 you do not need 1.6vdd XD

you can probably run 1.25vdd

[turbid locust]

aware

[shell void]

i am a wear 🧥

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/pants-invisible-dance-gif-4811429

[turbid locust]

bout to run like 850mv vsoc

[turbid locust]

1.1v would be funny

but other timings need a little volts

[shell void]

if these are your god sticks then maybe

[turbid locust]

they are

[shell void]

i think 0.85vsoc and 1.25vdd sounds good

[turbid locust]

think this a job for the greensticks considering the pmic doesnt like to unlock on this board

my green sticks do 6000c28 at 1.35v iirc

[shell void]

yeah god dimms are a bit wasted when youre limited to 6000cl32 latency equivalent at 4400cl24

i have a spontaneous urge to go make a couple of grilled cheese sandwiches

[turbid locust]

Anyways time to plug my side monitors back in, load the daily profile, and play games again

[young void]

Blue mushroom

[indigo walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/badger-badger-badger-mushroom-mushroom-mushroom-iggydr-gif-18197905

[young void]

I was nervous breaking down 2d generated images with 4-8 items per image myte break alittle in quality but still comes out nice

This one was in tripo but trellis 2 should be similar quality

So now to clip a ton of things shall return xD

[brisk jolt]

thats a hilariously high vsoc for 4400

[turbid locust]

aware

[topaz veldt]

yup

[steel stream]

ok I now have a iPod nano 3rd gen

[shell void]

i may have burned the outside of my pinkie while moving the sandwiches around the pan with my hand

[shell void]

[steel stream]

ok I just destroyed what might be my last remaining 30 pin cable

the cable came out, the metal part of the male usb stayed inside the mac mini

whoops

[turbid locust]

it took two matches after a 2 month break from the game for riot to completely obliterate my MMR again

W game

[wraith steeple]

[young void]

Not sure what im going to make yet but there will certainly be levers and buttons that say not to press them, that'll send one to dark placesss

Also get warshippped suckaaa feeeshhh

Lizard

[cosmic gazelle]

it’s so pretty… and huge geez

[burnt socket]

microsoft copiloting b(lack)sod when

[pure garnet]

you need an x870e apex to put that in

[turbid locust]

Titan pascal?

[teal orbit]

need

[cosmic gazelle]

titan black

it works

[topaz veldt]

im so hungry

[brisk jolt]

same

[cosmic gazelle]

i had to swap psus because the one i was using has a different fucking 8 pin pcie pin out????? so my corsair cables don’t work?

i am very irritated

[turbid locust]

I grilled a chicken breast at like 3am the other night

[cosmic gazelle]

elite upstairs roommate activities

[wraith steeple]

I am also having the past midnight cravings

[turbid locust]

I occasionally have to remind myself I have free will

[brisk jolt]

there is no way this costs this much even today for pretty mid specs

[pure garnet]

pc was built before so we want 10x more? lol

[cosmic gazelle]

what is that in freedom shekels

[pure garnet]

about 4500

[brisk jolt]

4.4K USD post 19% tax

[cosmic gazelle]

oh wow that’s horrible

[brisk jolt]

dude that is a horrible build

[turbid locust]

19% tax? Your government hates you lmao

[brisk jolt]

10% elec 9% gst

[cosmic gazelle]

you can get that exact build for like, 1500 at microcenter i bet

[brisk jolt]

before the crisis yes

[turbid locust]

no like right now

[brisk jolt]

brochaco my case is more expensive, with a 5070Ti, 2tb 990 pro and shit is still half of whatever that abomination is

[cosmic gazelle]

not a great comparison

[brisk jolt]

paid top price for poverty specs

[cosmic gazelle]

but a better cpu

[turbid locust]

like this exists lol

[cosmic gazelle]

wym

not in singapore lol

[turbid locust]

I’m saying it’s attainable

[turbid locust]

I know that

[brisk jolt]

nvm I opened comments

[cosmic gazelle]

oh yeah i thought you were saying “like this exists” like its out of stock

[cosmic gazelle]

still a pretty shit price

[brisk jolt]

shit still more expensive than my ITX

and also gets smoked

[cosmic gazelle]

9700x bundle at mc is what like 400 rn?

[turbid locust]

$570

[cosmic gazelle]

550 w ram

[brisk jolt]

dude I dont understand where 400 SGD of his went, what makes it even worse is that this is before the crisis

[cosmic gazelle]

kind of a shitty motherboard but what can you do

[brisk jolt]

so literally I dont know where 600SGD went

[cosmic gazelle]

just buy a titan black for 37 dollars

i will be attempting to run arc raiders i’ll have you know

[pure garnet]

just buy an apex

[turbid locust]

Board isn’t even that bad, rated for 8000MTs

Gigabytes 4 dimmers are kinda cracked

[brisk jolt]

somehow the dude I sold my H24M to does 8000 on a 2dpc board on AMD

im constantly catching strays

[pure garnet]

any non eagle gigabyte board is fine with me

the eagle line is just offensive in lane allocation though

[turbid locust]

Not that hard for 800 series boards

[cosmic gazelle]

as i was saying im surprised the titan works because the seller was clearly on (stimulant) when they took the pictures

[turbid locust]

There’s gigabyte mATX 4 dimmers rated for 8200

People were doing 8000 on the tomahawk all the time too

[cosmic gazelle]

like look at this shit bruh 😭

[pure garnet]

the 3 x16 slots that are wired as x1 offend me

[turbid locust]

And then of course the Hero with nitropath doing like 8400 lmao

[brisk jolt]

its a X870E gaming plus wifi from MSI so quite literally I keep getting the shit imcs

[pure garnet]

i say this like im not required to use the dimm.2 on the apex just to use 2 nvme but

3 x1 slots

[brisk jolt]

is this similar for intel arl 2dpc boards for arnd 8k

[pure garnet]

i run 8000 on my z890 master

[brisk jolt]

also apparently apple wants to add cameras to airpods now

[turbid locust]

no clue but there’s many affordable 1dpc z890 boards so like

[pure garnet]

yeah the duo and the ocf go for peanuts

even the apex is cheap comparatively to usual pricing

[cosmic gazelle]

i sure love motherboards that default to sata ide and not just legacy uefi combo

[pure garnet]

im sorry what

[turbid locust]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q8KnTW/gigabyte-b850m-aorus-elite-wifi6e-ice-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b850m-aorus-elite-wifi6e-ice thinking about grabbing this for the daily and using mpower for bench

[turbid locust]

open box maybe?

[pure garnet]

has to be

rip da gene 2026-2026

[turbid locust]

Gene is definitely better for XOC but like all I do is mem

and like 8400 MemTryIt boots on Mpower lmfao. I couldn’t get 8400 to post on Gene

[cosmic gazelle]

mac do you know what msi oc genie button actually does

[turbid locust]

no

[pure garnet]

yeah i think the gene/apex don't handhold until you hit a point where some niche asus test bios thing saves you

[cosmic gazelle]

i wanna try it once i get this lame ass mbr windows installed

haven’t figured out how to do it yet

[turbid locust]

Yeah I don’t think so. Even then it seems like you can just kinda copy what their boards do and get 90% there lmao

[pure garnet]

maybe i'll cook and get 8800 working or something

seems like 1:1 and 2:1 don't match qualities at all from what i've read on ocn

[turbid locust]

wdym

[pure garnet]

like you can have a cpu do 6800 1:1 but that doesn't mean you can do high 2:1

[turbid locust]

every chip I’ve owned goes against that notion

[brisk jolt]

wallahi

[turbid locust]

my only chip capable of 6400 1:1 is the only one that does 8000 lmao

[pure garnet]

my 7800x3d does 8000 but not 6400 or >2000 fclk

[brisk jolt]

yeah time traveller moved a chair wrongly and ur 9850x3d ended up with another guy on ocn

[pure garnet]

but i will find out shortly i guess

12th-15th 🙏

[brisk jolt]

6300 sample

[turbid locust]

I still want a 9950X but meh

[pure garnet]

being able to use xmp on amd with these dimms for the first time is kinda neat as a fallback even though i still won't use it

[turbid locust]

I’m still salty that my 9600x is almost as bad as my 7700x IMC wise

I’ve owned probably 6 non APU AM5 chips and 1 of them does 6400 and 8000

[brisk jolt]

im salty my 7600X has a better imc than my 9950x3d and yet cant do 6400

[pure garnet]

every chip i’ve owned does 8000 but i honestly still don’t get how some don’t

like i understand some don’t but like, it’s half the uclk so what is the actual issue?

[brisk jolt]

must be the amd bloodline issue 🔥

[turbid locust]

your cpu still handles the refresh timings

cycles I mean, I guess

so if your IMC is shit it can have trouble calculating those cycles at too high MCLK

independent from UCLK

At least that’s my basic understanding

[pure garnet]

that makes sense it’s just still odd to me

[brisk jolt]

everyday i do something with ram im tempting to get a 270k

[turbid locust]

Don’t

Intel ram tuning is just gaslight simulator

[brisk jolt]

i wont

[turbid locust]

I like AM5 cause it works or it doesn’t

[brisk jolt]

i really want nvl

[pure garnet]

see i sold my ocf so i have no arrow lake fomo

[turbid locust]

All my Intel shit is gone

[brisk jolt]

my new h24m is 0.01v better but is unable to do 160ns

[pure garnet]

i still have the master but it’s getting boxed relatively soon

once the apex shows up i have a 1tb drive to put in my mpower

[turbid locust]

I just remembered I still own an HDV

[brisk jolt]

that $580 apex is tempting but i dont view it as a “need”

[turbid locust]

If I trusted that board to reliably do 8000 I’d probably use it for daily

[pure garnet]

i lowkey just kinda got bored and bought one as a graduation present to myself

[brisk jolt]

How much was yours?

[pure garnet]

450 for a sealed one

[brisk jolt]

damn.

[turbid locust]

Mpower we ball

[pure garnet]

time to run 4400mt daily

[turbid locust]

FACTS

[brisk jolt]

welcome to the cult

[pure garnet]

x670e-e is being kept in retainer as a reliable backup but it is slightly sad seeing it fall apart entirely in 2:1

[turbid locust]

the black SKU of this board is $130 more expensive lmfao

[brisk jolt]

im still salty about the guy running 8k on the 2dpc board

[turbid locust]

I’m telling you this is not uncommon

[brisk jolt]

im still salty regardless

[turbid locust]

You just have to have a chip capable of 8000 lmfao

[turbid locust]

this board is rated for 8200

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/xylibanned-trapped-in-jar-trapped-halp-gif-6991355193835834107

[turbid locust]

I need a 9950X capable of good gear 2 so I can do good bandwidth shit

[brisk jolt]

I want a chip that can do 8k gear 2

[pure garnet]

gene might be good for that

[brisk jolt]

do I need one? no

4400 cult>

[pure garnet]

there’s some setting dom toggled on the 9950x3d2 on apex that gave him like +10mb/s in karhu

[turbid locust]

lol fire

[turbid locust]

I’m genuinely planning to test it myself

I want BZ to do a video on it so bad lol

but the 4400 config only works if you have a chip capable of 2200 FCLK

[brisk jolt]

compared to 7600C38 at 1200 FPS I got a more consistent 1240 FPS on valorant…. but yeah that isnt impressive considering X3D or whatnot

[turbid locust]

Yeah i think it matters less on X3D, might have to test on my 9600x at 7800 I guess

[cosmic gazelle]

holy SHIT

it took the better part of an hour and a hell of a lot of chatgpt but i got mbr windows to boot

my goodness that was needlessly complicated

[cloud vigil]

question: why MBR?? are you running this on a pre-UEFI system???

[cloud vigil]

ngl I barely notice the difference between timings on my 7900X3D

except on the non-X3D cores ofc

of course, to maximize performance, I have disabled all hyperthreads on my 7900X3D. As well as all of the non-X3D cores. And AVX-512. and other power viruses like AVX2, SSE4.2, and AMD64. I have reduced it to a single core with 64-bit mode disabled, it runs Windows 10 32-bit

[final snow]

Have to rma my gpu now

[green marsh]

@topaz veldt i am using computers for decades and today i learned, that in Windows File Explorer if you go to a folder you want to run something in, then you click the address bar and type in the command you want to run (like cmd for Command Line or code . for VS Code), it will actually run the command with that folder as the work folder. 🤯

[maiden prairie]

Neat

[reef lance]

iCar goes hard.

[thin juniper]

🤣

[karmic folio]

[cloud vigil]

I haven't used windows in forever, but can't you right click and "open in terminal" on any folder?

[livid flame]

X3D has been proven iirc to make minimal difference. Hardware Unboxed have a good video to show this and sometimes its situational on games. Productivity iirc was even less of a difference. They made this video because AMD were claiming 1% difference in gaming for using 4800 v 6000 memory for x3d and AMD were basically correct after testing

AMD boosting ram sales saying ya needed 6000mts ram then trying to boost their own sales now ram is sky high saying ya don’t need 6000mts ram

[karmic folio]

u can but i dont think a single soul uses that

[reef lance]

I just did it for no other reason to say I have.... I didn't do anything after opening terminal, but I did open terminal! No but forreal though I'm sure that has some good uses but I have just never needed to use terminal for regular folder things. I'm sure it has great uses though, and doing it that way can be faster than navigating to the folder in terminal itself.

[burnt socket]

it better be 'ergonomic' inside

[frail beacon]

It's actually quite useful
When you need to cd into some directory to use some commands, it's easier to get there this way

[bold robin]

if 9700x is cheaper than 250k plus, should I get 9700x

[cloud vigil]

yeah, I also use it if I don't want to cd into an absurdly long file path.

[burnt socket]

cd downloads or cd Downloads

my pinky better work when im cd'ing

[livid flame]

Are you gaming 90% of the time?

And do you intend to upgrade your cpu in the am5 life cycle?

[bold robin]

I use Excel and game

[livid flame]

Second question is the most relevant then

[bold robin]

I dont own a pc

[livid flame]

IIRC 250k slightly outperforms on average for games. So if you don’t intend to upgrade, choose either of your choice. If you do intend to upgrade or want the option, go 9700x

Personally the option of a potential upgrade path of x3d in the future or the next cpu gen or 2 would sway me to 9700x

Alternatively a 7500/7600x3d is cheaper and on average better than a 7900x across most games and if it’s only excel for other stuff, you’re golden saving more money

If you mainly play stellaris and Minecraft, stick 7900x. Other games that use cache? Go cheaper 75/7600x3d

9700x sorry*

[burnt socket]

i was thinking 7800x3d but sure

[brisk jolt]

all roads lead to am5

[burnt socket]

where else would we go anyways

[brisk jolt]

lga1954

[karmic folio]

truly but its just easier for me to type it in here than wait an extra second for the right click menu to load on win11

lmfao has to load

[burnt socket]

the what

wow

1851 didn't even get two years
new record

[livid flame]

Ideal for x3d but assuming he’s wanting same price or cheaper than 250k, he would go lower

[burnt socket]

saying it cuz couldn't find a 7600x3d

and stuck on a 7600

[livid flame]

Most regions without a 7600x3d have a 7500x3d

[burnt socket]

hell we have both (either or both are imported but able to find locally)

[livid flame]

Not sure how they will stand the test of time with lower clock speeds but the cache is boosting them well for a budget entry that tbh you should considering over a 7600/9600 for sure

[burnt socket]

our country is the assembly for these chips

[burnt socket]

well amd ain't playing intel's game

I can upgrade 2 gens ahead

[green marsh]

the point is that you can type ANY command in the address bar, and it will execute that command in context of current directory. So i can go to a folder and type code . and it opens Visual Studio Code there.

The PCIe power cables in this build for sale are making me feel sick

[brisk jolt]

nothing like ketchup, mustard, ranch, hot sauce, BBQ sauce, sourcream

[tawny summit]

so I did an autopsy of my A1932 now that I got me a new hotness and

holy fuck

good thing I got a new batt for it before shit really hit the fan

but looking back, it's kinda demented that it went 804 cycles over the maximum

[livid flame]

It’s why I’d rather go with that over a 9700x. Still got an upgrade path

[maiden prairie]

Just move in your files with the terminal

[karmic folio]

What

[livid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-wait-what-gif-9000717621307637538

[burnt socket]

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-14634295

[karmic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-whar-whar-what-cat-whar-cat-cat-whar-slow-blink-orange-cat-whar-slow-blink-gif-6291533950402242103

[green marsh]

and the point is that you can call any tool which is in path like that. Powershell, Git bash, Visual Studio Code, Python, whateverelse.exe 😄

[brisk jolt]

https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-geforce-buyer-gets-radeon-cooler-five-months-ago-another-user-got-the-opposite funky

[livid flame]

We like these mistakes

Makes me wonder what backplates I could swap out on my amd card and put an Nvidia one on

Can even see an empty screw hole in that pcb that shows someone clearly put the wrong one on

[turbid locust]

Have you guys seen the Xbox Mode coming to windows? Basically first party Microsoft Steam big picture mode. Actually seems really cool.

Makes me wanna build an SFF pc for downstairs lol

[maiden prairie]

I don't see the point of big picture and yes I have a living room pc, I just have a wireless mouse

[turbid locust]

It’s convenient to navigate with a controller

Like I have that Logitech keyboard with the trackpad too but

It’s convenient to just have one input

[maiden prairie]

I don't agree, especially when you need to type in something

And yeah we have the same keyboard lol, though the trackpad is garbage

[turbid locust]

I don’t find myself needing to type things very often in a casual couch gaming setting

but when I do, I grew up on Xbox Live. I can type a hate message on a controller in seconds lmfao

[maiden prairie]

In this case I literally just double clic on my game and it launches I don't find it slower or less convenient than using the controller

[turbid locust]

I just think it’s perfect for someone that wants a casual console experience but is a pc enthusiast

Like I own an Xbox for downstairs but I barely use it ever because I’m not bought into the Xbox ecosystem. All my games are on Steam/Epic/Individual Titles

I can’t justify a gamepass subscription for something I barely use

But if this new Xbox Mode works well and gets good support, I could see myself building a 5070 based SFF build for downstairs and using it as a console with PC games lol

[maiden prairie]

You won't have you steam games on it no?

[turbid locust]

It’ll support every common launcher

Steam games seen here

Kinda cool that you can theoretically just… build your own Xbox with this

There’s still a place for the actual Xbox console of course, the value is practically unbeatable

[pure garnet]

i tried it on my steam deck it’s pretty solid

[turbid locust]

W

[pure garnet]

you also don’t have to use the xbox app as a launcher, it’s modular and other people wrote new front ends already

[cosmic gazelle]

turns out 4 sticks of ram on amd fx is also shite

who would have thought!

[turbid locust]

[cosmic gazelle]

whelp nvm it's not the 4 sticks it's just the imc

[pure garnet]

https://8bit2qubit.github.io/omniconsole-site/

[cosmic gazelle]

@merry stirrup with both 2 or 4 sticks my board, ram, and imc will only either do 1600 with 2400nb or 1866 with 2200 nb lmao

woe is me

still far better than the other board but kinda bummer

[random flame]

Hhrrrmmm dunno...

[brisk jolt]

@turbid locust is this the lianli table u were referring to?

its ass bcs its only dual legs lmao

[random flame]

... Wow.
So cheap af, man.

[turbid locust]

Yeah lol

[shell void]

oh wow monitor sized QD-EL

[steel stream]

wow

[shell void]

it seems to have shit viewing angles for a self emissive display

[south shuttle]

eco-friendly? yeah not really

also what does protective of eyes hardware level low blue light mean

i mean the panel is probably good but i don’t like the misleading marketing

[shell void]

im not sure what the reference point is for this claim

less than 20% of the excess blue light leakage compared to what?

i assume a typical backlit LCD but idk

[south shuttle]

15% less co2 but is it really?

what about other possibly toxic compounds

co2 is not nearly the full picture

[south shuttle]

i’m not sure if it’s intentional but they make it sound like blue light damages your eyes

also if you shift wavelenght of blue light you’ll lose accuracy as it gets more green

blue light only disrupts your sleep and rhythm, it doesn’t damage your eyes directly. UV, xrays, gamma do.

well unless you emit so much blue wavelenght radiation it burns your retina or something

anyways i doubt new technology would be more eco friendly as those first units will be pretty much more polluting than mass produced oleds

maybe if more people buy it’ll become less polluting but, you know you’d have to pollute first more

[merry stirrup]

what’s wrong with dual leg tho(

[young void]

Reee?

[pure garnet]

i must get 9000mt working on my 9800x3d

[smoky orbit]

There’s been a recent study that challenges the claim about the effects of blue lights, apparently the original study compared reading a book to reading on a screen at full brightness and they redid it with a book and low brightness screen

[smoky orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-rainbow-imagination-box-gif-12387358019437193946

[languid nimbus]

hypothetically speaking, can I connect a 650w psu to a hp proprietary motherboard using adapters?

[merry stirrup]

i’ve literally stood on kne of those 2 leg standing sitting desks

[young void]

Floppa if you get bored you should make a 2d floppa npc image

[remote drift]

if someone can tell me why this massive gap diff in price, much appreciated

[smoky orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-not-i-dont-know-maybe-we-dont-know-gif-4965071280460852343

[young void]

And ill make you into a secret npc model

[languid nimbus]

I just wanna upgrade to i7 9700k and a 2070S

and 250w psu would rather hang itself

[smoky orbit]

I have zero idea if adapters are available

[young void]

Can be a mage or a cow or a snake or a floppa imaginations the limit, floppa the talking key

[languid nimbus]

aliexpress might work

they got everything

[green marsh]

i suspect old vs newer delivery. Also get the Gigabyte anyway,

[green marsh]

having said that, not sure if the pricing of either makes any sense, do you need more than a 5070 Ti ?

[merry stirrup]

idk how you mean

[young void]

Justa asking grok to make you an image of whatever you want to be with a blank background is a fast model

[smoky orbit]

grok

[young void]

Snail for example

[young void]

Faster then Gemini whatevers clever

[smoky orbit]

They basically encourage cp

[young void]

What

Non the less floppa just make a 2d image whatever works lol

[smoky orbit]

They won’t block it from making cp, instead people can pay to be able to make cp

[young void]

Gross

[smoky orbit]

Yes

[young void]

I have 4 kids so like thats head chopped territory, I just use it as a tool

[smoky orbit]

That’s still encouraging grok and giving them free advertising

[merry stirrup]

okay lol i will when i have the chance

[young void]

Just if you want to no biggie

[merry stirrup]

im awake but i took benadryl as soon as i woke up so i feel weird

i hate having alrlrergies as bad as i do

went back to 9000 ram for daily

[pure garnet]

i’m gonna do it on am5 trust

[merry stirrup]

💀

idk if rcd can go lower (it can, i have a screenshot of it working at 52) but idk if ill need more than 1.5 for that

[pure garnet]

i’ve been seeing some more 8800 setups on ocn lately

8400 would be peam for me but i’ll be happy with whatever

[merry stirrup]

yur

[pure garnet]

can’t blame the board this time

[merry stirrup]

😭

[wraith steeple]

[merry stirrup]

1.4 sa 1.45 vdd2 1.43 tx(both equal) 1.5 vdd

my chip/ram hates above 1.43 vddqtx and idk why but it seems to be the play

my theory is that asrock doesnt have high voltage mode working properly for dimm tx

[merry stirrup]

327MB/s in karhu cache default

5.3 all p core
4.8 e
4.2 cache
28 ngu/d2d

fast 👍

[south shuttle]

in my theory you can damage your eyes by staring at an object that's at still at the same position for multiple hours a day, using your screen during the day it's a lot better than during the night, so eyes don't get the same exposure to chemicals that get released from day light during the night, so i'm pretty sure you can also get blind or lose the ability to focus just by staring at a wall everyday just like you stare at a screen everyday as there's no physical difference in reflected photos vs emitted photons, only the count and wavelenghts are different

[pure garnet]

my chip just explodes regardless of tx 👍

[south shuttle]

basicly just train your eyes by focusing on stuff and sleep well to preserve your sight

[merry stirrup]

i think my chip just has a pretty strong imc

i dont think ive seen anyone w/1.4 sa for 9k daily

(i also have not looked in recent weeks)

[south shuttle]

my eyes aren't the best so what i do is focus on my finger really close and then look at something that's far and my sight gets little sharper

[merry stirrup]

this guy is same sa but mc is +50mv

[south shuttle]

i used to be able to read tiny text from quite far

[pure garnet]

i’m trying to read up on what vddio and vddp actually do

before i just start throwing voltages at my cpu at random

[merry stirrup]

fair

😭 do you want the 9600x to blow up

[remote drift]

let me explain to u why

[pure garnet]

nah i’m gonna just be winging the daily tune

[merry stirrup]

fair

not a ryzen guy so im not super inteerested in it but the mpwoer will probably help

its just been geekin on my desk

[pure garnet]

once the apex shows up im throwing it in the epoch and just making a quick 8000 setup

then i’ll start going above once that’s sorted as a daily profile

[merry stirrup]

fair

ive been slowly working my recent daily up from 8 to 9k again

[remote drift]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/compare/#50-series

[merry stirrup]

went back to an older bios, 3.12TL03 seems to be the goat so far

[remote drift]

click on view full specs, scroll down

4, 4k monitors 165 hz

im finna go with 1x XG32UCWMG and 5x XG32UCWG

do u understand my crisis now?

[merry stirrup]

"crisis"

[pure garnet]

i feel like this is larp but the ventus is considerably worse than the master to answer your question

[merry stirrup]

just use your igpu

[merry stirrup]

indeed definitely dont get the ventus

[remote drift]

yeah ive heard some nasty things about the ventus

[pure garnet]

$5000 in displays but only a 5080 is interesting

[remote drift]

well

im sorry but a 5090 is like 5k$ CAD

here we talking about 2,2k$ Cad, and i only buy it for display capability

[pure garnet]

and you’re buying 5 oled monitors lol

[remote drift]

yeah cause idk what market will look like in that department

[merry stirrup]

so youre going to burn in 5 oled displays at once

[remote drift]

?

[merry stirrup]

i FW this idea heavy!!

[remote drift]

oh yeah and im using a professional splitter for the DP on the igpu from mobo

so that way i get full 165hz capabilities

[pure garnet]

a professional splitter?

[merry stirrup]

professional flopper

[smoky orbit]

Yeah, pretty sure there’s no “splitter” that lets you drive two different display from one port of the computer

[pure garnet]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExbXExeGlrcXY3emtxbmI5Znlid3NzcDBlOXBkZmNpZG1kMGQwZG90NyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/oxneRsW7BhamwWi0Gl/giphy.gif

[smoky orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-rainbow-imagination-box-gif-12387358019437193946

[pure garnet]

i mean i think the x870 mandated usb ports can do displayport but that’s an adapter and not a splitter

[smoky orbit]

Ohh interesting feature, but yeah, pretty sure no such thing as a display (dp or hdmi) cable “splitter” exists

[remote drift]

DP MST hub

[pure garnet]

amd mandating you waste 4 pcie lanes on usb c ports you likely don’t want

[remote drift]

but nvm that, i lose bandwidth and it wont work

[merry stirrup]

geek bar

[pure garnet]

if you actually need 5 displays just get 2 gpus

[remote drift]

cant do that

[pure garnet]

why

it beats the shitty adapters

[remote drift]

because i dont have space

[pure garnet]

so get a better case

[smoky orbit]

Get a cpu with an igpu

[remote drift]

i have i7 13700k im good

im gonna 4 monitors on gpu and 2 on mobo

[pure garnet]

if you have money for 5 oleds you can pony up for a bigger case

[remote drift]

case is big enough but fitting 2 gpu monsters will be impossible

[merry stirrup]

tiny one

[remote drift]

i do have a 1080ti tossed around though, but the goal is missed here

i dont need more gpus to drive my last 2 monitors

[pure garnet]

i don’t see much of a goal here

[remote drift]

i need to support the weight of the gpu tho

so i wont get rid of that holder

[pure garnet]

just get a holder that doesn’t waste a pcie slot

[remote drift]

that holder is not plugged into the PCIE

and any holder will gut my 2nd gpu entrance

[pure garnet]

https://www.amazon.com/Graphics-Brace-Support-Holder-Bracket/dp/B09FPJL1KY/

[remote drift]

yeah i have like 3 of these

but u do understand why it wont work yeah?

[pure garnet]

not really

[remote drift]

how can i put that in when i put a 2nd gpu below my main one

[merry stirrup]

you dont need a large second card

[remote drift]

it's a 1080ti or i believe 980 ti

[pure garnet]

square peg in round hole here

[merry stirrup]

you were going to spend 2200$ just now, why is spending considerably less of that on a small secondary gpu for display driving an issue

we're NOT telling you to buy another 5070Ti

[remote drift]

ye its a 980 ti

listen man i need all my monitors to be 165hz minimum ok?

[cosmic gazelle]

floppa i’m actually going to hire a fiverr witch to curse the engineers that designed am3+

the cpu nb multiplier on this board doesn’t fucking do anything regardless of any single setting or bios version

[remote drift]

the 4080 does not have enough heads to support more than 2 4k monitors

[pure garnet]

and why do you need 5 oled monitors

[remote drift]

because that is what looks best

[merry stirrup]

LMFAOO

[pure garnet]

so you don’t actually need the displays then

[merry stirrup]

when do we blame the chip

[remote drift]

its not a necessity

[pure garnet]

after the next board

[remote drift]

it's a QoL improvement

[merry stirrup]

true

[remote drift]

and yeah its important to me

having that much headroom on 6 4k displays 32 inch is good

[pure garnet]

i feel like you should do a little more research before wasting like 10k canadian on some monitors you don’t need

[remote drift]

maybe OLED other than the main monitor is a little bit abused

but yeah i can get some cheaper IPS 165hz ones

will save me 4-5 k

i think u want to ask why i dont get an ultrawide and be done with it

[merry stirrup]

i think you want us to ask that

[remote drift]

but that aint gonna work

[merry stirrup]

okay

[remote drift]

it has to be 6 perfectly aligned screens u feel me?

[merry stirrup]

sure

[cosmic gazelle]

we don’t because it does 240bclk just fine

[pure garnet]

larp larp larp sahur

[remote drift]

anyways

have a great day

[merry stirrup]

bros sys config after all this:

[remote drift]

did my best man

[merry stirrup]

in a geniune way theres no way ill see any better cable management than at work

[remote drift]

?

[pure garnet]

highlighting the ssds is funny as hell 😭

[remote drift]

nah thats not what im highlighting, the 34 TB yes

[pure garnet]

2 ironwolfs? the socks are off

[merry stirrup]

OTW

where can i find a black and gold 12v hpwr cable

[cosmic gazelle]

lightning 5090 box prob

[merry stirrup]

nope

[cosmic gazelle]

go spend 10 racks

[merry stirrup]

i could just ask if theres one in the lightning box at work

[smoky orbit]

Cable mod

[merry stirrup]

man

[remote drift]

yeah i did this too with my 2008 pc

[smoky orbit]

What? It’s not false

[remote drift]

u cant come with that 2 cents pc and tell me thats a good cable management

[pure garnet]

brother you have a 2 generation old i7 who we we calling 2 cents pc

[remote drift]

2023

why would i need to upgrade?

[cosmic gazelle]

upgrade to my fx 6300 for two cents

[pure garnet]

egoing on old midrange hardware just isn’t the play

[merry stirrup]

thats a 5080 and 9800x3d computer

its better than yours LOL

[remote drift]

doesnt look as good tho

[merry stirrup]

i see your computer every day at my job is what i was saying

[remote drift]

good, u can be proud of urself

[pure garnet]

i’ll have a fishbowl with white rgb fans

[smoky orbit]

This is bad cable management

[pure garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/sheepdog-sheep-dog-blending-in-gif-25408874

[frank cypress]

tbh fast pc > good looking pc

[remote drift]

its not full white so meh its an ok attempt

[frank cypress]

i like my fractal north but i wish more and more i bought a define r7 or sommething

[pure garnet]

paper towels covering motherboards set records

[merry stirrup]

i dont take pictures of the white ones cause theyre ugly

[smoky orbit]

white pc

Not enough purple

[frank cypress]

ive never been fond of white pcs in general ngl

i like the sleek black, professional kinda look

[merry stirrup]

its hard to have a white pc look good in a real setup

[remote drift]

ngl white diffuses light so it looks so much nicer in dark

[frank cypress]

green mobo and all

[merry stirrup]

if you dont have everything else white it usually just looks out of place

[remote drift]

ur telling me this doesnt look good?

[cosmic gazelle]

you could start smoking and have a yellow pc instead

[frank cypress]

and even if you do, it feels really... unnatural?

[merry stirrup]

it looks like computers i see every day at work

[pure garnet]

it’s a dime a dozen tiktok build

[frank cypress]

yes

[smoky orbit]

No, it reflects it

[merry stirrup]

it looks like it would turn on and play game

[remote drift]

ty

[cosmic gazelle]

lowkey gpu doesn’t fit the color scheme

[frank cypress]

it's a taste thing

[pure garnet]

budget cuts

[remote drift]

yeah well

[cosmic gazelle]

i don’t like skunk builds you gotta fully commit

[merry stirrup]

i went for a nicer professional look although i need a new gpu cable

[frank cypress]

wait is that a north?

[merry stirrup]

yes sir

[remote drift]

i had the choice between a 4090 and sacrificing all RGB , or a 4080 (intruder) in a full whiteout build

[pure garnet]

nice eps cables unc

[frank cypress]

north xl?

looks like it's longer than mine

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[cosmic gazelle]

don’t you have a 5090? tf is that skinny card

[frank cypress]

ahhhh that makes sense

[merry stirrup]

i have a 5070Ti

[smoky orbit]

Whoopsies

[frank cypress]

the north slaps

[cosmic gazelle]

oh gotcha

[merry stirrup]

i play discord what do i need a 5090 fo fr

my bios renders on software

[cosmic gazelle]

i have a 3080 i ain’t calling you broke

[pure garnet]

dude spends more time beefing with karhu than gaming

[merry stirrup]

this is actually real

[cosmic gazelle]

i spend more time beefing with am3 bios shitware than gaming at this point

[merry stirrup]

what does the cpu that will not ever draw more than 300w need 2 eps cables for

[pure garnet]

aura

[frank cypress]

nah 5090 for discord is optimmal

[merry stirrup]

im NOT digging out the second one

[pure garnet]

i had 2 eps for my 7800x3d

[frank cypress]

mr michael is proof

[merry stirrup]

a single 8 pin eps with good cooling can do like 350w if youre lucky+

hell my edge was doing 420w cause the cable was cooled well

[pure garnet]

it’s okay the ocf core tuning is so broken it won’t do 350w anyway

[merry stirrup]

i am locked in

[cosmic gazelle]

brb buying a full set of water cooled cables

[merry stirrup]

read up and swapped to older bios and now im not getitng throttled all crazy

[remote drift]

this gets closer to something i'd like to see in my future build

[merry stirrup]

looks pretty good yeah

[remote drift]

black on white? all day

[merry stirrup]

dont like the lian li products from a software perspective

[remote drift]

ye the lian li L connect 3 is clunky

[merry stirrup]

also the o11 is just too extremely heavy im good

[remote drift]

but hey the fans rpm are good when they need to be good

[pure garnet]

i would pay more to not have rgb or displays on my fans

[merry stirrup]

i have to pick up systems off the floor with 5090+011 and its terrible

[remote drift]

they do be heavy ngl

[frank cypress]

i want one of these fuckers so bad

[merry stirrup]

genuine like 70-80 pound computer fully loaded

[frank cypress]

but they're unobtanium now

[cosmic gazelle]

my lian li fans get picked up by openrgb just fine

[smoky orbit]

Yoooooooo perfect server case

[pure garnet]

pc with wheels might be meta

[merry stirrup]

i cant ship a person a computer with orgb instead of wgats supposed to be there

[pure garnet]

i use windows dynamic lighting and refuse to use anything else

[frank cypress]

9 chromax a12x25 on top is pure flex

god im so jealous of this person

[pure garnet]

well im forced to use the gskill software but that doesn’t use any resources

[frank cypress]

holy fuck there's another 9 on the side

[pure garnet]

since it just polls the color once at boot

[merry stirrup]

my table is kinda ugly

[frank cypress]

wtf, that's like, $900 cad worth of fans

[pure garnet]

2 moras in that would go hard as hell

[pure garnet]

dude is that a desk you robbed a high school for

[smoky orbit]

Damn, perfect home server case for low noise (just got as run those fans at a low speed)

[pure garnet]

i had that same wood pattern in math class 😭

[merry stirrup]

i found it in a bando no lie

[smoky orbit]

[frank cypress]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thermaltake/comments/1d0h2qj/core_w200_build_pics/#lightbox

[merry stirrup]

its got like a hidden cabinet section

its fire

[frank cypress]

bro spent so much on fans he probably could've bought a 7970x 💀

[merry stirrup]

LOL

i see that a lot at work it makes me feel bad for the customer

[frank cypress]

higkey respect though

[pure garnet]

i was gonna get a 9950x3d but the apex impulse purchase spoke to me

[frank cypress]

wait you bought an apex?

[merry stirrup]

so whats the compromise then?

[pure garnet]

yeah

[frank cypress]

z890?

[merry stirrup]

x870e

[pure garnet]

x870e

[frank cypress]

ohhhh

[pure garnet]

the useful one

[merry stirrup]

jynx FUCK you

[turbid locust]

@topaz veldt Kentucky-maxxing or whatever the kids say

[merry stirrup]

hory shit

[pure garnet]

all the intel guys piled into asrock this gen

well aside from salty and his tachyons

[merry stirrup]

(the apex is still the more competitive board)

[remote drift]

Aura maxxin indeed

[topaz veldt]

No cap?

[merry stirrup]

salty has an ocf with a different pcb layout he uses that 😭

[remote drift]

mowing the lawn so early too

[pure garnet]

after an exorcism

[smoky orbit]

[merry stirrup]

thats better than the ocf unable to do per core voltage

[pure garnet]

i’ve seen more pics of him with a gigabyte board than the ocf

[remote drift]

this a real case? wait its bigger than a full tower right? ppl use this to build their rigs in ? NO SHOT

[merry stirrup]

i think he does work with gigabyte

[frank cypress]

super tower

[merry stirrup]

like they sponsor him

[frank cypress]

they don't make it anymore

[remote drift]

how the temps are with so many fans?

[pure garnet]

i just know he doesn’t want to touch a z890 apex at all

[frank cypress]

idk not my build

[merry stirrup]

interesting

OCF has been ok on the right bioses

but the fact i need to cherry pick forum modified bioses for it is L

[pure garnet]

between my chip being mid and the bios being empty i just didn’t want to deal with it anymore

[frank cypress]

there's an option to add a lil pedestal to the bottom of the case to make it even bigger

[merry stirrup]

fair

your ocf will do something someday, i probably wont turn it on for a while

[smoky orbit]

I which these types of cases were more common/popular