#tech-chat-2

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cosmic gazelle
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you should just try the same process with secure boot disabled

civic reef
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Which is why I have this ISO of IoT LTSC

cosmic gazelle
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delete any keys that are tied to secure boot in the bios

smoky orbit
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Lets you skip privacy questions and lets you make a local account

cosmic gazelle
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does your screen look like this

smoky orbit
# civic reef What?

(Just disable secure boot and reset it in the bios, their should be an option to reset it or something named like that)

cosmic gazelle
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if that is what your screen looks like then disable secure boot and then click "clear all secure boot keys" and you should be fine

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then go back and reenable it tomorrow after you've slept 😂

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sorry if i got rude in there i just got REALLY confused because were talking about multiple issues at the same time

civic reef
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Did that
Do I go ahead with the IoT LTSC install now from the USB

smoky orbit
civic reef
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Yippee it worked

cosmic gazelle
civic reef
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Should I do file checksum

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To atleast see if everything matches up properly

cosmic gazelle
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for the iso?

edgy laurel
civic reef
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Wait no
I don't remember the exact first line

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Would be useless

cosmic gazelle
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you can do checksum on the iso if you really want to but it's the same link everyone else uses

civic reef
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Booting in normal mode

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Back to Lenovo splashscreen

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Aaaaand there's the Vista glass

cosmic gazelle
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huh

civic reef
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I agree that all my apps and bullshit will be deleted, yes Windows

civic reef
smoky orbit
cosmic gazelle
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select the middle one that doesn't say subscription

civic reef
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Okay so
Enterprise LTSC or Enterprise N LTSC

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Neither say subscription

cosmic gazelle
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did you get w10 or w11 ltsc

civic reef
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11

cosmic gazelle
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can you send a pic of what you see

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i usually don't get those options

civic reef
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Oh guess what
Touch works on the Windows install screen

cosmic gazelle
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that's super weird, completely different options than i get with the same iso

civic reef
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Interesting

cosmic gazelle
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use the top one, N isn't worth using

civic reef
cosmic gazelle
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wonder if it has something to do with the location

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n removes media codecs or something

civic reef
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Maybe

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Oh
Meh

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Licence terms and whatnot blablabla

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Go set your hair on fire Bill Doors

cosmic gazelle
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i know you aren't dumb but make sure your entire boot drive says unallocated space

smoky orbit
cosmic gazelle
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like delete all the partitions on the drive you plan on booting from

cosmic gazelle
smoky orbit
civic reef
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Also install location is between Disk 0 Part(ition) 1, 128mb
D0 Unallocated, 1007 KB
D0 Part 2, 200MB
D0 Part 3, 237.4GB
D0 Part 4, 728MB
D0 Unallocated, 344 KB
Ventoy & VTOYEFI, 232.9 GB & 32MB

fervent chasm
civic reef
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There's options to delete partitions on this screen

fervent chasm
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You should get the one through massgrave

civic reef
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But I can't remember for the life of me what to do

fervent chasm
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It’s from Microsoft servers you download it

cosmic gazelle
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that's what she hhas it just has different options for some reason

civic reef
fervent chasm
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You’ll have Enterprise and IoT Enterprise

fervent chasm
civic reef
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I only remember for Mint

fervent chasm
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And a photo of what you clicked

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I think you maybe missclicked

cosmic gazelle
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whatever the drive is that isn't the one youre booting off of right now, just delete all of those and then click install

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unless daniel determines you downloaded chinese spyware

fervent chasm
cosmic gazelle
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it's a laptop so presumably

fervent chasm
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DM me it

cosmic gazelle
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get boated idiot

civic reef
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Oops, massgrave got sent to the mass grave

cosmic gazelle
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daniel i'm convinced it must just be her location or something, i don't really get it either

fervent chasm
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If you don’t care what’s on the OS drive now, delete every single one that’s D0

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Because if you don’t you’ll have old partitions left

cosmic gazelle
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yes that

civic reef
fervent chasm
# civic reef

Ok so you don’t care what’s on the drive right?

civic reef
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Not really

cosmic gazelle
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you want the entire thing to say disk 0 unallocated space

civic reef
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It's just VLC and some other stuff for the time being

fervent chasm
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Then just go through each D0 and delete

cosmic gazelle
fervent chasm
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You’ll lose all the data btw so that’s why I’m asking

civic reef
cosmic gazelle
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you can't delete that one but yes

civic reef
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I've installed Mint thrice

fervent chasm
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Then yah just delete all d0 partitions until it shows just one d0 unallocated

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Should match the size of the drive

smoky orbit
young void
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Learning new things is tough sometimes but I think I have a model generating

fervent chasm
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Yah @cosmic gazelle it’s because they chose the English UK download link

cosmic gazelle
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still probably fine

civic reef
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Okay it's all Unallocated

fervent chasm
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Yah but you lose the IoT one, what’s this being installed for, to use less of the resources?

civic reef
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Yeah and to fix Windows bullshit

cosmic gazelle
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just to clean the install because it was the one that came preinstalled on the laptop

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ltsc and iot ltsc aren't terribly different anyways

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not for this class of hardware at least

civic reef
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Anyway, chose D0 Unallocated, now it has full disk size

cosmic gazelle
civic reef
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Oh noooo I can't use my computer whilst w11 is installing

cosmic gazelle
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when you get to the account screen you can't use a personal account and need to click the option that allows you to make a local account btw

civic reef
civic reef
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So I need to make a NEW account?

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Yeah I should've went with Rufus

cosmic gazelle
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enterprise assumes you're logging in with an account managed by your company or school

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you can login later

civic reef
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Anyway really what's the difference between IoT & IoT LTSC

fervent chasm
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long term servicing channel

cosmic gazelle
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does iot non ltsc even exist

fervent chasm
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It gets security updates for much longer

civic reef
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Oh oops

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I meant LTSC & IoT LTSC

cosmic gazelle
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iot is more stripped

civic reef
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Sorry I am starting to get dumber

cosmic gazelle
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but not by a lot in my experience

civic reef
cosmic gazelle
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i don't know

smoky orbit
cosmic gazelle
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haven't used it

civic reef
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Okay we're back to the Lenowo splashscreen

cosmic gazelle
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yeah it's gonna be on another screen for a while

civic reef
cosmic gazelle
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i'd just go to bed and finish it in the morning tbh it's not worth it

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it'll take a while to install updates anyways

fervent chasm
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It doesn’t even have Microsoft store installed

fervent chasm
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On the IoT Enterprise

cosmic gazelle
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yeah i had to install it on a buddy's pc earlier today

cosmic gazelle
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because you need ms store to install minecraft launcher

civic reef
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I shall go zzzzz now

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Goodnight, thank you all for guiding me through this

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Oh wait KINDA looks like it's already done lmao??

fervent chasm
civic reef
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Yeah I just got the setup options

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Yeah Windows take your time, keep checking for updates

smoky orbit
cosmic gazelle
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i just downloaded an installer

civic reef
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Mhm you're totally getting things ready for me Mr. Bill Doors

cosmic gazelle
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when you get to the screen where it says downloading you will want to go to bed lol

civic reef
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Now it's just saying things like "sit back and relax while the magic happens"

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Oh my HDD just beeped and started spinning

cosmic gazelle
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it'll get to a screen where it says downloading

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that will probably take several hours on your internet

civic reef
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Bweh
Yeah I am off to bed for realsies

smoky orbit
civic reef
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Night!!!

civic reef
smoky orbit
civic reef
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@cosmic gazelle Goodnight!!!!
@fervent chasm You too :3

civic reef
smoky orbit
civic reef
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Oh uhm
Does anything happen if WiFi shuts off

Just went back to the laptop after WiFi shut-off, it's now on a black "Welcome" screen with a loading circle

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Oh come on
Back to setup, it demands WiFi

smoky orbit
civic reef
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Oh wait it's saying to setup for school / work

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Isn't that supposedly just for IoT LTSC

smoky orbit
fervent chasm
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No, that’s for enterprise

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IoT is for low power devices

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Enterprise is for companies and organizations

smoky orbit
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Cause I think I know where you are in the setup but I’m not 100% sure

young void
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We got our first at home trellis model generating fingers crossed

fervent chasm
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You don’t have to do the setup for school/work

civic reef
smoky orbit
smoky orbit
civic reef
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Tried to use my email, didn't let me

smoky orbit
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Then send another pic please

civic reef
smoky orbit
civic reef
civic reef
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Also gosh I am so stupid
I have a whole other borrowed laptop I could've used Rufus on

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Is it too late to cancel the Windows install and move it to Rufus on the other laptop

smoky orbit
civic reef
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Then go back to mine and skip local

civic reef
smoky orbit
civic reef
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Only on the USB

smoky orbit
civic reef
smoky orbit
civic reef
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Okay so yeah, force shutting off and leaving everything to tomorrow

smoky orbit
fervent chasm
# civic reef

If you’re doing that, just download the regular ISO @civic reef

civic reef
fervent chasm
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Let it download while you sleep

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You can then get the even less bloated IoT Enterprise

smoky orbit
civic reef
smoky orbit
fervent chasm
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You can do local accounts on setup

civic reef
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And when it's now a Rufus USB, ISO is copied back over

smoky orbit
pure garnet
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just hit domain join instead which does a local account?

civic reef
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I'll just install IoT LTSC ig

civic reef
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Might aswell

pure garnet
smoky orbit
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Never knew that

civic reef
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Okay yeah fuck IoT lmao

smoky orbit
pure garnet
smoky orbit
frank zealot
smoky orbit
civic reef
smoky orbit
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Truly wasn’t supposed to make a lot of sense

frank zealot
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use Rufus to make a Windows USB that automatically creates a local account during install, and skips most of the bullshit automatically

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rufus = THE BEST

civic reef
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I am gonna lay down for a minute whilst it does its thing

frank zealot
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Rufus can legitimately skip 80%+ of the windows setup procedure, along with creating a local user you specify

smoky orbit
frank zealot
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does she have the windows ISO already?

fervent chasm
frank zealot
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if you have the ISO, rufus will use that, and the app is just a few mb

fervent chasm
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but i know what you mean, its like 4 check boxes

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you can set it to skip privacy questions, make a local account with the same localization settings, bypass the ram limit and whatnot

frank zealot
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the boxes pop up automatically while making the usb, if you choose to ignore them, it's because you chose to

fervent chasm
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i still thinks he should download the IoT Ent ISO overnight but too late now

smoky orbit
frank zealot
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rufus is small

smoky orbit
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And it would take around an hour to download

fervent chasm
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yah its a few MB

arctic bronze
fervent chasm
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its literally 1.9 MB

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thats less than 2 seconds at 1.5MB/s lol

smoky orbit
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She said she gets max 1.5mb/s but she usually gets a few kb/s in general

fervent chasm
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yah with download manager i think she said

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so just do that idk what the issue is clicking 2 more extra buttons to use download manager

frank cypress
frank zealot
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at 500kb/s, it would take... less than 2 minutes

smoky orbit
frank zealot
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rufus is crazy powerful for how tiny the app is

smoky orbit
civic reef
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Hi Windows

smoky orbit
smoky orbit
civic reef
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Anyway I got a "I don't have WiFi" option

frank cypress
civic reef
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Shouldn't that be, well, not an option

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I chose it anyway, should speed things up

smoky orbit
frank cypress
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oh

smoky orbit
civic reef
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So like

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I skipped all of local account setup

smoky orbit
civic reef
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Just asked for stuff like advertising ID
the stuff you click yes and no for

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Now I am on Desktop

smoky orbit
civic reef
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At home, with WAN, I can get upto 50-70 Megabit down on good days

fervent chasm
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your english is good, is it normal to speak that well in lebanon?

civic reef
smoky orbit
civic reef
fervent chasm
civic reef
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And those who do take English are usually fairly "subpar" at best; they only speak it well enough to understand English UI and such

fervent chasm
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idk if thats a rude question to ask

wraith steeple
civic reef
civic reef
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They can uphold conversations but it's not great

civic reef
fervent chasm
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I was wondering because i forgot if it was english or french, I know the british had the palestine mandate right under it thats why i wasnt sure if they also had lebanon

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I was assuming thats why the english was so good

civic reef
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I've seen more people in the 30-40 range speak fluent French than 20-30 speak fluent English

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Eitherway, I've gotta go zzzzzzzz

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The Bill Doors OS has been enough of a pain as is

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Goodnight

wraith steeple
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I haven't been in the old country in years

cosmic gazelle
# civic reef

bro i said choose domain join you just make a local account

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😭

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rufus won't change the behavior

fervent chasm
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yah but it skips all of that

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i just prefer making my own autounattend.xml's

cosmic gazelle
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you still have to click the domain join option afaik

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maybe i've never selected it i could be wrong

fervent chasm
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the account already exists and those steps are skipped

cosmic gazelle
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i guess but making a local account the domain join way takes like 30 seconds

merry stirrup
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32 minute pc build

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7m faster than yesterday

fervent chasm
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thats what it reminds me of

merry stirrup
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i have no idea but i am speed building puters

fervent chasm
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this guy lol

merry stirrup
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46 -> 39m - 32m

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good improvement so far on builds i’m actually try harding on

pure garnet
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sub 20 when

merry stirrup
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probably impossible for this puter and i’m not really cherry picking

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this is “standard” and what i’m speed building

fervent chasm
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why does the aio say ai on it

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ai aio

shell void
merry stirrup
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while that’s a generic photo yeah the 32m build was with a 5080 from pny

fervent chasm
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i love my pny 4090

merry stirrup
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i have proof of the 32m pictured but i’m gonna wait until i’m home to send it incase it has pii lol

wraith steeple
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Okay drivers for the Yamaha Audician 32 Plus and ATi All-In-Wonder Rage II+DVD 4MB are both installed on the AMD K5 PR166 build, and wow...... Getting those to work was a real pain, but just reliefed they're now working

cosmic gazelle
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floppa my buddy had a computer given to him from his friend and it wouldn’t boot expo because the sticks were in 1 and 3

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me being a pc nerd actually did something for once

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kinda surprising that c die is so ass that 3600 doesn’t boot based on the slots

pure garnet
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a lot of am4 boards have really weak slots 1 and 3

cosmic gazelle
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oh really

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i wouldn't have known that deep

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so you just get screwed if you get 4 sticks and can't boot expo

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sounds like a well developed platform ℱ

pure garnet
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xmp is still overclocking

cosmic gazelle
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lmao @pure garnet i just got the 990fx and the usb 3 header is shredded

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i don't really care it's just funny

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might get a partial refund because they for sure didn't show it

merry stirrup
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especially on am4. amd still wasn’t super trusted by board vendors until at least b550 then they kinda tried

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amd boards are still typically worse than the intel counterparts idk why

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like even the cheap asrock intel boards have 5 fan headers while most amd boards have 3

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5 (chassis) fan headers*

merry stirrup
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does it work

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do you seriously not have a better cooler 😭

cosmic gazelle
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it’s coming

merry stirrup
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frozn a620 is 26.99 and it kinda almost works with am3(+) so it’s good enough

cosmic gazelle
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from alibaba in like a week

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it was $13 shipped

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because i thought buying a china cooler would be really funny

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no other reason

merry stirrup
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not bad

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apparently north bridge cooling matters on FX

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so, put a fan on the NB

young void
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Figured out how to trellis bless

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First model ✔

merry stirrup
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or like seriously use that cooler as the north bridge cooler when the new one gets here LOL

cosmic gazelle
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but yeah i’ll point a fan at it eventually here

merry stirrup
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yeah

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idk apparently it matters and it makes sense

smoky orbit
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Goody nighty

merry stirrup
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my results are technically not just air cooling

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so it makes sense everything was clocking good

cosmic gazelle
merry stirrup
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god knows

cosmic gazelle
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i wanna try

merry stirrup
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kaboom

cosmic gazelle
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kaboom

merry stirrup
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maybe i’ll buy another 6300 to bin and be disappointed with

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does your board support memory ratios above 2400

cosmic gazelle
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well sheeeeit

merry stirrup
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idk if that’s like a universal limit

cosmic gazelle
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free performance mane, also i don’t even know if it does 2400

merry stirrup
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i know just see if you can set above 2400 don’t try

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i can do 2666 on my best sticks so it kinda matters

cosmic gazelle
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i gotta update bios but i also gotta reinstall windows i think because there’s no windows boot manager here

merry stirrup
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wait

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oh nvm you already said it just try updating bios first

cosmic gazelle
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holy shit hardware reset button is so goated

merry stirrup
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i had to do the same on my FX board for nvme support

cosmic gazelle
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only board i have that has it

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
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actually every board of mine 😭

cosmic gazelle
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okay yeah this windows install isn’t getting picked up stand by

pure garnet
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floppa when ks

merry stirrup
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monday hopefully :D

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was just thinking that i lowkey forgot im sorru

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taking it off the wall

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my only board without physical buttons except it’s dead

pure garnet
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my packing peanut

merry stirrup
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hurray

pure garnet
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đŸ˜»

cosmic gazelle
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this board lowkey takes a long time to post

merry stirrup
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next to it:

pure garnet
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my x670e-e doesn't have a cmos reset button :(

cosmic gazelle
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shit

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i think the usb 3 ports arent recognized in bios this is absolutely tragic

merry stirrup
pure garnet
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lowkey tempted to be dumb and buy an apex but at the same time

cosmic gazelle
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this mf has a firewire port but no hard wired usb 3

pure garnet
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why should i touch the daily system again

merry stirrup
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not worth it until amd releases a better io die

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which is fucking never so

cosmic gazelle
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can you even use firewire for anything these days

merry stirrup
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ipods

cosmic gazelle
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lowkey a relief this board works because this thing sells for like 200 shekels on ebay

merry stirrup
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hella shekels

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did you check the hwbot subs for it

cosmic gazelle
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i didn't know there's board subs

merry stirrup
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what is it

merry stirrup
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280 subs probably decent then

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this is how you tell if boards are competitive if you want to find good old boards

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whatever has hella subs = good board

pure garnet
cosmic gazelle
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somebody did 8370mhz on it

merry stirrup
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like crosshair formula -z is the best 990fx board probably

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it has 8.3K subs

cosmic gazelle
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that and the uh

merry stirrup
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my bad 8.9k

cosmic gazelle
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that one with the name that also is a z97

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sabertooth

pure garnet
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wait this guy benched 8200 on this board

merry stirrup
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yea sabertooth has 3k subs, i had one

cosmic gazelle
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why when i press 990fx on the page the sub for this board doesn't show up in the list

merry stirrup
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its just a reskinned tomahawk

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which does 8400

pure garnet
merry stirrup
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ohh

cosmic gazelle
pure garnet
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guessing it's bench stable if you play with terms

merry stirrup
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im regarded

cosmic gazelle
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i'm pretty sure this is better than any 970 board out there even if it's not the best 990

merry stirrup
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can still get chip diffed

cosmic gazelle
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well i will if the problem this entire time was the chip and not the board

merry stirrup
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fire

cosmic gazelle
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replaced the board because the chips are 10 bucks if i want another

merry stirrup
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erm like 16 i think

cosmic gazelle
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i saw one the other day for like 12 on ebay, they pop up from time to time

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ali has em for 10 maybe idk either way

merry stirrup
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ali could be the method

cosmic gazelle
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i'll probably just get an 8300 if i have to buy another chip for this stupid platform

merry stirrup
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i wonder if theres a way to tell what one is good based off batch on fx

cosmic gazelle
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people have hit the same freq with an 8320 as an 8350 so it appears binning is a complete roll of the dice

fervent chasm
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One of the more reasonably priced I’ve found

cosmic gazelle
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wonder how much an athlon x6 is

merry stirrup
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not even worth it its so slow and not fun

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mine wasnt even overclockable although an x4

pure garnet
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i burnt the shit out of my finger with an x2

cosmic gazelle
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p2 x6 mb not athlon

merry stirrup
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yeah thats what it is

cosmic gazelle
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yeesh

merry stirrup
cosmic gazelle
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cheapest is a 1055t for 27 bucks shipped that is no bueno

pure garnet
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is 1.418v normal for skylake

cosmic gazelle
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thats like 8320 money

merry stirrup
pure garnet
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or is my grandma's 6700k trying to kaboom

merry stirrup
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thats all you should do

pure garnet
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yeah it's boosting to 4.0 to open firefox with that voltage

merry stirrup
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augh

cosmic gazelle
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rest in peace your granny her pc got hit by a bazooka

merry stirrup
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might be time to get grammy off the 6700K

pure garnet
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i know it's degraded but cat_dark

merry stirrup
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but one less 67 in life

pure garnet
merry stirrup
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another 6700K

cosmic gazelle
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how would a 6700k not be good enough for scrolling through ai generated cat videos brah

pure garnet
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if it dies im just throwing my 7500t actually

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since that's just sitting in a bag on my desk

merry stirrup
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real

cosmic gazelle
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you should put her on an opteron

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what's the best opteron they ever made

merry stirrup
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320w for 6 score in r23

cosmic gazelle
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Opteron 6386 SE

merry stirrup
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FX temp management was so garbage man

cosmic gazelle
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honestly much better than i expected

merry stirrup
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brother there is 16 cores on that cpu

cosmic gazelle
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yeah i know but that's way better multi threaded than i was expecting for a brand that is known for being horrible

merry stirrup
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it would get gapped by the 8100 with 103bclk and a mem oc 😭

cosmic gazelle
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yeah but it's cooler

merry stirrup
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there is NOTHING cool about opteron

cosmic gazelle
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it's cool like how a pontiac aztek is cool

merry stirrup
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its slow in the worst ways bro

cosmic gazelle
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it's so un-cool it becomes cool

merry stirrup
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its only cool because waltuh

cosmic gazelle
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did you see i got a titan black coming in

merry stirrup
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700 series right?

cosmic gazelle
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power virus gpu lets go

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it's just a slightly oc'ed 780 ti but it's pretty cool

merry stirrup
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be careful if you decide to bios mod it

cosmic gazelle
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i was probably going to, why

merry stirrup
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kaboom

cosmic gazelle
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i mean

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i paid 37 for it so not a huge loss but yeah i'll be careful

merry stirrup
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it has a very mediocre vrm layout and cooling setup

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i mean yeah do it anyways but be careful

cosmic gazelle
#

i kinda dont wanna repaste it because 7-10 series founders cards are a pain in the ass to take apart

merry stirrup
#

7 series is fine lowk

#

10 with the backplates and shit is where it got bad

cosmic gazelle
#

i watched a disassembly video and it looks pretty annoying

merry stirrup
#

its just a lotta screws

cosmic gazelle
#

but they sell for like 80 somehow so maybe i can make a little back if i use it and sell it

merry stirrup
#

true

#

get points and g et rid of it

cosmic gazelle
#

i dont know who tf is buying a kepler card for 80 bucks but who am i to judge, i bought an fx 6300

merry stirrup
#

real

cosmic gazelle
#

is it just because it's a collectors item like genuinely

#

its so much worse than like, a 980 which sells for less

merry stirrup
#

almost to lowball level

#

kinda good

cosmic gazelle
#

me on my way to waterblock my gpu and then sell it for 2 peanuts and a hot wheels

#

selecting afghanistan in my windows install so allah blesses my overclock

merry stirrup
#

a specific price

young void
#

If you guys ever need a mesh model let me know xD bless

merry stirrup
#

one ps2 flopper

#

i need ddr5 memory

cosmic gazelle
#

cpu fan is set to 100% and it's making me feel like i mounted it wrong but that's like not possible on a clip cooler lmao

merry stirrup
#

aUUGHGHH

#

75$ 32GB of bdie

#

but its in FUCKING PORTLAND

turbid locust
merry stirrup
turbid locust
#

now that I found out my H16M isn’t shit I’m kinda chillin

#

I still wouldn’t mind another H24M kit but

cosmic gazelle
#

okay yeah this vrm heatsink is roasting hot and the things just installing windows

#

fan time!

merry stirrup
#

see i told you

merry stirrup
cosmic gazelle
#

this board only has 3 pin fan headers which is quite perplexing'

fervent chasm
#

I’m gonna track you

#

Every day

merry stirrup
#

its over

fervent chasm
#

It’s joever

merry stirrup
#

computer build today hurt my hands badly

fervent chasm
merry stirrup
#

no

#

my last build of the day is always a speed build

#

company record is something like 28 minutes so i am close

young void
#

Sooon

brisk jolt
#

i believe in you flops

#

you will set a 27:59

hallow canopy
#

ye no the lcoation didn't update since i lost the phone
i guess i've screwed myself over if i do somehow get th ephone back

turbid locust
#

I PUT ON FOR MY CITY

#

I wish apple music desktop app wasnt so ass

hoary hatch
#

Gentlemen

#

The steam controller got a tracking number

turbid locust
#

I do not understand the hype

cosmic gazelle
#

@merry stirrup idk how to describe it but everything already feels more stable on the 990fx

#

haven’t tested anything yet

hoary hatch
turbid locust
#

Used to

hoary hatch
#

Do I give this guy ddr3 for like $5

turbid locust
#

what an opener

cosmic gazelle
#

you think he has a 4790k and 1080 ti

#

it’s all you need

teal orbit
#

How does it get any cheaper than $15 đŸ„€

shell void
turbid locust
#

@merry stirrup what’s a consistent game to test ram oc scaling

shell void
#

oh man if only SSDs were still cheap

hoary hatch
#

Nobody else has even asked about the ddr3 and I have no ddr3 boards

cosmic gazelle
pure garnet
turbid locust
#

I mean, yeah.

#

I have never seen a game die so fast

pure garnet
#

i just wanna know who keeps opening the game to see an infinite loading screen

turbid locust
#

I wanna do 4400/8000/8200 testing but the only chip that does those consistently is my 9850x3d daily and ram oc in a case is ugh

hoary hatch
nova patrol
merry stirrup
#

battlefield? rust tarkov maybe

turbid locust
merry stirrup
#

minecraft seems feasible

turbid locust
#

that reminds me I need to actually play mc

merry stirrup
#

java is very memory bound

cosmic gazelle
#

minecraft would take a quite long sample size imo

low sorrel
#

@steel stream @turbid locust settle this for me is this a u turn or a left turn

#

my parents told me to turn left and i went to the street on the left

#

and now they are roasting me for never listening to their instructions

turbid locust
spiral quarry
spiral quarry
#

ah left turn then

low sorrel
#

u turns are always allowed tho unless told not to hear in canada

spiral quarry
#

Unless there is not much traffic and uhh cop I do some illegal u-turns.

cosmic gazelle
spiral quarry
low sorrel
low sorrel
spiral quarry
#

Huh the traffic light one that I never heard of.

cosmic gazelle
#

@merry stirrup people apparently recommend staying on an older bios version on this board, and the one i’m using doesn’t have anything over 1866

low sorrel
#

I've just learned that there's one door handle that's installed backwards in my house and it pisses me off for no reason at all

spiral quarry
teal orbit
#

sell me that ddr3 kit so i can double the ram on my router

low sorrel
low sorrel
#

because they are going to need bigger fuel tanks

teal orbit
#

router with 16 GiB ram

low sorrel
#

and that needs a new chassis

merry stirrup
low sorrel
#

and that means any data the ea devs get from f1 26 is useless

teal orbit
low sorrel
merry stirrup
#

problem?

teal orbit
#

why

cosmic gazelle
# merry stirrup MAN

i have to fucking install windows again because the bios update decide to nuke windows boot manager

#

even on a good board bulldozer manages to piss me off

merry stirrup
spiral quarry
teal orbit
merry stirrup
#

im overclocking the computer on another desk 5 ft away without a monitor

low sorrel
cosmic gazelle
#

honestly i see the vision, i have to unplug my second monitor from my gpu when i'm overclocking so it doesn't keep switching

#

cuz i have my main pc and my pc i'm currently tweaking on the same desk

merry stirrup
teal orbit
#

20 foot hdmi cable

merry stirrup
#

or this

teal orbit
#

no

merry stirrup
#

which is much better in every way

teal orbit
#

what device are you using for the remote management

merry stirrup
#

a nano kvm

cosmic gazelle
#

floppa why does this board decide that unless you installed windows on it in its current bios version that windows boot manager doesn't exist

#

i've never encountered a single other board that does this

merry stirrup
#

awful fx era bios

cosmic gazelle
#

i did chatgpt instructions to remake boot files and it decided to instead give a boot device inaccessible stop code

#

so i'm just reinstalling, again

merry stirrup
#

stupid evil board

cosmic gazelle
#

thsi shit better do 6ghz in game on the stock cooler

merry stirrup
#

it’s okay kyokos 12900ks is supreme ass

cosmic gazelle
#

what are you hitting on it

merry stirrup
#

not 7000 mem that’s for aure

cosmic gazelle
#

isn't that like poop from a butt

#

i thought 12900ks did 8k

merry stirrup
#

13900ks kinda does same with 14900ks

cosmic gazelle
#

i'm not that mad about the 1866 limitation since that's what tends to perform best on fx (?)

#

but it's so strange that 2133 isn't even an option

merry stirrup
#

yeah wack

#

imma just work my way up from 6000

#

@pure garnet is this avx512??????

pure garnet
#

i don’t think any kses were

#

i had 7000 working though iirc

merry stirrup
#

sadness

#

it also didnt want to boot with my rx 580

pure garnet
#

honestly you may wanna just remount the cpu because i’ve never used a contact frame before

merry stirrup
#

oh god

#

i hate these things

pure garnet
#

i didn’t overtighten it but

merry stirrup
#

imma just fafo for nnow and see what sup

pure garnet
merry stirrup
#

igpu is fine ill reslot the 580 in a while'

#

i GOTTA buy more hynix mem

#

having 3 sticks to play with is the worst

cosmic gazelle
#

i am still pissed about installing windows again but watching the gpu go from 480p to 1080p is still nice

merry stirrup
#

yeesh idk if my tower cooler can do all this

#

may have to get my aio off my other puter

#

but i dont have lga 1700 mounting for it so ill have to steal some from work and hope

turbid locust
#

I think im out of thermal paste fuck

merry stirrup
#

i literally cannot run out

turbid locust
#

nvm giant ass tube of NT-H1 right next to me im blind asf

merry stirrup
#

hurrr

turbid locust
#

I still need to get a slot powered gpu for the bench

merry stirrup
turbid locust
#

time to cpu swap with the mounting hardware of doom and despair

merry stirrup
#

whatcha swappin

turbid locust
#

swapping my 8500G into my Gene

merry stirrup
#

oh

pure garnet
merry stirrup
#

i have infinite at work 😭

pure garnet
#

yeah but i can snack on it at home so

merry stirrup
#

i take some home too smh

turbid locust
#

oh yeah now i remember

merry stirrup
#

idk yeah no cooling is making me turn off the mpower

#

works tho

turbid locust
#

not only is the mounting method for the LF3 absolutely dogshit

#

you can’t swap the cpu without removing the hardware either

pure garnet
#

the nt-h1 under my grandmas ihs 100% pumped out btw

#

70c opening firefox is wild

#

but she doesn’t notice the fans ramping so she doesn’t care

turbid locust
turbid locust
brisk jolt
cosmic gazelle
#

@merry stirrup it was all worth it

#

i just booted 2400 nb and everything runs totally fine

#

that 970 motherboard is just absolutely cooked

burnt socket
#

@brisk jolt have panther lake x7/x9 laptops been released in singapore

#

especially the 388h

merry stirrup
turbid locust
#

The H16M boots 8000 first try, 8200 does not post

#

Zen 4 optimal ahh sticks

merry stirrup
cosmic gazelle
burnt socket
merry stirrup
#

no

#

AMD FX CPUs continued to require external northbridge and southbridge chips. Modern Intel Core processors have the northbridge integrated on the CPU die, where it is known as the uncore or system agent.

#

wikipedia

burnt socket
#

just the regular ultra 7

cosmic gazelle
#

yeah but there’s cpu nb and nb voltages implying they’re different parts of the system

merry stirrup
#

are we assuming the one on the board magically doesn’t matter

brisk jolt
#

im selling this thing off

merry stirrup
#

idk what one is the hyper transport and one what is the north bridge

#

i sssume hyper transport is on die and north bridge not

cosmic gazelle
burnt socket
cosmic gazelle
frank cypress
#

lowkey tempted to sell off half my ram but the more i think about it, it wouldn't be worth it

turbid locust
#

Im gonna sell my DDR4 but thats it

merry stirrup
frank cypress
#

kinda value having both kits cause if one dies well

#

i wouldn't be as fuked

merry stirrup
#

but there is the north bridge and the hyper transport

cosmic gazelle
merry stirrup
cosmic gazelle
#

but the 970 had HT, CPU NB, and NB

merry stirrup
#

but idk what is what

turbid locust
#

I value my five kits of DDR5 more than my life rn

cosmic gazelle
#

Haven’t checked on the msi

frank cypress
#

i mean it's shitty ram but it's fine for me đŸ€·

cosmic gazelle
#

but also ht doesn’t really scale past 2600, cpu nb is what matters for performance

merry stirrup
#

3 sticks of d5 in the collection and i have to cherish them

brisk jolt
#

these royals do 7600cl38 at 1.33v which imo isnt impressive but flops/mac can tell me otherwise

merry stirrup
#

it’s not

brisk jolt
#

yeah

merry stirrup
#

probably average. i think mine are the same

frank cypress
merry stirrup
#

/similar

frank cypress
#

at least for me

cosmic gazelle
#

i’m curious how high i can push the bclk now that i have a board that isn’t possessed by a demon

turbid locust
frank cypress
#

and like, again just in case one kit dies for whatever reason, i'd be a lot less fucked

cosmic gazelle
#

gotta sleep tho

merry stirrup
#

i’m doin 8000 c36 at 1.45 which with typical tcl scaling lines up

#

i haven’t tried lower tcl alone though

brisk jolt
turbid locust
#

that but 1.45v

cosmic gazelle
#

flop i will update u with r20 results in a couple days once i get a decent baseline, cant really do real oc until the cooler shows up tho

brisk jolt
#

oh damn

merry stirrup
#

okie sounds good do 7zip and 1b if you feel up to it

turbid locust
#

shit has 100mv of margin LMAO

brisk jolt
#

@merry stirrup whats a good/decent voltage for h24m 7600c38?

#

id assume 1.3

merry stirrup
#

idk specifics low freq/high timing is beyond me

brisk jolt
#

ah

merry stirrup
#

but probably lower, like 1.27

brisk jolt
#

Whats ur target then?

frank cypress
#

oh yeah floppa do you reckon i could reuse my 13900ks XTU settings on my 13700k :>

brisk jolt
#

for say, 8kc40

frank cypress
#

wait actually?

merry stirrup
#

drop everything by 2 and it’ll probably be fine

frank cypress
#

damn

merry stirrup
#

maybe 1 if you feel frisky on all core

frank cypress
#

nah tbh i just want something nice and efficient

merry stirrup
#

so idk what you ran all core, 54?

frank cypress
#

i was lowkey thinking i might want to even disable all the e cores

turbid locust
merry stirrup
#

lowkey less efficient to do that

frank cypress
#

fr?

turbid locust
#

I scale everything based on 6000c26 1.4v

merry stirrup
#

pcores are power hungry and annoying

turbid locust
frank cypress
#

hmmm

brisk jolt
merry stirrup
frank cypress
#

i guess i could leave a couple e cores for background tasks

turbid locust
turbid locust
frank cypress
#

wait lmao what if i disable half the p cores and half the e cores

#

4p4e for the funnies

merry stirrup
#

keep ht off instead and run typical bios settings for lower power like you have been, cpu ratios will probably need to be messed with

turbid locust
#

lol ive never looked at a Zen 4 APU VID table before

frank cypress
#

alrighty

#

id recokon 4.9 / 3.8 / 3.8 would be fine tho

merry stirrup
#

what vcore?

frank cypress
#

iirc that's what we ended with for the 13900ks

#

i can't remember that

turbid locust
#

floppa do you know ideal tRFC ns for H16M off the top of your head

frank cypress
#

uhhhh but we definitely did undervolt a bit

turbid locust
merry stirrup
#

iirc on intel it goes low and mixed refresh on amd makes it all wack

turbid locust
#

hmmm ok

#

im gonna minimize primaries first ig

#

just gonna set 1.45v and see what it does

#

H16M does lower tRCD than 16A right

merry stirrup
#

maybe? i think its pretty similar

#

maybe better on average but sample dependant

turbid locust
#

ok cl36 errored in 9 seconds lol

merry stirrup
#

so it’s worse than my h16a, checks out

turbid locust
#

worse than both my 16A kits too

merry stirrup
#

was there a baseline 8k test or no

turbid locust
#

wdym

turbid locust
merry stirrup
#

like did you try a higher timing level for 8000 first to see if the frequency is doable on the ram at all

turbid locust
merry stirrup
#

i’m actively trying 8000 c34 1.45v

turbid locust
merry stirrup
#

i run 36-46-46 normally

#

trcd strong

turbid locust
#

im gonnna set 38-48-48

#

set tRCDWR to like 16 ig

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
turbid locust
#

nvm this board doesnt have it exposed

merry stirrup
#

LOL

#

damn you asus

turbid locust
#

tf do we set tRP to I always just match tRCD

merry stirrup
#

i usually do that yeah, h16a does real low, like -4(+) of rcd usually tho minimized

#

h16m does not

turbid locust
#

ic ic

merry stirrup
#

8000 c32 1.45? let’s try that instead

turbid locust
#

valid

#

tRCD 48 errored in 8 secs

#

ok back to 38-52-52 to sanity check

merry stirrup
brisk jolt
#

are there any peeps that know ball about chick-fil-a

merry stirrup
#

polynesian or whatever is NOT good

#

get honey mustard and be happy

brisk jolt
#

ok bet

turbid locust
#

zesty buffalo is the method

merry stirrup
#

tastes like weird cinnamon syrup

turbid locust
#

ok it ran for a minute time for tRCD 46

merry stirrup
#

okay okay

#

if it does 44 it would seem that h16m is better than h16a on rcd

brisk jolt
#

im testing if my cl26 kit runs at 1.4v instead of .45 rn, I also want to test if it can do 6400 and what G2 it can. Prob also gonna test fclk

#

but goddamn the fan is screaming

merry stirrup
#

heat bound on ryzen is pretty hard

turbid locust
brisk jolt
#

ryzen chip so hard to cool mobo’s like “scream louder”

merry stirrup
#

i’m getting my 8k daily mighty dialed in i’ll say that

#

last time
flexing 32 minute puter

frank cypress
#

sheesh

turbid locust
merry stirrup
#

uh

#

conclusion

turbid locust
#

questioning if this kit is actually ok at 8000 lol

merry stirrup
#

sample dependent

merry stirrup
brisk jolt
#

rn trying 6400

turbid locust
#

I might throw my 6K26 kit in for fun and do silly shit

brisk jolt
#

ok yeah 7600x 1.25vsoc 6400/2133 is a no go

turbid locust
#

4400 meta

analog scroll
#

I wanna know what the RAM clock is on my IPC-88

#

given that the CPU hits a max of 8mhz I don't imagine it being that high

#

first I gotta get the GPU sorted

#

florida man is going to test the scrapyard gpu for me and if it works, he's gonna post it to me

floral spear
#

Mandalay bay is currently suffering thru technical issues lmafaooaoaaoao

turbid locust
#

W screenshot

brisk jolt
green marsh
#

jetbrains has a developer survey.... I don't think they are ready for my answer 😄

lapis bobcat
#

If I have a 5080, do I want to avoid using V-Sync in most games? Is V-Sync meant for lower tier GPU’s?? What about DLSS OR DLAA? Trying to figure out if I need to be enabling these or turning them off? I think one time i had option to use FSR and DLSS or DLAA wasn’t available? Don’t quote me on that.

I’m trying to figure out if I should turn those off unless I really need them? Like maybe in Cyberpunk or Elden Ring

green marsh
brave panther
green marsh
brave panther
green marsh
lapis bobcat
green marsh
green marsh
lapis bobcat
#

Can you explain it another way what v-sync does? Sorry it sounds confusing

green marsh
# brave panther why tf

i started on Didaktik Gama (a ZX Spectrum clone), then had a 286 with Windows 3.11 and Turbo Pascal and stuff 😄

lapis bobcat
#

Not the best when it comes to being tech savvy with the verbiage

green marsh
brave panther
green marsh
#

so you never get a tearing (half of the previous picture and half of current picture), because display receives only fully rendered frames to display

brave panther
#

yep, drawback is input latency becouse gpu waits for display

green marsh
green marsh
# maiden prairie Emacs

Emacs is there. I went Turbo Pascal (not there) -> Delphi (not there) -> whatever i used in early '00s (maybe Eclipse ? Dunno, long time ago)...

civic reef
#

I just clicked "I don't have Internet"

#

And it skipped everything

smoky orbit
civic reef
#

Hruuu :3

smoky orbit
civic reef
#

Wbu though?

smoky orbit
civic reef
#

That's good to hear!!!

#

Also goddamn that 3:30 AM sleep got me fucked up 😭

#

Woke up at 12:45 PM

smoky orbit
civic reef
wraith steeple
elfin shuttle
#

Could the SATA header and the cable be the root of the problem BOSD when installing Windows?

arctic bronze
civic reef
young void
brisk jolt
#

@merry stirrup can I confirm with you lower tras is faster

cosmic gazelle
#

on what

#

tras on amd doesn’t do anything

#

on intel it matters afaik

brisk jolt
#

this ram kit is 0.01v better

wise bear
#

augh

cosmic gazelle
#

@merry stirrup i have to install windows in mbr now because it turns out the uefi implementation on this board is just horrendous

#

cmos reset deletes windows boot manager

lunar comet
#

Hmm will it hurt if i add a nylon sleeve to my 12vhpwr cable than getting an extension?

wide sonnet
wide sonnet
lunar comet
glad fossil
#

Anyone using MSI b760m mortar max motherboard? Is this board having short circuit issue commonly?

cosmic gazelle
#

what symptoms are you experiencing

topaz veldt
#

@turbid locust

topaz veldt
keen wigeon
#

It is time to upgrade my nearly useless Arlo cameras to UniFi.

turbid locust
topaz veldt
turbid locust
vocal ember
#

Hi guys do u recommend me to buy the
Samsung T9 2TB Portable External SSD
is it a good option?

nocturne jacinth
vocal ember
nocturne jacinth
smoky orbit
nocturne jacinth
#

For long passive storage

#

Ya

vocal ember
#

my issue is

#

i move from time to time

#

like for traveling

smoky orbit
vocal ember
#

aww

#

even nvme ones?

smoky orbit
nocturne jacinth
#

Physical writes on the disk is more durable even if you bump and brick it while traveling recovering it is much cheaper than SSD too

#

Only magnets gonna total loss

vocal ember
#

i see

#

thanks alot

fringe vigil
merry stirrup
#

on auto it still influences tRC so that could do something

#

like nothing with extra steps

pure garnet
#

apparently my grandmas plasma supports cec

shell void
pure garnet
#

it’s about 32” panel size

#

my grandfather was pretty big into tech so he would probably buy a nice display

steel stream
#

grandpa knows ball

pure garnet
#

he never got to see oled tvs salute

shell void
pure garnet
#

if i didn’t just leave i could find out

topaz veldt
nocturne jacinth
#

40ns DDR4 > DDR5

pure garnet
#

the hell does that mean

#

aida numbers?

steel stream
#

tweaker

devout ridge
pure garnet
steel stream
#

nah I'd rather use this

maiden prairie
#

Like they have "straight" sides instead of becoming thinner at the tod, don't know how to say it

merry stirrup
#

1024x768 but plasma pixels are rectangles so it’s 16:9

turbid locust
#

@topaz veldt did that 8300 tune survive

topaz veldt
turbid locust
#

lol sick

#

Bro could not handle me dailying 8200

pure garnet
#

i need 8400

pastel thicket
#

i can buy Kingston FURY 32 GB DDR5-6000 KF560C36BBE2AK2-32 new in the box for cheap is this any good for to day use yes or no

smoky orbit
#

9000 when? (Maybe ddr6 oc)