tech-chat-2

[civic reef]

That's good to hear!!! X33

I'd be a prime target, seeing as that's all what the enemy can fight reliably

[merry stirrup]

realistically this does not deserve a videocardz article

[steel stream]

it's trying times for us all

[topaz veldt]

Sigh. Of course.

[slim pebble]

For comedy sake? Yes that shit is hilarious

[shell void]

why would i pay for asrock stickers on my silverstone HEDT AIO?

[slim pebble]

“I’ve never soldered before, let me practice on my new $8000-9000 video card.” 🤣

Oops… not as easy as it looks on YouTube

[young void]

Soldering can be tough especially learning when to add more flux or heat

[shell void]

woooo +1

[young void]

And protecting small components/plastics im still a nub

[pure garnet]

he has one good core

that sp124 is fire

[young void]

We take the +1

[shell void]

two of em

[topaz veldt]

annoying - SP118 in SFF build, SP117 in water loop

[shell void]

trying to PBO tune a cpu with varying core quality like this seems like a pain in the ass

i know this is the norm for ryzen, i got spoiled with my 9800X3D where all cores are within +-15mv of eachother

[smoky orbit]

(The gator’s flat is finally repaired :3 (god is it better than the bubu ))

[pallid marsh]

Impossible you can't repair John Deere products

[smoky orbit]

It’s an old one I don’t think the ecu is wise enough to know that it’s extremely low on coolant (it’s extremely low on coolant), gotta buy some more before I can send it properly

And the gas tank’s fuek pump is extremely whiny, gotta change that at some point

[wraith steeple]

WE ARE SO FUCKIN BACK!

[pallid marsh]

Cry for a eternity?

[green marsh]

@topaz veldt https://she-llac.com/claude-limits i am still going to use only local tho 😄

[topaz veldt]

tldr?

[green marsh]

Max 20x is not worth it, Max 5x is the best deal if you can afford it

[topaz veldt]

Oh oh its public API pricing got it

[brave panther]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-over-9000-it's-over-9000-its-gif-6159356195145880706

[green marsh]

i mean compared to API all of them are worth it, but still... Anyway, i managed to get LiteLLM working today. Also as i mentioned before, i am surprised how well one can set up llamacpp to only barely use VRAM and still have great performance even with archaic hardware

[wraith steeple]

[civic reef]

Gator's flat?

[green marsh]

with barely just 6GB VRAM usage (uses a lot of normal RAM tho) got 700t/s PP and 30+t/s TG with Qwen3.6-35B-A3B

[turbid locust]

I need to go back and recheck the vids on my 9850X3D

[topaz veldt]

I just ordered a 96GB kit 🙂

[pure garnet]

i’m pretty sure mine are like that, i’ll let you know later tonight when i get home

[turbid locust]

Apparently new core cycler will figure it out for you so?

[green marsh]

.\llama-server.exe --alias code --ctx-size 0 --fit on --no-mmproj --jinja --flash-attn on --cache-type-k q4_0 --cache-type-v q4_0 --override-tensor ".*ffn_.*_exps\.=CPU" -hf unsloth/Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-GGUF:UD-IQ3_XXS --host 0.0.0.0 (or if you get the turboquant enabled llamacpp, then cache-type to turbo4 or turbo3).

the heavy lifting is in the --override-tensor ".*ffn_.*_exps\.=CPU" command, which offloads not whole layers, but only the parts which can perform fast on through CPU vector instructions too, while rest and the context stays on the GPU.

[turbid locust]

Yeah mine varies pretty hard

core 1 is cracked af

[green marsh]

(--no-mmproj kills the visual functions from the model, saves some extra memory)

[brave panther]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-paw-paw-monkey-gif-17535679

core literally cracks

[turbid locust]

[topaz veldt]

not really - per CCD

lol 46.7k R23 w/ -45 CO -35 CO

[pure garnet]

i like how asus says -5 for you

for me it just says don’t touch it 😭

[turbid locust]

it’s super conservative

-20 all core just works on this chip

[pure garnet]

aida failed everything until i did -15

[turbid locust]

I run -10 cause I couldn’t get corecycler to work on IoT LTSC lmao

[green marsh]

@topaz veldt man, 16GB VRAM GPUs are so close, yet so far for some of the models https://gabriel.devenyi.ca/huggingface-estimate/ 😄

[hoary hatch]

I'm fine with HDMI in home theater
At least the home theater industry has landed on a port

[topaz veldt]

I thought about getting a 16GB GPU for my Terra

[shell void]

yeah but then you limit your potential to whatever the worst core is; i suppose it’s not extra effort if you’re willing to do that

but it would frustrate me

[topaz veldt]

Its ok

This is running -50 lol

-50 on CCD0 and -45 on CCD1 wtf

[shell void]

ive never tried running more than -40

[turbid locust]

make sure you’re measuring performance at each step too

[green marsh]

for MoE models it is usable. For 27B, not so much. I mean it is usable-ish, i had worse with my 2x 1080 Ti setup, but the drop is brutal.

[topaz veldt]

I just want to see what max UV is

[turbid locust]

I’ve seen chips do -35 stable but it’s just slower than -20

[topaz veldt]

-50 is absurd

[turbid locust]

Doesn’t matter if it’s just slower

[topaz veldt]

47K in R23

[green marsh]

this would be a 4080 Super performance GPU but with 20GB VRAM (so same everything as previous picture, just more VRAM)

[shell void]

i havent encountered that personally but i know it's possible

[topaz veldt]

The fact its stable is wild

@turbid locust my best so far https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/cinebench_-_r23_multi_core_with_benchmate/submissions/6010034

[shell void]

i hold higher effective clockspeeds with higher negative offsets even if it's not technically stable, and my benches will be higher

[turbid locust]

I mean it may still be me being am4 coded, but I’ve seen it happen with Zen 4 too

I think my 7700x does -40 without crashing but it’s just slower than -30

[shell void]

what are you testing as a speed benchmark?

it wouldnt surprise me if gaming and ycruncher measure worse when unstable, but i dont think it matters for cinebench

[turbid locust]

ycruncher, linpack extreme, and cinebench

[shell void]

[turbid locust]

cinebench score usually didn’t necessarily regress, but I’ve seen it basically stay the same between -20 and -30

but linpack and ycruncher scores will regress

[smoky orbit]

My favorite sxs of our fleet

[pure garnet]

<@&750150305383186585>

[merry stirrup]

smite this guy

[civic reef]

@smoky orbit goodnight!!!

[smoky orbit]

Goody nighty, see u tomorrow

[pure garnet]

you get your stuff friday

[civic reef]

Cya!!!! X3

[merry stirrup]

sick i think thats when i get fiber

[floral spear]

Alright im doing something stupid

[hoary hatch]

Good

[turbid locust]

So nothing new?

[floral spear]

I love making irresponsible purchases that will bite me back in the ass

[pure garnet]

“selected payment plan”

[floral spear]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-yunomiles-yuno-miles-raygun-ray-gun-gif-6287801090002179676

[pure garnet]

you should not be going into debt for a wheel and pedals

[floral spear]

0$ in debt 🔥

[nova patrol]

https://giphy.com/gifs/dog-he-made-a-statement-dont-listen-to-him-lTN2faY2TakGCvPuXl

[floral spear]

Never been negative since I was 17

[turbid locust]

probably another person that thinks those klarna type things are good

[pure garnet]

pay in 4 on a costco hotdog generation

[floral spear]

I only used those once actually

Never used it again

[nova patrol]

having debt is crazy

[turbid locust]

[pure garnet]

mac just assume everyone here is 14 until proven otherwise

it makes everything easier

[wraith steeple]

So more than half of this server

[random flame]

Lmao.

[wraith steeple]

Got it

[floral spear]

Im confused are you confused at someone thinking having debt is crazy or me using those BNPL shits?

[random flame]

To be frank, I tend to imagine people's voices to either be that of either a 7 year-old or 15 in most cases when reading stuff online, unless I get the gist or see something of them that imply otherwise.

[turbid locust]

I mean you basically have to

“Having debt is crazy” have you ever purchased anything over $5,000

[floral spear]

Oh the concept of debt

[nova patrol]

nah bro im poor

[floral spear]

Its not crazy to have debt tbh

[nova patrol]

type shi

[turbid locust]

we know

[nova patrol]

👍

yea cuz i said so

[floral spear]

But yes I have used Buy Now Pay Later service ONCE

But tbh it felt a bit too ominous to me so I stopped after

I just save up and buy what I want or go purchase them via my credit card which I always pay on time in full

Since idk what happens if I did the minimum or half of it

[pure garnet]

interest

[turbid locust]

has cc
doesn’t know how cc works

[late atlas]

Tbh just be smart with your finances, don't impulse buy, work whenever you can and save

[wraith steeple]

Congrats you have grasped a concept that the majority of Zoomers are seemling incapable of grasping

[floral spear]

But in the context of the wheel idk how that happened i probably clicked some shit, im just windows shopping

[nova patrol]

just dont buy stuff u dont need

[floral spear]

Im going around asking whats a good wheel and people won't frown when I say it

[turbid locust]

boring

[late atlas]

The new generation is so cooked, Instagram shop, 1 tap buy, Klarna, tiktok shop, finance everything

Tap buy*

[nova patrol]

i buy stuff i want then sell and so on

cuz im poor

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-roll-robert-downey-jr-ugh-gif-5677732297169440742

[late atlas]

I'm so glad I have self control

[nova patrol]

ok mister ironman billionaire

[wraith steeple]

Then stop leeching off the government

[floral spear]

I was coerced to get one by my parental figure I was fine with a debit card

[turbid locust]

Can’t remember the last time I willingly used a debit card

[nova patrol]

what

[late atlas]

I keep forgetting to use my credit card

[random flame]

My parents really distrust tap-buying.

[late atlas]

Mine love it

[floral spear]

I met 5 US Government Employees who we're on Google Cloud Next, you probably dont care but it just came up in my brain when you said it

[turbid locust]

meanwhile it’s quite literally one of the most secure ways to pay for shit

[late atlas]

Actually mac thank you

You've reminded me to use my credit card

[pure garnet]

i use it for pirate ship because i’m too lazy to link my cc

[floral spear]

I remember tap buying for French fries, they forced me to put the full details of my debit card so I just pulled it out like a fussy child and inserted it

[random flame]

Okay, so if it were you telling them this, how would you explain this to them?
Hypothetical question pretty much.

[turbid locust]

I mean it sounds like your parents lack the fundamental understanding of how computers and data work so it would be difficult

[dusty lance]

guyss

looking for help

[late atlas]

I'd just explain like advantages of physical and non physical

[dusty lance]

when i open apex legends every sound that comes from my headphones sounds just like its underwater

[late atlas]

You can explain it if you really want to, just need to dumb it down

[dusty lance]

any advice?

[late atlas]

That's most likely a hardware issue, what headset do you have

[dusty lance]

bluetooth ones, from soundcore

[floral spear]

That was an instant hijack but alright

[nova patrol]

hello im under the water please help me

[late atlas]

What is soundcore?

[dusty lance]

its a brand

[pallid marsh]

Ankers brand

[late atlas]

Are these headsets new or have you had them for a while

[late atlas]

Ah thank you

[dusty lance]

pretty new, less than a year

[late atlas]

And im guessing they were fine before and you've just got the problem?

[dusty lance]

but if i play only yt or anything else it works fine

[turbid locust]

Bluetooth on windows is the problem lmao

[late atlas]

So it sounds like shit with apex legends?

[dusty lance]

the problem starts only when i have the game open

yes

[late atlas]

Yeah that might just be a Bluetoothy thing

[topaz veldt]

[dusty lance]

if i use a cable is better?

[late atlas]

Try it

[random flame]

It's possible to, yeah.
Personally though, I'd rather not try to, even if I could.
And as a guy who came out of cybersecurity certification classes, I'm more on the threat hunter side of things, specifically meaning I just assume anything can be compromised and nobody even knows it is yet.

[turbid locust]

I really need to get around to inventorying my shit lol

[wraith steeple]

[topaz veldt]

Its annoying to keep up to date - and pricing is like back when I paid

[turbid locust]

mine would be an excel shit just to log wtf I have

I can’t even remember how many CPUs I have now

[topaz veldt]

Yeah I do that for tax shit when I sell

Because I sell "for profit" shit and "at a loss" shit in the same paypal account

[nova patrol]

ew taxes

[turbid locust]

don’t have to worry about it when you’re poor

[nova patrol]

exactly

[random flame]

Like the hackers of yore who take their hard drives with them, I don't trust anything sensitive going over the internet on the assumption that regardless of all the standards, protocols, and practices put in place, it won't matter what we do. Anything can go wrong, so it's best to just not trust any given service that sounds too good to be true if we talk security... Because a lot of things do (to me) often times.

[wraith steeple]

Learned Helplessness is scary thing indeed

[turbid locust]

100%

[nova patrol]

https://giphy.com/gifs/the-lion-doesnt-concern-himself-with-unemployment-cA1p4EzgqYCkTGSugd

[turbid locust]

when does it get funny

[nova patrol]

im not joking around

[random flame]

Dunno. I do know that I'm kinda bored of the topic now apparently. Lol.

[turbid locust]

like the 8th person this week in chat that makes being broke their entire personality

reverse vert is crazy

[nova patrol]

whatever you think bro

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/true-truth-nuke-squidward-mr-krabs-rock-gif-9714276628674837375

[topaz veldt]

rofl wtf

[nova patrol]

https://giphy.com/gifs/dog-he-made-a-statement-dont-listen-to-him-lTN2faY2TakGCvPuXl

[topaz veldt]

one more 9950X3D2 coming

[turbid locust]

idk dude mentioned he was broke and poor 3 times in the span of 15 mins

[turbid locust]

bruh

[placid blaze]

💸

[topaz veldt]

I am joking

[young void]

You snagged a 3rd? Trying to hit that silicon gem?

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/the-burnt-peanut-peanut-burnt-peanut-tarkov-streamer-gif-14326789258437402330

[nova patrol]

rich bomboclat millionaire

[turbid locust]

(if you buy something worth more than $5 he thinks you’re iron man)

[nova patrol]

ok 900$ cpu

[topaz veldt]

cheaper than the $3500 CPUs I have

[placid blaze]

I don't get people who buy the X3D2 but you do you

[random flame]

I wish I had that kind of money, but only because I can at least do things that are actually influential in some way to the industry itself.

[young void]

They have alittle extra juice for those that need/want it

[placid blaze]

you can get that juice with a mild overclock on the 9950X3D

[young void]

Certainly not recommended for the avg consumer

[wraith steeple]

If only I was born rich

[nova patrol]

https://giphy.com/gifs/lion-how-bro-felt-after-saying-that-granteeoh-k4lS6uG5C1MOtomUAH

[young void]

Not quite

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/theburntpeanut-bungulator-twitch-stare-got-em-gif-13218764415226663824

[random flame]

No, no I didn't.

... And that looks cursed btw.

[placid blaze]

okay I guess it has a bigger L3 cache but like... that's about it???

[young void]

Sorta but theres extra features fs

Snails scores i assume is x3d2 specific dont think he could push it on the x3d or x

[turbid locust]

not a single person ever thought this was a practical thing

[random flame]

Well more like 2 bigger caches instead of one. Lol.

[random flame]

Not even anyone at AMD either.

[turbid locust]

Yep

[young void]

I mean maybe but you'd have to ask him

Those extra watts

[random flame]

They just did it because... I guess some people asked for it and AMD's higher-ups were just like "well we do need something in response to Intel... Even if it literally doesn't make any sense."

[wraith steeple]

||I was born to a family that was part of a minority that faced heavy persecution in a country during a decade when the health system and economy collapsed and waited in literal breadlines..... which is anything but rich||

[random flame]

"Someone will be stupid enough to buy it."

[turbid locust]

NVL better be good otherwise AMD is gonna keep doing this bullshit lmao

[placid blaze]

like, I have a 9950X3D and it's fine and certainly more than I need right now but nothing I've seen has convinced me that a target market exists for the X3D2 beyond hardware whales

[livid flame]

Apparently the X3D2 is actually selling well

[turbid locust]

I mean halo products usually do

[livid flame]

Fair play to AMD and to those who buy it

[turbid locust]

Many people think the 5090 is impractical yet it sells no issue lol

[random flame]

I'm still wondering how disruptive it will be when Nvidia finally gets their "big boy Tegra" into the market.

[livid flame]

This is kind of like a halo product of a halo product with very little point to it tbh.

It’s not people buying it that surprises me, it’s that more people bought it in its launch week than 7500f’s

[random flame]

We already have Apple with the M series, we already have Ampere's cpus for the prosumer/datacenter market, Qualcomm... Exists I guess.

[livid flame]

Maybe it’s just the dynamic of AM5’rs upgrading CPUs more than new buyers

[placid blaze]

the 5090 actually has performance separation that differentiates it from other products in its class and that performance is measurable and substantial, the X3D2's performance gains may as well be margin of error for all intents and purposes

[random flame]

And I'm not going to bother mentioning Mediatek's current stuff, mostly because they need no introduction anyway... That anyone really cares about.

[turbid locust]

Weren’t 7500F’s tray only and only available in limited markets?

[livid flame]

It has a couple of niches where it performs way better than the single x3d. Again, niches.

[livid flame]

Nope sold everywhere now not just China

[topaz veldt]

This is the neighborhood where I was born 😬

[young void]

Be like that sometimes

[nova patrol]

born or grew up

[pallid marsh]

You lived in GTA 4?!

[topaz veldt]

Both

[topaz veldt]

rofl

[turbid locust]

I mean it’s the same vibe as the 9850X3D. I don’t remember people being up in arms in the same way.

[livid flame]

It’s not about where you come from, it’s about where you’re going

Forget who said that one

[topaz veldt]

I am going back to Micro Center for another 9950X3D2

[topaz veldt]

Monica Lewinsky

[livid flame]

If that’s true, that’s brilliant

[turbid locust]

Chat is making me wanna buy one lmao

[young void]

Theres a used listing but only 870 so far, myte as well get new for now

[turbid locust]

but 2080Ti fund would suffer

[livid flame]

I am sure the 2080ti won’t mind

[young void]

Keks

[pallid marsh]

Did you catch @frank cypress Bug?

[turbid locust]

nah

[topaz veldt]

@river mountain I am pretty sure Club3D is just out to make the shortest cable possible

[shell void]

how long before you have one in all of your am5 pcs?

[turbid locust]

I need to install proxmox and get shit going on the server tn

[shell void]

XD

[turbid locust]

Gotta figure out how tailscale works lol

[shell void]

they make cables to the exact specification and not a millimeter longer

[topaz veldt]

I just got a USB-C -> DP cable thats like 3 ft long

but it does 240 hz 4K for my MBP M3 Max

[turbid locust]

I need to cable manage my setup better

[shell void]

sweet

[topaz veldt]

would this have worked?

[shell void]

looks like a normal dp54Gbps cable to me so yeah it should be fine for a 4k240 video signal

dp1.4 and dp2.1 are back/forward compatible

[topaz veldt]

I'll see if 3.3 ft works

[young void]

Never to late

[placid blaze]

shove all cables into the basement

[topaz veldt]

The best case for cabling is BF 360

[young void]

I put in 4 pcie cables won't need 5 unless I get a msi board

[young void]

So much room for activitiess

[placid blaze]

I just like simple office pc cases so silverstone is usually my go-to brand

the fara 513 is actually one of the best cases I've ever used

a lot of that is personal preference, but yeah

[young void]

I usually get cooler masters td500 v2 but its kinda snug on a 5090s 12vpwr so ive lately used lian lis 217 mostly just for the extra fans

[placid blaze]

transparent side panel 🤢

I know, you basically can't buy a case without one these days and that sucks

[young void]

Be like that sometimes

[placid blaze]

consider the following

https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/product/info/computer-chassis/seh2_b/

[topaz veldt]

Everyone tune in to the flyers game

[shell void]

i hope we get to see a new case from them at Computex, theyve been cooking so far

[topaz veldt]

disappointed in the fans - I have to email them again

[shell void]

do you think yours are defective?

[topaz veldt]

I dunno - I don't see how eveyrone is like "these are great" but mine have a low freq hum

I removed them for 140mm G2s - I need to test them outside of a case and see

[pure garnet]

@shell void

2 okay cores and then generally same tier of slop

[topaz veldt]

that thing is unfortunate

[shell void]

they’re all pretty similar aside from the two that are 30mv better

could be worse

i would hate to have a couple or cores that are like 100mv better

[pure garnet]

it does good mem and fclk so i honestly don’t care

[steel stream]

https://youtu.be/zl-wAqplQAo just watched a 2 hour long video about bird watching

[frank cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-peabody-hypnotize-gif-18017563854157472082

@turbid locust you NEEEEED to buy 8x 2080tis

doubling and giving my mental illness onto the next person

[shell void]

he needs a board that supports x8+x8, and a couple of 22GB chineseum 2080Tis

[fringe vigil]

https://klipy.com/gifs/run-rush-2--k01KQ3MHXH6C2M6ST77CY8ZNE59

FLINT LOCKWOOD

[nova patrol]

flint lock from fortnite?

[frank cypress]

22gb 2080tis are surprisingly cheap on xianyu

[low sorrel]

@pallid marsh what ze hell are these factionas

[frank cypress]

they're like..... 1500-1800 yuan or around 300 smth cad

for that sorta capacity and performance, that's kinda.... good?

[low sorrel]

what's xianyu

[frank cypress]

chinese ebay more or less

[low sorrel]

oh so taobao but used?

[storm hatch]

ltt screw driver just came in and I got to do my first build with it

[frank cypress]

i think they are owned by alibaba yeah

[south shuttle]

more like it's own thing

[frank cypress]

i mean, they do literally have taobao in their links 🤣

in fairness to him

but yes, very much just it's own thing in functionality

[shell void]

i think that's why he's interested

[nova patrol]

i like pinduoduo better

[south shuttle]

tmall is more premium'ish retail, taobao is more like standard retail ig, and xianyu is marketplace

[frank cypress]

oh i see, yeah im curious myself if they're worth buying at all

[south shuttle]

alibaba is wholesale

[frank cypress]

i think tmall is more... vetted, more like select stores that have a bunch of ratings and above a certain standard

[nova patrol]

normal 2080tis go for 1400 yuan ish i dont think the 22gb would be 1500-1800

[frank cypress]

i remembering seeing a few for that price a while ago

[nova patrol]

a while ago

6-7 months atleast

[frank cypress]

which is why i was interested in it till it's hardly an upgrade to my 4000 ada sff

[frank cypress]

yeah that actaully sounds fairly accurate

[nova patrol]

cheapest 22gb ive found is 1996 yuan

[frank cypress]

how much are they now?

i mean stil really cheap, relative to $$$/vram

[nova patrol]

im looking rn

[frank cypress]

you see how much used RTX titans are?

lowest I've ever seen locally has been $700 cad

[south shuttle]

highway robbery

[frank cypress]

they're not cheap in china either, usually 3500-4000 yuan if my memory serves correct

[frank cypress]

i mean, it pretty much is just a collectable

[nova patrol]

yea rtx 3090 and titans have super useless prices

[frank cypress]

i've seen 6000 quadro RTXs for similar once

[pallid marsh]

Friendly fire faction

[nova patrol]

way more expensive than local prices

[frank cypress]

yeah 100%

[south shuttle]

rtx 3090 is a titan basicly without titan naming

3090 prices aren't halfbad either

[frank cypress]

i bought an rtx 3090 for $700 cad like 2 years ago

[nova patrol]

the old titans are good for the price

[frank cypress]

now they go for like, 1.1k cad :/

[nova patrol]

especially the titan v i really love that card

sexy card

[south shuttle]

i can hear the blower fan just from the picture

[frank cypress]

tbh 3090s are kinda stinky anyways

[nova patrol]

i wish there was a non blower model

or more golden gpus

[south shuttle]

20 series fe are stiiinkk

they look coool

but if you want to disassemble them

[frank cypress]

https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/sop/d/lynnwood-nvidia-quadro-rtx-6000-pci/7927191654.html

technically cheap for the model

but definitely not worth it

for context:

[south shuttle]

every time i see quadro i think of quattro formaggi pizza

can't help it

[frank cypress]

wait actually, doing the conversion in my head

it's not even cheap, i just remembered that is in seattle so it's USD

[south shuttle]

passive cooled is +3pts

[frank cypress]

the fact that these pieces of shit are worth the same price as they were 2 years ago pisses me off

[nova patrol]

is a rtx5000 good in gpu i think its 16gb vram

oh its a quadro

3060 desktop power yikes

[south shuttle]

more vram than 5090 tho

[frank cypress]

i don't care that's still way too much for them

i still want to eat drywall from that deal on the a6000 i missed

[south shuttle]

AI AI AI A I artificial intelligence

[frank cypress]

2.5k cad a6000 💔

if only i had money 😔

[south shuttle]

same but i want to because i missed on 3x profit bc i sold my silicon-related stocks too early

[frank cypress]

argh

[south shuttle]

could've had a 5090 xdd

[frank cypress]

whatever, i guess i should be grateful for what i have

i just can't help myself but yearn for more

[south shuttle]

i dropped them when i sa negative earnings, and then they went 3x despite continous negative earnings

almost went crazy

brain melt

[south shuttle]

i'm happy with my 3090

does everything i need

[frank cypress]

it's a good card, my one was just a piece of shit lol

[south shuttle]

what happened

[frank cypress]

terrible rear vram temps

[south shuttle]

new TIM didn't fix?

[frank cypress]

i think i didn't bother because the heatsink had some uh.... corrosion on it

[south shuttle]

i repadded my 3090 with thermal putty and it burned my fingers when i touched the card

[frank cypress]

not the heatsink itself but rather

the part that the fans screwed onto

[shell void]

yeesh

[frank cypress]

i think that part wasn't aluminium but rather steel or something, so since the guy lived seaside, i guess a mix of salt and humidity fucked it up

sold it to a friend for a slight loss, but i didn't mind cause well, it's a friend

if i held onto it though i would've actually made money on it 🤣

lemme see if i can find a picture of it

[shell void]

iirc the hottest temp that i measured on the back of my 5090 was 87c behind the power connector

that was after soaking at 800W

[south shuttle]

most metal corrosions can be removed

[frank cypress]

my rear vram was constantly at like, 104c

[nova patrol]

anyone know if the lenovo g5000 series laptops are good

[south shuttle]

but harder part is preventing the corrosion from happening again

[frank cypress]

i think that's well within gddr6x spec but like

yeesh

[frank cypress]

tbh i just also hated the power consumption of it

[shell void]

yeah that's within spec but unfortunate

i dont like the idea of memory running at 100c+ even if it's technically fine

knowing how ram has instability and throttling problems with higher temperatures

[south shuttle]

tuf

that looks fixable nou?

[shell void]

oh man that's grody

[frank cypress]

probably was but again didn't really ever bother with it because i just.... didn't really care for the card much

[south shuttle]

tuf cards are cool

[frank cypress]

i just remember my 4070ti matching it in performance at like, half the power draw

of course, it also had like half the vram but like

[low sorrel]

Guess what I just did

[south shuttle]

phoenix, dual, dual mini r junk

[shell void]

shouldve taken it to china and had it made into a 3090 48GB blower card smh ennui

[frank cypress]

i thought they only had 4090 48gb using the 3090 pcb 🤔

[shell void]

idk

it was my understanding that they make custom PCBs and transfer everything over

[south shuttle]

turn 3090 into grill

[frank cypress]

maybe yeah, i have no idea how they're made

black magic probably

[shell void]

this is what ive seen in the documentaries

[frank cypress]

ah probably then

[shell void]

they have newly made custom PCBs and they transfer the core + vram over

i havent seen a 3090 48GB though

[frank cypress]

arghhh just took mental damage from thinking about the siggraph 6000 blackwell WS giveaway again

[frank cypress]

pretty sure they don't exist yeah

[south shuttle]

@frank cypress btw i had to repair two 3070s

the repair was a simple tim fix

[frank cypress]

oh fr?

[south shuttle]

because the 2 cards were shutting down thermally when i loaded it with something mid such as 3dmark time spy

105c and ded

[frank cypress]

lol

[south shuttle]

one of them was tuf 3070 oc

the other palit gamingpro

idk what they used but both pastes on core turned into bri'ish crisps

[frank cypress]

tbh im ngl im kinda over upgrading my pc

[south shuttle]

thermal pads on the tuf turned into a some sort of rock

[frank cypress]

i feel like theres nothing within a reasonable price range that would actually improve the quality of the time i spend at my pc in terms of components

[shell void]

is your pro 4000 sff still chugging along happily?

[frank cypress]

yeah

it's enough for UE5 🤷‍♂️

[south shuttle]

as far as i know the cards haven't been substantially loaded for prolonged amounts of time and they have been sitting quite few months on the shelve before they got to me

[frank cypress]

i really want to get a nicer projector but that'll probably be when i get a j*b

[south shuttle]

also had two msi 3070s and those were all good

temps like new

[frank cypress]

something like a hisense c2 looks nice

[steel stream]

please sensor that word

[nova patrol]

from minecraft?

[south shuttle]

mincecraft

oh no i foror that i'm running out of thermal putty

[south shuttle]

senzor

[nova patrol]

i guess bro

[frank cypress]

haha unfortunately there's probably gonna be nothing out there when i graduate 😔

[nova patrol]

graduate?

kanye referance

[frank cypress]

pretty sure most of the internships within my industry are usually closer to like.... march/april/may

and they're so highly competitive that i just don't see that working out

junior positions are also like, more or less nonexistent

[wraith steeple]

[frank cypress]

i think SPI for example, only take 3 candidates for modeling per year in Vancouver for their internship, or at least as far as I've heard

it's not impossible because i know a couple of people who've landed it, but the bar is just so high

[frank cypress]

hi bass, been a while

have any cool builds cooking atm?

[south shuttle]

become a professional market speculator and lose 99% of your savings

[nova patrol]

gold gold gold?

[wraith steeple]

I did the Y60 rebuild though that's about it lately

[south shuttle]

bull bull bull

[steel stream]

I love Kalhsi

[frank cypress]

oh neat 👀

[frank cypress]

i don't know jack about stocks but i was looking at rheinmetall stocks a while ago and jeez

[wraith steeple]

[south shuttle]

i can teach you some basics if you want

[frank cypress]

they went from under 100 euro in like 2021, to 1600~ today

german rearmament be going crazy i guess

[south shuttle]

pick stocks that don’t dilute it’s shareholders

don’t trade in leverages

don’t short

[frank cypress]

oh cool, is that a heatkiller block for the gpu?

[south shuttle]

if you want to short something then but everything else outside that sector

[frank cypress]

build looks clean af

[wraith steeple]

My first time using a Distro Plate too

[frank cypress]

tbh if i ever invested id just go for things that are safe af, i just feel really risk adverse when it comes to money if it's anything over like $100

[south shuttle]

groupe minoteries is my personal favourite

[steel stream]

Just S&P 500 and let it sit

[frank cypress]

dude i should just follow my cousin's footsteps

this dude bought penny stocks or something and made like 100k+

[south shuttle]

5-7.5% profit a year since 2005, 2-5% dividends, no dilution history since digitization

company was founded in 1885

[steel stream]

These are exactly the stories you don’t follow

[frank cypress]

idk the specifics cause i don't do that sorta thing but for my understanding he basically won the lottery lol

in terms of how lucky he is

[steel stream]

Yeah all those stories are just the lottery

[frank cypress]

i mean tbh as long as you're beating inflation that's something, i guess

[steel stream]

It’s the reason why I don’t gamble, all those stories of insane winnings will cause me to lose all my money

[south shuttle]

i made the most amount of money off penny stocks but also lost the most amount on penny stocks

[frank cypress]

personally i just feel way more sad when i lose than happy when i win

[south shuttle]

they made me nothing in total

[frank cypress]

well, pass small amounts

[frank cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/boomer-gambling-boomer-gamble-gambling-boomer-slots-boomers-gif-5999621320771440284

is what i'm hearing

[south shuttle]

buy indexes from all over the world

relying on just us is also risky a bit

[steel stream]

Yeah I do that too

[pure garnet]

i’ll do $20 in penny slots then never gamble after on trips

[nova patrol]

gold gold gold

[south shuttle]

truth

[steel stream]

Not showing my balance but I’m doing ok

[frank cypress]

ooooooo

i presume graph go up = good?

[steel stream]

Ye

[frank cypress]

hell yeah

[south shuttle]

how much %

[south shuttle]

only time you want for graph go down is when you want to buy cheap or when you want to short for some reason (latter is not recommended)

[frank cypress]

oh i see

[steel stream]

15%

If I did my math right

[frank cypress]

the more i hear about stocks it lowkey just seems like gacha for adults

[south shuttle]

it is gambling yes

nobody guarantees that a crisis won’t come and swoop stocks down 75%

[steel stream]

Yup

[frank cypress]

so much winning

i mean whaaaaaat

[steel stream]

BUY BUY BUY

[south shuttle]

if it goes down so much yh if you had gold in hand, exchanged that for fiat and bought shares at 75% discount that would be firaah

well, it’s not really discount but yk yk

it may recover

[south shuttle]

buy high sell low better hahah

[steel stream]

This is the true method

[south shuttle]

xd

ngl that’s the strategy that most self-proclaimed gurus recommend

get in when there’s a carry

or take a ride

a day passes and you’re down 60% with their advice

[frank cypress]

just wondering, is there a reason why you can't just copy someone else's portfolio?

[south shuttle]

many platforms allow that

[frank cypress]

i've never really understood why can't someone look at someone who is really sucessful and just copy them down to the T

[steel stream]

You can, there are websites that let you copy us politicians profiles

[frank cypress]

and see similar sucess i mean

[south shuttle]

history rhymes, doesn’t repeat

[frank cypress]

if you buy and sell the same stock as they buy wouldn't you be mad sucessful?

[south shuttle]

their next action might not be a win

[frank cypress]

but i feel like i don't hear people doing that

[frank cypress]

i feel like there's a lot more certainty in that but idk

[pure garnet]

their filings are delayed a bit iirc

[frank cypress]

not the stream delay for the stream snipers

[steel stream]

Yeah the issue with following is that you need to have an near equal amount of money

[south shuttle]

even the best investors take losses in bad times

even warren buffett had his losses

[frank cypress]

oh i wasn't aware of that

[south shuttle]

and best is the 0.0001%

[steel stream]

Buffet can shrug off losses, I can’t

[frank cypress]

oh lol

makes sense

[south shuttle]

buffet can buy entire corps

[steel stream]

Shrug off is a better phrase

[south shuttle]

i mean he could

he stepped down lately

btw out of largest us blue chip stocks i’d buy brk.a

looks good on paper to me

[steel stream]

I should have bought intel smh

I’m a fake fan

[south shuttle]

i had intel at $23

i sold once again when i saw negative earnings

[south shuttle]

if you would buy literally anything silicon-related like wafers or machines you’d make 2-3x

almost entire silicon market is just a bubble

at the price they’re buying the shares… profit won’t appear very soon

and that’s assuming nothing goes wrong

[split night]

So I am about to start my classes for computer science i am supposed to buy a laptop i was told to either buy windows or a Mac which one is better for computer science work

[south shuttle]

but ig it doesn’t matter even if something goes wrong because some companies with increasingly more negative earnings also went 2-3x cause… silicon wafers

and lasers

[indigo walrus]

Depends entirely on the software you'll be running and what kind of performance / features you need. Competent schools should provide this information, though most schools just say "i7" or "current gen MacBook" without saying anything useful about the actual specs you're supposed to look for. It's awful and these institutions should do better.

[split night]

Yes that is what they said they said current MacBook i7 or ryzen 7

[steel stream]

@hoary hatch do you have any recs for a solid beginner digital camera? Looking at getting into it

[indigo walrus]

Um, yeah they don't know shit. Apple hasn't made an i7 Macbook in years. Ask for more information before you begin your search. If they can't give you more information, apply at a new school that knows what they're doing.

[south shuttle]

budget?

[steel stream]

I’m a comp engineer in school rn, MacBook or windows will be fine it’s just whatever you like

[south shuttle]

best value digital camera would be an amazon return nexigo n60 for $1 xdd

[split night]

No i mean they said get a current MacBook or a windows laptop with a i7 or a ryzen 7

[indigo walrus]

Ohhh gotcha, commas would have helped. That makes more sense then. For me, I'd be looking at a Dell or Lenovo laptop from their business lineup, or a MacBook Pro with M# Pro processor. You'll want gobs of RAM too.

[split night]

Yes sorry about that

[steel stream]

I guess 500-1000, ideally close to the lower end

[south shuttle]

big sensor size

[split night]

I have honestly never even used a MacBook i have only ever used windows computers

[south shuttle]

that’s all i say

big sensor is 💪

[steel stream]

Probs just stick with what you are used to then

[steel stream]

Yuh I know that

[split night]

Okay I will look around i have never used a MacBook before so I will look at my windows options

[south shuttle]

what will you be shooting?

[split night]

Alright I will do thay thank you everyone for your help

[steel stream]

Hope to do some traveling to state parks, so like land spaces, maybe animals

[south shuttle]

go on youtube and search if you want telephoto, prime or wide angle lens

you want to capture as much light as possible so you get the most amount of detain and least amount of grain

f=1 lenses if you want to capture lot of light, has to be a decent quality model, but at that price you might need to get a used camera

f=1.4-2.0 - less maximum light but cheaper

[steel stream]

oh yeah I am going used for sure

[pure garnet]

if you're programming macos is slightly nicer since it supports most build tools in the default terminal but windows with wsl will also work for 99% of work

[shell void]

telephoto lens my beloved

im stuck buying pro iphones specifically because of the telephoto lens

[pure garnet]

the macbook neo for $499 is honestly the college value play

[shell void]

i use 4-8x frequently

[pure garnet]

i need the 0.5 lens

[merry stirrup]

so i have a broken ddr3 dimm that i put in my board (i forgot it was broken) but it worked just fine until the system failed to post then it refused to train again with it no matter what

[pure garnet]

more than any other one

[south shuttle]

buy a real cam and feel the difference

[pure garnet]

bc i have to take up close shots at work and it's the only one that focuses on it

[split night]

Alright yeah i am going to be doing programming and coding and a bunch of other things

[shell void]

i only use the ultrawide lens for taking joke photographs like shoving the camera up to my dog's nose, i could live without it

[merry stirrup]

when i put my other dimms which are entirely different back in, let it train on them, then put the broken dimm in, it always works, even with its matched pair

[shell void]

telephoto is essential

[steel stream]

i've got a film camera rn which is nice to have, but I'd also like a modern camera

[pure garnet]

it's not that you can't write code on windows the build tools are just easier to run on macos

just run xcode-select --install and you're setup

[steel stream]

I was going to watch the thing tonight but it's too late and too dark out now

[pure garnet]

my 7700t was installed today

[shell void]

i dont think i would use it often enough to justify it tbh

[pure garnet]

my jellyfin rejoices from ht and 2mb more of l3 cache

[shell void]

i dont purposefully go outside to take photos

[steel stream]

keyboard warrior

[shell void]

ill just happen to see something that i want to take a photo of, and i wouldnt have the real camera on me 9/10 times in that case

[south shuttle]

fair

[steel stream]

yeah I just want a camera for trips and stuff, I'm planning on going to a lot more national parks soon, and it would be nice to have it for that

[shell void]

no doubt

[steel stream]

but for the most part the iPhone camera is rock solid

[pure garnet]

it's so peak

[shell void]

the forced post processing frustrates me because i don't like how it alters the image most of the time

often times the pre-filtered preview looks better xD

[steel stream]

real

i'll take a photo, look at it in the app later and be confused

[shell void]

i also find it incredibly dumb that they dont give you manual white balance control in the native camera app

[steel stream]

why would your "pro" camera phone need that?

[shell void]

if they would just allow me to set white balance and stop overprocessing my photos then id be happy as a clam

[steel stream]

i think you can do that with Project Indigo

but I hate having a camera app other than the built in one lol

[shell void]

oh god it’s adobe

[merry stirrup]

4690K does 223W in yc

[steel stream]

yeah that's another issue lol

[steel stream]

but with the pro mode you can set focus, shutter speed + ISO,exposure, and then temperature and tint

[gleaming coral]

so i was searching for chinese ai builds and find this one upon searching more i get to know abuot this https://www.hygon.cn/product/cpu

anyone here used this product in past ?

[shell void]

that sounds mint

does it cost ten million dollars?

[steel stream]

nah it's free

[shell void]

[steel stream]

i don't think there are any payments for it

[shell void]

so they’re using every photo and video taken to train their own LLMs

[steel stream]

i have it on my phone, and if I paid for it I'm stupid

[steel stream]

smth like that probably yeah

worth it

[shell void]

time to spam adobe servers with photographs of my johnson

[steel stream]

they're gonna get hella photos of the weird bumps and bruises I find

[south shuttle]

anyways for your budget @steel stream f=1.4 or f=2.0 and inbetween should be fine

[pallid marsh]

Shot at Trump's dinner?

[low sorrel]

no comment

[shell void]

thanks for the suggestion king i think im gonna download that and play with it tomorrow

[south shuttle]

most of the better models can go down to like f=16 from f=1.4

[steel stream]

I got you, I always forget I have the app and remember it every year

[south shuttle]

also why i say f=16 when it’s f/16

[steel stream]

ok got you, I appreciate the advice I'll make sure to do some more research

[south shuttle]

yeah i’m not expert in dedicated cams so, do your research

don’t exaactly know what you’re going to shoot

like how you imagine

[analog scroll]

camera

[south shuttle]

cannon

[analog scroll]

gigalens

[analog scroll]

custom made frame too

he machined it by hand

[south shuttle]

kamera

[floral spear]

Does anyone have a racing gaming wheel recommendation?

[brisk jolt]

more force feedback nm

i have the R3, its fine but I think preferably its higher

[low sorrel]

I really wanna grab this one because it so good hardware for 400 usd

but also look so stupid

[brisk jolt]

i wanna get a h pattern that does not look fuckass or has the build quality of shit

[low sorrel]

I heard the turtle beach one is decent

[low sorrel]

define fuck ass

[brisk jolt]

what u said about the turtlebeach

[low sorrel]

the turtle beach shifter looks fine

but not the wheel

[brisk jolt]

i previously thought of getting the moza but it looks so shit

[low sorrel]

hear me out

https://www.amazon.com/Universal-Manual-Cover，PU-Leather-Shifter/dp/B07G5GTY17/

put it on top

[low sorrel]

apperenity looks like this according to reddit afterwards

[pallid marsh]

Nice postal code

[merry stirrup]

https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/cinebench_-_r23_multi_core_with_benchmate/submissions/6010943
https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/7-zip/submissions/6010945
https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/y-cruncher_-_pi-1b/submissions/6010944

couple of scores

[low sorrel]

thank you amazon for getting it wrong

[analog scroll]

Feel free to ship it to my house if I can keep it

similar code

[floral spear]

I want to get the sequential ones

[pallid marsh]

But it ain't

[brittle trellis]

Why would you want turtle beach shit when you can get a DD set for that

[low sorrel]

it's 8nm dd

[brisk jolt]

still looks weird like an inbetween

[brittle trellis]

Their advertising sucks then lol

[low sorrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi81-oAU_uY

[brisk jolt]

idk cuz im alrdy on moza ecosystem

[hoary hatch]

High end late gen dslrs are cheap second hand

[green marsh]

the next year one maybe. this years is meh

[pure garnet]

there’s no other new machine at its price point that’s a better buy

[green marsh]

the one next year should be A19 Pro and 12GB RAM

[pure garnet]

that is also assuming it’ll refresh next year

[green marsh]

https://www.macrumors.com/2026/04/07/macbook-neo-a19-pro-chip-next-year/ 🤷‍♂️

[pure garnet]

the m1 air was kept around a long time as the low cost entry model

[indigo walrus]

https://www.dpreview.com/buying-guides

[turbid locust]

I really like the concept of the Neo but after checking one out in person I’m not sure I can get over how small it is

[green marsh]

@topaz veldt Turboquant is a nice idea, but the performance loss is brutal in my case. at ~70k context the token generation is halved with the dense 27B model. Maybe later when the implementations will be better it will make sense

[brisk jolt]

@low sorrel i think indeed the turtlebeach is the best looking sports car lookin shifter

[minor herald]

i looked at its specs and it has more memory bandwidth then 9850x3d with ddr5 8000 ram

[green marsh]

which is still too slow for LLM and for anything else it is pointless

[turbid locust]

what a shit take

[minor herald]

well a r9 7900 gets more banwidth with ddr5 6000

and 270k with ddr5 8000 gets way more bandwidth

and LLM loves there memory bandwidth

[turbid locust]

Nobody is running local AI on a fuckin Neo is my point

[brisk jolt]

can it even run anything not extremely shit with that measly 8gb ram

[turbid locust]

How are we still having this conversation

[brisk jolt]

idk they’re talking about bandwidth im asking if it can even run

[minor herald]

most LLM need to like read allmost all of the memory for each token so 120GB model that allready like 2 seconds on 9800x3d with ddr5 8000

[brisk jolt]

yeah and Im asking about the neo not the 9800

[turbid locust]

idk why we’re talkin about this shit in the context of a $500 laptop

[minor herald]

dose the model fit into 8GB?

[brisk jolt]

yeah so the conversation shouldnt even exist

[low sorrel]

name me one person buying a 500 dollar laptop for llms

[brisk jolt]

leme just disable CCD1 to make a bootleg 9850x3d brb

[night moss]

does anyone know a fix for this i just installed linux mint on the hdd but this comes up and when i reinstall it says its already there, my laptop is a hp elitebook 2670p

[minor herald]

found some image reconiuon models under 1GB

its nothing crazy just reading chess board positions

[minor herald]

lol

[fervent chasm]

@brave panther

Not much longer

[vivid kiln]

15" is just about perfect for a laptop for me. The Neo is the ideal device for many iPad users. Not for power users

[turbid locust]

Yeah I think 15” is the sweet spot for folks that actually use a laptop on the go

13” is just… uncomfortable to use for not much more perceived portability imo

But a 15” Neo would probably kill the 15” Air lol

[fervent chasm]

My latitude is a 14” and I love it

I was surprised how small it looks but I got used to it

[vivid kiln]

Well, part of the incredible cost comes from having not as great of hardware. That's why I cited the iPad users. The people in coffee shops trying to do work on a little 11" tablet lol

[teal kite]

I think my gpu is not good? What gpu do I have?

Sorry I only have a HTC Dream to take a photo rn

[turbid locust]

what. the. fuck.

[fervent chasm]

I think it’s a carrot uh

https://tenor.com/view/beetlejuice-just-hanging-around-gif-9969679485088044404

[vivid kiln]

14 is just slightly too cramped for my taste

15 is perfect

[fervent chasm]

mm? That’s huge

[vivid kiln]

17 is huge

[turbid locust]

Yeah I guess I could see that. It’s just that it’s marketed for students/casual users and… 13” is just too small for that. At that point I think it would make more sense to buy an iPad with an attachable keyboard lol.

[fervent chasm]

[vivid kiln]

Good luck trying to finish your Digital Tools 212 assignment without Photoshop

[turbid locust]

Right lol

[vivid kiln]

On a device that costs more than the Neo lol

[fervent chasm]

The laptops with the AI mega ultra 395 mobile chips are tiny

13.4” display

[turbid locust]

I probably would’ve bought a Neo if it wasn’t 13”

[brisk jolt]

fsr quality

[fervent chasm]

It’s not even really a laptop it’s like a tablet with a flip out keyboard

These

[vivid kiln]

If somebody can afford a 15" Air, they can go for it. But if the options are, go to school with nothing, or go to school with a Neo, it makes a whole lot of sense

[turbid locust]

I mean yeah obviously

but anyone that would only need the power of a Neo would likely be fine on an equivalently priced windows machine lol

[fervent chasm]

$50 laptop from the 2010s is better

[vivid kiln]

Ooh. Definitely not lol. There are a lot of advantages in the screen, battery, etc.

[fervent chasm]

It does suck that the Neo has no cooling, apparently it would be not that bad of a gaming machine if it didn’t thermal throttle so much during it

[turbid locust]

we just moving the goalpost atp

[pure garnet]

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[turbid locust]

if you like the neo that’s fine bruh lmao

[vivid kiln]

Not in the slightest. We're talking about the efficacy of it for college students.

[pure garnet]

how have we gone from neo good for college to neo gaming and llms, this channel loses the plot constantly with that laptop

[fervent chasm]

what llms

[teal kite]

Linus

[turbid locust]

seems like a lot of work just to keep that dogshit shape

[fervent chasm]

[turbid locust]

yeah constantly lmao

[vivid kiln]

That's the general disconnect here. Almost everyone believes that the entire world plays 16 hours of WoW a day while self hosting 200 apps.

[wraith steeple]

[vivid kiln]

Makes it difficult to have a common sense conversation

[fervent chasm]

I don’t feel like that’s the case here at all

[brisk jolt]

next thing you know some fuck will be saying the magic word

[turbid locust]

It’s not but lol

[wraith steeple]

I just got here

[fervent chasm]

I think the most I see here is ram and cpu OC

[pure garnet]

at $499 new you are not getting a better made google docs notes and basic use machine from another vendor, it doesn’t need to be a professional level machine

[vivid kiln]

What do you mean? We were talking about using it for school and productivity, and you jump in with "too bad it doesn't have cooling, can't game on it"

[turbid locust]

Think it entirely depends on the actual workload

[pure garnet]

if you’re an engineering student then yeah the neo is completely dead in the water

[turbid locust]

At least for what I was doing in college, the Neo would not have been the buy. Before college in traditional grade school? Neo would’ve been fkin awesome.

[vivid kiln]

You also aren't in the 600 region for laptops anymore either

[fervent chasm]

How does that get interpreted to 200 self hosted apps and 16 hours of wow a day

[pure garnet]

my whole degree could’ve been done on the neo but that’s also because everything is just a remote vm nowadays

the only time i needed a real computer with horsepower was the linux research i did for a semester and then i used my 12900ks

[vivid kiln]

Careful, you'll summon the Chromebook crowd

[turbid locust]

That’s the method. Have the budget for a $2000 laptop? Build a $1500 home server to self host everything and buy a Neo to access it

[turbid locust]

That’s the neos direct competition

[fervent chasm]

What’s wrong with this

[pure garnet]

i deadass did that

[fervent chasm]

I did that with my pc

[turbid locust]

when the fuck did I say there was anything wrong with it

mfs just be saying shit rn

[pure garnet]

i have a 1245u thinkpad and a 12700k+2070 super “nas” sitting at home to parsec into for stuff

[fervent chasm]

I thought you were saying it sarcastically because of the emoji

[turbid locust]

same. I had a 3500u laptop and if I needed any actual power I remoted into my gaming pc in my dorm lol

[fervent chasm]

That but mine had a 6400U but I don’t really need to remote anymore, my laptop now has the 1185G7

I need a new battery tho

[turbid locust]

But on some real shit I don’t think there’s anything I would personally need to do on a laptop rn that couldn’t be done on my phone lol

[pure garnet]

i don’t make big purchases on my phone

it feels wrong

[turbid locust]

What counts as a big purchase

[wraith steeple]

Define big purchase

[turbid locust]

because I have Apple pay’d $2400 LMFAO

[vivid kiln]

Also, super annoying. Bad user interface design, back gestures sometimes closing the keyboard or sometimes starting you over from the very beginning...

[pure garnet]

i booked my flight on my laptop

but i’ve spent similar money on computer shit on my phone fine

[fervent chasm]

The other way was funnier, made it seem like you booked it on the plane haha

[vivid kiln]

Oh, and popup stuff on mobile is very annoying for purchases too. Much easier to block on a computer.

[pure garnet]

yeah real

i just don’t buy anything on my phone that i want to ensure goes through

[turbid locust]

I’ve operated out of my phone for the past several years

[fervent chasm]

I stopped buying computer parts lately I basically spent all my fun money on them

[vivid kiln]

Credit card autofill is also way more annoying on mobile

[wraith steeple]

I will be putting the hobby on hold soon since tomorrow will dictate if I have to be out on temporary disability because my health decided to be the Hindenburg..... Isn't that so much fun?!

[pure garnet]

my phone is only really used at work or rn when i should be sleeping but im stalling

[turbid locust]

Apple Pay

[fervent chasm]

Apple pay

Jinx

[vivid kiln]

No thanks lmao

[fervent chasm]

It’s the best thing to exist especially when apps have it built into it for their purchases

[pure garnet]

yeah i use apple pay all the time

[vivid kiln]

Privacy card with separate limits for every purchase

[fervent chasm]

Some websites also

[turbid locust]

How schizophrenic are you?

[fervent chasm]

That’s the next level tho

[pure garnet]

it’s also more cash back on the apple card

[vivid kiln]

Just been around long enough to deal with the problems.

[fervent chasm]

Ah I don’t have the card

[vivid kiln]

I also don't have an iPhone as my primary device

[pure garnet]

i only really do for the option to finance if need be

[turbid locust]

[fervent chasm]

I thought people said iPhones were more secure generally, how true is that even

[pure garnet]

the savings account sounded good in theory but it kinda sucks

[vivid kiln]

It's true, mostly

[pure garnet]

like it works fine and as advertised it’s just

[fervent chasm]

How come not daily it then?

[pure garnet]

not all that useful when i don’t spend a lot

[fervent chasm]

Since you seem like you’re more leaning that way

[vivid kiln]

Most people are compromised through social engineering nowadays, not vulnerabilities

[turbid locust]

Apple devices are pretty secure until they receive a letter from a government body

[fervent chasm]

That was only the UK for now tho right?

[turbid locust]

No it’s everywhere lmao

[pure garnet]

no they did the opposite for the uk

[fervent chasm]

I remember something with the UK

[pure garnet]

they shut off encryption entirely in the uk to avoid backdooring it

well end to end*

[vivid kiln]

I am very very very far from leaning that way, I don't understand what made you think otherwise.

My iPhone is my camera and a test device for software development, nothing more. There are about 17 reasons I won't daily one.

[turbid locust]

I just like my iPhone because it does the phone thing

[pure garnet]

realistically though if you’re getting a warrant from the feds to open your phone you’ve done some crazy ass shit

[turbid locust]

Yeah

But it’s like surprisingly funny how not that hard it is to get into an Apple device in the context of digital forensics

[fervent chasm]

What’s the dumbest (meaning like not smart-phone) modern phone you can get then

[pure garnet]

i also just buy iphones because they phone well enough

well actually i also think the apple watch is the only decent smartwatch but mine is so old it’s not really a factor anymore

[turbid locust]

idk probably a flip phone

[turbid locust]

agree lol

[vivid kiln]

An iPhone with no apps installed and notifications off. Unless you like to have actual security vulnerability

[vivid kiln]

One of my reasons for not using an iPhone is my Garmin actually lol

[wraith steeple]

A flip phone (like an older style) is more than enough for my phone needs

[pure garnet]

i had a galaxy watch for like

[vivid kiln]

But that's less of a smart watch and more of a fitness tracker

[pure garnet]

a day, and the wrist gesture just didn’t work at all reliably

[fervent chasm]

I preemptively bought an Apple Watch that I never wear, idk what to use it for

[pure garnet]

so i went from an s22 ultra to a used 12 pro max to use my apple watch again and haven’t been off ios since

[fervent chasm]

If I need the time, my phone is always on me
Same with calling

[pure garnet]

mine is just notifications + gps displays there if i need it since i don’t have carplay

[vivid kiln]

My goal is to pull my phone out as little as humanly possible

[pure garnet]

which is why i still use a series 4 and haven’t replaced it

[fervent chasm]

Gotta get one of those Chinese CarPlay displays like I have

[pure garnet]

no need to yet

[fervent chasm]

Have you tried any of the glasses that kinda do the phone stuff?

With the displays and whatnot

I don’t mean meta glasses, I’ve seen some way thinner ones, I don’t remember the brand names

[vivid kiln]

That would be far worse. The goal is to minimize distraction by any means necessary. Strapping a smartphone to my face would do the opposite.

There's a reason I have all notifications disabled and almost no apps installed

[floral spear]

There's 330$ OLEDs now I guess

[fervent chasm]

Might sound like a dumb question but does that include calls being silenced?

[vivid kiln]

Calls go through until 6:00pm, and at that point, only my wife's calls go through

[fervent chasm]

That’s actually cool

I gotta troubleshoot this issue with my old pc, it boot loops randomly

Maybe just a bad PSU

[pale grove]

you mean raising your wrist to wake the screen?

[green marsh]

@topaz veldt i love LLMs for crazy things like finding dumb records in HA database. Literally told it "here is the database, for this sensor i have few records i hate (they are messing up the charts), find them and tell me how to fix them". And after 5 minutes (well, 1 second less) it came back with exact SQL sequence i need to run against the Sqlite database to find and fix those records 🙂

(would have cost me $0.66 via claude API pricing)

[green marsh]

the point was that memory bandwidth is mostly useless for pretty much all use cases on Neo, only current task which would benefit from memory bandwidth it is LLM. So it having higher memory bandwidth is a performance stat which makes it technically superior to "DDR5", but actually makes no difference because nothing can use it on the system. Btw with 12GB memory on the next Neo, one might run something like Gemma4 E4B /s

[turbid locust]

Ah. I see.

I misread as you saying “it can’t run local LLM so it’s useless”

[green marsh]

btw the really sad part is when you look back at 2015 mainstream tech. GTX960 memory bandwidth is a sad 112.2GB/s. We are passing that with DDR5-8000 dual channel (128GB/s)

[minor herald]

9800x3d with ddr5 8000 only gets like 64GB/s

[green marsh]

due FCLK divider ?

[minor herald]

fclk is 32byte/clock per link on zen5 some cpus have 2 links to 1 chiplet/2 chiplets/the cpus like 395+ is faster fclk link

[livid flame]

Talk about DDR5 8000mts gets me going in the morning

[minor herald]

lol

[minor herald]

btw even if you have cpu that has 2 fclk links offen around 100GB/s is limit

[merry stirrup]

what about 10000 MT/s

[green marsh]

still, too close to the GTX960 mem bandwidth is what i mean. desktop memory getting close to midrange GPU from 10 years ago

[low sorrel]

@edgy laurel it's been like 4 months and I still can't get over how good mini led looks sometimes

Everytime there's a sun flare or something I can't help but smile when I have to squint

[brisk jolt]

i think i should get on ACE today

[low sorrel]

Is ACE any good?

Also what shifter are you buying

[spiral quarry]

It's improved

[brisk jolt]

yeah it feels so good

[spiral quarry]

I still gotta work out the keybinds

[brisk jolt]

i think i can feel every bump in the road even tho im only on a r3

[low sorrel]

What's the point of wheelbase with like 60nm

Like don't you just break your wrist past a point

[livid flame]

I am* blushing now, you’re going to make me pinnacle. Stop it Floppa

[low sorrel]

Also I'm wondering

If you get intentionally crashed

And you break your wrist can you sue?

[brisk jolt]

i talk alotta shit about jerry but realistically if I also joined his lobby in actual races I’d be getting 86 missed calls from mercedes asking me to be the 2nd seat

[brisk jolt]

you potentially can

[brisk jolt]

prob turtlebeach bcs its nicer looking and has more features albeit the worse build

[spiral quarry]

Ohhh you can configure it to be sequential.

got me interested lol

[dense oracle]

Anyone know if they’re still producing the 5080 Solid OC, or how limited they were?

[minor herald]

5080 are still being made

[dense oracle]

5080 Solid OC from Zotac?

[minor herald]

zotack dose not list on there site

[turbid locust]

Just made like, the best scrambled eggs I’ve ever made

fkin delicious

[dense oracle]

wdym

[minor herald]

its not listed as EOL or in prodution

[dense oracle]

yeah I couldn’t find that they ended production but they just haven’t been in stock for like 3 months now so I was curious if someone maybe knew some cool insider info

[turbid locust]

Any specific reason you need that exact model?

[minor herald]

dose not realy matter if its being made if its not in stock or if its not good price

[dense oracle]

its not much more expensive usually than the Solid Core OC or SFF but has way better cooling due to the bigger build

[turbid locust]

Ah. Yeah I would just look for a comparable model from what’s available

[dense oracle]

I have no stress in buying it, would like to wait since I love the look and it’ll fit to the gold black theme I’m building

Worst case I’ll get a Astral in a few months but that’s kinda overkill lol

[turbid locust]

Idk how I manage to forget people care about what their internals look like every single day lol

[dense oracle]

I mean if I’m building a PC for 3-4k I want it to be sexy xd

It’s gonna be in the P90 Thermaltake corner case and it’s a nice open display case

[turbid locust]

yeah my case doesn’t have a window or glass side panel so lol

[dense oracle]

yeah I used to run the simple but solid BeQuiet cases with no window but now I want a PC for my office and it’s def gotta look good lmaoo

[turbid locust]

I’m in a Lian Li A3 with the wood front. Looks plenty pretty for me

[late atlas]

It is a nice case yeah, I'm just wondering how are you going to fill it up

[turbid locust]

My AIO has RGB but I didn’t plug it in

[late atlas]

Cause that case is usually made for custom water loops and cooling, but of course you can do it without that. I think it'll be just a bit odd as with custom water cooling you can take up all the space with reservoirs, pumps and tubes but without it might look a bit empty

[turbid locust]

I kinda want to swap to a fractal mood but my gpu is too fat

[dense oracle]

The CPU will be water cooled with a 480 AIO in the middle or well corner there’s gonna be the pump and Resivore? Not sure how it’s spelled and the GPU will be vertical, then it should fill out nicely,

Gonna get gold plated leaves for decor with some other decor stuff but yeah

Thought about water cooling both CPU and GPU but the case can only hold one AIO or well not AIO but the custom loop AIO thing, don’t know the proper names in English

My worry with that is tho once I OC the temps won’t run better than stock so that’s why I also want the 3,5 slot GPU xd

[late atlas]

I get what you mean, yeah I think it should be fine, just letting you know as it is a big case

[dense oracle]

Yeah I know I’ve got the case already kinda buying slowly as I find my things in stock

[late atlas]

Yeah makes sense

[brisk jolt]

i need my a3 glazer in tc2 always

[turbid locust]

[dense oracle]

Just can’t find a nice mobo that had gold in it from “stock”

[turbid locust]

I’m trying to figure out if my current parts would fit in an Ncase M2

Their documentation isn’t great

[late atlas]

What CPU are you using

[dense oracle]

14900KS

[late atlas]

Wow