tech-chat-2

[turbid locust]

valid

[low sorrel]

Ah ya speeding

[topaz veldt]

well not necessarily speeding

[brisk jolt]

something jerry doesnt excel at

[topaz veldt]

its only speeding if you have traction

[turbid locust]

also I decided I’m not buying a 5060Ti or 3090 for AI shit

[topaz veldt]

twin 5090s?

[turbid locust]

I will be buying two 2080Ti 22GBs

[brittle trellis]

Never break the law while breaking the law, always signal

[turbid locust]

Never commit misdemeanors while committing felonies

[pure garnet]

ennui has a new champion

[turbid locust]

Ennui only has 1 2080Ti. I inquired

[hoary hatch]

I thought eunni had 4 at one point

[turbid locust]

but yeah you can get two 2080Ti 22GB from China for less than the price of 1 5070Ti

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-china-gif-284632875632280687

[turbid locust]

yes

[pure garnet]

macs gonna end up on nyarch with hyperland after buying up all this compute

[young void]

Huh, I mean i get it kinda lol

[green marsh]

let's hope they won't scam you, but otherwise a fine idea

[young void]

I wonder if its going to be fully functional

Would be kinda neats

Some things when you add more ram get buggy

[turbid locust]

They’ve been making 22GB 2080Ti’s for awhile

[topaz veldt]

hmmm

[young void]

43 days is good

[topaz veldt]

[young void]

Watcha thinking? Changing colors?

I dont linux much xD

[young void]

I saw that and the ram but what are you doing with it?

[pure garnet]

that’s probably enough to handle some light jellyfin transcoding

[topaz veldt]

playing RDR2

[young void]

Silly goose

[topaz veldt]

some GPUs are arriving

[young void]

Heck yeahhh, thats alotta weight xD damnnnnn

If all gpu... frig there goes the next few days of snails world

Making a super cluster/guess can be regular?

[hoary hatch]

Guys

[topaz veldt]

Its part of my crazy re-arch project

[hoary hatch]

Why does HR think a week is 6 days

[topaz veldt]

I still need like $20M worth of electricity upgrades installed

[steel stream]

uh oh

[young void]

Gonna be legen wait for it.... Dary!!

https://tenor.com/view/phone-five-high-howimetyourmother-gif-5434951

[hoary hatch]

Spring into fitness challenge: 11x 6 day weeks 💀

[turbid locust]

Has anyone ever had a good experience with HR

[steel stream]

jesus

[topaz veldt]

@green marsh eatin'

[hoary hatch]

Technically idk if it's HR who is hosting this thing but like who the fuck decides a week is 6 days

[turbid locust]

Submitted for an employees termination through the application they ask us to use and then radio silence for 4 days. Nothing happened until I called and asked for an update

[topaz veldt]

reverse intake SFF sounds great

until you're sitting in front of it doing LLM shit

[shell void]

the goat is on sale for $180

[frank zealot]

nice

[turbid locust]

I saw that yesterday. Almost considered jumping on it.

But like… I don’t really need it

[shell void]

it's so cute tho

[frank zealot]

SFX 1KW PSU is pretty awesome

[cosmic gazelle]

why get that when you could get this

far more effective at starting a fire

for 1/5 the cost

[civic reef]

POS AIO = Piece Of Shit All In One ❤️

[turbid locust]

I already have a 1300W unit for benching (about to be put in my server), RM1000e in the daily, and a EVGA 750W unit currently in my server that I will swap to the bench.

[pure garnet]

i was gonna impulse buy a msi 750w for $55 but it went up to $95 before i did

[nova patrol]

just go to the woods for free

[young void]

I mytve snagged a 2nd meg 1300w plati. Theres still a handful for 155 like new

I have no self control

[civic reef]

Everyday I think of new PC upgrades or gadgets to get but then I remember I became a laptop baller

[frank zealot]

where? that's nuts

[civic reef]

The weakness of my fur disgusts me

[civic reef]

Aren't those 2-300 USD?????

[frank zealot]

https://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9b-17-701-025
This ain't bad

[young void]

Usually 350 yuss

[young void]

I gotchu

[topaz veldt]

@green marsh she's floundering

[young void]

https://a.co/d/0beRPj0f

[topaz veldt]

Hm nice to have around as a spare

[frank zealot]

use like new for 155 is crazy

[green marsh]

mine compacts context all the time, because 200k context fills up so fast with 2x 5070 Ti

[young void]

After the first arrived they got more and had to send it

[topaz veldt]

what does that look like then

[green marsh]

it compacts every few minutes

[topaz veldt]

I don't see any clear indication of it doing that

but also I am not staring at the lm studio dev logs

[green marsh]

you only see it in claude code. once in a while it will do "compacting conversation"

[topaz veldt]

ah have not seen that yet

this is qwen3.5-27B 100k

have you seen you can customize the status line w/ % of context

[young void]

Mission super computer with your host snail

[green marsh]

npx ccstatusline

[young void]

Should do a log or demos

[green marsh]

also how do you not hit context window limits with 100k context. I use same model with 200k context (Q8_0 K/V cache quantization).

[topaz veldt]

🤷‍♂️

[green marsh]

https://github.com/sirmalloc/ccstatusline

[topaz veldt]

This is addictive

I might have to make a managerial call and move my lab box to my house rack lol

[merry stirrup]

i need more memory

[topaz veldt]

same

[young void]

Hard drives sold

[green marsh]

do you use this for software development ?

[topaz veldt]

sorta

I build things in my lab without infosec oversight and annoyance

and then I bundle them up and move it to work lab

[green marsh]

ok, then two things:

1. i recommend installing https://github.com/addyosmani/agent-skills skills. Pretty much you install those skills, then start your task with /using-agent-skills some description of what you want it to do. It automatically selects the other right commands, which then translate to specific skills, which change the behavior of the coding agent, so for example it asks you question in idea refining phase, plans out the ideas to tasks etc
2. if you want the coding agent to be able to do web searches (claude code connected to local model can't do that through official web search tool), then https://github.com/nickclyde/duckduckgo-mcp-server

[topaz veldt]

for 2) it seems to have some ability as it prompted and did shit

[green marsh]

it never did search anything for me, and AFAIK the web search tool is running on Anthropic servers, so unless you got a claude code sub, it won't do stuff. At least to my knowledge

[fervent chasm]

thats how i feel when i see how much im using

i need 256

too close to using all of it

[merry stirrup]

yeah except i’m not larping and just want more ram

[fervent chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/mariolord-mariolord14-mario-lord-mario-lord-gif-12993108603153607612

larp larp sahur

[steel stream]

Floppa is TC2's biggest larper

[gloomy vault]

i just got 2*32gb of ram for $350

but its 4800 so

[merry stirrup]

same

[merry stirrup]

is it hynix

[steel stream]

damn you got to work with a lightning??

that's dope AF

[merry stirrup]

yur

we have 5 or sumn

[steel stream]

that must have been awesome

[gloomy vault]

no clue could prolly be micron a die

its not a fast kit

[merry stirrup]

just read the ic’s

[gloomy vault]

its just micron a die

5600mhz shit timings at 1.45v

[merry stirrup]

8tb g5 drive cray

[devout ridge]

They're using a pneumatic hammer to bury fiber right outside my house, and i must say, it is not pleasant

[green marsh]

any RAM is better than no RAM

[devout ridge]

2x512 ddr2 good for you?

[merry stirrup]

i mean i use cdie in my server, also doesn’t micron reverse scale? don’t use 1.45

[green marsh]

if i needed DDR2 and had none, sure

[merry stirrup]

512GB D2 dimms

that’s gotta be like 400w/stick

[devout ridge]

512MB*

[merry stirrup]

this is true you didn’t specify a unit

i get fiber on the 28th i’m so hyped

[devout ridge]

i'm literally watching them bury the fiber to the junction box outside my house right now

[merry stirrup]

nuhuh

i get 3gbit up down for 70 lifetime hurray

[devout ridge]

pricing is 1 gigabit for 65usd/month for me

[merry stirrup]

loser

[frank zealot]

Venture Capitalists are.... something

[pure garnet]

flarpa

[frank zealot]

Bedframes are not expensive, and making your bed more comfortable is not a bad thing.

[devout ridge]

no bedframe is a great way to get mold in your mattress

[frank zealot]

like, for realz.

[devout ridge]

idk why people try to struggle max so much

like it's not a bad thing to invest some money to have an actually comfortable life

[frank zealot]

100%

Nobody's telling you to buy frilly duvet covers and decorative pillows

But like... make your bed NOT suck, and you'll be happier every fuckin' day

[devout ridge]

but also, if you want to buy frilly duvet covers and decorative pillows, that's your prerogative

[frank zealot]

absolutely, if that's your thing, do it up.

[pure garnet]

i did no bed frame for like a week when mine broke and i liked the height so now i just have a shorter bed frame and no box spring

[devout ridge]

How dare people spend their own money how they see fit, the horror!

[pure garnet]

at the height it’s at now the dogs can jump up to sleep when they want so that’s ideal

[devout ridge]

my bed is like 34in tall

[young void]

I think i bent the middle feet in mine lol. Need to replace it soon

[frank zealot]

mine's around there, too yeah

[pure garnet]

mine is about 24

[young void]

Getting alittle rickity

[frank zealot]

being able to just sit on the edge of the bed comfortably is nice

[merry stirrup]

i gotta change my frame like once a week dawg

[pure garnet]

you break your bed frame once a week?

you may wanna hit up a planet fitness gang

[merry stirrup]

nah it’s just me and your mother

[frank zealot]

weird utterly random question:

Has anyone ever heard the term "goynking" and knows what it means?

I just saw the word for the first time, and seem to be one of many people who have never heard it before

[tardy ingot]

how do you even break a bed frame

[cosmic gazelle]

apparently the i7-4940mx is the most powerful socketed laptop cpu (excluding mobile desktop bullshit) and I want to find a platform that will actually be able to power one now

[green marsh]

ah yes, because people buy bedframes every month or two, and you can't use the one you bought 10 years ago

[frank zealot]

(Before you check: It's not on urbandictionary)

[frank zealot]

*thinks about the one on my bed that my parents bought me in 2003 *

[tardy ingot]

idk im assuming it has to do with the term goy just looking at it

[frank zealot]

that would be way too logical, because internet.

[tardy ingot]

yes but racism is very prevelant

[frank zealot]

I'm fully aware of that, unfortunately

[wraith steeple]

UT2004 VC flashbacks

[frank zealot]

I remember LAN gaming with the original UT on 100mbps
that was the shizzle

Quake 4 Arena, UT, Tribes, C&C:RA, Starcraft

[tardy ingot]

does anyone now the answer to this: hey guys if i wanted to ask/speak about home servers what would the best channel to do that in be

[frank zealot]

general server chat's probably here.
If asking for something specific it may be different

[green marsh]

mobile desktop ? you didn't rule out mobile workstation and mobile server category then /s

[tardy ingot]

well i am wanting to build my own home server for the first time and i am trying to see if theres a good place to get advice on setups parts etc

[frank zealot]

(I'm actually printing out a 3U 10" rack currently. I should print the last of the parts tomorrow? (I think)

[warm gate]

we get it, you're rich.

[pure garnet]

t540p?

[devout ridge]

than man bought a jet, he's gonna milk it for every dollar he can

[frank zealot]

Gonna depend on what you're looking to get, a "home server" can be any number of things and need any number of different levels of hardware

[hoary hatch]

Corporate money

[devout ridge]

a "home server" includes just as many, actually more things than just saying "computer"

[cosmic gazelle]

precision m4800 actually seems like a better deal, it’s about the same price and comes with a dgpu

and it natively supports the 4940mx

[devout ridge]

There are literally thoussands of usecases and relevant specs for each

[pure garnet]

won’t the dgpu suck up power budget though

[tardy ingot]

well i dont want just a baby server i actually wanna build what i can by engineering parts myself obviously not the cpu ram motherboard or drives but all the other parts, but i plan on using it for a lot of things such as hosting game servers, discord bots, and running my own fake websites so i can have fun learning cyber security

[cosmic gazelle]

is that how that works? i was more so saying that some laptop vrms just won’t supply the power because it’s hard capped

[frank zealot]

Game Server: ezpz
discord bots: annoying but not hard
hosting websites: do not fuckin' bother

[merry stirrup]

diy power supply let’s go

[tardy ingot]

well not like a public website but one i can connect to lan wise

[pure garnet]

well a laptop has say a ~105w brick, if the gpu uses 40w

[tardy ingot]

no lol i wish but i do go to college next year im doing MechE

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah the cpu is 57w so might still be doable

[frank zealot]

what's your budget to build

[merry stirrup]

so what do you even achieve to engineer here then

there is nothing to engineer but the parts you said unless you need oddly specific to you custom things which if so, cool

[tardy ingot]

well thats what i was trying to figure out to begin with cuz besides business servers costing over 50 grand i dont have a lot of knowledge here but would be nice if it doesnt go over 5 grand

[frank zealot]

5 grand for a home server? TF?

[tardy ingot]

well like actually physical parts of the server rack such as the case etc

[cosmic gazelle]

i hear that the x series mobile cpus benefit greatly from undervolting in throttlestop so that could be interesting

[tardy ingot]

well over time not spending it all at once, i would get parts over time

[devout ridge]

you got a CNC and/or laser cutter?

[frank zealot]

What are you looking to spend up front

[cosmic gazelle]

@pure garnet never mind not a problem lmao

[tardy ingot]

no but i do have a 3d printer which i will use to prototype then send off the actual models to be printed by companies that have those machines but i have a friend who might let me pay him to cnc it

[frank zealot]

(we're currently looking to buy a new server at work, and said and done for hardware/windows licenses we're probably looking at 75-80K USD for one fuckin' box)

[tardy ingot]

uhm thats the issue i have no idea what a cost is for these

[devout ridge]

you have to decide your budget first

you can make a server for 30usd, and 30m usd

[tardy ingot]

well as i said earlier im ok within the 5k usd range

[frank zealot]

you need to set yourself a scope for what you want to do up front.
You've got lots of dreams and no actual plans.

Until you know what your scope and budget are, you have nearly infinite options, but no way to narrow it down

[pure garnet]

you gotta find a use case first

[tardy ingot]

i do have a use case

[tardy ingot]

well my max is 5k i would rather spend somewhere in the 2-3k range but 5k is my hard limit

[devout ridge]

Your use case was "host game servers" then generically "host a website"

[frank zealot]

Are you looking to build in a tower?
in a 19" Rack?
in a 10" rack?
others?

[devout ridge]

you can host a game server on an old optiplex for like 200usd

[green marsh]

the point is - if you just want to self host some apps, even a basic office PC rebranded as a "server" will do the job. If you want server grade hardware, 100TB+ storage, AI LLM box, then sure, budget skyrockets. So figure out the real scope of what you want to run, and that will define the hardware requirements

[tardy ingot]

im looking to build a tower that i will make myself but able to later when i need to expand the ability to put in more servers

[wise bear]

you're overcomplicating something you have no idea about lmao

[devout ridge]

what, you can't put in more servers into a single tower lol

[frank zealot]

what does that actually mean

[brave panther]

virtualisation

[devout ridge]

I believe by "tower" you mean a rack, in which case do you want a 19" or a 10"

[tardy ingot]

well hmm probably 10"

so it doesnt take up a bunch of space

[frank zealot]

that's not a tower >.<

[brave panther]

10" is not really for compute

[devout ridge]

imma keep it a buck, you're gonna be pretty limited by what you can do then

[frank zealot]

it 1000% can be

[pure garnet]

my server is a thinkcenter tiny

[tardy ingot]

where is a good place to research more info abt this from what ive found on google its been vague

[devout ridge]

youtube

watch lots and lots of youtube videos

[pure garnet]

until you actually need rack mount stuff just buy an older optipex and rock that tbh

[tardy ingot]

i wouldnt mind a 19" idc abt size as long as it can fit in a room height wise and not taking up a giant space

[tardy ingot]

any specific creators that dive deep in info abt it?

[wise bear]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man2-spider-man-j-jonah-jameson-tobey-maguire-peter-parker-gif-26416399

[devout ridge]

you could probably pull off something like this for about 5kusd

[pure garnet]

that’s a lot of usb ports

[devout ridge]

LTT, L1T, supermicro, etc

[devout ridge]

there is 7 USB ports in that image

[tardy ingot]

ok thanks ill come back once ive gotten more info, quick question what are the general price ranges and what is usually expected of servers in those ranges?

[devout ridge]

30usd, to 30m usd

[pure garnet]

also if you’re buying old rack stuff check the power draw

[devout ridge]

Yeah, old servers suck back power like no other

[frank zealot]

r/homelab on reddit
L1 Techs

plenty of places dive into homelab stuff

[steel stream]

too many

[devout ridge]

that rack is a 700w continous load with half the machines idling

[pure garnet]

you do not need a 300w enterprise 10gb switch for 4 devices

[steel stream]

:(

[pure garnet]

what’s the silver thing in the middle iroh

[brave panther]

jbod

[pure garnet]

jordan’s big ole door

[devout ridge]

from top to bottom of "silver things", Patch panel, 10g switch, 2u blanking panel cause the server is hot rod rn, then a 24 bay JBOD

[frank zealot]

I'm 100% putting together a 10" rack to do proxmox and other things in it.
2 boxes with i7 12700T + 32GB RAM
2x Ras Pi 5's
etc

[pure garnet]

my 7700t should be here wednesday

[green marsh]

aliexpress weird tech strikes again

[nova patrol]

4 core

[wise bear]

cute tbh

[steel stream]

it's a gimmick but I like it

[green marsh]

it is also power button

[merry stirrup]

yo that’s fire tho

[merry stirrup]

my proxmox is silly for how much it does i gotta upgrade it some

10700
64GB
A750
12TB HDD
1.25TB SSD (some is cache)

[pure garnet]

~30% more multi

[merry stirrup]

i want more ram

64 simply isn’t enough, my server lives day to day at 95%

[pure garnet]

i need you to buy the ocf first

so i can get rid of the box in my garage

[merry stirrup]

i am man please don’t beat me

[frank zealot]

I've got two of these:

[merry stirrup]

i have big pc

i’m gonna move it all to a node something or other with the 12900KS and mpower

it’s like a node 804, matx fractal nas case

[wraith steeple]

Yesyes. Internet cafes in Damascus in the early 2000s had games like UT, Need for Speed III, HS, and Porsche Unleashed, and even Quake that were pirated on PCs imported from Russia and other ex-Soviet countries. And consoles were ehhhhh.... They were there but super rare (mostly you saw either Sony PlayStation or Sega gaming consoles) as PCs were way more common

You had to know someone that's part of the black market to entertain the idea of owning a console during that time

Mostly PlayStation 1 and 2s was there mostly because it was fairly easy to mod the chip to be able to play games that were burned onto discs that were pirated or bootleged

[merry stirrup]

i need hella drives rather than compute

[topaz veldt]

I am pumped to get a MBP for work so that the screen is brighter and I can work outside

I took my M4 outside right now in direct sunlight and its usable

[young void]

El gpu brick arrived xD

[merry stirrup]

5090?

[young void]

If i can get through all this tape that is

[tardy ingot]

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X
ASUS ProArt X670E-Creator WiFi
128GB DDR5 (4x32GB)
Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
Corsair RM1000x
Noctua NH-D15

can ai be trusted it said this would be a good 3k server

[merry stirrup]

vram mine

put it on my 70ti

[young void]

I feel its alittle generous on the ram, just alittle biased

🤏

[merry stirrup]

i would not

[young void]

Valid perspective of an ai fs

[hollow wagon]

ai is useless for build lists, its never well dated, no point for lists in AI, just for how to build

[merry stirrup]

you should do more than ai research on this topic. you’re spending thousands of dollars

[shell void]

u goin up to 128GB?

[merry stirrup]

likely, or like, 96

[shell void]

i think you need 2x128GB CQDIMMs on a 270K

[tardy ingot]

no i understand i was just trying to find a starting point bc i have no knowledge in this area i was just seeing what u guys thought of the list to know whether or not ai could give actual good advice

[merry stirrup]

12900KS on something d4/5 will be ok

[shell void]

this is true information

[merry stirrup]

do other research than with ai, that’s all im saying bro

[pure garnet]

genuinely dude just buy an optiplex and toss linux on it

then when you have real compute demands upgrade

[tardy ingot]

no ik that im just starting to do research im not close to buying anything yet

[pure garnet]

don’t waste 3k just to build a server

[steel stream]

optiplexes are beneath me.

[pure garnet]

an optiplex probably has a better bios than your asrock board does champ

[tardy ingot]

well i plan to do my side projects on it meaning cad, blender, scripts, apps stuff like that im currently in the process of building a custom hotas

[steel stream]

four pronged eating utensil

[pure garnet]

asus will label a feature poorly, asrock just won't add the feature

[steel stream]

my homelab started with HP Z440

[merry stirrup]

so what you really need is a workstation

[tardy ingot]

yes

[merry stirrup]

and not really a server at all

because you intend to actually physically use the machine

[steel stream]

jedec warrior right here

[tardy ingot]

well i want to be able to work whether im at home or somewhere else

[steel stream]

just let me disable RGB and we are good

[merry stirrup]

my server is ram overclocked

[tardy ingot]

i already have a good pc

[merry stirrup]

3200 Cdie with tight timings

[steel stream]

my name is not floppa so that isn't happening

[frank zealot]

Here's the thing, you need to sit down and decide what you want, and how important it is to you.

What you're describing currently not sounding like something that'd be worth a 3grand investment

[steel stream]

do you guys think the outcome of this article is good or bad

[frank zealot]

assuming it's not an excessive volume of PB?
Good things, because PB is very healthy overall

[young void]

So far so good

[fervent chasm]

good

[scarlet arch]

smoll gpu

[pallid marsh]

What kind of server nhd15 out dated and 4 sticks on am5 Ryzen isn't Normally great

[tardy ingot]

well its important to me its not a NEED its more of a WANT, but i have a list of things i want to use it for im just trying to find what the actual reasonable range is to have a good server thats not overpriced but also not just a penny scraping build either if that makes sense and idk what brands are good for servers etc

[fervent chasm]

i saw an article of a doctor who ate junk food everyday, and he turned out healthier and lost weight it all depends on calorie intake and to make sure you get all the right vitamins and minerals and whatnot

[frank zealot]

Now if someone goes off and eats a pound of peanut butter a day for a month?
Well, nothing good will come from that

[frank zealot]

stop thinking of buying a server.
You're not, unless you're going to sink in way more than you are.

You're buying a computer and just doing "server like" activities on it.

[steel stream]

i currently eat peanut butter everyday

[tardy ingot]

well 1, a work station, but also 2 to be able to work on even when im not at home but have for example my laptop with me, and 3 to host things

[pallid marsh]

Creamy or chunky

[fervent chasm]

isnt a server just a computer

[karmic folio]

peanut butter tastes mid

[fervent chasm]

gotta stop thinking of servers and computers like that

[tardy ingot]

i am trying to but i dont think you understand when i say i have really no idea of where to start

[fervent chasm]

just find a computer that suits your needs

[frank zealot]

a proper server has features that no home PC ever had, and makes a difference

[pallid marsh]

Moderators ban this devil

[karmic folio]

[fervent chasm]

like what, iDRAC?

[devout ridge]

i love the taste of peanut butter, but it doesn't like me back (i have a peanut allergy)

[frank zealot]

Step 1: Go to youtube and look up:
Level1Techs
Jeff Geerling
Look at their homelab related videos

[steel stream]

creamy

[tardy ingot]

ok i will be back time to go watch some youtube

[frank zealot]

iDRAC/iLO etc. is one feature.
Redundant power is another
Expansion levels that home PCs don't support

[pallid marsh]

What did you do for God to punish you this harshly?

[fervent chasm]

hold on, what is desktop for you? and does HEDT count?

[frank zealot]

HEDT is dead and has been for years

[fervent chasm]

isnt a threadripper HEDT?

[pallid marsh]

Titan cards and hedt died

[frank zealot]

not since they made entry into threadripper a 4K+ investment

[fervent chasm]

or is workstation what was built off of HEDT

[devout ridge]

i am actually allergic to all nuts, and dairy

[pallid marsh]

Based

[devout ridge]

not sure what i did, but god scorns me

[frank zealot]

Did you see the pneumatic epi-pen cannon that Emily the Engineer made?

[pallid marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-faint-good-heavens-gif-15654498

[devout ridge]

Yes, but thankfully i'm not anaphylactic

[karmic folio]

[fervent chasm]

tbf there are redundant ATX psus

[merry stirrup]

basically this

[fervent chasm]

but yah expansion levels much less, not enough lanes

[frank zealot]

yeah, but that's a very niche item, and they're not beefy enough to run high-end hardware

you don't get a redundant ATX PSU that's 1300W that can run 2 GPUs

[steel stream]

I throw it into smoothies so needs creamy, but creamy is better regardless

[pallid marsh]

Just get a mobo compatible with ECC ram then you can call it a "server"

[steel stream]

is life even worth living

[young void]

Well heres to hoping all looks good

Sag bracket and boot

[frank zealot]

but yeah, now there are 3 tiers of computers:

Consumer grade (10$-5K USD range)

Workstation grade: (Good luck getting into that for less than 8K)

Server Grade: Sky's the fuckin' limit here boyos

[pallid marsh]

Good idea getting photo evidence of a fresh clean power connector now you will have a good before and after photos if it ever melts

[pallid marsh]

Half the budget for workstation grade is ram and SSD

[scarlet arch]

I'm a bit slow, is that a 5090 or I'm tripping?

[frank zealot]

getting an entry xeon/threadripper and board is a several thousand dollar starting point, too.

They just didn't expect RAM to be another 2+ Grand on top of it (unless you were RAMMAXXING)

[pallid marsh]

I lied just ram

[frank zealot]

now 256GB RAM (which is not unreasonable in a workstation) can easily run you more money than anything's worth

[frank zealot]

is that even ECC?

[pallid marsh]

Yes

Non ECC is $1700

For 2x64

[frank zealot]

so yeah, today? a workstation with a decent CPU, 256GB RAM, ONE GPU, and reasonable storage

Could easily be a 20 grand investment to start

[shell void]

WE all WILL be buying the Intel Core Ultra 495DX

[pallid marsh]

512gb of ddr5 ECC 8x64 is $19.8k

[karmic folio]

only

[pallid marsh]

What a time to be alive

[pure garnet]

radeon :/

[merry stirrup]

looks cool tho

[pallid marsh]

A new car is $600 more

[scarlet arch]

So, what's the cost of this thing...

[merry stirrup]

lots

[steel stream]

can you please put electrical tape over the radeon logos

[steel stream]

ooo snow mode

[wraith steeple]

[pallid marsh]

I think snow mode catches the engine on fire to melt the snow on the windshield

[steel stream]

HAMMOND!!

[merry stirrup]

absolutely

[steel stream]

thank you

[wraith steeple]

Linus is with high end tech is like how Hammond is with expensive sports cars

[steel stream]

lots of fatal crashes?

[wraith steeple]

[steel stream]

it's crazy how many crashes Hammond got into, and survived

one lucky dude

[scarlet arch]

I can only imagine 😭

[merry stirrup]

probably like 10K

[nova patrol]

car lots

[scarlet arch]

oh
My own rig is like... ||500$||

[turbid locust]

Started helping my coworker that typically does our recruiting and whatnot right

Some of these resumes on these applications bro lmfao

what do you mean your professional summary is just “#readytowork”

[steel stream]

professional crack smoker

[turbid locust]

[steel stream]

hire that person immediately

[turbid locust]

DEADASS

[steel stream]

what is a professional summary

i have no idea what that is

is your resume already not just a "professional summary"?

[scarlet arch]

I mean, he seems like he has determination

[turbid locust]

It’s like a short 1-2 sentence thing you put at the top of your resume that describes you as a professional

[steel stream]

oh that thing

I don't think I even have one

engineers don't need that

but having that be #readytowork is wild

[scarlet arch]

Uhh, just curious about y'all opinion, check the battlestations...

[steel stream]

it's a computer for sure

[frank zealot]

it's definitely a computer

What are you asking for an opinion on? It's a 12ish year old CPU/Board with a somewhat newer gpu.

It is exactly what it is

[steel stream]

@turbid locust think I can put my professional summary as "expert TV buyer?"

I saw that Grace @low sorrel

[low sorrel]

Find my is a lie

[steel stream]

I know your name is grace

[scarlet arch]

"Your opinion" → "How shit is it"

🙂

[steel stream]

i've seen a lot worse

it's just a computer

[frank zealot]

it's a 12ish year old xeon, on DDR3 with a 6 year old low/mid tier gpu
I mean, what do you want

[scarlet arch]

ok

[scarlet arch]

Yea me too, my previous rig for example

[low sorrel]

You think I should search from my home to where I am or from where I am to my home

[steel stream]

probably from where you are to your house

grace

[low sorrel]

I also don't remember the exact route I took

[analog scroll]

interesting looking cooler

swag

[scarlet arch]

Yeah, one of the plastic thingies on the fan is glued

It can break off if I wiggle it (Didn't test, but feels like that for sure)

[dapper anvil]

Is xg27aqwmg a good monitor? I’ve been wanting to upgrade from ips to Oled and I’m searching for the best 1440 Oled monitor, I didn’t like how none tandem oleds look in bright rooms (the purple haze) and that’s why I’ve been looking at the tandem (plus it looks better and brighter) but I’ve seen a lot of people saying it has really bad vertical banding so I don’t know what to choose I would appreciate any recommendations

[steel stream]

it'll be good

if you get banding you can just RMA I think

[young void]

Getting code 99 tried reseating the slot and cables , did get d6 once or twice. Cleared cmos a few times. Fans aren't spinning except for half an initial spin

[low sorrel]

@steel stream so OLEDs get the brightness neutered to like 300 nits at a 100% window because of heat right?

Why don't they just strap a fan on it

[merry stirrup]

mines like 3000 idk

[cosmic gazelle]

what case is this? certainly something lian li?

[wraith steeple]

Antec Flux Pro

[young void]

217 ye

[merry stirrup]

an amount of money

[wraith steeple]

Oh damn NVM

[cosmic gazelle]

i love my 207

best case i’ve ever built in

so damn user friendly

and those gpu fans are so effective i didn’t believe it

reduced my gpu temps by 20c compared to my old case

[pure garnet]

99 should be gpu initialized so check your cables

[young void]

Myte be my monitor i plugged into hdmi and it grabbed right away

Gonna update drivers then try display again

Or maybe my cable i did try another port on the gpu but not the monitor little things, had me nervous for a sec

[brave panther]

i know whats wrong with it
it aint got no gas in it

[scarlet arch]

I'm kinda moneyless

[brave panther]

unplug all IO from it, including aio usb

[merry stirrup]

same

[scarlet arch]

Dap me up

[frank zealot]

I can't wait for Core Ultra 265T or 285T based tinies end up being "cheap" in the refurb cycle

35w chip w 8P/12E cores
and an integrated NPU, all with ARC Graphics Cores

[gloomy vault]

yea its a horrible kit

[pure garnet]

oh it's 112w

[gloomy vault]

but 64gb of ddr5 for $350 is still

a really good deal

[pure garnet]

still pretty good for 20t

[frank zealot]

the coolers in the tinies sure as shit can't dissipate 112w

it'll be sub-50w most of the time

a cooler like that ain't dissipating 100w of anything

[young void]

Drivers updated and display port works now wheeww lol also reseated into the monitor just incase. And monitor update released very groovy

[pure garnet]

im impressed that the cooler design hasn't changed since my kabylake cpu

[frank zealot]

the boxes can't really get bigger, so that's probably the most efficient cooler for the 1/2" height they have

[placid blaze]

all mini pc enclosures must accommodate a peerless assassin 120

[pure garnet]

that's straight up bigger than the pc

[frank zealot]

The design hasn't really changed since since (at least) Skylake

[pure garnet]

this is what hosts my jellyfin

[frank zealot]

the newer ones hold 2 NVME drives instead of 1 lol

[pure garnet]

i get 1 nvme 1 sata which is decent

[placid blaze]

This is what hosts my plex and nothing else

[topaz veldt]

lookin crusty

[placid blaze]

very crusty yeah

should probably dust it

[steel stream]

yeah they have heat sinks and stuff, fans are not liked cause of noise, but I am sure there are other reasons, I would bet trying to get all 8 million nits to do 2000 nits would be some sort of power issue

[scarlet arch]

that keyboard needs a REALLY good wipe

[placid blaze]

I ran my handvac over it which didn't do much but that's the most effort I want to give it

mission accomplished

[brave panther]

crusty and dusty keyboard

[placid blaze]

Marginally better

[frank zealot]

I spy Logitech K400

[brave panther]

man i do hate those racks without square holes for rack nuts

[scarlet arch]

My instinct to wipe it clean had gone to rest, thank you

[frank zealot]

why? Rack Nuts are ass

[brave panther]

no they aint

[low sorrel]

Just get a really big slow rpm fan are they stupid?

[steel stream]

🤷

[frank zealot]

nobody like dealing with cage nuts and bolts

[brave panther]

why do people hate rack nuts so bad

[frank zealot]

they're the fucking worst to deal with

[steel stream]

I'd assume it's a power heat thing, miniled its easy to retain full brightness on because it's an order of magnitude smaller than OLED "dimming zones"

[brave panther]

i can install them wihout issues barehanded and by feel

do people usualy struggle with them?

[frank zealot]

not all cage nuts are created equal is the problem, and they lack standardization.

Diameter? Thread? Good luck finding one standard

[brave panther]

https://youtu.be/MrPHUtqDEC4

[low sorrel]

Hey it's not an order of magnitude it's 2-4 order of magnitudes

[low sorrel]

Liquid cool it

[brave panther]

ones i have are either m6 or m5
i usualy install switches, ups and servers with m6 ones and patch panels, cable managers and other light gear with m5 ones

[young void]

She's got some coil whine but tolerable

They really went soft on the fan curve though

[low sorrel]

Whatcha playing

[young void]

Just 3dmark

Fans at 100% are no joke lmao

[pure garnet]

is the bios switch on silent?

[young void]

Where's the switch on this one?

Oh i see ty ill check after this run cant see what its on

With 100% fans solid 52c xD

[pure garnet]

it's under the fan cover

[low sorrel]

I give up

[scarlet arch]

Did you check EVERYWHERE?

[low sorrel]

Sir I lost it in a 1500mx400m radius

[scarlet arch]

My question remains😊

and I'm dumb, what 1500mx mean

[low sorrel]

1500 by 400 meter square

[scarlet arch]

Oh, well

[cosmic gazelle]

@pure garnet i'm tracking an hd 7850 for $15 on goodwill lol

[topaz veldt]

Tim Cook stepped down - buy now, sell tomorrow after hype

[scarlet arch]

I mean, not surprised you don't hear em...

[placid blaze]

What part of techpocalypse is it when you buy used SSD's

[scarlet arch]

A bad part

[placid blaze]

yeah I wasn't thrilled about it but the guy did post crystaldiskinfo results for it

[low sorrel]

Can John terus find my airpods case

[scarlet arch]

A K-9 might

[placid blaze]

someone tell me if this is good

[cosmic gazelle]

what would be bad about it

[placid blaze]

that's why I'm asking!

[scarlet arch]

I know that it's off topic, but just wanna share here, listening to a drone rn flying over me🙂
I'll delete if that's too off topic (I mean, it is tech in a way... :D)

[topaz veldt]

I dunno but I bought 62 shares

Tomorrow will dip in the AM and then bump like 5-10%

and then I will sell 62 shares

[scarlet arch]

Brother I don't think I can even afford a 1/10 of a share

[topaz veldt]

im sorry

[scarlet arch]

I mean, depends on what's the cost per one

[merry stirrup]

yeah i wasn’t questioning that

should be able to do better tho

[merry stirrup]

https://jobs.mchire.com/

[cosmic gazelle]

i want to put my account into after hours shares but i have far less financial cushion than you if you’re wrong lmao

[frank zealot]

Riddle me this:
User sends a plain text email to 4 recipients. (I was one on the last email as a test)

It gets sent, goes to sent items.

I receive said email.

~15 seconds later it disappears from his sent items, as well as everyone's inbox who received it.

(no outlook rules, or manual unsending are being performed at least that I can find....)

how TF is mail disappearing from inboxes?

[scarlet arch]

I'm in Ukraine, but if it's possible to work remotely for McDonald's...🤔

[low sorrel]

Have you tried moving

[cosmic gazelle]

bros gonna be flipping burgers with a drone

[topaz veldt]

Dude, I stopped managing email like 65 years ago

[scarlet arch]

Perchance

[frank zealot]

but that's just freaking weird

[cosmic gazelle]

i eated it

[topaz veldt]

Yeah it sounds like some sort of weird cache issue

[scarlet arch]

Nah, I'm fine here (Ignore the message above, I'm not bombed everyday or sum 😭)
And I'm not 18 so yea

[devout ridge]

Personal question for all of you, would you pay 400usd more for 48gb of ram on an M5 pro vs 24gb, price being 2199usd vs 2599usd

[low sorrel]

Finally John apple.

[low sorrel]

Do it

[devout ridge]

You make a damn good point

[scarlet arch]

Instructions unclear, I have bought both

[gloomy vault]

i have the ram

but not a single ddr5 motherboard lmao

[eager notch]

guys, should i even download wifi drivers when i am not using wifi on my pc? Im just using ethernet. Idk if then something will work just better if i just install it.

[gloomy vault]

ive been running a ddr4 z790 for like forever

[scarlet arch]

Build it

[gloomy vault]

i might get z890

270k plus

[scarlet arch]

No I mean literally build it

[gloomy vault]

💔

[scarlet arch]

Be a Chinese enthusiast for a sec

Sorry if my sense of humor is fried, I'm trying my best

[young void]

Daang this hits the full 610w

[gloomy vault]

kaboom

[eager notch]

?

[frank zealot]

yes, do not let unidentified hardware live in device manager

[scarlet arch]

The card is boutta bust
(I'm sorry)

[analog scroll]

🤨

[scarlet arch]

All the essential drivers are probably downloaded already, so, I guess not

[analog scroll]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/909634382061502525/1308203620298264697/attachment.gif

[scarlet arch]

Why the helmet tho

[frank zealot]

wifi is also bluetooth so yes you want it

[analog scroll]

because

helmet gud

[scarlet arch]

helmet safe (not always)

[devout ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6GWikWlAQA
looks like it's time to make my own clean room like this guy did and make my own RAM

[analog scroll]

you never know when you're gonna get crammed into the back of an M113

[devout ridge]

cheaper than buying ram

[hoary hatch]

Uh huh

[scarlet arch]

Be a step further and create DDR6

[hoary hatch]

Ram from the 2000s has gotta be dirt cheap on ebay

[devout ridge]

is that what he made? i just started watching the video

[analog scroll]

I store some ram within reach in case I'm hungry when gaming

[scarlet arch]

Actually, I do know that I'm not getting in that thing anytime soon! :D

[random flame]

Hot take, but pseudostatic ram needs a real comeback. I wonder if DIY could pull that off in some way.

[merry stirrup]

oof

[hoary hatch]

He made nothing lol

Er

[devout ridge]

Pseudostatic meaning like semi-volatile instead of true volatile like ram is RN?

[hoary hatch]

Let me rephrase that
He's certainly not making DDR3/4/5 that you can slot into your home system

[scarlet arch]

DDR0?

[hoary hatch]

This is much more hardcore version of Ben eaters homemade cpu

[devout ridge]

let me dream man

[scarlet arch]

homemade what

[devout ridge]

i wanna make ddr4 in my backyard

[random flame]

Basically, it's dram with a memory cell design that allows it to behave like sram.

[devout ridge]

homemade CPU sounds a lot cooler than it actually is

[scarlet arch]

same question

[devout ridge]

this is the CPU (not my image)

Fucking awesome, but not a CPU like you would normally think

[random flame]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_random-access_memory#PSRAM

[hoary hatch]

We need asml at home
Asml at home:

[devout ridge]

nuh uh, i would have two magnifying lenses

[scarlet arch]

"Not my image" no offense but, no shit it's not yours 😭
Looks kinda cool tho. I mean, probably useless, but still cool

[hoary hatch]

Better be made by Zeiss

[devout ridge]

only the highest quality amazon basics

[hoary hatch]

It's just an educational project

[low sorrel]

Wtf kinda GPUs are these lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/pb2VwsR2GL

[hoary hatch]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLowKtXNTBypGqImE405J2565dvjafglHU&si=B3fu7-hBWf52UkP2

[scarlet arch]

cool

[scarlet arch]

Interesting!

[hoary hatch]

Still a better fab than anything Elon will try to make

[analog scroll]

I bought some of those for my 8950

[scarlet arch]

oh, also, how do you get a "regular" role
I'm without my glasses, perhaps I missed that one somewhere

[analog scroll]

I haven't figured it out either

but I'm also not very regular

[random flame]

His is... Over-ambitious to me.

[scarlet arch]

"Hm, must be a newbie too'
joined 2024
"Ah."

[hoary hatch]

Ludicrous

[analog scroll]

:3

[low sorrel]

Gotta join 2023

[hoary hatch]

I have many thoughts on terafab
Mainly that he shouldn't try to build his own fab

[random flame]

Also, he's literally trying to use the same process as everybody else, so that's just further feeding into ASML's monopoly and also feeding into a process that despite it's refinement is full of problems when it comes to manufacturing at scale.

[low sorrel]

Also mildly annoyed that I don't have my join date as 2022 because I left and rejoined

[hoary hatch]

Define "same process"

[scarlet arch]

Damn gotta do a time machine real quick
no, wait, I won't meet the Discord TOS in 2023... Guess I'm just staying "Common rarity"😔

[random flame]

EUV

[hoary hatch]

Every fab vendor* has their own processes

EUV is a tool not a process

[random flame]

Fair enough.

[hoary hatch]

Unfortunately to make stuff at current leading edges and future nodes, EUV is a requirement

Intel 10nm tried to do high density with DUV only and that was terribly delayed and suffered yield issues

Not to mention it's pretty expensive

[scarlet arch]

Just curious, do y'all have day rn

[low sorrel]

No we blew up the sun

[scarlet arch]

Yeah I noticed

[pure garnet]

make an account on the ltt forum and connect your discord to it

[scarlet arch]

Pretty night for me

[random flame]

I mean, if that's the one they want to be stuck with.

Most EUV machines these days are both massive compared to older ones, have many issues due to their complexity, and of course have loads of teething issues with yields if you're not TSMC, who managed to at least get on it and refined it as much as possible. Most other semiconductor vendors are just not there when it comes to viability, even if they've already figured things out (Intel for instance) if we want bleeding edge reliably... Well, in the case you're someone like Broadcom or such who does any super massive in terms of chip die area.

[scarlet arch]

Damn a person just got an answer they've looked a few years for 😭

[random flame]

The only other option that could make sense is x-ray, but then like... There's only two intended vendors/tool makers on the way that could potentially do that and they're still years off from getting things fully at scale.

[low sorrel]

Actually?

[scarlet arch]

and thanks

[pure garnet]

#welcome covers it

[random flame]

And with Substrate, the way they want to do their process is a full wafer one-shot, which means they would literally be doing a full-wafer scale mask, which is crazy in technicality to pull off.

[low sorrel]

Oh there's an embark dev in here

[scarlet arch]

I'm blind asf

[low sorrel]

Fuck it woulda been funny to ping him when I had really funny bug on arc

[hoary hatch]

The EUV tools are huge but fans are being built to support these increasing tool sizes. The expensive and learning curve of EUV is worth it compared to trying to make DUV work for smaller and smaller nodes

Intel 18a has a lot of yield issues due to the nature of the process
EUV itself isn't responsible for that yield loss

[analog scroll]

I see

[hoary hatch]

Mostly the backside power...

Although it's fun looking down the EUV aisle of a fab and just saying "dam, that's a billion dollars right there"

Also the regular EUV tools are tiny compared to the new gen ones

[scarlet arch]

I like how I read what y'all are saying and understand and not understand at the same time

[random flame]

Of course it's not responsible really for the losses. It's the same issue as with finding actually reliable bluray burners. They don't quite exist because the precision is so tight, a manufacturer would be designing a product with tighter tolerances than the tech that came before and for something made at cost, doing both is not a thing.
So yeah, the nature of the process is the catch they're running up against that's driving most of the complexity, especially when they're chasing the bleeding edge.

[random flame]

I was certain they were originally.

Really, it was only the new litho machines I ever had found out about were the huge ones.

[analog scroll]

Oh yeah

what does Blu ray do that makes it different from regular dvd?

and harder to make

[wise bear]

happy 4/20

[scarlet arch]

Jokes on you but it's 4/21 for me

[wise bear]

jokes on you I don't give a toot

[scarlet arch]

hey that's not nice :(

[scarlet arch]

not sure but I think it has to do with the density of data storing on it? I'm a dum dum and not sure, but I think it's something like that

[analog scroll]

Ah ok

[scarlet arch]

Again not sure

[analog scroll]

I happen to own the first consumer available PC with a Blu-Ray drive

[low sorrel]

I lost my airpods case and find my is broken

[analog scroll]

The Sony Vaio RC-310G

[charred pewter]

yoo anyone think they can help me take off my cable for rgb bc I Dont want rgb anymore and they just dont work I cant turn them off with the software

[random flame]

Smaller light wavelength laser (blue-violet, which is around 405 nm and smaller), so the pits are even smaller and can be packed tigher, allowing more data to be stored.

[scarlet arch]

I don't think it's rockst science to pull a cable out but someone could help I guess :D

[smoky orbit]

Ohhhh coolio

[charred pewter]

sorry I just never touch my pc like that fr, the most ive done was change ram

[scarlet arch]

So... Was I right?

[analog scroll]

oh cool!
but more expensive

[random flame]

However, the catch is to read and write data at that dot pitch, you need a more accurate reader/burner.

[charred pewter]

if your able to help me I would grately appreciate it, for example what side is my rgb cable at, the back or in the glass yk

[smoky orbit]

Bigger data density (i think)

[merry stirrup]

good morning again tech chat 2

[random flame]

That means increased complexity in some shape or form, which increases cost in exchange for reducing reliability.

[analog scroll]

silver one second from left :3

[merry stirrup]

work is a constant cycle of agony

(i see puter and then press buttons on it in the bios & windows)

[scarlet arch]

The rgb connector is separate from the fan (I think), just find where they are on your motherboard and take them out (And turn the PC off fully, obviously)
Not sure, better go Google or wait for someone else to answer

[charred pewter]

k

[smoky orbit]

Ngl, my dream nugget pc find would be a passively cooled pc (not an industrial computer tho, too easy to find)

[smoky orbit]

Like the media center ones

[random flame]

And that's basically the comparison I'm making between bluray drives and current generation EUV lithography machines..

[edgy laurel]

Hello TC2

[merry stirrup]

notice something?

[wise bear]

Are you too of the high

[smoky orbit]

Why does the psu have an Nvidia branded cable? Qwq

[scarlet arch]

[guy takes shots of orange juice with sad music .gif]

[wraith steeple]

I don't even know what's going on

[smoky orbit]

(No one ever does (i thimks)

[edgy laurel]

na, that shit just makes me dizzy

[wise bear]

WHAT

I'm not even self-promoting

[wraith steeple]

Don't forget to bring a towel

[low sorrel]

Oh free pokemon card

[wise bear]

bullshit

[scarlet arch]

The only free stuff I found on the street were metal rusty bolts

(I still have them)

[low sorrel]

Aw I thought it was you I was gonna fuck with you in twitch chat

[wise bear]

NO its not me lmao

thats why im so annoyed at the automod

its just a fuckin' live dj

he actually works the deck live instead of playing some lame-ass playlist

[hoary hatch]

Oh yeah old EUV tools dwarf the DUV scanners

And the high NA class do the same to regular EUV scanners

[topaz veldt]

You mean you guys aren't chilling outside with your outdoor cozy blanket?

[low sorrel]

No I'm outside trying to find this fucking airpods case for the past 4 hours

[pure garnet]

4 hours? let it go bro

[low sorrel]

No

[scarlet arch]

That's the mood, go get that case bro

[low sorrel]

I managed to fix an old man's phone as a side quest

I've gotten 30k steps in today lol

[hoary hatch]

Which gen airpods

[low sorrel]

Pro 2

[hoary hatch]

Will they work with a pro 1 case

[low sorrel]

Fucking find my is broken

[scarlet arch]

It's fate

[hoary hatch]

My roommate lost/destroyed 3 pairs of pro 2 smh

[low sorrel]

I don't get how you can lose the ear buds

I can get losing the case or the case and the ear buds at the same time

[hoary hatch]

Leave them at a restaurant on a road trip
Lose the case
Send them in the wash

[scarlet arch]

I can't get how y'all are using buds, personally for me they're kinda annoying as hell

[hoary hatch]

They fit in pocket

[scarlet arch]

True

[hoary hatch]

Also I find earbuds to be much more comfortable

Over ears get warm

And now that I wear glasses I generally find over ears to be uncomfortable

[placid blaze]

Get better earpads

[hoary hatch]

In ear have their own set of issues, but the convenience factor is the real deciding factor

[scarlet arch]

I'm also wearing glasses, but I don't see how they change... Ah, you mean the frame getting pressed on by headphones?

[hoary hatch]

Yes

[scarlet arch]

I dunno, for me it's ok

[hoary hatch]

Actually I stopped using my over ears during covid cause it was pain with a mask

I am specifically talking about ANC over ears where you want them to press against you to form a good seal

I do not have these issues with my Sennheiser open backs but like those can't leave the house cause open back

[scarlet arch]

Also, I never even wear buds/headphones in the street
I prefer just... Walking, I dunno

[hoary hatch]

Oh I'd kill myself if I had to do that

[devout ridge]

open backs great for the house, horrible for going out and doing things

[hoary hatch]

They may as well be glued to my desk

[pallid marsh]

Psychopath

[scarlet arch]

I mean, I get it, listen to something while on a walk, but I just usually go out with friends and stuff, and even if I'm alone, I find it somehow scary/weird to just walk around in buds

[scarlet arch]

Perhaps

[pallid marsh]

Bone conduction headphones

[hoary hatch]

Lol I'm not suggesting wearing ANC buds when you're hanging out with friends

[scarlet arch]

I'm not native speaker and not sure tf that means

[hoary hatch]

But if I'm out walking it's either to get somewhere or to exercise, in both cases I want to turn off my brain and down out the tinnitus

[clear juniper]

What upgrade would be the best for my brother coming from a 5800x

13700k with new motherboard
5800x3d
5950x plus another 32gb ram making 64gig total

He mainly plays video games most are cpu intense with a 7900xt and he has talked about 3d modeling

[hoary hatch]

I personally have no issues with not being able to hear the world around me but I understand some people don't like that

[clear juniper]

I would be selling his old cpu to make up the difference as I did buy the 5800x

[hoary hatch]

These are terrible in loud environments, unfortunately

[scarlet arch]

Same but not for me
I kinda... Just speak to myself in my head or even quietly hum under my breath about everything I fucking see
Like: "Hm that car looks nice fr" and ramble about people

[smoky orbit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_conduction

[scarlet arch]

Interesting

[pallid marsh]

Word on the street the 5800x3d is coming back in production

[scarlet arch]

I got it now, thanks

[late atlas]

Bone

[clear juniper]

If it does and its $300 im definitely buying it idk if its worth $400 rn over a 13700k or 14700k

[scarlet arch]

Now that I read what I just wrote, sounds weird...

[hoary hatch]

They should release it at market value ($550)

[late atlas]

14700k user over here

20 cores, that's all I wanted to say

[hoary hatch]

Lame

24 cores get on my level bro

[late atlas]

Damn it

[clear juniper]

Same

[scarlet arch]

I'm 14 cores short of your level
Help me add them?

[frank zealot]

think it's worth the 120USD to upgrade to a 270K+ from Newegg?

[clear juniper]

Some day I might upgrade to a 270k plus

Lowk jus gonna wait for nova lake

[hoary hatch]

My roommate is still using a 13700k for 3 years now, no regression so far

[clear juniper]

I gotta get another 5080 first bc mine died and now I have a 9070xt

[pallid marsh]

Rma/warranty?

[late atlas]

And you'd be willing to switch to an am4 platform? And have to buy a brand new old motherboard and a brand new old CPU?

[clear juniper]

Returned it it happened in like a month

[scarlet arch]

Hey if you don't like that 9070xt...

[hoary hatch]

When I bought 270k+ it was only a $90 upgrade

To be honest, you can probably put a hundred bucks to better use

But if you can afford to throw that away on something fun, eh fuck it why not

[clear juniper]

[late atlas]

I don't want to imagine what your pc would do if you stuck a 9070xt in there

What CPU do you have again?

[clear juniper]

?

[scarlet arch]

Nah nah, I'd just leave it till better time comes

[late atlas]

His pc is very old, I mean DDR3 old

[clear juniper]

Oh I see lol

[clear juniper]

[late atlas]

So that 9070xt would be massively bottlenecked and it probably wouldn't be running on max either cause of the pcie slot not supporting it

[smoky orbit]

Lame, 64 cores (soon, hopefully, trying to find a cheap enough decommissioned epic cpu)

[scarlet arch]

I have a planned future build actually
Two, even
One of them is impossible for me anytime soon, but one is... Surprisingly possible

[clear juniper]

Yeah fr be like using a 1060 with 16gb of vram

[late atlas]

Yeah basically 😭

[frank zealot]

kinda what I'm thinking, probably not worth the price right now

[late atlas]

He has a Xeon E5-2680 v2

[smoky orbit]

(Or a thread ripper, which ever is the cheapest with at least 64 cores)

[late atlas]

What in the world do you need 64 cores for

[devout ridge]

You can also go with an older dual socket Xeon

[devout ridge]

pi hole, duh /s

[scarlet arch]

I mean, it can play what I play so at least it's not worse

[hoary hatch]

To be clear, you're on LGA1851?

[late atlas]

What is pi hole

[topaz veldt]

its gross

[hoary hatch]

Mouth

[devout ridge]

DNS based ad blocking

[late atlas]

Oh right

[devout ridge]

named pi hole because it's designed to run on a raspi

[late atlas]

Thought it was the other hole

[late atlas]

This makes more sense now

[hoary hatch]

Ear hole 👂

[smoky orbit]

Nope, never using a dual cpu system, I don’t have to manage that system

[late atlas]

Yes...

[devout ridge]

it's mostly plug and play

[smoky orbit]

A server with a ton of VMs and for some heavy data storage/manipulation (eventually)

[scarlet arch]

I remember trying to get Linux onto my PC... It was in January
0/10 experience, literally not possible

[clear juniper]

My poor 5080 couldn't even run counter strike without being more studdery than a crack heads brain

[devout ridge]

what PC do you have?

[devout ridge]

100% a skill issue

[scarlet arch]

bad

[clear juniper]

Nuh uh

[frank zealot]

265K right now (Which is a 230 trade in on `egg)

[scarlet arch]

• I think the motherboard is Windows locked or sum ✌️

[devout ridge]

is it an OEM build?

[clear juniper]

What do you have?

[smoky orbit]

Yes, but it’s on more fan to clean and take care of, one more heat sink, I have to have enough individual ram sticks for both of them

[devout ridge]

downloading 9GB at 3.5MB/s is just painful

[smoky orbit]

Pretty much impossible to do

[scarlet arch]

Yea, I didn't know that when I tried to force Linux into it

[clear juniper]

Fr my internet used to be 5mb max

[frank zealot]

2500+ seconds? Enjoy that nap

[smoky orbit]

You can’t “windows lock” a mobo

[devout ridge]

I simply choose not to clean my servers until they are actively choking

[clear juniper]

I only had Hotspot for 4 years

[hoary hatch]

Ah, same setup, aside that 270k+ jumped up $30 now

Yeah it's not gonna be an ROI kinda upgrade....just for funzies

[devout ridge]

Tell that to OEMs, because they'll do everything they can to do just that

[hoary hatch]

An impending aneurysm, hbu?

[devout ridge]

There are 100% ways to get linux on any mobo, but certain OEMs make it a total pain in the ass to do so

[late atlas]

Go for 192 cores

[clear juniper]

What cpu

[hoary hatch]

I meant 270k+
Z890 tomahawk
48gb 8200cl38

[scarlet arch]

Yeah I'll just wait for when I upgrade and perchance try again

[hoary hatch]

Link in bio 👊

[smoky orbit]

plugs in an ssd with Linux already installed

[merry stirrup]

boooo msi

[devout ridge]

Yeah, won't boot

[late atlas]

MSI good motherboards

[scarlet arch]

Uhh, no. 😭

[devout ridge]

You doubt the persistence of OEMs to fuck their customers over

[clear juniper]

Holy ssds good lord where do they even go lmao

[frank zealot]

out of the box, I could put 9 NVME's in my board

[devout ridge]

Imma have dinner and come back

[wraith steeple]

Same here

[clear juniper]

Damn im locked to 4 rn

[wraith steeple]

Z890 Nova

[frank zealot]

I currently have 6 for the lulz

[scarlet arch]

Tell you what, it didn't even boot the fucking installer of Linux
I tried FIVE distros

[clear juniper]

I do love my arous pro x tho

[devout ridge]

why have NVME when you can have 24 SAS drives

[hoary hatch]

In the motherboard? Where else would SSDs go
Also it's only 6tb

[devout ridge]

And to answer your question, yes i now have tinnitus

[clear juniper]

[smoky orbit]

Flash a modded bios? (if there isn’t one, make it)

[devout ridge]

That is what i meant by:

There are 100% ways to get linux on any mobo, but certain OEMs make it a total pain in the ass to do so

[clear juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[hoary hatch]

Here's my unused/ewaste pile

[clear juniper]

I'll take those ssds

[scarlet arch]

Uhh, no, I'm too young and dumb to flash my own BIOS onto the mobo
+, the forums they are at are Russian and probably... Ooooold

[hoary hatch]

Actually you won't

[clear juniper]

Damn

[hoary hatch]

My 850 evo is still the most expensive storage device I've purchased

[smoky orbit]

My server (until I get my own place) is a tower server in my hobby room which I can’t insulate that much against noise so I don’t want to get a server rack yet

[wraith steeple]

If any of those were SCSI, I would have happily taken some off your hands

[topaz veldt]

96GB 6400 CL32 for $650??

[smoky orbit]

It’s not that hard tbh

[frank zealot]

4 Vertical Beskar NVME SSDs, just for the giggles

[scarlet arch]

Like, I'd rather fucking wait for an upgrade, less nerve wracking

[young void]

Sounds fair all considered

[wise bear]

Therver

[wraith steeple]

I should test mine when I get the chance

[merry stirrup]

is that your server

[smoky orbit]

You can’t ever be too young to flash your first bios,

[late atlas]

Why is every active person in this server in this chat right now

[frank zealot]

It's terrifying that that's a reasonable price

[wise bear]

Therver

[smoky orbit]

For funsies

[scarlet arch]

I dunno, I'm new

[hoary hatch]

The barracuda and wd blue started throwing errors in unraid
The apple drives are apple, no idea if they're usable regularly but holy shit they old

[merry stirrup]

is this stuff lichen or moss

[hoary hatch]

So I got a laptop 1tb HDD that's usable I guess but SATA and 5400rpm

[frank zealot]

I'm just a nerd and had to use the Beskar NVMEs 😄

[scarlet arch]

steals your rack

[wraith steeple]

Capacity? Speed?

[scarlet arch]

Lichen

[wraith steeple]

50 pin? 68 pin?

[merry stirrup]

thanks

i hate it so much it sucks it’s in my way

[scarlet arch]

not sure tho, but maybe

[frank zealot]

still the lamest SSD to ever exist:

[young void]

Is it fuzzy or rough?

[merry stirrup]

kinda but more like really wet clothes that tear easy

[scarlet arch]

Tf this template ssd? 😭

[late atlas]

Lovely answer

[smoky orbit]

I have a drive (old 1.5tb apple one) that died so hard it locks up any pc (macOS, Linux, windows) from even posting

[young void]

Maybe both

[merry stirrup]

perhaps

[frank zealot]

That's an actual SSD, I have several in my bucket of SATA SSDs

[devout ridge]

for a novice that didn't even recognize that the OEM bit was why it was annoying, it very much is

[late atlas]

Iroh pointed out the 3d print job on the stand before

[merry stirrup]

i’m on my break at work

[late atlas]

I messaged the guy, it was already gone 💔

[hoary hatch]

The dead drives?

[scarlet arch]

Yeah It's just funny how it's so boring

[merry stirrup]

i’m thinking of bringing home a north xl glass here really soon

[smoky orbit]

Ohhh, yeah…. Mushy bwain, sowwy

[wraith steeple]

Oh.....

[hoary hatch]

The labels are all visible

[merry stirrup]

i quite like them

[wraith steeple]

NVM then

[hoary hatch]

Well not dead....just not trustworthy

[scarlet arch]

Goodness gracious

[smoky orbit]

(It was a pos even when it was brand new)

[hoary hatch]

Again, the drives started to throw errors in unraid so we replaced them asap

[young void]

Im down to my last 2 hdds

[scarlet arch]

Oh wait I'mma send a pretty photo too

[devout ridge]

the wall of near-ewaste, and pretty, fake flowers

[young void]

Well for backups thats is

[smoky orbit]

Me with my gpu collection (some of them are actual ewaste)

[teal orbit]

What's the reaosn speicifcially to want SCSI instead of sata

[devout ridge]

most of those drives at 12-15 years old

[scarlet arch]

My turtle (Not sure, I'm without my glasses)

[devout ridge]

there are two genuine LSI i16 HBA's though

[merry stirrup]

old computer

[young void]

They have rare occasional uses

[late atlas]

I can't show any cool pc stuff because I haven't done shit recently but here's some lovely pork loin I bought for my friend from a farm

[teal orbit]

wait like parallel SCSI?

[devout ridge]

this looks like pure darkness with a single red, blue, and green dot

[hoary hatch]

So much more professional than my box of ewaste drives 😂

[smoky orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-see-shit-gif-10340128

[merry stirrup]

yes homie like scsi hard drives

[devout ridge]

i have really bad ADHD, i either see it daily, or it doesn't exist

[teal orbit]

Wouldn't the port be different

[merry stirrup]

he’s saying if it was

[analog scroll]

ancient computer

[hoary hatch]

This is what I tell my gf

[analog scroll]

I'd love a 386