tech-chat-2

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel so I helped some begger off a grate and then went down into some sewers and shit last night - untied a chick in front of a weird altar. Do I need to pick things up? Is there an inventory?

[pure garnet]

thought for a second you actually did that irl

[patent gorge]

I just hate reflections

[pure garnet]

they make curtains

[steel stream]

what game is this

[pure garnet]

no need to mess up the display quality

[topaz veldt]

crimson

[brisk jolt]

jesus christ what the fuck happened at samsung

[patent gorge]

I'm not getting blackout curtains for every room

[steel stream]

interesting

[patent gorge]

and I don't like to always use my computer in pitch black darkness

[civic reef]

Oh no I mentioned DP as "theoretical maximum bandwidth"

[pure garnet]

you don’t have to use it in pitch black darkness lmao

do you only use your phone in a dimly lit cave?

[patent gorge]

I barely use my phone at all

[patent gorge]

it is fairly dark in my living room atm and I can still see reflections on the TV

[pure garnet]

try turning it on

[patent gorge]

you can't convince me of something I can visually verify with my own eyes is false

[brisk jolt]

damocles level typa take

[hoary hatch]

Jaykihn villain arc

[patent gorge]

yes if I set it to blast full screen white color, I don't see it, but in that scenario what the hell is the point of "perfect blacks"?

[pure garnet]

“aw man i got a reflection”

[patent gorge]

for the dark parts where the dark blacks matter, reflections will be visible with very little light

[shell void]

i hate using any displays in a dark room

it creates glare on my glasses and agitates my eyes

i do still prefer glossy displays in bright rooms because i can ignore the reflections due to them being on a different focal plane, and i value clarity above all else

[patent gorge]

reflections distract me

[shell void]

it’s like how you can’t focus on your window itself, and what’s in the backyard at the same time because they’re at different focal depths

you can see them both sure but only one can be in true focus at once

[woven adder]

hi

[brisk jolt]

have you tried using the monitor instead of leaving it off and acting as a mirror

[steel stream]

yeah I have not had issues with glossy displays in a bright room, only when I have a light pointed right at it

[woven adder]

how can i get the mac mini m4 cheaper

[pure garnet]

the permanent grain on any color is preferable to a slight reflection

[woven adder]

or should i wait for m5

[pure garnet]

you can order it from the education store or used

[green marsh]

i mean base M4 is 120GB/s, M4 Pro is 273GB, M4 Max is 410-546GB/s. Even the M4 Max is only reaching numbers of a 5060 Ti. M5 improves it to 153 for base, 307 for Pro, 614GB/s for Max. M5 Max MBP 14" starts from 4300 euros, that is with 36GB memory. For that amount of money, you can get a 5090 with 32GB VRAM and rest of the system

[steel stream]

https://jobs.mchire.com

[patent gorge]

I already told it to the previous genius who tried to make the same stupid argument - if one of the main points of glossy is to have darker black, then those dark parts don't produce light that would offset the reflections, which means the parts where glossy should help the most, is where it actually suffers the most from reflections

[woven adder]

i think i will wait for the M5

[steel stream]

I appreciate you calling me a genius

[hoary hatch]

M5 is gonna be more expensive

[shell void]

not everyone has the ability to maintain focus on the display instead of the reflections and that’s fine; that is why matte displays exist

for the people that just can’t do it, and are willing to sacrifice some image quality

[woven adder]

how much?

[brisk jolt]

have you tried having a game displayed on it, youtube, media in general or even wallpaper engine?

[shell void]

i like matte for touchscreens but that’s about it

[brisk jolt]

unless you have the fucking sun pointed towards the display its not a problem lol

[pure garnet]

you’ll still see a reflection with matte anyway

[patent gorge]

I am talking to you right now using my TV as the display in a fairly dark room, and I can see reflections of my apartment right there behind this very message you sent

you're not gonna convince me that my eyes are wrong

[hoary hatch]

$100 more

[brisk jolt]

idk about you but I literally dont see no reflection on my glossy OLED while I game and consume media- either you gotta be sitting too close or your color settings are shit

[woven adder]

what do yall think which is gonna come sooner gaming on linux or gaming on MAC

[cyan canopy]

Step 1, find a Mac mini M4 somewhere.
Step 2, break the window.
Step 3, steal it.
Step 4, jail?

[pure garnet]

5% brightness fr

[fervent chasm]

I mean gaming exists on both already

[woven adder]

and is the base storage 256 or 512

[brisk jolt]

you’re being too generous

[cyan canopy]

Yes

[cosmic gazelle]

kyoko u see my results last night gang

[patent gorge]

good for you, then glossy oled monitors are the right choice for you personally

[woven adder]

buts its not wide spread and not everyrhing is supported and its a pain

[pure garnet]

i did but i was going to bed

[fervent chasm]

Proton makes it not a pain

[brisk jolt]

i dont wanna force my opinion on you but really everyone here is simply not a fan of matte lol

[cosmic gazelle]

nah ur good just askin

i’m a bit sad i can’t push my core clocks further

but there’s nothing i can do to make them better

[livid flame]

Who doesn’t like matte

[pure garnet]

linux gaming will get “bigger” since their user space isn’t as hostile as apple is with regards to cutting support arbitrarily

[woven adder]

still windows is better in comparison i think

[pure garnet]

but linux still isn’t great if you value your time

[livid flame]

Linux users not as hostile

[fervent chasm]

It is

[woven adder]

and your sanity

[hoary hatch]

I am expecting it to start at $699 for 16/512
$599 EDU store starting

[steel stream]

I mean they can be a fan of matte, I don't personally get it, I brought my up arguments, he brought up counterarguments which were valid to them so can't do much else in return

[fervent chasm]

But that’s because everything is built around windows

[pure garnet]

user space doesn’t mean users!!!

[hoary hatch]

M5 MBA increased price $100 and base storage to 512

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/sunna-zzz-zenless-zone-zero-random-kid-random-gif-3794911060374690695

[hoary hatch]

I see no reason the Mac mini would do anything different

[fervent chasm]

Honestly, I’m kinda glad that we’re heading towards more web apps than native

[topaz veldt]

I just went around and got all the SPs and VIDs for my 9950X3Ds for which to sell off when 9950X3D2 comes

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/sketch-whats-up-brother-funny-twitch-gif-18084904052923259782

[woven adder]

power button still on the bottom?

[livid flame]

Linux isn’t a direct replacement for a windows gaming… but it can be… if you play the right games

[fervent chasm]

I like satin not matte

[livid flame]

If you play any competitive gaming, just forget Linux

[patent gorge]

I thought you collected unused CPUs onto a stack on your desk

[woven adder]

there is hope still people are working on stuff

[livid flame]

It’s about devs not Linux

[patent gorge]

such as CS2? 🤔

[fervent chasm]

If more people used it, more people would develop it, but there needs to be a good enough reason for folks to switch which there obviously isn’t yet considering market share

[pure garnet]

the average person doesn’t install an operating system

[shell void]

all of them of course.. they’re obsolete now

[pure garnet]

linux is a niche hobby os and that’s how it’ll stay

[livid flame]

They’re not incentivised to make anti cheat work as there is a much lower user base. Thus the circle goes round and round because people won’t switch as it won’t work, they won’t make it because people don’t switch. However there is hope if “steam box” and new Xbox console got a direct Linux competitor to really enthuse that market

[woven adder]

no its not a hobby it has genuine use cases where it makes sense

[fervent chasm]

I wouldn’t consider it niche when Valve is gambling on it for their steam machine but I get your point

[pure garnet]

yeah and none of those use cases are a desktop system

[pure garnet]

you mean the abstracted away read only distro? i guess

[livid flame]

Steam deck is niche…

[green marsh]

the devil's number there

[fervent chasm]

What difference does it make, it’s an intro

[livid flame]

VR is niche

[patent gorge]

gaming is niche

[pure garnet]

the steam deck does its hardest to hide any actual linux from an end user

[brisk jolt]

steam deck officially gets smoked by 250k igpu

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

[patent gorge]

what is "actual linux"

[fervent chasm]

Because tiny handheld console gaming also is

[woven adder]

its pure C

[pure garnet]

i wish

[fervent chasm]

Assembly

[patent gorge]

not true, it also has rust

[topaz veldt]

Guys is it me or do the SP ratings vs actual voltages seem.... off

[livid flame]

As is Linux powered gaming OS. It’s niche.

[woven adder]

yeah its not pure i take my statement back

[pure garnet]

those sp scores are wild

[patent gorge]

I think people underestimate how large amount of people 5% is

[pure garnet]

how is 1.336v in the same range as 1.25

[wraith steeple]

[topaz veldt]

right...

[pure garnet]

5% of the steam userbase is still not a lot of computers compared to the market as a whole

[woven adder]

i think a linux os meant for gaming will be more optimized for gaming

than windows

[fervent chasm]

Fork found in kitchen

[pure garnet]

what does that even mean

[patent gorge]

to what market? steam userbase market compared to PC gaming market is... well... almost all of it

[pure garnet]

the pc market?

[woven adder]

resource management

[patent gorge]

so let me get this right, you think only a fraction of PC gamers use steam?

[civic reef]

Even on Amazon I can't find any Thunderbolt 4 enclosures for like sub 300 💔

All are either unknown controller or JHL7440

[pure garnet]

if you think every pc is just for gaming that’s up to you

[fervent chasm]

Steam has 172m mau with 75% market share of pc gaming

[patent gorge]

the discussion has, from the very beginning, been about gaming. not sure why you decided to expand the context to the whole PC market for just one argument

[pure garnet]

i think the reflections just got you distracted

it’s a desktop operating system you can bring up other use cases 😭

[brisk jolt]

https://wccftech.com/intel-core-ultra-250k-plus-4-igpu-cores-faster-vs-steam-deck-can-play-games-at-1080p/amp/ the steam deck is obsolete smh

[woven adder]

why hasnt there been a Linux disto for gaming? why,,,,, cant someone in his garage make it?

[wraith steeple]

SIGH

[steel stream]

wait the 250K has 4 iGPU cores?

[fervent chasm]

Didn’t Linus just make a YouTube video about a few distros with one being tailored towards gaming?

[pure garnet]

boy do i have the distro for you https://www.supergamer.x10host.com

[fervent chasm]

I hate old website layouts

[steel stream]

TempleOS

[fervent chasm]

Super optimized

[wraith steeple]

FreeDOS

[pure garnet]

imagine the aura of seeing this

[fervent chasm]

Why do you have it in a VM on standby for us

[pure garnet]

it’s their screenshot

[fervent chasm]

Oh

[brisk jolt]

yes same with 270K

[fervent chasm]

It’s not even of the actual OS on hardware lmao

[pure garnet]

i’ve installed this crap on real hardware before though 😭

[steel stream]

oh shiiiiiiiiiiiieet

fuck do I need a 270K now

[woven adder]

nice

[fervent chasm]

That’s how I felt devving GPU paravirtualization for Intel and AMD without having either GPUs

[topaz veldt]

wears a wife beater for his linkedin photo

[fervent chasm]

I’m just praying it works with them

[steel stream]

that's how you know he's a professional

[livid flame]

Wears a wife beater? wtf is that

You mean the vest?

[pure garnet]

that is no vest mr thaldy

[fervent chasm]

How do you not know what a wife beater is

[pure garnet]

that’s the $5 10 pack shirts from walmart

[fervent chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/samuel-l-jackson-angry-stare-gif-12137887

[edgy laurel]

lol. i'd say pickup important things, loot. Just try not to fill up on things that have a little picture of a home icon. Those can be sold but its just decoration. Quest rewards don't always go to your inventory, you might have to pickup something.

[livid flame]

I’m from the Uk. The only thing we refer to as a wife beater is blokes that drink Stella Artois

[fervent chasm]

It’s that ^^^

[steel stream]

Detroit represent!

[frank cypress]

always in narnia

[livid flame]

Yeah just a vest

[fervent chasm]

That’s not a vest

[edgy laurel]

yeah, inventory isin your start menu

[wraith steeple]

This is about what I expect from LinkedIn

[fervent chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/moncler-puffer-vest-gilet-puffy-vest-finance-gif-1230676243272913329

That’s a vest

[livid flame]

What the

[pure garnet]

supergameros is the future of linux

[topaz veldt]

rofl you think thats a vest!?

[livid flame]

That’s a body warmer

[fervent chasm]

Oh lord

[brisk jolt]

hold out for NVL brother

[fervent chasm]

British English is so cooked

[livid flame]

The cultural differences ay

[brisk jolt]

its just like 8 more months

[topaz veldt]

its an under shirt

its not a vest lol

that is no cultural difference

[wraith steeple]

English in general is a braindead language

[fervent chasm]

That’s not even cultural differences

[livid flame]

We call that a vest here

Would be considered an under garment

[topaz veldt]

you call this a vest?

[steel stream]

do you guys call forks four pronged eating utensils

[patent gorge]

this is a vest

[livid flame]

Calling a body warmer a vest is wild

[livid flame]

That is a suit vest - yes

[fervent chasm]

Uk is just weird

[livid flame]

Yes. That’s what they’re marketed and called in the UK

[pure garnet]

gdm off

[fervent chasm]

That’s so weird

[patent gorge]

isn't that a tank top though

[fervent chasm]

There’s even separate definitions for it

[topaz veldt]

lol if thats true its the UK trying to level their class

ain't no world a fuckin tank top is a vest

[livid flame]

Sorry what?

[pure garnet]

a vest (real) is a waistcoat apparently

[livid flame]

You gonna keep going all Steve from GN holier than thou on a cultural naming difference and being ignorant snail?

[patent gorge]

calling a tank top a vest is like calling a t-shirt a jacket

[fervent chasm]

You see how our definition is on top, it’s because it’s more right

[topaz veldt]

lol hilarious

[livid flame]

What do you guys call this baby garment?

Short or long sleeve doesn’t matter unless different names

[topaz veldt]

UK is like "how do we better describe our low end people.... lets call tighty whities silken robes"

[patent gorge]

light armor

[fervent chasm]

I call all baby clothes just baby clothes idk the name

[topaz veldt]

thats a onesie

[livid flame]

See that’s what we call a baby vest

[topaz veldt]

lol baby vest

[livid flame]

A onesie has the legs also

[pure garnet]

yeah i’m seeing why we withdrew

[topaz veldt]

LOLOL

BITCH GET ME MY FINEST VEST

https://tenor.com/view/the-sopranos-tony-soprano-towel-gif-23162793

[fervent chasm]

Yah idk y’all just weird for that

[steel stream]

what do you guys call these

[fervent chasm]

you see how I added Yall because they don’t use it

I think

[topaz veldt]

These are hooves

[livid flame]

Time to get warshipped

Hooves?

[steel stream]

british people are known to be devil goat people

[civic reef]

Okay I can't find any real TB4 spec docks/enclosures so a TB3 dock with a JHL7440 chip will have to do

[fervent chasm]

Dude I’m so hungry rn

[hoary hatch]

The physical design should be the exact same
This is just gonna be a chip revision

[topaz veldt]

I get why we dumped their tea - they were calling it something else and we were fuckin like "bro what"

[pure garnet]

they probably calling it dumping dust

[topaz veldt]

"PLEASE PAY VAT ON THE DRINKY MULCH" wtf? dump that tea in the river fuck this shit

[fervent chasm]

Thaldy you should come to the US for a few months at some point

[woven adder]

why does the UK has the worst food whats the history of this

[livid flame]

Are you from the country that bleaches their chicken?

[fervent chasm]

Stuck on an island with nothing that’s what will happen

[pure garnet]

why is the cuda package 2gb

big and greedy

[woven adder]

they had indian spices back then why didnt they adopt

[fervent chasm]

thing for making AI contains bloatware

I’m sure it’s all important stuff just don’t need all of it

You can’t choose what to install?

[pure garnet]

i needed it for my cybersecurity class

the assignments are in tryhackme now but they don’t give us a subscription and i’m not paying to spin up a vm

[woven adder]

which distro?

[pure garnet]

so i just run the shit locally on the ones you can vpn in for

[pure garnet]

arch

[fervent chasm]

I bought the KFC I’m so hungry

[pure garnet]

i use it bc im lazy not bc it's funny

[woven adder]

gl

[pure garnet]

oh i mean using it isn't hard

i just reboot to windows once i don't need it anymore

[wraith steeple]

Oh we talking about food?

[patent gorge]

I would honestly hate it if there were like 20 smaller dependencies instead of 1 and I'd go through a loop of "oh you are missing this package" install it. "oh you're also missing this" install it, etc

I'd rather take a 2gb install

[fervent chasm]

Yes I was staring at the clock for it to turn 10 so it would open

There’s borscht but I already had it yesterday

[pure garnet]

i don't think you get a choice since nvidia usually just dumps tarballs

[fervent chasm]

Lmao

[patent gorge]

well yea my point was that I kinda like that you just install one thing and it's done

[fervent chasm]

Weird ah sleeping position

[wraith steeple]

I'm a very "You can take the man out of the country, but you can't take the country out of the man" when it comes to food

[pure garnet]

2gb isn't really too bad it's just funny seeing like

the big one when you're updating the system

[fervent chasm]

I think my dog is on the spectrum sometimes

[patent gorge]

yea for linux packages that's unusual

[livid flame]

Would probably make your dog smarter than a lot of humans

[patent gorge]

I got an extra nvme drive for my linux system just to have all the LLM related stuff on that

500gb of model cache already

[pure garnet]

i gave linux a 1tb drive and im at 200gb

but i'm also using vms for stuff i don't need to

[steel stream]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-and-rtx-5060-rumored-to-get-9gb-gddr7-variants#disqus_thread

[livid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-wow-you-dont-say-michael-office-wow-michael-scott-gif-11124235989547302113

[patent gorge]

I don't really use VMs on linux at all, can't remember when I last did it

[wraith steeple]

I should get something too now that you mention it

[arctic bronze]

vms is really a tool when you need them tbh, I dont use alot of them

[pure garnet]

i had to use it last sem since was packaging stuff for alpine so i needed to test the packages

[patent gorge]

but then again none of what I do is GUI related and everything non-GUI can easily be done in docker

[topaz veldt]

I just asked an Ireland employee what they call that garment and he said vest. I am doing the termination paperwork now.

[steel stream]

it must be done

[pure garnet]

yeah you gotta clean house

[patent gorge]

yea I use docker for things like this

[topaz veldt]

I read this is 96GB

[livid flame]

You mean an Irish employee

[late atlas]

What even is the point in a 9gb card, it's just 1 extra from 8

[pure garnet]

it was desktop stuff so i couldn't

[topaz veldt]

I have no idea if he's irish but he's in ireland

[pure garnet]

the only thing we got off the ground was a small fork for lxqt on campus

[livid flame]

You can use it in context to the place not just nationality

[pure garnet]

but we also have our own kernel and stuff the school machines use

[topaz veldt]

I am not taking advice from someone who calls an undershirt a vest

[steel stream]

let's them use 3GB chips instead

[livid flame]

Seems like a bit of prejudice going on their snail

[topaz veldt]

Yah I don't quote wrong people

[late atlas]

And what difference will that make

[livid flame]

A bit of superiority complex

[pure garnet]

12% more vram 🔥

[patent gorge]

more vram while not being more expensive? 🤔

[livid flame]

I guess you’ll get a 9950x3d2 on release then

[steel stream]

3 chips as opposed to 4 I guess

[late atlas]

Amazing, marginally no different

[late atlas]

Yeah but the difference is so small, I don't think it will make much difference

Just make a 12gb version? So it's 4x3gb

Like imo this is so stupid

[topaz veldt]

I guess you won't?

[brisk jolt]

nah rip profit margins

[livid flame]

Although I guess if you live in a country that bleaches chicken and then you eat it. I can’t expect a lot can I

[brisk jolt]

that like 20 bucks is important man

[steel stream]

Wish I could tell you but I'm not an NVIDIA engineer

[patent gorge]

there is probably some supply chain reason why it makes more sense for them to use 3gb chips

[late atlas]

Yeah they're really struggling, they're only worth 5 trillion dollars, it's a small company to be fair

Yeah probably

[brisk jolt]

yeah its a small and growing company let them cook their profit margins

[steel stream]

they were started in a Denny's they need this

[brisk jolt]

yeah bro think about it you cant leave jensen back to being a dishwasher can ya

[pure garnet]

you can only put chips in the size of the bus

so you can have 8, 9, 16, or 18

or i guess technically 2,4,3,6 as well

[steel stream]

give me a 2GB 5060 please

I'd trade in my 5070 Ti for that

[pure garnet]

5060 2gb would be so fire

[fervent chasm]

I might’ve been their first order of the day

[topaz veldt]

I wish I was offended by this but I have never eaten bleached chicken nor heard of that. but I do not wear vests in my linkedin photo

[livid flame]

That’s nice for you. I hope you got a trophy for it

[topaz veldt]

I love that thaldy is so fuckin miserable all because I said he doesn't have a 5090. I love that it really sunk in and carried on.

He's down to bashing US chicken or something lol

[livid flame]

I’m not miserable.

[topaz veldt]

I don't think anyone here would agree with that

[livid flame]

I did just have to listen to you being very rude, prejudiced and insulting towards British culture and language.

[topaz veldt]

lol

Thaldy you need to go to clown school for a semester or two

[pure garnet]

what culture

[topaz veldt]

have a laugh

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/brutal-jack-jack54hd-savage-vicious-gif-26194908

[shell void]

@devout ridge i saw this morning that the entirety of the 2026 avatar movie was leaked online

[livid flame]

<@&750150305383186585> rule 2. Bored of this harassment from him now

[topaz veldt]

I am literally telling you to laugh a little

[hoary hatch]

clown school
https://jobs.mchire.com/

[topaz veldt]

Making fun of "vest" is not harassment lol

[livid flame]

You’ve been very disrespectful and started to harass. I’m just highlighting the rules

[pure garnet]

jobs.mchire is my magnum opus

[steel stream]

the blue people?

[shell void]

no sir the last airbender animated movie that’s streaming in october of this year

[topaz veldt]

This from the guy who told me I have a superiority complex because I like CPUs

[steel stream]

oh

[shell void]

the entire movie got leaked online XD

[patent gorge]

no need for insults, but it is still an interesting true fact that in the US, chicken is commonly chlorinated before sale, which is done using sodium chlorite, that is also the main ingredient of bleach

[livid flame]

Noice. Is it any good?

[steel stream]

ok I need to watch that lol

[young void]

Where, for scientific reasons lmao

If its coming this year I can probs wait

[livid flame]

Just ask for the Linux distro blud

[topaz veldt]

less than 5% and hasn't been for years

[shell void]

you can find it in 3 seconds if you just search “avatar movie” on twitter

[topaz veldt]

But imagine being so personally afflicted about a good joke session about "vest" that you have to attack chicken lol

[steel stream]

oh I have to go on twitter? no thanks

oh sorry x.com

[shell void]

i’m sure it’s elsewhere

it’s all over

[young void]

My real issue is them plumping chickens had some the other day the meat was so wet inside 🤮. I ate cause im poor but ffs

[steel stream]

yeah I'm sure i can find it somewhere

[topaz veldt]

can we all agree costco chickens are amazing though

[shell void]

i haven’t checked if it’s on TL yet

[steel stream]

yes sir

[pure garnet]

the costco food court is fine dining

[steel stream]

wait are you also on TL

[shell void]

of course

[topaz veldt]

not a big chicken consumer here, but costco rotisserie is solid

[steel stream]

Costco cheese pizza + Strawberry sundae is mint

[steel stream]

hell yeah brother

[livid flame]

So you’re still harassing me. Can you just stop?

[plucky finch]

Guys. It’s in your best interest to calm down and make up

[topaz veldt]

Sorry for laughing at vest

[young void]

You dare summon the great momo ed boysss

[steel stream]

Meijer has pretty good deals on chicken recently so been eating a lot of it lol

[livid flame]

I have asked him to stop. It’s up to him.

[steel stream]

finally made a meal with some beef in it this week

[young void]

Jokes, lol hope you're well

[shell void]

i wonder when starlink will finally get their new V3 satellites launched and offer gigabit service

[topaz veldt]

OK so no apologies for accusing me of a superiority complex because I want the new CPU? cool noted.

[plucky finch]

Both of you are feeding a fire either change the subject, or stop it

[wraith steeple]

I should restock on some goods. Will drive to Dream Market and other arab markets some time this weekend

[plucky finch]

tsk.

[topaz veldt]

I need to feed my hunger its almost lunch time

[round flint]

have a question like should i wait for zen 6 and ddr6 and pcie 7 like all new and upgraded stuff coming next year by the time around june ig they will reach consumer markets ig so should i wait or build it now(in 3 months) (currently have a bs laptop only with integrated graphics)

[steel stream]

Apparently there is a nice farmers market by me with super cheap produce I need to go to

[topaz veldt]

That is so so so far off

DDR6 is not a soonish thing

[steel stream]

we arent even on PCIe 6.0

[patent gorge]

how dare you be excited about new tech products. it's not like this is a tech community or anything

[shell void]

zen 6 is on am5 and uses ddr5/pcie5 like usual

[steel stream]

next gens will still be DDR5 and PCIE 5

[shell void]

zen 7 will also most likely remain on am5

[young void]

Based on current events i cant say if it'll get better, but current mobos will work on zen 6 for the x870s

[late atlas]

They are, trust

[shell void]

ddr6 is a 2029-2030 thing

[topaz veldt]

We all know the 9950X3D2 is going to be a lame upgrade but it'll be interesting at least

[edgy laurel]

the rumor of all rumors. wild if it comes true

[pure garnet]

who is they

[steel stream]

Zen 67

[edgy laurel]

stop it

[late atlas]

Die

[livid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/praying-mateo-superstore-sign-of-the-cross-prier-gif-9684878

[turbid locust]

Illuminati

[young void]

Word?

[steel stream]

sorry

[pure garnet]

i can’t wait to put zen 6 and 7 in my x670e-e

[round flint]

google saying 2027 to 28

[shell void]

for the first enterprise platforms maybe

not for consumers

[topaz veldt]

I am making a chicken caesar salad today just to celebrate

[edgy laurel]

from scratch?

[steel stream]

god I can't wait till I'm old and hear "6 7" and just go batshit

[turbid locust]

@edgy laurel did you see my crash out last night lol I pinged you twice

[topaz veldt]

like i mean... from romaine, chicken, and such

[patent gorge]

I'm not sure I want zen 7 on AM5 tbh. by that time there would definitely be platform advancements that could be had that aren't possible on AM5

[livid flame]

You don’t already?

[pure garnet]

i believe intel has said 3 gens on nvl socket

[steel stream]

did you spend too much money on CS2 skins

[livid flame]

AI

[edgy laurel]

oh, shoot you're right you did. i accidentaly swipped them away in my just woke up haze this morning and forgot, hold on

[turbid locust]

no worries lol

[steel stream]

I mean I do, it'll just be funnier when I'm 70

[young void]

[edgy laurel]

i thought you had solved this already?

[topaz veldt]

buy for today

[wraith steeple]

I'm the go-to guy in my family when it comes to this. I am one of the last in my family that speaks it on a native level and know all the good places for mid-east sweets, food, and such

[livid flame]

Remember DDR5 came in 2020 and consumer came back end of 21

[topaz veldt]

I have a good lead on server infra and DDR6 is not even a topic yet

[pure garnet]

you can wait if you want but nothing ddr6 is launching soon

[shell void]

8800-12800MT/s is already possible with DDR5 so there’s no rush, especially with the pricing being as high as it is right now

[turbid locust]

No it still only worked for me in fullscreen, never worked in windowed

[topaz veldt]

We're just getting stable implementation of MRDIMMs in server world

[steel stream]

g-sync?

[livid flame]

I thought it said 22800

[turbid locust]

Ya

[edgy laurel]

DDR6 UDIMM prices if they came out for mainstream motherboards next year.. LMAO

[steel stream]

I feel like everytime I launch CS2 I have to enable gsync or reflex

[edgy laurel]

also you have vsync on in game. tsk tsk

[turbid locust]

supposed to

[livid flame]

I want DDR6… to push down the price of DDR5

[edgy laurel]

in game? driver level yeah

[pure garnet]

i hope ddr6 moves 2x32 to single rank as the normal configuration

[livid flame]

Imagine all the e-waste DDR5 server memory when DDR6 comes out

[topaz veldt]

Still getting $125-175/DIMM for DDR4 ECC

[livid flame]

Going to be mountains of it.

[young void]

It'll take awhile for it all to be adopted and stabilized but ye

[turbid locust]

hmmmmm I will re-read the Reddit thread but I swore it says vsync + gsync + reflex in every game that has em

[shell void]

we’ll be seeing 64GB single rank udimms with ddr6 if it doubles capacity like usual

[steel stream]

that's so nuts, I can't believe that. Actual gold bars at this point

[livid flame]

We could sit with DDR5 for another 5 years tbh

[young void]

I snagged 64gb for 430 the other day wasnt stoked but like best deal i could find

[livid flame]

Commercially DDR6 doesn’t make sense given the big boom in DDR5 supply outstripping demand

[steel stream]

do you know when to use "reflex + boost"?

[livid flame]

So we can wait

[steel stream]

or just keep it on normal reflex and forget it

[livid flame]

Sorry demand outstripping supply*

[turbid locust]

[pure garnet]

probably never since it just locks gpu clock

[steel stream]

hmm

good to know

[shell void]

it’s just entirely unnecessary too, like snail said businesses are just now starting to buy 8000MT/s MRDIMMs, and 12800MT/s MRDIMMs are planned for next gen platforms

there’s a lot of growing room left in ddr5

[livid flame]

So what we saying, 2030/31?

At the earliest?

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/future-squidward-spongebob-gif-4767609

[edgy laurel]

iirc boost is meant to be some sort of enforcement for keeping GPU clockspeeds up when CPU bound. boost specifically, that is

[livid flame]

My DDR5 just gotta live as long as it can

[steel stream]

ok i gotta stop using that then

[edgy laurel]

If GPU bound, it probably isn't doing a whole lot

[steel stream]

yeah

[devout ridge]

It’s here!

[shell void]

assuming zen 7 stays on am5 and intels next platform has three generations then yes 2030 for the first ddr6 consumer platform

[steel stream]

huge news for the program

[topaz veldt]

I had some DDR3 in my basement I was going to through out and got $30/DIMM for it

[wraith steeple]

[pure garnet]

team lift

[livid flame]

Great name

[edgy laurel]

first time joining OLED gang?

[steel stream]

this is why it's important to keep every single piece of tech you buy, you never know what'll happen

[devout ridge]

it has one of those stickers on literally every side

[shell void]

badass

[devout ridge]

first time joining the 4k, oled, and 240hz gang

[steel stream]

6x team lift

[young void]

Tc2 oled crew grows

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-pack-hangover-gif-27284470

[edgy laurel]

game changer. that'll be one sharp display

[shell void]

4k oled life is good

[steel stream]

Guilty spark started a revolution

[devout ridge]

Ik, i am so excited

[turbid locust]

is there a good way to mass reconfigure all this because I’ve definitely been running vsync on in game for like months lmao

[edgy laurel]

just set vsync at the global level in nvapp, the disable in each game. actually, nvapp may even let you disable the in game setting from in there

[turbid locust]

[edgy laurel]

the section where you can "optimize". that lets you adjust each option on its own right? i can't recall

and I can't test atm

The past two-three weeks I've been a fly on the wall with the RenoDX, ReLimiter, DisplayCommander and ReShade dev's talk shop and my head is about to explode.

[steel stream]

If using HDR just remember to use the “Windows HDR calibration” from the Microsoft store

[edgy laurel]

oh, good bookmark @steel stream https://www.hdrmods.com/

[turbid locust]

this reminds me I need to redo mine now that I reinstalled windows

[steel stream]

Noted

[brisk jolt]

TEAM LIFT

[turbid locust]

but yeah guilty I caved are you happy

I’m on regular ol boring windows with a buncha junk

[steel stream]

I like that cyberpunk has its own section

[steel stream]

Did you have to reinstall windows for proper performance?

[edgy laurel]

dude is a wild 'game photographer'.

[young void]

My lady's laptop opens up Bing search locations upon boot sighs "what the frigg"

[turbid locust]

for Gsync to work in one specific game while in windowed fullscreen yes

[steel stream]

Holy shit lol

[viral iron]

Nice bro how much?

[steel stream]

This is a ton of information I’ll have to read later, good find

Like how they say do not use your phone for hdr screenshots lol

[edgy laurel]

the amount of people trying to show off what they see by taking a picture and posting it

[turbid locust]

I’m borderline manic when it comes to wanting a specific configuration

[edgy laurel]

it needs to be said

[turbid locust]

ALL THIS just to try 4:3 in CS and probably not even stay on it

2880x2160 is quite based tho

[steel stream]

Nah it’s valid, it’s just funny that you have to use normal windows

[turbid locust]

yeah I’m gonna make ChatGPT or some bullshit make a PowerShell script to nuke the bullshit

because this pisses me off more than anything

[pure garnet]

why did cs2 make you reinstall

[turbid locust]

Gsync would not work in Windowed Fullscreen on IoT LTSC

Normal 11 Pro it worked instantly

[pure garnet]

in every game or valves game

[turbid locust]

Only CS2

[pure garnet]

sounds like the cs2 i remember

[steel stream]

Grok please debloat my computer

[pure garnet]

i googled copilot and gemini came up, google playing games

[livid flame]

Beautiful. That’s the windows we love

[steel stream]

Worst part of reinstalling is the white color theme and that background

[turbid locust]

yeah

but like anyways fuck advertisements in start menu

[livid flame]

Who remembers this awful taskbar?

[turbid locust]

Windows 8 was fine and I’m tired of pretending it wasn’t

[steel stream]

Wdym you don’t want the LinkedIn shortcut?

[spiral quarry]

Ah yess the fresh install screen I absolutely hate

[livid flame]

Windows 8 is the only one I’ve had to heavily modify

[steel stream]

God I hate LinkedIn

[turbid locust]

with that being said I was CONSTANTLY in desktop mode pretending it was windows 7

[pure garnet]

unless you can fully purge phone link i will stay on ltsc

[devout ridge]

i might have messed up

[steel stream]

Oh no

[devout ridge]

blacks just don't feel black anymore on my IPS compared to the OLED

[steel stream]

Oh

[livid flame]

Windows 8.1 was slightly better. Do not forget the difference between those 2

[devout ridge]

the OLED is too good, i've ruined it for myself

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-tiger-woods-big-dog-salutation-what-up-gif-2478767235926945002

[pure garnet]

sounds like you need a second oled

[steel stream]

Yeah common oled side effect

[devout ridge]

i can never go back, i need another OLED

[pure garnet]

i still need to get an oled eventually

[devout ridge]

i do need a new stand though, my monitors are currently two different heights and i can't change it cause of my mount

[steel stream]

I thought this dude had drivers? How’d he get a dui

[livid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/slide-drift-crash-fail-gif-16909243

[pure garnet]

not in a rush on account i’ve had vscode up all morning and forgot to sleep my pc to get up and eat

[devout ridge]

do it, words cannot describe how beautiful this is

[steel stream]

I thought you had an oled monitor

[pure garnet]

no i have 2 lcds

[steel stream]

Oh damn, living in the Neolithic era

[spiral quarry]

What stand do you have?

[pure garnet]

it’s on the list of things to buy but it hasn’t been very high on the list

[devout ridge]

some shitty one from amazon like this

[steel stream]

Quite the pretty penny so understandable

[devout ridge]

I can't independently adjust height

[spiral quarry]

oh those

[edgy laurel]

i hate these. i need the gas-assist type

[steel stream]

We’re not talking about Pokémon? What’s this about gas type

[pure garnet]

it’s more every time i’ve tried oled in stores i just feel like it’s not a colossal difference to me

like going from 1440p -> 4k was immediately apparent in ppi and image quality

but just scrolling around on the pg32 whatever blah blah was like “yep it’s a monitor”

[viral iron]

How much was it?

[devout ridge]

650usd

[steel stream]

$1000

[viral iron]

Nice

[steel stream]

He lies

[devout ridge]

my bank statement says otherwise

[steel stream]

Mail in rebate

[spiral quarry]

I got a stacked one but I had to do this to prevent my 32in from drooping

[viral iron]

wtf

Just get gas piston one arm monitor mount

They’re only like $70

[spiral quarry]

I have one too

[steel stream]

IMO if you aren’t spending 2K on an OLED you didn’t buy a good one

[pure garnet]

honestly akn the only display of mine i want gone is my 1440p side monitor

[spiral quarry]

my monitor wouldn't hold

[pure garnet]

because it looks like buns ppi wise

[viral iron]

What was the weight limit on the gas

[spiral quarry]

anything it is on is like the arm being held at gun point.

[steel stream]

What’s the cheapest 4K monitor you could get? They’ve got to be decently cheap now right

[spiral quarry]

tbf I run 4 monitors so I would need a whole new arm to run all 4

[viral iron]

Ye

[pure garnet]

i mean a 4k60 is probably cheap

[devout ridge]

blacks really just don't feel black on IPS anymore

[pure garnet]

the xg27ugc was 350 i think

[spiral quarry]

Which atm I don't want a new arm since I plan to switch to OLED soon

Cause ya'll got me hooked

[patent gorge]

same, I got OLED next to IPS, and the IPS feels like a flashlight when both are showing a black screen

[pure garnet]

iroh you gotta find the worst ips panel you can find to take the exaggerated black screen picture

[steel stream]

Obligatory photo

[turbid locust]

I really gotta stop commenting in normie places about tech and video games

[steel stream]

They just don’t understand

[devout ridge]

lemme go find one of my shitty 27" samsung TVs

[turbid locust]

“Borderlands 4 runs like shit”
“Just cause you don’t have the hardware doesn’t mean it’s bad”
“insert specs”
“Well I get 300-400 fps on my 5070Ti”

They just… they just don’t understand

[pure garnet]

5090 is weak compared to the 5070ti ceo edition

[devout ridge]

look at it

[turbid locust]

mfs will turn on 4x MFG and be like “yeah this is good”

[pure garnet]

how did you get purple ips glow

worlds first qd-ips panel

[devout ridge]

i don't even know

[pure garnet]

wednesday cannot come soon enough these skates are so bad

[merry stirrup]

i hate everything

good morning

[pure garnet]

good morning mr floppa

[topaz veldt]

Its funny because it was fine. So was Vista. I enjoyed Vista for a long time.

[devout ridge]

Oh. My. God.

Cyberpunk is beautiful

[topaz veldt]

on which display

[turbid locust]

The IPS one not the OLED

[topaz veldt]

I dunno which OLED they ahve

[devout ridge]

MO27U2

[topaz veldt]

damn why i sit so cheap

[devout ridge]

don't know, but it's amazing

[topaz veldt]

like in the $500s from BH

Nice

I am torn on 27" 4K being too small or not

[devout ridge]

At the depth of my desk, 27" is great

[steel stream]

The ppi and clarity from 27” 4K is so nice

[devout ridge]

literal inches from the screen i can barely make out the pixels

i could genuinely never go back

[steel stream]

Is it unethical to eat a bell pepper like an apple

[devout ridge]

no

[patent gorge]

my problem with 27" 4K is I need 150% scaling for that

[devout ridge]

how is that a problem

[patent gorge]

because turning 1 pixel into 1.5 pixels isn't a straightforward thing

[devout ridge]

just enabled HDR, how does it get even better

[pure garnet]

every screenshot from iroh will now be unreadable

[steel stream]

HDR calibration tool 🙏

[devout ridge]

I will be 100% insufferable from now on

[patent gorge]

I've never run HDR on desktop

[devout ridge]

Just stock windows enabling HDR is beautiful

[topaz veldt]

yah I just worry it'll be like Adobe apps on 4K/5K small displays where I can't see shit

[patent gorge]

as in, for desktop UI. I have run it in games and for video players (my video player automatically switches on windows HDR for that if I open an HDR video)

[topaz veldt]

I do that but I rip the core out

[devout ridge]

This is the best purchase i have made in years

[topaz veldt]

@turbid locust have you seen this

[devout ridge]

I wish i upgraded sooner

Literally my only regret is not buying it sooner

[topaz veldt]

Thats how I was w/ my 321URX

[patent gorge]

I wonder what my next "wish I did it sooner" upgrade is

[topaz veldt]

9950X3D2

[devout ridge]

This is my first time at 4k, and my first time with OLED

[topaz veldt]

oh shit you must be like... blown away

[devout ridge]

Very

Words cannot describe the pure joy i feel

[topaz veldt]

OK thats more like when I tried VR for the first time

Had never done any VR at all, bought a Vive 1 Pro or whatever

[steel stream]

Yeah can’t say, not familiar with adobe apps

[patent gorge]

my issue with VR is I need to rearrange furniture every time to do it

[topaz veldt]

yeah I designed my office just for it

[shell void]

welcome to modern display technology brother

no more edge lit low resolution lcd garbage

[devout ridge]

i.... i love it

[topaz veldt]

Never had Micro LED?

[devout ridge]

Nope

went from IPS straight to QD-OLED

[patent gorge]

uhh

micro LED isn't really widely available yet, did you mean mini led

[topaz veldt]

sorry mini led

[brisk jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055103856465428532/1489108393493921843/image0.gif

[devout ridge]

like i am actually blown away, there is no comparison

[steel stream]

that don't look like joy to me tbh

[devout ridge]

This feels like looking at my phone vs a first gen ipod

[brisk jolt]

nah it is

[warm gate]

bruh

[devout ridge]

Reminder that statements like that are rarely 100% correct all of the time

expect a margin of error

[warm gate]

i know

still, bruh.

[patent gorge]

maybe because it was 3 days since you submitted it, but not 3 days since your submission was approved yet? 🤔

[young void]

I locked down a 9950x3d for 529 myte resell when the 3d2 drops, if i can find a 200$ or so diffrence on a used one

[warm gate]

it was approved like 10 minutes after submitting

[patent gorge]

well then check in 10 minutes

also are you sure the "3 days ago" isn't rounded up from like 70 hours or something

[warm gate]

it's funny that one of my friends had to print out his school details cause his picture was unclear while i used my webcam pointed at my phone which was also super reflective and they accepted it

crazy tbh

[young void]

My goofy self just realized its easier to sell parts then a whole pc

[warm gate]

probably, still bruh.

[devout ridge]

only problem is i shattered my toenail whilst unpackaging the monitor

[warm gate]

oof.

[devout ridge]

the excitement has worn off enough for me to now realize i am in immense pain

[warm gate]

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/chainsaw-doctor-spongebob-squarepants-gif-17900542

You know what must be done

[wraith steeple]

Iroh has joined the Mile High OLED Club

[steel stream]

the monitor high has worn off

[brisk jolt]

he is now free of the outdated dinosaur age 1440p

[devout ridge]

my toe is now sending piercing pain up through my foot

[steel stream]

just keep playing different games to keep the high going

[young void]

Ibuprofen×2 and Tylenol ×2

[wraith steeple]

Waiting for my OSSC to arrive

[young void]

And maybe some ice

Can elevate it to try and reduce inflammation/swelling

[turbid locust]

No lol

[patent gorge]

I wonder if foot in a bucket of ice water is a good idea or not

[young void]

Can but cold

[patent gorge]

I've sometimes done that simply because my feet are too hot

[cosmic gazelle]

do we think the 550 ti has the api support to boot rdr2

it has the horsepower for 720p lowest

[steel stream]

only one way to find out

[topaz veldt]

super nice

[young void]

This is kinda sickk, up in Portland but a solid deal to play with intel

[wraith steeple]

That and muh AV.IO HD capture. I should test this in FP VC to see how well it works with streming my old PCs. Will play Hover! and 3D Pinball Space Cadet. Also perhaps Duke 3D, Doom, Hexen, or Blood depending on turnout rate

[smoky orbit]

niceyyyyyyyy

[green marsh]

@topaz veldt tried Qwen3.5-122B-A10B in Q4 quant; with 2x 1080 Ti and 128GB DDR4-2800 the token generation is ironically on par with 27B, but prompt processing is so much worse due the system RAM. What took to 1m5s to process with 27B (fully in GPU VRAM) took nearly 4 minutes with 122B-A10B. But on other side it is still faster than similar models on Mac Mini M4 😄

[topaz veldt]

Yah when you start to seep into system RAM its a slow roll. That was a non Pro Mac mini m4 right

[devout ridge]

reorganized the rack

[warm gate]

thats a nice looking rack right there

[brave panther]

show side

[green marsh]

yeah, base 24GB. And it was just about ability to use the model, as it is MoE, so the penalty is not as high. But my 22GB VRAM setup might be too low. Will test it again later when i will get my pair of 5070 Ti's. Worst case scenario i return to Qwen3.5-27B i used until now.

I mean 90GB/s or so via RAM is not that horrible, for example a model for some automation could easily do with slow speeds via CPU

[devout ridge]

no

we don't have to talk about the back fat

[topaz veldt]

Are you able to provide me the runbook so I can try on my M4 Pro?

[bright wasp]

fast how much gtx 1060 6 gb asus rog white edition woud be worth

[merry stirrup]

40$

[topaz veldt]

$48

[merry stirrup]

🤝

[bright wasp]

bit litle

[merry stirrup]

it’s 8 years old

that’s what it’s worth gang

[bright wasp]

ok

[low sorrel]

How

[devout ridge]

stub toe hard on crownmoulding

[bright wasp]

butt its rog ad white one in 150

[topaz veldt]

fine $46 final offer

[low sorrel]

July 2016

Almost 10 actually

[devout ridge]

i mean this is the nicest way possible, no one cares

people cared 7-8 years ago, they really truly don't care anymore

[bright wasp]

alrg ro

[devout ridge]

what

[smoky orbit]

No one knows

[bright wasp]

its like this but white

worth upgrading from gtx 1060 to gtx 1080 ti

[devout ridge]

People are upgrading from the 1080ti, not to it

Blade runner 2049 in 4k blueray quality on the OLED, it's beautiful

[bright wasp]

dawg how about 3060 12 gb

[steel stream]

now you just need proper atmos

[bright wasp]

it cost same

[devout ridge]

1080ti beats out the 3060 12gb

My god, 4k blueray quality movies on an OLED are just fucking beautiful

[bright wasp]

fuck then wat

[devout ridge]

Maybe something from this decade?

[smoky orbit]

4060, 5060 (and their amd equivalents) are the cheapest safest bets

[devout ridge]

well the 3060 is from this decade, but whatever

my brother in christ, there is still 40 series

[bright wasp]

4060 is somethin

i need mc beater

[devout ridge]

it doesn't jump straight from the 10 series, to 30 series, to 50 series

[bright wasp]

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh

[devout ridge]

i love movies that take full advantage of darkness

i hate modern movies that only have bright, evenly lit shots

[bright wasp]

ok im buyng rom ebay rtx 6090 fo 45 bucks

[smoky orbit]

Huh? Who said that?

[devout ridge]

beautiful (glare isn’t there when i sit normally)

[green marsh]

runbook ? On Mac i just installed LM Studio, grabbed a Qwen3.5-35B-A3B Q4 quant (or Qwen3.5-27B in Q4 quant), loaded the model with 100k context and used a coding asistant configured towards it. For example OpenCode or claude code (https://lmstudio.ai/blog/claudecode). And then just prompt it to do something, and it will send a ~20k prompt just by existing 😄

[devout ridge]

the contrast of the darkest darks and the highlights, oh my god!

You all will have to deal with me raving about this monitor for the foreseeable future

I have a gas assisted monitor arm coming tomorrow to fix this abysmal monitor mounting situation

I promise i'm not leaving it like this, but there was no way in hell i was waiting till tmr to use this monitor

[brisk jolt]

feel free to glaze it as long as you want

[low sorrel]

It just monitor

[devout ridge]

do you have an OLED?

[steel stream]

no he does not

Jerry is poor and has a miniled

[devout ridge]

then i care not of your opinion

[low sorrel]

I've totally not stolen my brothers OLED ultrawidebwhile he's in the US

Nooo

I would never

[devout ridge]

I'm so happy to see it has the ability to dim when the screen isn't in use

i walked away to make oatmeal and it dimmed

[merry stirrup]

it’s like the same + dlss

[topaz veldt]

OK cool I can test

[devout ridge]

the same argument NVIDIA made to compare the 5070 to the 4090

[green marsh]

and for Qwen3.5-122B-A10B, it is same, just a different model. The Q4 quant is over 60GB tho 😄

[devout ridge]

i rebuilt my OG NAS just so i could have 4k blueray video to play on the OLED

hence the update on the rack

[merry stirrup]

i’m not saying it’s the same with dlss

i’m saying it’s the same performance and it has dlss. if you pick a 1080ti over even a 2070 super you really made the wrong choice

[green marsh]

i usually use unsloth GGUF quants, but those might be slower on Mac (they like their MLX format) - i used these
https://huggingface.co/unsloth/Qwen3.5-122B-A10B-GGUF UD-IQ4_NL
https://huggingface.co/unsloth/Qwen3.5-27B-GGUF IQ4_NL
https://huggingface.co/unsloth/Qwen3.5-35B-A3B-GGUF UD-IQ4_NL

[pure garnet]

it's the same raster perf but also has dlss

[green marsh]

M4 Pro should be probably on par with AI Max 395+ based on memory bandwidth

[brisk jolt]

jerry with his 3060 at DLSS performance is like his shitbox requesting for more power

[steel stream]

guys I'm supposed to be working but I've been playing cool math games

[sullen rivet]

How good is a 3080 today

[devout ridge]

about as good as a 3080

[sullen rivet]

Wow

[pure garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-pod-racing-explosion-gif-7400229476380970535

[brisk jolt]

its faster than a 3070/3070ti but slower than a 3080ti/3090

[sullen rivet]

Crap can it run basic 1440p 120hz or 4k

[steel stream]

1440p 120Hz yeah probably

[devout ridge]

on the desktop, yeah

[low sorrel]

yeah and?

[steel stream]

4K might be a bit of a challenge

[low sorrel]

no

[sullen rivet]

Alr

[low sorrel]

it'll be fineeeee

[steel stream]

go back to playing your pixel art

[devout ridge]

4k desktop is pretty easy, especially with no stated framerate

[smoky orbit]

It’s like plouffe’s car before it was upgraded

[steel stream]

Jacksepticeye is making a bloodborne movie? what?

[sullen rivet]

I know someone with a 3080 I wanted to know the limits arc runs 4k at like 30 to 40 fps

[brisk jolt]

yeah it has dp1.4 and hdmi 2.1

[low sorrel]

im running arc at 60fps with dlss performance fwiw

[sullen rivet]

Dlss off

[low sorrel]

no no no it's like

[brisk jolt]

thats one steep slope

[low sorrel]

ew

[steel stream]

if you're not running DLSS at 4K you're playing games wrong

[low sorrel]

arc raiders taa implemention sucks

[topaz veldt]

lol bro

[sullen rivet]

It's not my choice

[brisk jolt]

who let jerry enter the 24 hours of lemans with his miata having less power than a prius

[sullen rivet]

It's not my pc it's an r12 btw

[devout ridge]

let me in the 24 hours of lemans with my stock ford fusion

[smoky orbit]

Ohhhh yeeesssssss

[low sorrel]

hey they wouldn't let me drive a pirus because it has more power

[devout ridge]

i can win, i promise

[steel stream]

idk what an r12 is

[brisk jolt]

the robot vacuum is faster

[sullen rivet]

It's an alienware spaceship

[low sorrel]

ew

[brisk jolt]

it only requires you to cut 90% of the track every lap

[sullen rivet]

I didn't say it looked good

[smoky orbit]

Please for the love of everything that ever existed, that exists and that will ever exist don’t buy this shit

[steel stream]

quite the computer

[low sorrel]

@wise bear i've been asking in a another server about the hotas and they keep hammering me about import fees

[brisk jolt]

it doesnt look good at all but its gpu is still a spaceship compared to jerry’s lawnmower

[low sorrel]

i really wanna be smug and be like im canadian i don't have those for these products

[sullen rivet]

Not mine and he's had it and yeah I agree

[smoky orbit]

You don’t want to be stuck with a proprietary motherboard, case and psu and cooler

[brisk jolt]

consider donating it to the ewaste centers they might be able to extract raw materials from it

[sullen rivet]

I say case swap and mobile and psu replacement

[smoky orbit]

Be smug, assume our government’s superiority in terms of being less dumb

[brisk jolt]

WTF chipi chapa cat was 3 years ago

[sullen rivet]

Iam pretty sure is radioactive

[steel stream]

https://videocardz.com/newz/dlss-enabler-adds-x5-and-x6-multi-frame-generation-modes-for-unsupported-gpus-including-rtx-40-series

[low sorrel]

when frame gen on 30 series

[smoky orbit]

Yeah, but that cost a lot, if the person has already bought it they should do this but if they are considering buying one, they shouldn’t (also need a new cpu cooler)

[low sorrel]

i needs it

[brisk jolt]

input latency of 2 business days

[sullen rivet]

He has it for like 4 years and no just use the money and buy an aio

[sullen rivet]

Most likely 3

[topaz veldt]

wait wtf ethernet speed does a mac mini m4 pro have

oh lol nm nm nm

[smoky orbit]

The cpu cooler in the dell can’t be used in another case

[sullen rivet]

10gb

[topaz veldt]

no

1 Gbps by default but I forgot I installed this

getting 2.0 - 2.5 Gbps and I was like how is that possible

[sullen rivet]

I just looked the thing up

[topaz veldt]

you can optionally get 10 gbps

[sullen rivet]

Ah alr

[devout ridge]

AT&T is back again laying fiber in my neighborhood, They've made it to my cul de sac, so hopefully i'll be getting AT&T gigabit fiber soon!

[sullen rivet]

I know I mean buy a new one

[smoky orbit]

Ohhh oki

[topaz veldt]

maybe they'll have less outages than our backup connections

[devout ridge]

huge upgrade from my 450/30 down/up that i have right now

[topaz veldt]

what's the over/under on this working

[devout ridge]

My main concern was the upload speed, 30mbps is just painful

[sullen rivet]

Good

[devout ridge]

Yes

[steel stream]

brutal

[topaz veldt]

lol nope

[sullen rivet]

Dude I need a new router spectrum had a 1gb witch is paid for my average is like 500mb on there dumb extenders

[devout ridge]

Do you have a 1gb connection, or is it just a gigabit router

[sullen rivet]

Oh upload is like 30 to 50 average

[sullen rivet]

Both

[devout ridge]

Yeah spectrum doesn't offer symmetrical 99% of the time

I have spectrum myself, and i peak at 30mbps

[topaz veldt]

Ha well it'd help if it was plugged into the 5 Gbps / 10 Gbps switch....

[sullen rivet]

Is cable sometimes fiber for business

[shell void]

do you have the gig plan? it’s supposed to be 40-45Mbps peak if you’re not on high split yet

[devout ridge]

Nah only 400mbps plan

[shell void]

ah

[devout ridge]

i actually pretty often get 500mbps down though, so i'll take it

AT&T is offering gigabit symmetrical for 20usd less per month

rn spectrum is 85usd/month, at&t would be 65

[sullen rivet]

They don't offer there fiber where I live it's dumb because I live in sa

[smoky orbit]

We have 500 for around 60 CAD, your plan is pricey af

[shell void]

yeah spectrum is usually very expensive because they’ll often be the only wired ISP option

[sullen rivet]

That's us inflation for you

[smoky orbit]

Only wired isp option?? Huh? The others are satellite or something?

[shell void]

yes spectrum has a total monopoly on wired internet in many areas of the usa

[sullen rivet]

I have a friend that went from like a 1gb plan that was amazing to freaking starlink

[shell void]

with there not being any other realistic options until 5g home and starlink came around

[smoky orbit]

Fuck that shit

[warm gate]

i have 2gbit, house phone and tv for ~55 euro

[shell void]

i did similar

i switched from spectrum 1000/40 to verizon 5g home that’s only 300/20 because it costs 1/3 as much and is more reliable

[smoky orbit]

Nicey (euro is more valuable than cad tho)

[warm gate]

89,32

but i have tv and phone so thats actually quite good

[sullen rivet]

He also did Verizon it was like 15 average

[shell void]

15mbps? brutal

[smoky orbit]

Damn I would kill myself, I need to be able to open and route ports

[smoky orbit]

Ohhh nicey

[shell void]

i get like 450/50 peak in speed tests but they throttle it to 300/20

[smoky orbit]

For different reasons (mostly server stuff)

[sullen rivet]

Darn on Verizon

[shell void]

they give you a public ipv4 and it only changes a couple times per year

[smoky orbit]

Yeah but you still can’t open ports on 5g

Nor starlink

*can’t

[warm gate]

for 30 bucks extra i could get 8gbit

but all my devices over ethernet are limited to 1gig

[sullen rivet]

Well if you game and hot the money that a good deal

[warm gate]

2gbit is more than good enough for a home "datacenter" and 7 people

[smoky orbit]

Yeah, not worth the upgrade unless you also upgrade those

[shell void]

you can

[warm gate]

there's not much of a benefit for upgrading past 1gbit per device

[shell void]

you get a public mostly static ipv4, they allow port forwarding, and you can even put the gateway in ip passthrough mode

[sullen rivet]

Brother I have one and that get hammered by 5 people doing 3 devices each because we all do mutilate things at once

[smoky orbit]

You’re 100% sure? For normal house consumer plans?

[warm gate]

i've never seen speeds slow down in my house

[shell void]

verizon 5g home you can yes

tmobile you can’t because they use cgnat

and don’t allow ip pass through

[warm gate]

even while downloading a steam game, downloading the newest apt packages for 2 of my debian servers at the same time and doing a speedtest

[smoky orbit]

Yeah, they must the only ones cause it’s more expensive doing it this way, cgna is way cheaper

[sullen rivet]

Well good but my family is using two or more at a time and I use 3 or 4 tv arc raiders laptop 3d printer and my phone I've used at the same time multiple times

[smoky orbit]

Cgna is the ban of my existence, im so sorry to all people who’s isp uses cgna

[shell void]

i mean i don’t like having 5g internet because 20Mbps upload is abhorrent

[warm gate]

oh.

[shell void]

but that’s just how it is for now

[shell void]

i think it makes sense to use it by default because most customers are drones

i don’t care as long as they allow you to request and pay for an IP

[brave panther]

https://tenor.com/view/skinny-homer-homer-back-fat-homer-simpson-gif-25749447

[smoky orbit]

Yeah, but then you have to fight to get an actual public ip address, especially in Europe, my gf has to go back to Belgium and we’re currently trying to get her isp to give her a fix public ipv4 cause she’ll need it for server stuff

[warm gate]

time to go update my brew once again

[smoky orbit]

It’s hell

[topaz veldt]

aww yeah

[wraith steeple]

5G?

[topaz veldt]

internal

[round flint]

should i get 9070xt or rtx 5070 dying to select one on one hand rtx got so many perks but 9070xt got more power and fps

[topaz veldt]

5070

[round flint]

why tho?

[topaz veldt]

DLSS > FSR

[atomic verge]

id rather take better rasterization performance

[topaz veldt]

I had a 9070 XT for some time

It was comparable to my 7900 XTX in some games.... but others, very not

I think I'd rather have DLSS w/ mfg

[round flint]

its like i am able to find 9070xt and 5070 at same price

[topaz veldt]

like so?

[topaz veldt]

the 9070 XT is nice because it has 16GB of VRAM but the performance it offers you won't really be able to use it

[round flint]

i am using linux

so is it going to be a trouble or is it stable

[smoky orbit]

Take and then

[green marsh]

yes, for example

[green marsh]

wait, loading model ? no

[topaz veldt]

then where are you specifying

[green marsh]

here press Load Model button. On next screen click on show advanced settings if you want, but context length is up there on a slider, then press Load Model

[topaz veldt]

yeah same thing - just presetting it

[hoary hatch]

Holy shit

Gmail mobile app finally allows you to create new labels

[topaz veldt]

oh wait

wrong model

[green marsh]

yeah, gemma wants more RAM for context too, either switch model or drop context lower. 65k is doable still for some tasks

[topaz veldt]

Swore I got Qwen 35B but I don'

don't use this system often

[nova patrol]

ai

[pallid marsh]

Same raytracing performance but the xt has 5070ti level raster