tech-chat-2

[merry stirrup]

i don’t even have a use for everything i’m buying from you rn i won’t lie

[pure garnet]

same

[merry stirrup]

fire

7800x3d is going in moms rig

[merry stirrup]

i’ll probably give her a different board she does NOT need mpower

12900KS will probably be server after i bench it

[pure garnet]

yeah she does

that chip does 8000 all day but it doesn't do 6400 1:1

[smoky orbit]

daaaaaammmnnn

https://youtu.be/pQ0MsGP1nK4?si=lC6qFp9XWBeQYJY-

[young void]

22-28m starts being more floppa level

But shall return if the end result is something we myte be able to play with or see coming in the future or if just a for funsies

[shell void]

@brisk jolt the chosen one

[merry stirrup]

💀😭

[smoky orbit]

It's 738 USD and you have to import it tho (if you're outside of asia) || @brisk jolt ||

[turbid locust]

all z890 stuff pending sale

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-evil-evil-laugh-gif-10865501938883882879

[pure garnet]

just cleaned house of all the intel stuff?

[turbid locust]

ya

[pure garnet]

i just wanna mess with gpus for a bit

bored of ram/cpu stuff atm

[turbid locust]

Someone @ me when Intel puts out an IMC that doesn’t gaslight you 24/7

[pure garnet]

gonna do what i can on ambient then start soldering stuff to this 980ti

[merry stirrup]

someone @ me when mac fixes skill issue

[pure garnet]

says the flopper that blew up a 13900ks

[merry stirrup]

@turbid locust no binning fo today but i’ll let you know tomorrow

[turbid locust]

Gotchu

[merry stirrup]

honestly i should retest it cause i don’t put any effort in

if it got 7000 stable it’s probably fine enough though

[turbid locust]

Flops do you know what price you’re gonna be able to get away with?

[limpid tapir]

Remeber lads, it isnt the size that matters but rather how you use it

Or on a realer note thermal ability

[smoky orbit]

it's pretty ok apparently

(not the price tho)

[turbid locust]

you don’t have to say publicly lmao

[limpid tapir]

Oh thats pretty cool actually

[merry stirrup]

check dms lol

[pure garnet]

damn i wanna know

[limpid tapir]

Price for what

I'm nosey too

[smoky orbit]

yeah

[pure garnet]

might cop this to go along with my superstrike

[smoky orbit]

please do it's kinda really cool

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[limpid tapir]

Price for a yeah? A yeah from would be pretty cheap

Id say yes to anything for 20 dollars

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[pure garnet]

what surreal website did i find

[limpid tapir]

20 dollars is 20 dollars

[merry stirrup]

give me your computer i’ll give you 20$

[limpid tapir]

I'm1 1000% sure I have computers worth less than 20 dollars

I'm down to do it if you pay for postage

[merry stirrup]

your daily computer

[smoky orbit]

I have one basically worth nothing

[merry stirrup]

if it’s included in the initial 20$ i’m giving you sure

[limpid tapir]

No chance

[merry stirrup]

i hardly pay shipping to people will not lie

[limpid tapir]

Postage on top of the 20 bucks

[merry stirrup]

if it’s over 100$ i make @pure garnet pay it

[limpid tapir]

(I will scam you out of it after that but yeah)

[limpid tapir]

Ngl I reckon my daily computer is probably worth something in the range of 200-300 usd

[young void]

So she wrote code splitting the workload amongst channels thus making almost 9x less latency on the tail end. And that utuilising hugepages to more ram is good

[merry stirrup]

i do NOT want. it never mind

[limpid tapir]

Its a 6 year old laptop that was like 1100 dollars back then

[merry stirrup]

get me out

i hate laptops/mobile devices in general no lie

i mean if you buy one good on you but i don’t like them personally

[young void]

On small scales its not as noticeable but on large server scales its noice. And shes still cooking on it

[smoky orbit]

(an athlon 64 x2 system with the cheapest, worst psu I have lying around and a gt 710 (no case or a broken one))

[limpid tapir]

1200 including tax

[merry stirrup]

gt710 is worth quite a bit more than 20) if you have the right idiot buy it

[limpid tapir]

How come?

[merry stirrup]

the obscure devices in them generally get no software support

oh your fingerprint reader doesn’t support the next os? fuck you no update EVER

and so on

[limpid tapir]

I mean thats only the case if youre buying shit from weird ass companies

[limpid tapir]

Shouldnt be an issue if you stick to your reliable big names

[merry stirrup]

no dawg the weirdass companies be using the same shit

[smoky orbit]

wait, I have a worse card for it an ati radeon hd 3400

[merry stirrup]

these are issues i’ve had on big company laptops lol

[limpid tapir]

HP, Dell, Lenovo, MSI, Asus, Acer and all are pretty good with this stuff from what I see

Also especially if your hardware isnt the cheapest shit availably

[merry stirrup]

just don’t like them personally i avoid gaming on the go/using my phone as a device

[limpid tapir]

Fair fair

I mean I dont like the gaming on the go concept either

Dont game on PCs

(ps5 gamer)

[merry stirrup]

just meh devices that one generally overpays for a worse experience

[smoky orbit]

@merry stirrup want my ati radeon hd 3400?

[limpid tapir]

I just need a portable productivity machine

[merry stirrup]

my homie has a 3050 laptop he paid like 1200$ for and it’s already useless cause 4gb vram (although this is more on him)

[limpid tapir]

Was a student and still am so the lack of portability on a desktop machine is a dealbreaker for me

[merry stirrup]

but he can’t play any modern games already, which blows

[limpid tapir]

Nah see thats the thing

It completely depends on you being an informed consumer

[turbid locust]

Forza Horizon 6 looks cool af

[merry stirrup]

well that’s my problem lol

most people buying portable gaming devices are not informed

[limpid tapir]

There are peopple who were buying 1650s as recently as 2 years ago even for PCs

[merry stirrup]

i’d be fine buying a thin and lite for myself but gaming laptops always suck even the expensive ones

[limpid tapir]

Which is just abjectly stupid

[merry stirrup]

is this japan?

[limpid tapir]

oh 100% agreed. I would never purchase a gaming laptop

[turbid locust]

Yeah

[merry stirrup]

oh okie

[limpid tapir]

Only ever bought ultrabooks and will only ever buy those

Or thin and lights as we call em now

[merry stirrup]

i have a idea pad thing or something

it’s old i got it for 150$ cause i didn’t want to use school chromebook 3 years ago

it still works, shockingly, although has seen better days for sure

[limpid tapir]

If you want to game, get a console or a PC. A gaming laptop is literally only acceptable if you have to buy a single machine to do everything on

[merry stirrup]

8250u and 1050 4g, goated

[merry stirrup]

realest and even then i’d just not game as much if i had to subject myself to a laptop i will not lie

[spiral quarry]

Lol my friend got a Lenovo Legion 9i recently to replace his overheating/dying razer laptop.

[limpid tapir]

Decent good laptops are pretty easy to come by when looking for normal productivity machines

[merry stirrup]

i don’t get the “i can only buy a laptop” argument in almost every scenario i wont lie

“desktops are too big”

so get a smaller one it’s that simple

[limpid tapir]

Like I bought a i7-1065g7 coupled with an MX250 back in 2020 at the height of the laptop shortage because I needed it for online school

[spiral quarry]

Though Lenovo had the best fuck up. Originally he speced his with a 5070ti and 2tb ssd, but they shipped him a 5080/1tb model.

[merry stirrup]

if you need to take it places that’s cool but get 2 fuck it bro pc and laptop

you can budget for that in most modern gaming pc/laptop budgets

[limpid tapir]

Its most often that they need to take it places and cant afford to split between two machines

[limpid tapir]

Nah youre looking at it the wrong way

[merry stirrup]

i would literally rather spend 600$ on a gaming pc and 150$ on a laptop than just buy a laptop for 750

[limpid tapir]

These people can afford a basic laptop and are stretching to gaming

[merry stirrup]

that’s why i’m giving a basic laptop price

[limpid tapir]

I dont think you can get anything even okay for 150

[pure garnet]

scrapyard wars a desktop to parsec into

[merry stirrup]

if you have 500$ you can’t get anything new that will game well

[limpid tapir]

It would be a literal potato

[pure garnet]

you can get a decent thinkpad for 150 fine

[limpid tapir]

Second hand

[pure garnet]

so what

$150 for a computer is not a budget you get to have opinions with

[limpid tapir]

Mentality is usually to buy something new and run it ragged for 5+years

[limpid tapir]

Agreed

I didnt set that budget

[pure garnet]

well no you said you can't get anything okay for 150 but you can

you just can't walk into officemax and blindly pick something

[limpid tapir]

I'm just saying that personal preference aside. At a budget of like 750 usd someone would have a better experience with a singular laptop than to split that cash between a desktop and a laptop

[limpid tapir]

Fair enough, I should have specified I meant brand new

[merry stirrup]

brand new, consumers who don’t have much to spend get boned regardless

[pure garnet]

a cheap gaming laptop won't make it to the 5 year mark

[merry stirrup]

kind of a pick your poison scenario

[pure garnet]

but i know these have a 1080p panel standard

[limpid tapir]

True enough

[pure garnet]

so running one of these to parsec into a scrapyarded together $600 system would be pretty decent

[limpid tapir]

For someone super technologically literate sure

For most people absolutely not.

[pure garnet]

yes and people finance costco hot dogs with klarna that doesn't change much

[merry stirrup]

me fr

[pure garnet]

i can deadass go to apple rn and buy a phone case and pay 50 cents a month in installments

[merry stirrup]

50 cents for 20 years let’s go

[limpid tapir]

Yeah its objectively dumb that stuff

[pure garnet]

$5/mo for a year 🔥

[shell void]

"F U AMD"

gives them money anyway

[shell void]

who financin' da phone case??

[pure garnet]

one of my friends did for the bit

[limpid tapir]

Also ngl a lot of times when I'm lurking over on the Tech Side of the interest I cant help but be reminded of this image

Because like there are so many people to whom even simply digging into a settings menu is too much computer

[pure garnet]

i mean yeah any value conversation can be killed with “but think of the cavemen”

[limpid tapir]

Oh I am not saying that this stuff should end conversations

Just that as someone who while pretty interested in tech, hasnt had the opportunity to actually go out and play with much of it due to limited access, I find some things that are considered to be the norm to be pretty difficult to get at the beginning

[low sorrel]

The shit fuck 4 has taken off to save the crews of shitfuck 2 and 3 with lessons learned from the shitfuck 2 and 3 which includes having a crew capsule with a reaction wheel, having solar panels, having batteries and having RCS that uses monopropellent instead of liquid oxygen

[smoky orbit]

looks the lga 2011 system

[brave panther]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-buisness-gif-26885105

average user

[limpid tapir]

Yo how do you have cameras on me

[fervent chasm]

I accidentally found my cars ECU today

While changing the transmission mount

Pretty cool little thing

[trim agate]

There’s a running joke between me and a couple friends because I once said “yo it’s time to finance these $80 shoes”

[cosmic gazelle]

you won’t believe it @merry stirrup i’m pretty sure my trcdrd has to be 22 at 3400 😭

[fervent chasm]

Costco hotdog finance

[steel stream]

update: they blew up

[steel stream]

tech woven was not a replacement to the leather cases and wallets and it makes me sad

[brave panther]

5g chip is inside, pry it open and remove it

[merry stirrup]

garb

[low sorrel]

Eat it

Keychron posted all the cad parts and shit for their keyboards allowing you to make mods/parts for their keyboards

It is an non commercial license for it which is fair

[devout ridge]

any glaring issues with this transformer?

20:5 winds

[cosmic gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-donut-hungry-food-gif-8783495674105485839

[vestal granite]

you know, FSR 3.1 in crimson desert actually doesnt look that much worse than non-FSR cause the game already has fuzziness everywhere (because of how their engine does foliage n stuff, they have the same issue in black desert)

[low sorrel]

@edgy laurel when upgrade off LG c2

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/s/U8Go7vGUqy

[turbid locust]

Not worth if his C2 isn’t broken imo

[vestal granite]

ok yeah you know what yeah no i was wrong yeah its awful

[turbid locust]

C series hasn’t had any major changes since the C2

[trim agate]

Doesn’t look like Optimus prime

[low sorrel]

Update: I did not forget my heatshield

It was uhhh

A foamstrike

[topaz veldt]

I mean....

[devout ridge]

You mean....

[topaz veldt]

its fine

you gotta get yourself some smaller gauge and insulation wire

[devout ridge]

it's what i had on hand, and i got the ferrite cores for free

it cost me nothing for the transformer, if i wanna try doing it properly i absolutely will get smaller gauge wire

specifically enameled wire so it's thinner

[steel stream]

nah bro the +24Hz and +50 nits peak brightness is so worth it

[shell void]

i am up to issue #23 of invincible, 122 more to read

..plus the invincible universe compendium which is another 29 issues, and the backstory issues sprinkled in, and then the battle beast comic that’s currently being written

there is much peak left to consume

[wise bear]

It's.. a transformer

Oh ffs fuck you mobile discord

[vestal granite]

what car does it turn into

[brisk jolt]

everywhere ive looked its 900 usd

[vestal granite]

native AA makes this game playable

[topaz veldt]

Officially 8000 M/Ts on all of my 9950X3D builds

[wise bear]

no me, im the transformer

decepticon specifically

[vestal granite]

what car do you turn into

[wise bear]

n-

no pepe im making a trans joke

[vestal granite]

subaru baja?

me too

[wise bear]

but if I WERE a car it'd be a kitted out subie outback

[vestal granite]

modern transformers movie where they have to stop at a Tesla Supercharger outside a Sam's Club before battling megatron (megatron is a BYD car)

and then they have to contact tesla support because they hit a pothole and the car is in emergency service 5mph mode

[low sorrel]

NGL Peyton you need to pick a struggle ADHD, Autism and trans smh

Pick a struggle

[vestal granite]

and the camera cars cant follow the transformers properly because they keep slowing down and speeding up randomly to show off their 0-60 time so some scenes the car is too far behind and other scenes its too far forward

[teal orbit]

what kind like a recurring neural network

[wise bear]

nuh uh im good

[vestal granite]

and a fuckin NERD

go do a computers nerds

[turbid locust]

Just for them to all be obsolete on the 22nd

[vestal granite]

i just followed a cat for like 10 minutes this shit better have autosaved

[brisk jolt]

“500 9950X3D2s”

[topaz veldt]

Which fabric color?

[pure garnet]

i like the darker one personally

[low sorrel]

whats it for?

[devout ridge]

hopefully the people i work with can figure out these plans for shelves i need them to build

[low sorrel]

I like the lighter one imo

but you are getting color advice from a certified colorblind person

[topaz veldt]

patio furniture

[low sorrel]

I change my mind darker one

[turbid berry]

Can I throw 68 soundblaster 16's at a guy who is speeding in a school zone

[devout ridge]

no

[young void]

Either color will do cant decide whatever matches your brick best mayhaps

[final mica]

It sounds like you do care about what someone does with their money. That's fair, we all do to an extent especially to a public figure.

[brisk jolt]

being out a monitor for a week already is infuriating

[topaz veldt]

No I really don't

[young void]

How is snails?

[final mica]

I will say LTT is not a coop, it's not a charity and Linus is reasonable enough to buy a jet based on the reasons he stated in the video about the conditions of the contract and being able to recoup most of his money if he sells (if they're true)

[young void]

[topaz veldt]

You don't have to be a coop to still prefer better optics

[final mica]

True but optics shouldn't prevent him from buying the jet within reason (based on the parameters he provided)

[young void]

Im just jealous I dont have a jet

Can't go deploy a AI/hardware center somewhere with close to free/free electric

And give all the homies rides

Hate it hereee

kicks rocks

[final mica]

If I had a channel with 16mil subs I may consider buying a jet

[devout ridge]

has nothing to do with channel size, and everything to do with revenue

[young void]

If bro wants a jet I dont see why not, I trust he knows his funds

If snail got a jet I wouldn't be hating, just be glad hes got something neat

[devout ridge]

It's also not that Linus bought a jet, but rather LMG bought a jet

[final mica]

Yeah people here acting like they know LTT more than Linus himself. The delusion

[topaz veldt]

Its not just a channel with 16M subs, its a company with employees who have openly vented about very low pay and are leaving

[final mica]

I've seen the salaries of their employees. It ain't very low.

[topaz veldt]

Its asbolutely low

[final mica]

I live in Canada btw

[devout ridge]

Cost of living in their area is quite high

[young void]

This can be poops but ya know

[final mica]

I know and it ain't low

You guys expect everyone to make $150,000?

Delusional

[devout ridge]

Also i love Jakkuh's quote on this
(paraphrasing) "It's hard working on your boss's third house when you don't even know if you can afford one yourself"

[young void]

I make like 40k in low income apartments its alright. Im livin, make more then most in my area

[topaz veldt]

As someone who has worked for more years and most of this group is alive, seeing people bail because their income sucks, with the company saying, "Hey its all we got, we're competitive, sorry" and then buying people brand new macbooks... its optics. Its poor.

[final mica]

Well I agree on the poor optics. I don't agree on the low salaries. Tell me, the office is in Surrey, how much do you think the employees should be paid per year?

For a writer, a videographer etc

[topaz veldt]

When you have people quitting to do their own youtube channel it says everything you need to know

[young void]

My old jobs never gave me nothing

[final mica]

You guys know Surrey right or am I talking to a bunch of Americans who don't know the company at all

[young void]

A handful of times in lodging i did get a 10-20$ tip over 6ish years

[devout ridge]

We're more than aware where the company is based lol

[topaz veldt]

"a bunch of Americans" 🙄

[final mica]

They're quitting because they got enough publicity from being featured in LMG to get a headstart on their youtube channel

Not because they're getting paid minimum wage in LMG

Get it right

[topaz veldt]

you think 500k subscribers on youtube is going to replace a decent salary?

[devout ridge]

Do you think minimum wage is the only wage that is too low?

[final mica]

You think 500k subscribers is the end?

[young void]

If they can afford raises im sure they try upon request

[final mica]

Tell me then, how much should these people working in their Surrey office supposed to be paid? I'll wait.

[devout ridge]

You do know they have to pay rent in the meantime right?

[topaz veldt]

When you're paid what they're paid you're not sitting on a nest egg. If you can afford to quit and start a channel that is now, after a year or more, at 500k subs, you weren't making much

[young void]

As much as possible, id imagine

[final mica]

Tell me then, how much should these people working in their Surrey office supposed to be paid? I'll wait.

[devout ridge]

For someone like Jake, the average salary of an IT professional in Surrey, 70-90k (USD)

[final mica]

We're in Canada

You americans don't know anything

[young void]

This would be nice

[devout ridge]

Correct, hence why i used the average salary of an IT professional in Surrey BC

[final mica]

Give the salary in CAD. The office is in Surrey, British Columbia, Canada. Not in SF

[topaz veldt]

I searched you - you literally said, "I would make double my salary in the US" - I don't think we're the clueless ones

[final mica]

Give the salary in CAD. The office is in Surrey, British Columbia, Canada. Not in SF USA

[young void]

Im not sure how im in the crossfire ❤️

[devout ridge]

Not sure how a currency conversion changes much of anything

[young void]

Im just here, or what the original issue was

[final mica]

See you can't give a proper salary. Just bitching about people leaving LMG not knowing full context

Vague statements about how LMG doesn't properly pay their employees when you don't know anything about salaries in Canada

[young void]

I think you have feelings on the topic and a deep breath is best

[topaz veldt]

This from someone who thinks they'd make 200% of their income simply being in the US

[merry stirrup]

true

[devout ridge]

Again, how does a currency conversion equal "not giving a proper salary"

[topaz veldt]

Its also not about "proper salary"

[devout ridge]

Also,

Correct, hence why i used the average salary of an IT professional in Surrey BC

[topaz veldt]

its about LMG employees making $45-62k and the owner buying a jet

[devout ridge]

Reading is hard, I know

And a third house

[merry stirrup]

hurrr you’re american and im not therefore we must hate each other and make back handed insults about how x country is more uneducated than x

[topaz veldt]

When your company is called Merck or Pfizer you can do that

[devout ridge]

When the price of a private jet is a small enough percent of your revenue for it to be a floating point error, feel free to buy one

[young void]

I mean i get it, its not badd but I get it always thriving for more

[final mica]

So the people who left who started youtube channels with 500k subs were making $45,000?

[topaz veldt]

but having like... 100 employees and a private jet while people are fleeing is poor decision making

[topaz veldt]

When did I say that?

[devout ridge]

Did any of the departed LMG employees even disclose their income?

[final mica]

You're switching topics. Again, I agree it is poor optics. I don't agree that LMG underpays employees. It's clear you guys have no idea how much jobs pay in Canada and let alone in Surrey, British Columbia

[topaz veldt]

I said the small company with people who make $45-62k... buying a jet is a poor decision

[devout ridge]

I know Jake intentionally censored his

[topaz veldt]

You said they didn't underpay their employees

[devout ridge]

He showed a pay stub with fake numbers on it for illustrative effect

[final mica]

Yes I did say that

[devout ridge]

Correct, hence why i used the average salary of an IT professional in Surrey BC
Reading is hard, I know

[topaz veldt]

So then what is the argument

[young void]

I dont actually know what the argument is im trying to fallow

[topaz veldt]

LMG employees are underpaid - you agree - and the owner decided to spend on a jet

[merry stirrup]

“uhhhhh”

[topaz veldt]

You know what would make for a bettery experience all around? Profit sharing

[devout ridge]

unbiased pidgeon thinks LMG employees are compensated fairly, and their employees are leaving cause..... i don't even know why he thinks they're leaving

[topaz veldt]

But then he said they are underpayed

[final mica]

I didn't agree to that. I said they didn't underpay their employees

[young void]

[topaz veldt]

Sorry he said "I don't agree that"

[devout ridge]

he's consistent with that one assertion at least

[young void]

Non the less snails is cool when not poking at him, hang around more and bs tech stoof

[brittle trellis]

Leaving because they want to do other things?

[young void]

Better chats to be had

[brittle trellis]

people rarely stay at a single company forever

[devout ridge]

Despite the numerous LMG employees stating that the pay was a large part

[young void]

New tech coming sooon oclock

[topaz veldt]

but they leave pretty quickly when planes get bought

[final mica]

I mean 5mall is at least arguing with some logic unlike Iroh. I have no clue what that person is saying

[brittle trellis]

Not being paid as much as you want doesn't mean you're underpaid

[final mica]

Yeah that person is kinda weird

[topaz veldt]

Again its not being paid "as much as you want" - its being paid on the low end, complaining, being told "nah its good" and then a plane is purchased

[devout ridge]

Also it is very abnormal for one of the first people employed at the company to believe they're not paid a wage sufficient to even buy a house

[brittle trellis]

Like Jake for example... Clearly paid plenty. Just wants more in life

[topaz veldt]

this is crucial

[final mica]

Can we just ignore Iroh or something? Let Ethan, 5mall and myself converse? Wormm is cool too

[devout ridge]

Also i love Jakkuh's quote on this
(paraphrasing) "It's hard working on your boss's third house when you don't even know if you can afford one yourself"

[topaz veldt]

Everyone has a seat at the table

[devout ridge]

Welcome to a public chat, where anyone can participate

[final mica]

I'll just use the ignore button

[topaz veldt]

If I had a company, and maximized my own income despite very clearly paying low to average even on people who helped me get it off the ground.... and then bought my boat... I don't even know how I'd show up to work

[final mica]

He's not the first person to do it

[topaz veldt]

That was never the point

[devout ridge]

"but everyone else was doing it" is not a valid excuse

[final mica]

Good thing is with the chrome extension, 'blocked messages' never even show up anymore

[topaz veldt]

I mean he could enslave them and not pay them at all - he wouldn't be the first to do it

[brittle trellis]

The man has a workshop full of bmws, buying a house wouldn't be a problem if he saved a bit of bloody money

[teal orbit]

"the salary will trickle down" or something idk

[final mica]

There's 2 topics.
Is it poor optics? Yes
Are LMG employees underpaid? No

[topaz veldt]

You underestimate how cheap 10 year old BMWs are

[brittle trellis]

Many of the long term lmg employees have bought houses while working there

Relatively cheap to buy, yes. Maintaining? No. Jake has even said this himself

The workshop also isn't cheap

[topaz veldt]

I simply disagree, as someone who has been salaried for prob 20 years at this point

[final mica]

See I like talking to 5mall, even though we disagree, they're honest in their arguments

[devout ridge]

Average home price in Surrey, BC is 932k cad

[topaz veldt]

I wouldn't take the salaries these people have.... back in 2007

Like literally my first job out of school, as a helpdesk admin, paid more than some of the alleged salaries

[merry stirrup]

real

[devout ridge]

Average home price for the Greater Vancouver area is 1.21M (cad)

[topaz veldt]

And thats a salary that I started at in 2007

[teal orbit]

at lmg? it's that bad?!

[merry stirrup]

19.88 for an it help desk during hs 💪💪(not that good)

[topaz veldt]

I got $14.50/hr in 2006-2007

[merry stirrup]

but it was during hs so not many can say that ig

[merry stirrup]

yeah you got 15$ an hour when i was born homie

[topaz veldt]

That was part time while in school

[final mica]

For what position?

[merry stirrup]

any lol

[topaz veldt]

An entry level helpdesk admin

I fixed toilets and computers

[final mica]

I did a search on helpdesk support in Canada and the salary is in the 40-50k range

[topaz veldt]

Right... and its unlikely the owner of the heldesk company has a plane

[final mica]

Well it depends if it's a big company or not

[devout ridge]

The issue isn't just the dollar amount, but the dollar amount in addition to the large purchases the company made unnecessarily

[topaz veldt]

And, having worked for the big company, where the owners told us all "Sorry guys, can't give increases this year, tough times" and show up in a Huracan .... we left

[devout ridge]

Fun fact, when people feel they are being underpaid, while the company is experiencing massive success, they tend to leave

[topaz veldt]

But that company wasn't a youtube channel with public optics like this

[final mica]

By the way @young void you're cool

[topaz veldt]

So when your whole base is "tech, fun, friends, good times" and then it turns in to Silicon Valley jackhattery, its a bad rub

[young void]

I use to run the Audit every night and close shift4 payments and balance negatives saw how many millions we where making over the years and how much it had improved while my salary didnt.... crushed me especially after I dedicated so much time to so many roles

[devout ridge]

Like that made sense when the company was small and didn't pull in all that much revenue, but now it's just disrespectful to the employees

[topaz veldt]

It just hasn't scaled

You'er always going to have the entry level people

[devout ridge]

The company grew, the pay didn't grow to match

[topaz veldt]

But after years and years of putting together Youtube videos people want to feel more accomplished in life than "yeah we got views and have fun"

I am not upset about it I just think its a very poor move

[arctic bronze]

what are yall talkin about

[topaz veldt]

LMG/LTT private jet

[arctic bronze]

oh

[devout ridge]

In early 2023, the company was worth roughly 100M cad (based on the rejected acquisitions offer they received), How much do you think they have now?

[merry stirrup]

owner of the last company i worked for was a genuine millionaire - no jet.

[topaz veldt]

Yeah a jet is definitely not millionaire territory

[devout ridge]

Obviously a rough valuation, but it's not a publicly traded company so that's the best we got

[merry stirrup]

then absolutely not in LTT’s territory

[topaz veldt]

and jets depreciate like whoa and cost a shit ton to maintain - the whole "oh its more efficient" thing never makes sense

[final mica]

Cool

[arctic bronze]

iv fallen off from ltt tbh, im only subscribed bc I listen to WAN during my travels to and from uni

[devout ridge]

it's more efficient if your presence makes tens of thousands, and i find that really hard to believe in linus' case

[arctic bronze]

once I graduate ima cut my subscription

[topaz veldt]

I live near Merck HQ - the CEO comes to work by helicopter every morning, but like....

[arctic bronze]

after jakes video that he posted about how he was dont at ltt, I really lost respect for ltt

[merry stirrup]

idk no more crazy cooling videos has been an L

[topaz veldt]

I don't have more or less respect for it I just think its obvious

[arctic bronze]

yeah

i just never connected the dots, had many other things on my mind

ltt just feels disconnected

[devout ridge]

I mean very few people were going public with their concerns, so it was hard for us as viewers to know

[arctic bronze]

yeah

[topaz veldt]

It truly makes no difference to me

[hoary hatch]

At least solo Jake still does ubiquiti shilling

[topaz veldt]

I just think that before I do something so publicly wtf I'd smooth out the ripples internally first

[arctic bronze]

its like a burnout for me

[devout ridge]

Does he still do infinite cables shilling, i don't remember

[arctic bronze]

true

[final mica]

They turned into a company instead of a youtube channel

[arctic bronze]

yeah

[wise bear]

he better

[limpid tapir]

Ngl I dont think the jet is either an issue or dumb

[merry stirrup]

respectfully this has always been the point

[limpid tapir]

I feel like its perfectly acceptable with the way they explain it

[hoary hatch]

That's a strong maybe

[merry stirrup]

they even said it themselves that LTT has been a product company for a very long time

[arctic bronze]

ltt does make great products tho, Ill never go at their products

[devout ridge]

LTT Bags and screwdrivers are great, i'll give em that

[topaz veldt]

the point is that a company should be at a point where no explanation is needed - the fact they needed to explain shows how out of line it is

[wise bear]

ngl when they left the langley house that's when they pivoted

[arctic bronze]

oh ik, its more of Im just burnt-out from ltt

[merry stirrup]

ltt just doesn’t make content im interested in anymore

[devout ridge]

The newer videos just don't have the same feel to them as the older ones

[hoary hatch]

Careful now
You're speaking to fetuses

[wise bear]

😭

[devout ridge]

I still rewatch lots of their older videos, i barely watch any of the new ones

[arctic bronze]

iv also gained more interests beyond "gpu", "pc","gaming" lol

[merry stirrup]

scrapyard wars is gone, cool cooling videos are gone, no oc in hw reviews, etc

[hoary hatch]

But Langley house was peak

[devout ridge]

They don't cover server hardware enough

[merry stirrup]

i have been around

[arctic bronze]

not me lol

[limpid tapir]

Nah there is no explanation needed even today, they just chose to explain it because thats how they do things and because its supposed to be content

[devout ridge]

I can't wait to see more Jakkuh content on his home datacenter

[wise bear]

langley house w/ whole-room diy watercooling was peak ltt

[merry stirrup]

you’re talking to a fetus who has been invested in computers since he was invented

[arctic bronze]

the latest scrapyard wars is pretty meh vs the old ones

[topaz veldt]

There is. When you make $60k and your boss says "no we pay everyone great" and then shows up in a Bugatti of course there's an explanation coming.

[arctic bronze]

i dont like the team thing

[wise bear]

a whole new meaning to impregnated silicon

[topaz veldt]

btw I am saying this at someone who very does not make $60k

[final mica]

Even with that scenario you just painted, there's no explanation needed

[merry stirrup]

lol

[topaz veldt]

How long have you worked professionally?

[trim agate]

Video I watch the most is when they were doing data recovery on a broken server, that felt like the most real & organic content ive seen from them and I love it

[final mica]

Almost a decade

[devout ridge]

I rewatch loads of their server content, it's great

[limpid tapir]

No not really, its the boss who owns the company outright, under a capitalistic system they just simply do have the money and its up to them how they spend it

[final mica]

Software developer

[brittle trellis]

You say that as if you have any idea what they're paid

[wise bear]

That reminds me- more than once people here have called me an industry professional in this server and I just kinda kek behind the screen lmao

[trim agate]

Been there so many times and it’s great to see a company like LTT go through something similar where something just shits the bed at a really unfortunate timing

[topaz veldt]

We do have an idea

[arctic bronze]

not long for me bc of uni, but im graduating with my bachelors in 4 weeks (5 if you include this week) :D

[devout ridge]

compared to me, you are

[wise bear]

it legit made me fucking laugh

[merry stirrup]

i’m an industry professional flopper

[devout ridge]

I'm just a guy who does this stuff in his freetime, and to some extent in his volunteer work as a lighting designer

[wise bear]

I was like W H A T

[brittle trellis]

US IT wages are so much higher than the rest of the world

[devout ridge]

also it was easier to say than describing the nuance in the moment

[limpid tapir]

I mean if the salary is competitive compared to other similar jobs then it shouldnt be an issue no?

[devout ridge]

Good thing we were comparing average salaries in Surrey

[topaz veldt]

These aren't IT jobs

[merry stirrup]

production

[final mica]

This was hopefully obvious but apparently not

[brittle trellis]

The job you're comparing them to is

[devout ridge]

The job i compared Jake to, is

[topaz veldt]

But the point is low employee ID people are leaving and months later owner buys jet

[wise bear]

Hol' up lemme get the popcorn-

[brisk jolt]

ngl i think i burnt a sock or 2

[wise bear]

There we are

[arctic bronze]

when I go full time at the company I did a year long internship at, I should start at 23 an hour, mind you, I live down south in the US where things are far cheaper than up north lol

[topaz veldt]

Like when Employee ID 5 leaves and makes jokes about bosses 3rd house... you're not doing good

[merry stirrup]

goon session went wild

[final mica]

Employee leaving the company, boss makes a dollar while the workers make a dime.... isn't that just captalism?

[brisk jolt]

i was running

[devout ridge]

Again, "everyone was doing it" is not a valid excuse

[arctic bronze]

yeah

[brittle trellis]

If you take everything at face value, sure

[limpid tapir]

Fact of the matter is

That in such small companies

[topaz veldt]

The owner of my company has multiple jets. But no one is making $45-62k. I am not opposed to wealth but when a company is as public as a content creator is its just goofy AF.

[limpid tapir]

This is just the system that exists

[wise bear]

Face value, just like our sponsor- dbrand

[arctic bronze]

well the owner making the most makes sense, the owner has the most risk vs an employee, higher risk means higher reward

[limpid tapir]

Yeah like im not going to lie, the hate seems so baseless.

[final mica]

I think we're rehashing ourselves now. The only thing I'll agree is that it's bad optics especially since it's a youtube channel that happens to also have undergone some controversy relatively recently

[arctic bronze]

now if the employees are struggling to get by, thats another issue

[devout ridge]

Also i love Jakkuh's quote on this
(paraphrasing) "It's hard working on your boss's third house when you don't even know if you can afford one yourself"

[limpid tapir]

ALSO it isnt even linus that bought it, its technically LMG and LMG is the one thats going to get the money agaIn from the sale

[brittle trellis]

multiple jets? They have the single one, that was dirt cheap, that wasn't even bought to be used for the normal jet purposes and won't be kept

[topaz veldt]

Well in the tone of the contraversy what advisor was like "you know what.... buy a plane"

[brittle trellis]

Oh wait I'm blind ignore me

[limpid tapir]

Ill agree about it being bad optics

[devout ridge]

guess who is a major share holder of LMG

[arctic bronze]

me

[topaz veldt]

Yes, but there are like 15 people who do international meetings daily.

[limpid tapir]

Then why wasnt there similar criticism when they bought the labs building

[final mica]

I'm not saying it's a good business decision. I'm saying it's his decision and it's a reasonable decision given the parameters he mentioned in the video

[limpid tapir]

Or anything else

[topaz veldt]

real estate appreciates

[devout ridge]

Almost like that directly relates to the creation of new content

[merry stirrup]

because the labs building makes sense? 💀😭

[limpid tapir]

So does the jet?

[topaz veldt]

Its his decision and its for us to criticize

[limpid tapir]

It too creates new content

[devout ridge]

If public airlines didn't exist, sure

[limpid tapir]

?

[arctic bronze]

Labs was an amazing investment

[topaz veldt]

The lab building is an investment in the company

[final mica]

First of all, do you agree with the parameters Linus explained in the video or not? If you think he straight up lied about most of the facts then thats a different discussion

[devout ridge]

how many more videos do you think they're gonna get out of it?

they can't modify it in really any way, so it's near impossible to make more content with it

[brittle trellis]

For the one millionth fucking time, they didn't buy the jet to use as a jet to replace commercial flying

[limpid tapir]

Im sure they looked at that when purchasing it

[trim agate]

Turning jet into a tech jet

[arctic bronze]

i have not watched the jet video so I have no opinion on it

[brittle trellis]

I'm going to start calling people slow in french in a minute

[limpid tapir]

I think this is a case of lot of people just hating on something because its supposed to be hated on

They have accountants

[final mica]

I can't read their messages but I've ignored that person. I also have a chrome extension I can share with you which blocks the "blocked messages" from appearing on discord

[limpid tapir]

Someone checked it out and supposedly it isnt a bad deal

[topaz veldt]

I don't think he's lying I think he's trying to cover his personal desire for a plane

[limpid tapir]

Or it wouldnt have happened

[devout ridge]

Making financial sense for the company, and being a reasonable thing to do while employees are struggling at their level of pay, are two very different things

[final mica]

Oh yes of course there's a portion of personal desire to buy the plane

[limpid tapir]

Is LMG underpaying employees compared to others in their field?

[arctic bronze]

he has alot talked about a tech jet for like a year or so now so its nothing new, it was talked about several times on WAN

[limpid tapir]

Its an issue then

[final mica]

They're not from here they don't know

[devout ridge]

From what we've seen, yes

[limpid tapir]

Any sources with actual numbers?

Or just the same quote of third house first house

[final mica]

I suggest just conversing with 5mall if you want a good faith argument and not that other person

[limpid tapir]

if they are actually underpaying compared to others in the field that is scummy. If they arent then there is no issue

[topaz veldt]

again I have talked about a lot of things but if I had a company who openly vent about controversy, salary, etc., I would definitely evaluate how things would be received

[limpid tapir]

Also like the jet is just separate from this as they are two different questions

yes the optics are horrible

But in terms of business decisions both of these things are independent

[arctic bronze]

woah wait, I was just mentioning that, not making a stance lol

[final mica]

Speaking of controversy, how much of LTT's audience do you think aren't even aware of their past drama and probably would've been kept in the dark if they didn't bring it up themselves

[limpid tapir]

I agree that optics wise its not a great move. But its unfair to bundle that in with the false criticism that financially its bad when we dont know the financials and all the information we have been given says that they are solid

[topaz veldt]

I don't know - believe it or not I don't really care about or follow LTT drama much at all. I have a lot of expensive things but I don't employ anyone. If I did employ people who were anonymously complaining about hours and salary, I wouldn't buy expense stuff and put it on display only to be like "OK ok okok .... so 5 5090s is actually a business decision that makes sense because..." its just bad taste through and through

[arctic bronze]

yeah I dont follow ltt drama much either, I just joined the conversation lol

[topaz veldt]

Its financially bad in that its not an investment into the very people who openly complain - and its not like "Hey we were able to give everyone an 8% increase AND pick up this snazzy plane" nope, they just bought a plane under another company

My typing is fucked because I am also picking out outdoor furniture with my wife lol

I just spent $10k on furniture... for outside

[arctic bronze]

where is my pay raise?

:(

[final mica]

That's really bad optics

[topaz veldt]

Its not - I don't have any underpaid employees

[final mica]

Well if LMG replaces them with chat-gpt then they can say the same thing

[topaz veldt]

No amount of me raising my employees salary will do anything because there aren't any

[limpid tapir]

I get what you mean and I would 100% agree with you if the money was actually being spent

From what they explain they will recoup near 100% of the cost of the plane

[arctic bronze]

just give me a 10000x pay increase, 10000 times 0 is 0

[topaz veldt]

Yeah no, not really.

[limpid tapir]

That means its just capital thats tied up, not thats actively used

[arctic bronze]

looks good on you

[limpid tapir]

That remains to be seen as and when it happens

[topaz veldt]

Have you ever seen what hanger space and maintenance costs?

[final mica]

I mean we gotta set some rules, do we agree with LTT's parameters about how much maintenance will cost, how much money they are able to recoup if they sell the jet years later etc

[limpid tapir]

And if they dont recoup it then feel free to lambast them

[topaz veldt]

you don't recoup depreciation and rental/maintenance

[mild sentinel]

64mb for 200$ buckoroo diff 🙏

[final mica]

Did you watch the video? He specifically mentioned how he's going to recoup that

[limpid tapir]

He did mention that long term it should be a net 0

[topaz veldt]

I did

[limpid tapir]

Again, if it isnt then feel free to say something then

[topaz veldt]

Thats what I told my wife about my M3

[topaz veldt]

pumped

[final mica]

Well you're not running a business so you can just say anything

[limpid tapir]

My point is just that as of today there really isnt reason to believe its an issue as of it or even if there is then there is no hard evidence

Innocent until proven guilty

[final mica]

If Linus straight up lied and the jet ended up bankrupting the business then yeah it was an awful decision

[limpid tapir]

If he loses a ton of money on it I will call it stupid too

[topaz veldt]

I am actually running a business but i have no employees

[limpid tapir]

He hasnt lost the money yet though

[mild sentinel]

0.1g lower tho 🤣

[arctic bronze]

you do have one, me, and I just got the best pay increase I could of asked for $0 to $0.00!!!

[final mica]

I would respect the argument more if you said Linus lied about the parameters and he won't be able to recoup most of his money back

and backed it up

[topaz veldt]

I don't think anyone needs to go so far as crafting a "he's lying" story - it looks bad enough at face value

Its not like he bought a dying public library

he bought a jet with gold sinks

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/sink-in-kody992-gif-2038662406493630813

[final mica]

See now I know you either didn't watch the video or you're not presenting the facts in good faith

[brittle trellis]

Who the hell uses browser discord

[topaz veldt]

Not sure how you got there, but sure

[final mica]

Someone who's waiting for the program to compile

[turbid locust]

I mean, have you ever used the desktop app?

[brittle trellis]

Yes, people that have no fucking clue what's going on seeing "jet" and saying dumb things

[final mica]

And yes, my program has been "compiling" for an hour now but who's counting

[turbid locust]

well that and it's stupid lol

[young void]

[final mica]

His uncle supposedly found a "deal" on a customized jet and the gold customization is probably what lowered the price since it's too custom

[limpid tapir]

Also correct me if I'm wrong but its the desktop app basically just a browser with only discord running?

[topaz veldt]

Are you suggesting I have no fucking clue?

[brittle trellis]

Buying a jet for a few million that's worth as much as you paid when you sell it so you can use it for a meme and a few videos isn't that dumb

[hoary hatch]

Welp

Intel employee pricing for 250KP is $110

[final mica]

So Linus didn't buy a jet and wanted gold stuff in it and added that accessory. His uncle tried finding a good deal on a jet that other people didn't particularly want

[hoary hatch]

265KF is $130

[limpid tapir]

I mean perhaps hes suggesting you have a blowing clue instead, or a fingering clue. If hes mormon then perhaps soaking?

[topaz veldt]

lol as someone who worked in aerospace... jets are only beat in depreciation by italian cars

[arctic bronze]

really? damn

[turbid locust]

Just wildly distasteful after your core employee base mass quit due to not being compensated enough

[young void]

For a completely solid chips thats real noicee

[limpid tapir]

Also sorry if this was a bit too risque for a joke on techchat

[brittle trellis]

It's three and a half decades old

[arctic bronze]

wait who all left now?

[final mica]

Cool. I don't work in aerospace. What do you think about Linus' arguments about the parts being replaced with brand new geniune parts increase the net value of the jet?

[limpid tapir]

Fact of the matter is that there is only ever so rich you can get as an employee

[topaz veldt]

My wife has a friend who owns a very popular snowboarding brand. He has a jet. If anyone on this planet thinks a jet holds its value their out of their mind.

[turbid locust]

Well maybe "mass" is the wrong word but very big faces leaving yk

[arctic bronze]

yeh

[limpid tapir]

Also a question about that, its like old as hell so I would assume that a significant chunk of its depreciation would already be done

[topaz veldt]

The whole argument that "oh the plane already hit the depreciation floor its basically just a free jet" ... wtf do you think happens to old jets when their turbines need servicing

[limpid tapir]

No chance it does

[topaz veldt]

see comment above

[final mica]

You're speaking in general terms. I'm asking about what Linus specifically said about being able to recoup the cost. Is his math wrong?

[turbid locust]

yeah and being paid under the median by a company you massively contributed to the success of is NOT asking to be rich

[topaz veldt]

Its ultra optimistic to the point of being ignorant, yeah

Also rather than gamble why not just invest int he company where the people are complaining?

[brittle trellis]

Alex and Andy left to do ZTT, lmg even firing them so they got severance instead of nothing

Jake left because he wanted more, and had no real room to grow in the company

People don't stay in the same place forever

[topaz veldt]

You don't need to fire someone to give them severance

[brittle trellis]

If you think for even a second Jake was actually struggling you're an idiot

[brittle trellis]

It's the easy way to do it

Both severance and ability to claim unemployment

[final mica]

Awesome. We're close. So you think that Linus gambled on the contract agreement and parts being replaced/upgraded increase the value of his jet to offset depreciation.

[turbid locust]

Mfs are acting Linus has never made a poor financial decision ever. In fact I think they literally made a video about the shitty decisions he's made before lmao

[limpid tapir]

Actually thats what I was going to ask about if thats all good. from what I understand they got a jet at a price that doesnt include the servicing which basically acts as a "Refurbished" stamp. So instead of buying something second hand they bought something refurbished

But at second hand rates

[topaz veldt]

No its not - because firing someone results in them NOT getting severance or unemployment benefits... but I am clueless

[limpid tapir]

So logic dictates that selling it second hand should still yield a net 0

[final mica]

What? Every business owner has made tons of bad decisions.

[turbid locust]

Difference between struggling and not being compensated fairly. You wouldnt be happy making 150K if the median for your position was 220K.

[topaz veldt]

Have you ever heard of Cleetus McFarland?

[turbid locust]

I dont talk to people that cant comprehend theoreticals.

[brittle trellis]

Wrong way around bud. You get unemployment if you're fired

You don't get it without a many week delay if you leave voluntarily or are fired for misconduct

[young void]

First and only coins up, but not a green or pink so meh

[topaz veldt]

No you don't - being fired for cause you do not get unemployment. Being terminated from a company requires the company disclose the terms of separation. Severance is not part of "firing"

[final mica]

So you didn't make any point then

[turbid locust]

see previous reply

[turbid locust]

I mean might be different in canada land

[topaz veldt]

Severance is reserved for being layed off or taking an early retirement but not "being fired"

[limpid tapir]

Nope, do tell

[brittle trellis]

Americans lol

[final mica]

Yep

[merry stirrup]

i got laid off and indeed got a severance 👍

[topaz veldt]

When you pay out severance it has tax incentives

you can't just "severance a fired person so its nice for them"

its tax fraud

[turbid locust]

womp

[final mica]

I mean Americans are cool I guess but they don't know shit about salaries and jobs in Canada

Posting GDP is supposed to do what?

[merry stirrup]

mac say it

[final mica]

What is this clown doing?

[turbid locust]

same thing as "Americans lol"

[topaz veldt]

ultra ignorant - i work for an international company, which, has offices in Canada

[turbid locust]

contributing nothing to the conversation

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/jose-mourinho-sweet-trouble-gif-26762341

[final mica]

Basically what you've been doing then

[brittle trellis]

https://youtu.be/m0GPnA9pW8k literally in the first 20 seconds

[turbid locust]

Didnt i tell you I dont speak to people that cant comprehend theoreticals

stop replying to my shit fr fr

yall fw tame impala

[merry stirrup]

(they got laid off)

[final mica]

So an 18 year old American. No wonder this person is so clueless

[topaz veldt]

right

[topaz veldt]

whom?

[young void]

You be nice to my floppas

[turbid locust]

the urge to screenshot my CD again

[topaz veldt]

Biggie Smalls?

[young void]

[merry stirrup]

he’s talking about mac which is funnier

[final mica]

5mall you know you're cool

[topaz veldt]

I don't know that I am cool

[merry stirrup]

mac is like double my age i’m just saying

[topaz veldt]

but I do know that I have colleagues who work in canada and firing them doesn't get severance lol

[final mica]

That's so sad

[turbid locust]

I will never beat the unc-usations

[young void]

Silly geese

[topaz veldt]

Bro is out there flexing his fake haircut again

[brisk jolt]

@trim agate might be time to start threatening them with small claims tribunal

[merry stirrup]

i think you care too much about other people

[turbid locust]

I do get it cut comically often lmao

[turbid locust]

https://klipy.com/gifs/truth-nuke-true-3

[topaz veldt]

Comic Sans

[turbid locust]

Sans

FROM UNDERTALE!!!!1111!!!

[arctic bronze]

NO WAY

[merry stirrup]

3 letter acronym

[turbid locust]

that hurt me to type a little bit ngl

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/sans-markiplier-running-ai-luma-gif-2337224722043877301

[turbid locust]

anyways guys I unfucked the tech chat you're welcome

[topaz veldt]

Whats the best portable projector I can get

[turbid locust]

nothing some 1/10 ragebait cant fix

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/total-dramarama-total-drama-cody-dog-gif-4322858392764790250

[turbid locust]

damn they got unbiased pidgeon in a gif

[merry stirrup]

my name is ray cism

[turbid locust]

My name is trey i got a basketball game tomorrow

im a point guard

[arctic bronze]

i thought you was peter file?

[merry stirrup]

no that’s @brisk jolt looking for the incredible

[merry stirrup]

portable in like what sense

[arctic bronze]

its moveable

its not gmod welded to the ground

[merry stirrup]

you can move just about every projector i wont lie

[arctic bronze]

:(

[merry stirrup]

like i’m thinking the jawn got batteries

[turbid locust]

fine china AK cant hurt you

[merry stirrup]

$?

[topaz veldt]

like in and out of house

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/moistcr1tikal-charlie-penguinz0-casino-gamble-gif-9224606295503004604

[turbid locust]

like 70 dolla

ive transitioned back to CS from Val so im about to become a skin degen again

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/phy-trunks-kid-plus-goten-kid-breathing-and-timing-in-unison-trunks-imminent-battle-ki-blast-cannon-fusion-gif-15724330029820865811

[merry stirrup]

1/1000 issue is so silly

hardly heard of a doa monitor that isn’t shattered yknow

[low sorrel]

I might of nuked my DE @pure garnet

[merry stirrup]

wait is this the linux gaming week

[cosmic gazelle]

this the shit people post n are like “bet you didn’t even know my monitor was on”

[merry stirrup]

😭

oled so good

[trim agate]

Quick delete ur name is in there

[brisk jolt]

thats not even my real name

[minor herald]

my name rand

its short for random

[trim agate]

Well how was I supposed to know that

[minor herald]

jk

[low sorrel]

I could have never seen that the Asian living in Singapore isn't named alex

[low sorrel]

Asian in singapore

[trim agate]

I live in Singapore and know multiple people named Alex

Plus if I see a screenshot of someone within a screenshot saying “Hi very obvious name,”

I’m gonna think it’s their name 😭

[limpid tapir]

Samsung galaxy beam

Or whatever it is called

Trust its definitely the right answer despite the fact that its probably 10+ years old and was horrible at the time too

[brisk jolt]

that name I use on like every shopping platform as an alias is literally alex dino

[trim agate]

Hi Alex Dino

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/gundam-gundam-seed-gundam-seed-destiny-gundam-seed-freedom-athrun-gif-12179412040030069581

the asus mf literally just typed to me “hello customer,” LOL

[trim agate]

AI

[brisk jolt]

cb today so hot

originally it wasnt then it started drizzling then the heat in the ground rise up

[trim agate]

Ya I’m walking to my canteen right now and my goodness it’s hot

[brisk jolt]

WE CANT FUCKIN READ

[low sorrel]

You having fun?

[trim agate]

I mean it sounds like you’re getting a repair

[brisk jolt]

it takes 3-5 days for them to order and get the parts so estimated next friday for me to get it, worst case is literally 20- I find this fucking unacceptable dealing with 3 weeks of delay thanks to these jackssses at vii

[low sorrel]

Be a Karen no balls start complaining

[floral spear]

Sp uh good news

Finally got a desk

Bad news idk idk what to do with the glass table

[wind crag]

My pump runs super loud unless its in this orientation, any ideas? (Ive tried rotating it to remove the air bubbles if thats an issue and its changed nothing)

I assembled this loop tonight (new pump)

[low sorrel]

@wise bear @steel stream uhhhhhh

[minor herald]

its upside down

[wind crag]

Yes I know

Note that I said thats the only orientation it runs quietly in

[green marsh]

tech fun 😄 https://x.com/Eulji612/status/2041719186729398777

호국신 (@Eulji612)

자료유출을 방지하기 위해 구멍을 뚫고 폐기된 기업용 SSD

X · Apr 8, 2026, 3:26 AM

Corporate SSDs that have been drilled with holes to prevent data leaks and then discarded

[minor herald]

i seen this but with laptop

[green marsh]

missed every part which matters ?

cause that is the joke here - they drilled just the casing, no PCBs were harmed

[minor herald]

they can just remove the ssd and then sell/give laptop away
vs drilling thru laptop into the battry

[minor herald]

interesting idk

[wind crag]

It does run, lights up and all, its just super loud when its upright

Ignore that Im in a completely black bathroom

Is it possibly an air pocket being at the top of the rad?

Causing alot of noise from the rushing out water?

[minor herald]

you getting coolent flowing when upside down

[wind crag]

Its flowing both ways

Upright and upside down

Its just loud when its upright

Or sideways

[merry stirrup]

@pure garnet sitting on my y40 rn

[brisk jolt]

does it look like its gonna crumble under the load?

[merry stirrup]

no it’s more than fine

[brisk jolt]

im fuckin fighting 3 fuckers rn

im actually done with this stupid retailer

talking to them is like talking to my father- its actually pointless

its worse than talking to a goddamn brick

like I dont get whats so difficult about asking asus for a stupid fuckin box

[trim agate]

I just spent my entire day unscrewing drive mounts so we can dispose of over 3 petabytes of SSDs

[brisk jolt]

they are fixing my shit tmr

[trim agate]

Oh that’s quick

What should I eat for dinner

[brisk jolt]

food

ytd they tell me 3-5 working days to get the parts then today they call me say have knn

[trim agate]

It’s a good thing it’s here early

[brisk jolt]

maybe I should transfer my H24M kit to my aunt’s 7600X build

or do i try to get H24M working with my 9950x3d in gear 2

[trim agate]

She doesn’t have a 9950x3d?

[brisk jolt]

in the future she’ll get the 9950x3d

rn Im thinking if I want to pass her the CL26 kit

since im selling the intel system with her CL30 kit

[minor herald]

maybe but need like ddr5 8000 for 2:1 to maybe be worth it and its offen easyer just to do basic setting in 3:3:2

[brisk jolt]

rn my h16a can do 7800C36 but the H24M is kinda weird when I tried g2 for like 1 hr

not 1 hr it was more like 15 mins

[civic reef]

Imagine if AMD made higher end RDNA 1.0

$150-200 RX 5900 XT

Trading blows with the 2080 Ti

[topaz veldt]

yawnzo

[devout ridge]

i need some moms who don't know computer hardware to sell large amounts of ddr4 ecc near me

why can't there be ddr4 ecc listings on facebook marketplace near me

[wraith steeple]

Been doing more LGR stuff lately

[wraith steeple]

Not sure if they were to own them

[devout ridge]

i care not for reason, only ram

[wraith steeple]

Fair I'm the same way with retro e-waste so I'm in no position to judge

[devout ridge]

ain't got enough ram

ZFS is crying and begging for more ram

Snail, don't you want to alleviate this server's pain by sending me free ram?

[wraith steeple]

I'm waiting for that K5 PR166 to arrive. Not sure if I want to pair it with an S3 Virge DX or one of those ATI Mach64 based Rage II+DVD cards

[devout ridge]

running 4x16gb dimms rn

a while ago i bought a 128gb ddr4 kit by mistake, and returned it, really wish i kept it

at the time i didn't have any DDR4 systems though, so i thought i wouldn't use it

[wraith steeple]

That's rough

[wraith steeple]

And the PR200 is unicorn status like the Cyrix 5x86 133 in terms of rarity. The PR200 was a short run release as it was released when the K6 was already out by that point or was just days before

[devout ridge]

hindsight is 20/20, but god damn am i said

[devout ridge]

(i meant to buy ddr3, not ddr4)

i paid for the whole CPU, i'm using the whole CPU

[minor herald]

MOAR

[trim agate]

@brisk jolt my tables came in

[devout ridge]

pretty tables

[trim agate]

$50 delivery

But free tables

Not exactly sure how I’m gonna fit it in my room but I’ll be happy

[civic reef]

@merry stirrup BSG are going to add the ability to play dead so you can do stuff like this from the Tarkov movie

[brisk jolt]

i dont think this h24m wants to boot 600 trfc

I think Ive tried all I can for 8000 even on H16A- its fucked

[minor herald]

not 2200mhz fclk?

also WHY 1.3V soc]

[brisk jolt]

thats just zentimings bugging

you literally panic at everything still in test

i dont even think my 9950x3d can do 2200 fclk lmao

[pure garnet]

that’s normal? h24m doesn’t do low trfc

floor is around 160

[brisk jolt]

i wonder if my chip can even do 2100 fclk stable ngl

I've never attempted 2100 ngl

[minor herald]

odds are worse latnacy

[brisk jolt]

?

i think 1.47 dram might be the stable here

[topaz veldt]

160ns is the floor for H24M, you're below that already

120 H16A, 160 H24M

[brisk jolt]

do you run 2000 or 2200 for ur 8000 tune?

[topaz veldt]

I have one computer running 2200 because it eats it like cake

the other I just left at 2000, another 2133

[minor herald]

some workloads 2000mhz faster other 2200mhz is

[brisk jolt]

so should i attempt the most this chip can do?

[topaz veldt]

Doesn't really have anything to do with workload - 2200 is always faster than 2000

but 2200 might have a slight latency penalty to being "off clock" from 8000

[topaz veldt]

I'd run whatever the chip can do at 1.15 vsoc

[brisk jolt]

it just restarted again xd 1.47 is not the formula

[brisk jolt]

actually nvm mightve been the ram shitting itself due to temp

[pure garnet]

imo you should just try stabilizing your xmp first

so you’re not playing temp games

[brisk jolt]

yeah so right lets go back to the part where I have a turdbin 9950x3d that cant do 8000

[topaz veldt]

Thats the same exact kit I shared above

I have yet to have a CPU that can't do 8000

[brisk jolt]

dudes just puking rainbow bins out everywhere he goes

[pure garnet]

i also for some reason doubt it’s the cpu

[topaz veldt]

well you're going 65535 on unstable stuff

[brisk jolt]

as of rn im using the 5060ti so the fan isnt directly on the cpu so like

[pure garnet]

my 7800x3d can’t do 6400 or 2133fclk without errors but it did 8000 all day

[brisk jolt]

im rn attempting 2133 fclk and the fan’s on the AIO tubing lmao

[pure garnet]

your order of operations make 0 sense

[brisk jolt]

Ive just realised im still in a vc

[pure garnet]

just turn xmp on, change no timings, and see what karhu does

[topaz veldt]

the B850-I I posted above is this puppy

[brisk jolt]

temp’s ruled out

i’m gonna revert back to CL40 and see what happens

[topaz veldt]

how are temps ruled out

[brisk jolt]

I put the fan blowin over and hwinfo open

[topaz veldt]

what are the actual temps

[brisk jolt]

42c

[topaz veldt]

like now or during karhu

[brisk jolt]

during

[topaz veldt]

how long does karhu run before it fails

[brisk jolt]

around like 140%, not sure what time that is in karhu

[topaz veldt]

like under 7 mins

[brisk jolt]

yeah

basically arnd the 5 min mark

[topaz veldt]

Set your VDD to 1.45, vddq to 1.42

That kit, the 800 CL40 GSkill XMP.... is early on SKU and kind of meh

[brisk jolt]

as of rn I im trying a dialed back 640 trfc

Ill try that upon another restart

[topaz veldt]

That's too low dude

[brisk jolt]

hm, whatcha reckon i should set it

[topaz veldt]

700

the absolute floor for TRFC, like .... "as good as it can possibly get" is 160 ns

its TRFC / mclk (3900 in you case) * 1000 = nanoseconds

You are on a failing tune trying to target 164 ns

XMP is probably like 900 trfc1

[pure garnet]

672 at 8000 is usually what i run

[topaz veldt]

thats close to 170ns which is good

but it seems like setsuna is trying to min tune a setup that isn't stable

[pure garnet]

imo try these volts with xmp primaries, 672 trfc, 32767 trefi just to eliminate temps for now and see what happens

and it might do 8000

[brisk jolt]

i just passed 10 mins so ill see how it goes

[topaz veldt]

yeah 1.15 vsoc, 2000 fclk, 1.1 vddp, 1.4 vddio, 1.45vdimm, 1.42vssq, trefi 32767

its likely not enough vdimm

[pure garnet]

h24m requires a shitton of volts to touch cas usually

[brisk jolt]

as of 13 mins in

[brisk jolt]

idk why zentimings love to show 1.3, im on 1.15 vsoc

[pure garnet]

because you’re not setting vsoc using amd overclocking

[brisk jolt]

oh icic

[turbid locust]

Should be plenty vDIMM for that config ngl

[topaz veldt]

Not on this asshole kit

[turbid locust]

I’m more suspect of tRCD

[topaz veldt]

I got the same exact kit and it wouldn't run XMP in my 265K w/o another 100-250mv

[brisk jolt]

I never got it working above XMP with the 265K tbh

[topaz veldt]

They pumped them out as 8000 1.4v

but literally never worked - 1.45v was the requirement for me

[brisk jolt]

Thats weird

[topaz veldt]

Same thing with my 9000 CL42 1.45v kit

I am running 8800 CL40 @ 1.55

[brisk jolt]

I might attemp 2200 fclk once it passes 1hr

[topaz veldt]

I wouldn't

I would let it pass for 8 hours

[brisk jolt]

alright

[pure garnet]

you need to test fclk with vt3 and music to hear error correction

[brisk jolt]

Im 25 mins in with 640 trfc, way better than sub 5 with 620 xd

[trim agate]

did u see my tables

[brisk jolt]

yeah i did

[trim agate]

they seem pretty sturdy but i cba to carry them

[analog basin]

so i have this system with a 240 watt psu and i want to plug in a gtx 750 ti and i have another psu but im worried i dont want it to kill all my components its a cooler master 550w 80 plus

is there anything i can do to make sure it won’t kill my components straight away

[frank zealot]

What are the minimum requirements to install linux?

[frank zealot]

240w PSU? Is it a weird custom oem thing?

[minor herald]

dose it boot into bios?

[analog basin]

yea zoostorm

[minor herald]

shoud be safe if you using low power cpu

[analog basin]

it’s a college project thing

[frank zealot]

blinks what

[analog basin]

i have a i5-6700 i think

[frank zealot]

no you don't.
a 6700 is an i7, or it's not a 6700 if it's an i5

[analog basin]

here’s the link to the page if that helps https://ebay.us/m/8cnkF7

6400

ok got it wrong

[frank zealot]

okay that does look like standard atx

you can put in a 550w and shouldn't have any issues

[trim agate]

id recommend the 550w

[analog basin]

how will i know if it wants too kill my components 🤣

[trim agate]

thats gonna run closer to 300 than it is to 240

[frank zealot]

you won't until stuff explodes

[analog basin]

oh 😅 ok

[frank zealot]

shockingly you can't see electricity when it's working inside of stuff

[trim agate]

yeah your system is probably just gonna keep rebooting and suck to use

[analog basin]

it’s my old psu from my pc before i upgraded

[steel stream]

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-rtx-5090-lightning-sent-for-repair-after-customer-practises-and-learns-how-to-solder-on-the-pcb

[trim agate]

if you have the 500w just use that

[frank zealot]

of all the fucking things someone could learn to solder on, what the actual fuck

[steel stream]

too funny

[analog basin]

ok i’ll try it pray for me that my house doesn’t explode 🤣🤣

[frank zealot]

go buy an RX580 and try soldering on that first

[topaz veldt]

I think its being a little tongue-in-cheek

I don't think someone is actually learning to solder on a 5090 lightning

[frank zealot]

Logical people wouldn't. But gamers are stupid

[topaz veldt]

Nah

also you wouldn't start on those resistors