#tech-chat-2

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sharp heart
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as it should be

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with some necessary tape to fix all minor mechanical errors

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W tape

wise bear
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Let's fuckin go

steel stream
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dope dope dope

wise bear
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Literally the perfect fit

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Space for a side table and knick knack shelves too

steel stream
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yeah it's looking awesome

topaz veldt
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Wow my X870E Apex was like eons behind on BIOS

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Version 1715 we're up to 2103 lol

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1.2.0.3g vs 1.3.0.0a agesa

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fortunately

hoary hatch
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Not for this
Note: this isn't for replacing a broken laptop, which would typically be a ticket system for case by case basis; this is a site wide laptop refresh

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So if I broke mine and needed a replacement or a new screen or something? Ticket system
Need a new charger? Ticket system

atomic veldt
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i shoulda listened to pc part picker, stuck with my gpu vertical now. Not to bothered anyways looks decent

devout ridge
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multichannel remote relay board, with LEDs for funsies

brave panther
vagrant cargo
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Any updates on the monitor releases for this year the 32inch mini leds ones im waiting for hkc to hopefully do the m10 ultra globally

devout ridge
brave panther
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interferance though

devout ridge
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I've had no issues

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What would cause interference?

brave panther
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same frequency - one transmitter goes online, all recievers turn on

devout ridge
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I'm using the included remote with 8 separate signal channels

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no idea how it accomplishes that, but works perfectly

brave panther
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ight

devout ridge
brave panther
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ah those are recievers

vagrant cargo
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What monitors are you guys looking forward to the most? For me im aiming the mini led market atm , personally im aiming at either a hkc m9 or hkc m10 ultra if they release in the uk, hopefully they do

devout ridge
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Oh sorry, yeah they're receivers

steel stream
pure garnet
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@merry stirrup the buyer of the detroit x870e-e returned it and it's listed for sale again 😭

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my beautiful half destroyed motherboard

devout ridge
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i'm excited for more foveated rendering in VR

brave panther
devout ridge
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Imagine desktop foveated rendering

brave panther
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not hard to imagine, i already talked about that here

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much better use of resources than ai upscaling/ frame gen

devout ridge
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What about both (or kind of all three)

vagrant cargo
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Tbh i want full vr headsets that covers the head imagine a led like mask but its a vr headset having the mask with padding means bo light bleed and ot covers the entire face maybe area on bottom for vents to mouth to stop fogging

brave panther
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you want lightest headset possible

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you clearly havent worn full face respirator

devout ridge
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Bigscreen beyond 2 is the most interesting VR headset i've seen

brave panther
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yep

devout ridge
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absolutely insane specs in a tiny form factor

brave panther
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what i would like is a external wireless camera that is able to enhance tracking for inside out tracking headsets
eliminate tracking deadzones and enhance full body tracking

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one would be good, two would be better

low sorrel
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@wise bear do you think i need more fins

devout ridge
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Gonna answer for peyton, absolutely yes

brave panther
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Needs canards

wise bear
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Moar canards

low sorrel
arctic bronze
low sorrel
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I forgot about a heatshield...

devout ridge
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Uh oh

low sorrel
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rip jeb

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and the tourists

sharp heart
vagrant cargo
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Tbh main tech I wanna see become reality is a holodeck but imsgine it a holodeck panel in a room like a bedroom can change the visual style of all the stuff in the room, be so god dam call i want a game room or office with a theme whata a mix if anime style and cyberpunk style

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When do you guys assume we could get commercial holodeck tech? For me im putting it around 2035 or 2036 at least minium apparently there is alrdy some very early concepts for stuff like that

steel stream
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idk holodeck doesn't interest me that much

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I like decorating my room with tangible items

topaz veldt
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Do I buy two 9950X3D2 and delid the best?

devout ridge
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Yes

topaz veldt
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I thought so

wraith steeple
smoky orbit
topaz veldt
keen wigeon
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@topaz veldt buy two, hit one with a hammer a bunch of times, mix the silicon dust from the hammered one into the TIM for the undamaged one. Get +98% more IPC

smoky orbit
pallid marsh
topaz veldt
devout ridge
smoky orbit
# topaz veldt thats lame scalpy shit

Not really, you’re just augmenting your chances of getting the best one, and you could resell the 14 other ones at a discount (second hand prices)

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Not redeeming with the intention of making money but to recup a portion of the cost

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To be clear, im not a scalper nor do I endorse it

topaz veldt
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thats too much work

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i am very lazy

smoky orbit
steel stream
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man I hate deployments to prod

hoary hatch
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Man I hate IT incompetence

cosmic gazelle
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holy cooked price man sheesh

steel stream
hoary hatch
cosmic gazelle
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lol probably

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there’s a location in tacoma that very well might be money laundering fr

steel stream
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I am so stoked to not work IT this summer hallelujah

pallid marsh
cosmic gazelle
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this is… kind of a good deal? sadly?

hoary hatch
trim agate
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please make a support ticket next time instead of directly calling our IT department.

wise bear
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(Yes it is centered)

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((Yes my ceiling is not square))

pallid marsh
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CAT!

pure garnet
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cute kitty

wise bear
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ty

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his name loaf

cosmic gazelle
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@merry stirrup you introducing me to hwbot has me looking at shit like this to try and compete lma

thick frost
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razer gum

shell void
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is it caffeine gum or somethin

split wharf
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Hi so my brother works in asus and he got a prototype like not for sale version to check it out but I did something in bios and after that user password is activated, i didn't send it up i didn't do anything I had accidentally set up the admin password which I clear but I didn't keep the user password please help

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Alt + R is not working

wise bear
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Hahahahahaha

pure garnet
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im gonna buy it when you buy my stuff fr

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it needs to go to a good home

pure garnet
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i was gonna ask u

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until i get the 13900ks over should i do 3d mark with 265k or 12900ks

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i know raptor is king but i dont have raptor CatSmile

wraith steeple
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State tax refund came in today

pallid marsh
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Still need to do mine

young void
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Decided to dip my toe back into the gamedev stoof revision one of basic ui and enabled physics and a basic stand up animation but needs worked on

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Was gonna setup metahumans again but theyre kinda a heavy asset

cosmic gazelle
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bro i am going to crash out

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i think i literally have to test it with all auto timings because at this point idek if auto timings are stable

lunar wolf
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curious if anyone knows any communities for people trying to make new tech review youtube channels

wispy oasis
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Ngl this looks extremely powerful

lunar wolf
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nowadays that would be a VRM cooler

cosmic gazelle
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i’d honestly be pretty surprised if that thing could run windows 10 22h2 well

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yeesh it’s not even socketed

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that there is a laptop in a big box

wispy oasis
smoky orbit
wispy oasis
wispy oasis
# smoky orbit ohh nicey

😑 he use to have a xeon workstation but it wouldn't overheat constantly and cook his room because he didnt shut it up or give it any breathing room

cosmic gazelle
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@merry stirrup i think i may have degraded my shit, i cannot get 3466 to pass any amount of karhu anymore bro 😭

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i tried procodt, drive strengths, auto timings, increasing or decreasing voltage

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3400 it is ig

sharp heart
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degrade it til its back to jedec

peak hornet
wise bear
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Window treatment doin it's job nicely catcool

wise bear
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Roleism aside it's because you should link your forum acct

peak hornet
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I dont know how to get other roles

wise bear
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Ltt forum account

peak hornet
wise bear
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You've got a brain

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Figure it out

peak hornet
wise bear
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...

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Bro.

peak hornet
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That channel never showed

wise bear
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Uh huh

peak hornet
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Omg i forgot to show all channels

pure garnet
wise bear
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It's legit at the top

pure garnet
wise bear
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It's right there

pure garnet
wise bear
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<@&750150305383186585> we found a channel displaying bug

peak hornet
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Ye and u had to be rude to me

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💔

wise bear
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Look

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Lots of dummies come through these parts

peak hornet
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Im not a dummy

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Thats the thing…

wise bear
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That's as good as you're gonna get apology wise

peak hornet
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If you checked that I made and self host a entire website then u could have realised

wise bear
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Lmao

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Just because you know css and html doesn't mean we know that you know how discord works

low sorrel
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Peyton is 2100m/s of Delta v enough to land on the Mun and back from LEO?

peak hornet
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How do you think I linked the website to my account

wise bear
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Also if you're hosting and building your own site I kinda expect you to figure out how to link a forum acct to discord

peak hornet
wise bear
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ANYWAYS

low sorrel
wise bear
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If you know c++ I'd expect you to understand memory management and the benefits of using a lower level language that c or w/e else fortnut is programmed in

low sorrel
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@pallid marsh I managed to go from heel edge to toe edge to heel edge all the way the bunny hill

wise bear
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Not all of it lmao

low sorrel
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Fair

wise bear
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That would be horrendous

pallid marsh
low sorrel
peak hornet
hoary hatch
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Gg

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Health insurance is going up 44.3%

brisk jolt
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im not insured in anyway in the first place tbh

steel stream
merry stirrup
indigo walrus
wise bear
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Mmhm!

low sorrel
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Peyton have you played nuclear option?

wise bear
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Not yet

wise bear
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I'm boutta nap on the new couch after eatin pizzaur

merry stirrup
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life so far

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5 kits have booted so far and none to windows

turbid locust
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fire lmfao

merry stirrup
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i think these are the binning settings that’ll work

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3 more trays of the ones like pictured for the same dimms btw

turbid locust
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Wonder if you’re hitting PCB limits atp

merry stirrup
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not

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i’m binning for h16a godbin on h24m

wise bear
turbid locust
steel stream
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also i fuck with cold little caesars

wise bear
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I got mod pizza

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Was good

plucky finch
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no look at how many monitors he has lmfao

wise bear
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Oh so you just thought of me lmao

plucky finch
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its u at 4 am

merry stirrup
turbid locust
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ur chillin

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Was just bringing up a potential concern lol

wise bear
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Or ramen

plucky finch
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ramen> pizza at 4 am tbh

merry stirrup
wise bear
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I mean yeah

steel stream
wise bear
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Cheesy teriyaki noods with veg always slaps

merry stirrup
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gonna try 9266 and then stay focused

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ez.

wise bear
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When 9999

merry stirrup
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already did 11

pure garnet
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9067 gear 4 is best daily fr (my chip is so bad)

steel stream
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can you set the speed to like 2000

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or not possible on d5

merry stirrup
indigo walrus
# plucky finch ramen> pizza at 4 am tbh

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plucky finch
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i made his 48 hour brownies

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they were good but they were a little too sweet for my liking

turbid berry
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slim pebble
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Optimus are hot! 🔥

wraith steeple
pallid marsh
indigo walrus
# low sorrel The racism:

Yee, Japan still has a lot of catching up to do in that area. Same with workplace equality / operating hours.

devout ridge
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Yeah that is one of the big, and often times not mentioned issues with Japan

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Though it’s more so xenophobia than racism

granite dirge
wraith steeple
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Japan and Arab Countries have surprisingly a lot in common when it comes to mannerisms and culture norms

low sorrel
merry stirrup
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@turbid locust 0 kits out of that tray LOL

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mayhaps i’m asking for the impossible

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like 10 kits posted

wraith steeple
young void
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Aww snap

pallid marsh
granite dirge
low sorrel
devout ridge
brisk jolt
turbid locust
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you may have to test each stick individually and just pair sticks that work

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if you can do that

wraith steeple
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Isn't that right, @fringe vigil NinoPog

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
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not an easy feat

steel stream
turbid berry
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Waiting for the day that we finally will get the redesign

merry stirrup
low sorrel
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@wise bear @steel stream@devout ridge @brave panther The SHITFUCK 2 is stranded on the moon

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the sucdide burn didn't go well

nimble shuttle
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Lmk when you see it.

pure garnet
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i see an ewaste optiplex

rigid veldt
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What’s the best build for 4500 aud

low sorrel
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the shitfuck 4 will save them a ll

nimble shuttle
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Id get 32 but yk. Ai ruined that

cosmic gazelle
hoary hatch
low sorrel
cosmic gazelle
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i think i’m gonna get one of these for funsies

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i already have the rest of the platform

hoary hatch
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bro if youre gonna mess with ewaste why would you pick the boring shit

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kaveri, or whatever iteration that is, is so boring

cosmic gazelle
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fun times

rigid veldt
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What gpu would I get with this

cosmic gazelle
hoary hatch
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oh wtf that is bristol ridge

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meh, its just DDR4 kaveri

cosmic gazelle
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ya that’s why

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i already have the whole system built

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it’s plug and play

rigid veldt
peak hornet
hoary hatch
cosmic gazelle
rigid veldt
brisk jolt
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rtx 6000 pro blackwell with 96GB VRAM

cosmic gazelle
hoary hatch
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brisk jolt
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either that or the MSI Lightning Z with 2500w vbios

peak hornet
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Let him have fun

cosmic gazelle
heavy spire
hoary hatch
pallid marsh
cosmic gazelle
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lol ig

brisk jolt
rigid veldt
cosmic gazelle
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5080 prolly

brisk jolt
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5070ti

cosmic gazelle
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oh nvm

hoary hatch
hoary hatch
cosmic gazelle
pallid marsh
hoary hatch
cosmic gazelle
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nah. cases were much less user friendly

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cases are much easier to build in now

peak hornet
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5070 if u want nvidia

rigid veldt
heavy spire
peak hornet
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But hard to fit in

peak hornet
cosmic gazelle
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brother why don’t you just get the most expensive nvidia card that fits within your budget

peak hornet
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Its like 1 grand

cosmic gazelle
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this is not a complicated issue

brisk jolt
heavy spire
brisk jolt
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its all about perspective

peak hornet
brisk jolt
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5070ti is rn like 1k USD or something
5080 is prob in the 1400s by now

peak hornet
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Everything will bottleneck it

brisk jolt
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what

peak hornet
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5070 for nvidia and 9070XT for price to performance and around same performance

brisk jolt
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5070 is gonna age better

heavy spire
wraith steeple
peak hornet
rigid veldt
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Take and run?

cosmic gazelle
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lol that’s not a great price really

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8gb ddr5 sticks are shitty

rigid veldt
heavy spire
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Stick with 2x16gb

rigid veldt
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Hell na

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Don’t got the money

heavy spire
rigid veldt
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Is 2x8 or 1x16 gb ddr5 better

rigid veldt
heavy spire
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A lot of games wants more than 16gb these days, especially if you got other things running in the background like discord and browsers and whatnot

rigid veldt
heavy spire
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You might end up murdering your 1% lows and get a bunch of stuttering in games with 16gb

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Depending on the game of course

rigid veldt
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Not many triple a games

heavy spire
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I dont get people who spend thousands of bucks on a brand new pc only to bottleneck the crap out of it by skimping on a relatively cheap part that might send their performance to hell in certain games

next ginkgo
cosmic gazelle
next ginkgo
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yep

heavy spire
next ginkgo
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DDR5 is two subchannels per channel, so it also suffers far less from single stick configurations

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so if money is tight right now, get one 16gb stick

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and get another one later. you sacrifice short term performance slightly but 32gb is far better in the longer term

pallid marsh
low sorrel
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I used to do that until a server admin yelled at me for "exploiting

pallid marsh
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lol

low sorrel
# pallid marsh lol

I think bro had people on the enemy team when I killed 100 tickets of vicd

brisk jolt
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@shell void do i refund or rma

trim agate
brisk jolt
trim agate
brisk jolt
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if shopee makes some bullshit reason again right

cosmic gazelle
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i wish shopgoodwill would SHIP MY SHIT

merry stirrup
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meow

cosmic gazelle
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i think i’m gonna join the evil empire if nobody bids on this floppa

brisk jolt
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someone needs to be touched

cosmic gazelle
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it’s either 4x8 or 4x2

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and also i’d be buying it because i want to oc an am3 apu not because i want bulldozer

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and am3 only motherboards are unreasonably expensive

cosmic gazelle
cosmic gazelle
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phew at least 3400 is fine

brisk jolt
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proceeds to error at 11:59:59

cosmic gazelle
vestal elbow
minor herald
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if have a 9005 cpu min to get best perfomince is 12x16GB but am5/lga1700/1851 its 2x16GB

minor herald
low sorrel
vestal elbow
minor herald
vestal elbow
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tbf there should be 2 types of profiling done to pull out the best for single rank and dual rank sticks

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also it's dual and not duel, as it's 2 ranks and not a fight

low sorrel
vestal elbow
low sorrel
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I was totally not inspired to play it from artemi

sturdy swift
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I need to run up my ksp save again

low sorrel
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I need this

topaz veldt
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Jerry when do you sleep

sturdy swift
low sorrel
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Also snail aren't you 3 hours ahead of me

topaz veldt
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I am in all timezones

devout ridge
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also this is the most concurrent players KSP has had since launch

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still no one playing the shit sequel

rigid veldt
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Is the Rx 9060 Xt or 5060ti 16gb better

devout ridge
brisk jolt
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5060ti

devout ridge
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you’re no fun

brisk jolt
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in fact it smokes both multiplied

devout ridge
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yes yes

rigid veldt
wise bear
keen wigeon
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yall nasty for buying MREs lol

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get you some buckets

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or a 10-22 breakdown and a pallet of .22

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the squirrels will be omnomnom

steel stream
cosmic gazelle
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i hate going to bed and seeing my karhu errored after like 55 minutes or some shit

frank zealot
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Here's one you never saw coming:
PCMR Hates Linus:

brisk jolt
cosmic gazelle
turbid locust
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I do find it ironic and tasteless

frank zealot
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Honestly the smartest move would have been to never mention the jet

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since I don't think they're doing the "Tech Jet"

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they should just have never mentioned it.

turbid locust
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Should’ve just never did it

frank zealot
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Also a solid option

eager notch
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Guys, which Windows powerplan mode should i use on 9800x3d?

turbid locust
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Any of em

frank zealot
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the power plan doesn't make that much of a difference

hoary hatch
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Akn I think I'm in love now

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2L-ILM 💜💜💜💜

eager notch
frank zealot
cosmic gazelle
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mac why is ddr4 so neurotic

cosmic gazelle
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with older processors with shitty power states it made more sense

eager notch
cosmic gazelle
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yes

topaz veldt
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I obviously do not care what someone does with their money, but the fact that he has highlighted the lack of increases and such for employees just to turn around and get a plane is a little conflicting. And sure, there are tax incentives to that, but there are also tax incentives to pay your employees more, etc.

cosmic gazelle
topaz veldt
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Thats irrelevant of the situation though

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There are people who worked for him for a long time who have expressed their motivation for leaving was compensation and a seat at the table

cosmic gazelle
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im aware

topaz veldt
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And then to be like "I GOT A PLANE" is a little ignorant

cosmic gazelle
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i would just be more personally offended if like, bringus studios was doing this

topaz veldt
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I duno what that is but we're in LTT discord

cosmic gazelle
cosmic gazelle
topaz veldt
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Ok but again that's irrelevant

cosmic gazelle
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it’s irrelevant to the like, general morality of the scenario or whatever. it’s certainly relevant to how much i actually care

topaz veldt
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Not trying to be obtuse but if you don't care then it doesn't apply lol

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so you don't need to say you don't care and how it doesn't matter to you

frank zealot
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from what Linus has said, it sounds like their pay structure for the bulk of employees is "Decent / reasonable" but not "great"

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Now, all said and done, even an extra 1.5 million a year in payroll would be around 10K dollars extra per-employee annually. (give or take, not counting what taxes come out of that.)

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so I don't know about the ongoing-costs of the jet, but I'm assuming maintenance and hangar space, etc. will not be insignificant

pure garnet
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jet also needs to be continually inspected

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if they try to open it up for commercial purposes it’s every 6 months

topaz veldt
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Its a fortune

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servicing, fueling, and storing a jet is insane

young void
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💸

steel stream
topaz veldt
frank zealot
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since the 9950x3d is 675ish

800-850ish sounds about right for the X3D2

topaz veldt
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I worry itll be $899-999

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with practically zero benefit

pure garnet
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amd has had their ks moments this gen

hoary hatch
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A cool, crisp, $999

brisk jolt
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dw 5nail will go in at 2pm and tell the MC employee

shell void
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either $899 or $949 MSRP, real world shelf price $1000+ for a little while at least

merry stirrup
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more ciggies then

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can’t say the british word for them here don’t try it

mortal isle
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Yeahhh i bought the VXE V3 pro and gonna do a review about it when gonna arrive

merry stirrup
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good mouse

mortal isle
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yeah for 22$ is solid

merry stirrup
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what color did you get because that’s much more important

pure garnet
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i need a superstrike so bad

mortal isle
merry stirrup
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boooo

mortal isle
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:(

pure garnet
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the purple looks nice

mortal isle
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i know

pure garnet
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that shape is not mine at all though

merry stirrup
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purple is nice yeah

mortal isle
merry stirrup
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yeah idk i wouldn’t buy one but i know they’re decent mouse

pure garnet
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im really just debating between viper v4 pro or superstrike

mortal isle
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i wanted to buy the stock V3 but was only in white and that AI chip i don't know what's that lol

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and the pro was only with 3-5$ more

frank zealot
# topaz veldt I worry itll be $899-999

the x3d is about 150 USD more than the non-x3d.
So assuming that the cache core is worth about 150 more, then 825ish is ballpark for that.

IDK Where they'd get the extra 100-200 bucks to go to 900-1K USD

pure garnet
#

their sales lead letting them do it

frank zealot
#

since I don't think there'd be that much more engineering to put 2 existing CCDs onto a substrate

brisk jolt
#

im just that down in the dumpster

topaz veldt
#

lol is it bad you get texts from Micro Center in miami?

merry stirrup
brisk jolt
#

you’re the plan B, C, D,

#

ah yes asus texting me at almost midnight

steel stream
merry stirrup
#

tiktoker

steel stream
#

ah

#

im too unc for that

#

akn876 is washed

merry stirrup
#

i know you watch people die on reels instead

steel stream
#

nah I deleted instagram because I was spending way too much time on it

merry stirrup
#

oh 💀

steel stream
#

but my reels algorithm was exactly as you expect when I did use it

cosmic gazelle
#

floppa i dont even think this ram can do 4-4-16 rrds

brisk jolt
#

idk why my algorithm does not want to just remove valorant from my feed like

cosmic gazelle
#

whelp found it

steel stream
#

my algorithm was not indicative of being a good person

wraith steeple
#

Speaking of algorithms YT's is comically broken

sharp heart
wraith steeple
pure garnet
#

linux gaming is not it man

pure garnet
#

yeah man

steel stream
#

@shell void this is the content I like to see

frail beacon
# pure garnet yeah man

Let me be a toxic linux dude on reddit
"This issue is because you are not using Bazzite. Remove your OS, and install Bazzite to fix this."
or
"Enter these 10 lines into the terminal and it will fix it"

smoky orbit
#

Anyone knows how I could depin the psu’s cables from the end connectors without the tool I don’t want to make an Amazon purchase just for that

shell void
pure garnet
#

$899 🤣

topaz veldt
#

New it

steel stream
wraith steeple
steel stream
#

or probably while eating dinner

pure garnet
#

30% more for some useless cache and a gray box

patent gorge
#

"useless cache" blobcatfacepalm

pure garnet
#

the cherry picked benchmarks are 7% better

#

if you're using all 16 cores you're also bound by fclk

patent gorge
#

phoronix tests have shown that there are MANY multithreaded workloads that benefit heavily from x3d

wraith steeple
#

Screw X3D, I got myself a K5 PR166 on the wayNinoPog

patent gorge
#

but as usual, people who only play games and know jack shit about other workflows just call everything that doesn't increase their game fps "useless"

pure garnet
#

sorry which of these 3 announcements are benchmarks

patent gorge
#

you see that from 9950X3D vs 9950X results

pure garnet
#

lmfao

#

so they didn't measure it yet

patent gorge
#

of course they didn't, it's not out yet lol

#

but for multithreaded workflows, if 8 non-x3d cores + 8 x3d cores heavily outperformed just 16 non-x3d cores, then logically 16 x3d cores would also be a decent bump in performance for those workloads

pure garnet
#

the amd slides show barely a difference and these are what they're selling it on

steel stream
#

we've come full circle

pure garnet
#

because unsurprisingly, we're bound by fclk cross ccd

#

thank you for this grand lesson

patent gorge
wraith steeple
#

AyyMD pulling an Anakin from Episode 3 superjerry

steel stream
#

"but as usual, people who only play games and know jack shit about other workflows just call everything that doesn't increase their game fps "useless"" as an Intel fan, I don't understand why people think that AMD is crushing Intel, X3D doesn't automatically mean OP cpu, Intel cpus can still punch their weight in multi-threaded workflows

patent gorge
pure garnet
#

i didn't know march fantasyland was a valid compiler option

patent gorge
pure garnet
#

and then get double the actual multicore performance trol

steel stream
#

we've come full circle in complaints is all

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imo AMD just wanted to be the first one to launch dual cache

patent gorge
#

my only point is that there are cases where the X3D2 should make sense (pending reviews of course), and just because it doesn't for you doesn't mean it's an useless product geblobcatshrug

wraith steeple
steel stream
pure garnet
#

well no you went down the path of we people only game when none of their benches show 30% price increase worth of improvement

patent gorge
#

also what ignorant people said about zen 5 - calling it zen 5% because for some games it only game 5% performance gain, whereas for some professional workloads it gave like 40% bump lol

shell void
#

it’s okay you will be free from Ryzen nonsense next year when you can purchase big cache nova lake

pure garnet
#

52 cores of american freedom

pure garnet
patent gorge
pure garnet
#

the professional market and their strix am5 boards

patent gorge
#

threadripper/epyc/xeon is not the best fit for every professional task

#

plus it's still cheap compared to building a threadripper system

green marsh
#

it's just it feels stupid to spend 9k at home AI 😄

patent gorge
#

couldn't be me blobcatwhistle

green marsh
#

even 3k for Strix Point with 128GB RAM is questionable

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(me looking at B70 Pro 32GB as my maximum)

pure garnet
#

that's past questionable already

patent gorge
#

at least compared to dedicated GPUs

smoky orbit
pure garnet
#

we went from compute to curious george on a typewritter use cases again cat_dark

green marsh
patent gorge
#

but there are some use cases where it makes sense. some developers just need to test locally that it works, and need the vram for that, but since it's just testing and will run on proper servers in production, the performance is less relevant

pure garnet
#

the 9950x3d2's largest selling point is the task manager screenshot

patent gorge
pure garnet
#

what outdated uarch still has smt

#

52 real cores 🔥

green marsh
#

i mean i can live with dual 1080 TI setup as my local LLM setup at ~200t/s prompt processing and 8-15t/s token generation with Qwen3.5-27B. If i can pump that up to ~800-1000t/s PP and 30+ t/s token generation, it will be awesome for local AI

patent gorge
#

yea there are definitely a lot of use cases where it's fine

#

the specific things I personally run wouldn't make much sense with much lower processing power, but everyone uses them for different purposes

#

OCR of complex images can be slow af blobcatsweats

steel stream
pure garnet
#

okay so 2 270k+ chips and 2 z890 tufs from newegg is $1100

wraith steeple
#

ما شاء الله prayallah

pure garnet
#

so you would have to step down to 250ks to get 2 cpus for the price of 1

steel stream
#

how do I open the advancements in minecraft again

pure garnet
#

pretty sure that's still more multi perf though for the money

topaz veldt
pure garnet
#

oh i know

hoary hatch
#

Not for several years

#

Leading edge TSMC is Taiwan only

pure garnet
#

but apparently having steam installed on your computer means that you can never utilize more than 8 cores

pure garnet
# hoary hatch Lol no

i'd be surprised if the tsmc arizona fab was even up and running in volume before nvl came out

hoary hatch
#

I think wafers were shipping at end of 2024?

pure garnet
#

i must be thinking of ohio

hoary hatch
#

Ohio is intel

#

And that's just gonna be a shell for a long time

steel stream
hoary hatch
#

Or maybe Elon will fill out the Ohio shell

pure garnet
steel stream
hoary hatch
#

There's no tools there rn

#

Just a shell

#

I think fab62 is still only a shell

steel stream
#

can you tell someone to get tools there so i can take a tour

steel stream
#

lip butt man

wraith steeple
steel stream
#

please don't tell him i said that I want to work there

#

not the ohio plant just the company

pure garnet
#

bring back king pat

hoary hatch
#

Musk and LBT acknowledged each other's existence this week
So maybe if Musk continues to want to piss away money on fabs he'll do something with Intel to fill out the Ohio site

wraith steeple
#

I would be happy working anywhere in this field at this point

hoary hatch
#

On silicon design or manufacturing

pure garnet
#

my local tech stuff is so fried my leading job is at a car dealer

steel stream
wraith steeple
#

Sadly SE MI ain't much better

hoary hatch
#

Wait a single v cache die is worth $200?

pure garnet
#

that’s a 7600x3d retail so doubt it

hoary hatch
#

Tbh I thought 9950x3d2 was gonna be a grand

#

$900 is good value

cosmic gazelle
#

fuck it

#

ryzen 3 7300x3d2

pure garnet
#

270k+ for 349 🔥

#

it was too powerful at $299

cosmic gazelle
#

better luck next time larper

#

(it’s a 9950x3d2 that only has 2 working cores per ccd btw)

pure garnet
#

don’t worry as long as the workload is exactly the same size as the cache and never has to touch ram and you’re using clear linux intel is DEMOLISHED

#

and never has to cross a ccd*

cosmic gazelle
#

shhh you’re thinking too hard about it

pure garnet
#

we need a new io die so bad

#

and fclk needs to go away

hoary hatch
#

NVL single tile bLLC gonna be too powerful

cosmic gazelle
#

i need a new memory die this shit sucks

#

6-6-24 failed

hoary hatch
pure garnet
#

according to people smarter than me 2.6ghz d2d can sustain 9000mt ram fine

hoary hatch
#

Please Ryzen team
Listen to your Radeon brethren and fuck this up 🤞

pure garnet
#

meanwhile zen 5 is trapped at 4400

merry stirrup
#

67

pure garnet
cosmic gazelle
#

this is worse than my mismatched ddr3 dude

steel stream
#

W i missed the bus

cosmic gazelle
#

trying 6-8-24 now with 1.9 vdd18

steel stream
hoary hatch
#

😈

steel stream
pure garnet
#

no drivers on a new product is the amd way

hoary hatch
#

"new" ""product""

pure garnet
#

they sell the xbox ally with no driver updates

#

i want nova lake to be good so i don’t have to daily amd anymore

steel stream
hoary hatch
pure garnet
#

it’s in my other system though rn

hoary hatch
#

Oh...mmo

frank zealot
hoary hatch
#

You can recover from this

low sorrel
#

i was like what does momo have to do with this

hoary hatch
#

Em em oh

pure garnet
#

going 9800x3d -> 265k shaved off 30fps in towns and made frame times icky

#

so nova lake bllc is my stop for a daily system

hoary hatch
#

Did you try 12000MT/s and 8GHz D2D

pure garnet
#

no my shoddy chip can’t do 9000 g2

hoary hatch
#

I've not tried beyond 8200 G2

#

Do I just type in bigger number and send it

steel stream
young void
fringe vigil
#

I been waiting my whole life

#

For this one night

hoary hatch
young void
#

Thats fair outside of benchs or quick pics i just run expo/xmp

#

Just a for funsies thing

shell void
pure garnet
#

vccoig,vccclk, sa, vdd2, cpu tx

#

and about 95 other voltages

#

my daily system will be a hero at jedec or very low effort tune

steel stream
topaz veldt
pure garnet
#

also the new crafting hub was hit the hardest by far

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
pure garnet
merry stirrup
#

i don’t want the 265K of despair and shame

pure garnet
#

i need to order the superstrike

merry stirrup
pure garnet
#

2 days till the 980ti arrives

merry stirrup
#

incredible

smoky orbit
merry stirrup
#

@pure garnet the x870e tommy is the same as our crap b850 vc’s pcb wise btw

#

no wonder it can do 8400 lol

pure garnet
#

oh interesting

cosmic gazelle
pure garnet
#

has anyone ordered from logitech directly before

#

they have the superstrike in stock but nobody else does

frank zealot
#

oh, oh no...
Jay decided "I need to make a video to get clear information out about a problem"

That's gonna be entertaining

topaz veldt
#

Yeah watching now

#

"Old people making laws.."

#

yeah I would normally agree but not this time

wise bear
#

$1000 TV with a 100m nic

#

Bruh.

#

Wifi? 600mbs down and 240 up

merry stirrup
#

normal

wise bear
#

Hate

abstract saddle
#

i was about to say could it be something related to processor power or whatever but nope nevermind lol

merry stirrup
#

it’s not its tv makers being cheap/dumb

#

expect most people to use wifi so why put gigabit nic

wise bear
#

Because I wanted to wire my tv

analog scroll
#

my RT3090 gets higher speeds than that I'm pretty sure

abstract saddle
#

sadly 100mbps ports are commonplace on tvs, i never understood why but I always use my TV as a display never as a smart tv so i never ran into that problem

wise bear
#

Well this is a TV being used as a TV and as a display

abstract saddle
#

question

#

does a dongle work

smoky orbit
#

Yeah, was about to ask

abstract saddle
#

i never tried it but could you use a usb to ethernet dongle to get internet to your tv lmao

wise bear
#

I mean I do have USB 3

analog scroll
#

I think its a port issue tho

abstract saddle
#

probably wouldnt work cause drivers and yada yada but worth a try

analog scroll
#

but yeah try a usb wifi adapter

merry stirrup
smoky orbit
hoary hatch
#

It's pretty silly that TVs only use 100Mbps ports
But also TVs don't need more than 100Mbps

abstract saddle
wise bear
analog scroll
#

the ethernet port

abstract saddle
analog scroll
#

can only do 100mbs

abstract saddle
#

i forgot

abstract saddle
hoary hatch
#

Why are we re reviewing 5 year old processors

merry stirrup
#

computers r boring carter

#

where nvl where bllc

smoky orbit
shell void
cosmic gazelle
#

he actually made the 12900k look pretty good compared to the 5800

#

price for price the 12900 with ddr5 is probably about the same value for gaming and way better for anything else

merry stirrup
#

no person with sense would actually choose the 5800x3d

#

however idk yeah it’s popular af

#

glaze o matic

shell void
#

both of those CPUs are mega overpriced today

merry stirrup
#

yes

cosmic gazelle
#

12900k can also quite easily overclock (right?) and erase any gains the 5800 had so there’s that

shell void
#

14600KF is the DDR4 play usually

merry stirrup
#

13600/14600K is indeed the play

cosmic gazelle
#

oh nvm

#

this is pretty decent if you are really on a strict budget

#

i know buying es chips is not ideal don’t lecture me lol

merry stirrup
#

ES is fine but it wouldn’t be something i’d like in my server for example

cosmic gazelle
#

but for a gaming system that’s pretty solid value

merry stirrup
#

i’m trading my 13900KS for a 12900KS because mines delidded and degraded

smoky orbit
merry stirrup
#

@pure garnet ❤️

cosmic gazelle
#

oh 14600kfs are 200 bucks that’s really not bad

#

wait

#

at 200 bucks isn’t a 245 still better

#

platform cost is worse ig

topaz veldt
#

Yes the ARL options are better

#

EOL socket on both

cosmic gazelle
#

245kfs are $170 now

frank zealot
#

isn't the 250K Plus 200?

cosmic gazelle
#

oh the kf is actually available for 200

#

i had assumed it was more tbh

topaz veldt
#

If you aren't getting a 270K Plus what are you even doing

hoary hatch
cosmic gazelle
#

regular zen 3?

hoary hatch
#

You said 5800 which is zen3

pure garnet
hoary hatch
#

Unless you meant 5800x3d which is a very different product

cosmic gazelle
#

bro the thumbnail showing the x3d is 3 messages higher 😭

pure garnet
#

all they had was a $12 gpw shape clone

hoary hatch
#

Yeah but you said 5800

cosmic gazelle
#

i was discussing a video that was literally posted 3 messages earlier?

hoary hatch
#

But you said 5800

cosmic gazelle
#

context clues my man

steel stream
#

anybody got tips and tricks for wii sports golf

smoky orbit
cosmic gazelle
hoary hatch
smoky orbit
steel stream
cosmic gazelle
cosmic gazelle
pure garnet
hoary hatch
#

I haven't watched the video
For all I know the Aussie also included the regular ass 5800

steel stream
pure garnet
#

logitech direct has stock but idk how much i trust them direct

cosmic gazelle
hoary hatch
steel stream
merry stirrup
#

never gonna shill them again

#

(my local bb probably has it)

steel stream
cosmic gazelle
#

yo kyoko does setting manual nitro settings automatically mean you can’t mcr?

green marsh
cosmic gazelle
#

or does micron just not like it

frank zealot
#

Honestly I gotta say, these are respectable stats:

Drive's at least 3.5-4 years old

hoary hatch
cosmic gazelle
#

so i think mines better

hoary hatch
#

TIL that's a thing

green marsh
hoary hatch
#

Was a thing

frank zealot
cosmic gazelle
#

no i meant tera

#

it’s a piece of shit

frank zealot
#

sounds like a super failed drive

#

assuming reads are double writes on here?
This drive is only at 50% of expected TBW already

steel stream
green marsh
frank zealot
pure garnet
steel stream
frank zealot
#

firesticks are way faster (cpu wise) than most TVs

hoary hatch
cosmic gazelle
frank zealot
#

which is a really sad statement, given that firesticks ain't exactly fast

hoary hatch
#

Plus you can just use the faster on board wifi if you really need it

#

Or just get an apple tv 4k

steel stream
steel stream
hoary hatch
steel stream
hoary hatch
#

Apple tv powered by M5

steel stream
#

so just mac mini with tv os

hoary hatch
#

Why doesn't the studio display run Mac os

#

It's got more resources than MacBook neo

hoary hatch
#

Wireless screen sharing?

frank zealot
#

you obvi need higher than 10gbps networking to do 4K 60fps lol

#

(tell that to netflix streaming 4K 30 at sub 40mbps lol)

steel stream
steel stream
frank zealot
# hoary hatch Huhhhh

I can only assume he's think of the uncompressed data rate on an HDMI cable being equal to what you need to stream

low sorrel
#

Wow arch install is so much easier then doing it manually

pure garnet
#

who would’ve thought an automated installer was easier than manual configuration

merry stirrup
#

wow

hoary hatch
frank zealot
#

Aside from the bad AI:
Who at this intersection has the right of way?

(Trick Q: Obviously it's the beamer)

hoary hatch
#

Depends, is that an Altima?

#

Oh I didn't see the bmw comment

#

Wait is it actually a bmw

#

For once the source file is as compressed as the discord android embed

pure garnet
#

if the bumper is damaged they have right of way because i’m not getting in a crash

hoary hatch
#

Wait is that fucking ai slop

frank zealot
hoary hatch
#

I got got thinking it was photoshopped

#

I didn't read 90% of what you daid

frank zealot
#

I mean, all of the vehicles are magically in the middle of each side

#

which means nobody's driving by anyone else

hoary hatch
#

Well it's definitely not a real photo but like non AI image creation has existed for decades lol

smoky orbit
#

(It’s oriented towards the ambo)

frank zealot
hoary hatch
#

If it's an AMR ambulance they would be last for right of way

smoky orbit
frank zealot
#

although my opinion:
Nobody's gonna stop the firetriuck if the driver wants to go

#

he's triple the mass (or more) of the ambulance

#

although TRUE STORY TIME:

I was on my way to school one day, pulling up to a red light, and I saw a cop car and an ambulance coming up from behind me. So I go all the way onto the shoulder, like a proper driver.

Ambo's in the left lane, cop car's in the right lane.

Everyone's got all the pinball lights going.

Ambo goes to turn right, directly in front of the cop car.

Cop car's going straight and does not try to stop.

Cop car plows directly into the engine of the ambulance, ripping off the front bumper and other parts of it

#

that was a royally fucked up experience

vestal granite
#

just installed a ryzen 7950x3d in crimson desert

cosmic gazelle
#

@merry stirrup confirmed that this shit will only do 8-8-32 😭

vestal granite
#

also all of this ancient sky ruins stuff looks like that 3d printed concrete stuff to me

pure garnet
#

@merry stirrup microcenter has it but the shipping is so expensive 😭

frank zealot
#

This sounds like an interesting game mechanic

#

okay discord, thanks for ruining THAT image

#

oh hey, that's legible

pure garnet
#

okay we good

pure garnet
#

and $20 in tax.

merry stirrup
#

that’s terrible

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

50% of the product in fees

pure garnet
#

i have never been so offended by a brick and mortar store before

#

so i ordered direct from logitech with my uni days discount

merry stirrup
#

oh fire

pure garnet
#

183 out the door for express shipping

merry stirrup
#

okay still bad but i guess it’s fine

pure garnet
#

so amazon would've been more

turbid locust
#

9950X3D2 $899 LOOOOOOOOOOOL

merry stirrup
pure garnet
merry stirrup
#

in floppacoin

#

show ur ledger rn bro

young void
#

A solid dive especially for my ram peeps

merry stirrup
#

tried to watch it but she started explaining trfc and i figured i was overqualified

pure garnet
#

tighten trfc? sleep
waste cpu cycles? real shit

merry stirrup
#

bro i’m wasting my own cpu cycles rn

#

didn’t bring the ocf on bench to work today and i regret it

#

slow day the builders are not locked in

pure garnet
merry stirrup
#

but nothing if i’m being truly honest

#

i5 8250u and 12gb ram+ 1050 4gb

#

i don’t even have the am4 machine in the bench

#

err in da rig*

pure garnet
#

when i feel whimsical enough to do it i’ll swap the master into the bench