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mortal isle
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and looks pretty damn good in my opinion

devout ridge
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It's extremely non-performant and low fidelity

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GPU accelerated ray tracing is better in every way, assuming you aren't using a 9 year old GPU

mortal isle
devout ridge
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Given your GPU flat out does not support GPU accelerated ray tracing, it's software ray tracing

devout ridge
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Yes, It really is

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Modern integrated graphics curb stomp your GPU and run laps around it

mortal isle
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probably my GPU is older then 80% of Fortnite players age lmao

mortal isle
devout ridge
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Yes, and has been for several years now

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the RX580 on day 1 of release wasn't even that great

mortal isle
devout ridge
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Yes...

mortal isle
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...

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T-Then how old is the gtx 460 i had back in the day?

pure garnet
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the rx580 has been dated for so long that it’s not even a factor in new games

devout ridge
mortal isle
frank zealot
mortal isle
pure garnet
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the 580 was old when i was buying a zen 2 system

merry stirrup
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yes!

mortal isle
merry stirrup
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i had a 580 5 years ago in 2020

frank zealot
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you can assume a new CPU/GPU generation drops every 2 years or so.

And we've had a lot of things since then.

RX 9000, 7000, 6000, 5000

pure garnet
mortal isle
pure garnet
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that in a hwbot ln2 sub would go insanely hard

frank zealot
merry stirrup
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580s should be able to do like top 10 or top 5 on ambient idk

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my 570 is top 18 for timespy

mortal isle
pure garnet
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where you gotta upload a bench pic

merry stirrup
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ohh ohh like a cpu sub my bad

mortal isle
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i thought the 6600 is like 2-3 years old and my gpu is like 5 but 9!! is crazy

frank zealot
pure garnet
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your card lost driver updates almost 5 years ago

pure garnet
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you got a zillion cheap upgrade paths

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6600xt or something

mortal isle
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the i3 9100

pure garnet
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nowhere to go but up

mortal isle
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Okay so just switch to like a i3 14100f or i5 12100f or go with am4 but am4 is old

pure garnet
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both of the platforms you listed are old

mortal isle
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like the i3 14100f is like only 2 years old right?

pure garnet
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its just a rebadged 12100f

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same die, same stepping

mortal isle
pure garnet
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raptor is from 2022

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either way zen 3 or alder/raptor are sizable upgrades so

mortal isle
mortal isle
mortal isle
brisk jolt
mortal isle
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i am still shocked my GPU is 9 years old..

brisk jolt
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time flies

mortal isle
gentle urchin
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DDR6 when

shell void
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2030 for consumers

topaz veldt
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yawn

turbid locust
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Enough time for me to get good at DDR5 OC and then it becomes irrelevant

civic reef
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I want to stream at 8k120 FPS on discord for my friends to see my epic Fortnite skills, do I need a $1000 ElGato USB capture card or a 5090 with a PCIe x1 to x16 adapter/riser?

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Bitrate is 800Mb/s

topaz veldt
civic reef
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(Please understand that this is /s)

shell void
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nvidia app update with framegen 2.0 override tomorrow

turbid locust
wraith steeple
turbid locust
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Easier on some platforms than others

topaz veldt
turbid locust
shell void
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nvidia app beta update available tomorrow with the option to override FG2.0 into supported games

civic reef
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Imagine how a 5060 m will perform with dynamic FG

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Would legitimately be pretty usable at 1440p oh wow

wraith steeple
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She's fully circulating lads! Let's fucking goooooo

civic reef
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Nice work mate

low sorrel
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Huge

civic reef
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Since I am buying a laptop, which should definitely handle it at atleast 1440p medium with its specs

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Could I run raids with you when I do get it

pure garnet
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with a 5060 mobile i'd stay at 1080p tbh

frank zealot
wraith steeple
pure garnet
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my g14 is a 4050 model with a 1440p display so the dgpu has aged like milk in anything that isn't a super light title

civic reef
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Would pretty much be running 960p

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Upscaled to 1600p

pure garnet
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no you'd be running ~1080p internal at dlss quality then

civic reef
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Wait no that's the 5070 model, which is only if my salary returns to full range

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5060 is 1200p

civic reef
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Oh wait this is 1600p

pure garnet
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for 16:9 panels

civic reef
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Lemme consult the chart I downloaded

pure garnet
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target res * preset = internal res
q =0.67
b = 0.58
p = 0.5
up = 0.33

mortal isle
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I wanted to say why fsr is so bad but my GPU is fucking 9 years old so doesn't have fsr 4.1 only this 3.1 or what is the name of it

civic reef
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According to this, 1440p would render at 960p, which is 66.6%

1600p * 0.666 is 1065.. Almost 1080p

civic reef
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I forgot this panel was 1600p not 1440p

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And, additionally, 1200p would be rendering at 792p

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Not awful

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Though at 1200p I'd probably be running native

mortal isle
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Oh wow i have frame generation on this old ass card

frank zealot
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this is terrifying lol

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looks like it's still a 120mm fan, but... jeez that looks sketch

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4 heat pipes, so it could be worse

topaz veldt
fringe vigil
turbid locust
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Jorj thinks the gta strippers like him

low sorrel
devout ridge
civic reef
cosmic gazelle
low sorrel
cosmic gazelle
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this thing is 26 bucks on ali which is horrible value but i kinda wanna try it anyways

low sorrel
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@pure garnet what distro do i install on my laptop

pure garnet
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windows 11 ltsc

frank zealot
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... 90mm fans? wtf

low sorrel
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idk if i wanna do arch again or try something else

steel stream
low sorrel
pure garnet
low sorrel
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last time i did it was over a year ago now

teal orbit
pure garnet
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should take under an hour if you pull up the wiki

pure garnet
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there exists no good linux desktop distro but i wanted g++ for homework

teal orbit
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mingw

civic reef
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Source is Ocypus Malaysia

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This is the Digital ver but I don't think it's different from the normal one

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Tl;dr
120mm fan

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Nvm found the standard one

steel stream
tranquil finch
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guys, i have 2 1tb nvme ssds and i want to install windows on the fatser one, how to do it? i dont want to install it on the wrong one

shell void
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the ai bros need everything

turbid locust
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boycott micron btw

steel stream
turbid locust
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both because their ICs are ass but also because they sold out on consumers

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Hynix and Sammy all day

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I need more china dram tho

steel stream
tranquil finch
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i need to take out it

shell void
maiden depot
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can we ask ai to make games and run it cause sometimes a window showing our code come in the side

shell void
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just buy whatever is fairly priced or most performant

steel stream
maiden depot
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i dunno man anything for those gpu power

pure garnet
low sorrel
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@topaz veldt if you had to put 45 ACP into video game ammo types is it medium or light ammo

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Given that 5.56 is medium

low sorrel
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That's what I'm saying

topaz veldt
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its pistol ammo

pure garnet
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i somehow doubt these claims

low sorrel
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Yeah but my friends are like but it's heavier then 5.56

shell void
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what could they replace a Pat bin i9 with? nothing meaningfully better has released

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why sell?

pure garnet
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apparently they used z690 unify

shell void
shell void
pure garnet
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i did not

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i saw him beat my ycruncher score though

shell void
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his audience is based

fringe vigil
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Snail don’t fw me like that anymore? He ignored me

pure garnet
shell void
pure garnet
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bro actually got out the unc x3d just to down me specifically fr fr

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i think it's his daily system 😭

topaz veldt
topaz veldt
turbid locust
wraith steeple
turbid locust
steel stream
wraith steeple
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Sneak peak before I torture myself with cleaning up and cable management

turbid locust
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like how in depth do you really need to go on a mobo

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Does it have enough VRM oomph to power the best chip? Does it ram clock well? Does it have not shit IO? Ggez done that’s like a 5 min video

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I always found the Mobo breakdown videos boring af

brisk jolt
turbid locust
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optimal

brisk jolt
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mobo breakdowns=high cortisol

turbid locust
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like call me crazy but I don’t really care about which model capacitors or chokes my motherboard has

brisk jolt
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because regardless you know you need to disable VRM throttling on the very basic budget board

steel stream
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like when you go down the RAM OC rabbithole is it really that far fetched to start caring about capacitor models and stuff

pure garnet
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i find the breakdowns interesting

turbid locust
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Like his ram videos tell me everything I need to know about whatever board he’s using lol

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any motherboard decision I’ve ever made was me looking at the product page for maybe 10 mins

pure garnet
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part of why i bought a tomahawk originally was the videos he made on it, including the pcb video

turbid locust
brisk jolt
turbid locust
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well, apparently the B850Mpower wasn’t released in the EU

pure garnet
turbid locust
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I love that the generation I bought an Apex finally is the generation it’s not the best at ram oc lmao

brisk jolt
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Im gonna delete GCC and hope it doesnt reset my GPU’s RGB settings and fuck zero rpm mode again

pure garnet
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it may do auto terms better but it’s donkey for anything else

steel stream
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shoutout to minecraft opening like this

pure garnet
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tiktok mode

steel stream
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I should record gameplay and upload it to youtube

brisk jolt
young void
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Hrmmm linkthink

brisk jolt
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“i was gonna buy a 5090 but I need to upgrade my psu so i got a 5050”

young void
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I try to aim for 80% util on most psu give or take under high load so like 1200 for my 900w-ish build. Not that it really matters as long as within its limits but meh

turbid locust
cosmic gazelle
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when's somebody in here gonna do a 5050 shunt mod

young void
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I myte be stalking aces and heros for a extreme open box sale

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notes apex for mac

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480 ain't quite there but soon mayhaps, heros 402

turbid locust
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board is wildly overpriced for what it is ngl

young void
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Facts I aim for mid 200s for high end boards tbh

turbid locust
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barely ram clocks better than an mpower for triple the price

pure garnet
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i stuck the doohickey bracket in my case to hold up the trio for giggles

young void
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They do sag alittle on the right without supports

cosmic gazelle
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does every single shipping service in yalls area also overpromise on their delivery window every single time and then you sit there waiting around for nothing

brisk jolt
young void
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Most the time amazon and usps is on time in my area at least bless

mortal isle
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guys do you guys have a cool game like a free one or even a demo i am so bored right now i don't know what to do

cosmic gazelle
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even usps moved my window from “8:30 to 12:30” to “by 2pm”

young void
cosmic gazelle
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like beat your employee harder bro, break traffic laws, give him drugs that allow him to not take breaks

young void
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Think theres a free one

mortal isle
cosmic gazelle
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i could never get into poe it’s so hard to be good

pure garnet
young void
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Its like a Diablo esc , or maybe could try cod mobile on your phone idk

brisk jolt
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I await my RE9 code

young void
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I like to drive trucks and insta down squads with it

cosmic gazelle
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that’s like customer satisfaction 101

pure garnet
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well usps is basically immune so they don't care

cosmic gazelle
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fedex does it to me more than usps does

mortal isle
fleet marsh
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I went from b650 to x780e. And Microsoft wants me to put in a new password. But when I try it says you'll need internet for this. What do I do lol

shadow zenith
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Huh, ain't that interesting

pure garnet
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and then use pnp /add-driver "path goes here" /install

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if the drivers are in inf format

rare bison
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🥱 cleaned it out and now my boot device isn't showing up

pure garnet
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that would imply you didnt plug it back in properly

rare bison
pure garnet
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which would be the same thing basically

rare bison
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Which is weird cause my sata SSD shouldn't have my boot partition on cause that has linux on it

pure garnet
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did you leave the drive in when you installed windows

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if windows finds an esp it dumps the bootloader in there

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that's why i pull my linux drive when i reinstall windows

cosmic gazelle
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kyoko in your experience what ram settings are likely to kill windows installs if you set them to stupid values

steel stream
pure garnet
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eg my 9000 attempts

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the os is usually pretty resilient

cosmic gazelle
pure garnet
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i mean don’t daily something that errors but

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if karhu fails at 3am and you’re asleep till 9 it won’t die probably

cosmic gazelle
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i’m just gonna be setting voltages and primary timings to some shit like 18-18-18-43 and raising frequency until it won’t post

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so shouldn’t be an issue

cosmic gazelle
low sorrel
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@pallid marsh fricking German mains don't know how to angle their armor

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Also get gunner heat pc

low sorrel
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That's the name of the game

steel stream
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i see

granite dirge
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Does a cable have a big difference on the speed something charges between types of USB

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My arm is low battery. And I am trying to just get through the next 3 hours and 9 mins

devout oxide
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should my friend choose VA or IPS for daily use and gaming

low sorrel
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Like I'm intrepting this like 3 different ways

granite dirge
# low sorrel Explain again

Trying to charge my arm. I don't know if the cables are like usb2-3 or what ever and I am trying to keep my arm not dead

low sorrel
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Your arm?

pure garnet
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<@&750150305383186585> the usual scam

steel stream
granite dirge
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USB a cables.

young void
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Shadow realmed

low sorrel
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Usb A only supports 15w charging

granite dirge
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I don't think we sell c cables at Ikea

steel stream
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C to C cables can do up to 240w iirc

low sorrel
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^

steel stream
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USB-A is up to 15W like jerry said, but depends on version

low sorrel
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Any usb a cable made within the past few years is probably 15w

granite dirge
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Welp let's see how this goes.

steel stream
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godspeed 🫡

steel stream
steel stream
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a real engineer got their hands on it

brave panther
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one scratch and it catches on fire

steel stream
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it'll be just fine

edgy laurel
steel stream
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probably

steel stream
edgy laurel
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I don't think its going to be what people expect

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and may turn off tom scott fans

steel stream
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I'll be watching later when I'm eating dinner probs

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i mean he said these videos were just going to essentially be cool things he did around england right

fringe vigil
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whats fort lauderdale

steel stream
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it's a place in florida

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a very popular spring break spot for college students

low sorrel
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Jorj

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How are you more lost then me

topaz veldt
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@turbid locust fuck this thing - went 13 hrs no issues, back on same tune, 3 hours before failing 8800

fringe vigil
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why is miami just so care free

steel stream
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happy people

fringe vigil
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no theyre all rich

topaz veldt
topaz veldt
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damn they are almost done one of the most baller parts of my patio

fringe vigil
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how much is it to rent a yatch

low sorrel
topaz veldt
fringe vigil
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on avg

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how much

topaz veldt
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there's no such thing @fringe vigil

fringe vigil
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wha

indigo walrus
fringe vigil
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yatch for like a party or something for the night

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till about 3am

topaz veldt
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because a 50' bertram and a 50' viking are like $4M apart

pallid marsh
topaz veldt
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My 35' is like $450k invoice a 35' yellowtail is like $220k, they don't rent the same

indigo walrus
fringe vigil
topaz veldt
fringe vigil
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like 2k for a night for a party is decent

topaz veldt
pallid marsh
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Smoll

topaz veldt
fringe vigil
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thats kinda small

indigo walrus
pallid marsh
topaz veldt
fringe vigil
topaz veldt
fringe vigil
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sheet

limpid tapir
topaz veldt
indigo walrus
topaz veldt
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100' boat is also way too much for 12 people

hoary hatch
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Yoooo

fringe vigil
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how do people get onto mega yatch partys

hoary hatch
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Samsung doing RISC-V SSD controllers
Why does this have me excited for a QLC drive

young void
fringe vigil
pallid marsh
uneven vigil
young void
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Offer them a brew idk

fringe vigil
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maybe i can befriend them

topaz veldt
pallid marsh
cosmic gazelle
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well boys

indigo walrus
hoary hatch
# hoary hatch Samsung doing RISC-V SSD controllers Why does this have me excited for a **QLC**...
cosmic gazelle
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i really proved myself to be a complete dumbass today

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i bought a motherboard for apu oc that doesn’t have a display out

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because i assumed they all did

young void
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Itll be alright now you know to check at least

cosmic gazelle
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that’s just such a damn stupid mistake

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i can’t believe it

young void
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Itll getcha

topaz veldt
young void
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Sparks always says get the one with the io ya need

topaz veldt
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XOC/OC mobos don't have the best IO

cosmic gazelle
turbid locust
young void
topaz veldt
steel stream
topaz veldt
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I have been busy

steel stream
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my package appears to be playing pinball with the state of michigan

green marsh
steel stream
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i live near the lansing area so idk whats going on

cosmic gazelle
pure garnet
pure garnet
steel stream
pure garnet
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fake intel fan

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resolve that immediately (i also skipped)

steel stream
pure garnet
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i would've bought one if i didnt buy a 5th am5 motherboard

steel stream
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I've got other purchases I want to make, and I'll just wait for NVL

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it's not like 270K makes a huge difference in what I do

pure garnet
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everything i've seen about the 270k makes it look nice but something i'd have interest in

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my ocf can't do core tuning and the imc isn't magic binned or anything

steel stream
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I'd love to have one, just not worth it for me atm

cosmic gazelle
pure garnet
cosmic gazelle
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@merry stirrup just dropped an offer on a tomahawk max because the max bios never drops raven ridge support. so, you better be happy now

hoary hatch
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@shell void oi wtf is a terafab

cosmic gazelle
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60

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i really wanted an matx board tho so imma keep looking for one

pure garnet
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b450 mortar max

turbid locust
cosmic gazelle
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i just found a strix b450 with bent front io pins for like 50 bucks hold on

warm gate
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lol rackmounted macbook

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please ignore my cable management

cosmic gazelle
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@pure garnet can you verify rq that this isn’t a big deal

pure garnet
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i don't see why would it

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do you plan on hooking up a pc speaker anyway

turbid locust
cosmic gazelle
pallid marsh
cosmic gazelle
pure garnet
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bro 😭

cosmic gazelle
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i just messaged the dude and asked if he had actually tested it

indigo walrus
pure garnet
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am i right in that it's a b450-f

cosmic gazelle
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looks the same

pallid marsh
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Why buy b450

pure garnet
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no i mean the one you're looking at

pure garnet
pallid marsh
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Oh

cosmic gazelle
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i need one of these if it’s asus

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so the b450-f might not even be an option

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because i dont want a board that's updated too far and doesn't support flashback

cosmic gazelle
pure garnet
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yes but the one you're looking at was a b450-f right

cosmic gazelle
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oh yeah sorry

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@pure garnet do you think this thing is too shit

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it's the only reasonably priced one that has flashback

pure garnet
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i don't know much of anything about am4 tuning but the 2400g probably can't draw enouhg power to overload that crappy vrm

cosmic gazelle
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it can draw almost 200 watts in combined cpu and gpu if you really push it hard

pure garnet
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also i checked the cpu support page

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the b450-f latest bios still supports the 2400g

cosmic gazelle
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even the non-ii version?

pure garnet
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yeah

frank zealot
shell void
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for what purpose

pure garnet
cosmic gazelle
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i mean it is a lower end ryzen 5 but i'm trying to do an oc project so probably not

frank zealot
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it just has a really weak VRM, so it's not gonna push a higher end cpu

cosmic gazelle
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is a b450m bazooka v2 any good

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theres one up for a good price

pure garnet
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the b350-f removed the fx apus

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but the b450-f just never supported them

turbid locust
cosmic gazelle
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"Item Condition: Prior customer stated "The dram light turns on for this motherboard". For Parts or Repair and Sold as is. Accessories include Manual, I/O Shield, CD, SLI Bridge, 4x SATA Cable. Buyer acknowledges and assumes risk with purchase."

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do we think this board is dead or the previous customer was just a dumbass

pure garnet
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thing 2 can cause thing 1

cosmic gazelle
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WAIT?

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is this the move

shell void
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we dumpster diving

low sorrel
shell void
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75usd for a x370 board seems expensive to me

cosmic gazelle
shell void
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i think you can get a new b550 board for a similar price

cosmic gazelle
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see exhibit a

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i am using cpu no b550 no worky

shell void
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explode

cosmic gazelle
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@pure garnet sorry for the pings but can you verify that this means it'll boot regardless of bios version

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i think im just gonna settle for the gigglybyte

pure garnet
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check the b350 to compare

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but probably

frank zealot
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one thing to keep in mind:
Any board that was running a 5000 series chip will not support a ryzen 2000 series or earlier.

Due to limitations in firmware storage space

cosmic gazelle
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not always the case

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32mb boards that isn't the case most of the time

wraith steeple
cosmic gazelle
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I bought the prime x370 pro

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because it's two vrm tiers above the gigabyte and 5 dollars more

low sorrel
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stinky vrms

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well both stinky vrms

cosmic gazelle
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no

low sorrel
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chips where you live

cosmic gazelle
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x370 pro is tier c

low sorrel
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you want my b550

cosmic gazelle
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tier c is not horrible

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b550 is not compatible

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matter of fact the x370 pro is in the same tier as the b450 tomahawk and everyone loves that board

low sorrel
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nuh uh

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you need tier S

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for your zen+ cpu

cosmic gazelle
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youre so right bestie i'm going to go buy a hero as we speak

low sorrel
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i was actually going to give you my b550

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why amd no compatable

cosmic gazelle
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i feel like just putting 32mb bios on every board wouldn't have been that hard

low sorrel
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also fun fact some b550s are compatable with zen 1 and zen +

frank zealot
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AM4 survived longer than AMD probably ever expected it would at launch

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so, things happened

low sorrel
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bios engineers when amd asked them to add support for zen 3 for their 2017 motherboards:

frank zealot
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Zen, Zen+, Zen 2, (4000 series bullshit), Zen 3, Zen 3 X3d, Refreshes, T, XT, and whole piles of other shit

low sorrel
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I wonder how many of the people who worked on the zen 1 support worked on the support for the 5800xt

frank zealot
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there is zero chance AMD expected that platform to be "current" 7 or 8 years fucking later

cosmic gazelle
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@merry stirrup tldr im a dumbass and didn't check the b350 actually had hdmi out so i now have a prime x370 pro coming in the next 2 to 4 days

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it cost me an additional like 20 dollars or something because of the return fees but at least it'll be over with

low sorrel
shell void
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AMD wasnt planning on letting 300 series boards use Ryzen 5000 until youtubers shamed them over it (rightfully)

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it was a headache with their small eeprom so i can see why they wouldnt want to burden board vendors

low sorrel
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this gonna be a bit

pallid marsh
low sorrel
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yes

frank zealot
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I get it, but also, the early 300 boards had been supporting chips for 3(4ish) iterations, which ain't bad at all.

Zen, Zen+, Zen2, Ryzen 4000, and 4 full years.

I wouldn't have faulted AMD for being like "After that, you can get a newer board"

pure garnet
#

that's just 2 real gens tho

frank zealot
#

which is what intel was doing every 2 years

#

so getting 4 was not bad

shell void
#

ryzen was buns for games until 5000

frank zealot
#

Hell, Core i 6000-9000 were all basically skylake and refreshes, and were 2 different platforms

pure garnet
#

so was zen 2

#

you had haswell (zen), haswell (zen+), skylake (zen 2), 4000 series ryzen (zen2 (skylake)), and then zen 3 was something worth buying

primal fractal
#

I’m about to update bios shortly. If I’m a few updates behind, is it still ok to go to the most recent? Instead of downloading them all individually

low sorrel
#

yes

#

unless it explictly tells you otherwise

civic reef
#

Some guy wants a fully new PC to play Cyberpunk at 4K60-100 on at high settings.. $1500 budget

I am torn between giving him a 9070 XT for the performance or a 5070 for the DLSS so he can actually game at 4K60-100 (with DLSS)

low sorrel
#

5070

civic reef
#

That's my choice too, but still.. Feels odd

shell void
#

cyberpunk is the nvidia game

#

5070 is a nobrainer there

civic reef
cosmic gazelle
#

@pure garnet the prime x370 explicitly says the a series was removed in later updates and there’s no mention of zen ever being removed so i’m pretty sure i’m in the clear

low sorrel
#

little slower

shell void
low sorrel
civic reef
low sorrel
#

debatable

civic reef
#

Since the 5600x is around 12400-13400 performance

shell void
#

yeah there's a lot more variance in gaming performance in intel's stack

cosmic gazelle
#

idk if i would say comparable, 7600x pretty handily beats a 12400f in gaming iirc

shell void
#

if youre talking about 12600k/12700k/12900k then theyre comparable to ryzen 7000

#

lower clocked locked variants like the 12400f are slower

cosmic gazelle
#

unlocked alder lake is a liberal lie

#

they never actually existed it’s fake news

shell void
#

marques the iPhold isnt available yet don't lie to me

cosmic gazelle
#

man i’m so bummed i have to wait even longer to do my 2400g oc

shell void
#

higher clocked 12th gen cpus are comparable to ryzen 7000 when you use ddr5

#

if youre using a 12400f with ddr4 then it's a different story

pure garnet
#

asus took the vapor chamber out of the 5080 prime to save $4

pallid marsh
low sorrel
pallid marsh
shell void
#

itll depend on the video that you pick and which games are tested, HUB has also shown the 12th gen to be similar to Ryzen 7000

#

it's definitely closer to Ryzen 7000 than it is 5000

low sorrel
#

I wouldn't say it's really comparable to either tho

pure garnet
#

bro this guy got cooked

cosmic gazelle
#

well i’m not buying it so if someone wants a cheap ass b450-f there it is

pallid marsh
#

A520 supported?

low sorrel
#
civic reef
cosmic gazelle
pallid marsh
cosmic gazelle
#

whole point was to oc the green stick ram i already have around

shell void
#

iirc msi b450 tomahawk max was a well-reviewed b450 board

cosmic gazelle
civic reef
#

Not even Megatransfers
You get 3.2MT/s

#

1.6MHz RAM ❤️

pallid marsh
#

People want over $80 for x370 boards wtf

low sorrel
#

yes

civic reef
#

Tell whoever's selling that X370 to shove it ❤️

topaz veldt
#

this is sick

civic reef
#

Only personal confliction is the NVMe, but the only options cheaper were either less trustable drives, ones with multiple hardware revisions, or just too closely priced that the drive I chose is priced close enough

#

RAM is 1x16, yeah, but the 3D V-Cache should minimise any losses, and he can either go overbudget and get a second stick, or wait to get one later

pallid marsh
#

Rtx 4080s are under $500 on eBay

shell void
pallid marsh
#

Wtf is going on eBay

shell void
#

~$825 minimum from what im seeing (ignoring the obvious scam listings from sellers with blank profiles)

pallid marsh
#

I was wrong all the currently selling cards are from new accounts and I can't see the sold ones

shell void
#

all of these sold listings around $4-600 are from sellers with 0 feedback and blank profiles

#

it's a bunch of people getting scammed

pallid marsh
#

So fucking many legitimately like 3 pages of this shit

shell void
#

yeah it's nutz

#

scammers have always been a problem on eBay but it seems a lot worse nowadays

turbid locust
#

Which is crazy because the buyer protections go crazy now

low sorrel
pallid marsh
#

Can we filter out new/0 sold or bought items accounts. in the eBay settings

trim agate
#

used 4080s are like $900 here

cosmic gazelle
#

mac do you know anything about ddr4 procodt

low sorrel
pure garnet
#

disney+ tinted the star wars movies purple wtf

young void
#

A moment to appreciate how cool the 5090 gaming trio oc stays under full load

shell void
#

banana bread

merry stirrup
#

ain’t nobody to make that for you

pure garnet
#

floppa wanna know something weird about the x670e-e

merry stirrup
#

oh my god the schizophrenic chronicles continue

pure garnet
#

the post code cpu temp readout is for core temp and not package temp

shell void
merry stirrup
shell void
#

you don’t know me jit

merry stirrup
#

it should be ~about 10c off actual all the time

pure garnet
#

yeah i just add +10 everytime i see it

merry stirrup
shell void
#

my father’s chiropractor’s wife made it XD

merry stirrup
#

lol

shell void
#

she makes fire desserts

merry stirrup
#

goated. i bet it’s incredible and you’ll never have anything quite like it again

pure garnet
merry stirrup
shell void
#

nepnep got a 270K+ and hes putting up demon numbers

pure garnet
#

aspm sometimes drops to 4.0 to power save but no lower

#

so we bing chillin

merry stirrup
#

pusses me off knowing an x870e tomahawk had more useful features

shell void
#

he posted a 5.8p 5.1e CBR23 run in another server a couple minutes ago

merry stirrup
#

yeah he’s flexing on mac

#

he’s got a pretty goated xhup

pure garnet
#

the tomahawk is a great board aside from the demon in mine

thick summit
#

nice

merry stirrup
pure garnet
#

i may just cancel the rma on the mlg bc i don’t have a box to ship it in and they’ll throw away the pretty box if i send it in

#

so up2u if you want that still

merry stirrup
#

💀idk what ones less cursed

pure garnet
#

tommy so far

merry stirrup
#

mmay

#

*mkay

young void
#

I need that cache for benchs :/ , tiss my fault for not getting a x3d really

pure garnet
#

nah if you’re just playing 3d mark and not games buy a 14900k

merry stirrup
#

intel bias in 3dmark

#

esp on dual ccd

#

3dmark literally doesn’t know how to use the second ccd

young void
#

I do alittle of everything's bless, game, dev, algos, testings, 3d, particles, rendering yada yada rada rada

merry stirrup
#

usually makes scores worse

pure garnet
#

yeah splaive said free 1k points in port royal

young void
#

Awaiting medusa in hopes they fix that alittle

pure garnet
#

i think we just need a noticeably faster cpu first

#

the 14900k is still latency king

young void
#

Nova myte come back swinging though this is truess, im super split wich way to go next gen. Just waiting colorfulhell

shell void
#

that's why you just buy zen 6 and nova lake

#

the snail method

young void
#

Ya know I just myte, did that with 7900x and 14700k

fringe vigil
#

does yt premium work for every one of my yt accounts

steel stream
fringe vigil
#

are you sure

steel stream
#

idk i don't have YT premium but I can't think of a reason it would work across multiple accounts

spiral quarry
steel stream
#

makes sense

spiral quarry
#

Lol I’m the one managing it.

#

So my grandparents and friend are on it.

nova patrol
#

26 buckarus

#

i would get 9

cosmic gazelle
# merry stirrup interesting

turns out this could actually be ideal for oc because on b350 and x370 you can stay at a PinnaclePi version of agesa which has more robust training data for zen and zen+ apparently (just regurgitating what I read idk)

fervent chasm
#

bro my friend is actually so special

low sorrel
#

@frank cypress when the hell did they add AI to red flag deals

fervent chasm
#

he bought a new monitor, its an oled

#

he noticed the gpu and monitor have HDMI + DP

#

he plugged in both on both the gpu and monitor

steel stream
#

🔥

#

extra bandwidth

hoary hatch
fervent chasm
#

Could that be a reason for stutters btw?

steel stream
steel stream
quiet grove
#

1 account

hoary hatch
#

You're only displaying over 1 input

#

So unless windows/the monitor is trying to constantly switch between inputs, it should be fine

#

Only other thing I could think of is if having both ports connected is causing the one of them to keep reregistering as a connected display in windows

fervent chasm
#

they just showed up as 2 displays

#

like actively, when he was trying to share his screen on discord he noticed he had 2 options

#

even though 1 monitor plugged in

trim agate
fervent chasm
#

BRO

#

This guy

#

Not you im talking about my dumb friend

#

He had his monitor plugged into the motherboard port

#

like this guy is actually slow

fringe vigil
trim agate
trim agate
fringe vigil
#

oh really

hoary hatch
#

Oopsie

#

Does it count as zip bombing if the archive is real data

#

I just accidentally compressed a 45gb folder and shared it with people

fervent chasm
#

then he plugged 2 cables into the same pc and same monitor

#

and then he realized its in the iGPU port

#

after I told him explicitly that GPU is vertically mounted and on the bottom youll see the ports

steel stream
topaz veldt
#

@viscid fjord you know this second 270K is going to be ass lol

young void
#

What are you wanting it to do snails?

topaz veldt
#

better E core performance

#

and it wouldn't hurt if it could run 8800-9000 M/Ts

fringe vigil
#

whys this shit jxr

indigo walrus
fringe vigil
#

high quality hdr screenshot i assume

indigo walrus
fringe vigil
#

please dont download and see the image btw

#

how does hdr sc look for users with non hdr

#

is it normal sdr for them

topaz veldt
#

my wife is going to bankrupt me

young void
#

It be like that sometimes

indigo walrus
topaz veldt
#

we handed this patio place a couple insane checks

#

shes like "oh btw here's the furniture I want order - it takes 3-6 weeks so we should order soon"

#

my credit card is melting

indigo walrus
shell void
#

the Centurion weeps

topaz veldt
#

its hot to the touch

hoary hatch
#

Y'all

trim agate
#

Y’all

hoary hatch
#

I just airdropped to android

#

Technology is incredible

merry stirrup
#

and not like nvl or x3d or like base tiles

#

nah bro bluetooth

hoary hatch
merry stirrup
#

homie you just got updated to support bold texts

pure garnet
#

damn this dude got the crazy bin

merry stirrup
#

"DAYUUUMM"

#

someome get that chip on ln2 for something cool

pure garnet
#

it boots 6800 1:1 but i haven't seen any stresses yet

#

reading the apex thread on ocn bc im bored

merry stirrup
#

that is diabolical

#

someone get sug0 this

pure garnet
merry stirrup
#

maybe a terms gooner could get it further

analog scroll
pure garnet
#

every part of that video is a hard watch

analog scroll
merry stirrup
#

stopped at the first 1

pure garnet
#

recording the monitor and the graphics are even more terrible than every should be

analog scroll
#

I had to put it there cause I couldn't put it in public chat

merry stirrup
#

watching a point and click adventure

analog scroll
pure garnet
analog scroll
analog scroll
#

is this the job you wish to get

#

if so cool

hasty wave
pure garnet
#

no it’s a way off a 9800gtx

analog scroll
pure garnet
#

yeah that didn’t help the case any

merry stirrup
#

holy sata adaptors

pure garnet
#

goodwill warrior

merry stirrup
#

i mean for a retro build its managed fine but big dawg sata is rated for 54w/connector

analog scroll
merry stirrup
#

if its not using the slot for 75w then thats like, concerning lol

pure garnet
#

floppa i should’ve just bought a b850-a over the mlg back then

merry stirrup
#

yes

pure garnet
#

i could’ve had a working pc this whole time fr

merry stirrup
#

we know this for the future we just buy asus

#

dont be swayed by asrock cheap offering next gen we must stay true

analog scroll
#

it was chillin

pure garnet
merry stirrup
#

idk if asrock puts a board capable of 52c monster out for 329 idk bro

pure garnet
#

the ocf is basically broken bios wise 💀

merry stirrup
#

this is true you have to do hacks to get it to work

#

konami code to activate proper cpu clocking mode

pure garnet
#

realistically though i’ll probably just daily xmp on a hero and bench a different system

analog scroll
#

the case:

merry stirrup
#

too new

#

basically a rice

#

idk looks good its old so

pure garnet
#

2 usb ports but every kind of portable flash

analog scroll
#

yees

#

there's actually 2 more USB ports under the electrical tape

#

idk why there's electrical tape there

pure garnet
#

floppa remember when karhu 2.0 was coming out

merry stirrup
#

yeah

#

remember when it didnt 8 separate times after that

#

is bros wife gonna come save him again

#

3/4 tempted to join the server again

pure garnet
merry stirrup
#

LOL

#

killed karhu mb guys

pure garnet
#

oh he said 2-4 weeks like

merry stirrup
#

2-4 weeks ago?

pure garnet
#

on the 4th

merry stirrup
#

☑️

pure garnet
#

so basically

merry stirrup
#

quite insane

arctic bronze
analog scroll
young void
#

35mins into moors law vid and they almost scratched it but if intel came out a bit more competive with AVX512 I know a large group of individuals that'd be jump ship super quick

#

I hear AVX10.2 is cooking who knows

#

Hm, ill check it outss

young void
#

I dont watch him often but was curious

merry stirrup
#

seriously tho

#

even yc makes fun of no intel avx 512

young void
#

Its pretty meh its why I sold yee old 14700k

#

Just couldnt hang w/o being watt limited and not quite running up to par

#

Still good though just not as good

merry stirrup
shell void
#

avx10.2 my beloved

merry stirrup
#

the ps3 emulation is gonna be insane

#

yc in 7s

#

prolly less like 3.5

coarse hound
#

i have run into an issue where it says something happened and your pin isnt setup. click to setup pin again. for referecence this is on a HP laptop that i was trying to install linux in and disabled secure boot but after enabling it the issue wont go away

merry stirrup
#

oh sup ennui

wise bear
#

omg its an onwee

cosmic gazelle
#

do you change cad bus values on xoc ddr4

trim agate
#

Hi everyone

brisk jolt
#

ni hao

analog plover
brisk jolt
#

@trim agate got de code

low sorrel
low sorrel
brisk jolt
#

FUCK nvidia overlay is dead again

#

BRO it came back after i reinstalled the stupid gigabyte control centre to fix the RGB 💀 😭

trim agate
brisk jolt
#

@trim agate LOL

trim agate
#

And I see it’s at fucking NTUC

#

164 ratings people actually buy this from ntuc of all places

livid flame
#

Car sim guys spend more on their setup than they do on their cars

#

Impressive how much they spend and how good it looks on some tbh

low sorrel
#

@pallid marsh war thunder?

low sorrel
#

But what makes that h pattern 230 bucks

brisk jolt
low sorrel
brisk jolt
low sorrel
#

Also what makes it better then those 20 dollar shifters on taobao

#

It probably is better but

brisk jolt
#

its closer to a real car instead of being helluva artificial

low sorrel
brisk jolt
#

yeah so like i really dont know

low sorrel
#

Dirt cheap looks crazy like the moza onr

brisk jolt
#

I want something looking like the turtlebeach

low sorrel
#

In other news this carpet looks so k

#

Sick

dapper junco
#

erm ackstually this is the Nordschleife and the GP circuit aka the 24 hour layout 🤓
jk jk

low sorrel
livid flame
#

That’s rug not a carpet

#

It’s weird tbh shipping from China. Anything I get in a container is expensive, anything air freighted is cheap. Air freight is way more expensive than container shipping so I’m at a loss for the pricing from China

low sorrel
burnt socket
trim agate
civic reef
livid flame
#

War is peace.

livid flame
burnt socket
#

god i need to press 5 buttons to turn on my setup

topaz veldt
#

Haven't run a memtest on my main rig in a while @turbid locust @merry stirrup - she's still got it. 47.5C after 10 hrs of 1.6 VDD 8000 CL32

civic reef
livid flame
leaden dawn
#

All in

#

That watermark knows what's up

civic reef
#

Keep wearing leather jackets and making AI cards

livid flame
#

Tech companies been doing military since before windows was invented tbh

leaden dawn
#

He's just way too happy about it

#

Like I'm not surprised, military money is no joke but the way he's treating it feels like one

livid flame
#

“War is good for us” was what I’m pretty sure he said in that interview

wet bear
# low sorrel In other news this carpet looks so k

Man that ali express screenshot gave me PTSD. It's not as bad as temu but God shopping on ali express is fucking cancer.

And its such a shame bc some things legitimately should just be bought on ali express. I mean for as bad as Amazon has become in many ways its like comparing a 5 star resort to a abestos filled burned down rv

tranquil finch
#

What temps should i have on stock 9800x3d in idle, while gaming and under big load like cinebench? With 360 AIO

wet bear
#

But screw aio tower coolers are better unless you need to ship it or looks

turbid locust
#

Valorant meta so terrible I’ve been playing CS again 💀

trim agate
#

suddenly you can't hold a cross anymore because nobody actually crosses they just teleport around

turbid locust
#

I mean just the state of ranked in that game is just so bad right now lol

#

like trying to rank up is miserable

brisk jolt
#

Ive been valorant free for 2 months idk what you’re on

turbid locust
#

Like I’ve been unironically enjoying CS again. That’s bad.

trim agate
shell void
#

valorant added too many agents

brisk jolt
turbid locust
#

I could only imagine someone trying Valorant for the first time nowadays

trim agate
turbid locust
#

probably similar to my first experience with Siege

turbid locust
#

They’re trying to prioritize gunplay again

trim agate
#

except for like tejo he's ok at times

brisk jolt
#

enough said, we’re nerfing chamber

turbid locust
#

but it’s a slippery slope cause if you buff sentinels too much the game becomes EXTREMELY boring

trim agate
#

or just nerf neon and waylay

turbid locust
shell void
#

episode 1 was my favorite because there were only a few agents that all had powerful abilities, but guns were still powerful enough to be the main focus

#

it felt more balanced and shorter time to kill

trim agate
turbid locust
#

they took yoru out back and shot him it’s all good

trim agate
turbid locust
#

so no more bhop spam

trim agate
#

site entries will still be trash af but at least it's just for that one moment

shell void
#

episode 1 and 2 were so fricking good man i’m glad i got to experience comp in that era

brisk jolt
#

in fact just make everything shootable

turbid locust
hoary hatch
#

That's when I stopped playing

brisk jolt
#

can we just make neon a disabled person atp

shell void
#

the game quite literally just gets a little bit worse every episode

signal parrot
#

god i love character and ability spam slop (i dont, fuck that shit)

steel stream
#

$500 AIOs soontm

livid flame
#

Will be 0.5c and 4db lower than Thermalright for $400 more

#

Assuming they will do a vrm fan on the block judging by that photo?

shell void
#

nah it’s just a piece of foam with a noctua badge

#

and the aio itself is a default asetek design

#

laziest noctua product ever

#

professor owen has a FG2.0 vid out

steel stream
shell void
steel stream
shell void
#

i will definitely be testing it this evening

steel stream
#

let me know your findings

#

I've got an exam and then I'm going to play broomball

shell void
#

i’m going to be disappointed if it doesn’t improve on crosshair and hud artifacting

shell void
steel stream
shell void
#

true you need TC2 pulled up at all times

steel stream
#

it'll be like jarvis except the only knowledge it has is ram OC and niche GPU / CPU facts

shell void
steel stream
shell void
#

if you want to combine VRR with FG then you still have to set a manual rendered FPS limit, and select a static framegen factor

shell void
steel stream
frank zealot
#

This is possibly the most unhinged piece of tech I've seen in a while:

brisk jolt
#

@shell void what was ur stable clock at 875mv?

shell void
#

If you have 100FPS on a 240Hz display then your options are:

  1. Do nothing

  2. Enable 3x Framegen, and output FPS slightly over your Refresh Rate
    (max smoothness and minimum latency, but negates VRR which introduces screen tearing)

  3. Enable 2x Framegen with VRR, and output FPS below your Refresh Rate [ex: 160FPS]
    (minimum latency and artifacts, and no screen tearing, but less smooth)

  4. Set a rendered FPS limit of 73, and enable 3x Framegen to output out your VRR FPS limit of ~224
    (max smoothness without screen tearing, but worst latency and artifacts)

#

this new dynamic framegen update doesn’t change this dilemma in any way

#

it just makes it easier to use option 2

#

option 2 is optimal if you have 240Hz+ because screen tearing is less annoying than on lower refresh rates, and that’s exactly how nvidia was demonstrating dynamic framegen at the trade show

#

using it to stay above 240fps on a 4K 240Hz monitor

steel stream
#

interesting

shell void
#

it’s ~469fps on a 540Hz monitor for example which is sacrificing a ton of frames

#

TLDR framegen, especially dynamic framegen aims to obsolete VRR on higher refresh rate displays

#

VRR’s main usefulness is in <144Hz gaming

brisk jolt
#

fg 60>120 is an incredible experience coming from my friend yesterday pepoJuice

steel stream
steel stream
brisk jolt
pure garnet
#

the only game i’ve used framegen in is forza

#

60 base framerate in an fps is going to drive me nuts

shell void
#

yeah i’d rather not use FG in a comp FPS game

#

if a comp game needs framegen then it sucks

brisk jolt
#

star rail at 120 fps is optimal (turn based game btw)

pure garnet
#

star rail can just run at 120fps native though

shell void
#

if you’re doing 300-600 then i could see the usefulness, but if a comp game can only run at 300fps on current gen hardware then it sucks

pure garnet
#

i mean even cyberpunk or resident evil would annoy me at 60

#

if i’m aiming with a mouse

steel stream
#

have you guys seen the clips of the people who made a game and saying they're optimizing for a 1070 to get 60fps at 1080p

brisk jolt
shell void