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maybe mclaren too
@brisk jolt what do you think about the thing with max and the journalist
Not like they can in the first place
if someone in the room pissed me off SO hard like that I’d also do the same
which if they have starts like they did here all the time every start is gonna be even more magical
Statistically for McLaren it's a outlier to have both drivers start the race right now
Perhaps if he wants to avoid awkward questions about intentionally driving into people he shouldn't intentionally drive into people
actually it's a 50/50
Nein
they have one double dns, one dns, and a double start
statistically it is impossible for aston martin to finish a grand prix without having both drivers DNF first
50% start rate
Sir how is that 50/50
That's 66/33
3 cars start out of 6 chances?
Read it again
you're gerrymandering
ive seen computers running ddr4 2133
Ma'am read my name
you got me there
yeah but those are more fart than what im on now
Did you see the other 3 big ass crashes today @sturdy swift @brisk jolt
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XQPm-tDpC_Q
Scott McLaughlin was evaluated and released after a frightening crash in Practice 2 at the Children’s of Alabama Indy Grand Prix at Barber Motorsports Park.
Watch more content from Barber weekend here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL948kNhk-wMt6-wMJKVrna0Pg7A4j2LUT
Don't forget to subscribe now! https://www.youtube.com/INDYCAR
📆...
https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/cinebench_-_r23_multi_core_with_benchmate/submissions/5997878 I did this in a really cursed way
it was one of jiacheng's old images from like 2023 iirc and I accidently let it connect to the internet once lol
bro
its not a clean install
go get 50K what is you doin
are you not in the wegg server
I did that shit with CEP enabled LOL
my fault twin
you’re good 💀💀
W11
Need to watch Skatterbencher’s ARL videos to learn how to properly OC these fuckers
cause the way I was doing it was mega cursed and I’m not even sure it was safe
Someone already had this same thing about secure boot violation error I just tried everything and couldn't
That 2nd one is crazy
fits the shit computer
fair
its DDR3 i dont care about it that much
its cool but not that cool yknow
i like DDR4 a considerable amount more fo sho
Looks okay to me
i wish i had a 4790K fr
i am poor give me better puter
If you didn't like power efficiency
and put it in my LGA 1150 socket?
140W 💀
Yeah
Potato potato
If this is what a 4690K does, I fear what you'll do with a 5960x, or any Haswell-E chip for that matter
That thing has a base TDP of 140W, and everyone knows given TDP is useless
idk if the tower cooler will do anymore than like 250w
idk the chips arent super power dense maybe ill be surprised
Just ziptie more fans to it
You'll be fine
bro that is including the ac pointing at it
floor unit, its like directly in front of it
Steal someone's unit
take my standing fan and press the 3 button
direct air injection
well of course, said by the person running ddr5 8600
i can run 9133 i just don’t bother to daily
Ngl I think it's a good idea to use a Radeon HD 6450 with a Ryzen 5950X
whatever floats your boat
well yeah there's not much benefit running that fast
@merry stirrup funny OS installed, revisit tmr
Does anybody here have galaxy buds 4 pros? And if so do you have hissing?
Yes!
You folks know any nice alternatives to this keyboard that is slightly smaller but still has most keys
Instead of posting across several channels have you tried, idk, googling it?
I have Googlen it but im trying to look for other sources
@turbid locust
ask ai
just because we exist doesn't mean we're going to be a credible "other source"
It's a headset, not a thesis
ai is pretty good at assembling a summary of product reviews
don’t ask it about ram overclocking
ask me how i know 😂
Yeah but there will atleast be some variability
So your refusal to try and fix something on your own is to pawn the situation off to someone else?
Man, you're the worst kind of person
you're the kind of person that puts nutella in the fucking fridge
you're the kind of person who uses so much black pepper you sneeze out the whole dining area
you're the kind of person to reach over the sneeze guards and physically point at the options you want
Do better.
the person to eat/drink something halfway, put it in the fridge, then when everybody wonders whose it is you try to gaslight them
hey @topaz veldt you stil sellin' that 9800x3d?
If yes, how fast would you like it gone
9850
the fuck is a 9850
9800X3D but 4% faster because it clocks 200MHz higher than a PBO'ed 9800X3D
for like $80 more
It’s 50 more than a 9800
Probably as fast as his ram speed 
multiplied by the price
LOL
taxbook pro needs an upgrade stat
it probably cant even run turbotax in safari anymore it's so old and decrepit
what a piece of garbage
genuinely
@shell void what driver r u on the 5090
i prefer my bananas so green that you have to fight the peel off
595.79
does 0 rpm mode work for you
yummy starch
yeh ive never had a problem with 0rpm mode
oh hey look it's me lol

mine absolutely refuse to enter 0 rpm mode
oh, i should watch
that guy never uses his manners
kids these days amiright?
yk what imma just nuke the OS as a whole
enjoy the curse bro
NOOOOOOOOO
Finally! Last run is done
All sold yo
fuck kyoko cursed me
💪
0 rpm is just most cards idle fan curve
Oh i see, I thought under load it was 0, I was like oofs. My 5090 would scream
its a GPU thing
naw what they're calling "0 rpm mode" is just when your fans don't spin until you pass a certain temperature, like 50-55c usually
Makes sense
pretty much every card released in the last few years has it on by default
Im at 32c and like 60w
Right right
polaris was one of the first gens to have it on by default iirc
i believe my 3080 has it off if you turn on the oc vbios
how my gpu feels after becoming rainbow puke after I just set the rgb to off:
Sold another 16gb of 2015 ddr4 for $50 on Friday
mr money bags over here
Gotta pay for that 270k upgrade somehow
real
I have one more kit I could sell
you can thank that corperate greed when they raised the price to $350
Yeah I think my prices were fair
Not complete scalping, but also not giving them away
I could sell my spare system
3800x, 1080ti, 32gb
I keep getting a $4500 offer for the 5090 build tempting but not really in a rush to sell.
Especially with rebuilding costs
$400 for a system?
i mean some 5090s sell for 4000...so theres that lol
and a 1080ti is not anywhere near that
I'm pretty nostalgic for my old hardware but if I'm ever going to sell it, this is probably the best time
400$ is probs fair give or take, never hurts to list higher and go down as needed
I wont go below 4800 but have it up for 5000. Better priced then any of my competition
But also makes me dread having to deal hunt to make the next build
finally after 4 business days of waiting IT STOPS SPINNING
WHY ARE THERE LIGHTS
FUCK! SHIT!
yes
so right now afterburner doesnt want to apply my UV profile so I saw it shot up to 111w on idle
SUCK IT KYOKO i finally got it working after an hour of pain just for zero rpm mode 😂
Goobers lol ||I mean this kindly when I say it btw as a term for silly||
works
time to put malware back on my pc
Never undervolted my gpu but hear good things. Done plenty of watt limiting and setting core/clocks. One day mayhaps
XD
damn walmart had a 9800x3d/9070xt prebuilt for $1600 today
somebody wants to buy my 2400mhz crucial ballistix ram for 65€ so
damn thats 75 usd
crucial ballstix are back in relevancy god bless america
the prices rose but the roses rosed
previously i sold a 3000mhz kit for 65€ in like january
hmm
maybe i shouldnt sell my junk
how much is ebay fees
btc mining h81 boards will rise?
my final profit after everything (i purposely overcharged shipping) is roughly $70.50
i got $80 cash
facebook marketplace supremacy
i also fucking hate selling on marketplace and it is a waste of my time
final profit after ebay buyer scams and keeps the item: $0
it is but 10 dollars
they can’t lol
thats 12g of thermal paste
no refund until the seller receives the item back and confirms
not if they put in a cs dispute
nah if they do and the seller says you didn’t return it you still don’t get a refund
they can’t just keep the item
shiiit junk like this sells for 83€ now?
yes it does
you realize ram quality is not based on rated speed big dawg
ik but 83€
crucial e die isn’t horrible afaik
this isnt exactly top tier either
i mean 16gb of ddr4 may as well be junk but
i know cause i have them
the world we’re in now
i mean you can get 2 green sticks for under 60 bucks that’ll do at least 3400
so unless you’re shooting for 4k paying that much is silly
can you do 800mhz tho
isn’t the slowest configurable ddr4 speed 2133 lol
i can do 800 on my 4790k i think
i do not know how i achieved this
i mean task manager isn’t exactly the most rock solid reporting software
100% has to be a misreporting dimm
worked on my other pc
it is flat out not possible to run ddr4 at that speed
bios and hwinfo said 800mhz too
motherboard sucks at reporting ram speed then
i mean this motherboard is a real piece of shit
no like ddr4 does not do under 2133 as a specification
its from a msi prebuilt, so it wont accept newer bios updates
one ram slot doesnt work
the cpu fan runs at 3 rpm by default
1600
ram shortage tip
12 years ago
you are correct i’ve just never seen that before
2133 is just the jedec standard
no 1600 is also a jedec spec apparently
there’s half a billion jedec standards yeah
oh right
2133 was just the most common
imagine getting sold a pc on fb marketplace and they put fucking 1600mhz ram in it
i only knew about it because i knew about ddr5 specs worse than 4800
i have ddr3 that runs at 2400mhz
i mean my fx kit runs ddr3-800
sheeesh as fast as my ddr4 then
a bios update later and it reported 2400mhz correctly later
prebuilt so ofc the bios update was done via software
fuck you msi
times get tough
but yeah shouldve said via windows
damn these prices just everyday convince me to sell
if i add up my build + my extra parts from older builds, based on ebay used prices, its around $7k
thats so much extra money
i shouldnt have listened to people around me
id be rich if i never stopped hoarding tech
kinda exaggerating but sorta and sorta not
i had a bunch of parts, which i decided to build in to pcs cause that would be nicer to sell
probably would gain an extra 300€ if i sold today but eh
i dont game enough to even need what i have
mid build i just kinda stopped playing
so i ended up finishing it but its way overkill for how often i play
270k plus, with a 5070 or something would probably be enough
ouchies
how much would that be now? 50 euro?
70
damn
atleast i got my ddr5 before everything happened
went from a 5600 to a 7500f, brother called it pointless, guess whos laughing now
i am kinda positively surprised at Qwen3.5-35B-A3B speed on CPU only, and on not even a very powerfull system
though cl38 ram vs cl30 was also a choice
i mean it's not great, but for what it runs on, it is awesome 😄
(it's Mac mini 2018 with i5-8500 & 64GB DDR4-2666)
ram...
heyo what now
yeah, got it for the mini at early stages of RAMpocalypse. I think it was like 140 euros total for 2x32GB DDR4-3200 SODIMM (but mini only does 2666)
got another 2x16GB kit sitting in storage (waiting for work to decommision their Intel Mac Minis)
I was losing my shit about how it was wild that apple was selling a computer with 64gb of storage at that time but apparently its ram???
yeah, it's RAM. it was a 16GB RAM/256GB SSD model, but 2018 had SODIMMs, so i upgraded it to 64GB RAM
i use a 64GB SSD tho in one of my systems - i have a 15 year old SSD used as Linux boot drive for a HTPC
wait @pure garnet i just had a genius challenge attempt thought
i’m gonna try to get the 2400g to perform better with 1 8gb stick and oc than 2 sticks and everything stock
english please
like comparing the fps in like cs2 or something with a max single stick ram oc and gpu oc vs everything stock but dual channel
(my second stick isn’t coming for 2 days)
what
I shower every other day or so
I shower 1-2x a day
Sometimes if sweaty thats valid or working out, or before/after a shift
1x a day for me
As long as one is clean 
@turbid locust @pure garnet @shell void
calm and controlled 
clip is nice but why so many overlays 😭
i hit alt r on accident
you got a link for that top one?
Love you Wormm
MO27U2 is still available for $599 at Newegg
And 4k thats hypeee
damn thats nuts
Its nothing to write home but is real solid if needing an oled and not quite at the 4k tier
27" 240 hz qd-oled for $431 is nice
I approve of these prices
where can i check cpu stability and that it works normally
OCCT
cinebench if you want to see peak performance and OCCT for long sustained performance
cinebench isn't really a good stability benchmark
im checking occt
i thought he ment peak performance
and cinebench give you graphs to compare
i just wanna check if its underclocking or underperforming
oh then use cinebench and geekbench
you can compare that score with scores of other tests with the same cpus
im doing the occt cpu test
12700k what
?
i7, i9, i5?
theres only i7
ok
71 its not thermalthrottling
show me your test options
before you run it you get options to select and what now
not*
still same
yea thats what i sent
do you have any power limits set in the bios
id have to check that but i didnt do anything manually
never tried to underclock or anything
how high are your temps reaching
70-71
Myte be a good time to update ones bios
it should be hitting 5 ghz at those
do this and also check for any power limits on the cpu in bios
i cant do bios update i dont have a usb 🥀 ill check bios tho for anything weird
and install chipset drivers too if you havent installed them
okay
Can probs also just put the bios file on your boot drive as well but be sure you can find it in the directories, havent tried but 99% sure if doing it via bios on screen q flash
just reset bios to defaults tbh and go from there
yea ill try that first
Clear cmos couldnt hurt either, or using the in bios reset function if applicable
yea ill do this and just enable xmp or should i not touch bios at all
Xmp on is fine
xmp and resize bar are a must on any pc
i have a flashb1 thats not reset tho right
XMP is fine
ok imma take out cmos and just turn on xmp
If not a clear cmos button taking the battery out for 10-15 seconds clears cmos, within bios a reset to defaults option myte be available as well
dang its behind the gpu
there should be a reset to defaults in your bios
As brother akn mentions ❤️
Power limited motherboard maybe
Pro-A?
yea
This guy?if so ill drop some "just in case" links
That board should be able to deliver enough power, so probably not that 
yep
If clear cmos doesnt adjust or you get bored down the road, ill drop the bios location and ill snag a tut
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z690-A/support
In this video, I’ll show you how to update the BIOS on the MSI PRO Z690-A (DDR4) motherboard, a popular and reliable choice for Intel 12th, 13th, and 14th Gen processors.
We’ll go through both the USB M-Flash and MSI Center methods so you can safely update to the latest BIOS version and keep your system running smoothly.
Updating your BIOS...
If you do this just let it run till you get spit into windows
yea still bugged
how do i check if rebar is on and can that cause it?
i treid ghe device manager and theres no large memory thing
the e cores are clocked higher than the p cores 😭
How much power does the CPU use during the test?
Can't garuntee but bios update myte do it, is odd though
135watt
Try running single core or core cycler with a few cores, see if that makes em boost higher
Could just be Intels default power limit holding it back
what if i disable e cores
Id update bios that'll configure watts etc first
this good?
And fix any old bugs depending
i will when i get a usb stick
That works
What app is that or is that bios?
occt
Oh ok
yea still same
Just note the demo i sent also includes a non USB method if you decide
besides e cores they boost higher
wait ill check it out
Might be time to update bios then yeh
No rush but should fix any limit, watt, volt, funkyness
I ran a 12600k, and a 14700k never had issues juicing out

If multicore enhancement is on intel goes full balls
its a 2021 bios btw
Pretty much a launch bios then
Thats why im figuring, latest bios rebars auto enabled or should be as well but that'd be in advanced pcie i think been awhile
isnt mce just a mild overclock anyways
Mce does a few things but maxes more toward the tdp yiss unless set otherwise on pl1/pl2 etc
Helps boost to ram frequency as well, kinda like AMD performance core boost/ the 5g setting it all ties together
More juice to feed the cores 
on z97 multicore enhancement just made the 4790k all core boost to its single core boost
but set voltage literally .15v too high
To keep things flowing hard to explain what it all does
for reference i run 4.6ghz at 1.28v which is probably higher than it needs to be, the z97 ud5h defaults to 4.4ghz at 1.31v
Remember when the 8700k launched, reviews were all over the place because some boards ran MCE while others didnt
should i emmidietly go to the newest or should i do 2023 or sum and then 2026 cuz i know atleast on am4 its funky
Newest non beta is fine
does mce do anything on locked processors? i've wondered that before but never tried it
ok will do
From 8/18 
Makes 2 of us, got no idea
Dont think theyd get that option but not 100%
Maybe power limits if you can use it
i think it does and doesnt work
it's really funny that my z97 is so overbuilt on the vrm that it's just like "give it as much voltage as humanly possible f it" on a cpu generation that used TIM
mostly one of these things where it depends on how the manufacturer implemented it
i had some msi mobo that had a different OC option where I could overclock locked chips
had a 3770 at like 4.8ghz or something
can you undervolt a locked intel cpu? that would be another interesting thing to find out
Good ol' eclk on locked CPUs
MSI did that up till the 12th gen iirc
12400's running at 5ghz
Haven't played with a locked chip tbh, I know ill wanna dabble. so cant say
i could totally find all these things out if i wanted to ruin my profile on the haswell system
but that sounds like a pain in the ass so it'll remain a mystery
I degraded my last haswell CPU hard
i get to start my 2400g oc tomorrow
During its last days it could only run 4ghz stable
No bios profiles? To be saved*
no there are it's just a pain when its tucked into a cabinet and i would need to take the cooler off and blegh
Valid
it's a pa120 and that thing is the bane of my existence when mounting it
but anyways i'm gonna be using a 1dpc b350m board with one stick to start off with
so i will either hit a memory ic wall or the imc wall
and i assume the memory ics i'm using arent bad enough so i'm only limited by the imc
hoping to find a stable 3466 profile
or whatever that number would be
i did the live update thing for chipset stuff first as he recommended and im on a black screen 🥀
Hrmm wait a few minutes myte be updating
i will also be using a bios that doesn't support zen 2 to ideally optimize microcode and stuff
because this board appears to have never been touched
Not sure what step your at what time are you at in the vid? Ill check it out
Could wait another few mins
i replugged hdmi 😭
Sometimes just needs to refresh 
PCs are weird sometimes
Once bios update starts literally just hang out dont touch it
weird part is monitor was on but nothing came up
yep just did that
It'll possible go black a few times
Wait till completely back to windows itll spit you there at the login pin screen*
Can take 5-10 minutes. It'll need to re memory train
3% done
Myte be longer if really old, getting a sammy/drink is recommended
lga 1700 ddr4
oh idk then
60% done
Sometimes, depends on the board/bios/cpu
My 7900x was considerably slower then my 9900x and 9950x boot times
my 3060 tells me that he want this AIO too 🤓
By a good minute on the exact same mobo and bios
yeah i think my 9800x3d hasn't taken longer than about a minute to either train or fail to train lmao
its done
At windows?
did this shit wipe my nvidia drivers iy dosent recognkse gpu anymore 😭
ok no it took time
black screened and gpu appeared magicly in task manager
should i check occt
Could
Could do both and compare if any change
Never hurts to try stuff and see whats effected
Bios update can reset some stuff. Sometimes windows sees a bios update as you changing out hardware, and decides to act like its a different pc. Can also mess with other stuff like RGB and fans in general
Can also effect pcie, everything really
Enable xmp and ggs fam
its at 3.5 and it says 100% util but temps are at 40
Power usage?
Only using a few cores probs
oh wait power usage 61 watts
Running corecycler?
Check it under diffrent uses now that it boosts proper
Like cinebench etc with msi burner to monitor temps
Or hwinfo64 sensors
no
OCCT has built in hwinfo sensors (or at least same setup), which is nice
Or set to fixed and your value
Of threads*
-2 is good practice for the OS
Idk about occt but general core/thread use
ok i did 18 threads and watts still at 60
How many cores ya got? UwU
So 24 threads uwu
its 20 threads no?
E cores dont have HT
20 you right
Either way sounds solid
Id test 3dmark or cinebench now for general range of performance now that its up to spec
Forsures
do i go bios?
ill check cinebench first before bios
Sures
cpu package powerr 80 watts
That is pretty low
do i go in bios
MCE on a 12700k should be fine I guess
mce?
Yes and see if mce is on and xmp
ok wait
Multicore enhancement though typically auto enabled
Could be that its running conservative intel defaults after all the 13\14th gen drama
Maybe, also show a pic of your pl1 and pl2 in cpu advanced tab
Could be xmp not enabled so its not boosting higher wich is also possibles
But shall see
xmp was not on before and where do i find mce
Tweaker \ OC tab most likely
Show pic
Use advanced bios mode if you can
Check the CPU Cooler tuning dropdown menu
Select performance
Try MSI Performance
And voila ❤️
Should turn it into a more normal 12700k
It'll be good yiss then just use as normal get some cinebench and 3dmarks scores/temps
nothing else?
tiny aircooler on it too
Atll do
Might have to adjust some casefans and whatnot later on in the bios if you want it to run more quiet
Usually how it goes 
Most people have no idea which simple setting it is though, quite a few of em in there
Hell, most people dont even know what XMP is and if its turned on
ingames it didnt run hot but maybe cuz it didnt boost at all 😭😭
Still should avg 60-70c in gaming etc
Might see better performance now 
If it can run 130w at 70c you should be fine
i got so see the good ending and im going to sleep now, goodnight yall
its still on 82 watts
Weird what cooler?
Got a screenshot of the frequency when running the test?
thermaltake something its at 53c rn
Hrmm
3.5 on all p cores
What app?
cinebench r23
Should boost toward 5
yep its at 3.5 doee
Check power plan im windows maybe?
its on balancee
theres no ultimate only power saving and balanced
what else do i turn off
Gotcha
Sounds like its not boosting tbh, 3.5ghz is just baseclock levels
It still exists, it's just hidden in Control Panel.
Just thinking
maybe bios thing?
Almost as if the turbo isnt enabled
CPU: i7-12700k Motherboard: Asus z690-a RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32GB 3600MHz PSU: Corsair rm850 GPU: Asus TUF 7900 XTX CPU Cooler: H150i ELITE CAPELLIX OS: Win 11 (fresh install yesterday), Graphics driver updated to 23.7.1 Hello, my CPU clocks don't boost at all, they stay at the base speed when ...
To throttle stop and away
😭
bios apparently has turbo boost opttion do i check if thats on
Could check that I guess
Supposed to be enabled by default
But you never know, bios can do weird things
Who knows, maybe you have the same issue as the guy in that thread had
What is oc explore mode and show the options if you go back in, within that tab, but also run throttlestop as in that thread and show if the disable turbo box is checked
Maybe its enabled in bios but that box is checked in throttlestop
First tab in bios
Maybe just search for it in the bios
oh bios wait
See if Ctrl+F works in that version of MSIs bios
ithought in throttlestop mb
All good, just that box was curious
oc explore mode is set to extreme
Whats the other options?
normal
Does Ctrl+F bring up the search box?
yep thats how i found it
If it does, just search for Turbo
Myte also need to accept the bios advanced tab warning
This is very odd, can try*
Also click advanced and goto the cpu tab for me
Accept the oc warning*
there mobo and oc settinga no cpu settinga
Back on the oc tab select advanced cpu configuration, and show that screen
😔
Can go back to the main tab and try unlimited but I dont think its going to boost appropriately, (it may though)
there is, i’m just lazy
what did you choose?
In the cpu cooling option*, could also try oc explore mode normal but long shots
what’s happening here
Wonder if MSI is dumb and this just locks the cores to 3.6ghz
12700k not boosrinf
is he trying to oc? i though he had a b series board lol
okay more info
z690
We updated his bios flops wich fixed his base clocks right on his 12700k
They where low
Butt he wont boost higher then 3.5/90w
not boosting in what scenario, all core? it could just be hitting power limit
One of the Wegg W11 images
Occt 20 thread 60%util /cinebench
pick something lighter
run a game see if normal boosts are observed then
and what’s Power during allat?
12700k wouldnt boost higher than 2.8ghz. Updated bios and now its running baseclocks at 3.5ghz-ish, at like 80w even with 253w limits etc. Weird stuff
if z690 id reset to default and just unlock the power limits
clearly something is misconfigured
Thats what we just checked (fresh updated bios)
still at 3.5 all p cores
Here
66 watts
And here
do i try this
idk find the cpu perf limit reason in hwinfo and see what it’s saying
should let us know how the board is behaving
where is that exactly
cause it’ll say like Vr Limit or turbo limit or etc
App to install on windows*
hwinfo
sensors only
find cpu performance limiters or whatever
no i have hwinfo but where in hwinfo
i’m not at my desktop but it’s not hard to find just click around the cou section
gt limit yes
GT limit is igpu and can be ignored
others no
what about the rest?
all no?
hold on let me get on my desktop and see if that’s the right one, i don’t think it is
should be a slightly more detailed one
Anyone know if when i change motherboards but keep the same ssd(going from am4–>am5) i have to change anything? like will my windows still be there etc
yes it will be but you should just reinstall when swapping platforms
so just a fresh install?
yes
and how come you should? does it affect anything if i don’t
Oem keys will require a new key with a diffrent mobo, the retail version gives 12 uses on diffrent boards I think
if not you leave extra drivers/software you’re not using specific to the board/ and just old crap that you don’t need
ah right, thanks mate
Backup important saves etc and fresh install is best
alright thanks
going from a 5700x3d to a 9850x3d cant wait
Thats gonna be wicked
yeah so my IA limit reasons have an entire like field of things it could be @nova patrol
yep i’d hope so for the price😂😂
is there a drop down for IA?
yea im blind
IA is intel architecture and it means the cores
all of them are no tho
are you doing something atm?
okay well change that
Fire up cinebench or something
just do something
also another quick question the motherboard i’m getting is max 8200mhz on the ram, the ram i’m getting is 8000mhz, would that cause any instability?
yes
should i put it down a bit?
but not because of the board and because ryzen in general does not like 8000 MT/s ram
I'd just run 6000 or so in 1:1
i found it on a good deal, it’s cheaper than any 6000mhz i could find
you should set it to 6000 C30 specifically with FCLK set to 2000 and the UCLK div mode set to MCLK = uCLK
thanks
cinebench is on nothing so far
that is fine, manually change the settings
lets see the cpu side of hwinfo
during cb
whole thing, power limit and temp and whatnot too
yea i had to clock my current ddr4 ram down from 3600 to 3200 for my 5700x3d it was a little unstable
yeah ryzen doesnt ram oc too good
i was getting tons of errors in ooct stress test with it at 3600
and this is after h updated his bios with no other changes?
Right!!
interesting, on an MSI board?
ye
We changed normal cooler tuning in bios to unlimited after trying performance (just adjust pl limits from 253 on performance to 4000+ on unlimited) and xmp
does your board have flashback? we can try the opposite of what we just did lol
See the shenanigans flops
it had a flash button on the back
interesting
i dont have a usb tho 🥀
For real, myte be degraded but that be balls
no boost 12700k 🥀
idk degraded usually means it just will crash at stock setrtings
this just doesnt boost which makes me think something is wrong rather
try uhhh just clocking it to max pcore boost in the bios lol
so 4.7 is the max pcore boost
should i try this
ok
come back and show us hwinfo voltages and clocks
Is very possible, derpier things have happened
im also thinking it could be a windows thing if nothing in the bios works, maybe he has some program or power plan that sucks?
We did check power saving options not sure if we went over power plans, can check as well with fresh floppa eyes
Cause im stumped
Balanced should be fine in most cases
if its balanced and not changed otherwise yeah it should be fine
you can stop boosting instantly if this isnt set to 100% lol
p-core ratio do i set that theres no max p core
i checked thats its on 100
We also checked ltt forum checked throttle stop, disable boost wasn't checked
yes
do i change this first one to 4700?
pcore ratio to 47
ok
yes type 47 into the box
Before bios update and we started checking stuff his clocks where like this flops. For context why it peaked my curiosity
ok
change nothing else
Here's to hoping
raitio limit =/= set ratio btw my bad i coulda explained that
ratio limit is like a fused frequency limit that your chip uses for the singlecore boosts
how it says "up to 5ghz" on the box, those 2 cores set to 50 are the best in your cpu, so they get the 50 limit for 5GHz
the rest of the cores there will not ever hit 5ghz by themselves because of the fused frequency limit
Strange how it went from 130w at 2.8ghz on the 2021 bios, to 60-80w at 3-ish Ghz after the bios update. From bad to a different type of bad
If it boost appropriately the extra wattage should come into play
Manual setting to boost to 4700 should by all means fix it but just a weird thing to be set by default by msi on not 1 but a super old and new bios
ok this is hella weird
yeah, idk, i dont have any exp on msi past 0x129 which is why i asked if he has flashback
135 watt now but still 3m.5 and temps rose
because i dont think anyone should be on past 0x129 on lga 1700
ffa
clocks?
Pics
yes 3.5 i cant type on phone
oh my bad
Somethings up, just idk lol
cinebench running
yeah idk something indeed up
without physically being there, issues like this suck
do they have hwinfo installed
yes
ye
to check the current/loadline/yada
We are deep kyoko
yeah idk this is like the point where the board is ignoring manually set ratios lol
Right its just refusing. And I know intel loves watts and eats freq so it goes against what I know
i don’t see a current limit posted unless i missed it
Just stops at 3.5ghz
on MSI unlimited
for power profile*, so there shouldn’t be any way it’s hitting a limit
weird how its using 135 watts at the same clocks
We did our diligence
idk id be using hardware info, maybe see if your vrm is throttling somehow
Maybes, something its a weird one
the numbers line up but the board just isn’t sending enough current
1.2v @ ~100a = ~130w
what can cause that
we don’t know is basically the tldr lol we tryna figure this out with you
throttling is my leading theory, or cep
we’d think manually set limits or something but everything is on auto and it’s ignoring even manually set clocks
try disabling cep actually
CEP affecting a chip this bad on stock? idk
Hrmm 
could be the wordt 12700K in the world and want a million amps dor stock but
If you scroll down in OCCTs monitoring you can find your motherboard readings, should be the same as hwinfo
i remember cep halving my 12900ks perf on intel defaults if i set it up wrong
interesting okay
@nova patrol find the advanced cpu section and find CEP
can probably just search it, disable it on everything
mobo seems fine
ok wait
well it's not boosting
Right right
i'd still shut cep off first and see what happens
msi might have the loadlines configured stupid so it's in mad baby mode
Maybes
Sometimes I forget that boards can just pull 100A and act like it's nothing
yeah i’m not sure i didn’t use past 0x129 for these reasons
my itx can do this times 4
Oh yeah I am pulling 150 of André's finest Amperés and I am not even sweating
Even more dubious
450w 13900Ks
didnt change anything 😔
Floppa shitposting from the shower
XD
yeah bro has casper's haunted cpu
can it be windows issue
what power plan are you on
Haven't checked that other then the balanced*
balanced
try setting it to performance or ult performance for giggles
and see if the clocks change at all
i dont see those options
They said it doesnt have that option earlier*? But myte be wrong options menu
click this
am indeed i’m literally dripping
Ulti performance
im blind
Little low
if nothing work id try flashing back to 0x129 or below at some point
ITS BOOSTING
Give it a kw
4.7
Ggs
😭😭😭😭

man i even said power plan
no way it was that all along
okay reset your bios now
Now set unlimited back to performance if you get a chance lol
How many megawatts did reactor 4 put out for a tiny amount of time before exploding? Make that your target power use
enable xmp and msi extreme profile
In bios on the cooler tuning*
Windows being windows
yeah but the green name got it
cpu burning 🥹🥹🥹
then be done
Yeah we need to re enable limits now lol on the cooler tuning profile
msi maximum profile is on and xmp is on too
so are manual clocks
so do i set that to the first one aka default
Performance* is fine at 253 limit pl1
just reset to bios and enable XMP with the extreme mode
These chips are meant to hit 90c under loads
then ur good
Can I just reset bios and just enable all the stuff i need
yeah
yes that’s what i’m telling you to do lol
kaboom
especially on small cooler
we did a lot of random stuff may as well undo it all
yep
Funny how its a setting that works fine for most people, but is somehow broken for others
i spent a day fighting with audio drivers just to end up needing a different usb port
it was literallt one click away this whole time 😭
one last test
time to diagnose: 1 shower
i can finallt run the finals at 200 fps 🥹
why is my fan at full speed tho even after restart
Also flopps and kyoko technicallyyyyy lol
But kyoko walked him through and I needed flops for sanity
lol
Resetting bios also resets fancurves
Fresh eyes team work for the dream work
i help in spirit yes
I was stumped, I saw the functions it was breaking me
kyoko my minion fr i was telling her to say that on god
we buying asus floppa
likely
