#tech-chat-2

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dense granite
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We are mutually in different ones than the other guy was talking about too.

sturdy swift
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maybe mclaren too

low sorrel
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@brisk jolt what do you think about the thing with max and the journalist

low sorrel
brisk jolt
sturdy swift
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which if they have starts like they did here all the time every start is gonna be even more magical

low sorrel
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Statistically for McLaren it's a outlier to have both drivers start the race right now

low sorrel
sturdy swift
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actually it's a 50/50

low sorrel
sturdy swift
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they have one double dns, one dns, and a double start

brisk jolt
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statistically it is impossible for aston martin to finish a grand prix without having both drivers DNF first

sturdy swift
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50% start rate

low sorrel
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That's 66/33

sturdy swift
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3 cars start out of 6 chances?

sturdy swift
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you're gerrymandering

burnt socket
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ive seen computers running ddr4 2133

low sorrel
sturdy swift
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you got me there

merry stirrup
low sorrel
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Did you see the other 3 big ass crashes today @sturdy swift @brisk jolt

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XQPm-tDpC_Q

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/s/uxTaT6205N

https://dubz.co/v/3bd28e

Scott McLaughlin was evaluated and released after a frightening crash in Practice 2 at the Children’s of Alabama Indy Grand Prix at Barber Motorsports Park.

Watch more content from Barber weekend here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL948kNhk-wMt6-wMJKVrna0Pg7A4j2LUT

Don't forget to subscribe now! https://www.youtube.com/INDYCAR

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merry stirrup
merry stirrup
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is this a fart os

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why is windows update there

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looks great tho 49.2K LTT record

turbid locust
merry stirrup
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bro

turbid locust
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its not a clean install

merry stirrup
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go get 50K what is you doin

turbid locust
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do you have an image to send me

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cause like I didnt even OC it right either

merry stirrup
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are you not in the wegg server

turbid locust
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I did that shit with CEP enabled LOL

turbid locust
merry stirrup
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you’re good 💀💀

turbid locust
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u think>

merry stirrup
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W11

turbid locust
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Need to watch Skatterbencher’s ARL videos to learn how to properly OC these fuckers

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cause the way I was doing it was mega cursed and I’m not even sure it was safe

lunar gust
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Someone already had this same thing about secure boot violation error I just tried everything and couldn't

merry stirrup
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fits the shit computer

brave panther
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fair

merry stirrup
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its DDR3 i dont care about it that much

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its cool but not that cool yknow

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i like DDR4 a considerable amount more fo sho

brisk jolt
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I should grab a 4790K and forsake the 9950x3d

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haswell is all you need

merry stirrup
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i wish i had a 4790K fr

civic reef
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Get a 5960x

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Basically 8 core Haswell

merry stirrup
civic reef
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If you didn't like power efficiency

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
civic reef
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Yeah
Potato potato

civic reef
# merry stirrup 140W 💀

If this is what a 4690K does, I fear what you'll do with a 5960x, or any Haswell-E chip for that matter

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That thing has a base TDP of 140W, and everyone knows given TDP is useless

merry stirrup
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idk if the tower cooler will do anymore than like 250w

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idk the chips arent super power dense maybe ill be surprised

civic reef
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You'll be fine

merry stirrup
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bro that is including the ac pointing at it

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floor unit, its like directly in front of it

civic reef
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Steal someone's unit

brisk jolt
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direct air injection

burnt socket
merry stirrup
crude ruin
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Ngl I think it's a good idea to use a Radeon HD 6450 with a Ryzen 5950X

turbid locust
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whatever floats your boat

burnt socket
turbid locust
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@merry stirrup funny OS installed, revisit tmr

blazing matrix
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Does anybody here have galaxy buds 4 pros? And if so do you have hissing?

livid flame
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We talking about useless ram overclocks again?

wise bear
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The fuck is that face

quaint gazelle
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You folks know any nice alternatives to this keyboard that is slightly smaller but still has most keys

wise bear
blazing matrix
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I have Googlen it but im trying to look for other sources

topaz veldt
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@turbid locust

wise bear
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It's a headset, not a thesis

cosmic gazelle
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ai is pretty good at assembling a summary of product reviews

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don’t ask it about ram overclocking

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ask me how i know 😂

blazing matrix
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Yeah but there will atleast be some variability

wise bear
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So your refusal to try and fix something on your own is to pawn the situation off to someone else?

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Man, you're the worst kind of person

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you're the kind of person that puts nutella in the fucking fridge

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you're the kind of person who uses so much black pepper you sneeze out the whole dining area

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you're the kind of person to reach over the sneeze guards and physically point at the options you want

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Do better.

brisk jolt
wise bear
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hey @topaz veldt you stil sellin' that 9800x3d?

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If yes, how fast would you like it gone

wise bear
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the fuck is a 9850

shell void
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9800X3D but 4% faster because it clocks 200MHz higher than a PBO'ed 9800X3D

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for like $80 more

livid flame
livid flame
vestal timber
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multiplied by the price

green marsh
shell void
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RGHD made a vid about the M1 @pure garnet

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this officially marks the M1 as obsolete

steel stream
shell void
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it probably cant even run turbotax in safari anymore it's so old and decrepit

steel stream
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what a piece of garbage

shell void
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genuinely

brisk jolt
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@shell void what driver r u on the 5090

shell void
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i prefer my bananas so green that you have to fight the peel off

brisk jolt
shell void
steel stream
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oh hey look it's me lol

shell void
brisk jolt
steel stream
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have you tried asking nicely

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just a thought

edgy laurel
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oh, i should watch

shell void
steel stream
brisk jolt
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yk what imma just nuke the OS as a whole

pure garnet
brisk jolt
wraith steeple
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Finally! Last run is doneelmo_fire

topaz veldt
brisk jolt
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fuck kyoko cursed me

pure garnet
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you bought an msi product

young void
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Never tried 0 rpm mode sounds sketchy

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But if brother michael sais its solid bless

topaz veldt
pure garnet
young void
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Oh i see, I thought under load it was 0, I was like oofs. My 5090 would scream

brisk jolt
shell void
young void
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Makes sense

shell void
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pretty much every card released in the last few years has it on by default

brisk jolt
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Im at 32c and like 60w

young void
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Right right

cosmic gazelle
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i believe my 3080 has it off if you turn on the oc vbios

hoary hatch
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Ayo

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Selling 16gb of ddr4 for $80 today

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Feels good man

brisk jolt
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how my gpu feels after becoming rainbow puke after I just set the rgb to off:

hoary hatch
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Sold another 16gb of 2015 ddr4 for $50 on Friday

steel stream
hoary hatch
steel stream
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real

hoary hatch
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I have one more kit I could sell

meager saffron
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you can thank that corperate greed when they raised the price to $350

hoary hatch
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Yeah I think my prices were fair

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Not complete scalping, but also not giving them away

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I could sell my spare system

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3800x, 1080ti, 32gb

young void
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I keep getting a $4500 offer for the 5090 build tempting but not really in a rush to sell.

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Especially with rebuilding costs

hoary hatch
meager saffron
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i mean some 5090s sell for 4000...so theres that lol

pure garnet
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and a 1080ti is not anywhere near that

hoary hatch
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I'm pretty nostalgic for my old hardware but if I'm ever going to sell it, this is probably the best time

young void
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400$ is probs fair give or take, never hurts to list higher and go down as needed

young void
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But also makes me dread having to deal hunt to make the next build

brisk jolt
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finally after 4 business days of waiting IT STOPS SPINNING

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WHY ARE THERE LIGHTS

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FUCK! SHIT!

young void
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Lol, lights on the gpu or?

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Backreads to see what sets up to

brisk jolt
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so right now afterburner doesnt want to apply my UV profile so I saw it shot up to 111w on idle

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SUCK IT KYOKO i finally got it working after an hour of pain just for zero rpm mode 😂

young void
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Goobers lol ||I mean this kindly when I say it btw as a term for silly||

pure garnet
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time to put malware back on my pc

young void
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Never undervolted my gpu but hear good things. Done plenty of watt limiting and setting core/clocks. One day mayhaps

young void
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XD

pure garnet
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damn walmart had a 9800x3d/9070xt prebuilt for $1600 today

cosmic gazelle
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just had to one up you rq

atomic garnet
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absolute dread i forgot to bid on an auction

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ALWAYS set an alarm

atomic garnet
# cosmic gazelle

somebody wants to buy my 2400mhz crucial ballistix ram for 65€ so

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damn thats 75 usd

vestal granite
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crucial ballstix are back in relevancy god bless america

atomic garnet
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the prices rose but the roses rosed

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previously i sold a 3000mhz kit for 65€ in like january

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hmm

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maybe i shouldnt sell my junk

hoary hatch
atomic garnet
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btc mining h81 boards will rise?

cosmic gazelle
hoary hatch
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i got $80 cash

cosmic gazelle
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shhhh

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mine was more

atomic garnet
cosmic gazelle
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i also fucking hate selling on marketplace and it is a waste of my time

pure garnet
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final profit after ebay buyer scams and keeps the item: $0

atomic garnet
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it is but 10 dollars

cosmic gazelle
atomic garnet
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thats 12g of thermal paste

cosmic gazelle
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no refund until the seller receives the item back and confirms

pure garnet
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not if they put in a cs dispute

cosmic gazelle
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nah if they do and the seller says you didn’t return it you still don’t get a refund

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they can’t just keep the item

atomic garnet
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shiiit junk like this sells for 83€ now?

hoary hatch
cosmic gazelle
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you realize ram quality is not based on rated speed big dawg

atomic garnet
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ik but 83€

cosmic gazelle
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crucial e die isn’t horrible afaik

atomic garnet
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this isnt exactly top tier either

pure garnet
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i mean 16gb of ddr4 may as well be junk but

atomic garnet
pure garnet
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the world we’re in now

cosmic gazelle
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i mean you can get 2 green sticks for under 60 bucks that’ll do at least 3400

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so unless you’re shooting for 4k paying that much is silly

atomic garnet
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can you do 800mhz tho

cosmic gazelle
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isn’t the slowest configurable ddr4 speed 2133 lol

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i can do 800 on my 4790k i think

atomic garnet
cosmic gazelle
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i mean task manager isn’t exactly the most rock solid reporting software

devout ridge
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100% has to be a misreporting dimm

atomic garnet
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worked on my other pc

devout ridge
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it is flat out not possible to run ddr4 at that speed

atomic garnet
devout ridge
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motherboard sucks at reporting ram speed then

atomic garnet
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i mean this motherboard is a real piece of shit

cosmic gazelle
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no like ddr4 does not do under 2133 as a specification

atomic garnet
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its from a msi prebuilt, so it wont accept newer bios updates
one ram slot doesnt work
the cpu fan runs at 3 rpm by default

atomic garnet
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ram shortage tip

cosmic gazelle
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when was that a thing

pure garnet
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12 years ago

cosmic gazelle
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you are correct i’ve just never seen that before

atomic garnet
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2133 is just the jedec standard

cosmic gazelle
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no 1600 is also a jedec spec apparently

pure garnet
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there’s half a billion jedec standards yeah

atomic garnet
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oh right

pure garnet
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2133 was just the most common

atomic garnet
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imagine getting sold a pc on fb marketplace and they put fucking 1600mhz ram in it

pure garnet
atomic garnet
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i have ddr3 that runs at 2400mhz

pure garnet
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i mean my fx kit runs ddr3-800

atomic garnet
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sheeesh as fast as my ddr4 then

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a bios update later and it reported 2400mhz correctly later

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prebuilt so ofc the bios update was done via software

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fuck you msi

pure garnet
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every bios update is software

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unless you’re writing with a programmer or whatever

atomic garnet
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but yeah shouldve said via windows

fervent chasm
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damn these prices just everyday convince me to sell

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if i add up my build + my extra parts from older builds, based on ebay used prices, its around $7k

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thats so much extra money

atomic garnet
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i shouldnt have listened to people around me

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id be rich if i never stopped hoarding tech

fervent chasm
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did you sell before the prices

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oof

atomic garnet
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kinda exaggerating but sorta and sorta not

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i had a bunch of parts, which i decided to build in to pcs cause that would be nicer to sell

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probably would gain an extra 300€ if i sold today but eh

fervent chasm
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i dont game enough to even need what i have
mid build i just kinda stopped playing

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so i ended up finishing it but its way overkill for how often i play

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270k plus, with a 5070 or something would probably be enough

atomic garnet
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ouchies

fervent chasm
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how much would that be now? 50 euro?

atomic garnet
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70

fervent chasm
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damn

atomic garnet
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atleast i got my ddr5 before everything happened

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went from a 5600 to a 7500f, brother called it pointless, guess whos laughing now

green marsh
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i am kinda positively surprised at Qwen3.5-35B-A3B speed on CPU only, and on not even a very powerfull system

atomic garnet
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though cl38 ram vs cl30 was also a choice

green marsh
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i mean it's not great, but for what it runs on, it is awesome 😄

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(it's Mac mini 2018 with i5-8500 & 64GB DDR4-2666)

atomic garnet
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ram...

limpid tapir
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heyo what now

green marsh
# atomic garnet ram...

yeah, got it for the mini at early stages of RAMpocalypse. I think it was like 140 euros total for 2x32GB DDR4-3200 SODIMM (but mini only does 2666)

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got another 2x16GB kit sitting in storage (waiting for work to decommision their Intel Mac Minis)

limpid tapir
green marsh
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i use a 64GB SSD tho in one of my systems - i have a 15 year old SSD used as Linux boot drive for a HTPC

cosmic gazelle
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wait @pure garnet i just had a genius challenge attempt thought

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i’m gonna try to get the 2400g to perform better with 1 8gb stick and oc than 2 sticks and everything stock

brisk jolt
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english please

cosmic gazelle
# brisk jolt english please

like comparing the fps in like cs2 or something with a max single stick ram oc and gpu oc vs everything stock but dual channel

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(my second stick isn’t coming for 2 days)

steel stream
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what

young void
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He joined today to summon that person lmao

young void
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I shower every other day or so

fringe vigil
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It’s funnyyy

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someone sent me this I’m like bruh

hoary hatch
young void
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Sometimes if sweaty thats valid or working out, or before/after a shift

steel stream
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1x a day for me

young void
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As long as one is clean bless

low sorrel
shell void
pure garnet
low sorrel
young void
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Yoooooo these sales

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Msi has one to!

devout ridge
devout ridge
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Love you Wormm

young void
shell void
young void
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And 4k thats hypeee

topaz veldt
young void
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Its nothing to write home but is real solid if needing an oled and not quite at the 4k tier

topaz veldt
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27" 240 hz qd-oled for $431 is nice

steel stream
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I approve of these prices

nova patrol
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where can i check cpu stability and that it works normally

devout oxide
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cinebench?

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OCCT maybe

steel stream
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OCCT

devout oxide
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cinebench if you want to see peak performance and OCCT for long sustained performance

steel stream
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cinebench isn't really a good stability benchmark

nova patrol
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im checking occt

devout oxide
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and cinebench give you graphs to compare

nova patrol
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i just wanna check if its underclocking or underperforming

devout oxide
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you can compare that score with scores of other tests with the same cpus

nova patrol
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i dont think its supposed to do that

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12700k

devout oxide
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what cpu do you have

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also your core clocks depend on what you are doing

nova patrol
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im doing the occt cpu test

devout oxide
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12700k what

nova patrol
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?

devout oxide
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i7, i9, i5?

nova patrol
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theres only i7

devout oxide
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ok

nova patrol
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its supposed to go up to 5ghz

devout oxide
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what are your temps

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its should be on the side of occt

nova patrol
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71 its not thermalthrottling

devout oxide
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show me your test options

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before you run it you get options to select and what now

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not*

nova patrol
devout oxide
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set it to extreme and steady

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that will max ur cpu

nova patrol
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still same

devout oxide
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hmm

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should look something like this

nova patrol
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yea thats what i sent

devout oxide
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do you have any power limits set in the bios

nova patrol
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id have to check that but i didnt do anything manually

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never tried to underclock or anything

devout oxide
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how high are your temps reaching

nova patrol
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70-71

young void
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Myte be a good time to update ones bios

devout oxide
devout oxide
nova patrol
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i cant do bios update i dont have a usb 🥀 ill check bios tho for anything weird

devout oxide
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and install chipset drivers too if you havent installed them

young void
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Can probs also just put the bios file on your boot drive as well but be sure you can find it in the directories, havent tried but 99% sure if doing it via bios on screen q flash

steel stream
nova patrol
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yea ill try that first

young void
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Clear cmos couldnt hurt either, or using the in bios reset function if applicable

nova patrol
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yea ill do this and just enable xmp or should i not touch bios at all

young void
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Xmp on is fine

devout oxide
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xmp and resize bar are a must on any pc

nova patrol
young void
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I dont believe so

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That sounds like a flash button

steel stream
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XMP is fine

nova patrol
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ok imma take out cmos and just turn on xmp

young void
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If not a clear cmos button taking the battery out for 10-15 seconds clears cmos, within bios a reset to defaults option myte be available as well

nova patrol
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dang its behind the gpu

steel stream
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there should be a reset to defaults in your bios

young void
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As brother akn mentions ❤️

nova patrol
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yea thats easier ngl

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oh shit its a super old bios 🥀

young void
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Whats your motherboard?

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Exact model*

heavy spire
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Power limited motherboard maybe

nova patrol
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3600mhz ram

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2x16 corsair

young void
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Pro-A?

nova patrol
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yea

young void
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This guy?if so ill drop some "just in case" links

heavy spire
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That board should be able to deliver enough power, so probably not that PES_Think

young void
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In this video, I’ll show you how to update the BIOS on the MSI PRO Z690-A (DDR4) motherboard, a popular and reliable choice for Intel 12th, 13th, and 14th Gen processors.

We’ll go through both the USB M-Flash and MSI Center methods so you can safely update to the latest BIOS version and keep your system running smoothly.

Updating your BIOS...

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If you do this just let it run till you get spit into windows

nova patrol
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yea still bugged

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how do i check if rebar is on and can that cause it?

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i treid ghe device manager and theres no large memory thing

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the e cores are clocked higher than the p cores 😭

heavy spire
young void
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Can't garuntee but bios update myte do it, is odd though

nova patrol
young void
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Sparks hasnt came in yet like fooool, hes usually a good halper

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Lol

nova patrol
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thats why in the finals gpu util is only 50-60

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cpu doin nothing basicly

heavy spire
# nova patrol 135watt

Try running single core or core cycler with a few cores, see if that makes em boost higher

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Could just be Intels default power limit holding it back

nova patrol
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what if i disable e cores

young void
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Id update bios that'll configure watts etc first

young void
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And fix any old bugs depending

nova patrol
heavy spire
young void
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What app is that or is that bios?

nova patrol
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occt

young void
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Oh ok

nova patrol
heavy spire
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Interesting

nova patrol
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yep

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max 2.8 on all

young void
nova patrol
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besides e cores they boost higher

nova patrol
heavy spire
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Might be time to update bios then yeh

young void
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No rush but should fix any limit, watt, volt, funkyness

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I ran a 12600k, and a 14700k never had issues juicing out

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If multicore enhancement is on intel goes full balls

nova patrol
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its a 2021 bios btw

heavy spire
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Pretty much a launch bios then

young void
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Thats why im figuring, latest bios rebars auto enabled or should be as well but that'd be in advanced pcie i think been awhile

cosmic gazelle
young void
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Mce does a few things but maxes more toward the tdp yiss unless set otherwise on pl1/pl2 etc

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Helps boost to ram frequency as well, kinda like AMD performance core boost/ the 5g setting it all ties together

heavy spire
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More juice to feed the cores NODDERS

cosmic gazelle
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on z97 multicore enhancement just made the 4790k all core boost to its single core boost

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but set voltage literally .15v too high

young void
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To keep things flowing hard to explain what it all does

cosmic gazelle
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for reference i run 4.6ghz at 1.28v which is probably higher than it needs to be, the z97 ud5h defaults to 4.4ghz at 1.31v

heavy spire
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Remember when the 8700k launched, reviews were all over the place because some boards ran MCE while others didnt

nova patrol
young void
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Newest non beta is fine

cosmic gazelle
nova patrol
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ok will do

young void
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From 8/18 bless

young void
heavy spire
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Maybe power limits if you can use it

cosmic gazelle
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it's really funny that my z97 is so overbuilt on the vrm that it's just like "give it as much voltage as humanly possible f it" on a cpu generation that used TIM

vale cosmos
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mostly one of these things where it depends on how the manufacturer implemented it

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i had some msi mobo that had a different OC option where I could overclock locked chips

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had a 3770 at like 4.8ghz or something

cosmic gazelle
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can you undervolt a locked intel cpu? that would be another interesting thing to find out

heavy spire
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Good ol' eclk on locked CPUs

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MSI did that up till the 12th gen iirc

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12400's running at 5ghz

young void
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Haven't played with a locked chip tbh, I know ill wanna dabble. so cant say

cosmic gazelle
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i could totally find all these things out if i wanted to ruin my profile on the haswell system

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but that sounds like a pain in the ass so it'll remain a mystery

heavy spire
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I degraded my last haswell CPU hard

cosmic gazelle
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i get to start my 2400g oc tomorrow

heavy spire
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During its last days it could only run 4ghz stable

cosmic gazelle
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no there are it's just a pain when its tucked into a cabinet and i would need to take the cooler off and blegh

young void
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Valid

cosmic gazelle
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it's a pa120 and that thing is the bane of my existence when mounting it

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but anyways i'm gonna be using a 1dpc b350m board with one stick to start off with

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so i will either hit a memory ic wall or the imc wall

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and i assume the memory ics i'm using arent bad enough so i'm only limited by the imc

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hoping to find a stable 3466 profile

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or whatever that number would be

nova patrol
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i did the live update thing for chipset stuff first as he recommended and im on a black screen 🥀

young void
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Hrmm wait a few minutes myte be updating

cosmic gazelle
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i will also be using a bios that doesn't support zen 2 to ideally optimize microcode and stuff

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because this board appears to have never been touched

young void
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Not sure what step your at what time are you at in the vid? Ill check it out

nova patrol
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i did the chipset update

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not bios yet

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do i restart

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bruh its on

young void
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Could wait another few mins

nova patrol
#

i replugged hdmi 😭

young void
#

Sometimes just needs to refresh bless

heavy spire
#

PCs are weird sometimes

young void
#

Once bios update starts literally just hang out dont touch it

nova patrol
#

weird part is monitor was on but nothing came up

nova patrol
young void
#

It'll possible go black a few times

#

Wait till completely back to windows itll spit you there at the login pin screen*

#

Can take 5-10 minutes. It'll need to re memory train

nova patrol
#

3% done

young void
#

Myte be longer if really old, getting a sammy/drink is recommended

cosmic gazelle
#

5 minutes for memory training on am5?

#

or is he not on am5

nova patrol
#

lga 1700 ddr4

cosmic gazelle
#

oh idk then

nova patrol
#

60% done

young void
#

My 7900x was considerably slower then my 9900x and 9950x boot times

mild sentinel
#

my 3060 tells me that he want this AIO too 🤓

young void
#

By a good minute on the exact same mobo and bios

cosmic gazelle
#

yeah i think my 9800x3d hasn't taken longer than about a minute to either train or fail to train lmao

nova patrol
#

its done

young void
#

At windows?

nova patrol
#

yep

#

oh goodness 60hz

young void
#

Login then shut back down to bios and enable xmp

#

Should be set

nova patrol
#

did this shit wipe my nvidia drivers iy dosent recognkse gpu anymore 😭

#

ok no it took time

#

black screened and gpu appeared magicly in task manager

#

should i check occt

young void
#

Could

nova patrol
#

xmp is not on btw

#

should i turn xmp on first

young void
#

Could do both and compare if any change

nova patrol
#

ok yea ill do thay

#

i hope its fixed

young void
#

Never hurts to try stuff and see whats effected

heavy spire
nova patrol
#

ITSSS BOOSTING

#

3.5 rn

young void
#

Can also effect pcie, everything really

young void
nova patrol
#

its at 3.5 and it says 100% util but temps are at 40

heavy spire
#

Power usage?

young void
#

Only using a few cores probs

nova patrol
#

oh wait power usage 61 watts

nova patrol
#

wait maybe i did a bad test

heavy spire
#

Running corecycler?

young void
#

Check it under diffrent uses now that it boosts proper

#

Like cinebench etc with msi burner to monitor temps

#

Or hwinfo64 sensors

nova patrol
nova patrol
young void
#

Auto is probs just using half no biggie

#

Test cinebench for full use

heavy spire
young void
#

Or set to fixed and your value

#

Of threads*

#

-2 is good practice for the OS

#

Idk about occt but general core/thread use

nova patrol
#

ok i did 18 threads and watts still at 60

young void
#

How many cores ya got? UwU

nova patrol
#

12

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8 p 4 e

young void
#

So 24 threads uwu

nova patrol
#

its 20 threads no?

young void
#

Pretty sures

#

Ill check

heavy spire
#

E cores dont have HT

young void
#

20 you right

#

Either way sounds solid

#

Id test 3dmark or cinebench now for general range of performance now that its up to spec

heavy spire
#

Yeh, see if you still get 60w in cinebench

#

Might be running eco mode or something

young void
#

Forsures

nova patrol
#

do i go bios?

young void
#

It should do 150-190 in cinebench

#

Oh for xmp yiss def do that rq

nova patrol
#

ill check cinebench first before bios

young void
#

Sures

nova patrol
#

cpu package powerr 80 watts

heavy spire
#

That is pretty low

nova patrol
#

do i go in bios

heavy spire
#

MCE on a 12700k should be fine I guess

nova patrol
#

mce?

young void
#

Yes and see if mce is on and xmp

nova patrol
#

ok wait

young void
#

Multicore enhancement though typically auto enabled

turbid locust
#

I’m bringing sexy back

#

YEAH!

heavy spire
#

Could be that its running conservative intel defaults after all the 13\14th gen drama

young void
#

Maybe, also show a pic of your pl1 and pl2 in cpu advanced tab

#

Could be xmp not enabled so its not boosting higher wich is also possibles

#

But shall see

nova patrol
#

xmp was not on before and where do i find mce

heavy spire
young void
#

Show pic

heavy spire
#

Use advanced bios mode if you can

nova patrol
heavy spire
nova patrol
young void
#

Select performance

heavy spire
young void
#

And voila ❤️

heavy spire
#

Should turn it into a more normal 12700k

young void
#

It'll be good yiss then just use as normal get some cinebench and 3dmarks scores/temps

nova patrol
#

nothing else?

young void
#

All set fams

#

12700k is a icy chip bless

nova patrol
#

tiny aircooler on it too

young void
#

Atll do

heavy spire
#

Might have to adjust some casefans and whatnot later on in the bios if you want it to run more quiet

devout oxide
#

seems my idea was right all along

#

just a simple bios setting

heavy spire
#

Usually how it goes yeps

#

Most people have no idea which simple setting it is though, quite a few of em in there

#

Hell, most people dont even know what XMP is and if its turned on

nova patrol
young void
#

Still should avg 60-70c in gaming etc

heavy spire
#

If it can run 130w at 70c you should be fine

devout oxide
#

i got so see the good ending and im going to sleep now, goodnight yall

nova patrol
#

its still on 82 watts

young void
#

Weird what cooler?

heavy spire
nova patrol
#

thermaltake something its at 53c rn

young void
#

Hrmm

nova patrol
young void
#

What app?

nova patrol
#

cinebench r23

young void
#

Hrmmm

#

How odd

#

Its not throttling but likelinkthink

nova patrol
#

hm

#

its just not boosting

young void
#

Should boost toward 5

nova patrol
#

yep its at 3.5 doee

young void
#

Check power plan im windows maybe?

nova patrol
#

its on balancee

young void
#

Turn all power limiting in windows off

#

Full go, but still odd linkthink

nova patrol
#

theres no ultimate only power saving and balanced

nova patrol
young void
#

Gotcha

heavy spire
#

Sounds like its not boosting tbh, 3.5ghz is just baseclock levels

vivid kiln
young void
#

Just thinking

nova patrol
#

maybe bios thing?

heavy spire
#

Almost as if the turbo isnt enabled

young void
#

To throttle stop and away

nova patrol
#

😭

young void
#

Isn't diagnosing fun

#

Lol<3

#

Long shot but if its just that box to fix itll be funny

nova patrol
#

bios apparently has turbo boost opttion do i check if thats on

heavy spire
#

Could check that I guess

#

Supposed to be enabled by default

#

But you never know, bios can do weird things

#

Who knows, maybe you have the same issue as the guy in that thread had

young void
#

What is oc explore mode and show the options if you go back in, within that tab, but also run throttlestop as in that thread and show if the disable turbo box is checked

heavy spire
#

Maybe its enabled in bios but that box is checked in throttlestop

nova patrol
#

wheres oc explore mode

#

disable boost wasnt on in throttlestop

young void
#

First tab in bios

heavy spire
#

Maybe just search for it in the bios

nova patrol
#

oh bios wait

heavy spire
#

See if Ctrl+F works in that version of MSIs bios

nova patrol
#

ithought in throttlestop mb

young void
#

All good, just that box was curious

nova patrol
#

oc explore mode is set to extreme

young void
#

Whats the other options?

nova patrol
#

normal

heavy spire
#

Does Ctrl+F bring up the search box?

nova patrol
#

yep thats how i found it

heavy spire
#

If it does, just search for Turbo

young void
#

Myte also need to accept the bios advanced tab warning

nova patrol
#

yep all enabled

#

do i enable enhanced turbo?

young void
#

This is very odd, can try*

#

Also click advanced and goto the cpu tab for me

#

Accept the oc warning*

nova patrol
#

there mobo and oc settinga no cpu settinga

young void
#

In advanced from the main page show that screen

#

And did it pop up the warning yet?

nova patrol
#

no warning

young void
#

Motherboard settings>

#

Hammer and wrench icon

nova patrol
#

that has advanced system status boot and save exit

#

this is advanced

young void
#

Back on the oc tab select advanced cpu configuration, and show that screen

nova patrol
young void
#

It all looks appropriate, hrmm

#

I see the functions but why arent they working linkthink

nova patrol
#

😔

young void
#

Can go back to the main tab and try unlimited but I dont think its going to boost appropriately, (it may though)

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
young void
#

In the cpu cooling option*, could also try oc explore mode normal but long shots

merry stirrup
heavy spire
#

Wonder if MSI is dumb and this just locks the cores to 3.6ghz

nova patrol
merry stirrup
#

is he trying to oc? i though he had a b series board lol

merry stirrup
young void
#

We updated his bios flops wich fixed his base clocks right on his 12700k

#

They where low

#

Butt he wont boost higher then 3.5/90w

merry stirrup
#

not boosting in what scenario, all core? it could just be hitting power limit

turbid locust
young void
merry stirrup
#

pick something lighter

#

run a game see if normal boosts are observed then

#

and what’s Power during allat?

heavy spire
# merry stirrup okay more info

12700k wouldnt boost higher than 2.8ghz. Updated bios and now its running baseclocks at 3.5ghz-ish, at like 80w even with 253w limits etc. Weird stuff

merry stirrup
#

if z690 id reset to default and just unlock the power limits

#

clearly something is misconfigured

young void
#

Thats what we just checked (fresh updated bios)

nova patrol
#

still at 3.5 all p cores

young void
nova patrol
#

66 watts

young void
merry stirrup
#

idk find the cpu perf limit reason in hwinfo and see what it’s saying

#

should let us know how the board is behaving

nova patrol
merry stirrup
#

cause it’ll say like Vr Limit or turbo limit or etc

young void
#

App to install on windows*

merry stirrup
#

hwinfo
sensors only
find cpu performance limiters or whatever

nova patrol
#

no i have hwinfo but where in hwinfo

merry stirrup
#

i’m not at my desktop but it’s not hard to find just click around the cou section

nova patrol
#

gt limit yes

merry stirrup
#

GT limit is igpu and can be ignored

nova patrol
#

others no

merry stirrup
#

what about the rest?

merry stirrup
nova patrol
#

its only these right

merry stirrup
#

hold on let me get on my desktop and see if that’s the right one, i don’t think it is

#

should be a slightly more detailed one

atomic veldt
#

Anyone know if when i change motherboards but keep the same ssd(going from am4–>am5) i have to change anything? like will my windows still be there etc

merry stirrup
#

yes it will be but you should just reinstall when swapping platforms

atomic veldt
merry stirrup
#

yes

atomic veldt
#

and how come you should? does it affect anything if i don’t

young void
#

Oem keys will require a new key with a diffrent mobo, the retail version gives 12 uses on diffrent boards I think

merry stirrup
#

if not you leave extra drivers/software you’re not using specific to the board/ and just old crap that you don’t need

atomic veldt
#

ah right, thanks mate

young void
#

Backup important saves etc and fresh install is best

atomic veldt
#

going from a 5700x3d to a 9850x3d cant wait

young void
#

Thats gonna be wicked

merry stirrup
#

yeah so my IA limit reasons have an entire like field of things it could be @nova patrol

atomic veldt
merry stirrup
nova patrol
merry stirrup
#

IA is intel architecture and it means the cores

nova patrol
#

all of them are no tho

merry stirrup
#

are you doing something atm?

nova patrol
#

no

#

do i turn on cinebench or occt

merry stirrup
#

okay well change that

heavy spire
merry stirrup
#

just do something

atomic veldt
#

also another quick question the motherboard i’m getting is max 8200mhz on the ram, the ram i’m getting is 8000mhz, would that cause any instability?

merry stirrup
#

yes

atomic veldt
#

should i put it down a bit?

merry stirrup
#

but not because of the board and because ryzen in general does not like 8000 MT/s ram

heavy spire
atomic veldt
merry stirrup
#

you should set it to 6000 C30 specifically with FCLK set to 2000 and the UCLK div mode set to MCLK = uCLK

atomic veldt
nova patrol
#

cinebench is on nothing so far

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
#

during cb

#

whole thing, power limit and temp and whatnot too

atomic veldt
merry stirrup
#

yeah ryzen doesnt ram oc too good

nova patrol
atomic veldt
#

i was getting tons of errors in ooct stress test with it at 3600

merry stirrup
#

and this is after h updated his bios with no other changes?

young void
#

Right!!

merry stirrup
#

interesting, on an MSI board?

nova patrol
#

ye

young void
#

We changed normal cooler tuning in bios to unlimited after trying performance (just adjust pl limits from 253 on performance to 4000+ on unlimited) and xmp

merry stirrup
#

does your board have flashback? we can try the opposite of what we just did lol

young void
#

See the shenanigans flops

nova patrol
nova patrol
#

i dont have a usb tho 🥀

young void
#

For real, myte be degraded but that be balls

nova patrol
#

no boost 12700k 🥀

merry stirrup
#

idk degraded usually means it just will crash at stock setrtings

#

this just doesnt boost which makes me think something is wrong rather

#

try uhhh just clocking it to max pcore boost in the bios lol

young void
#

Couldn't say never seen intel not eat watts

#

Usually just takes it

merry stirrup
#

so 4.7 is the max pcore boost

nova patrol
merry stirrup
#

ok go into your bios and type 47 into that box

#

leave everything eles auto for now

nova patrol
#

ok

merry stirrup
#

come back and show us hwinfo voltages and clocks

young void
merry stirrup
#

im also thinking it could be a windows thing if nothing in the bios works, maybe he has some program or power plan that sucks?

young void
#

We did check power saving options not sure if we went over power plans, can check as well with fresh floppa eyes

#

Cause im stumped

heavy spire
#

Balanced should be fine in most cases

merry stirrup
#

if its balanced and not changed otherwise yeah it should be fine

#

you can stop boosting instantly if this isnt set to 100% lol

nova patrol
nova patrol
young void
#

We also checked ltt forum checked throttle stop, disable boost wasn't checked

merry stirrup
nova patrol
#

do i change this first one to 4700?

merry stirrup
#

pcore ratio to 47

nova patrol
#

ok

merry stirrup
#

yes type 47 into the box

young void
nova patrol
#

do i change every core?

#

i only changed the first p core ratio

merry stirrup
#

you set it to allcore big dawg

#

which is good

#

just save and exit you are done

nova patrol
#

ok

merry stirrup
#

change nothing else

young void
#

Here's to hoping

merry stirrup
#

raitio limit =/= set ratio btw my bad i coulda explained that

#

ratio limit is like a fused frequency limit that your chip uses for the singlecore boosts

#

how it says "up to 5ghz" on the box, those 2 cores set to 50 are the best in your cpu, so they get the 50 limit for 5GHz

#

the rest of the cores there will not ever hit 5ghz by themselves because of the fused frequency limit

heavy spire
#

Strange how it went from 130w at 2.8ghz on the 2021 bios, to 60-80w at 3-ish Ghz after the bios update. From bad to a different type of bad

young void
#

If it boost appropriately the extra wattage should come into play

#

Manual setting to boost to 4700 should by all means fix it but just a weird thing to be set by default by msi on not 1 but a super old and new bios

heavy spire
#

Well, its MSI so you never know

#

Fought many battles with MSIs bios

nova patrol
#

ok this is hella weird

merry stirrup
#

yeah, idk, i dont have any exp on msi past 0x129 which is why i asked if he has flashback

nova patrol
#

135 watt now but still 3m.5 and temps rose

merry stirrup
#

because i dont think anyone should be on past 0x129 on lga 1700

nova patrol
#

ffa

merry stirrup
young void
#

Pics

nova patrol
#

yes 3.5 i cant type on phone

merry stirrup
#

oh my bad

nova patrol
young void
#

Somethings up, just idk lol

nova patrol
#

cinebench running

merry stirrup
#

yeah idk something indeed up

#

without physically being there, issues like this suck

pure garnet
#

do they have hwinfo installed

merry stirrup
#

yes

nova patrol
#

ye

pure garnet
#

to check the current/loadline/yada

young void
#

We are deep kyoko

merry stirrup
#

yeah idk this is like the point where the board is ignoring manually set ratios lol

young void
#

Right its just refusing. And I know intel loves watts and eats freq so it goes against what I know

pure garnet
#

i don’t see a current limit posted unless i missed it

heavy spire
#

Just stops at 3.5ghz

merry stirrup
#

for power profile*, so there shouldn’t be any way it’s hitting a limit

nova patrol
#

weird how its using 135 watts at the same clocks

young void
#

We did our diligence

merry stirrup
#

idk id be using hardware info, maybe see if your vrm is throttling somehow

young void
#

Maybes, something its a weird one

pure garnet
#

the numbers line up but the board just isn’t sending enough current

#

1.2v @ ~100a = ~130w

nova patrol
#

what can cause that

merry stirrup
#

we don’t know is basically the tldr lol we tryna figure this out with you

pure garnet
#

throttling is my leading theory, or cep

merry stirrup
#

we’d think manually set limits or something but everything is on auto and it’s ignoring even manually set clocks

pure garnet
#

try disabling cep actually

merry stirrup
young void
#

Hrmm linkthink

merry stirrup
#

could be the wordt 12700K in the world and want a million amps dor stock but

heavy spire
pure garnet
merry stirrup
#

interesting okay

#

@nova patrol find the advanced cpu section and find CEP

#

can probably just search it, disable it on everything

nova patrol
#

mobo seems fine

merry stirrup
#

nuhuh

#

it is oddly static at 1.2 v core

pure garnet
#

well it's not boosting

young void
#

Right right

merry stirrup
#

shouldn’t it be clocking down at least? lol

#

idk stupid cou

pure garnet
#

i'd still shut cep off first and see what happens

#

msi might have the loadlines configured stupid so it's in mad baby mode

young void
#

Maybes

civic reef
merry stirrup
merry stirrup
civic reef
#

Oh yeah I am pulling 150 of André's finest Amperés and I am not even sweating

civic reef
merry stirrup
#

450w 13900Ks

pure garnet
#

idek what vrm this board has

#

18+2+2 110a apparently

nova patrol
turbid locust
#

Floppa shitposting from the shower

young void
#

XD

pure garnet
#

yeah bro has casper's haunted cpu

nova patrol
#

can it be windows issue

pure garnet
#

what power plan are you on

young void
#

Haven't checked that other then the balanced*

nova patrol
pure garnet
#

try setting it to performance or ult performance for giggles

#

and see if the clocks change at all

nova patrol
#

i dont see those options

young void
#

They said it doesnt have that option earlier*? But myte be wrong options menu

pure garnet
#

click this

merry stirrup
pure garnet
young void
#

I to was curios

#

Ty kyokos

young void
#

Ulti performance

nova patrol
civic reef
merry stirrup
#

if nothing work id try flashing back to 0x129 or below at some point

nova patrol
#

ITS BOOSTING

civic reef
#

Give it a kw

nova patrol
#

4.7

young void
#

Ggs

nova patrol
#

😭😭😭😭

heavy spire
merry stirrup
#

man i even said power plan

nova patrol
#

no way it was that all along

merry stirrup
#

okay reset your bios now

young void
#

Now set unlimited back to performance if you get a chance lol

civic reef
#

How many megawatts did reactor 4 put out for a tiny amount of time before exploding? Make that your target power use

merry stirrup
#

enable xmp and msi extreme profile

young void
#

In bios on the cooler tuning*

heavy spire
#

Windows being windows

pure garnet
nova patrol
#

cpu burning 🥹🥹🥹

merry stirrup
young void
nova patrol
pure garnet
#

idk i run 1000a max on my daily system

#

kaboom

merry stirrup
nova patrol
young void
#

Performance* is fine at 253 limit pl1

merry stirrup
#

just reset to bios and enable XMP with the extreme mode

young void
#

These chips are meant to hit 90c under loads

merry stirrup
#

then ur good

nova patrol
#

Can I just reset bios and just enable all the stuff i need

pure garnet
#

yeah

merry stirrup
#

yes that’s what i’m telling you to do lol

pure garnet
#

kaboom

nova patrol
merry stirrup
#

we did a lot of random stuff may as well undo it all

nova patrol
#

yep

young void
#

Frigging windows

#

Ill never forget its shenanigans

#

Well gg squad

heavy spire
#

Funny how its a setting that works fine for most people, but is somehow broken for others

pure garnet
#

i spent a day fighting with audio drivers just to end up needing a different usb port

nova patrol
young void
#

Happens

#

Diagnosing is fun rightttt Derps

heavy spire
#

Well, time to enjoy much better CPU performance

#

12700k locked to 2.8ghz cant be fun

nova patrol
#

one last test

merry stirrup
#

time to diagnose: 1 shower

nova patrol
#

i can finallt run the finals at 200 fps 🥹

#

why is my fan at full speed tho even after restart

young void
#

But kyoko walked him through and I needed flops for sanity

merry stirrup
#

lol

heavy spire
young void
#

Fresh eyes team work for the dream work

merry stirrup
young void
#

I was stumped, I saw the functions it was breaking me

merry stirrup
#

kyoko my minion fr i was telling her to say that on god

pure garnet
#

we buying asus floppa

merry stirrup
#

likely

pure garnet
#

i put the msi vbios back on my gpu and it started bugging again so i just flashed the master back

#

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