tech-chat-2

[merry stirrup]

what up snookums

[steel stream]

what if it continues on trend and just somehow keeps the same value as 10 years ago

[devout ridge]

wanna play when did the 270k release?

[vestal granite]

huh thats weird looks like it unreleased right afterwards

[topaz veldt]

that was actually just my 7 y/o dumping his 20% in Intel on Paypal

[merry stirrup]

@pure garnet so is nia a no go or not

[devout ridge]

day trading bitches trying to make money on the high

you can see the average is still up, that's the people who made long term investments due to the release

[merry stirrup]

well i’m trying to make money while high day trading

we are not the same

[shell void]

Xeon 600 and Arc Pro B70 were launched on March 25th, that's probably the cause for that spike

[devout ridge]

what's the best drugs for day trading?

[vestal granite]

i swear theres no way day traders make up enough of intel's shareholders to cause big moves like that surely surely surely right surely

[shell void]

not a desktop cpu that nobody is going to buy

[merry stirrup]

are you serious

[cosmic gazelle]

im committing to ocing that crc b die, my theory is i can hit 3433 or whatever it is on a single stick

[vestal granite]

qualudes

[devout ridge]

no, i already know the answer

[merry stirrup]

we know damn well what it is

[pure garnet]

im gonna rma nia and then sell you a brand new one

so give me like a couple weeks to sort that out

[merry stirrup]

if it’s for similar money idgaf sounds good

[pure garnet]

yeah

[merry stirrup]

+30$ for the time or something

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/what-seems-to-be-the-problem-officer-yo-i-got-this-gif-25350272

[merry stirrup]

countach

and it’s a US one with. the stupid front spoiler

[devout ridge]

the funniest part is this is only somewhat exaggerated

[merry stirrup]

love them though

[vestal granite]

yeah i was there thats pretty much how that guy was in real life

[devout ridge]

He was bat shit crazy, but not to the same comical degree as the movie

[vestal granite]

gordon gecko or christian bale or jordan peele or borden cheese or whatever his name was

[devout ridge]

that said, it's a funny ass movie

[wraith steeple]

Ooooohohohoooo let's give her a test drive of games we had with our original 486DX2-66 now that all the drivers are installed

[vestal granite]

i recently read on The Internet that the US dollar sign is actually supposed to be the one with 2 lines not 1 line

[devout ridge]

yeah no one cares

[wraith steeple]

Shit happens

[vestal granite]

because back in the old days before MTV we had the spanish empire, right, and they had Spanish Pesos

and on shipping logs theyd write SP for spanish pesos

and then over time it overlapped cause youd write the log quickly

[topaz veldt]

It has happened

[vestal granite]

and then they dropped the loop on the P so it became $

[devout ridge]

no!

[shell void]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-fire-fireplace-close-eyes-trying-not-to-laugh-gif-6468484066733403642

[vestal granite]

and then there was US Dollars, in 1792 the US dollar was made and it there wasnt really a symbol and spanish pesos were still legal tender at the time, so over time to differentiate they added a U overlapping the S to make the 2 lined dollar sign

oh sorry the spanish did PS not SP

so idk how the history exactly worked out you know but the 1 line is spanish pesos PS and the 2 line is united states spanish US overlapped

[pallid marsh]

[vestal granite]

"hittler"'s campaign advisor asked what his middle name was but i guess it wasnt good enough to use that either

[wraith steeple]

We are for sure adding 3D Space Cadet on here for sure

And Hover! is a fun one too

[wraith steeple]

Is this an Onion Article?

[pallid marsh]

lmao no its real thing

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2d1drzgxzyo

[pure garnet]

windows fast boot is disturbingly fast

@shell void the windows reinstall fixed it

guess swapping alc codecs from thing y to thing z broke it

[hoary hatch]

Okay 270KP is already delayed

Fuckin UPS always gonna UPS it

[slim pebble]

Oh shit, is that a Wireview pro2?

[pure garnet]

rip, how long?

[shell void]

https://tenor.com/view/winrar-jay-cutler-ronnie-coleman-dexter-jackson-olympia-gif-27338293

[shell void]

thank gord

[pure garnet]

i've only listened to the same 5 tracks like 400 times to rule out crackling but

seems like we're good now

[topaz veldt]

@green marsh I loaded the model and yeah its chunky

[zenith fog]

Funny guy

[pure garnet]

btw in independent issues my headphone cable broke @shell void

so that's part of the crackling lol

[turbid locust]

I need to speak to the CEO of arctic

Whichever engineer designed mounting hardware that has to be taken off to swap a cpu should be shot

[low sorrel]

An artist and an actor

[trim agate]

Wait what I gotta take off my mounting hardware to replace my cpu?

[turbid locust]

if you’re on AM5 with a liquid freezer 3, yes.

[trim agate]

Omg you’re right

I forgot it has that weird X thing

Yeah good thing I just upgraded to a 7800x3d I’m not upgrading for years

[turbid locust]

like it just blocks the ILM from being able to come up lol

[trim agate]

Or I might just replace the liquid freezer with an thermalright assassin

[trim agate]

Great design, it keeps your cpu in place!

[turbid locust]

Can’t believe @pure garnet is making me take z890 off my bench the day before my 270K+ arrives

[topaz veldt]

Dude so many are this way

[trim agate]

TBF it’s 4 screws

[topaz veldt]

its annoying though

[topaz veldt]

wait why

[trim agate]

I’m so annoyed that iCloud doesn’t have a 500gb or 1TB option

[topaz veldt]

its like 200GB and then 9TB

[trim agate]

Yeah 200GB then 2TB

[turbid locust]

She’s having VSoC voltage droop issues on the new board and was asking to see what my Gene did as reference (I don’t mind lol)

[pure garnet]

yeah the range im seeing is really odd

[trim agate]

I don’t wanna pay $10 extra when I don’t need 10x the space

[pallid marsh]

$1,020 a year

who tf is doing that

[trim agate]

$800 USD*, but yeah awful

I just want to access all my photos on my phone, backing up to a NAS means I can’t access it directly off my photos app

[pallid marsh]

$300 for a 12tb new hdd and $80 for a 4th gen intel OptiPlex

[turbid locust]

I really hope this m.2 I’m putting in this board has an OS on it

[topaz veldt]

ah word

[nimble pike]

This is why NAS is my next project

[trim agate]

I have a NAS, but I want to access my photos & videos off the native Apple photos app

From my understanding I can’t have them backed up to my NAS while also accessing those same photos & videos off of it on the native app

[hoary hatch]

31st-1st

[nimble pike]

The 290 plus cancelation probably happened months ago

[topaz veldt]

check into immich

[turbid locust]

Forgot how loud this LF3 is now jfc

[topaz veldt]

I just boxed mine back up

it'll go in my technology museum (basement)

[shell void]

some day in the distant future you’ll achieve a setup that works

[trim agate]

I actually have immich running on my nas, thing is it doesn’t integrate the same way iCloud does where I can save a smaller local copy on my phone then downloads the original quality when I want to access it, native support accross all Apple devices, etc etc. Unfortunately I can’t have the cake and eat it

[turbid locust]

@pure garnet

Manually set to 1.2v, one reads 1.2v and the other 1.199v

[pure garnet]

oh so my board just swings crazy hard

[fringe vigil]

[turbid locust]

Baller

Also the OS that was on this M.2? my old z790 install. lol.

[topaz veldt]

I also do not have droop on vsoc

[nimble pike]

Your what?

[topaz veldt]

LF3

[nimble pike]

Ohhhh cooler

[topaz veldt]

@turbid locust so this dude got downed by a shredder. He crawled back into this smaller room, the shredder went in with him. I uh... didn't kill the raider... but I also didn't try and kill the shredder, but I aggro'd the shredder to make him shoot.... so like.. not murder? directly?

[turbid locust]

LOL

[turbid locust]

is this with 1.3v set

[pure garnet]

no this is with 1.25v set

[turbid locust]

oh lol

Wonder if it's just defaulting a weird LLC

[topaz veldt]

yeah check llc

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-officially-confirms-core-ultra-9-290k-plus-will-not-be-released

I wish they would just say "The 270K Plus is the 290K but its not enough uplift and we'd get made fun of so..."

[turbid locust]

lol

[shell void]

9950X3D^3 (cubed)

[trim agate]

I still haven’t learnt the new naming conventions for intel chips

[nimble pike]

Waiting for them to fix the 16 cores so they're gaming friendly.

[nimble pike]

Nobody has

[trim agate]

I don’t know anything past the 14900k

Core Ultra 9 290K Plus

[nimble pike]

Intel needs to get it together.

[trim agate]

We’re getting close to Sony levels of naming conventions

[trim agate]

Actually no these are just random letters

[trim agate]

At least this sounds premium

I think?

[nimble pike]

Fix the socket change every generation first and foremost.

[shell void]

i wonder which one of you will get the best 270K

[trim agate]

I want a 10g managed switch

[turbid locust]

put cache on the IO die bruh

[brisk jolt]

their current socket does not allow for some threading stuff and they want to swap back

[nimble pike]

AMD got 5 generations of CPUS on AM4. Intel boasted about 3.

[shell void]

we crocheting?

[trim agate]

Shoulda stopped at 4, then have 5 generations on AM5

[nimble pike]

Thats cool, I understand that, but the consumer doesn't care about that.

Windows keys are tied to your motherboard. Having to switch it out every time you upgrade something is annoying.

[meager saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/release-the-kraken-clash-of-titans-gif-26590372

[shell void]

normal people are not upgrading CPUs multiple times in the same motherboard, and they’re also not buying OEM keys from sketchy websites that bind to your motherboard instead of a microsoft account

[trim agate]

Replacing a motherboard to upgrade a cpu feels like unnecessary cost and time to be fair

[topaz veldt]

you can just use wood screws when you instal your mobo and then its not tied to it

[shell void]

i think platform longevity is cool but i also think that people overestimate how useful it is to normies

[ripe needle]

How many hits on virus total until you wouldn't download a file?

[nimble pike]

I'll yield on the second point, but the first point I don't subscribe to. AM4 has proven that you can have 8 years of CPU support on a socket and have it work just fine. AM5 might be the same boat, especially with how beefed up the initial chipsets were.

[topaz veldt]

You can actually use an AM4 adapter

there are some tradeoffs but its worth it

[trim agate]

Am4 adapter?

[shell void]

that’s good tech bro

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-hiromi-higuruma-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-jjk-memes-gif-10370496866020481076

[shell void]

i usually just double sided tape my board to the case

[brisk jolt]

I usually screw it in very deep to the ITX case till its so secure it could withstand being flung across the room

[trim agate]

I throw it across the room anyway

[shell void]

i wish computers still had the pop out cupholders

[nimble pike]

If you bought an X370 board in like, 2017, your Ryzen 1700x wouldn't even be able to run Windows 11 paired with your GTX 1080. You can still own that board and get a new CPU that runs well with a 5080.

[brisk jolt]

now it sounds like we have a broken record playing here

[shell void]

how many bugs in my computer is too many? like when should i be concerned

they don’t seem to be blocking airflow

[topaz veldt]

I didn't realize how much hair a computer fan could rip out until I tried

[nimble pike]

They're quite effective

[pure garnet]

if you bought an 8700k in 2017 you'd be able to run win 11 and have a faster cpu the entire time

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ilyakiritsugu-ilyakopitov-ilya-kiritsugu-kiricugu-gif-10838799723078599737

yeah fuck it no 270k

[nimble pike]

Why are we arguing that more compatibility is a bad thing? What's going on here?

[trim agate]

Hey I’m running an 8700k right now

[trim agate]

I dunno man I’m on your side here

[shell void]

i think you just blew their mind

[trim agate]

If I want to do a CPU swap I shouldn’t need to buy a new motherboard considering I just bought one 2 years ago since intel decided to switch their socket again

[brisk jolt]

you’re not wrong you just sound like a broken record

and most of us here dont really care if theres a different platform we’d just buy it regardless

[pure garnet]

im not saying platform longevity is a bad thing but im saying am4 had 2 bad gens and 1 decent gen before 1 proper intel competitor

so it's not a great example of value because you had better cpus available the whole time

[low sorrel]

I mean I went from 1700x in 2017 to 5800x in 2024

[nimble pike]

But not if you bought a 6700k, you couldn't. Despite the socket being the same. Intel decided to lock it out.

[shell void]

you waited 7 years to get performance that you could’ve just got in 2017

[pure garnet]

if you bought a cpu 2 years older than amd's haswell? oh well

[low sorrel]

Yeah but I had a 1060 for 5 of those years

[hoary hatch]

Platform longevity is great if you buy in at the beginning of the platform and is less meaningful the later into the platform life you get

[low sorrel]

^^^

[shell void]

the $120 5800X with free ram deal was ballin tho i will admit

[low sorrel]

-80 dollar 5800x if we go by current market price

[nimble pike]

That's still not a bad thing.

[low sorrel]

We never said that's a bad thing

[hoary hatch]

People who bought Zen 4 early on? They'll have some nice Zen 6 upgrades
Someone buying a 9700x now? In 4 years they'll be picking between an "outdated" Zen 6 processor or an upgrade to am6

[low sorrel]

That shit actually was night and day ngl

[nimble pike]

Assuming DDR6 is available lol

[hoary hatch]

It will be in some volume

I'm curious what LGA1954 will be

Nova lake will be D5 only afail

But D6 will be a thing towards the end of the socket life

[nimble pike]

I dunno, I've gone from a 2600X all the way to a 5800X3D with the same board and RAM. Been great.

[low sorrel]

NGL my next cpu purchase is probably going to be Intel with the paths are going

More cores have made endorphins go brr

[nimble pike]

AMD has GOT to fix their IO and Memory controllers.

[hoary hatch]

I never upgraded my AM4 system

[trim agate]

2nd paragraph was my struggle when I was thinking about upgrading my 5600 last year, either overpay for a 5800x3d or splurge on a new platform

[hoary hatch]

If 5800x3d had been available when my 2700x memory controller shit the bed, I would have been interested

But at the time picking between a 5800x and 12700k was a no brainer. 12700k was faster

[meager saffron]

i need to stop being lazy sell the 5800x3d...

[nimble pike]

Unless DDR5 prices crash or the new Ryzen/Intel chips are banger out the gate, I might just wait until AM6

[hoary hatch]

Meh
It's probably appreciating by the day

[nimble pike]

It is

[meager saffron]

last i checkd last month it was max 480-500

[nimble pike]

They START at like 500 now

[meager saffron]

lol i was sitting on the idea of selling over a year ago

i upgraded in dec 2024

[trim agate]

USD? For a 5800x3d?

[nimble pike]

It'll always hold value of some kind. Fastest CPU for gaming on AM4.

[meager saffron]

its kind of like do i do the same thing for am5 get a zen 7 cpu and hold out xD

[trim agate]

My fucking god

[low sorrel]

What have we done

[trim agate]

They’re going for $350 USD here in Singapore

[nimble pike]

64GB of DDR5 is $1000. Or I just sit on my DDR4...

[low sorrel]

I have become poor, destroyer wallets

[trim agate]

I’m so glad I bit the bullet and upgraded to AM5 last year

[trim agate]

I paid $325 for my 7800X3D….

[turbid locust]

Best chip of a socket always goes to dumb prices when the socket goes EOL

go look for a 10900K

[nimble pike]

RAMPOCALYPSE has made that doubly so for AM4 and LGA1700

[low sorrel]

I wonder how much my 3300x is on eBay

[nimble pike]

$40

[meager saffron]

i also have trident royal 32gb of ddr4 but it doesnt sell as much for the price that the 5800x3d does

[trim agate]

Surely nobody actually pays for this

[turbid locust]

apparently they do

[meager saffron]

Frosty if you go to the sold section on ebay

they most def do

[turbid locust]

6 year old CPU btw

[topaz veldt]

ooof

[meager saffron]

i just never sold anything before on ebay but my accounts old asf plus i buy stuff not sure that holds any merit

[low sorrel]

Damn

I remember it was more then MSRP still like 2 years ago

[nimble pike]

DDR5 is 3X the price of DDR4. For barely and performance gain if at all. And worse compatibility. No thanks.

[low sorrel]

Apparently it's rare or smtg according to @edgy laurel

[edgy laurel]

it doesn't exist

[trim agate]

$325 - 7800x3D
$100 - 32GB DDR5 6000MHz CL30
$200 - B650-E (mobo prices were nuts)

[meager saffron]

wasnt always the case i bought my ddr5 64gb in dec 2024 it was cheaper than my ddr4 that cost me 310 32gb when i upgraded to am4 in 2019

[trim agate]

Prices I paid in Oct 2025

[meager saffron]

my ram was $280 for 64gb of ram now its $1189

[trim agate]

I really should’ve bought 64gb

I guess I don’t need 64, but like i’d feel happier

[meager saffron]

i always upgrade to more each new tier i go up maybe next in am6 i would go 96gb if the price is right

[nimble pike]

I didn't even consider AM5 because single core didn't improve that much.

[meager saffron]

all about that cache man on the x3ds

[trim agate]

Unrelated - is the screen & speakers on the MBP that much better than the MBA

[nimble pike]

Yeah but I have that on AM4

[meager saffron]

my next big upgrade will be going to 4k its a sin having a 5090 not at 4k

[nimble pike]

Nahhh 1440p is great

[trim agate]

Monitor upgrades are always elite tho

Especially resolution upgrade

[meager saffron]

theres too much QDoled vs Woled and i just want to wait till at least computex to see if the LG tandem Woled panel comes out from Asus the UCDM3 32inch looks solid but also scared of all the negatives of qdoled eyestrain and it being so fragile

[nimble pike]

OLED underwhelms me

[brisk jolt]

im assuming this is USD

[meager saffron]

ive been 27inch 1440p for 12 years

i want to try 32inch lol

[brisk jolt]

i didnt know you were 27 inches tall with a 1440p camera damn bro

[nimble pike]

I have a Nano IPS and it looks... better? Than the OLED I saw in store.

[meager saffron]

you play in a very lit area or place?

[nimble pike]

Store, yes

[meager saffron]

that would be why MiniLED is your friend then but stuck at 165hz

[nimble pike]

I have a 5070ti, I'm not hitting 200hz 1440p most the time.

[topaz veldt]

5070 Ti chad

[trim agate]

Yes

[nimble pike]

And I'm NOT using FrameGen

[meager saffron]

i have a gen 1 woled so my fps gets well past 240fps usually unless its a game with path Tracing thats also another reason to upgrade to 4k but mostly the 32inch is what id like with the monitor having tri mode to go in 27inch mode if i wanted to or just push the monitor further back lol

[brisk jolt]

I bought two kits for basically the same and my CL26 for like 250 pre tax

[trim agate]

Why the fuck are motherboards so expensive

[nimble pike]

The difference between my current monitor and an OLED just doesn't seem worth $500

[trim agate]

I get it’s an AM5 ATX but jeez

[nimble pike]

Material shortages, increased complexity.

[meager saffron]

everything is expensive these days

[trim agate]

This was before price hike

[nimble pike]

Look at a 775 motherboard compared to an AM5

[brisk jolt]

if you think thats bad look at am5 itx boards costing more and having a pathetic IO because amd cant make a proper CPU without choking multiple things

[meager saffron]

i cry cause i spent the most amount of money ever on a motherboard on am4 and you would all laught at me

i thought amd was like intel and motherboard mattered for ocing

you can run amd cpus on cardboard boxes

[nimble pike]

It does though, to an extent.

Especially on the hungry bois

[trim agate]

Yeah ITX pricing sucks

[meager saffron]

yes but you didnt spend 3x the cost of what forsty linked on a am4 motherboard LOL

it was x570 Xtreme gigabyte board

[nimble pike]

You had me until Gigabyte

[brisk jolt]

If I want to grab another ITX system im basically forced to go Intel, and the only real option is a Z890I Nova, but thats from amazon

[nimble pike]

OC motherboards for AM5 don't even make sense because you cannot overclock the X3D chips.

[trim agate]

Hahaha I’m happy I don’t care for these things

My PC sits underneath my table and I’m glad I truly don’t care how it looks

[nimble pike]

I'm full ATX or EATX if I can

I miss HEDT

[brisk jolt]

why are we lying

[meager saffron]

i dont know how people play with stupid amounts of RGB next to their monitor if theyre serious about gaming

i think my next build im going open air

[nimble pike]

Did they fix that?

[trim agate]

I might go etax on my server

[brisk jolt]

9000 can

[nimble pike]

Ahhhh okay, that's better then.

Just like... give me more than 24 lanes please

[brisk jolt]

270K is tempting but rn my primary issue is single core performance/wanting the stacked cache

[shell void]

lga1954 (ddr5 and pcie5)
~2027 nova lake (officially confirmed)
~2028 razer lake (named in linux kernel)
~2029 titan lake (rumor)

am5 (ddr5 and pcie5)
~2027 zen 6 (officially confirmed)
~2028 zen 6 refresh (inevitable)
~2029 zen 7 (rumor)

no rush for ddr6 or pcie 6 in consumer desktop, especially with how ram pricing is now, but also because there’s still a lot of room for ddr5 to improve

[brisk jolt]

so objectively my best decision is to just forsake arrow lake and go nova

[trim agate]

I think I’m always gonna be an ATX guy for my main pc

[brisk jolt]

sorry they are entirely incapable of making a chip having that unless its name starts with T

[nimble pike]

Intel could do it!

[brisk jolt]

my main PC is a HS420 and Im not changing that for a long time

[nimble pike]

If Intel brought back something akin to X99 I'd be happy

[trim agate]

Just curious - how many pcs do you have and what purposes do they have

[nimble pike]

PLEASE

[meager saffron]

i had such high hopes that maybe rtx 6000 and zen 6 would be on 2nm but its not looking too good atm everyones streching their timelines since the ram crap

[brisk jolt]

currently 3 but Im selling my b860i 265k at cost to a friend in April

[trim agate]

So 2?

[shell void]

zen 6 was officially confirmed to use tsmc n2 a long time ago

[nimble pike]

I need ALL the lanes

[brisk jolt]

and Im just gonna use that to fund my table+monitor upgrade

[trim agate]

Ic

I’m using intern funds to fund networking gear and table

[nimble pike]

I have ZERO faith in RTX 6000

[meager saffron]

i think zen 6 will still be on n2 but rtx 6000 is cheapening out and going 3nm from the looks of things recently postd

[trim agate]

Perhaps upgrade GPU or get into OLEDs I dunno

Wait no I’m getting a MacBook nvm

[shell void]

as far as i’ve known the rtx 60 series was always going to use N3P

[brisk jolt]

my intern funds will be going towards novalake

[trim agate]

NS funds will fund my gpu

[nimble pike]

Fully expecting the RTX 6080 to be 10% over the 5080

[meager saffron]

is n3p the adavanced version of 3nm or the starting version of it

i forget how many 3nm nodes they have

[brisk jolt]

i need to “preserve tires” at this point and actually get stuff that matters

[shell void]

it’s the final form

[meager saffron]

like even calling Blackwell 4nm was BS its still a 5nm node

[trim agate]

I need a UPS

[shell void]

i mean the names are arbitrary anyway

[nimble pike]

The only card I expect any uplift from is the 6090

[trim agate]

And I want a minipc/optiplex

I need a fucking server rack

[meager saffron]

6090 out before GTA 6 kekw

[nimble pike]

$4,000 MSRP

[shell void]

hopefully bro, i need it to run gta 6 with pathtracing

[brisk jolt]

respesctfully GTA 6 is overhyped

[meager saffron]

if i can sell my 5090 astral for 4000 i can buy it for free right surely

[nimble pike]

GTA 6 won't be out until 2028 lmao

[brisk jolt]

also GTA 6 PC port is at the mercy of rockstar games

[meager saffron]

^

[low sorrel]

GTA 6 can never never not be overhyped

[trim agate]

Hmm I want a 4090

[nimble pike]

Do you... do you guys think...

In a generation or two Nvidia will go from RTX to ATX?

[meager saffron]

didnt Sony annouce they would have steam exclusives? not that has any baring on rockstar I just hope its not 6months to a year again for GTA to release on pc

[nimble pike]

My power bill doesn't

[nimble pike]

It'll be 18 months

[trim agate]

I want a lot of things

[meager saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/so-pissed-im-work-mad-gif-23416426

[nimble pike]

There's SO MUCH optimization Rockstar has to account for.

Plus they have to build Online

[brisk jolt]

us 9 intel GPU owners will be out for blood at rockstar if we arent included

[nimble pike]

Is the B580 as fast as a 3060?

[brisk jolt]

ti

[nimble pike]

You'll be okay-ish

I feel like the main hit for GTA 6 will be CPU, actually

[meager saffron]

are we sensing some Crimson Desert shenanigans ?

[nimble pike]

There's gonna be a LOT of physics to simulate.

GTA6 might be the game that kills DDR3 platforms.

As being viable

[brisk jolt]

tell me what ddr3 platform is viable

[trim agate]

My server

[brisk jolt]

you have some of the most NPC takes ive seen today

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-gif-24903806

[nimble pike]

X79, Haswell.

[cosmic gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/ive-been-summoned-berry-mint-gif-26570751

[nimble pike]

4790k is still a helluva CPU

[brisk jolt]

Target locked on 2 targets sending airstrikes to their location rn

[trim agate]

https://tenor.com/view/mahmoud-le-mahmoud-igor-igor-cykel-cykel-gif-25526387

[nimble pike]

Like dude, this thing still rocks at 1080p

https://youtu.be/l8GyGF-m6wI?si=l1TQsqjWPknA5BiC

[trim agate]

Ok but it doesn’t handle Goliath 120b while playing cyberpunk at 8k 120

[turbid locust]

Obligatory “haswell is all you need” comment

[nimble pike]

If you're an esports gamer? Yeah

Most of my budget builds nowadays use Haswell

[brisk jolt]

does haswell even qualify for cyberpunk

[nimble pike]

He runs it in the video lol

It's actually pretty good.

[cosmic gazelle]

at 4.6 and with some fast ish ram it’s still good for 60fps in all but the most demanding titles

ue5 stuff isn’t gonna be good but that’s obvious

[nimble pike]

But if you're getting a $300 PC...

Not a bad deal

I mean, Brazil still uses first gen i7s and Core2Quads

[cosmic gazelle]

plays tarkov pretty okay

(this is an oc that later showed itself to be unstable but it’s only 100mhz so probably not that different)

[topaz veldt]

yawnzo

[nimble pike]

CPU?

[cosmic gazelle]

4790k silly guy

[nimble pike]

Neat

[turbid locust]

270K+ tmr

well, today technically?

Day 1 bin please god

[topaz veldt]

Newegg @turbid locust ?

[turbid locust]

Yeah

[pure garnet]

mac ty again for getting the gene out

i got all the audio issues sorted

[turbid locust]

np boss

[pure garnet]

my nic was shorting the hd audio cable out

[turbid locust]

wtf

[pure garnet]

and i had interference up the chain

bc they were on top of each other

[turbid locust]

Fire lmao

Did you try the LLC stuff to fix the vsoc

[pure garnet]

nah bc the actual cpu one is 1.25

[turbid locust]

hmm

[pure garnet]

i went in the bios but i didn't see it and i was talking to someone about something

the hero (so presumably the gene too) has a different monitoring setup

[turbid locust]

lit

[pure garnet]

guy on hwbot call it die sense monitoring

overclock.net*

[turbid locust]

I see

But yeah it works out cause I usually take the boards off the bench to swap the cpu anyway

Bit easier to swap the cooler when it’s off the bench… for now. Once I get the other room setup I’ll have a nice thing going.

[brisk jolt]

have fun

if mac doesnt get a good bin wallahi im glad i didnt fall into the same trap /s

[turbid locust]

[brisk jolt]

9000 or bust

[merry stirrup]

9 is avg 🚮

[turbid locust]

Floppa I will arrive at the doorstep of your workplace

Do not ragebait

[merry stirrup]

apex 🥱

maybe the apex of z890 pricing

[brisk jolt]

I can go grab the 270K rn but nah ive given up

[turbid locust]

OCF is deadass worse in every way but auto terminations lmfao

[brisk jolt]

genuinely how does one manage this

[merry stirrup]

the one without a 9133 valid

[turbid locust]

don’t worry I got you tmr

[merry stirrup]

okay sounds good

[turbid locust]

floppa casually forgets I haven’t tried >9000 on H24M Cudimms yet

[merry stirrup]

snail had shit exp on cudimms

it doesnt change signal integrity on a board that can already do 11K on ln2

[turbid locust]

snail doesn’t know terms sauce

[merry stirrup]

ig but i dont htink anyone has had a great exp with cudimms improving an IMC on a board thats already 1dpc

[turbid locust]

anyways bed time

[topaz veldt]

CUDIMMs are a scam

[turbid locust]

I got mine for $240 while they were listed for like $700

it is what it is at that point

besides Floppa is gonna get me some non CUDIMM H24M soon anyway

[merry stirrup]

he did let me buy a psu today

homie needed one

20 dolla off

[wicked kestrel]

From the Mark Rober NAS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO6DMWHK_HA
I feel like a 12 wide 3 spare would be better?

[merry stirrup]

first kit seems kinda buns but idk if i should blame the ryzen system that cant retrain 8200

(probaly should)

gotta bring da ocf to work

(im just gonna buy kyokos maybe friday and bring it if i can)

[turbid locust]

If you’re gonna bin DDR5 for some stupid shit it needs to be done on a 1dpc board with either a verified ARL chip or an AM5 APU

[merry stirrup]

whatchu think i said another ocf for

[turbid locust]

yur

[merry stirrup]

9133 chip binning 8200? we lit

[cosmic gazelle]

🙏

Can I get a matching kit for $28

we shall find out when I wake up

[turbid locust]

The benchmark is 8200 40-52-52 @ 1.32v now btw

[merry stirrup]

this guy haS been binning cpus/mem/boards

for like idk how fuckin long

and has finally reached the point where i got on my edge on the first 3 hours

literally just spams this the entire day its dope but like bro 😭

[merry stirrup]

fuck dawg i got like 4 separate 12 hr karhus/vt3's just not at the same time because scizophrenia controller

[turbid locust]

yeah I did not have a good time on z790

[merry stirrup]

yeah not great

even w/manual terms

[brisk jolt]

I feel like even if I got a 9000 bin this mobo wont want to do it anyway

[turbid locust]

the 16 hour 8200 run that errored in 10 secs on a restart killed my soul

[merry stirrup]

im glad its an accepted factor it cant do anything but bench on high freq

yeah it can do 9000, for 4 minutes

but itll be the most consistent 4 minutes out of the memory controller

but you go back and retest something in a different fuckin humidity level or something and nothing wokrs

[brisk jolt]

are you still up

[brisk jolt]

gg I went to ask about 270k and its fucking 400 USD post tax

[merry stirrup]

still less than a 285 no? seems decent

[green marsh]

sometimes i have no idea what goes through the mind of coding models... Like right now instead of editing files, it decided it will modify my code with sed (failed at that) and now wrote a python script to edit it 😄 )

[wispy ember]

Any recommendations for cellular service in the US?
Google Fi is letting me down a bit currently.
I need WiFi calling and decent general coverage, use a few gb a month, and couple dozen hours worth of calling ( I know nearly all offer unlimited calls now but still)

[brisk jolt]

i think if anything Im moving my aunt from a 7600x to a 250k/270k

AMD idle power draw is ass

[devout ridge]

Oh no! 10c more per month!

takes 450 years to recoop the cost of swapping platforms

[brisk jolt]

iroh shutup ur ruining my excuse to downsize :C

[devout ridge]

I am all for poor financial decisions, but just recognize that it is one

[green marsh]

"launched"

[livid flame]

PCPP has 270kp at $357 for me and a 9900x at $314

9700x at $264.

AMD hard undercut this Intel launch. Lisa Su is not messing about

Gaming price to performance of the 270k just got lost

[brisk jolt]

and we were on some intel isnt relevant ahh yesterday

amd is still wary of what intel can do

[hexed karma]

Is 3d v-cache vs E/P cores an ‘either/or’ kind of thing or is there an eventuality where amd can up their core counts or intel integrates 3d v-cache

Bc right now more cores would be awesome but I don’t wanna sacrifice my absurd cs2 frame rates

[brisk jolt]

AMD wont adopt E cores for desktop at least not in any of their current plans, only increase core count but still wont be at the total core count of ARL/NVL

NVL at the other hand is confirmed to have bllc which is l3 cache

[hexed karma]

ooo boy

[shell void]

i need my beloved 8p16e 144MB Nova Lake Compute Tiles

[brisk jolt]

where is your sword 52c beast

[shell void]

my ES U9 495K is in an ES Z990 Apex with ES 2x128GB 8000MT/s CQDIMMs right now

[brisk jolt]

if novalake is the most goated thing oat im swapping my aunt off her 7600x b650

Ill take a U7 465/470K and a U5 445/450K

[shell void]

i’m scoring ~110K in Cinebench R23, and i’m gapping my 9800X3D hard in games

[brisk jolt]

we’re*

[shell void]

i don’t see you in the lab next to me

[brisk jolt]

im actually in a little hotbox with the ITX mindset

[fervent chasm]

I bought car LEDs from aliexpress and they’re arriving today

Can’t wait to be finally able to see on the road

But probably everyone else won’t be able to see anything

[atomic garnet]

this chip got so unlucky with ram pricing

[topaz veldt]

thats ok

[fervent chasm]

What is it even a replacement for?

Or what is it supposed to be better than

[topaz veldt]

its just different

[dusty lotus]

265k replacement

[topaz veldt]

no

its actually a 285K replacement

[dusty lotus]

bs

they would do a 290k as a 285k replacement

[fervent chasm]

We need a 290k pro

[topaz veldt]

I have strong suggestions from a source that the 270K+ is the 290K renamed

[dusty lotus]

it isnt

[topaz veldt]

they did so because 285K to 290K (270K+) wasn't a big enough difference to make any one upgrade, so they dropped the price and hope the Ultra 5 and 7 crowd will buy in

[atomic garnet]

270k msrp lower than 265k 😭

[topaz veldt]

Exactly

[dusty lotus]

so what?

[topaz veldt]

they are selling this one for extremely narrow margins

[atomic garnet]

tbf they were smoking crack with that msrp

[dusty lotus]

that doesnt make it a 285k replacement

[topaz veldt]

go away

I have contacts in the industry who have suggested it is

[dusty lotus]

go see official intel material

[fervent chasm]

Is 270k just a worse 285k? Didn’t get to see core counts yet

[topaz veldt]

Its BETTER

Its the same exact core count as the 285K w/ improved NGU/D2D. Its the 290K renamed.

[brisk jolt]

270k is a differently tuned 285k

[fervent chasm]

Looks just slightly lower clocked

[dusty lotus]

that suggests intel is abandoning the 9s

[brisk jolt]

not at all

[dusty lotus]

just like they abandoned the b770

[atomic garnet]

to me the 270k seems like a 287.5k

[fervent chasm]

Doesn’t that make it the better choice over the 285k?

[brisk jolt]

they just couldnt cook something up well enough to really surpass the 9

[topaz veldt]

no its suggests they didn't refresh the 9 because they had nothing spectacular

[fervent chasm]

It’s way better priced than 285k

[dusty lotus]

its priced better than 285k because its literally not a 285k replacement

[brisk jolt]

yes

[dusty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-just-typing-shit-bro-just-typing-shit-gif-18336060238854257551

[fervent chasm]

It has the same core count and slightly lower clock

[dusty lotus]

that suggests nothing

the 14100 is the same core count as the 4770k whats your point

[fervent chasm]

I didn’t say it was a replacement I’m saying it’s a better choice

Why would you buy the 285k over the 270k plus

.1GHz difference

[dusty lotus]

those who seek 9s

[topaz veldt]

I don't have time for moronic argument this early

[dusty lotus]

linus tech arguments

[brisk jolt]

this is a paper debate not an actual one

[topaz veldt]

"who seek 9s" what the fuck

[dusty lotus]

that one was a joke

[brisk jolt]

im calling the police if you said that irl

[dusty lotus]

because 285k doesnt make sense

[fervent chasm]

I’d like to see the performance difference but I have a feeling this is the case too

[topaz veldt]

so anytway I sold a 285K for a 270K+

[dusty lotus]

over the 270k

[dusty lotus]

but some dumbasses would still buy the 285k because its a 9

[topaz veldt]

270K is faster than 285K lol

[fervent chasm]

Yah I’ll sell mine

I got my 285k for $350 tho

[dusty lotus]

faster than amds flagship

fuck you amd

[topaz veldt]

I got $350k for my 285k

[dusty lotus]

get back to the bankruptcy age

[fervent chasm]

I just got lucky, I had a good CC promo and PayPal 20% cash back

[dusty lotus]

intel on TOP

[fervent chasm]

On top of that it was a bundle

[brisk jolt]

let me know (flex on me) your 270K findings good sir

[dusty lotus]

do i need 7000+ mts ram for those new cpus?

[brisk jolt]

no

[dusty lotus]

i have a 6000mts kit

feeling like its little low

[fervent chasm]

It would be funny if Intel made each “ultra X” a different socket size

Ultra money move

[brisk jolt]

not even 1% diff between 6000 and properly tuned 8000 in actual gaming which does not consist of 1080p everything low

[dusty lotus]

so no difference even if i do 4k

just better cpu performance overall

[fervent chasm]

You’ll have better lows probably

[dusty lotus]

i mean it would be a giant upgrade over my 14700k

ill just wait for nova lake

[brisk jolt]

novalake is definitely the play if you already have a cpu that satisfies your needs

[dusty lotus]

it is strong but efficiency is ass

[fervent chasm]

Is nova lake gonna be a different socket?

[steel stream]

yeah

[fervent chasm]

Bruh

[dusty lotus]

1951 according to sources

something 19xx

[fervent chasm]

Are they ending it at that and going new again after?

[brisk jolt]

1954

[steel stream]

LGA 1954

[fervent chasm]

Fuck I hate Intel and its stupid socket system

[dusty lotus]

dude intel has been doing that shit for ages why are people complaining now

[fervent chasm]

Yah but we used to get like 3 gens out of one no?

[dusty lotus]

no it was 2 commonly

[steel stream]

nah it's always been a mixed bag for support

[fervent chasm]

It’s kinda sad that the 270k plus outperforms the 285k

[dusty lotus]

longest lasting was 1151 with 4 generations but then it was 2 versions of it 2 gens each

[fervent chasm]

Or that it’s anywhere near it

[brisk jolt]

we cant exactly blame current intel for the past one’s mistakes because 1851 is incapable of hyperthreading while current intel wants to revert back to tried and tested

[steel stream]

fuck you Lip Bu Tan

[dusty lotus]

intel wants to bring back ht?

[steel stream]

i think NVL should still not have HT

[dusty lotus]

lmfao what

[fervent chasm]

Why would they bring back HT

I thought there was more pros than cons

[steel stream]

yeah Lip Bu Tan says it was a mistake to get rid of it, iirc they might bring it back but just for enterprise skus

[dusty lotus]

why is it necessary

[brisk jolt]

afaik on something like a 13/14900 HT is useless

[fervent chasm]

Is it better for e cores or something

[dusty lotus]

ht increases consumption and they already proved that on arrow lake with 285k running nearly the same as 14900k

[steel stream]

nah

[dusty lotus]

e cores dont use ht

[fervent chasm]

Just leave it off by default and let people enable it in bios

[steel stream]

HT is better for P core only skus

[steel stream]

nah because that still adds complexity to the die

the whole point of removing HT was to increase efficiency and free up die space

[dusty lotus]

intel doesnt know what to do anymore

[steel stream]

RIP Saint Pat

[fervent chasm]

I think the efficiency gains are worth it

With disabling HT

[steel stream]

yeah with modern day e cores it's not needed

it still makes a little benefit for P cores, but consumers don't get P core only skus

Michael might know more about this

[fervent chasm]

Ah so would it be even more complex to add HT when you have both P and E cores?

Over just P

[dusty lotus]

no ht allows for even distribution of tasks to cores

[topaz veldt]

🤔

[dusty lotus]

instead of a core handing 2 things at once it handles 1 but faster

[fervent chasm]

In know how HT works

[dusty lotus]

2 small hands vs 1 big hand

[steel stream]

ok michaels here he's got this

🐐

[civic reef]

https://youtu.be/5aruyKTIvz8?si=jw7kqlndOCdhk4ph

Didn't know Intel sent PRESS kits of their 250/270K

[shell void]

Hyperthreading is coming back to the Xeons that only have Pcores starting with “Coral Rapids” which will succeed the next gen “Diamond Rapids”

[civic reef]

They even included RAM with it

[steel stream]

holy shit I'm goated

[shell void]

a lot of businesses still want Pcores with SMT

as far as i’ve seen consumer CPUs will continue using P+E without SMT until they switch to the unified core architecture

[steel stream]

yeah that's what I remember, I think someone at Intel said removing HT from enterprise was a mistake or smth

[shell void]

lip bu tan himself said that

if pat stayed then they’d probably have stayed on the track of not using HT for anything

[steel stream]

yeah here we go

we miss you Pat

[shell void]

this sumbitch frank yeary

he needs one of these dropped on his house

[steel stream]

real

[brisk jolt]

and we wouldnt have this socket dilemna

[fervent chasm]

i did not know the 285k costs so much

literally a no brainer to get the 270k plus over it

yah ima sell it lol

[wind sand]

What vcr would you trust your life on?

[brisk jolt]

I think exploding myself is fine over these 2

[cosmic gazelle]

he accepted 🙏

[wind sand]

do it right now 😠

the bigger one will outlast you anyways 😭

[brisk jolt]

?

[wind sand]

It has been serving for 40 years with no new grease

[brisk jolt]

ok and

[cosmic gazelle]

sad, if i had offered 6 less cents my am4 bench would have cost under 150

[shell void]

did u order xg32ucwmg?

[fervent chasm]

almost $30 for 8gb of ddr4

wild

[brisk jolt]

it’ll arrive on 30th Mar and I can only use on 10th April

[fervent chasm]

what app is this

[brisk jolt]

shopee

[fervent chasm]

never heard of it

but ive seen it before here

[brisk jolt]

its a SEA shopping platform

[shell void]

oh r u gonna be busy until apr 10th?

[brisk jolt]

I can only schedule the table delivery to be 10th april that it doesnt clash with mine

then Ill be selling off the monitor and ARL build on the same day

[shell void]

what monitor r u using right now that u plan to sell?

[brisk jolt]

AW2725DF

[cosmic gazelle]

it’s relatively decent ddr4 i will probably get 3466 out of it i believe

[brisk jolt]

I’ve got a deal with a friend already

[shell void]

[cosmic gazelle]

i’m gonna test these memory sticks independently and if one of them sucks literally because of batch code i’m gonna be pissed

[topaz veldt]

I need to test memory and sell it

[trim agate]

holy bang

[steel stream]

release the FSR4 files

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/formula-one-car-crash-gif-8120045

[turbid locust]

Apparently my 270K+ is already out for delivery

I haven’t even gone to work yet. Fuck.

[dapper junco]

Poor buemi

[topaz veldt]

same

[turbid locust]

things gonna get delivered and I’m gonna still be at work lol

[brisk jolt]

omg free 270k

[steel stream]

you woke up feeling really sick today right

[turbid locust]

I accidentally became important at work I can’t do that anymore unfortunately lmfao

[steel stream]

suffering from success

[fervent chasm]

Mac im surprised your banner doesnt have a single frame of him doing the squat

[brisk jolt]

How do you accidentally become important at work

Genuine question

[turbid locust]

Insane

[fervent chasm]

anytime ive seen him it included it

[turbid locust]

Uhhhh it was a job I only intended to work for about a year before I went back to school and then about 8 months in they told me they had a management position opening up and wanted me to do it

[brisk jolt]

Lets kidnap mac from work

[wise bear]

Imagine experiencing this

"help i turn left but not go left"

[steel stream]

I'm supposed to get a package today but it's stil in Indiana as of 2 pm yesterday so idk what's going on with that

[turbid locust]

Lost in the corn fields

[steel stream]

fr

fuck you Indiana

[fervent chasm]

i hate amazon sometimes

i did a return and ive been waiting almost a month for the refund

[steel stream]

my package is USPS so idk what's up with that

[steel stream]

i don't even have prime anymore tbh

[fervent chasm]

what i buy usually gets free shipping anyway

i dont need next day

so i never get prime

[steel stream]

yeah I had to order something yesterday and just had my roommate with prime order it for me lol

[fervent chasm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lswbpVtAhrc

damn, if they just found a way to fit a fan into it, would probably get some significant gains

[steel stream]

yeah but is it really needed

the people buying this laptop don't need it to be souped up, they just need to browse the web

[wind sand]

isnt it a phone chip

[dapper junco]

it is

[wind sand]

and isnt there a damn 1mm of air between the bottom of the case and the chip itself

slap a thermal pad there NOW

[steel stream]

phone chips are designed for tight thermals and exactly situations like this

the chip is fine for what the device is meant to do

[vestal granite]

god my neighbors are so cool, sometimes when im in my bathroom i can hear them blasting their music and its always cool shit like metallica or linkin park or alanis morisette

way better than hearing country music 24/7

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/charles-leclerc-bruh-banana-suit-charles-leclerc-gif-27525709

[fervent chasm]

already has one

[frank zealot]

HUH

This is a really weird RDR 2 mystery
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EDRPbJ8WeV0

the fact a dev fuckin' put this much effort into hiding... something is absolutely nuts

[slim pebble]

So the 270K needs DDR5 8800 to beat a 9950X by 0.8%.

Let us know what you manage to get your memory running at on your sample

[topaz veldt]

In what

I mean the graph shows it beating a 9950X at defaults

in gaming

It smokes the 9950X otherwise

[pure garnet]

i think i'll take 0.1% loss at jedec to save half the price personally

[topaz veldt]

its a $349 beast

[turbid locust]

I need this state to pick a fkin season

[topaz veldt]

lol

[turbid locust]

Yesterday it’s sunny in the 70s today it’s raining in the 40s

[topaz veldt]

it was like 77 yesterday then it rained and now its like 50

[turbid locust]

44 feels like 28 is what my phone says

[steel stream]

same, high 60s yesterday, high temp of 30s today

feels like 18

[topaz veldt]

it rained last night and i was worried about the concrete i just had poured

[turbid locust]

It’s bullshit

When I retire I’m moving wherever it’s 70 degrees 24/7

[steel stream]

don't want cool patterns in your concrete?

[steel stream]

I like the cold so it's ok

it's not ideal or great, but I love breathing in cold air

[turbid locust]

fuck the cold fuck the hot

60-70 degrees or DIE

[steel stream]

70-80s is mint for me

[turbid locust]

the moment it’s below 60 or above 80 fuck you

[hoary hatch]

tbh 82, a bit cloudy, and a nice breeze is equisite

[turbid locust]

75 no breeze sunny is peak

[pure garnet]

so you need to move to 2 places

[turbid locust]

Yea

[atomic garnet]

isnt it 299 (unless i misunderstood something)

[hoary hatch]

mac will be the next frank lloyd wright

[pure garnet]

it was $299 until newegg went greedy

[hoary hatch]

live in the north in the summer and southwest in the winter

[atomic garnet]

oh well it will be 299 some day

[steel stream]

I know someone that lives in michigan in the summer, goes to florida when it gets too cold, then goes to mexico when florida gets too cold

[hoary hatch]

it will be $270 some day with a game bundle

[brisk jolt]

if that day ever comes with a good game I might pull the trigger 👀

[hoary hatch]

W choice my friend

[golden totem]

i bought 34gb ram

[brisk jolt]

However I shall indeed do NVL day 1

[brisk jolt]

dude got 2gb from downloads

[golden totem]

why but why i get frames per sometimes

[lone scarab]

u da real ram

[frank zealot]

Microcenter's selling an 1851 Board with a 270K+ Pre-Installed?

That's fookin weird

[topaz veldt]

Not only that but you can add the bundle to your cart but you can't buy the CPU yet

[frank zealot]

yup

but you'd be stupid to not buy the bundle w RAM

[civic reef]

There's also a 7500X3D bundle btw for $349

B850M-VC + 7500X3D + 1x16GB 6000 CL36

[pure garnet]

msi :( but it's a good bundle

[topaz veldt]

unless you dont want a mid af z890 board you can't sell.... and like 6000 CL90 ram

[shell void]

what's your 270K going to be worth in a year or two anyway? xD

couple dollars?

[pure garnet]

yeah z890 resale isn't even a factor

you can buy a hero brand new for $350 and the amd equivalent is $700

[topaz veldt]

I dunno meng my 285k just sold for $350

[shell void]

by that math your 270K would go for $175 in a year or two

[topaz veldt]

this guy thinks I keep a CPU for a year

[steel stream]

hmm

[civic reef]

Friends don't let friends buy MSI ✨

[topaz veldt]

what we getting

[steel stream]

replacement knob for my element lol

[atomic garnet]

what can you buy atp

[steel stream]

i just have a feeling it isn't coming today

[topaz veldt]

oh they sold you one

[steel stream]

yeah, support was pretty quick and friendly, I had one ordered within 2 hours of emailing them. 40$ + shipping

[civic reef]

ASRock, (Non 1815) Gigglebyte, ASUS, errr... I am forgetting the other company options

Who else,,,,

[shell void]

@brisk jolt i forgot to mention that you should buy a good HDMI 2.1 cable if you don't already have one

the XG32UCWMG gets kinda pissy if you run 4k240 10bit with vrr over dp1.4, and they only give you a dp1.4 cable in the box

[brisk jolt]

hm

oh wait i do have a hdmi 2.1 cable

[shell void]

[pure garnet]

msi is going to fix loong nia

then floppa will revive her reborn form

[slim pebble]

My MSI 322 came with a UHBR20 cable, no complaints!

Well maybe one, you guys should have told me how good OLED was like two years ago. 😆

[steel stream]

this whole channel is OLED city man lol

[atomic garnet]

burning cpus, poop, "we damaged your product and its now out of warranty, lol"

if i were to listen to the internet id be gaming on air rn

[brisk jolt]

the oh so humbling experience of going from a 5070ti to a 5060ti

[steel stream]

whimsy and joy to pain and agony

[low sorrel]

5060ti not that bad

[steel stream]

for a 3060 user

[brisk jolt]

i never expected to say this but with how small the 5060ti is I cant screw it in properly and normal orientation will literally have it fall off the PCIE

it might be funny to say but holy ive never seen 13w idle LOL

[steel stream]

https://www.amazon.com/WiiM-Pro-Chromecast-Multiroom-Compatible/dp/B0BJDY6D1W think I might buy one of these tbh, might be cool to use my headphone amp with airplay 2

[hoary hatch]

Ugh I probably won't or maybe I will

Ugh

[topaz veldt]

These guys are fuckin legit - I didn't even ask for this but they're running 2 conduits under each block staircase/landing so I can pull speaker/LED lighting easier

so sick

[steel stream]

do it man

[steel stream]

they know what's up

[devout ridge]

have they done work for you before?

How did they even know that it would benefit you?

[topaz veldt]

Nope - I got 3 bids on this project and we really only talked with and met with the design guy, he was great, they were the medium $ bid

[hoary hatch]

Depends how much boards and bLLC are

But ya know sales after it's been out for a while will help

[topaz veldt]

I told them I am going to run outdoor audio in the gardens and not sure how to get wiring throughout and the designer was like "No prob we can do conduit" but I just figured quick and dirty

[devout ridge]

The designer, and the install guys are absolute bros for that

[topaz veldt]

Yeah the design guy was incredibly smart about how this works but I had questions and he's like "I will have my foreman on site for the entire project and they will be dialing in all the details once they get the grading started, I will have him talk to you"

and yeah they are just complete fucking rockstars

[devout ridge]

You can tell they want repeat customers, not just one and done

[topaz veldt]

Constantly using a level and plumb bob

[steel stream]

you must buy on launch and overpay 1.5x

[topaz veldt]

Yeah I am going to refer the shit out of these dudes

[devout ridge]

Doing good work is the best kind of advertisement

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[devout ridge]

don't need to pay for ads when your work is so good your customers rave about it to everyone they meet

[steel stream]

yeah i was gonna say this is an easy referral

[topaz veldt]

So I make decent dollars right. My bosses boss is also having a patio done. You can imagine his property and budget. He showed me photos throughout and they did NOTHING like this. He was so pissed when I shared some prelim photos so far.

[brisk jolt]

if i was ur “bosses” i too would also be ragebaited

[devout ridge]

Boss's boss is pissed he didn't use the company you did

[topaz veldt]

well when I showed him the design he was wanted their number

so I gave him it but they don't go out his way

he's like 45 - 50 mins the wrong way and its not an area they service, so he was bummed

[devout ridge]

The fact the communication and quality is this high, but they were the middle bid is incredible

[topaz veldt]

but his place finished his patio a few weeks ago but ran over and smashed like 5 of his sprinkler heads, etc.

[hoary hatch]

Well with ram idk what I'd do with my arrow lake stuff

Selling it seems lame

[brisk jolt]

jesus

[hoary hatch]

Maybe I sell it to my roommate

[steel stream]

stupid NAS build?

[hoary hatch]

Well long term it very well may be a nas

Yeah I think I want to keep the arrow lake stuff is what I'm getting at

[topaz veldt]

Yeah the first place we got a quote from was insane. I gave them our budget (short like 10-20% because you always end up adding things) and it was like basically "we can't complete the project for that"

[shell void]

WOOO pat gelsinger glaze article that’s what it’s all about baby https://wccftech.com/intel-ex-ceo-blames-wall-street-for-america-losing-the-chip-race/

my king pat

[steel stream]

yeah I won't be selling ARL fs

[steel stream]

it's not glaze if it's just the truth

[hoary hatch]

I'll probably stay ARL until Titan lake
Or is it razer lake

Whatever LGA1954 2nd gen is

[hoary hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/intel-pat-gelsinger-papa-computer-chip-gif-4422124117738847315

[steel stream]

I like my ARL, and I can always add more ram to this build because I have two slots remaining, and a NAS just needs slow cores

[shell void]

wooo lip bu tan does literally nothing and gets to claim the credit for pat’s planning

we love firing our smartest ceo to replace him with a chinese finance guy

[devout ridge]

The company who sold me the R730xd said they were gonna get back to me at some point today about what the password is on the IDRAC, but still nothing...

[steel stream]

bring back Pat as Chief Vision Officer

[devout ridge]

Still a bit annoyed they didn't have the foresight to reset the IDRAC module before sale

BIOS and IDRAC reset should be standard practice

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/i-be-profen-gif-9435864923799777590

[brisk jolt]

if novalake somehow fails against zen 6 Ill go to Pat’s house and cry with him

[hoary hatch]

It would be so funny if zen6 had the same IOD

I genuinely thought we were going to get a 2026 Zen 5 refresh with a new IOD

[devout ridge]

i swear to fucking god, please AMD don't

[steel stream]

i want this to be true

[hoary hatch]

Me too bud, me too

[steel stream]

hopium

[hoary hatch]

So okay noob question time

Does single CCD Ryzen have memory bandwidth utilization issues

[steel stream]

this is like a michael or floppa question imma be honest

[hoary hatch]

+kyoko

[steel stream]

i'm not smart enough for that

[hoary hatch]

Not Mac

[steel stream]

yeah that guy is a major waffler

[shell void]

it’s still limited to the same amount of bandwidth per CCD so if your application can’t utilize both in parallel then the problem persists

and even with that it still has halved write bandwidth

[hoary hatch]

Oh this is what I was referring to

[shell void]

you get 64GB/s read and 32GB/s write per CCD at the default 2000FCLK

[hoary hatch]

Oh new bios drop today

Wait, the previous bios added 270k support

This one is just mem oc adjustment

Guess if I'm changing CPU I'm gonna update bios anyway

Bruh

Wtf does a z890 tomahawk 2 give me

[steel stream]

hawk 2?

hawk 2 huh????

I'll leave

[hoary hatch]

Bro no

[steel stream]

I'm sorry

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-arc-pro-b70-has-been-tested-in-games-45-faster-than-b60 Wendell doing the real work

[shell void]

ooh and that’s the 230W reference card

there are 330W models

[steel stream]

pretty good showing

[shell void]

greed

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/stallipiano-gif-8633409668543310298

[steel stream]

did he ever get a system with quad b60 duals?

[steel stream]

my school is in the sweet 16 and playing tonight, but they play at 10pm man

i'm leading my bracket again though after the houston loss

[turbid locust]

This is like, the fastest/most bandwidth you’re gonna get out of single CCD Ryzen

[pure garnet]

and it’s still fraud

aida read is made up malarkey

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-idk-iono-hands-up-gif-7122581203490458147

[pure garnet]

if you wanted actual ram bandwidth numbers for whatever reason ramtestpro shows them iirc

[steel stream]

nice latency

[pure garnet]

okay i've rerun vt3 for an hour, ran karhu for a couple hours

so i trust my 6400 tune in this system again

we have (for the moment) a stable computer

[turbid locust]

we’ll see how long that lasts

[pure garnet]

god bless the asus corporation

[steel stream]

kyoko will touch the computer by accident and it'll just immediately BSOD

[pure garnet]

till sunday when i screw with mixed mode probably

[turbid locust]

fire

[reef lance]

I'm gonna flip your bits

[cosmic gazelle]

amazon out here with the fire deals 🔥🔥🔥

[steel stream]

just need one special ray of solar energy 🙏

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-hell-nahh-aww-hell-aww-hell-nahh-gif-9659330954843262630

[pure garnet]

$80 for a 1600 😭

[fervent chasm]

why

[cosmic gazelle]

more like $0 for a bios update kit

[fervent chasm]

oh ur returning it? lol

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah

1600s are like 20 dollars

[steel stream]

reminds me of Mac's bestbuy method

[reef lance]

Bruh I just got my friend off that CPU a year ago. I could have sent it to you in a paper bag 😭

[fervent chasm]

whats the method

[steel stream]

you buy something, test it out, and return it lol

[cosmic gazelle]

eh it’s not worth it when amazon has free returns

[steel stream]

it's just that

[cosmic gazelle]

i just needed a zen 1 processor to use for 5 minutes and i’m not paying money for that

they won’t know the difference

[fervent chasm]

not even a method thats just how buying things works

[steel stream]

nah it's a slept on method

still not patched yet

[reef lance]

NGL I disagree with it. I would have just ordered a cheap zen 1 off of ebay but you might be in a different country.

[cosmic gazelle]

the real reason is amd only sends you the legit bios update kit if you can produce a receipt and show the serial number

which is super fucking stupid but whatever

[steel stream]

can you make sure you bend all the pins when you return it

[cosmic gazelle]

lol why would i do that

$10 or $0

[reef lance]

You never know when you might need one ¯_(ツ)_/¯ I don't like abusing lenient systems because that's how they get ruined.

[cosmic gazelle]

brother that’s how returning things works at any store in the nation

i could go do it at best buy they just don’t sell zen 1 anymore

a guy ordered and returned an anvil once a week and chipped a piece off and made his own anvil out of the chips and they still didn’t stop him

[atomic garnet]

my dad bought a sony xperia 10 v for 650€ this month

its cause sony stopped selling their phones here

thankfully i got it refunded and found a 10 vii for like 450€

[hoary hatch]

What was the tldr on b70 gaming

[steel stream]

looked decent, but this was only the 230 w model

[shell void]

45% faster than arc pro b60 on a 230W reference pro b70

[steel stream]

it needs some more juice, poor thing barely has any room to breathe

[turbid locust]

Bro what

[cosmic gazelle]

got my 2nd stick of ram for a good price mac

[hoary hatch]

NGL I'd love to see a 300W 16gb gaming version for shits and giggles

[cosmic gazelle]

it’s technically b die but it’s not good b die so we’ll see what it does at 3400

[hoary hatch]

Not as a retail product
Just for educational information

[shell void]

sparkle has a 330W version, maybe somebody will bench that eventually

[cosmic gazelle]

how much are they again? didn’t somebody say over 1k?

[steel stream]

reference is 949

[cosmic gazelle]

is it actually good value lol

[shell void]

it’s the cheapest 32GB card, but it’s a poor value for gaming

[cosmic gazelle]

so just gonna get bought by llm people