tech-chat-2

[pure garnet]

because 3080 died out of warranty so i replaced it then they did the rma anyway

[burnt socket]

screws

[pure garnet]

so i just sold the 3080 off after

[merry stirrup]

they both use screws

[pure garnet]

3080 was a shit card

[merry stirrup]

all this for the entire ic not to be cooled

[pure garnet]

340w dual slot 💀

[green marsh]

and in thickness, Corsair was the boss

[pure garnet]

thing was perma 80c

[merry stirrup]

dogshit

[civic reef]

[pure garnet]

i didn’t know how to uv with a curve back then i just ran it at like 70% power target

[merry stirrup]

😭 bro

[civic reef]

You can uv with a curve?

[merry stirrup]

youre going to make me day drink

[devout ridge]

don’t threaten me with a good time

[merry stirrup]

peak

[pure garnet]

day flop

[devout ridge]

day drinking is great, you can be drunk and hungover all in the same day

[shell void]

meanwhile floppa ran his at like 500W

we have 3090Ti at home

[merry stirrup]

double

550ish+

[shell void]

what was the game clockspeed with that?

[merry stirrup]

because gigabyte can make a competent cooler

[merry stirrup]

gosh idk, let me look at 3dm

[pure garnet]

that was before i got my own ac

so my room got like 80f in the summer and it was ass

now i send 375w into my 5070ti and go

[merry stirrup]

like 2.1ghz it seems

my 3080 didnt have a great core so i just bruteforced score with memory+pl

[shell void]

god shitsung 8nm was so bad

[merry stirrup]

memory did +1600 daily lol

[shell void]

at least nvidia gave GA102 for free

[burnt socket]

thats my room temperature with ac

[merry stirrup]

yes

[pure garnet]

try turning it on

[burnt socket]

it is on ffs

[merry stirrup]

altho iirc maxwell and ampere are some of the most efficient nv gens clock for clock so take that as you will

[pure garnet]

i keep my room at like 68f-71f depending on the day

at night i’ll let it run down to like 64 bc that’s peak sleep

[merry stirrup]

u right

[burnt socket]

i cant keep googling conversion units

[merry stirrup]

1 or 2 celcius final offer

[final cedar]

Hello everyone

[pure garnet]

so do (x*(9/5))+32

[burnt socket]

not doing maths at this fucking hour

[pure garnet]

skill issue then

[merry stirrup]

this guys computer has battery life

[pure garnet]

common european L

can’t think critically past 10pm

[merry stirrup]

not enough red 40

[burnt socket]

well i mean i could im just either slow/lazy at it

[merry stirrup]

do you think work would care if i brought my own desk chair

[burnt socket]

34% remaining

[merry stirrup]

when i was there lookin at the ware house my options seemed slim to none if i care about my back

[burnt socket]

what the fuck is my laptop doing

[merry stirrup]

i hope draining even faster 🥀

wack

[burnt socket]

yeah not using battery saver

[merry stirrup]

idk what battery saver is supposed to do other than turn down screen brightness and make the computer more efficient

[pure garnet]

i have a clone of an aeron

[merry stirrup]

that was my previous chair

not an aeron a clone, LOL

[burnt socket]

maybe it prioritises the efficient cores rather than performance cores?

[merry stirrup]

aint no way

its a laptop it should be doing that automatically lol

[burnt socket]

yea i dont buy into that

[merry stirrup]

if anything its clocking it down slightly and just reducing brightness

[pure garnet]

well e cores aren’t really any more power efficient

[merry stirrup]

so yeah seems useless

[turbid locust]

Chat don’t get Pinesol in a paper cut

[pure garnet]

they’re area efficient

[burnt socket]

oh shit

i swear i shut down the computer

[merry stirrup]

also true this cpu in my workloads loves its watts i wont lie

im just holding out for bllc

may just have to buy ryzen

[burnt socket]

the low power efficient cores help

i want windows and microslop to only use two of the lpe cores

[merry stirrup]

do you get 4?

[pure garnet]

7800x3d coming your way

[merry stirrup]

it seems smart but sometimes lockiong things to the slower parts of the cpu is actually more power inefficient than just, letting it do its thing

[shell void]

"power saver" power plan in windows will limit clockspeeds on your cores and ringbus etc

it's not worth using

[pure garnet]

yeah 2 minutes of 2w is more draw than 30s of 5w

[shell void]

balanced is optimal

[merry stirrup]

remember watts is only an important metric if time is included

[burnt socket]

well im not doing heavy gaming on intel so i just let it do its own thing

[brisk jolt]

ah yes im looking at gigglebutt mobos and the X870E elite X3D gets nerfed IO compared to the standard X870 Elite xD

[merry stirrup]

lmao i dont even get the x3d boards

so useless

[pure garnet]

get a glacial

[turbid locust]

if you don’t have an X3D board your games won’t open

[merry stirrup]

true

[burnt socket]

isnt that just an upgrade of x3d turbo

[merry stirrup]

x3d turbo is a downgrade and useless unless you have a dual ccd chip

so unless they want that insanely specific niche theres gotta be another reason for it existing its still just useless

[turbid locust]

and even then all it does is disable the non vcache CCD

[pure garnet]

i like that x3d gaming mode just disables 75% of a dual ccd cpu

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[pure garnet]

it also shuts off smt

[merry stirrup]

no ht and no 2nd ccd

[turbid locust]

fire

[merry stirrup]

its useless

disabling HT on a ryzen cpu isnt even faster 😭

[turbid locust]

would rather just make sure chipset drivers are installed and game bar is installed

[merry stirrup]

ryzen likes its ht and gets like a 30% score bump on vs off and thats worth it lowk

especially on your shitty 8 core cpus of which do not score high anyways

[brisk jolt]

nah im looking at the pure white boards and the X3D one is so fuckin scuffed for IO in comparison to the X870 and B850 LOL

[merry stirrup]

if you have em pulled up save me da time 🙏

hit me with that io shield photo

[brisk jolt]

X3D vs X870 vs B850

the X3D IO isnt bad by any means but I find it silly

[merry stirrup]

wait uit loses 4 usb lol

3?

oh only 2 but it is weird they decided to give it more buttons and an hdmi port

idk i think boards should forgo on board graphics at all

[shell void]

the art on the chipset heatspreader on the X3D board is so TUFF

[brisk jolt]

gigglebutt deciding their IO: (its all horrendous)

[merry stirrup]

its useful but i can see why my taichi doesnt have any

[burnt socket]

i hate the white-coloured usb ports

[merry stirrup]

because my igpu is still useful even without onboard displayout

[burnt socket]

ik they're usb 2

[merry stirrup]

imma be real i think all USB should be black with clear labeling

[burnt socket]

the white usb just reminds me of usb 1

[merry stirrup]

i dont think ive seriously seen USB1

[burnt socket]

its released in 1996

[merry stirrup]

i know

i was released in 2006

(prison)

[brisk jolt]

hows the gigglebutt bios

[merry stirrup]

was fine when i used it

[brisk jolt]

im pretty between the x870, b850 and the x870-a

[merry stirrup]

snappy and clear options

if you have an asus board in your lineup just buy the asus board no questions

[reef vector]

is the asus b650 prime plus wifi fine for 7800x3d? or what would you guys recommend that isn't too pricey?

[burnt socket]

the context switches too fast for my liking

[merry stirrup]

yes more than fine

[reef vector]

okay thank you

the fellas at ztt wouldn't respond😭

[merry stirrup]

i was saying that im younger than USB in itself and therefore would never have seen USB1

[burnt socket]

@merry stirrup im never going to bed its still 25%

[burnt socket]

yea

unless you stumbled by a windows 98 machine

[merry stirrup]

i mean, probably

but seriously used? nah

i had an ME computer at one point, which was 2 years later, so close enough

[burnt socket]

yeah that is most like using usb 1

[merry stirrup]

maybe probably

idk it was way long ago

i think im going to keep applying for jobs as i work here

[burnt socket]

i may have to sleep at some point

[merry stirrup]

not true

[burnt socket]

😔

[merry stirrup]

(i woke up an hour ago)

[pure garnet]

i need 600 usb ports so i can use 3 of them

[merry stirrup]

unironically my ocf has almost enough type a to get by day to day

and what, it has 4?

my bad it has 5

if it had 6 i would be a happy camper

[pure garnet]

i got a few usb ports on the new board

[brisk jolt]

my mpower barely has enough

[merry stirrup]

bro you dont realise how bad i have it

[brisk jolt]

get 500 cigarettes for urself

[brisk jolt]

thats actually diabolical

[burnt socket]

a modest 10 type as

[merry stirrup]

😭 how is this board better man

[brisk jolt]

LOL

[pure garnet]

because this is deadass a barebones basic b850 but it has a post code and a hot girl

[shell void]

i dont see the problem

[burnt socket]

i still dont understand why 'ultra usb power' exists nor do i find a use for it

[turbid locust]

Mpower has great IO?

[civic reef]

A post code and a what?

[turbid locust]

You mfs have never experienced an HDV

[merry stirrup]

i need legitimately 1 or 2 more

[brisk jolt]

im likely to just get the x870 elite ice tbh

[merry stirrup]

rn i use the monitor as a usb hub

[turbid locust]

I deadass need like 4 usb ports that’s it

[civic reef]

Oh

[brisk jolt]

I only have 1 USB left free and thats the bios flashback one

[merry stirrup]

the S2716DG has a USB 3.0 hub builtin so it works

[merry stirrup]

so real king

[civic reef]

I thought you meant something that had HG as an acronym and said hot girl as a joke

[turbid locust]

wtf are you guys doing to need so much USB

also front panel exists

[brisk jolt]

500 cigarettes

[civic reef]

Not one single USB 20G 💔

[turbid locust]

Deadass think I’m using 3 USB rn

[brisk jolt]

how my case and the mpower is its quite literally blocked off LMAO

[merry stirrup]

mic, keeb, mouse, flashback usb so i dont lose it (unironically), camera, and oh no thats all my type a

[civic reef]

Atleast it has a BIOS Flash Button

[merry stirrup]

if i want to plugin KVM or whatever i lose options quickly

[burnt socket]

i just need 4

[turbid locust]

I have keeb, mouse, and mic, with like 4 slots to spare

[merry stirrup]

i have 5 usb a mac

[burnt socket]

wait no i need 6

[merry stirrup]

i use literally all of them

[burnt socket]

i forgot headset and backup mouse dongles

[civic reef]

Five. Hundred. 5W chargers

[burnt socket]

they're on a hub fitted in the case

[civic reef]

Charging everything I have off of the motherboard USB!!!!!

[pure garnet]

i use 2 usb ports

controller and switch for mouse/keyboard/mic/audio

[civic reef]

I use 3-4 usually

[burnt socket]

including your phone?

[brisk jolt]

kb mouse mic monitor wheel controller dock speaker and thumbdrive

[civic reef]

Yes yes
It goes into the USB 2 port where it gets a blazing 2.5W

[civic reef]

Personally I use USB for my kb, mouse, Headset, and occasionally to run an external drive

[pure garnet]

i hit the 5.0 parlay lfg

[merry stirrup]

LETS GOOO

[civic reef]

Parlay lfg?

[burnt socket]

i might as well plug into the wall for 90 watts

[merry stirrup]

1% more perf over pcie3

[pure garnet]

1.1 crashes the system

[brisk jolt]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cheer-squid-game-celebration-bpTL6wXRuMQpMIVduB

[civic reef]

Wait

[merry stirrup]

wait it drops all the way to 1.1?

[pure garnet]

yeah

[burnt socket]

@merry stirrup unfortunately i will shut down in 30 seconds, laptop has 21% remaining. gn

[civic reef]

Is that PCIe 5.0

[merry stirrup]

thats gotta be an ASPM thing i thought it only went to 3.0?

[civic reef]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-yeah-breaking-bad-jesse-breaking-bad-jesse-pinkman-walter-white-gif-24546693

[shell void]

audio interface (two usb ports)
controller dock (three usb ports)
mouse (four)
keeb (five)
monitor (six)
and then i optionally use up to three more for my quest 2, flash drive(s), and CCDIS3 colorimeter

i also use optical spdif for my speakers

[turbid locust]

Wait the topping takes 2? Wack

[shell void]

you can run it with one but i plug in the optional auxiliary power for peace of mind

[turbid locust]

I see

[burnt socket]

hot take: is hub required?

[merry stirrup]

this+kvm+occasional USB in the front panel

[turbid locust]

I’m gonna buy it soon probably

[merry stirrup]

i dont like having things plugged into my frotn panel because then i have to move my sub

[brisk jolt]

screw the white boards leme go find a x670e-i

[turbid locust]

I have my mouse dongle plugged into my front panel so I can run the cable across my desk to have the receiver infront of my mouse

[civic reef]

Monitor through USB?

[merry stirrup]

charging but you get it

[brisk jolt]

i would have like 2 USB free if I just assigned them to the monitor for charging instead xD

[merry stirrup]

i use my monitor to plug my phone in and whatnot

& my desk has a couple usb's built in

[pure garnet]

your topping doesn't use wall power?

[brisk jolt]

i have a 100w charger with nothing capable except my redmagic of using it max LOL

[merry stirrup]

i use my dell s2716DG as a hub for the computers im using next to my daily

so i only have to plug 1 thing into the 2nd computer im testing (the monitor usb hub cable)

and then everything is arms reach at the monitor

my mic is also hotswappable between extra pc's

[burnt socket]

oh yeah it has to be awake to manage charging, the fans run under charge even after shutting down

[merry stirrup]

2 USB-C's run through the arm and stuff

[merry stirrup]

this is literally just windows keeping it awake lol

turn off fast boot or whatever its called and your laptop wont keep suspending itself to memory

[burnt socket]

also true

[merry stirrup]

i assure you, the BMS does not need windows to manage charging

[brisk jolt]

maybe i should just get a x870i aorus pro for an itx am5 board man

[merry stirrup]

idk itx boards are a scam

[burnt socket]

either way im still mad about the fact I have to bring two bricks and cables

[merry stirrup]

ever since my edge i have not been a fan

[shell void]

no it's not necessary

usb power from the board is fine for this interface

[merry stirrup]

edge is visually impressive and very dense but its density is lowkey the issue

[burnt socket]

they're both 90 watts but both use different voltages to achieve 90 watts

[shell void]

i didnt expect to like the dualmode on this monitor this much

the resolution is absolutely awful, but 480Hz looks and feels incredible

[merry stirrup]

real

[shell void]

i feel much more confident in valorant

[merry stirrup]

you guys flamed me for picking the other skilltree

we just have different gaming styles

[pure garnet]

i got bored of itx the second i had to take my cooler off to swap an nvme

[merry stirrup]

yep

was fed up the second i saw msis double m.2 riser thing

[turbid locust]

I didn’t think 144 to 240 was an impressive jump I just can’t see beyond 240 doing anything for me

[brisk jolt]

360hz to my friends already described as “those tiktok super high fps edits”

[merry stirrup]

144 -> 240 -> 360 is not going to feel good because you went literally every step of the way

[pure garnet]

i have the weird ass panel bin but 240hz and 320hz feels similar enough

[merry stirrup]

but 144-240-360 back to 144 is gonna feel like shit

[brisk jolt]

is gigglebutt deadass the x870i only comes in WHITE

[shell void]

144 -> 240 and 240 -> 480 are both immediately obvious improvements to me on this OLED

[brisk jolt]

WHY

[shell void]

but 240 is smooth enough to cope with, it isnt obviously stuttery like 144

[merry stirrup]

comparing my 360 to my 144 is like running a 60 secondary while using a 144 primary

[pure garnet]

actually i lied i just put my display in 320 mode

it does feel smoother than 240

but 240 doesn't feel bad

[shell void]

i still use the 4k240 mode 99% of the time because the resolution in the dualmode is atrocious

2k480 for valorant is fun though

[burnt socket]

im not exceeding 210 cuz if I feel 480 on a monitor, 120 on laptop suddenly feels like 30hz

[pure garnet]

i only swap for val yeah

and half the time i just play val at 4k bc im not worried about comp

[merry stirrup]

friend left his absolutely burnt to shit geek on my desk and it was almost over for a floppa

[pure garnet]

gpu z takes up like half this monitor res

[shell void]

i bet that burnt coil tasted like straight ycruncher

[merry stirrup]

no dude i put that shit down upon realizing

[burnt socket]

i can't get a hold of 60

[pure garnet]

i use my 60hz mba fine

i don't need 480hz for youtube

[merry stirrup]

they always make fun of me for it but i do NOT tolerate the worse ones that good

[brisk jolt]

dude why did gigglebutt do only an ice version for the x870i this is actually peak ragebait

[merry stirrup]

genuinely almost threw up many times

[shell void]

anything 120+ is copeable for me, but i appreciate having more

[pure garnet]

just get the damn asus bro

[merry stirrup]

i like quality flavored air not left pocket dogshit

[merry stirrup]

yeah this is the best way to put it

[brisk jolt]

im back to itx board.exe

[turbid locust]

I went back to 144 after being on 240 for 4 months zero issue

[shell void]

60 in FPS games feels absolutely awful and it's like looking at a literal slideshow

it gives me a headache after a while

[merry stirrup]

inferior :clueless:

[pure garnet]

90 is the minimum i'll play a first person game in

[turbid locust]

Nice emote

[turbid locust]

120

[merry stirrup]

should buy nitro again shouldnt i

[steel stream]

no

[pure garnet]

nah i would be fine with 90 in like, resident evil or whatever

[burnt socket]

144 minimum

[lethal topaz]

nah just send it to israel bro. straight to the source.

[pure garnet]

there are more first person games then shooters

[steel stream]

we just a simple life man, happy with what we have

[merry stirrup]

true.

[steel stream]

what?......

[pure garnet]

you have bought 5 tvs

[lethal topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-morgan-freeman-true-gif-14543545972329601863

[shell void]

i mean i could go back to 144 again if i had to, it's not a big deal

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690

[lethal topaz]

144 is fine for general media / games imo. even 100 feels fine

[pure garnet]

tc2 suffering from gun and ball syndrome

[shell void]

my monitor history was: 60 -> 144 -> 240 -> 390 -> 144 -> 240/480

[merry stirrup]

you say that but no media is above 60fps and it’s stupid

[civic reef]

Minimum I'd say for all-round use is 100-120

[shell void]

i can cope with 120+ but the jump to 480Hz is very obvious still

[lethal topaz]

but give me a shooter and i want 200+

[pure garnet]

i NEED 360hz for my 24fps movie

[merry stirrup]

when are we going to get common 90+fps youtube videos

[shell void]

when's the RTX VSR 2.0 update with better upscaling and realtime motion interpolation?

[civic reef]

Does YouTube even allow higher than 60 FPS

[steel stream]

real

[pure garnet]

tf happened to steam

[merry stirrup]

how is it that twitch/youtube allows even streaming at these higher frame rates but nobody uploads videos in them

[pure garnet]

steam for ants

[shell void]

man even scrolling on discord is delightful on 480Hz

[steel stream]

what is this? An online video game store for ants?

[shell void]

i will never achieve happiness because we're so far from peak display

[merry stirrup]

even one of my fav tarkov youtubers streams at 90 frames

[civic reef]

I know that reference
But from where?

[steel stream]

give me RGB strip tandem oled with 10K nit peak brightness

[lethal topaz]

peak display will just be nervegear. welcome to sword art online

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/zoolander-zoolander-movie-movie-zoolander-ben-stiller-benstiller-gif-16925885980188759416

[civic reef]

Ah

[steel stream]

blue steel

[pure garnet]

yo we're coming up on the big 7000

[merry stirrup]

i just recently hit 1k hours of playtime for apex on steam

[shell void]

@pure garnet it's time to play the game

[merry stirrup]

thats only the 5th time ive done that with apex

on various platforms

[pure garnet]

do you wanna play a couple

i got like an hour before i gotta go out

[shell void]

yes lock into potato graphics mode and let's bang a couple out

[merry stirrup]

very cool

[civic reef]

Okay question, because it seems like I can only choose one or the other with these budget monitors

Is 10 Bit colour worth going down to 144Hz from an alleged max of 210Hz

[shell void]

no

[merry stirrup]

i have 1 more steam acc with 500 hours & then my origin acc is 1500 hours (literally the same as the steam acc)

& xbox is 2000 hours

[civic reef]

Because this lovely ASUS Fragile (TuF) Monitor doesn't have enough BANDWIDTH ON ITS PORTS

[shell void]

if youre staying in SDR then above 8bit is pointless

run 8bit at the higher refresh rate

[steel stream]

no, you don't need 10 bit for SDR

[civic reef]

It allegedly supports 10 Bit colour through the spec sheet

[pure garnet]

not only did i win the gpu parley vanguard was actually running

[civic reef]

Doesn't say anything about HDR though

[steel stream]

my body supports running 5 miles a day but you don't see me actually doing that

[brisk jolt]

slips on a banana peel and PC turns off

[steel stream]

10 bit is pointless for SDR

[civic reef]

Then why is it supported if it can't use it

[steel stream]

and even if that monitor was HDR capable, I bet it would be a terrible experience

[steel stream]

to pad the specs sheet

[civic reef]

.. Unfortunately, makes sense 💔

[karmic arrow]

wierdest thing ever 😂.

win 11 shows i have a msi mpg z490 edge wifi

when in reality i have gigabyte b650m d3hp

checked hwinfo same thing. updated bios, chipset drivers nothing changed.

should i just ignore it?

[civic reef]

Would using normal 8 bit affect normal SDR colours though

[steel stream]

no

SDR is made for 8 bit

sorry sRGB, the colorspace your monitor most likely supports, is only 8 bit

[civic reef]

So by enabling 10 bit I'd just be dumping extra Gigabits that only serve to limit my refresh rate

[steel stream]

yes

[brisk jolt]

monitor TCS enabled

traction control system galore

[steel stream]

you'd technically be able to run a colorspace outside sRGB, but the chances of your monitor actually being able to display it properly is pretty much 0

[civic reef]

It has DCI-P3 & Adobe-RGB aswell iirc, lemme check

I mean, has those listed

[steel stream]

the chances of your monitor actually being able to properly display those are slim

[civic reef]

Okay just checked, allegedly does 130% of sRGB, and 95% of DCI-P3

Okay, odd
It says brightness (HDR, peak) is 400 cd/m²

[steel stream]

don't use HDR on that

[civic reef]

Yet I don't see anything about HDR in its spec sheet

Oh

I've yet again proven that I am blind and stupid

[steel stream]

sorry, you can run DCI-P3 on it, that'll be a fine experience

[civic reef]

Hey, atleast it's allegedly certified for HDR400

Most of the time these budget displays say either just HDR certified or HDR10

[steel stream]

like i said, I can allegedly run 5 miles right now, but it's not going to be pretty

[civic reef]

Fair

I'll watch a review on it and see what trying to enable HDR looks like

[lethal topaz]

why we recommending against hdr here

[brisk jolt]

if it doesnt do 69420 nits akn doesnt want it

[steel stream]

this monitor is going to be garbage for it

[civic reef]

-Since 10 Bit at 1440p144Hz is already only giving the HBR2 DP 1.4 like 2Gb of leeway left lmao

[lethal topaz]

oh thats not oled is it

[steel stream]

no

[civic reef]

IPS Display

[lethal topaz]

oh god

[steel stream]

it's not OLED or Mini-led

[lethal topaz]

not even VA? garbage

[steel stream]

it already only gets 95% of the DCI-P3 colorspace

[merry stirrup]

ignore it, its probably left over from how you got your computer

[merry stirrup]

VA is gross

in like 99% of scenarios

[lethal topaz]

Better than ips imo

but motion clarity 😔

[merry stirrup]

a cheaper IPS is going to be better than a cheaper VA in most scenarios

[merry stirrup]

yeah exactly this

[lethal topaz]

well i got a pricey VA for free so i was pretty happy with that over my ips'es lmao

now im full oled

[civic reef]

No reviews for this exact monitor

[merry stirrup]

generally toward the top end it separates to where VA is the winner because it can get higher contrast

but thats if the previous motion clarity downsides are addressed on the higher end va

[civic reef]

Aren't VA & TN like the worst of the bunch

[merry stirrup]

otherwise im pickin my 1000:1 contrast ratio and reasonable motion clarity

[lethal topaz]

i got a Alienware AW2723DF for free. sold it to a buddy of mine for 50 bucks when i upgraded

[steel stream]

VA is used mini-led TVs to help with color range, which is fine for content consumption, but I would never use it for gaming

[civic reef]

Does DCI-P3 use standard SDR 8 Bit or 10 Bit

Wait I should've googled that

[steel stream]

8 bit

[merry stirrup]

im on dat 10 bit for absolutely no reason

[civic reef]

Yeah 10 Bit

[merry stirrup]

i use HDR in specific games tho so it makes sense

[civic reef]

Oh huh

[shell void]

sdr is 8bit

[civic reef]

Yeah I know

[civic reef]

Fair

[steel stream]

P3-D65 is a modification of DCI-P3, meant to be used for HDR. It moves back to the 6500K whiteness point, uses 10-Bit, but uses the same color primaries

So you would technically get 95% coverage of P3-D65, but you would have no brightness variation

but a lot of HDR content these days uses the BT2020 colorspace, which your monitor would def struggle with

And once again, a generic IPS display is not going to be able to do local dimming

tldr, HDR is a waste of refresh rate and data on that monitor

[civic reef]

Fair

I assume switching to 8 Bit P3 won't have too many adverse effects on total used bandwidth compared to sRGB?

Since both are within SDR?

[steel stream]

no

8 bit is 8 bit

[civic reef]

Okay yeah great

Thank you

[steel stream]

👍

[hoary hatch]

You think I memorized all the formulas?

[steel stream]

I forgot that Discord isn't a search engine, my b

[karmic arrow]

i fresh installed windows a while back thats why its wierd to me.

i build a pc with same components for my brother and in win 11 settings it shows correct motherboard info.

same bios version, same windows version

used same windows image for windows install. and same bips update file

[merry stirrup]

its not really that deep

could be from a number of random things

[steel stream]

https://videocardz.com/newz/supermicro-confirms-support-for-arc-pro-b70 at least we get to see BMG31 alive in some capacity

[shell void]

just fragged out hard with kyoko

(we lost every match)

[wraith steeple]

Oh god those CPU runs are driving me up a wall

[pure garnet]

then my pc crashed swapping back to 4k

microstar international

[shell void]

sir your cpu tubes are slanted

[wraith steeple]

I'm aware

[steel stream]

@turbid locust how goes your bracket

[wraith steeple]

More Offsets I go

[turbid locust]

uhhhhh

Idk the link is on my work pc in the office LMAO

[steel stream]

true basketball fan

i lost a good bit of points from last night, but Im still leading my group rn

[arctic bronze]

No, 8 bit is 1 byte, duh

[turbid locust]

I’m at 380 points five way tie for 6th in the department group competition

[steel stream]

you guy's arent doing a punishment for losing right

[turbid locust]

no lol

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/drmanhattan-watchman-delete-erase-gif-4932378

[pure garnet]

loser has to use my motherboard

[steel stream]

ok good

[steel stream]

for fantasy football my two punishment ideas are either hop on ozempic, or go to a kid at the mall in line to see santa, and tell them he isn't real

[turbid locust]

The only person in management above me is my boss

So I can talk shit to everyone else

[pure garnet]

nah just shout it to the entire line

ruin like 20 christmases

[steel stream]

it's worse if you single out one kid though

[pure garnet]

i’ll never forget when i found my ps4 at my grandmas house

[steel stream]

I am currently 20 points ahead of you 💪

[pure garnet]

the gig was UP

[turbid locust]

fire

[steel stream]

bracket name is "Jeremy Fears kicks balls"

[turbid locust]

My boss is at the top of our group with 420 points

[steel stream]

I woke up on Christmas eve one night to use the bathroom, saw my parents wrapping gifts, and it was over

[steel stream]

Ok so it's still close

[turbid locust]

Yeah

I literally just did the no upsets preset

I’m above several people that follow college basketball like the bible

[steel stream]

it's a cheat code man

not really but like

You gotta start watching MSU, Coen Carrs dunks are awesome

[wraith steeple]

Yes I have 2 extra 14mm offsets let's goooooo

[steel stream]

🙏

[low sorrel]

I don't believe you

[steel stream]

stalker

[low sorrel]

that game is kinda mid icl

[steel stream]

haven't played

I gotta charge my calc

that's short for calculator btw

[shell void]

artifically fabricated image

[steel stream]

AI

[pure garnet]

this is ai

[steel stream]

I think you just need a couple of more Hz and you'll crush in Valorant

[reef lance]

8 bytes is 1 sandwich

[steel stream]

it taks 8 bytes for a sandwich?

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-broly-dragon-ball-super-broly-anime-fight-dragon-ball-super-gif-25778556

[shell void]

it must because im using a 1KHz mouse and keyboard

[steel stream]

you're lacking man

[reef lance]

Depends on if it is a binary or metric sandwich.

[reef lance]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-neo-mr-smith-keanu-reeves-fight-gif-5195554

[arctic bronze]

Thats cheating!

/ban AtomicAgeAce 10000000

[stone tinsel]

those are cleaner than I'd get done with hardline tubing by-hand. XD

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/yocanigetadmin-gif-19258048

[merry stirrup]

ping kirashi and ask

[steel stream]

@ mod could I get a role that's just titled akn876 thanks, much appreciated

[steel stream]

doesn't even have to be a special color I'll just take the role

[steel stream]

💪

[merry stirrup]

give me permanent floppa role but it mutes me forever

[reef lance]

You already have bread. You need nothing more, my child 🥖

[merry stirrup]

ill take the tradeoff

[civic reef]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-compares-core-ultra-200s-plus-to-ryzen-9600x-and-9700x-gaming-uplift-stays-small

[merry stirrup]

i gotta go right below the mods tho

[steel stream]

I'll take the floppa role, you can have the akn876 role

[merry stirrup]

:true

3$ for classic might be worth it DMANIT

[steel stream]

don't do it man

I view paying for discord in the same way as paying for AI

[merry stirrup]

straight to israel?

[steel stream]

yeah sure

[merry stirrup]

💀 okay

im watching someone test a q6600 rn and i see a ram stick half slotted in and theyre talkin bout some "bios corruption"

yeah sure bro plug the ram in and see if it changes

[reef lance]

No, that would be sensible.

[merry stirrup]

straight faffin bro

i can visibly see the clip not fully clipped

[steel stream]

it's good enuff

[merry stirrup]

it powers on bro its fine

[steel stream]

think imma reinstall windows rn and get off this insider preview

[merry stirrup]

do amd cpus have the same spectre/meltdown vulnerabilities as the older intel cpus? i could prolly pick up hella points on my 4300 that way

we goated

boutta disable that and go from top 10 to top 7 or something who knows

[shell void]

disabling those two protections on X58 makes a huge difference so maybe itll do a lil sum for you

[merry stirrup]

idk if you can disable it the same way tho lowkey so itll be a fafo moment

[wraith steeple]

That's much better

[merry stirrup]

HEATKILLERRRRRR

its hawt

however, throw the amd gpu away

look at this from da warehouse a lil lightning card

[steel stream]

slept on method for windows reinstalls is to move your downloads folder to another drive and then just move it back

[steel stream]

take off the peel

[merry stirrup]

id take the whole thing

we do in fact get to take off the peel tho

[steel stream]

Ok i can't think of any important file that would exist outside downloads, documents, photos, or videos

[atomic veldt]

damn that’s a clean build

[merry stirrup]

indoubitably

[civic reef]

I think I am overestimating the degree of incompatibility my GPU has with FSR

I don't remember how exactly, but using FSR (Even on ultra quality) sometimes yielded worse performance than native

[steel stream]

FSR that doesn't end with 4 just isn't worth using

[civic reef]

Probably because I was using an i7 4770

[civic reef]

5700 XT

[steel stream]

yeah so no FSR4

[topaz veldt]

FSR is a former Soviet war crime division

[steel stream]

I believe it

[shell void]

https://tenor.com/view/fsr-gif-22015334

[civic reef]

FSR 3 should be okay enough with a native resolution of 2560x1440

[steel stream]

please see gif above

[merry stirrup]

@edgy laurel is there a way to get rid of the input latency in dayz?

[civic reef]

My eyes are meh, that gif looks crystal clear

[topaz veldt]

Turn off your aim bot

[civic reef]

Oh btw
I tried it in CS2, I didn't really see many issues

[merry stirrup]

im just naturally cracked homie

[civic reef]

Only noticed blur once down to performance / balanced

[shell void]

you could try enabling low latency mode for that game in nvapp or nvcp

[civic reef]

@steel stream

[merry stirrup]

idk i think theres some builtin mouse smoothing you cant turn off or something so im asking him

[civic reef]

Funnily enough the only game that actually got worse performance is Arena Breakout Infinite

[merry stirrup]

cause he play da game

[steel stream]

I personally just wouldn't use FSR at a resolution lower than 4K

[merry stirrup]

how do i force reflex tho

[shell void]

what i said above

[merry stirrup]

yeah where at

oh i found it nvm

[civic reef]

I mean, if I had the money for a 4K monitor, I'd probably afford a better GPU

Yeah I think I'll just use FSR Quality & FG on the card if I ever need to

[steel stream]

FSR is a last resort technology

[civic reef]

What about Lossless Scaling

[steel stream]

still not great

[civic reef]

Wait what
Is it better than FSR??

[shell void]

meh

try out FSR3 and XESS in whatever game youre playing and use whatever looks better to you

or just try to run the game at native res with the built-in TAA because thatll look better than both of them

[fervent chasm]

why is amd so far behind in terms of stuff like that compared to nvidia?

[civic reef]

Honestly no clue

[fervent chasm]

they have good value GPUs, like raw performance theyre well priced

[cosmic gazelle]

I would kind of consider LS image quality to be on par with fs3 because fsr is so awful

but that doesn’t necessarily make LS good

[cosmic gazelle]

except in crimson desert lmao

[brisk jolt]

they focused more on CPUs over GPUs

[cosmic gazelle]

also AMD can just sell every gpu for $50 less and people who only care about frames per dollar will buy their cards

that’s kinda always been their strategy

[steel stream]

because NVIDIA started pushing it much earlier

[civic reef]

... What I am trying to do is use upscaling, why would I run native res AND use Anti Aliasing simultaneously?

[cosmic gazelle]

anti aliasing is not an upscaling related technology big dawg

[steel stream]

DLSS was introduced with 20 series, and intially laughed at, so AMD probably didn't see the need to make their own for a bit

[civic reef]

Which is why I was talking about FSR upscaling & FG beforehand

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah the few games that supported it looked reeeeeal bad

[civic reef]

Micheal suggested native res & TAA, which is odd

[cosmic gazelle]

why

[civic reef]

.. Why what?

[cosmic gazelle]

native is always gonna look better unless it’s DLAA or you’re playing crimson desert

[civic reef]

Same thing with RT
NVidia pushed it since 2018, they've had 8 years to make it great

[civic reef]

The point is performance, mane 💔

[shell void]

because it looks 50x better than FSR3

[civic reef]

I want to try and keep my RX 5700 XT usable for a little longer, so I want to use FSR 3.1 & FG

[reef lance]

Rainbow puke, my beloved

[cosmic gazelle]

i tried fsr3 performance on bl4 to see the difference and holy moly it looks bad

at some point the framerate is not worth it

[civic reef]

Oh god I am NOT going as far down as performance

[wraith steeple]

Gaming is happy indeed

[civic reef]

I'd rather switch to 1080p and run the lowest possible settings

[random flame]

Meanwhile in the synth world, synthesizing gets into stocks:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6jEjvZMDgV0

[cosmic gazelle]

yes but we’re saying dlss 3 performance looks better than fsr quality

[civic reef]

FSR 3.1 performance
God, that's horrible

[reef lance]

Happy? Is that why I play Siege?

[civic reef]

How am I supposed to use DLSS 3 on an RX 5700 XT mane 💔

[reef lance]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-siege-siege-come-over-here-r6-siege-r6-gif-14995377301451814067

[cosmic gazelle]

a 5700 xt is still like, fine, but you’d be better off sticking to 1080p native in any titles that you can get 60fps on

imo at least

fsr frame gen is a massive pile and i dont know that its worth using for anyone but to each their own ig

[civic reef]

I don't play that demanding of titles, mostly war thunder, which does 100 FPS on medium-high 1440p consistently with a machine like mine

[reef lance]

Honestly I just hate frame gen so far in general.

[steel stream]

fresh install moment

[civic reef]

The most demanding thing I'll ask of it is playing BF6 at 1440p

[reef lance]

In the future frame gen might be great, but I'll stick to DLSS/FSR for now.

[steel stream]

tbh 2x FG is pretty good already, just nvidia though

[cosmic gazelle]

i do too but people get offended when i say nvidia fg sucks so ill die on the hill that fsr fg is genuinely unusable

[reef lance]

Fresh install always feels great.

[civic reef]

-Which at ultra quality I think renders at 1080p?

[cosmic gazelle]

games don’t have uq really anymore

[reef lance]

Please tighten up those icons, though. God I hate spaced out icons on the desktop.

[civic reef]

FG has its place, but it's being pushed quite hard

[cosmic gazelle]

have you used fsr frame gen yet?

[civic reef]

It's not completely perfect, and personally the only usable FG setting is 2x FG with DLSS

[cosmic gazelle]

it makes every title i’ve enabled it in fully unplayable

[civic reef]

FSR FG from what I've seen is errr

Just drop the resolution honestly

Run native 720p atp

[cosmic gazelle]

it spikes your input lag to like 100ms

i’m not even joking

[civic reef]

You're kidding me

I knew it was bad but not THAT bad

A full TENTH of a second of latency??

Dude if it was like 10ms sure, 50ms maybe, but 100?????

[cosmic gazelle]

it might not really be 100 but there’s like a noticeable gap between moving your mouse and anything happening

[reef lance]

https://tenor.com/view/nahdog-gif-17900380376959797190

[cosmic gazelle]

it’s very very bad

[civic reef]

Okay yeah that's way too irritating for me to handle

[steel stream]

this is the way

[civic reef]

Yeah I think I'll just stick to lowered settings / FSR UQ / Q

[reef lance]

This is the way/

[civic reef]

Technically fresh install because it's my first time using it

[cosmic gazelle]

did you get your cpu and stuff or what

[civic reef]

Nope

[devout ridge]

i have too much shit on my desktop

[civic reef]

Month old image

Everything is in stock, and I have the money
I am just waiting for the bombings to end

[cosmic gazelle]

are you going 5500 or 5600 or what

[civic reef]

Seeing as the last conflict lasted 66 days, I don't see why this one will last less than 90

[civic reef]

We have no 5500s in the local market anymore

[cosmic gazelle]

not even used?

[civic reef]

Just one lone 5600 for $119

[steel stream]

tsk tsk tsk

[civic reef]

Good luck finding Ryzen 5000 used

[cosmic gazelle]

what about like a 3600xt or something idk

[civic reef]

Want Ryzen? Have a 2600X, 1700, 1500x

[reef lance]

I launch games from game launchers but then use start menu instead of desktop icons now. I like it.

[civic reef]

Nope
Closest is a 3600 in a PC with a shit B450

There are some gems like 3900Xs but those are also in PCs

[cosmic gazelle]

3900x gaming performance is pretty ass

[civic reef]

Odd

[cosmic gazelle]

it’s not like how it is now where the higher core cpus clock higher iirc

[civic reef]

Lemme check

[cosmic gazelle]

oh it is technically but single thread still tests the same as the other cpus

[civic reef]

Base clock of 3.1GHz LMFAO

[cosmic gazelle]

base clock doesn’t really mean anything

[civic reef]

Boost of 4.4

The 3700 non X does 3.6-4.6

[mortal isle]

oh wait mine doesn't look like that, is a new update or something?

[civic reef]

Wait no that's the 3700X

Okay there's only the Pro 3700, same clocks

[reef lance]

Yeah they merged the two. Now you don't have to click the second button. I thought they rolled it out to everyone now but it might be a slow roll still. I know I didn't get 25H2 for a long time.

[cosmic gazelle]

i wouldn’t go zen 2 for anything but a 5, the 7s and 9s are easily replaced by better value chips these days

[mortal isle]

ohh, but the update is working all good?

[reef lance]

What does yours look like? (Make sure to censor your name in the screenshot)

[mortal isle]

because i have it here it says to download it

[civic reef]

Fair

[merry stirrup]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jgmm-monkey-think

[civic reef]

Though I can't find any within that generation lmao

I am just going to get the 5600

Fairly capable CPU, less of an issue at a res like 1440

[mortal isle]

well i am not on my pc right now but is looking like this

[reef lance]

You have the update. You just need to change the category on view there

[mortal isle]

ohh makes sense

[cosmic gazelle]

as an example (yes i know one is ddr5 but the price difference kinda makes up for it)

[reef lance]

If you change it to list then it is just the list of applications. You can also change the recommendations and stuff but that's in the settings menu. I have no recommendations.

[mortal isle]

oh thanks

and btw i don't have these

that things there i don't have them

[topaz veldt]

Forgot that on top of the second 321URX I need to order another Ergotron stand

[reef lance]

They're in the start menu settings.

[civic reef]

Hilarious

[mortal isle]

really? i don't see them

[civic reef]

Also, I can get that 245K (non F) for like $170 new

[mortal isle]

probably is on the latest update beacuse i have a update right now that i need it do install

[cosmic gazelle]

you already have ddr4 or something tho right

have you looked into 12400f’s?

[civic reef]

Nope

Though it's fairly cheap

[cosmic gazelle]

is anyone selling a used 12400f + b660 near you

[civic reef]

$73 for 2X8GB of 3600, $58 for 3200

[mortal isle]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-notebook-gif-20708336

[civic reef]

Only thing being sold is H610s

And a 12400F new is $130

There's no incentive to go LGA 1700

Cheapest CPU is the only win with the 12100F

[mortal isle]

i am so sad i am on a dead platform😔

63$ for a i5 9500

i better buy a ryzen 5 3600 tray

that is brand new

[cosmic gazelle]

this is weird because 12400fs are still the budget king here, bummer

[civic reef]

Used to be $99

14400Fs used to be cheaper than 13400Fs, $120

[cosmic gazelle]

those are ddr5 tho

[civic reef]

They still support DDR4, they're LGA 1700

Eitherway, they're more expensive than Ultra 5s now

[cosmic gazelle]

I just threw together how much an ebay system with a 245kf would cost without a gpu and it’s around $620 with 6000 ram and $580 with 4800 ram

not as expensive as i’d have thought tbh

only 16gb but it’s ddr5

[civic reef]

I was doing the same thing but for the 12400F lmao

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h6XTH3

[civic reef]

Lemme see
B860 boards are fairly cheap, and I can handle using shit RAM temporarily (5600 CL40 and such)

[cosmic gazelle]

learning to ram oc really alleviates a lot of the downside

it’s not gonna make it perfect but it might make it good enough that you hardly notice

[civic reef]

I mean, I can try
Will need lots of trial and error to manually OC over 5600 lmao

.. Atleast I assume, I've never done any sort of RAM OC, even XMP

[cosmic gazelle]

it’s not about speed it’s more about optimizing speed and latency to be the most your specific ram chips can handle

it’s really not super difficult it just takes trial and error

[steel stream]

and time

[cosmic gazelle]

you aren’t gonna kill anything unless you’re dumb and set voltages to numbers they aren’t supposed to be

[cosmic gazelle]

and finding out my board refuses to MCR if i lower trfc and having to manually pull my cmos battery 3 times

[civic reef]

Fair

Mmmm
I could probably OC this 1x16 stick to maaaybe 6000 CL38/36

Given enough CMOS resets

Also AM5 seems cheaper than Ultra lmfao

[cosmic gazelle]

speculation doesn’t really mean anything with ram, different ram chips are highly variable

[civic reef]

I haven't found a single 1851 board cheaper than 180

[civic reef]

It's a Kingston Fury stick.. Should be fairly okay?

[cosmic gazelle]

a stick of crucial a die can’t do above 5400 and a stick of hynix a die can do over 9k on some setups from what i can tell

[merry stirrup]

well over

[civic reef]

Fair

Okay I am checking how much it'll all cost

[cosmic gazelle]

i would not bankrupt yourself over a setup you don’t need given your country’s socioeconomic situation lol the 5600 is probably your best bet

but even there ram oc could be fun to do

[civic reef]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g8Y4Cw

.. Not too much for what I was expecting

I'll most probably just get the 5600 eitherway and use the extra hundred for something else inside the computer

[cosmic gazelle]

don’t buy a motherboard with no vrm heatsink lol

[civic reef]

The manufacturer for the RAM is some company called Hiksemi, so I am not sure if I'll be getting chips from the big Hynix, the big M (Micron), or even Samsung

[civic reef]

It has one, zoom in
Not a great one, but something

[merry stirrup]

those are the only ddr5 manufacturers that realistically exist

so, yes you will

[civic reef]

Oh oops, I chose the wrong thing

[merry stirrup]

if you get chips from nanya or CXMT i will be mind blown

[civic reef]

DDR4

[cosmic gazelle]

are these the new chinese ones

[merry stirrup]

new?

new for DDR5 yeah but theyre not new as companies

at least nanya, i think CXMT is an older company too

[civic reef]

Fixed @cosmic gazelle
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xgJjck

[merry stirrup]

and tbh they have both been around in d5 for a couple years

[civic reef]

Never heard of Nanya

[merry stirrup]

just typically the big 3 make so much memory that you will never see anything but them

[civic reef]

Okay nevermind not fixed

[steel stream]

NANYA BUSINESS!!!!!

[civic reef]

The price is wrong on the 9600X

Supposed to be $203

Okay yeah $440
Little much for what I am getting to be honest

[civic reef]

Hopefully CXMT manages to get a foothold in the global market

That's if they don't get banned or whatever the US government will do

[merry stirrup]

more adie for the masses please

[steel stream]

@turbid locust does Kentucky have this in the bag

[turbid locust]

I’m at a Thai restaurant idk

[steel stream]

40-46 Kentucky-Iowa ST rn

[civic reef]

@cosmic gazelle FYI this is the price of AM4
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V9G7h9

There used to be a 5600x for $88 like I said previously, but gone

Reduced to ashes

Like the $55 5500 and $50 3600

[merry stirrup]

gaming rn

[turbid locust]

UK is a second half team so

[cosmic gazelle]

are we verifying that this 1tb ssd for $50 isn’t a scam

seems sketchy

[steel stream]

well there's 12:48 left in the second rn lol

[civic reef]

I have it listed under already purchased

I have it since before the RAM apocalypse

[civic reef]

Dayz?

[steel stream]

this looks like roblox ngl

[merry stirrup]

engine probably as old as you

[civic reef]

Isn't it based off the ARMA 2 engine

[civic reef]

Also a note
Dahua is seemingly not that bad of a brand, not buying anything from them again though

[cosmic gazelle]

pretty sure standalone is its own thing but idk

[turbid locust]

we turned it around in 3 mins Friday were chillin

[civic reef]

I wish I didn't choose to get something from my Cousin's store to support him and just got a T-Force Delta drive instead

It would've only cost FIVE DOLLARS MORE

[cosmic gazelle]

lmao

[steel stream]

🙏

[cosmic gazelle]

do you have your ram yet

[civic reef]

Idk

[civic reef]

I haven't ordered anything man

I can't
The delivery driver would get bombed

[cosmic gazelle]

if you want to learn ram oc i would try to find something that’s high quality because lower end chips kinda suck to oc

[civic reef]

The store is all the way near Saida, the place is definitely closed

[cosmic gazelle]

you can get lower speed rated sticks that actually will oc faster because of the die they use

[civic reef]

I can sacrifice RAM OCing for a decent price

[low sorrel]

@turbid locust @pure garnet @shell void I think this is the most amount of assists i've seen in one game

[civic reef]

This is the absolute cheapest

The pinnacle of cheap

Used market is iffy

[shell void]

utility god

[low sorrel]

miks pmo icl

[civic reef]

Nevermind??????

Holy shit those are some prices

I'd only be paying $12 more for RAM that won't die on me randomly

There's also a 4800 kit lmfao

[cosmic gazelle]

get the 2x8 3000 vengeance

[civic reef]

I'd be getting JEDEC DDR5 speeds with DDR4 latencies

[cosmic gazelle]

you can’t run 4800 on a 5600

[civic reef]

Oh right
I'd need an APU

Which is non existent for under 250

[civic reef]

I mean, I'd still have the theoretical performance left for the RAM if I ever get a chip capable of 4800

Oh err
Board itself specifies 4666 maximum

Though says plus, does that mean it could proooobably push to 4800?

[cosmic gazelle]

no

[civic reef]

Okay fair

Eh, 4666 is still plenty

1.066GT/s faster than the 3600 I was going to get

[cosmic gazelle]

youd get the best value from oc’ing the 3000 kit because corsair kits generally used decent chips and if you’re lucky you get b die and can push as far as the platform allows

[civic reef]

Sounds good

[cosmic gazelle]

if you run 1:1 fclk which is ideal you apparently usually can’t get past 4000

(disclaimer i am not an expert on this i just read it off a forum)

floppa knows i think

[civic reef]

No idea what fclk is

[civic reef]

I can just watch tutorials or copy other people off the Internet

[cosmic gazelle]

infinity fabric

[civic reef]

No idea what that is either

[reef lance]

God, I don't know about any of you, but I miss Yahoo Answers. Old Yahoo Answers, not after they ruined the website with the UI changes in the mid 2010's.

[civic reef]

Again, I've never done anything related to OC nor have I researched much about it - because I haven't had any real interest beforehand

[cosmic gazelle]

APUs have one chip or die under the heat spreader so fclk is not as much if a limiter. non-apus have several chiplets

[civic reef]

Oh so IF is pretty much like a PCIe lane but for data coming from the memory?

[steel stream]

Infinity Fabric 🥀

[cosmic gazelle]

idk if i would say that

[civic reef]

It's the closest analogy that I understand

[steel stream]

yeah IF is repurposed/modified PCIe

[cosmic gazelle]

oh okay there ya go

[reef lance]

Good luck, it's a fun journey but it's hard and people like to explain things badly. Combine that with the fact that UEFI's suck and love to name things different, give different options, have bad instructions, hide things, along with a bunch of other confusing shit it gets annoying real quickly.

[civic reef]

Yeah makes sense

[civic reef]

I am familiar with bad BIOS', I have a China market MSI B85M board

I'll probably be able to handle myself enough to not fry the RAM with 12Vs

[cosmic gazelle]

so yes basically if you try to go above around 4000 on a chiplet cpu like a 5600 you will be limited by fclk

[civic reef]

Typing in 10.5V instead of 1.05V and getting a rambecue ❤️

[neat falcon]

Mine just measures in millivolts

[civic reef]

Well, 4000 is a pretty good milestone to reach, a full Giggletransfer over the rated speed

[cosmic gazelle]

any normal motherboard has an upper bound to prevent this kind of thing lol

so you’ll be fine

[topaz veldt]

@shell void just for you

[cosmic gazelle]

snail coming in to do a daily money spread

[civic reef]

https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/asrock-officially-confirms-unreleased-amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d2-cpu/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQKNjYyODU2ODM3OQABHqz2YOyPGcT_eceCYWiwuYgiJ18IPBbLt-p-_abRTTl9MxVmIqTPMQp1v1fq_aem_qsZ1P3t8Fy4ID2QoJI4GyQ

Erm

[steel stream]

we know you took this photo, then went right back inside to return it man

[civic reef]

@topaz veldt Don't know how credible OC3D is, but pinging you eitherway

[neat falcon]

Yeah why would you take a photo in the parking lot anyway

[civic reef]

I think you'll like this news

[civic reef]

Oh yeah I guessed so, but the opportunity to say rambecue doesn't come everyday

[merry stirrup]

i have a picture of mac holding an apex in the microcenter parkinglot

[shell void]

oh you’re mailing it to me? thanks man

[civic reef]

Okay yeah, I think I am pretty good to to go @cosmic gazelle

[shell void]

god bless

[steel stream]

it's probably stapled to your wall with a heart on it

[merry stirrup]

yes

[civic reef]

CPU with decent enough fclk limitation, a great board for the price, and good RAM

[cosmic gazelle]

i looked it up and the worst possible die for the 3000 kit can typically do 3600 with pretty low effort

and the best can do way more than your cpu can handle

[merry stirrup]

just get green sticks of a decent ic

rev.e, djr, cjr, whatnot

[cosmic gazelle]

it’s lebanon or whatever

[merry stirrup]

then just get the cheapest anything

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah somebody’s selling 2x8 vengeance for $85 near her

[merry stirrup]

itll oc fine regardless as long as its not sodimms to dimms

[neat falcon]

The green sticks lowk look like they have 2 gb of DDR3 on them

[merry stirrup]

what

[cosmic gazelle]

i still want to use the 8gb b die 2400 green stick i have but i dont have the money for a ddr4 platform rn 💔

[merry stirrup]

h16a greenies in the ocf

[merry stirrup]

what year is it do you know?

[cosmic gazelle]

i have a pic in my camera roll lemme find it

[merry stirrup]

if its late year its like, "fake" bdie

[merry stirrup]

theres the performance bdie and the not performance bdie

not performance is basically cdie rebranded

[cosmic gazelle]

wait sorry

that’s an ebay ss lemme find my pic

[merry stirrup]

okie

[civic reef]

Oh that's great

[civic reef]

So I won't even be losing any speed even with an unlucky die batch

[topaz veldt]

The problem is that Alienware did this 5 months ago, and ASRock pulled the news back

[merry stirrup]

yeah homie youre cooked

[civic reef]

Oh

[topaz veldt]

So we still don't know

[cosmic gazelle]

so it’s just fake b die lol

[cosmic gazelle]

oh well glad i didn’t buy any more of it

[civic reef]

The only thing cheaper is Chinese RAM

[merry stirrup]

its still bdie but i dont reckon its gonna be great

maybe 3600 16-16-16 which is still better than most dimms but

not 4000 14-14-14 or 12-12-12

[cosmic gazelle]

8gb sticks are available on ebay in bulk for $35 so probably why

lemme know if you have any green stick product codes to look for

[merry stirrup]

i paid that much for my 16gb kit of 3400 14-14-14

look for obscure bins of ram like 3400-14-14-14 or 12-12-12 or 3466-14-14-14

usually bdie and usuallu not overpriced for some reason

[cosmic gazelle]

also does a heatsink really lower your temps much or is that kinda not applicable

[merry stirrup]

depends on the heatsink but not really

this realistically isnt bad for 4 sticks of bdie

oh actually thats NOT bdie

[cosmic gazelle]

my ddr5 hits 52c in my lancool 207 during karhu at 32767 so i figured i probably shouldn’t raise it further lol

[merry stirrup]

16-18-18 oops

[civic reef]

Okay saying this before I forget, because I already forgot once

@cosmic gazelle Thank you for the help :>

[cosmic gazelle]

np

[cosmic gazelle]

any idea what this timing would be using? there’s a 16gb kit for like $65

[merry stirrup]

let me see

but like wdym

[merry stirrup]

my bad it was 30$

[shell void]

when can i expect for the MSI MPG321 that you’re shipping me to arrive?

[cosmic gazelle]

like does 3400 16-18-18 have a die that that speed usually corresponds with

[merry stirrup]

not typically because a lot of ic's can do that, but bdie has a range of timings it corresponds with yeah

flat, relatively fast timings usually correspond with bdie, especially tRCD

3200 14-14-14 = bdie

[cosmic gazelle]

if i build a ddr4 system ill probably just use another stick of the crappy b die because ill be building a nas and a nas probably doesnt need 4800mts ram lmao

[merry stirrup]

3600 14-14-14/16-16-16 (and a couple other ratings between) = bdie

3466/3400 16-16-16 or 14-14-14 = bdie

[cosmic gazelle]

gotcha

is 3600 18 probably hynix

[merry stirrup]

yes

[cosmic gazelle]

gotcha

[merry stirrup]

which isnt a bad manu

[topaz veldt]

You paid for ZTT Ground shipping so prob 4-5 months

[cosmic gazelle]

isn’t samsung ddr5 like, mid? wonder how that ended up happening

[merry stirrup]

i dont think ive used samsung, just micron/hynix

[cosmic gazelle]

have you used micron d

[merry stirrup]

idk

look through ram oc images i have for ryzen

[cosmic gazelle]

i’m a little lost on my kit of 1r 16 d die because i managed to do conservative tightening on all of my timings but idk where to go next, my trefi probably shouldn’t go higher and my trfc won’t do MCR if I lower it

[merry stirrup]

idk for DDR4 id try to find some oem rev.e or something

[cosmic gazelle]

but that’s just commentary i don’t actually care that much

6200 is fine for what i do

[strange ginkgo]

is ram still going up?

[cosmic gazelle]

not really but it’s not going down either

[strange ginkgo]

i'm glad i don't need a new PC

[cosmic gazelle]

pcs aren’t really that much more expensive than they used to be if you’re deal savvy

but yes a new ddr5 system with no used parts is gonna suck rn

[strange ginkgo]

when i build my PC (end of 2023) i was going for AM4 because i wanted a lot of ram and ddr5 seemed way too expensive

but the prices back then were nothing

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah ddr5 in the first year or so of adoption was stupid

but now it’s stupider

[strange ginkgo]

today that would be way to expensive

[shell void]

that’s nice i’ll be able to unbox it alongside my optimum tech mouse

[merry stirrup]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/206154286752?
man dr4 is so bad even

70$ for 16GB 3600 L

ooh bdie for 80 bones if you want

[cosmic gazelle]

i’m selling a new kit of g skill 3600 and expecting at least $80 for it

kinda sucks

[merry stirrup]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/127695764707?

[strange ginkgo]

i paid 200€ for my 128gb in 2023

[merry stirrup]

unfortunately thats the best you gon get

[cosmic gazelle]

is 3200 c14 exclusive to b die

[merry stirrup]

its bdie

pretty sure tho yeah