tech-chat-2

[brisk jolt]

gotten im now set for 10k and kyoko is stuck at 8400 for our nvl systems

[shell void]

yall have fun with that im bored of memory tuning

if memory prices come down a bit then id like to get some quad rank cudimms

[pure garnet]

you gotta put up something first

bro stuck in gear 1 ryzen

MY BOARD PICKED PCIE 1.1

you have GOTTA be kidding me 😭😭😭

[brisk jolt]

this is what im currently using

[brisk jolt]

imagine stuck on pcie 1.1

[pure garnet]

3.0 this time

next boots the charm

[brisk jolt]

3.0 is also as bad

[pure garnet]

no 3:0 is considerably better

[brisk jolt]

you need the maximum number aka 5.0

[pure garnet]

1.1 causes the pc to be unusable on the desktop

[brisk jolt]

kyoko try to have a stable system challenge

[pure garnet]

3rd boot was the charm

[pure garnet]

msi respond to ticket challenge

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/fishwood-kevin-magnussen-nico-hulkenberg-haas-f1-team-double-dnf-gif-7340352581217907572

Me vs getting a good bin:
Kyoko vs maintaining a stable system:
5nail vs finding a turd:
Mac vs long term happiness:

[burnt pewter]

Is it normal for the PC to be making a very faint high-pitched buzz when shut down? Disappears when i turn the PSU off. Accidentally heard it when I leaned over the PC.

[cosmic gazelle]

chips vs setting trfc:

[pure garnet]

my system was fine till i bought an msi motherboard

the b650e-f was big chillin alongside the z690-e

[shell void]

im so hype to try the 480Hz mode on my XG32UCWMG when it arrives today

it's going to look like baby-oiled motion in comparison to my current 144Hz monitor

[brisk jolt]

w h a t

[shell void]

480Hz with oldschool Vsync in Valorant is going to look lubricated bro

[brisk jolt]

2025 CNY: dude that monitor looks oversharpened (240hz)
2026 CNY: DUDDDEE that monitor looks like those tiktok valorant edits (360hz)
2027 CNY: Duddeee you bought a rapidfast flashbang for a monitor (Tandem FHD480hz mode)

like watch

[pure garnet]

i should've bought the x870e-h hatsune miku edition

[cosmic gazelle]

AI is kinda funny sometimes

it even replaced the text with unhygienic hermit i didn’t even tell it to do that 😭😭😭

[livid flame]

This looks better than the original

[shell void]

@topaz veldt @edgy laurel i still dont have my optimum tech mouse

oh they just announced a delay LOL

it says that most orders will ship out in may

i ordered this mouse on december 6 2025 that's epic

[pure garnet]

you gave him an interest free loan

[shell void]

pretty much

[pure garnet]

i read online enabling spread spectrum helps with the pcie bug but my pc immediately booted into 1.1 with it on so now i’m trying aspm enabled bios disabled windows

if that don’t work it’s reboot roulette until i get the new board

[civic reef]

What can I do about this assuming it's a break

[cosmic gazelle]

don’t buy it?

[civic reef]

Can you even 3D print plexiglass,,,

[cosmic gazelle]

don’t buy it

[civic reef]

This entire beast for $40

Plus an X99A & i7 5960x

I am buying it

[cosmic gazelle]

then buy it and get a less ancient case for it

[civic reef]

Nuh uh
This case is perfect

Great fan support, very roomy, and lots of bays

[cosmic gazelle]

and a broken panel

[civic reef]

Plastic panel that I can paint over if nothing else works

Or 3D print a normal plastic black replacement of

[cosmic gazelle]

think about it- this case is such a reasonable size and gives you 360mm support, full atx support, and 6 total drive bays

it's so much prettier

[civic reef]

Okay where's the included X99 & i7 ❤️

[cosmic gazelle]

i'm saying get the combo and then buy the case dingaling

(it doesn't matter i just hate building in old cases, do what makes you happy)

[civic reef]

How much is this model

[civic reef]

Why?
They're usually fine

[cosmic gazelle]

uhhhh in the good ol us of a it's $80

[civic reef]

So either unreachable for me or $120

Atp I can buy this

[cosmic gazelle]

as someone who has had to build in an antec 300 many times, building in any modern case is infinitely better

[civic reef]

That looks like a cramped little case from the inside 💔

[cosmic gazelle]

it's the smallest one that still gives you everything you want, and i guarantee you i could finish a build in it faster than in a 2000s era case lol

and i haven't built in either one

i'm being a naysayer here you will be fine if you build in the old one its just a bummer to have to deal with the broken panel

[karmic folio]

Manual breathing

[cosmic gazelle]

matter of fact check that you can actually mount an aio in that thing lol

[civic reef]

Oh it's not a competition
I'd take like 3 hours for full assembly

[cosmic gazelle]

see if a build takes me longer than 90 minutes i start getting irritated

so thats all you gang

[civic reef]

The case released in 2014 it's not THAT old

Full 360mm radiator support uptop

E-ATX board support too

[civic reef]

Well I haven't done any building professionally, and I've only done one full build (technically)

[cosmic gazelle]

does pcpartpicker have any support for outside of the us

[civic reef]

They do but now where I am

[civic reef]

Worst case scenario I paint over the plexiglass panel

Best case scenario I order a 3D printed one

[cosmic gazelle]

okay you're going to travel to saudi arabia and buy this for whatever funny money that costs

[civic reef]

Best of both worlds is 3D printed normal plastic panel

[civic reef]

$94 locally

Just checked on Ayoub Computers

[cosmic gazelle]

that's pretty damn good given how bad the market is over there

the saudi one costs like 250 dollars

[civic reef]

Lol

[civic reef]

Also wow
Only 4x 3.5 bays

Too little for me

[cosmic gazelle]

why do we want more

[civic reef]

RAID 5/6

[cosmic gazelle]

isnt' raid 5 3 drives

[civic reef]

RAID 5 early on then moving onto RAID 6

[civic reef]

Initially 3x2TB but moving onto a 6-8 drive RAID 6 setup

[cosmic gazelle]

bro you do not need raid 6 i've never even heard of that 😭

what do you even intend on using that many drives to accomplish

[civic reef]

I am a silly little person who does silly stuff

Have you seen anyone else use TPM 2.0 modules on X99?

[civic reef]

Storage
Simply

[brisk jolt]

mf thats a 12 year old kid equivalent

[civic reef]

And because I can't find any one 1TB drives with 256MB of cache

[cosmic gazelle]

i've had less than 4tb of storage in my main pc for like 8 years and never filled the entire thing up lol but you do you

[civic reef]

Relatively young
PC cases age better than most other components (depending on which ones specifically)

[cosmic gazelle]

i would argue pc cases age like the worst out of any component bro 😭

[civic reef]

I mean I also have 2x SATA SSDs currently, and that number is going to grow

Either replaced by better SATAs or with SAS

[cosmic gazelle]

the msi case has 2 2.5 slots so you're chillin

does x99 have sas support

[wanton verge]

Hey guys, quick question. I'm torn between two setups and I need your honest opinion.I'll be using the PC for After Effects, Blender, and games like CS2/Fortnite.I'll be using a 1080p monitor with 240Hz.

1. CPU: i7-9700
   ​GPU: RTX 2070 Armor 8GB
   ​RAM: 16GB
   ​Cooling: AIO Liquid Cooling

2. CPU: Ryzen 5 5600
   ​GPU: RX 5700 XT 8GB
   ​RAM: 32GB

​What’s the move here? Is the i7 setup still a beast or is the Ryzen with 32GB RAM a massive difference for AE/Blender?

[civic reef]

I think so, but I'll need a dedicated card

[cosmic gazelle]

i will answer if you promise me you haven't pasted this message in 4 other channels

[civic reef]

The board only has SATA Express for high speed cabled drives

[fervent elm]

is hdr supposed to have like a beige filter or is that windows hdr being the big suck

[wanton verge]

... :((

[cosmic gazelle]

sorry bud don't spam on the internet

[civic reef]

Not in TC1, surprisingly

[cosmic gazelle]

i'm pretty sure (i don't have hdr so @edgy laurel would need to tell you) that non-hdr content should not differ with it on or off

[civic reef]

That beige filter is probably the shit saturation or brightness that your monitor is forcing to give you "HDR"

[civic reef]

Why........

[fervent elm]

ive noticed it with hdr content on my phone too where everything just gets washed out and a beigish color

[civic reef]

ATX Standard is keeping everything in-check

[fervent elm]

maybe?
its an oled but i think its hdr10 only

[cosmic gazelle]

because this is what a build from 10 years ago looked like on a regular basis and this is what one looks like now

holy shit @edgy laurel WHAT IS THIS 😭

how is this natively rendered it looks like 360p 😭

[civic reef]

If the left one has proper airflow and connectivity, it still holds up

[cosmic gazelle]

yes there is absolutely nothing functionally wrong with it

it just looks lame

[civic reef]

Okay that's a fair metric

[cosmic gazelle]

if i can’t post my build on r/battlestation and receive thousands of updoots is life worth living

[edgy laurel]

Should look like this. (Not that it’s great) #gaming message

[topaz veldt]

May rofl. Yeah I cancelled. Its not that exciting.

[civic reef]

Lmfao

[edgy laurel]

Probably could have had an online service print it and transfer over the guts of a mouse manually a few times by now.

[pure garnet]

that’s not nearly as fun

[civic reef]

This is fugly who in their right mind approved it

[steel stream]

i too forget about him, but it's another video from the 🐐 so I will have to watch

[pure garnet]

that case is probably as old as your are

[steel stream]

it's like when you try to remember your dreams

[civic reef]

Reviewed by TechPowerUp in..
.. 2011

[devout ridge]

people born in 2013 are able to use discord…

[steel stream]

something something cruel unrelating march of time something something

[topaz veldt]

march of dimes?

[civic reef]

Covid kids are school kids now 💔

[steel stream]

another word for the money leaving my wallet

[lost mountain]

I refuse to accept this

[steel stream]

why is a roll of solder $25

stupid

[civic reef]

2019 kids are 7 now

Those born in 2020 are 6

[green marsh]

depends on price range. This is 2008

[cosmic gazelle]

can you store the images somewhere that they will come back or do you eternally need to have shitty motherboard software installed

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean that’s just a fish tank

[steel stream]

you should put a shrine to jensen on here

[green marsh]

or this

(internals were meh, but outside look was nice)

what really gave the age away was the port selection /s

LL back then had some nice cases (the front fan mesh is what gives the age really away)

and Silverstone HTPC cases still look the same, maybe even worse 😛

like this is GD08 from like 2012 ?

and current one is

[cosmic gazelle]

the silverstone gd09 is absolutely goated

it’s the smallest form factor case that takes a full atx motherboard

[green marsh]

when PC-A05 was a thing - A05FN was the last version from 2011

it's literally just ATX mobo height + ~2cm at top and 8th slot at bottom, that's it 😄

[brisk jolt]

sff time would like to have a word

[green marsh]

also who remembers PC-V350 ? 😄

some pictures from internet

it had a removable mobo tray

[brisk jolt]

@shell void the matrix clocks higher than the master under the same settings right?

at the max 0.9v clock that ab allows im getting 2775

[civic reef]

Awesome looking case

[turbid locust]

Just saw a listing for 48GB DDR5 and it’s three 16GB sticks LMAO

[steel stream]

ok that's funny af

[shell void]

that's how it has worked for me yes

[steel stream]

whoever posted that is a baller

[pure garnet]

respect

[civic reef]

Lmao

[brisk jolt]

300w 3ghz with the UV is down to 240w xd

[civic reef]

I am like Howard Stark but instead of being limited by the technology of my time I am limited by my job's salary

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/fired-office-michael-scott-the-gif-22021313

[civic reef]

Met my boss a week ago
He doesn't look like the cheap ass he is

[noble ledge]

Space heater 🥰

[civic reef]

Felt bad about insulting him so much

[pure garnet]

is 170w supposed to be a lot

[brisk jolt]

who wants to tell him

[shell void]

as expected 12p is a downgrade from 8p16e unless your application cannot utilize heterogenous CPUs

[cosmic gazelle]

the hell is a pqe

would it be better at gaming compared to the equivalent cpu with e cores?

[shell void]

unlikely

[cosmic gazelle]

why does it exist then

[shell void]

for businesses that have a use case that cannot utilize Ecores

it’s not a consumer cpu

[cosmic gazelle]

what kind of use case would that be

i didn't know there were workloads that couldn't use ecores lol

like, VM's or something?

[noble ledge]

It’s alright for a 40 dollar air cooler

[brisk jolt]

uh
170w is not even close to a space heater

[noble ledge]

170 watts is plenty enough to heat a space

Not a very large one

[brisk jolt]

yeah so like im using 180w to upscale youtube videos

[noble ledge]

Sorry my computer is 6 years old

Finally yeeted this jawn

[brisk jolt]

@shell void i think my best efficiency setup is still 0.9v and disabling CCD1

CCD1 just fucks over 1% lows xd

[noble ledge]

For some reason it came with these extra wires

Didn’t want the clutter so I snipped them

[cosmic gazelle]

damn i forgot how good this case is

66c at 363 watts

[green marsh]

RIP RGB

[noble ledge]

I think it looks dumb and my motherboard doesn’t even have a header for that new standard

[gentle urchin]

Ray Tracing is overrated & nothing consumers will ever use/need

[green marsh]

it's kinda funny watch LLM models struggle hard with some tasks. Right now it took good 20 minutes for the LLM to finally modify the PHP docker container to include the extension it wanted to be installed (via claude code CLI) 😄

[cosmic gazelle]

bro just said this for the love of the game

[pure garnet]

new option on the roulette wheel dropped @civic reef

i also hit the jackpot of 1.1 today

[analog scroll]

My computer is starting to act up and it refuses to load windows a fair bit of the time

apparently the HDD can slowly get corrupted

would defragging my disk fix it?

[cosmic gazelle]

no

[analog scroll]

oh

[cosmic gazelle]

nice one

[analog scroll]

what would fix it then apart from completely reinstalling windows

[cosmic gazelle]

i'd run windows vista personally. much more up to date for modern gaming

[analog scroll]

Eh I want to keep the current install

this is the OEM install that's on the PC

Idunno if vista would run as well on my socket 478 Pentium 4 with 512MB of DDR

[cosmic gazelle]

i kinda figured you were memeing with the xp screenshot ngl

[brisk jolt]

mario kart mystery boxes

[green marsh]

that is literally the hardware they invented this sticker for /s

[pure garnet]

deadass

am i gonna get the banana? 4.0 or the red shell? 1.1

[green marsh]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2008/03/the-vista-capable-debacle-intel-pushes-microsoft-bends/ the explanation for people who didn't live through it

[brisk jolt]

Translation: “i have a 6700xt”

[analog scroll]

It doesn't have that sticker lol (it's the silver one on the very right)

[pure garnet]

LMFAO

[green marsh]

it was one of the things i didn't understand back then, the only issue with Vista for me was UAC being overly strict (but then i was coming back from linux, where you got sudo root prompts all the time). But people were trying to use it on 2000 PCs

[shell void]

i think that guy still uses a FX CPU

[green marsh]

no, i meant that level of hardware was why they invented vista capable

[shell void]

he probably has a HD 7950 or something

[pure garnet]

scrapyward wars season 3 competitor

[brisk jolt]

trash versus garbage

[pure garnet]

selling my limited edition mostly working b850 mlg, $599

[brisk jolt]

the rx 6700xt user versus the 1080ti glazer in the wastelands debating which card is better and agreeing that modern features are trash:

[cosmic gazelle]

since it would appear you aren't trolling your best bet would be to clone the original os onto a fresh drive if you want to keep the original install. unless you think for some reason the os itself has corrupted and the drive isn't the issue

[cosmic gazelle]

$5.99 take it or leave it

[civic reef]

You've never gotten 4.0 till now?

[pure garnet]

nah it's usually just 3.0

or 1.1, now i got 4.0

[brisk jolt]

kyoko try to have a stable system challenge

[civic reef]

Only thing we're missing is 1.0 now

[pure garnet]

you gotta get to 8000 first bro

[brisk jolt]

I already cheated that with my 265K

[analog scroll]

Ahhh

[pure garnet]

arrowlake 8000

[analog scroll]

Thx 👍

[brisk jolt]

I could also cheat again getting the pity bin with the 9850x3d but looking at the ITX mobo options all of them straight up belong in the trash

X870-I is also stupidly expensive

X670E-I is also still overpriced

[cosmic gazelle]

the hell is this little daughter board hanging off

are those where they decided to put the usb 2 headers

[pure garnet]

setsuna cannot imagine

[brisk jolt]

not saying I should but I could consider gigabyte

[cosmic gazelle]

hows it feel to have a lower tcl than me at 1800mts faster

(i have been enlightened that primaries don't really matter i'm just sad)

[pure garnet]

1.65v

[green marsh]

they ran out of space. they did it for few generations now

[cosmic gazelle]

yah i'm pretty sure micron 16d doesn't tolerate higher than 1.45 lmao

[pure garnet]

i wanted 32 but i don't wanna go over 1.65v for daily

[cosmic gazelle]

i just put all my timings back to the original tune i had and left everything at xmp voltages because it's not that deep

and if i can't adjust trfc and i can't really raise trefi any higher it's not gonna do much for games

[green marsh]

it was on X670 too.

[brisk jolt]

nevermind the b850i from gigglebutt is also fucking ass

my hand may be forced to go assrock

[pure garnet]

maybe stop buying itx boards

[green marsh]

and Z690 too

[cosmic gazelle]

what do we mean by this, i don't buy high end motherboards so i have no context

[brisk jolt]

it isnt a problem on intel boards

[brisk jolt]

b850 is not high end

problem is literally all the am5 itx boards are either stupidly overpriced or they just suck

[green marsh]

MSI has a fan

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean i don't actively look for high end versions of any given chipset because the features don't do anything for me

[brisk jolt]

strongest x870i pretty much loses to the weakest z890i in pretty much every aspct

z890i nova also has best itx mem support and is the cheapest

[green marsh]

(and have fun replacing that cmos battery LOL)

[brisk jolt]

pathetic ass IO

unless thats the x870i

[pure garnet]

asrock bios is ass so the nova sucks actually

[cosmic gazelle]

like am5 is a good example of this i feel, the higher end b550 boards are way better than shit tier x570 boards

as someone who bought a shit tier x570 and later regretted it

[brisk jolt]

x670e-i from asus is the best am5 itx board pretty much but its way outta my budget range

[green marsh]

B850

[brisk jolt]

im not spending the same amt on the mobo as the cpu

[brisk jolt]

you can literally draw a country with how much space they left unused

[green marsh]

drop ITX, start using mATX

[brisk jolt]

fuck no

[pure garnet]

so he can buy a gene and fail 8000 on that too?

[buoyant parrot]

I just built a new PC, specs are b650 aorus elite ax, AMD Ryzen 5 8500G, 1650 super, 32GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000, RM850e.

After I was done building it, I went to try to see if it would POST and I turned it all on, but the fans would spin, the RGB would turn on, but it wouldn’t POST. I got my mobo 2 years ago and my CPU 2 days ago, so I am thinking it’s a BIOs issue with the motherboard not being in the right BIOS and I tried to do the Q-Flash plus to update the BIOs, but I don’t know if I did that the correct way.

Is there any way that someone could help?

[cosmic gazelle]

only if you didn't just paste this message into other chats at the same time

[buoyant parrot]

😬😬 caught!

[pure garnet]

make a thread in tech support or lookup a video on how to use qflashplus

[cosmic gazelle]

why does every single person in here looking for tech support just throw their message in every single channel

[pure garnet]

the funny board

[cosmic gazelle]

i didn't even check and i knew he did

[brisk jolt]

9850x3d is the pity bin and Ill prove if I buy one

[pure garnet]

do it then

[cosmic gazelle]

oh hey a cmos reset button. i'd love one of those.

https://tenor.com/view/if-i-had-one-angry-yelling-fairly-odd-parents-mr-turner-gif-16322274

[brisk jolt]

find me a am5 itx board that isnt absolute doodoo and cost as much as the cpu itself

[pure garnet]

just swap it into the mpower

[shell void]

im still very curious about how much this will cost when it's available in a week

itll be so metal if it's $200

[cosmic gazelle]

it's so crazy they're making high end mobos with 2 slots now

[pure garnet]

i forgot all about that board tbh

[cosmic gazelle]

it's so hard to find older chipset mobos with 2 slots that don't absolutely suck

[uneven vigil]

I got a ryzen 5 5600x, and a 6900xt, should I be able to run 4k polling without stutters?

[cosmic gazelle]

bro said 6090

[uneven vigil]

and if not, should I try to overclock my cpu for better performance

[pure garnet]

just turn down the placebo polling if it stutters but it should be fine

[uneven vigil]

it stutters sometimes in val

[fair wraith]

9060xt or 5060ti

[shell void]

5060ti

[green marsh]

the two x1 slots are so sad

[brisk jolt]

so you’re asking me to downgrade just to bin one singular chip

[brisk jolt]

just run 2k

[pure garnet]

all im saying is you've been saying for weeks how this chip is pity guaranteed to hit a speed you haven't

[civic reef]

Can we try for x1 AGP

[pure garnet]

so you should grab one so you're not running 7800mt/s in an mpower

[brisk jolt]

yeah lets ignore the guy who binned 77 and had like all of them hit 8000+

[shell void]

man you cant even hit pcie 5.0

[pure garnet]

i can i just gotta reboot

[shell void]

XD

[brisk jolt]

i hope you get the red shell

[pure garnet]

i've owned 3 am5 cpus and all 3 have done 8000

[shell void]

my monitor delivery got delayed by 3 hours this is quite annoying

[pure garnet]

the 1dpc oc board running 6 layer 4 dimm cope speeds is quite amusing

[brisk jolt]

my 1st was a turd
my 2nd I havent even checked
my 3rd cant hit 8k with its superglue being offbrand holding two CCDs together

[fair wraith]

Genuine question will getting a better gpu help your pc as a whole not be as loud

[shell void]

no

[pure garnet]

you gotta setup a fan curve

your chassis fans are probably going to like 60%+ for no reason

[fair wraith]

Probably

[cosmic gazelle]

getting a better gpu would probably make it louder to be honest

[pure garnet]

if the gpu fans are loud a new gpu with better fans would reduce that but

[uneven vigil]

2k blows tho

[cosmic gazelle]

ya but better gpu dumps more heat into the case making the case fans spin up more lol

[fair wraith]

Know anyone who is good at fan curves?

[cosmic gazelle]

it's a double edged sword

[pure garnet]

people are getting radiant on laptops at 30fps, 4k polling is not doing anything for you

[cosmic gazelle]

you don't have to be good at fan curves lol just make the fans ramp up exponentially when your hotter component between your cpu and gpu goes above like 80c

[pure garnet]

80c 60%
75c 45%
70c 40%
60c 35%
0c 30% is what i run my case fans at

[shell void]

if you have a 480Hz+ monitor then higher polling rate is beneficial for cursor polling consistency, but if you had a 480Hz+ monitor then you probably wouldnt have a R5 5600X

[fair wraith]

How is the sound?

Currently my pc sounds like a decently quiet vacuum

[brisk jolt]

yeah okay you dont even have a monitor above 360hz do you

[shell void]

the 5600X has no overclocking headroom though so don't bother trying that, it won't fix your mouse polling stutters

[cosmic gazelle]

what does your cpu and gpu hit under load lofigirl

[pure garnet]

im more surprised it has mouse polling stutters

[cosmic gazelle]

you can make it much quieter if you have lots of cooling headroom

[uneven vigil]

I cant even get 360fps

[pure garnet]

i think the 6700k tanked high polling last time i tried

[brisk jolt]

then the fuck would you want 4k to stress ur cpu more over 2k for

[uneven vigil]

4k is a noitceable difference

[brisk jolt]

i cant say the same for 4k but 8k absolutely tanked a dude’s 5700x to the ground

[brisk jolt]

are we deadass?

[cosmic gazelle]

i poll at 16k for competitive minecraft bedwars

[uneven vigil]

yeah, its mentioned alot in the voltaic community and aimtraining in general, 1 to 2k, nothing, 4k has a difference

[brisk jolt]

unless you have some bumfuck high dpi its straight cap

[pure garnet]

yeah man i run 32k dpi in game 0.0000000032 sens

[brisk jolt]

what the fuck is voltaic

[fair wraith]

I haven't checked much under load honestly I probably should though to see how it runs

[uneven vigil]

best aimers in world

well its like the biggest aim discord probably

I think I should oc my ryzen 5 5600x

[brisk jolt]

are you the best aimer in the world with godspeed reaction times and can reach the realm where your mouse and screen become part of your body? no

[shell void]

i am

[brisk jolt]

who also arent to say they’re on 540hz monitors therefore 4K is the most optimal over 2K

[uneven vigil]

no one uses 540

[brisk jolt]

the strongest israel soldier known to mankind

I just pulled that outta some reel i watched btw

[shell void]

sleep with one eye open bud

[fair wraith]

What's the software to check temps and how much "load" should I run

[cosmic gazelle]

hwinfo64

[pure garnet]

4k polling rate 540hz player getting tapped by a kid playing with a 125hz dell mouse btw

[brisk jolt]

im sure nobody is using a 125hz mouse in 2026 in valorant unless its like iron and bronze

[cosmic gazelle]

just like, run a game and look at what your cpu package temps are and your gpu temps are

[civic reef]

Their mouse can move before they think to move it and they'll still die because they're ASS

[pure garnet]

you are forgetting that a large chunk of f2p easy to run games are popular in regions with awful computers

[shell void]

crappy players benefit more from better peripherals btw

[uneven vigil]

oh yeah should I get a ryzen 7 5700x3d over my ryzen 5 5600x lmk

[fair wraith]

Holy firehazard

[pure garnet]

losing clockspeed is not helping you with polling rate

just drop it to 2k you'll be fine

[uneven vigil]

could I oc my pc? I REALLY need the 4k

[civic reef]

Used to be CS but that doesn't run on 1.5 decade old hardware anymore 💔

[pure garnet]

nah just play 1.6

[civic reef]

Fair

Wait
L4D2 still has private tournaments

[pure garnet]

see

[uneven vigil]

I barely can get 240 fps in valorant and I have a ryzen 5 5600x 6900xt on all low swettings

[civic reef]

That game ran at 60 FPS on my thermal throttling T470s (i7 7600u, 2c4t HD 620)

[pure garnet]

honestly you gotta just reinstall windows at that point

[brisk jolt]

how is 4k polling noticeable versus 2k at only 240hz

[uneven vigil]

at 1600 dpi it is noticeable

[brisk jolt]

it isnt

[civic reef]

Just play at 75 FPS with a Lenovo IdeaPad gaming mouse

[brisk jolt]

i literally use 1600 dpi 2k polling at 360 and its fine

4K is literally for 480hz and above

I noticed 1K lagging behind at above 200hz

[uneven vigil]

I wanna full wipemy pc ngl

My fps for my components are so shit

[pure garnet]

i just run 1k because i'd rather have more battery life

what if i land on 1.1

[civic reef]

I personally use the lowest (800) / second lowest (1600) DPI setting on my mouse

[brisk jolt]

I afford 2K battery life because im not a shut in unemployed neet on my PC 14 hours a day

[civic reef]

Lowest is on Mint because the movement speed on there is faster by default

Second lowest on Windows 10

[uneven vigil]

Wait, could my 6900xt and ryzen 5 5600x do bad because my settings are low?

[pure garnet]

hold on bro lemme quadruple my power consumption to sit bronze 3 in valorant

[brisk jolt]

land 1.1
vanguard isnt happy
restart
land 4.0 and vanguard isnt happy again
restart
now vanguard was happy till. it saw 1.1 again

[uneven vigil]

Ima fully reset my pc then oc it

[pure garnet]

we got 4.0 + vanguard running

good enough

[uneven vigil]

Ever since I went from nvidia to amd my fps went down hill

[civic reef]

Did you DDU

[uneven vigil]

Nah like I fully switched PCs

[cosmic gazelle]

gpu isn’t gonna be the limiter in val

[uneven vigil]

But I went to better specs and my game just got way worse

[brisk jolt]

I can switch between any 3 of my PCs and all of them will shit on this guy’s best no cap no cap

[uneven vigil]

I went from like a 1080ti and a i3 12100f to a ryzen 5 5600x and a 6900xt and I get worse fps in every game

[languid nimbus]

Guys i have an hp PC, Can I upgrade my i5 7500 to a i7 8700k or an i7 9700k? Is it possible on those motherboards

[cosmic gazelle]

do you have pbo on @uneven vigil

[pure garnet]

no

[languid nimbus]

Shucks, can I upgrade to anything?

[cosmic gazelle]

best option is a 7700

[uneven vigil]

Yeah I’m just resetting the pc rn

[languid nimbus]

Well damn at that rate might as well save up and sell the case PSU and the motherboard + CPU for some new ones

[brisk jolt]

“yeah so we are checking”

it must be the water

[cosmic gazelle]

you probably won’t sell any of those things except the cpu unless you have any non proprietary components in there

[uneven vigil]

Oh nvm I forgot on my old pc I went to a i5 14600k

[hollow radish]

If you've got ddr4 as your ram genuinely going to am4 or Intel 1700 would be perfect if you have the money.

[languid nimbus]

I have a GTX 1660s I'm keeping and 32gb ddr4 ram too so I'm keeping those for sure. And a 3tb hdd

[languid nimbus]

Well my sister has a job. I'm looking for 1 currently as well so for once I might have the money

[cosmic gazelle]

as someone who has two empty dell prebuilts in my side room, they’re basically ewaste

[pure garnet]

why the hell did you go 14600k -> 5600x?

[uneven vigil]

I broke my pc

[brisk jolt]

he might like red

[cosmic gazelle]

how does one “break” his pc

[languid nimbus]

Hammer and saw

[uneven vigil]

People know my story but not my name

[pure garnet]

we're talking about overclocking for polling rate here

[uneven vigil]

Screwdriver incident

[brisk jolt]

you are not relevant enough to remember

[cosmic gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/summit-smash-smash-summit-summit1g-mad-gif-15994846

bro went

[languid nimbus]

Oh well I'll just donate it to charity instead, they can sell it for metal or smtjv

[uneven vigil]

nah lowkey everytime I came back ppl remembered

basically my pc was on a test bench played valorant had a screwdriver near it punched the desk everything shorted

[languid nimbus]

But if I do upgrade, any good CPUs that can handle the 1660S?

[brisk jolt]

i had a friend who trashed his like intel 2nd gen PC because valorant was constantly crashing and discord was eating 50% of his CPU

[cosmic gazelle]

well to be fair the 7500 isn’t gonna get you much either. you could certainly strip the ram and gpu and use the system as a server or something in the future. i’m just saying if your goal is to sell it you’re gonna have a tough time

[heavy mantle]

Austin🥹

[cosmic gazelle]

basically anything can handle the 1660s

[brisk jolt]

the only thing ill remember about u is the fact you probably dont know your stuff

[cosmic gazelle]

you are being tracked by the CIA they have bugs in your walls

[uneven vigil]

I just aim bro 🤷‍♂️

[brisk jolt]

bad memory i bet

[languid nimbus]

Its a good GPU for sure but the CPU Is the real burden tbf

[pure garnet]

i set my computer to the power saving windows profile and the entire system hard locked LMFAO

[civic reef]

Lmao what

[queen lantern]

how would i test that

[pure garnet]

because aspm tried to

[uneven vigil]

I have a x370 killer sli/ac motherboard too it sucks

[wraith steeple]

[queen lantern]

its a mini pc

[civic reef]

That's hilarious

[cosmic gazelle]

if you’re looking for the best value ddr4 platform i’m pretty sure a 12400f and applicable ddr4 motherboard would be the best value, people can correct me if i’m wrong here

[brisk jolt]

hows it looking like with ur system at 8000 still being unstable in other areas

stability debuff hitcha hard didnt it

[uneven vigil]

What could I upgrade to from a x370 killer sli/ac

[civic reef]

Depends on the region
Sometimes the 12400/Fs can be as expensive as $50

[cosmic gazelle]

that’s extremely cheap

[pure garnet]

someone is salty they're stuck at 7800

[brisk jolt]

we have officially lost the plot

[uneven vigil]

If I upgrade my mobo I can upgrade my cpu

[brisk jolt]

its okay, ryzen is cheeks anyway

[languid nimbus]

Thanks I'll keep it in mind. Once I get the money I'll definetly upgrade

[civic reef]

Do you know that board

[pure garnet]

the 265k isn't doing well for mem either

[civic reef]

If so you can buy like a 5600 probably

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodcartier-gif-25860033

[civic reef]

That's the cheapest I'd recommend new

[uneven vigil]

I have a Ryzen 5 5600x already but I need more

[pure garnet]

you must buy 9850x3d for valorant

[civic reef]

Oh right you want high polling rate

[brisk jolt]

limited by mobo and the ram kit I put in

H16A is perfectly fine

[civic reef]

I don't know why you need that sort of tuning

[uneven vigil]

no, overall just more fps too in val, I barely get 240fps at 1080p all low settings

[civic reef]

Then something's wrong with your software / physical hardware if you have a 5600x & 6900 XT

[brisk jolt]

kyoko is like doing 3:0 in memory tuning to me and Im up 3:0 in builds that actually are stable

[civic reef]

Update your drivers

Download OCCT and do tests

[pure garnet]

i mean my other pc is fine

you just gotta stop buying the factory floor special sale chips

[uneven vigil]

It’s always been shit since I bought this pc, I bought it from a IT worker and I never did anything but holy its like genuinely so slow

[pure garnet]

like i stopped buying msi motherboards

[civic reef]

Update your drivers

[brisk jolt]

my first ryzen chip was boxed and it was a turd

[uneven vigil]

Ima fully reset the pc then do that

[civic reef]

Install OCCT and do testing till an error shows

[brisk jolt]

im probaly gonna always get boxed from now on just for collection

[cosmic gazelle]

current platform cost is about $200

[uneven vigil]

okay I’ll keep this in mind after it updates, it was genuinely so frustrating tho because I see vids of pc with same specs and theirs r faster

[brisk jolt]

fine kyoko ill go try sample 2 sometimes when im free

[cosmic gazelle]

@brisk jolt is a 5600x better than a 12400f now i can’t remember

[brisk jolt]

i dont think ill try on the mpower… too lazy to move it from the b650i edge

[brisk jolt]

trades blows iirc but 12400f barely comes up on top

[cosmic gazelle]

ok 12400f still cheaper too

[uneven vigil]

I forgot I upgraded to a i5 14600k like 3 months before I exploded my pc

[cosmic gazelle]

was talking about the other guy’s upgrade path big dawg

[uneven vigil]

Oh okay mb

same situation 😭

What cpu could I go to from a Ryzen 5 5600x in a x370 killer sli/ac ?

[pure garnet]

what do you have installed on your pc

because you're getting like laptop perf at 1080p low so you got something junked up

[brisk jolt]

one 9850x3d bin within the year that they have mcafee/razer synapse or just shit ton of crapware in general installed

[uneven vigil]

Idk I’m resetting it all 😭

wait so I got my entire pc for 600 and my gpu itself is like 400?

[pure garnet]

prolly

or pbo is disabled too

[brisk jolt]

running jedec

it might be clocking 3 ghz at best

[cosmic gazelle]

ltt did that video where they installed every malware they could find and it didn’t even reduce fps by that much

but maybe they were playing gpu intensive games

[uneven vigil]

If let’s say the cpu was seated a little off, would the pc run at all?

[cosmic gazelle]

no

you can’t really seat an am4 cpu a little off

it’s either seated or it isn’t

[uneven vigil]

I mean the guy who I bought it from was in IT and the wiring is lowkey beautiful

[brisk jolt]

to be fair a 5600x/12400f currently in valorant is at best getting 200-300 fps

[uneven vigil]

He did have like a single psu cord into the 6900xt but I fixed that

[pure garnet]

that seems off for 1080p low

[cosmic gazelle]

really? that sounds so low though

[pure garnet]

i was getting like 90-120 on a 1245u

[cosmic gazelle]

i feel like i got like, 500 on minimum on a 5800x that was running at 5 billion degrees c

[uneven vigil]

Worse gpu same cpu

[pure garnet]

staring at a wall is not a benchmark i’d use

[uneven vigil]

Oh my god he’s at a steady 500 I’ve never hit 500 in my life

I wish I had this fps 😭

His entire setup is worse than mine bro

He has worse ram and gpu and same cpu

Does windows 11 affect my pc is that why

[shell void]

windows 11 24h2/25h2 does give you the most fps in games, but it's not a dramatic difference

[uneven vigil]

So he’s on a worse windows, a worse gpu, worse ram, and has 300 fps more than me with the same cpu

Awesome

[pure garnet]

you either have junk on your system or stuff misconfigured in the bios or a mix of both

[uneven vigil]

I’m full cloud resetting it rn

The one issue he did have, he had only 1 gpu cord into the 6900xt, but I fixed that

[cosmic gazelle]

there’s like no way your gpu is the issue here

[languid nimbus]

200 is doable if I find a job that pays like 100/200 per week

[uneven vigil]

Yeah ik, I was on shit ram but I fixed that too

[languid nimbus]

Being a teen is good cause the only thing I worry about with my money is helping my parents out and figuring out what fast food to go to

[cosmic gazelle]

just like before you buy a motherboard please ask someone in here if you’re getting scammed or missing something lol

[uneven vigil]

W flex

the pc doesn’t matter the gamer matters 🥹

[shell void]

is this enough FPS to be competitive?

[uneven vigil]

Maybe I got scammed

What If I’m on a alibaba 6900xt, the pc was 600

[civic reef]

YAY
I GOT PAYED

[uneven vigil]

Me on 240 mog yup

[karmic folio]

Cant you do better

[civic reef]

@pure garnet The only thing separating me from the build now is just time

I have the funds required

[shell void]

yeah probably

[civic reef]

That was the biggest obstacle

[uneven vigil]

I’m scared to touch my pc since the great incident

[civic reef]

HOLY SHIT

https://tenor.com/view/hell-yeah-breaking-bad-jesse-breaking-bad-jesse-pinkman-walter-white-gif-24546693

[pure garnet]

now i just leave the pc on and don't shut it off till the new board arrives fr

[civic reef]

Isn't there a way to do that

[uneven vigil]

Ngl if I still get 200 fps ima part out my pc sell it all and build another

[civic reef]

Maintain current power-on data but imitate power-off

iirc sleep & hibernate don't

[brisk jolt]

its time for you to get a 9850x3d 5.8ghz (PBO +200) 6600/2200 bin king

[languid nimbus]

Dw I will

[uneven vigil]

I’m going to a threadripper

[languid nimbus]

Not my first day here

[brisk jolt]

gets struck by power outage

[uneven vigil]

Wait how much does a threadripper cost?

[shell void]

my cpu is better than most 9850x3d samples but my board doesnt have asynchronous cpu bclk generation so i cant go further than 5425 with PBO

i could definitely run 5625 if i did have it

[brisk jolt]

more than you can afford

[uneven vigil]

I have a well amount of money at 17 with 0 bills

[brisk jolt]

I’d be down to get a 9850x3d if there was an actual itx board that didnt cost as much as the cpu

without being absolute dog

[shell void]

are ITX boards overpriced for singaporean warriors?

most am5 itx boards are $150-250 here

only really new asus ones are more

[uneven vigil]

What’s the fastest cpu out rn?

[shell void]

9850x3d for games

[uneven vigil]

It’s only 700?

[brisk jolt]

most of them are almost double what you see even after tax

[shell void]

brutal

[dim drum]

Does poling rate matter when i buy a mouse?

[uneven vigil]

No and yes , 8k is useless rn tho

No one can really utilize 8k

Most games can’t run 8k

[uneven vigil]

What mouse r u getting?

[shell void]

clean

[quick seal]

no

[uneven vigil]

If you can run 4k without stuttering it’s good

[dim drum]

i curently have a razer cobra but i want to get a new one

[uneven vigil]

I can give you recommendations depending on your grip and your hand size

And budget

[languid nimbus]

Did the b570 ever drop in price or is it still 250

[quick seal]

it aint like you would get any advantage with your mouse refreshing 8x more times per second, just geet a mouse that is comfortable and what you like that would serve you better

[brisk jolt]

the guy who doesnt even have a monitor or fps above 240hz and cant run 4K stable is on some “I can recommend you shit”

[uneven vigil]

I know ALOT about mouses lol, not a lot about PCs

You can’t even tell me what grip endgame gears op1 and xm2s are made for

🥹

[brisk jolt]

You still cant recommend shit like this based off what you said earlier

[dim drum]

Budget is like 50-70 about grip idk like nomal one

[uneven vigil]

No I’m really good with mouses lol

[brisk jolt]

He’s talking about polling rate and not grip?

[uneven vigil]

I take aiming really seriously that’s one of the things Ik, mousepads and mouses

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-hiromi-higuruma-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-jjk-memes-gif-10370496866020481076

[uneven vigil]

He’s trying to buy a new mouse and that depends on grip and hand size

Ftip claw and palm are all rewarded differently based off mouse shape

[brisk jolt]

you literally cant read holy shit

[brisk jolt]

he asked a polling rate question and not directly for fucking grip types yet

https://tenor.com/view/bloodcartier-gif-25860033

[dim drum]

Palm

[uneven vigil]

Dude he said he’s looking to get a new mouse so I’m trying to help him find one 😭

[civic reef]

250 MSRP? That's the B580

[quick seal]

i bought an op1we off OCUK for like 30 quid 1K polling rate and it's really good, I watched some video of the mouse, it just really depends on what you like the feel of.

[brisk jolt]

ur sticking ur nose in the wrong hole buddy its not ur time to shine

[uneven vigil]

He’s looking for a mouse and I’m gonna help him find a mouse 🥹

[uneven vigil]

Op1k is one of the greatest claw grip mouses in the world

The best right now is probably the lycan from g wolves tho

[uneven vigil]

From the US?

[dim drum]

nah europe

[brisk jolt]

yeah so anyway he’s gonna hit you with a budget and all ur knowledge about the high end goes to shit

[uneven vigil]

He said 60$

So I’d recommend a ATK mouse

Atks have the same shape and sensors as the expensive mouse’s

[dim drum]

i cant get those in serbia

[brisk jolt]

gotcha… so we also have STML because i just scrolled up… clearly 60 is 50-70

[dim drum]

i cant find them anywhere

[brisk jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193840159358976/1481915275858415739/0AFC5196-3FC4-4100-B996-41EAF73ECCFD.gif

[uneven vigil]

60 is 50-70?

[languid nimbus]

Back when it dropped the b570 was at around 300 😭

[uneven vigil]

Okay hold on

I’ll find another rq

Have you looked into the scyrox v8? @dim drum

Or the float 88 when it’s in stock

[pallid marsh]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/ebay-seller-gets-scammed-as-customer-returns-usd4-000-rtx-5090-with-missing-gpu-core-and-memory-modules-fully-working-zotac-stripped-of-most-valuable-components-and-sent-back I feel no sympathy for the seller

[uneven vigil]

Would going from a Ryzen 5 5600x to a Ryzen 7 5700x3d be a huge performance increase in games?

[brisk jolt]

yes

[pallid marsh]

That's what I did it was a massive bump

[uneven vigil]

Alright I’ll probably do that tmr

[brisk jolt]

scalper became an ez target for this xd

[uneven vigil]

Wait and it does fit in my mobo right? x370 killer sli/ac

[pure garnet]

4k for a zotac 💀

[brisk jolt]

just update the bios and it’ll be fine

[pallid marsh]

If your mobo bios does it will

[pure garnet]

forgot x370 existed tbh

[brisk jolt]

“pleasure doing business” 💀

[uneven vigil]

I’m getting a free Ryzen 7 5700x3d I’m so lucky

[brisk jolt]

dude is gonna be getting like 400 fps now

[cosmic gazelle]

from who

[uneven vigil]

Stake

300 on red

[pure garnet]

that doesn't make it free

[cosmic gazelle]

it’s like you’re farming animosity being projected towards you

[uneven vigil]

How

I’m serious

[cosmic gazelle]

i don’t doubt that

[young void]

Whats this mean?

[uneven vigil]

Gamble

I gambled and doubled

[young void]

oh it was what I thought lol

[young void]

At least you won

https://tenor.com/view/let-it-ride-south-park-gif-25853218

[dim drum]

Cant find them anywhere should i get this one https://ananas.rs/proizvod/redragon-k1ng-pro-gaming-mis-bezicni-crni/1880815 polling rate

[cosmic gazelle]

tung sahur link

[green marsh]

i can't believe anyone who thinks they do vibe coding. I am trying to migrate an old PHP app to newer frame work, and i literally have to fight the damn thing all the time to have a reasonable output. I can't believe non-coder people actually are making real apps which are more than release and never update things 😄

[hoary hatch]

Experienced developers who are using Claude code to accelerate their work are the real winners

[cosmic gazelle]

yes this is exactly the problem

the only people who can effectively use ai to code are people who already know how to code

because ai is wrong all the damn time

[hoary hatch]

I've heard Claude code is pretty damn good

[green marsh]

even claude models are very stupid

i had it literally try to do class A implements B in Java, where B is also a class (for those who don't know, you can only implement interfaces, not classes - you extend other classes if you want that)

and right now i mean i literally gave it the old app source code & database, wrote it what i want to do, that i want it to use library X... and it now tries to reimplement library X functionality, cause whatever

[cosmic gazelle]

i had claude sonnet 4.6 make me a web app to do a very simple task and it took about 30 prompts to get it to do what i wanted

but it did eventually work

[green marsh]

i mean sure, one can do it. I wanted to make a specific Cordova plugin, it gave me a working code (more or less, with minor tweaks from me) for Android, but it was totally off the mark on iOS. Ironically , i fixed it up with Qwen3.5-35B-A3B on my dual 1080 Ti setup. But both models are more or less equally stupid. Well, maybe Claude might be less stupid in some cases, but then it is also much more expenisive 🙂

[green marsh]

if you haven't seen it - poor top GPU

[cosmic gazelle]

my point was more so that in the 4 hours it took it to sit there and edit its own file, if i knew how to code i could absolutely have produced a better product in the same amount of time lol

[cosmic gazelle]

did you purposely take the blowers off? blower would solve this

[green marsh]

to be fair, i wouldn't have coded what i asked from it in the same time, i mean for AI tools it took only around 1.5 hours to come up with what i needed, and it would have taken me 1-2 days to do the same manually

[cosmic gazelle]

fair enough

[green marsh]

yes, but it's not like crazy hot, that 65-70C at usage. Just funny 🙂

[sharp heart]

air is doing some quantum tunneling through the bottom gpu or ???

[green marsh]

there is few mm of gap, plus the chasis is mesh. In other words it gets air, just a bit hot, which is why it is +20C over the first card

[sharp heart]

😭

[green marsh]

look, it's hardware i would have not used anyway (i had the GPUs in spare computers which were not used). And now they are working for my benefit, allowing me to not pay claude code (the electricity might end up costing same over the month, but it is my private server where no one can snoop at my prompts etc 😄 )

[civic reef]

Yeah because it JUST dropped

I've seen it around 220ish

[uneven vigil]

Okay, I fully reset my pc, what is the first things to do to optimize my pc

I downloaded chipset drivers

[civic reef]

Download GPU drivers

[uneven vigil]

can I Just download adrenalin software?

[granite dirge]

Would you say a Nvidia or AMD GPU is simpler to use, where I use my PC for literally 4 programs treated like games presently other than web browsing

[civic reef]

Adrenalin will let you install new drivers

[civic reef]

Unfortunately all my evidence is anecdotal, so I don't think my opinion is of much value

But, personally, NVidia seems simpler to use

The NVidia App is infinitely more responsive, in both overlay and turning on in the first place

[granite dirge]

Anecdotal?

[civic reef]

As in personal experiences rather than taking an average from multiple persons or reports

[uneven vigil]

alright, I Donwloaded chipset, I downloaded adrenalin and the gpu drivers, now should I oc the cpu and gpu with the adrenalin oc setting, or manually do it?

[civic reef]

Chipset you mean newest BIOS Update?

Oh wait no strike that

[uneven vigil]

Iused the amd install manager and it made me dlwnload something so

[civic reef]

I am thinking of the wrong thing

[granite dirge]

I haven't owned a Nvidia GPU since the 3000 series. And then changed to a 6900xt then 7900xt and am wondering if I can have a better experience with Nvidia GPU since one program has a rendering issue with AMD drivers

[civic reef]

Watch a tutorial on AMD Adrenalin OC

[uneven vigil]

im saying these

[pallid marsh]

Waited too long they are all well over MSRP now

[civic reef]

NVidia drivers are usually more mature, but currently you have to do research for each one

[civic reef]

Okay yeah fair
Automatic OC should be enough for you

[granite dirge]

I mean.. I got. Abig nest egg that iff I wanted to I could buy a 5090 but I don't wanna buy that lol.

[civic reef]

What're you looking to buy

[granite dirge]

I don't know that's why I was asking questions

Second life, WWE 2k26, Skyrim, oblivion and fallout 4 are all I play

At like 4k

120 hz 65 in

And have a 8 core 9000 and CPU with 64gb 6000

And 3 nvme drives

[pure garnet]

generally the nvidia drivers have been better with older titles

[granite dirge]

So what's a logical choice if swapping to Nvidia from a 7900xt

[civic reef]

I think a 5070 / Ti?

[low sorrel]

5090

[pallid marsh]

5070ti is the best value high end card

[granite dirge]

Not sure a 5090 fits in my case

[pallid marsh]

But it's no longer $750

[low sorrel]

That's not that much faster though

[civic reef]

Fair

[granite dirge]

Cooler? Or more power efficient?

[civic reef]

Well errr
5080 then, but that's in the thousands

Like 1.1K USD at its cheapest

[pallid marsh]

$1250 now

[civic reef]

Even worse

Yeah honestly I think Ms Suzi should stick to her 7900 XT

[pure garnet]

5070ti from supermicro is $810 iirc?

that’s the current best deal but i’d try and fix the issue with the 7900xt as well first

[low sorrel]

Idk how much I would trust the warranty of brand that got it's founder arrested for selling GPUs to china

[devout ridge]

you mean microcenter right?

[granite dirge]

My PC has several issues that I just can't figure out how to fix and I get so overwhelmed that I just am trying to love with them

[civic reef]

Switch to Mint

[pure garnet]

no its a pny card sold by supermicro

[devout ridge]

the founder of super micro wasn’t arrested lol

[pure garnet]

https://store.supermicro.com/us_en/supermicro-nvidia-rtx-5070-ti-gddr7-pcie-5-0-graphics-card.html

$819

[shell void]

supermicro out here tryna earn goodwill by selling gpus cheaper

[pure garnet]

i’d take it over $1000

[low sorrel]

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/super-micro-employees-accused-of-smuggling-usd2-5-billion-worth-of-nvidia-hardware-to-china-perps-used-a-hairdryer-to-move-serial-numbers-between-real-hardware-and-thousands-of-dummy-servers

[devout ridge]

Correct, at no point did they arrest the founder lol

they arrested the 3 individuals directly involved with it

[pallid marsh]

https://store.supermicro.com/us_en/supermicro-msi-rtx-5070ti-16gb-shadow-3x-oc-graphics-card.html ffs out of stock $701

[low sorrel]

They arrested the co founder my bad

Liaw is a co-founder of the server firm

[devout ridge]

very different claim

[granite dirge]

This is what prices are for me if I upgraded.

[pallid marsh]

$750 cards for 999 😭

[pure garnet]

are you selling the 7900 xt to offset the cost

[granite dirge]

I dunno

I haven't gotten that far.

I mean it would be sold after the fact. Or traded in.

I dunno yet.

[tepid mason]

why is everyone buying 5070ti

[low sorrel]

@granite dirge

https://www.zotacstore.com/us/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-4080-super-amp-16gb-gddr6x-openbox

[granite dirge]

Cause I don't need a 5090. And I'm annoyed with AMD.

[granite dirge]

Why would I go 4080 if I'm looking at 5070ti?

[low sorrel]

4080 super is a little bit faster

[pure garnet]

because they’re roughly the same card for $100 less

[low sorrel]

Like a little bit

Also 4070ti for 580

https://www.zotacstore.com/us/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-trinity-oc-12gb-open-box

[pure garnet]

okay that one is just worse

[low sorrel]

But it is 300 bucks less

[pallid marsh]

$250+ cheaper vs diy not including windows 😢

[granite dirge]

One is open box one I get 5% off or 6 months no interest. And is new

[pallid marsh]

Because the jump to a 5080 is hardly worth it for $300+ more

[atomic veldt]

ive got an asus tuf 5070ti coming tommorow, it uses a 3x8 pin connecter, but i beleive my psu only has 2x8 pin connectors will i be ok?

[low sorrel]

...

[atomic veldt]

what

[civic reef]

.. The TuF is 1x16pin

[atomic veldt]

it comes with this bro

[low sorrel]

Does 2 ≥ 3?

[civic reef]

Oh 3x8 to 12vhpwr

[pallid marsh]

One man plus one woman can equal 3

[atomic veldt]

yeah sorry

didnt fully know what it was called

[brittle trellis]

What PSU do you have?

[pallid marsh]

So what PSU are you going to get

[atomic veldt]

nzxt 750w

[low sorrel]

There's more then 1

[civic reef]

Exact model

[brittle trellis]

When someone asks the kind of question I asked, they want the model. Not vagueness

[atomic veldt]

NZXT C750 Gold Core - 750W ATX 3.1 Power Supply - 80 PLUS Gold - Cybenetics Platinum - Fully Modular - PCIe 5.1 300W 12V-2x6 - Zero RPM Fan - 105°C Capacitors - Black

[pallid marsh]

What car do you drive ? , a Oldsmobile that makes 160hp

[low sorrel]

I mean if your psu has 2 8 pins like you said then you can't use a card with 3 8 pins

[mortal isle]

Hey guys i have a specific problem, i have a rx 580 4gb nitro+ and i play light games and is staying at 40-50c and when is hitting 45c or even 50c is like very random the gpu is going at 2300rpm from 800rpm and is pretty annoying

[low sorrel]

You have a 12vhpwr cable

[uneven vigil]

IM AT 400 FPS NOW WOOOO!!

[brittle trellis]

It's literally got the power cable you need why would you use the adapter

[mortal isle]

if someone can help me i really appreciate

[pallid marsh]

#1027757333117415424

[mortal isle]

oh you are right, thanks

[low sorrel]

All that does is increase the amount of failure points lol

[atomic veldt]

dudde never mind im blind asf

i thought there was only 2 for some reason

[pallid marsh]

Speaking of failures, when is the next road test

[atomic veldt]

the 3rd one was tucked away

[civic reef]

One second

[mortal isle]

okay untill gonna see my support, what's happening guys all good?

[civic reef]

Wait

That's a 12v2x6 💔

[low sorrel]

Icbc is booked for the next 3 months 💀

[civic reef]

Mate you have the cable you need

[pallid marsh]

Lmao

[atomic veldt]

i know as i just said

i missed it

[atomic veldt]

.

[pallid marsh]

Both of you are blind

[low sorrel]

And I'm supposed to be the legally blind and colorblind one?

[pallid marsh]

How TF are you allowed to drive

[low sorrel]

Contacts

[civic reef]

I am blind and stupid as proven yesterday

[sharp heart]

sending a waterdamaged gpu to repairs hopefully in the upcoming days

what are the chances it will be resurrected

[devout ridge]

if the water already caused damage, near zero

[low sorrel]

50/50 it's either fixed or it isnt

[sharp heart]

now THAT is what i like to hear

a real gambling man

after cleaning (2+ weeks of sitting with the damage, as it was in transit to me), it did boot fine, fans worked fine, detected and all, but code 43 error sometimes and it was impossible to put on drivers

no artifacts or anything like that, no magic smoke

[mortal isle]

fuck

why amd

WHY

[granite dirge]

is there a lltt code for jawa?

[quick seal]

i thought AMD fixed their drivers?

[mortal isle]

no didn't😔

like comeon i did ddu

and you tell me that

amd

like fix your damn drivers but i don't think they gonna do it

because i am on a fucking dead platform rx 580😔

[warm gate]

FUCK YEAHHHH i got a 10/10 for my research paper on the societal and privacy-related impact of AI for comp science

i cooked

[quick seal]

I remember having bull💩 issues when I had an RX580, they might be better on the newer cards

[mortal isle]

amd is so good and cheap but the drivers on older cards are so fucking ass

[tepid mason]

I wanna get a 5070 or a 9070 in the future

[granite dirge]

welp i think i may be buying a 5070ti tomorrow

[mortal isle]

uhh probably the 9070 but if you want ray tracing get the 5070

or dlss

[tepid mason]

Ray tracing🤤🤤🤤🤤

Im boutta take the biggest shit ever holy brb

[granite dirge]

just not sure which one to get, with this system, and that is in stock at micro center in cambridge, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qVJhqd since jawa is offering 350 for my gpu, micro center is offering less than that, and thers allways the fb marketplace route

[quick seal]

eBay?

[granite dirge]

no im buyingg at micro center in cambridge

[quick seal]

i mean selling your old card

[granite dirge]

i wouuld prefer not to have to ship if possisble

[quick seal]

here in the UK selling on marketplace is kinda bad as everyone wants stuff for free

[smoky orbit]

Never had any issue with I’m either my 6750xt nor my 7600 nor the igpu of my 5600gt

[pure garnet]

my vega 56 tripped ocp playing valorant

[mortal isle]

again guys i want to thank amd for there amazing quality drivers they make

[low sorrel]

Why are you playing valorant in the big 26

[pure garnet]

this was back in beta dawg

[quick seal]

i wish i could say that about my experience, also had bull💩 on my 7840hs laptop auto updates and shitting bricks randomly, I actually needed to install and main Ubuntu

[mortal isle]

i found why this happened

i had a older version for better performance beacuse the newest i had problems with it on performance

and windows update fuck you microslop

installed a newer driver for no fucking reason

thanks Microslop

and windows 11

[potent ingot]

i love when amd destroys and corrupts all my drivers

new update fucks everything

[mortal isle]

that's what i am saying right now the newest drivers from amd are so fucking bad

[potent ingot]

i have to factory reset my pc, not even DDU can fix this one

[mortal isle]

sad

[potent ingot]

I didn't even have auto update on, but amd or windows will not care about your preferences

[mortal isle]

yeah like windows just straight up doesn't like you and amd is forcing you for no reason on the latest update

[granite dirge]

well so far im stuck between two graphics cards, to try and buy, im stuck between https://www.microcenter.com/product/693841/zotac-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-solid-sff-overclocked-triple-fan-16gb-gddr7-pcie-50-graphics-card and https://www.microcenter.com/product/692063/msi-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-shadow-3x-overclocked-triple-fan-16gb-gddr7-pcie-50-graphics-cardv
as both are smaller in every dimension than my current gpu.

[hoary hatch]

Never used it myself
Only heard a lifelong perl developer discussing it

[hoary hatch]

Between those two, the zotac would be my recommendation

[granite dirge]

zotac is a good brand?

[hoary hatch]

They're all fine tbh

It's already $200 above the price it should be. No need to pay any more than that

[granite dirge]

i mean i plan on selling my 7900xt for like 400-500 to recoup towardsds the cost

[hoary hatch]

MSI is a bigger brand; If that gives you peace of mind for the slim chance you need to make a warranty claim in the future

[granite dirge]

im a little nervous with the new power connector ill need to use

but hoping everything will be fine

[hoary hatch]

5070ti struggles to draw enough power to cause melting

Not a knock against the 5070ti, it's just fairly reasonable power draw

[tepid mason]

I can mix match ddr4 right

[hoary hatch]

Explosion

[granite dirge]

glad to hear it,

do you think it wll be a three or a two 8pin little squib for it to connect?

[pure garnet]

it’s voltage limited so unless you mod it ~380w is the max it could ever see

[pure garnet]

my adapter was 3

[hoary hatch]

Even then it will sit under 300W most of the time

Well I guess heavy RT might differ

I've actually not used RT

[pure garnet]

in reality yes it’s like 250w-300w (stock limit is 300w)

[granite dirge]

welp ill need to climb and try to find the third cable for the psu then... and try and cram another cable in the pc,

[pure garnet]

you may be able to just buy a native cable for your psu

i know superflower sold me one

[low sorrel]

zotac card looks better

[granite dirge]

whos superflower?

[low sorrel]

EVGAs old OEM

[pure garnet]

i’d get the zotac

the brand of the psu i owned, replace that with whoever you have

[granite dirge]

why do i need to repllace my psu?

[tepid mason]

Mixmatch

[pure garnet]

you don’t?

[granite dirge]

you literally said, to repllaace that with what ever psuu i have

[pure garnet]

as in replace the word “superflower” with the brand of psu you have

you could ask the manufacturer if they have a native 12x6 connector for sale for your unit

[granite dirge]

now a friend is going off on me saying to just stay amd.. cause they dont have the issue im trying to fix with their amd gpu... their cheaper, but im not sure how much better it wowuld be for a 9070xt vs a a5070ti

ugh this is stressing me out so much

[tepid mason]

Cooler installed im gonna test out now

[pallid marsh]

Nvidia has better cooler features and dlss is supported in way more games

[granite dirge]

i literally play, second life, oblivion remaster, fallout 4, fallout 3 when it gets a remaster, and wwe2k26...

[tepid mason]

MORE RAM!!!!!!!!

[pallid marsh]

People made a dlss4 mod for fallout 4

[tepid mason]

I think i need to redo the xmp thing so imma do that rq

It will work with ddr4 3200 ram right

[granite dirge]

ive not modded fallout 4.

[pallid marsh]

I always try to add more music station mods in fallout

[tepid mason]

Alright lets go 32gb ram!!!

[granite dirge]

i dunno which to get when i asked a friend for which to get, they then made a big political rant abaout if i got nvidia... and their saying to get a 9070xt cause they dont have the issue, i am on my 7900xt...

aand now i dont know what to try to get now

[tepid mason]

Yessss

[edgy laurel]

I mean, a 9070xt isn't a massive jump from what you have now, though you do gain FSR4. Nvidia is the play, as always.

(IIRC you're using a 4K TV)

[pallid marsh]

I personally own a 9070xt and regret not spending $150 on a 5070ti just for the dlss support

[granite dirge]

i dont even know what fsr is...

[tepid mason]

Im gonna play some battlefield V now with my 32gb ddr4

[pallid marsh]

Amds Upscaling

[granite dirge]

i dont even know what upscaling is...

or what dlss is

[edgy laurel]

Well, probably something to google. Nvidia's is DLSS. Essential for 4K gaming today.

[pure garnet]

imo if you’re replacing the amd card because of issues i’d get the nvidia card

[edgy laurel]

And why are you buying something else in the first place?

[granite dirge]

i just need this as simple as possible....

[stone tinsel]

I mean, you can add FSR4 support to RDNA 2/RDNA 3 cards... if you don't mind stuffing around with drivers.

[edgy laurel]

Image above shows whats faster than what you have. If its above your 7900xt, its faster.

[granite dirge]

cause i dont know how to fix stuff, so im throwing money at stuff, to fix it instead,

[tepid mason]

Damn everything loads without lagging now

[edgy laurel]

If that problem is performance and you're not just enabling FSR in the game you're unhappy with, you should probably start there. But we'd need to know what your issues are first

[edgy laurel]

Nobody wants to mess with optijank, especially suzi

[pallid marsh]

An extreme example of upscaling, normally the game runs at a lower resolution then it upscales it to your desired resolution like 4k while giving you a performance boost

[edgy laurel]

that image is just going to confuse them

[granite dirge]

firstly i dont think second life has FSR, the issue is related to second life rendering reflections it has been troubleshot to be exclusive to the last several driver and continuing iterations of amd drivers, yet my friend who went on a political rant after saying i was gonna buy an nvidia card to fix it is saying she isnt getting it on her 9070xt,

[granite dirge]

it does

[pure garnet]

you should just ignore their rant tbh

if they have a level headed reason to recommend the other card that’s one thing, but if you’re spending $800-900 get the one that works better for you over the one from the “better” (not true but whatever) company

when you get the 5070ti and install the driver, you won’t have to touch the driver again and you’ll be fine for everything you play

[granite dirge]

i already suffer when anything comes to drivers thats another major pain point im experiencing, cause i cant get the wireless/bluetooth to work for my controller so i had to buy a 16foot cable, but im not working on that issue presently

[edgy laurel]

quick google tells me FSR is supported in Second Life from people talking about it in their forums going back to 2024. If your issue is just reflections, thats not going to help you though

but i'm assuming this is what you're talking about https://community.secondlife.com/forums/topic/529428-amd-drivers-after-2591-break-second-life-is-ll-actively-working-on-a-fix/

[pure garnet]

i think the upscaler is just noise that isn’t affecting her purchasing decision though

[pallid marsh]

I recommend finding a video explaining upscaling it's hard to do so over text

[edgy laurel]

yep, now that we know the problem.

[granite dirge]

that

[stone tinsel]

shrug fair. I'm not noticing problems with reflections in Second Life on my RX 6900XT that can't be attributed to items being old-af.

[tepid mason]

Guys how many more fps would i get with 2 gpus and lossless scaling

[granite dirge]

bassically ill go to a club loaded wwith people, and reflections cause lots of "plastic" atire, and then i get aa weird swirlling pattern on everyones faces

[shell void]

@pure garnet @steel stream it has arrived