#tech-chat-2
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sensors tab, cpu package power
I very much assume it will sell out instantly and/or have shit 265k trade in value
Wait
Is it bothering you at all
pshh arrow lake sell out instantly? XD
not really
the only reason theyre offering it for $300 is because ARL doesnt sell
I really don't want to bother anyone with these
Already got yelled at once I don't want it to happen again
Oh okay, that's good
early RenoDX build has fixed a fuckton
"new" product launch bruh
i have gotten more anguish from microstar international than i have from anything else
RenoDX?
My 285K has been working great a year later
still 90% broken
What has MSI done to you
wow you can actually see
i was like wow that’s washed out as hell then my phone loaded the hdr image
gotta scroll bro
Also Newegg trade in seems like a hassle
That's HDR??
No one knows something until they do
always feel free to ask
Especially easy to cool too
Still washed out for me
I only get to see washed out ig
I ask the dumbest questions, but gotta learn somehow
currently my computer randomly swaps pcie generations and also crashes into reboot on wake from sleep every couple sleeps
Fair
with aspm disabled and gen 5 set
seems pretty simple to me
I think you should probably flash a new BIOS
Even if the same ver
your temps seem fine?
id take a reduced value over selling second hand to not have to deal with a random
#tech-chat-2 message
This was on an air-cooler too
believe me i’ve tried that
That's awesome
i just bought an asus board today so i’ll swap that in once it arrives
I mean like in game it reaches 65°+
Oh my god I have to put it in a box
It's too much

Maybe something within the CPU bugging out? Don't see another issue
yeah. also without RR lighting is basically fucked. especially interiors. Settled (for now) on Performance + RR
yeah that’s a completely reasonable temperature
Those are pretty good temperatures
But not for a noctua nh d15 ?
I think I failed to make my point earlier
When i had a peerless assassin 120 it was like 40°
It's only $300 and likely to go on sale and have shit bundled with it
That's total impulse buy territory
if you want you can set the fans to 100% and if the temps haven’t changed you could remount the cooler with a new paste application
the only reason it would be interesting to me is that you could (if they dont drop the trade-in value) get it for $70
but i see nothing wrong with 65c at 70w
if you wait 6 months just to pay more money while we're on the eve of nova lake then that seems silly to me
without a worthy trade-in it's pointless
I don't trade in/sell PC parts
Tedious business
Yeah at that wattage it's a perfectly acceptable temperature
So many lowballs lol, cant blamem though
yeah im way too impatient and untrusting to sell any pc parts to randoms
i already dont love selling pc parts to friends because i worry about them getting damaged in shipping
Lots of idiots too
Valid ×2
the 5070ti was like a 2 month process
had to file a credit app at michael’s resale llc
I just build 1 to test new tech then cycle
Yes! Never saw it go past mid 80s in Celsius and this is with default settings too
had to use the kristopher escrow service
Medusa prep
I am just aiming to keep most of my tech with me
For backup builds, testing hardware.. The sort
ups had 2 chances to mess up the box and took both
Wait WHAT??
mystery goo and rko cardboard
UPS pulled a Radeon?
Okay getting that score on stock with an air cooler is already impressive
But not even going to 90° C?!
Oh my days that's super awesome
when michael shipped the 5070ti to a mutual friend ups spilled gross goo on the box
when the friend then sent it to me they about destroyed the box
What cooler??
Delightful

thankfully i put the box inside of another box with a bunch of packing foam, and taped the SHIT out of the outside box
the actual card/retail packaging is fine but
i wasnt taking any chances
they were NOT kind to us
Fool me once, mans sais
Also, how do you think a 5820K (worst case scenario CPU) would fare in modern gaming lol
Was it the equivalent of a 6c 4770 or 6c 6700?
Wait no, yeah
4770
it's fine
if you overclock it then itll be close to a R5 5600 in most games
Socket 2011 5000 is equivalent to consumer socket 4000
Oh interesting
replace it with E5-2699 v4 and go ham
Meh, I'd rather not
That by itself will probably be like $30-50 here
my advice is treat ebay for parts or not working as “tried to fix and still broken”
while using like 3x as much power but yeah xD
and not assume it’ll work
FBMP
And here we have lots of geniuses, so
i would still assume the same
It's very possible that it's still working but just needs a touch-up
untested = i know this doesnt work but i want more money than i can get if i list it as broken
lol that job offer was ez claps
if you get a decent cooler you can definitely make this work
x99 boards croak enough there’s a whole market in china for reusing their chipsets
i don’t think i’ve ever had an easier experience
Plus, at worst I can keep them as decor lol
what’s the best cooler you have inexpensive access to
made me troubleshoot a computer. all it needed was a cmos reset 😭
I have options, dw
hell yeah dude
Peerless assassin is cheap, 45
A620 SE just bought for 26.99
Oh easy w then
time to QA and build computers
floppa imma just get a palette for you bro
i ran my 5960x up to 4.7GHz on a peerless assassin and it wasnt even thermal throttling yet
wattage reading was broken in Hwinfo but that shouldve been 300W+
thank you
this is the most optimal solution
That's the CPU I think is in the board
2 weeks time see you then
i want to offload like 3-4 motherboards total
were these better connected to the ihs than the 4790k because my shit throttles at 180 watts on a pa120 delidded
Because the IHS says Core i7 and 3.0GHz
Image was too low quality to see anything else
@turbid locust you too bbg
Jettae was talking shit in tc1 about Intel E cores but built his friend a fx 9590-rtx 3070ti build
I ran my 5800X to 119C with 1.9v
best of each platform to me maybe 2 am5’s
yes 5960x is soldered whereas 4790k used toothpaste, but it's also a giant square CPU whereas 4790K is tiny
more cores, more surface area, and better TIM
yeah that makes sense
Read that as palate at first glance and was like what xD
Laptop i3 e-cores are faster than that FX
z790 mpower, z890 ocf and then the 2 4 dimm msi am5 another probably person
oh yes on your NHD15 with delta fans, i remember that
i hear youre an expert air cooling overclocker
If I am going to OC that chip I am definitely getting an AIO
honestly if you ignore the power draw the 9590 is not that bad
I'll probably need one anyway
I want to keep ambient temps low in the case
mpower sure, ocf sure, 1 msi atx, do you have matx am5?
eh not really worth buying a $100 cooler for a $30 cpu imo
Try to keep the HDDs nice and comfy
Yeah showed a 8 e core 15watt i3 n305 stomping the shit out of a 209watt fx 9590
what the hell is a n305 they just make shit up now
other mpower if you want it
They're like $65 for a 360mm
maybe
As cheap as $45-50 for 240mm
that sounds the most fun lowkey
not all aios are created equal
help
why do you still have that fossil on the right?
Thermalright Aqua Elite is my reference point
Cheap but pretty decent AIO
A 2023 all e core cpu
No one wants it
they got one near me for $270 and the performance is honestly respectable for that price
i’m kinda surprised
I am thinking of throwing all the 8-core models out
for only a few years of i3 generation that’s a sizable improvement
15w vs 210w
what’s the best laptop i3 that is actually purchasable anyways
Are they not all ultra 3s now?
Keks aside sell it for medusa funds
same thing
Ultra 3 205 but it barely exists kinda like the R3 3300X barely existed
oh you said laptop but whatever, arrowlake HX and desktop arrowlake are the same silicon
Oh 4p 4e looks sweet
seems like there hasn’t really been one since 13th gen
there’s the core 3 100u but that chip looks like it’s exactly the same architecturally
Charge your phone
Likes to live on the edge
-Okay those are $68 actually not 65
i just found this in the gif finder and thought it was funny lol
For the V3 that has a non-ugly pump-head
Wait strike that
It's $80 💔
The ugly head V6 is $68
straight freelo
I'm happy they are getting so much hate
easiest experience of my LIFE shit was so easy
saw some cool msi lightning’s, apexes, whatnot
more ddr5 than anyone here has including snail
I am a collector
i saw like 500 brand new kits in box
Autopen signatures smh
Satellite cooler??
$23 is a steal
Wait is a Lebanon store listing things in usd?
Yeah
Is that normal
Yes
Damn y'all are leaving your currency behind
No one uses lbp for anything but in-person transactions usually like supermarkets or such
It's easier to say $10 than 900,000 LBP
I am really interested in whatever it is but I don't need it unfortunately 💔
who has a steam deck
Me
i have 8 of them
one of you want to take a steam key for my game and lmk if it launches / runs?
hows yall spring break
mine was like 3 weeks ago but it was good jorj hbu\
i havent started
i love opening gpu z everytime i boot my pc to see what random generation it selected this time
Is good to pair 5600 with 7800xt for 1080p?
https://videocardz.com/newz/playstation-frame-generation-is-coming-mark-cerny-tells-digital-foundry also PISSER FG
Yes
Has it ever gone to PCIe 1.0
not yet, 2.0 lowest so far
Oh interesting
as long as the board doesn't explode before my x670e-e arrives i really don't care anymore
i'll just reboot the pc until 5.0 comes back
it's like you're gambling!
mlg actually stood for more lame garbage
it's an MSI board right
yeah
friends don't let friends buy MSI
never again i got bit twice in a row
wise words from @hoary hatch
I wouldn't be surprised if you boot it up and somehow see AGP 8x
can't wait to bump this shit while i build the pc and then go insane
Uhh could I ask why?
Usually their boards are meh
I've just heard bad experiences with MSI boards, but anecodtal evidence is anecdotal
Oh... Well ig okay but my MSI laptop still holds up quite great
i’m 2 msi boards into being buggy and broken, 1 was perfectly fine
Im gonna buy a mac to game on
have fun
@turbid locust why is this dude buying you?
Good luck
shout asus for leaving you room to do your homework in their manuals
it's for when they hold you at gunpoint and force you to write I love ASUS over and over again
I dont need luck, i need supported games
if this board works they wont need to hold me
Right
last gen chipset is actually cooler bc now my board is 67
you should have gotten an asrock and let it blow up your cpu
And how many supported games are there?
4 maybe 5
am updating bios and msi locks your cpu fans to 100% during this process
my computer sounds like an air siren because it’s P14 Pros
My laptop Does that too
What would be the best looking exhaust fan in a fractal north
Hell no!
at least you know your board is still alive
idk man it's subjective
I just need some recommendations
The 24v industrial fan that linus used in a video
I quite liked when I had my brown noctuas in mine
Should i buy a mac if i literally only play minecraft and watch youtube?
idk maybe
No x3
I dont want that standard looking build
like a neo? sure
well that's what I did so 🤷
this is so extra
literally sounds like a server room
IT kinda does
Theres an m2 macbook for just 100$ more nearby
Should i go with a gaming laptop instead??
I mean
K12 fan looks OKAY but not beautiful
ASUS are expensive but they're usually pretty reliable from what I've heard
mogged
Like four years ago when I got my gaming laptop the only thing I can do is to say that IT was worth it
This looks basic tho
clean as
Holy tower cooler
that bits propa
which bios?
march 20 (today)
so like I said subjective
People keep telling me that they are overpriced
I paid $150 for it like a year ago and it sits unused now
Also why does everyone put there exhaust fan like all the way up
i fuckin hate that they wipe my bios profiles upon update
i dont know what to believe anymore
takes me like 5 minutes to reinput everything
wtf is improved the anti cheat mechanism
I bought it for 150€ too now its like a 100€
TPM 2.0 
it's what noctua recommends in that case
the case or the cooler? I don't think the G2 sits at $100
No i mean the fan is pushed all the way up
Case
Hmm... They kinda are... But if you find a used one with a good battery you are fine (if the internals are still okay for modern standards)
im not sure i understand what you mean
I let myself buy msi
Although my tomahawk has been great
anyways I upgraded
you must be kinder to yourself my friend
i excitedly await my x670e-e
Where i live gaming laptops(or computer components in general) are really overpriced compared to american pricing but for some reason macs are cheaper which is why i had this dilemma in the first place
wtf does this even MEAN
Im searching for things that are bad on your setup! (I cant find any)
The exhaust fan is pushed all the way up why not down
Could I ask what continent do you live on?
oh I don't think it really matters
ngl thats probably just because the a12x25 comes with the shortest fan cable of all time
I think it means that its so good it handles all the games
Asia
I tried my hardest on it, thanks
Its really good
I cant wait to buy nothing because im broke
I live in the center? Of central Europe
I did move the PC to under the desk for more space
akn is your 5070ti gigglebyte or msi
your gpu has an identity crisis in those photos
Doesn't have 256gb of ram
i have no idea
I mean after I saw yours i-i just want to buy New everithyng
gigglybyte is my 4070, msi is my 5070 ti
I heard European pricing is also terrible lol
What should be the goal
oh so we're gaming trio twins
yuh
Not that bad
mine is still thinking it's an msi
Which one specifically
it's confident and secure in it's indentity
you NEED the 400w vbios it barely makes use of
Only one monitor? What are you a peasant?!
X670EEEEEE
im too lazy to flash it just for like risk of rain 2
it's not really worth it but i just did it bc i was bored
Those speakers look pretty clean
im really insecure about this and will be bathing with a toaster tonight now
those have also since been upgraded lol
What bread will be in the toaster
Aw
They looked nice
rye or sourdough
Mmm sourdough
4 slot monster
I need to replace my desk within a few years
From it exploding?
no update for the mlg so whatever you got is tomahawk specific
two sets of speakers is a bit greedy init?
ill go back to comparing specs and prices now lmao
It's too small and a bit unstable
Ah
the mpower is already lagging behind in microcode updates
Is 3 remotes really needed?
I want to get something larger like my previous desk, that one could take a PC, my 27in, and a Dell Longitude/Latitude simultaneously
yes
Oh yeah your a tv monitor
Oh also guys
Guess what
ive got like 50 bajillion remtoes in my room
Chicken butt
Even though I didn't do any work this month (only did one task today for the entire month) I am getting payed $40
ig try to search for smth with rtx 40-series w/ Intel 12-13th gen/ amd ryzen 7-8th gen
same
atv, tv, bed, ac, dac
Bed?
they've been demoted to the TCL edge lit tv
Granted I genuinely couldn't do anything because both me and the employer were being bombed but still
Yay $40
yeah i got one of the adjustable frames
Probably a folding bed or such like the ones in hospitals
Nice rooom
my desk is about as big as my bed lol
Where did you hide the tissues? Behind the monitor?
Mine is well...
Should I use that $40 to buy the case & x99a + 2011-3 i7, or should I eat it
The $2*20 looks tasty
Not that big
that'll be our little secret
I just pay
Cable management
honestly I will pay for rtings whenever G6 and C6 reviews are out
Ew zipties
I'm still awaiting Monsieur Vincent's video upload to HDTVTest on the site known as YouTube
i would pay for a month of rtings when i’m seriously committed to a large purchase
but i can’t justify a subscription to read reviews of random shit
it's worth to get around may when all the new tvs are finally out
Any ideas to make it better?
i’ve also realized i’m far less picky than the rtings team is
i quite enjoy my 6/10 tv and frankly at best buy all i really noticed was matte/glossy or oled/lcd
wdym you enjoy smth less than perfection?
is that possible
Anything you can untie
my eyes are medically several units off perfection
What? Just leave the cables just there?
use the force
racism
cable management is a big scam by people who take pictures of their floors
?
@pure garnet Oh guess what
The board has a Multi-BIOS switch
I am counting on the possibility that they accidentally switched to a corrupted BIOS or whatever
That'd be easy to fix both by just the flick of a switch (literally) and by flashing a new bios thanks to the help of the BIOS flashback button on the rear I/O
ok now theyre both 34
Does anyone make a radiator for 2 x 180mm fans
fiat or mini cooper probably
For you @shell void
I've yet to see anything branded with "Aurora" that doesn't look awesome
alienware aurora pcs are pretty fugly
@pure garnet i have concluded that every other setting i had was stable and i cannot set tRFC to anything below auto without my shit complaining
what a sad existence
Alienware are posers
They don't count
@turbid locust we out here
Except their R5-R8 PCs
Imagine buying a Dell/aleinware with proprietary parts
I am glad my newest 9950X3D IMC isn't shit
Newest? How many have you went through?

No one man should have 3 9950X3Ds
how’s it feel having ram that will take a trfc below 884 pal
must be nice
lol wtf dies do you have
micron 16d
oh god

16a is unstable at 5600 and i’m stable at 6200 so it’s not the worst possible ddr5 ic i could’ve gotten lmao
Return them and buy new ones
well i bought these for $180 and they’re $400 so im gonna say
i tightened like every timing that isn’t trfc or primaries and it’s stable so i’m gonna count that as a win and move on lmao
@fringe vigil where we droppin
whoa, didn't mean to reply. musta been from hours ago
wtf is this
also uh
is there a way to filter out any recommendation in my youtube feed with under 100 views
i'm sick of youtube recommending me random shit
dont wanna find niche bangers?
what the ass did I just witness
crimson desert the BR
niche bangers have like, 3k views
lol stop
bro i'm just as confused
game worth it for you so far?
i'm gonna wait for it to go on sale i think
no
ah
another aaa title that got hyped to hell and sucks
the beginning is ass and will turn people away quick but i'm starting to feel there is a lot more to this as you push forward
oooooooh mixed steam reviews
that's bad yikes
oh wait is it a soulslike? i hate souls games
because i suck at them and i'm not a masochist
no, i hate them too
Probably lol
well i'll wait for more developed reviews to come out, and i'll just try out kcd2 instead
i hear it's pretty decent
oh wow 8.7 user score on mc that's really good
How do I know if a board has TPM 2.0 or not
TPM is a function of the CPU on modern systems
Ryzen 2000 / Intel 8th gen+ or something like that
Yeah, but I heard that some CPUs support it, but their boards don't, which means that they're stuck on earlier versions
Unless that's just plain wrong

Fair
unless you specifically care about like, valorant i think? you don't need it
BF6 :3
ah
there's some way to get it to run on haswell i'm not sure the process
haven't tried it
pretty sure yeah
presumably you can, assuming the board has a spot for a compatible one and you don't have a CPU with the functionality built in
looiks like they're $1.19 on aliexpress if you can figure out how to put it in
I doubt Intel 2011-3 CPUs have TPM 2.0
And the board does have a slot, yeah
I've never once seen, touched, or known someone who's had to use an external module for any reason
There's a first for everything
yeah only reason you'd need it is if you couldn't get bf6 or something to run, but like, any cpu that doesn't have tpm 2 already is going to struggle with bf6
Do you know someone who's done RAID in 2026 for a personal non server/NAS build?
pretty sure haswell was like, the first generation to have them
Wait what
Then why is it only 8th gen+ that are recognised for having it
i finished chapter 1 which is basically all just tutorial
I am really confused
yh ive not played it all day
Some say that only Intel 8th gen and newer have TPM 2.0, then some said that it's socket 1151 v1 and newer that did, and now you say Haswell??
this is for firmware TPM 2.0 built into the CPU itself
haswell definitely has a tpm module it's just not like the fully fleshed out one
but you can generally get it to work properly
it looks like if you choose the right board you can just get a $1 module off of aliexpress
my old 2700x had it, as long as I updated the BIOS to support it
So Haswell and forward had support but needed an external module
Then coffee lake & newer had it right in the CPU??
but rghd uploaded a video on the 4790k and played bf6
and he didn't mention a tpm module afaik
Intel PTT, built into the chips
Interesting
I accidentally French reacted you Guilty, sorry 💔
I have it as the quick double-click react emoji idk why
Lemme see
Send me the video if you can, can't find it
i mean 😆
Youtube search is trying to make me look stupid it seems
Yeah I really can't find anything
Everything I see just leads to the constant mention of Haswell only having TPM 1.2, and needing a module for 2.0
The Intel Core i7 4790K was the best CPU available back in 2014 and it had excellent overclocking potential. With the insane prices of DDR4 and DDR5 RAM, I decided to build a DDR3 based system using this once top tier processor, and I'll be keeping an eye on it's gaming performance over the next year or so.
Here's a taste of what it can do with...
Wait, now I am even more confused
@edgy laurel I am now getting results that even getting a 2.0 module won't help, since the board can't recognise 2.0??
Oh RGHD is an acronym
I passed by this video
Red Green Harlequin Dijon
Absolutely no idea. I can't think of a reason why you'd ever want to run a modern AAA title on Haswell Refresh in the first place.
So its just not something I've ever bothered to look into
gotta see cyberpunk 2077 in beautiful 13 fps
It shouldn't run that badly
5960x with atleast a slight OC should be okay
Plus, it's a nice little feature to have :3
you have to heavily OC it for it to not be a turd
it only boosts to like 3GHz allcore out of the box
and you can take that up to 4.3-4.8GHz depending on cooling and silicon lottery
50% overclock :p
why are discord links opening in a new window in chrome instead of a tab in my current window all of a sudden
I can probably manage to run it at 4GHz
Probably a setting that discord lovingly enabled without your knowledge
Not running too shabby it seems
The Intel Core i7 4790K was the best CPU available back in 2014 and it had excellent overclocking potential. With the insane prices of DDR4 and DDR5 RAM, I decided to build a DDR3 based system using this once top tier processor, and I'll be keeping an eye on it's gaming performance over the next year or so.
Here's a taste of what it can do with...
(Set link to immediately take you to BF6)
x99 haswell has 4x the memory bandwidth, and twice as many cores as the 4790K so it's not really comparable in terms of performance
this was back when HEDT was actually affordable and dramatically better than consumer platforms
that being said it is still more than a decade old
That's sort of a trend in most stuff I own
I like this guy for entertainment but I'm not sure if thats something you want to daily today. I think you'll be quite disappointed in the long run.
~12y/o today and only getting older
i gave coins to the beggar in hernand
pet the dogs
It's really just a temporary solution
Like 2 or so years if I had to guess
Oh right yeah
It also gets much faster RAM
At its fastest I can get a whole 2666MT/s
My phone is still used to when I used to write MHz oops
yeh twice as many cores, 2.5x as much cache, 4x as much memory bandwidth
Z890
it performs substantially better than the 4790k in newer games
I am NOT getting 5332MT/s on DDR4 X99 unfortunately
Oh that's cool
lol yeah no i could only get 2666 to work on my 5960x
with my shitty asus x99-a ii board
20MB cache ❤️
but quad channel 2666 is still aight
I am probably just going to run dual channel for the most part
Unless I can find another cheaper-ish 2x8 2666 kit that can do the same CL
Or, well, whatever will run at 2666 with the same CL
The cutscene is a premade video? Very interesting
I.. don't think thats a fully in-engine render if you're seeing 1000+fps
Unless that's just the software bugging

My immediate guess is they just plopped in their 1440p recording of it
twas simply a joke
I shall use only Hardware within the same age range as me
woah i am actually getting like ~160fps on high dlss q @edgy laurel that's pretty damn good for a new release
Thankfully they were raised by tired IT experts and/or left unrotten in server racks or machines, so they shouldn't be that annoying to converse with
Oh that's actually pretty cool
What're you running for the GPU & CPU?
Oh wow
Yeah that's surprising honestly
DLSS 3 or 4?
weird af frametime stuff happening in this game no matter what you do with the settings
eh feels good enough
only reported, i can't feel it
Oh wow
yeah exactly
that low detail field to the left of your character stuck out to me instantly
Genuinely each time you specify something about the configuration I am even more surprised
that game really just does not look good for a hyped up 2026 AAA game
it really doesn't
1440p high, DLSS Q, with a 3080 on DLSS 4
wait is that crimson desert or are we comparing kcd2
this is crimson desert
oh they look the same LMAO
Do you have any information about getting a TPM 2.0 module for this sort of stuff
My board has a 14-1 slot
can't you just, buy one?
i dont, but why do you want one anyway?
5960x isnt officially supported in windows 11
I know, but I've heard lots of conflicting information about compatability and such
what board manufacturer
MSI
you might as well just install iot ent ltsc with secureboot and ftpm disabled
because youre going to have to hack windows 11 onto it anyway
Do I need to get a specific MSI branded 2.0 module or anything that's 14-1
BF6 :3
this specifically says msi and 14 pin
Checking the pin layout
I'll need something like Rufus, yes, but being able to use TPM 2.0 will both let me play the games I want and also have that tiny bit of extra security, even if I may not need it
yeah if you weren't specifically playing bf6 you'd have zero reason to get one
but kinda sounds like there's not a ton of ways around it for bf6
riot only requires TPM for valorant if youre on windows 11 which amuses me
they let you play on w10 without tpm or secure boot
This has 3V standby power on pin 2, MSI manual says the slot is 2.3V
weird considering you can't install w11 without tpm
@shell void @pure garnet Quite cool if I do say so myself
BF6 is kinda my only excuse
macintosh enters into ln2 overclocking
I want to play it, and I'd also like to have TPM 2.0
we been there boss
I may not have a real reason for it, but it's simply what I'd like
the wireview is a cool piece of kit, but i cannot lie brother mac this gui does not impress me
i mean tpm 2.0 has practically zero use for a home, non-work or enterprise pc dawg i'm gonna be real w you
-Will that be detrimental at all btw
Which is why I lack a reason besides the dumbest, most basic of computer applications
this seems like incredibly obscure information so idk
The monitoring is quite cool. Small price to pay for peace of mind.
yeah if i had a transparent sidepanel and my pc on my desk then id want one for sure
mac’s house proceeds to explode the next 2 business days
just because it's cool to look at the actual wireview itself
i was just saying that software looks like roman made it in 5 seconds
laughs in A3
this is inaccurate because it's the weekend, that would imply his house makes it to tuesday
exactly
I am blind it seems
I read this as 2.3V
It's 3V
Okay not blind but stupid
That's the right adjective
I am blind but that's not why I misread it
I am blind and stupid it seems
$150 to insure my $3000 gpu is a no brainer. Plus I can bring it along with future gpus (cause I dont think 12vhpwr is going anywhere).
@shell void Found a compatible module
i know nothing about buying a tpm module brother but i wish you luck
I am going to be running dual channel 2666 with as high of a stable OC as I can on that board
i just didnt use it until i was on AM5 and had ftpm
Without having any OC knowledge I think I can probably do a 4GHz OC
Which is 500MHz over Intel's turbo boost technology
2nd 12vhpwr so you have to buy another-
Lmao
Fair enough
yeah unironically this is how it's going to go when it's 6090 time
Now it's a semi-brainer decision
i expect the AIB models to be dual connector and 800W+ by default
but $150 for a toy to use for a year or two isnt bad
it's a cool piece of kit
Can be used on any 40 or 50 series gpu I end up with in the future at least, and probably 60 series besides 6090
if you sell your 5090 to buy a 6090 then whoever buys it will probably like the wireview as a pairing
Would be cool to see an efficiency bump tho instead of 800W gpus lmao
Perhaps
If they have some sense, NVidia will probably try to limit the power on the card to be exactly 600W so a single connector needs to be used
Or, some models from manufacturers will be specifically made for 600W
Far-fetched, but makes a little sense
they could if they want to, theyd just be leaving a decent bit of performance on the table
i suppose it depends on how they think RDNA5 will perform
Fair
In that case, specific models made exactly for 600W
Well not exactly 600W
Probably something slightly lower so a 1-10W OP wouldn't harm it
If it makes sense, probably factory undervolted with a voltage lock to not exceed 600W??
yeah it could be time for another voltage limit reduction
@shell void I still cant tell if my card itself is funny or the TUF vbios is silly
nvidia lowered the voltage limit to ~1.1v with the GTX 10 series, and it's stayed there ever since
card will do 2637 @ 880-885mv all day
they could lower it to 1.0v or something to keep wattage in check on 60 series even with the power density increase
I have to put 885 to like 2800 to get it to do 2730 and it's not happy
But I could be memeing on the curve idk
Well yeah I'm not i just dont know why its silly
idk funny offset limit behavior that all cards seem to have
i cant set target clock higher than 2737 at 885mv on any vbios, but the matrix vbios hits higher ingame clocks at the same target
the tuf vbios is even less aggressive than the master vbios so it's to be expected that your clocks are a little lower
i dont think it's worth fighting with instability for days over 100MHz
TUF doesnt let me set 885mv to above 2662
Someone ping Jensen
It did let me set 890mv to 2752 tho
When tf is The Witcher 4 meant to come out
Didnt 3 release in like 2013
mac when i went above 3ghz i had the same issues you experience
my 3350 target meant 3277
they have msi
I seem to be at a basically locked 2700 @ 890mv atm
i think that's just how all cards are man, youre not going to get game clock to be 1:1 with target clock unless you have an aggressive vbios and low temperatures
i now own a gigabyte, asus and msi card now as well as the LE B580
when I tab out it goes to 2745 @ 895
700 perfect brackets remaining in the app im using rn
W
im currently winning in my group so thats a w
pls help i just got 2 1440p 180Hz monitors, smooth when one monitor is plugged into the gpu.... choppy when both are in use, AMD 6600 XT. i've done all sorts of messing with my amd disabling things some mpo thing idk im not good with tech stuff this is my last resort
im proud with my +5% performance 40w less cyclone ig
Okay that was heavy
I don't know if this was just a close lightning strike or a bomb
The building audibly vibrated
i’m not touching tuning again until my new board shows up
Man it's 4 AM let your pilots sleep
Finally reaching the 3350 target but MSI decides it's time for PCIe 1.0 ❤️
nah it only breaks on sleep/boot
The spikes to almost 2800 when I tab out scare me a little but
once it picks a gen it stays with it
Yeah that 2790Mhz @ 890mv spike when I tab out scares me for stability.
oh yeah mac i bought an x670e-e
y
msi support useless
Aw
Booooring
Though glad it's atleast stable upon use
mfw ill fart and my 5060ti demands 2955mhz 24/7
Kyoko have a functional computer challenge
Why
5nail try not to get a turd challenge
“Dude wheres all the turds yall talking about?”
What's wrong with 2.79Ghz @ 0.89V
its really just you wont lie
like i can't get a functioning motherboard but every am5 cpu i've owned does 8000
ouch i might need to try my 7600x
Won one lottery and lost the other
Anyway it's goodnight time for me
I've garnered all the information I needed
I am now allowed to rest
8000 what?
8000 cigarettes
@shell void bonus check is 2 weeks delayed, gotta wait to buy the 4k monitor, so sad
im highk convinced it is statistically impossible for the 5nail bins to be turds
Going OLED or mini led?

hopefully there's still a good deal available at that time
Hopefully
companies see it’s from him and give him the best binned items
You won't pull a @low sorrel and run it with a 3060 right?
I’ll be running it with a 4080S
yes
triple monitor setup is gonna be awesome
video on one monitor, vectorworks on one, chrome search for how the fuck do i use vectorworks on the third
outperformed by a single fan card
outperformed by the gb202 at idle
(the core is eating 20w while the vram eats 40w)
not the gb202’s fault it has 96gb of vram attached to it
it breathes and jerry’s 3060 gets blown away
it breathes and jerry’s 3060 feels the disturbance 900 miles away
no matter how far it runs the gb202 at max output will haunt him throughout the galaxy
my beloved GB202
jensen should give me a couple GB202 dies for my collection
i should get a 4th am5 board
You do and we’ll call you 5nail5
its nothing to 5nail
a x670e-i and a 9850x3d sound nice if i can find a combo
I spent three months figuring out how to remove a cylinder from a mini M&Ms tube filled with melted butter and microwaved mashed bananas.
what is even the point of x670e in itx
it has an actual tb4 controller
that's not a horrible way to use the lanes ngl
my sister has a b650e-i and it's a really nice board
or i could get the horrible assrock board again b850i lightning
lol
i should grab a 9850x3d and if it doesnt do 6600/2200 im returning it asap
I have a 9850 for sale
and im not in the US
but i need to check every store i know’s return policy
(i only have 2 stores left to check)
all the others are shitters
bro he said no like 3 messages before
Greetings
hai
Left Karhu running over night but turned off the mini split. Whoops. It's 76-77F in here. DIMMs are toasty. Still running though!
Im thinking of getting a 9850x3d for my velka 3… NVL is abit far out for my patience to sustain
Perhaps Ill get one to cover the ARL to NVL transitioning downtime
My 9850X3D was/is great, I just felt goofy using one in a big ass mobo
What gear 1/2 speeds did it get?
mac’s bin seems pretty standard for a 9850
I only go for Gear 2 since the kit I have spare is H24M
so I did 8000 CL36 or CL38 on it
I see, little wonder that my H24M also struggles to replicate in gear 1
my kit is actually H24M 6000 CL26
but that's uber weird - so I run it at 8000 obviously
hmm icic
still in shock i got job
did you get an offer?
oh wild
i was not lying when i said i had their ceo giggling and kicking their feet
lol
@steel stream i always forget that this guy exists because he posts so infrequently
optimal ram
@shell void What sort of cooling did you need for the 5960x when OC'd to 4.3-4.8 Gigglehertz
i just used a peerless assassin for my 4.7GHz benchmarking
What'd it peak at
oh sorry i only uploaded 4.6GHz scores
but it still wasnt throttling
wattage reading wasnt working, but it should be 300W+ at 1.3v
One second, trying to read these
that was by no means daily stable though, i was just cinebenching for fun
I've never had any OC experience, so 4GHz is what I am aiming to try and do
What could I manage at 150W
xD
2666 jedec on rev.e 😔
crazy, rev.e should do 5ghz
that asus x99 board is buggy asf
which is not surprising
x99 boards are largely terrible especially 12 years later
been thinking bout buying x79
what board u thinkin?
non p9 asus probably
i always loved the aesthetic of the sabertooth
oh my god this guy has color-matched ram, that's incredible https://www.ebay.com/itm/157670944011
oh my that’s sweet
tan-brown corsairs
you see the D3 i ordered?
i did not
XD
&these
that looks so utilitarian and also a bit goofy i love it
apparently the redline dimms are on the best ddr3 pcb
ugh i wish modern dimm heatspreaders were as simple to remove as just unscrewing them
instead of having to soak them and rip glue off
do u have a dual channel platform to play with these?
u mean quad? or just any ddr3 platform
oh are you going to combine the two kits to get 4?
i have a lot of ddr3 and plans to buy a lot more for x79 and haswell
Yeah I'll need to buy that $70 750W unit (Verified C tier)
i just bought haswell to use the kits with and test
you need a coffee lake ddr3 platform for the memes
Or get the A- A650GLS for $80 (definitely not)
z170 d3 boards are so pricey
anyone here run windows vms on linux
got one of these
4690K, stock cooler, Z97X gaming 5, 2 rando sticks of memory
as of now i am on fx
and its craptastic
god i hate fx
my frames are extraordinarily low in my vm i’m tryna see if anyone would know why. using gpu passthru and specific threads from cpu are passed thru, performance drop doesnt make sense with what ive passed thru. maybe msr issue? not sure what to look for
going to tech help now lol js realized this isn’t a question channel
Oh btw
Iceberg Tech got the same power reporting issue on his 5960x, with an ASUS X99
i wanna get some naked cudimms and get some custom design heatspreaders 
but tbf like every cudimm from micron is naked
Except he had it report 30W on Afterburner, and 50W on HWInfo
replaced fans on the r12 guy's 1080ti
annoying little zotac card
doesnt hit 85c in valley at 720p anymore
great success
micron :(
v-color used to sell naked 6400 hynix cudimms for reasonable prices before the ram price boom
i was boutta buy new ram before the boom
Why didn't you sell him into buying a new shiny card
now i’m stuck with intel ram on an amd system
i wanted 48GB and 64GB kits
i cant find vcolor here at all
wtf is intel ram
ram meant for their boosts and not compatible with amd’s
i should NOT have cancelled the 6000CL28 H16A kit that was incompatible with core ultra
big regretz
set the speeds properly and "intel/amd" ram doesnt exist anymore
most/all amd boards can read XMP profiles atp
yeah but i’m not doing all that i don’t over clock or mess with speeds for my hardware really
guy got the
i need to buy more ram anyway i only have 32gb, so ima wait on prices to go down again then buy the 128 i wanted lol
it’s gonna take fucking forever tho
I only have total 3 kits of ram all being D5
it couldve been 4 ffs
i saw like too much ddr5 yesterday it was diabolical
Trident Z Royal is for real kings nowadays
i really hope work slides some 🙏
insane
Gamer Series
geniunely called "R9 Gaming Memory"
Something just came to mind
How many kids won't know at all (Either through actual application or media) to hold a phone by the bottom of it to muffle out whatever they're saying and not let the person on the other end hear them?
why is there a discord work server
dont mess
since im gonna be doing qa im gonna know what vendors tend to die more oftenj
floppa assurance
So funny story...
I bet we still have them, would have to check with facilities... but our DC is 3 floors. about 8 ft of reinforced concrete between floors with 1 floor at grade, about, 1 floor above, and 1 floor below
Our campus was building a huge building about 700 ft away from the DC and this part of PA is all bedrock/granite/etc. so it required copious amounts of blasting to clear the rock for the new building
Our site team and insurance companies wanted us to put seismic sensors on all floors and all areas of the data center so that we could assure no excessive vibration while blasting
oop asrock took the post down
Yeaaaaaah
thats the second time that an aib has announced the 9950x3d2
alienware announced it months ago
Dude I am 95% certain that 9950X3D2 is NOT happening
idk why they would be delaying it by so much unless the intent was to just not launch it at all
I wonder if it was a hail mary product to save them if Intel had a thing
imagine they launch it at computex and you can only finally buy it like 5 months before zen 6
or their superglue couldnt hold 2 9850x3ds and the better binned imc together
3090Ti situation
id be tempted to do a newegg 9800x3d trade-in and get one if they did launch it right now
even though i know it's pointless
it would just be cool to look at
I think it exists as a SKU but will never launch
It factually makes zero sense to even exist
if it launched then would you sell all your 9950X3Ds and replace them? xD
I imagine 5nail would grab 1 or 2 to try
Probably not here, I actually use my frequency die for work stuff. It runs everything faster that’s not a video game.
I dont see him replacing each one
i think there would be many "work" applications that run faster with extra cache on the second ccd because we can observe 9950X3D being faster than 9950X in some examples
I won't replace each one, but I would grab one to try
but it would be a very small difference in most cases
the problem is those work applications would already work faster
like when you think about why 9950X3D makes sense, its the same reason why a 9950X3D2 doesn't make sense
not me reading "anti-semetic"
9950X has one high frequency good bin die, and one cope die with lower clocks.
Cartman ass memory
The second (X3D) die in the 9950X3D is actually good
Because if im not wrong in these apps where its affected, the tradeoff is that other apps that dont benefit get slower
they have identical clocks, just flipped
9950x is 5.7GHz CCD0 and 5.4GHz CCD1
9950x3d is 5.4GHz CCD0 and 5.7GHz CCD1
this is why their rendering benchmark scores are identical
my 9950x3d superglue (imc) is shit
9950X3D2 is 5.6GHz on CCD0, but i have no idea what CCD1 is
idk if it would be another 5.6GHz 3D CCD or a lower 5.4GHz one
It should be 5.6 for the X3D die no?
on 9950X3D? no it's 5.4
holy plate of trio unhealthy stuff xD
on 9950X3D2 it would be 5.6 like the 9850X3D
The point is that the 3D cache is not pooled - its bound to one CCD or the other. Any workload that spans more than 8 cores, even with dual 3D CCDs, is going to suffer in performance due to latency between the CCDs. It's not like you'd be gaming on 8 cores on CCD0 and then running some sort of memory-intensive database on the other CCD at the same time. So really, the 9950X3D makes almost zero sense.
ohhh i see
dual cache is useless for games but it could be useful for some workloads
it took me 2 reads to understand xD
You would have to have a process that you can run in parallel, anti-affinity
but then you're bound by the infinity fabric ass bandwidth
so like... it literally doesn't make sense to exist, truthfully
if this was true then there wouldnt be Epyc processors that have 3D cache on every CCD
there are workloads where it makes sense, but yes for most consumers it would just amount to bragging
Server workload is affinity-able and, having benchmarked the EPYC X3D, we could not actually correlate performance to the 3D cache
you best believe i will brag about my 288MB of L3 cache if dual BLLC NVL launches
they should just move infinity fabric from repurposed pcie 4.0 to pcie 5.0 fr
There was one case running SAP HANA on EPYC X3D was faster, but thene it wasn't
the amusing thing is they can fix the bandwidth problem by just running two links to each CCD which is what Epyc processors do
but extra bandwidth isnt really necessary for normie workloads and they want to save their 5c per cpu
You bet I’ll be swinging 52 cores around here too.
our*
You have the whole NUMA problem. If it’s not in the local CCD cache, the data is cross CCD which introduces enough latency that it might as well be a cache miss.
you’re gonna get stuck at like 8400


