#tech-chat-2

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tepid mason
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So how do i see how much it uses

pure garnet
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sensors tab, cpu package power

hoary hatch
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I very much assume it will sell out instantly and/or have shit 265k trade in value

civic reef
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Wait
Is it bothering you at all

shell void
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pshh arrow lake sell out instantly? XD

pure garnet
shell void
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the only reason theyre offering it for $300 is because ARL doesnt sell

civic reef
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I really don't want to bother anyone with these

Already got yelled at once I don't want it to happen again

civic reef
edgy laurel
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early RenoDX build has fixed a fuckton

hoary hatch
pure garnet
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i have gotten more anguish from microstar international than i have from anything else

civic reef
wraith steeple
edgy laurel
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still 90% broken

shell void
pure garnet
tepid mason
pure garnet
hoary hatch
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Also Newegg trade in seems like a hassle

tepid mason
young void
wraith steeple
civic reef
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Still washed out for me
I only get to see washed out ig

young void
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I ask the dumbest questions, but gotta learn somehow

pure garnet
pure garnet
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with aspm disabled and gen 5 set

shell void
civic reef
pure garnet
shell void
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id take a reduced value over selling second hand to not have to deal with a random

wraith steeple
pure garnet
civic reef
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That's awesome

pure garnet
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i just bought an asus board today so i’ll swap that in once it arrives

tepid mason
hoary hatch
shell void
civic reef
edgy laurel
pure garnet
civic reef
tepid mason
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But not for a noctua nh d15 ?

hoary hatch
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I think I failed to make my point earlier

tepid mason
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When i had a peerless assassin 120 it was like 40°

hoary hatch
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It's only $300 and likely to go on sale and have shit bundled with it

That's total impulse buy territory

pure garnet
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if you want you can set the fans to 100% and if the temps haven’t changed you could remount the cooler with a new paste application

shell void
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the only reason it would be interesting to me is that you could (if they dont drop the trade-in value) get it for $70

pure garnet
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but i see nothing wrong with 65c at 70w

shell void
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if you wait 6 months just to pay more money while we're on the eve of nova lake then that seems silly to me

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without a worthy trade-in it's pointless

hoary hatch
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I don't trade in/sell PC parts

young void
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Tedious business

civic reef
young void
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So many lowballs lol, cant blamem though

shell void
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i already dont love selling pc parts to friends because i worry about them getting damaged in shipping

civic reef
young void
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Valid ×2

pure garnet
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the 5070ti was like a 2 month process

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had to file a credit app at michael’s resale llc

young void
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I just build 1 to test new tech then cycle

wraith steeple
shell void
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had to use the kristopher escrow service

young void
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Medusa prep

civic reef
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I am just aiming to keep most of my tech with me
For backup builds, testing hardware.. The sort

pure garnet
pure garnet
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mystery goo and rko cardboard

hoary hatch
civic reef
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Okay getting that score on stock with an air cooler is already impressive

But not even going to 90° C?!

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Oh my days that's super awesome

pure garnet
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when the friend then sent it to me they about destroyed the box

civic reef
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What cooler??

hoary hatch
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Delightful

shell void
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thankfully i put the box inside of another box with a bunch of packing foam, and taped the SHIT out of the outside box

pure garnet
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the actual card/retail packaging is fine but

shell void
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i wasnt taking any chances

pure garnet
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they were NOT kind to us

civic reef
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Also, how do you think a 5820K (worst case scenario CPU) would fare in modern gaming lol

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Was it the equivalent of a 6c 4770 or 6c 6700?

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Wait no, yeah
4770

shell void
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if you overclock it then itll be close to a R5 5600 in most games

civic reef
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Socket 2011 5000 is equivalent to consumer socket 4000

brave panther
civic reef
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That by itself will probably be like $30-50 here

pure garnet
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my advice is treat ebay for parts or not working as “tried to fix and still broken”

shell void
pure garnet
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and not assume it’ll work

civic reef
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And here we have lots of geniuses, so

pure garnet
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i would still assume the same

civic reef
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It's very possible that it's still working but just needs a touch-up

shell void
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untested = i know this doesnt work but i want more money than i can get if i list it as broken

merry stirrup
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lol that job offer was ez claps

cosmic gazelle
pure garnet
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x99 boards croak enough there’s a whole market in china for reusing their chipsets

merry stirrup
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i don’t think i’ve ever had an easier experience

civic reef
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Plus, at worst I can keep them as decor lol

cosmic gazelle
merry stirrup
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made me troubleshoot a computer. all it needed was a cmos reset 😭

civic reef
pure garnet
civic reef
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Peerless assassin is cheap, 45

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
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time to QA and build computers

pure garnet
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floppa imma just get a palette for you bro

shell void
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i ran my 5960x up to 4.7GHz on a peerless assassin and it wasnt even thermal throttling yet

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wattage reading was broken in Hwinfo but that shouldve been 300W+

merry stirrup
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this is the most optimal solution

civic reef
merry stirrup
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2 weeks time see you then

pure garnet
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i want to offload like 3-4 motherboards total

cosmic gazelle
civic reef
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Because the IHS says Core i7 and 3.0GHz

Image was too low quality to see anything else

merry stirrup
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@turbid locust you too bbg

pallid marsh
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Jettae was talking shit in tc1 about Intel E cores but built his friend a fx 9590-rtx 3070ti build

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
shell void
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more cores, more surface area, and better TIM

young void
civic reef
pure garnet
shell void
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i hear youre an expert air cooling overclocker

civic reef
cosmic gazelle
civic reef
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I'll probably need one anyway
I want to keep ambient temps low in the case

merry stirrup
cosmic gazelle
civic reef
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Try to keep the HDDs nice and comfy

pallid marsh
cosmic gazelle
pure garnet
civic reef
merry stirrup
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maybe

civic reef
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As cheap as $45-50 for 240mm

merry stirrup
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that sounds the most fun lowkey

cosmic gazelle
topaz veldt
shell void
civic reef
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Cheap but pretty decent AIO

pallid marsh
topaz veldt
cosmic gazelle
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i’m kinda surprised

topaz veldt
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I am thinking of throwing all the 8-core models out

young void
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To your pal wormm for test cpu yiss yiss

cosmic gazelle
pallid marsh
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15w vs 210w

cosmic gazelle
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what’s the best laptop i3 that is actually purchasable anyways

pallid marsh
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Are they not all ultra 3s now?

young void
cosmic gazelle
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same thing

shell void
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Ultra 3 205 but it barely exists kinda like the R3 3300X barely existed

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oh you said laptop but whatever, arrowlake HX and desktop arrowlake are the same silicon

pallid marsh
topaz veldt
young void
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Lol ×3 the price

cosmic gazelle
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seems like there hasn’t really been one since 13th gen

cosmic gazelle
pallid marsh
young void
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Likes to live on the edge

civic reef
cosmic gazelle
civic reef
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For the V3 that has a non-ugly pump-head

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Wait strike that
It's $80 💔

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The ugly head V6 is $68

merry stirrup
pallid marsh
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I'm happy they are getting so much hate

merry stirrup
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easiest experience of my LIFE shit was so easy

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saw some cool msi lightning’s, apexes, whatnot

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more ddr5 than anyone here has including snail

topaz veldt
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I am a collector

merry stirrup
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i saw like 500 brand new kits in box

pallid marsh
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Autopen signatures smh

civic reef
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Satellite cooler??

pallid marsh
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$23 is a steal

pallid marsh
pallid marsh
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Is that normal

civic reef
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Yes

pallid marsh
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Damn y'all are leaving your currency behind

civic reef
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No one uses lbp for anything but in-person transactions usually like supermarkets or such

civic reef
civic reef
torpid yoke
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who has a steam deck

pallid marsh
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Me

topaz veldt
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i have 8 of them

torpid yoke
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one of you want to take a steam key for my game and lmk if it launches / runs?

fringe vigil
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hows yall spring break

steel stream
fringe vigil
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i havent started

pure garnet
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i love opening gpu z everytime i boot my pc to see what random generation it selected this time

eager notch
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Is good to pair 5600 with 7800xt for 1080p?

steel stream
pallid marsh
pure garnet
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not yet, 2.0 lowest so far

fringe vigil
civic reef
pure garnet
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as long as the board doesn't explode before my x670e-e arrives i really don't care anymore

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i'll just reboot the pc until 5.0 comes back

steel stream
pure garnet
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mlg actually stood for more lame garbage

steel stream
pure garnet
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yeah

steel stream
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friends don't let friends buy MSI

pure garnet
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never again i got bit twice in a row

steel stream
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wise words from @hoary hatch

civic reef
pure garnet
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can't wait to bump this shit while i build the pc and then go insane

wooden oxide
civic reef
steel stream
wooden oxide
pure garnet
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i’m 2 msi boards into being buggy and broken, 1 was perfectly fine

pseudo crater
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Im gonna buy a mac to game on

pure garnet
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have fun

steel stream
wooden oxide
pure garnet
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shout asus for leaving you room to do your homework in their manuals

steel stream
pseudo crater
pure garnet
wooden oxide
pure garnet
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last gen chipset is actually cooler bc now my board is 67

steel stream
wooden oxide
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And how many supported games are there?

pseudo crater
steel stream
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6

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or 7.....

shell void
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am updating bios and msi locks your cpu fans to 100% during this process

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my computer sounds like an air siren because it’s P14 Pros

wooden oxide
tepid mason
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What would be the best looking exhaust fan in a fractal north

steel stream
steel stream
tepid mason
wooden oxide
steel stream
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I quite liked when I had my brown noctuas in mine

pseudo crater
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Should i buy a mac if i literally only play minecraft and watch youtube?

steel stream
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idk maybe

tepid mason
steel stream
shell void
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literally sounds like a server room

wooden oxide
pseudo crater
pseudo crater
wooden oxide
tepid mason
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K12 fan looks OKAY but not beautiful

civic reef
steel stream
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mogged

wooden oxide
tepid mason
shell void
wooden oxide
shell void
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that bits propa

shell void
steel stream
pseudo crater
steel stream
tepid mason
shell void
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i fuckin hate that they wipe my bios profiles upon update

pseudo crater
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i dont know what to believe anymore

shell void
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takes me like 5 minutes to reinput everything

pure garnet
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wtf is improved the anti cheat mechanism

tepid mason
civic reef
steel stream
steel stream
tepid mason
wooden oxide
steel stream
hoary hatch
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Although my tomahawk has been great

steel stream
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anyways I upgraded

steel stream
pure garnet
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i excitedly await my x670e-e

pseudo crater
pure garnet
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wtf does this even MEAN

wooden oxide
tepid mason
wooden oxide
steel stream
pure garnet
tepid mason
pseudo crater
steel stream
wooden oxide
pure garnet
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i can't wait to put a 990 pro under a gigantic gen 5 heatsink

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30c full load 🔥

tepid mason
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I cant wait to buy nothing because im broke

wooden oxide
steel stream
pure garnet
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akn is your 5070ti gigglebyte or msi

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your gpu has an identity crisis in those photos

pallid marsh
shell void
wooden oxide
steel stream
pseudo crater
tepid mason
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What should be the goal

pure garnet
steel stream
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yuh

wooden oxide
pure garnet
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well mine larps as a gigabyte now

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larp mode 🔥

steel stream
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mine is still thinking it's an msi

civic reef
steel stream
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it's confident and secure in it's indentity

pure garnet
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you NEED the 400w vbios it barely makes use of

pallid marsh
civic reef
steel stream
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im too lazy to flash it just for like risk of rain 2

pure garnet
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it's not really worth it but i just did it bc i was bored

civic reef
steel stream
steel stream
pallid marsh
civic reef
steel stream
pallid marsh
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Mmm sourdough

pure garnet
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4 slot monster

civic reef
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I need to replace my desk within a few years

steel stream
pallid marsh
pure garnet
shell void
pseudo crater
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ill go back to comparing specs and prices now lmao

civic reef
pallid marsh
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Ah

pure garnet
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the mpower is already lagging behind in microcode updates

pallid marsh
civic reef
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I want to get something larger like my previous desk, that one could take a PC, my 27in, and a Dell Longitude/Latitude simultaneously

civic reef
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Inner ones are fine

steel stream
shell void
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oh disgusting man my phyrdls aren't autosynced anymore

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one is 34 and one is 36

pallid marsh
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Oh yeah your a tv monitor

civic reef
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Oh also guys
Guess what

steel stream
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ive got like 50 bajillion remtoes in my room

pallid marsh
civic reef
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Even though I didn't do any work this month (only did one task today for the entire month) I am getting payed $40

wooden oxide
pure garnet
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atv, tv, bed, ac, dac

pallid marsh
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Bed?

steel stream
civic reef
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Granted I genuinely couldn't do anything because both me and the employer were being bombed but still
Yay $40

pure garnet
civic reef
wooden oxide
steel stream
pure garnet
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wait guys i have the method

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rtings scores still show up cached on google results

pallid marsh
pure garnet
wooden oxide
civic reef
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Should I use that $40 to buy the case & x99a + 2011-3 i7, or should I eat it

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The $2*20 looks tasty

wooden oxide
steel stream
pallid marsh
wooden oxide
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Cable management

steel stream
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honestly I will pay for rtings whenever G6 and C6 reviews are out

pallid marsh
steel stream
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I'm still awaiting Monsieur Vincent's video upload to HDTVTest on the site known as YouTube

pure garnet
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but i can’t justify a subscription to read reviews of random shit

steel stream
wooden oxide
pure garnet
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i’ve also realized i’m far less picky than the rtings team is

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i quite enjoy my 6/10 tv and frankly at best buy all i really noticed was matte/glossy or oled/lcd

steel stream
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is that possible

pallid marsh
pure garnet
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my eyes are medically several units off perfection

wooden oxide
steel stream
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use the force

merry stirrup
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racism

pure garnet
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cable management is a big scam by people who take pictures of their floors

civic reef
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@pure garnet Oh guess what
The board has a Multi-BIOS switch

I am counting on the possibility that they accidentally switched to a corrupted BIOS or whatever

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That'd be easy to fix both by just the flick of a switch (literally) and by flashing a new bios thanks to the help of the BIOS flashback button on the rear I/O

shell void
topaz veldt
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Does anyone make a radiator for 2 x 180mm fans

pure garnet
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fiat or mini cooper probably

topaz veldt
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lol

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these are kinda sick

pallid marsh
topaz veldt
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For you @shell void

civic reef
devout ridge
cosmic gazelle
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@pure garnet i have concluded that every other setting i had was stable and i cannot set tRFC to anything below auto without my shit complaining

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what a sad existence

civic reef
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They don't count

topaz veldt
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@turbid locust we out here

civic reef
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Except their R5-R8 PCs

pallid marsh
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Imagine buying a Dell/aleinware with proprietary parts

topaz veldt
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I am glad my newest 9950X3D IMC isn't shit

pallid marsh
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Newest? How many have you went through?

shell void
cosmic gazelle
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must be nice

topaz veldt
cosmic gazelle
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micron 16d

topaz veldt
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oh god

cosmic gazelle
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it was cheap

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and i have x3d so who really cares

pallid marsh
cosmic gazelle
# topaz veldt oh god

16a is unstable at 5600 and i’m stable at 6200 so it’s not the worst possible ddr5 ic i could’ve gotten lmao

cosmic gazelle
shell void
cosmic gazelle
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i tightened like every timing that isn’t trfc or primaries and it’s stable so i’m gonna count that as a win and move on lmao

edgy laurel
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whoa, didn't mean to reply. musta been from hours ago

topaz veldt
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wtf is this

cosmic gazelle
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also uh

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is there a way to filter out any recommendation in my youtube feed with under 100 views

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i'm sick of youtube recommending me random shit

shell void
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dont wanna find niche bangers?

topaz veldt
edgy laurel
cosmic gazelle
topaz veldt
edgy laurel
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bro i'm just as confused

cosmic gazelle
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i'm gonna wait for it to go on sale i think

edgy laurel
cosmic gazelle
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ah

topaz veldt
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The game is NOT worth anything

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I got it for free and I feel shorted

cosmic gazelle
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another aaa title that got hyped to hell and sucks

edgy laurel
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the beginning is ass and will turn people away quick but i'm starting to feel there is a lot more to this as you push forward

cosmic gazelle
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oooooooh mixed steam reviews

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that's bad yikes

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oh wait is it a soulslike? i hate souls games

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because i suck at them and i'm not a masochist

edgy laurel
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no, i hate them too

civic reef
cosmic gazelle
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well i'll wait for more developed reviews to come out, and i'll just try out kcd2 instead

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i hear it's pretty decent

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oh wow 8.7 user score on mc that's really good

civic reef
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How do I know if a board has TPM 2.0 or not

edgy laurel
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TPM is a function of the CPU on modern systems

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Ryzen 2000 / Intel 8th gen+ or something like that

civic reef
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Unless that's just plain wrong

topaz veldt
edgy laurel
civic reef
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Fair

cosmic gazelle
cosmic gazelle
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ah

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there's some way to get it to run on haswell i'm not sure the process

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haven't tried it

civic reef
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Can I just buy a TPM 2.0 module

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Or does it somehow not work

cosmic gazelle
edgy laurel
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presumably you can, assuming the board has a spot for a compatible one and you don't have a CPU with the functionality built in

cosmic gazelle
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looiks like they're $1.19 on aliexpress if you can figure out how to put it in

civic reef
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And the board does have a slot, yeah

edgy laurel
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I've never once seen, touched, or known someone who's had to use an external module for any reason

civic reef
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There's a first for everything

cosmic gazelle
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yeah only reason you'd need it is if you couldn't get bf6 or something to run, but like, any cpu that doesn't have tpm 2 already is going to struggle with bf6

civic reef
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Do you know someone who's done RAID in 2026 for a personal non server/NAS build?

cosmic gazelle
fringe vigil
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im still at the tutorial

civic reef
edgy laurel
civic reef
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I am really confused

fringe vigil
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yh ive not played it all day

edgy laurel
civic reef
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Some say that only Intel 8th gen and newer have TPM 2.0, then some said that it's socket 1151 v1 and newer that did, and now you say Haswell??

edgy laurel
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this is for firmware TPM 2.0 built into the CPU itself

cosmic gazelle
# edgy laurel

haswell definitely has a tpm module it's just not like the fully fleshed out one

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but you can generally get it to work properly

cosmic gazelle
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it looks like if you choose the right board you can just get a $1 module off of aliexpress

edgy laurel
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my old 2700x had it, as long as I updated the BIOS to support it

civic reef
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So Haswell and forward had support but needed an external module
Then coffee lake & newer had it right in the CPU??

cosmic gazelle
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but rghd uploaded a video on the 4790k and played bf6

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and he didn't mention a tpm module afaik

edgy laurel
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Intel PTT, built into the chips

civic reef
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Interesting

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I accidentally French reacted you Guilty, sorry 💔
I have it as the quick double-click react emoji idk why

civic reef
edgy laurel
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i mean 😆

civic reef
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Youtube search is trying to make me look stupid it seems

civic reef
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Everything I see just leads to the constant mention of Haswell only having TPM 1.2, and needing a module for 2.0

cosmic gazelle
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The Intel Core i7 4790K was the best CPU available back in 2014 and it had excellent overclocking potential. With the insane prices of DDR4 and DDR5 RAM, I decided to build a DDR3 based system using this once top tier processor, and I'll be keeping an eye on it's gaming performance over the next year or so.

Here's a taste of what it can do with...

▶ Play video
civic reef
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Wait, now I am even more confused
@edgy laurel I am now getting results that even getting a 2.0 module won't help, since the board can't recognise 2.0??

civic reef
devout ridge
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Red Green Harlequin Dijon

edgy laurel
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So its just not something I've ever bothered to look into

devout ridge
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gotta see cyberpunk 2077 in beautiful 13 fps

civic reef
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5960x with atleast a slight OC should be okay

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Plus, it's a nice little feature to have :3

shell void
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you have to heavily OC it for it to not be a turd

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it only boosts to like 3GHz allcore out of the box

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and you can take that up to 4.3-4.8GHz depending on cooling and silicon lottery

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50% overclock :p

edgy laurel
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why are discord links opening in a new window in chrome instead of a tab in my current window all of a sudden

civic reef
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I can probably manage to run it at 4GHz

civic reef
#

The Intel Core i7 4790K was the best CPU available back in 2014 and it had excellent overclocking potential. With the insane prices of DDR4 and DDR5 RAM, I decided to build a DDR3 based system using this once top tier processor, and I'll be keeping an eye on it's gaming performance over the next year or so.

Here's a taste of what it can do with...

▶ Play video
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(Set link to immediately take you to BF6)

shell void
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x99 haswell has 4x the memory bandwidth, and twice as many cores as the 4790K so it's not really comparable in terms of performance

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this was back when HEDT was actually affordable and dramatically better than consumer platforms

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that being said it is still more than a decade old

civic reef
edgy laurel
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~12y/o today and only getting older

fringe vigil
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i gave coins to the beggar in hernand

edgy laurel
civic reef
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Like 2 or so years if I had to guess

civic reef
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At its fastest I can get a whole 2666MT/s

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My phone is still used to when I used to write MHz oops

shell void
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yeh twice as many cores, 2.5x as much cache, 4x as much memory bandwidth

hoary hatch
shell void
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it performs substantially better than the 4790k in newer games

civic reef
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I am NOT getting 5332MT/s on DDR4 X99 unfortunately

civic reef
shell void
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lol yeah no i could only get 2666 to work on my 5960x

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with my shitty asus x99-a ii board

shell void
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but quad channel 2666 is still aight

civic reef
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I am probably just going to run dual channel for the most part

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Unless I can find another cheaper-ish 2x8 2666 kit that can do the same CL

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Or, well, whatever will run at 2666 with the same CL

cosmic gazelle
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kcd2 is really well optimized wow, 1050 fps on 1440p high

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🙂

civic reef
edgy laurel
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I.. don't think thats a fully in-engine render if you're seeing 1000+fps

civic reef
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Unless that's just the software bugging

turbid locust
civic reef
civic reef
cosmic gazelle
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woah i am actually getting like ~160fps on high dlss q @edgy laurel that's pretty damn good for a new release

civic reef
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Thankfully they were raised by tired IT experts and/or left unrotten in server racks or machines, so they shouldn't be that annoying to converse with

civic reef
cosmic gazelle
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3080 10gb 9800x3d

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using slightly over 8gb of vram

civic reef
#

Yeah that's surprising honestly

#

DLSS 3 or 4?

cosmic gazelle
#

4

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looks really good given the framerate

edgy laurel
edgy laurel
#

weird af frametime stuff happening in this game no matter what you do with the settings

cosmic gazelle
#

eh feels good enough

edgy laurel
#

only reported, i can't feel it

civic reef
cosmic gazelle
#

yeah exactly

shell void
# edgy laurel

that low detail field to the left of your character stuck out to me instantly

civic reef
#

Genuinely each time you specify something about the configuration I am even more surprised

shell void
#

that game really just does not look good for a hyped up 2026 AAA game

civic reef
#

1440p high, DLSS Q, with a 3080 on DLSS 4

cosmic gazelle
#

wait is that crimson desert or are we comparing kcd2

edgy laurel
#

this is crimson desert

cosmic gazelle
#

oh they look the same LMAO

civic reef
#

My board has a 14-1 slot

cosmic gazelle
#

can't you just, buy one?

shell void
#

5960x isnt officially supported in windows 11

civic reef
cosmic gazelle
#

what board manufacturer

civic reef
#

MSI

shell void
#

you might as well just install iot ent ltsc with secureboot and ftpm disabled

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because youre going to have to hack windows 11 onto it anyway

civic reef
#

Do I need to get a specific MSI branded 2.0 module or anything that's 14-1

civic reef
cosmic gazelle
civic reef
civic reef
cosmic gazelle
#

yeah if you weren't specifically playing bf6 you'd have zero reason to get one

#

but kinda sounds like there's not a ton of ways around it for bf6

shell void
#

riot only requires TPM for valorant if youre on windows 11 which amuses me

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they let you play on w10 without tpm or secure boot

civic reef
turbid locust
#

@shell void @pure garnet Quite cool if I do say so myself

cosmic gazelle
civic reef
#

I want to play it, and I'd also like to have TPM 2.0

turbid locust
civic reef
#

I may not have a real reason for it, but it's simply what I'd like

shell void
cosmic gazelle
#

i mean tpm 2.0 has practically zero use for a home, non-work or enterprise pc dawg i'm gonna be real w you

civic reef
civic reef
cosmic gazelle
turbid locust
shell void
#

yeah if i had a transparent sidepanel and my pc on my desk then id want one for sure

brisk jolt
#

mac’s house proceeds to explode the next 2 business days

shell void
#

just because it's cool to look at the actual wireview itself

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i was just saying that software looks like roman made it in 5 seconds

cosmic gazelle
brisk jolt
#

exactly

civic reef
#

I read this as 2.3V

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It's 3V

#

Okay not blind but stupid
That's the right adjective

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I am blind but that's not why I misread it
I am blind and stupid it seems

turbid locust
civic reef
shell void
#

i know nothing about buying a tpm module brother but i wish you luck

civic reef
#

I am going to be running dual channel 2666 with as high of a stable OC as I can on that board

shell void
#

i just didnt use it until i was on AM5 and had ftpm

civic reef
#

Without having any OC knowledge I think I can probably do a 4GHz OC

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Which is 500MHz over Intel's turbo boost technology

brisk jolt
civic reef
shell void
civic reef
shell void
#

i expect the AIB models to be dual connector and 800W+ by default

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but $150 for a toy to use for a year or two isnt bad

#

it's a cool piece of kit

turbid locust
#

Can be used on any 40 or 50 series gpu I end up with in the future at least, and probably 60 series besides 6090

shell void
#

if you sell your 5090 to buy a 6090 then whoever buys it will probably like the wireview as a pairing

turbid locust
#

Would be cool to see an efficiency bump tho instead of 800W gpus lmao

civic reef
#

Far-fetched, but makes a little sense

shell void
#

they could if they want to, theyd just be leaving a decent bit of performance on the table

#

i suppose it depends on how they think RDNA5 will perform

civic reef
#

Fair

civic reef
#

Well not exactly 600W
Probably something slightly lower so a 1-10W OP wouldn't harm it

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If it makes sense, probably factory undervolted with a voltage lock to not exceed 600W??

shell void
#

yeah it could be time for another voltage limit reduction

turbid locust
#

@shell void I still cant tell if my card itself is funny or the TUF vbios is silly

shell void
#

nvidia lowered the voltage limit to ~1.1v with the GTX 10 series, and it's stayed there ever since

turbid locust
#

card will do 2637 @ 880-885mv all day

shell void
#

they could lower it to 1.0v or something to keep wattage in check on 60 series even with the power density increase

turbid locust
#

I have to put 885 to like 2800 to get it to do 2730 and it's not happy

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But I could be memeing on the curve idk

shell void
#

well stop doing that xD

#

set it to 2737

turbid locust
#

Well yeah I'm not i just dont know why its silly

shell void
#

idk funny offset limit behavior that all cards seem to have

#

i cant set target clock higher than 2737 at 885mv on any vbios, but the matrix vbios hits higher ingame clocks at the same target

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the tuf vbios is even less aggressive than the master vbios so it's to be expected that your clocks are a little lower

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i dont think it's worth fighting with instability for days over 100MHz

turbid locust
civic reef
turbid locust
#

It did let me set 890mv to 2752 tho

#

When tf is The Witcher 4 meant to come out

#

Didnt 3 release in like 2013

pure garnet
#

mac when i went above 3ghz i had the same issues you experience

#

my 3350 target meant 3277

turbid locust
#

Maybe asus thing?

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Wait you dont have an asus right

brisk jolt
#

they have msi

pure garnet
#

i’m on a gigabyte vbios

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@merry stirrup yoohoo asus owner

turbid locust
#

I seem to be at a basically locked 2700 @ 890mv atm

shell void
#

i think that's just how all cards are man, youre not going to get game clock to be 1:1 with target clock unless you have an aggressive vbios and low temperatures

brisk jolt
#

i now own a gigabyte, asus and msi card now as well as the LE B580

turbid locust
#

when I tab out it goes to 2745 @ 895

steel stream
turbid locust
#

W

steel stream
#

im currently winning in my group so thats a w

olive wolf
#

pls help i just got 2 1440p 180Hz monitors, smooth when one monitor is plugged into the gpu.... choppy when both are in use, AMD 6600 XT. i've done all sorts of messing with my amd disabling things some mpo thing idk im not good with tech stuff this is my last resort

brisk jolt
#

im proud with my +5% performance 40w less cyclone ig

civic reef
#

Okay that was heavy

#

I don't know if this was just a close lightning strike or a bomb

#

The building audibly vibrated

pure garnet
#

i’m not touching tuning again until my new board shows up

civic reef
#

Man it's 4 AM let your pilots sleep

civic reef
turbid locust
#

I mightve found the 2700Mhz lock tune

#

just need 890mv for some reason.

pure garnet
turbid locust
#

The spikes to almost 2800 when I tab out scare me a little but

pure garnet
#

once it picks a gen it stays with it

turbid locust
#

Yeah that 2790Mhz @ 890mv spike when I tab out scares me for stability.

pure garnet
#

oh yeah mac i bought an x670e-e

turbid locust
#

y

pure garnet
#

msi support useless

civic reef
brisk jolt
turbid locust
#

Kyoko have a functional computer challenge

pure garnet
#

thats the hope bro 😭

#

going back to the promised land of asus bios

brisk jolt
#

5nail try not to get a turd challenge

“Dude wheres all the turds yall talking about?”

civic reef
#

What's wrong with 2.79Ghz @ 0.89V

pure garnet
#

like i can't get a functioning motherboard but every am5 cpu i've owned does 8000

brisk jolt
civic reef
#

Anyway it's goodnight time for me

#

I've garnered all the information I needed

#

I am now allowed to rest

brisk jolt
#

8000 cigarettes

devout ridge
#

@shell void bonus check is 2 weeks delayed, gotta wait to buy the 4k monitor, so sad

brisk jolt
#

im highk convinced it is statistically impossible for the 5nail bins to be turds

devout ridge
#

QD-OLED

#

4k 240hz michael found for 650usd

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27”

shell void
#

hopefully there's still a good deal available at that time

devout ridge
#

Hopefully

devout ridge
pallid marsh
devout ridge
#

I’ll be running it with a 4080S

low sorrel
#

yes

devout ridge
#

triple monitor setup is gonna be awesome

#

video on one monitor, vectorworks on one, chrome search for how the fuck do i use vectorworks on the third

brisk jolt
devout ridge
#

outperformed by a zero fan rtx 6000 pro

#

in a server chassis

brisk jolt
#

(the core is eating 20w while the vram eats 40w)

devout ridge
#

not the gb202’s fault it has 96gb of vram attached to it

brisk jolt
#

it breathes and jerry’s 3060 gets blown away

devout ridge
#

it breathes and jerry’s 3060 feels the disturbance 900 miles away

brisk jolt
#

no matter how far it runs the gb202 at max output will haunt him throughout the galaxy

shell void
#

my beloved GB202

devout ridge
#

jensen should give me a couple GB202 dies for my collection

brisk jolt
#

i should get a 4th am5 board

slim pebble
#

You do and we’ll call you 5nail5

brisk jolt
#

a x670e-i and a 9850x3d sound nice if i can find a combo

cosmic gazelle
pure garnet
brisk jolt
pure garnet
#

that's not a horrible way to use the lanes ngl

#

my sister has a b650e-i and it's a really nice board

brisk jolt
#

or i could get the horrible assrock board again b850i lightning

pure garnet
#

oh shit i get a clear cmos button again

#

we're going back to an adult board

dense granite
brisk jolt
topaz veldt
#

I have a 9850 for sale

brisk jolt
#

and im not in the US

brisk jolt
#

(i only have 2 stores left to check)

#

all the others are shitters

pure garnet
#

bro he said no like 3 messages before

torpid cargo
#

shhh i can't read

#

lol

topaz veldt
#

Greetings

brisk jolt
topaz veldt
#

Left Karhu running over night but turned off the mini split. Whoops. It's 76-77F in here. DIMMs are toasty. Still running though!

brisk jolt
#

Perhaps Ill get one to cover the ARL to NVL transitioning downtime

topaz veldt
#

My 9850X3D was/is great, I just felt goofy using one in a big ass mobo

brisk jolt
#

mac’s bin seems pretty standard for a 9850

topaz veldt
#

so I did 8000 CL36 or CL38 on it

brisk jolt
topaz veldt
#

my kit is actually H24M 6000 CL26

#

but that's uber weird - so I run it at 8000 obviously

brisk jolt
#

hmm icic

merry stirrup
#

still in shock i got job

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

yeah i start monday bro

#

hired me same day as informal interview

topaz veldt
#

oh wild

merry stirrup
#

i was not lying when i said i had their ceo giggling and kicking their feet

shell void
#

@steel stream i always forget that this guy exists because he posts so infrequently

brisk jolt
#

optimal ram

civic reef
#

@shell void What sort of cooling did you need for the 5960x when OC'd to 4.3-4.8 Gigglehertz

shell void
#

i just used a peerless assassin for my 4.7GHz benchmarking

civic reef
shell void
#

oh sorry i only uploaded 4.6GHz scores

#

but it still wasnt throttling

#

wattage reading wasnt working, but it should be 300W+ at 1.3v

civic reef
#

One second, trying to read these

shell void
#

that was by no means daily stable though, i was just cinebenching for fun

civic reef
#

Oh fair

#

Yeah I think I'll be able to get a stable 4GHz?

shell void
#

i think 4.3/4.4 would be a reasonable target

#

4GHz is conservative

civic reef
#

I've never had any OC experience, so 4GHz is what I am aiming to try and do

civic reef
shell void
#

next to nothing

#

it already goes up to 140W with its stock 3GHz allcore boost

brisk jolt
#

3.1 ghz for 7 minutes

#

7 minutes is all it can afford

shell void
#

xD

merry stirrup
shell void
#

yeah it wouldnt even post anything higher than 2666 lmao

#

8x8GB rev.e go brrr

merry stirrup
#

crazy, rev.e should do 5ghz

shell void
#

that asus x99 board is buggy asf

#

which is not surprising

#

x99 boards are largely terrible especially 12 years later

merry stirrup
#

been thinking bout buying x79

shell void
#

what board u thinkin?

merry stirrup
#

non p9 asus probably

shell void
#

i always loved the aesthetic of the sabertooth

tropic crow
#

oh my that’s sweet

shell void
#

tan-brown corsairs

merry stirrup
#

you see the D3 i ordered?

shell void
#

i did not

merry stirrup
shell void
#

XD

merry stirrup
#

&these

shell void
#

that looks so utilitarian and also a bit goofy i love it

merry stirrup
#

apparently the redline dimms are on the best ddr3 pcb

shell void
#

ugh i wish modern dimm heatspreaders were as simple to remove as just unscrewing them

#

instead of having to soak them and rip glue off

merry stirrup
#

😭

#

its worse on 15 year old glue

#

but both are 2133 kits

shell void
#

do u have a dual channel platform to play with these?

merry stirrup
#

u mean quad? or just any ddr3 platform

shell void
#

oh are you going to combine the two kits to get 4?

merry stirrup
#

i have a lot of ddr3 and plans to buy a lot more for x79 and haswell

civic reef
#

Yeah I'll need to buy that $70 750W unit (Verified C tier)

merry stirrup
#

i just bought haswell to use the kits with and test

shell void
#

you need a coffee lake ddr3 platform for the memes

civic reef
#

Or get the A- A650GLS for $80 (definitely not)

merry stirrup
#

z170 d3 boards are so pricey

tropic crow
#

anyone here run windows vms on linux

merry stirrup
#

got one of these

#

4690K, stock cooler, Z97X gaming 5, 2 rando sticks of memory

#

as of now i am on fx

#

and its craptastic

shell void
#

god i hate fx

tropic crow
# tropic crow anyone here run windows vms on linux

my frames are extraordinarily low in my vm i’m tryna see if anyone would know why. using gpu passthru and specific threads from cpu are passed thru, performance drop doesnt make sense with what ive passed thru. maybe msr issue? not sure what to look for

#

going to tech help now lol js realized this isn’t a question channel

civic reef
brisk jolt
#

but tbf like every cudimm from micron is naked

civic reef
#

Except he had it report 30W on Afterburner, and 50W on HWInfo

merry stirrup
#

replaced fans on the r12 guy's 1080ti

#

annoying little zotac card

#

doesnt hit 85c in valley at 720p anymore

#

great success

merry stirrup
shell void
#

v-color used to sell naked 6400 hynix cudimms for reasonable prices before the ram price boom

tropic crow
#

i was boutta buy new ram before the boom

civic reef
tropic crow
#

now i’m stuck with intel ram on an amd system

merry stirrup
#

i wanted 48GB and 64GB kits

brisk jolt
merry stirrup
#

wtf is intel ram

tropic crow
#

ram meant for their boosts and not compatible with amd’s

brisk jolt
#

i should NOT have cancelled the 6000CL28 H16A kit that was incompatible with core ultra

#

big regretz

merry stirrup
#

set the speeds properly and "intel/amd" ram doesnt exist anymore

#

most/all amd boards can read XMP profiles atp

tropic crow
#

yeah but i’m not doing all that i don’t over clock or mess with speeds for my hardware really

merry stirrup
#

guy got the

tropic crow
#

i need to buy more ram anyway i only have 32gb, so ima wait on prices to go down again then buy the 128 i wanted lol

#

it’s gonna take fucking forever tho

brisk jolt
#

I only have total 3 kits of ram all being D5

it couldve been 4 ffs

merry stirrup
#

i saw like too much ddr5 yesterday it was diabolical

tropic crow
#

Trident Z Royal is for real kings nowadays

merry stirrup
#

i really hope work slides some 🙏

tropic crow
#

insane

shell void
merry stirrup
#

geniunely called "R9 Gaming Memory"

civic reef
#

Something just came to mind

#

How many kids won't know at all (Either through actual application or media) to hold a phone by the bottom of it to muffle out whatever they're saying and not let the person on the other end hear them?

merry stirrup
#

why is there a discord work server

brisk jolt
merry stirrup
#

since im gonna be doing qa im gonna know what vendors tend to die more oftenj

pure garnet
#

floppa assurance

topaz veldt
#

I bet we still have them, would have to check with facilities... but our DC is 3 floors. about 8 ft of reinforced concrete between floors with 1 floor at grade, about, 1 floor above, and 1 floor below

#

Our campus was building a huge building about 700 ft away from the DC and this part of PA is all bedrock/granite/etc. so it required copious amounts of blasting to clear the rock for the new building

#

Our site team and insurance companies wanted us to put seismic sensors on all floors and all areas of the data center so that we could assure no excessive vibration while blasting

topaz veldt
shell void
#

thats the second time that an aib has announced the 9950x3d2

#

alienware announced it months ago

topaz veldt
#

Dude I am 95% certain that 9950X3D2 is NOT happening

shell void
#

idk why they would be delaying it by so much unless the intent was to just not launch it at all

topaz veldt
#

I wonder if it was a hail mary product to save them if Intel had a thing

shell void
#

imagine they launch it at computex and you can only finally buy it like 5 months before zen 6

brisk jolt
#

or their superglue couldnt hold 2 9850x3ds and the better binned imc together

shell void
#

3090Ti situation

pure garnet
#

they should just launch it

#

so people stop asking for dual cache

shell void
#

id be tempted to do a newegg 9800x3d trade-in and get one if they did launch it right now

#

even though i know it's pointless

#

it would just be cool to look at

topaz veldt
#

I think it exists as a SKU but will never launch

#

It factually makes zero sense to even exist

shell void
#

if it launched then would you sell all your 9950X3Ds and replace them? xD

brisk jolt
#

I imagine 5nail would grab 1 or 2 to try

slim pebble
#

Probably not here, I actually use my frequency die for work stuff. It runs everything faster that’s not a video game.

brisk jolt
#

I dont see him replacing each one

shell void
#

i think there would be many "work" applications that run faster with extra cache on the second ccd because we can observe 9950X3D being faster than 9950X in some examples

topaz veldt
#

I won't replace each one, but I would grab one to try

shell void
#

but it would be a very small difference in most cases

topaz veldt
#

like when you think about why 9950X3D makes sense, its the same reason why a 9950X3D2 doesn't make sense

leaden dawn
slim pebble
leaden dawn
#

Cartman ass memory

slim pebble
#

The second (X3D) die in the 9950X3D is actually good

brisk jolt
shell void
#

they have identical clocks, just flipped

#

9950x is 5.7GHz CCD0 and 5.4GHz CCD1
9950x3d is 5.4GHz CCD0 and 5.7GHz CCD1

#

this is why their rendering benchmark scores are identical

brisk jolt
shell void
#

9950X3D2 is 5.6GHz on CCD0, but i have no idea what CCD1 is

#

idk if it would be another 5.6GHz 3D CCD or a lower 5.4GHz one

slim pebble
shell void
brisk jolt
#

holy plate of trio unhealthy stuff xD

shell void
#

on 9950X3D2 it would be 5.6 like the 9850X3D

topaz veldt
# brisk jolt Because if im not wrong in these apps where its affected, the tradeoff is that o...

The point is that the 3D cache is not pooled - its bound to one CCD or the other. Any workload that spans more than 8 cores, even with dual 3D CCDs, is going to suffer in performance due to latency between the CCDs. It's not like you'd be gaming on 8 cores on CCD0 and then running some sort of memory-intensive database on the other CCD at the same time. So really, the 9950X3D makes almost zero sense.

shell void
#

dual cache is useless for games but it could be useful for some workloads

brisk jolt
#

it took me 2 reads to understand xD

topaz veldt
#

You would have to have a process that you can run in parallel, anti-affinity

#

but then you're bound by the infinity fabric ass bandwidth

#

so like... it literally doesn't make sense to exist, truthfully

shell void
#

if this was true then there wouldnt be Epyc processors that have 3D cache on every CCD

#

there are workloads where it makes sense, but yes for most consumers it would just amount to bragging

topaz veldt
shell void
#

you best believe i will brag about my 288MB of L3 cache if dual BLLC NVL launches

pure garnet
#

they should just move infinity fabric from repurposed pcie 4.0 to pcie 5.0 fr

topaz veldt
#

There was one case running SAP HANA on EPYC X3D was faster, but thene it wasn't

shell void
#

but extra bandwidth isnt really necessary for normie workloads and they want to save their 5c per cpu

slim pebble
slim pebble
pure garnet