#tech-chat-2
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I have an EVGA 450BR unit where its sole purpose is for my retro build and the occasional "use separate PSU for filling the loop" duties

just these
we don't have that
also these
Use separate psu for filling the loop?
Near my college you'd be damn lucky if someone stopped for ya because they always blow pass those
ahemm the students on escooters
Also on the topic of PSUs
I am so glad I went here before buying a PSU
I chipped the extra $10 in for the A550BN instead of a no-name 500W because of SPL's list
@topaz veldt @pallid marsh @pure garnet also how do i make this turn properly because i got dinged here for moving too far out to try and see the other side of the road
im on a big ass hill and i need to turn left and i can't see shit
Wait for tall van to move
it's parked
dinged?
Points marked off
i failed my road test and i got a mark off for going too far into the intersection
by who? the cops? go to court. A rando? fuck em
oh this was a test? eh yeah you just fucked
unless you needed to stop first where you should stop then creep up
i stopped creeped up
stopped again when i could see the other lane because there was traffic
why am I up?
but i was slightly in the road
Or
why not

im pretty sure thats marks off to not listening to examinators instructions
i probably would've did what you did
for the drivers test just blow up the van with your mind next time
Go back and get the plate of the van and report them for illegal parking
Why didn't I just use xray vision
funniest headline i've seen
what about this https://www.politico.eu/article/poland-general-fired-after-missing-anti-tank-mines-were-found-in-ikea/
You only need to listen to them if they are an old white guy
it was an asian woman
don't make the joke
I was tempted
hmmm i was doing some scrolling on linkedin, and i saw something kinda interesting
Paying in ram?
it seems as if the demo of DLSS5.0 is a lot different than what nvidia showcased in the past
Dl55
in the sense that what was shown last year at GDC was more subtle and natural
some guy on reddit posted these secondaries as the "safe" baseline so i'm gonna see if my micron dookie die can handle it
so it's possible that nvidia made everything a lot more contrast and... poppy? as well as more shiny to try to appeal to mass audience
why is the scl set to the moon
but it seems that they underestimated how much people generally dislike genAI and the look it gives
so it kinda backfired
It made things blue
they knew
idk brah i'm just taking it easy to start with because this ram sucks
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/dlss5-breakthrough-in-visual-fidelity-for-games/nvidia-dlss-5-ea-sports-fc-geforce-rtx-comparison-screenshot-001/ blue ball with dl55 white ball with it off
NVIDIA DLSS 5: EA SPORTS FC™ GeForce RTX Comparison: NVIDIA DLSS 5 On vs. NVIDIA DLSS 5 #001
honestly to keep it real if you're on the x3d just leave it alone
optimizing micron will do nothing for you since the cache just equalizes out most ram
uniform also goes blue
i’m just bored this is not going to get me a single extra frame in anything
As a Material Artist, what I’ve noticed with the DLSS 5 examples outside of the weird uncany faces is that it completely rewrites the values we’ve embedded into the various texture sets. What’s the point of correct metallic, roughness, normal, albedo…. etc. PBR values, if everything gets an airbrushed filter on top? Last year at GDC, I a...
Last year at GDC, I attended some of Nvidia’a demos of this tech and it looked a lot more natural and promising then than what it is now.
i dont have enough gpu for memory tuning to matter even if i had better dimms, im just doing it for fun
this is the kinda thing that I can see past. A full pallete of options means ultimate control. The only person to blame in these specific instances is the person on the sliders at the time.
I'm fully able to see after some more communication from Nvidia that what we saw doesn't have to be what everything in production will look exactly like. In short, wait and see how actual game devs make use of it.
however.. reposting...
☝️
trying my hardest to remain cautiously optimistic about it being mroe than a slop filter
also
Wait why would creeping in matter if the roads are one way each?
tbh, i think the thing it feels most guilty of is it seems to just ignore the texture maps created
which makes sense, idk how'd they implement that but
it feels to me that they be oiling up all the characters
Yeah i'm between hating what I saw in a 30 second demo but being wise enough to realize that can't possibly be exactly what we're going to see in every game designed this way.
It made the hair look better
they got back from a diddy party
i think the core concept is actually pretty decent if i'm understanding it correctly
The real killer was using games we know and are used to as the examples. That shouldn't have happened.
it's trying to emulate better material responses that'd you normally only see in offline renders using AI
Taking someones own memories and twisting them like that was not the play
which if it did exactly that, i think would be phenomenal
tech hobbyists when someone has an unpopular opinion lmao
idk, waiting to see
i think if it doesn't get better it'll just not be used much and if it does and provides better results (in the sense of sticking to the material values painted by artists) then i could get on board
i mean it makes sense, hair is notoriously shitty to have to make and render for real time renders
i'm not sure if we have strand based hair in actual gameplay now (though, UE5 definitely supports it)
but the more traditional hair card approach is just.... a mess
you're basically stacking a bunch of planes with opacity maps on top of each other to build the illusion of hair
i would honestly be pretty pro ai hair if we just left faces completely alone
It looks so much more life like for the hair
but that's horrendously expensive (in the sense that opacity is expensive to render, especially if you have a shit ton stacked on top of each other), and a huge fucking pain to make
A case of the ignorant and idiotic having a voice
I was thinking exactly that 😭
Love Philip and love that he found something to be obsessed over but the glazing can be too much
Tbh the hyper-realistic look is off-putting to me, even though it's technically better
Well he kinda has a bit of a point
You're pretty much taking source material, and "enhancing" it right on your graphics processor in real time with what seems to be insignificant delay
dear god did someone oil jensen and his jacket up too??
Honestly, I can see DLSS 5 as going the same way as DLSS 1 in the future
bro got the dlss 5.0 treatment
Is DLSS 5 kinda like a better version of reshade or enb’s in that it’s more of a filter added at the end of the pipeline?
shit first generation but keeps on getting better over time
no
it's higher fidelity
Kinda?
Still won't get me to play starfield
big update coming soon, looking forward to another playthrough
Higher-fidelity, but it just looks.. Off
it's very highly in the uncanny valley
Really?
or should i say, very low in the valley
YEAH exactly
I played through starfield once and it was just...
I'd genuinely rather 'worse' models than that
A game
well the models themselves and the textures aren't really the problem per say
They'll need to train more AI or try to lessen the degree of AI enhancement for it to be usable
or not the bottleneck i mean
It's the AI model
Too stable-diffusion-like
we have the capability to make photorealistic people fully digitally without the use of ai, we just can't have that in real time
I'm hyped for dlss 5
In 5 years time
honestly these days, it's mainly lighting and material response that's lacking
i'm being cautiously optimistic about it depending on the way it progresses
if it goes down the path that's being shown, then you can throw it away
if it does a better job respecting the authored textures, then i can see it being a leap forward in fidelity without sacrificing artistic vision
speaking of, there was an animated film from 2001 that I remember being talked about as taking 4 years to render. I bet that can be done in realtime today.
A render farm of 960 workstations was tasked with rendering each of the film's 141,964 frames. It took a staff of 200 about four years to complete The Spirits Within.
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within is a 2001 animated science fiction film directed by Hironobu Sakaguchi, creator of the Final Fantasy franchise. A co-production between Japan and United States, it was the first photorealistic computer-animated feature film and the most expensive video game-inspired film until the release of Prince of Persia: Th...
probably yeah, there's some pretty exciting things happening on the offline rendering side at the moment
i went to a siggraph presentation from Pixar about Renderman XPU
meanwhile a single 5090 could crank out that film in a weekend
(maybe not, i have no idea)
it's crazy how they got both the CPU/GPU//XPU renders in renderman XPU to look the same as RIS
Probably could lmao
lemme see if they have anything like that posted online to show
oh yeah it tanked but it was still pretty cool for nerds
NVidia's offering in 2001 is the GeForce 3
That thing had 64mb of DDR VRAM
4 Pixel shaders
1 Vertex shader
8 TMUs
4 ROPs
oh it looks like that was used in the spirits within too
TTFP is lower, but that's probably cause they have to load shit into the vram which takes time
How much faster is ris compared to the ones used in that movie
@edgy laurel In pure memory, one 5090 is worth 768 of their GPUs
Btw that had a 128 Bit bus
The first 18 months of development were spent creating the in-house software SQFlesh, which plugged into the programs Autodesk Maya and RenderMan. The majority of the rest of production was spent on animation.[21] Square accumulated four SGI Origin 2000 series servers, four Onyx2 systems, and 167 Octane workstations for the film's production.[22][23] The basic film was rendered at a custom render farm created by Square in Hawaii. It housed 960 Pentium III-933 MHz workstations. Character movements were filmed using motion capture technology.
The film consists of 141,964 frames, with each frame taking an average of 90 minutes to render.[20] By the end of production Square had a total of 15 terabytes of artwork for the film.[20]
.. And NVidia is giving us 96 bit in 2026
rendeman yeah, but a really old version of it probably
Imagine if you time traveled to 2001 with one of those
Is this 9gb 5050 really coming out?
idk, it seems to me GPU rendering just weren't that useful for high end productions up until relatively recently
just cause of the sheer amount of vram the 6000 blackwell pro has
96gb of gddr7 is still bonkers to even think about
I can't imagine Nvidia using 3gb gddr7 for a 5050
Actually give a 6000 Blackwell pro to NASA in 2001
Would that be faster then the supercomputers that they had back then?
probably not
Wow it isn't even close
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCI_White#:~:text=ASCI White - Wikipedia,of 12.3 teraFLOPS (TFLOPS).
ASCI White was a supercomputer at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, which was the fastest supercomputer in the world from November 2000 to November 2001.
It was a computer cluster based on IBM's commercial IBM RS/6000 SP computer. 512 nodes were interconnected for ASCI White, with each node containing sixteen 375 MHz IBM...
A 3090 has 3x the compute
yeah until you run into memory limits
It's coming out yeah
But on the plus side, some companies are using the 3GB chips to make 12GB laptop 5070s
Pfft who needs memory
Nvidia said we couldn't have 24gb 5080 because of the small supply and cost of 3gb gddr7 but will put it in a fucking 5050
24GB on a 5080 would make it no more useful of a card it is now
if you want more than 16GB you have gotta be running an ai girlfriend on the side
if the 5080 had 24GB the next complaint would be that its nowhere near fast enough
because its not lol
Yeah the 5080 is lack luster but still why give the fancy 3gb shit to the lowest end sku
because people are going to actually buy that and be able to give them insane margin
nobody wanted a 5080 anyways because its 1200$ lol
5080 super/ti for $1800 with 24gb vram could sell in the current market I think
Because you can go kick rocks for all they care
I wouldn't even be mad if they gave it to the 5060
Makes it a semi-1440p card
But nope, 9GB RTX 5050
it's seen in shipping manifests so yeah probably
getting mildly tired of grown ass mfs beefing at work like teenagers
Remove the 8/16gb skus for the 5060ti and make it 12gb then sell it as "MSRP" $400
i think MLID had the right idea when he said that nvidia keeps the xx50 card in production for several years, and they were probably just trying to make a sku that doesnt use gddr6 so that theyre not still making gddr6 cards in like 2028
and make that sku as close in vram quantity and bandwidth to the original as possible
Is 3gb gddr7 way cheaper now?
ive never found a site that tracks 3GB G7 chip pricing so i have no idea
Genuinely doesn't deserve it
It's the ONLY card that's okay with being 8GB in 2026
5060 12GB, with a Ti 12GB
5070 Ti Super would be 18GB, or 24GB if they use 8 chips instead of 6 (8 chips being current 5070 Ti layout, 6 being 5070)
its not so simple as just using 8 chips homie
blah
Maybe it's also going to be a quadro/ work station sku
one card two names
ok ok, i see the vision. what AIO is that?
@merry stirrup i got bored and pulled up my local craigslist, bro wants $300 for a 4790 and a 1060
jesus christ bro you should start scamming your local area, thats an HP board
3gb 1060?
6gb
Damn
Oh it's a $40 sama case bro is just being a shitty flipper
$350 for a 8100 + 3050gb
Pretty clean, I like this
lmao
this is the Office Depot special from 2007
Please, serious inquiries only. Price is firm unless you are a young person.
scamming kids too 😭
pause
hold on floppa knows where i live immma just dm him the listing
true 💀
no low ball offers, i know what i've got
imaginary memory bus
Tree fiddy
clean as
"! I've also installed a few other choice utilities. "
for the general public yeah
i'd kill for one
this guy has malware preinstalled just for you
W gif
The computer requires a monitor or TV (screen), mouse, keyboard, and most importantly, a SURGE PROTECTOR (not just a power strip). I will include the power cord and some extra case screws. As always, I am happy to field any questions!
insane
guy must be banned from our local scrapyards
my bad heres the title
still wanna go out and bu this
looks like copper coated aluminum
pretty good price for a 9800GX2 if it works, 2gpus on board
nvidia did more of those than I realized
in fact I missed at least one #tech-chat-2 message
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/micron-joins-the-3gb-gddr7-party-introduces-36-gbps-modules-for-gpus-lags-behind-speeds-of-samsung-and-sk-hynix I give up im. Just going to believe 3gb chips are just as cheap as 2/4
lol
bro
any others?
bro
7950 gx2
are we counting unofficial but still nvidia
cause all the 2win cards as well
the mars cards
wait that wasn't single PCB
I want to see what benchmarks he is using to believe it's like a 1070ti
I remember now I was just looking for single PCB cards
yeah I got that one
"5070ti/5080 it performs the same as 5080 when overclocked trust me bro" ($1200)
2win is single pcb
pretty sure the 6600GT x2 is single pcb
yeah it is
if unofficial ones count then like 460 2 win, 560 2 win, the mars cards
i love how they're putting two midrane sku's on there
cause 2 midrange skus is faster than 1 high end at the time
i got close to a 5080 in synthetics but i crashed in games
by a good amount
granted i may also not know what i’m doing
like youd have more luck with 2 960s if your workload worked with multi gpu than a 980
idk if you do curves or not when ocing
I just don't remember anything working better lol
mars 1 was dual pcb so it doesnt count
i just punched in +350
mars 2 is single
this is god damn beautiful
i assume we're not counting business/anything other than gaming cards
if we are counting those,, tesla k80, m60, and so on
nah still nvidia here
I love nexus mods: turn off ad block for a faster download speed
each page takes 15 seconds to load because of how many ads there are
k80s are cool
you stole my capacitors
crimson desert pre load started
these are $65 lol
surprised llm people haven’t decided to buy them all
unfortunately thats more money than they were 2 years ago
because kepler cant do shit
because no one seems to realize that llms don’t magically run on old shitty vram with old shitty gpus
they did they just quickly found out theyre useless
minimum you need volta, and i cant imagine they do well
the guy from a few weeks ago that wanted to buy a bunch of Grid K2's to run LLM's. Damn things are Kepler based
yeah
Cooler master atmos II lcd
Interesting
@pure garnet shawty do you live in the middle of nowhere
theres 6 craiglist posts where you live
no it’s just a tourist town so most stuff is facebook marketplace or not here
oh ok
I feel like.. kyoko are you in one of the carolinas?
@edgy laurel I think you'd really like this case - its awesome to build in and apparently the fans flow even more than Torrents
i thought I knew and now i forget
what is it?
epoch?
new Meshify?
HAVN BF 360
oh i was going to buy one instead of y40
oh, yeah. had that been out at the time
yah maybe next time
in 2022, Torrent was top dawg
yah
yeah
still nice - this will look decent in the family room
see, I knew it!
torrent looks a little too much
i knew you were right it just blew my mind
i have kyokos addy bro 💀
10 million dollars and ill share it no more no less
@pure garnet if i get an offer you gotta take one for the team
i'll slide 3m
I work with someone in the Moorseville area. nascar country
i’ll do 2.7 final offer
i mean at that price i'd just move yeah
chips you playing crimson desert
is it free
no
then no
i’m playing this riveting thing called
how high on the passmark list can I get my ram
i’m in the top 1% with about 30 minutes of tuning lmao
because presumably nobody cares enough to tune micron
on ddr5 maybe
is more because nobody is full tuning ram ocs for passmark performance
and more for yc,7zip,pyprime
could ram be the issue for like certain stuff restarting in the pc? I feel like it isnt but sometimes my usbs and bluetooth just resets out of nowhere and stops working for like 15 seconds. It's not a killing problem so I dont need acute help, I was more just curious
are you on ryzen
Yes
AMD was said to be good, I've only had fucking problems with the gpu drivers so far so 😛
am4?
Am5
7600X, 9060XT 16gb
In the early stages of having the pc, it crashed alot when alt-tabbing out of fullscreened games. Also when playing Roblox I cant go on manual and full quality because it sucks for some reason, could just be roblox tbf.
But not a worry, Roblox I play like once a month if that
these sticks are d die but i watched bz’s video on a die and its wild how bad it is
can’t handle 38cl at 5400
peak technology
all those leaked trade secrets for what
value village memory
happy St. Patrick’s day mfs
was gonna say its early but i realise its 6pm even my time
these tall rectangles are green today
my window is damp from the fog today and i had to zoom in a lot for the photo but its green and thats all that matters
lived an entire lifetime before this Guinness floppa
dlss 5 is cooled
cooled
imagine the frames though😂
concrete jungles where dreams are made of
guys i just cant get behind the noctua computers
it just looks like shit
No clue who’s keeping Noctua in business
your products are 200% more expensive while being maybe 5% better than the competition lmfao
if even 5%
fr
I'm sorry what 400$
. Shit ima diy it that that point.
yup
idk i kinda like it
It looks woody
it looks brown
idk what to tell you
Funny I got 2 of their A4x20 fans recently to replace the fans in a network switch but that didn't work. Was lazy to return it so now I am repurposing it for some other cooling in my case
Am I the only one who thinks the Flux looks cheap af?
ram cooling potentially
its antec bro
even in your time antec was cheap as fuck
needed no, but cool otherwise
Ironic considering it’s $400 USD.
Like this in person looks complete ass - it looks like fake wood dishwasher covers from the 1980s
the screens arent even screens theyre just segmented displays
i get it but at the same time its a 400$ case
even with a 3x profit margin target its a shit product idk
welp that explains that lol
i was hoping it was going to be an actual custom noctua case, not just an antec flux
well it’s a $180 case bundled with $272 in fans and hub
i also have zero interest in their upcoming AIO that's just a generic oem unit with a piece of noctua foam on the waterblock
very lazy product launches
you do save money but realistically who wanted that specific case and those fans
that case cannot be 180$
that’s the actual msrp
man
Introducing FLUX Pro, Antec's brand new flagship case model that is meticulously engineered for functionality, performance and style. Crafted from heterogeneous materials including metal, glass and wood, along with many other innovative features, Flux PRO delivers absolute aethestics with outstan...
163 rn but list from 180
wow that’s lazy
20 years for some foam
carefully tuned austrian cooling instrument
if noctua made a collab north with 4 fans for $250-300 i think that would’ve gone better
instead of $400 for this
i hate that the brown on the flux isnt even noctua brown though
noctua brags about the thousands of dollars they spend on color matching and making sure their product is consistent but dont care what their collab partner does
hot
okay but where's nh-u12a g2?
2027 q3
im prob going full lian li whenever i rebuild
idk what i’ll do when i rebuild but unless i have a hardware failure my next upgrade will be a full rebuild
but like this, not a lianli A3
damn calling out the macster and his average sized box
i like my epoch but i wish i had room for the xl on my table
because now i can’t put a cool 6090 in it
last i checked the LianLi TL120s were the best performing "beauty" fan
the green mag logo sticks out like a sore thumb in that build
time to setup a shop bot to get a FE
nah i’m gonna wait to see for whatever card lets you do the fun stuff
like how 5090 master owners won with the matrix bios
naturally we all have to get 1000W dual connector cards
(i probably wont get a 6090)

nova lake 52 core for sure though
final fantasy 4k 120fps with dlss uses like 60% power on my 5070ti
so the only 6090 benefit is tinkering with it
yeah and i dont think 60 series is going to have any exclusive features
because we got the full SM redesign with new NVFP4 instruction, and the new display engine with blackwell
BONUS CHECK SOON, you know what that means, OLED!
it's probably just going to be a performance boost which is what people want, but that's less interesting to me
that’s the financially sensible choice right?
yeh
thank you, i can always rely on you michael
rebooted my pc and the nvidia app still broken :\
your bonus check should go straight towards the ASUS ROG STRIX OLED XG32UCWMG now that it was discounted two days ago
it calls to you Iroh https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824281378
is it doing the bug where things dont load, and you cant access dlss override options?
i get that if i fuck with bios swaps and driver swaps and windows reinstalls
it goes away eventually without me doing anything
yeah i just blew away the entire app and reinstalled it
i wanted to get fortnite off it's geriatric dlss 2
youd think that Epic would be more proactive with adding new nvidia features
it surprises me
no they want you to use their ue upscaler
As much as I love the Flux Pro..... I honestly would say that the Meshify 3 XL beats it by an eyelash for me

bad news- in the year of our lord 2025, asus makes an oc capable board with no way of clearing cmos besides just taking the battery out
good news- bios profiles persist through the reset
Putting a 2mm thermal pad on top of the processor in the MacBook Neo = 10-15% higher multicore performance (@ 1-2W higher power)
highly recommend
it probably broke when i swapped to the revised 400w bios
but the fans are way quiter so im keeping this bios 100%
does no one test their own products
apple isn't going to have the bottom of a laptop soak heat by default
and the neo target market does not gaf about 15% more multi
Apple purposefully doesnt let the chips in the Neo and Air dump into the chassis because it makes your lap and fingers hot
especially if you thermal pad a M4 or M5 air
you don't think in the entire company knows how their own chips perform in every possible thermal condition an environment? they know.
@shell void holy shit 360w
but we're kinda at the point where even the base M series is too much heat for the 13" Air chassis
my bonus check ain’t that big
it has a substantial performance deficit compared to the mac mini and 14" Pro
im wondering if theyll stop selling the 13" Air if the Neo is successful
The Neo will be successful at that price
the 13" air feels redundant to me if the Neo serves that "cheapest 13" macbook" market
At the student discount of $499 it's a great deal
wowza
I’m considering buying one
my predicament is if I want a $500 Neo or a 15” refurb M3 air for $900 lol
It will entirely be determined by when I check out a Neo in person
Not sure I’ll be happy with a 13” display
preset l made it power hungry
i know i wouldnt be, i love the 16" 16:10 form factor of my Pro, but im not putting it on school desks
yeah the power difference is surprising
it's like +100W compared to preset K at 2160p on a 5090
I can’t justify the price of the Pro
putting those tensor cores to work
wouldn’t it make more sense to just thermal pad it and then apply a hard power draw limiter
to reduce overall core temps while not actually outputting more heat total
no because the entire point is to not heat up the chassis
this same hack has applied to basically every unibody macbook
if you don't care about heating up the bottom you could just use it as a heatsink
is VRR desirable
it depends on the framerates youre playing at, and whether or not youll be using dlss framegen
but it's not really detrimental to leave enabled
Them damn laws about laptops not giving us dangerous heat burns
like if im above or below my frame target?
oh wait you have the 540Hz PG27AQWP right Badger?
yee
i wouldnt use VRR on that panel
thanks
i just redid my setup and now my monitor is fucky
the tv has been impemented
Has dynamic frame gen been released yet?
march 31st
I thought it had come out with DLSS 4.5 but then someone told me it was just videos of it like a preview
Oh that’s not long
okay its finally working
my dsc ratio is so fucked lmao
dont worry i will not be using a 21:9 vertical monitor
but i have finally upgraded to a sit / standing desk
and a television
cool beans open frame case
well it turns out the adapter i needed for the ultrawide will be delayed
so i cannot plug that in tonight
where yall get wallpapers
i took the photos for mine
based
if you just preview the first two images and then use ur arrow keys the client will work to view it
good pix king
ty
thanks for the info! didnt know that
dude alfredo fortnite horror is the xp meta
i get like 40k xp a day in 5 minutes
you lost me at fortnite
That fuggin scoopy/duct on the floor of the HAVN BF 360 is super effective
afaik the only 2 that really matter are trfc and trefi
5090 master eating that good air?
this is a massive oversimplification
and trfc is barely a factor half the time from what i gather
I could try to target 120ns range
Or I just downgrade to a 9850x3d and actually hit 8k g2
at this point you are more likely to get one that doesn't
yeah pretty much
the rest of the timings are for fun
tightening refreshes has the biggest impact on game lows
and itll matter even less when next gen CPUs have 144MB L3 per chiplet
i’ve definitely raised benchmark performance by doing tertiaries, but obv games have different demands so if we mean games then yeah
nah if the macbin gets a normal bin mine would also be pretty normal
9850x3d is the pity chip
it seems to be impossible to get a shit 9850x3d
yeah
macs cpus have all been better than yours unless you're just skill issued
they seem to be at least somewhat binned
0 chance in hell i would downgrade from a 9950x3d to a 9850x3d tho
i only have a single ccd chip because amd delayed the 9950x3d at the last minute so that they could polish the chipset drivers
also i realized g skill rma’d my 32gb kit by sending me a 16gb kit which seems like a mistake but im already lowkey scamming them so im just gonna leave it
I just still need to run corecycler to optimise my power draw
if the dual ccd chips didn't rely on gamebar to work best i'd like one
but for 16 cores im kinda going “this might be a waste of time”
what does this do, you’re the second person to talk about it
but since 90% of my windows use is just games then i stick with single ccd
relying on gamebar is a skill issue
undervolting
if you underclock the slave CCD then it's deprioritized and unproblematic like Ecores in an Intel CPU
yeah but how specifically does it help dial offsets
yeah but then i lose giga hurts
i wouldge bought a 9950X3D if it was out on day one
as opposed to not having the cores at all? xD
cores i realistically don't need yeah
you stress each core individually to isolate them and see if they turn up any errors at x negative CO
just do 6ghz on your 3d ccd silly
im not doing the linux build stuff on campus anymore
so the 9800x3d multi is fine for me
like in ryzen master or with a reboot every time
fair enough queen
when i was building a kernel or whatever every day the cores were nice
i just find big core cpus fun to mess with so i want ultra 9 495k
to be fair most people who need better multi core performance than a 9800 know they need it
and at that point just get intel lol
i yearn to have two pcs like most of you freaks
theres a corecycler feature that adjusts the CO everytime one fails
oh that’s sick i might do that
is this nitobe memorial garden by any chance?
so it’s like set and forget it?
5nail with like 5 goes hard
if ram pricing didnt get silly then i wouldve been tempted to build a Xeon 676X PC to have 32c64t in a single chiplet with 8 channel memory
which image? the pond?
but i dont want to pay $1-1.5K for ram
yeah
i havent tried the feature the last time I used core cycler my 9800x3d passed 12hrs on +200 -30CO
imperial palace garden, tokyo
which will not work as easily bcs the 9950x3d boosts up to 5.7
and i have turds in my ccd1
i’m just seeing direct scaling with undervolting in heavy cpu benchmarks so if corecycler can automatically find my best per core offsets then that sounds great
im too impatient to per-core tune
all of my offsets are just guesses rn
i just use per-ccd offsets and run ycruncher vt3
you only have to tune 8 cores while I have to tune 16
i would still use per CCD on a 9950X3D
but 9800x3d is ez to just +200 -20 anyway
core 8 only does like -10 so ive already identified a turd
wait so can corecycler adjust your offsets on the fly or does it just turn them off if one crashes? i’m confused
yeah everything that isn’t shader caching hits full boost for me i just start seeing clocks drop on full 100% usage scenarios
it adjusts if it crashes then it can restart the process
but you need to properly configure it
hmm i may look into this
since when does corecycler interact with and adjust pbo settings?
just googled it, apparently since version 1.0 they have implemented an automatic test mode
oh, thats new
this is AI but presumably true
there wasn't a full website back when I used it. just a script from the dude on a forum
not sure, heard it last year in another server where someone did it for their 9950x3d and had a full list of what it could do
so basically just set an offset that’s too high on every core and let it find the highest stable value
when it would fail you had to head back into the bios and just that core and start again
it looks like it just uses a rudimentary system of “if the test pass on core x did not complete, a crash is assumed, so raise offset by 2”
yeah but the act of actually adjusting the offset needed to be done by you
i'm reading the readme on the github, i can't find anything about it now doing that on its own
you could probably do it with the ryzenmaster sdk but only if it wasn't a fatal crash
what i’m seeing people say is that it just saves the test progress in a log file and looks at it the next time your computer starts
it’s kinda assuming you’re going to bsod a bunch of times
that might be it, looking in the config script
its calling on an AMD CLI tool
man this is one comprehensive config. it didn't have all this back then
it was just prime95, now its all sorts of loads it can run
ok yep, thats neat.
that should significantly improve how long the process takes, assuming your not hard crashing all the time
from what im seeing, hard crashing all the time is kinda how it goes lol
you just set a started offset of like -50 and it just keeps stepping each core and waiting for it to crash or not crash
remembering back, the threads would crash and just restart pretty often
it would log it all
-50
wait can your system handle a single core crashing without a bsod?
every time my offset has crashed it’s been a bsod
yes, thats kidna the whole concept of the script
thats a crazy comprehensive script, little daunting to configure
what would you need to change besides starting point and step size?
i'd just start going through the config script and adjusting thigns as you like. defaults to prime95 but there is no AIda, ycruncher, and linpack to choose from
i’ve heard most people just use yc but idk
probably don't need to change much if you plan to just sit there and watch it work
yeah i kinda just planned on doing that while watching youtube or something
could burn in protection settings interrupt my games or does it only kick in when idle?
2nd psu prepped keks
Nerd
@pallid marsh have you gone snowboarding
one of the bug reports of all time i've seen
okay throwing the master vbios into furmark with an oc/maxed voltage slider i saw 375w
still not the full 400 but realistically most im gonna get
im putting the master on
lmk if it works, wait lemme link the good one after this nomad run
there's 2 400w vbioses and one has a loud ass fan curve
i mean i can change it regardless
@merry stirrup https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/276936/276936
unfortunately no dice on the master ill just put the strix on
did you try reinstalling the driver
yur
oh rip
oh wait that's a tuf
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/278016/278016 yeah this one
yeah
well i broke 7800
idk i put it on there i doubt itll be any diff performance wise tho
3dmark website is fucking cooked though
strix seems to have worked
kinda lame that asus this gen blocks all the cool flashes on their cards
oh it tired it lmfao
on the astral it's 100% intentional, it's one resistor
why does 3dmark show no comparison scores here
kyoko did you see the earlier convo
well then where is the resistor on the prime? i’m not no bitch
there’s core cycler that automatically determines optimal per core offsets now i’m gonna try it tomorrow
oh on the prime you just got board layout diffed iirc
i see
but like macs card can't run the matrix vbios because of literally 1 resistor being in a different spot
the matrix expects 3 fan channels and asus used 2 on their cards before it
interesting
i mean i can just shunt it and then evc it anyways
fuck yo vbios wars i get manual 1.2v
yeah but that's a lot of work
(i only flashed the master bc i got bored)
how does hwbot handle crossflashed cards anyway
i haven't found a ruling and im scared to ask
what it doesnt matter
pretty sure you can check a box that says you unlocked shaders or something through a vbios flash but thats different
i thought they got mad if the hardware didn't match
tell them you flashed the vbios and to jork it
you can just leave a comment on the post if ur scared or somethin
well first i gotta wait to get a score that i can sub when the website works 🧌
damn you right
if you squint hard enough
basically the same
my friend has a 5070ti even lamer than the prime though
he has the pny single vbios one
euuggh
walmart base model
oh it's fine but
hows it cool? its a triple slot so i imagine nicely
i finally got something useful out of the gaming trio
at least nice enough
yeah
i should probably put my stock vbios on like, google drive, or something
put it on my fileshare
i'll make a named folder for you in the fileshare
we good
well now you know its stored in my house for some reason
old master is because the first one i flashed was a diff build date and had louder fans
ah
you'll need it for when you buy this card for $30 and a ham sandwich
yeah probably
because there's no reason for me to go back to the trio one anyway
same power target and now fan curve is chill
fair enough
thought this was the ocf ngl
LOL
this motherboard is just so dogshit
assrock
@merry stirrup did the strix bios do anything for you
ive only played apex so far
can you feel the power of 20w higher target
in apex my card draws less than 200w 😭
dude my card uses like 160w in xiv i feel you 😭
i run it capped at 120fps and then dlss to drop the util/power so i can watch youtube when i play
I remember being on a 4060 and my yt video on the other monitor dropping from 1080p to 360p 💀
yeah
yeah it's 4000x better than 0.001K
anyone know good places to buy ski shit
Temu
Why you looking for it at the end of winter?
i impulse bought a season pass which includes this spring
inb4 you have enough money for a season pass but not a new gpu
Legitimately
why is all of the larges OOS
To be fair, here in West Canuckistan, end of season is when all the used ski/board swapmeets happen.
wasn't there no snow on the mountains until january?
oh im stealing my cousins snowboard
More or less. Our singular ski mountain didn't get enough snow to open even the nordic side of things until... like 2-3 weeks ago?
but i feel like sharing pants and jackets is a little... unhygenic
If they're washed properly... it's no different than swimming in the same pool as someone. 😉
anyways kirashi you know any places to get good ski/snowboarding clothing and a helmet over here
Swap. Meets. Unless they don't do those in your area? (When I said ski/board, I didn't mean only skis / boards. All the meets over here do boots, snowpants, jackets, gloves, etc. too.)
Skis cost over $500 US but you won't buy a fucking GPU
I don't get you. Jerry
sorry snowboard
Okay, it's like $100 less for a snowboard
ill buy a used one
Why not a used gpu 😭
same price as new
$200 usd for helmet
yeah i need an xl helmet
big brain
A fellow large head
which is incredablity funny because i have tiny feet
the proportions don't make sense
Same wear 9 xx wide and I'm 5"10
can i get a number 9 extra large
Just remember after every crash where you hit your head, you need to get a new helmet
no mips
So it tested well in Virginia tech testing and is ASTM F2040 and CE EN 1077 certified
And cost $40
but mips
I bet you're going to be smacking your head a lot so you're going to go through a lot of helmets
what about this https://outdoormaster.com/products/kelvin-2-mips-ski-helmet?_pos=1&_sid=626d58016&_ss=r
You're going to fall backwards and your head while trying to snowboard
Idk VT didn't test the second version
i mean it sohuldn't be any worse right?
They could have done an Nvidia make a good rtx 3060 12gb then sneak in a 8gb version
Fuckers don't have an XL size
Is this purple or pino
Pink
The color says purple blue
Whatever color people call that, it's METAL 🤘
Liquid metal on laptops is such a problem
They always leak out and eventually leave a giant hotspot on the cpu or gpu
Idk why laptop makers still use it
Me and my GFs laptops now have scorch marks on the CPUs
Ptm 7950 is such a godsend for laptops
first time?
the moment I got my G16 I PTM'd it
@low sorrel wtf
Yeah i should have when i got my g14 back in 2024
Though i didnt expect my GFs laptop to use liquid metal
Its an rog strix g15 from 2021
Didnt know they used it even back then
She just asked me to clean it and since i was gonna clean mine i opened hers up as well
i almost ended up with an white jacket, a white bib and a white helmet
before i realized with uhh
the small issue with that
I've run into someone who doesn't know dual mode ram is a thing and also thinks ram literally just doesn't work unless it was made specifically for amd or intel 
if dude gets lost nobody is gonna find bros corpse ever
GOOD MORNING
idk i went to bed at like
its almost 6pm for me
7 last night? I almost got up at 1 but decided against it
damn
you ever had that cambodian food truck in eugene?
shits fire as fuck go get their skewers
this place
absolutely smackular
wheres the sauce thats supposed to drench the rice
that lil cup
i personally wasnt a fan of the sauce stuff but it was actually pretty insanely good otherwise
i think it was like, 12 $
I made some fire maccy cheese last night
spinach sauce with cheddar and gouda
and the fish fillettttt
quite nice
although i do not like mac and cheese
i was gonna ask what the fried thing is but its feesh
floppa have you tried lani moku
nah
like down by thurston area
yeah i know
what about hawaiian time or whatever im told constantly that its good
uhh hawaiian time that i got off of uber was aight
I got teriyaki chicken and steak with ac salad and rice
kona cafe is the one to avoid tbh
kona seems gross i think they closed anyways
the one just after st vins
Hi I'm having major fps issues like fps drops etc, especially in games like elden ring, fortnite and even rocket league, and usually after I leave the game the PC starts performing bad overall after playing it
yeah pretty sure kona is gone
LMAO did kona close??
yellow front, its still active it looks like
o i think its the mckenzie
also jack in the box is kinda fire
the tacos kinda suck but the egg rolls are surprisingly good
I got the stupid combo box that has 2 burgers, 2 chicken burgies, 4 tacos, and 4 fries
and then i got a salad and a fish sammy and eggy rolls
the burgies are okay
idk im not super into fast foood burgers to begin with, i usually get a sonic smasher
I tried five guys for the first time last week
and the last?
honestly I wouldn't order it for myself but if I'm being dragged there I'll get a burgy
i like toxic burger more
or killer burger
killer burga is actually good
it IS
How do u clean rhis
distilled water and a microfibre cloth
idk im a basic hoe when it comes to burgers bro
just give me the burger and typical toppings no tomato
I can't find any distilled water anywhere
I do have the cloth that came with the monitor but not the wayer
god you're so bland
use distilled water its not worth potentially scratching a 600$ monitor over 2$ distilled water
Too much for me
if you dont have it just wait till next time you hit the grocery store
alr
idk i think it actually lets me know whether a spot is good or not
like, I get that
but also burgy toppings
burgies are like pizzas, the options runneth over
Tomatoes are vile
They’re little red, yellow, green, brown, purple, orange balls, pink of earthy tasting juice that grow on green vines. They should never have been a thing to eat.
just found out my 5070 ti ROG has fan headers the heck
might have RGB headers also
there might be a pcb inside
Sooo one thing about this new case
These bottom out at like 550 RPM at like 25% DC
20% they go off
Wish they could run at like 400 rpm
u must have a very quiet living room to be able to hear them at 550 across the room
@steel stream @edgy laurel Subnautica 2 maybe saved? potential second wind?
the publisher Krafton lost the lawsuit so the old CEO of Unknown Worlds was reinstated, and the deadline for the $250M bonus was extended
Oooooh
I'm really glad to hear that
I'm hopeful for Subnautica 2
Wasn't a fan of Subnautica: Below Zero, but i genuinely believe they'll take what they learned there and do better
Oh yeah I saw this. Good, gooood
I'm like 75% sure my 13900K is degraded in some way. I messed around with settings and trying to even do a simple overclock with this thing seems to either barely raise the cinebench score or actually lower it. Not to mention it also can become unstable in general when doimg that. It also doesn't seem very stable when under volting it beyond 0.02500v or so. Plus a bunch of other stuff. It's possible it's microcode changes, but idk. I'm probably going to RMA it when I can in a couple months. Luckily it is stable when just running at stock settings, so it's not completely borked. I have that going for me.
Also at stock settings it gets a score of ~36000 on Cinebench R23, which is pretty normal, so that's good too.
if it’s stable at stock settings then it’s an invalid RMA
it wont be rma’d if its working properly
chances are you have a turd
🙏
@edgy laurel mind testing this out for me? https://videocardz.com/newz/death-stranding-2-pc-build-reportedly-leaked-on-steam-ahead-of-launch
heh i saw a story about that and thought you'd be testing it yourself lol
I've been thinking about reinstalling windows so maybe lol
I do really want to mess around with pico
No it can’t
considering there some egregious bins for the final vf point it’s unironically likely
1598mv 14900k 💀
My brother found a guy selling this PC (plus a screen [unknown yet], UPS, and chair) - Total selling price is $1300, what do you think?
I'll have to sell the NVMe and get a decent TLC drive, but.. Other than that, I don't see any apparent issues
Oh oops didn't embed the spec sheet
it's fineeeeeee
i have no clue what is in that computer
I forgot to embed the spec sheet
Well I didn't forget but I had to remove it because discord didn't recognise the edited ver with stuff censored out
display, ups and chair is included you say?
And I can't delete the full message as it's pending
Yeah
Display unknown for now
But even if it's a VA panel, I can probably sell it for an okay price
whats wrong with the SSD?
seems like a solid little system though the price
NV3, QLC drive that allegedly slows down to HDD speeds upon extended R&W
For lebanon, and getting display UPS and chair included it seems alright to me
Oh, missed all that
Eh, if this is just stuff you've read I think youll find the reality is it'll work just fine for most things most of the time.
Fair
idk what a segotep psu is but otherwise it seems like a fine computer
In that case I'll probably just retire it to secondary drive status eventually, or put in an enclosure within a year or so
NV2 is the garbage one
Oh I forgot to mention that
I am using my on-hand cash to replace that
A850GL/GLS immediately
It's not even on the list btw
"MU750G"
that is about what i expected
