tech-chat-2

[shell void]

scheduling for amd will be even more challenging because all three of their core types also have multithreading

[wraith steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/bookio-gif-13932157847762104386

Right

I know of the P and E cores... Though the third core is very foreign to me

[random flame]

It's literally just a lower powered version of an e-core basically.

[civic reef]

The LP core?

[topaz veldt]

the efficiency cores are not efficient enough

[civic reef]

Also speaking of differing cores
I found out like two/three days ago that the 8500G has a Zen 4 + 4c core layout

[brisk jolt]

my agent secured it

[shell void]

[civic reef]

How much did you pay for it

[brisk jolt]

800 sgd after taxes

[shell void]

solid

[civic reef]

Okay price

[brisk jolt]

@shell void i have decided to skip ARL refresh to get 2 NVL

[shell void]

cowardice.. but redeemable because the cyclone is a cool card

[brisk jolt]

i want a i5 with better single core performance+more l3 cache bcs im pairing it with the cyclone into a velka 3 using at most a 36/37mm cpu cooler

[topaz veldt]

@shell void I bought a new AIO to help my Glacial not look so ass

[brisk jolt]

👀 👀

[hoary hatch]

Dolby Atmos AIO 👀

[topaz veldt]

yasss

[wraith steeple]

I would unironically buy that Antec Flux Pro x Noctua collab case

And pair it with a Seasonic x Noctua PSU

[brisk jolt]

Im gonna grab an atmos 2 240 for NVL

[hoary hatch]

Mmm noctua glazing

[random flame]

I would prefer one based on Arrow Lake+ with only p-cores.

[brisk jolt]

oh man my 265K cannot keep up in single core preferred games

I get like 100 fps dropping to 50-60 in really bad scenarios

[random flame]

Either that or all e-cores at a core count of 16 for the price of a base i5.

[brisk jolt]

i mean the core chart should still be somewhat accurate

[shell void]

techpowerup got that chart so wrong

[shell void]

i hope it works well for you

i haven’t looked at anything coolermaster in a decade

[brisk jolt]

i know a dude who had his atmos 2 suffer a catastrophical failure damaging his mobo and entirely killing his card

and their CS was absolute buns

[shell void]

[gloomy vault]

fuck u

[topaz veldt]

apparently they're like the new shit we new pump design, etc.

[gloomy vault]

in taiwan to run errands for you 💔

[brisk jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193840159358976/1481915275858415739/0AFC5196-3FC4-4100-B996-41EAF73ECCFD.gif

[shell void]

the last coolermaster thing that i had was a hyper212 black on my ryzen 1000 pc in 2018 so sorry eight years not a decade

[patent gorge]

the upside down orientation confused me for a second there and I read it as 5090 Ti

[gloomy vault]

your paying if singapore customs wants me to declare it

9%

blame the finance ministry

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ahhh-disappear-vanish-dying-emoji-gif-2152887726774041836

[gloomy vault]

$72

[brisk jolt]

yeah whatever its a shame but hopefully we can bypass that xd

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/peanutting-it-the-burnt-peanut-gif-11603416929582216884

[livid flame]

For Ultra 5 Non-K such a beautiful name

[shell void]

our supreme galactic emperor jensen huang is streaming in 3 hours

[hoary hatch]

I wish Nova lake would have P and E core tiles

[shell void]

we need 48E tiles with extra cache base tiles

[pure garnet]

we need as many cores as we can get

[patent compass]

fr

[civic reef]

TIL that a T470s can be charged with USB-C

[topaz veldt]

Found this NVMe cooler on my cooler wall - what do we notice?

[civic reef]

Why's the NVMe INSIDE the Heatsink

[topaz veldt]

That's how it works

But, I had put the cooler on the shelf for future use... with an NVMe device still inside lol

[civic reef]

Odd

[civic reef]

Changing to your spare heatsank NVMe is faster than reloading

[shell void]

sir there appears to be a 990 pro in there

[topaz veldt]

A 990 Pro 2TB lol

[green marsh]

would have been a "free, unexpected NVMe"

[topaz veldt]

super bummer

I am waiting for the NVMe market to skyrocket

[shell void]

it did a while ago

[topaz veldt]

not 2nd hand unfortunately

GN is so dumb

[shell void]

good lord

[topaz veldt]

"RIP discord" - self-hosted alternatives... like 80% of which he couldn't get working

yeah dude, RIP Discord

[shell void]

2.6x price jump

that’s more than i paid for my 1.6TB P5800X

[hoary hatch]

So he immediately iterated what I hated about teamspeak
No persistent chat channels

I was really hoping TS had added that feature

[young void]

Ssd are dumb expensive for new ones rn

[topaz veldt]

As someone with uber homelab infra, there's no self-host alternative to Discord and quite frankly I wouldn't want there to be

[shell void]

optane price hasn’t changed much so they became more reasonable purchases in these times xD

[hoary hatch]

Hard disagree

Self hoested small discord servers for like persistent few person group chat/game chat seems fire

But it's not gonna replace public communities

[hoary hatch]

Basically what teamspeak has always been for lmao

[turbid locust]

5600x but on AM5

[topaz veldt]

Spoken like someone who hasn't hosted stuff that people expect to be always available while also trusting everything people post to their infrastructure

[turbid locust]

The problem with self hosted solutions is it basically stagnates any real growth

None of us would be here or ever talked to each other if LTT had to self host this probably

And like, what would you guys do without Mac shitposting

[odd sable]

I want a mixed solution

Publicly hosted servers, and self hosted, within one client

So I can have a self-hosted server for my and my friends, and also use public ones

DMs becomes a problem though, if you share multiple servers with someone

Bit a solvable one

[turbid locust]

I mean, that’s basically what people do already but it’s just not self hosted. I’m in several “friends servers” with <10 people

And 9/10 if I’m in a VC it’s with someone in one of those servers

Even back when teamspeak was popular, everyone just used Skype lmfao

Only like, the nerdiest of nerds had dedicated teamspeak servers

(aka adults I was like 12 when teamspesk was on its way out LMAO)

[severe vapor]

is it fine to use memtest86 with 2 sticks plugged? do i have to test each one individually?

[cosmic gazelle]

yo i’m having a noob moment and i’m confused

[young void]

Both is fine, stick by stick, or together

[severe vapor]

i tested together and passed without any errors, that means my ram is fine i'm good to go?

[cosmic gazelle]

when i got my 9800x3d i swear it would stick at 5225 during cinebench or whatever with a curve offset as long as I lifted current and power limits

now, its going down to like 5175-5190mhz during r23 even tho my temps are well under control

[glass iris]

sup nerds

[cosmic gazelle]

i’m so confused why this is the behavior that’s happening

doesn’t seem to be a common thing

[vestal granite]

this, theyre already called "servers" but aint none of them is an actual server someone runs. let me selfhost a discord server equivalent and that way i can choose "okay, screenshare at X bitrate Y resoluton etc"

[glass iris]

you've probably done this but undervolt?

[cosmic gazelle]

that’s what curve offset refers to

[glass iris]

oh

i read too fast sometimes

[young void]

Each time the pc turns on itll mem train and boost to its cpu configuration sometimes it may vary. Whats your offset look like?

[cosmic gazelle]

like i’m hitting 86 max and that is nowhere near where throttling should be happening on zen 5 if i remember correctly

[cosmic gazelle]

i’ve changed it around multiple times and experienced the same behavior

i’m gonna do a run with no curve offset and see what happens

[young void]

Can go to thermal limit in the amd oc tab below pbo and set the thermal limit to 90 or 95 if you'd like

Can at least ensure its not an auto limit temp feature

[cosmic gazelle]

you’re sayin to try this?

also i know my PPT TDC EDC is uncapped on this mobo with it on auto i already checked

[young void]

Myte just be throttling at 85 not squeezing that last few mhz out 🍀 🐛

[cosmic gazelle]

that just seems like such strange behavior for zen 5

[young void]

Worst case we clear cmos and reset to specs we know should work, happens

[cosmic gazelle]

maybe i just need a bios update

[young void]

Couldn't hurt any (some pbo presets may become unstable or more stable depending)

[cosmic gazelle]

ya with the curve offset turned off nothing changed except i’m running 2 degrees hotter lmao

[young void]

Pbo enhanced level 1 usually works well and a bit toasty if you get bored, few extra points on cinebench

[cosmic gazelle]

@turbid locust might you impart some wisdom upon me if you get a chance big dawg

[young void]

Need more coffees

[turbid locust]

Perchance

[young void]

You currently running an all core negative offset?

[cosmic gazelle]

.

[cosmic gazelle]

why am I pushing back to 5180 during r23 when there’s nothing that should be telling my cpu to do that

[young void]

His 9800x3d cpu isnt boosting as high as it should* im assuming its his pbo*

[turbid locust]

probably changed X3D V/F behavior cause chips were exploding

The advertised boost clock was never all core

[cosmic gazelle]

i swear i was getting 5225 all core before tho am i crazy

maybe an agesa update happened

[young void]

Set pbo to enhanced 1/level 1 and test it

[young void]

Maybes, couldnt say

[hoary hatch]

My server uptime is fantastic
But I also have appropriate expectations for locally hosted small user base services

For a private group chat, self hosted solutions are fine. Very different expectations than something like LTTcord

[cosmic gazelle]

my BIOS is 6 months old so i’m gonna update it

[young void]

(Note itll reset all bios settings to default)

But couldnt hurt any

[cosmic gazelle]

eh i just have to go back and redo my g1 config

[young void]

And expo ofc ofc

[topaz veldt]

I used Nextcloud for about 15 years (when it was Owncloud) and couldn't disagree more. I might have more experience with it - nightmare. Had 5-6 people host in it.

[cosmic gazelle]

snail do you have any insight to my woes

[young void]

Did enhanced 1/level 1 not fix it to boost higher? The most aggressive pbo preset*

[turbid locust]

it was 70 degrees yesterday why is it fucking snowing I hate this god damn state

[pure garnet]

honestly if you dont have a pbo offset just disable pbo

[young void]

Chips was never seen again

His pc ate him

[topaz veldt]

what are the woes sorry

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/short-circuit-coeur-circuit-film-coeur-circuit-movie-short-circuit-short-circuit-movie-gif-11085951802845552712

[topaz veldt]

yeah but at least you don't have tornadoes

it snowed on Friday a bit here

[turbid locust]

WE DO

THATS THE PROBLEM

several tornado warnings/watches last week

[topaz veldt]

Yeah we have a big one today

School is closing at 2:45 so I have to get the kids

no after care because of severe weather

[turbid locust]

We had a tornado watch last night between midnight and 5am

and now it’s snowing

This time yesterday it was 73 degrees

[steel stream]

https://videocardz.com/newz/creative-launches-sound-blaster-audigy-fx-pro-first-new-audigy-pcie-card-since-2021

[turbid locust]

Y tho

[cosmic gazelle]

well

agesa update made my shit run hotter for no conceivable reason

so that’s pretty lit

[devout ridge]

4 channel surround at the desk

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/idk-egg-man-i-dont-know-smile-not-sure-gif-25766015

[devout ridge]

actually not even, it’s legit just stereo + a sub channel

[elfin aurora]

has anyone used an sas/hba controller to ubuntu before? when i boot up my pc the whole web interface works, i can see the drives and stuff but in ubuntu i can only see the sas controller details but it wont show any of the drives connected to it

[devout ridge]

download the associated drivers

[vestal granite]

tornados is dumbs

[cosmic gazelle]

well i’m stumped

i swear when i built my pc i was at 5225 all core without hitting thermal cap and I cannot do that anymore

i was getting like 23500 on r23 and the best I can get now is 22xxx

[pure garnet]

pc explode

[young void]

[cosmic gazelle]

so i’m experiencing even weirder behavior now

if you disable current limiters and shit you have to make your curve offset like -50 to go back to normal lmao

at least on this latest agesa

that’s not how it worked before

[young void]

I also noticed after latest bios update alot of the pbo presets are super unstable

[shell void]

galactic emperor is speaking in 27 minutes

[young void]

Blessed be brother michael

[civic reef]

Why do board manufacturers hide the PCIe generation on the tech specs on their website

[topaz veldt]

Oh wild Drop is done

[civic reef]

Even more infuriating when it's hidden on the M.2 slot

Like
Is the slot a 2x2?? 2x4?? Or 3x2/4??

[wraith steeple]

Sound blaster in the year of our Lord, 2026?!

[green marsh]

@cosmic gazelleseems like LM Studio is very broken for usage with claude code. Running LM Studio as server with qwen3.5 35b on both Windows and Linux ended up failures with tool calling (seen reports on reddit about this being a case with many compounding bugs). Ollama with my 4080 Super ? Done the task in 30 minutes. Sure, it would have been done by cloud model in a minute or two, but hey, not bad. Might try llama.cpp later to see if i can have better model configuration (ollama offers zero configuration other than context length setting). But positively surprised it was actually a lm studio issue, not model. Maybe there is a chance for the 2x1080 Ti thing later down the line.

[cosmic gazelle]

grok summarize this tweet

jk 😉

[green marsh]

LOL

[green marsh]

LM Studio broken, Ollama working for claude code tool calling

[wraith steeple]

Justice for Aureal/Media Vision

https://tenor.com/view/angry-mob-gif-14429440838821613662

[topaz veldt]

ja ja ja was ist los was ist das

[shell void]

where is supreme galactic god emperor jensen huang?

it’s just been random people yapping about robots and self driving cars

[civic reef]

https://tenor.com/view/kingpin-kingpin-clicking-pen-clicking-pen-spider-verse-into-the-spider-verse-gif-5180708998338482135

Waiting for this fuckass war to end

I have a 5600 & X570 to buy

[devout ridge]

waiting for the ai bubble to pop so i can buy ram again

[civic reef]

I can buy RAM at $16 more than what I was going to pay originally

Though it's some kit from "Hiksemi" 💔

Not a "liquid-cooled" XPG kit for $50 </3

[brisk jolt]

dude exactly whys there a intermission

im up at 2am and dudes on some “yeah we teamed up with x companies for AI cars” as if we dont know thats their plan

[cosmic gazelle]

@young void so no setting is getting me to where i was before still, but enhancement l1 is the only thing getting my clocks to almost stay at 5225

i’m gonna see if i can nail down my per core offsets and make it a little better

[brisk jolt]

I want more SSDs and CUdimms for more OC

[young void]

Wishing luck, can be finicky sometimes

If running asus be sure to accept the oc terms and conditions in the advanced cpu tab, otherwise it myte not apply certain functions entirely. A weird thing I noticed with their boards

[cosmic gazelle]

i just managed to get 22661 which for a non-realtime run seems to be okay enough

so i think im gonna leave it there

[young void]

Also jensen has entered the stage*

Sounds good, fun lil chips

[cosmic gazelle]

for example this is what this person says

[shell void]

oh the god king supreme super galactic cosmic omnipotent emperor is speaking now

woah he’s talking about geforce 🗣️

[edgy laurel]

https://youtu.be/jw_o0xr8MWU

[shell void]

dlss 5

[edgy laurel]

DLSS5

[brisk jolt]

YOOOO DLSS 5

[edgy laurel]

holy fuck

[young void]

Ahhh shiiii

[edgy laurel]

this is like those AI image generation sites but worse

this is going to cause quite the backlash

using existing games

[shell void]

a few of the examples looked good but a lot of them didn’t

[brisk jolt]

instead of replicating they want to reshape it

[edgy laurel]

how this is used will be very important

[shell void]

i wonder if this will be 50 series exclusive using NVFP4

wouldn’t be surprising

[edgy laurel]

taking artists work and applying a driver level skin on things.. i dunno man.

[shell void]

i would imagine that the devs have to purposefully implement and tailor this

[edgy laurel]

Yeah, just the use of existing games was a little sus

[edgy laurel]

for this demo

[brisk jolt]

a lot of their faces in the example were overshined

[edgy laurel]

now he's just saying words

[young void]

Dell provides storage?

Oh nvm, industry storage

Where electric cost 2c

Yiss yiss it'll be deployed, all in good time

[shell void]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4ZlwTtgbgVA

a lot of these examples look like enabling dynamic contrast on a TV which i don’t like

[edgy laurel]

already know what people are going to say, especially artists

[young void]

I think it'll be fun to play with

But i see peeps issue with it

Secretly built for gta 6

[shell void]

like this one

DLSS 5 just looks like i flicked on dynamic contrast and i dont like it

[low sorrel]

already???

[low sorrel]

I don't like it

[steel stream]

i am not a fan

changes faces and characters too much

looks like you apply a snapchat filter

[shell void]

budget tv dynamic contrast lighting filter and tiktok face filters

[low sorrel]

I like the resident evil one ngl but the starfield example is questionable...

[steel stream]

yuh

[shell void]

it’s making everything blue too

it literally just looks like dynamic contrast, idk why they need a 5090 to run this

my westinghouse lcd tv could do this 15 years ago

[low sorrel]

actually the more i look at it the more uncanny valley it feels

[cosmic gazelle]

how much of the presentation has had nothing to do with AI so far

10%?

[shell void]

i worry that we’re not getting a ray reconstruction update

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-theres-nothing-thank-you-son-chris-griffin-peter-griffin-gif-16308152171798273645

[shell void]

https://tenor.com/view/case-oh-caseoh-flash-bang-gif-14288249271888208717

[steel stream]

yeah it's just a snapchat filter man

[shell void]

there was supposed to be a new chip at this keynote idk if he’s revealed it yet

i tuned out

[steel stream]

I don't see anything on videocardz so

[young void]

Facebook now requires an ID for marketplace, super lamee

[brisk jolt]

icl dlss5 looks like shit

hopefully the face thing at the very least is a separate feature

[steel stream]

it just reminds me of this old post

[shell void]

digital foundry said this neural lighting is an optional feature separate from upscaling and frame gen thankfully

[shell void]

yeah that’s close XD

[steel stream]

it's all I see man lol

[pure garnet]

that’s pretty close

[steel stream]

wait weren't you blue

[pure garnet]

it ran out

[steel stream]

rip

[pure garnet]

i haven’t used floatplane since scrapyard wars so i just got rid of it

[steel stream]

no more pilot chat for you

[pure garnet]

i dont think i ever used that channel

[lethal topaz]

i dont enjoy ltt enough to buy floatplane

[brisk jolt]

cant wait for ultra performance on every resolution to shit on fsr4 quality

[spiral quarry]

tbf right now pilot chat only has regulars that I chat with so not many new people in there.

[steel stream]

there are creators other than LTT I'd like to support on there but I try and keep subcriptions down to a minimum

[blazing ivy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZlwTtgbgVA

[lethal topaz]

agreed

[pure garnet]

who else is even on there

[lethal topaz]

theres a couple dozen i think

isnt ufd tech on there?

[blazing ivy]

in a way it is kinda next generational and transformative

[steel stream]

i forgot but I know they are on there

[pure garnet]

they needed 2

one for the game and one for the dlss 5 stuff

[shell void]

a whole 5090 just to emulate a dynamic contrast filter on a tv

[young void]

Tokens lol

[edgy laurel]

#tech-chat-2 message

[burnt mortar]

worst one has to be

[edgy laurel]

holy shit you're right

[burnt mortar]

the Grace comparison

[edgy laurel]

I'm anxious to see how this goes over but off the cuff, I kinda hate the whole concept.

[burnt mortar]

DLSS5 = Add AI Chracter, Remove Shading, Depth and lighting

at the cost of a 2nd 5090

[shell void]

i’m only still tuned in because he’s supposed to “unveil a new chip that will shock the world”

[blazing ivy]

totally a 6090 thing

[steel stream]

I saw the videocardz article, and the thumbnail activated a dormant memory in my mind

[edgy laurel]

I was excited about the use of generative AI for characters actions/speech, etc.. Not for a beauty filter.

[shell void]

so far we’ve only seen software

[burnt mortar]

I want someone to make a megacut of the amount of times he mentioned "Ai"

[shell void]

oh this could be it, he’s going through hardware history

[steel stream]

I can use the snapchat dog face filter and get the same effect

[shell void]

maybe feynman teaser time

[steel stream]

I hoped it's locked to 60 series 🙏

[brisk jolt]

“introducing 3gb gddr7 modules to the consumers- 5050 9gb-“

[edgy laurel]

the memes are fast

[shell void]

oh is the new chip this grok cache addition to rubin?

(not elons grok it’s a diff company)

POUNDING

really really hard

🗣️

[steel stream]

i think this deserves a pin tbh

[steel stream]

wat

[shell void]

mr jensen said that

[steel stream]

i think the jackets are going to his head

[shell void]

he said that the cache gets “pounded really really hard”

[steel stream]

I am currently learning about cache rn in class, Ill get back to you about that one

[civic reef]

What was that card from NVidia that was two chips on one PCB?

[blazing ivy]

think the way the AMD RX70 gpus but nvidia edtion at lease from the "die shots"

[civic reef]

RX 70?

Die shots??

[blazing ivy]

its technically rumours

[golden jungle]

anyone know about monitors?

[civic reef]

Watch a review

[young void]

What a cluster damnnn

[golden jungle]

i have found one that is good but i would like a second opinion

[brisk jolt]

watch even more reviews

[blazing ivy]

and rumors I mean MLID, so grain of salt

[civic reef]

Mhm

[pure garnet]

you're thinking of the gtx 690

[golden jungle]

often payed

[civic reef]

Oh yeah, that

[young void]

Notes log into snails Rubin ultra

[steel stream]

what's confusing about die shots

[young void]

Step 2 solve cosmic equations

[steel stream]

what monitor

[civic reef]

NVidia is going to release a 5090 configured like that and call it "DLSS 5 ready" lmao

[pallid marsh]

Y'all taking shots on a Monday?

[edgy laurel]

There were a few. https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-295-single-pcb.c4141
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-590.c281
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-690.c361
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-titan-z.c2575

[civic reef]

I don't have a single idea what those are

[steel stream]

it's photos of the silicon

[golden jungle]

ASUS TUF VG27AQL5A Quad HD 27

[civic reef]

Oh

[civic reef]

The Titan Z was a dual chip? That's interesting

[steel stream]

seems aight

[young void]

Thats right the more you buy

The more you save xD

[topaz veldt]

I just ordered qty 640 of 96GB 5600

[golden jungle]

thx

[pallid marsh]

Why not a second boat?

[topaz veldt]

for work

2nd hand...

[turbid locust]

wtf have you guys ever had FedEx ask you for paperwork stating your reasoning and use for a product you had shipped from overseas?

[steel stream]

here's a photo of an (edited) Zen 4 CCD

[pure garnet]

no

[turbid locust]

?????

[topaz veldt]

customs

Yes that is ordinary

Sounds like you're getting a customs fee

[pure garnet]

$600 fee on the wireview

[topaz veldt]

as soon as you say "computer part"

[pure garnet]

can you not say power monitor

[turbid locust]

bro wtf

[civic reef]

That looks awesome

[young void]

Current regulator lol

Its a uhh hrmm

[turbid locust]

this some bullshit

[steel stream]

this is a photo of unmodified silicon, which is what you will actually see when taking a CPU or GPU apart

[civic reef]

I've seen that before, but nothing this powerful

[steel stream]

that's just a pascal titan

wait no maxwell

[civic reef]

:3

[civic reef]

I am technically still right
The only PCB I've seen irl is that of a 1050 Ti

[turbid locust]

wtf do I even say to this the invoice they attached to the god damn email literally says what it is

[pure garnet]

the 7980xe die is so cool

[civic reef]

Void of doom & despair

[pure garnet]

18 cores

[civic reef]

Even more doom & despair

[turbid locust]

this is fucking bullshit just send me my shit

[civic reef]

Kill them

[turbid locust]

fucking fuck ass government overlords must know what I shipped from Germany

[shell void]

beloved big monolithic cpu

[turbid locust]

abolish the government

[steel stream]

it's actually maxwell so a bit older

[steel stream]

we NEED bartlett lake

[civic reef]

Titan X Maxwell is ± 2060 power allegedly

1050 Ti is well
A 1050 Ti

[brisk jolt]

Pipe b-

[turbid locust]

nah this is some actual braindead bullshit I’m actually annoyed

[steel stream]

yeah but no dlss so meh

I took the die now and it sits on a bookshelf

[civic reef]

Best use of that GPU today tbh

[turbid locust]

Want to wait till the day it’s supposed to be fuckin delivered to pull this shit

[steel stream]

you need killdozer.

[red cloak]

Anyone seen the dlss5.0 slop fest

[civic reef]

Oh btw
Does anyone want a $460 (minus shipping & customs) 3090

They're just being sold for that here by stores

[steel stream]

been there done that, already talked about

[brisk jolt]

nobody is gonna be using that shit till like next year and we’re already way past that

[red cloak]

Aw man

[pure garnet]

these have gone up in price

[civic reef]

Slopinator

[red cloak]

Hopefully no one uses it ever

[civic reef]

If you ever need to armour up your dozer, give me a call

[steel stream]

damn

[pure garnet]

do i go drive 20 miles to see a dozer

[civic reef]

We at the Phantom Ordnance & Armour Development Centre would love to aid you in your project

[steel stream]

I can't wait to stack DLSS ultra-performance, FG 6X and, DLSS 5 I can't wait

[civic reef]

15% discount, not including further discounts

[steel stream]

I actually quite like DLSS 5

[civic reef]

Wait question
How bad is DLSS on 20 series cards

[topaz veldt]

better than FSR

[pure garnet]

tensor model is a bit heavy but it's still playable

[merry stirrup]

DLSS isnt bad on 20 series cards

[steel stream]

real

[red cloak]

Its okay to be wrong

[merry stirrup]

i would for sure use it on CNN and not transformer but its doable

[civic reef]

Too right
FSR on my 5700 XT kills performance LMAO

[pallid marsh]

What about the Rtx 2060 6gb

[merry stirrup]

CNN

[steel stream]

wdym

[civic reef]

Tensor model is heavy?

[turbid locust]

FedEx I fucking hate you

[merry stirrup]

this guy is mad about dlss

[red cloak]

I hate pointless slopification

[steel stream]

wdym slop

[merry stirrup]

games running better isnt pointless

[pure garnet]

dlss 5 has an optional ai generative thing

which is kinda slop ngl but the upscaler improvements are welcome

[merry stirrup]

oh so disable it

[red cloak]

But dlss 5.0 explictely makes the game run worse though

[merry stirrup]

so dont use it

[brisk jolt]

yeah we used AI to upscale a game that isnt real and showcase optional features trying to showcase what we’re trying to do, boo

[red cloak]

Yeah just like ray tracing until it becomes mandatory

[merry stirrup]

rt still isnt mandatory

so idk what your point is

[red cloak]

On some games yes

[steel stream]

it comes out in like november man

[merry stirrup]

yeah bro because the 13 year olds still on gtx cards want to play indy so bad

[steel stream]

me when the product is unfinished

[civic reef]

@pure garnet OH do you mean that the Tensor operations are heavy on the first generation Tensor on RTX 20??

[red cloak]

They needed a wholeass 5090 to run this in real time

[steel stream]

its unfinished

[merry stirrup]

he was talking about transformer

[steel stream]

it's a work in progress

[red cloak]

You arent gonna be optimizing a 5090 worth of performance

[pure garnet]

there are 2 "branches" of dlss model, the transformer (idk why i said tensor sorry), and the old cnn one

[merry stirrup]

guys

[pure garnet]

the transformer model is more computationally heavy to run but looks better

[merry stirrup]

my boss let me take my old chair from work

[steel stream]

idk man I don't work at nvidia

[merry stirrup]

best day evar

new chair

[pure garnet]

floppa i applied for a job at my city government

[merry stirrup]

this is epic

[pure garnet]

5090 soon

[merry stirrup]

big monies?

i like this

[pure garnet]

it's okay, 60k a year

but pension/health insurance

[merry stirrup]

that means me and my gf will have matching pcs with 5070tis

[pure garnet]

im leaving the master vbios on this when you buy it

[red cloak]

Even if they doubled performance, which is close to physically impossible, it would still be a net performance loss

[merry stirrup]

so dont use it

[brisk jolt]

nobody is telling you to use it over 4.5 at all LMAO

[merry stirrup]

realistically yours would go in my daily unless mines a better bin which i doubt

[pure garnet]

did you do time spy

[merry stirrup]

i can try to flash the master vbios rn

[brisk jolt]

this dude is just out here bitchin about a WIP feature that got showcased

[pure garnet]

it won't work on the prime iirc

[merry stirrup]

no only steel nomad i think

[red cloak]

Why would they let us use two different versions of dlss

[merry stirrup]

you literally can

[red cloak]

Have they ever done that before

[brisk jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193840159358976/1481915275858415739/0AFC5196-3FC4-4100-B996-41EAF73ECCFD.gif

[merry stirrup]

right now

[brisk jolt]

forget 2 you can use like every fuckin DLSS version

[red cloak]

I actually dont know

[brisk jolt]

depending on what you literally specify

[red cloak]

Is it on a game level or driver level

[merry stirrup]

this guy has heard of the ai generational dlss but doesnt know about the other actual features

[steel stream]

path tracing is a net performance loss but I use it anyways

[merry stirrup]

its a driver level bro

[steel stream]

DLSS model override

[pure garnet]

the guy in this gif mad ugly wont lie

[merry stirrup]

waow

[brisk jolt]

thats a sidepoint of the story

dude’s meant to be ugly and helluva evil

[pure garnet]

wait it even larps in hwinfo

[red cloak]

Me after the dlss slop filter

[pure garnet]

time to just list it as a master fr

[civic reef]

Oh I'll have to check what a CNN model is, one second

[merry stirrup]

me holding this guy at gunpoint to use the ai slop feature

[turbid locust]

Me when I’ve never looked at a display with a resolution over 1080p

[brisk jolt]

there is a pipe bomb in your mailbox

[pure garnet]

it's the old method (conventual neural network)

[merry stirrup]

convolutional

[pure garnet]

🤓

[steel stream]

Floppa point it away please, I can't take this anymore

[merry stirrup]

brb pointing it at myself

[pure garnet]

floppa wtf is a crossbar

[red cloak]

Im happy this is where nivida spends their rnd money said no one

[pure garnet]

i could google this but im asking you bc this ai slop convo is boring

[turbid locust]

I’m late has this dude ever even used DLSS

[merry stirrup]

LOL this guy got the taxpayer perspective on nvidias product development

"why is my government doing this with my tax money"

[pure garnet]

i don't think they care man

[red cloak]

Oh I know

[merry stirrup]

in what sense

[steel stream]

Another 5 billion to R&D

[steel stream]

i can only think of car

[red cloak]

Anything to avoid putting extra vram

[pure garnet]

gpu crossbar shows up in hwinfo

[civic reef]

Yeah just googled it
Older DLSS model used in DLSS 1 & 2

[steel stream]

ah

[turbid locust]

How much do you think you need

[red cloak]

For what I do? As much as I can get

[pure garnet]

reeks of 6700xt owners club in here

[steel stream]

I NEED 24GB for 1080p man you don't understand

[civic reef]

Hopefully a 2080 Ti will be able to handle it well

[merry stirrup]

according to google its the interconnect between the sm's and memory and whatnot

which i believe

[turbid locust]

• I can’t tell if this dude is against AI or is literally an AI bro

[merry stirrup]

so i think like RX 7000 front end clock

[civic reef]

That card has good enough compute, good enough VRAM, and a great price to performance for what I need

[red cloak]

Vfx / color artist

[merry stirrup]

my ai girlfriend needs 16GB vram on the RTX 5060 for peak value

[pure garnet]

so buy a quadro

[steel stream]

My razer girlfriend told me to buy the 5090 for her

[merry stirrup]

trueee

[civic reef]

I've decided to take Floppa's advice (after initially going into critical condition from being yelled at) and simply getting something within my price range

[turbid locust]

Nvidia makes high vram cards idk

Idk where the confusion is

[brisk jolt]

I need to utilise my upcoming total of 64gb vram and do a AI girlfriend to eat up my resources and spike my bills up

[steel stream]

it's not like the competitors include more lol

[merry stirrup]

i still dont really understand the more vram argument

[steel stream]

AMD still has 8GB cards

[pure garnet]

i mean the 5060 8gb kinda blows but if it had 12 i'd be fine

[merry stirrup]

isnt there a high spec version of it

[civic reef]

5600 (none x unfortunately, and more expensive than the 5600x previously available) & X570, with the RAM being cheap enough that I don't need to wait or break the bank for purchase

This way I don't annoy everyone by constantly discussing stuff :>

[pure garnet]

just the ti

[merry stirrup]

oh ok

[civic reef]

They're definitely capable of making a 5060 12GB now with the 3GB chips

[pure garnet]

5060ti 16gb msrp is 429 iirc which just pushes against the 5070 though

[civic reef]

But nope, 5050 9GB 96Bit 💔

[turbid locust]

how many games are pushing above 8GB at 1080p

[merry stirrup]

0

/really not many besides triple a like alan wake tlou2 maybe

re games love to allocate vram

[pure garnet]

there's a few bigger titles where 12gb would make the card perform better

[merry stirrup]

but realistically how many of them are in the top 1000 on steam even

[brisk jolt]

yessir I need my native path tracing and MFG x4 on my 5060

[red cloak]

Artists are well known to be millionaires

[civic reef]

Unless they're some very unoptimised games, high intensity games, and/or you use ultra graphics or RT, I doubt there's any

Most games usually use 5-7GB from what I've seen

[merry stirrup]

nobodys forcing the 5060 owners to use ultra settings

[turbid locust]

There’s been two times where I hit a vram limit and it was on RE4 remake with a 3070 at 1440p Max, and Indiana Jones on a 5070Ti at 4K Pathtracing and MFG lmao

[pure garnet]

wait valorant is making my gpu draw 300w with an undervolt 💀

[pallid marsh]

Instead of super skus can Nvidia get rid of both 5060ti 8/16gb skus and make it a 12 gb 5060ti

[turbid locust]

how

[civic reef]

Sometimes pushing into 200 megabytes from maxing out the 8 gigglebits of VRAM, but usually not maxing out

[brisk jolt]

reducing graphic settings? never heard of it

[civic reef]

RIOT is mining on your GPU ❤️

[pure garnet]

i forgot my profile doesn't apply by default yet

that would be my fault

[turbid locust]

Regardless my gpu idles that game

[brisk jolt]

4k max graphics on valorant

[pure garnet]

yeah im doing it on purpose rn

[civic reef]

Depending on the CPU you can probably plug your video cable into the MB and not notice

[brisk jolt]

why the fuck does mine love eating 220w on it then

[turbid locust]

Me when I use uncapped framerates to be a worse experience

[steel stream]

https://x.com/mrpyo1/status/2033625526288478546?s=46

Pyo 5️⃣ (@mrpyo1)

This is crazy, DLSS 5 OFF and ON, on God of war Kratos

X · Mar 16, 2026, 7:24 PM

[turbid locust]

you probably run uncapped like a goober

[brisk jolt]

i run it at my monitor’s max refresh rate 💀

[pure garnet]

330w in the tac shooter goes kinda hard

[edgy laurel]

these are going to keep getting better

[merry stirrup]

gpu limiter is telling you that you need more volts kyok

[civic reef]

One thing I am dreading about going back to NVidia is seeing what NVidia GeForce Experience turned into now

[shell void]

4K max?

[turbid locust]

which is

[civic reef]

Since I've seen people calling it buggy

[pure garnet]

4k max except 2x msaa

[merry stirrup]

2x msaa this guy knows ball

[steel stream]

just use the nvidia app

[brisk jolt]

1440p 360

[pure garnet]

these are the settings i daily in this game just normally with an fps cap

[edgy laurel]

GFE was discontinued a while ago

[civic reef]

Tbh I'd say 4x is worth turning some settings

[turbid locust]

5090 should idle that lmfao

[steel stream]

im waiting to see a reinvented one of Aloy, that will be a good level of irony lol

[civic reef]

I am still used to calling it that

[brisk jolt]

yeah funnily it doesnt whilst the 5070Ti barely eats 100w

[shell void]

bloom and distortion? o_o

[turbid locust]

do you just have +3000 vram perma

I don’t think I’ve ever seen my 5090 break 100W in Val at 4K 138

[brisk jolt]

yeah

[pure garnet]

i suck so i just turn on all the eye candy

[civic reef]

Bloom doesn't seem too bad

[turbid locust]

well there’s a start lmao

[edgy laurel]

you'd be surprised what an uncapped framerate will do

[civic reef]

Neither does distortion, though I haven't seen that personally

[turbid locust]

Supposedly Setsuna caps to 360 at 1440p

[merry stirrup]

all these x3d owners and their gpu limit with a 5090

[brisk jolt]

jesus christ vram causing a 100w diff is epic work

[civic reef]

4K 138?

Why such specific FPS

[merry stirrup]

aint no way

maybe 12-20 at most

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/my-goals-are-beyond-your-understanding-reverse-flash-eobard-thawne-the-flash-gif-16637212

[civic reef]

Fair enough

[brisk jolt]

yeah I saw it like fkin 10w diff lmao

[civic reef]

I do not, sorry 💔

[edgy laurel]

if you're curious, there are specific caps based on display max refresh you should be setting to ensure the smoothest, lowest latency operation while using VRR

[brisk jolt]

i uninstalled valorant on my 9950x3d sytem xd

[steel stream]

Guilty you've got to join the 138 gang

[civic reef]

Well, if they're using a 144Hz, I'd say 140 or 135 would be best, but 138 is oddly specific

139 makes sense because it's 5 FPS off max RR

[turbid locust]

btw @shell void my 2700Mhz @ 885mv tune crashed after like 5 hours yesterday

[steel stream]

138 is the optimal value for 144

[edgy laurel]

140 would not be good. If you want the full math, here you go. https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1lokih2/putting_misconceptions_about_optimal_fps_caps/

[edgy laurel]

its 139 now, apparently.

[steel stream]

7

[civic reef]

One second, reading

[turbid locust]

[brisk jolt]

138 is now suboptimal mac

[pure garnet]

yeah val just made mine act up

[brisk jolt]

you need it

[pure garnet]

i don’t wanna lose freq so i’ll go up 25mv

[steel stream]

damn

[turbid locust]

This is some cap

[shell void]

down to 65W with a cap xD

[pure garnet]

(60 of that is vram)

[merry stirrup]

yeah but you have a grody 144 display

[edgy laurel]

in terms of tearing, it is correct. doesn't mean you have to do it

[steel stream]

Oh C6 is 165Hz this year

[merry stirrup]

wow thats helping tons

[turbid locust]

Helldivers 2 is what did mine. But I don’t think it’s cause my card can’t do 2700 @ 850mv, I think it’s cause how I have to set the curve to get it to actually do 2700. TUF bios is goofy as shit.

[steel stream]

I just want to see C6 42 brightness

[brisk jolt]

I need to launch valorant and see how much it actually takes with my current UV lmao

[shell void]

yeah it's only like 25W core power XD

[turbid locust]

I used to play Val with uncapped and I could see the microstutter/tearing when I bounced between 1000 and 700/600 for example

[shell void]

the rest is lost elsewhere in the card

[turbid locust]

Depending on what happened in the scene

[shell void]

screen tearing visibility is mostly dictated by refresh rate and display size

42" is big and 144Hz is slow so screen tearing can be obvious

[wise bear]

eee

[civic reef]

This was actually really useful, thank you

[edgy laurel]

the large swings probably weren't helping

[turbid locust]

Even back when I was on 1440p 27”

[civic reef]

It'll be very helpful to put into effect once I upgrade la Graphique Processor

[brisk jolt]

imma turn in bruh its 4 am

[pure garnet]

okay im getting skill issued by afterburner again

[wise bear]

go to bed nerd

[shell void]

im not bothered by tearing on normal sized 240Hz+ monitors

[civic reef]

RR * RR / 4096

[pure garnet]

which half the thing am i holding shift for

the vf range i want or the rest

[turbid locust]

Idk man all I know is properly config’d Reflex + vsync + cap setup is BUTTER and nobody can stop me

[edgy laurel]

apart from CS2, apparently

[turbid locust]

Nah CS2 works now

[edgy laurel]

I think I still preferred the feel of uncapped but it was marginal

in that game only (I also have like 15 minutes experience so whatever)

[turbid locust]

It’s just that Gsync only works for me if I’m in fullscreen exclusive

[fringe vigil]

has anyone pre purchased crimson desert?

[civic reef]

Did the equation, and my current optimal RR is 73, interesting

[pure garnet]

the 5070ti doesn’t enjoy 3500mhz on windows desktop

[civic reef]

Equation was:
75 - (75 * 75 ÷ 4096)

[shell void]

i think classic oldschool vsync looks the best if you can get static framerate, but the latency at 144Hz is bananas

[civic reef]

= 73.626

[edgy laurel]

no, but i'm interested. I never seem to enjoy games developed by japanese/south korean developers but we'll see

[fringe vigil]

It’s giving me AC vibes

[edgy laurel]

ya, and i'm always down for that

[fringe vigil]

AC but open world fantasy

[turbid locust]

I will change to 139fps when I get home today

[edgy laurel]

expect it to be earth shattering

[turbid locust]

I will

[merry stirrup]

i just let the computer compute as hard as it can

[green marsh]

wish i had two 16GB cards to throw at this, but oh well, i ain't buying 1.2-2.4k worth of GPUs for this, by then i might as well buy online coding services instead at much cheaper rate overall 😄

[civic reef]

Night and day difference, like replacing your glasses

[merry stirrup]

no reason for me to cap on the 360hz monitor

[turbid locust]

I like when my computer shuts the fuck up personally so

[merry stirrup]

im always in gsync

[civic reef]

Like running 1080p and switching to 1200p

[pure garnet]

okay i think i figured it out

[pallid marsh]

People need glasses?

[civic reef]

Or, or
Running 720p and switching to 768p

[merry stirrup]

yeah bro if i cap to 350 im losing 6w

[edgy laurel]

amen

[merry stirrup]

i dont get over 360 in the first place, so im always in gsync anyways

apex cant even go over 300

[civic reef]

I.. Don't understand?
This seems like a satirical, comedic question, but I don't see the comedic value?

[turbid locust]

I couldn’t live with buying a 360hz monitor and not playing games at 360hz

[edgy laurel]

it wasn't funny

[merry stirrup]

you have a 144 monitor and play games at 138hz

[turbid locust]

which is optimal

[edgy laurel]

139, floppa. comon!

[merry stirrup]

so

[civic reef]

Oh

[pure garnet]

i run vrr off

[merry stirrup]

because i have a 360hz monitor all my games should be locked at only 355fps

[turbid locust]

I hate all of you

[merry stirrup]

is the 5090 getting 355 capped in tarkov

[pallid marsh]

As a good eyesight person I don't get the comparison of getting new glasses

[pure garnet]

if vrr had an adjustable range where i could lock it to 100hz+ i'd use it

[edgy laurel]

well i think you're pretty neat

[merry stirrup]

i also use vrr off on my desktop

i have gsync on for games

[pure garnet]

but there is never a single scenario where i would EVER want my monitor below 100hz

[merry stirrup]

^

[shell void]

i went back to VRR off again too because id rather not limit my rendered framerate while using framegen just to fit in the VRR window because that hurts latency and increases artifacting

[civic reef]

Oh
I'll give a personal anecdote

[low sorrel]

NVCP cap just doesn't work in valorant for me

[edgy laurel]

hehe, you'd hate 4K AAA gaming 😆

[turbid locust]

Thank you guilty

[pallid marsh]

Inside our ww3 bunker to save power

[turbid locust]

NV app cap bro

[pure garnet]

i just finished re9 with rt on in the 3 digit frame rates for most of my place through

[edgy laurel]

but i'm also afflicted by the inability to turn settings down from Ultra

[cosmic gazelle]

kyoko got defloatplaned

[merry stirrup]

see this is why i dont play 4k

[turbid locust]

DLSS just fixes all this

[merry stirrup]

1440p 360 and 4k 144 are different trees

[turbid locust]

I never play a game not at 120+

[pure garnet]

i am fortunate enough to be able to use a setting below the max

[turbid locust]

ever

[edgy laurel]

not always, but most of the time

[pure garnet]

i cancelled it yeah

[edgy laurel]

for a poor 4090

[turbid locust]

If I can’t tell the difference between high and ultra it’s going to high

[edgy laurel]

see my brain tricks me into thinking I can tell

[turbid locust]

spood

[merry stirrup]

whole buncha jumping spiders outside and one made it in

like legit i saw like 20 of em

[pure garnet]

vanguard does not start when the gpu driver crashes

interesting

[turbid locust]

I need LG to give me my 5K 240hz TV

[pallid marsh]

He must know your house is full of flies and other bugs

[pure garnet]

5k tv is cope won't lie

[shell void]

oh fuh no

[pure garnet]

not a normal res

[edgy laurel]

this could be you https://youtu.be/4d5tv13Hq1U

[turbid locust]

I know

I would go 8K 240 in a heartbeat if there was a card that could even display that

[edgy laurel]

it will neverhappen

[merry stirrup]

hes cute

that is one of the bigger jumping spiders ive seen tho

[turbid locust]

It’s just I don’t see myself ever using a regular monitor again

And I know for damn sure I’m not gonna use an UW

[edgy laurel]

i'm torn. TV's are just cheaper but I miss UW

[low sorrel]

explain this

[edgy laurel]

And I have yet to make a monitor purchase in my life that wasn't higher resolution than the last one

[merry stirrup]

does nobody use RTSS

[turbid locust]

set it in game then goofass

[low sorrel]

it gets weird frame drops then

[turbid locust]

I have an immediately regretted it

[civic reef]

@pallid marsh

TL;DR AT BOTTOM

I have Hyperopia / Farsightedness (Which is a condition where far objects are {relatively} clear, but close objects are blurry) - And I usually change glasses about every year or so, sometimes every two years (I visit the opthalmologist once a year usually)

One time though, I had to postpone my visit because of odd circumstances - Which meant I had to wait longer until I could my eyes checked again, and potentially change glasses

My glasses were becoming nigh-useless, to the point that I had to take them off in class to see further out, and put them back on to write down what I saw

The comparison I made is because, once I got new glasses, it was like the world changed
I could see clearly at distances previously obscured, both with & without glasses - Even colours were more vibrant, like I switched to OLED but irl

TL;DR I have Farsightedness, and getting new glasses let me see stuff so much clearer, and colours so much more vibrant

[merry stirrup]

idk i had 2 1440p's

[low sorrel]

it's like the pacing is off

[merry stirrup]

i have my S2716DG next to me

[turbid locust]

then cry Jerry idk

[merry stirrup]

lock your gpu clock

your 3060 is probably downclocking when you turn on the fps limit

[low sorrel]

doesn't reflex on + boost do that

[edgy laurel]

though my average time between main monitor purchases has been ~6 years

[merry stirrup]

oh idk

[lethal topaz]

4k on a 3060 is wild i couldnt

ill stick to 1440p

[merry stirrup]

i got the s27 like 3 years ago i think

[edgy laurel]

jerry is built different

[civic reef]

4K on Project Zomboid maybe lmao

[lethal topaz]

nah he playing arc raiders on 4k

[civic reef]

Bloody hell

[merry stirrup]

its realistically pretty possible

[civic reef]

What DLSS setting?

Performance? Balanced?

[merry stirrup]

3060 should do 4k at 60 frames in most games nowadays with all the tech it has access to

[low sorrel]

In dlss performance we trust

[merry stirrup]

it just doesnt make sense for competitive shooters

[low sorrel]

It looks fucking great

[lethal topaz]

bro dlss is actually magic tho

i changed from fsr 2.2 to dlss and i doubled my framerate and my game looked better

[low sorrel]

To be fair balanced and performance have basically the same render resolution

What is it 56% vs 50?

[pure garnet]

58%

[civic reef]

DLSS is a great technology by design
It's supposed to help you get more performance out of an older card, or have the option to turn up resolution, settings, or both

What it isn't though is an optimisation crutch

[lethal topaz]

i think lossless scaling sucks ngl

[shell void]

you know you want a 39" 1500R 5120x2160p 165Hz glossy tandem w-oled monitor

[lethal topaz]

that or im using it wrong

[wraith steeple]

[lethal topaz]

tandem is so fucking good

[edgy laurel]

I do, i just don't wanna pay for it

[civic reef]

Whuh is exactly what the Lands on the Border IV people are trying to make it out to be

[lethal topaz]

i want a g5 now as my tv

[shell void]

fair enough i bet itll be crazy expensive with the asus glossy tax

[turbid locust]

this but not in stupid mode

[lethal topaz]

trueblack glossy vs 2023 qd oled

[low sorrel]

No what you want is an 52" 800r 5120x2160p 240hz bendable tandem oled

[lethal topaz]

the coating is so good

[civic reef]

WTF
Mojtaba L Khamenai is doing an interview on Local Television 💔

[edgy laurel]

$800 (or less) for the outgoing C series model that year is a pretty nice deal

[civic reef]

He speaks great Arabic too wow
His dad had a visible Persian accent but Mojtaba sounds like a native speaker almost

[shell void]

ngl neither of them look good in this photo, but the ambient contrast of tandem woled is nice

i know that it's an overexposed off-angle photo that exaggerates the fresnel effect

[tepid mason]

damn dlss 5 looks ike a chat gpt image

[low sorrel]

When tf

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/03/apple-introduces-airpods-max-2-powered-by-h2/

[lethal topaz]

yeah i cant get a good photo that doesnt make both look really good or both really bad

[civic reef]

Why do people want Glossy screens
Isn't eliminating reflections what people want

[lethal topaz]

diffused vs direct reflections

[shell void]

i prefer black mirrors

[low sorrel]

I have a light controlled room

[civic reef]

No I mean, in general

[lethal topaz]

if you have an environment with few reflections glossy only gives better clarity

[civic reef]

Oh

So it's a pretty situational sort of display

[lethal topaz]

it doesnt look like oil was smudged all over your monitor

[wraith steeple]

They're an ethnic Azeri too

Mojtaba and his father

[civic reef]

Wait nvm that's not Mojtaba

Looks like him though
Like a younger ver

[turbid locust]

Ok so what’s the deal with DLSS 5

[civic reef]

Azeri?

[tepid mason]

looks ai

[civic reef]

Oh Azerbaijani

[wraith steeple]

Yep they make up the second largest ethnic group in Iran

[lethal topaz]

🤯

[civic reef]

Didn't know that, interesting

[wise bear]

...

[civic reef]

Eitherway, this guy on TV looks alot like him lmao

[tepid mason]

why would they release this dlss 5 trailer

[civic reef]

I don't know Mojtaba's exact details well so I thought it was him

[wise bear]

dude you do realize that DLSS, framegen, and all those other technologies are just.. ai, right?

[turbid locust]

The AI looks AI?

[civic reef]

What's Mojtaba doing in Lebanon doing an interview / podcast on Al Manar man 💔

[lethal topaz]

guys i think chatgpt is using ai to generate responses

[turbid locust]

Deadass just looks like better lighting

[tepid mason]

but ai ai it looks like

[wise bear]

ok so you're just stupid, got it

[tepid mason]

i could ask grok to create me this image bruh

[civic reef]

I genuinely don't get what's the issue

[low sorrel]

Yes

[tepid mason]

it doesnt look natural in some of the stuff thry showed it looks really good but grace looks ai generated

[wise bear]

its almost like its a fucking VIDEO GAME

[shell void]

nah some of these examples are pretty bad

[low sorrel]

I think he means that it looks too much like stable diffusion

[edgy laurel]

peyton woke up and chose violence

[lethal topaz]

that does look quite bad

[tepid mason]

this looks good on the other hand

[edgy laurel]

those stable diffusion model sites, they all look like these samples. I hate it.

[edgy laurel]

its all in the model used, if my personal stable diffusion experience is anything to go by.

also they should have shown off some of those in motion

[steel stream]

glossy allows for the cleanest/clearest possible display. Matte puts this weird layer on top of your screen, when glossy is a direct view

[shell void]

this is a downgrade IMO

it just looks like dynamic contrast and cold tint

[tepid mason]

it does look more realistic

[shell void]

digital foundry's video did have some in-motion examples

[pallid marsh]

How is the dlss 5 hair?

[turbid locust]

Nvidia Hairworks bro

[shell void]

another downgrade

[edgy laurel]

Nothing grinds my gears like those "realism" reshades. Looks like one of those.

[low sorrel]

same thing

[steel stream]

Minecraft ultimate texture + shader pack. Is this real life?

[tepid mason]

no it looks way better

[pure garnet]

how is stripping ambient lightning way better

[shell void]

the 50iq drones that leave their tvs in vivid mode will like this

[tepid mason]

it looks realistic idk what yall on about

[pure garnet]

like the resident evil demo was shit because it didnt even look like resident evil anymore

it was just a generic city

[steel stream]

vivid mode + cold 50 🔥

[edgy laurel]

pain

[shell void]

it removed the fog and turned grace into a random ai generated blonde girl off of google images xD

[steel stream]

yeah but there's realism to a point ya know? why would i do this when I could just go outside

[shell void]

i dont think it looks more realistic

i think it just looks like a tv in sports/vivid mode

with dynamic contrast and cold whitepoint

[steel stream]

part of the charm of games is what the devs do with their resources

[blazing ivy]

I want to see what devs do with DLSS5 ngl

[edgy laurel]

somehow desaturating everything is "real"

[pure garnet]

almost impluse bought

[pallid marsh]

3rd party seller?

[wraith steeple]

Yoo wtf

[pure garnet]

yeah 3rd party and mislabeled as in stock

[shell void]

xd

[tepid mason]

it looks better

[wraith steeple]

Ah then yep that adds up

[edgy laurel]

this shit. you see people trying to pull this kinda thing all the time. https://youtu.be/bh6T33v4bKI

that looks TERRIBLE

[edgy laurel]

i dont know what you're referring to

[tepid mason]

it looks better

[pure garnet]

okay so windows dynamic lighting is the only party of my computer that still knows my gpu is from msi

surprised that didn't break

[pallid marsh]

The dlss 5 ai girlfriend look is pretty sick

[edgy laurel]

so you're just trolling. got it.

[steel stream]

ultra realistic reshade but not uploading in HDR smh

[tepid mason]

guys i saw this cool case i wanna get in like a month

[edgy laurel]

reshade is a scourge when used incorrectly

[shell void]

i found the Guts shotgun in Cyberpunk just now on accident and it's quite amusing

[wraith steeple]

[tepid mason]

thats rebeccas

[edgy laurel]

this is another great example. @shell void https://youtu.be/3y7ADlwrw0c

every single one of these looks the same. ripping the whole look of a game away to this make way for this drab, gray look

[shell void]

making everything blue-grey and blowing it out is realism bro trust me

[edgy laurel]

so dumb

[steel stream]

yeah this looks terrible

[tepid mason]

i like the saturated colors in cyberpunk

i saw a reshade once

[low sorrel]

Reshade modders are the same people who made the GTA 4 colors

[pallid marsh]

I want a gta 4 remaster

[steel stream]

i think most reshaders are colorblind and compensating

[low sorrel]

Hi I'm colorblind

[pallid marsh]

Is that why you TK so often?

[low sorrel]

Unironically it should stop me from tking

[pallid marsh]

Lmao

[turbid locust]

[low sorrel]

I think this is the least bad dlss 5 image I've seen

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/dlss5-breakthrough-in-visual-fidelity-for-games/nvidia-dlss-5-ea-sports-fc-geforce-rtx-comparison-screenshot-001/

[pallid marsh]

Amazing

[low sorrel]

Thanks

[pallid marsh]

It made the ball blue wtf

[low sorrel]

I did not move the slider all the way to the left

WTF WHY IS THE BALL BLUE

[pallid marsh]

The tiktok ad text on the wall has a blue tint too

I think it gave all the white things a blue tint

[wraith steeple]

DLSS 5 Off vs DLSS 5 On:

[karmic pendant]

rtx 4060 or 5050?

[shell void]

if they’re the same price then 5050

same performance and vram with a newer feature set

[inland dome]

DLSS5 On wouldn't look that good, at least that image is actually a real thing

[edgy laurel]

another thing this is going to do is further give DLSS a bad name. We know FG and SR are fantastic but the jokes will forever now be about this while the clueless think its just all the same thing

[shell void]

yeah especially for DLSS5

[edgy laurel]

this stuff shouldn't be under the Deep Learning Super Sampling name

[shell void]

people will dismiss DLSS 5 framegen and upscaling models because of this

[inland dome]

I already decided to

[shell void]

that being said; if you’re buying new then 5060Ti 8GB is a far better value than 5050 and 5060 in the USA

[edgy laurel]

Well, you're missing out on same absolutely game changing features that work incredibly well.

[inland dome]

Unless I can turn the "enhancements" off completely, I'm sticking to dlss4.5

I'm very lax with ai features, thats why I have a 5070ti to begin with, but producing a different image is not it

[edgy laurel]

Referring to SR and FG specifically

[shell void]

according to digital foundry the neural lighting is a separately controllable feature

[inland dome]

Damn well better be on the player side too

[edgy laurel]

which isn't surprising. all the "parts" under DLSS are effectively independent now

[inland dome]

I'm hoping its independent at least

[shell void]

i like that nvidia keeps old models accessible in the nvidia app

[low sorrel]

How much faster is the 4070 super vs the og 4070

[inland dome]

Especially if it could be set specifically to objects you actually do want "enhanced", I think they do stone and stuff fine if the game is meant to actually look realistic

[edgy laurel]

What we need to see is how this new thing (i'm not calling it DLSS5) will be implemented. Enabled as simply part of a game from new, there is no fallback. Or something people can turn on

[fading steppe]

What is DLSS? Like Video Camera Encoder settings for gaming and monitors, "Display".

[edgy laurel]

oh boy lol

[wraith steeple]

[inland dome]

My fear is that its going to be used by developers as an excuse to not even do good textures anymore, I fear DLSS was a big reason for the optimization crisis because "you can just upscale"

[pallid marsh]

Like 20% at 4k

[inland dome]

Look at black myth wukong for example, its a beautiful game, but you need a ridiculous graphics card and to upscale just to hit 60fps

[low sorrel]

Why do I actually kinda want this

[fading steppe]

3D Graphics Resolution Upgrade. Ultra Realistic Visuals like you're just there.

[low sorrel]

800 cad ( 600 usd)

[edgy laurel]

Well, I wish that was an easier question to answer these days. Its a collection of tools that pertain to output image rendering and performance. An upscaler, a denosier, a frame generation feature and apparently, as of today, some sort of 3D model beauty filter.

[inland dome]

Now imagine it also looked terrible without those "enhancements"

[pure garnet]

Find God

[edgy laurel]

the first three are pretty fantastic