tech-chat-2

[upper horizon]

I had bought 3 for 300$ CAD a year ago 😭

[edgy laurel]

anyway, my point was MB Neo doesn't replace iPads for people who want/use/like iPads. MacOS is a whole different animal

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean i have to have a phone though i don’t have to have an ipad

also when apple denies my gfs like gen 2 ipad pro because it has backlight bleed that is a result of THEIR shitty design it makes me sour about ipads

but that’s just a crotchety old man take

[edgy laurel]

either you want a "computer" or you want a tablet. My mom hasn't used a "computer" in 20 years, but lives on her iPads

[cosmic gazelle]

i genuinely feel like this is a negative thing for a lot of seniors

we’re enabling a lack of attempting to understand technology and dumbifying everything

(not targeted at your mom just in a general sense)

[edgy laurel]

I disagree completely. There is nothing she needs or wants from a traditional computer, there is zero benefit to her owning one.

[cosmic gazelle]

lack of cognitive engagement is a direct contributor to neurodegenerative diseases and i oppose any contribution to that

[edgy laurel]

Forcing seniors to use caveman style traditional computers is not a benefit to anyone.

[edgy laurel]

Ok I think you might be heavily overthinking this.

[tawny summit]

Fair enough. I guess all I can do for now is wait and see what comes next in the next 5 years.

MacBooks getting a touchscreen I can see being a total no-go, but I think macOS being touch-capable for iPads isn't too sacrilegious knowing iPadOS has been copping Mac features for the past five years.

[cosmic gazelle]

i’m not, this is my field of study lol

i know the data

[pure garnet]

my mom uses a laptop with literally everything only chrome installed

as does my grandmother, if they used a tablet nothing would change

the average person isn’t really interacting with the computer like it’s the 80s anymore and you needed to know basic

[tawny summit]

or the other question: which is harder? Giving iPadOS more desktop-ready features or getting macOS touch-ready?

At least if we start from the year iPadOS got more desktop-like features

Either way

[keen wigeon]

Sparks!

[tawny summit]

I'll come back to laughing at Windows for pratfalling their ARM transition

[tawny summit]

for clustering, I assume?

Or wait no right those are for individual users

[keen wigeon]

I dunno. Stuff?

Just a stack of sparks 🙂

[shell void]

im so happy for you

[keen wigeon]

they're not mine

they're for GTC things

[fervent scaffold]

What do you all think my chances are of finding someone willing to trade my non rgb ram for rgb ram in the same specs lmao

[edgy laurel]

not really worth their time

they can just turn the RGB off if they don't want it. i'm not going out of my way and incur downtime just to swap with someone

sell it, buy what you want

[fervent scaffold]

It was more sarcasm, I wouldn’t even attempt

[pallid marsh]

I will laugh if they trade you dummy dimms

[pure garnet]

is it a 2x24 8000 kit

[fervent scaffold]

Its a 1x8gb ddr5 kit (sarcasm)

[pure garnet]

oh real

sell it to jerry

[civic reef]

I should buy a Quest 3S or something and commission an avatar ver of my fursona

[brave panther]

What would happen if one “fell of the truck “

[low sorrel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/1rtscsw/cpu_amd_fx9590_5ghz_8_core_processor_20061/

yooo finally a deal

[shell void]

i should put it in my gigabyte am3+ board that has like 3 vcore phases, and blow up the board on purpose

[vagrant gust]

Damn can I have one?

[green marsh]

too late to the party https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zTzpYjQ2MM

[wraith steeple]

AMD FX moment

[edgy laurel]

something else was wrong if the VRM is bursting into flames during a POST lol

[green marsh]

i would say it shorted out and then the fire is result of the short. I see actual fire from a shorted computer part

[green marsh]

also these boards didn't had any kind of protection at all, also at the time of video there was no TDP limit menioned on product page, that is why the website from which this video was taken did the test

[edgy laurel]

ok so there was something that led to that

a days worth of multicore benching

[teal hound]

can't believe apple is the least shitty company right now

[edgy laurel]

that makes no sense

[pallid marsh]

They just have a long term ram contract , and their ram/SSD prices where already way more then consumer options before ai

[pure garnet]

they also purchase significantly more volume than other companies

[pallid marsh]

Like in the billions if I recall

Dollar wise

[pure garnet]

yeah i mean figure everything they make uses ram

[pallid marsh]

Not the $999 monitor stand xD

[pure garnet]

next gen will

m2 in the wheels

[pallid marsh]

Robotic $3999 monitor stand

[shell void]

@edgy laurel @turbid locust https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKPSlWpaQ4s
CITRUS

[turbid locust]

fire

reconsidering linux challenge

I kinda dont want to nerf my computer for a month

[edgy laurel]

I've watched a few. I dunno if I need that goofball's opinion 🤣

[edgy laurel]

see thats kinda the whole point though. when in need, can you figure out how to "make it work"

[turbid locust]

Or I could just keep windows

[edgy laurel]

I mean yeah, thats what we're all doing lol

[pure garnet]

honestly you have like 3 computers worth of parts, just toss one together and try it on that

[shell void]

hey now what's with the riley slander?

[turbid locust]

doesnt feel like a real challenge then

[pure garnet]

there’s not really much of a challenge to it anyway

you install steam and proton works 95% of the time

the other 5% you apply manual fixes or the game just flat out doesn’t run

[teal orbit]

but that takes brain

Linux sucks

[green marsh]

i read about something few minutes ago and found out i was loading models incorrectly, actually surprised how much better can the LLM run on single 16GB card (4080 Super), if the model is MOE model. I mean it's not great, but 'for free' i could let that dual 1080 Ti system work in background when i want something done. Will be interesting to test it next week (due the case order the delivery will be tomorrow)

[hoary hatch]

Yeah don't do that

[shell void]

the challenge for mac is not being allowed to play valorant for a month

i havent played valorant in about 2 months and my mental health is better off

[turbid locust]

I was half using it to force me to play some other games lol

[pallid marsh]

If only ltt has a apple dedicated channel

[shell void]

sad days, mac address had higher quality and was more engaging to me

[spiral quarry]

lol that was me with cachyos on that spare system. Trying to make it work with some of my games

That I gave up on since the hassle wasn’t worth it with my limited free time

[turbid locust]

exactly

[spiral quarry]

Anyways went under my parents car yesterday to take pictures for insurance, goddamn the thieves were clean cutting the catalytic converter

[pure garnet]

straight pipe time

[spiral quarry]

1zz-fe definitely got a interesting sound straight piped looking at some videos

[cosmic gazelle]

why not just start the car for funsies

[cosmic gazelle]

are you not just using lms and hitting “load model” lol

[green marsh]

i was playing with GPU Offload (no need, it will only load as much as needed onto GPU) and more importantly there is a "Number of layers for which to force MoE weights onto CPU" -- i had to play around with that, but with i think 24 or so it runs at ~22t/s with total memory requirements of ~30GB. Which is a nice speed considering i only got 16GB VRAM GPU.

[topaz veldt]

Glacial box is heavy AF wtf did they put in here

[pure garnet]

you bought the glacial?

[topaz veldt]

Ya

[shell void]

greatness

it's so stacked

[edgy laurel]

there needs to be a waterblock that uses that connection

[pure garnet]

that board has dual x870e chipsets if i remember right

so 4 prom 21s

[shell void]

there are

[edgy laurel]

think just 2?

[pure garnet]

each e is 2 together though

[edgy laurel]

oh yeah I know about that AIO, i mean a standalone

[edgy laurel]

how is it any different than any other X870E though?

[pure garnet]

i thought it had dual x870e

i was misinformed from the review i read a month ago

it’s 2 x870 chipsets but the written comment was x870e

so i assumed it had 4 total chipsets

[edgy laurel]

ah. yeah I mean X670, X670E and X870E all have just two chips

this link needs to not be 4.0 in the future

[shell void]

there should be some boards that have no chipset at all, and only 2 dimm slots for people that want something cheap

[pure garnet]

hey if it’s good enough for the memory

[shell void]

a lot of people dont even need one promontory

[edgy laurel]

what is the bandwidth of Z890's DMI interface these days

[shell void]

iirc it's 4.0x8

[edgy laurel]

double

then again, they don't care about PCIe slots anymore

[shell void]

Z990 (nova lake) keeps the same bandwidth by doing 5.0x4 dmi

[pure garnet]

yeah do we even need a chipset on budget boards

[shell void]

i wonder if X970E boards will still be using Promontory 21

[pure garnet]

idk what the sio thing is but

that’s basically everything you’d need

[shell void]

i think a lot of people would be down to save like $50 on a basic board with no chipset

[pure garnet]

apparently its the borderline useless monitoring chip this board has

[edgy laurel]

unless they change the bandwidth from the CPU, I can't see why theyd change

[pure garnet]

that just vomits out voltages nobody cares about

[shell void]

zen 6 cpus have a new IOD so that it possible

[edgy laurel]

presumably Prom21 speaks over 4.0x4 so I imagine they'd design a new one if that changed

[pure garnet]

i’m pretty sure the only difference between my b850 mlg and my x870 tomahawk is the usb 4 ports and a couple extra usb a

the chipsets are all just artificial fr

[pallid marsh]

Is the b850 pcie gen 5?

[edgy laurel]

Gen5 has been a feature of every AM5 based chipset

because of course, they're all the same chip lmao

well, I suppose the Prom21 chip doesn't touch anything Gen5

[pure garnet]

yeah

instead of 2 basically useless usb c ports i just got 2 cpu nvmes

[topaz veldt]

X870e Glacial is a good value

[edgy laurel]

depends on how you're asking. if you mean the B850 as in B850 boards, yes. But the chipset itself on any board doesn't actually speak Gen5 at all.

[shell void]

where’s the pics bro?

[topaz veldt]

It's in my trunk still

[shell void]

[heavy mantle]

LMAO

The laptop was like this like idk 2 weeks before i came here again too

[topaz veldt]

@shell void for those who dare duh

[fringe vigil]

What’s that

[young void]

XD

[shell void]

that's gotta be the nicest feeling board that youve handled so far

[pure garnet]

i honestly wanna know how that does with mem since it has nitropath

[topaz veldt]

Just like my X870e hero

[shell void]

the glacial deserves 4x48GB

[pure garnet]

glacial same pcb layers as hero?

tech sheets say 8600/8200 9000 chips and 9200/8600 for apus

[shell void]

i think hero, extreme, and glacial are all 8 layer

[fringe vigil]

[topaz veldt]

Big ass VRM

[pure garnet]

what’s going in this board

[topaz veldt]

Lame 9850X3D

[shell void]

8 core cpu in an eatx board is amusing

i figured u would do 9950x3d and 2x48gb

[gentle urchin]

Idk man, mounting the PSU like this kinda slaps, no?

[topaz veldt]

I'm not buying ram until it makes sense

I'd go 9950X3D but I have this 9850X3D

[shell void]

switcheroo

[topaz veldt]

For what

I'd end up with 3x 9950X3D builds and a spare 9800X3D and 9800X3D

[shell void]

steal a 9950x3d from one of your other pcs and put the 9850x3d in its place

[topaz veldt]

Maybe I'll buy a 3rd

[shell void]

i only have a 9800x3d because it came out first

if the 9950x3d was available at the same time then i wouldnt have bothered with single ccd cope

[topaz veldt]

The thing is....

This is already hilariously wtf because this is the family room PC

[real jacinth]

Hello guys, i need to buy a mini pc for light office work like about 400 rows of MS excel and some simple word processing in MS word, and the only option available near me in a Blackview MP60, which has a Intel Celeron N5095 cpu in it. Is this a viable option for me? I just need to get those works done!

[topaz veldt]

@shell void wtf is this header

[indigo walrus]

https://www.techradar.com/computing/blackview-mp60-mini-pc-review

[indigo walrus]

Seems "acceptable" for light office use, but you get what you pay for.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/homeserversetups/posts/3149468958687927/

[upper horizon]

I just got a 7700x for 250 CAD

[fervent chasm]

What’s the budget?

Because I bet you that thing is overpriced

[topaz veldt]

I like this mini pc

[real jacinth]

about 300-ish, but i am from fiji and there isnt much options available, this brand "blackview" seems to be in many stores

[gentle urchin]

where is the pc, I only see a mac

[indigo walrus]

Mac Mini is just a PC, after all.

[topaz veldt]

[cosmic gazelle]

some kind of argb thing perhaps?

[fringe vigil]

[opaque anvil]

guys, I have a question
can I mix these ram and use it at the same time for 32 (8x4) ?
same gen, frequency, and latency

[cosmic gazelle]

yes it will 99% be fine

[shell void]

xxdd

[cosmic gazelle]

overclocking is where you would have weird behavior

[shell void]

i have no idea

[civic reef]

The neo seems pretty nice, wonder if Linux can be installed onto one with relative ease

[opaque anvil]

thanks for your answer

[pure garnet]

no it can’t

[civic reef]

Oh

[shell void]

i skimmed the manual in simplified chinese and i didnt see any mention of it

[topaz veldt]

No chance Linux is going on it

[edgy laurel]

unlabeled/documented headers are usually for factory debugging

[pure garnet]

i elaborate a bit the m1 mac’s still aren’t feature complete in linux

[fringe vigil]

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-office-stanley-hudson-2

[indigo walrus]

What?!? That doesn't make any sense. Why would a manufacturer release a product with known bugs in it? And why should the end user have to remove those bugs? Seems like a scam if you ask me... /s

[civic reef]

Alright

[brave panther]

bios flashing header and select

but since bios chips are right there it is maybe a programing header

[pure garnet]

aside from my dac being weird with reconnecting once my pc has slept everytime for about 8 hours a sleep @shell void

[pure garnet]

might be this?

[shell void]

always a problem

never free

[pure garnet]

holding the button on the dac and hitting the button again fixed it

so i think that's actually just topping's fault

[pure garnet]

wait nvm those are leds

[topaz veldt]

oh nice SPI

[topaz veldt]

Dude... I don't think it should be $1200, but I see why it is today

[pure garnet]

the magnetic ram fan seems sick

[topaz veldt]

the ram fan is kinda mid

same/similar as Apexes

My Micro Center only received one of these boards 🙂

[shell void]

you bought the only one? xD

[pure garnet]

mine got 2

guess i'll have to make the trip

why does tpu not give us high res motherboard shots like they do gpus

[topaz veldt]

yup

I dunno if its limited release or they just figure only morons will buy a $1200 mobo

[pure garnet]

they probably knew you were 1 of 10 interested parties

[edgy laurel]

will discord take 4K 120fps AV1?

apparently yes

[frank zealot]

2 in stock boston

[shell void]

not pathtracing.. raytracing, but with no ray reconstruction, and youre using dlss4.5 performance

[edgy laurel]

UP, but otherwise yes

[topaz veldt]

Yeah seems like at most there are 2 here and there

[shell void]

[edgy laurel]

really not a fan of reflections in RT mode, at least in some cases

[shell void]

if you enable RR then theyll be crystal clear

like they would be with pathtracing

[edgy laurel]

but it'll drop me back to Preset D

[shell void]

this is true but it's not as soft looking without having to denoise pathtraced global illumination

especially if you only enable rt reflections and shadows, but not rt lighting

[fringe vigil]

still need to play PL

[edgy laurel]

Nvidiaaaaa! give us updated DLL's!

[topaz veldt]

I worked with a guy who called them "DILLs"

like he'd say "Alright, whatcha got here is unsupported/outdated DILLs"

Drove me nuts

[shell void]

XD

[edgy laurel]

I hate it

[topaz veldt]

He also called URLs "earls"

[edgy laurel]

oh god

[topaz veldt]

The prob is that he was like crazy smart with Windows systems

[brave panther]

uhm, where are the pcie slots?

[shell void]

woah spark i just encountered a new bug for the first time

[topaz veldt]

Missing

[shell void]

i was hopping around and my Male V character played a Female V grunt noise

ive never had that happen before

[edgy laurel]

[fringe vigil]

whens crimson desert

[topaz veldt]

people are upset because it has denovo whatever DRM shit

[fringe vigil]

hoo lee sheeet???

thats in 3 days

[brave panther]

looks better than with all that crap bolted on

[shell void]

woah speaking of march 19th

invincible season 4 premiere on march 18th

[brave panther]

https://tenor.com/view/conquest-invincible-stand-ready-for-my-arrival-gif-1552484032479568873

[fringe vigil]

look at this art

can ride mf dragons

[shell void]

i loved the creative liberties that they took with his character

[edgy laurel]

omg @shell void i can't take the plants and the ground flickering

[frank zealot]

I'm waiting for the first week of April. A bunch of new anime drops

[topaz veldt]

Guys, forget the new mobo. This is a game change.

[shell void]

yeah it's really bad xd

you either have to just disable tracing entirely, or use it with reconstruction

[edgy laurel]

sigh. alright, back to tinkering

[brave panther]

Pepe-poopoo bot

[topaz veldt]

its so awesome

[brave panther]

as long as it has proper failsafes so it is safe for cat

[topaz veldt]

yep

[brave panther]

i saw something horrific multiple times involving those kinds of litter bots

[topaz veldt]

its got a laser curtain

[brave panther]

good

[edgy laurel]

man, the reflections are ace now but everythign is just ever so slightly blurry on account of the regression in the upscaling model

[topaz veldt]

If it runs its cleaning cycle and you put your hand in the opening it stops

[shell void]

it stinks that we have to choose between lighting or clarity

[brave panther]

soon

[shell void]

@edgy laurel on the plus side this issue should be sorted out by the time that The Witcher 4 and GTA 6 launch

[inland dome]

I found out the hard way that my asrock bios has a BCO of +150 already set once PBO is turned on, and that the BCO setting adds to that, instead of overriding it

[edgy laurel]

[shell void]

it’s looking like the foliage in TW4 will be very pretty

i never finished TW3

[inland dome]

My cpu was unstable because it was allowed to run at 5650mhz, not 5500

A subtraction less than 150 is actually still treated as a BCO addition past the base boost clock, and I feel stupid figuring that out now

Like I even saw through hwinfo cores were boosting much higher than 5500

[shell void]

<@&750150305383186585>

[brave panther]

who falls for this kind of crap

[edgy laurel]

jorj

[brave panther]

becouse someone has to for them to spam it so hard

[young void]

[shell void]

wowza the RT performance gains with M5 series are massive

im hype for the M6 (tsmc n2) macbook redesign with tandem oled displays

[pure garnet]

@merry stirrup <insert case pickup joke here> but do you want me to save the riser for you to throw in a random thing you buy

[merry stirrup]

oh the riser would be awesome

thank you

[pure garnet]

kk i'll grab it before i throw away the y40

it might work fine i never had issues with the ocf but swapping the case + displayport cable has given me 0 issues so far

[edgy laurel]

Marques couldn't spring for the $1000 stand for at least one person. Tsk tsk. /s

[shell void]

i see at least 11 pro display xdrs

[edgy laurel]

yeah i'm watching his desk tour from today. apparently the whole studio uses them

[shell void]

i wonder if he'll sell them all and replace them with studio display xdrs

if he times it right then he could get some money back and have his team on better monitors

[edgy laurel]

one of those is a Kuycon 32P

[merry stirrup]

i’d just use it for shitter he

[shell void]

actually 10 and one studio display

7 and 8 might be studio displays too, they look a bit small

[brave panther]

forgor one

[shell void]

so maybe 8 pro display xdrs? smh cheaping out marques

[edgy laurel]

person in the front was like na, i need 32:9

[shell void]

it's probably elite for video editing

too bad youre stuck at 1440p at 32:9 unless you buy that dual 4K scamsung VA monitor that's like 9 million dollars

[edgy laurel]

still cheaper than the PD XDR...

[shell void]

tru it's $2100 at bestbuy right now

sold by a shady third party though

$2300 from scamsung direct

shame they never made an oled version of this

[edgy laurel]

in time

that res will show up again

[shell void]

it's too late now because itll be matte if they make it now

it's so fucking over

[edgy laurel]

ayye Marques and I use the same headphones

on the stock cable!

[brave panther]

28MQ780-B
funnier display

(2560 x 2880)

[shell void]

i would like that format but not a 60Hz LCD

it would be nice for web browsing

[brave panther]

real

[hexed karma]

Peak second monitor

[shell void]

yeah that would be an awesome format for a secondary discord and browsing monitor

[eager elm]

are microcenter bundles the most logical upgrade path to am5 rn?

[shell void]

theyre pretty good

[brave panther]

meanwhile scamsung

[eager elm]

i have a friend who wants to upgrade and make an itx build, figured he could probably just get a bundle and sell the mobo for wtv he can get

[brave panther]

lmao

[merry cloak]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3f9PsK

how much could i sell a pc like this for

[devout ridge]

go on ebay, find a similar listing or listings

[eager elm]

is building mini itx dumb if i want small form factor

[edgy laurel]

how else do you expect to get proper sff?

[eager elm]

well i should probably rephrase that

i do want small factor but im wondering if the jump from mini itx to micro-atx is worth the extra size considering the price and storage capacity

[shell void]

micro atx is significantly cheaper and easier

[edgy laurel]

if you have these questions now, you don't want to dive into ITX

[lethal topaz]

depends on if you want to pay the mini itx tax

[shell void]

small matx cases have grown in popularity in the last couple of years

[eager elm]

i know the a3 is super popular

idk how good it is tho

[shell void]

there are very few circumstances where you actually need a tiny ITX PC, it's mostly for fun, mATX is cheaper and equally as practical

[edgy laurel]

what you do want is a compact mATX case like the A3-mATX. save money and your sanity unless you're truly "into" small SFF

[eager elm]

yeah u guys are probably right

out of curiosity do most tiny itx mobos only support 1 m.2

i mean ones that are fairly priced

[edgy laurel]

2 isn't uncommon

just have to look on something like PCPP

[eager elm]

alr i was just curious but i think matx is probably easiest for me

[edgy laurel]

can set the minimum number of M.2 slots and search

[eager elm]

and most logical

although tiny itx builds do look cool they seem like a pain to build in

[edgy laurel]

not really if you've studied other builds in the same chassis, bought compatible parts and know how to use your hands

[eager elm]

also is air still fine if i want to keep it quiet? or should i force water?

[indigo walrus]

Can confirm. Can confirm. But this mostly boils down to - yeah, what @edgy laurel said. Buying the right parts.

[shell void]

air is quieter because there's no pump noise factor

[eager elm]

that's what i thought i just wasnt sure

any recommendations for m-atx mobo's?

[shell void]

if youre going AM5 then i recommend the MSI B850 MPOWER

[eager elm]

cool

[shell void]

it's typically $230 and it has any feature youd want, plus it's only 1 dimm slot per memory channel which will let you run higher memory speeds on future zen 6 cpus

[eager elm]

honestly i was thinking abt the 9800x3d bundle but i dont even think i need that

i bought a m-atx setup a while ago but had to return it cause of a moving situation

this was before the ram prices spiked up it's a shame

[devout ridge]

it’s usually any order of operations issue

In big fish tank cases you can get away with doing stuff in a lot of different orders, in ITX cases there’s usually one way to easily do it

Look at how it’s usually done, and copy it as 1:1 as possible

[eager elm]

that makes sense

[devout ridge]

source:

[eager elm]

thats so cool bro

[devout ridge]

the FormD T1 is a great case

9.95L too

[eager elm]

i was thinking abt the 7800x3d but for an extra 80 bucks why not just get the 9800x3d surely

[edgy laurel]

PCPP's "completed builds" feature is invaulable as a beginner if you're unsure what fits and how to put it all together. Select the case, scroll down, click "see completed builds using this case".

[shell void]

if you can safely afford it then yeah get the 9800X3D

[eager elm]

this makes me want to build in an m-itx case so bad

[shell void]

if youre strapped for cash then i think they have a 7500X3D + 16GB ram bundle for much less

[eager elm]

the 9800x3d is fine i work and dont spend much

[devout ridge]

T1 so nice

[shell void]

[devout ridge]

you pay the ITX tax tho

that case alone is more than 300usd after shipping

[eager elm]

honestly ill probably look into mitx and matx and see what's worth more to my heart and wallet

[eager elm]

yeah i know it's a shame

i saw the fractal design terra at my microcenter

looked pretty cool

is the a3 the most compact m atx u can get?

[shell void]

naw there are some niche cases that are most space efficient

the A3 is just nice because it's very affordable and readily available

[eager elm]

could u link some if u dont mind

[edgy laurel]

don't even need to go that small. Lot more breathing room in things like the NCASE M3

[eager elm]

ive seen this one before

are all of the niche ones roughly this price ?

[edgy laurel]

$245 though

[edgy laurel]

if you buy from small, boutique brands, often yes

[eager elm]

yeah that make sense

i feel like the a3 still looked pretty big in person

but maybe thats cause i was looking at it pretty much on eye level

[edgy laurel]

a3 has lots of fans around here

[eager elm]

correct me if im wrong

is the wooden version the only one that has airflow in the front?

[edgy laurel]

iirc, yes. but you have to remember it isn't a fullsize tower

[shell void]

it does have a relatively large footprint

[edgy laurel]

its airflow pattern doesn't work that way

[shell void]

it's not much smaller than a modern midtower in terms of footprint

it's just shorter

[eager elm]

yeah it looked pretty big which is what turnt me toward m-itx

realistically i just want osmething that isnt annoying to have in a dorm and to move around in a car every once in a while

[shell void]

i dont have vast knowledge of the current mitx market

[eager elm]

like those are my primary needs

[shell void]

im a full size guy

[edgy laurel]

lmao sfx psu's are so tiny in the A3

[eager elm]

how much is a decent mitx board worth right now?

[edgy laurel]

do you know how to use PCPP?

[eager elm]

let me go look

[edgy laurel]

if you've never used it before, i'd suggest getting comfortable quickly

[eager elm]

well i kinda ask that cause idrk what to look for in terms of what makes a mobo good or not

besides the io

[edgy laurel]

not being bottom of the barrel budget.. then just having the ports and slots you want

[fervent chasm]

the cheapest one with good reviews and ratings

[eager elm]

my needs are pretty low

im just gonna try to calculate a rough estimate as to how much a mitx would cost me

[edgy laurel]

why?

[fervent chasm]

just use pcpp bruh

[eager elm]

curiosity

[edgy laurel]

we have tools that do this for you

[eager elm]

yeah i meant with pcpp

[edgy laurel]

you select your filters and it just presents you with your options

can start with AM5, mATX and B850 https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#s=41&f=7&c=169&sort=price&page=1

if you want a minimum number of M.2 slots, just use the filters. same with any other requirement

[eager elm]

does anyone have the psu tierlist sheet

[edgy laurel]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/2/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/htmlview?pli=1#gid=1078495601

[eager elm]

thank u

[eager elm]

roughly how much wattage should i go for with a 9800x3d and a 3080

[topaz veldt]

PCPP will tell you

SF850 is what you should buy

[eager elm]

thats what i was looking at

[pallid marsh]

PSU last over 10 years just get a 850w+ and be good for a decade

[edgy laurel]

given how common they are, no real sense in buying anything less than 850W at this point. so many solid options. 750W is money is a problem

[eager elm]

based off the sheet

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel

[eager elm]

if i were to build in a fractal design terra it would cost me ~1300 usd

[edgy laurel]

we were just looking at a glacial build with standard color noctuas this morning lmao

its certainly a choice haha

[eager elm]

this is cpu mobo ram case psu

[topaz veldt]

Do you have a link

[edgy laurel]

and come with some additional expertise needed to cool the CPU. @topaz veldt has experience with that case

[eager elm]

im going to do the same for m atx and see the difference

[topaz veldt]

difference is huge

[edgy laurel]

oh nevermind, wasn't a glacial. just that EATX example i found

[topaz veldt]

mATX boards are "budget" oriented while mITX boards are "I want compact at any cost" oriented

[topaz veldt]

Yeah thats the godlike

[edgy laurel]

ya

[eager elm]

its that and the case too

[topaz veldt]

You can get cheap AF mITX cases

[edgy laurel]

I don't think something like a Terra is right if this is your first time

and you're considering a 9800x3D

[eager elm]

i picked the terra as kind of a substitute as it's readily availible and I wouldnt have to pay shipping

[edgy laurel]

can't fit an AIO, so it needs to be an air cooler, but compact top down model.

[eager elm]

my main concern is building something that fits comfortably in a dorm and is easy to transport

[topaz veldt]

I had a full tower in my dorm... anything will fit

How often are you going to transport it

[eager elm]

i was told there are niche matx cases that are also small but those are expensive

[edgy laurel]

i had a laptop lol

[eager elm]

not that often, just whenever i have to go home from the dorm

via car

[edgy laurel]

the cases we looked at earlier were all ITX

[topaz veldt]

NCase M2 or M3

[eager elm]

guilty sent that one

[topaz veldt]

If you aren't look at 4090s and 5090s then an M2 will work and its slightly smaller

[edgy laurel]

yeah I sent a pic of his build lol

hold on M3 can fit mATX? i guess I missed that

[topaz veldt]

It can

[eager elm]

the m2 looks pretty cool

[topaz veldt]

but it gets whacky

The M3 comes in a "Grater"

[brisk jolt]

if you want really small and not using big components you can go for the shinysnake s300

its in the 8-9 litre range

[topaz veldt]

oh M2 Grater also

[edgy laurel]

i'm dizzy

[brisk jolt]

and it has a handle

[eager elm]

im not im never going to have a need for a gpu that powerful

[topaz veldt]

Yeah it gets confusing

[topaz veldt]

If you don't mind limiting your CPU to like 100-120W then you can get Terra

But you're running these kinds of coolers

[eager elm]

well the terra would restrict me to itx right

[edgy laurel]

and SFX PSU's are more expensive

[eager elm]

unlike the m2

[topaz veldt]

you're 100% mITX in a Terra

[eager elm]

logically going with the m2 and building matx is probably the smartest for me

[pallid marsh]

Didn't realize how cute and tiny that psu was

[eager elm]

cause my main issue with was with the a3 i saw in person

[topaz veldt]

You could also do this...

[eager elm]

still looked big it was just short

[eager elm]

cool toaster dude

[edgy laurel]

do you already have a GPU? didn't you mention 3080?

[eager elm]

yeah fe

[topaz veldt]

285mm length

[edgy laurel]

M2 will do 30 series FE and even an ATX PSU with an mATX board https://ncased.com/blogs/m2-builds/m2-build-level4

[eager elm]

is the m2 larger than the m3

[topaz veldt]

Smaller by a hair

[eager elm]

and how much is it

[edgy laurel]

$235

[eager elm]

shipped

[brisk jolt]

What is gabe using to transport their case tho?

[edgy laurel]

oh, couldn't tell you

[eager elm]

car

[brisk jolt]

What are you putting it in?

[brisk jolt]

I use a carry-on bag and my 10L ITX barely fits in

[eager elm]

surrounding it with hopes and prayers that nothing goes wrong

[topaz veldt]

he's driving to and from a dorm

[edgy laurel]

ugh 5nail have you seen ncase's Cosmic Orange powdercoat

[topaz veldt]

yes

[edgy laurel]

thats so bright

[topaz veldt]

its like... of all colors

[eager elm]

is there a difference between the m3 grater and the round performance wise

[hoary hatch]

Does it match the iPhone

[topaz veldt]

they don't do white, but they do caution orange

[topaz veldt]

yes the grater is much more ventilated

[eager elm]

so its a must

[topaz veldt]

imho yes

[eager elm]

and the flatpack is just i have to put it together right

[topaz veldt]

yes

which you shoudl do anyway because there are so many layouts

like mine is "inverted"

[eager elm]

it would be 260 shipped to me

[brisk jolt]

Thats not very assuring

[topaz veldt]

I was running this for a while

if you do it this way you don't need feet, because the GPU is intaking from above

[eager elm]

let me find a mobo

hows this?

[edgy laurel]

M3 + FE card + ATX PSU + mATX board example https://ncased.com/blogs/m3-builds/m3-build-level4

[eager elm]

this looks cool

[edgy laurel]

that overhang of the GPU on the PSU is scary. better hope your particular PSU doesn't have ports there

but this is what you deal with trying to put big parts in small cases

[topaz veldt]

I would avoid ASRock B650 anything

[eager elm]

what would u recommend

[topaz veldt]

Anything but ASRock

[eager elm]

also what psu since i no longer need sfx

[topaz veldt]

looks like you can do an RM850x

but i dunno

[eager elm]

msi?

[topaz veldt]

also the point of the grater diminshes if the whole front is blocked by PSU

[edgy laurel]

good point

[edgy laurel]

i don't think there is anything wrong with Asrock B650 (just 850/870) but if not Asrock, you only have 3 other options and they're fine

[eager elm]

?

[edgy laurel]

does it have what you need?

[eager elm]

yes

theres two different versions with different ios. Im assuming the one on the right is better correct?

more usb c and gen 3?

[edgy laurel]

better is up to you

[eager elm]

fair enough

[brisk jolt]

get whatever u need

theres no definitive better here from us

[eager elm]

when it comes to layout for the m2 is what are considered "objectively" better layouts restricted by psu size?

[edgy laurel]

if you're trying to put an mATX board and ATX PSU in either M2 or M3, you don' thave many options for layout

[eager elm]

well i think the matx board makes sense for me but im not sure abt the psu

[edgy laurel]

in fact looking at the layout examples, its the same just one is inverted

[brisk jolt]

I do not trust them transporting a 15L area box around regularly after he said “hopes and dreams” transporting it

[eager elm]

im a good driver bro chill

its also not that long of a drive

[brisk jolt]

this isnt about ur driving skills- you have no contingency plan whatsoever

[eager elm]

ill worry abt that after i actually have the computer

[eager elm]

so what psu size would u recommend?

[edgy laurel]

if i'm building in a case like that, SFX without question. removing compromises

[brisk jolt]

just go all in since you’re transporting it so you can fit it in a bag

[edgy laurel]

Corsair's SF line is kinda the best

[brisk jolt]

i dont find lugging around a really big fat box everyday worth the price diff of smaller versus fat

[eager elm]

yeah i figured

it would cost me roughly ~1300$ to build in a matx if i get the m2

idek if that's worth it the case is the same cost as the mobo and psu combined

[brisk jolt]

just make more component compromises and go all in for small box

“who cares about having cool temps, let the fastest man win”

[eager elm]

a small box would literally cost me roughly the same

[brisk jolt]

shinysnake S300

[eager elm]

specially if im alr paying 260 for an matx case

[hoary hatch]

Fascinating

[brisk jolt]

with this treasure i summon iroh

[devout ridge]

the image setsuna sent is an emote in the sff discord

lol am i mahoraga now?

[brisk jolt]

yeah have fun ill be dyin first

[devout ridge]

megumi pulling mahoraga cause he stubbed his toe

[eager elm]

is there no other more reasonably price compact matx case

[brisk jolt]

no not really unless you resort to china

dude just grow bigger testicles and go smaller via the s300

[devout ridge]

matx is a weird middle ground that most companies don’t care enough about to make a competitively priced case

[brisk jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193840159358976/1481915275858415739/0AFC5196-3FC4-4100-B996-41EAF73ECCFD.gif

[eager elm]

like if im genuienly gonna spend 170 on a mobo and 260 on a case i might aswell go mitx surely

[devout ridge]

REAL

[brisk jolt]

yes yes yes yes

[devout ridge]

BUY THE T1

[eager elm]

the t1 is cool

[devout ridge]

buy it!

[brisk jolt]

t1 is too expensive for him xd

[devout ridge]

shut up setsuna

300 ain’t much more than 260

[brisk jolt]

he’s crying over it already while considering a M2/M3 with matx parts and a large psu

he’s gonna get itx taxed xd

[topaz veldt]

If you are considering an M2/M3 then you are not considering a T1

[eager elm]

no thi swas with a sf850

[eager elm]

explain

[topaz veldt]

Totally differnt flavour of "SFF"

[devout ridge]

they’re two different size classes

[topaz veldt]

I have a Terra and an M3 - those are not the same potential systems

[devout ridge]

there’s SFF, then there’s sub-10L SFF

the T1 is sub-10L sff

[eager elm]

well yeah ik i came in here wanting mitx cause i think its super cool but was turnt away from it because of the mitx tax and the difficulty in building

[devout ridge]

“SFF” is generally anything less than 25L

the difficulty really isn’t too bad

[topaz veldt]

Its like $200 total

[eager elm]

the m2 alone is 260

[topaz veldt]

The difference in price

[brisk jolt]

@devout ridge btw ive decided end of the year to cerakote my T1 to like a silver-blue

[topaz veldt]

mITX and SFX PSU is like $200 total to a build

compared to mATX and ATX PSU

[devout ridge]

the lowest spec T1 is actually only 195usd before shipping

[devout ridge]

ooh pretty

[brisk jolt]

completely new build, replacing everything except for the C5 CU

[eager elm]

so if i were to get m2 you would recommend going for an atx psu?

[topaz veldt]

No

[brisk jolt]

Im still keeping the panels as Ti

[topaz veldt]

I would recommend SFX

@devout ridge look at this nonsense

[devout ridge]

i wanna barf

[brisk jolt]

You already got the glacial?

[devout ridge]

there’s so many conflicting colors

[brisk jolt]

Oh no thats prob another build

[eager elm]

so do u think i should just do m2, sfx psu, and matx mobo?

[topaz veldt]

Maybe

[devout ridge]

full commit and go with the formd T1

[topaz veldt]

I don't follow the mATX stuff so dunno if anything worthwhile there

mATX was invented to be cheap

[devout ridge]

you won’t regret, promise

[eager elm]

how much is the average mitx cooler

[topaz veldt]

Mission accomplished

[brisk jolt]

i think you should do a S300 or a T1, mITX board, SF series PSU and a axp47

[devout ridge]

you can get an axp90x47 for like 35usd

that’s the go to cooler for the T1 with a >2.5slot gpu

[eager elm]

what mobo would u recommend

[devout ridge]

whatever itx board with the IO you want that you can get for cheap

[brisk jolt]

They could also consider something like a velka 7 tbh

Its at like below 7L

[eager elm]

anything i should avoid

[devout ridge]

i find the velka 7 to be too limiting

[topaz veldt]

ID-Cooling IS-67-XT preferred

[devout ridge]

and if they’re already worried about the build process in the T1, i doubt they’re up for the velka

[topaz veldt]

https://a.co/d/019BwXYU

[devout ridge]

assuming you can fit it

[eager elm]

is there any mobo brand i should avoid

[brisk jolt]

no only the shit models

[topaz veldt]

I would avoid ASRock w/ AM5

[devout ridge]

only fits in 2.25slot or thinner

[brisk jolt]

they have a 3080fe

[topaz veldt]

3080 FE

[devout ridge]

oh it’s 2 slot

[topaz veldt]

yes

[devout ridge]

yeah then what snail said

i jumped in halfway into the conversation and missed the specs, my bad

[topaz veldt]

I've tested all this shit - the id 67 xt is the best

[brisk jolt]

na ur good

[devout ridge]

the T1 was my first PC build and i found it to be pretty easy, though i made a point of taking my time

[eager elm]

this is slightly more expensive than what i had for the matx build

this is on top of the 9800x3d bundle from microcenter which id sell the mobo from

[devout ridge]

no asrock for am5

they like to go explode

[topaz veldt]

Get that asrock murder board out of htere

[devout ridge]

oh and get custom cables at some point, they’re really nice to have

[topaz veldt]

prob not in budget

but if he goes SF850 he will be fine

[devout ridge]

not required for air cooling, but by god do they look nice

[eager elm]

there is this

with zero reviews

[devout ridge]

Yeah i mostly meant in future when they have extra funds

[brisk jolt]

thats not am5

[eager elm]

im a dumbass

[topaz veldt]

Personally i'd go M2 or M3 grater

[brisk jolt]

search for b650 and b850 in filter

[devout ridge]

put a 9800x3d into pcpp so it will show you am5 only boards

[eager elm]

this is all we got

[devout ridge]

i ran stock cables and an aio in the T1, so they’re fine with stock cables and an air cooler

[topaz veldt]

@eager elm this is a 9950X3D w/ 48GB of 8000 CL36 RAM, 4TB PCIe 5.0 NVMe, 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe, 280mm AIO, 5090, SF1000... and its silent, performs amazing, and is easily movable to and from my office.

[devout ridge]

(everything minus the aio fits in the T1 as well)

(would have to be a 240mm aio)

[eager elm]

i dont doubt that i just mean like if im alr spending 260 on a case, getting a sfx psu and a 170 usd mobo

why not mitx

[shell void]

the compact space heater

[devout ridge]

the difference is mostly personal preference

[eager elm]

small is cool

[topaz veldt]

mITX is nice

its hilarious, actually

[devout ridge]

T1 ftw then

fitting absurdly powerful gear into something smaller than a shoebox is funny

[eager elm]

i think it could be the move

[topaz veldt]

There's a mobo behind there lol

[devout ridge]

if you squint really hard, it looks like a box fan

[eager elm]

is the Gigabyte B650I AORUS ULTRA good with you guys

or is gigabyte a piece of shit too

[brisk jolt]

@eager elm how much does the s300 cost for you on say, taobao or ali

[devout ridge]

ooh pretty

[topaz veldt]

@shell void $1200 mobo experience is kind of cool

[devout ridge]

better be a good experience for that price

[topaz veldt]

Its for those who dare

[eager elm]

it's like 100 bucks w out shipping on aliexpress

but does it look as cool as the t1

also the t1 is cheaper than the m2

[topaz veldt]

If you are looking at T1 why not Terra

[eager elm]

terra would work better for me

as i wouldnt have to pay shipping

i saw the terra irl too and it looked cool

[topaz veldt]

the only dumb is the color selection

I powdercoated a silver one white

[eager elm]

my microcenter only has the ugly jade one and the black

id just get the black

[topaz veldt]

word

the silver is kind of ass it looks like the Tin Man

[eager elm]

theres also an open box one

with manufacturer warranty

for 140

[topaz veldt]

I'd prob take it

[eager elm]

seems pretty good to me

here we go

ggs

[eager elm]

and sf850 is chill for 9800x3d and 3080 correct

[topaz veldt]

yes

[eager elm]

i think thats the play then probably

[brisk jolt]

could go as low as a sf750

was gonna say 600 but thats EOL

[topaz veldt]

I wouldn't

[brisk jolt]

sf850 is only slightly more expensive so id just grab that anyway

[eager elm]

building is gonna be a pain in the ass but whatever

ill just man up

[brisk jolt]

as you should

@devout ridge even as I click on a monitor review I see the T1

even as Im scrolling I see another T1 build

[eager elm]

out of curiosity what is the nearest cpu in performance to the 7950x?

[brisk jolt]

in?

[eager elm]

single thread

that might be a stupid question

[edgy laurel]

the rest of the 7000 lineup..

they all have the same core.

[topaz veldt]

This is sick

[edgy laurel]

basically early smartphone screen size

[wise bear]

🤮

[topaz veldt]

but the display of post codes is insane

it actually says memory training, cycle, etc.

[topaz veldt]

I got bored today

[brisk jolt]

my dumbass thought that was one of those AIOs like the hyte with the smartphone screen

[topaz veldt]

its the IO cover

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-saber-kamen-rider-saber-phone-ping-gif-22725201

[shell void]

my beloved glacial

[topaz veldt]

dude this is so cool

[shell void]

maximus extreme but white

[topaz veldt]

I am so glad I have the Apex and all... but this is fun

I almost got the Dark Hero today

[shell void]

the dark hero does look nice, it’s like a mini extreme

but the glacial is a full size white extreme

[topaz veldt]

its cute but they ditched the slimsas and shit... so its kinda dumbed down from X870E Hero

Didn't I have an X870E Hero? I must have

yeah i did

[shell void]

$1200 extreme glacial board in a fractal north in the living room is kind of amusing

[topaz veldt]

its complete arrogance

[brisk jolt]

ah yes lets set a listing for the 165hz and show the 240hz info

[topaz veldt]

@brisk jolt how much is the X870E Glacial Ice for you

[brisk jolt]

1875 sgd

did it just come out for you? hence ya picked one earlier

[topaz veldt]

I dunno I saw it in stock at MC

they only had 1 here

[pure garnet]

i kinda expected the north xl to look longer

[topaz veldt]

1 or 2 in each store

[pure garnet]

or is that 5090 just that big

[topaz veldt]

well there's a cover on it

yes that GPU is large but also

[pure garnet]

ah that pic makes the diff

[topaz veldt]

there is like 2" to the right of the gpu

[pure garnet]

i have like 5 mm between my gpu and the rad

[brisk jolt]

the glacial looks fire

[eager elm]

whats like the tiniest atx case thats still usable

[topaz veldt]

its completely ridiculous

[edgy laurel]

SFF Time N-ATX

https://www.sfftime.com/customer-builds-n-atx

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel this is during Windows 11 installation - no software running

[eager elm]

cause maybe i just suck it up and fuck the sff and show up with an atx like snail to my dorm

[topaz veldt]

it does that power readout w/o any background apps, kinda cool

[edgy laurel]

must not have clicked

[brisk jolt]

are we deadass

[eager elm]

yeah i just did

[eager elm]

if i just sucked it up all id have to buy is the bundle and thats it

700 to build in atx compared to 1400 to build in mitx/matx

[topaz veldt]

Not only did I show up with a FULL tower ATX, but it was like 2004 full tower ATX

I want to say a chieftec alienware clone

STEEL, easily 50 lbs all inm

[eager elm]

exactly and computers in dorms are probably more of a norm now lol

[topaz veldt]

uh yes

they were always the norm

Here's the other thing...

A T1/terra/M2/M3 are nice because you can carry it easily... but so can someone else

[eager elm]

i have a ugly ass corsair 220t i got like 6 years ago

[eager elm]

yeah exactly maybe i go with a 200 l to prevent this

[brisk jolt]

5nail is just built different

[eager elm]

the only logical choice

2nd logical choice drill it into the ground

[lethal topaz]

five mall five nail

[eager elm]

what are some decently priced and small atx cases

[fickle narwhal]

Anyone know any fixes for a asus strix laptop that got a win 11 update and now when turned on lights on keyboard come one but display stays black

[eager elm]

idrc abt aesthetics much

[brisk jolt]

#1027757333117415424

[fickle narwhal]

[lethal topaz]

lowkey would be a good use of ai, to give you troubleshooting steps to narrow it down

this can be quite a few different issues from your description

[fickle narwhal]

That’s all been tried it’s claims bios issues so they fix may be a repair shop or just wait a month till all power drains and bios resets

[topaz veldt]

X870E Glacial, 5090 Master Ice, 9850X3D dorm build?

[brisk jolt]

5nail back 2 school build

[lethal topaz]

theres a cmos battery inside the laptop you can manually remove to reset bios lol. you dont have to wait for the battery to drain

[fickle narwhal]

It’s asus you can’t cause f me I guess 😭

[eager elm]

what is this case https://www.amazon.com/SSUPD-Meshroom-Mini-ITX-Compatible-Variant/dp/B0FFBC7QMP?th=1

[topaz veldt]

popular mitx

[eager elm]

it fits atx boards but the psu blocks the pci express ports

[cosmic gazelle]

if you were gonna build a nas with 4 3.5s what would you build in

[lethal topaz]

milk crate

[eager elm]

would 750w be pushing it if i was on 9800x3d and 3080

[brisk jolt]

no

[gloomy vault]

bro im stuck in the middle of fuckass nowhere in taiwan

[pure garnet]

@shell void the gaming trio is not a fan off the aorus master vbios it seems

wait nvm it's behaving now

[brisk jolt]

fucking shitbox

[wise bear]

Have you considered

??

[pure garnet]

oh im voltage limited already

i can't make it draw 400w :(

[wise bear]

skill issue tbh

[brisk jolt]

whats the max power u saw it draw

im gonna assume its at best 330-350

[low sorrel]

peyton have you played the new ron dlc yet?

[pure garnet]

so far just 309w because i didn't open a real benchmark

[wise bear]

bro

[low sorrel]

what

[brisk jolt]

nice name

[wise bear]

the name

[wise bear]

and no I've been building a house in secondlife

and being a socialite

and working on my office

[low sorrel]

did he not?

[pure garnet]

yeah it's like 350w @brisk jolt

[brisk jolt]

did you not raise the clocks?

id assume with 350w you’d hit 3.3

[low sorrel]

what is secondlife

[pure garnet]

it can 3.3 but it’s honestly so noisy i’m gonna just flash back

[wise bear]

adult game

[brisk jolt]

I wish i could do 3.3 on the prime but 3280 is close enough

[pure garnet]

did you try this vbios

i flashed the master bc of the power limit

[brisk jolt]

yeah I did and told michael about it

the prime doesnt work with the master

[pure garnet]

what doesn't work

all i checked was that all 3 fans spun

[lethal topaz]

oh my god

this at your work?

[brisk jolt]

card wont be recognised

[pure garnet]

wdym

i had to reinstall my driver to get the card to work again but otherwise it's been fine

[brisk jolt]

no drivers- tried reinstalling and still nothing
card isnt recognised at allon msi ab

nvidia app also just doesnt recognise the card lol

[pure garnet]

completely stock in the game i play it's sitting about 29

fan noise seems the same so i guess i'll leave it flashed

@merry stirrup did you ever try vbios stuff

[brisk jolt]

i dont think i fucked anything up since it was still displaying and I managed to just flashback but yeah

of course when I decide to do laundry it starts raining, TF

[pure garnet]

seems like 3250 @ 325w is roughly where the card wants to sit

[brisk jolt]

that seems very normal indeed

[cosmic gazelle]

i’m breaking my brain trying to figure out how amd’s laptop cpu hierarchy has worked with igpus

none of this shit makes any sense

[lethal topaz]

asus trueblack glossy vs 2023 qd oled

it actually looks so good

[cosmic gazelle]

“you can’t even tell my monitor’s on” ahh tiktok video

[lethal topaz]

it was technically off

neither of these screens are illuminated in the photo, it just helps show the "magenta" screen color of qd oled

[cosmic gazelle]

well i’m still trying to figure out why a 7000 branded ryzen processor came with a GCN gpu so i’ve got bigger fish to fry

[brisk jolt]

yeah the older qd oleds suck at brightness

The 1000 nit mode on my AW2725DF literally turns everything dark to purple

[lethal topaz]

i think that was my dream monitor for a while

but then asus made this tandem 540hz panel

[inland dome]

I think Ill take dull dark grey before magenta

[lethal topaz]

its actually not that bad in most lighting

i just saw that from a certain angle and thought it would make a good picture

[inland dome]

I can imagine, that magenta only pops when there's light coming straight at the display as I understand

Probably looks perfectly black in the dark

[lethal topaz]

lol

[inland dome]

Gave myself some gentle carpal tunnel going through and editing a 217 row imported csv spreadsheet because it formats completely improperly

This is what we do in cybersec classes I guess

[low sorrel]

GOOP GOOP GOOP

I acquired this very friendly in duos locked gate trust

[topaz veldt]

Lol

[low sorrel]

i just found 8 dead bodies trust me bro

[low sorrel]

I just got called the n word by a free kit

looks inside tempest bp

makes sense

[trim barn]

Yo guys I’ve got a b250m msi motherboard rn and a i5 7500 what should I get as upgrade I got 24gb ddr4

[low sorrel]

a brand new computer

no but seriously

theres no upgrades from 7th gen without needing a motherboard upgrade so

[trim barn]

Yea ik but what mother board

And what cpu

[low sorrel]

depends on your budget

[trim barn]

I have around 150-200$

😭

[lethal topaz]

probably go to am4 with a 5000 series chip. look second hand

[brisk jolt]

@wise bear send it

[lethal topaz]

or just save your money

[trim barn]

Yea I found a b450m and a ryzen 5 5600 quite cheap

[low sorrel]

send what

[brisk jolt]

job

i think im pretty decided that im gonna get the tandem WOLED version of the XG32UCWMG with DP 2.1

[lethal topaz]

why did you specify with DP 2.1

kind of an odd feature to include

[brisk jolt]

full 4k420 needs dp2.1 or DSC is used

[lethal topaz]

yes

[brisk jolt]

i dont mind DSC but its still something to account for

[lethal topaz]

i am using dp 1.4a on 1440p 540hz

dsc is fucking amazing

[lethal topaz]

do you have a 50 series card as well then?

[brisk jolt]

yes

[lethal topaz]

GL hitting 4k240 on that

[brisk jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193840159358976/1481915275858415739/0AFC5196-3FC4-4100-B996-41EAF73ECCFD.gif

[wise bear]

https://jobs.mchire.com

[low sorrel]

wen play arc raiders, nuclear option or ready or not

[low sorrel]

i lost it all.

why the fuck are there so many people just sitting in the water treatment control ratting

@brisk jolt @edgy laurel ||FERRARI 1-2 INTO TURN 1||

||FUCK THEY LOST IT ALREADY||

[pallid marsh]

Maybe McDonald's will take Jerry since bk didn't

[brisk jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193840159358976/1481915275858415739/0AFC5196-3FC4-4100-B996-41EAF73ECCFD.gif

[inland dome]

I think I've found stability, just reducing the boost clock to effectively the base cpu boost limit of 5.3ghz with a -15 CO did it

Will gradually raise the boost clock back to stock pbo limits, feel 5425 will be the highest I can push it

[merry stirrup]

with which one 5070Ti

[gloomy vault]

i going to try and find tmr

sponsor my travel fee

Taipei mrt is NOT cheap

[brisk jolt]

i treat u one bbt of ur choice okcan

[gloomy vault]

ok

[brisk jolt]

not exceeding $10

[gloomy vault]

son

omg bless the place is kinda near me

sim lim of taiwan

[low sorrel]

@brisk jolt @edgy laurel

[gloomy vault]

u better answer my calls tmr

[brisk jolt]

tmr is when

what time

[gloomy vault]

like
2-4pm

[brisk jolt]

btw the 1000 nit mode on my oled sucks balls

[brisk jolt]

2-4pm ur time or my time

[gloomy vault]

singapore and taiwan are on the same time zone

[brisk jolt]

apa supa tiga

[brisk jolt]

ive never been to taiwan

[gloomy vault]

[gloomy vault]

i might look for the frieren 5070ti