tech-chat-2

[icy mortar]

@topaz veldt

[steel stream]

take one look, say it's AMD and put it in the garbage

[pure garnet]

2022

[icy mortar]

why is making fake discord message images so easy 😭

[steel stream]

other than the year apparently

[pallid marsh]

Just open discord in Google and use the inspect element tool

[merry stirrup]

yeah this is the plan

he does however have the nicest looking model imo

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/sunny-plate-suburb-throwing-the-plate-mad-gif-15801456

[icy mortar]

didnt wanna go through the hassle of logging in there tbh 🥀

[pure garnet]

fractal gave me like a 3 foot pwm extender

[merry stirrup]

for when you want to plug in fans to a different computer

while controlling them with your computer

[pure garnet]

i’m using it for my hub

because now i can have my hub by the psu and wired to a test bench 40 feet away

[merry stirrup]

lmao

[pure garnet]

it’s because the momentum fans included are all daisy chained together

[merry stirrup]

how do we feel about a 15 year old "Lepa" aio

[pure garnet]

so they’re assuming worst case scenario pwm placement

[icy mortar]

i think 5mall5nail5 is larping dlss knowleadge 💔 he aint awnsering

[icy mortar]

that block looks ancient

[steel stream]

nah he's helped me plenty with it in the past

[merry stirrup]

its minimum 13 years old

[icy mortar]

i wanted to provoke him 😭 why are you awnsering

[steel stream]

you wronged my friend

[icy mortar]

EHHH

I APOLOGIZED THOROUGHLY

commoner

[steel stream]

5nail is a gentle soul man

[pure garnet]

sell it to a fortnite kid for $40

[merry stirrup]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/LEPA-All-In-One-Liquid-CPU-Cooler/43353469

holy peak

[pure garnet]

bro you know it’s some flopslop when you got a walmart link

[merry stirrup]

i think im just going to give it to my homie who has a 2600 on an athlon stock cooler

as it somehow still works

or ill drink the fluid inside for superpowers

[pure garnet]

why yo homie on haswell

[icy mortar]

what is he even doing 😭 using windows XP?

[pallid marsh]

Are you refilling the fluid?

[merry stirrup]

2600

ryzen 5 2600

[steel stream]

floppaman 🗣️

[pure garnet]

tbf for a second i thought you mean the i7-2600

then i saw cooler

[merry stirrup]

this was the homie w/2 motherboards in his case and his gpu floating around

[pure garnet]

😭

[merry stirrup]

safe to say i have almost no interaction with the computer

so your guess is as good as mine

also guys the person who had the 45$ computer

with afformentioned lepa cooler

was an overclocker fo SHO

i look in the bios and theres a profile in there called "big bertha 4.8"

what a wonderful way to name it too

[merry stirrup]

first thing i noticed is that thermal throttling was off 💀

[pure garnet]

profile names tell a story

my wife staring at the ”8000 doesn’t work” in the bios menu

[merry stirrup]

LOL

[turbid locust]

real

@merry stirrup we convert to Linux tn yeah

[merry stirrup]

TONIGHT?!

[pure garnet]

have fun you two

[turbid locust]

scared?

[merry stirrup]

bro i have like 6 people coming over i dont intend on making sentences in a couple hours

[turbid locust]

Even funnier

[pure garnet]

also how is floppa going a month without tarkov or apex

[turbid locust]

I’ll drink with you, get me in the VC

[pure garnet]

is he gonna start playing words with friends

[merry stirrup]

LOL

[turbid locust]

He doesn’t play Tarkov anymore

[steel stream]

put macse7en on speakerphone with your friends

[steel stream]

scrabble

[merry stirrup]

and i played apex yesterday lol

[turbid locust]

Calling me by my full government name is crazy

[merry stirrup]

but tarkov is an off limits for me rn

[pure garnet]

mac6se7en

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/elf-will-ferrell-shout-excited-happy-gif-3570641

[steel stream]

oh shit my b for doxxing man

[merry stirrup]

the power some of us have

[steel stream]

doxx everyone floppa

[pure garnet]

floppas mom laughing at the big floppa on the rock auto box

[merry stirrup]

dox floppa?

[merry stirrup]

💀💀💀LITERALLY

[steel stream]

get doxxed idiot lol

[merry stirrup]

when i first swapped to floppa many moons and got a package she said “floppa?!” and i was like “oh yeah that’s me”

had to show her the funny cat and explain its nothing but that 😭💀

[merry stirrup]

FUCK.

also i’m just saying they’re insane animals

they like catch birds out the air in the wild

[steel stream]

pretty much any cat in the wild is just an insane predator

[merry stirrup]

real

they flick their ears and hiss to communicate they’re cute

[icy mortar]

arent they always hissing

[merry stirrup]

a lot of the time yeah

[steel stream]

they chill

[merry stirrup]

but that’s how they talk fr it’s not always a bad thing

equivalent of meowing

[icy mortar]

i know they do it, like rottweilers growl for no reason sometimes

but it still puts me on edge i kinda dislike it

[merry stirrup]

my rottweiler st. bernard (mix, that’s not the name) was the goat

[icy mortar]

st. bernard 😭

[merry stirrup]

her name was sasha she was a st. bernard rottweiler

[steel stream]

those are cool dogs

[merry stirrup]

quite large

not our biggest dog but she was pretty big

[icy mortar]

i have a boxer rn

[merry stirrup]

like 80 or 90 pounds at her largest

[icy mortar]

dayum

that dog could eat me prolly

[merry stirrup]

then we had my dog who was a german shepard mastiff

[steel stream]

i want a st. bernese if i ever get the opportunity to have a big dog

[steel stream]

oh that;s a big fuck

[merry stirrup]

he was about 120-140 pounds and as tall as me

yeah he was lovely

[steel stream]

the family dog is only 12 lbs at the moment lol, tiny thing

[merry stirrup]

lol

[steel stream]

yeah i'd either want a st bernese or one of those dogs that look like they are made of carpet

some real shaggy one\

[merry stirrup]

💀💀i like just large animals i wont lie

can be any flavor it’s just gotta be massive

[pure garnet]

yeah i got like a combined 40 pounds of fury with 2 dogs

they were not happy with the epoch delivery lady

[steel stream]

like one of these would be great

[steel stream]

what kind of dogs?

[pure garnet]

ones a mix of a bunch of stuff but mostly jack russell terrier and then the other is unknown

i think the other one is a chipoo but we haven’t bought a dna test to find out yet

because he’s like 15 pounds and all curly and everything

[steel stream]

nice

[topaz veldt]

Taking my daughter to MC tomorrow what do I get

[pure garnet]

blush macbook neo

[steel stream]

honestly yeah macbook neo

[topaz veldt]

Fuck a Macbook iPhone

Guise can I just say...

[edgy laurel]

I want one

[topaz veldt]

https://videocardz.com/newz/tenstorrent-tt-quietbox-2-liquid-cooled-risc-v-workstation-starts-at-9999-with-four-blackhole-asics

[steel stream]

oh damn nice

[topaz veldt]

months ago

[steel stream]

oh lol

[icy mortar]

he revived

[turbid locust]

@merry stirrup so uh yeah when we doing it?

[low sorrel]

ayo

[turbid locust]

[edgy laurel]

@frank zealot https://www.ifixit.com/News/116152/macbook-neo-is-the-most-repairable-macbook-in-14-years

[cosmic gazelle]

that, sir, is a light

[steel stream]

it's the eye of sauron!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/lor-lord-of-the-rings-sauron-lord-sauron-the-great-eye-gif-12438992

[merry stirrup]

rn my bedroom pull up

[steel stream]

pause

[cosmic gazelle]

unpause

[merry stirrup]

unpause

[steel stream]

also @edgy laurel

[merry stirrup]

rewind.
enhance.

[steel stream]

zoom in.
enhance.
zoom in.
enhance.
zoom in.

[pallid marsh]

No glue or tape for the batteries was a shock

[indigo walrus]

Stop. Wait a minute... Is that a pickle on the hood of that person's car? 👀

[steel stream]

emergency snack

[merry stirrup]

go to the bank and pull out them franks

[edgy laurel]

Got it. Stored forever.

[pure garnet]

what the flop is bro doing

[edgy laurel]

Now as long as you can actually get the parts AND they don’t do something dumb like ID them to each serial number, we’ll be in business

[shell void]

his ramadan abstinence is driving him nuts

[pure garnet]

apple has been selling parts for awhile now

[edgy laurel]

Oh ok good

[pure garnet]

certain components are serialized but https://support.apple.com/self-service-repair

[merry stirrup]

mac, clearly

jelly??

[pure garnet]

fin

[merry stirrup]

floppafin?

[pallid marsh]

The Canadian apple repair guy swapped the touch id guts 512gb to the non touch id 256gb and had no problems "other than the non touch id mobo lacks the connection for it"

[steel stream]

you know what this means? TouchID coming back to iPhone

[pure garnet]

i gotta take pics of the epoch when i get home

[steel stream]

fire ngl

[pallid marsh]

https://youtu.be/Ma3mJ2R6OXo?si=I-Ir67r3b9dSEHm6

[edgy laurel]

Pulsar update? https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/s/iKBGCFb2TI

[merry stirrup]

yeah i fw my dashboard

[pure garnet]

idk if anyone here has a north but the fact half the case has to slide to be removed was annoying me

especially that front bracket/cover thing

[edgy laurel]

5nail has one, not sure who else

[cosmic gazelle]

i buy superior taiwanese products

[merry stirrup]

kyoko and i have to keep having matching cases so ill buy an epoch here soon

[pure garnet]

fr

[merry stirrup]

give it like a week or two

[pure garnet]

it’s a nice case it’s just kinda compact

[merry stirrup]

hows ram temps?

[steel stream]

yeah thats the big downside

[pure garnet]

i didn’t get that far but cpu and gpu dropped 5-10c

[merry stirrup]

i mean i loved when my rig was in the d31

[merry stirrup]

hm okay cool yeah

[pure garnet]

i had work at 4 so i tried to crash it twice and then showered

[merry stirrup]

with the side panel on my shit gets toasty

system is stable but im edging like 80c on the cpu & 75 on the gpu

[pure garnet]

i actually have a spare 140mm fan if i want to use a megazord ram fan

[merry stirrup]

LOL

im 0 ram fan rn

[cosmic gazelle]

"im edging" floppa 2026

[merry stirrup]

and i have a side panel on

this is like the most normal my computer has been in a very long time

[pure garnet]

this was adobe valorant earlier

[merry stirrup]

incredible underglow i know

[pure garnet]

i ordered a new displayport cable because i needed one and my mom asked if the case was a waste then

like no i just had multiple issues

[merry stirrup]

😭

[merry stirrup]

p good

yeah im worried about cpu temps mainly

[pure garnet]

if you get the non xl the aio has to be intake so good cpu temps

[merry stirrup]

okie

[runic nymph]

Could anyone help me with my pc?

[merry stirrup]

dram light? did you try leaving hte pc on for liek 5 minutes straight

[runic nymph]

Yea

[pure garnet]

also if you get the epoch floppa pre run the eps cables

[merry stirrup]

try 1 stick

[runic nymph]

I did that

[pure garnet]

the cutout fractal left is terribly small

[merry stirrup]

huh

oh thats kinda L

[runic nymph]

I did that cram bs and now I can’t even get into my bios

[pallid marsh]

He spammed 3 chats don't help him

[merry stirrup]

oh ok

[runic nymph]

🇮🇱

[pure garnet]

wtf is cram

[cosmic gazelle]

i was gonna say that but i didn't want to egg him on lol

[runic nymph]

Dram

[pure garnet]

pull the watch battery on the board

[pure garnet]

unplug pc

[runic nymph]

CMOS battery?

[pure garnet]

prolly

[runic nymph]

The little silver coin thing

I did that

Ts is so annoying

[pallid marsh]

[cosmic gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-nick-nickelodeon-patrick-gif-17195320

[pallid marsh]

Size

[pallid marsh]

Want some cheese for your mushroom pizza?

[edgy laurel]

I'm down for all mushroom

[topaz veldt]

It's 3 oz

[frank zealot]

Clearly by a mile

[shell void]

the ten people that own a pulsar monitor are probably hype

jokes aside i do know a couple of people that bought one

[edgy laurel]

I feel like thats a tech I need to see in person

[icy mortar]

michael 👴

[shell void]

[pallid marsh]

Hold up that's per month not year

[cosmic gazelle]

it's for the ai video generator they made that does like video game gameplay and shit

[pallid marsh]

Oh that shit

[shell void]

30TB of cloud storage, youtube premium, google home premium, and then access to a dozen slop services

seems like a high price unless youre a professional sloperator

[shell void]

if acer ever releases the XB323QX then i might get it to try

that's the 32" 5K 165Hz glossy IPS with Pulsar that they announced a year ago and have delayed numerous times

[pallid marsh]

We have ai credits now

[edgy laurel]

hold up I was going to talk about that monitor

but professional sloperator is the greatest thing I've seen all day

bravo @shell void

[shell void]

vibe coders, prompt engineers, and sloperators

[digital plume]

whta is a promp engineer

[shell void]

sloperators that think they are engineers because they can vibe code by feeding prompts to LLMs

[cosmic gazelle]

Someone without a college degree that considers themselves an expert at something they know nothing about

also i'm on a live support chat right now and this dude's name is deadass "Pee"

that's wild

[digital plume]

and I'm tryna get into mechanical engineering

i hope I don't find any of these prompt engineers

[cosmic gazelle]

just gotta be good at math

[digital plume]

i like math but I'm not specifically good at it

[edgy laurel]

they have nothing to do with eachother

[digital plume]

i don't have that math tism

[cosmic gazelle]

I mean I wouldn't stand a chance in calc 3 but if you are good at studying you got it probably

[digital plume]

i do my best

i can always fail a class and take it next year

it's not uncommon in my country

[edgy laurel]

put that on a resume 😆

[cosmic gazelle]

The world in 2046 when all the architectural engineers vibe coded their blueprints

https://tenor.com/view/demolition-gif-20801919

[digital plume]

ai could have been so much better but oh it was so marketed as a human replacement

like yes having a massive index of entire generations worth of data sounds impressive

who thought it'd be a good idea to make it talk like a human?

[cosmic gazelle]

50% of people are below average intelligence. A fool and his money are soon parted. You fill in the blanks

[edgy laurel]

the people with all the money looking for the simplest way to make even more

[digital plume]

jesus christ

im a broken record player yet why's it now my turn to be an adult

[cosmic gazelle]

it's really not that bad if you have actual initiative and develop a skill that a barely functioning computer can't do

[digital plume]

i guess a computer can't really replace a mechanic

and there's a surplus of idiots who buy vehicles to rot

you're never catching me paying someone for an oil change

[edgy laurel]

I said that once

then you're in you're 30's, have a job, and want to spend your time elsewhere

[pure garnet]

yeah when it goes from hobby to maintenance item you take it somewhere

also at least here if you take it to the dealer for service they extend the powertrain warranty to lifetime

otherwise it’s 2 years

damn my amazon 5-10pm delivery window is in fact using the later half of the window

[teal orbit]

it said by 4 pm earlier today

typical amazon

[shell void]

im just now watching the latest FSR 4.1 versus DLSS 4.5 (Preset L) comparison from Timmy, and FSR is still noticeably worse at retaining texture detail and fine object stability in motion

(and the crowd goes mild)

[pallid marsh]

Fsr 4.1 closer to dlss 4.0?

[turbid locust]

more like DLSS 3

[little sequoia]

wait there's usbc stright to ethernet?? how does that even work lol

oh or the adapter is built into the housing

[icy mortar]

ay whats ur opinion on this?: #tech-chat-2 message

[edgy laurel]

he knows that happens

and it matters what you prefer

[shell void]

i hate 1440p monitors

[icy mortar]

yuh but in the past most of his opinions aligned with mine so its a good initial idea tho

[icy mortar]

huh why 😭

[edgy laurel]

so 10 years ago

[shell void]

pixelated asf it looks retro

[icy mortar]

WHAT

what are you on 😭
like, ill come back to you some time next week since i never really used 4k

but you sound schizo

[edgy laurel]

the 4K movement is upon us

[icy mortar]

i hope i wont regret my current monitor that im buyin with all the new technologies like 5th gen qd oled and tandem coming out🙏

[shell void]

i have the burdens of good vision, and knowledge

[icy mortar]

the only games where 1440p bothers me is in games with really really shitty AA

[shell void]

(my eyes actually suck but im good at using them)

[icy mortar]

man you still didnt awnser my shi tho 😭

[pure garnet]

1440p blows the most on the desktop

dragging a window from my 4k display to my 1440p side monitor is like entering the vga era

[shell void]

idk bro i havent tested every single upscaling factor with dlss on a 1440 display

[icy mortar]

amateur

[edgy laurel]

amateurs are using 1440p 😆

[icy mortar]

GIVE ME LIKE A WEEK DUDE 😭

[shell void]

i would assume that 816p->1440p still looks worse than 720p->2160p because the output resolution has less than half as many pixels

[icy mortar]

yeah but CNN is kinda schizo on 3.5 sooo, ill have to wait until i get my shit

[icy mortar]

im getting this one 💔 https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/asus/rog-swift-oled-pg27ucdm

why the fuck are ratings on RTINGS censored

this is agitating

[pallid marsh]

You need to pay the subscription, ai scraping them too often

[icy mortar]

yeah i just googled it, jesus christ dude

they btw appearantly spent 700K in 2025 for testing

wild

[edgy laurel]

is that including employee salaries?

[icy mortar]

son 😭

[icy mortar]

i think not, no

[shell void]

yippee the three most interesting TVs to me personally this year are queued up

[icy mortar]

The company spent over $700,000 in 2025 alone to purchase products for unbiased, independent testing.

[icy mortar]

seems to be one of the best currently so hopefully i wont regret it 🙏

[shell void]

yah that's the best 27" atm

[icy mortar]

mmmh do you prefer 32"?

now the question is how ill use my 2nd monitor, i was thinking of putting it vertically but I dont feel like drilling a hole into my wall to do that, ughhh

[shell void]

yes i do because i have a 36" deep desk

[icy mortar]

fair enough then, i sit pretty close to my screen so for me 27" is plenty

[shell void]

it's a sidegrade to FSR4

[edgy laurel]

this isn't a dig but trust me, ignorance is bliss

[shell void]

FSR4.1 has less smearing and better detail retrieval without any extra performance cost, but it has more flickering and instability

basically the same image quality tradeoff that you get when going from DLSS4 to DLSS4.5, but DLSS4.5 does a much better job with lower resolutions (with a higher performance cost) because theyre larger models

[livid flame]

Does FSR 4.1 have rdna 3 and/or rdna 2 support?

[shell void]

nop

if youre on rdna3 or rdna2 then your best option is still to try using the leaked fsr4 int8 dll with optiscaler

[livid flame]

Then it’s garbage to me. I spit on fsr 4.1

I mean I don’t really use fsr too much but options man, I want options.

[pallid marsh]

That would be too good of an idea for amd to implement

[turbid locust]

RDNA3 aged like milk jfc

[edgy laurel]

its not exactly a switch they can flip

[livid flame]

It’s funny how AMD went “shit best not add it because less fps” and Nvidia said “hold my beer, gonna tank 20series fps with dlss4.5”

[shell void]

AMD went on to make even better versions of that FSR4 INT8 DLL with Sony

theyre just giving RDNA3 users the finger

[pallid marsh]

I want official fsr4 on my steam deck damnit

[livid flame]

They definitely create INT8 entirely for version 1 and held it back because they were scared about lower fps backlash

[random flame]

I am really a one-and-only sometimes when it comes to this... Because for me, I have virtually no issues and only because I'm in a totally different group of AMD gpu owners. Lol.

[shell void]

to be fair nobody wouldve given a shit about the 9070 or 9070XT if AMD let RDNA3 cards use FSR4 INT8 right away

but that's their own fault for making new cards that arent really any faster than their last gen ones

[livid flame]

I don’t think AMD understand the consumer appetite for image quality over frame rate with upscaling

[random flame]

Which they almost did, but canned Big Navi sooo... Yeah.

[pure garnet]

buying radeon was willingly shooting yourself in the foot anyway

[edgy laurel]

what consumer appetite. all the kids care about is fps

[pure garnet]

rdna2 rt was terrible

and that was the most compelling gen they had

[livid flame]

Depends what you play tbh

[pure garnet]

retro gamers don’t need new cards

[livid flame]

If 95% of the time I don’t need upscaling and 100% of the time I don’t need RT. It’s fine.

[random flame]

Depending on what you do with your system anyway.
Though I do agree RDNA2 sucked in varying ways.

[shell void]

you could get a 7900XT for $650 new at one point which wouldve turned into an okay purchase if it allowed to use FSR4 INT8 officially

[random flame]

Though what really sucks is when you're on RDNA3 because now you're sandwiched in the middle with your upgrade options.

[pallid marsh]

That rt statement will change with time, like Indiana Jones needing raytracing to run officially

[shell void]

similar raster performance and power draw to the 9070XT with 4GB more vram

[fervent elm]

Getting an rdna 3 system soon
F

[livid flame]

Yeah when that comes I will be upgraded. Besides, I will keep the 7800xt for myself and give the upgrade to my son. I’m a comp gamer,

[pure garnet]

the 5700 xt aged like milk compared to the 2070 super and the xtx has aged like milk compared to the 4080

[livid flame]

I mean I play osrs, pubg and cs2. I don’t really need all that much. This will probably last like 10 years with those games

[icy mortar]

RT shouldnt exist imo

[pure garnet]

the only utility amd has is when you’re bad with budgeting and ran out of gpu budget

[livid flame]

What are you on about.

[random flame]

Well even then, it would've been worth it for the horsepower you got out of it and the improved encoding quality (even if technically the encoders were the same thing, just with way more bandwidth), not even having to bother with upscaling in general for most games, not just triple As only.

[livid flame]

RT has literally gave life to thousands of movies that would look dull as fuck otherwise since like.. I’m gonna say the mid 90s

[icy mortar]

TLOU1 and 2 are perfect examples of games with baked lighting that look better than most games with RT to me at least

[icy mortar]

obviously im referring to games 😭

[livid flame]

Adding that to games and then getting to the stage with games that movies is now.. some single player games going to look fucking amazing

[random flame]

And this statement has rapidly aged to dust for bringing up 2070 Supers, because a lot of them like mine are now starting to have problems early and die off and it hasn't even been that long since they launched.

[livid flame]

Right now it’s wishy washy so I really don’t care but 10 years? Yeah RT gonna be standard and probably awesome to the point you only notice games without RT

[icy mortar]

I feel that it just tends to make developers really fucking lazy if anything, exception is RE:R or cyberpunk or Metro exodus

[edgy laurel]

yo Stringer Bell being knighted is wild

[icy mortar]

but some games out there just have pretty shitty global illumination

[turbid locust]

If something being easier to implement that looks better is lazy then idk

[pallid marsh]

2060 super is the MSRP comparable both $399

[pure garnet]

i’m sure a few 5700xts have died to

[random flame]

It is possible to make better global illumination with hardware rt, it just... Depends on which engine and who exactly is implementing it.

[icy mortar]

My claim was heavily exaggerated but im just kinda upset with devs not putting in effort anymore in baked lighting

the issue is relying on RT/PT and that just gatekeeps great graphics to higher performance hardware

[random flame]

At least now they have a reason to care, but then... They're pushing this as hard as possible to be an industry standard till it broke the industry in terms of expectations.

[livid flame]

I remember when UE3 came and people said the lighting made games look plastic.

[pure garnet]

and the $299 2060 has better upscale

[turbid locust]

are we just not supposed to implement new technology so 1080Ti users can live forever or what

[random flame]

... And now they're being ruined by the double A category, proper remakes, and single/small team indie devs because triple A tried to be a massive corporate-pleasing business focused on growth projections instead of product quality.

[livid flame]

Tbh if devs are not doing baked lighting - it’s a massive positive

[shell void]

the alternative to raytraced reflections are screenspace reflections which are also very demanding to render, and have more obvious limitations (like disappearing when you angle your camera XD)

[livid flame]

You have no idea how many fucking hours it takes to do good lighting in goldsrc/source engine

[icy mortar]

dude i have a 5070 ti 😭 and im still struggling to run RT/PT on 1440p WITH upscaling,
tlou 2 on highest settings looking incredible i think with quality dlss or whatever i used was 120fps or whatever, just over 100 very well

[livid flame]

Same with UE4/5 tbh, that’s better but still days and days of development

[pallid marsh]

Upscaling with 6gb vram

[livid flame]

RT solves a huge financial, technical and development burden to allow games to be made better tbfh

[turbid locust]

I was playing Indiana Jones path traced on a 5070Ti no problem lmao

[icy mortar]

what settings?

[turbid locust]

4K High/Max

DLSS obviously

[livid flame]

Did he just complain about getting over 100fps with path tracing?

[turbid locust]

Yeah

[random flame]

Eh, depends on the game and what technically looks better versus the other in certain situations. Dynamic lighting meanwhile, I think some major studios could relearn some old tricks and such to see which ones work better today.

[icy mortar]

ye i gotta wait till i get my 4k monitor to comment on that though

[livid flame]

What is wrong with this guy

[icy mortar]

who 😭

[turbid locust]

Nvm diff game

[random flame]

You. Lol.

[random flame]

That comment, man.

[livid flame]

Fun fact is sometimes developers make unnatural lighting because it looks better to the player

[icy mortar]

I didnt though, i said "TLOU2" which doesnt use RT.

[random flame]

Yeah, and often times it does.

Doesn't always need to be realistic, it just needs to work well because visually it may even impede the actual experience we have playing the said game.

[pallid marsh]

Or in movies like lotr

[icy mortar]

these were two seperate statements, sorry if that wasnt well formulated

[livid flame]

I remember in HL modding days. We would do multiple light sources much closer to obstacles because the harsh shadow was much more immersive and it gave such contrast compared to what it should have naturally been

[turbid locust]

but yeah like folks are running RT on 30 series not much gatekeeping to be had now

[icy mortar]

in cyberpunk, balanced DLSS and PT i get like 60fps or something which, to me personally isnt playable

[pallid marsh]

Rtx 2060 raytracing is peak

[livid flame]

Also the amount of light sources you had to place, tweak and wait to render to get natural lighting was insane back then

[pure garnet]

i’ll take driver support and dlss on 6gb over 8gb on a dead card yeah

[random flame]

Don't want to make the raining section of the climb up Mount Olympus too dark to navigate, especially when you get mobbed by heartless along the way or there's chests dotting the map. It also defeats the point of using reflections in that section too.

[edgy laurel]

advancement is slow but continual https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-intel-join-microsoft-for-advanced-shader-delivery-confirmed-for-lunar-panther-lake-and-geforce-rtx-50

[inland dome]

Define struggling

[shell void]

intel yet again offering features before radeon

[livid flame]

Makes me chuckle when Microsoft do stuff with Nvidia yet purchase AMD hardware and develop on it for consoles

[pure garnet]

until we get a new ray reconstruction model path tracing blows anyway

[turbid locust]

FG, ggez

[livid flame]

It will have to be done with AMD otherwise project helix just gonna blow

[brave panther]

concepts of departments baffles and confuses you

[pure garnet]

lighting can be great but it’s too smeary to tell

[random flame]

Not like Nvidia's really offering anything in the range of performance Microsoft wants, apparently.

[livid flame]

Irony baffles and confuses you

[icy mortar]

tbh the issue is personal but:
i get like 110 with framegen which looks choppy, 3x framegen makes my base fps 48 or whatever which is...horrible (144hz) , ill come back when i have my new screen as said (4k 244)

[pure garnet]

it’s not really ironic that microsoft wants a company with a custom apu division to make a custom apu

[livid flame]

I do love that Nvidia literally sell a cheap shit ass APU to Nintendo. Like fuck knows how much Nintendo pay. Gotta be a bomb considering switch 2 pricing

[random flame]

Which to me sounds ironic, considering their current SoCs that evolved out of the Tegra series being somewhat beefy. There are times I'm surprised MS didn't consider them for this next generation too.

[random flame]

That old Tegra probably wasn't hard to respin to begin with.

[turbid locust]

Turn a couple settings down to make 2x 120fps then ggez

[shell void]

just stop trying to run pathtracing if youre unhappy with ray reconstruction and low framerate bro, there's no getting around it

[random flame]

It already existed in a few skus and it was Samsung who produced them, so all they had to do was work out a deal and Samsung probably took it because... Hey, more sales volume than before.

And Samsung really needed those sales. Lol.

[icy mortar]

yeah I kinda figured id either play RT since its less demanding or turn it off or look if it feels better on my new monitor when i use higher FG (since its higher hz) so ill wait a bit

[turbid locust]

or just like.. don’t expect to run maxed settings with a mid tier gpu

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-idk-iono-hands-up-gif-7122581203490458147

[livid flame]

Wait isn’t a 5070 a 4090? So a 5070ti should be like a 4090ti? Deffo gonna play games ultra settings, patch tracing, native 4k with 100+ fps then

[icy mortar]

why are we calling a 5070 ti mid-tier 😭

[pure garnet]

being incapable of turning a setting below ultra is a common disease

[turbid locust]

So like usually 70 class cards land in the middle of the stack

[pure garnet]

it’s quite literally the middle of the stack 😭

[livid flame]

Cause it’s upper mid tier

[pure garnet]

5090
5080
5070ti - you are here
5070
5060
5050

[livid flame]

Like tbh I consider a 5080 also mid

[icy mortar]

15% performance diff to a 5080 makes mid tier to high tier or what T-T
not that it matters (to me)

[pure garnet]

well i forgot the 5060ti but

[shell void]

here are the michaelsexy certified "optimizedTM" cyberpunk settings, these are what i play with most often

[livid flame]

No way a 5080 is top tier when the 4090 smashes it tbh

[icy mortar]

alr ty twin, ill steal

[pure garnet]

medium on a 5090 might be criminal

[turbid locust]

Like “low, mid, high” scales on current gen. The 7900XTX is mid tier now because it’s competitive with the current mid tier 5070Ti, yk

[pure garnet]

you gotta blow 800w and crank it

[shell void]

crowd density high murders your cpu and drops framerate to <100 on the city center highway

fov above 90 causes distorted fisheye effect

screen space reflections above medium start nuking performance

[livid flame]

If ya not pulling 800w are you even a rich man gamer

[pure garnet]

is preset l in the production nvidia app yet

i would try it in ffxiv but if the driver doesn't have it i dont think dlss tweaks works

[icy mortar]

me thinking "I have a 9600x so ill put it on max"

[pallid marsh]

And for all product performance 5090-4090 5080-4080super-4080-5070ti it's very low on the list

[inland dome]

It is, its like 66% or less of the top end's performance

[shell void]

i mean you can if you want to, but crowd density high drops me to 90fps in the city center with an overclocked 9800x3d

[livid flame]

I’d like to see flagships come down to actual gaming levels. None of this stupid amount of vram ya never gonna use to bump up the price

[icy mortar]

ye then id rather not

[turbid locust]

It’s cause you don’t have a 9850X3D

[pure garnet]

i don't think 32gb of vram on a $2000 msrp card was that bad of a package

[livid flame]

2000

[pure garnet]

https://jobs.mchire.com

[pallid marsh]

now $3600

[pure garnet]

last i checked the msrp didn't change

[shell void]

my 5090 is a skinny queen chilling at 230W

[pallid marsh]

Just the market price 😢

[inland dome]

I think its pretty bad, considering it's just double the standard for like 4 times the price just at msrp

[shell void]

not a gluttonous pig like some of your guys' cards

[livid flame]

Msrp =! Price of goods

[pure garnet]

5080 16gb for $999
5090 32gb for $1999
that's not 4x

[livid flame]

It’s not like 1999 when every gpu cost the same regardless

[pallid marsh]

I want to know who at Nvidia made the 5080 so weak

[turbid locust]

60% gpu util womp

[pure garnet]

the recent shortages didn't change the launch pricing

[livid flame]

Outside of FE the cheapest was like $2400 before taxes

[pure garnet]

outside of a model with global availability

[pallid marsh]

Asus had MSRP tuf cards

[livid flame]

And a 5080 cheapest was $1300

[pure garnet]

mac literally bought his aib tuf oc for 1999 😭

[inland dome]

5060ti has 16gb gddr7, msrp $429

[livid flame]

No one needs 32gb vram to game

[pure garnet]

you also don't need a 5090 to game

[inland dome]

5080 has 16gb gddr7, msrp $1000

[livid flame]

The problem is the stupidly high vram on gaming cards brings in high demand from professional users getting their needs cheap

[shell void]

lightwork for the queen

[turbid locust]

true story

[livid flame]

This then bumps up every single sku in price

[pallid marsh]

90 series is the new Titan class cards a mix of enthusiast gaming and productivity/development

[inland dome]

Which is where it kinda sucks, you either have a good amount of vram or there's actually gpus to buy in stock, cant have both

[pure garnet]

i'd much rather have a 32gb 5090 then another 24gb card

[turbid locust]

I don’t think I’ve ever had a game use more than like 18Gb lmao

[pallid marsh]

Turn up the fake frames setting

[pure garnet]

i've ran out of vram once but if i had the 90 i could've actually played like that probably

[livid flame]

Gamers buy the 5090 for the power not the vram tbh

[inland dome]

Of course, 16gb is what you need for any game, just feel that they could maybe fit a little more in their higher ends

[pure garnet]

5070ti is choked from the card before the vram

[inland dome]

^

[turbid locust]

I maxed the 5070Ti vram with Indiana Jones

[pallid marsh]

Because the 5080 was so fucking lack luster

[turbid locust]

Card had more to give, ran out of vram

[inland dome]

5080 is genuinely the worst deal over the midrange nvidia has this generation

[pure garnet]

in requiem turning on fg with pt dlaa just halved my fps from vram

[livid flame]

With PT, dlss and 4k I can see more than 16gb ram being used

[pure garnet]

if i had the 5090 it’d be doable though

[inland dome]

5080 is just 20% performance over a 5070Ti tops isn't it?

[pallid marsh]

4080 super ti

[icy mortar]

man my msi afterburner is pissing me off, the OSD is geeked out

[livid flame]

24gb to me seems like the upper most developers could push. Problem is, they cater to 8gb also. So they have to maintain a flow that can never push the upper boundary

[icy mortar]

i wanna see 1% lows

[shell void]

i dont understand the 5080 hate

[pure garnet]

hold on they’re gonna pull out their ampere die config chart

[inland dome]

With the current market it costs too much for the uplift, at least imo

[livid flame]

Worse than last years flagship, almost as pricey as a 4090 to buy, half cores of 5090.

[shell void]

it's half the price of a 4090 :p

[livid flame]

I mean if they kept making 4090s no one would have bought a 5080

[edgy laurel]

i just loaded into Cyberpunk. games only been running for 5 minutes and i'm standing still but 11.7GB are in use. 4K, PT, everything cranked but using DLSS Performance

[inland dome]

Its like a 40% price bump over the 5070ti for 15-20% more performance

[shell void]

and it's legitimately a better gaming GPU than the 4090 anyway

[livid flame]

I can see it in open world games with a lot of complex terrain

[edgy laurel]

speaking of I didn't remember getting 70ish FPS with PT and no framegen. nice

[livid flame]

Part of the problem is gamers also don’t see how much work developers do to limit stuff like vram usage, as do AMD/Nvidia

Borderlands 4 is a great example of bad development for vram tbfh

[edgy laurel]

great example of bad development period

[turbid locust]

Borderlands 4 is a giant POS

[livid flame]

Shit you won’t see for miles is rendered clogging it up

[pure garnet]

the kick me sign of video games is bad, news at 9

[pallid marsh]

$1599 4090 $999 5080

[pure garnet]

at $999 the 5080 isn’t too bad

[young void]

[inland dome]

Its true, most of the time people get like 30 fps because the game is terribly optimized (theyre using a 1080ti for a game that came out a whole decade after itself)

[pure garnet]

once you get out of msrp models it kinda dies though

[livid flame]

Can’t remember the last time I saw an 80 class this bad

[edgy laurel]

"optimized" used. i'm triggered

wtf did not mean to quote that

[livid flame]

“Quote”

[inland dome]

I think the 5080 was meant to be a terrible deal so they could sell more 5070Tis

[pure garnet]

anyone using a 1080ti in 2026 can just be ignored anyway

your decade old card isn't a topic of discussion

[inland dome]

I mean it quite literally makes the 5070ti look better than it is from my pov

[livid flame]

He’s not wrong.

[shell void]

i was replying to The Pringle who brought up current market pricing, people are still buying used 4090s for $2400 which is roughly twice the cost of a new 5080

and the 5080 is arguably a better gaming card

[inland dome]

I agree, 5080 is a bad deal but you could do as bad as a 4090

[livid flame]

4090 MSRP was £1499. 5080 £999.

Neither ever sold for that really

[pallid marsh]

Ah

[pure garnet]

$1599 real money vs $999 real money

[inland dome]

It feels like a reverse cannibalism though and I will repeat that, they must have intentionally priced the 5080 to make the 5070ti look better

[livid flame]

No

[shell void]

even at the intended $1000 and $1600 prices for their respective Founders Editions the 5080 was still over-hated

[pure garnet]

european market can either be cheaper or 80% more depending on the day and location it's not worth

[livid flame]

They priced it based on a new way of tiering - by core count %s that will pave the way forward in a static and predictable way.

[shell void]

i dont think it's weird for someone to bump up from $750 to $1000 because they want more performance, but don't want to go all the way up to a $2000 5090

[pure garnet]

core count % 😭

smoking a little too much r/hardware comment section

[livid flame]

I am confused they went straight from 100% to 50% of cores

[pallid marsh]

I just wanted the 5080 to be 4090 performance or at least lean closer to the 4090 then it does to the 4080 super

[inland dome]

I guess, its a metric less about the real world performance in games for a gaming gpu though, which can make the 5080 look like a bad deal for anything but a workstation

[livid flame]

Traditionally what we have seen but yeah. New way of structuring the tiers based on core count nerfed it

Still a good card, just not what we deserved.

[pure garnet]

it kinda just, does?

[pallid marsh]

3 years for a 11% bump in performance over a 4080

[pure garnet]

3 years for similar perf from half the area on the same node doesn't seem that horrid

at a lower cost

[tepid mason]

How much of a difference is it to go from a sata to a nvme

[pallid marsh]

Yes

[inland dome]

Core based pricing kinda makes sense, but youre getting like 50% more cores and a 50% price uplift but only seeing up to 20% more frames than the lower tier on a gaming gpu

[livid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-gif-8133663809373464680

[inland dome]

Coughing baby to nuclear bomb

[livid flame]

Convinced kyoko works for Nvidia customer support now

Some real bad takes

[pure garnet]

no i just looked at a graph

in 3 years i saved $600 for a pretty close gaming experience

[shell void]

4090 is only 15% more powerful than 5080 in techpowerup 3840x2160p testing, and that's while using 35% more power

use some DLSS and that gap narrows, let the 5080 use more power and it can match or eclipse the 4090

[pure garnet]

if anything the 9070 xt is more depressing since that got a node change for less performance

[shell void]

5080 is arguably a better gaming card than the 4090 for $600 less, people are just whiney

[inland dome]

Id rather a gaming gpu be priced based on the actual gaming performance, but then a 5090 would only have an msrp slightly higher than the 5080 does now assuming a 5070ti is the standard

[tepid mason]

I wish i had an nvidea card so i could use raytracing

[pure garnet]

why would the gaming performance of the 5090 change the msrp of the card

[pallid marsh]

Maybe I'm just holding on to the past too much, remember when we had the $500 rtx 3070 hitting 2080ti($999-$1199) performance with no upscaling nonsense

[pure garnet]

yeah i think holding onto ampere doesn't really show much here

you look at every other gen around it and the pattern falls apart

[inland dome]

Its better than pricing via a metric that doesn't affect the gaming market, just loading up cores and pricing based on that tells us nvidia cares more about data centers and crypto mining than anything

[shell void]

ampere was able to offer huge performance gains with oversized gpu cores because samsung gave away the wafers for free, it was a goated generation i agree

it sucks that the crypto boom and covid killed most peoples' chances at actually getting one for msrp though

[pure garnet]

it saved people from double the power fr

[inland dome]

I mean we have pro cards, the rtx 6000 for instance

[pallid marsh]

4080 was a 25% jump over the 3090

[inland dome]

The 5090 is a pro card in terms of pricing and a very good amount of the uplift is professional related rather than gaming based

[livid flame]

I’d disagree

[pallid marsh]

Now we have the negative -16% from the 5080 vs 4090

[livid flame]

Haven’t people hard limited the 5090 and only lost like 10% performance?

That’s not just professional gains. It’s a whopper of a card for games

[pure garnet]

you can also just see the inverse where shoving 800w into the card gives you like 6% more perf

[inland dome]

I mean the 5090 has over double the cores, over double the msrp, but notably less than double the gaming performance

[pure garnet]

compared to what

[icy mortar]

"huh, why does this 120 fps feel so weird" i says

[inland dome]

5070ti forgot to mention that, but regardless its priced more for the productivity than the gaming is where I'm getting at

[pure garnet]

a few % off i would still count as double ngl

[hoary hatch]

It's close enough

Performance scaling is unfortunately not linear

[inland dome]

I guess, but if its just double the performance and was priced like that the msrp would be $1500 still

[shell void]

youre also only looking at the cuda core count which is not the only factor for gaming performance

[turbid locust]

power limiting it to 450W drops it by like 7% lmao

[pallid marsh]

40"80 super just lowered the price basically right?

[shell void]

5090 is missing a significant amount of GB202's ROPs, and a quarter of its L2 cache which has a big impact on performance too

[pure garnet]

no

[pallid marsh]

Sorry 4080

[pure garnet]

oh 40 yeah

[inland dome]

Exactly the point, gaming doesn't use every single core but it's priced for the cores, and you could easily say its priced for processes that use all the cores

[pure garnet]

yeah it was the $999 reissue instead of just discounting

[pallid marsh]

$1300 was the regular 4080?

[pure garnet]

1199 i think

yeah 1199

[pallid marsh]

Yeah your right

[pure garnet]

it's a giant low yield die that doesn't have an equivalent

[inland dome]

Its not inherently a bad thing, but the pricing makes so much more sense when you look at it from a productivity standpoint than a gaming one

[pure garnet]

gpus aren't made just for gaming

someone buying a 5090 to run an ai girlfriend is the same sale as a 5090 gamer in nvidia's book

[inland dome]

I mean of course, we have pro cards for that

Im not saying its a bad thing, just that the 5090 is more of a pro card than a gaming one when you look at how its priced

[pure garnet]

you don't have to buy a pro card to open blender

[shell void]

im doing some math now, and the the performance per ROP scaling is surprisingly linear

RTX Pro 6000 has 1.714x the ROP count of the 5080 and is roughly 1.72x as powerful in games

could just be a coincidence

[pallid marsh]

We have 4060 level pro cards in the quadro stack xD

[pure garnet]

we got even worse than that if you go mobile

[shell void]

this gpu amuses me https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/rtx-pro-500-blackwell-mobile.c4285

it's only like 2/3rd of a RTX 5050

[pallid marsh]

[shell void]

that chart isnt really accurate for laptop gpus

[inland dome]

My RX580 would be destroyed by a laptop gpu 💀

[shell void]

they have the 5090 mobile listed as similar to a 5060Ti desktop which is not true

[pure garnet]

im pretty sure the tpu chart goes off the lowest tdp variant for mobile gpus

[pallid marsh]

Forgot we had sli mobile gpus

[shell void]

i dont think they actually test all of these laptop gpus, especially the quadros

[pure garnet]

no they pull data in

[shell void]

theyre doing guestimation and it's pretty inaccurate

[pure garnet]

their database has a bunch of other sites reviews

[shell void]

5090 mobile is almost a 5070Ti desktop, listing it as similar to a 5060Ti is not even close xd

[turbid locust]

me fr why do you think I’m going to Linux

compute workloads better in Linux

[pure garnet]

odd

[pure garnet]

i was actually learning blender to make ffxiv mods awhile back

i guess my gaming card is revoked and i must buy a quadro

since i also use the studio drivers

[inland dome]

Thats not at all what Im saying, Im just saying you're getting more out of the productivity the card gives you for the price you paid for it

[pure garnet]

i think it's based off this low end model

[pallid marsh]

Or a Titian/90

[inland dome]

If anything its better you use a 5090 for productivity

[pure garnet]

i gotta wait for michael to upgrade first

[shell void]

kyoko waiting to snipe the 5090 master for $1500 rofl

[pallid marsh]

Michael buy Blackwell 6000

[inland dome]

I wouldnt get a 5090 if I had the money if all I was gonna do was game on it, from that standpoint I just dont think they're worth it

[pure garnet]

im google rn if it actually fit in my case

[shell void]

probs not

not with the front rad anyway

and maybe not even with front fans

[pallid marsh]

5090 kept you warm this winter?

[turbid locust]

Depends on your expectations

[pure garnet]

those are in a separate chamber

[turbid locust]

my performance expectations required a 5090

[pure garnet]

it might just like just barely fit michael with the rad

your card is 22mm longer than my dragon

[shell void]

my setup as a whole keeps my room heated yeah

[pure garnet]

nah wait nvm

[shell void]

between the TV that im using as a monitor, my speakers, two computers, sub, whatever else

[pure garnet]

i'd need a air cooler

the 6090 psu fallacy is getting me

[shell void]

my setup is at 270W right now just listening to music and texting you guys

i think the display and speakers are half of that

this oldschool woled tv is a power pig

[pure garnet]

my displayport cable is 7 stops away

[shell void]

porting your display harder than last time

[inland dome]

I expect at least similar fps/$ ratio I mean, its typical but the 5090 just costs way more than the performance you gain at market value

5070tis can be had at $1000, 5090s typically go for over triple that at just under double the performance

[pure garnet]

i’m ngl this argument kinda fell part to me when you said you had an rx580

[inland dome]

I have a 5070ti, I had an rx580

Hence the baseline being what I have

[pure garnet]

is that not an arbitrary baseline

[pallid marsh]

I should make a polymart bet to see if the 6090 tbp will be higher or lower than the 5090

[inland dome]

5070ti performance per dollar isnt great either, Im just saying its that much more significantly worse on a 5090

[pure garnet]

that’s every halo card

[pallid marsh]

5070ti was the best performance per dollar wasn't it?

[cosmic gazelle]

outbid on the 4350g 💔

[inland dome]

Which again, Im aware is the trend

[inland dome]

In this generation I would tend to agree

[pure garnet]

i think technically on a chart it’s one of the 60ti models

[inland dome]

This gen I would say its probably between the 5060ti-5070ti range

[edgy laurel]

this is stimulating and all. i just play games

[inland dome]

There it is, 5060ti this gen, surprising for the 3070 though

[pallid marsh]

Ah

[pure garnet]

those are used prices for 30 series

[inland dome]

B580 is no surprise though, that thing is really impressive and I've known that

[inland dome]

I was considering used with older gens tbf, like what you'd expect to pay now or at least when I got my 5070ti

When I got the gpu it was just $800, 3070 was like $350 tops then or something

[pure garnet]

the used market cannot be used as a factor on new products pricing at msrp

it’s not stable at all

[pallid marsh]

5070 at MSRP $550 I guess is

[pure garnet]

4060 graph looks hilarious

[inland dome]

MSRP specifically its definitely more in line, I would probably say go for the mid 5000 series gpus if everything is msrp

[turbid locust]

9070XT is the card to buy rn if you care about raster fps per dollar

[inland dome]

Good value... just no frames

[inland dome]

Raster in particular absolutely

[shell void]

screen space reflections are so silly

[turbid locust]

5070Ti was the card to buy until prices randomly jumped

[shell void]

peekaboo ahh reflections

[pallid marsh]

I'm a little salty I bought a $610 9070xt over a $750 5070ti

[pure garnet]

alright pricing is boring let's talk about the 4060 strix

[inland dome]

I will say this with absolute agreement, my 5070ti was like right there at msrp if not just slightly above

[turbid locust]

yeahhhhh

[pure garnet]

this might be the funniest graphics card asus has launched

[pallid marsh]

Strix 4060

[inland dome]

My eyes arent so good at noticing artifacts from 4x mfg, but they do notice the raytracing, so I can reasonably argue to myself that the 5070ti clears the 9070xt with ease

[shell void]

Galax was even sillier back in the day

(i know this is for 750Ti XOC records but it's still amusing)

[edgy laurel]

3060 STRIX existed too

[inland dome]

Thing looks like a brick

[pure garnet]

power consumption on that card was at least higher

the 4060 is like a 116w laptop gpu

it doesn't even have proper power reporting circuity bc it's so low end

[inland dome]

They shouldve sold it as a tuf, maybe get asrock to drop it for them

[turbid locust]

assrock

[pure garnet]

holy shit LMFAO

[pallid marsh]

8gb 4060ti is $399

[inland dome]

Man is glazing the floor

[pure garnet]

i will buy a 4060 strix one day

[edgy laurel]

buyer checks out

[pure garnet]

it is my favorite gpu

[edgy laurel]

can't forget to not block the RoG logo on your 4060

[inland dome]

Then they go to drop this little tidbit

[pallid marsh]

It was literally $10 off from a msrp 4060ti

[edgy laurel]

might forget what card it is

[pure garnet]

seeing that giant heatsink cover up that laptop part is just peak

[inland dome]

Like its just a normal graphics card in terms of installation? What is he even talking about?

[pure garnet]

my friend was sad his pny 5070ti didn't say the model on the side because he came from an evga 3080

[inland dome]

Glazing rog to glaze rog

[pure garnet]

meawhile my build has like 4 msi dragons visible when i look in it

[inland dome]

I have a pny 5070ti, happy it fits in my case and has some rgb I guess

[pallid marsh]

They could've spent $10 more to get a faster 4060ti no overclock needed

[inland dome]

Oh my god the 4060ti is $10 more than this too 😭

[edgy laurel]

STRIX 4080 for $1600

[inland dome]

Worth

[pure garnet]

you're learning why this is my favorite card

[wraith steeple]

[pallid marsh]

$390 4060 strix. MSRP 4060ti is $399

[inland dome]

Its strix, therefore it is 1 tier higher than it actually is

[edgy laurel]

the buyers believe it

[inland dome]

Wow, just goes to show rog knows their audience

[edgy laurel]

again, that tracks

[turbid locust]

I would pay extra money for a completely unbranded gpu

[inland dome]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-wegeekinghard-blud-tiktok-animatronic-tweaking-gif-18331326635054461479

[turbid locust]

solid black shroud please

[inland dome]

These people are all morons 😭

[edgy laurel]

dell has you covered

[turbid locust]

thank you dell

[edgy laurel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dell-dude

[pure garnet]

buyers remorse

[inland dome]

Unbrand my power supply too while theyre at it

[pure garnet]

why did you buy it then 😭

[inland dome]

Its overpriced but I cant drop the rog!!!!

[edgy laurel]

glad they figured all that out after purchase

[pure garnet]

wait look at the gpu they replaced it with

[turbid locust]

Most cases hide PSUs so idc

[pure garnet]

no fucking way

strix 4060 -> yeston waifu 7800 xt

[pallid marsh]

Ain't the waifu cards $100+ over msrp

[inland dome]

The hell

[pure garnet]

😭

[edgy laurel]

unless you're Asus.. and you buy their PSU (lets be honest its kinda cool)

[inland dome]

Is that thing SAGGING?

WAIT WHERES THE SLOTS

[pure garnet]

the card drive just balanced in the case is hilarious

[inland dome]

THEY TOOK EM ALL OFF

[edgy laurel]

this one

[inland dome]

Ok its cool but like come on

[edgy laurel]

I hate to love it

[inland dome]

I expect nothing less from a rog guy

Guys should I sell my pny 5070ti and get a $1600 rog 4080

[pure garnet]

yeah for aura reasons

[shell void]

it is a very pretty psu

[edgy laurel]

yeah

[inland dome]

Also does that read 1816W

[pure garnet]

the completely missing rear exhaust is pissing me off

[inland dome]

Am I reading that right

[edgy laurel]

yes, from my favorite video on the internet

[inland dome]

Does that change with how much its supplying or did they specifically make it an 1816w psu

Either way Im scared

[pure garnet]

it shows live load

[pallid marsh]

$650 card, a regular 7800xt was $500, 4070 super was $600

[pure garnet]

yeah but waifu

[edgy laurel]

https://youtu.be/V9FTAQxBsww

[shell void]

where exactly do the front fans pull air from? XD

[inland dome]

What the hell kind of pc needs almost 2 kilowatts??

[pure garnet]

there's a slit in the side of the case

not even kidding that's how the h510 elite gets air

[edgy laurel]

well, when your 4090 is pulling 1500w..

[inland dome]

What the hell kind of 4090 needs 1500w????

[edgy laurel]

you keep saying need

😆

[pure garnet]

you can see the slit here @shell void

[inland dome]

Its just for aura???

[edgy laurel]

leaderboards

[inland dome]

(High electricity bill)

[pure garnet]

you know you want it

[pure garnet]

@merry stirrup

[inland dome]

What is msi even about

anime girl that looks like it belongs on one of their monitors

[pure garnet]

wait till you see my bootlogo

[pallid marsh]

It would look good in my all black build

[pure garnet]

w socket cover

[inland dome]

I do like the screwless m.2 slots and stuff but still

[pallid marsh]

Is she in the bios too?

[inland dome]

Come on with all that

[pure garnet]

yeah she's literally everywhere

[pallid marsh]

Uwu

[pure garnet]

every screen of the bios, even the flash mode

the boot logo is a signature of her name

[inland dome]

She better be in the bios, hell they should include a custom windows installation with her as the default background

Just spam that bs everywhere

[pure garnet]

apparently if i install msi mystic light i can change the color of the motherboard rgb

if it has onboard memory i may be willing to do that just to have it match

[arctic bronze]

WuW

[pallid marsh]

I forgot MSI has the extra 8 pin for no real reason

[inland dome]

That thing on the bottom?

[pure garnet]

malware incoming

[pallid marsh]

Yeah for pcie power or whatever

[inland dome]

Is that meant for the cpu or something?

I genuinely need to know what that is supposed to be powering

[pure garnet]

it's for the pcie slots if you ran multi gpu

but they put it on everything including boards that only have 1 real slot

[edgy laurel]

additional 8-pins near the PCIe slots are typically for PCIe slot stability in multi GPU setups

[inland dome]

Did this come out before or after SLI died?

[edgy laurel]

its been a thing for a long time

[pure garnet]

yeah i might just reinstall windows after this

[pallid marsh]

https://www.msi.com/news/detail/MSI-Unveils-the-World-s-First-ATX-3-1-Ready-Motherboard--Designed-for-Next-Gen-AI-Computing-144544

[inland dome]

Yeah I just never had the kind of money to be bothered about that

Aaaand its for ai, no wonder

No other reason to have multigpus these days ig

[pure garnet]

a random cmd box has opened

[pallid marsh]

Sli 5090 would be fun

[pure garnet]

the english has not gotten any better

[inland dome]

Thats how you know its good

[edgy laurel]

load a board up with PCIe cards, you can run the risk of bumping up against what the 24-pin can safely supply

especially if they are overclocked GPU's

[inland dome]

Ah so its just there so you don't suffer the consequences of your greed

[edgy laurel]

have to remember, people were benching SLI 3090's not that long ago

[pure garnet]

wait holy shit the board does have rgb

[inland dome]

Does it beat 4090 performance?

[pure garnet]

now the dragon is in rainbow mode and it won't open

[edgy laurel]

uhh, lets look at 3Dmark leaderboards

[inland dome]

Dear god

[low sorrel]

gulity have you watched the pitt?

[pure garnet]

oh im so down

[inland dome]

Oh my god

Who in the hell even is this

Why does msi love her so much

Feel like Im 80 but Im just not in the msi loop

[pure garnet]

i own the waifu board

[low sorrel]

maybe?

[pure garnet]

so i get the waifu rgb option

[edgy laurel]

top 10 for Port Royal dual GPU

[low sorrel]

i can't find 4090s

[low sorrel]

hey

[edgy laurel]

dual 3090Ti's can't touch single 5090's

[pallid marsh]

Look in China vram upgrading facilities

[pure garnet]

okay the second i uninstalled msi center the board lost rgb control

[inland dome]

Well damn, I dont see a non sli gpu on here

[low sorrel]

loses to single 4090

[inland dome]

This surely means 2x3090ti is the ultimate gamer setup

[edgy laurel]

well no, becuse you can't play any actual games like that

[inland dome]

Yeah I know that much but its still funny

[edgy laurel]

thats actually interesting

[pure garnet]

ever since i ditched the riser my pc is posting a lot faster

guess it was broken

[inland dome]

Think the riser might have been an issue

You need a riser though, how else will you go side panel free to heat your room up

[pure garnet]

it's possible

[inland dome]

I want all my case fans to blow out of the missing side panel so I can get burnt

Oh yeah, thats pretty good correlation I think

[edgy laurel]

yeah but what are the actual failures, gotta read below that

[pure garnet]

i read allthe dumps guilty it was the nvidia driver each time

[edgy laurel]

ah

[pure garnet]

i then ddu'd in safe mode from studio to grd and then back to studio when grd didn't solve it

has yet to occur since i got the epoch

[edgy laurel]

i got dumb shit, like redlauncher.exe crash, or steamhelper

[pure garnet]

yeah you have 0 windows failures listed

[low sorrel]

correction i am wrong hall of fame defualts to a different 3d mark benchmark

[edgy laurel]

yeah i was looking at port royal

[pure garnet]

windbg is an underrated diagnostic tool

[inland dome]

So Ultra 270k+, how are we feeling about that

[low sorrel]

uhhh

[pure garnet]

bro 💀

[pallid marsh]

I think 2020 start was Jedi was the last sli supported triple A game

[low sorrel]

I don't think my pc is perfectly stable

[low sorrel]

this is at defualt settings and just xmp enabled

[pure garnet]

@turbid locust jerry is worse than me

[edgy laurel]

damn guys, fix your pc's

[pallid marsh]

He knowingly ran unstable ram oc

[inland dome]

Rip sli, your loss wont be noticed

[inland dome]

What the hell is going on

Does your pc boot?

[edgy laurel]

hmm, what can I do with this

[low sorrel]

i have no clue

[pure garnet]

it reads the dumps that windows saves

[low sorrel]

how exactly would i be able to get into reliablity history in windows if it doesn't boot?

[pure garnet]

like when you bosd you can open that dump and then go and read what driver caused the crash

[inland dome]

Secret tibetan monk technique idk

[turbid locust]

Mines stable

[pure garnet]

for now

bros installing linux

[low sorrel]

what this mean?

[inland dome]

My -20 CO +200Mhz is feeling pretty stable

[inland dome]

Means you turned it off wrong

[steel stream]

until you install linux

[edgy laurel]

it means what it says

[turbid locust]

How would Linux make it unstable

[pure garnet]

the os will just be unstable

[steel stream]

idk but itll happen

[inland dome]

Windows is the glue that keeps Mac's pc stable

[turbid locust]

Windows schmindows

[low sorrel]

I wonder if it's when i go to bed and press the power button and for some god damn reason it doesn't turn off so i have to get my ass back out of bed and hit it again

[pure garnet]

yes bro that's literally what it is

[inland dome]

Yeah if its not turning off when you press the power button thats not a proper shutdown

[edgy laurel]

I have my power button set to sleep, but I never use it

[inland dome]

Software shutdown ftw

[edgy laurel]

win>up>right>enter>down>enter 🤣

[low sorrel]

idk what causes it tho

[inland dome]

My power button is only for turning the pc on, and in dire circumstances turning it off

[low sorrel]

it's just cursed

[pallid marsh]

clicks update and shutdown windows nah I will update and reset

[low sorrel]

it happens on both my pcs

[turbid locust]

Post work Guinness

[low sorrel]

in 2 compeletely different houses

[inland dome]

"Shut down? What is this?"

[edgy laurel]

this actually works for me. trouble is to update, it has to run part 1, reboot, then do part 2. Eventually it always shuts down though (for me)

[pallid marsh]

Damn didn't know you were rich

[inland dome]

When youre in the dark and you open a white page and it just

https://tenor.com/view/ash-baby-gif-7280845142657635823

[low sorrel]

thats a few kernal powers

pbo isn't even enabled

[inland dome]

Jesus

Oh could anyone explain windows booting sometimes and deciding I actually have a widescreen monitor?

[low sorrel]

thats not all of them

[inland dome]

Your pc must start shuddering when it knows its time to be powered off

[pallid marsh]

How many were from your ram OC crashing bf6

[inland dome]

Like 1/3 the height of the monitor filled with display, stretched out in such a way that its gotta be an UW

[low sorrel]

none

[pallid marsh]

[low sorrel]

i swapped motherboards and reinstalled windows like 3 months ago

[turbid locust]

proper ram oc takes several hours most people aren’t willing to commit

[pallid marsh]

Oh

[inland dome]

Just keep changing numbers until it works 🙏

[low sorrel]

and i haven't done any mem oc since then because im a lazy fuck

[inland dome]

Yeah I will not be doing memory oc

Getting my pbo to function is already enough

[pallid marsh]

... New mobo but not gpu you put me in so much pain

[turbid locust]

you… you turn PBO on…

like it’s on or off like

[low sorrel]

I think he's talking about CO

[turbid locust]

-10 call it a day