tech-chat-2

[edgy laurel]

Little bobby playing valorant in his basement isn't going to go pro because he got a keyboard

[steel stream]

how long till Guilty starts rugpulling memecoins

[low sorrel]

let bro dream

[frank zealot]

#KeyboardCoin

[shell void]

it does let you have faster strafing which is beneficial for fps games, and analog boards are cheap nowadays so i dont understand your negative reaction whenever someone asks for one

[edgy laurel]

No negative reaction for wanting one if they're cheap, but trying to help educate these kids that they're not going to suddenly be better at games becuase of a keyboard

[lethal topaz]

HE is the only difference ive noticed between keebs

other than the feeling of switches anyway

[steel stream]

the $300 GMMK PRO has ruined him

or whatever board he has

[lethal topaz]

fuck glorious

i hate glorious keyboards so much

[low sorrel]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009175019320.html?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009014694884.html?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009016759666.html?

[analog scroll]

I have a Havit Magic Eagle and still prefer to game on a piece of crap I got from the dollar store purely cause I like the dollar store one more

[low sorrel]

any of these will be fine™

[shell void]

i still have an oldschool 1KHz mechanical board because i barely play games and im too lazy to part out a new one

[low sorrel]

gulity never beating the grumpy old man allegations

[steel stream]

how dare you send an aliexpress link after 🐐 bauer got scammed by them

[lethal topaz]

aluminum frame HE for 43 dollars???

[edgy laurel]

once you live a little longer you realize how much bullshit there is out there

[merry stirrup]

the 45$ fx 6850 pc works

[frank zealot]

For a keyboard to make a difference in gaming Performance, the user has to be at a level where it might actually impact their reaction time. For 95%+ of gamers... it's just a prettier keyboard.

[merry stirrup]

downside:the fx pc works

double downside, its a 4300

[edgy laurel]

stuff I believed when I was 20 its laughable now

[low sorrel]

yeah and aliexpress is still massively over charging

[merry stirrup]

i definitely made money on this but not nearly as much as i wanted

[low sorrel]

you can probably get this for 20 from taobao

[frank zealot]

100% this

[shell void]

it's a significant enough advantage that valve banned it entirely

no it's not going to carry you to the top rank, but it does help

[steel stream]

"the girls are super into my computer setup"

[frank zealot]

Say wat?

[lethal topaz]

i just got a new monitor.
its not gonna make me better
but it does make me happier
and now i am at double the refresh rate of what most people play at

[low sorrel]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/20/24224261/valve-counter-strike-2-razer-snap-tap-wooting-socd-ban-kick

[lethal topaz]

i wasnt hitting my potential cap at 240hz

so im not gonna be better on 540hz

[shell void]

it makes your strafing so much faster that it was a huge competitive advantage in CS2 due to how their movement gun spread mechanic works

you could get shots off way faster

[fervent chasm]

I don’t think this supposed to be like that

[lethal topaz]

when your move speed is zero your spread is zero.
rapid trigger allowed you easily counter strafe to zero your move speed instantly.
this was only easy before with null binds, which were already banned

[low sorrel]

I really like my 6063 cnced keyboard i got for ~50 usd i got from taobao

[frank zealot]

That's companies adding macros to keyboards, not just better response time

[lethal topaz]

holy shit this guy knows his alloys

[karmic folio]

null binds literally prevent counter strafing lmao

[lethal topaz]

how about a keyboard made of arc alloy huh?

[low sorrel]

ehhhh

[karmic folio]

so they just made it even worse

[low sorrel]

well all he boards have this feature these days no matter if you call it a macro or not

[karmic folio]

learnt this the hard way

[edgy laurel]

ultimately that wasn't the point anyway. guy could only say he wanted it to be "quick, no delay". As if some commonly bought mech boards are going to have some delay he'll notice on keypress.

I'm not talking something measurable on an oscilloscope, but like real noticeable delay. This is a misunderstanding on a fundamental level of the performance of even basic keyboards in 2026.

[steel stream]

should be free, it was promised to me 3000 years ago

[lethal topaz]

how many ms of input latency from key press to action on your monitor do you think you can have before its noticible?

[low sorrel]

actually hold up what is arc alloy made of

[lethal topaz]

lmao

[frank zealot]

Membrane keebs seem to have an average latency / response time of 5-10 ms.

A decent mech board will be 1-2. Which is a potentially tangible change.

But also, that better time will also be on run of the mill mech boards, not just crazy macro HE boards

[edgy laurel]

Yeah thats the whole point and it was completely lost on everyone. Glazed over with HE malarky that wasn't even the topic of conversation.

I mean, whatever. They'll figure it out eventually, I guess

[frank zealot]

(And remember, frame latency at 120fps is 8.something ms)

[shell void]

the point of rapid trigger is to cut out the time of your slow human fingers unseating and then reactuating the key

which takes a lot of time

not shaving fractions of a millisecond of keyboard processing delay

[frank zealot]

But if you're using the keyboard to do button presses for you....

Why?

[shell void]

it's not a macro, youre still in control

this is like arguing against having dynamic triggers on a controller, and saying that they should just be either fully engaged or fully disengaged

with you having to fully press down the trigger every time

[frank zealot]

Analog isn't a concern.

Actuation points aren't a concern.

[cosmic gazelle]

dude

@merry stirrup have you seen the new laptops with lpcamm2 dimms that sit flush and just use contact pads and aren’t soldered

[shell void]

imagine if triggers on a controller just clicked and didnt have variable control, that would be stupid, and that's how traditional mechanical keyboards work xd

[cosmic gazelle]

actually so cool

[shell void]

im surprised it took this many decades for keyboards to finally evolve

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[frank zealot]

I don't think that anyone is arguing about analog

[low sorrel]

WTF thats so cool

[shell void]

i want a camm module

[next ginkgo]

wait what

either you interpret that all keyboards do button presses for you, or none of themdo

[frank zealot]

@next ginkgo

[next ginkgo]

tf

[frank zealot]

Neither

[shell void]

he's thinking of rapid trigger like a macro when that's not what it is

[next ginkgo]

rapid trigger is basically "if I hold left then it's left, if I hit right then that's the latest persisted command till it's lifted up, which the left command is still there."

[low sorrel]

question is socd just basically a emulating a keyboard with 1 key roll over?

[next ginkgo]

that's insane but ig it makes sense

[next ginkgo]

for directions yeah

well, sort of. not really actually since both keys are being detected still.

it's basically just a lifo data structure

the last input is the first one that'll be put out

or in this case, because the two opposing directions are polled at the same time, it'll be the only one that's put out per poll

[noble geyser]

Hello, i was wondering if anyone had any good recommendations for like not meta glasses since they are like 300$ but maybe recording glasses that are 150$ and under, im just trying to do like maybe a few minutes of recording maybe longer idk how long glasses can really record for. I want to record my facebook deals and me building pcs please let me know, thank you.

[upper horizon]

Throwback

First GPU

[cosmic gazelle]

i’m thinking about buying a shitty chromebook for $9.99 to test out the UEFI OS replacement projects people have been working on

[indigo walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/arrested-development-bananas-gif-27425691

Except replace "banana" with "shitty Chromebook" 🤣

[cosmic gazelle]

never mind, the one i was gonna buy has a charger that costs more than the laptop itself

here i thought they all had type c, apparently not

[final flint]

what fsr version does the 7900xt ues

[edgy laurel]

officially locked to FSR3

janky FSR4 if you're willing to figure out optiscaler

[final flint]

do you think it will be able to run crimson desert at 1440p once it comes out

[fringe vigil]

wb 4090

[edgy laurel]

huh?

[edgy laurel]

your GPU is quite a bit faster than 7700xt listed there for 1440p60

how long have you been a member here jorj

[final flint]

my cpu is a 5700x3d so its under the recommended but it seems like the game will be gpu bound so do you think it would run fine

[upper horizon]

Yeah?

[edgy laurel]

your CPU is on par with the recommended in gaming tasks. or near enough that it wont be an issue

[upper horizon]

5700x3d is great did 3 pcs with them

Wish I could buy more of them

[upper horizon]

You'll run into a GPU issue before cpu issue

Especially at 1440p

[final flint]

sorry meant the high preset but i get what your saying

[final flint]

ok

[edgy laurel]

nobody puts 5700x3D on these charts but you can surmize based on known performance

you'll be fine

[upper horizon]

Thats with a 4090 ^

So youre totally fine like I said you'll run into a GPU issue before CPU

[edgy laurel]

irrelevant if you understand CPU game testing

[final flint]

no its with a 4070

[upper horizon]

Its says 4090 top right

[upper horizon]

Not what I'm referring too

[merry stirrup]

@civic reef i am case swapping the r12

[edgy laurel]

Again, completely irrelevant. Don't mislead them.

[final flint]

ok thanks

[edgy laurel]

The GPU used in a CPU gaming performance graph doesn't matter

[upper horizon]

I'm not misleading anyone I said they would run into a GPU issue with performance before CPU if they have an 7700xt

[upper horizon]

I'm not even referring to the graph

[upper horizon]

I was making the relevant to the sense he has a 7700xt but yes its a CPU benchmark so it doesn't matter

👏

[edgy laurel]

Fact of the matter is their 5700x3D / 7900xt is perfectly inline with the High / 1440p preset of the official recommendations.

[upper horizon]

nvm he has a 7900xt I didn't see the message properly on my monitor

oh well

also never disagreed

amazing

[hoary hatch]

It feels wrong to say that I sometimes miss working nights

[next ginkgo]

imagine your first gpu being from the 2010s. little baby

[upper horizon]

Lmao

[next ginkgo]

jokes aside that's pretty cool

[upper horizon]

Well I had a 512mb GPU in a prebuilt athlon x2 pc

I was 7

But I ran an Athlon x4 860k with an R9 280x for a hot minute in highschool

[hoary hatch]

I was cross shopping 280x and 960 for my first gpu

No wait, r9 285?

[topaz veldt]

Man PCs are cheap compared to plants

[low sorrel]

@wise bear https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1144200/view/532125218178599593?l=english

[wise bear]

god thats a big fucking update

ty for the alert, I didn't get notified about it

[brisk jolt]

@wise bear dont you use the milky looking keycaps

[wise bear]

the frosted halves?

[brisk jolt]

yeah

[brisk jolt]

frosted sides and solid top

[wise bear]

yea I love it tbh

[brisk jolt]

how’d they look without RGB

[wise bear]

i dont have the keeb software installed

otherwise i'd show it

Pretty in the dark, though

[brisk jolt]

im thinking of copping the white vers

[wise bear]

would you like a link to the brand i used

[pure garnet]

pudding keycaps

i haven’t seen those in awhile

[brisk jolt]

nah im grabbing them off taobao

[leaden dawn]

Oh boy free dlc if a friend happens to own it and they happen to want to play it with me.. aka another thing to sit in my wishlist for a couple years

I gotta get swat 4 fixed so I can finally play it lol

[nimble pike]

Any hard drive experts in the chat?

[merry stirrup]

the r12 has been case swapped successfully

do you know how annoying to solder to a USB 3.0 header

because it fucking blows

[nimble pike]

Alienware?

I know someone with... an R8? And someone I game with has an R13 for reasons?

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[nimble pike]

Good luck

[merry stirrup]

its already done

this was the only complicated thing i had to do, other than that i just made a couple of jumper wires and repinned the power button to fit the smaller pins for the front panel

thats not my picture, i only had to do that top connector for it not to error (i have a removable jumper on the front side, wanted to minimze soldering)

[pure garnet]

why was it erroring

[merry stirrup]

front io error

[nimble pike]

Was it worth it?

[merry stirrup]

im not the one paying me

[nimble pike]

Ahhh

At least it's not the version with gimped memory.

[livid flame]

Why is the EPS connected via a molex in this old 4770k build.

[arctic bronze]

@livid flame did you get my dm

from this morning

[livid flame]

Yes. I will get time to find it later. It sounds so bizarre I must see

[arctic bronze]

prepare bleach for ur eyes

[terse maple]

lmao wtf did you send him

[arctic bronze]

we was talking about a really nasty meme that was popular

the "incredible gassy" one

[terse maple]

ah I get it
you sent him it?

[arctic bronze]

no

someone sent a similar meme yesterday that started the topic

This

[terse maple]

yea I saw it

threw me off completely when I did the first time

[arctic bronze]

its so gross, I dont wanna see that

[terse maple]

I've seen the original due to my ass being too curious
glad you don't want to

anyways

[arctic bronze]

lol

[terse maple]

what you been up to

[nimble pike]

I love the case

[arctic bronze]

slaving away at the senior project

[nimble pike]

I love everything about this

[terse maple]

as expected

[nimble pike]

What all is in this? I must know

[arctic bronze]

I put in 31 hours in 3 days

[terse maple]

dawg

[arctic bronze]

yeah, I really wanted our midterm to go well and we did VERY well, we had many ppl come to us saying that we did awesome

:)

[terse maple]

awesome stuff then

[arctic bronze]

thanks lol, im just glad that part is over

[terse maple]

also I'm assuming you're tired af

31 hours in 3 days seems like a bit much

[arctic bronze]

true but it was needed to push this update that we presented today

[terse maple]

dedication

[arctic bronze]

this isnt the first time iv done this this semester XD

[livid flame]

Think it was 4770k 1660ti

[terse maple]

ultra dedicated

[nimble pike]

I love it. I want to see more of it.

I embrace the jank

[terse maple]

how many times then Lol

[arctic bronze]

iv done these long hours about 4 times

[terse maple]

Can't hurt for a fifth

[arctic bronze]

we are finishing up week 9 of 16 so there will most likely be more

:/

[terse maple]

damn

good luck if there will be

[arctic bronze]

but last semester tho

[arctic bronze]

thanks

[terse maple]

you'll need it

[terse maple]

:D

[arctic bronze]

:D

[terse maple]

[arctic bronze]

ay ya ya

[terse maple]

ayaya

[arctic bronze]

lmao

[terse maple]

[terse maple]

I love the little :D emojis

[arctic bronze]

https://youtu.be/9wnNW4HyDtg?si=dLN78oY-wQ6UBnlg

[arctic bronze]

yeah lol

[terse maple]

[terse maple]

saving this fyi

[arctic bronze]

oh wait did you not know about it? XD

[terse maple]

people need some whimsy in their life

[arctic bronze]

I said 'ay ya ya" bc of this song

[terse maple]

nope lawl

[arctic bronze]

the fact its 10 years old makes me sad

[terse maple]

how come

[terse maple]

why

[indigo walrus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sxwfnv_M18&t=10

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[indigo walrus]

Et tu remember AMVHell competition videos?

[arctic bronze]

oh my god I forgot about them

[low sorrel]

@civic reef I have acquired Tim Tam's

Your Aussie right?

Apparently I'm supposed to dip these in milk or tea but I'm too lazy to get some

So I'm just gonna eat one dry

This shit is very sweet

And very dry

[pallid marsh]

unlike your sister when i rizz her up

[terse maple]

wildin' out here

[nimble pike]

What's the best type of hard drive to buy for just, desktop file storage? WD Black? WD Blue? Seagate Barracuda?

I'm assuming WD Black?

[pallid marsh]

the cheapest

[nimble pike]

They're all roughly the same price

[pure grail]

windows "security update"
has random shit addons like changing ui

[low sorrel]

That doesn't seem like an human amount of teeth

[pure grail]

it is
its just that it looks weird since its visible when usually in front view the back ones r hidden

[pure grail]

avoid the smr ones then just decide based on who has better warranty, return policy ig

[quick kernel]

I have a computer upstairs that I’d like to use downstairs. I already do this via sunshine & moonlight however I want to start playing esports games and having a downstairs setup whilst keeping my PC at my setup upstairs but keeping it lag free. Any recommendations on what to do?

[brisk jolt]

ethernet for max speed is all u can realistically do unless you want to drill a KVM switch inbetween

[civic reef]

I am not an aussie, mate

[civic reef]

Is that even logically feasible

[quick kernel]

Ah, I was thinking of kvm and just having a long usb so I can put it in the front room since my rooms above it I can put it out the window then inside

[brisk jolt]

best but most complicated is KVM

[fervent chasm]

I literally called it to rauko lol

[quick kernel]

I can get a ugreen one for like £20

[sharp robin]

reviews on hostinger?

[devout ridge]

amazing question to ask google

[sharp robin]

everyone is hating on reddit and everyone is loving it on yt (sponsored)

[brittle trellis]

Ignore anything that's sponsored

[karmic folio]

are u buying a vps or

[topaz veldt]

ist like < $10/mo give a try?

[shell void]

i wonder if we’ll see a larger temperature difference between the G1 and G2 than the typical +-3c with Nova Lake testing because itll be 400-750W

we could also see these large dual 140 towers pull ahead of the likes of the peerless assassin, that is certainly possible

current CPUs are so low wattage that the extra heatsink mass of a dual 140 over a dual 120 is overkill

[brisk jolt]

I just stopped my guy from buying a 5080 laptop holy 4.4k sgd

[frank zealot]

750W CPU?!

[shell void]

yes on the 52 core model in fully loaded renders with power limits purposefully removed

[frank zealot]

jebus

[cosmic gazelle]

should have sent this image and said “you mean a 5070 laptop with a funny name”

[brisk jolt]

nah im gonna bring him into the ITX world, let him get a proper OLED monitor, proper kb, mouse and a portable monitor for when he needs to travel

Including a carry on bag

[cosmic gazelle]

i was just memeing about blackwell laptop gpus being misleading lol

[brisk jolt]

thats brutal

[proven saddle]

3070ti 10 %

[proven saddle]

Still good for mobile

[brisk jolt]

i rather build him a 5L ITX over this stupid shit

[proven saddle]

What is the price difference ?

[brisk jolt]

9800x3d 5070 build in a 5L box? that 5080 laptop is x1.5 the price of me building him that

[proven saddle]

Man they suck your money out witj that laptop

[brisk jolt]

a 9800x3d and 5070 isnt particularly smart, till you realise I’d have to use a 37mm cooler for 5L range

[proven saddle]

Fire

[frank zealot]

considering we've seen people put 5060's on 9800x3d's.... a 5070 is downright reasonable

[brisk jolt]

im disappointed to say that a 5060 is 550 SGD compared to 900 SGD for a 5070

[trim agate]

heh i have a 7800x3d and a 3070ti

[icy mortar]

me with my 9600x on a 5070 ti

[frank zealot]

as long as you do 1440p+ that's pretty hot

[brisk jolt]

i have a 9950x3d with a 5060ti

[icy mortar]

yeah 1440p :v (I cant really complain in any game about CPU performance since im on 144hz, even if I had more at the point of 100 native fps framgen is really viable)

[frank zealot]

the fuck

Why does the Core Ultra 338H not seem to exist anywhere still

It's the only Core Ultra 5 300 series with ARC Graphics, and not the super-nerfed 4C bullshit graphics

[turbid locust]

There’s people here with 9800X3Ds and 3080’s

I will never understand not prioritizing your gpu in a gaming pc

[trim agate]

i wouldve got the 9800x3d as well if it was $200 more

[pure garnet]

7800x3d & 6700 xt 💪

[trim agate]

they probably were on AM4 with a 3080 then upgraded to am5

that's what i did, i was on a 5600 then upgraded to a 7800x3d

[turbid locust]

but there’s people unironically doing 9800X3D + 5070 full builds lmfao

your gpu should not cost the same as your cpu

[trim agate]

now thats nuts

granted my brother has a 9800x3d and a 5070ti in a prebuilt

[icy mortar]

i mean if youre on 1080p or playing lots of esports

[frank zealot]

that GPU is still 50% more expensive than the CPU, so that's still less insane

[turbid locust]

5070Ti is about the gpu limit where I start saying an X3D is ok

[wraith steeple]

9070 XT or 5070 Ti with 9800X3D isn't too bad

[turbid locust]

With that being said I ran a 7700x + 5070Ti no problem

[trim agate]

man i want to upgrade my gpu

[turbid locust]

even then any cpu in the last like 3 generations is getting you hundreds of fps in those titles

[icy mortar]

is a 7700x better than a 9600x? i presume not due to single core right? '-'

[trim agate]

there isnt really a reason to upgrade my gpu at the moment tho

[icy mortar]

fair enough not like id know, i came from a r5 5500 before upgrading

[pure garnet]

except cheater strike 2

[turbid locust]

Games shit

[pure garnet]

but if you don’t have a x3d you get walls because your game lags and stutters when someone is nearby

[turbid locust]

an outlier does not make the rule

[pure garnet]

like my when my game hitched on the 12900k i knew it was lock in time

[turbid locust]

tbf the 5500 was a nerfed 5600 that performed like a 3600

[frank zealot]

I love how the game that was pushing well beyond the limits of panel tech for framerate....

"Updated" and fucking obliterated the FPS people could get in the game

[turbid locust]

I was struggling to get 300fps with a 14900K and FSR performance

[icy mortar]

yeah lmao

[turbid locust]

I still believe 5700X3D and 5800X3D owners are sitting pretty

especially with ram prices rn

[frank zealot]

100%

[frank zealot]

the 5500 and below were basically laptop dies on an AM4 socket

[wraith steeple]

I might give Father Bone my 9800X3D and ram kit and he decides on mobo TBH

[turbid locust]

Anyone on a Zen 3 X3D + like a 9070XT rn are CHILLIN

[wraith steeple]

[icy mortar]

im kinda thinking of getting a new monitor but im unsure

[frank zealot]

the 5000G And 5700/5500+below were Cezanne chips, instead of Vermeer like the 5600/5600X/5700X etc

[brisk jolt]

boutta do a 5700x3d 9060XT build for a friend

in fugging june 🗿

[turbid locust]

hopefully not buying AM4 new

[turbid locust]

It’s the best upgrade you can do

what’s the point of spending $1000 on a pc if you’re looking at it through a $150 POS

respectfully

[brisk jolt]

using used parts for ram and ssd… d5 is simply in another galaxy for him

[icy mortar]

i have a 1440p 144hz one (decent LG - IPS panel) so im kinda thinking of either getting OLED 1440p 244hz or an non-oled 4k (since upscaling has gotten pretty freaky its just free kinda)

[brisk jolt]

on the other hand another guy could be doing a 7500x3d or a 9800x3d 5070 build

[pure garnet]

1440p oled needs to be abolished

[trim agate]

i was heavily thinking about upgrading to a 5800x3d from a 5600, then i saw that a resold 5800x3d was only like $150 cheaper than 7800x3d

[pure garnet]

no half measures get a modern resolution

[turbid locust]

If you can save for a 4K OLED that’s my vote

[trim agate]

what am i missing here why are we hating on 1440p oled

[icy mortar]

im kinda a brokie tho, its basically going from 400€ to like 700€ 😭

[turbid locust]

Kyoko is half memeing

[pure garnet]

nah 1440p is smudge vision deadass

[icy mortar]

WHAT

[turbid locust]

Whatever you go with, OLED. Just get an OLED lol.

[pure garnet]

30s with a 4k panel and you’ll notice

[brisk jolt]

nah 1440p oled is the minimum else you a normie

[pure garnet]

mfs talking about dlss artifacts on the grainy matte 1440p monitors

[frank zealot]

I love delusional sellers

[turbid locust]

I can’t say anything I went from 27” 1440p to 42” 4K with almost identical PPI lmao

[pure garnet]

you ain’t gonna see it bro

[icy mortar]

4HQHQHAH

[icy mortar]

sometimes i just feel the need to write them theyre clinically insane but too much effort

[frank zealot]

it's even LPX DDR4 the worst shit

[brisk jolt]

i believe in DLDSR supremacy

[turbid locust]

I need to try DLDSR

Sike I’ll be on Linux soon

[pure garnet]

tandem oled fixed the triangle pixel problem i think though

[turbid locust]

I love nuking my gpu features WOOOO

[pure garnet]

so 1440p oled is longer worse than lcd in text quality

[hoary hatch]

I don't believe it

[frank zealot]

holy shitballs, this is crazy:

[wraith steeple]

Asking Father Bone if he wants the 9070 XT I have.

[icy mortar]

#peripherals message

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/true-correct-dwight-schrute-rainn-wilson-right-gif-23822659

[pure garnet]

mac has been a d1 linux hater so now he’s installing it himself

[trim agate]

what the frick bro i just read this on my 27" 1440p monitor

[pure garnet]

he’s dragging floppa down too

[turbid locust]

Floppa invited himself

[hoary hatch]

Hey I just met you
And this is crazy
Here's a parts cabinet from Segway research department for home lab diy electronics $2,000
So call me maybe

[frank zealot]

Okay Navy Black

[icy mortar]

yeah i just checked, cheap panels of each is 400€ and 700€, is 4k really a giant difference? ughhh so complicateeeed

[brisk jolt]

im waiting for tandem to upgrade

[turbid locust]

navy being funny for the first time in history

[hoary hatch]

Bro it's cRly ray Pepsi not Rebecca black

Carley Ray jepson*

[turbid locust]

It’s quite the difference. Even with OLED I think you’d not be as impressed going from 1440p to 1440p, even with the refresh rate bump.

[frank zealot]

Honestly the typo was better

[hoary hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/rebecca-black-friday-tgif-gif-4051598

That's Rebecca black

Aka the inaugural YouTube rewind host iirc

[icy mortar]

700€ is RIP mmmhh so hard man, id need to see like a 4k vs 1440p video comparing them with upscaling from same internal res

[trim agate]

you'd need to go to a store to see it

[pure garnet]

how do you expect to see a pixel density improvement from a video

[trim agate]

😭

[turbid locust]

but yeah @hoary hatch I’m putting my money where my mouth is. So many people glazing Linux and I think it’s just an objectively worse desktop experience so I’m going to daily Linux for the first time in over 3 years.

[trim agate]

yeah i'm gonna watch a video on 60hz vs 240hz

[icy mortar]

idk i saw a daniel owens video of something similar, ill try to find it and come back to you

[hoary hatch]

I like Linux
But oh my god, windows HID drivers just feel so much better

[turbid locust]

I’m going to loosely document my experience as well.

[random flame]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-up-hold-up-meme-fallout-meme-gif-3737350009659669155

He's doing it too?

[frank zealot]

yooooo

[turbid locust]

He said he’s down

[hoary hatch]

When I tried using Linux again like a year ago after being on high refresh monitors and ultralight mice for a few years I fucking lost it

[turbid locust]

Yeah, my little stint over 3 years ago I was already snobby. That was back when I was on a 5600x + 6700XT system, best monitor I knew was a 1440p IPS, and my mouse was a Superlight.

I’m even MORE of a snob now so we’ll see.

[icy mortar]

idk exactly what he said I think the base premise was on higher resolutions even with the same internal res, it can look more detailed on higher res or something along those lines (but maybe im remembering wrong and schizo)

[turbid locust]

The reality is; my main game is gone day 1. And my supplementary game to replace it is limited in Linux.

So it’s going to be an experience.

[hoary hatch]

Valoro? Tarkov?

[turbid locust]

Val

[hoary hatch]

Time to get super into American Truck Sim

[shell void]

ooh the product page is up https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z890-AORUS-ELITE-DUO-X

@merry stirrup this looks like a fantastic board

[turbid locust]

Which I’m like “it’s ok, I can still get my tac shooter fix with CS2”

But I’ll be limited to Valve matchmaking because FaceIt doesn’t support Linux.

[shell void]

it even has the old school lower latency ALC1220 audio for the group of people who care about that

[hoary hatch]

Does duo just mean 2 dimm slots

[shell void]

i would assume so

[icy mortar]

sup MICHAEL

[hoary hatch]

Who is micheal

[brisk jolt]

michael afton?

[icy mortar]

son

[turbid locust]

@hoary hatch I’ve spent the last like 3 days scrolling ProtonDB seeing what works on Linux and what doesn’t lmfao

I will be experiencing my Steam backlog.

[pure garnet]

this board is cool but gigabyte auto voltages are super conservative so i can’t wait for people to think their cpu can’t do 8600

[shell void]

surely my prestiged patriot vipers would EASILY operate at 9200MT/s in the Gigabyte Z890 Aorus Elite Duo X

[pure garnet]

my master wouldn’t boot 8400 on auto

8200 was most i got

[turbid locust]

I think people just don’t realize how high ram VDDQ you need for anything above 8000

Like my H16A wants like 1.55v VDDQ for 8800

[brisk jolt]

im out here struggling to even find CPU VDDQ or TX on this fuckass asus board btw

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193840159358976/1481915275858415739/0AFC5196-3FC4-4100-B996-41EAF73ECCFD.gif

[turbid locust]

I told you where it is

[pure garnet]

setsuna bin

[brisk jolt]

i searched every goddamn setting and in the search menu

[turbid locust]

send pics

It’s not called TX on z890

[pure garnet]

watch it be hidden on the b860

[turbid locust]

oh b860 good luck

if it ain’t red Asus bios idfk

[pure garnet]

blue asus bios users may discover fire soon

[brisk jolt]

its indeed red

[civic reef]

@merry stirrup I think I should keep the AM5 & Aurora projects separate

[brisk jolt]

only vddq i could find on here is only DRAM

[civic reef]

Because combining them would bring constraints which will ultimately impact performance

[pure garnet]

would it not be meta to build the am5 system first

[civic reef]

i.e: 120mm AIO for cooling, and a maximum of 270mm for the GPU

[brisk jolt]

are we deadass with this level of priority

[civic reef]

They were supposed to be the same system

But too many constraints

[turbid locust]

Find ram voltages, go all the way to the bottom where it says advanced, should be like second from the top in advanced

[civic reef]

What I mean is
The previous plan was AM5 upgrade first, then moving it into the Aurora

Okay I worded the first message a bit wrong

I AM upgrading to AM5 first

But the upgrade was planned with an eventual recasing in mind into the Aurora R7

I believe it'd be best if I don't go forth with the second step, and keep the two systems separate

It'd be more expensive yes, but it's no issue

[turbid locust]

I need to gangstalk my old colleges ebay account again

[civic reef]

@brisk jolt
I AM stupid yes, but I do have a few braincells up there

[turbid locust]

if they drop those 11900K + 2080Ti systems they had in the esports lounge I wanna know about it

[icy mortar]

what do you think of this one? -> "Alienware AW2725Q"

[civic reef]

$500 11900K / 2080 Ti ftw

[turbid locust]

I would just look it up on Rtings

[icy mortar]

the ratings for some reason are like, half locked (gray and blurred out)

[brisk jolt]

is default vddq 1.1

[turbid locust]

yes

and it will not change unless you change it

[brisk jolt]

alr found it

tq mac

[arctic bronze]

🧂

[turbid locust]

bookshelf

[arctic bronze]

This guy gets it

🫆

[wraith steeple]

My street is being torn into

[turbid locust]

Into what

[turbid locust]

in two or into

[arctic bronze]

In too

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/steal-kazuma-konosuba-gif-18846520

[wraith steeple]

The waterline broke so that's nice

[turbid locust]

Fire

[arctic bronze]

Its pregnant

[dark pine]

i need help i wanna enable xmp but there is nothing under the advanced tab in my bios/omen setup utility

[wraith steeple]

Right in front of my house too of all places

[arctic bronze]

What motherboard

[pure garnet]

my epoch has arrived

[dark pine]

hp 8D7F

[arctic bronze]

Oh ur prob locked down

Need a new motherboard to enable it

Yeah those pcs dont allow for xmp

[dark pine]

🙁 sad sad days i js put in a new stick of ram so im a lil poor💔

[arctic bronze]

There is specific types of ram that changes the speed of those kinds of pc but i forgot what its called

[dark pine]

i got 2 sticks of ddr5 xpg 6000 mts

[arctic bronze]

Yeah ur stuck at what ever speeds it chooses

[dark pine]

and its stuck at 4800 mts💔

is there a way to by pass this without changing motherboards

[devout ridge]

nope

[arctic bronze]

Nope

Ur locked down

[dark pine]

yayyyy 🥲

[dark pine]

1.2k pc js to get locked my manufacturing 💔

[devout ridge]

the real crime is spending 1.2k on that

[arctic bronze]

Dont buy prebuilts lol

[dark pine]

it was my only option at the time

[devout ridge]

Why

[leaden dawn]

Surprised there wouldn't be a bios hack or smth. But also not because yknow

[devout ridge]

niche board, highly doubt there is

[devout ridge]

also even if there is, i doubt they included the added power supply components for more power hungry dimms

[leaden dawn]

True

[turbid locust]

In my experience HP OEM boards usually pick up the XMP right away

but in all honesty you aren’t losing performance by being at 4800 over 6000 XMP lol

[devout ridge]

what chip

and what application at what resolution

[turbid locust]

Pentium III, cyberpunk, 4K pathtracing

[arctic bronze]

A true gamer

[turbid locust]

Just saw a New Edge mustang with a “Historic motor vehicle” plate. wtf. Am I unc?

@topaz veldt @edgy laurel ??

[steel stream]

is this a rhetorical question?

[brisk jolt]

Not 8k?

[civic reef]

Did you gaslight the Pentium into taking DDR5 instead of SDRAM

[turbid locust]

no

[arctic bronze]

Its a torical question

[turbid locust]

new edge mustangs are like fuckin early to late 2000s

“Historical”

[arctic bronze]

We are old

🥲

[turbid locust]

Bitch you’re old I’m 22

[arctic bronze]

Same

We are old

[frank zealot]

get off my lawn

[turbid locust]

your lawn that you bought for 8 grapes and a string now worth 8.2 million thanks gramps

[arctic bronze]

We are 2003 babys

[wraith steeple]

[arctic bronze]

I have bad news for you @topaz veldt

[turbid locust]

Alexa, play Entombed Monarch by Carnifex

[arctic bronze]

This is so sad, alexa, play despacito

[turbid locust]

Alexa play F.C.P.R.E.M.I.X by The Fall of Troy

[shell void]

it's joever bro the first couple years of that generation are 25+ years old and now eligible for vintage plates

the unc'ening

[turbid locust]

New Edges??????

[shell void]

yeah that started in 99

[turbid locust]

fuck I googled it

[wraith steeple]

That song, fucks

[arctic bronze]

STOP

[arctic bronze]

Italian

[turbid locust]

A non-insignificant part of my music taste was shaped by Guitar Hero

[wraith steeple]

I also first heard it from GH III

[shell void]

my car is older than floppa

incredible

[turbid locust]

I’ve never owned a car older than 2012

Unfortunately still older than some users here

[wraith steeple]

The hardest GH game for me playing is II not so much the charts but the engine being so damn jank

[turbid locust]

Less jank and more just strict

only thing jank about it is strum limit

I need to install CH again

[wraith steeple]

Yep multi strumming is my biggest weakness TBF

[turbid locust]

I can strum like a mf I just can’t tap for shit

If it isn’t one hand-able I’m fucked

[wraith steeple]

It took me a while to get used to the open notes on expert. I've seen them on bass but the guitar parts was a huge culture shock

[turbid locust]

I want to get better but I get bored after awhile lol

I have a huge song library on my NAS for CH

I also suck at chords lol

[frank zealot]

I fucking hate users sometimes....

I get told "X Acct Rep mentioned that their PC was being slow and having Y issue. Can you help them out?"
Sure, of course.

I message the user in question and start talking about the issues.
From the boss: "BTW: She's on a cruise currently, so, yeah."

Find out, someone else is on her computer and working.

Me: Y'all suck at security, you know that?

[topaz veldt]

whats that

[brisk jolt]

too big time to downsize

[arctic bronze]

If mac and I are old (we are 22) im afraid that you are beyond ancient

[topaz veldt]

That's ok - just like wine, I age well

[brisk jolt]

Lets go- I just scratched my ITX case

Time to start considering cerakoting it

[topaz veldt]

Which?

[steel stream]

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-finally-releases-bios-fix-for-rare-am5-pcie-gpu-throttling-issue

[edgy laurel]

in most states its 25 years or older to qualify for historic or vintage plates

[icy mortar]

i was wondering if someone were to know/find a comparison between 4K ultra performance and 1440p performance? since apparently im too stupid to find any and I was wondering about if it looks any different and performance differences

[brisk jolt]

The Formd T1, the powder coating is kinda weak against scratches, hit a mouse at the bottom and I suddenly got 3 new scratches

im now very highly considering cerakoting it into red

[topaz veldt]

Ah that stinks

[shell void]

4K Ultra Performance will be very slightly slower, but will look better

i don’t have a chart with exact numbers to show you

that’s just my experience with testing DLSS

[pure garnet]

@shell void no 6090 in here lmfao

[shell void]

LIKE A GLOVE

[icy mortar]

okay ty :o
with 1440p i prefer not to go under quality most of the time so i was hoping performance will look fine on 4k (since fps yknow)
in the first place i wonder if 4k makes sense with a 5070ti

[shell void]

yes 5070Ti is good for 4K240

[steel stream]

it's good 👍

[shell void]

if you manual override 45% DLSS in the Nvidia App on a 4K monitor then it’ll be like using Quality on a 1440p monitor

or you could just use Performance because it’s close enough and less hassle

[shell void]

your 5070Ti is working hard

[steel stream]

apple music stressing it hard

[icy mortar]

Oo thats good to know and kinda surprising honestly, btw you play alot of cyberpunk right?

[steel stream]

are you asking for 5070 ti benchmarks in cyberpunkj?

[icy mortar]

nope i wont, theres enough videos out there

and i already talked about that with him before I bought my GPU actually

[steel stream]

oh i was about to say I could run benchmark rq lol

[icy mortar]

he has a 5070 ti and ran the settings i asked for before i bought, saint 🙏

or had, he upgraded something

[steel stream]

yeah he's on a 5090 now

[dusk agate]

My Mac mini ports are all used up. I’m using one of my two 4K webcams, audio recording interface, stream deck xl and elgato teleprompter. Anyone have suggestions for a usb hub at these speeds? I’m using the Mac mini m1 with 8gb ram and a 512gb internal memory. I’ve already maxed it out once and it started crashing the teleprompter. I would like to be able to connect a hard drive somehow soo this doesn’t happen again. Not sure if this is a tech 1 or 2 chat message soo I posted it in both.

[icy mortar]

idk if its a 5080 or 5090 now

[icy mortar]

i js wanted to talk abt that I just recently found out that RR replaces SR, so having DLSS 4.5 in cyberpunk seems useless if you use RT/PT+RR and it replaces the SR with its own, sooo annoying

or am i wrong

[pure garnet]

i should've got the xl fr

[steel stream]

wait did you case swap already?

[pure garnet]

yeah it arrived at 11:20 am and i finished about 1:20pm

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/disney-cars-pixar-guido-lightning-mcqueen-gif-17975943

[pure garnet]

temps are better unsprisingly

[steel stream]

mint

[pure garnet]

well i didnt get a dump on shutdown

so that's a sign hopefully

[vestal granite]

fellas dont forget 7/11 has $3.14 whole pizzas (frozen or cooked) for Pi day today and tomorrow

i have stocked my freezer with 4 pepperoni pizzas for future consumption

its limit 2 per order so u gotta make 2 orders

my local 7/11 i walked over to pick up my pizzas and they had like 40 pizzas stacked up on the countertop its chaos there

[steel stream]

damn maybe i gotta go to 7/11

[low sorrel]

What caee

[pure garnet]

fractal epoch

[frank zealot]

remember the Fractal "I wish I was a speaker" Mood?
https://www.newegg.com/fractal-design-small-form-factor-mood-steel-plastic-cloth-computer-case-black-fd-c-mod1n-02/p/N82E16811352220?item=N82E16811352220

[wraith steeple]

[cosmic gazelle]

the “zbox series y”

[brisk jolt]

https://velkase.com/cdn/shop/files/vk3_2_1296x.jpg?v=1697433150 this is the case to pair if i can get the 5060ti cyclone

[cosmic gazelle]

didn’t you say you were using an o11 lol

[brisk jolt]

what?

[shell void]

brother setsu has several pcs

[wraith steeple]

I have

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[brisk jolt]

a humble 2

[icy mortar]

@shell void
I ordered da monitor now🙏 "ASUS ROG Swift PG27UCDM" seemed to have great ratings. (like 760€ was at an all time low price rn)

[brisk jolt]

the 7600x and b580 is not a pc, its the excel and word machine

the fomd T1 is gonna be disassembled with its components sold off entirely for novalake and cerakoted

[pure garnet]

i read that a broken dp cable could also cause the issues i've been experiencing so i ordered one of those to be safe

[brisk jolt]

maybe I should cerakote it blue

[pure garnet]

ship of thesusesing the pc again 🔥

[steel stream]

why would you order a broken DP cable smh

[pure garnet]

my amazon basics is not locked in

when i get up my monitor shuts off half the time

[shell void]

you need a third

[shell void]

[brisk jolt]

Im gonna sell my arrow lake in august same with the 5070ti (what i paid for) to a friend since thats what I promised him to help a brother out

arrowlake will be going to a guy who doesnt have a PC yet and will be completing his intern in august

[icy mortar]

btw i was hoping you could help me figure something out since AI said the opposite and now im really unsure, since i saw a reddit post complaining about the issue i stated and the much worse image quality with RR and the same upscaling mode.
and youre kinda more well versed than me or AI in this stuff
#tech-chat-2 message

[brisk jolt]

so the T1 will basically go for an entire rehaul with a cerakote and with novalake

dis the perfect plan

[pure garnet]

https://x.com/Noctua_at/status/2032464924052500973

Noctua (@Noctua_at)

The picture is almost complete. You’ve perfected your cooling and optimised your hardware – now get ready for the final element that brings your quiet build together!

X · Mar 13, 2026, 2:32 PM

bro if my pc waited like a bit longer to act up i could've had the noctua case

[hoary hatch]

An actual noctua case

Or like is this a noctua edition Proart case

[pure garnet]

comments say it's an antec flux pro collab model

[hoary hatch]

Ah

[brisk jolt]

watch them release it only in a dark feces color

[pure garnet]

mogged

[shell void]

i don’t fully understand your question, but enabling ray reconstruction forces you to use an older CNN antialiasing model that looks a lot worse than DLSS 4.5 when upscaling

you get smearing, boiling, and general blurriness

[brisk jolt]

do i go for a red blue or white cerakote (this is fr multiple months ahead planning)

[icy mortar]

you did understand my question then, ty.
to reiterate, the question was "will enabling RR replace the currently used SR (like 4.5) with its own SR" basically, AI said "with RT/PT + DLSS Ray Reconstruction does replace the DLSS Super Resolution denoiser stage, but it doesn’t replace the upscaler itself. RR swaps the ray-tracing denoisers, then SR (or DLAA) still handles the final upscale/AA. So DLSS 4.5 improvements still matter for the final image and stability."

[steel stream]

not PA602, doesn't match

[shell void]

iirc it uses Preset D which is a CNN model from early 2023

it looks terrible if you’re not rendering at- at least 1440p

[brisk jolt]

is it getting an update? they had a flood of videos and one was about path tracing improvements

[low sorrel]

Man fractal makes too many cases

[steel stream]

would

[pure garnet]

it's a north with a normal front

[brisk jolt]

Nice team! Lets see what its made of!
Spiderman! Spiderman! Spiderman!

[shell void]

i don’t fully understand how it works in regards to whether it’s on nvidia to update it, or on game devs to implement a newer version

[wraith steeple]

I would unironically buy this

[shell void]

i would think that they’d let us override it in nvapp like everything else, but they seemingly havent released a newer version

[pure garnet]

i don't think nvidia has made a transformer model ray reconstruction yet

[steel stream]

we need Mark on this asap

[pure garnet]

look what has returned michael

[shell void]

[brisk jolt]

gosh I have so many things to settle in april

[shell void]

the dinosaur has been revived

ooh im getting an icepick pain behind my left eye and a sense of impending doom

surely it’s nothing

[icy mortar]

its so irritating, like, i love RT/PT but with a 5070ti i wont run it natively on 1440p obviously, and even quality it gets like, what, 60fps? (Im using some mods but still)

just ruins RT/PT for me that i cant use actual upscaling

[topaz veldt]

🤢

[steel stream]

the lion does not concern himself with the random physical pain

the lion only concerns himself with chest pain

[hoary hatch]

CL38 cringe

Shit I have CL38

[low sorrel]

lollllll

[brisk jolt]

sharp physical pain versus one annoying sorethroat for men

[low sorrel]

akn you gonna watch the sprint and quali

[pure garnet]

you have 6000cl38?

[hoary hatch]

Well, no

8200 CL38

[brisk jolt]

brother that's fine

[low sorrel]

[brisk jolt]

why is there an app called mora on the redmagic

mora deez nuts

[steel stream]

whens it at

[low sorrel]

idk

for you

[steel stream]

what time is it for you

[pure garnet]

genshin reference

[low sorrel]

wait i can just do <t:1773457200:t> and <t:1773385200:t>

[wraith steeple]

Oh wrong Mora

[brisk jolt]

I don't get it

[steel stream]

maybe I watch the sprint, but i need to wake up early tomorrow and get work done

[pure garnet]

it does appear that swapping to the epoch dropped my temps like 5-10c depending on what im going

[steel stream]

But i've got college basketball 9:00 pm my time

[steel stream]

it's never the wrong mora

[merry stirrup]

38/4.1

38/3

nano second differences

[brisk jolt]

same when I swapped from h6 flow to hs420

the diff fans and better layout is so nice

[pure garnet]

i also swapped to my duronaut

so that might be helping temps too

[brisk jolt]

I think I'll be getting a wlmouse Huan in apr

[devout ridge]

What would be a good soldering iron under 100usd or so

[merry stirrup]

my 862 SE thing is fine

[pure garnet]

floppa come pick up my y40

[merry stirrup]

https://a.co/d/0g7Bu4l6

[merry stirrup]

remember yesterday when you used precisely the same joke

[pure garnet]

no i got finding nemo memory

[merry stirrup]

ohhhhh

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flightreacts-heat-cheque-jordan-shoe-car-gif-3347974957334073454

[steel stream]

tough

[pure garnet]

all i know is broken computer fr

[icy mortar]

just checked, RR forces you to use D yup, looks incredibly shit in comparison to preset M, im on 1440p what DLSS mode do you think this is?

how do people even play with PT on man, its so demanding and you cant properly upscale since RR forces awful DLSS versions

[fringe vigil]

Good pcs

[edgy laurel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ohhh-whoah

i jumped in last night to play with Display Commander. looked and felt great cranked up with PT

[merry stirrup]

broken computer, eat hot chip, and lie

[steel stream]

it looks good

[icy mortar]

i knowww but man, i can barely get 60 fps with dlss qual/balanced in 1440p which is agitating, welp

[icy mortar]

this is 480p internal by the way (ultra performance 1440p)

[steel stream]

I run PT with performance and 2x FG, but this is 4k

[cosmic gazelle]

path tracing is super intensive that's kinda how things roll

using FG to compensate is kinda crazy tho ngl

[icy mortar]

thats actually interesting to me, in 1440p quality is already "bearable" but below that REALLY sucks, what do you get with performance without FG?

[steel stream]

it's a single player game and it feels fine 😛

[steel stream]

lemme check

[cosmic gazelle]

i haven't played a game that i could tolerate FG in but apparently i've just been using AMD's open source version because 30 series doesn't support nvidia's version

i don't know

[icy mortar]

ngl framegen I was initially against but if its well implemented its a saint, if you have like...lets say 60-70 base fps id take FG on any day against off

[cosmic gazelle]

FSR frame gen in a game like borderlands 4 with 60 original fps and reflex on on+boost creates intolerable input lag

i would assume nvidia's implementation is better

[icy mortar]

it gets slightly noticeable on 60 fps or lower to me (the latency) but not unbearable to me, on 70fps i dont mind it at all (i tried in BL4 really recently)

[steel stream]

currently in the area I am in about 40

[cosmic gazelle]

additionally on some games it's just busted completely, like stalker 2, it makes red dots unusable because the frame gen messes up the reticle

[icy mortar]

WHAT 😭 FAHHHHH, so framegen gets you to what, 60?

[icy mortar]

dayum

[steel stream]

yeah lol you've been using a way worse version

[cosmic gazelle]

blame nvidia

[steel stream]

nah

[icy mortar]

i mean alot of stuff is FP8 accelerated so idk if its their fault or not

[steel stream]

ok im sitting at about 80 FPS now with 2x FG

[icy mortar]

thats...horrendous in terms of input lag, no?

[shell void]

99.9% of people don’t

[icy mortar]

yeah but didnt you on 5070 ti?

[steel stream]

nah it feels alright tbh

[shell void]

people that have 4090s or 5090s that don’t mind the blurriness of ray reconstruction do

[steel stream]

once again, it's a singleplayer game

[icy mortar]

wait at what settings do you play? (wth i just heard someone scream the N-word so loud somewhere)

[shell void]

i did for a few hours of my play through yes

i was using dlss performance and framegen

the input latency and artifacting was noticeable but i wanted to try playing with PT

[icy mortar]

you showed me the difference i remember the detail was really really visible, i think you were showing me a golden engraved gun

[steel stream]

it's def noticeable, but if i get into the game it won't really affect me much

[icy mortar]

for me personally 50fps is already close to unbearable for framegen in cyberpunk

[icy mortar]

sooo do you now play raster?

or RT

[shell void]

raster with dlss preset L usually

[steel stream]

protip just use a controller and it'll feel great lol

[icy mortar]

probably on balanced or something

[cosmic gazelle]

if i'm gonna get 140 fps on raster ultra dlss q, or 80 fps on ray tracing high with dlss b, like in cyberpunk, i still struggle to feel like the framerate is worth the visuals personally

[brisk jolt]

Path traced 1440p on the 5090 barely hits 60

[gentle urchin]

PS4 version

[steel stream]

whenever I pick cyberpunk back up i run PT, performance, 2X fps and I have a good time 🤷

[icy mortar]

some of us are blessed with worse eyes 💔

[shell void]

sometimes i’ll even go down to performance but it looks pretty similar when im just playing the game instead of peeping

[icy mortar]

as long as you enjoy it thats what matters

[shell void]

preset L is great

[gentle urchin]

Just play the ps4/xbox console
Imagine having to pick settings

[steel stream]

don't get me wrong, I can still see the artifacts and issues, but if I just play the game instead of nitpick, it's fine

[icy mortar]

ehh? i get preset L is really really nice, i tried it out on 1440p already and dayum, but dont you already get copious amounts of FPS with your 5090 on raster anyways even on less agressive upscale?

[shell void]

check this out xd #tech-chat-2 message

[icy mortar]

how close are you to your monitor?

[steel stream]

i sit maybe 2-2.5 ft away? but i use a 42" screen

[brisk jolt]

i should probably go back to my 5090

[gentle urchin]

if you select 1080p as resolution in Windows for your 1440p monitor
You get more fps.

[brisk jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193840159358976/1481915275858415739/0AFC5196-3FC4-4100-B996-41EAF73ECCFD.gif

[icy mortar]

jesus its REALLY REALLY bad, i did watch some videos confirming without RR the new SR are way worse with boiling etc.

[icy mortar]

dayum gigantic

[shell void]

yeah, but the difference between 1440p and 1080p with Preset L is so minor at times that i don’t care, and i’d rather cutdown on gpu wattage

[icy mortar]

i forgot that GPU draws more wattage than my house

[brisk jolt]

yeah he has 800w vbios flashed onto it

but he does have and has shared UV profiles here

[loud depot]

is it possible to have fast charging on pc?

[icy mortar]

im so excited for my monitor nooow, appearantly rtings said its one of the best oleds theyve ever tested

im kinda scared of burn in tho

[brisk jolt]

rn Im running mine at 0.95v and he’s at like 0.885v or something

[steel stream]

wdym

[loud depot]

when charging phone

[icy mortar]

dayum

[loud depot]

its slow

[brisk jolt]

i need to get a 4K 32” but without proper tandem options or 5th gen qds im pretty fucked

[steel stream]

just don't leave it on the same image for hours and hours and you'll be fine, burn in really isn't an issue anymore

[shell void]

i’m still debating getting the PG32UCDM3

[gentle urchin]

Since HD 7770 is more or less PS4 graphics
& CyberPunk is available for PS4.
You don't need anything more powerful than HD 7770 to play CyberPunk

[icy mortar]

720p internal? whats the 1440p equivalent

[icy mortar]

huh why are you fucked then?

[steel stream]

nah don't think so

[gentle urchin]

imagine buying a GPU that is 35 times uncessesary too fast for CyberPunk, talk about Preset L

[pure garnet]

where’s the funny

[merry stirrup]

not sure

perhaps behind the monitor of the user that posted it

[gentle urchin]

Copiums in the chat

[pure garnet]

quite a humorous conspiracy

[brisk jolt]

im either getting that or the 322ur x24 from msi

whatever is cheaper

@shell void actually is the gen 3 out for u rn

[pure garnet]

it looks weird not seeing my rad at the top of my case anymore

[steel stream]

you a front mounter now?

[pure garnet]

had to bc i didnt get the xl

the epoch xl didn't fit on the amazon nightsand i bought to leave my pc on

[steel stream]

damn

[icy mortar]

yall making me worry about my purchase now

[steel stream]

stick with the tandem

it's what i would do personally

[icy mortar]

wat, mine wasnt tandem

[steel stream]

which one did you get again

[icy mortar]

ASUS ROG Swift PG27UCDM

[steel stream]

ah

yeah just stick with that anyways

[icy mortar]

4k tandems seem super expensive, too much for me T-T
the ASUS one was 760€ or sum

[pure garnet]

apparently 320w is the max a 9800x3d can draw according to hwinfo

because im running prime 95 small rn and it's sitting at 160w but the ppt limit is only 50%

so now i must find a way to send 320w into the cpu

[brisk jolt]

yk what fuck it Im gonna get the gen 3 in november

thats when I can strike

[shell void]

nah end of march supposedly

[civic reef]

That's odd, thought it'd manage to top out at like 500w

[steel stream]

so what can I see on rtings without paying now

[merry stirrup]

kinda cool ddr3

[pure garnet]

the overview at the top basically

[steel stream]

damn

[civic reef]

Reminds me of Hiksemi's RAM

[merry stirrup]

wtf is htat

[steel stream]

does he know?

[civic reef]

One of many random memory companies

Like HikVision

[merry stirrup]

china express

[pure garnet]

i must go job but these temps please me

[pallid marsh]

What CPU

[steel stream]

9800x3d i think

[pure garnet]

9800x3d yeah

60% duty a12x25s

[steel stream]

chromax or brown

[pure garnet]

chroma

[steel stream]

brown would have been the real move, but fine whatever

[steel stream]

they sure make good looking fans

[pure garnet]

that they do

[haughty monolith]

yes?

[pure garnet]

i followed the noctua patent pending airflow technique or whatever that guy called it

[steel stream]

i used that in my north and it was good

wait but arent you AIO

[pure garnet]

this is north but no wood

front aio is my intake

[steel stream]

tbh i don't think the noctua technique really makes a difference for you

[pure garnet]

so cpu gets the fresh air and gpu lives with the difference

i don’t have enough wattage components for it to really matter anyhow

in most games i’m roughly 300w system power

[topaz veldt]

but only 120s still!?!?!/

[pure garnet]

420 doesn’t fit up front

[topaz veldt]

they don't make the chromax 140s yet

[steel stream]

like i dont think it matters for an aio, to make the first up top fan blow air in tbh

[topaz veldt]

is what i meant

[pure garnet]

i don’t think the xl fits a 420 either officially at least

[topaz veldt]

it does

[pure garnet]

i have a 140 on intake up top and a 120 above the cpu in exhaust

dual 140 up top was hitting the eps cables

[steel stream]

i feel like having both be exhaust up top would be better for aio setup

[topaz veldt]

oh wait are you on North non-XL?

[pure garnet]

i’m on the epoch which is a north non xl without the wood

[steel stream]

the one intake is really meant to get an air cooler more fresh air

[topaz veldt]

word - I have 140s in the XL

[pure garnet]

i would’ve got the xl if it fit on my table

[topaz veldt]

The XL is not that much larger than non-XL

[pure garnet]

because now i have no room for adult gpu

[topaz veldt]

Gotta ditch front AIO

[steel stream]

i sense an NH-D15 G2 in your future

[topaz veldt]

I totally don't have 2 unused ones

[steel stream]

I totally don't have one sitting in my closet at home

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-look-the-other-way-look-away-awkward-weird-gif-17246188

still want a chromax though tbh

[pure garnet]

if i went back to air id probably reuse my d15s first

[steel stream]

you need the marginal uplift from the $180 cooler

[shell void]

it’s okay 6090FE to the rescue

[pallid marsh]

Starting at $3.5k

[steel stream]

that low?

[pallid marsh]

That's for the impossible to get MSRP fe

[shell void]

i’m ready for $5000 6090 (no way in hell am i going to pay that much)

[steel stream]

it's fine you'll be able to sell your 5090 for $4000 at the same time

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/well-oh-gif-19009954

[pallid marsh]

Nah

[merry stirrup]

job application had me doing geniune cyphers

[steel stream]

had to make sure you weren't ai

[merry stirrup]

yeah bro make me do 30 different cyphers

[frank zealot]

I keep trying to figure out how the heat pipes would get into the center stack

[merry stirrup]

then a long answer question of "what tasks do you not like doing relating to work"

"i dont like answering seemingly useless questions in relations to my job application"

then i answered it in the next sentence

fuck you.

[steel stream]

oh this is one of these places were it's your work family

[merry stirrup]

basically

[steel stream]

yeah fuck that

[topaz veldt]

I once had an interview with a large company and they asked me "so... you have 512 Ceph storage nodes each with 1 PiB.... how much usable capa-" I cut him off "Nah - that's for the vendor to answer, the usable capacity would be what we specified on the order. Next question."

lolol - I was made an offer at the job but I didn't take it

[steel stream]

my most recent interview they just asked about my resume, asked who my hero was, and that was it

[topaz veldt]

I would pick someone super wtf obscure

"My hero is Bob Dole."

on one hand its political... on another... like wtf? what did Bob Dole do?

[steel stream]

if I had more final round interviews maybe i would have done a little bit of trolling, but I wanted this position lol

but that is a really funny bit I will keep that in mind if i ever get asked that question during an interview

[topaz veldt]

just go like vaguely controversial

[steel stream]

I'd probably say general custard, or jake sully from avatar but not say its the dude from avatar

[pallid marsh]

Should have said Ted Kaczynski

[steel stream]

hated that guy, typical University of Michigan prick

[frank zealot]

I just messaged my boss with a link to the Framework Desktop.

"We should get a 128GB Version of this."

[icy mortar]

@shell void Do you think (with the CNN model since, RR and all) that 1440p balanced or 4k ultra performance looks better? :o

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/stallipiano-gif-8633409668543310298

[icy mortar]

wat

[steel stream]

did he ask if you'd be giving up your salary to afford it?

[icy mortar]

do you know or what 😭

[pallid marsh]

How much is 128gb alone $1k?

[frank zealot]

She
And we spend enough money in IT that it'd barely register

[icy mortar]

whats that GIF for 😭

[frank zealot]

at this point? moar

[pallid marsh]

96 is 1.5 basically wtf

[steel stream]

you hurt his feelings man

[icy mortar]

I just pinged michael bc i talked with him about the RR and SR insanity 😭

[steel stream]

5nail is also a DLSS connoisseur, I think you should apologize to him for not including him

[icy mortar]

so basically enabling RR forces preset D (dlss 3.5 CNN) to be enabled instead of whatever SR it shows in the settings (4.5 for example)
if you tried DLSS with 1440p and 4K in cyberpunk with RR enabled, which of what i asked did you prefer :o? (ultra performance 4k - 1440p balanced)

im very sorry DLSS sire

[frank zealot]

Elijah Elijah Elijah

"Where do these cables go? Shit, I don't remember where everything was. Oh fuck me in the ass!"

[steel stream]

damn I think that one really stung

[icy mortar]

😭 i apologized, now hes exiled himself

[steel stream]

yeah might be a while

you might have to write out a longer apology tbh

[merry stirrup]

hes sensitive, ok?

[icy mortar]

dear 5mall5nail5,
i deliver my sincerest apologies for my foolish wrongdoings and i deeply hope for your emotional recovery, please forgive my temporary lack of judgement, i would appreciate any attempt of assistance with my inquiry.
sincerely saiko

[frank zealot]

about 2/3 of the framework desktop's pricetag is literally just the RAM on it lol.

What the fuck is wrong with the universe

[merry stirrup]

oof he really doesnt like improperly formatted emails bro you didnt put a regards or sincerely or anything

[icy mortar]

😭

[merry stirrup]

youre gonna make him cry

[steel stream]

it ain't got no gas in it

[merry stirrup]

smh smh

[icy mortar]

there you go

[topaz veldt]

I am leaving this server

[pallid marsh]

Rtx 5070 module is hella cheap vs ram its only $650 😆

[icy mortar]

😭 please attempt to assist in my inquiry sire, its of utmost importance (#tech-chat-2 message)

[frank zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[frank zealot]

but 12gb vs 128

[steel stream]

idk I think Saiko really got to him

[pure garnet]

intel core ultra 270k+ will pair beautifully with a 5090

[turbid locust]

slow

[pure garnet]

still faster than your setup on linux

[merry stirrup]

my day one is comin down today

bros bringing his 9060xt for me to judge harshly

[pallid marsh]

16gb model?

[merry stirrup]

yah