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hmm ok, i think asus has smth called Multi-Core Enhancement
when it detected the new cpu it might have chjanged that
mce ignores design limits, i wouldn't advise turning that on
what are the other options in that drop down
ai tweaker tab
shoot i didnt click delete in time
just mash it
yeah my setup is kinda cooked rn, currently have my pc running on a vertoical monitor and my laptop running on my main
i went into ai tweaker and internal cpu power management, it says the long tertm power limit is 65 watts but its grayed out
wait i dont have that, lemme see, mine is a tuf motherboard
just take a picture tbh
alr
routing, denver is a low priority city, chicago is very established as a datacenter location
dm me them i guess
gonna delid the 4790k tomorrow and finish the system oc
i could only get another 30mhz on gpu core with a slight undervolt
just memory and very slight gpu tweaking
I highly recommend using Intel Default Settings
If you don't want your CPU to die
remind me to not go in tech chat 1
💀
If it isn't on the verge of exploding you're doing smth wrong
Normally I would agree, but with Intel Default Settings your 13th-14th gen CPU, especially 13900K-14900K might literally die
Motherboard manufacturers and Intel dropped the ball
i thought 14th gen was safe
just set a voltage limit and you're fine
like if i get floppas 13900ks i'll just run it with a 1.4 vid limit and be fine
my friend’s 13900K has killed itself for the 4th time
Make sure he's updates his BIOS to the absolute latest (Microcode changes are a massive deal). Somehow mine was built in 2022 (when the oxidation issues MIGHT have been happening, Intel are dicks and won't tell exactly which ones are affected) and I've had it since it released and it's still alive.
I do use Intel Default Settings and have all the Microcode updates, though.
I still have two years of warranty, so. That's good at least.
Maybe the CPUs that aren't the 14900K, but the 14900K is definitely effected.
the panic around raptor is kinda funny
oh nah he explodes it on purpose at this point
he’s now aiming for an upgrade or refund so he can get a 14900K or KS
CPU go brrrrr
is it ideal to change the fluid in AIO 🤔
If you are sure liquid won't be contaminated by your actions
Most AIO liquid coolers are sealed. If yours is sealed, the liquid is not meant to be changed during the life of the cooler.
BeQuiet Silent Loop supremacy
i see some weird screws on the copper plate
nvm i dont think part shops here sell WC stuff so i cant get any fluid 
Hey just wanted to ask if anyone has some experience with the deepcool AK620. I installed one on my pc after upgrading to a 5700X but I find that it seems to allow the cpu to heat up quickly but then catches it and goes hard for a second then is fine again for an amount of time......
(is this just the characteristic of having a cpu thats' able to pull larger watts?)
I thought I didnt tighten it down enough or something so I gave it a bit of an extra nip up but hasn't changed anything.
Also yes the plastic is definitely off of the cpu cooler I triple checked lel.
And if anything I probably added a bit too much thermal paste (noctua NT-H1)
Also it seems to be fine while playing games and keeps the cpu cool at around the usual 65 degree c ish levels.
sounds like you just need to tune the fan curve to your liking
so heat spiking is normal for the 5700x? even when just opening an application like firefox and or discord?
yeah some motherboards have like super over sensitive curves
Any cpu will have those spikes for the most part
@turbid locust lol this game im playing asked me if i wanted to upgrade to the professonial tier
I don't think i am
Sounds like your friend needs to stop using a 14900k 
Yes. If your CPU goes straight to max boost clock, temperature will follow
You got a loicense for that software, kid?
nahhh
cheap
im callin this user error even though i know its not
user error because they didnt stop the cpu from requesting 1.55v on idle
i wanna treesh
To be fair the fact that is even possible is still on Intel/Motherboard manufacturers. Doing that because you're an overclocker? Fine. But having that set as default? You're literally asking for the thousands and thousands of CPUs owned by regular people to die.
(Which is exactly what happened)
Vast majority of people have no fucking idea what voltage or wattage their CPU is running at, nor do they care.
its just intel
PL1 PL2 PL3 might as well be a foreign language 
their new cpus are better about it so its fixed already, but its annoying they left z790 in that state
my 13900KS on the new bios would still request over 1.5 volts lol
you have to know what youre doing to get the cpus to request a reasonable amount of volts for the freq theyre at
my personal 13900KS did 5.9GHz at a pretty low 1.36v compared to the stock settings requesting like 1.574v or something
Real. I still have two years of warranty left on my CPU, so we'll see what happens. Definitely keeping an eye on it. Still pissed off about all of this and for very good reason despite the fact that I haven't ever sent my CPU in or had it completely die. I'm doubly mad since my CPU was produced in 2022 and Intel will give absolutely no indication whether it was affected by the oxidation issue. All we know that it started sometime in 2022 (probably) and was fixed sometime in "early" 2023. Other than that, they won't give any information. So for all I know my CPU got degraded in some way by either oxidation or their stupid MOBO settings (or lack thereof).
iirc there was only a handful of batches with oxisdation and they got most of the cpus quickly returned
intel has made the default mobo settings worse, its not that they dont exist
you can tell the motherboard not to let the cpu request more than 1.4v if you want to
you can also tell it specific svid scenarios that influence loadline settings
and a whole bunch of other things
intel just has terrible load line settings and expectations of vdroop
As far as I can tell the default settings are fine now. Mine doesn't take more than 1.4v and I haven't done anything other than turn on Intel Defaults. But this doesn't even get into the microcode too.
you literally can make the cpus run at identical settings to stock or better with hundreds of millivolts less
quite silly
its basically just loadline
no other issue than intel was way too aggressive clocking 13th and 14th on the high end
then combated that by giving all the cpus a "Safe" vid curve that would at least be stable for the stupid freqs
the short of it is that most of the cpus in existence arent bad enough to be forced to the intel worst case profile
and the fact that its basically the default is just stupid
plain and simple. you should expect your cpus that you binned in the factory to actually be capable of what you binned them to and what their vf curve wants
You know of any good guides to doing manual settings for the 13900K rather than Intel Default settings? Otherwise I'm just sticking with the Intel Defaults. My big problem is that there was so much information & misinformation out there during this whole saga so I haven't really trusted looking up any guides to manual settings since there were some out there that were bad or didn't address other issues.
literally set a VR vout limit of 1400 and at that point youre as safe as you can be
anything past that is assurance/maximising potential
stops the cpu from ever requesting more than 1.4v and if it does itll just clock it down until it stops
itll never get above that
if you have an MSI or asus board its not bad to fix the default loadline
idk how to do it on any other vendor tho
it will be somewhere in your bios named something depending on your brand
IA VR VOUT specifically
IA means intel architecture (cores) vr is self explanatory, vout is too
Yeah hopefully they learned their lesson, because more than likely I'm going with AMD next time. We will see, because likely I won't upgrade until the start of AM6 depending on when that comes out. All I know AMD has promised to support AM5 until 2027 (but if it's anything like previous generation it will likely be longer, even if there is a period where both AM5 & AM6 CPUs are coming out at the same time. My big thing is I just don't want to get into AM5 towards the end. If I'm going with AMD I'm going in at the start of the socket generation since that will give me an upgrade path at the end of life of the socket. At least for my main PC, this isn't as big of deal for other builds, just for what I want to do with my main rig.
amd doesnt seem much better to be honest with you with the other rando issues ive seen
pick your poison scenario dont let others sway
Yeah I have a ASUS, Z790-E. If that's the case though I don't know if you really have to do it? I'm on the most recent BIOS (3107) and Intel Default Limits and HWINFO shows that my SA VID is 1.404V and never goes above that from everytime I have checked it.
But I guess it doesn't hurt either as an extra measure.
i have one/had one
should be in the ai tweaker menu i think either under the cpu settings or digi+ vrm settings
then it should be labeled what i called it
SA vid is system agent and not the cores. it also probably shouldn’t be at 1.4v
Yeah and I just checked the Vcore and it did go up to 1.421v and Core VID went up to 1.477v according to HWINFO. So I guess I shall try changing that.
(Under a OCCT test)
actively trying to get itself killed
This is closest I have been able to find and it's greyed out. This is what I hate about BIOS. They change shit, they change names, they're very untransparent with what the change, etc.
there is this too
Okay, figured it out. It's IA VR Voltage Limit from the first photo. It's greyed out because you have to type it in.
I have remembered my discord password

hi jorj
my poor 4080 Super is getting murdered by LLM tasks 😄
(to be precise, by calculating text embeddings)
Hello
@shell void tandem OLED comes to macbook with M6 right?
good to be back
no discord makes work real dull
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Just lost income. No dramas for anyone without a PS5
wait what
They’re setting themselves apart from Microsoft
yeh that is the rumor
chassis redesign and tandem rgb oled with dynamic island
85% isn’t murdered
M1 -> M6 would be a juicy upgrade
85%+ constantly for 15 minutes per attempt 😄
You’re just tickling it
huge
Yeah I have a PS5, just sucks to see the games not coming to PC
I like replaying them on PC for the higher fidelity
M6 macbooks will be cool for sure but i think im done with macbooks
being stuck to mac os on arm is buns
panther lake gave us a genuinely great X86 option and nova lake will expand on that
I'll have to see what's out there when I eventually upgrade this laptop
I'm hoping this laptop will last me another 2 semesters
Just needs a new battery
holy
I would just leave it plugged in 24/7 when I was WFH
and then a 11900H and 3050 Ti in an XPS body was not the greatest move
nah now that I've opened it up a few times it's pretty easy
It's a pretty easy to repair laptop other then getting the shell off
Especially since I'm missing 4 out of 8 screws on the bottom
i might open my vivobook and slap ptm inside ngl
the stock thermal compound is not it
god the wifi in my room is horrendous
yeah I've got PTM on here too, but XPS chassis is the real limiter
but I recommend it
yes I should treat the peasantly 8945HS better
that’s a feature bro faster swapping
you need to go buy as long a cable as you need and fix that
liquid metal it no balls
I wonder how well a thin DIY thermal putty "gasket" would fair in that scenario
i would love to liquid metal my 5090 but gigabyte decided to use a gallon of shmoo on the board instead of thermal pads and i’m too lazy to clean that up
the mixture of paste and liquid metal on the gpu core is also a hazardous mess
idk why they didn’t just use all metal if they were going to introduce the risk of shorts anyway
im planning to do a mesh system…. whenever we swap to 10gbps for the recontract
those are going to sell
omg its like an Apple chromebook
ipad with a built in keyboard but running mac os
quite amusing to me that there’s a M5 iPad but also an A18 Macbook
neat
one spec, for the most part. just two different storage options
yeah this is some weird blurred lines stuff
F1 pit crew fr fr
i would shill this laptop if apple made it 120Hz
i just can’t in good conscience recommend 60Hz to anyone in 2026
damn I could get a neo for 500
even my father notices the difference
I won't but neat
a $600 laptop from Apple brand new is still going to sell, I think.
i have a friend who just offered to buy me OLED for funi 420 
I kinda want one, but I'd rather have that M4 Mini
Damn the MacBook Neo is $599
Thanks Apple. Really making me consider getting a new laptop
yeah I like it too, but I don't really need another laptop
Windows laptops are also just better for me when I am in school
citrus is definitely the best color
Here is the problem. Apple's own refurb site is selling M4 Air's for $770. I'd like to see the difference between M4 and this A18 Pro
True
M4 probably crushes
16GB ram on the M4 is big
I quite like all the colors on this, seems like a good product
yeah the color is like the whole schtick now that i'm looking at it more lol
but that alone may be what'll sell it
for 499 its pretty compelling
i'm assuming a student discount?
yeah
nice
but anyone can get the EDU discount afaik
you just go to the education store and buy it
it doesn't require an edu email or anything
surely it can't be that simple..
$100 of just by going to another store front?
where is the catch lol
wait wtf
is the macbook neo actually good?
they say available for current and newly accepted blah blah blah, but i've never done anything to get the discount
it was announced like 40 minutes ago
yea ik
but if you compare the specs and shi,
it seems better to get a m2 or m3
I mean, read above
Mac mini is the same price
it only has 8GB of ram and a 60Hz display so it’s pretty low spec for 2026
This is wild, i must really not be paying attention if this has been common knowledge
yes, exactly.
they could atleast give it 12gb of ram and a 90hz display
most people I know don't know about it
mind you the display is a lcd
even for $500 it’s pretty low spec
yea
idk anything about budget laptops but for $500 it seems aight to me, I think the main selling point is just having MacOS
16GB of ram and 512GB SSD is pretty standard at $500
you can even get that for $350 with new laptops
$500 out the door for that form factor, build quality (assumed) and Mac OS.. yeah I mean, this will work as a daily laptop for many people who aren't interested in the nitty gritty specs
100% just meant for note taking and light spreadsheets
i just don’t see the point in buying a neutered macbook that’s almost as expensive as a significantly better macbook
when you can do those tasks on your phone or ipad
If anyone says just this and not any macOS specific thing I’d be calling them gonks
fax
if it was priced for 300 it woulda been a steal.
yeah the iPhone 16 processor is not exciting lol
private and charter schools will probably eat this up
I think I might get my friend onto a 5500x3d and 32gb ddr4 
maybe some rich public school districts too
its a nice little beginning spec
16GB, 512GB, and 2160x1440p IPS in a $200 new laptop
i wonder how it would feel to use windows 11 on that celeron n5105 though xD
this is a shockingly good price for a screen:
(If you combo with a dell tower, it's a stupid good steal)
pc on all fan spin reset CMOS etc and no lights on my keyboard or display? 🤔
L
fr
explosion
Ayo
at this point just get a ps5
Bro you just upgraded wym selling it
it’s my old pc
hope that someone in tech-support wants to start from scratch on basic troubleshooting
i ain’t waiting for 60 years just give me like loads of steps in what I could do for this fr
this pc is being reserved today it needs to be fixedddd
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you must be real bored
a little bit
while it's still less than <50 F I think
you gonna do a pee sauna like markiplier and ethan in unus annus?
that whole sentence is.. what
Guilty’s millennial brain just short circuited
I don't think i'm the only one Mac!
clearly you mfs didn’t watch unus annus
dude does anyone put tequila in the fridge
i've never purchased tequila in my life
They didn’t
when I was 15 maybe
i put all of my alcohol in the fridge and sometimes the freezer
i don’t like the taste of any of it so having it colder to dull the flavors is helpful
I've only ever put vodka in the freezer
did you?
Some

What
You guys disgust me
I put all my alcohol in the fridge
get one
But it's beer so this makes sense
yeah probably
This is fine
Liquor in the fridge is some teenager shit
im on hugging face trying to download qwen 2.5-7b and there is no download option or quantization option to choose from
some models dont
i don’t drink liquor to savor the taste brother it’s all bad, i just want the effect
colder = easier to drink faster
sparkling juice
Yep
But also I don't drink liquor anymore because it's too vile
where do i download gguf from then?
idk, im just saying some models dont have that option
also dont cross post here
How does Jensen have such swag jackets but such L glasses
swackets
me when I’m 12
michaels just young at heart and you're jealous Mac
na, I go for taste, if it taste like shit I aint drinking it
sweet red wines is great
I wonder if we will get other Neo products, wonder why this wasn't a MacbookE or smth
bad apple
red delicious
:(
It’s not my fault I’m canonically 45
true
Neo is not a name I had on my bingo card
Imagine
Polishing cloth neo
iPhone 18 Neo
USB-C to 3.5mm (male) connector Neo
Apple Vision Pro Battery Neo
it better be called iPhold or i riot
hm
the only right name, so it won't be called that
is it a gud game?
they’ll probably call it iPhone Fold which is so extra
controller is def the play here
gotta keep that iPhone branding
steve would call it iPhold
I got pretty far in with keyboard and mouse
I'm just hoping this new UI guy isn't terrible
idk it feels weird and Im not a controller guy
i like platforming with MnK idk
but I stopped playing Hollow Knight after my game pass ran out
i didn’t know they changed the guy, but i still think that iOS 26 is a visual downgrade from 18 after using it for a few months
okay well I reseated gpu cleared cmos reseated ram tried 1 stick then the other stick then I reseated cpu checked all cables and the pc isn’t posting so not sure now.
if it makes you feel better I am also not sure
13-inch MacBook Neo: $599
$100 too expensive
XD
also $599 in US = 720 euros in EU. Which makes it kinda dead on arrival for 'cheap market'
It's gonna be a minute before we see any changes in design
well it’s $500 from the education store and potentially stores like microcenter
Or at least significant changes
so if that $100 is all that broke it for you then there you go
yeah, forgot that retail for non-students is even more
$600 for non-students and 8GB RAM max
yeah, but hopefully in like iOS28 we get a step in the right direction
horrible value imo
It will run a web browser just fine
I think 28 releases will be a more significant change
27 releases are likely just refinements
ironically, the next question will be: why doesn't iPhone run macOS if the chip is capable ? 😄
Has the question ever been the chip?
bet this is also the SOC feature:
The MacBook Neo's two USB-C ports have two different specifications, with one being limited to USB 2 speeds.
One port is a USB-C 3 port with support for data transfer speeds up to 10 Gb/s, while the other is a USB-C 2 port with support for data transfer speeds up to 480 Mb/s. Both support charging, but only the USB-C 3 port features DisplayPort
and touchid is $100 extra LOL
the more i read about it, the worse it gets
anyone should get a macbook air imo instead
This is lame
It's bundled with the storage upgrade but come on
this is funny:
Come on Destiny, physics! lol
Space magic man
Apple is trying to target schools that buy Chromebooks by the thousands
However I don't know if apple has a software management solution that makes it applicable for such deployments
keep in mind that 8GB is also for the GPU too, it's unified memory - which is good, but also bad
Wireless mags
you haven’t heard of wireless bullets?
the mag actually just holds solid metal, that is melted down, forged into a bullet, and fired
it’s so obvious, you shoulda known this
some people were arguing that the mag just holds a liquid that the rest of the gun makes into rounds lol
idk if i'm tripping probably am, but Yahoo feels cleaner to look at than google, idk why
yahoo is also terrible and should just retire from existence
granted, google search ain't much better today, so....
man the warship caps limit really has to get a little less strict
space magic
but as long as you include some lower-case stuff in your message, you can actually type in a fuckton of caps
for example:
MSI MPG 274URDFW E16M
well i tried to say “ze bluetooth device is a connected successfulley” but in caps lol
that's your own fault for being stupid 😛
try typing the same message 3 times in a row, that's a fun one
even across 3 different channels
this is some quality fuckin' snark right here
https://www.polygon.com/sony-ps5-pc-games-sales-ended/
@steel stream guess I'm not playing horizon 3 fuck
very sad to see
will have to experience the game through let's plays
there are supposed rumors that the next Xbox will run windows and PC games, so PS execs are not thrilled about PS games running on Xbox hardware
Oh I've got some old Haswell dies i need to sand down
isn’t this like super sketchy lol
oh these are dead
I want to expose the transistors
do not play valorant at 11am EST
I'm tempted to get a couple of PCs from Microcenter for work....
Dell Tower:
i7 265K
32GB DDR5
1TB NVME
5060 TI (assuming 8gb)
- 27" 4k 120Hz IPS Display
1140 USD
(only downside: Win11 Home, so I'd have to upgrade to pro)
seems like a valid deal
the unemployeds get to you?
I miss being unemployed
same
yeah
gotta watch out for those heathens
Although I'll be in person at a new job this summer so hopefully that will be better
they have one i believe
MDM lets you securely and wirelessly configure Apple devices, whether they’re owned by the user or your educational organization.
$499 edu is a nice price for it icl. $699 for the 512gb is ehhhh
it's still dumb that they sell a 8GB neutered device for $499/$599, when M4 Air was as low as $750 with 16GB RAM
tbf itll probably be on sale
eventually
but yeah m2 was also super cheap as well during those sales
anyway, i think it's time to ask for work macbook now. My Intel macbook has a year or so life left, but meh, m5 14" macbook pro looks like a fine choice (with 16 or 32GB RAM)
that was actually much easier than the pentium
also the silicone is as gone as it’s gonna get, it’s just the angle making it look bad
the beloved monolithic stick of gum processor
I just got the best parking spot in the entire lot at work I’m finna 
play valorant at work
I’m not sure the 14500 iGPU could do it
it could 100%
Well, 1080p 60hz is a low bar
im watching a dude play it at 1440p low and hes getting like 120-220fps depending on what's happening
it could most definitely do 1080p60 locked easily
@pure garnet @merry stirrup i didn’t mess up lol
panther lake igpu gonna be nice
i shut those themes off
it did this one by default, i believe it’s the motherboard
i like the default colors
btw the silicone on the 4790k was way easier to scrape off than the pentium… wonder if it’s just age or if devils canyon used different silicone
age prolly
i really wanna try an igpu overclock now but i know firsthand that this generation has ZERO driver support anymore
and any game released after 2018 is probably gonna artifact
you can run Heaven. might actually be period correct
i chuckle when people get their new 5080 and ask if their Heaven benchmark is good
i find that it’s helpful for exposing at what frequency your core starts artifacting
but as a benchmark, yeah probably not lol
personally i use the cs source benchmark for my 2025 gpu
It's becoming a whole gd vibe in hereeee
An old lady called because she needed help with her laptop; she cant open files
turns out she has fucking Linux Mint installed like what
@pure garnet holy shit dude -14c in cinebench
woah, when did it become so dark?
I'd guess the acoustic paneling
@steel stream @edgy laurel it’s timeeeee
could it be. could this be an actual upgrade
finally
Vincent my goat
you had a window behind the monitors at first right? I like the new look, curious as to why you decided to cover up the natural light
or did you just switch things around
Yeah, but it was mostly obscured by a shed so like
why not isolate all the sound to my office
fair enough
the main upgrade is a much faster processor with better upscaling and color gradient handling
damn nice
that looks great
Everytime i plug in my sata ssd (or any sata hdd) my laptop refuses to turn on at all. When the ssd is removed it turns on fine... until i saw smoke from the sata connecter area. havent turned on my laptop since. what do i do?
Honestly it's something I've wanted to do for years so it's more or less a "studio" at this point
dope dope dope
I'm also looking at getting a c5 55"
they’re kinda doing a nvidia
since the big 30th birthday is approaching
they have more advanced super resolution and fake hdr features this year
like VSR and RTX HDR
neat
I'm happy with that
also, the darker menus are nice
LG menus are eye searing in HDR
same with subtitles
this is how @topaz veldt describes the brightness on his LG G4 while watching Bluey with his kid(s) at night
i want to know how much brighter 42 c6 is
if it’s like 50% brighter than 42 c4 and has lower latency and higher refresh rate then i’d be intrigued
(hdr color booster doesn’t work in game mode on 42 c4 so you have to sacrifice like 5-7ms of latency in filmmaker mode)
if it's like 1500 nits and 165Hz I would upgrade too tbh
or even 1200
1200 nits at the distance I use it would be peak
1200 + 165Hz + good game mode with smoother colors would be nice
hopefully closer to 300nits in sdr
🙏
this is priceless:
then I could use my C4 to replace the old roku bed TV
you just know this mf runs an amiga for a daily driver
C64 lol
finally bought some speaker stands for my klipsch coming saturday

omfg, I would fall over dead if I found this:
brutal
I will murder
insanity
whoever did that atrocity
does.... does that mean someone went through the effort of stripping ethernet wires?
like, WHY
not soon enough
Eh, depends on why you were in there. If you were looking for the home run for all the lines, you've found it. Time to just clealy cut them and start terminating to your patch panel.
but have you ever tried to hand-strip the individual ethernet wires? It's horrid to try
i mean you only need to do whatever is required for the patch panel
for some, lot of the work looks to be done for you
Hmmm
Without being in IT I can't say if it's good or not, but simply existing is the minimum requirement
why there are wire nuts on them, who knows, but they must just not have been in use
poster said it ran to a VOIP phone and an AP
the guess was an electrician fucked up and "fixed" it without anyone knowing
slowly narrowing the gap to the 7700k lol
Lol helldivers
I'll be honest no idea
ew
i overclock haswell
your values and adjustments you have available are way different than mine
@frank zealot don’t joy emoji me biiiii
Didn't mean to delete that, meant to edit it. I figured it out. I was supposed to only mess with Global Core SVID Voltage, put it in adaptive mode, then minus, then what the underclock I want to try.
lookin good at 4.7
went up to 5628 on my last pass but i don’t want to keep spamming images
shoutout to the greatest PC building channel on the internet https://www.youtube.com/@pc-zombies/videos
How to build a PC from Mom and Dad
They're great! 😄
i gotta keep these people in mind for like super beginners
thats what beginners need! Boomer style instructions!
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I'm not even sure that's enough for some of the people who are borderline intentionally obtuse
yeah you right
you weren't in the thread yesterday where the machine didn't post cuz he didn't plug in the second half of the ATX24 pin to the PSU >.<
giving him the benefit of the doubt for now but a forum guy is asking how to put his motherboard into the case. all we can really tell him is to lift it up and place it in
"I thought it was to connect to something else"
r23 is kinda just a “it’s not immediately shitting itself” sanity check
i’m aware r23 doesn’t prove stability
huh....
J2C just brought up an idea that honestly makes some sense.
Do you think the current AI RAM debacle will push back the public implementation of DDR6?
Almost certainly
I'd expect it to, also....
It's just a nightmare currently
yeah enterprise is moving to pcie 6 and ddr6 soon but consumers are staying on 5 until the end of the decade
splitting fab capacity? yikes
there’s not really any rush to upgrade because the 9850x3d is still the gaming king even with 64GB/s read and 32GB/s write bandwidth which is ddr4 era speed
Ryzen 10k/11K (Whatever it is) in 2027 (maybe?)
So, the followup wouldn't be till 2029/30ish? w DDR6.... would make some sense.
Intel might have something slightly sooner, but... only maybe?
you can get 140GB/s+ with a high speed dual channel ddr5 config
LGA 1954 DDR5 and PCIE5:
~2027 Nova Lake
~2028 Razer Lake
~2029 Titan Lake
maybe in 2030 a new platform with ddr6 and pcie6?
hard to guesstimate that far out though
has intel committed to Razer and Titan being the same socket/platform?
(I mean, going to PCIE6 is... meh, I don't see people generally caring about that. 5 is MORE than fast enough for everything consumer.)
they haven’t acknowledged either of them publicly but they’ve been mentioned in the linux kernel
the most up to date official public information from intel is that nova lake is still planned for a late 2026 release
which was stated by lip bu tan in a recent earnings call
it’ll probably be a paper launch with limited stock for a couple of months like what happened with the ultra 9 285k and now panther lake
which is why i said ~2027
mmmmm kernel
that tracks
supposedly the first lineup of intel+nvidia combo APUs is called Serpent Lake
I could see Razer or Titan potentially doing a "new chipset that can do DDR6" while keeping the Nova chipset for existing DDR5 compatibility.
another "halfway" transition period
ok cool name
I feel like titan lake would do that
I can't see Razer doing that
intel has done multi dram support several times before so maybe
i think they’d be smarter to just keep consumers on ddr5 though
yeah, keep Z990 around for them with DDR5.
Z1090 (or whatever) either suppors both or just DDR6
maybe that’ll be when i actually buy a new laptop
(probably not i still won’t need one)
the taxbook pro needs to be replaced
rofl
the taxbook pro is iconic though
it’s always like 6 months out of date when i turn it on, and programs won’t work until i set the time correctly
it wont pull updates or let me web browse until i reset the time
bros gotta pick up da $2.50 ebay cmos battery
Alright I need to price out my AM4 system.
I'm surprise it doesn't just fix itself upon powerup and internet connection
Getting rid of it?
It should have went long ago
Floppa will probably take it
done. next question
oh you’re selling lmao
Make the linux desktop disappear
Asus B550i STRIX
5800x
32GB Corsair 3200MT/s garbage
500GB Samsung 970 Evo
XFX RX6600
EK 360 AIO
Corsair SF750 Platinum
9 NZXT Aer 2 RGB fans
Lian Li 011 Mini
no cpu?
oh
probs like 650 no? Idk too much about the used market anymore
yeah I know even less, thats the problem lol
its certainly setup for a beefier GPU, at least it was. used to house a 3090
i would keep the ssd and psu
still totally viable today
Yeah I thought about the PSU, its too good
if it helps, i sold a x570 + 5800x + 32gb g skill 3600 for $335 in november, before ram got really crazy
but obviously that only does so much to help
are the laptop prices increasing too with the ram?
The SSD is old, man. Still 95%+ health per CDI but I wanna say I bought that back when I had a 2700x
but yes still perfectly adequate
well manufacturers are starting to sell 8gb laptop skus again so you tell me
that’s a tlc + dram drive man it’s good
sell the pc and buy a mac mini Guilty
hmm The rams got more worth than the whole stuff
the 8bitdo evernight is nice but the triggers take some getting used to
thats the plan lol. I just need another machine on my desk thats independent of the main rig
hell yeah
and something new to play with (MacOS) and low power would be neat. Plus, more desk space
my crappy ryzen processor has failed to boot again
the space savings is insane
probably no where near as fancy as you're used to
convert the 970 into an external usb c ssd
honestly aside from the joysticks being a lot more tensioned they’re similar
this is my plan with my laptop at the moment, sell it off for whatever it's worth and get the new m5 mba
the xbox elite controller was the nicest controller i've ever held
but that is the most unreliable controller on earth
@wise bear I saw this while looking at Facebook based on a link my friends parent sent my friend who sent it to me
@edgy laurel you also seem like you might like this
reminds me of the days when i wired up a P55 board and it wouldn't POST... Lost 30 minutes, till i realized that i cablemanaged all the cables, everything was nice - except the EPS cable was just hovering above the EPS connector and was not actually plugged in the motherboard. 2nd biggest facepalm of my life (the biggest one was when i forgot to peel of the sticker from the bottom of cooler once)
i read P55 as PS5 and was hella confused
Is that not ps5
?
oh wait nevermind
oh P55
P FIVE FIVE
i want it so bad 😭
I really just wanted the $400 Mac Mini deal but slept on it
yeah guess i'm cooked too
i was so mad when that deal came out just after i upgraded to AM5
literally a week after i bought a 7800x3d, B650E and 32g ddr5 that $400 mac mini deal came out
Was that really something you cross shop though?
cross shop meaning?
7800x3d setup and Mac Mini are not equivalent products
meaning you wouldn't shop for those two to do the same job
dying ant vs supernova

they are not - bought just to upgrade platforms. given the choice now i would've bought the mac mini
Interesting
mmm 1st gen
it's more like "i spent all my money on AM5, now i can't buy a Mac Mini" i think
i was going to swap off AM4 anyway and the mac deals at the time didn't look too fun
ironically the first CPU death i had. Sure, it was after years, but the i5-750 in it died
i think it'll work out though, portability of the macbook air seems like something i could get into
who would buy a mac mini when they can have a 7800x3d
lol, i had that same cpu 10y ago
person who needs to do iOS development ?
ig
I just want both, and I already have the 7800x3D lol
yea
someone who would've enjoyed trying a new OS and doesn't spend as much time gaming as they thought they would
I need another AppleTV for my room
is it possible to run macos inside hyperv vm
thats not really what i'm after
I want the hardware and a phyiscally independent PC
to do real work on
I just think Mac minis are neat
also that lol
I don't think Apple Silicon is VM'd yet?
You could potentially do it with an older OS that supports intel
I'd need another monitor though
I've got a whole 34" ultrawide to dedicate lol
and personally i have no reason to own a laptop with a ryzen 9 7940HS and a 4060
3 monitors on this desk
should i upgrade my laptop ram sooner or wait for the prices to drop
its only been a week since i bought it
I kind of want a side monitor, but I like the way my setup looks without it
do u feel like you're struggling without it?
with how big my display is I think im ok
nope
i'd wait then
16gigs are enuff for the time ig
@frank zealot i wanna reach through the damn screen https://linustechtips.com/topic/1633189-how-to-fit-motherboard-into-case/#comment-16871847
ah neat
i bought this laptop with 16G of memory back in 2023, i ran multple VMs daily for attack simulations at school, everyday i thought "i think i need more memory, but i think i'll wait and see"
btw these are the specs i think i should wait
i finished my last semester a couple weeks ago without ever upgrading
do you know if the memory is soldered or nah
you can't help people who need to feel incompetent
and nothing newer will ever be imo, as Tahoe is the last Intel macOS
someone will figure out emu
x86 hardware pretending its arm while OS emulates x86
mmm optimised
what website is this from?
thanks boss
we don't even have patchers for Macs with T2 chips which were dropped by Apple, and you hope someone will do a full arch emulation. Optimistic i see
My clg's already toying with wifi
banned discord, twitter, reddit
set a 40mbps data limiter
your who
sounds like me
the what
do you go to BYU or smth
focus on your studies with “clg”
nahh bro
On the forum, assisting with bypassing school / home network or software restrictions is very much against the rules
the data coverage is shit
are you in the US?
ouu
buy starlink and go ham
what's a clg
Next up: fool them with Stoat, Mastodon, and Tumblr. Lol.
I tried talking to the IT but they said they cant install a router in my room
yes they typically wont
if this is in the US, a college restricting your internet is nuts
access point, you mean
he's not in the US
they have plenty routers
*access point
😭
and the lan port is in front of my room
so what's the issue you're facing
it wasnt like this before
a month ago the wifi speed was like 150-200mpbs
now whenever i download a file above 30gb the download always fail
this seems like a campus IT problem
you go to firewall, edit traffic shaping policy and remove trafic shapers
open a ticket
my college wifi did not give a shit
yeah access the school's firewall
could do whatever
where is this?
same I got so many Linux iso’s
wait lemme show u sumthing
fortimanager
I got like 8TB bro shit was nuts
So.. as a student in presumably a dorm, how does that help them lol
thats a fortigate one?
god forbid you install your own AP or switch though
it doesent but question was "do anyone know how"
oh I installed a switch and it was chill
fortigate central managment
I got away with a dumb switch but the moment I tried to do a wireless AP they were like “yo stop that”
I didn't have wifi, it was wired only.
dang im tripping i thought it was sophos
but i only had my laptop
ah yeah, I had a dumb switch, but that makes sense
I wanted to put an AP but never got around to it
and it’s funny cause I worked in my colleges IT department so my boss was like “did you try to install an AP in your dorm room?” And I was like uhhhhh maybe
I talked to a senior yesterday
i think now you can get away with a travel router nowadays
should have blamed it on the roommate smh
yeah i mean this was 2006
should've made a 2026 travel router in 2006 and sold it for a million dollars
roommate was studying criminal justice and I upgraded his pc for him he wouldn’t even know what he was being asked LMAO
we all make our mistakes
I mogged tf out of my roommates pc man
even when I had the 4070
All I did was help him upgrade is storage and gpu
yeah I think at one point i had to help fix my roommates pc problems
i cant say the same, i bought a used mining gpu from my buddy cause he had 15 of them
Same happenned with my roommate a week ago
he was on a single HDD, got him on SSDs and we swapped his rx580 for a 6650XT

he also had that one NZXT case with no intake
damn that's a huge upgrade
roommate was running I think a 3070 and 2700x I wanna say
i am more evil, i limit to 50mbps
I tried to get him on AM4 when it was cheap but he didn’t want to

I could’ve had him on a B550 and 5600x for like $150 lmao
I'd tell another computer or electrical engineer that I was using Intel and they'd flame my ass
people in this server are baffled when you buy anything that isn’t 5 years old
Time to play a 13 year old game
no matter what I say I always get hit with "why didn't you buy ryzen" "AMD crushes intel" "Intel is garbage"
i remember when people were blasting at me for putting my brother on a 5600x and a 4060 when he was coming from a i5-6600 and a 1070
trying to validate 4.7 in prime95 now
vro there are like 1100 people in one building and more than half of em are suffering
vrchat
fun times
mfs when you do anything besides game 

win 7?
I just like the CPU arch man, I don't need the extra 10 FPS in CS
idk why its still installed tbh
I got my brother on a 5600x + 3070 for stupid cheap. I hooked him up. He was on a i5 6500 and GTX 960 previously.
tbh 400fps is all you need
500-600 is for comfort
my brothers on a good rig now, he used to have 2700x + 2060 super but he's on a 5800x3d and 4070 now
im on a shit rig
gaming at 1440P too so he's chilling
7600X and 4070 super
I was on a i3 4th gen laptop and then my brother put me on intel Ultra 7 255hx and 5060
I’m trying to get my brother to buy my spare 1440p 240hz OLED but
yeah similar situation here, he was on a 256g hand me down sata SSD, i found a deal with a 5600, 32G ddr4 and B550M for $125 USD, later on got him on the 4060 and a 1tb 990 evo
I sold my 1440P MSI to my brother for like 200
but everything else I've just given to him for free
alongside a $75 144hz display
I told him it’s his for like $250
OLED's just as spares, floating around for free. love it
yeah that's solid
He’s on like a 27” 1080p 165Hz VA rn like
i wish i had an oled display
but i also wish i had a lot of things, like a new table
they're cheap if you have a brother, apparently
hopefully C6 42 is nuts and I can upgrade this C4
im the brother who makes things cheap unfortunately
like whats the price of that rn?
I was peer pressured into buying a C4 so that first OLED monitor I bought got like 4 months of use and then has been sitting since
GARAGE WIFI IS PEAK
$400ish I think idk I don’t keep up now
isn't it great man
thats allat
peer pressured my ass, you were unhappy with that 1440p from day 1 lol
Ehhhhh I’m not sure I was
I was kind of disappointed in the 144 to 240 hz not being a bigger jump than it was but that was about it
i too was peer pressured by my friend into buying a 10G network switch that i've been looking into for months
1440p was fine, but the C series has always been my dream
lol mac occt avx2 makes a 4790k shit the bed even with a delid
all cores immediate to 100c
There is a C3 on PC user here too, can't recall the name
you’d die if you knew what I paid for my current display
$455 USD for a brand new 27" 1440p 240hz OLED wtf?
yeah that's about the price for them now
Yeah they’re decently affordable nowadays
kind of shocking in singapore, prices are usually hiked way up
before your base OLED started at like $800 lmao
he was talking about all these issues he's had with GSync turning it self off or just general issues getting a picture sometimes when resuming from sleep. I can't say I've had any issues like that at all
There's a lab of mine every monday I tried plugging in the lan
oh singapore, yeah idk anything about that
it came to be 1 gbps
all the other displays are $650 and up
More reason to just never use sleep
my power is so cheap rn i just leave the pc on
i guess i've been lucky. It works perfectly for me
I just shut my computer down
it’s not like it takes more than 10 seconds to boot
its actually $423 USD after discounts
If I'm gone for a while i turn it off, but if I'm going to one class or smth I just leave it on
only hiccup i've had is a few times I wake the PC and C2 and don't get a picture... but itsbecause the input has changed somehow
dang i would actually get it if i didn't just buy another monitor
I pay like $20 a month in power
I’ve had mine give me some black screens on boot before, but the display driver reset hotkeys fix it
hm i could sell this one off to my brother
the one time its ever been useful
nah im broke
I feel like I've had some display issues, but nothing that a power off or reboot wouldn't fix
anyone here think that a 5 port 10G dummy switch for $180 USD is worth it?
the main issue that i encounter is that the display will only handshake with the PC once, and that means it needs a power cycle after every driver update
like unplug from power completely
it’s certainly inconvenient but tolerable
I have not had that happen yet, but that's interesting
michael you get the worst issues
it’s been like this since day one with several pc configs and os versions xD
I think michael is getting the mac bin somehow
i assumed it was just the norm
I've never once had to do that
I think my C2 has been unplugged from the wall once and thats when I moved
I found out my brother has been leaving his OLED just unplugged like all the time
I’ve experienced this as well
what, like not using it?
yeah he barely uses it, and if he does use it, right after turning it off it's unplugged
oh no
@wise bear @edgy laurel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIWnCSnxVKw
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when the fuck did il2 have korean war planes
i dunno, never played it
haven't really played any flight sims since the 90's, other than messing around in FS2020
im excited for last of us part 3
speaking of games, @steel stream i was saying that I just had to bail on RDR2. the pacing was just killing me
my god when did the 3060 start appearing in minimum requirements
you fool
youve literally not experienced anything yet
and thats fine
wasn't having fun
I'm sure its great if you're into the slow cinematic pace. wasn't for me
Well its vr
wonder if this is collectible
yep same here
original in packaging sli bridge
it's also flatscreen
most people play il2 flatscreen with track ir
not really
they were is most GPU boxes back in the day
@pure garnet thoughts?
aren't 5070's around this price new
Choose A Video Card
actually i guess openbox would be more comparable
damn, how far did you get?
frankly I have no idea. I can't make any sense of the quest management system (or lack thereof). i'm was just picking random yellow markers, spending the 10 minutes to ride all the way out there, then riding back again
hmm... i could get my brother to pick it up when he goes back to toronto on friday
Yes. I broke the dude out from Strawberry
but idk when he's coming back
oh you broke out Micah
Yeah. Weapons piss me off too, and i should switched to MnK. Aiming is horrible and I have all the AA stuff on full
Unfortunately, I think RDR2 is one of those games where you have to play through it, recognize the story go "holy shit" and play again
walk is SO slow you basically aren't moving and then there is full on sprint
dude it's terrible
guns aren't fun
yeah i couldn't beat red dead, the pacing was so slowwww
and I have a whole bunch of guns on my horse but the mechanism for managing that and what you take with you when you get off the horse was a PITA, and seemingly always out of ammo
game is probably fantastic but mechanically we weren't jiving
i've never once ran out of ammo in red dead
story is great, mechanics are eh
I even had a mod that auto-looted people you kill and still hardly ever had any ammo
I had to swap to a controller at some point to tame a horse, on MnK it was terrible
I was just always using deadshot to make gunfights viable
yeah, I was crutching on that hard on controller lol
even MnK i was crutching
oh damn
imma be honest i kinda forgot about deadeye for the first maybe 10 hours i played rdr2
i was gifted rdr2 and i havent played it yet
I need to finish up Death Stranding, but I'm getting into factorio rn
oh wow i thought tthe 4070ti was faster
brutal
i did get good at the gunplay tho
im saying, there are $850 CAD 5070's on PCPP
oh wttf my laptop is double typing now
I started a new game in Alan Wake 2 last night. Well, I got as far as tinkering with DLSS settings
what game is it?
I want to play that for mesh shaders
never heard of that
michael clued me in on DLSS model override just doesn't work when using Ray Reconstruction
this is true
and AW2 has PT, which pretty much requires RR on
oh, I did not know that
attleast it's cheap to replace
actually getting my moneys worth with frameworkk now
Luckily it still looked pretty good on the 2023 spec CNN model, i guess
maybe pull the one you have out and clean it before buying a new one
you make a goddamn good point
nah spend the 40
it's 55 actually theres the second gen and the first gen
Oh you can't even force override to get transformer? that's terrible
nvm just clean it
nope, not unless you disable RR
canadian tho
I would have figured it would use the most recent model with RR
Yeah RR forces on and ancient preset
damn
should i just take it out and just dunk it inn a bunch of ipa?
talk to Mark
that seems like a bit of a waste of IPA

