tech-chat-2

[frank zealot]

Never expected sata

[analog plover]

160 fps is very gaming

Dang msata drives over like 120gb are hard to find in the wild lol

[mild sentinel]

just curious does qd oled have burn in issues after long usage 🤔

[low sorrel]

Yesn't

[mild sentinel]

so 50/50 🤔

[edgy laurel]

its not a yes or no question

or rather, its yes because its possible with any OLED type

[mild sentinel]

mmmm

[gentle urchin]

Yeah, get a 60" plasma TV instead

[arctic bronze]

plasma 😭

[gentle urchin]

Works like a charm to this day

I don't even notice the burn-in

[frank zealot]

Sort of, but not terribly likely if you take basic precautions

[edgy laurel]

dude on hardforum is rocking triple 65" plasmas and gaming on them

sorry, 60"

reportedly running at 7080x3840@60Hz downscaled to 3240x1920

a "huh, neat" moment. its not enticing at all

[green marsh]

not that hard to find, just stupidly expensive

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah, i could never understand gaming on split setups like this

like, it’s cool, but i’m good

[mild sentinel]

holy gap, thats like a 2-3cm gap? (idk inch)

[little bobcat]

Can someone help me with tpm 2.0

[edgy laurel]

Way back in 2011ish I was gaming on triple 1080p but each display was landscape, so super wide

AMD Eyefinity

[pallid marsh]

The one inch bezel gaps are a real turnoff

[cosmic gazelle]

I’ve been using mismatched monitors since I’ve had a PC lol, monitors have always been my lowest priority

[edgy laurel]

well thats a shame considering how much an impact a good one can have

its what you're looking at all day

[cosmic gazelle]

i have a viewsonic ips 1440 144hz

but it’s not like that great anymore

probably on par with a lower end panel these days

[turbid locust]

Dbrand thinks they’re funny

[edgy laurel]

dude I love their humor

its one of those things that catches you off your guard and I always have to chuckle

[low sorrel]

@frank cypress https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2026AG0013-000209

[pallid marsh]

Canadians will do everything but upgrade gpus

[gentle loom]

hey guys just got a rx 9070xt off my friend for £250 plus he gave me 32gb ddr5 6000mhz and a motherboard and a 600w psu but idk if it’s the gpu or psu making this strange buzzing sound

here is the sound

not sure if my psu or gpu is screaming for help

[pallid marsh]

Only £250

[gentle loom]

yeah

he is having a transform because he’s I mean she sorry is trans and needs money so

they didn’t care about their pc and gave it all to me because they know I love pcs

they couldn’t sell the stuff because people are dodgy and annoying so they just did this instead

[pure garnet]

it fell off a truck

[gentle loom]

it works fine the gpu so

[edgy laurel]

I can't hear anything but typically if a GPU is making noise its a physical fan thing or coil whine under load

[gentle loom]

just a faint humming sound i’m not sure if it’s normal so

maybe coil whine not sure I have a 750w gold psu so..

I heard it sufficient enough for it

[edgy laurel]

that has on bearing

[arctic bronze]

this is cursed

[low sorrel]

I hear coli whine

It's really faint

[edgy laurel]

and if the card is idle, unlikely to be coil whine

[gentle loom]

yeah it is

[gentle loom]

it’s not idle I was under full load

[pallid marsh]

I swear 9070xt coil whine is a common thing

[gentle loom]

it’s normal when idle

[edgy laurel]

then thats probably what it is. setup a framerate cap

[low sorrel]

See that assumes you can hit the framerate cap

[gentle loom]

you can’t hear it under full load

[gentle loom]

how do I do it in amd I forgot lol I need to see to 180fps

[pallid marsh]

I get coil whine with hdr when the screen is mostly white

[gentle loom]

also why does this gpu have AI slop features I didn’t ask for I didn’t download it but still

[arctic bronze]

dlss and frame gen isnt ai slop

upscaling and frame gen*

[edgy laurel]

who knows what they're even talking about

[gentle loom]

should I use fsr upscaling in amd

[frank cypress]

damn

[pallid marsh]

Share holder value

[gentle loom]

I’m used to older gpus this is all new to me.

[edgy laurel]

its not a "should i" sorta question. If you have a use for it and can benefit from it, you're free to experiment and decide on your own

[arctic bronze]

why are you asking us, that is your choice

[gentle loom]

oh ok

[arctic bronze]

its just like graphics settings, its what ever you wanna use

[low sorrel]

Kinda weird that we're going to be ahead of Washington, Oregon and Cali for half the year

[pallid marsh]

Wait we will have the same time half the year then

Mountain time is an hour ahead of stinky Cali

[frank zealot]

try it and figure out if you like it

if you do? use it
If you don't? don't

see if any quality changes are worth the extra FPS you get in your world

[pallid marsh]

If it's fsr4 (or fsr 3.1 that can get upgraded to fsr4 in the amd software) yes

[gentle loom]

I used with and without it and with it the textures look all grainy and weird

it looks like the card has artifacting with fsr but without it, it looks good

[topaz veldt]

coil whine

[gentle loom]

it’s gone away now I set fps cap to 180

it’s only a teeny tiny bit there now but it’s not audible unless you listen close

[edgy laurel]

what preset? You really have to understand what upscaling is and what it would be useful for before just screwing around

[gentle loom]

I’m not sure honestly

I have 0 clue about all this stuff I just put the card in do medium/high graphics or optimise and that’s it

this card is so good though it’s quiet

[topaz veldt]

that's how you know its coil whien

[gentle loom]

yup

it’s common I presume..?

[topaz veldt]

@river mountain the most exciting thing I've ordered in a while. Got this for my son. https://a.co/d/0go5zahS

[edgy laurel]

FSR (and DLSS) work on the basic principle of rendering less pixels than your native display (1440p in your case) then upscaling back up to native. There are presets you pick from when enabling it such as Quality, Balanced, Performance (possibly a few more).

If you're not getting the performance you're after in a game and its purely due to GPU horsepower, you may try enabling FSR in the Quality preset which will render the games at 1080p then upscale back to 1440p.

[edgy laurel]

tagged the wrong guy lol

[topaz veldt]

ffs

[gentle loom]

oki

[edgy laurel]

do you already have it? Is it actually cool?

[turbid locust]

Tbf I do too lol

[topaz veldt]

I watched reviews of it, looks pretty cool

it comes tomorrow

Little dude got this cheapy one from his friend for xmas or something and it broke and was AA batteries lol

[edgy laurel]

Rolls Royce ain't got THAT

[gentle loom]

what’s a good micro atx case easy to build in and white I now have a ddr5 motherboard and ram so I wanna build another pc for my brother

[edgy laurel]

some people are really put off

[topaz veldt]

https://youtu.be/VfLHjNX-YOo?si=8VEM-CjFI2w4MyCp&t=257

[edgy laurel]

https://lian-li.com/product/a3-matx/

[gentle loom]

I like lian li

[turbid locust]

well you know how I feel about some people

[gentle loom]

they make pretty good cases this lian li 216 is a good case

[turbid locust]

I can personally vouch for the 216 and A3

[edgy laurel]

the Lancool series is great. not a whole lot more you can ask for. the A3 is a bit different in that its quite compact

[gentle loom]

kinda annoyed now tho I dropped all this money on this am4 motherboard and my friend just gave me am5 with 6000mhz ddr5..

[edgy laurel]

Lian Li rarely misses

[gentle loom]

do you know any lian li micro atx cases that have like 3 rgb fans or something

not sure if I wanna give this pc to my brother or sell it for a shit ton of money

[topaz veldt]

he linked you to the A3

[edgy laurel]

does it have to be 3? the budget 206 and 207 have RGB versions but they're just two larger fans

[topaz veldt]

the A3 is the one to get

[brave panther]

a3 in question

[edgy laurel]

oh they do a North style A3, didn't realize

there was a case in the last few years.. shit i'm trying to remember. Depending on what front panel version you got it was either sealed or vented

it was a non-standard layout

might have even been ITX

[turbid locust]

The wood front panel is vented on the A3, black and white aren’t

[edgy laurel]

Oh, well that might have been it then

I guess you have to run the PSU fan facing in on the non-vented or is there enough room

[turbid locust]

Depends on if you have an ATX psu or SFX

and how big your gpu is

[edgy laurel]

did you ever go SFX?

[turbid locust]

The A3 has like a crazy config list

[turbid locust]

nah

[edgy laurel]

oh, shit.. yeah I remember looking at this. the combinations and stipulations are.. vast

[turbid locust]

Yeah it’s nuts

[turbid locust]

*I decided it made more sense to downsize my cpu cooler considering I was going from a cpu that could draw 300W to one that draws like 140W max, than to spend like $250 on a quality SFX psu.

[patent gorge]

great if you're buying from them directly, annoying when you're buying through retailers with only specific versions

[fringe vigil]

this is how we do it

its friday night

[low sorrel]

@edgy laurel hows your making your gmmk pro not shit plan going?

[topaz veldt]

@low sorrel hows you make the entire chat stop

[low sorrel]

im just like that

[topaz veldt]

lol

[low sorrel]

goop goop goop

[pure garnet]

i have gotten stick drift on my dualsense edge

very epic potentiometers sony got here

[edgy laurel]

for what that costs they better replace it

[pure garnet]

no that's the gimmick, it's $20 to buy a new stick module

but i'll probably shop around and grab some tmr ones that people have made

[edgy laurel]

well, at least that option exists

still shitty

[pure garnet]

pretty sure it's by design at this point

[pallid marsh]

I always forget Xbox sells a $200 controller

[pure garnet]

it's the best feeling controller ever until it falls apart in 3 months

[low sorrel]

https://www.rtings.com/company/revamping-our-membership-program
@edgy laurel

[pallid marsh]

Doesn't affect me

[edgy laurel]

i'm not sure ifit affects me either

[pallid marsh]

Do you not support rtings?

[edgy laurel]

tl;dr?

[pallid marsh]

We've had a soft paywall for a few years now, with a limited number of free pageviews on most product categories. We are now moving to a more membership-supported model to ensure RTINGS.com can remain independent

[edgy laurel]

i don't pay them as it is, i'm not going to now

[pure garnet]

$10/mo for product reviews

[low sorrel]

While much of RTINGS.com remains free, our full test results and in-depth product analysis are now available only to members. We'll continue to iterate on what that looks like over time as we refine the model across different product categories.

[pure garnet]

they can take a hike for that price

[edgy laurel]

i noticed lots of stuff was behind a paywall recently

monitors didn't seem to be

that would be annoying if it changes

[low sorrel]

31.50 for a year

[pure garnet]

for the first year*

[pallid marsh]

With how often I check them monthly I find it worth it to support them

[low sorrel]

45 for your second year

[pure garnet]

how many tvs are you buying a year

[pallid marsh]

0 but I always like looking at new reviews of fancy TVs or to help others buy a new one

[cosmic gazelle]

anybody know anything about the $130 asrock 1440p 144hz panels?

[edgy laurel]

nope, other than they're not asrock panels

to my knowledge, asrock doesn't produce LCD's

[pure garnet]

would assume it’s either lg or boe

like 99% of ips gaming monitors

[cosmic gazelle]

sorry i didn’t mean panel

more so just, is it shit

[edgy laurel]

Oh the third rates guys. AUO still a thing too I think

er, AUO

[merry stirrup]

so when you do this you bypass the psus protections

never ever turn on a gpu without the cables plugged in

unfortunately the card exploding was entirely on you

[pure garnet]

kaboom

[merry stirrup]

i did this with a 1060 i got for free that would trip my psu and it actually caught on fire

not like a haha small mosfet gone

talking like the whole thing kaboomed

tldr always use the plugs unless they’re optional for some reason. also if a card is shorting your computer, stop trying to turn it on

a lot worse could’ve happened than the dead gpu dying more

[low sorrel]

welp time to never use rtings again

[edgy laurel]

welp, time to go elsewhere

i mean, gotta do what you gotta do i suppose.

can't just employ people to do a job for free

[low sorrel]

I understand WHY

but i ain't paying that much

[tepid mason]

Does the rx 9070 non xt have about double the performance of the rx 9060xt

[frank zealot]

if only there were hours and hours of videos somewhere you could watch where people give you explicit details about things like that

[tepid mason]

Im too lazy

[edgy laurel]

or TPU's graphs

[frank zealot]

get fuckin' moving

[shell void]

no it's about 1.5x, not 2x

[tepid mason]

But it would be a noticeable improvement

[shell void]

yes it's substantial

[edgy laurel]

what annoys me about TPU is some cards just aren't in the list unless you search for them directly

so I had to do this backwards

[frank zealot]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/awekeys/awekeys-air
Dude, guilty

[edgy laurel]

9070 just wasn't there using the list from the 9060xt page

[frank zealot]

thems some skinny metal keycaps

[shell void]

strange, it's on mine

[tepid mason]

My w print is fading from my keycaps

[edgy laurel]

what the hell

[pure garnet]

this might be the dumbest change ever

you want me to pay for the ability to see x out of 10? 💀

[low sorrel]

I don't like low profile

[low sorrel]

atleast let us see x out of 10

[edgy laurel]

its a little more nuanced than that, I assume. there are people and man hours that decided on that x out of 10. (not saying i'm paying it.. i'm not)

[shell void]

amd gatekept FSR4 so that the 7900XT didnt make the 9070 and 9070XT pointless

that card was available for $650-700 for a while and it has more vram :p

[pure garnet]

i get hiding the per thing out of 10 but like

at least show the general category score, the new thing is useless

[tepid mason]

Wait there are some cheap 7900xt i never checked wtf

[shell void]

it's not worth buying because it doesnt have native fsr4 support

that was the point of my message

[tepid mason]

Eh the games i play dont really support fsr anyway i use lossless scaling

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/phasmophobia-pov-you-keyboard-spam-keyboard-imanphasmoaliencat-gif-6550639211029691548

[low sorrel]

probably has to be so thin because of the weight

[frank zealot]

wait, you mean other companies make keycaps?

You don't say

[low sorrel]

imagine a thicc metal keycaps but on a realyl lightweight switch

[tepid mason]

Why did the NVIDIA cards get so expensive because of the vram shortage but AMD is like the same price

[low sorrel]

i mean it's kinda expensive no

[low sorrel]

because no one wants amd cards

amd cards have risen just not as much tho

[frank zealot]

AMDs cards have gone up

[shell void]

pricing depends on region, but the 50 series uses a newer generation of vram than the radeon 9000 series so it was even more harshly impacted by the shortage

in america the 5060Ti and 9060XT are the same price so the 5060Ti is a nobrainer choice

[tepid mason]

America got zhe best prices

[shell void]

we love saving 175W with zero performance loss

[low sorrel]

did you just turn off rt

[analog plover]

Easy to find online, not in the wild

[shell void]

naw it's the same graphics settings, resolution, and fps limit in both

-175W with zero loss to performance or visuals via voltage limiting

[fringe vigil]

yo luminati

[vestal granite]

i was gonna say the right looks sharper but i think its just discord compression on the image preview cause i opened both of em up and did like a <- -> and saw no difference

or maybe my left eyeball is worse than my right eyeball

[gentle loom]

ryzen 5 5600x cinebench r23 benchmark results (10 min multi core Points score: 10062)

[edgy laurel]

typically you turn off the 10-minute test and just run it once

[gentle loom]

eh

[shell void]

theyre identical game settings and taken back to back

[arctic bronze]

it makes a big difference as the 10min one is for stability rather than trying to see what you score

[pure garnet]

10k sounds like throttling

[fringe vigil]

5600x I mean it’s alright like

[gentle loom]

oh right

[gentle loom]

I mean 5600x with a rx 9070xt lol

I’m upgrading to a ryzen 5 5800x when I can

[edgy laurel]

stock just under 11k

[pure garnet]

what happened to the am5 system

[gentle loom]

I scored 12k points before undervolting cpu

[gentle loom]

it’s micro atx and I just build this brand new pc

[pure garnet]

so what

[gentle loom]

I can’t decide

[pure garnet]

return your am4 stuff and go buy am5 stuff since you have ddr5 on hand

[gentle loom]

I’d have to buy another am5 cpu a atx am5 board.

[pure garnet]

a 5800x makes 0 sense

[gentle loom]

I don’t really wanna tho

this pc runs fine for me.

[pure garnet]

you literally just mentioned buying a different cpu to upgrade it again

[gentle loom]

I am building another micro atx pc and selling it probably ..

yes a new cpu but I’d have to get a better motherboard and stuff

and it’s white ram in my black case it would look strange lol

[pure garnet]

buying a 5800x when you have access to am5 stuff is a terrible decision and i don’t think many people would disagree but in the end it’s your system

[gentle loom]

I just spent all on new stuff so.

I will keep the am5 pc but I’m unsure what to do atm.

I like my pc so I might just keep it

[arctic bronze]

better to sell it now and make some money before it tanks

[gentle loom]

maybe

[arctic bronze]

or use it as a server

[gentle loom]

it’s £350 for the ram though at the minute used

[fringe vigil]

bro is uk too

[pure garnet]

i don’t see why you’d keep am4 stuff you just bought when you’re given ddr5 for free

you could just return the am4 setup and get on am5 now

[gentle loom]

I spent £250 and gave him my rx 6750xt 2x OC Msi and my friend gave me a 750w bronze corsair psu 32gb ddr5 6000mhz ram and a motherboard unsure what one and a ryzen 5 7600 cpu and a rx 9070xt

[gentle loom]

if the ram breaks I am cooked tho

what if it all of a sudden breaks

[pure garnet]

then you rma it?

[gentle loom]

huh

[fringe vigil]

nice to see a fellow bri ish here too aria

[gentle loom]

because my pc is really fast for what it is and I don’t play the newest AAA games only older titles so.

i’m not british..

[fringe vigil]

so why you using £ sign

[pure garnet]

yes and already have a 7600 + ram in hand

[gentle loom]

I’m not british i’m just from uk.

[pure garnet]

so for the price of a board only you’re getting a much better system to keep long term

[fringe vigil]

breh

thats what i meant

[gentle loom]

I understand which is why i’m building an all white am5 pc soon.

[turbid locust]

British “people”

[pure garnet]

you got this jorj

[gentle loom]

I’ll see the performance differences and decide myself

[fringe vigil]

only here for vacation

[cosmic gazelle]

what the hell is this

[fringe vigil]

i live in miami

[vestal granite]

what part

[fringe vigil]

keys

[gentle loom]

holiday in the uk

[vestal granite]

the miami keys

[gentle loom]

😂😂😂😂😂

[fringe vigil]

yh

[edgy laurel]

jorj's knowledge of florida comes from GTA, apparently

[vestal granite]

im surprised he doesnt live near DJ Khaled over here

[fringe vigil]

im driving to south beach tomorrow

[vestal granite]

thats cool what road are you taking

[edgy laurel]

in the keys and driving all the way back up to south beach, interesting

[vestal granite]

its crazy to me that i moved like 1200 miles and im still the same distance away from US-1

it becomes US-9 randomly but its the same thing, im still on US-1, and im not that too far off of I-95

at least its not I-40 or I-75 i hate those ones

[topaz veldt]

ROFL

as a keys owner what the fuck is going on here

[cosmic gazelle]

damn new pokémon only being playable by switch 2 owners is kinda sad because that makes emulation a non option

and there’s no way in hell i’m buying a switch 2

[brisk jolt]

ewaste

[fringe vigil]

And why is that

[leaden dawn]

There's this amazing thing called a pc

It can play games, many more in fact than a Nintendo Switch.

[fringe vigil]

Bro not everyone can afford pcs

[leaden dawn]

Bro the switch costs more than a steamdeck

[cosmic gazelle]

$500 for a $200 mobile phone managed by the most anti consumer company on earth? I’ll pass

[pure garnet]

which notably can’t play pokemon waves

[leaden dawn]

After the last two Pokémon games.. Do you really want it at launch

[cosmic gazelle]

people trying to crack the new ecosystem say it will take a decade to properly emulate s2

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah lol, violet is a lot of fun if you ignore the graphics

the newest one is a pile of shit tho

[pure garnet]

i had fun with both violet and za on launch day just fine

[brisk jolt]

i rmb like 2 days after that pokemon game with more megas released I saw like 3 mfs on another dc emulating it 💀

[cosmic gazelle]

i thought za was awful the combat is so stupid

[pure garnet]

yeah switch 1 copy = instantly pirated

[leaden dawn]

👐

[pure garnet]

pc handhelds with screenshots of emulators are the biggest larpers

they never actually play the game after

[cosmic gazelle]

people sell modded overclocked switch lites for like 80 bucks now so i would consider one of those if it wasn’t for nintendo online being the ransomware that it is

[leaden dawn]

I mean.. AYN Thor is kinda.. Something I'd def love to play Henrikos textures for MM and OOT3D on

Tbf that's also a mobile handheld but still

[brisk jolt]

i think ayn thor is too small of a screen and a steam deck is too weak and still too small of a screen for me to justify

[pure garnet]

me happily picking up my copy of pokemon waves and the new fire emblem for my switch 2 purchased during launch month

https://tenor.com/view/dog-whimsical-propeller-hat-lollipop-happy-gif-941335489992772946

[cosmic gazelle]

well you can’t get a new steam deck anyways 😘

[leaden dawn]

I'm waiting for the successor tbh. I still dont have one

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-with-tongue-cat-smiling-gif-11949735780193730026

nah i decided to get a tablet for media consumption

[pure garnet]

yeah no the deck is too slow for anything really

[leaden dawn]

Its not that its too slow.. But ive waited this long

[pure garnet]

if you have a gigantic interest in 2000s and early 2010s games on the go i guess it’s cool

but anything modern just melts it

[brisk jolt]

i cant say no to the AMOLED screen and using it as my portable oled display

[leaden dawn]

I mean I kinda do that with my pixel tbf. Obviously Mali isnt handling everything rn but hoping it gets better over time. Warframe good

[shell void]

panther lake is the first time that a low wattage chip has seemed good enough to me

[pure garnet]

i’m expecting valve to go with something arm for the deck 2 eventually

but i also don’t really follow pc handhelds

[brisk jolt]

ive given up on a ptl handheld tbh

[merry stirrup]

put 2 fans in the jellyfin box cause my hdds were getting kinda ridiculously hot

[pure garnet]

why am i gonna play re9 on a 9 inch display when i have a nice 4k monitor at home

floppafin

[brisk jolt]

curses

[leaden dawn]

Floppin

[merry stirrup]

:nod

no more nitro i keep forgetting

but yeah floppafin

60c hdds was kinda worrying

[pure garnet]

i meant to cancel then it ate my gift card balance so i forgot again

[brisk jolt]

💀

[pure garnet]

discord nitro opal 🔥🔥🔥

[merry stirrup]

lmao quite epic

unfortunately im not doing anything on my server write intensive rn so idk if the fans are working but im going to assume yes

they r spinning

[pure garnet]

200% pwm 👍

[brisk jolt]

bro at this rate im gonna get a 4k monitor in like fkin 2027

[pure garnet]

what

just buy one

[brisk jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193840159358976/1429172046046433390/IMG_7512.gif

[pure garnet]

bro went broke

[brisk jolt]

listen man it keeps going outta stock

the stars arent aligning for me to make a proper upgrade

[edgy laurel]

Become a fellow C series owner

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel does your moms do sewing/quilting shit

[brisk jolt]

144 hz

[leaden dawn]

Yea does she do it shit?

[brisk jolt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/296167427652321302/1085962676531892375/20230316_215636.gif

[edgy laurel]

na, just gardening

[edgy laurel]

meh

better HDR, great coatings, no iffy monitor firmware

[topaz veldt]

Helping 5nail5 Sr with figuring out what my moms stuff is...

[edgy laurel]

that is uh... not some beginner stuff (i'm assumin)

[topaz veldt]

I dunno wtf to do with this

No - apparently my mom has like $50k worth of crazy machines

[edgy laurel]

sheesh, just a hobbyist?

[random flame]

Now why there be burning brains left out here? Lol.

[topaz veldt]

yeah i take after her in some ways

[brisk jolt]

a 42” would wreck my usage of using a second monitor not to mention space constraint- It is a great idea otherwise tho.

[edgy laurel]

lol, that is accurate 😆

[low sorrel]

@topaz veldt arc in like an hour?

[edgy laurel]

second monitor just needs to be vertical 😉

[topaz veldt]

probably not

[edgy laurel]

weird, the Q20's on Ebay (there are a lot) don't looklike that and are much cheaper

still expensive for a sewing machine lol

[brisk jolt]

it already is

[edgy laurel]

oh wait, none of these are Q20's, just lesser models

[topaz veldt]

yeah

[edgy laurel]

yeah ok

these are proper pro gear

[low sorrel]

Oh right it's dinner time over there

Damn timezones

[topaz veldt]

and then bed time for kids

[edgy laurel]

see if Creator Warehouse needs some machines lol

[pure garnet]

nah just buy a dinner table for a desk and run 3 horizontal 42" c6 tvs

[pure garnet]

yeah

that would be fire

[edgy laurel]

that guy needs a lowprofile mic arm

[fringe vigil]

its just perefection

[fervent chasm]

Needs an extra wide curved monitor instead

https://tenor.com/view/e-click-big-screen-wide-screen-gif-15481828

[fringe vigil]

nice big room and nice setup

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-burning-hell-pain-gif-17379863

[topaz veldt]

Yeah there's like 3 or 4 of them

Not all that model

Blah kind of tough to deal with of course, but also like wtf

[pure garnet]

@edgy laurel they're actually both drifting

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/gritty-flyers-mascot-philadelphia-flyers-funny-dance-gritty-nhl-gif-12584180

[edgy laurel]

damn.. yeah. Honestly doesn't seem like that kinda stuff is that easy to sell second hand from the little reading i was doing

[edgy laurel]

well now, stick kits come in pairs of two don't they? lol

[pure garnet]

nope! $20/module

[topaz veldt]

Yeah I think it'll have to be like through consignment - I am trying to track her friends down from their like "club"

This thing sucks

[brisk jolt]

explode

[topaz veldt]

I want to find a cheap but decent docking station thinger, like $100 or so

[edgy laurel]

anker / caldigit

[turbid locust]

try not to have a stroke in the overclocking channel challenge

[brisk jolt]

perhaps lets not bother with the dude running a 3090ti now

[merry stirrup]

oh my gahd

is my 1.5v 5ghz 3600 oc good????

its stable in the games i play but it crashes in cinebench

its ok tho cause cinebench famously has issues on overclocked cpus

[brisk jolt]

oh my god guys im using nvidia auto oc and not testing mine properly

https://tenor.com/view/howlers-den-gasp-shock-star-trek-gif-498338148729931701

[merry stirrup]

also 225 mem oc lol

[brisk jolt]

thats as good as nothing

+83 mhz!!!!

[merry stirrup]

my 3080 did 1600 lol

sillliness

[brisk jolt]

my guy’s shitty 3060ti does more mem OC than his 3090ti! What a shocker!

[turbid locust]

I think I had a 3070 that did +1800 or some dumb shit

[edgy laurel]

cyberpunk did not famously have an issue with factory overclocked cards (they're not even really overclocked.. as we know)

[merry stirrup]

yeah ampere was good man

the 3% factory vf increase aint doin nothin

[brisk jolt]

factory overclocked cards? he might be the one doing the factory overclock we better watch out

[edgy laurel]

my TUF 4090 doesn't like being touched at all, seemingly.

[turbid locust]

I think I kind of agree with the guy but at the same time how does “damn this specific game/program crashes for a lot of people” translate to “my oc must be unstable”

like I get it; programs and games can be unstable but like

that has nothing to do with your OC assuming you’re running non stupid shit

[brisk jolt]

slap em

[edgy laurel]

you were right, there was a fundamental misunderstanding going on but its two people hugely different ideas of what overclocking is

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-i-dont-know-about-that-ear-scratching-gif-26056892

[merry stirrup]

xmp is an overclock

B)

[brisk jolt]

talk to him in binary, he might understand that better

[edgy laurel]

his whole point was the second he has a problem he can't look past the "overclocked" marketing BS on the box and think its the culprit. couldn't see any of the logic beyond that

[merry stirrup]

yeah

the presence of an oc does not imply instability

[edgy laurel]

because, a general unfamiliarity with what overclocking is, how you do it right and how to test for instability

if all that is kinda just a mystery then yes, you're just going to blame everything on that black magic word

[merry stirrup]

yes

i understand getting schizophrenic about ram ocs causing mystery instability in the computer but gpus not really

(i also dont gpu oc past generic 50 series crap)

idk my computer genuinely hasnt had too many issues in daily operation for a while so

[edgy laurel]

we tried to do my card in here a few months back. seemingly the smallest nudge to core or mem almost immediately started artifacting in 3dmark

[merry stirrup]

i think i had one blue screen after i updated my bios and incorrectly set a safe daily profile

[merry stirrup]

probably drivers or somethin then, mem shouldnt artifact instantly/at all on g6x or whatever

[edgy laurel]

yeah maybe. I stopped caring like 30 minutes later lol

[merry stirrup]

it will artifact but generally like once youre right on the edge of what it can even validate clock wise

ecc on graphics mem pretty good nowadays

[random flame]

I'm a little surprised Linus covered the Playground of all consoles.

[merry stirrup]

heck i think im even on a cpu oc rn

yeah 5.6 on 4 cores
5.4 on 8
4.9 e

computer works

[edgy laurel]

we know where your true love lies

[merry stirrup]

i like puter

[edgy laurel]

those pesky memory sticks

[merry stirrup]

i have somethin on my ram hollon

[merry stirrup]

oh

idk if ECC caused issues in the past or if thats sauce for higher scores in 3dm

can try it on cause im pretty sure its supposed to be on by default, but idk

[merry stirrup]

i dont cause i was testing this cpu oc lol

i dont get ECC settings on 50 series i dont think

pretty sure its just always on

[edgy laurel]

it would only be in the old NVCP

[merry stirrup]

im in it

[edgy laurel]

huh

what would the benefit even be to enable that

[merry stirrup]

im not on the latest driver but i also dont lke updating my driver anymore so

[merry stirrup]

to enable ECC?

[edgy laurel]

yeah, for a gaming PC

[merry stirrup]

on vram it is probably faster to clock higher and have ECC trigger to a degree than just no ECC all the time

ECC is pretty self explanatory

in the case for ocers you can do silly things with it especially on the CPU side

cause you can rely on ECC actually working pretty good

saw seby (ram oc goat) run like ddr5 8600 on xeon w9 lol

[edgy laurel]

huh. come to think of it you just don't hear about people turning that on

i'm pretty sure my 3090 had that option too

[merry stirrup]

can FAFO and see if it lets you increase sliders, but also wouldnt doubt if it was just drivers during the time you tried to oc

no core oc prolly cant be fixed, just volt limited

[topaz veldt]

Kind of cool when it works

[edgy laurel]

is this just LM Studio but running on remote PC's or something

[topaz veldt]

yup

LM Link - SSL end to end to the remote GPU

[edgy laurel]

you'd think that be pretty reliable in a LAN

[topaz veldt]

its brokered over interweb

its made for people who are remote of their setup

it just took a while for that system to show up

[edgy laurel]

ah, ok then its reliant on someones service

[topaz veldt]

yeah for sure

[edgy laurel]

probably a way to do that completely locally

[topaz veldt]

there is

but not nearly as simple as this

[fringe vigil]

get crimson desert with it, how tempting

is it a steam code

[edgy laurel]

do it

[fringe vigil]

dont tempt me

[brisk jolt]

doit no balls

[topaz veldt]

I got it

[fringe vigil]

send me the code bro

[topaz veldt]

no

[fringe vigil]

dont be mean

[fringe vigil]

is it a steam key

[reef lance]

New Nvidia driver came out. Apparently it's having a lot of the same issues as the one they pulled. Worse Resident Evil performance, worse performance on the 5090, etc.

So I guess don't risk downloading it unless you want to have to revert

[fringe vigil]

well i already downloaded it

[reef lance]

I did download it on my 3090 TI just to see. I don't have the new Resident Evil game and I have older hardware so we'll see what happens.

[reef lance]

If you're not playing the new Resident Evil game and you don't experience any other issues might as well keep it installed.

I also installed it, but I'm on 3000 series.

[edgy laurel]

just follow the launch thread, like we do every time

[reef lance]

Here's the megathread about it. https://old.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1ritsbd/game_ready_driver_59571_faqdiscussion/

[oblique zealot]

one day i'll move on from my 3070

but not today

[reef lance]

Same with my EVGA 3090 TI. I want to wait at least until next gen to upgrade. Just not worth it so far to me. Besides, then I get to spend more time with my last new EVGA GPU in my main system (not selling it).

That double ray tracing performance does look good though

[edgy laurel]

unfortunately 3070 isn't viable for todays AAA titles at 4K without graphical compromises.

[brisk jolt]

you wont get much value back selling off a 3090ti tbh

[edgy laurel]

581.57 4 lyfe (or until I can be bothered to upgrade and see if RTX VSR/HDR are broken)

the only features I simply cannot live without

[brisk jolt]

Yeah I dont get how your RTX VSR/HDR got broken

Must be because you didnt get the 5090 TUF for $2k

[topaz veldt]

staehp

or stahp

[reef lance]

I will say that DLSS is a godsend. I'm on a 4K LG C3 currently and I've started The Last of Us Part 1. To play on Ultra they recommend a 4080. I'm playing on Ultra with DLSS Quality and getting ~70-80FPS.

[edgy laurel]

I dunno. DDUed between each driver. Even stepped back mulitple drivers with DDU between each. Wasn't until I finally got back to where I started, 581.57, that everything just worked again

[edgy laurel]

I had to sell my 3090 when I went to my C2 so good on ya

but DLSS wasn't what it is today back then

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/fsr-amd-fsr2-radeon-upscaling-gif-14361789650951144310

[edgy laurel]

[reef lance]

To be fair I got it at a good price originally. I got it at $1100 brand new from a guy who bought it and decided he and his son was going to wait for the 4090 to come out. He opened the box to look at it but never even used the card. Still had just under 3 years of warranty on it and everything.

But either way not selling it

Last of the EVGA

[brisk jolt]

You missed out on the same path as Mac 😭

I too wish I couldve gotten a 5090 TUF for $2k

[oblique zealot]

i'm a 1440p 144hz boy myself

which it also struggles with

[edgy laurel]

sounds like you need a 5070 deal

[brisk jolt]

1440p 360hz is not cutting it for me anymore

Might want to start using DSR 4k scaling to compensate

[edgy laurel]

lol, need it to stretch that poor cards legs

[reef lance]

Yeah when I set up a desk I have a 3440x1440p OLED waiting for me. So less pixels than 4K but more than 16:9 regular 1440p. It's 240hz, but whether I always run it at that, we'll see. I'm a big proponent of 1440p. I feel like it's the perfect compromise between better looking than 1080p but not as demanding as 4K. Then again I'm also someone who says I'd rather run a 1080p OLED than a 4K IPS since getting this LG C3.

[edgy laurel]

part of the C series owners group. see, @brisk jolt time to join

[brisk jolt]

How many inches is the C series, 42”?

Im going to struggle with space tbh

[edgy laurel]

the smallest is 42

[brisk jolt]

The length I can afford for a table is… 160cm.. account for a secondary vertical monitor and other peripherals- Im gonna be struggling

[brisk jolt]

As much as I’d like to get a C series- I dont think I could till I actually get my own house

I’d also just slap it in the living room

[edgy laurel]

I suppose the benefit is higher refresh going with a 32" "monitor"

but man, you really can't argue the value you get with C series

my "old" C2 still looks flipping nuts compared to every other display I use day to day

[reef lance]

Yeah I absolutely love this C3. I only bought it because my old Samsung smart TV died on me one day. I woke up and it just decided it was done living. When I was looking at my local BestBuy (I needed a TV that day) they had a decent deal on the LG C3 since it was sometime before the next gen were going to come out. Absolutely fantastic TV. This converted me on OLED. I do take the necessary precautions against burn in (hiding taskbar, use the all black screen saver on Windows that comes on after 1-2min, pixel shifting, etc. etc. etc.), but I see what people mean about OLED now. It's beautiful. Maybe one day we will actually get proper Micro-LED in consumer displays. Hopefully we actually get that in the next decade.

[brisk jolt]

I really want to max my refresh rate possibility, and also need to account for the fact im using VESA table mounts as well as the length of the desk Im getting would be 160cm.

[edgy laurel]

yeah I woke up one Sunday and decided I wanted a new monitor. C2 was at its cheapest point since it was right before C3 launched

[turbid locust]

I was peer pressured

[edgy laurel]

for the record these TV's are vesa mountable too

needs a cheap adapter plate but otherwise works fine with "monitor" arms assuming they can hold the weight which isn't much

[edgy laurel]

we were looking at setups with these today. I was reminded that you fucked up not goign 48"

[brisk jolt]

Im gonna be replacing the table first then exploring monitor options later on in like September

Also I am NOT fitting a 48” TV in my small room

[edgy laurel]

Mac has a massive desk and dual 27" monitors next to it. 27"'s line up perfectly with a 48" main display

[reef lance]

Are you using it as a monitor at a desk? I've heard of some people doing that instead of getting a regular OLED monitor. This one is a 55" and is my main TV in my room. I play on a couch until I can get rid of it and set up a desk (then I'm hooking my PC up to that OLED monitor and just using this TV as a TV. Might build a small form factor PC for the TV sometime. But we'll see, that's a future thing.)

[brisk jolt]

the max desk length I could fit is 180cm and that isnt a comfortable fit- Im going for a 160cm one. 42” is about 100cm, include my vertical monitor and I’d almost have no real space left for other stuff

[edgy laurel]

Yes, quite a few regulars in this channel are using them on our desk. I've been doing it since early 2023 full time as my primary display.

[edgy laurel]

boo

[brisk jolt]

listen man im bottlenecked not on purpose- I believe 32” is my best option for story gaming and racing

[reef lance]

One question. Do you have the issue that when your PC goes to sleep or the display turns off or whatever when GSync disconnects? I have to use that CRU "Restart-Only.exe" fix occasionally when GSync disconnects after whatever causes it. I know of LG TV Companion but I haven't gotten around to trying that since you have to mess with network settings.

Other than that the only other issue I have is occasionally waking up from sleep it doesn't send the signal to the display

[edgy laurel]

No, never. I have display sleep disabled in WIndows but I use normal system sleep every day. Never had an issue.

[reef lance]

I think I have the display sleep disabled as of recently. Yeah I don't know exactly what causes this, but it is a known issue, unfortunately. CRU fixes it really quickly, annoying but more of a minor inconvenience. I've heard supposedly the fix for it not sending the signal to the display when waking the PC up from sleep is making sure that your TV is on and set to the HDMI signal before waking up the PC. I haven't thoroughly tested it but I've been trying to do that. But yeah. LG TV Companion on Github is supposed to fix a lot of issues, eventually I may try it. But honestly by the time I get around to it I'll probably finally set up a desk and use the OLED monitor as my main display. But glad you don't have the issue. These LG C TVs really are great, despite any hiccups I may have had.

[edgy laurel]

Thats interesting. Oddities with C3 maybe? I'm on a C2 but most everyone else is C4 or C5

[fervent chasm]

yummy, god I hate javascript

8,737 lines, 351,358 characters across 39 files

never wouldve been able to solo dev that without copilot

[vestal granite]

make sure you guys have low expectations for crimson desert, its made by the company who makes black desert which is basically just microtransaction simulator

i dont believe that they know how gameplay loops work without gambling

they also dont know how to integrate FSR into their engine properly, it adds a glowing aura around everything in black desert and judging by the gameplay footage teasers its probably the same or very similar engine

[edgy laurel]

i have my doubts he had any intention of playing that

rather, just messing with jorj lol

[topaz veldt]

Even better I have no expectations lol I don't know anything about this

[vestal granite]

they have basically taken their open world mmorpg and made an open world singleplayer rpg with it, my guess is itll be a game for benchmarking that nobody actually plays

[brisk jolt]

starfield 2.0?

[vestal granite]

i would assume even fewer players than starfield tbh

its like starfield if starfield wasnt hyped at all

and at least bethesda knows how to make a singleplayer game

[frank zealot]

What's this? I have some computers at work that never sleep, but won't always wake up the screens

[reef lance]

Are they LG TVs?

[frank zealot]

Just mostly crappy 60hz office screens

[hoary hatch]

Time to subscribe to rtings

[reef lance]

Ah well the CRU thing I was talking about it for reconnecting GSync. It does other things too, but I have only used it for getting GSync to reconnect. You download it, rename one of the files to "Restart-Only.exe", then you press that when GSync disconnects and it very quickly reconnects your monitor/TV.

https://old.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/130eka5/instant_solution_stepbystep_guide_to/

[edgy laurel]

we were specifically talking about LG OLED's

[reef lance]

(Custom Resolution Utility) I guess it's normally used for custom resolutions/refresh rates

[reef lance]

But the other thing I was talking about is LG TV Companion, that was for fixing the monitor not connecting properly from sleep, again I haven't tried it but I've heard it works and does a bunch of cool stuff. But that's only for LG TVs and to set it up you need network settings.

[reef lance]

The only other thing I know is some people say that if you turn on the monitor/TV first and then wake up the PC that can get it to actually detect the signal, but I haven't extensively tested this.

[pure garnet]

@edgy laurel i found tmr replacements for my controller but it's $100 for both

[edgy laurel]

this keeps getting worse

[pure garnet]

yeah

[reef lance]

So I actually just tried the LG TV companion (didn't mess with network settings, I think it already has a static DHCP and if it doesn't I'll configure that later if it messes up). It works great! Now my TV wakes up with my PC. There's a test mode. It turned off my TV (PC was still on), pressed enter on my keyboard, boom, TV turned on straight to my PC. Good shit. (Really easy to setup too)

[pure garnet]

it's either $40 for fail again modules, $100 for tmr modules, or shop around for new controller when it gets unusable

[edgy laurel]

Nice. Yeah back when I got this, I played with the ColorControl app for automating the TV turning on with the PC but that quicky got annoying. Now the remote just sits next to my keyboard and I hit both the power button any me Esc key one after the other

its never seemed to make a difference in which order, or if I delay one or the other

[reef lance]

Yeah I'm happy you don't have any issues, hope it stays that way. Who knows what's the issue. That's one of the few unfortunate drawbacks of PCs, any tiny little thing can cause a problem for some people but not others. Yeah I also have a remote next to my PC. We'll have to see if this stops my TV from not recognizing the HDMI signal when waking up PC from sleep mode. It's not like it happened every time, but enough that it was annoying. Especially because I would have to get up to restart the PC.

I just know other people have that issue

I'm more surprised that you don't get the GSync disconnect thing

VRR still works when that happens, it's just that GSync handshake messed up

The only reason I noticed was by using my remote and the GSync icon was missing, also it would change the picture mode it was set at. I have my thing on Warm 50 and whatnot for color accuracy

So I could see that the picture was different when GSync wasn't on

[edgy laurel]

huh. do you have all the normal PC use stuff on like HDMI Deep Color and 4:4:4 passthrough?

[reef lance]

I do have the HDMI Deep Color on, but I haven't enabled 4:4:4 passthrough. I also changed the icon so the TV knows it's using a PC (apparently that has an effect on things too). I just wasn't sure if 4:4:4 passthrough was worth it or not. I've heard good and possible bad things.

(Also using game optimizer and whatnot)

I have things pretty well configured from what I can tell. RTings guide and whatnot, and just looking everything up.

[low sorrel]

speaking of bugs i've had a weird bug where around 50% of the time my pc doesn't shut down the first time and I don't know why

it just goes back to the lock screen

[edgy laurel]

Never once heard a bad thing. Kinda necessary to actually set it up correctly so you're getting proper color and text clarity. This is a standard feature of true PC monitors but must be enabled for PC use on TV's

[low sorrel]

been happening for as long as i can remember

[reef lance]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/1axdrut/lg_c3_444_passthrough_on_makes_horrible_motion/

https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/1gisg50/the_444_passthrough_debate_for_lg_oleds/

Yeah I don't know I've read a few things, I just tried turning it on

We'll see how it goes

I do use HGIG for HDR

[reef lance]

Try turning off fast startup

[edgy laurel]

Yeah thats one guy, and the other guy is being corrected in the comments. This isn't something I've ever seen debated, its just standard practice for proper PC setup.

[low sorrel]

already off

[edgy laurel]

(14k hours over 3 years experience here)

[reef lance]

Okay well I will try it. I just turned it on. Text might look a bit different? I will definitely try it. I just wasn't sure if I really should or not since even RTings said it was available but didn't specifically say to turn it on, just kind of mentioned it. I am rather new to this. I was using a TV before, but it was the Samsung smart TV from like 2016 and was VERY sparse on the settings. So I more or less just dealt with it

[hexed karma]

14k hours in 3 years is insanity

[edgy laurel]

if you say so

[reef lance]

@edgy laurel Just over 2 years

Can't believe I've had this for two years

Doesn't feel that long

Bought it Feb 5th 2024

How the fuck has it been two years? I thought it was a year goddamn time flies.

[edgy laurel]

Yeah I got mine Jan 2023

ive been avoiding WebOS 25

too many C2 specific horror stories

[reef lance]

Yeah I just updated without looking into it or anything. Too be fair I don't use too many of the actual smart settings. I just make sure I have all the ads and shit turned off. LG TV channels are cool, but since my PC is hooked up to the TV and it's the TV in my room I just use my PC for everything. When I set up a monitor things will be a bit different. Then I might actually use some of those settings, especially since if I build a TV PC it won't be for awhile after that.

[reef lance]

That's unfortunate

I got 8 years out of my last TV. If I get at least 8 good years out of this one I will be happy. Would be happy with longer, though. I was thinking about upgrading my TV before my shitty Samsung smart TV died, but I never committed. In the end I only upgraded then because it did decide to shit out

Just woke up one morning and the screen wouldn't turn on. Think either the backlight died or the power supply.

[cosmic gazelle]

it survived finally

[warped mountain]

New iPad air with M4 and more ram than iPad pro.

Apple is morphing an iPhone into a "Chromebook" so they can stop making m1 Airs for schools.

[hoary hatch]

than which ipad pro

[cosmic gazelle]

never quite understood who these were for

[warped mountain]

And apple will become THE value leader in computing in 2026 to help boost their stagnant market share but undercutting the market.

[warped mountain]

Base pro has 8gb ram, m4 air has 12GB

[warped mountain]

I usually see it as people who want a ultra book, but a touch screen.

[warped mountain]

Think 12 inch MacBook consumer. That kind of one.

Apple has really been embracing this as well with their magic keyboard. If it wasn't for commission on app sales I 100% believe that iPad would run Mac OS at this point.

Unfortunately as soon as M6 comes out with a touch screen it's going to be the other way around and it's going to be super annoying.

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah i also am biased against touch screen laptops because I cannot think of a situation where I would want one if I wasn’t an artist

[warped mountain]

They just use it as a tablet that happens to have a keyboard.

[warped mountain]

When they first started to make convertible laptops if they would have bothered to make them properly they would have revolutionized everything. But they just didn't get it quite right.

Everybody I know that has an iPad with a keyboard the keyboard is the case/ stand and they just flip it over the keyboard never activates on accident, etc.

This is what they issue in lieu of laptops now days

I think they have 10,000 of these, and only 120 laptops for issue now.

Shockingly the iPads have been found to be more durable 🤔

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah, when I customized my laptop from HP I specifically chose a non touchscreen. I don't really like glossy panels that aren't apple

windows laptops with glossy panels feel SO cheap 90% of the time

[hoary hatch]

Bros never heard of our Lord and Savior, the Apple M5 iPad Pro starting with 12GB RAM and 256GB SSD

[cosmic gazelle]

9 cores is so weird

[warped mountain]

Wym? Apples displays aren't even that good on their computers, unless you are paying and extra $1k to get the good ones. I.e. MacBook air 🤮

[warped mountain]

Yes, but the air is cheaper than the base pro, and has more ram than it was his point.

[warped mountain]

U need to buy good laptops lol

[warped mountain]

Because core 10 was bad so they disable it. Same thing they do with M4 Pro and m4 max.

[warped mountain]

Remember apple used to have this a year ago ...

[brisk jolt]

i was thinking of the ipad pro m5 but it was 2x the price of the astra

[green marsh]

It was a ewaste pc too, nothing of value would have been lost. 🤷‍♂️ anyway, goes back to "display unit of dead HW"

[merry stirrup]

just saying, its improper to even try to do that, doesnt matter the value of the components, just general advice lol

[green marsh]

in normal working situation it would stop the post and blame you for being idiot on screen. But sure, good to know for future

[merry stirrup]

yes, in a normal working situation it would, clear sign is it shorting the PSU with it properly plugged in though.

[pure garnet]

you'd love my matte touchscreen thinkpad then

[brisk jolt]

i went to a ice cream shop that is OOS of every ice cream are we deadass

[low sorrel]

@topaz veldt im richhhh

[livid flame]

KFC in the UK is often out of chicken

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/桐生戦兎-仮面ライダービルド-kamen-rider-build-kiryu-sento-sento-kiryu-gif-11157174352445916018

[shell void]

some people are seeing their gpu voltage get limited to 0.99 on the latest driver so i’d consider it still a no-go

studio 591.74 is still king aside from resident evil requiem fps

[brisk jolt]

nice that i avoided it (I honestly just forgot to update)

[topaz veldt]

Then... What do they have

[edgy laurel]

these all in one double and triple fan thingies are neat

made by jonsbo https://www.jonsbo.com/en/product/ComputerCaseFan.html

[shell void]

i wonder when lian li will start making cases that have power prongs to connect to triple unifan packs without any cables

and have the wireless controller integrated too

[civic reef]

What should I use to keep a PC case safe in transit if I don't have packing foam

Going to try and get my PC during the downtime between bombings

Glass panel is ofc off

[shell void]

@steel stream supposedly an 18A wafer

[edgy laurel]

last we saw of akn was friday

though I think he did say he went home for the weekend

[shell void]

this man and his random disappearing incidents

these are kinda cool

[livid flame]

Chips and salad. It’s rough when it happens.

[topaz veldt]

the prob is they are never decent fans 🙁

[edgy laurel]

probably decent enough to live their lives at a static low RPM

if you're after the look

[edgy laurel]

you're having to check videocardz yourself. this is what happens when akn is missing

[shell void]

sad days

oh yeah it’s mac day https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/03/apple-introduces-macbook-pro-with-all-new-m5-pro-and-m5-max/

there’s a big gpu performance upgrade as expected because we saw it in the M5 vs M4 comparisons

[edgy laurel]

thats considerable

[topaz veldt]

Damnit now I need to sell all my Mac shit

[shell void]

they seem to be renaming their cores to not use the efficiency name for whatever reason

they’re saying “super cores” and “performance cores” now

instead of performance and efficiency

super cores being the actual performance cores

[shell void]

i think it’s worth keeping your M4 MBP and waiting for the M6 to get the redesigned chassis and oled screen

unless you want to buy and sell every year

[topaz veldt]

Yeah - I do like the MBP M4 for its power usage

OLED would be amazing

I hate that they do this

I know its relevant because a lot of people hold their M1 and M2s for eons

Comparing an M5 Pro to an M1 Pro is hard to relate to

[shell void]

yeah i’m that guy who still has the m1 pro

[topaz veldt]

Yeah I get it

[shell void]

because the m5 pro still uses the exact same chassis and screen XD

well it’s quantum ips instead of ksf/nano ips but whatever

extremely similar perceptibly

[topaz veldt]

Yeah

Its disappointing it doesn't do HDR

[shell void]

it does do hdr wym

[topaz veldt]

Not on the built in display

[shell void]

14” and 16” models are mini led, they do hdr

[topaz veldt]

where

Is that the "XDR"?

OK maybe I am confusing the fact that when I have an external monitor cabled in I see the "HDR" toggle

[shell void]

yeah go open a hdr youtube video

the built in display absolutely does hdr

oled would be better, but you won’t find a better mini led implementation than the macbook pro

[topaz veldt]

OK yeah you're right - I was just looking at the toggle missing

New topic - AI sucks

it lied lol

[shell void]

don’t worry bro just give AI companies $100B more in tax dollars and it’ll be able to analyze an image

[topaz veldt]

Now its trying to cover its ass

LOL - so it goes on to say why it lied, but then its like "You'll see it says 1.279V". YES. I do. But you said it was 1.114V lol

I love fucking with this shit

[edgy laurel]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/03/fcc-lets-charter-buy-cox-says-no-reason-to-worry-about-higher-internet-prices/

[brisk jolt]

This is like my first time using a tablet, android one at that- OLED screen looks great

[ebon elbow]

I think HDR Automatically turns on when it senses HDR content

[shell void]

how about you finish upgrading your whole network to high split so that most people aren’t stuck with 40mbps upload and poor uptime for $120/mo?

god i hate spectrum

[topaz veldt]

Nah its the XDR profile that is Apples way of saying "It does HDR also"

[frank zealot]

This is a weird lookin' radiator:

[ebon elbow]

Of course Apple would call it Extreme Dynamic Range

[edgy laurel]

I've not had the pleasure of using Spectrum or Cox

[shell void]

chonk

[frank zealot]

also end G1/4s? That's just weird

[shell void]

Studio Display XDR
27” 5120x2880p 120Hz
2304 dimming zones, 1000nits fullscreen and 2000nits peak
$3,300

yeesh i was hoping it would be like $2K

or even less preferably

[edgy laurel]

Damn

if thats the cost of the 27"..

[shell void]

no new 32” it seems

they relaunched another 27” 60Hz no-hdr studio display at the same $1600

[edgy laurel]

If these are a thing, expect college campuses to be littered with them

[manic sigil]

Why this looks like paper

[cosmic gazelle]

hey pal at least you can SEE your sa voltage… I only have an offset 😭

[shell void]

@topaz veldt it’s got 140W thunderbolt 5 for your macs bro you need one

[cosmic gazelle]

the company that release a $1000 monitor stand btw

[shell void]

also the company that sells a $500 mac mini that brutally mogs any new pc at the same price

and a base iphone 17 that is a great value

[manic sigil]

I mean, it's a 1k phone

[shell void]

not to glaze apple but they do have a few good value products

[edgy laurel]

$600 iPhone 17e still appears to be 60hz. its hard to take that seriously after getting some hand time with an S25 FE recently

[shell void]

it’s $800 and you get flagship performance today along with 7 years of software feature updates

potentially a decade of security updates

[hoary hatch]

Eek

[manic sigil]

Post tax and tariff,it 1k

[hoary hatch]

I forgot to make coffee

[hoary hatch]

L country

[shell void]

yeah i don’t understand the appeal in the E

it’s a significant downgrade from an $800 base 17

[manic sigil]

That's most of the world

[hoary hatch]

Here the base 17 is $799 out the door

[shell void]

it’ll end up being a company and law enforcement fleet phone after they stockpile dead stock in warehouses

sold for cost

[hoary hatch]

My company will be buying 17e and S25FE in droves

Oops didn't mean to leave ping on

The iPhone is theoretically much cheaper for the company too which is wild

[brisk jolt]

its ewaste

[edgy laurel]

I haven't used 17e but I just got up and got our base 17 and S25FE. The FE feels like a proper flagship device

[shell void]

it’s a good fleet phone but consumers should just pay the extra $200

or get a 15 pro or 16 pro in a carrier deal

[edgy laurel]

entirely down to the larger size and fluid feeling display

[hoary hatch]

The Samsung FE is very well made now
Which I would expect as it creeps up in price compared to the S20/21 FE

[shell void]

now i wait for Kuycon to make a 27” 5K 120Hz studio display clone for $1000

with a real OSD and PC support

maybe even 5K 165Hz if they use the same display scalar as the 2026 gaming monitors

[manic sigil]

Still on USBC or there will be display port or hdmi?

[shell void]

the new studio display XDR is thunderbolt/usb only

Kuycon makes monitors that look like Apple’s, but with real PC I/O

[manic sigil]

There will be limition outside of apple ecosystem

[edgy laurel]

I still don't know where TB5's asymetrical 120Gb/s mode would be used

I assumed that was part of the spec at Apples request for a future display

5120x2880@120hz doesn't need it

[brisk jolt]

my poor PC cant even properly hit 100 fps on marvel rivals

[shell void]

i haven’t seen any practical application either

[hoary hatch]

Multiple pro display xdr gen 2 (hypothetical)

[shell void]

maybe to transfer files between a macbook pro m5 and external drive(s)

now that they have gen 5 nvmes

[edgy laurel]

Daisy chain displays? not sure if their monitors even support that

[edgy laurel]

ouch

DSR for 5K?

[brisk jolt]

yeah was pranking a friend

[turbid locust]

tbf that games like weirdly heavy

[shell void]

i’ve been trying to use CRU to remove the 4096x2160p resolution from my LG C4’s EDID so that DLDSR works, but i think they patched the ability to do it

[turbid locust]

ik he’s being funny but that game is weirdly heavy

[shell void]

so DLDSR always uses the 17:9 res and that stretches your image when using DLDSR

it’s like 5400x2880p or whatever instead of 5120

[edgy laurel]

really? well thats annoying. I still haven't bothered trying DLDSR and its been around for a while

[shell void]

i think you can still do it on C2 42

to get actual 5K and 6K 16:9 instead of 17:9 stretched

it’s a bit annoying because i’d like to play with 5K or 6K for better antialiasing

[turbid locust]

I just need 5K 240 on a giant monitor please

[edgy laurel]

I don't understand why 4096x2160 is even an option on consumer 4K displays

[turbid locust]

Super annoying when games default to it

[edgy laurel]

yes, and that happens more often than it should

[turbid locust]

I thought of looking into a way to nuke that resolution from my windows install but idk

Sounds like a way to break shit lol

[edgy laurel]

probably would need to do what michael was suggesting and just stop having the display advertise it

[turbid locust]

Yeah

[livid flame]

360hz for 98 fps

[livid flame]

It’s easy to do

[shell void]

i believe it’s because LG OLED TVs are used as client reference displays in movie studios

and the reference footage is 17:19

it’s really stupid that i can’t just delete it to get dldsr working though

[edgy laurel]

So you're saying if you're set to the proper native res, it still won't let you enable it?

[shell void]

you can enable DLDSR, but it ignores your set native resolution

it uses the 4096x2160p 17:19 as the baseline

which gives you 5400x2880p or whatever in game which stretches the aspect ratio

[turbid locust]

I mean really what’s the point of running higher than native

[edgy laurel]

Ok thats wild. super dumb

[turbid locust]

I get like supersampling or whatever but

[edgy laurel]

super sampling, yeah

[turbid locust]

Yeah any form of supersampling I’ve ever tried is way too much performance hit for what is a super marginal quality difference

[edgy laurel]

the beauty of DLDSR

[turbid locust]

true I guess lol

Does the game have to natively support DLSS for it to work

[edgy laurel]

I've not played with it personally but I would imagine not, given its done at the driver level.

[shell void]

you can use the DLDSR resolution in any game that would ordinarily support a higher resolution

[turbid locust]

I see

[shell void]

but you can also combine it with DLSS in newer games to get better antialiasing for minimal performance cost

[edgy laurel]

thats where my mind goes all mush trying to work that out

[turbid locust]

8K Valorant

[edgy laurel]

DLDSR + DLSS

[shell void]

it’s similar to how 1440p DLAA and 2160p DLSS Quality perform similarly, but 2160p DLSS Q looks better because it’s super sampling to a higher resolution

[edgy laurel]

Ha, when you explain it like that it actually makes more sense

[turbid locust]

I need 8K 240hz C series

8K 42” would be some crazy PPI

[shell void]

that would be so epic

[brisk jolt]

this is one nice display to have

[shell void]

is it the red magic?

[edgy laurel]

165hz

[brisk jolt]

yeah its the rm astra

[shell void]

165Hz for smooth scrolling while reading books

[brisk jolt]

optimal

[turbid locust]

If LG released a 8K 42” OLED that was at least 144hz I’d probably buy it no hesi

[brisk jolt]

this is so much greater over reading on my phone

[turbid locust]

Well, if it wasn’t $70,000

[edgy laurel]

165hz at that brightness level, curious how long that battery would last

[shell void]

i assume it’s ltpo and vrr

so it would be 1Hz while he’s reading a page

[brisk jolt]

vrr definitely

[gentle loom]

uh guys why does my pc randomly black screen and restart?

[edgy laurel]

no idea, needs troubleshooting

[gentle loom]

how do I check what’s going on..

[edgy laurel]

#1027757333117415424

[brisk jolt]

the display gets slightly warm but its not that bad

[hoary hatch]

Oh there is a new pro display xdr

Oh fuck it's just studio display xdr

[gentle loom]

how do I increase my ram voltage by 0.01?

[brisk jolt]

you use the keyboard

[gentle loom]

no which setting

[hoary hatch]

Set them all to 2

[gentle loom]

why would I overvolt it..

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

[gentle loom]

is the ram voltage “vpp_mem”

[brisk jolt]

heres a hint: D

[hoary hatch]

OH MOTHER FUCKER

M5 15" MBA starts at 16/512 for $1300

Y'all is this my next laptop

[devout ridge]

OOH

[brisk jolt]

“dear TC2 the pc is now not booting”

[hoary hatch]

IT HAS 4 SHADES OF SILVER

[devout ridge]

fuck that might be my next laptop

[hoary hatch]

I mean 3 shades of silver

And one shade of very dark uhhhh silver

Okay the midnight is actually dark

But that sky blue is only blue in Timmy cooks dreams

[devout ridge]

i love midnight

[hoary hatch]

This is actually pretty aggressive from apple ngl

[devout ridge]

with these ram prices, apple ram pricing is actually kinda reasonable

[hoary hatch]

A brilliant time to flex your margins and purchasing volume against the PC competition

[devout ridge]

fuck you AI, making me defend apple pricing

[hoary hatch]

Apple is charging $3300 for 2304 mini LED zones

Sad

I was really hoping Samsungs 5K QD-OLED was destined for an apple monitor

But I think apple has a real brightness concern

[shell void]

yeah their new standard is 1000nits fullscreen

the latest qd oled monitor panel can only do 300

and it has contrast problems in bright rooms

[hoary hatch]

Okay

You can run dual Studio display xdr (5k 120) over single thunderbolt 5

Does that even use the 120gbps mode

[hoary hatch]

In Apple's defense, M series MacBooks have generally been decent value

Although I think the M2 was the exception there. Not great pricing for the M2 airs

[shell void]

yeah that would be around 114Gbps

apple doesn’t use DSC, or at least historically hasn’t

so it probably uses the 120Gbps boost mode

[hoary hatch]

Makes sense

I would assume the XDR is 12bit as well

Oh

It's 10 bit

[shell void]

i don’t think there are any 12bit panels that aren’t tens of thousands of dollars

[hoary hatch]

True 10 bit or 8+frc

[hoary hatch]

Is 10bit + frc a thing
I may have seen some "12 bit" advertising that's actually 10+frc

[shell void]

i’m not sure

i don’t see why it couldn’t be a thing

12bit isn’t really used by anything public though

[hoary hatch]

Okay I'm pretty sure 10+2 is a thing which is what I've seen advertised as opposed to true 12 bit

[shell void]

just BT.2020 mastering monitors i imagine

[hoary hatch]

It's gonna be such a good week for podcasts

[shell void]

i want to see the studio display xdr IRL

i’m not near any apple stores though 🥀

[cosmic gazelle]

AHA

i CAN increase trefi and it was twtp the whole time

[hoary hatch]

Best buy?

Uhhh BB may not get SDXDR in stores though

[shell void]

i haven’t seen any apple monitors in bestbuy over the years

my nearest one barely has pc parts

[hoary hatch]

Mine has a mini apple store idk how else to call it

[shell void]

that’s sweet

i’ve seen iphones and ipads but not monitors

[pure garnet]

@edgy laurel i gave up and ordered an ultimate 2

[edgy laurel]

LOL. I mean thats great but it also means you're now stuck with a $200 malfunctioning controller

[topaz veldt]

this was 8600 M/Ts

Trying to figure out something

[pure garnet]

i looked at the diy tmr repair and it was extremely out of my skill level with soldering

[edgy laurel]

damn. well, which Ultimate 2 did you get, the BT or the wireless

cause the BT has Nintendo layout button faces as we were just reminded with @shell void

[pure garnet]

evernight because it came with a protective case, xbox layout so wireless?

https://a.co/d/0bYBwdDR

[edgy laurel]

ok nice

[brisk jolt]

shit kyoko is onto me

[edgy laurel]

probably not going to feel as premium as that DualSense

but it'll work correctly