tech-chat-2

[pure garnet]

10 minutes of karhu doesn’t really mean 2000 was stable either

[fringe vigil]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hi-chat-hello-chat-13

[steel stream]

hi jorj

[cosmic gazelle]

i know i’m retesting

i’m gonna let it run for an hour and a half or two hours while i’m at the gym

don’t worry bestie i’m not that dumb

[shell void]

12 hours absolute minimum for karhu, ideally 24+

ycruncher vt3 is a better test

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean that’s the plan but i’m not waiting 12 hours for every single minute timing change lol

this is just preliminary

[turbid locust]

people that do 45 mph in parking lots should parish

[cosmic gazelle]

parish

[steel stream]

bro i'm already late i have to speed

[analog plover]

When did you change the font of your name? I didn't you could do that lol, nitro feature?

[wraith steeple]

[edgy laurel]

Feels like a couple months ago at this point

I think it is a nitro feature

[analog plover]

I'm in here like once or twice a week and just now noticed

[topaz veldt]

@low sorrel https://x.com/i/status/2027168486573687291

Rooster (@TheRooster)

X · Feb 26, 2026, 11:46 PM

[livid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/burnt-peanut-the-burnt-peanut-mmhmm-mmhm-mmhm-gif-8170698848261710513

Top tier play that one

[shell void]

WE all so totally NEED external 5090s for our Panther Lake ultrabooks https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Graphics-WATERFORCE-Thunderbolt-GV-N5090IXEB-32GD/dp/B0FRV1FRBC

[wraith steeple]

[edgy laurel]

@low sorrel @steel stream it’s pretty in HDR at least

running at my cap without issue and VERY smooth with just DLAA + High preset and Reflex

[cosmic gazelle]

can thunderbolt even do a 5090 justice

[topaz veldt]

Is this just Arc Raiders in a different environment

[edgy laurel]

in that its a PvEvP extraction shooter, yes

FPS though

free server slam going on, might as well grab on steam

it looks and feels VERY good

[topaz veldt]

nice

I'll give it a look

[cosmic gazelle]

@pure garnet looks like 2000 is probably fine

[brisk jolt]

test 12hrs

[cosmic gazelle]

for the millionth time i’m setting a speed before i do timings

[turbid locust]

what game

[edgy laurel]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3065800/Marathon/

Steam

Marathon

Infil into the dark sci-fi world of Tau Ceti IV: A derelict colony rife with rival Runners, hostile UESC security forces, and unpredictable environments. As you scavenge its zones for valuables with a crew or alone, tense moments of exploration break into fast-paced PvP combat where gunplay is responsive, supplies are finite, and preparation i…

Price

$39.99

Release Date

Mar 5, 2026

[turbid locust]

word

[arctic bronze]

microsoft word

https://tenor.com/view/gintama-smug-anime-face-gif-24466661

[merry stirrup]

holy

[indigo walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-wait-what-wait-a-minute-confused-nevermind-gif-16327999

[edgy laurel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/exactly-nailed-it

[arctic bronze]

bros gonna stay single

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/sols-bug-jar-erimos-family-guy-gif-11444240302106547169

Putting a 1200cc Harley Davidson engine on a gokart is crazy lmao

[topaz veldt]

not as crazy as putting a 1300cc busa engine on one

[arctic bronze]

pretty sure they did that too

[topaz veldt]

with a turbski

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9MV8xmmsso

[arctic bronze]

yeah thats also insane lmao

[cosmic gazelle]

downshift this thing in my area code and i’m calling the cops

[topaz veldt]

my neighbors do not appreciate when I drive my one car... and they aren't even close to my house lol

[lethal topaz]

uhhh what the fuck???

why is crafty4 using 5.5 TiB

i am NOT running 2b2t

genuinely i dont think this dataset has existed long enough to write 5tb of data

[arctic bronze]

I wouldnt, that shit would be pure bliss

[arctic bronze]

lmao, I appreciate nice cars and bikes or whatever

especially custom stuff

[cosmic gazelle]

i got ddr3-2000 down to stock timings for 1600 which is satisfying

[uneven bane]

So I swapped to Nvidia at the wrong time. 595.59 is having issues. Is it possible to go to an older driver, or would it be easier to just swap to studio drivers until game ready get fixed?

[edgy laurel]

you can use whatever driver you want

lots of experienced enthusiasts in this channel, no one else is complaining

[shell void]

595.59 is known bad, nvidia launched it today and then pulled the update shortly after

[shell void]

run display driver uninstaller, and then install an older driver

studio 591.74 for example

[edgy laurel]

so people are complaining after all. yeah I mean, you install a bad driver just uninstall it and install the one you want

[topaz veldt]

My script grabbed it

[turbid locust]

Chat we might be being referred to a Psychiatrist

[topaz veldt]

Wot

[turbid locust]

Mac is trying to take better care of himself

[merry stirrup]

he just like tony soprano fr

[turbid locust]

smn like that

[topaz veldt]

Best wishes brother

[merry stirrup]

chat mac isnt gonna verbally abuse me

[pure garnet]

hope he does

[merry stirrup]

:(

[pure garnet]

yeah hope it goes well mac

[merry stirrup]

same bro good luck

[pure garnet]

how’d interview go floppa

[merry stirrup]

allegedly good

ill be getting another call tomorrow to see if they want to do an in person

[turbid locust]

it probs wont be for like a month and a half so

but like we ball maybe probably hopefully

[pure garnet]

hope so

i’ve crossing over a year wait so i’m just waiting till i move at this point

[cosmic gazelle]

it looks like I can’t get trcd below 11 at all

currently testing 10-11-10-25

given what i’ve seen so far i expect to plateau around 9-11-9-23 or something similar

[merry stirrup]

figure out what is too low rather than taking incremental steps after finding a baseline max freq/designated freq

then work up from what is too low so you know its already minimized

[cosmic gazelle]

i already figured out my frequency because 2000 is stable at 1t and 2133 isn’t at 2t which surprised me

so i’m just doing timings now

[merry stirrup]

yeah i gotchu

[cosmic gazelle]

im sleepy so im gonna let karhu continue to run so that if it doesn’t error, i have a baseline to return to if everything goes to shit

lol

so far i’ve gone from 1600mts 11-11-11-28 to 2000mts 10-11-10-25 which is fun

[merry stirrup]

what IC is it?

[cosmic gazelle]

you’re gonna be mad at me but it’s a mixed samsung and hynix kit i was using before so i didn’t really check because i figured mixed kit didn’t really matter

😭😭

[merry stirrup]

i mean it does but it doesnt

its fine since youre just learning but i would test them alone when youre done and then buy a matching stick of whatever is better

[cosmic gazelle]

they’re both dual rank which is apparently not great for oc on haswell

or in general, idk

[pure garnet]

2r is chopped speeds yeah

i don’t remember if on ddr5 it’s 6800 or some 7000 speed people topped out at

@merry stirrup i just got a crazy theory: what if my pcie riser has been causing the sleep issues with the tomahawk

i don’t think i’ve ever tested it in a normal gpu orientation

[cosmic gazelle]

i think on d3 getting single rank 8gb sticks is a little harder but i haven’t really looked

[pure garnet]

are you planning on using this system or just benching

[nimble pike]

We back to DDR3 overclocks now?

[cosmic gazelle]

i was already using it stock on an oem dell mobo and figured i could just buy a motherboard and use a psu i already had to learn how to ram oc

it’s just a media pc that is cheap enough that i don’t really care about degradation

i’m looking on ebay and i don’t know that single rank 8gb sticks even exist

[merry stirrup]

idk how that would happen though

[merry stirrup]

you should be using 4gb sr dimms lol

[cosmic gazelle]

eh i got these sticks for $17 total off some guy

[pure garnet]

edge of signal integrity is my guess, i might chuck it in my h5 and see

actually wait no that correlates because it ran fine in the h5

i had a 7800 daily tune

[merry stirrup]

oh god

take out your gpu riser for slightly better ram ocs

[pure garnet]

maybe i see if i can get a warranty replacement riser

nah i’ve been starting to have some oddities with the mlg too

[cosmic gazelle]

actually, he gave me a free single rank 4gb stick because he had no use for it.. maybe i can find 3 more lol

[merry stirrup]

two

not even, 1 lol

2 sticks total

[cosmic gazelle]

i need to actually use the system lol

[merry stirrup]

booo

[pure garnet]

just bench on sr 4gb and daily 2r 8gb

[cosmic gazelle]

oh yeah i could get 3 more of these for $15 lmao

[merry stirrup]

aight get me the TR setup i saw on fbm

[cosmic gazelle]

might try that down the line

[brisk jolt]

wheres the we

[merry stirrup]

i still only do d4 d5 basically

[cosmic gazelle]

$17 gets me 4x4 single rank so ill test that out if i get bored again

[pure garnet]

i’ve only done d5

[merry stirrup]

d4 is fun

buy bdie when the ram issues are over

although bdie is getting old

[pure garnet]

i don’t have the space for any more pcs

[merry stirrup]

whats one more motherboard box

[pure garnet]

buy one of my boards first

[merry stirrup]

how much $

[pure garnet]

idk

[merry stirrup]

fair price

[pure garnet]

i guess which board

[merry stirrup]

uhhh a ddr4 lga 1700

[pure garnet]

0 found

[merry stirrup]

uhhh a ddr5 lga 1700

ill take the power back

if you want to teardown the new nas thing

[pure garnet]

$900

[merry stirrup]

charging me ebay prices

uhh another d5 lga 1700

[pure garnet]

i think nas wise i’ll do 265k on z890 master

z790 tomahawk would be easier for me to ship because the asus box is gigantic

[merry stirrup]

fair

doess it have stock ilm

has it been diddled is a better question

[pure garnet]

never touched it

[merry stirrup]

boutta blow

works for me

[pure garnet]

i hadn’t used a contact frame up until i got the mpower

[merry stirrup]

ahhh ok

[pure garnet]

but i got my 12900ks mounted in there perfectly now so i don’t wanna touch it

unless a 14900k falls into my lap or something

[merry stirrup]

do you want to trade a diddled 13900KS for the 12900KS

[cosmic gazelle]

nuclear bomb vs coughing baby

[merry stirrup]

its a proposition

i dont want to give my gf an LM cpu

[cosmic gazelle]

just mail him a pipe bomb

[pure garnet]

uhhh honestly what if i just left it in the mpower

and sent that back then you send me the ks

and i’ll just use that in my z690-e at baby speeds

[merry stirrup]

that works cause i can for real test it lmfao

all i tested was that it got past the cpu and memory light in my sisters new board

i mean pretty confident it at least powers on then however

[pure garnet]

i gotta track down the accessories for the doohickey because i shared mpower parts so im not rushing to do this anyway

[merry stirrup]

let me test it first ish then we'll continue this

[pure garnet]

yeah

[merry stirrup]

seems legit tho

i know if it does work it at least still does 7000

so its an alderlake imc with rpl cores cause the cores are fine

[pure garnet]

if i get it it’s gonna be at 6000 xmp i think

[merry stirrup]

ok

[pure garnet]

maybe 6400 if i give my sister a die back

[cosmic gazelle]

since you guys got me thinking about it

[pure garnet]

the a die i have doesn’t interest me a ton because it needs hella volts for 8000cl34

[merry stirrup]

im gonna redo the fix i did on it and make it prettier and then conformal it a smidge better for protectoin

[cosmic gazelle]

when you replace a delidded cpu do you have to be super careful about ihs placement or is it kind of a non issue

[merry stirrup]

kinda non issue

i guess it matters but super careful? not really

[pure garnet]

i mean don’t install it sideways but

[merry stirrup]

vaguely where it goes

[pure garnet]

realistically if you line it up in the socket

[cosmic gazelle]

ok i’m thinking about getting one of those delidders because this thing runs hot as shit

during y cruncher especially

[pure garnet]

the ilm will have it in the right spot

[merry stirrup]

i dailied my 7700K for 3 years with the IHS plopped upsidown

no temp change upon fixing it

[pure garnet]

my grammy is rocking a 6700k i chopped the lid off of and stuck nt-h2 under it

[merry stirrup]

fair

[pure garnet]

1.65v daily 🔥🔥🔥

[cosmic gazelle]

do you have to be very specific about thermal paste quantity if you use paste or does it just spread like it does on top of da cooler

[merry stirrup]

should be good then so long as this chip passes torture tests

i will send you LM with it because im not an asshat

[pure garnet]

do i just buy a phanteks xt like my girl for $60 and ditch the riser

[merry stirrup]

the good good

thats pretty good

[pure garnet]

well first i’m gonna put the tomahawk back in my h5

and if that works then i’ll touch the daily

[merry stirrup]

but yeah that way i get a cpu for my wife that im not worried its going to explode because her cat jumped on the pc

[pure garnet]

not going back to the tomahawk but since some of the same issues may as well test

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[pure garnet]

earlier today it froze on shutdown

like idk why

[merry stirrup]

could just be recent windows issues

hasnt been particularly been good

[pure garnet]

it never acts up at load it’s always when transitioning power states

[merry stirrup]

always the issue on zen for me but idk

[pure garnet]

fclk garbage

[merry stirrup]

5700G doesnt c state

does any freq it should but not dynamic

[pure garnet]

x3d dominates catgirl mmo so i’m stuck though

[merry stirrup]

proper volts too

i literally can copy the requested vid for 4.4 on it and it will pass yc for days

[pure garnet]

i’m worse than michael bro, intel enjoyer with 2 x3d pcs

[merry stirrup]

lmao

[pure garnet]

i’ve also owned every generation of x3d 😭

[merry stirrup]

im the only real one

i have had one am5 cpu and i PROMPTLY sold it

[pure garnet]

i don’t remember exactly why i bought the 7800x3d

but if i just kept that and the b650e-f i would’ve been fine

[merry stirrup]

my KS was great

[pure garnet]

instead i spent a billion dollars to end up on a 9800x3d in the end

[merry stirrup]

i only bought the 265K cause i was bored at work

[merry stirrup]

deadass now i profit off the closet hw

[pure garnet]

i think that’s how i ended up on am5 originally

i got a deal on the motherboard relative to the time

[merry stirrup]

yeah 329 on an ocf who is saying no

309 actually 329 was the cpu

[pure garnet]

me next time

[merry stirrup]

yeah im buyiing an apex

nvl i will have a swag computer

maybe 3

[pure garnet]

my tier list directly follows the order of agesa update speed

asus > msi > gigabyte > asrock

[merry stirrup]

somehow accurate past that

[pure garnet]

gigabyte is still on 1.28 agesa

[merry stirrup]

guess i should check ocf update

3.23

[pure garnet]

asrock is on some boards

[merry stirrup]

for riser cards

[pure garnet]

like the ocf x870e has no update

[merry stirrup]

oh i hate asrock for it lol

[pure garnet]

but the taichi does

[merry stirrup]

they make some of the most competitive priced and capable boards

but then kill support

and the things that get support is low end garbage

[pure garnet]

the support annoys me but the lack of basic daily features upset me too

on every other board vendor i’ve owned i’ve been able to disable the blinking power led

[merry stirrup]

quite annoying

please asrock

[pure garnet]

the ocf is good at what it do, my cpu just no happy

[merry stirrup]

well it sucks at cpu oc

[pure garnet]

although my 9000 attempts broke 2 os installs so i’m temporarily giving up

[merry stirrup]

mem is totally fine i agree, it does good terms for you and its pretty dope

[pure garnet]

my bench pc still doesn’t have working search bc i haven’t reinstalled

i undid all my changes and tried to repair, but it’s just dead

[merry stirrup]

yeah fixing windows after its broken is a lost cause

[pure garnet]

honestly might just force 4.0 in my bios and hope that fixes all the issues i occasionally encounter

[turbid locust]

tbf you bought like the worst sku possible

[merry stirrup]

prolly 7900 but i get it

[topaz veldt]

yawn

[low sorrel]

Snail it's kinda early for you to be up no?

[woven adder]

🙁

[topaz veldt]

My son came into my bed at like 4:30AM, and then a colleague in Ireland called me with an issue

[civic reef]

That's not what the case itself includes

Simply what the manufacturer is showing with it

[edgy laurel]

https://youtu.be/p2fYTXZhwtc?si=1hje1GuV2li_Mav1

[shell void]

buy me one

it’s so over for the people who enjoy gaming on antiquated technology such as Ada Lovelace

[south shuttle]

wait few months until copycats show up 🤣

[brisk jolt]

interesting that 5070Ti beat the 4090 here

[shell void]

real

[shell void]

4090 is vintage bro

in seriousness though RE:R is an interesting game to benchmark

14900K = 285K = 5800X3D when all are running jedec ram

it scales an absurd amount with cache and ram

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/good-clapping-sarcastic-gif-14772054

[south shuttle]

why is the 4090 getting beat’d by a 5070 ti in this instance

also why is 4080 and 4090 so close to each other

[topaz veldt]

because its a relic

[shell void]

idk it could be anomalous or flawed testing

[brisk jolt]

but with a good tune intel should be reaching closer to a 6kc30 9600x if im guessing?

[shell void]

i have no idea

some games just scale like crazy with L3 cache and this appears to be one

[topaz veldt]

@shell void optimum is now undoubtedly considering the super strike switches in his thing, rendering the pre-order DOA

[brisk jolt]

im probably screwed

last XG32UCWMG rn

[shell void]

yeah it might end up like keyboards where non-HE/TMR boards are just obsolete and novel

it’ll take a few years for the chineseum brands to figure it out and bring prices down before that happens though

[brisk jolt]

I dont want these haptic switches I want TMR in em

[topaz veldt]

They are TMR

[brisk jolt]

Are they?

[shell void]

i’m curious how it feels though

[topaz veldt]

well - it gives haptic feedback, but the switch can sense how far it has traveled

and its capacitive, so that sounds like TMR

[brisk jolt]

it uses some haptic inductive trigger thing rather than TMR or HE

[shell void]

yeah reducing click latency by like 20ms by reducing pre travel is cool but if it feels lame then i’m not gonna want to daily drive it

[topaz veldt]

yeah not sure exactly what it is considered

its like a load cell

[brisk jolt]

Im more likely to just order a huan over another logitech mouse

[shell void]

if it feels like clicking on a macbook trackpad then that’s fine i guess

[brisk jolt]

Ill wait for WLmouse to make a move in like 1 business year

this monitor problem wouldnt be as prevalent if LG would just release their 32GX870-B here

[shell void]

32GX870A-B has the disgusting oily semi matte finish you don’t want it

32GX850A-B is glossy but it’s only 165Hz

[brisk jolt]

oh im not going for the A-B just the B

[shell void]

32GX870B-B is the tandem woled refresh coming later this year and afaik it’s matte

[brisk jolt]

The X870B is the same as the asus just different features afaik

yeah fuckass lg naming scheme

if i were to use my legal surname the shortform of my name would also amount to LG

[shell void]

the -B just means black but then they also put B behind that for 2026 models which is quite silly

[brisk jolt]

However fuck that surname

i see the x850a-b for the same price as the xg32ucwmg

[shell void]

brutal

lower refresh rate for the same price 🥀

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/xylibanned-trapped-in-jar-trapped-halp-gif-6991355193835834107

i need a miracle for the last unit to not be bought for another 3 days

[shell void]

if they’re still selling at this speed then surely it’ll be restocked and you’ll be able to get it next time

with your money put aside for it

[brisk jolt]

my last chance would be april which i dont mind b4 i’d just run out of free time to do a big move

if I dont get the opportunity to Ill just get a redmagic tablet and ask my friend to just get his own monitor

but he’s absolutely obsessed with this 360hz now

[shell void]

i have no idea how your singaporean resellers work or how frequently they restock things, but i’d imagine there’ll be at least one more restock between now and april

[brisk jolt]

2 months for it to come back

theres another selling for slightly more expensive but I’d rathr that be my last ditch

Im not exactly “urgent” for it but my guy is

[shell void]

just buy it now and go into temporary credit card debt

[brisk jolt]

Unless he wants to offer me higher to exactly compensate for it (Im selling him relatively cheap)

[brisk jolt]

nah i wont stoop that low nor am I too desperate for it

[shell void]

you’re not hungry enough

[brisk jolt]

I’d rather wait out for the LG to see what their upscaling for the monitor is

sometimes VSR doesnt feel adequate enough and can eat like 200w

[shell void]

32gx870b-b is going to be matte bro it’s over

i’m sure asus and gigabyte will have glossy versions of the same tandem panel though

[brisk jolt]

im getting the one that display guy is getting

its gloss iirc

[turbid locust]

[shell void]

i agree the power draw is pretty crazy on 5090 for VSR

[brisk jolt]

If I dont get the XG32UCWMG its one of 2 things this year

1: 32GX870 gloss comes out and i decide between that if the upscaling’s good, or just cop a XG32UCWMG if I can grab one in a suitable timeslot

2: 1 doesnt happen, and even better monitors get teased and have a CES 2027 release

[shell void]

undervolting can make a pretty huge difference to VSR power

i keep my gpu in its 0.87v max profile unless i need more because it drops youtube power draw a ton

[brisk jolt]

VSR with stock 5090 had it chomping up to 270w

now its maxing at 220w

[shell void]

32GX870B-B is not glossy bro

DG just wants a monitor using the same panel but glossy

i don’t think that’s a photo of a monitor

[hoary hatch]

<@&750150305383186585>

[balmy pumice]

Another day another hacked account

[hoary hatch]

I keep sending them money but I never get my crypto in return 😢

[shell void]

[hoary hatch]

I'm gonna victim blame here

They had to click or download something suspicious

[brisk jolt]

if theres no asus restock by april my monitor situation will be till Aug/Sept

[cosmic gazelle]

i have not had a single error after 1 minute

on any config

[fervent elm]

ram testing for true stability is gonna take hours

[cosmic gazelle]

you don’t say it’s almost like that says 9 hours

😭

[shell void]

😿

[fervent elm]

Blind, i am

[cosmic gazelle]

i was just saying that every single error i’ve had has occurred between 50 and 70 seconds

[fervent elm]

Ah

[pure garnet]

seeing the double digit speed always makes me giggle

[cosmic gazelle]

sshhhhh

[brisk jolt]

its so sad man 💀

[brisk jolt]

dudes out here actively spreading propaganda

[gentle loom]

my thermal take 120 as assassin argb cooler only came with these brackets

it won’t fit on my am4 cpu????

it won’t fit

[brisk jolt]

idk maybe try reading the instructions

[frank zealot]

thermaltake or thermalright

[gentle loom]

I would if it wasn’t in chinese

[brisk jolt]

maybe we could search a video or use a translation app just a thought

[gentle loom]

I have it shows a different am4 bracket

[frank zealot]

look at the back of the page sigh

[gentle loom]

but this one shows this one i’m confused

[brisk jolt]

cortisol levels are rising

[gentle loom]

it doesn’t make sense the brackets don’t stretch to the thing

might have to contact them and let them know they forgot to add am4 brackets

[frank zealot]

hey, look at that, ENGLISH

[gentle loom]

yes doesn’t help when it makes no sense

[devout ridge]

the screws through the standoffs go here

[gentle loom]

the brackets don’t stretch I have AM4

[frank zealot]

link to the cooler you got?

[frank zealot]

we don't need your logic here, sir.

[gentle loom]

https://amzn.eu/d/04kgvQ7x

[frank zealot]

There is only the one metal bracket, so nothing's missing

[gentle loom]

okay so it works on the edges now.. weird my old motherboard worked with the inside and I don’t have AM5

[frank zealot]

And are you really this bad at reading the paper in front of you

[frank zealot]

the inside holes are for intel

[gentle loom]

I’m building my first ever pc and this is stressful

thanks guys

i’ll let you know if I need more help.

dropped the screw a few times on the motherboard should be ok lol…

[frank zealot]

Stressing yourself out is only going to cause you to fuck up more.

What you want to do, if you run into something that doesn't make sense: Look up instructions on youtube.

Nearly anything you do will have instructions / guides there

[gentle loom]

I’m not nervous I’ve swapped loads of parts on my old pc for experience and stuff it’s just so overwhelming

I swapped 2 cpus without my hands shaking which is a bonus

rip my old cpu

gulp

rip £25 cpu

[frank zealot]

fixing slightly bent pins is easy

[gentle loom]

it’s 3 bent pins lol

[frank zealot]

you're big into dramatizing, ain'tcha?

[gentle loom]

no I checked

[woven adder]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-hell-nahh-aww-hell-aww-hell-nahh-gif-9659330954843262630

get professional help ASAP

[gentle loom]

lol what?

[fringe vigil]

bro not a princess

[gentle loom]

i ammmmm

[fringe vigil]

how

[hoary hatch]

Easy fix

Even I can do it, and I'm basically Clarkson

https://tenor.com/view/mechanic-hammer-trust-me-im-a-mechanic-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-gif-7525096

[pure garnet]

they’re barely bent too

you probably could just socket it carefully and it’d go in fine

[hoary hatch]

Run a credit card or similar through the lines and it should straighten them up enough to reinsert to the socket

I'm like 90% sure that's what I did when I cold pulled an AM4 cooler

[frank zealot]

.....
how the fuck am I getting a tech support call for....

"I can't turn the TV on with the remote"

[devout ridge]

looks like they’re a bit too far for that

razor blade and some alignment time

[pure garnet]

either way that's super fixable

[gentle loom]

nah just bent more pins rip lol I’m just going to buy another cpu instead

idc anyway it was a £25 cpu that came with my pc 2 years ago

[brisk jolt]

an issue of skill

[woven adder]

you selling the the cpu?

[brisk jolt]

might as well just shave the CPU and officially make it LGA

[gentle loom]

no just gonna throw it away

[woven adder]

i can do that for you

[gentle loom]

hi where is the argb header? can’t find it

[gentle loom]

if you want it have it, it’s a shitty am4 ryzen 3 4100 cpu

[woven adder]

i yearn for this cpu

[hoary hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[gentle loom]

?

[shell void]

DLSS4.5 >= DLSS 4 > PSSR2 > FSR4

[shell void]

sony launched PSSR2 for the PS5 Pro and it outperforms FSR4 in image clarity

[gentle loom]

okay it’s in

i’m so nervous.

[shell void]

you’ll definitely want a PS5 Pro if you intend to play GTA 6 on day one of the console release

[hoary hatch]

Do you know what a manual is

[gentle loom]

I have a xbox series x and s

[gentle loom]

no manual are confusing

okay cpu cooler and cpu is in and ram now what

[turbid locust]

Ayoooooo

[gentle loom]

I forgor

[turbid locust]

feck.

[gentle loom]

my back hurts

took me 2 hours to get a god damn cpu and cooler in 🙄

[frank zealot]

no they're not

[gentle loom]

I had a manual yesterday shit was confusing asf

[turbid locust]

the idea of dropping $750 on a console hurts my soul

[fallow crown]

Anyone got CPU recommendations for a $400 pc build, excluding case? I know the budget is small, but I want to try it.

[frank zealot]

you didn't even know the manual had an english side

DO NOT BLAME THE MANUAL

[turbid locust]

cheapest Zen 2 chip you can find used

[pure garnet]

just play it slightly suboptimal on the single mother series x

[turbid locust]

real

[hoary hatch]

I wish we could mass delete people like you

[fallow crown]

The 5 3600 is Solid if I can find it for a good price

[turbid locust]

yep

[frank zealot]

the 5500 / 5600g are frequently stupid cheap, too

[turbid locust]

well both of those perform like a 3600 so

[frank zealot]

they do lol

[topaz veldt]

This can't be real

[pure garnet]

honestly this seems not horrible

[turbid locust]

you’d probably find the 3600 cheaper cause smaller number worse

[fallow crown]

Cheapest I found is about $50

Converted to USD from NOK

[turbid locust]

eh about what it’s worth

ram is going to be your biggest issue

[fallow crown]

yeah

Might be able to haggle most of the prices though

[shell void]

brutal

[fallow crown]

Now PC!

[brisk jolt]

pisser reigns supreme over FSR what a surprise

https://tenor.com/view/fsr-gif-22015334

[fallow crown]

Do you know how the 3600 performs with 2400mhz ram?

[pure garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/fsr-amd-fsr2-radeon-upscaling-gif-14361789650951144310

[turbid locust]

fine

[frank zealot]

on Zen 2 3200mt/s is optimal? But slower won't hurt it a ton

[odd sable]

i thought 3600 was optimal?

[gentle loom]

this is why people don’t build pcs because of toxic people like you who won’t teach us and help us learn smh.

[fallow crown]

Found a 4 x 4gb kit for $60. I think I'll be able to haggle it down to $50, so not bad?

[odd sable]

manuals aren't PC specific, you should know how to read a manual

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/furfsky-gif-22765398

[brisk jolt]

i think this is less of being toxic and more of the user’s brain not braining

[wheat karma]

Does anyone have recommendations for mice? My Glorious Model O 2 is giving up on me as of late.

[odd sable]

G502 (non-X)

[pure garnet]

as fast as possible is actually optimal but 3200/3600 were both commonplace

not like xmp 3600cl18 and xmp 3200cl16 were much different

[fallow crown]

1080s are getting cheap. They still hold up, mabye I'll go for one?

[odd sable]

yes, but after you pass 3600 you drop to 2:1 unless you OC the IF

[brisk jolt]

why do you want to torture yourself getting anything older than a 20 series in 2026

[odd sable]

if you are lucky, you can get 1900MHz IF to run, but once you step down to 2:1 you need a lot more speed that the IMC usually can't do to make up for it

[fallow crown]

I'm building a second pc with a $400 - $500 budget for fun.

[brisk jolt]

explode

[odd sable]

so, 3600 very much is optimal in general for zen2/3

[fallow crown]

what

[odd sable]

unless you tune it manually, 3800 will perform worse, because it'll drop IF

[brisk jolt]

majority of amd users when they have to shift gears

[fallow crown]

Could sell some stuff and get a 2080. Already got on in my main pc and It's pretty good

[pure garnet]

honestly instead of building a secondary gaming machine why not build a budget nas or something

[fallow crown]

Not a bad idea. Just not sure if I need one tbh

[turbid locust]

or like buy a used Xbox

[pure garnet]

if you’re on a 2080 now in your main system that ~$500 budget also gets most of a 5070 which would be a huge upgrade

[fallow crown]

How much power does a 5070 draw?

[pure garnet]

225w iirc

[fallow crown]

About the same then

Or I can buy this

RGB gaming meat

[turbid locust]

my AirPods did the funny awesome thing where they decided not to charge again

[frank zealot]

your best bet at that pricepoint is to find a cpu.board,ram combo on marketplace or something

[fallow crown]

Yeah probably

[gentle loom]

well i have a job irl you know I work unlike you but anyways

what is this cable for

[brisk jolt]

yeah you wish that 2nd part was true

[gentle loom]

I do but ok.

[brisk jolt]

people like you so full of urselves thinking they're the only employed people online LMAO

[gentle loom]

I’m 17 btw

[brisk jolt]

im 20 btw

[gentle loom]

I have been working since I turned 16

[brisk jolt]

i started working at 15 bozo

[gentle loom]

nice now help me out please

[pure garnet]

it goes in usb c header

[gentle loom]

where is that please I can’t find it

[pure garnet]

manual would say

[gentle loom]

I tried every port

[brisk jolt]

not reading the manual, not using translation app, not flipping the book, not searching google

[fallow crown]

Can't find any combos, not sure how to

[brisk jolt]

holy debuffed

[gentle loom]

I looked in manual but it doesn’t say much lol

I am exhausted from work so I can’t think straight right now just need some help

[pure garnet]

it’s quite possible you don’t have one

[gentle loom]

what’s it for anyway

do I need it plugged in or ?

[pure garnet]

a lot of am4 boards don’t have them, so you’ll just have a dead usb c port on the front panel

[gentle loom]

oh right..

I have the asus tuf gaming b550-plus wifi II motherboard

[pure garnet]

unless you buy something like this to add it https://www.amazon.com/Expansion-10Gpbs-Express-Header-Adapter/dp/B09C58N66R

[edgy laurel]

no built in support for front panel type c

[fallow crown]

Found a i5 9600k combo, with a M.2, cooler, ram and motherboard. Mabye that's a deal?

[gentle loom]

I’m just winging it right now

[pure garnet]

you either need the adapter i linked or just leave it in the case bottom

it’s not going to plug in on that board

[gentle loom]

alright I guess I will save up to buy that adapter if it fits

[edgy laurel]

or a much cheaper adapter to just adapt the port to normal USB3

[gentle loom]

I just want my usbs on the front to work and audio that’s all

[topaz veldt]

ROFL reached out to my one dude about like 300+ DIMMs:

[edgy laurel]

you can plug things in but they won't be 10Gb/s, just 5Gb/s

[gentle loom]

i don’t mind that

what do I do

[edgy laurel]

up to you

i think your options have been covered already

[gentle loom]

okay let me figure out this power supply I think everything is plugged in now

[topaz veldt]

My fav part was "please get them"

[pure garnet]

i thought for a usb c header you had to have usb c

[gentle loom]

port on left is plugged in and all 4 ports on bottom I think i’m ready to install psu

[edgy laurel]

na, you can adapt it like this. Just will be 5Gb/s

[gentle loom]

will the usb ports on the front work without this? I don’t care if usb c won’t work

[pure garnet]

oh i see those in pcie form now too

[gentle loom]

oh yeah got to install my fans forgot about that

[pure garnet]

https://a.co/d/0gclQHrX

[pure garnet]

if you plug them in yeah

[gentle loom]

oki

okay so my fans (light wings be quiet argb) came with a argb hub should I use that or stick with my case’s hub instead my case is a Lian Li Lancool 216

[frank zealot]

so dumb question #1:

Do they both use the same argb connectors?

[gentle loom]

it’s not dumb I am a new builder lol and I think so

[brisk jolt]

use whatever is more convenient or you think is easier to manage

[gentle loom]

I have to manage the lights via software would it be better to use the hub

[frank zealot]

"I think so" isn't very reassuring

[gentle loom]

the argb hub has 6 connectors

[hoary hatch]

Me when I don't have life skills 🤬

[brisk jolt]

LOL

[gentle loom]

can you stop bullying me old man

[hoary hatch]

I wish I was an old man

[frank zealot]

can you learn how to read and use youtube?

[gentle loom]

I’m learning I’ll get it soon

[hoary hatch]

Then I'd have money and property

[gentle loom]

why would I need youtube if I have a server full of sweaty nerds who know everything?

[hoary hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[topaz veldt]

😬

[edgy laurel]

the hub you shared a picture of it just that, a hub. An actual ARGB signal for control will need to come from somewhere, often the motherboard. The far right hand side of that hub as the inputs from the motherboard for both PWM (fan speed) and ARGB (lighting color/effects) as well as power input

[ancient notch]

I hope you get the help you need to be mentally healthier.

[brisk jolt]

"we have all these tools and utilities"

lets use none of them

[gentle loom]

I read this 4 times what do you mean?

[frank zealot]

I hope she learns how to read a damned manual

[edgy laurel]

I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you. I mean what I wrote.

[gentle loom]

manuals take to long I need to get this done before the sun sets or i’ll have no light and i’ll have to use my phones torch

[frank zealot]

blinks
.... the fuck

[hoary hatch]

Me when I have to use flashlight 🤬

[pure garnet]

surely you have power to turn on this pc which means you have power to turn on a light

[frank zealot]

apparently overhead lights aren't a thing where she lives

[gentle loom]

no my bedroom light is broken.

[brisk jolt]

Me when my brain has to brain 💢 😠 😡

[hoary hatch]

Anywhere that uses the term torch is still in the middle ages and hasn't invented indoor lighting yet

[gentle loom]

i’m ignoring the twats.

[pure garnet]

might wanna hit up a home depot

[gentle loom]

it’s a complicated light could take £100 to fix can’t afford it rn

[frank zealot]

most people are going to ignore you, because you're pretty damned insufferable

[pure garnet]

tbf you'd have the system built already if you read the manual instead of arguing about the manual in here

[gentle loom]

I just need some help

[hoary hatch]

Wait am I a twat or an old man
This is very important

[frank zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[hoary hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-por-que-no-gif-23322568

[edgy laurel]

The reason for all this is due to there are a lot of experienced users in here that primarily learn from extensive research, reading, watching and experimenting. Most of us don't learn from just having someone blindly guide us through everything.

[brisk jolt]

you're not him

the closest you would be to would be that one guy who's name started with E, that guy was also insufferable af

[frank zealot]

She thought the cooler instructions were only in chinese.... because she never turned the paper over to read the english side. >.<

[brisk jolt]

Also thought that they were the only ones in the server with a job

[edgy laurel]

Its difficult to want to continue to help someone when a concept is clearly explained but the only response is "what? (basically).

Rather, helping someone whos helped themselves get a good baseline of knowledge beforehand is much preferred.

[hoary hatch]

I learned to build a PC by watching a disgusting amount of LTT build guides when I had no money. By the time I had money to actually afford parts, I was pretty confident I could get it done without issue. I don't think I even needed the motherboard manual for my first PC *(this was before the RGB era fwiw)

[pure garnet]

i had watched the videos but i still had the manual at the ready to make sure i didn't screw stuff up

[frank zealot]

looks around my office
they might be the only one with a job

[steel stream]

hello

[brisk jolt]

i learnt to built a pc by literally mixxing and matching connectors, looking up manuals and googling

cant convince me otherwise that brain eating amoebe would starve in their brain

[hoary hatch]

Oh it was at the ready for sure
But my first was a mini ITX system with very little to actually plug in overall

[frank zealot]

sup

[hoary hatch]

Oh I probably used it to verify the front panel connectors

[gentle loom]

I have researched a lot it’s just so complicated

[hoary hatch]

Gotta do the homework first

[steel stream]

this is what ChatGPT was made for

anyways what are we talking about

https://videocardz.com/newz/sony-announces-upgraded-pssr-upscaler-rollout-for-ps5-pro-first-used-in-resident-evil-requiem

[brisk jolt]

did i just wake up my 5070ti or something

its finally performing how a 5070ti should wtf

[topaz veldt]

$155/ea x 256 😐

lord have mercy

[steel stream]

pocket change

college tuition worth of dimms

[thorny summit]

im wanting something like this is this a good option https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0DYJTB5JN/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1?pd_rd_i=B0DYJTB5JN&pd_rd_w=nn9vD&content-id=amzn1.sym.9a64fe05-cdee-4d53-a27b-f3614d726545&pf_rd_p=9a64fe05-cdee-4d53-a27b-f3614d726545&pf_rd_r=0Z7XVFGC31K8DAF70R2W&pd_rd_wg=9is23&pd_rd_r=8130f9d2-4d3b-40c5-bb85-e7a0362e603e&s=computers&aref=lCqtQLYGMt&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWxfdGhlbWF0aWM&th=1

[frank zealot]

fast VA and curved, you're gonna have rough viewing angles

[wheat void]

YEA! I wish more people would just own it like this

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-johan-cut-it-nahh-not-funny-gif-16881741

[frank zealot]

but mostly, it's going to be a cheap no-name screen and may be okay?
but I've never heard of "Amzfast" so I don't have high hopes for quality out of that display

[shell void]

that’ll pay for a few Ultra 9 495Ks and RTX 6090s

[pure garnet]

@shell void i need a 5090

[steel stream]

is this the new RE?

[brisk jolt]

that looks amazing but you’re getting slaughtered fpswise

[pure garnet]

yeah

[steel stream]

looks pretty good i can not lie

i am loving this util in marathon, use all the CPU

[cosmic gazelle]

loving a bottleneck

[shell void]

the style reminds me of GTA 4

[frank zealot]

129%? lol

[steel stream]

that's my cloud util

265K can't game so I have to send it off to a offshore 9800x3d

[edgy laurel]

bro I spent the whole intro mission just walking around the area. its SO pretty

[steel stream]

bungie knows how to do something right

[edgy laurel]

the native HDR lends itself so well to that environment

[steel stream]

yeah it looks great

runs pretty well too

[edgy laurel]

runs REALLY well

4K, DLAA, default High preset I was basically sitting on my cap

Reflex and GSync on it was absurdly smooth

guns feel great, but we expect nothing less from ole Bungo

[steel stream]

haven't even tested guns out yet

i play like 5 minutes then alt f4

[turbid locust]

I haven’t heard a single person talk about how they enjoyed the gameplay lmao

[thorny summit]

do you know a good screen like this one ?

[frank zealot]

have you looked on rtings?

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-theres-nothing-thank-you-son-chris-griffin-peter-griffin-gif-16308152171798273645

guns feel good though

[wheat void]

in a world where we have destiny 2 and....call of duty animations, I guess the audio must do the heavy lifting there

[fallow crown]

Not sure what to upgrade in my pc next. A new GPU would be nice but all my other parts would fall behind

[topaz veldt]

Did Jay dye his hair?

[brisk eagle]

is the game good

so far

[livid flame]

No. He addressed it in the comment section. Lighting setup was different and made his hair look blond

Think he also mentioned it in the next video he did

[topaz veldt]

Um...

Yeah OK - so he dyed his hair lol

Bro his beard... lol

[frank zealot]

look at the walls, super different lighting

could he have dyed it? maybe?
But the lighting would make it hard to say

[shell void]

newegg is so scummy for this

this open box (returned) monitor 100% has a major defect

[frank zealot]

that's a 110% "do not buy"

[shell void]

one million percent

[topaz veldt]

I dunno - I don't buy it. His beard has NO grey in it any more.

[pure garnet]

pt denoiser is kinda broken rn so it looks really shimmery unless you're at 4k dlaa

so i can take pretty screenshots at most

[steel stream]

feels good

[steel stream]

damn

[shell void]

PLEASE mr jensen we need ray reconstruction 2.0

[jaunty oracle]

Good what’s a good display cable brand, I’ve tried 3 brands & in the last 5yrs, randomly makes my pc throw up a red light for the vga part of my motherboard.

[steel stream]

reflex 2.0 first

[fringe vigil]

Bro knocked off 10 years

[odd sable]

like, fails to post w/ VGA light?

[jaunty oracle]

Yeah & every time I replaced the cable, it stopped the red light for a year or two, I got the GPU RMA once too

[odd sable]

have yo updated your boards bios?

or RMAed the mobo?

[jaunty oracle]

No, but I think it’s too late now tho

I never thought of RMA the mobo

[shell void]

we need both before pathtracing will be mainstream viable tbh

[odd sable]

i had a system do something similar, with multiple GPUs, ram kits, and cpus

the only constant was the mobo

[jaunty oracle]

But it’s always a new cable that fixes it for some reason

[odd sable]

RMAed it, hasn't happened since

[cosmic gazelle]

me when I use this 1 trick the big corporations don’t want you to know (you can charge back literally any purchase and as long as you have a legitimate reason your cc provider will always give you your money back)

[odd sable]

do try updating your mobo bios, that might fix it

[shell void]

RR 2.0 needs to use a heavy upscaling model like Preset L so that people can render at lower resolutions to get decent performance with pathtracing enabled

and then of course reflex 2 to help lower perceived input latency

[cosmic gazelle]

what’s RR i’m clueless

oh ray reconstruction

[buoyant hedge]

I like how as high as RAM prices are, DDR4 is still slightly cheaper than it was during the Cryptoboom in 2017. Back then 32GB was like $350 at some places iirc.

[cosmic gazelle]

32gb of ddr3 currently being $30:

https://tenor.com/view/lightskin-low-cortisol-gif-2047500138520065054

[steel stream]

it'll take them 3 years just to vibe code it

[shell void]

yeah i paid $85 for one 8GB dimm of 2666 lpx in 2017

[buoyant hedge]

My non-gaming machines mostly use DDR3 thankfully.

[shell void]

things have been a lot worse than they are now

[jaunty oracle]

Thx I’ll try that

[shell void]

[cosmic gazelle]

any machine that doesn’t need to do either gaming or heavy production can still get by on a ddr3 xeon

(cue the 14 people telling me im wrong)

[buoyant hedge]

Also, SSDs are still cheaper than they were 10 years ago. Like a good 240GB was $75-90 back then.

[odd sable]

I'd want Skylake as a minimum for NVMe support, but otherwise yea

[buoyant hedge]

Haswell-E can do NVMe too, and a lot of those CPUs support DDR3.

[odd sable]

Yesn't

It depends on the bios, easiest way for my r730 is to use refind with an NVMe driver

[shell void]

the haswell-e cpus that support ddr3 are super slow

like 3.3GHz peak

[cosmic gazelle]

skylake can use ddr3

also haswell had nvme support on high end boards, my z97 has one

[odd sable]

You said ddr3 xeon, so I assumed you meant ivy-ep xeons

Has-ep is ddr4

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah that’s true, z170 7700k ddr3 is kinda meta rn

but yeah i was shocked to find out my haswell board had an nvme when consumer nvme drives didn’t even exist at the time it released

[odd sable]

Chicken and egg problem

One has to exist first

[cosmic gazelle]

also, 7700k imc is probably the best ddr3 capable imc out there so you could probably do 2400 mts on a single rank kit

probably better latency than any ddr4 kit the 7700k could handle, but that’s highly speculative

[pure garnet]

we also just need capcom to disable forced film grain

[gentle loom]

hi what does this mean? it’s plugged into the fan header cpu one (it’s a air cooler).

[edgy laurel]

double check

[green marsh]

peak DDR4 pricing was September 2018 actually. I know, i bought 4x16GB DDR4-3200CL14 b-dies back then. For 985 euros.

[fringe vigil]

Yo princess

[green marsh]

(and before you say anything, 3200CL16 Ripjaws weren't that much cheaper either, they were 930 euros at same time)

[fringe vigil]

you building a pc?

[green marsh]

who is "you" ?

[gentle loom]

can is spinning fine?

[shell void]

but it’s the artist’s intent 🤓

(i agree, you can have it on by default but allow me to disable it)

[gentle loom]

ahhh plug it in there okay got it

[fringe vigil]

are you going to play Roblox on new pc

[shell void]

B650E Taichi Lite the GOATTTT

[edgy laurel]

yes, thats CPU FAN

[green marsh]

it's not like Haswell-E Xeons are fast in general. Peak is 3.6GHz i think

[pure garnet]

got 2 too many dimm slots

[edgy laurel]

Another reason why you should be looking at your manual. Everything is labeled.

[pure garnet]

it’s also labeled on the pcb

[shell void]

the gigachad runs 2dpc at the default trained low jedec speed

[gentle loom]

it said cpu fan and aio fan I got confused see

i put it into cpu fan and it didn’t work but put it into that port you showed and I think it’s booting now

[edgy laurel]

the port i showed you is CPU FAN

[pure garnet]

my ocf auto’d to ddr5-3600

[shell void]

with 4x32?

am5 autos to 3600 with 4x2r

my 14900k autoed to 2000 XD

[pure garnet]

no with 2x24 💀

idk why

board can run 9133 or whatever fine but trains 3600 1r 1dpc by default

[teal orbit]

Maybe it converted the numbers to MHz for you 🧌

[pure garnet]

fr

[shell void]

[hoary hatch]

New pisser time

[steel stream]

it is a good day

[turbid locust]

First impressions of the XM2we, it feels like it’s $60 lol

[brisk eagle]

why is it the goat

[turbid locust]

I haven’t used it yet but yeah like it feels cheap and the switches/clicks sound cheap lol

Decent shape, would be good for someone that doesn’t like smaller mice. It’s got plenty of ass

[shell void]

it sold for $230 two years ago which was a really good price for a higher end am5 board at the time

[topaz veldt]

it has goat-like appearances

[turbid locust]

but it’s assrock

[topaz veldt]

ANUSROCK

[steel stream]

it'll just blow up your cpu

[topaz veldt]

it will blow up your CPU and then punch you in the groin

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goat-gif-4115569673926897153

[topaz veldt]

In an order that would surprise you

[turbid locust]

Asrock said fuck everyone ngl

their bios’ are just “does it allow the system to boot? Ship it.”

I need to check and see if I still have any more glass dot skates

those fuckers fix any mouse for me

[gentle loom]

it’s finally done (ignore my goofy ahh curtain need to buy new ones lol)

[hoary hatch]

ahh
Cooked. Your brain is cooked.

[turbid locust]

I love saying ahh ironically

like goofy ahh skateboard

goofy ahh elkay water dispenser

[hoary hatch]

💀

[frank zealot]

I mean, so's half this server, so they'll fit right in

[gloomy vault]

3.8

1680v3

unlocked multi so people have gotten it to like 5ghz

[topaz veldt]

is it ok if I dont get the ahh thing

[fringe vigil]

roblox?

[turbid locust]

It’s just basically censor dodging for “ass”

[topaz veldt]

speaking of, did Vert leave?

[turbid locust]

got popular on social media because “curse word bad”

[turbid locust]

idk lmao

[topaz veldt]

hasn't posted shit in eons

just dropped one of my 9800X3D in the mail

on my way to MC to buy another bundle

[edgy laurel]

i said the same thing a few weeks ago. it looks goofy as hell

[vestal granite]

why not say ass its faster more efficient etc

[shell void]

@topaz veldt did you try the 0.95v limit on your 5090 SFF?

[frank zealot]

some places warship ass

[vestal granite]

then dont say either

[frank zealot]

all of the creative dodges exist for shit like club penguin and crap

[topaz veldt]

on GPU?

[green marsh]

i hate that my brain says "buy stuff for local LLM" and i know it is wrong... also next week we are getting claude code presentation at work, so i guess we are getting a work sub to it, so it would be stupid to invest local 😄

[shell void]

yes

[hoary hatch]

Crazy how ewaste still plays modern titles at 1440p 60FPS!!!
(*With rendering at 720p doo-doo tier and PS4 textures)

[steel stream]

yuck

[topaz veldt]

no

[frank zealot]

maybe

[topaz veldt]

hi

[pure garnet]

where’s the modern title

cyberpunk is like 6 years old

[frank zealot]

lol

[frank zealot]

and somehow still looks amazing

[vestal granite]

why do we need better graphics? tetris looked great.

[pallid marsh]

It can't even use Windows 11 officially

[gentle loom]

no I quit Roblox lol I play mad max and dying light 1 and stuff.

[green marsh]

i am using ewaste for LLM. Xeon E5-2699v3 (18c/36t), 128GB DDR4-2133 ECC RDIMM, 1080 Ti 😄

[fluid river]

calling 1080ti ewaste is a crime

[green marsh]

9 year old GPU, 12 year old CPU

[green marsh]

by age it belongs to that group

8700K is already in ewaste category, next year, 9900k drops into ewaste category 🙂

[low sorrel]

bf6

[pallid marsh]

It can't play Indiana Jones so it's ewaste

[pure garnet]

it is ewaste

[green marsh]

to be fair, real ewaste is Sandy/Ivy Bridge now for modern stuff, because instruction support if i remember correctly

[pallid marsh]

If its Nvidia with no dlss 4.5 support it's ewaste

[pure garnet]

burning almost 300w for 1080p low isn’t exactly impressive

[green marsh]

i am burning 250W for slow LLM. I mean it's usable, but the VRAM situation iss sad

11GB VRAM is very limiting for LLM. To be fair, even 32GB on 5090 is kinda limiting 😄

[lethal topaz]

hungry

[frank zealot]

but the 5090 crunches numbers way faster

[low sorrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2fYTXZhwtc

[edgy laurel]

beat ya by like 6 hours 😉

(but thats fine i'm sure others haven't seen it)

[merry stirrup]

not even an ssd

[low sorrel]

damn timezones you get a 3 hour head start

[edgy laurel]

🤣

[green marsh]

on other side this 1080 Ti was 70 euros + 40 euros for the aftermarket cooler. 5090 is a bit more expensive

[frank zealot]

maybe a smidge

what cooler?

[green marsh]

Raijintek Morpheus.

[frank zealot]

nice

I've got an Arctic Accelero on my 1080 (non-ti)

[green marsh]

Officially not supported for 1080 Ti, but it is identical to Morpheus IIc (except color), which is OK for 1080 Ti

also Bing AI moment

[edgy laurel]

thats quite weird

[topaz veldt]

@shell void

[green marsh]

well, i was not talking about Google AI 🙂

[frank zealot]

okay this is a neat demo of a heat pipe at work:
https://youtu.be/foPAGVOgd-c?t=174

[gentle loom]

why does my psu “CORSAIR RM750e” click when turned on and off?

it makes a click noise is that normal

[frank zealot]

not unusual.

[gentle loom]

okay..

[shell void]

nice, is that the TUF or TUF OC?

if you want to match the boost clock of the asus matrix, msi lightning, aorus infinity, ETC then you can run:
+180MHz on TUF OC
+323MHz on TUF non-OC

that should get you to around ~2730MHz at 0.95v

[vestal granite]

oh my god this tapioca pudding fellas

[topaz veldt]

TUF OC

[topaz veldt]

For some reason its hanging around 2527 MHz

@shell void

[shell void]

that’s bizarre

[shell void]

here’s mine

[topaz veldt]

Does it actually hit 2800

[shell void]

i apply the core clock offset to the entire curve and then flatten it after 0.95v

it hangs at 2760MHz most of the time

ex: 2760MHz 0.945v

[topaz veldt]

i think this box is just too damned hot

[topaz veldt]

481W though

[shell void]

yeh that’s 2160p DLAA

it was 702W with no voltage limit

[fringe vigil]

i played some dying light but never finished it

play last of us

[shell void]

and 366W 0.87v with the max efficiency tune

[pure garnet]

i wish you had resident evil to try

[shell void]

same i’d love to bench that game but i dont wanna pay $80 or whatever

[pure garnet]

i wanna know if the 5090 would be playable at 4k dlaa with pt + frame gen

[topaz veldt]

$80 thats hilarious

[pure garnet]

i’d assume it could get to like 40fps base

[shell void]

$80 for a game that i only have interest in for benchmarking is bananas

[pure garnet]

i didn’t pay for it i’m a steam family bum

[shell void]

it’s like 30-35fps on a stock 5090 so yeah maybe 40fps max oced

at like 750W lmao

[pure garnet]

doable if you play from a couch then

[civic reef]

Asked for the price on this on FBMP

Could you guess the answer?

[shell void]

ngl i’d probably use dlss ultra performance with preset L for couch gaming

which makes a 5090 completely pointless

[pure garnet]

you can’t because the denoiser takes a dump

[shell void]

yeah i don’t play with pathtracing because it looks awful when rendered at lower resolutions with our current denoisers

[pure garnet]

the fences were doing dances while you sit still from the grain + artifacts

[shell void]

and i’m not playing at 40fps

[pure garnet]

pt off but rt high was getting me a good frame rate but i stopped playing since i just opened it to bench

[shell void]

it seems like rt high + quality dlss preset K is the play

[frank zealot]

at least 500 lol

because they're probably delusional

[civic reef]

Close, a bit less

Okay not a bit

[pallid marsh]

$250

[civic reef]

Close, higher

[pallid marsh]

Anything over $300 is too much

[frank zealot]

even 300 usd is too much

the ryzen 1600 is worth like 5 bucks

[civic reef]

For a 1600X machine I wouldn't pay 300 tbh

[pallid marsh]

Your in Lebanon right?

[frank zealot]

maybe 300 CAD would be okay, but not usd

[civic reef]

R7 1700s are $40 ❤️
2600Xs $60

[civic reef]

Yep

[pallid marsh]

Hey the "Logitech" mouse could be super light or something

[civic reef]

Dusty, half dead wired mouse!!!!

Also, it's $400

[pallid marsh]

Lmao

[civic reef]

Genuinely hilarious shit tbh 😭

[cosmic gazelle]

this is wild, 2600s sell for like 30 in the usa rn

[hoary hatch]

Slop for slop, seems fitting

[fallow crown]

Why is the 5060 ti only 8gb GDDR7?

[frank zealot]

it could be. but it's not lol

[frank zealot]

there's an 8 and 16gb version

[fallow crown]

Still think 8gb for one of the latest cards is low

[frank zealot]

amd did it on the 9060 as well

for low-end, it's still "okay" ish

[fallow crown]

Also in my case It's $100+ extra

[frank zealot]

yes, more VRAM costs more

and current VRAM is extra extra

even more than guac is extra

[fallow crown]

😔

[fallow crown]

I have no idea what I should upgrade next

[frank zealot]

what part of your PC is underperforming the most

[pallid marsh]

You should've bought 5 months ago

[frank zealot]

but spoiler:
It's a shit tier time to upgrade most computer parts right now, so my suggestion is "If you don't need to upgrade? don't do it currently."

[hoary hatch]

The more egregious issue is AMD and Nvidia both have a product with 2 different configurations under the same name

[frank zealot]

CPUs: Mostly msrp
RAM: triple or more MSRP. Yer Fucked
GPUs: Overpriced and getting worse
SSDs: Double what they were

Basically: Don't upgrade unless you need to

[indigo walrus]

It's not? Availability of the 16GB variant might be poor right now but they do exist. I have one.

[hoary hatch]

Intel did the same with A770, but there were only about 10 people who bought it so meh

[pallid marsh]

I was holding out with my 5700xt for a 5070 ti super , then bought a 9070xt when it reached MSRP knowing ai fucked us

[frank zealot]

I've got one at home, and one in my work PC

[frank zealot]

I'm still mad that the 5080 Super isn't happening.
I was holding out upgrading for one of those to come out

now i'm just not, because fuck 2026 pricing

[pallid marsh]

5080 was such a lame card man

[hoary hatch]

Everyone would have preferred it if
16gb = 5060ti 9060xt
8gb = 5060 9060

[fallow crown]

Shoul've bought DDR5 and all of those upgrades before the insane prices

[pallid marsh]

Lacking cores and vram

[frank zealot]

the super was expected to have 24gb, which would have been awesome

[indigo walrus]

Nice. The 5060 Ti 16GB really does feel like the sweet spot Nvidia card for 1440p60 max settings gaming (in most games) or 1440p120/144 medium high settings, assuming you buy it for a good sale price. (As with all things... There absolutely are horribly priced versions of this card.)

[hoary hatch]

Well the 5080 uses a fully unlocked GB203.... But it does lack vram

[pallid marsh]

The 5070 got as low as $399 that was a amazing deal

[hoary hatch]

It's not that the 5080 core count is disappointing, it's that the GB203 die size is disappointing

[merry stirrup]

the issue is that a fully unlocked gb203 compared to a...mostly unlocked gb203 is not much of a difference

[fallow crown]

Used 5070s are over $500 here

[indigo walrus]

So like... $1200 CAD. Nice. 😁 No but seriously, even in CAD, I too saw some 5070 cards on for steals. They were just out of my budget.

[hoary hatch]

5080 really should have been 24gb for it to make a real market sense

[merry stirrup]

should have also just been a cut down 5090 for more expensive rather than the inverse

[pallid marsh]

5080 should've matched the 4090 in gaming

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[hoary hatch]

I mean

GB202 is basically double GB203
Surely they could have made GB203 a bit larger

[merry stirrup]

1200$ is a reasonable price for whats effectively the flagship this gen cause most people aent buying a 5090

[merry stirrup]

fair

[frank zealot]

16GB 60 TI's are now up 100 bucks at Microcenter over what they were

[merry stirrup]

yeah 5080 in general is disappointing