#tech-chat-2
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i can assure you that you are not good enough to complain about your team
I think it’s fair to say we are buried
34 inches of snow reported here. Literally waist height
Unless I'm reading something wrong that's only 32
kinda want this just because it’s $5
paperweight
lmao
Is there any impact on having 2 monitor connected to same graphics card(9070xt), One monitor is1440p with 300 hz and other is 1080p with 144 hz
yes but it’s generally negligible
minimal
1% and below
the impact comes from whatever youre running on the second monitor moreso than just having the monitor connected
like cs2 and just like youtube or discord
and do I have to plug same type of cable, Or I can mix and match with DP or hdmi to gpu?
you can mix and match, and both of those will have a non-zero impact on your framerate
but it’s not really enough to matter much
sounds good
Sometimes wifi be funky
Good thing trained spotter doesn't do my taxes
how tf do you get trained to spot snow
Oh no they were calling me slurs
I have realized why I play valorant
don’t just don’t
ok
i havent touched the game since
called it
Do I swap out my Phanteks XT pro for a O11 D Mini v2
if you want to
I think I do
Lol
I just found out it comes with a vertical gpu mount and has swappable front/top io
I've been laughing my ass off at this one video
So there's this guy reviewing a Lenovo Legion Gaming Monitor for 150£
And for like 5 solid seconds you can see his wallpaper is Animal Crossing NSFW Art
And most of the people in the comments section are pretending to not notice it

Bruh
SSDs really came with DVD driver packages? 😭
They sure did, back in the day. https://archive.org/details/SAMSUNGSSD4.0
Software CD bundled with Samsung SSDs around 2013.LA81-01016A
I guess my 2015 850 evo probably had one
I tossed all my driver CDs a year or two ago because they had never once been used
bup
https://www.bestbuy.com/product/gigabyte-b850-eagle-wifi6e-socket-am5-amd-b850-atx-ddr5-wi-fi-6e-motherboard-black/J3ZW92VVCC damn best buy having a clearance sale for $81
sheesh that's like b350/b450 era pricing
thats not bad at all
To bad ram costs b350 but without the b
@edgy laurel what was that mouse with the hot swap batteries that you were looking at?
It was from glorious
i think i made fun of my viper too much bc now the sensor feels off
I’d like another wanling mouse>
idk what i'll replace my v3 pro with
superstrike sems to have really odd qa issues atm
i just know it's coming up for replacement soon
unless i buy a new battery and bottom shell

Superstrike but chinese
i can actually just buy another viper v3 pro for $70 new from amazon
and use my existing 8k dongle
chinese superstrike will probably be around that price
and come with an 8k dongle
yah in like 6 months or so
i for one am going to buy it because shits cool
bro will buy anything but a gpu
it's ragebait atp
ennui bought my 4070 before jerry did
@pure garnet hey lets buy some keyboard switches
Not bad
@edgy laurel this is why I like tac shooters btw
thats right get the stupid reyna player
i mean chamber is basically the same
no fuck the reyna players
I plan on M-Flashing my BIOS today, will it matter if I stick the USB into the front or at the rear in the dedicated BIOS USB port?
Shouldn't matter, best to just plug it into a motherboard USB slot tho
Yeeeeehaw https://videocardz.com/newz/apple-says-mac-mini-manufacturing-will-start-in-texas-later-in-2026
That sounds... Confusing
E cores are here to stay
E cores are great, as long as there's enough P cores to go along with them
@topaz veldt my stash... Is 50 Ven 4s...
I'm glad that you're happy lol
Who is giving this feedback
fuck that, make scrappy cluck more
Scrappy deserves to express himself in his truest form
what did the stitcher and kettle ever do to anyone apart from being tragically bad in starter form
Preparing to flash my BIOS
Take it it’s the HH0?
Does system volume information on the stick matter?
It’s a 64GB Philips USB
volume on the stick doesn't matter, and it should be HH0, correct
I pressed enter but now the screen is frozen
I used arrow keys to select it, pressed enter to select but it didn’t do anything and now my screen is stuck
Doesn’t react to any inputs now
Stuck on the M-Flash screen
It’s supposed to give me this menu after selecting HH0 but it’s stuck
so many parts. https://www.reddit.com/r/watercooling/comments/1rdbzo4/custom_white_block_for_rtx_pro_6000_with_corsair/
(gallery is wild)
8x96GB o_o
the whole motherboard is covered in waterblock
gpu temps must be crazy with four 480mm rads
you can't see it
it’s probly like having an external mora
Oh no the stitcher and kettle needed a nerf, a kitted out stitcher had a LOWER TTK to the head then a bobcat with better accuracy
whats amazing is how little tubing you can see, even on the backside
looks like a puzzle icl
ok yeah the more you look, the tubing runs to, between and from the radiators is probably the most impressive part
He plans on playing Civilization 1, Stardew Valley, Age of Empire 2, and DOOM on that bad boy.
With mag 3 there's basically unstoppable
Wait embark wtf, you nerfed the sell price of cores by almost half? Right before the expedition where I had most of my 1.5 million in cores
So now I need to grind 500k
Like I could care less about the other parts
But this is just fucking annoying
at retail pricing, that is somewhere in the $900 range in corsair fans
So one thing I don't get. Most AIOs use a copper coldplate but an aluminum radiator (like this Arctic Liquid Freezer III). How are they getting away with that without galvanic corrosion? I thought that using anti-corrosion inhibitors was basically bullshit?
They don't use an aluminum radiator
Some do some don't but there are coolants that do not cause galvanic corrosion
Anti-Corrosion additives are not bullshit. They've been used for a long long time. Think about every old house that has copper plumbing but cast iron radiators
hi
Bro this is exactly what I've been asking for
@low sorrel would it be unethical to buy Arc Raiders again for "my son" and hand him all my blueprints
just use steam family sharing
Can't play 2 at a time
I would need to team up with him and give him all my shit
greenl-
Not worried about the $40 its more of a like "should I?"
not really
I feel like you scam yourself out of the grind
LOL
like whats the point of wiping
if you have all the bps ready
and your already at end game
You lose all your BPs?
right
I am thinking I could dump him a Mk3 survivor and just do 3 at a time safe pocket surrenders
Evac all my shit of value, then do the reset, and get the shit back
well I think i'd do like super valuable "it took me forever to find this" shit safe pocket
then i could just do like cores and shit to his character w/ a hatch key
I mean you could but haven't you been complaining about nothing to grind for
and then you're giving you're self like 60% of the grind
smells scammy
ah yes my bullshit technique i havent used this since the heian era
(reply is saying he’s running 6kc26 at 1.3v)
<@&750150305383186585> they joined today, seems like a scam
I am not anxious to go searching for a 1/1000 BP again
Could be - dude my 6000 CL26 H16A work at 1.3
or maybe it was 1.32, but either way, its low
perfect
he has a 2x24gb 6kcl28 1.35v kit
Ok - I also have 2x24GB 6K CL26, I could try it low
he sounds like he entirely doesnt know what he's saying
"yeah my hdr config is great"
-autohdr
Snail why are you gae
UPS Simulator 2.0
it's a very popular game amongst the unemployed
Oh, this is interesting.
For the first time on PC, you’ll find Pico as an option in Upscale Settings. This “Progressive Image Compositor” is developed by Guerrilla for the Decima engine and is the same upscaling technology that’s used for Death Stranding 2 on PS5. Pico upscaling can be used with all supported graphics cards and can be combined with the various options for frame generation offered in the game.
All upscaling options can be used in combination with Dynamic Resolution Scaling, or with an upscaling quality setting of choice to improve performance. Native AA options are also available for maximum fidelity.
i’m curious if this company: https://kuycon.us/monitors will put out 5K 120-165Hz and 6K 120-165Hz monitors after Apple unveils their new Studio monitors in a couple of weeks
Browse Kuycon high-end monitors. 4K, 5K, and 6K monitors with glossy and matte finishes.
they offer apple-like designs, but with normal I/O and PC support
i would be intrigued by a 32” 6K 120Hz+ glossy IPS monitor with a metal chassis and DP2.1 for <$2000
Dream Router 7 just shipped
Another one of those Korean brands?
Imagine
Hyundai IONIQ 5K QD-OLED
chinese, and they’re the best clone company from what i’ve seen
oh wow that is super cool
I'm really excited to see that
Thanks 
@edgy laurel I wonder if we will ever get PSSR on PC, it's pretty familar to FSR4 afaik, would be neat to see
so thats not what this is? i'm very unfamiliar with PS upscaling apart from the "pisser" jokes
from what I know, it's not the same. I think PICO is the "checkerboard" rendering method console uses, but PSSR is a different thing only found on PS5 pro
oh what it might be something different?
this what shows up when i google "ps5 progressive image compositor"
we might have to wait and see for a DF video about this PC port
The 2 PS4 games I've played on my PS5 look as shit as they did in 2013
I'd love a killzone remaster
not happening
Guerrila for some reason is making a Horizon multiplayer game
I think this is a mistake
yes it isd
it's pushing Horizon 3 back, and even diehard Horizon fans I know are not interested in the game
Oh wait
This is an interim title before Horizon 3?
I thought this was supposed to be horizon 3
no, interim title
Is this the fallout 76 of horizon
probably
Wait is fallout 76 the last fallout title
yeah there hasn't been a new one since
Oh fuck we're so fucked
I think Fallout remasters just got announced recently
Okay akn
I have one possible thought
Maybe they have a team working on horizon 3 set to debut as PS6 launch title
I'm sure they've got it on the back burner, but it's gonna be years before we see anything I bet
Closer to 2030 than 2025
I mean PS6 I think is expected late 2027 at earliest. If Sony pushes it back a year, I could see a late 2028 launch
with all the layoffs and studio closures, I fear having some underperforming multiplayer title will not help Guerrila
Oh it may very well sink the studio
yeah, it was not received well in a very heavy focused horizon discord I am in
Is this just HDR fanatics
no it's a Horizon speedrunning community lol
Is there a way to disable all dialogue/cutscenes
Wow that seems so painful to speedrun

I meant to paste that elsewhere
hmmmmmm
why is my class on windows system administration just every week installing windows server 2022 on loop
are people in a 4th year college program not capable of using an installer or something
nope
i'd believe it man
if my display flickers only when i’m not at my desk that’s usually the displayport cable right
"Death Stranding 2: On the Beach" sounds like the beach volleyball spinoff
Dude I hate “broke” mentality people like- Those with mentalities and habits that keep them broke like holy shit
No
thanks jorj
Ive started death stranding like the other day
Im not sure if I even completed the tutorial since I’ve only just reached the part where the objective is to meet the president
I think thats about as far as I got
Maybe I shouldnt have given back my friend his keys back home 💀
I was gonna write a fun comment back but Jorj shut this down
yeah man, guy doesn't get jokes but makes them all the time
Have you played the first one
I've played like 30 minutes of it
same
you best believe I will buy the second!
Same
same
Bro doesn’t even know what’s going on why would you do that
lol
is this the quickest turn around for a PC port?
so it can sit in my library like the first one
my friend said its nice, everyone said its nice but at the same time “everyone” also said its a walking simulator
the classic jorj. you didn't even play the first one, why play the second.
jorj it doesn't matter
Just skip to the 3rd
facts
I'll play the first one through
facts
I want to play the game to get to that one scene in the amusement park
with all the sparklers
Just about, released late June last year
I’d rather play it and experience it myself but do yoy
just found someone trying to sell a 5950x for $500
and the cherry on top is his description says “will trade for 5800x3d”
another day and no 5070 mini

however floopie is going taiwan and i asked him to find a 5060ti 16gb cyclone
should remove that fan and slap a t30 onto it
truly low cortisol
but the stock lil white fan is cute
its cute but I dont imagine it not being a jet engine
i can guarantee that it’ll be absolutely fine with a 0.95v limit topping it out around 120W
I still need to under volt the roommate's 3090
that thing is beautiful
But it's not too much of a concern in the winter
all 5060Ti's should be that small
@shell void my mousepad is now baking outside to dry but i made the mistake of doing it during a cold day
my damn fingers be frozen
nah it's just 42 and windy out so i was just freezing myself
The entire time I was out of state it was 70 and sunny
I come back and it’s 10 degree windchill and flurries
fml
I think I just used a fan indoors and mine was dry WAY faster than I expected
like an hour
how long does that take to dry usually?
I drape mine over the spare shower and flip it after a day lol
inb4 I flash a asus TUF bios for 234w limit
fuck. a day?? i was blown away how just a fan blowing over it for an hour completely dried mine
well I have like a giga LTT pad
It probably doesn’t take that long I just don’t care lol
I did do that wrap it up with a towel and squeeze method first
to get the excess out
it’s essential
my big soft pad is ready to be used right after washing
42 is shorts weather smh
or rather, roll it up with a towel
having to wait a day is absurd
what pads you guys using
LTT
The largest LTT makes
towel burrito tech is mandatory
lol
I use a Lord of the rings pad from Drop
95% dry 3 minutes after i just washed it and ready to use immediately
Of course you do
some xl artisan pad
yo i just saw a post on /r/lotr about Andy Serkis' reading of The Silmarillion and I saw I had an Audible credit. This will be my commute entertainment for the next few weeks.
i let it bake for about 2 hours and then towel dry the rear
so overrated it’s not even funny
“Control pad” words spoken by the utterly deranged
i air dry because i can't buy the pad anymore
hell yeah, from what I've heard the Andy Serkis audiobooks are fantastic
control pad is just ali express mousepad
sister i must ask why you would towel after air drying
thanks bud
that’s backwards
its aite, im gonna just keep it as a pad for the ITX when I get a glasspad so I dont need to really bother tht much with maintenance and wear
Control pad is just lower your fucking sensitivity lmao
because im not letting the rear bake for 2 hours
glass pads 
my mousepad is just sitting on my dryway rn
yeah, i'm going to check my old audiobooks of the other books to see if it was him. Interested to see what the silmarillion is all about.
you underestimate the chinese
so the bottom will be dirty when i pick it up
we have opposite interests in these tiny gpus
iirc it's essentially just a collection of stories and lore about Middle-earth
and then i wipe it off with a towel
i see the cyclone and i want to undervolt it to 75W
Glass mouse skates on cloth pads will always be my method
i've used tiger esports ice ptfe for like 4 years
@topaz veldt only us OG's know
nah we do have similar ones its pretty much the voices in my head telling me to be a menace
i just use whatever pads came with my superlight
i run stock feet till they're wore out
then i replace with esports
this is the first time i've owned a mouse this long so
well i'm down. probably going to prompt a full re-listen of all the books
I swap to glass dots within 3 days of buying a new mouse
I just started reading LoTR but I've not been very good about reading it everyday
im thinking of just buying a viper v3 pro se to replace my v3 pro because it's the same mouse just with a 1k hz dongle, and then i'll just use the existing 8k dongle i have
8K Polling is still a meme
Why audiobooks work so well for me. I'm consistently in the car multiple times a week for an hour at a time, no real excuses.
its still very noticeable in eating ur battery
mhm
starting may I will have a commute so maybe I'll pick up some audiobooks
like this looks like the method
probably a better way to spend the time other than listening to my one playlist
May I recommend a mouse double the price
you can but i can't guarantee i buy it
I need everyone on a Pulsar X2CL Mini
oh i dont have baby hands
I don’t either
I go through phases of audiobooks and podcasts. I'm finishing a few months of just doing podcasts so I think i'm headed back into audiobooks with this one. And yeah I do find them more interesting than music but thats just how I am with music.
cursed
that’s cap your honor
music for at the desk now for me, I don't even have AirPods or earbuds for commutes or gym anymore. Audiobooks are probably better for keeping me engaged
true i do love my baby girl phone
but i still need adult sized mouse
my s22 ultra feels like a tablet now in comparsion to my phone
i like my 17pm more now that i’ve been running it with no case
yeah it feels nice no case
we just got in some test phones for troubleshooting things. iPhone 16 base and Galaxy S25 FE
The Galaxy kinda makes the base iphone seem like a toy
the display refresh is killing it
yeah it took till 17 base for the base to be good again
Jork
In all fairness I play claw
i love the finger feel of a matte glass protector on a touch screen, but i always get sick of the screen being blurry and peel it off after a while
i do something inbetween palm and fingertip
I think that’s quite literally claw
I was on a Viper V2 Pro before the X2CL and it has more ass and it was still comfortable
you'd have to pay me to put on a matte screenprotector
model o wireless -> viper ultimate -> superlight -> superlight 2 -> v3 pro
Also, too many people now have those privacy screen protectors
privacy protectors also put a texture on the screen that i hate
just ruins the screen for me
idk ive personally used a glass table with no mousepad before
also what are you doing at 20 that needs a privacy protector
you're just scrolling reels and sending texts
it feels soooo nice for a touchscreen tho bro
if only we could have it without the disgusting blur and grain
I want to go from my 14p>19pm
i still miss the dock the viper ultimate had
that was the coolest mouse charger i owned
yeah this is my issue with them
as soon as anything white is on screen it’s like EUGHHH
looks filthy
why does every small tech channel that likes apple always orange tint their videos
I want either a black or a red wlmouse huan
ill probably go for red since I dont want to keep a boring colour
i hate razer products but the viper mice are so cool lookin
nah personally i hate every razer product regardless
deathadder looks like shit - always has - thing looks like bell-bottom pants. but viper? i like a viper mouse.
i wish this was the norm
having to plug my mouse in for charging occasionally kills wireless mice for me
especially the ultra lightweight models that only have like two days of battery life
thats why i use a battery mouse so i can just pop a new battery in instead of playing with it wired
when im not using it for games its mildly inconvenient but the battery also lasts anywhere from 4 days to 2 months on a battery
i don’t mind the shape of the G305 but i prefer mice to be <60G which isn’t going to happen with AA/AAA battery mice
i keep a g305 on me for mouse use on campus
back when i was using the g14 as my daily
i use g305 the receiver is the worst mouse receiver ive ever used in my life
my lightspeed cable is already falling apart
i will never buy a logitech mouse ever again unless its $5 at a goodwill
going back to steelseries after this one
maybe then AMD will fuckin DO SOMETHING
that does actually make sense for meta since they'll eventually want to do a verse of the meta variety again and amd hardware runs the new steam valve valve eyeball set
more investment inbreeding to bolster the overvaluation
a royal faangily or something
@low sorrel If I have $11.5M coins and burn through my stash items themselves, I can still get max expedition shit right?
same
after having two $150 mice with QC issues within 6 months
huh that sucks - I have been lucky I suppose
yay!
My GPW double clicked within 90 days 😭
LOL
yeah my superlight 2 scroll wheel failed super early into ownership
yeah I had two superlights and both had click and scroll issues within 6 months
meanwhile i've had this viper for 2 years
Credit where it's due, their RMA for it was surprisingly painless
and the only issue it has are user caused
Yeah they just straight up sent me a new one didn’t ask for the old one back
i blew a tactical hole in the under carriage below the feet bc i didnt know it was honeycomb
and after 2 years the battery is getting worn
dude truly
https://videocardz.com/newz/the-witcher-3-multiplayer-mod-witcher-online-gets-client-update-1-11 did not know this was a thing
rebooting back into windows from plasma is always such a joy
shall i get
back to functionality
wait until she's your wife and it is her room
invoke the 3rd amendment
if she is military
that must be the one room in your house without a computer
you’re right
i bought a better projector 💪
best of luck 🫡
dope, which one?
i bought a lg pf50ka
im kinda limited on the size of the projector so i went with one of these, rtings doesn't have great things to say about it but
generally people online seem to be happy with theirs and it was one of the cheaper small 1080p projectors i could find
i wonder what the people at the store think of me when i buy a thing of pre-cooked chorizo links, can of dolmades, 4 monster energy drinks, and 2 rolls of bread.
they probably think im sick and goated and fly as hell
sweet. As for rtings, who cares it's a projector meant for side content I am assuming
"Another gym-bro with their insane diet"
i've been using my projector to lie in bed and watch content
dont need a sommelier for box wine
yeah a projector is goated for that
it's been really nice cause by the time i finish my couple of episodes, my bed is nice and toasty and i can fall asleep quickly
have you ever done the tour de franzia
ive noticed a direct correlation of how well-made my bed is and how well i sleep
no
even this shitty TCL tv is so nice for youtube in bed
oh for sure
still
over this
It's fun you should try
not to self glaze but I’m clean asf w it ngl
what happened
a TV probably has way better picture quality, but the reason why i'm going with a projector is because i can put the projection nice and high up, which lets me lie flat on my back
lil flicky
yeah that's goatedc
and also it's nice and easy to set up with my pc, cause i can just put it on top of my bed frame cause that's next to my PC
hmm maybe I also need a projector

I don't know if they're necessarily worth buying over a TV, it was just really convenient for me
i cant project stuff onto my bedroom ceiling cause i have to look away from any noises to sleep but i cant sleep on my stomach because my face will get submerged into my pillow and ill die or my neck will hurt
that poor reyna
nah projecting onto the ceiliing would be peak
rip, i can't project onto the ceiling cause i have shitty popcorn ceiling
i hope it's not full of asbestos or something
get earplugs man, they're so amazing
probably not
no its not about the noise itself i can sleep with noise but the direction of the noise is what i have to face away from and i dont know why
i mean if it works for you it works for you
guys getting minorly roasted on /r/battlestations for one thing
so my tv shows are on in the direction of my bedroom windows and then that way all the noise is in one direction
I’m a chamber off angle abuser ngl
headphone wire?
nope
first I thought it was the noctua desk mat, then I saw
you of all people know
well he plays rust so
im lost
speakers are the main reason I'll never have my monitors directly touching eachother
but is it the monitor light
see I can't sleep on my back so stomach it is
oh the speakers
oh he’s mad the speakers don’t point at the guys ears
he at least needs to flip them so tweaters are further apart
mine don't either
my soundbar is mounted on my wall
but im a monke and it sounds fine to me
yeah at least flip them if you aren't putting them vertical
to my right
wrong reply
i got it
Oh God it's infected mobile now
huh?
light bar, wall tile things, mic on giant arm, bottom case fans look weird, speaker paths converge before where head would be, left side drawers unusable half the time due to headphones holder placement
I'm about 1 week away from hooking up these klipschs to my $150 TCL 4K TV
Name font
well, one of those is accurate lol
ah
🔥
also amazon alexa echo on the desk to hear everything you say
like bro just get a siri on your phone or something
appears to be
finally going home and getting rid of the soundbar box, so I can have space for speaker stands
these klipschs have been sitting on my floor for a month now
i still dont have a TV for the main reason of i dont know how to put a TV in an elevator
with care and respect
soon, soon
walk inside it with the TV?
also you can put it vertically
leggooooo
well i know physically how but i dont know how i should do it mentally i dont have yalls' millenial cargo shorts and sandals swagger to do it
you know what would be neat, is if the soundbar had like a "center channel" mode and could use powered speakers for the main L/R's
man fuck you
damn he called you a millenial
my brain chemistry is fucked up from being on the internet my whole life so like ill travel internationally with no hesitation and then getting the mail i gotta mentally prepare for 25 minutes in case someone talks to me
That case is something I would love to build in someday

for q990d you can kinda do that? there's a settings in the app where you can use the rear speakers as front left and right
also sorry pepe that fuck you sounded really harsh
i feel that
bro dont worry not even snail can offend me
he comes close but he cant
yeah, though i prefer the BF360 from them
yeah
I guess you would do that if you wanted really wide stereo but the soundbar does a decent enough job as is
what made me think of it are some TV's have a "center channel" mode. So you can hook up external powered 2.0's/2.1's but then the TV itself will function as a center channel for a 3.1 setup
Yes
yeah I think for samsung it's called Q-symphony or whatever, but I don't see the point in it since the soundbar will probably just be loads better compared to the TV
That's fair, though even as a non-fishtank guy this is one of the select few I actually dig

oh for sure, this is more for someone without a soundbar
so I was thinking that maybe the soundbar could just be the center then have auxilliary 2.0 powered speakers acting as the mains
all this is kinda janky anyway lol
center channel doesn't really make sense to me since practically no audio is intended for a left-center-right layout 🤔
that's 5.1
its entire job is dialog
its a big job
🤔
so you play 5.1 audio where you combine the rear and front left to just left, combine rear and front right to just right, to play it in sort of 3.0 mode?
Everyone point and laugh at @steel stream who got himself muted for trying to say movies 3 times 😆

are you asking about a 3.0/3.1 setup?
Yeah I mean, its not common. My dad is still doing this because he can't be bothered to work out a surround solution after living there for 15 years.
no, I'm asking in what combination of source channel mode and actual speakers would tv as center speaker make sense
This is a bizarre listing. Zero description of what is in it.
not the TV as a center channel thing, he's got a proper center channel, but just not having any surrounds
good news, I found out that a problem I was having with an H87 board and power states was just old Intel ME being broken and needing an update
if you have stereo source, then it does nothing. if you have 5.1 source, then either it routes to your 5.1/5.0 setup, or is combined to 2.0
TV as a channel almost never makes sense
I don't really understand the question. If you were using exteral 2.1/2.0 speakers already and you maybe wanted to experiment with moving dialog to a more centalized speaker, some TV' just offer that as an option

based on some AI voice separation model to extract dialog from stereo audio?
Wtf.... what
if you have a stereo source, you can't just "send dialogue to center speaker" without doing some advanced processing to first separate the dialog from the rest of the audio

If you're running audio through an ai model, you'd use the digital file, not an analog speaker out
well presumably you'd be connected to the externals over S/PDIF so either old school Pro Logic would seperate out vocals or if true multichannel, your tracks are provided for you
i guess he's asking in say a stereo situation, what is making the decision to send to each channel
and the answer, at least for Dolby, was ProLogic/II
accurate listing
Most accurate ever
I have served my sentence
I mean, maybe?
On 2 channel source, to make it 3, it'd just filter between X and Y frequencies and pump those to the center
akn loves edge lit lcds with all his heart
yeah I mean a simplified explanation for what ProLogic would do
(At)mod!!!
there isn't really any frequency ranges unique to human voice though, so that wouldn't really be "dialogue" channel, but just function like, say, a tweeter on a speaker
Just time me out around 6:00 pm so I actually go to my exam
5600x is (from what it seems like) out of stock, doubt it'll get back in stock anytime soon 💔
Will either need to switch to Intel, or risk it with used processors
In 2000, Dolby introduced Dolby Pro Logic II (DPL II), an improved implementation of Dolby Pro Logic created by Jim Fosgate.[4] DPL II processes any high-quality stereo signal source into five separate full frequency channels (right front, center, left front, right rear and left rear), while also decoding five channels from stereo signals encoded in traditional four-channel Dolby Surround. DPL II implements greatly enhanced steering compared to DPL, and as a result, offers an exceptionally stable sound field that simulates five-channel surround sound.
Yup. Which is about the best you'll get on a 2 channel source audio without a ton of preprocessing work. Not something to expect during live playback
why u get muted
you should type the same word in a row 3 times in separate messages
jerry does this all the time
No
HAH
Lololol
and he's gone
Again
who is gone
it was part of the discussion! trying to edumacate the children
my 08 receiver did this for some audio sources and it made me lose my mind
I wonder how it could possible decide how to distribute some sound between front and rear
yeah man like any recevier from the 2000's would default to PLII for stereo sources if it knew you had 5.1 speakers
unless you specifically set stereo only
if I changed the settings or something, I would hear dialogue behind me when it shouldn't be. I had to put my ears right up to the speakers and figure it out
one guy walks in from the front in the movie. the other guy walks in from behind the camera. it's not like based on stereo audio alone you can tell that the first footsteps should come from front speakers and the second ones from the rear
ProLogic can do even more.
The Dolby Pro Logic IIx system, available since 2003, can take two-channel stereo, Dolby Surround (sometimes called Dolby Stereo Surround) and Dolby Digital 5.1 source material and up-convert it to 6.1 or 7.1 channel surround sound.
or snake oil
yeah that would be near impossible to do
like those headphones that claim they magically turn stereo input into "surround sound"
ugh
would need something watching the video and then deciding where audio goes
this stuff does work, been playing with it since the early 2000's. I can't explain how but it very much so functions
you can often tell if a feature is snake oil based on whether actual professional equipment has it or not 
it's cool and all, but man I hate upmixing
don't really need upmixing anyway since I'm always gonna stay on 2.0 or 2.1
you sound younger and completely out of the loop with the advancements of home theater since the 90's.
yes, professional equipment isn't used in home theaters, you've cracked the code
I am sorry for your loss
ok this explains everything then
it's not loss, stereo is superior for music, especially if given the same budget
0.o
who's talking about music?
I know my messages got taken down, but this has been clearly been about surround formats, and uh movies
ok did not get muted for that one
now excuse me while I go find out why my radiators are squeeling in my office
So it's both capable of providing 5 channel surround, AND decoding stereo 4 channel into said 5 channel?
this was the explanation for why I don't get surround speakers. because I use the speakers mainly for music. that's the context
I am not really informed on Audio, but this sort of enhancement in audio technology sounds exciting - especially for the turn of the millenia
depending on the generation and version, its capable of a lot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Pro_Logic
Dolby Pro Logic is a surround sound processing technology developed by Dolby Laboratories, designed to decode soundtracks encoded with Dolby Surround. The terms Dolby Stereo and LtRt (Left Total, Right Total) are also used to describe soundtracks that are encoded using this technique.
Dolby Stereo—also known as Dolby MP (Motion Picture) or Do...
DSP's are ever evolving and can do some wild stuff
but don't forget, rando who's never heard surround done well thinks its bad
maybe if I get a nicer system I would use upmixing, but the current 7.1.4 setup I run is sweet
4 channel to 5 sort of makes more sense than 2 to 5 tbh. since center speaker is often for certain types of sound rather than position. you can't really reconstruct position from stereo, but you can make a guess on whether something would likely have been assigned to center speaker
Dolby Pro Logic was introduced in 1982????!!!
That's older than first generation IRCCM oh wow
oh I should have looked for Dolby internships that would have been cool
Yes. Stereo tracks were actually crudely encoded in a way that, in the articles words, could be 'unfolded' into 4 channels
I mean then it's not really plain stereo if it's intentionally designed to be "unfoldable"
then it's similar to things like the MQA stuff that was also designed to "unfold"
if you're curious how all that worked, you could just read the article instead of just assuming none of it works becuase you don't understand how
just a thought
I mean of course it works if the audio is specially crafted for that
if the information is there, it can be extracted
Yeah I am reading it on the wiki - If I got this right, that was first introduced on the Dolby MP Matrix?
Wait, no, that encodes 4 channels into 2
which is then decoded back into 4.
I think the feature I am trying to reference is what's commercially called the Dolby Surround??
if it had to do this hypothetical stereo upmix, I supposed I would use the center as a mono channel, but probably at a lower volume compared to the left and right so you still have some directionality
Though here, it says first generation Dolby Surround from 1982 was three channel
Left, Right, and I think Mono is supposed to mean front/centre?
are you referencing my message? or the article
The Wikipedia article
So, three effective channels?
yeah
You can most probably get away with using the actual first generation Dolby Surround system from 1982 for that LOL
It's allegedly capable / encoded for 4 channel, but in reality was packaged with 3
yeah from reading that's practically what it sounds like
Audio stuff is fun I should read more about all this
it's very cool stuff
Could definitely make use of it further than just learning..
I could probably set up something in my room for surround,,,
@topaz veldt so the comet is just a big pop?
I had a surround setup in my dorm last year, it's fun to have
Duly noted!
why is this face so funny to me in arc
it wasn't anything crazy, just an old setup from 2008, so all I had was those older dolby formats, but it's still cool
he has anikans face
and expression
This one
if you turn off ur pc, you will unlock an easter egg
free overclock?
an extra 3ghz, 4 cores and a gpu on par with a 5090
dude let’s go i’m unplugging it right now
it’s not starting, is it memory training?
its epic gamer training
it takes 420 days and it must have 2L of mountain dew
too late now
yes but insane-o explosion
like instas-knock out
is thier a limit on legnth of usb c to c cables, and are their different types, to be aware of when trying to get one for a xbox series x controller
yes and yes
man oh man
care to elaborate?
for an Xbox controller, I don't think it really should matter. It only starts to matter when you go to look at super high data transfer rates or power delivery capabilities
basically just get one from a reputable brand with decent reviews and you should be good
then why would you say yes, then say it shouldnt matter?
because I read your question wrong tbh
I saw the first two statements, but did not read "to be aware of"
whoops, my bad
I have a 20 ft or something USB extension cable. It's not been used in years and I don't recall how reliable it was
https://www.amazon.com/ULT-WIIQ-Charging-Transfer-Monitor-Samsung/dp/B0DDX4XL49/ref=sr_1_2_sspa smth like this would probably be fine
This is true
My roommate has a 50 meter optical thunderbolt cable
must have cost a fortune
I think like $430
jesus
The difference in price between the shortest and longest versions was only $50 or $70
Most of the money is in the connectors
The motherboard was also like $450
ProArt?
Z790, yes
I should start looking at stuff on FBMP
god I'm good
Wanted those displayport injectors
Mrs. 5nail5 got her bonus 😬
btw I think @merry stirrup suggested steelseries desk mat maybe, either way - so far so good
YAH
if it had Postcodes I would be buying protart mobos all the time
@low sorrel very interesting, deadline needs the new guy part
I think LTT even has a video about cheap home audio stuff
new car money?
Never once needed it on his system
13700K whatever factory bios defaulted to
No instability 😎
Well that makes things even easier
please make post codes a standard
I barely use mine, but if I am paying for a nice mobo I want it
i had an insane setup for when i was doing a couple benches for the oc comp
90% of the time I look up a post code in a mobo manual, it turns out to be an undocumented one
camera pointed at it, overlayed thru obs
overclocking mini map fr, didnt have to look away
Dual DP input isn't exactly common so choice was limited
This is so true
yeah yeah
all i care is if its memory training
Almost every time I look up a post code "this is useless"
you guys are the reason $600 motherboards don’t have 5 cent post code readers
on the topic of post codes, it would be cool if consumer mobos had some post code history as well, the way server ones do
I dunno what - just, they applied a multiplier on top of > 2.0X - fucking insane
you’re complacent.
deadass
look at what the wolfpack needs
I should try OCing once this i7 4770 is no longer my main processor
See how high it goes before I brick the system
you will hit temperature limits before breaking anything
holy cow
Polaris go brrrr
still only sits at about 71c on my test bench with a rinky dink little cooler so i’m fine w it
hit 1030mv before crashing at 1015 so i set it to 1040
what is your practical use for this again?
So dual DP input to inject into the TB outputs
how does this work with multimonitor?
is each input linked to only one of the outputs?
woooow ok so while I think that sucks... people were going into rounds with like 15 wolfpacks
true
vitaspray needs a tickpod now
dude the new hurriance condition is insane for loot
i just came out of raid with a tempest 2, ren 4, ven 2, ren 2, anvil bp and vita spray bp
So according to the mobo manual, it claims if you use both DP injectors, you get 2 display signals sent out via the thunderbolt connection
yeah i'm just trying to work out the output side
like is each input corresponding to only one output
so its one display signal per TB/USB4 connector
@edgy laurel I have had my windows in my office open all day - have that mild winter breeze, someone has a fireplace going... the life
So we weren't sure if we wanted a thunderbolt dock at both stations his desktop is used, dual injectors solves for this to make sure no iGPU passthrough has to be dealt with
In practice, we have not used this configuration
Oh on the output the dock just does 2 displays
Fuck if I know how it works
Total bandwidth? Does it send 2 DP signals through it? Beats me
I bet we can do a third display since the docks support it iirc
He uses a 2160p240 and 1440p165 with it
so, this blizzard.. i feel like the snow two-three weeks ago was worse
Although, I don't know if he gets full 240 on the 4k
it was WAY colder
ok wow this is confusing me
wait, no it doesn't
ok this is easy
Also another flaw to our original plan: the PC would always be near one of the setups, so we can (and do) just wire the tv directly to gpu
Actually, maybe I should try using dual thunderbolt docks
No way it can be less reliable than single thunderbolt dock
Right?
so each TB output is mapped one of the inputs, 1:1. I'm still having a hard to figuring out where that would be used other than dual Type C only monitors
lemme re-read what you're explaining lol
so he's connected to two docks at one time?
Not currently
PC is next to TV and all inputs for that are direct connected
We then run optical thunderbolt to his desk
yeah for sure - I think because of the temps
Run 2 displays and peripherals over a single thunderbolt cable at his desk
We have considering changing the TV setup to a thunderbolt dock, but have not acted upon it
ok so end goal is just having TB output with video so it can be run to the TV
which could be done with only one DP input on the board
It gives flexibility
But yes, the actual way we use it is fine with single DP injector
I bought another cable to try my stupid rear ports on Mac mini
And this is all just to avoid passing through to iGPU which is probably a good enough experience
software update breaking them doesn't inspire confidence that its a cable issue
Yeah so my USB4 outputs are linked to only the iGPU, no inputs on this board
I think the newest iteration Proart boards only do single injector
Oh my
man I shared that 4K AV1 Mincraft video I have in TC1 and none of them can play it back 🤣
Z890 Proart has thunderbolt 5 integrated
if any board would get TB5 first, it would probably be that one
I still have yet to see any real world implementation of TB5's asymetrical 120Gb/s mode
like butter
yeah I am very curious about this
also how does that work if DP itself can't do it
Thunderbolt 5 rollout has been super slow thus far
I guess TB4 was accelerated since it was basically just TB3 with a minor revision
wasn't that mode made for displays?
DSC 🤷♂️
Yeah but like, isn't the DP signal whats being tunnled over TB?
I don't know, once you introduce TB into things, standards get wonky
unless we have a standard above UHBR20 (80Gbs), thats integrated into a display that supports the 120Gb/s mode, i don't know how its working
maybe there just isn't anything that exists yet
I would bet it's just this
ya
and if we do get standards above UHBR20, will they become available over normal DP
and not require TB5 to connect to these super high res/refresh displays
The z890 Proart has an entire manual about how to use TB5 display connections
I'm guessing hubs just act as daisy chain for multiple displays?
I can probably Google that
Discord really ain't a search engine
jorj what
Jorj, that game is for 10 year olds and like criminal adults that want to hang out with the little kids
roblox is funny asf
its an adult game too but people use it to talk to kids
?
thats like saying minecraft is a kids game
That's one way to say it
yeah
yea
ye
wym
whatever happened to BIOOICCCCCCC
Good
But biostar told me biostar makes the best boards
Let's see if they can blow up more CPUs than ASRock
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just installed the pa120, what a pain in the ass for real
are you kidding
he's in #audio-tech spewing stuff not even I can comprehend

well. Maybe the mounting system is bad for whatever socket haswell is on
i don’t think they qa the mounting stuff a ton
my spirit evo was more poorly machined than my pa mini was
I mean how much QA is there to do on mounting hardware? Either it lines up or it doesn’t.
the dual drilled holes on mine were the issue
it kept sliding into the other hole and misaligning
skill issue
i threw that cooler away
this was kind of annoying but it was mostly that the two actual screw mounts for the tower wouldn’t line up
literally took 5 minutes just to get them both to actually seat
honestly the lf3 is still the crown of crappiest install method to me
Audio speak is like a foreign language to me

i think the hyper 212 is underappreciated for pain-in-the-ass-ness
i may have overdone it on the mousepad my room still smells like dawn dish doap
oh wow, the pa120 is remarkably effective at cooling though
4790k at stock hits 63 in cinebench
Is dawn supposed to be "fancy"?
Ok then just expensive
Is it expensive?
like 4 bucks
It's just detergent
dawn is for the ducks
Your bank account must be on death's doorstep if Dawn is considered expensive
this is actually much better than i expected tbf
Store brand ftw
well sweet. that gives me lots of OC room temp wise
I get Mrs Meyers
bro
no thats the bad one you need the ultra platinum premium plus deluxe 2
i get the ultra platinum premium plus deluxe 2 dawn dish soap
its the same price
that's why I use it as body wash, if its good enough for the ducks its good enough for me
what happens when i order a singular dollar of soap for today delivery
Agree. Genuinely ass. Slightly less ass on Intel.
you need the dawn ultra platinum advanced power 4x soap for that
i got so mad at my lf3 i swapped the cooler in my girls parts list
because i wasn't putting her though that shit
LF3 is on my “do not buy” list. Hate to say it.
that one doesn''t have a duck on it though
make sure youre getting the 4x power soap not the 4x faster soap biiiig difference
Arctic fell off hard
i swear walmart has an entire fucking aisle dedicated to dawn dish soap
but god damnit i love ducks
clean the ducks 🐐
My LF3 was significantly louder after 6 months vs new. Super disappointing
Nearly double the price per fluid ounce
yeah that would matter to me if we weren't talking about a $10 67oz bottle of soap
i’m getting 5062 stock in r23 at 64-65c on the stock fan curve (posting this so i can look back at it later)
how much soap are you using to drain the refill jug fast enough to need to cost savings on dish liquid
no actually are there like fda guidelines on what you can and cant call soap
like I said, body wash
soap has to have lye in it yeah
but I still go for Dawn
i could go for some pastrami on marble rye
My oil spills on the driveway....
for body wash i use some stuff its like citrus and ginger and it smells like oranges and i like oranges and i like smelling like oranges so i use that
its proper body wash soap its just scented like citrus and ginger
oh i don't drive a bmw
Same
i like when i peel an orange and then my hands smell like orange from the orange that i peeled so i try to replicate that as often as possible
interesting sentiment
dude that orange soap is elite
just a top tier fruit all around i would say
you wash your hands with this soap and they feel dirtier than when they started
citrus or vanilla scents on top
I just drive a 32 year old GM car and do messy diy oil changes
its citrus, ginger, and whatever the fuck sea buckthorn is
sounds made up
i feel like that's a skill issue because i swap my oil at home without spilling half the contents
like blue raspberry
oh this is sea buckthorn
sea buckthorn is delicious
people make orange juice out of it apparently
and wait how often are you doing your oil (and spilling it) to need to save on dish liquid 😭
once a day before every drive gotta keep it fresh its like taking a shower but for your car
Before it was magically losing oil 2-3 times a year, now I put some magic liquid moly oil saver it's once a year or 4kish miles
we ignore the fact I lost like 3 liters when I cross threaded the filter and flooded the driveway last year
You're doing it wrong - you don't use water
oof
And it was in the winter so I couldn't use soap and water to clean it off
Just sand box sand
ik #1027757333117415424 exists
why does my pc turn on and then once i turn it off and its been a while then it doesn’t turn back on until i take out the cmos and put it in again?
now everytime i put in the cmos battery and the power button my motherboard light only comes on for half a second and turns off and the pc doesn’t turn on
the psu i have is from a prebuilt but i upgraded the entire pc except the psu should i upgrade now?
Buy a new PC ez fix.
