tech-chat-2

[merry stirrup]

i think on the 580 the vram and core are handled bt the same one

look how close on this example

in between those bottom most vram chips is the controller

then right there is the power delivery itself

[brave panther]

this might be it on your mobo

[civic reef]

What a tiny pwm, lmao

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[civic reef]

Is there any benefit or drawback to having it so close

[brave panther]

too shitty of a photo to check datasheet

[merry stirrup]

and what this? doublers on my vrm?

(yes)

[merry stirrup]

probably, but none i could point out to you other than latency and voltage drop across pcb

[civic reef]

Where are they?

[merry stirrup]

black squares in a line

so this vrm is likely a dual loop because i think it handles vram

so i assume this is a 4+2 configurable or something

[brave panther]

what they do:

[merry stirrup]

so this is a 3 phase vcore

doubled to 6

with one or two phases for the memory

[civic reef]

Oh
So takes one input, and divides evenly into multiple outputs?

[merry stirrup]

and memory is not doubled

[brave panther]

yes but outputs are not in sync

[merry stirrup]

so if someone (the one who is trying to learn here)

[wraith steeple]

Takes me back when mobos had onboard molex connections

[merry stirrup]

wants to google the data sheet on my 580 and see if my assumptions are right

[civic reef]

I don't see any doubled up black chips, so yeah.. No doublers it seems,,

[brave panther]

they are staggered so they provide even power

[merry stirrup]

out of phase yeah

woooh yeah woooh phases yeah

NCP81022N

[civic reef]

Doesn't look even to me in the case of PWM1A compared to 1C & 1D

[merry stirrup]

ah i got close

[civic reef]

Same crest but not the same amount of spikes

[merry stirrup]

it’s a 4+1 dual loop vrm

so vcore is doubled from 3 phases and they give the ram its 2

from vcore and memory side ig?

maybe ram is doubled cause it’s got 2 phases but it’s a 4+1

who knows i got close just by looking at the damn thing

[civic reef]

These are all such complicated topics for me but I am glad I am learning

[merry stirrup]

it’s not too hard to get to that point

[merry stirrup]

dual loop means that it’s just 2 vrms

[civic reef]

I'll need to watch some stuff about mosfets and power delivery in general but this is cool

Thank you Floppa, Kyoko, and Martin :>

[merry stirrup]

yess

just wait till you’re looking up datasheets on controllers to get voltage control

[civic reef]

Now the hunt to find my detailed power delivery ensues

[merry stirrup]

and diying circuits for mods

[civic reef]

One second, bringing my PC to bed and removing the glass panel

[civic reef]

Too far for me right now, I'd rather not burn everything

I don't have a fire extinguisher in here, only one in the car

... Which is a safety hazard

Should address that alongside the lack of an air purifier in my 64 AQI corner of the world

Oh my, this is odd

Seems like I have one of those black boxes and a VRM to the right of the DIMMs

[brave panther]

If you want to understand it you have to start from basics
Resistors, capacitors, inductors
Then simple silicon
Diode, transistor, mosfet
Then ic
Op amps, digital logic
Then microcontrollers

[civic reef]

Capacitors and resistors I know the basics of

Resistors, well, resist, with either set or variable ohmages (is that what it's called? Ohmage? Or is there a different word for that version of the word ohm?)

Capacitors act as tiny batteries

[steel stream]

resistance is measured in ohms

the symbol is uppercase Omega

[brave panther]

yes and then on exam you get this

[merry stirrup]

final answer: 1

[steel stream]

Wrong: reason forgot units

[merry stirrup]

every unit

[brave panther]

you got I6 correct

[merry stirrup]

i’m goated thank me later

[civic reef]

Too advanced for me

I am still barely getting into multiple generators/receivers

Also I don't think I can identify my pwm

Too far to see it, and too tiny

[shell void]

@edgy laurel i have observed an interesting thing; DLSS Preset M is more stable on fences, railings, benches, stairs, and other objects with fine edges, or porosity when running Performance mode instead of Quality

this is true in Cyberpunk, Fortnite, and GTA 5 Enhanced

[brave panther]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-professor-hubert-farnsworth-eyes-gif-3592844138789763180

[shell void]

im not sure why this is, but it's convenient for us i suppose

[merry stirrup]

on your board it may just be a tiny little 8 pin guy

[civic reef]

On another point should I move this fan to right over my cooler

[civic reef]

Oh no I mean, identify the writing on it

[brave panther]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

dear lord, cable manage those cables

[merry stirrup]

oh i see

just use hwinfo lol

[steel stream]

very interesting indeed

[civic reef]

Topic for another day, I don't plan on keeping this cases long enough to manage the cables on it

[brave panther]

where is it?

[civic reef]

Planning to switch out by Q2 of 2027 to this

Message delay, ugh

[civic reef]

Will do once I can turn it on tomorrow

[pure garnet]

q2 of 2027???

[civic reef]

Anyway, should I?

[civic reef]

I don't earn much

And I've lots of stuff to buy first

[brave panther]

case dont improve performance so do it only if you really care

[merry stirrup]

sensors

then find your vcore vout or your vrm pout

then the sensor name in hwinfo is likely your voltage/pwm controller

[civic reef]

It would introduce air right into the Heatsink

Would work with the fan pulling the air out of it

[civic reef]

Oh wait shouldn't be that far
I canceled the laptop purchase

[merry stirrup]

remember cooling only needs to be as good as it needs to be

overkill doesn’t gain you nothing

[merry stirrup]

.

2 controllers on my board, both labeled

Renesas RAA229130

[civic reef]

-There's tensions between two countries near me, you know who, and I don't think paying for a laptop whilst taking refuge somewhere would be a great idea

[civic reef]

• saving for a good laptop without any financing will take a while

[cosmic gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/there-is-no-war-in-ba-sing-se-avatar-the-last-airbender-atla-no-war-there-is-no-war-gif-15884087966518847999

[civic reef]

Making cooling easier would just help probably

[brave panther]

maybe this, i dont have two

[merry stirrup]

keep goin down

close

actually that works yeah that si t

wait no thats io

yeah keep goin down a lil more

find vrm temps or vrVout or etc

[merry stirrup]

(just monitoring)

mines right under that

[civic reef]

Also I think the two fans are fighting each other in air pathway

[brave panther]

yea i dont have that, closest is that nuvoton one

[civic reef]

Top fan is disrupting the front fan's airflow

[merry stirrup]

odd, are you on the latest hwinfo?

[cosmic gazelle]

are they both exhaust?

[merry stirrup]

not close

[brave panther]

ight ill update

[civic reef]

Intake

Only exhaust is rear

Case is on positive pressure

[brave panther]

i dont see any diffrence

[merry stirrup]

strange

[shell void]

i’m planning to upgrade my computer at some time between now and Q1 2030

[merry stirrup]

maybe amd/intel thing

or just up to specific board

[civic reef]

I am not kidding that's the time I have free cash to upgrade

60 a month salary really isn't that nice for quick upgrades 💔

[merry stirrup]

keep goin down thats io/monitoring

[brave panther]

is your controller visible in smbus?

[civic reef]

Also good thing I have HWInfo installed already

[merry stirrup]

should be not much below that

[cosmic gazelle]

it's actually wild how much better the 8600g at 85-90 watts performs with the same igpu vs my laptop capped at 45 watts

[merry stirrup]

yes it is an i2c fully digital controller

how hwinfo is getting any readings at all

but i would assume your controller is also fully digital and i2c/smbus

[steel stream]

planning to upgrade at some time between now and the eventual heat death of the universe, will have to see though

[pure garnet]

mine is way shitter but this?

[brave panther]

maybe i need to update bios lol

[merry stirrup]

so its probably either hwinfo not having support for your specific controller, or on your board those are locked for some reason

[merry stirrup]

nah should say like renesas or infineon or richtek

should be able to read vrm temps

[pure garnet]

i think that's more a nicer board thing that has an ec for it

[merry stirrup]

idk most of my boards that i remember have it

[cosmic gazelle]

i'm on a b650e tuf and don't have that either

[merry stirrup]

b650e for sure should have it

[pure garnet]

hwinfo labels that nuc thing as a microcontroller

[merry stirrup]

enable asus ec controller in hwinfo

[brave panther]

so maybe its amd thing

[merry stirrup]

could be yeah

[pure garnet]

lemme fire up the mpowa

[merry stirrup]

i am mostly intel, so

[cosmic gazelle]

oh i have to enable it ok

[merry stirrup]

yeah normally you get a popup inhwinfo talking about asus ec

so ec theory is making sense but only asus has that option in hwinfo so idk

[cosmic gazelle]

wonder how i can re enable it

[merry stirrup]

uhhhhhhhh

[pure garnet]

yeah this is the msi equiv

[merry stirrup]

weird

[pure garnet]

ebay ec

[merry stirrup]

thats not any of the vrm stats so

interesting i guess theres more to it than i originally thought

[pure garnet]

the nicer boards from msi might report vrm stuff to their ec

[pure garnet]

@shell void do you have anything in hwinfo

[merry stirrup]

1

[pure garnet]

bc the mlg and the mpower are both fairly low tier boards

[merry stirrup]

i know this is not an exclusive thing to my ocf i just dont have screenshots 😭

[pure garnet]

im not saying it is

[merry stirrup]

i see the sensors im talking about on whatever board i had 05/11/2025

[pure garnet]

i'm just saying the asrock livemixer and the cheap msi boards i have likely do not have the ec for hwinfo to read out

[cosmic gazelle]

mine looks exactly the same as this

[merry stirrup]

so either mpower or edge

just barely but i see vr vin

[pure garnet]

if you mean the bottom of that screenshot that's a drive

[merry stirrup]

no direct top

this says VR VIN

[pure garnet]

i can boot the z790 mpower some point later to check

[merry stirrup]

cant be the ocf cause i my sensor before ram isnt vr vin

[pure garnet]

but yeah my crappy ec is in the right spot then

[civic reef]

Yeah it's honestly quite interesting how just extra wattage can transform an iGPU

[pure garnet]

it just doesn't expose power delivery info

[merry stirrup]

strange

what an L cause im sure your controller supports it

[civic reef]

Or even dGPUs in general depending on the model

[wise bear]

Not bad for 3 hard drives

[civic reef]

What am I looking at, ma'am?

[wise bear]

speeds of reads

off of a raid z1

[civic reef]

Combined across 3 drives?

[wise bear]

of 3x 8tb drives

[merry stirrup]

this has got to be just cause of my cache rn lol

[steel stream]

no, bad.

[cosmic gazelle]

just lets you do hands-free screwing to avoid breaking covid restrictions

[brave panther]

nah just ugga dugga it

[civic reef]

Seems to be 3.5 Gbits per drive

[pure garnet]

looks like a bog standard msi reports useless information

[merry stirrup]

this is still the io chip

[civic reef]

Atleast according to what I calculated

1.31 x 8

10.48 ÷ 3

Wait no that's already Gigabyte

[merry stirrup]

youre polling the nuvoton

[brave panther]

https://youtu.be/7xLAop5qTo0?t=2498
how i torque wrench things

[civic reef]

Anyway gotta go sleep now
Civil Education exam tomorrow

Goodnight people

[merry stirrup]

just found somones random ass screenshot of hwinfo on their x570 and they have the sensors im yapping about

[pure garnet]

i think i’ll go asus next board

would rather have the useless accumulated wattage all time reporting over missing reporting

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[cosmic gazelle]

i kinda thought that vrm temps were standard reporting metrics

[merry stirrup]

another one

sees it on this asus board (its the ASP one) but not the sensors i was using to find it

[merry stirrup]

it is but sometimes its up to the vrm controller itself or alternative controllers with like a thermistor

[cosmic gazelle]

do you think the ud5h will report vrm temps (assuming it works in the first place)

not that a 12 phase vrm will even need to be monitored on an 88 watt chip i was more so just saying age wise

[hoary hatch]

And just like that, math content is dead

[steel stream]

RIP

the channels really fallen off now

[scarlet iron]

What have i missed

[south shuttle]

clickbait math video

[wise bear]

I have surpassed 10k episodes

[steel stream]

god damn

how much storage does all that take up?

[wise bear]

Honestly not much

[steel stream]

I'm at about 10TB used, 300 movies maybe 15 shows?

[wraith steeple]

[wise bear]

SO MUCH

[wraith steeple]

My Intel system has the same amount of storage as the Ganymede system

[steel stream]

my issue is 4K movies using just a wee bit of space

[shell void]

man i only have around a terabyte im a noob

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/really-man-of-your-talents-man-of-your-talents-really-talents-rogue-one-gif-14903960019993570617

[pure garnet]

i have 2tb but i don't have smb for it bc i don't need it

[steel stream]

in my actual system I think I have 3tb?

yeah one 1TB and one 2TB

[wraith steeple]

4 m.2s (x2 1TB, a 2TB, and a 4TB)

[rotund rock]

i got 1tb in this potato

[steel stream]

my laptops at 1.5TB

[wise bear]

I have 14(?) tb total of nvme and 18~tb of spinny server storage

[analog plover]

Why do you have a google drive😭

[wise bear]

because I use gdrive

it's $10/mo for 2tb of cloud backup, it's worth

[analog plover]

Fair enough

[wise bear]

I also pay mmicrosoft $2/mo for 100gb of onedrive for critical secondary backups

[cosmic gazelle]

i didn’t even know until now that they made 5080 noctua edition

[rotund rock]

i can also connect google drive but im broke

[wise bear]

https://jobs.mchire.com/

[analog plover]

I want one it’s just insanely expensive and it’s huge

[wraith steeple]

@steel stream I could use that m.2 card that came with our Z890 Nova if prices for m.2s didn't skyrocket

[analog plover]

Who is this for?😭

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-gif-22055472

[rotund rock]

a microsoft account on linux seems very wrong 😂

[wise bear]

most of yall tbh

[analog plover]

Bruh

[wise bear]

not really. there's azure, m365, various cloud services, workgroups..

[steel stream]

do you know if red lobster is hiring? I'd rather work there

[rotund rock]

fair

[wise bear]

I don't have their hiring URL memorized, sorry

[analog plover]

Fast food places are always hiring nowadays lol

[steel stream]

:(

[wise bear]

:3

6c/12t

[steel stream]

I am actually already employed lol

[wise bear]

AND I finally got a deployment of jellyfin on docker to fuCKING WORK

[analog plover]

In fast food?

[cosmic gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/larp-gif-3557207383533596840

[steel stream]

no

[analog plover]

Kool

[pure garnet]

mchire W

[rotund rock]

what the heck

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-bryan-cranston-season4-episode4-gif-3518780

[indigo walrus]

Jellyfin on Docker (on a Synology NAS in my case) is soooo nice. Combine this with my media backup system auto-organizing content by type (movie, TV show, anime, etc.) and Jellyfin's nightly library scans and it's like the best media server since the original XBMC / Kodi over 20 years ago.

[wise bear]

no longer do I have to host the jellyfin server on windows and have it read from a network share!!

its just ONE FUCKIN BOX

I also have a new smoke extraction system for the office

[steel stream]

I have to host both Plex and Jellyfin, some of my movies prefer playing on one as opposed to the other

[wise bear]

It's very overkill

[indigo walrus]

you're not supposed to light the office on fire... I thought we've been over this before!

[wise bear]

But I smoke so much weeeeed in hereeee

if I keep my office negative pressure to the rest of the house I'm constantly drawing in cooler air from the rest of the house, and I can add filtration to the door

[steel stream]

we need nvidia to rerelease the shield so I can have better media box opposed to a firestick (massive hopium)

[indigo walrus]

I've always wondered... but then Plex's multiple changes to their pricing structure over the years always reminds me why I refuse to spin up an instance. Does Plex handle certain codecs better for you? Or is it more of an ease of configuration for certain stubborn media formats?

[steel stream]

I prefer jellyfins UI, but it's got issues with some of my Dolby Vision files

[wise bear]

(seriously though if yall have a/v or grow tent or ventilation projects go look at ac infinity on amazon they're fuggin' dope)

[indigo walrus]

Ah right, Dolby Vision stuff being persnickity makes sense.

[steel stream]

which I wonder have been resolved with updates

[indigo walrus]

I mean... technically they did. Twice. (Nintendo Switch 1 & 2 are just nVidia Shield tablets running a craptastic OS.)

[steel stream]

so what I am hearing is I need to jailbreak the fuck out of a switch 2

[indigo walrus]

Pretty much. If they 1) weren't so expensive and 2) were something you actually own after purchase (if you can't run custom software on it, you don't own it), I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

[wise bear]

time to commit murder in norvinsk :D

[steel stream]

I wanted to buy a switch, but a firestick does pretty much the same things I need it to do but for like $30

But firesticks suck balllssssss

[lethal topaz]

incredible :D

[lethal topaz]

what about the fire cube

[steel stream]

still sucky, but also does not support audio and video passthrough on the same level that the Firestick max does

[lethal topaz]

thats unfortunate

[steel stream]

video and audio support is a nightmare

[lethal topaz]

its all meant for the slop streaming services

no one cares anyway

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/dobby-gif-22195730

[lethal topaz]

thanks i will keep that one

[steel stream]

yeah it's a hard one to find

[lethal topaz]

heres one i found recently

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/652270670868119553/1475009446664081448/anime-car.gif

[steel stream]

that's quite the gif

[lethal topaz]

lets see paul allens gif

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/no-come-on-nah-jack-black-nacho-gif-24343903

[edgy laurel]

Doing the lords work, sir.

[edgy laurel]

hmm

[edgy laurel]

great gif

[merry stirrup]

SEE

IM NOT CRAZY

it’s just board specific fr tho ig

[edgy laurel]

wait what

looks like 2 chips being used, 2 of each

but clearly only 3 of them for actual power regulation

[woven osprey]

Quick driver related question.
I had issues with my latest Nvidia Driver, likely crashed my PC with games such as ArmA Reforger & BF6 multiple times, it would just blackscreen and restart but only on those two after a few minutes.
Ran DDU, uninstalled my GPU driver.
Now I want to reinstall a driver (duh) but I'm wondering which GeForce driver is most reliable and functional w/ MSI RTX5090?

[edgy laurel]

There are no known issues with any recent driver that would cause what you're experiencing.

[eager elm]

could anyone recommend me nice closed back headphones primarely for gaming for around 160 usd

[woven osprey]

I ran experimental for DLSS 4.5 and that worked really well. Then I installed the latest drivers and then the issues started.

I think the swap from experimental to latest messed something up

[merry stirrup]

no

[edgy laurel]

Not sure what experimental is. Most of us here are just on whatever the latest is, and there are a number of 5090 users.

[merry stirrup]

just different reporting. it’s hard to explain

they have multiple i2c buses or whatever

hwinfo labels each bus a different device

[edgy laurel]

ohh, so there aren't 4 physical chips?

[merry stirrup]

hence the duplicate

no, just one of each

[edgy laurel]

ah

[woven osprey]

My first crash on BF6 in the event viewer gave me

IMAGE_NAME: eaanticheat.sys
PROCESS_NAME: bf6.exe```
So I reinstalled anticheat, that wasn't the fix.

Afterwards it crashed again with this;
```The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x000000d1 (0x00000007ff74b5a0, 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000008, 0x00000007ff74b5a0). A dump was saved in: C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\022226-15843-01.dmp. Report Id: 88e43084-8b6e-4dcb-a11b-f4424be60c06.```

[merry stirrup]

you can google them and based off phase count you can determine their function

or just put a load on the cpu and whatever one is highest is the cpu vcore

[edgy laurel]

You've got a lot of troubleshooting to do, from verifying your OS is clean, RAM health, PSU health, etc.. Better suited to #1027757333117415424

[merry stirrup]

mmmm it’s always ram

if it’s not you drivers it’s always ram

hate those stupid capacitors

[woven osprey]

Everything is relatively new, OS and such is from September, full clean reinstall.
Parts are all between 1-2 years old, brand new too.

[edgy laurel]

being brand new has next to zero impact in their operational health

do games crash with that GPU in another system? What about with a different GPU in your system?

Do they crash with XMP/EXPO off?

just throwing out some of the testing you'll need to do

also if AMD, is PBO on? What about with it off?

[woven osprey]

Well the only issue is BF6, plethora of other games do not have any issues at all and never cause a blackscreen.
XMP is on.

Nvidia / intel only

I'll try downloading the latest drivers again and giving it another shot just in case that was the issue.

[merry stirrup]

use DDU to fresh install your drivers

[woven osprey]

I hope not in this economy 🤣

[merry stirrup]

if you dont know what that is, look up DDU guide on youtube and click the one by "MSI USA"

[edgy laurel]

I think they mentioned DDU already

so I assume they know

[woven osprey]

I used DDU already

[merry stirrup]

mkay swag

make sure to do that

[edgy laurel]

oh, 13th or 14th gen?

[woven osprey]

14th gen i7 14700k

[merry stirrup]

m

[woven osprey]

I know big probleme

[merry stirrup]

no

[woven osprey]

But hasn't let me down so far.

[merry stirrup]

its fine we're educated individuals

[woven osprey]

No OC either on anything

[merry stirrup]

but it is something to be weary of

[edgy laurel]

just check your BIOS date, might as well (right in CPU-Z)

[merry stirrup]

i would for sure update da bios yeah, helped my sisters 12700K and it didnt even have issues lol

[woven osprey]

I flashed my BIOS after the 14th gen "fixes'' came out from MSI

Reset it in september

[merry stirrup]

OCCT your ram, then do a variable all core load on your cpu with OCCT as well

lotsa waiting involved for this, the default hour is not really enough for either

id do it at minimum 3 hours based off what other test claims are as a ballpark

memory especially. cpu can probably get away w/an hour and a half

if either of them have errors or both, theres yo problem (if its both i would try just replacing cpu first)

my sisters computer was bugchecking recently as well and it turned out to be physical damage on the board from me/her boyfriend

[woven osprey]

I’ll try out running the game with new drivers.
If that doesn’t work tomorrow will be an eventful tech day

[pure garnet]

(it was floppa)

[merry stirrup]

im the one who built 40 computers

hes built like 2

[woven osprey]

I’ve built 3 computers so far, every 5-8 years.
Upgraded parts along the way.

[merry stirrup]

i think this is the replacement (but ddr5)

[pure garnet]

boy do i have the board for you

the macpower returning from it's cross country voyage

[merry stirrup]

yes

the same 100$ is going to exchange hands 5 times

let a floppa know especially since i may be employed soon

[woven osprey]

It’s strange that these issues are only involving BF6 though.
Helldivers 2 on cranked out settings, War Thunder, Cyberpunk 2077 with Path Tracing enabled to name a few all wor flawlessly without crashing.

[merry stirrup]

bf6 is pretty cpu intensive so it could make sense if it was a CPU issue

same with memory

[edgy laurel]

I have my doubts its an Nvidia issue at all

[merry stirrup]

same

[pure garnet]

when my 13700k died i was just getting giant fps drops in ffxiv

no crashes just like 100 -> 20 drops, ran occt and it kept failing

[steel stream]

I found this a few weeks ago and it's so good, a rare treat when i get to use it

[edgy laurel]

its rare by I favorited that one asap

[merry stirrup]

i am going to be partially disappearing again

my girlfriend comes over for da week

[merry stirrup]

intol inside

[shell void]

you better behave brother it's ramadan

[edgy laurel]

Vietnamese sff enjoyers IRL

[left ermine]

I’m wondering if my computer has killed itself

[merry stirrup]

https://klipy.com/gifs/haram-13

[shell void]

i have a growing urge to make a sff pc and then leave it on my tv to be used like once per month

[pure garnet]

swapped everything but the cpu man

actually i’ve done that twice now

[merry stirrup]

occt was failing on the cpu test and you decided to swap everything but that

[edgy laurel]

you need this. so much tinkering with software to make it just act like an apple tv

[merry stirrup]

denial is a river in egypt

[shell void]

honestly just because it's an excuse to tune a new computer

[edgy laurel]

exactly what I was thinking

[merry stirrup]

i did this just because i wanted to spend money at work one day

wont hold you

[edgy laurel]

ohh, useless but still cool af ITB guy added more detail.

[merry stirrup]

i saw ocf for 329 and went "oh ok"

[edgy laurel]

@topaz veldt

[merry stirrup]

theres like 16 different shades going on

[shell void]

what the hell is that on the ram

[merry stirrup]

ill take this to my previous employer and theyll fix that lickety split

[merry stirrup]

fuckin itb's apparently

[edgy laurel]

a most likely terrible cooler meant to look like individual throttle bodies

[merry stirrup]

its 40mm based so its not even effective i fear

40mm did nothing for me

[pure garnet]

the z690-e was such a cool board

[merry stirrup]

literally nothing

[woven osprey]

After a reinstall it worked fine for like 6 minutes, got into a match and played like normal.
Tons of action and then crashed.
Welp, looks like I’ll be having a tech day tomorrow.

Will my event logs tell me much?

[merry stirrup]

maybe it is with that fancy ducting idk

[merry stirrup]

download whocrashed and click scan

then scroll down and read what it tells you

[edgy laurel]

the silver part is a "velocity stack" but its just decoration in this instance

[merry stirrup]

is this like an intake exhaust scenario or whats he doin with that

if hes just blasting air in only one way i fear its double useless

[edgy laurel]

iirc its just intake

[merry stirrup]

man

relying on the backpressure or whatever as exhaust

GROSS

[edgy laurel]

yeah we talked about it when I posted it the other day. the bottom is just kinda open around the base ofthe RAM

[merry stirrup]

oh ok then its fine

i thought it was more sealed

[edgy laurel]

he says his load temp dropped 10c

[merry stirrup]

bumping up to a single 80mm or like dual 62mm or whatever the size between is called is probably much more beneficial cause static pressure

load temp on the ram or cpu

[edgy laurel]

RAM

[merry stirrup]

seems good enough then, is it heatsinkless?

[topaz veldt]

Sick

[merry stirrup]

if it is then static pressure isnt important

for obvious reasons

[edgy laurel]

i dunno, but man the guy really made the North his whole setup

[merry stirrup]

wowza

weird wrist rest

fw it quite a lot

[woven osprey]

Analysis: This is a typical software problem. Most likely this is caused by a bug in a driver.

For all my crashes

[merry stirrup]

take that as you will, irql has been a slew of things for me so

[edgy laurel]

whenever I see those mouse wrist rests, i imagine they use a really high DPI

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[edgy laurel]

because I gotta move my whole arm at 800dpi

[merry stirrup]

yeah im at 900 or 1000 i think

[edgy laurel]

improved fatigue in my wrist too, not needing to just use that for fine control

[merry stirrup]

yah

my wrists are already pretty bad unforrtunately so i feel you

i play pretty low sens and stuff too

[shell void]

such a sweet pc and room in general, but then a crappy monitor 🥀

[edgy laurel]

bro, if you're right handed, hold you mouse but then tilt your wrist up clockwise a bit so the sensor is facing left

it feels SO much better

[merry stirrup]

1.0 in apex/cs

im leftie

[edgy laurel]

ok same but counter clockwise

the bones in your forearm straiten out and its so nice

[merry stirrup]

thanks

i hit too many meaty flicks duh

[edgy laurel]

partly why i'd like a gaming focused MX Ergo style mouse

[plucky locust]

similar to an issue im having right now, intially thought it was drivers but it was ram..

[merry stirrup]

i just dont see a way it could be light enough

[edgy laurel]

well, for most but personally not much of an issue

oh hold up https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/razer/pro-click-v2-vertical

[woven osprey]

But I had a LiveKernelReports\WATCHDOG-*.dmp

That's a GPU deadlock right?

[edgy laurel]

[merry stirrup]

exactly

[edgy laurel]

shit man i'd almost be willing to try it. holding a mouse that way feels so good

at least in my arm

and I've been doing it for twice as long as you

well ok not twice

[edgy laurel]

and no speakers

[floral spear]

I love system Restore points

[edgy laurel]

floppa out here hot droppin

peacekeeper still putting in work

[merry stirrup]

of course

encoded in av1 for your viewing pleasure

[edgy laurel]

man that PK pickup was clutch lol

[merry stirrup]

it was what i was hoping to get LOL

[dapper junco]

Only keychron makes ergo mice like that with "lower" weight.
89g for their m7 model

[edgy laurel]

Never think of them. The M7 looks like what I have now (G502X)

M5 though is the vertical style

95g

[dapper junco]

Yea, got that mixed up

[edgy laurel]

genuinely wanna try one of those just to see if it improves comfort

[low sorrel]

why did i think that was hell divers for a split second

[floral spear]

I wanted to know how this feels for some reason

[low sorrel]

i want like a superlight mouse

[low sorrel]

but the sides are flared out

[merry stirrup]

check out this silly ult

[floral spear]

Like the g pro super light or a SUPER LIGHT mouse?

[merry stirrup]

also i hit that first pk shot im just saying

[edgy laurel]

hold your mouse and twist your forearm so the sensor is facing left (if right handed)

[low sorrel]

g pro

[merry stirrup]

i have one

[edgy laurel]

when I do this it immediately relaxes my arm and feels way more comfortable

[low sorrel]

them mouses def have been used

[floral spear]

I'll try it out in a bit

[low sorrel]

sir have you heard of holding your camera still?

[edgy laurel]

lol you just have to hold the mouse..

[merry stirrup]

omg this guy has used his things laugh at this user

[low sorrel]

how dare you use your mouse

[floral spear]

Yea but I prefer doing it when I'm playing CS to feel it

[low sorrel]

we all know mouses are meant to be put on a shelf and never used just like sneakers

[edgy laurel]

you cant actually use the mouse when the sensor is up in the air lol

[low sorrel]

(why do people collect sneakers i don't get it)

[floral spear]

Nostly because they sA someone cool have sneakers and thought "Omg these sneakers are cool and. Other people might buy it"

[low sorrel]

they sa someone what???

[floral spear]

I personally just buy the sneakers that I like

For example I love New Balance 574s

I think they're pretty neat and simple

[floral spear]

I think I talked about it before but I'm planning on getting a mouse way later on when my X2V2 dies

[edgy laurel]

I daily 574's, but I figured its because i'm old @floral spear

[floral spear]

I've always wanted to try this shape

[low sorrel]

idk i have yeezys because it's what my brother bought a shit ton of them like 8 years ago and he didn't end up wearing most of them

[merry stirrup]

ok this ones loud becareful

[low sorrel]

and they are in my size

[merry stirrup]

(this was our first game on and my homie is not good at the game)

[floral spear]

I have a Wooting 80HE rn which I bought because

Idk I was stupid back then

[low sorrel]

floppa why do you sound like exactly how i expected you to

[floral spear]

But also they have good support

[floral spear]

Like a regular guy?

[merry stirrup]

im a 19 year old floppa what else could i sound like

[floral spear]

I sound stupid and I need to take speech classes the same where people with speech impediments are

[low sorrel]

snail sounded very different then what i expected

[merry stirrup]

yeah but im goated

[merry stirrup]

insane bait on the door i knew she was gonna shoot it out

[low sorrel]

is apex still a popular game

i haven't thought about that game since 2018

[merry stirrup]

i think its the most popular free to play game besides fort

[floral spear]

I never played Apex because it's too complex for me

[merry stirrup]

pretty popping

thats just steam not ea app or consoles

[low sorrel]

dead game

only 60k smh

[merry stirrup]

on one of 5 platforms

[floral spear]

It's why I play CS2 even when it's filled with cheaters

[merry stirrup]

apex legends is a point and click adventure

[low sorrel]

when tf did fivem change from source sdk base 2007?

[floral spear]

Since the rockstar acquisition I think

So for example

PuBG I don't play it, never got the hype for it

I think the payoff around battle Royale games is minimal and worthless

Warzone it gets tiresome since it's just filled with everyone trying to be the next big thing

Apex It has payoff I love the TDM mode

Redsec I never tried

Let's see what other battle Royale games are there

[low sorrel]

supervive

[floral spear]

Never played it

My main gripe with battle Royale games is I have never been able to

Utilize the Third Party Option

Like you know in br games where your squad is fighting against another squad

And there's the third squad that comes out of knowwhere and interrupts the fight, shoots and kills you when you're laser focused on the other squad

Like I never fully utilized it nor do I really know how

[merry stirrup]

you gotta position yourself smart and end fights quickly or position for a third party consciously taking a fight

[floral spear]

That's the thing tho Everytime I try I get punished for it by a fourth party

[merry stirrup]

then you got unlucky or got too involved in the fight

gotta know when you have to leave

making a bunch of noise for 2 minutes straight isn’t awesome

[pure garnet]

br shooters having a 15 minute time to kill annoys me more than anything

[shell void]

that's why apex legends arenas is goated

[turbid locust]

Any shooter with a massive HP pool

I hit a crazy far headshot on a player with like the 2nd or 3rd best sniper in the game on Apex and didn’t down the guy

never bothered to play Apex again

[shell void]

oh you meant time to kill as in time spent in a gunfight, i thought you meant time to first kill

[turbid locust]

yeah nah I just don’t like games that take 87 shots to kill

Slowest TTK I can deal with is like battlefield

[brisk jolt]

3 business days to kill each other

mailing them the death is faster

[topaz veldt]

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[turbid locust]

Also games that let you heal in 0.2s

like you’re telling me the guy I just lit the fk up can immediately repeek me

[brisk jolt]

william afton shenanigans

[fringe vigil]

whoopty doo

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/kartal-gif-3596370159344905149

[radiant lantern]

If I’m replacing thermal paste and some of the old paste gets on the pins, if it’s not metallic can I just ignore it and put the new paste on the top of the cpu

[wraith steeple]

Oh boy we got a nerd fight between Thermal Grizzly and Aquacomputer

Apparently Aquacomputer released a WireView of their own and Roman is not happy about it

[topaz veldt]

oh noes

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[low sorrel]

i give up.

warship you win

[wraith steeple]

Netflix must blow massive donkey weewee if you keep getting warshipped

[low sorrel]

i'm going to crash out

i just tried to record the problem

and it fixed itself

[low sorrel]

Only happens with Netflix

MPC HC and prime video have no problem

[edgy laurel]

browser player?

[low sorrel]

tried edge, chrome and the app

[indigo walrus]

Are ALL of your monitors HDCP compliant? Last I checked, Netflix requires EVERY monitor to be compliant.

[low sorrel]

yep

[edgy laurel]

do you see that confirmed in the old NV control panel?

try unplugging one or the other and playing something again

[indigo walrus]

This. Process of elimination. Try watching Netflix with each monitor plugged in on its own.

[edgy laurel]

I get the idea that Netflix is a little nuts with how much they lockdown their players

thinking back to that guy who was having HDR or 4K issues the other week

[low sorrel]

Ok still happens with my 4k monitors

Checking my old one

[hoary hatch]

Does Netflix still only do 4k/HDR in edge

[low sorrel]

Yep, or the app

[hoary hatch]

Incredible

Disney+ is like 480p in every browser I've tried

[low sorrel]

Guess what

It works with my shit 1440p one

[edgy laurel]

not surprising. glitchy af HDCP compliance and/or Netflex being super strict about it

[low sorrel]

I mean my good monitor is having the HDCP issues

Which is the one I would rather not have it

[low sorrel]

sooo how the fuck do you fix hdcp issues

[edgy laurel]

good question

could also be the cable

[low sorrel]

tried swapping cables

twas the first thing i did

[steel stream]

you need a new gpu trust

[edgy laurel]

sometimes displays have drivers you can look for?

I wonder if CRU allows you to muck with EDID/HDCP stuff.. not that I'd know what to do

CRU is a bit of a bear to use if you aren't following a guide

@low sorrel you aren't by chance using any screen recording software are you? or maybe signalrgb?

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1593410-screen-flickering-during-netflix/?do=findComment&comment=16607134

[low sorrel]

i have fucking signal rgb open

[steel stream]

maybe OBS in the background or smth?

[low sorrel]

are you fucking kidding me

[edgy laurel]

However, today after countless hours of troubleshooting, I fixed it! Turns out SignalRGB was the culprit. I had SignalRGB's screen capture turned on to match RGB to whatever was playing on the display. Netflix due to DRM issues, does not allow screen recording and the moment I changed it, the problem was solved!

specifically SignalRGB's screen capture, in their case

[low sorrel]

nevermind

[edgy laurel]

doesn't really explain why the other monitor works

just throwing stuff out there

what happens with HW acceleration off in a browser?

[low sorrel]

maybe the nvidia game clip thing is bugging it because i do i have it on and a game is open in the background

[edgy laurel]

also yeah maybe turn these off and reboot for another test

(do one thing at a time)

oh, you have recording enabled and a game is open?

[low sorrel]

i forgot to close cs eariler

[edgy laurel]

@indigo walrus surely has the solution 😉

[indigo walrus]

I wish. This is reason #46274 I happily pay for the relevant license / subscription to consume content I enjoy, but usually find alternate means to display the bits (1's and 0's) of said content. Paying customers should not have to, and yet, here we are, paying customers, being given a worse experience than those who never pay.
I have a Netflix subscription and even purchase BluRay collections of anime's I love, but I'll be damned if I'm going to put up with a craptastic DRM system that prevents me from watching what I'm legally licensed to enjoy, when I want, where I want, and how I want. Lord Gaben said it best over 15 years ago.

[low sorrel]

hardware accel off has no problems

[low sorrel]

but thats not acceptable because im pretty sure hdr is off

and it looks like 1080p

[edgy laurel]

yeah i mean, good test but I wouldn't be happy leaving HW accel off either

[low sorrel]

hw accel off removes hdcp afaik right

[edgy laurel]

not entirely sure

[cosmic gazelle]

i always turn hw accel off and have a great experience

there used to be a reason why and i don’t remember what it was

[edgy laurel]

not sure why you'd want it off. Just extra work the CPU has to do

[cosmic gazelle]

my cpu isn’t ever a limiting factor in anything i do so theoretically it’s raising my framerates slightly

[edgy laurel]

that doesn't make any sense lol

[cosmic gazelle]

less gpu load

[low sorrel]

I actually do turn it off sometimes and it's because it keeps stuttering when im watching videos and i play a game with hw accel on

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah this is probably why i do it

[edgy laurel]

oh, you guys do that. In 15+ years i've never seenthe point in playing back videos on the same PC i'm gaming on

or if I do, I use another machine

[steel stream]

i just pull out the iPad

[low sorrel]

but what if im dead and im waiting for the round to end

[edgy laurel]

yeah, anything but the PC itself, its got a job to do

plus myother display is vertical

[low sorrel]

o and watching my friends tarkov streams on the side monitor so i don't tk

[low sorrel]

anyways it was this

[edgy laurel]

oh?

[low sorrel]

disabled it and it worked fine

[edgy laurel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/you-did-it-you-crazy-son-of-a-bitch-you-did-it-jurassic-park

[low sorrel]

probably would've been faster to pirate it

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel this is so good

[edgy laurel]

Nice. Whats that for?

[topaz veldt]

I dunno lol

[steel stream]

this is the way

[steel stream]

I should have picked one of those up

[topaz veldt]

this puppy was like $2300 w/ apple care

[steel stream]

MacOS on a 42" C4 would be funny

[steel stream]

I would have gone for the $400 one at Microcenter lol

[topaz veldt]

yeah i dunno why i do these things

[edgy laurel]

same tbh lol

[topaz veldt]

I was like "but I am going to miss out"

[edgy laurel]

probably woulda worked the same in basic tasks lol

[topaz veldt]

for certain

[shell void]

he needs the 48GB of ram for safari

[topaz veldt]

I wanted the 64GB version but its like unpossible to get right now

[steel stream]

I would just use it for apple music probably

for no real reason

[topaz veldt]

I was thinking of getting a VESA mount for it

[low sorrel]

Wtf

[edgy laurel]

it woulda replaced my 5800x system

[low sorrel]

This is a bad tech day for me

[shell void]

i like the blue aviator cable, it's a fun color

[steel stream]

it ain't got no gas in it!

[steel stream]

I need a second monitor for that

[low sorrel]

fucking murphys law

[steel stream]

mac mini secondary system would be hella nice now that I think about it

[topaz veldt]

its nice on QD-OLED

[shell void]

abstain from the financial ruin involved with following in the footsteps of snail

[topaz veldt]

but it's so worth it

[steel stream]

I'm only buying rent and food for a while

KEF speakers set me back

[low sorrel]

can you test it on a tandem oled?

[topaz veldt]

Once I get one

[steel stream]

just ship it here bro I got you

[edgy laurel]

i keep hearing about weirdness with MacOS and some resolutions. This also keeps popping up when reading about it https://www.madrau.com/overview

[steel stream]

I'll probably send it back

[topaz veldt]

it can be a little funky

I like the hardware I don't love MacOS

[steel stream]

I've never had a true MacOS experience so I wanna get some sort of daily system

or secondary daily

[lethal topaz]

m1 mba's are like 200 bucks on ebay

[low sorrel]

I don't think I could ever only use mac OS but i really like the look of it

[low sorrel]

no they ain't

[lethal topaz]

my mistake

[steel stream]

I gotta wait till after the summer for tech purchases

[topaz veldt]

running low

[lethal topaz]

one of the few people ive seen with more storage than me

if only i could fit my extra drives in my NAS

[topaz veldt]

That's only part of my storage

[lethal topaz]

i am aware...

[low sorrel]

am i the only one when watching some films with hdr on it becomes too dark in the dark scenes and you lose a bunch of detail?

[lethal topaz]

who are you?? Anna Archive?

[topaz veldt]

block storages

[steel stream]

is this on netflix

[low sorrel]

yeah

[steel stream]

I have found the Netflix HDR grades to be not great

[low sorrel]

like don't get me wrong it looks great when theres like a explodison or fire or something

[steel stream]

HDR is also just a fickle mistress, your monitor settings or HDR calibration tool could be set up not properly

[edgy laurel]

also are you using native HDR through Netflix? I assume so (see, it does work) since RTX HDR is probably blocked

[topaz veldt]

These are so weird

[low sorrel]

yeah

[topaz veldt]

I figured out this and other sites are why my shadow play is constantly turning off

[queen orbit]

If you are just messing around with it pickup something used, the M1's are still shockingly capable and can be had fairly cheap these days.

[topaz veldt]

Just get the M4 Max

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/wallet-gif-25866507

[shell void]

https://tenor.com/view/george-bush-george-w-bush-george-walker-bush-george-bush-gif-4763846221746003914

[steel stream]

"now watch this drive"

[shell void]

absolute stud in that moment

[steel stream]

top 5 presidential clips of all time

[wraith steeple]

[edgy laurel]

the pistachio not as popular

[wraith steeple]

Left to Right:
Sesame, Pistachio, Vermicelli, Pistachio again, Rose, and Coconut

All have Pistachio in them

[edgy laurel]

Oh, I was thinking Coconut for the Vermicelli

looks like shaved and toasted coconut, or at least how i've seen it sometimes

Rose though, i'm not a fan of rose flavored anything

i don't even know what they are but i'd probably eat all of those but the rose lol

[shell void]

breakin the fast with some treats?

[brisk jolt]

fire

[wraith steeple]

Ah Pistachio, Rose, and Mastic are my faves

I have the taste buds of an elderly person apparently, since these flavours are popular amongst the elderly in my area

[brisk jolt]

nah those are all fire

except rose, ive never tried that

[edgy laurel]

I can't do rose. Its like you're eating potpourri

tastes like flowers smell

[floral spear]

stopped using windhawk today

idk it just felt useless

[edgy laurel]

i have it but simply for the transparent taskbar

[floral spear]

I had it to make my taskbar look like windows 7

but I got bored and just went "Eh"

[brisk jolt]

oh jeez

[pure garnet]

does translucenttb not work anymore

[edgy laurel]

maybe. i tried a few others and they either didn't work at all or had issues working after restarts and didn't feel like mucking with them. windhawk otoh just kinda worked perfectly

[low sorrel]

theres a person here

[pure garnet]

i'll take your word for it

[low sorrel]

oh wait it's just fully black because of hdcp lol

bruh and my phone camera is too good for the low light

smh

[heavy mantle]

Ha it runs on a raspberry pi lol

[livid flame]

You should see what the old machines ran on

The local entrepreneur shut down one of his arcades a few years ago because it wasn’t worth the money to repair or replace his machines from the 90s

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/really-bruh-blink-blank-face-gif-9334898104617218757

[heavy mantle]

Oo

Wasnt it assembly or smthn?

[livid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/weird-flex-but-ok-gif-12877945

[leaden dawn]

Laaaaaaaaame

😔

[livid flame]

He’s got 2 more on our island, a pub and a night club. It was never used. He’s renting out half the space to a snooker hall, a friend of mine is moving his business there.

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-dumb-and-dumber-whatever-fine-whatever-gif-gif-5195989858205006736

[fervent scaffold]

I took 3 of these out of working PCs just for this pic

[topaz veldt]

Ok

[fervent scaffold]

GTX 660, GTX 1080ti, RTX 2080 Super, RTX 3080, and RTX 5070ti

I think gpus are mesmerizing

[brisk jolt]

Oh no- Dont hit him with the supernova

[topaz veldt]

nah

[arctic bronze]

@hoary hatch

[topaz veldt]

eh

[fervent scaffold]

Minecraft with shaders still runs slow

[topaz veldt]

?

naw

[storm hatch]

ill get more in my collection i want a 2060 ir 2070 founders edition

[fervent scaffold]

Are these all 40 and 50 series?

[topaz veldt]

all 4090s

[fervent scaffold]

Mint. Sick. Why tho?

[topaz veldt]

Now all 5090s

[fervent scaffold]

I remember this pic a while back, why that many?

[topaz veldt]

I have a lot of builds

[brisk jolt]

Man… 4090 Aero looks so nice

[fervent scaffold]

Different people or different purposes? I mean I wish I had it im just curious

[topaz veldt]

I told you - I have 5+ builds

[brisk jolt]

I miss the design of the 5070Ti Aero icl

I wonder how it’ll look in my current build

Dont expect much but those fans are still nice

[storm hatch]

I want a noctua gpu lol

[cosmic gazelle]

dude test benches are awesome wtf

$15 and it’s a super compact little platform to build on

can’t believe i didn’t get one sooner

[arctic bronze]

ur gonna pay out of the ass

[brisk jolt]

Noctua GPUs are stupidly fat which defeats the point of getting a noctua tbh

[storm hatch]

I know its sad lol it be really just paying for the name

[storm hatch]

all my noctua fans are black anyway

[storm hatch]

the only one i can afford

[topaz veldt]

I have a lot of noctua

[fervent scaffold]

Okay. But why

[topaz veldt]

Same reason I have 5 cars

[fervent scaffold]

Because you want to. Okay, thats all I was looking for

[topaz veldt]

Why are you upset

[cosmic gazelle]

i’m gonna re-oc the gt 630 tomorrow i think 🔥

[storm hatch]

I love pushing older cards

[fervent scaffold]

Im not I was just asking

[topaz veldt]

Team noctua

[cosmic gazelle]

this particular model is the 2gb ddr3 and it will happily run with the memory slider all the way as far as it’ll go

[storm hatch]

my all black noctua

[topaz veldt]

old models

[storm hatch]

I gotta move my main pc into the case one day once im not lazy

[topaz veldt]

I'm on those G2s

[brisk jolt]

Some dude in another server was “aura farming” with his 5700XT- I came in saying it has none and I managed to trigger 3 people

[arctic bronze]

i arua farm with my gt210

[topaz veldt]

I have a new low end build

[arctic bronze]

what is it, a 4080 build?

[cosmic gazelle]

bro bought a 4090

[brisk jolt]

Oh man…. best part is they were a 5700XT user, RX570, and a 1030 user

Calling me “insufferable” with no valid points 😂

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean 5700 xt is still a nice card but no driver support does blow

[brisk jolt]

Dude I was talking to another guy about the B370 and B390s and those essentially white names came in saying shit like “amd better” with no experience in anything, calling me “unemployed”

[analog plover]

I love mac studios and minis, what do you have there? specs?

[analog plover]

oooo what do you use it for? I've been considering a system like that for video editing

[topaz veldt]

i dunno yet - just another desktop device

[analog plover]

bruh

You just have it for the sake of it?

Thats fair enough I guess, I'm not your dad lol

[topaz veldt]

I am not a good role model

[analog plover]

I have some fiber optic equipment lying around and starlink is my ISP lol

All my 10gb stuff is local anyway though so who cares

[topaz veldt]

yeah i am all 10 gbps

some 25 gbps also

[analog plover]

I currently only have 10gb between my desktop and nas, ran via SFP+ copper because thats cheaper than doing 10gb ethernet and cooler

[topaz veldt]

I run all fiber

[arctic bronze]

mr fancy

[topaz veldt]

only way to fly

[arctic bronze]

can you make me mr fancy too

😔

[analog plover]

I'm not concerned about interference or going a long distance so I use copper

I got my cabling for very cheap, it was 25% off on amazon at the time

[topaz veldt]

I have it throughout my house

[analog plover]

I also got my 8x 2.5Gbe and dual sfp+ switch for $60 last black friday

[topaz veldt]

I have it like so

[analog plover]

Nice

I might do something similar when I have my own place

I have seen people get 2.5gb over old coax tho lol

[green marsh]

that is for LLM dude

also vector database document reindexing really hammers the GPU 😄

on positive side, that temps is pretty much the worst case scenario i seen so far, and that is just two slim Arctic fans blowing air at the Morpheus cooler on the 1080 Ti

[woven adder]

anyone know any good servers for web and app dev

?

[green marsh]

servers in what meaning?

[woven adder]

servers like LTT

[green marsh]

#development , but i would say these days it is better to bounce off questions against either google ai mode, or a local LLM (like Qwen3-coder, Qwen3-Coder-Next, Qwen2.5-coder depending on your RAM/VRAM capacity)

[woven adder]

yeah i understand but im looking for innovative things and ideas that makes my life easy

[green marsh]

important part is try to understand what the answer does, not taking it 1:1 blindly

[green marsh]

look, even stackoverflow died due to LLMs. I don't think there are many communities left if even SO managed to become irrelevant

[woven adder]

also i want to talk to people about what they are doing

[brittle trellis]

What alternate reality do you live in where stack overflow is irrelevant?

[devout ridge]

My order of 12 moving lights come in today!

Now i figure out how on earth to patch them all...

9 of these

[devout ridge]

3 of these

[woven adder]

do you know how to tailor small LLMs like 7b to deliver tailored responses

[green marsh]

i never needed to do that to be fair, i just asked either good questions, or ran them through Cline (be sure to increase context size to maximum you can), with rules set for it (like use this language, use that framework, etc)\

[devout ridge]

I get the pleasure of hanging all 50lbs of this thing on a catwalk

So i get to hang with half my body outside the railing, trying to hold it in place while someone else attaches it

definitely the work safe approved way, i promise

[woven adder]

this is what i like about humans see i didnt knew about Cline and now i know

[green marsh]

Cline can talk to any LLM, paid or free local ones. I use it with LM Studio

[woven adder]

yeah i looked it up but does it work with ollama

[green marsh]

Cline ? Yes. I prefer LM Studio due some minor features tho

[woven adder]

ok

[green marsh]

minor feature being draft model. What that means is that i load a big bulky model, like Qwen3-Coder-Next (80B parameters, 45.16GB size). But i use a small Qwen3 1.7B (1.56GB) model as draft model, so the question is first bounced against the small, quick model, and then it's answer is boucned against the big 80B model, which corrects mistakes of small model if there are any.

(it's called Speculative Decoding to be exact)

[burnt socket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/899753979108552774/1475453236046725254/image.png?ex=699d8a68&is=699c38e8&hm=2a48aa92c45487b74f9419644db35ce5168c0fefba5f63d088e5e4710567efa5&

linux subsystem for windows

[woven adder]

so both of them are running at the same time

?

[green marsh]

well yes, but you let the smal lmodel run at 130t/s, prepare an answer, possibly not correct one, but still, a fast and possibly usable one; and then the big model checks the result and fixes it. End result is faster answers

[green marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmAbco38pXA

[woven adder]

how much ram do they need at idle?

[green marsh]

another feature i like about LM Studio, it tells you the VRAM/RAM usage

my combo usesaround 63GB of RAM total, 14-15GB of that is offloaded to GPU VRAM

not great, but working with what i got 🤷‍♂️

[woven adder]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-laugh-crazy-car-gif-22580177

[woven adder]

thats it im downloading lm studio

[green marsh]

ollama is for example better choice if you want it to run in open-webui, as LM Studio can be connected to it only via OpenAI compatible endpoint, but that doesn't allow you to load/unload models via API, so you have to switch them in LM Studio manually

[woven adder]

i will give it a shot and see if i like it or not

[woven adder]

great video

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/twerking-purple-thing-purpleguy-twerk-twerking-purple-guy-gif-25863430

[edgy laurel]

@steel stream @shell void my new favorite show off video https://youtu.be/ClDOZduYupY

[topaz veldt]

Sigh... where'd HDR go?

[edgy laurel]

Mac?

i'd give a look at SwitchResX, may give you more control

[topaz veldt]

I upgraded to MacOS Tahoe last night (this shipped with Sequoia or whatever) and no its missing 🙁

it had been there

[edgy laurel]

compeltely accecdotally and really only in passing, i've seen some people complain about Tahoe

[arctic bronze]

Man im gonna purple you

[topaz veldt]

If you see anything let me know

[arctic bronze]

Hit you with the green, slap you with the yellow, taunt you with the blue

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel this is so weird

variable, 240 right?

[arctic bronze]

Ew, apple

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel

[arctic bronze]

Snail goin towards the evil side

[topaz veldt]

I have used MBP for like a year or more

[arctic bronze]

Evil snail

[topaz veldt]

breh this mac mini is a beast

but yeah if I go native 4K

[topaz veldt]

OK this is super weird

[edgy laurel]

switchresx may be the answer

[topaz veldt]

It came back, but I have to dump refresh

LOL but if I go native 4K, 180 Hz, it enables HDR

Actually 240 Hz does also - this is ridiculous

[edgy laurel]

lol fuck if I know. it does seem that modern Apple silicon Mac's DO support DSC

[topaz veldt]

Well its doing it now lol

4K native 240 hz + HDR, my fonts are just small

Makes no sense what so ever

[edgy laurel]

oh, yeah this is the video I saw https://youtu.be/kpX561_XM20

I didn't watch it but it came across my feed looking for something else

[topaz veldt]

Ok cool will check it out

I can see why my wife likes her Mac Mini - its just cool

the speaker sucks though

[edgy laurel]

you're letting her use a built in speaker?? what happened to 5nail

someone has taken him

[topaz veldt]

No no, mine defaulted to it

she has those pebble things

[hoary hatch]

Let me at him 🤜

[shrewd parrot]

any thoughts on cyberpunk type of builds in minecraft?

[shell void]

[devout ridge]

they’re hard to do well without mods, at the absolute bare minimum you need some decent shaders

[shell void]

i like this video

[random flame]

Indifferent.

[shrewd parrot]

?? this good or not i followed some tutorial on how to build

the background doesnt fit ikk😭😭

[devout ridge]

in isolation, it doesn’t look cyberpunk

[shrewd parrot]

it was my first one in my world gng

anyone knows why chunk loading is so ass on my laptop

ignore the DH mod i deleted it its still shit

[junior slate]

Any reason why my pc beeps 5 times on startup after installing a new nvme ssd?

[fringe vigil]

It’s just. A little too late a little too wrong and I can’t waitttt

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-too-late-cute-passionate-gif-12360954

[shrewd parrot]

im using the usb 3.0 on my laptop why is it so slow

[edgy laurel]

because you're transferring thousands of small files

[shrewd parrot]

so if its one big one it will be fast?

[edgy laurel]

likely faster, but no one here can tell you how fast as you've provided no hardware detail or own what you have to test

[pure garnet]

small files won't go fast because you're constantly stopping and starting new transfers