tech-chat-2

[arctic bronze]

Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 THX Certified

https://a.co/d/0ibn7CUM

[edgy laurel]

nailed it

[merry stirrup]

but if you sand/lap a cpu enough (gpus probably too but it seems to take longer) you can see the sections of the silicon with all the colors and stuff

[steel stream]

totally, totally (right????)

[merry stirrup]

its beautiful genuinely

[shell void]

the only reliable powered product klipsch has ever made

[steel stream]

I've got a titan die I should do that with

[edgy laurel]

thats some strong words

[patent gorge]

should make a necklace out of a threadripper

[arctic bronze]

dude they are bad ass, the sub is overkill for my dorm XD

[merry stirrup]

a great idea to me

if its dead dead i see no reason why not

[shell void]

well i’ve owned two soundbars and the fives and both were terribly unreliable

[shell void]

my old pro media have been in use daily for eons and they’re fine

[edgy laurel]

meanwhile do you need me to to link you the 'how to fix your dead promedia 2.1/5.1" thread on hardforum thats still gettings posts lmao

[merry stirrup]

this is from itanium but smae thing

[steel stream]

i mean it was a working GPU before I took the die off lol

[merry stirrup]

uhhh well not anymore 🧌

but yeah i wanna do it to some of the random things i have

[steel stream]

i just sand the surface right

[merry stirrup]

i really want to do it to an xbox 360

[merry stirrup]

theres a couple der8auer videos on it, he made a couple things where like it was a CPU die in epoxy/resin, try to fidn that one

[steel stream]

oh I didn't know you had the fives at one point

michael I am literally just following in your footsteps

[merry stirrup]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSW8dZeE1yM

its the goat himself so

[patent gorge]

I wonder if you could attach a lens on top of the lapped die to both make it smooth and get a nice magnifier effect over the silicon

[merry stirrup]

you wont need to remove it from the substrate itself (imo its cooler on it but up to you)

may have to cause of afformentioned flip chip but i dont think roman did in his og vids

[brisk jolt]

this is the most fuckass card ive ever had

[steel stream]

before being beheaded

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/桐生戦兎-仮面ライダービルド-kamen-rider-build-kiryu-sento-sento-kiryu-gif-11157174352445916018

[merry stirrup]

maxwell so it was old anyways

hurray

[merry stirrup]

looks terrible

my 570 4gb was the worst one ive had i hate it

[edgy laurel]

i raise you 2080S XC3 Black - the stripper model

[merry stirrup]

i raise you the single fan, triple slot 2060/super with no backplate

[shell void]

big maxwell 🗣️

[edgy laurel]

literally people in the comments suggesting potentially sending it back for missing the backplate https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/gm6jzq/should_the_back_of_my_evga_2080_super_ko_look/

[merry stirrup]

(also no backplate)

[edgy laurel]

that had to be the last generation of cards that shipped with no backplates

from a major brand

[merry stirrup]

im sure there was 30 series garbage w/out it but from major brand yea

did the turbo lineup have a backplate?

[pure garnet]

2060 ko and it's leaning tower of thermal pads mogs sorry

[edgy laurel]

holy..

[topaz veldt]

I think I remember buying backplates for my GTX 580s

[edgy laurel]

do you remember custom etched LED backplates? they're still a thing I think

[slim pebble]

Oof. Jufes killed his 5090 card.

https://youtu.be/QP7AZIBVgP4?si=tv3yMMScM8Ath5xF

[merry stirrup]

evga was so good!!!?!!11!

[merry stirrup]

almost not

[topaz veldt]

I do

[pure garnet]

i don't think i could paid to click that thumbnail and title

[topaz veldt]

Do you remember high flow PCIe plates?

[edgy laurel]

same

[merry stirrup]

ah guilty i found one with no backplate

[edgy laurel]

wait, you don't mean the fans that went in PCIe slots do you?

[topaz veldt]

EVGA shipped like this

[merry stirrup]

heres a 3080

[edgy laurel]

Ohhhh

[topaz veldt]

You could upgrade to

[brisk jolt]

this is the pinnacle

[merry stirrup]

lmao

[brisk jolt]

i need one

[merry stirrup]

see this card is clearly not just cheap like the other ones we yap about lol

[edgy laurel]

third party?

[topaz veldt]

EVGA

[edgy laurel]

This thing looks so good.

[topaz veldt]

In fact, I had done some product photography for them back when.,,, hang on

[merry stirrup]

i fw it

[odd sable]

is that a GTX 460 2win?

[merry stirrup]

i think im going to buy BGA stensils here soon

[brisk jolt]

im checking everyday to see if theres any 5070 mini stock

[odd sable]

oh, apparently no, because only 2 dvi ports

[patent gorge]

for sff?

[edgy laurel]

what the actual fuck

[merry stirrup]

reminds me of gainward phantom

[edgy laurel]

ok what genius signed off on that

[odd sable]

what card is that?

[brisk jolt]

I want either the 5070 mini or FE whichever comes up that I can grab first

[topaz veldt]

gtx 580

[merry stirrup]

surprisingly removing the chips is pretty easy, this is from an RX 580

[odd sable]

ahh, found it,

[edgy laurel]

ok similar thing

[odd sable]

or similar at least

[edgy laurel]

I assumed everything back then was blower

[merry stirrup]

some ddr3 ic’s

[odd sable]

not everything apparently

[merry stirrup]

smacked my knee so hard against my desk

[merry stirrup]

i need better tweezers, some solder balls, stensils/holders, replacement parts and cards to fix then im ready to begin

i think tho ill practice more on the 580 i already technically put in its grave (a memory chip is already dead on it but i took one off)

and i think im gonnna buy some better flux and then organisers cause theres already too much

[merry stirrup]

replacements arent bad at all tho

[merry stirrup]

oh i mean btw classified existed back then

things like MSI lightning and gigabyte SOC too

not too different than their later gaming designs

[topaz veldt]

awwyeah

[merry stirrup]

should i pop the arc card in my jellyfin server?

im thinkin so

[steel stream]

do it

[merry stirrup]

okie

here in a day or two ill have to map out when ill take it offline

[edgy laurel]

https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/post-install/transcoding/hardware-acceleration/intel/

there is a section further down outlining what is needed for Alchemist/Battlemage

[merry stirrup]

id assume the samething for any gpu, drivers and proper passthrough then just enable it

[edgy laurel]

yeah, and the kernel requirement just above that

[merry stirrup]

i already have the other stuff for intel gpu configured cause i was doing it thru my 10700 igpu so

[edgy laurel]

I wanna say @topaz veldt had some sort of kernel mixup issue with Arc and transcoding? I can't remember the details

and might be completely wrong on that

[merry stirrup]

kernel date wise i should be ok cause i setup jellyfin on ubuntu server quite a while after arc came out so id imagine im fine

ill have to enable rebar which blows

[topaz veldt]

its behind us now, but yes there was a pre-release kernel I had to load for transcoding

Whatever issue I had was resolved in like 6.13 or something

6.12 maybe

[edgy laurel]

ugh @merry stirrup imagine conformal coating gluing packages down https://youtu.be/XVLeQcQfgFI

that looks like such a pain

at least it protects all the little components around the chips

[merry stirrup]

unfortunately exists on even some of the hardware i want to mess with it

it will computer like no other

[edgy laurel]

damn, he re-applies more of it afterwards

[merry stirrup]

ill get a proper nas case eventually

for now yall get this random phanteks thing with 3 different hdd cages in it

[wraith steeple]

Phanteks P400?

[merry stirrup]

idk i figured it out one night, real old, think like 2018

originally came from prebuilt

[wraith steeple]

Yoooo I am him as the kids of today would say

[merry stirrup]

yep thats it

mine came with the rgb strip and stuff tho

had to modify mine so it would fit my 1300 G2

[steel stream]

oh what a nightmare

[wraith steeple]

Ahhh so P400A

[edgy laurel]

tweezer guy made relatively quick work of it

[edgy laurel]

what you need is an old Define

[merry stirrup]

sounds right, came with a ryzen 5 1400 and RX 580 as a cyber power prebuilt originally

paid 100$ for the whole system not too long ago so meh

[edgy laurel]

all the 3.5" bays

[merry stirrup]

that woulkd be sick

i like that quite a bit

[edgy laurel]

hallmark of the Define series

I've had two, way back in like 2011/12

[merry stirrup]

damn so i probably wont be seing them

[edgy laurel]

gotta be old beaters out there

i just threw mine away, well a year or so ago

[merry stirrup]

first time floppa serve has been on a real display for a while

[shell void]

newegg still stocks the define r5 new

[edgy laurel]

Yeah I think mine were R2 or R3's

[merry stirrup]

im in

[edgy laurel]

my first (and only) NAS was in one

[steel stream]

come back to us

[edgy laurel]

f that

[steel stream]

shame

also bobsledding is on at 3 which is fantastic news

[wraith steeple]

I have enough drive bays from the cases I built in to make a few NAS builds

[merry stirrup]

thank god it has a late enough bios

[edgy laurel]

we pray you're not plagued by I225-V issues

[merry stirrup]

this board is, it doesnt have the issue in linux tho

[edgy laurel]

good

[merry stirrup]

i have the real hw defected one

where i have to cold boot the system all the time on windows if i want it to work

[edgy laurel]

My B550i has that NIC but has always been fine

[merry stirrup]

yeah mines not

sadly its a pretty old z590

[edgy laurel]

oh, you were looking for ReBar and all that jazz

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[arctic bronze]

thats clean, mine is messy lol

my case does not allow for cable management sadly

[merry stirrup]

makes mine feel less ugly

[edgy laurel]

PCIe fan spotted

[merry stirrup]

i really fuck with the cooler on mine being the same metal color as on this aorus board

[arctic bronze]

yeah, it helps keep my duel 10gig card cool

[shell void]

this absolute chad gutted the inside of the 2014 phanteks enthoo pro to put a 4090 in it

[edgy laurel]

3060FE ?

[merry stirrup]

dont think 3060 fe existed, 3060ti did i thought

or is it the other way around?

[edgy laurel]

i thin the other way around

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3060-12-gb.c3682

[topaz veldt]

im going to rdp into this fedora box again

[merry stirrup]

hm ok

[topaz veldt]

said no one ever

[edgy laurel]

bro now has as much room as I do

[shell void]

tpu has bogus photos for some cards

[edgy laurel]

just gonna do it, just for fun. cause its possible lmao

[shell void]

floppa had it right, there is no 3060 FE

[merry stirrup]

oh ok

[wraith steeple]

3060 Ti FE by the looks of it

[topaz veldt]

i gotta use hdparm to zero out like 32 SSDs

[merry stirrup]

i forgot to turn on aspm

im gonna look at power draw in a second and if its not insane i dont care

[shell void]

based and real mr anktual

112 -> 224 for 240Hz VRR works so well it would be silly to not use it

[edgy laurel]

Thats one of the more tame "bad takes" on FG out there

[topaz veldt]

I am confused

If you have 120 fps already, and VRR, you'd enable FG?

[shell void]

yes

[topaz veldt]

Weird

[edgy laurel]

Could do, and make use of that refresh rate

[shell void]

112fps interpolated to 224fps is a heck of a lot smoother than 120fps without fg

[edgy laurel]

but why I said tame is if you're happy with the 110-120fps without it, thats also valid

its not like your experience is really suffering

[topaz veldt]

There's a certain latency added with FG tough

[shell void]

i played around with it for the one day that i owned the xg27ucdmg

the extra smoothness of doubling your framerate is so nice

it feels lower latency and easier to track targets even though it isnt

[edgy laurel]

thats the magic of it, and a lot of peoples opinions are tainted by that one time they tried it at 40fps base

[merry stirrup]

i want to unplug that white light in the arc card already

[shell void]

well it IS easier to track targets with twice as many frames, but i meant that it feels lower latency even though it isnt

[topaz veldt]

I have 130-150 fps in Arc Raiders epic everything, transformer balanced. I'll enable FG and see.

If it is ass I want my money back

[merry stirrup]

i tried it in stalker 2 but only had like 50-60 base fps

[edgy laurel]

that game has Reflex, right?

[edgy laurel]

nothing is saving that game

[topaz veldt]

it has something that is "on"

[shell void]

anything using dlss framegen has it

you cant enable dlss framegen without also enabling reflex

not natively anyway

[topaz veldt]

I can do whatever I want

[shell void]

[fringe vigil]

Anyone wanna see me stream a game

[slim pebble]

I haven’t seen DVI ports in forever! I forgot they were a thing.

[slim pebble]

How many spare SSD do you have?

I’m just happy none of mine have gone bad (yet), a new 4TB drive would hurt to buy right now.

[topaz veldt]

these are SAS3 - I have 32 1.6TB

If I get $7k for them I'd be happy

[lethal topaz]

dayum

i got 13 14tb drives for 7$ a tb

how in the world are you gonna get 7k$ for those drives

[topaz veldt]

How in the world am I gonna get $7k for 32 drives that sold for $300 ea last week?

[lethal topaz]

they dont show you OBO price offered either

[topaz veldt]

I have bought them, so they go for like $160-220/ea

[lethal topaz]

hmm yeah no that would be 7k

[topaz veldt]

these are all....

97-99% left

[lethal topaz]

what command is that

[topaz veldt]

smartctl

[lethal topaz]

and then just the pool?

[topaz veldt]

there is no pool

[lethal topaz]

oh

[topaz veldt]

I am bash proficient

[lethal topaz]

you just be knowing huh

some of us got to learn for that

[frank zealot]

man, people just call everything a "gaming computer"

No it's fucking not, it's a pile of shit, and it's just bad

[lethal topaz]

e waste tier

[frank zealot]

2gb gpu? Very e-waste

[lethal topaz]

i think my mom has a gtx 960 in her work laptop

[arctic bronze]

fg is the feature where winners win even more lol

[arctic bronze]

well it is a gaming pc, its just a really old one lol

[frank zealot]

what? Why?
This is 65 bucks at target, and still in stores

[pallid marsh]

Rather buy a 6th gen Intel optiplex for $90 🤣

[frank zealot]

250 for what's most likely just plain dead?

the cpu's BGA, so you can't swap it.... so what's the point

[lethal topaz]

maybe worth 250 including the ram..

[frank zealot]

250 w ram? I could see it for a project.
Ain't droppin 250 for a dead laptop board

[vestal granite]

can add 32gb ram for +$200

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

[vestal granite]

may god help us all

[lethal topaz]

is this your thing

[frank zealot]

this.... this isn't bad for entry honestly.

[vestal granite]

crucial ballstix my beloved

[lethal topaz]

wow what a reasonable listing

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/silence-paul-atreid-dune-gif-7542119916506846672

[frank zealot]

I saw this movie in IMAX when it came out...

I was traumatized for a little while

[pallid marsh]

[merry stirrup]

fe card makes it tolerable

[slim pebble]

Darn Linux nerds everywhere 😆

[lethal topaz]

whats the ethernet port on that?

[frank zealot]

8700 and a 2060 is perfectly capable of running a shit ton of titles still.

And at 355? it's not that bad

[pallid marsh]

At least it supports w11

[frank zealot]

it do

[edgy laurel]

bro, this looked like it was 1/4 full of dust on first glance.

tell me i'm wrong

[frank zealot]

I can see it

[craggy mist]

hey that’s like my old pc

[frank zealot]

hmmm:
Ryzen 3 5300G?
Ryzen 5 3500?

Cuz the 5300x doesn't exist

[lethal topaz]

probably 3500 because it has a 1660

[south shuttle]

3500x

[lethal topaz]

those came out similar times

1660ti for a kings ransom??

[topaz veldt]

fun

[shell void]

buddy didnt even bother to wipe the case down before taking the photo

[edgy laurel]

its 2026, thats how you know its not AI

[green marsh]

it's Minisforum, so there is a high chance you just need to replace the CMOS battery

(and no, that is not a joke)

[edgy laurel]

from the sounds of it, they didn't actually attempt anything

so it could be that simple

[green marsh]

my Minisforum UN100D refused to power on when the CMOS battery was dead (<2.6V) and Minisforum somehow makes their PCs refuse to turn on without a working battery

[pallid marsh]

What drugs do they put in your water? 12100f and b570 PC is $680 with 2x8 ddr4 and 512gb SSD

[green marsh]

when i replaced the battery, the mini PC which didn't even react to power button with dead battery or no battery came back to life

[edgy laurel]

was it one of those wired batteries

[pallid marsh]

Wtf

[green marsh]

5600x, because they made a typo un num keypad

[green marsh]

yes, like on every mini PC

[green marsh]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MINISFORUM/comments/1pabp0n/unofficial_ms01_cmos_battery_replacement_guide/ 😄

[edgy laurel]

I have an ITX board like that. requires taking off the IO/VRM cover to get to it

[frank zealot]

also a solid option

[green marsh]

MSI ?

[edgy laurel]

Asus

[turbid locust]

Oh you got a Bambu lol

[green marsh]

ah, sorry, MSI put the Clear CMOS behind the cover, not the battery 😄

[frank zealot]

I didn't, but that guy got pwnd lol

[green marsh]

high IQ move

[pallid marsh]

So easy to reach

[frank zealot]

can you imagine coming home to your build plate just sitting on the fuckin' floor?

[edgy laurel]

maybe its not that bad. still can't get to the connector easily

[green marsh]

behind an integrated I/O shield ?

[green marsh]

meanwhile Gigabyte

[pallid marsh]

For sure you just get your pet baby mouse to reach it

[edgy laurel]

better picture

similar vibe

connector still out of reach

[leaden dawn]

Wtf

[turbid locust]

oh lmao

[green marsh]

meanwhile they had this figured out in Z77 era

[edgy laurel]

in fact, not having an I/O shield is the only reason you can see it to begin with lol

[edgy laurel]

yeah, those vertical ones are fine

[leaden dawn]

Must cost more

[green marsh]

uses more space is what the issue is

[pure garnet]

bring back memok

[edgy laurel]

I love how Greg Salazar still calls every postcode readout a "Dr. Debug"

meanwhile that was some old Asrock brand name

[pure garnet]

it's still what asrock calls them

[edgy laurel]

so they do

[topaz veldt]

@shell void so I get 250 fps with FG 2X and it doesn't feel good

[shell void]

youre buggin

[topaz veldt]

naw

it doesn't feel great

[shell void]

so are you a never framegen guy?

[fringe vigil]

rfgszrgsrg

[pure garnet]

my superlight scroll wheel is acting up again

wonder what broke in the encoder

[topaz veldt]

Nah I used it in Indy

[turbid locust]

pretends to be surprised

[pure garnet]

this was already broken so

if anything it's surprising that it took this long to act up

[turbid locust]

Logitech try not to have dogshit QC on their flagship mouse challenge

[fringe vigil]

huggy wuggy

[topaz veldt]

I have 3 or 4 of the Superlight 2's and have not had a single issue yet

Its fucking exhausting, honestly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da9GwXX-0Zs&t=15s

[pure garnet]

i haven't clicked on a gn video in like 2 years and i've lost nothing

[wise bear]

samesies

[pallid marsh]

I only like the GN nerdy reviews of parts

[pure garnet]

even then wheres the nerdy part

[pallid marsh]

The Prebuilt reviews are great

[pure garnet]

oh the tear it down and look and the stickers section

[pallid marsh]

Yeah

Still waiting for fan reviews

[cosmic gazelle]

i gotta know where microcenter is sourcing their ram from

isn't the whole story that there are theoretically 0 consumer dimms being produced right now

or is that not true anymore

[pure garnet]

no

[merry stirrup]

had to swap the slot arc was in

shared an iommu group with like, everything

[pure garnet]

my 7500t will live forever

[merry stirrup]

😭💀

[steel stream]

i just like the fab tours

[hot stratus]

They finally hacked Humane pin more 😄

[lethal topaz]

big fan of this zfs stuff

one million more please

[wise bear]

unused ram is wasted ram

[hot stratus]

😄

[lethal topaz]

i must rebuild the pool

i nuked like 11tb of media to move to a raidz2

[wise bear]

@topaz veldt what's the lsi hba that you suggested? it was the 2-port one (9300-8i??)

[hot stratus]

hi Peyton

[wise bear]

ayo

[wraith steeple]

[south shuttle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBOf4XfUl7M i'm coming back to this video because jays forgot to mention this video is a sponsor

but there's not even mention in the description about the affiliate links being a sponsor

pretty sure j2c broke some actual laws here

you have to be clear when something is sponsored, i didn't get the pop up at the beginning of the video, no mention within the video itself and not even in the desc

[pure garnet]

none of the 3 links work so i guess call your senator

[cosmic gazelle]

i am intrigued

x79?

looks like maybe a 7870 or something?

[south shuttle]

it used to be affiliates and the url is also very typical for sponsored links

[cosmic gazelle]

oh goodness it’s x58

[south shuttle]

unlike when you just paste the url when you google the products

[pure garnet]

yeah and i get the same url type from my amazon app so that isn’t real damning here

[south shuttle]

i'm just surprised j2c is such an idiot

very sketchy for him not to mention the whole video being a sponsor

[wraith steeple]

We on WCE clown on Jay quite a bit

[south shuttle]

it's literally agaisnt the law

[wraith steeple]

[pure garnet]

do we have more evidence here than amazon url analysis

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean i haven’t checked this particular case but sponsor disclosure avoidance is like extraordinarily common and not enforced almost ever on social media

it’s just the state of the internet

[south shuttle]

i see all the time yes

[pure garnet]

i think you should send gamer nexus the 3 year old fan review so he can make a 30 minute video on it

[cosmic gazelle]

lmao

[south shuttle]

no

[cosmic gazelle]

EXPOSED: JAYZTWOCENTS (we have the facts)

[pure garnet]

3 broken url links is quite damning you have to admit

[wraith steeple]

Even his Watercooling takes are pretty questionable

[pure garnet]

jay is a funny guy

[cosmic gazelle]

him and austin evan’s make me so sad because they used to make such great unique videos and now at LEAST every other video is a blatant shill

[topaz veldt]

This is for @edgy laurel #tech-chat-2 message

[south shuttle]

looks like even in his recent videos the affiliates are borked

[cosmic gazelle]

bringus is what old tech youtube used to be and i’ll stand by that

[pure garnet]

jays videos on trying to blow up a 5090 master were pretty interesting

[south shuttle]

my problem with that particular video was him shilling the fan, and it's triggering especially when he didn't mention "sponsor" anywhere

the fans have obvious resonance issues

[cosmic gazelle]

damn bringus has almost 1 mil subscribers

[south shuttle]

because bequiet used just some plastic

[cosmic gazelle]

that’s bonkers

[fringe vigil]

what you doing

[pure garnet]

do you have anything definitive that proves it’s sponsored

[south shuttle]

he didn't give any objective measures

[pure garnet]

with jay it’s equally likely he just likes the fan

[south shuttle]

just him blowing the fan at some random cfm measurer

[topaz veldt]

Cooking and grooving

[south shuttle]

the links are identical to other affiliate links in the structuring, i remember them being affiliates at the time

[pure garnet]

so no

[south shuttle]

non affiliate links have different structuring always

[fringe vigil]

Valentine is ass

[south shuttle]

look when you generate an affiliate link on amazon

[cosmic gazelle]

everyone knows this is elite fan geometry anyways so who cares about be quiet 😎

[south shuttle]

it looks the same

vs when you google the product and click on it

or when you just click on it

[cosmic gazelle]

ooh wait

i just had a monumental idea

[pure garnet]

90mm delta fans 🔥🔥🔥

[cosmic gazelle]

a living room tv stand with a standard rack mount built into it

[south shuttle]

and if he used someone's else affiliate it doesn't make the situation better i'm just saying

[cosmic gazelle]

i’m gonna make billions

[pure garnet]

call your senator

[wraith steeple]

The era of when Jay and Daniel worked together to build that Post Malone build is a certified classic for me

[south shuttle]

i'll contact j2c first

[pure garnet]

chuck mcgill with the urls

[south shuttle]

not the senator

[cosmic gazelle]

btw i’m relying on that sucker to be able to pull enough air through the solid metal box i’m putting it in so we’ll see if it’s up for the task

(ideally not at 7000 rpm’s but what are ya gonna do)

[pure garnet]

hold man i think pc part picker is sponsored by amazon

when i click their links it has a tag

i am writing to the president right now

[merry stirrup]

okay i finally got transcoding working that was annoying

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean we act like paypal hasn’t been abusing affiliate links for literally a decade and no one noticed until a year ago

[wraith steeple]

And the Tery Crews one. IDK I just miss the days when he did these sick showcase builds. That was where most of his YouTube views had the most popularity

Now he does adverts for Daniel's upcoming products and questionable topics

[cosmic gazelle]

i miss when bitwit was a nice little niche carved out before everything went south

[south shuttle]

i mean i'm just concerned about people being misled by him

because a lot of people trust links that do not mention affiliates more

[cosmic gazelle]

dude, aliexpress runs ftc sanctioned ads flat out saying they’ll ship you a TV for 99 cents. no one’s gonna do anything about unfair trade practices unless it directly harms another corporation

[pure garnet]

tellytv method

i know someone who actually got one of those

[merry stirrup]

this took so much longer than i thought it would

[pure garnet]

it's one of the TVs of all time

[cosmic gazelle]

is that that horrible thing that tracks your eyes to make sure you watch ads

[pure garnet]

no it's the free tv with a 2nd screen for always on ads and also has the camera and mic running 24/7 as part of the agreement

[wraith steeple]

I miss Daniel's build vlogs for clients. I loved his commentary over him building and going over the process of building rigs for his clients. He still does it once in a blue moon but now he just showcases his upcoming products and then Jay gives a more in depth look at said upcoming products.

[cosmic gazelle]

meanwhile 8/10 thrift stores near you have a tv that size for $20 that will do none of those things

there’s no way people are that desperate man

[wraith steeple]

Daniel and Buildzoid are the two people I can listen to for hours and not get bored

[pure garnet]

looks so bad too

[shell void]

@edgy laurel the frickin buttons on this are labeled backwards because it’s imitating a switch pro controller instead of a xbox controller

[wraith steeple]

Daniel for reference, is the owner of Singularity Computers

[cosmic gazelle]

@pure garnet

[pure garnet]

yeah except if they catch you it's a 1k usd fine

you have to hand over valid payment info when you sign up

[cosmic gazelle]

i’ve got to hear what their legal defense for that is

[merry stirrup]

“you signed this so pay us” basically

[pure garnet]

yeah you enter a contract basically

and if you void the agreement they demand the tv back or charge you 1k usd

[merry stirrup]

is it even a good tv

[pure garnet]

im pretty sure it's just just like a cheap tv

i only see verge and zdnet reviews

[topaz veldt]

so.... welcome to my life. Did you get the "bluetooth" model?

[shell void]

i did

the buttons still work as expected when connected to PC so it’s not a big deal, they’re just labeled like a switch controller

[merry stirrup]

cant you change how it pops up with steam or am i crazy?

or does this not change the button ui

[shell void]

it automatically thinks it's a xbox style controller and i dont actually look at the controller while playing so it doesnt matter

[merry stirrup]

fair

[cinder marsh]

wallpaper engine is amazing

i just found the top gear burma special as a background

[topaz veldt]

so long as you don't look at what you're hitting you're fine - I can't deal with it, so I have BT models and "Wireless" models. Also, the buttons don't move, they are keyed inside the controller.

[low sorrel]

@topaz veldt how much did you need for the expedition again?

[topaz veldt]

it was supposed to be $1M per point

but somehow people had issues with that and so its $3M for 5 pts?

At least I think

[low sorrel]

oh i have that

what do i do now

[topaz veldt]

Exactly

are you level 75

[low sorrel]

yeah

[topaz veldt]

quests?

[low sorrel]

haven't done a single one

i did them all last wipe

it's all the same thing as last wipe

[topaz veldt]

there are like 5 - 7 new ones

did you do the PVE points

and trials?

[low sorrel]

the what

[edgy laurel]

broooo

fuck man, we shoulda noticed that.

the "wireless" model is Xbox layout

[topaz veldt]

"Shared Watch"

[edgy laurel]

funny, cause I did the same thing with my Ultimate 1 BT. It had switch layout buttons

However, it stopped bothering me after a while since I never look at it while using it and in Xinput mode on PC, it still worked like any Xbox controller.

[low sorrel]

welp i guess i did

wasn't going for it at all

[topaz veldt]

it was easy organically

welp, other than trials or quests, thats it

you can go collect your BPs again

[merry stirrup]

im assuming the wireless model requires a 2.4g dongle like for xbox controllers w/out bluetooth on pc

[topaz veldt]

yes

[merry stirrup]

so yeah you wanted the bluetooth model anyways

[edgy laurel]

both the wireless and the BT model support and include dedicated 2.4Ghz

[merry stirrup]

oh ok

[edgy laurel]

BUT

[topaz veldt]

BT is explicitly Switch layout

[edgy laurel]

they also both include BT.. confusingly

[topaz veldt]

yes

[merry stirrup]

thats weird

wonder why there would be any distinction then

[topaz veldt]

its super confusing

[edgy laurel]

but the Wireless model connects to Android and like.. TV's, but doesn't connect to a switch. The BT model connects to a switch

[topaz veldt]

and MacOS nothing works

[edgy laurel]

and has the switch button layout

its annoyingly confusing

[merry stirrup]

really weird

random question am i going to lose any meaningful transcoding perf leaving my arc in a x4 slot

[topaz veldt]

no

[merry stirrup]

i think no right? kinda like mining

[edgy laurel]

my Ultimate 1 was a BT model and had the switch layout. It was annoying at first but I got over it since when in Xinput mode connectedto Windows, it just worked as any Xbox controler

and I never look at the buttons

[merry stirrup]

sick cause my top slot shares iommu with a lot of my system for some reasson

transcoding perf seems fine i ran like 4 transcodes at once and it didnt drop any frames so we good

[edgy laurel]

yeah, in terms of PCIe bandwidth, transcoding takes barely anything

[merry stirrup]

ok sick cause i really didnt want to have to do more fafing

arc transcode is setup then

the card is fun but its not really of any use to me otherwise, drivers make it kinda not great for what i do on my system daily

[arctic bronze]

@merry stirrup pain

[merry stirrup]

100fps in cod waw is pretty suboptimal

[merry stirrup]

rename this

feet

[arctic bronze]

banished

[merry stirrup]

and 100fps in apex too so thats how i know its drivers lol

[topaz veldt]

yeah its like..... Mbps of BW

[merry stirrup]

i figured cause the bitrate of the media themselves is pretty low

comparing to even a couple of lanes at least

[topaz veldt]

yeah its no where near

[merry stirrup]

100fps in apex even seems too low but its dx12 now so i think thats probably where it should be at

idk what the quadro got ill compare later but i think the quadro got like 140fps in apex so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da9GwXX-0Zs

very cool

[topaz veldt]

already shared 😛

[merry stirrup]

oh damn

[topaz veldt]

there is a little misnomer in that he says the thing is only watercooled so other components are not air cooled

but even watercooled servers / PSUs chassis have fans in them to generally move some air around for shit thats not waterblocked

[odd sable]

Commonly, but not always

[topaz veldt]

You find me a rackmount server with zero airflow and I'll eat my shoe

every single watercooled system has fans, because there are storage devices and power/controllers that are not blocked

[brisk eagle]

will 80+ ever make a rating higher than titanium or is it unneeded
(speculation)

[fringe vigil]

jhfgyufkgyuik

[merry stirrup]

not unneeded, just hard

[brisk eagle]

i bet its hard

[merry stirrup]

well its like, insanely hard lol

talking about more efficient than 94% at 50% load

you cant have no losses

[brisk eagle]

yea

[merry stirrup]

and 80 plus ruby is a thing

but only for 230v

with a 96.5% 50% load efficiency

[cosmic gazelle]

big power doesn’t want us to have 101% efficient power supplies

[edgy laurel]

dude in the video basically says exactly this at 7:38

there will be some airflow to cool everything that isn't touching that big waterblock

[arctic bronze]

@merry stirrup you broke youtube

[topaz veldt]

when we started doing w/c systems our ops guys eyes lit up "no more fans to replace!"

[topaz veldt]

aaaaaaand the servers came filled with fans lol

[arctic bronze]

yep

[odd sable]

the WC blades here have no fans (or expectation of powerful chassis fans), even the SSD is water cooled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4Sqh-uJ2NA&t=275

[arctic bronze]

the link works somehow

[odd sable]

Might need/have a very small amount of airflow still, but it's extremely minimal

[odd sable]

Why wouldn't it?

[edgy laurel]

https://downdetector.com/status/youtube/

[odd sable]

Yea, I see the chat history now

[arctic bronze]

you can watch yt videos through links or from ur subscription tab

[odd sable]

Or, just don't watch yt videos

[merry stirrup]

its only the home page it seems

[merry stirrup]

my content has been fine this whole time

[arctic bronze]

why?

[edgy laurel]

damn, DD jumped from 60k reports to 240k reports SO fast

[shell void]

youtube and roblox are both partially down right now

[topaz veldt]

Sure, but the unit is ventilated to be cooled by floor air. Notice the vent in the rear.

[turbid locust]

Yeah home page is borked, subscriptions tab works fine

[edgy laurel]

down detector comments are the worst comments on the internet

I NEVER look there lol

[turbid locust]

fuckin Comcast!!111!!1!1!1!1!!!

[arctic bronze]

its all shrek

[edgy laurel]

that tracks

[turbid locust]

this peak

this is peak fuck the old fashioneds already hit god damn

[odd sable]

I did notice that, but it's still very very little airflow, and no significant air cooling (even for nics/storage)

[topaz veldt]

the entire front is ventilated

[cursive hornet]

the fuck happened

[topaz veldt]

no its not very little air flow - go stand in a DC 🙂

[uneven bane]

LMAO

[odd sable]

And where is that going to go?

[turbid locust]

Where’s the down detector for the down detector

how much downtime does down detector have

[edgy laurel]

no one wants to admit it but thats x.com

[odd sable]

My cup is extremely well ventilated if you look at it like that

[turbid locust]

REAL

[odd sable]

Giant hole for air, it just can't go anywhere once it's in there

[edgy laurel]

is a thing happening in the world? check x

[topaz veldt]

This is called the cold aisle for a reason

[uneven bane]

Why do you want a rack server that needs no airflow?

[topaz veldt]

it goes through the box, and out the rear ventilation

[turbid locust]

I still refuse to call it X that shit sounds like an adult rated website

[odd sable]

For normal air-cooled stuff, sure

[odd sable]

Through what holes? Damn near the whole thing is sealed on the back

[topaz veldt]

Go to 1 min 56 secs and let me know about the no fans 🙂

[edgy laurel]

yeah I hate it to. i'd call it twitter if I didn't think someone would correct me

[topaz veldt]

Have you ever been in a DC?

the air in the cold aisle is not "wafting"

[cursive hornet]

the fuck did a solar flare hit a datacenter square on lmao

[topaz veldt]

and, in fact, my IBM Z's are in a positive pressure "pod"

[turbid locust]

If someone ever corrects me about that i automatically assume they’re a dork so

[odd sable]

Clearly different nodes from the one being shown off, you can tell by the different front

[edgy laurel]

jerry would.

[turbid locust]

Exactly

[topaz veldt]

@odd sable notice the air tight doors and roof

[edgy laurel]

no jerry shame though. we ❤️ jerry. but he would

[turbid locust]

Nah it’s ok we can shame him

[edgy laurel]

lmao

[turbid locust]

lmoa

[lethal topaz]

how much of the internet is down

[uneven bane]

I was goin to say the only DC environment I have ever been in actively pulled air out of the hot isle

[turbid locust]

at least 47%

[topaz veldt]

hot aisle is usually just a return in the ceiling, nothing active about it

[lethal topaz]

welp looks like my current torrents are fine

[uneven bane]

words hard you get what i mean

[odd sable]

What's the point there?
You said to find a rack mount server w/o airflow. Something at least very close does exist.

[topaz veldt]

Nah, it doesn't - there is airflow because its a data center feeding non-blocked NICs and HBAs

[steel stream]

agreed

[topaz veldt]

You don't watercool a 1U and then let the HBA fail

[odd sable]

The DC has airflow, yes
That blade has a block on its nic and SSD too

[merry stirrup]

i think i am going to buy a broken gpu to fix shortly

try and fix*

[topaz veldt]

where

thats an OCP 2.0 card hanging off PCIe risers

there is no block there at all

[odd sable]

But fine, here, actually no airflow
https://www.servethehome.com/cray-and-amd-win-big-contracts-for-1-5-exaflop-frontier-supercomputer/

Fuck all for holes, clearly not cooled by air

[topaz veldt]

cray doesn't run PSUs in the nodes

all voltage control is in external modules

Also comparing a bespoke super computer to "watercooled servers" is a bit goal post shifty

[odd sable]

It exists

It's rare, but it exists

[topaz veldt]

You know exactly what I am talking about

[odd sable]

You are goal posting too

[topaz veldt]

No I am not

[odd sable]

Don't act like you aren't

[topaz veldt]

As someone with every breed of purchaseable watercooled server not a single one has NO fans

I cannot tell you how many months we tried to plan NOT upgrading CRAC in a "watercooled DC"

[odd sable]

"every single water cooled system has fans, ..."
I gave examples that don't

[topaz veldt]

only for every. single. manufcaturer. to tell us they need fans

[topaz veldt]

Whats the SKU on a Cray? CDW have it?

[odd sable]

Is it a water cooled system?

Does it have fans?

That's your original goal post, don't go moving it

[topaz veldt]

Don't be obtuse

[brisk eagle]

this argument is pointless

[topaz veldt]

Just like no ICE engine completely lacks water/coolant

[edgy laurel]

boys. can't we all be friends

[topaz veldt]

"but top fuel don't run water or coolant"

its a stupid point to make

[topaz veldt]

NO

[odd sable]

Air cooled motorcycle engines lack water/coolant

[topaz veldt]

So do lawn moyers

Fortunately when talking about ICE engines its not assumed we're talking about RC car engines

[odd sable]

Yup, and if that was the conditions, then lawnmowers meet it

[topaz veldt]

I am very glad I don't argue the 0.000009% and am taken seriously 😉

Much more digestable in meetings

I was on a call today and a consultant said "What protocol does Scale IO use" and I said "Well... its using a kernel driver... its called scini" and he said "it still has a protocol"

I let him lose the contract the rest of the meeting 🙂

[odd sable]

Learn how to eat your shoe, it can be quite helpful when you actually need to work with people.

[topaz veldt]

Guess what you call someone who tries to use a Cray as an example of commodity hardware thats "not cooled with air"?

Unemployed

[odd sable]

I never tried to use it as an example of commodity hardware

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-ackchyually-actually-gif-11156171

[odd sable]

I opened with "commonly (fans exist), but not always"

[topaz veldt]

They always exist in servers

[shell void]

ive been larping as an unemployed man for the last couple of days because i got sick

[odd sable]

You fucking wish

[topaz veldt]

Not on my payroll, junior

Go work for CRAY lol

[odd sable]

Correct, but senior*

[topaz veldt]

I think you missed the point

[odd sable]

I'd rather work for the company I work for than HPE

Mostly because I do software, not hardware

[topaz veldt]

I am not surprised 🙂

[shell void]

euuughh hpe

[odd sable]

i haven't hidden that i work in games

[uneven bane]

Cant stand HPE

[odd sable]

my job is quite literally "make game run fast"

[topaz veldt]

Good thing its not "make NIC work all day long"

[odd sable]

thats not yours either though, is it?

are you figuring out system level cooling?

[topaz veldt]

I am responsible for the reliability of an entire trading companys datacenter, yes

[odd sable]

so, you delegate that out to someone else

[topaz veldt]

I am architecting platforms around cooling, yes

[odd sable]

fair enough then

[shell void]

snail you need some of those upcoming nvidia connect-x9 800Gbps pcie 6.0x16 nics

[topaz veldt]

We got em

well we got 400 Gbps in use, 800 Gbps provisioning

[shell void]

glorious

[arctic bronze]

wheres mine

[topaz veldt]

I was supposed to be getting a large shipment in like 2/27 but it was delayed

Its looking more like mid to late march

I might be able to share some pics once it lands - I am disaggregating storage, compute, and GPU

[uneven bane]

Would doing something like that be why someone would have servers without backplanes?

someone on marketplace has like 3 R640's that were ordered with no backplane or anything

[topaz veldt]

No that's jsut someone selling spares

I am not sure an R640 will even boot w/o a backplane

A lot of people today are trying to convert R640/740 into NVMe backplane boxes from the XD variants and others

We are deploying a new arch that promises dedicated ports/line speed to each NVMeoF, ethernet, etc.

No more convergence as its becoming too contentious with the way things are going

[topaz veldt]

Diskless is not backplane-less

[topaz veldt]

that's wild in a rack mount

[uneven bane]

ST: 32MBCS2

[topaz veldt]

They're either booting from BOSS or SD

I mean I guess they could have FC HBAs doing boot from san

[uneven bane]

I'm still learning so figuered I'd ask someone who knows more than I do

[topaz veldt]

I have never ordered a "diskless" rack server

other than simply w/o disks or controller, always had a backplane/2.5/3.5/1.8/nvme config front

called it lol

but wow a single port 16 Gbps FC HBA is cursed

so boot from SD w/ NO multipathing

[uneven bane]

wow

[topaz veldt]

im thinking edu or not-for-profit

something with low uptime expectations

with really ugly cabling

[uneven bane]

Might be edu, I've bought from the dude and we are near several colleges

[topaz veldt]

yeah just a guess

that is def not a stocked config

but it has an 8x 2.5" chassis

[uneven bane]

I think if you pulled the front blank panel out you could slot in a backplane

but yeah weird spec none the less

[topaz veldt]

the prob is like decoding the backplane pn# to that config pn#

a lot of times its just better to swap internals into an empty chassis that has the config you want

[uneven bane]

Yep learning that recently as I need to buy PCIE risers and of course there are like 3 different ones for each server so its been fun...

[topaz veldt]

yeah HP LP and all sorts of mix

[brisk eagle]

wait
solar flare
cloudflare
idk if you meant this but

[devout ridge]

reread what they said

[brisk eagle]

yea i reread it
what

[topaz veldt]

Raider Flare

[brisk eagle]

did a solar flare hit a datacenter square on

[devout ridge]

what do you think

[topaz veldt]

that's ....

[edgy laurel]

is this a legitimate question

[brisk eagle]

no im restating what they said

[topaz veldt]

hmm

[brisk eagle]

they asked whether it was a solar flare
and cloud flare has flare in it
and it was probably cloudflare that caused this again

[devout ridge]

They very clearly were talking about a solar flare, not cloud flare

[brisk eagle]

they mightve used solar flare to link to cloudflare tho

[devout ridge]

what

[brisk eagle]

unless im overthinking it

[devout ridge]

my brother in christ, what do you think a solar flare is

[brisk eagle]

lava from the sun that beams out?

[edgy laurel]

this is comedy

[devout ridge]

a, no
b, how exactly would that "link to cloud flare"?

[brisk eagle]

bc they both have flare in the name

[devout ridge]

i'm getting second hand brain damage

[brisk eagle]

ah forget it

[cosmic gazelle]

when my school has godawful computers that all sit there and pull my files in when i login, is it just all connected to the same massive nas that has everyone's personal data on it

or is it more complicated than that

[devout ridge]

more likely a SAN

[cosmic gazelle]

oh i lowkey did not know that was a thing thanks

wish it wasn't so damn slow though

[devout ridge]

be grateful, it can always be slower

[cosmic gazelle]

i should just go in to the admins office and switch all the storage bays to raid 10

surely wouldn't be catastrophic

[devout ridge]

raid 0, even better

[cosmic gazelle]

ngl i ran two hdds in raid 0 for a couple years and when one started to conk out it was a real nightmare to recover which obviously is why raid 0 is not great for most people

but if i was stupid and put sensitive data on there i would have been boned

[devout ridge]

Yep, Raidz1/2 ftw

[cosmic gazelle]

real kings stripe across 8 drives for the same price as a single ssd these days

[fringe vigil]

https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/410904426 told you kirashi

yt messing up

[edgy laurel]

thanks.. we had no idea

[cosmic gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/abell46s-reface-policia-police-doofy-gif-18842974

[topaz veldt]

In the last hour or so I have not done anything on my PC that's been down

so I haven't noticed lol

[arctic bronze]

its already fixed

[edgy laurel]

@steel stream Seen "Legend"? 2015

Tom Hardy, plays both Kray twins. London gangster film. Fucking epic

the BD is also incredible quality

[floral spear]

I like the movie, but I think Tom Hardy was doing "I am acting" when he was playing the crazy one

[edgy laurel]

He rarely fails to impress, imo.

[floral spear]

Are you saying this in the context that he failed to impress playing as the crazy kray?

[edgy laurel]

No no, the opposite

In that role specifically he's scary as hell

[fringe vigil]

[floral spear]

Ah well I don't know, I personally like the movie and how it went. But this is just me, I have a shit palate- but I did do some eye rolling whenever he played the crazy Kray Twin

[edgy laurel]

I gotta read about how they shot this, him playing both brothers and all

[fringe vigil]

how you only just saw legend

kray twins

[floral spear]

Probably playing in two seperate takes with a stand in to talk to?

[edgy laurel]

Yeah I mean I can see how it would be done technically, its still interesting

[floral spear]

Blu Ray Behind the Scenes or some shit

Probably how they did Sinners as well

[fringe vigil]

[floral spear]

Idk my favourite movies are the ones with corniness

Like that Matthew McConaughey movie with the weed

[fringe vigil]

i wtached sinners in cinemas

[floral spear]

I'm planning on watching iron lung on march

[fringe vigil]

markiplier

[south shuttle]

as a markiplier watcher, the movie is sort of mid but better than 95% of movies nowadays

[heavy mantle]

isnt the movie based on some indie game?

[steel stream]

heard about it, def need to watch

[south shuttle]

it is

[steel stream]

was a college basketball night tonight

[arctic bronze]

nuh uh

[warped mountain]

Is there a fan boost button to keep the Macs cool? I don’t know all the key combos yet. 

Seams to Burst up to 55W and not be able to hang there long quickly dumps to mid 30’s, 
obv pulls clocks above 180F, [p-cores] does 4.4- ish, then settles down around 2.8-3.1 sustained,
but the fans aren’t really chucking air, should be screaming, its just a slight swoosh :/
the Watts shown in the top bar is just the SOC power. total system draw is 65-67W.

once i got the tool i understood why i was getting 1-ish hr of battery life. 😭. does the 16 have quad coolers? i know it has 30% more battery.

[heavy mantle]

whats the macbooks specs?

[warped mountain]

m4 pro, 24gb, 512gb, space black, non-nano

[arctic bronze]

WATER

[edgy laurel]

https://crystalidea.com/macs-fan-control

[heavy mantle]

CREEPA

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-sukuna-absolute-cinema-jjk-gif-5394194156872612446

[heavy mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-frog-meme-memes-gif-24277198

[granite dirge]

what would i be looking for if i wanted to use a hub in my case's front pannel usbs' for my wireless dongle for my keyboard, wireless dongle for my mouse, and the long usb c cable going to my series x controler theirs so many options and im not understanding them

[edgy laurel]

Type A?

any USB Type A hub, they've been the same for roughlyl 20 years (just USB3 now)

you can buy normal passive ones or beefier powered ones, about the only real difference other than number of ports

for a few peripheral dongles any cheap passive one is fine. charging controllers though, a powered one might be ideal

[granite dirge]

i have one type c and 2 type a on the front of my pc

[edgy laurel]

ok, but thats not really relevant. what ports are you trying to get more of, thats the kinda hub you buy

[granite dirge]

its not charging the controller, , the controller has sno batteries in it since, i couulldnt get the connection wirelelssly to work,

it wouuld be 3 of the regular usb ports,

[edgy laurel]

ok so Type A

endless options

little $8 unit will do https://a.co/d/09Fi6OAL

plug it into one port, you get 4 ports

done and dusted

[granite dirge]

anad this will let me use my controller?

[edgy laurel]

apparently i even own that one

[edgy laurel]

It will let you plug in 4 Type A USB devices.

its turning one port into 4, couldn't be more simple

[warped mountain]

thank you, gained 15% clock speed, i imagine being in that Prosumer class product class i dont have to worry about the fans life. i know thats how thinkpads and latatudes are. they dont care about anything lol.
tho i image being a modern screen come summer teh mac wont be happy with teh screen in direct sunlight when its 115F out 😭 my Samsung s25U wont even do more than 300 nits if its over 88F out. have to cuff both my hands over it to even see the screen is "on"

[arctic bronze]

@topaz veldt yo, check da whip specs, this shit is fast

[edgy laurel]

basic passive Type A usb hub's have been basically the same since 1998-99

just faster now

[shrewd meadow]

exact same concept, they just got usb3 now

[finite belfry]

got this bad boy a few days and it's awesome:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005010201018418.html

does full 10gpbs without skipping a bit, and has some good heft to it. long 120cm braided cable, with dual type A or C plug

has optional power port for external drives too

the brand is not some obscure alphabet soup one etiher, they do some cool stuff like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3RDSESoGjM

[cosmic gazelle]

@pure garnet included exhaust fan on this case vs the one im using

aka you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about

[brisk jolt]

i almost thought that was the idcooling x37

[cosmic gazelle]

nah arctic s8038

most airflow through 80mm i could find

[warped mountain]

are the mac people still awake?

[warped mountain]

https://discord.com/channels/375436620578684930/1473571038528016518

[pure garnet]

big boy

[turbid locust]

my sleep deprived ass thought this was a stove

[brisk jolt]

oknice

[topaz veldt]

Why was there like... 8 chat posts in here since 11PM lol

[young void]

Baby woke up at 1am and puked 3 times, lots of funs

Its 2:41 and hes asleep now but like to get coffee or try and crash? ya know. I feel like the doom

[topaz veldt]

oof

We were all sick for like... 2-3 weeks with flu. Cleared up. Then my daughter threw up Friday night.

[young void]

Tiss the season xD

Coffee has chosen to consume my morning

[topaz veldt]

nice

@shell void the above was with FG on

Frame gen off:

Frame gen (2X but happens on any/auto) ON:

[karmic pendant]

https://youtu.be/5JtF7f5Vtp4?si=-FIZ8rop18eUP6kP

Back to their old habits

Just RELEASE THE DAMN FSR4 so I can buy The RX 6800xt 😭

[topaz veldt]

lolwot

[livid flame]

We had this last week 😭

Next morning she was perfectly fine and has been since just a little snotty

[livid flame]

FSR4 on a 6800xt will get hammered

[inner sedge]

fsr4 might need those ai cores rdna 2 is missing tbh

[livid flame]

IIRC I read somewhere rdna 3 is on average 20% lesser performing on fsr4 than fsr3. So I’d guess rdna2 gets absolutely hammered.

20% worse than fsr3 is more than likely fine for the visual improvement but can’t imagine rdna2 really wants it

[brisk jolt]

the copium here is crazy

[civic reef]

T14 G1 I wanted got sold

Now looking at a more expensive ($420 USD vs $290) T14 G3 with an i5-1235U

6 extra months of saving to afford that, but oh well

[karmic pendant]

Here is my opinion
I am afraid of the Rx 6000 series since AMD support doesn't last as long as Nvidia so Fsr4 will make them last more

[inner sedge]

12th gen is a huge jump over the g1, worth the extra save tbh

[civic reef]

The G1 is AMD

[karmic pendant]

Oh so Fsr4 isn't compatible with rdna 2?

[civic reef]

R7 4750U

[inner sedge]

ah yeah my bad, good catch, those ryzen 4000 chips were actually decent

[civic reef]

Had as many cores as their desktop equivalents, unlike Intel at the time..

[civic reef]

Also, funnily enough, despite having more cores.. They're mostly E cores

[civic reef]

6800 XT kinda isn't a worth it buy eitherway if you're not on a budget

RDNA 2 means meh RT, and sorta unstable FSR from what I've heard

[patent gorge]

pretty sure the whole point of buying one is because of budget anyway

[karmic pendant]

Yeah cheapest strongest card I can afford

[brisk jolt]

9060XT 16gb apparently nonexistent i guess

found dead in a ditch

[karmic pendant]

There is 9060xt too
But it goes for 200$ more

Than the Rx 6800xt

And On Nvidia side
It's like hell on earth

[topaz veldt]

I hope nvidia releases DLSS 4.5 on 1070 Ti so I can buy one finally

[brisk jolt]

i hope they realise DLSS 9 on the 2050 so I can buy one

[inner sedge]

lol yeah right, maybe theyll bring frame gen to the 750 ti next

[brisk jolt]

GT 710 will get MFG

mother fucking ghosted-

[topaz veldt]

I just need a decent GPU

[brisk jolt]

that msi lightning looks nice

[karmic pendant]

oh what a coincidence a wuwa player

Hmm yeah that's explains why..

[karmic pendant]

Yeah except Rx 6800xt isn't that old you know?

[brisk jolt]

Erm sorry?

[brisk jolt]

Oh jeez 2020, thats as old as my brother

[karmic pendant]

It was late 2021 it's been barely 4 years dude

[wraith steeple]

[brisk jolt]

Yea my brother was born in 2021

[karmic pendant]

Well yeah 4 years isn't that old

[karmic pendant]

And no it's not I don't have money but it's not worth it
For that kind of money

[brisk jolt]

6950xt

[karmic pendant]

Ehhhhh
You know that's not how it works right?

[brisk jolt]

3090ti or just slap it as a normal 3090 from the same gen, on 8nm

rdna 2 on 7nm

oh yikes so you want me to compare a flagship versus flagship from AMD? Who’s flagship has basically not moved significantly in performance the past 4 years?

[karmic pendant]

I considered the Rtx 3080ti but 12gb vram isn't convenient for a Gpu that powerful

[topaz veldt]

Its uh.... 3 gens old

[brisk jolt]

4 years for a 7900XTX or 9070XT being at 40%…. yikes

[karmic pendant]

2

[inner sedge]

yeah 12gb on a card that fast was a crime back then, even worse now

[brisk jolt]

Dudes typing like a 3080ti is gonna properly raytrace past 12GB

[fervent chasm]

It’s 3 generations worth of age

[karmic pendant]

I don't care about RT tbh

[brisk jolt]

Current gen (1)
Previous Gen (2)
And so on

[brisk jolt]

so… we dont need more than 12GB unless we’re a 4K player. In which you’re not.

[karmic pendant]

All I care is raw performance and some nice Vram

[karmic pendant]

1440p

At this point Rx 9060xt is the only choice

[karmic pendant]

Welp Nvidia

[turbid locust]

1440p will eat 12GB of vram depending on game

[brisk jolt]

oh no dont get me wrong… The type of budget this guy has he’ll probably be playing the most demanding… Say minecra-

[karmic pendant]

Yeah Hogwarts did that with my 6700xt

[turbid locust]

Idk I just got here

I saw RDNA2 mentioned

[karmic pendant]

Expedition 33 was really demanding on 1440p too

[brisk jolt]

It is impossible for me to think he’s gonna play any game more demanding than normal native cyberpunk

[inner sedge]

yeah 12gb is tight now, honestly just grab that 6800 xt for the extra vram buffer

[inner sedge]

yeah that game is brutal, 16gb is definitely the sweet spot for 1440p now

[inner sedge]

better to have 16gb and not need it than hit a wall next year

[karmic pendant]

Yeah save that 200$ and get a nice 6800xt and undevolt it

[brisk jolt]

I’d rather take my bet you’ll be running into a raster wall before the 16GB wall. Not to mention you’ll be stuck on the grainy FSR 3

[fervent chasm]

The most played games when the 3080 ti came out and probably still to this day don’t require a huge amount of vram

[brisk jolt]

Ma man finally put a statement I can actually agree with

[karmic pendant]

I can go for Rtx 3080ti too same price as rx 9060xt

[brisk jolt]

And… 3080Ti gets DLSS 4 which you’ll ignore “because raster and vram” like atp get a 5090 and flash 800w matrix on it- Oh wait

[fervent chasm]

The only change is maybe CS2

[inner sedge]

tuf cards from that gen were built like absolute tanks honestly

[karmic pendant]

Is the cooling on this one good?

[inner sedge]

tuf is way better for temps, that fe card can get pretty toasty

[brisk jolt]

i missed the part where models were in the conversation

[inner sedge]

jujer literally posted the photos of the cards though lol

[brisk jolt]

30 series FE coolers were alrigjt afaik

20 series FE i heard were horrendous

[inner sedge]

definitely go for the tuf, those founders cards have really bad memory temps

[fervent chasm]

Are PNY cards still the cheapest?

[karmic pendant]

Yep I am gonna order this one

[brisk jolt]

all 30 series GDDR6X suffer from the same memory overheating issue

[inner sedge]

nice one that tuf card is a beast for 1440p

[brisk jolt]

TUF has a pretty nice cooler- Managed to keep my friend’s 3060ti’s mem ok, unlike the 3080 ventus, then again its different SKUs

[karmic pendant]

The fkn ventus Is so horrendous