tech-chat-2

[wraith steeple]

Even though Duronaut is a bitch to spread, but honestly I do the dot at the center on AM5 and line on the center for Intel so eh

It's still a great paste in my book

[hoary hatch]

Now that's better

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/sheep-gif-4520105

[green marsh]

(sarcasm)

[hoary hatch]

Get tf out

[topaz veldt]

lol

[cosmic gazelle]

not an AIO model, brokie

[vestal granite]

i hate when shit texts me, shit should never text me unless its: verifying a phone number, an organ transplant donor was found, a deposit was deposited

and that 3rd one only if the deposit was deposited into a thing that doesnt have app notifications to tell me when theres a deposit, i dont want two notifications for it

[fervent chasm]

you probably accepted it

[vestal granite]

against my will yes i accepted it somewhere

heres an idea: lets sell other peoples shit, add a markup onto everything, and then annoy their customers, and theyll be forced to use our service because where else can you buy anything anymore

so we can just put dogshit in our terms of service but its okay because people accept the terms of service

[cosmic gazelle]

is 2t at higher clocks or 1t at lower clocks considered more impressive in general

[pure garnet]

too broad

[shell void]

you MIGHT be an AMD fanboy

[topaz veldt]

I'm gonna get nvl

[pure garnet]

is that 9950x3d going in the plex box

[shell void]

youll need to have a 5:1 ratio of Nova Lake to Zen 6 in order to recover your social credit

[brave panther]

those are clearly fake cpus, contact me for disposal

[topaz veldt]

You have no idea how many people accuse me of that

[pure garnet]

ztt

[brave panther]

people are just 🪼

[vestal granite]

jellyfish

[hoary hatch]

I took another look at Z970 leaked specs

2x gen 5 DMI lanes.....not ideal

Although, tbh, probably fine
But it would make me want to go for Z990 if the boards are priced appropriately

[shell void]

which NVL sku are you interested in? if i had to guess id say 8p12e bllc

[topaz veldt]

52c blllllllllc

[steel stream]

he just like me fr fr

[steel stream]

the only way to go

[edgy laurel]

So pretty

Partial to the 42” setup

[topaz veldt]

I hope the 52c is as ridiculous as they say

[shell void]

same i want my 100K+ R23

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel

[brave panther]

permit for more 5090's?

[topaz veldt]

lol

this permit makes 5090s look like dollar bin

[steel stream]

42" with Kefs is mint

[brave panther]

new datacenter moment?

[steel stream]

🙏 52 core in a consumer platform would just be so awesome to have

[brave panther]

yea no

you wont get that for atleast 20 years

[topaz veldt]

lol, home patio project from hell

[topaz veldt]

its coming next year

[edgy laurel]

sweet

[slim pebble]

Same, IDGAF if it ends up being $1000, I’m still buying the 52 core bllc

[shell void]

oh hey they turned twitter back on

[merry stirrup]

is 52c bllc possible i thought it was 52c or bllc

[edgy laurel]

never ending quest to keep making your home more valuable

[topaz veldt]

it'll be way more $

[brave panther]

https://tenor.com/view/red-dead-redemption2building-house-gif-gif-25587106

[slim pebble]

Don’t care. Shut up and take my money Intel.

[shell void]

yes

[topaz veldt]

or just to like... enjoy my backyard more

The 14 awg 4 conductor wire was fucking $400

for speakers

[shell void]

8p16e 144MB + 8p16e 36MB exists at least, but idk if 8p16e 144MB + 8p16e 144MB will exist

[brave panther]

lol

[shell void]

if it does then i wouldnt be surprised to see it be $1500

[slim pebble]

It’s going to cost big with a premium ASUS Z990. Still buying it though

[topaz veldt]

this will be cool

[topaz veldt]

I am going to try not to buy 8 of them

[brave panther]

how long of a wire did you buy

[topaz veldt]

250 ft

[slim pebble]

try …

[topaz veldt]

out with the old in with the .... older?

[vestal granite]

well theres your problem

[slim pebble]

I don’t understand why you do some of the things that you do 5nail5, but more power to you!

[brave panther]

why did you get speaker wire in particular, isnt romex in america dirt cheap

[vestal granite]

cool mcdonalds screwdriver

[brave panther]

and copper is copper

[shell void]

@hoary hatch

[vestal granite]

well if its outdoor then romex bad i think

[topaz veldt]

I am still trying to figure it out myself

[shell void]

i guess we are getting a microscopic 2 Xe3LPG tile

[slim pebble]

You and I will buy one, then the KS sku will come out. Press F.

[topaz veldt]

Because its for speakers

[brave panther]

but copper is copper, and as long as insulation is up to par to desired voltage its all good

[topaz veldt]

Its 4-conductor direct burial

[vestal granite]

another win for the pepesalad assumptions booyah, bazinga, boomshakalakah, etc

[brave panther]

ah, that complicates it a bit

[lethal topaz]

time to NUKE my media pool

[pure garnet]

👍

[reef lance]

https://tenor.com/view/you-got-any-gif-26357631

Y'all got anymore of them CPUs

[turbid locust]

No stairway.

[steel stream]

real

[topaz veldt]

No heaven

[turbid locust]

Atheists be like

[cosmic gazelle]

yo mac

do you just use karhu for memory stability or do you use a whole suite of things

[turbid locust]

Karhu is my primary one, if it passes 12 hours of Karhu it’s probably stable enough to daily? But if I want to be very sure I do Karhu, Ycruncher VT3, and Linpack

Well, I really only use Linpack on AM5 to test FCLK stability

So basically Karhu and Ycruncher VT3

[cosmic gazelle]

I don't necessarily expect you to know this off the top of your head but is Ycruncher a power virus on haswell

i'm trying to avoid using stuff that's gonna fry my shit

[turbid locust]

Ycruncher is a very heavy cpu load

arguably the hardest you can hit a cpu

[cosmic gazelle]

hmm

[pure garnet]

prime 95 small ffts is what i'd avoid then

ycruncher vt3 is good for memory but not as hard on the cpu

[cosmic gazelle]

well people say if you manually set voltage and turn off adaptive, you're probably fine, but that it can cause immediate super high temp spikes because of the shitty tim

but if you have voltage on auto avx can fry your shit because haswell increases voltage to accomodate avx

[pure garnet]

i delidded a 6700k and shoved nt-h2 under the ihs as a temporary fix and it helped temps

so maybe consider just cracking the lid anyway

[turbid locust]

Are they not soldered

[cosmic gazelle]

haswell isn't

[pure garnet]

pretty sure ivy was last soldered till 9th?

[pure garnet]

my grandma still dailies this chip in that state

[cosmic gazelle]

some people say you can just use the bracket to hold the ihs on without actually siliconing it back to the pcb- is that true

[pure garnet]

yeah i literally have mine held in by gravity

[cosmic gazelle]

okay

delidders online are really cheap so maybe i'll do that after i try to find the max without it

sounds fun

[turbid locust]

You could probably 3D print one if you have a printer

[cosmic gazelle]

i don't unfortunately

but metal ones are 12 bucks

[pure garnet]

they're a couple bucks on aliex anyway

[cosmic gazelle]

also is liquid metal and nail polish kind of expected or can you just replace the thermal paste

liquid metal kinda scares me

[pure garnet]

i just have paste under my grandmas

[cosmic gazelle]

oh okay

[pure garnet]

it's suboptimal but functional

[cosmic gazelle]

i would honestly rather just do paste than risk cooking my chip from spilling something i've literally never handled before

[turbid locust]

I would like do try direct die cooling sometime

[cosmic gazelle]

i'm not exactly going for 1.45v here

mac are there any secondary and tertiary timings that you just leave alone or do you adjust em all

[turbid locust]

touch em all

[low sorrel]

@topaz veldt 6 deadlines later and guess how many of the cores i got

[pure garnet]

does ddr3 have the same timings even

[turbid locust]

idk lol

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah same exact thing as ddr4 from what i can tell

[topaz veldt]

ZERO

[low sorrel]

YEP

[topaz veldt]

happens all the time dude - are you dealining from underside?

[low sorrel]

on top

[topaz veldt]

ok cool

[cosmic gazelle]

the only thing i can find from forums is that tCKE doesn't really do anything

but that everything else can matter under the right circumstances

[low sorrel]

i fell on the last deadline and then they took all of the cores

[pure garnet]

okay so i actually stability tested jackshit last time since my board is in normal mode anyway

[hoary hatch]

Yeah, which I know should be fine on Z970

This is based off assuming dual die bLLC will be close to a grand

[cosmic gazelle]

do you think that i'd have a better learning experience by starting with 2t? seems like it gives a little more wiggle room

[pure garnet]

on ddr3 i don't think you'd ever use 2t but i could be wrong

[cosmic gazelle]

i'll look it up

[graceful ginkgo]

Why is my computer doing this?

It won’t start basically

It was built on June 26th, 2025

[cosmic gazelle]

it's broken ship it to my address and i will dispose of it safely

(we need more details no one can tell from a picture)

[turbid locust]

holy shit a non RGB bullshit decently spec’d pc

[edgy laurel]

i feel personally attacked

[pure garnet]

holy shit timings used to be so small

[turbid locust]

there’s a difference between having RGB when you already have top of the line components

[cosmic gazelle]

@pure garnet old forum posts say you only really use 2t on ddr3 if you're 1. on bulldozer or 2. using 4 sticks, and i am neither, so that answers my question

[turbid locust]

when I see $200 in RGB with a 5070 it pisses me off

[pure garnet]

yeah figured

we're kinda stuck on 1.5/2t for ddr5 but those speeds are lot higher

[edgy laurel]

i have ancient, unusable hardware though, remember.

[turbid locust]

true

7800X3D/4090 is diabolically slow

[pure garnet]

i mean it probably runs halo ce so he's good

[edgy laurel]

dunno how I get through the day

[wraith steeple]

I literally have 486 era hardware

[sturdy aurora]

Hi

[lethal topaz]

i needed more cooling lol

[topaz veldt]

wow goes to show how often I use GUI in Linux - I didn't realize RDP can connect natively now

[sturdy aurora]

Computer

[turbid locust]

Fire

hyper 212 jumpscare

[lethal topaz]

i actually like it a lot lol. looks like a cyclops. just printing a fan grill for it so cats dont fuck with it

[turbid locust]

Wait is that a H212

[topaz veldt]

@turbid locust ezpz

[turbid locust]

slow

[sturdy aurora]

I dual drive Linux and MacOS

[graceful ginkgo]

When I turn it on, the fans are spinning but the monitor doesn’t display anything

I’ve unplugged & replugged the monitor & PC to no avail

[lethal topaz]

i have no idea. i bought these fans like 6 years ago or more

[topaz veldt]

mITX 9950X3D 💪

[lethal topaz]

ive forgot how to cool pcs since my gaming rig is open air

[turbid locust]

ancient technology

[cosmic gazelle]

what happens if you plug your display into the motherboard’s output

[low sorrel]

aight im happy now i found 4 cores on a free kit body the next raid

[topaz veldt]

this is fine bro

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/it-belongs-in-a-museum-indiana-jones-the-last-crusade-harrison-ford-raining-gif-1142834851059906733

[edgy laurel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/short-round-short

[graceful ginkgo]

Nothing & I noticed when starting the PC, the RAM will flicker before becoming RGB

[graceful ginkgo]

Should I send a video of it?

I also need to hold the power button for a while before it shuts off

[cosmic gazelle]

well probably disconnect power, press the power button to discharge, and reseat your ram

do the fans ever ramp down

[graceful ginkgo]

How do I reseat my RAM?

I didn’t build this PC so I’m clueless

[topaz veldt]

How did I not realize Gnome can do this?

[cosmic gazelle]

before you do anything turn the pc off, pull the plug out of the PSU, and press the power button a couple of times

[edgy laurel]

wait, what

[topaz veldt]

right?

[graceful ginkgo]

Done & I held it as well

[edgy laurel]

like.. vanilla RDP?

[topaz veldt]

yes

[pure garnet]

plasma has one too apparently

[edgy laurel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hold-on-wait-a-minute-2

[cosmic gazelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKR5xRsOhNg

[topaz veldt]

I was dreading setting up VNC

[pure garnet]

https://github.com/KDE/krdp

[cosmic gazelle]

a visual guide, super easy once you've done it once

[edgy laurel]

can I... connect to my cachy box..

like out of the box

[pure garnet]

is your cachy box on plasma

[edgy laurel]

yeah

[pure garnet]

if so probably

[topaz veldt]

or gnome latest

[fringe vigil]

[wraith steeple]

I should give Cachy a test drive sometime

[topaz veldt]

I was not a fan

[wraith steeple]

[topaz veldt]

because of how it does its installation

[edgy laurel]

i don't like linux desktop but this has been the longest running distro i've used. I almost kinda like it

but if something breaks i'm still in the dark

[topaz veldt]

try fedora w/ plasma

[edgy laurel]

i broke Discord by doing the internal update. otherwise its fine

[topaz veldt]

Fedora just works

[pure garnet]

i boot into arch to do homework then reboot back to windows when im done

[topaz veldt]

thats flatpack for you

[cosmic gazelle]

i'm going to get crucified for this but everything i've done on linux on the t8300 laptop has been carried by claude code giving me terminal input

[pure garnet]

fedora gave me issues with the nvidia driver

and by issues, once the install finished, the os never booted again

[topaz veldt]

welcome to linux

[edgy laurel]

I got it through the built in package manager though, not flatpak. think it was called pacman

[graceful ginkgo]

The angle required to do it properly is impossible to get

[topaz veldt]

oh right.... arch, its prob from AUR

[cosmic gazelle]

you can't just reach behind that fan and get at the clip?

[edgy laurel]

i did mess around with flatpak.org but the internet seems to hate it

[pure garnet]

flatpak is good

[topaz veldt]

most distros today use flatpack for everything

[graceful ginkgo]

I hate to sound slow but I deadass can’t

I just clipped my thumb on the fan

[topaz veldt]

its kind of nice if you .... adjust

[cosmic gazelle]

also why is your ram still lit up if you disconnected power

[graceful ginkgo]

I know I’m not supposed to do it while running but I tried while it was unplugged & I can’t

[pure garnet]

bro unplug it

[cosmic gazelle]

dude you're gonna kill your ram

[graceful ginkgo]

I’m not able to unseat it regardless

[cosmic gazelle]

well unless some other troubleshooting step fixes the issue, a ram reseat is gonna need to happen one way or another

[graceful ginkgo]

What are other options?

I’ve already unplugged/replugged, turned it off & on & put the DisplayPort in the motherboard to no avail

[wraith steeple]

YUM is like 90-5% similar to APT from what I recall. It didn't feel too foreign

[graceful ginkgo]

All this fucking money on this piece of shit to give me an issue not even a year after getting it built

[cosmic gazelle]

it was booting normally the entire time until now?

[graceful ginkgo]

Yeah & in the past, the fans would spin fast & the PC would take a while to turn on but it would eventually

Now the fans spin slow & nothing happens

[cosmic gazelle]

what kind of power supply are you using, can you see the sticker/label on it

if it isn't just a ram reseat then it kinda sounds like a psu fault but i could be ignorant here

guilty would know more

[graceful ginkgo]

My motherboard is a ASUS Pro Art X870E Creator WiFi & the PSU is a be quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 1500W

[pure garnet]

why don't you start with a cmos reset before things failing

[cosmic gazelle]

oh well theres no way in hell that thing is dead

[graceful ginkgo]

How?

[edgy laurel]

I think more beginners should be required to watch Greg Salazar's Fix or Flop series. I think they're just entertaining but I also firmly believe that a few episodes of that (since hes always working on the same no boot issue) that people will get an idea how to work on a basic no post issue.

[cosmic gazelle]

he probably needs to remove his gpu for that kyoko which kinda seems above his pay grade

no offense

[pure garnet]

push the button below your hdmi port on the back of the motherboard

[graceful ginkgo]

None Taken

[cosmic gazelle]

oh yeah that exists

[pure garnet]

it's labeled "clear cmos"

you may need to be unplugged or plugged in so may as well do it both ways

[cosmic gazelle]

my ass deals with so many ancient motherboards that a clear cmos button is a myth to me 😂

[pure garnet]

then try and boot, it'll take awhile since it'll be reset

[edgy laurel]

i wonder how many people have connected displays to that DP port expecting for it to work

[wraith steeple]

Moving the jumpers

[cosmic gazelle]

is the dp in for like, a drawing tablet or something?

[edgy laurel]

From your GPU for Thunderbolt / USB4 display passthrough @cosmic gazelle

[graceful ginkgo]

These lights were on before I hit the button now they’re off

What now?

They’re back on now

[cosmic gazelle]

did any behavior change

[graceful ginkgo]

The fans are spinning fast

[cosmic gazelle]

ok let it sit there for a few minutes and see if it boots

[graceful ginkgo]

They’re slowing down now but not as slow as they were before

They’re slow now to the same as before

[edgy laurel]

like this

[pure garnet]

those 2 lights are just ethernet status

[cosmic gazelle]

is there a particular need for this? are some monitors tb only or something

[pure garnet]

what color is the led up this way rn

[graceful ginkgo]

Those lights are off while the PC is on right now

[edgy laurel]

Yeah I mean, on desktops its super niche. TB only displays are the only real reason I can think of.

[pure garnet]

is the pc on rn

[edgy laurel]

but it'll send the GPU signal out over one of the TB/USB4 Type C ports along with USB signals

[cosmic gazelle]

doesn't that mean he's booted

do you still not have a display

[graceful ginkgo]

Yes but it’s not doing shit after the button was hit

The fans spinned loudly at first but now it’s quiet as a mouse

[graceful ginkgo]

No display on my monitor

[cosmic gazelle]

this might be a stupid question but the OSD pops up if you press your monitor's controls right

[pure garnet]

green means the computer posted

so try another displayport cable or hdmi

[graceful ginkgo]

I hit my monitor power button & this popped up

[pure garnet]

okay the monitor was off

[cosmic gazelle]

bros monitor was off

[graceful ginkgo]

Maybe I needed to hit the power button all along

[pure garnet]

hit f1 to enter the bios

[graceful ginkgo]

That’s embarrassing as fuck

[edgy laurel]

is this real life

[pure garnet]

then turn back on amd expo

[graceful ginkgo]

I’m ashamed

[pure garnet]

then touch nothing else lowkey

[graceful ginkgo]

How?

[pure garnet]

send a pic of the bios

should be a clickable button in ez mode which it defaults to

[edgy laurel]

florida

[cosmic gazelle]

@graceful ginkgo where it says expo

damn 500 dollar motherboard

[edgy laurel]

only board you can use in a PA602

[cosmic gazelle]

how's that possible

is it proprietary?

[edgy laurel]

its not, but it should be

or any other ProArt board

[cosmic gazelle]

it's kind of nice having someone around more ignorant than me for a change

takes the heat off a little yknow

kidding 😉

[pallid marsh]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ddr5/turkish-wedding-party-receive-rtx-5090-ram-and-intel-cpu-wedding-gifts-a-turkish-tech-delight-for-the-ai-age

[cosmic gazelle]

this guy when the market shifts to riscv in 2 years and all other cpus spontaneously combust

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-gif-8086630669522815021

@pure garnet are trefi instability errors something that only show up once the ics reach a steady temperature or is it kinda random

[cosmic gazelle]

how are hardware companies supposed to appeal to anime fans otherwise

[pure garnet]

they show up when the dimm gets too hot if that makes sense

when you're changing the refresh rate the ram has to hold the charge for longer

and if gets too hot it can't hold the charge long enough

[fervent scaffold]

Currently trying to boot a system, just upgraded cpu, mobo, and ram from am4 to am5, and he doesnt want to wipe his current nvme to re install windows

What are my options here, are there any?

[merry stirrup]

absolutely not

[pure garnet]

i mean realistically? just reinstall chipset drivers

it's not optimal but it doesn't really matter

[merry stirrup]

7% performance loss (if that) oh no

https://klipy.com/gifs/earth-globe-4

[pure garnet]

you're not moving cross vendor or from dual ccd x3d to non x3d or changing core types so

[merry stirrup]

yeah

dual ccd my worlds largest op

[pure garnet]

not like the os is really very cooked

[pure garnet]

they install that driver on the 1 ccd parts too 🥀

[edgy laurel]

inb4 mbr

[merry stirrup]

yeah i know i just dont like dual ccds

[merry stirrup]

auuugghhh

[merry stirrup]

yeah its not on tho so its not like its doin anything

[edgy laurel]

yeah you want to uninstall and reinstall the chipset driver to the right parts are installed and setup

[fervent scaffold]

Is that through bios?

[merry stirrup]

i installed my NPU driver today and a random windows issue i had on shut down disappeared

so i mean, W ig lol

[merry stirrup]

(id get a random powershell error on shut down)

idk if its camo or drivers but my igpu doesnt like handling my 1440p 60 webcam

i gotta go to 1080p 30 for the output not to be shitty

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah that clarifies thanks

[fringe vigil]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mr-bean-mrbean

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP89KwHkP/

[edgy laurel]

Ok that is absolutely incredible

The detail

The peeling sticker on the side

The yellowing plastic

Needs to be two of them

Can’t remember if that particular shape was Harmon Kardon or Altec Lansing

[turbid locust]

too big lunch ruined dinner fuck

was gonna go to a nice place but I’m literally just not hungry lmao

[merry stirrup]

RAHHHH I GOT A TEXT BACK

MSP TECH INTERVIEW RAAHHH

[arctic bronze]

good job and good luck dude

o7

[fervent scaffold]

I will collect all evga generations

[edgy laurel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/you-got-this-iu

I'd hire you

(probably)

[merry stirrup]

im pretty decent at this stuff when im getting paid for it

[uncut axle]

Am i gonna blow up?

[merry stirrup]

i hope

[edgy laurel]

integer overflow

@steel stream probably knows why when numbers get too big for a field they start over in negatives

tl;dr shitty software

[topaz veldt]

its a good will sticker lol

[edgy laurel]

that level of detail is

[pure garnet]

i need a superstrike

[edgy laurel]

I feel like we're all ok with hating it, we just wanna find out on our own

[pure garnet]

honestly i do actually want one

i like the gpw shape and the lack of clicks is appealing

[edgy laurel]

custom clicks

or, the feel of it at least

[pure garnet]

you can make it flat but i meant the lack of a click noise too

[edgy laurel]

i'm sure that'll fuck with your head for a minute or two

but be easy to adjust too

[topaz veldt]

I dunno why but 9950X3D and 5090 in an 18L box is hilarious

[fringe vigil]

[turbid locust]

I want to try a superstrike, I need a mouse with that tech that isn’t Logitech

[edgy laurel]

the natural next step is going smaller

[fringe vigil]

[edgy laurel]

there is a path forward

[topaz veldt]

i dunno this is kinda perfect balance

like... 9950X3D smaller means throttling

[edgy laurel]

na. not with water

[topaz veldt]

what can fit a 5090 (non FE) and a 280mm aio

and is smaller

[edgy laurel]

no no, all custom

[topaz veldt]

If you can find me an example I'll check it out

[edgy laurel]

not 5090, but we've shown Optimum's builds before with 4090's

[topaz veldt]

the prob is there are no more pump/block combos

[topaz veldt]

I have an extra 5090 TUF OC block, fans, tubing, fittings, and AM5 waterblock(s), but theres no decent res/pump combo

[edgy laurel]

https://modultra.com/shop/ols/products/modultra-pump-block-plain-heatsink-combo

res-less.

just.. lots of painful bleeding

[cosmic gazelle]

hey dude it’s illegal to have the sun in your bedroom

[topaz veldt]

There is zero chance that's adequately cooling a 9950X3D and 5090

[edgy laurel]

i gotta find the one where he's got 3 240's in there somehow

he's done a number of these. that one was very, very custom.

[topaz veldt]

Like I said I know I can jam parts in, but I don't feel confident that those are going to support 700W of heat

[cosmic gazelle]

i just want to put my hand next to the exhaust of one of those builds, it has to be so incredibly hot

[topaz veldt]

You should feel the heat that comes out the front of my build

The front is on the left - the rear is intake

[cosmic gazelle]

my rear exhaust during gaming i would just describe as “feels like a space heater on low”

[topaz veldt]

all the fans are "backwards"

[cosmic gazelle]

and i thought the build im doing was compact lol

[topaz veldt]

That's now a 9950X3D w/ 5090 TUF OC

[cosmic gazelle]

to be fair the case i’m using only has 1x120mm and 1x80mm fan slots and the rest of it is solid

so i may have used an arctic server rack fan for the 80mm to hedge my bets

😭

[cosmic gazelle]

is this case made specifically around the d15? seems too close to be coincidence

[topaz veldt]

no

[cosmic gazelle]

or is the d15 just a common tower height

[topaz veldt]

its just "large air cooler" height

[cosmic gazelle]

how long does a build like that take to assemble properly

[topaz veldt]

not too long honestly

there's a couple of "ah shit, that had to go in first..." type things

[cosmic gazelle]

some day when i convince my future wife to let me build her a pc she won’t use ill do an extreme sff build

[topaz veldt]

I have a fractal terra which is a good amount smaller, but it can't fit anything but an FE, and then on the CPU side you need a like 55-60mm low profile cooler

so a 9800X3D / 5090 FE would be OK, but still prob have to limit the 9800X3D

[edgy laurel]

that thing was the key to going small.

does anything like that exist for 5090?

[topaz veldt]

no

Even the TG cooler which has the ports at the rear is still huge

[edgy laurel]

hmm

[topaz veldt]

see how much it sticks out vs the PCIe slot plate

[edgy laurel]

yeah thats huge

[topaz veldt]

and its like 10" long

[fringe vigil]

Guys be quiet for 1 minute

[edgy laurel]

this is interesting https://www.aquatuning.com/en/watercooling/custom-watercooling/gpu-cooler/gpu-complete-cooler/5000-series/wak-ek-water-blocks-ek-pro-gpu-wb-zotac-rtx-5090

dunno if they have models for more cards

[topaz veldt]

prob not

[edgy laurel]

wait!

https://www.aquatuning.com/en/watercooling/custom-watercooling/gpu-cooler/gpu-complete-cooler/5000-series/wak-alphacool-es-rtx-5090-reference-1-slot-design-with-backplate

[topaz veldt]

yeah thats for FE

[edgy laurel]

reference, not FE

[topaz veldt]

oh sorry "reference"

[edgy laurel]

but still

[topaz veldt]

yep which we do not get

[cosmic gazelle]

snail do you know what the specific liters number for that case is / what’s it called if you don’t

[topaz veldt]

Mine?

[cosmic gazelle]

the one you send the pic of

[topaz veldt]

its 18Lish

Mine has no feed because its inverted

[edgy laurel]

19.57

[topaz veldt]

with feet

[cosmic gazelle]

oh ya the one i’m doing is 18.6 with microatx which is pretty impressive imo

[topaz veldt]

ok 18.9L

[cosmic gazelle]

it’s a shitty case but it was the best for my specific scenario

i would have done a silverstone gd09 htpc setup but those are basically vaporware

[topaz veldt]

I came up with a trick way to get the "backside" NVMe cooler...

that back port on this mobo is PCIe 5.0 x4

but yeah @edgy laurel my prob is fitting a block on any reasonably available 5090, and then I have to either pretend a 240/280mm single rad will cool 600W + CPU

or not lol

That said I swapped the 9850X3D for the 9950X3D this afternoon in about 30 mins, which is hell of a lot nicer to deal with

[pure garnet]

@shell void https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/1r6pyw2/x2_superstrike_fingertip_mod_wip_but_might_keep/

[edgy laurel]

haptics off?

that I don't understand

so no sound or physical feedback that you're pressing a button?

[shell void]

this has got to be a shitpost

[edgy laurel]

thats an expensive shitpost

[shell void]

"yeah i sawed my mouse and then turned off the feature that i bought it for"

[topaz veldt]

Lolol

[low sorrel]

massive gains here bois

[topaz veldt]

@low sorrel there's no motivation for me

Have like $12M

Almost very BP duplicated

Lvl 75, every side quest done

[pure garnet]

i might try that when i get it just to see

[low sorrel]

im trying to grind money thats it

[cosmic gazelle]

this is why no other extraction shooter lasts besides eft

there is so much content that this point never happens unless you are severely unemployed

[steel stream]

yeah just integer overflow, something gets read wrong and it sets the first bit to a 1 which makes it negative

program is messed up and reading from the wrong address or smth

[low sorrel]

I'm having so much fun trying to kill the matiarch that dies before the 5 minute mark

[cosmic gazelle]

yo does anybody know if having c states and speedstep enabled with manual voltage on a moderate overclock is harmful by “shocking” the chip with voltage when it receives a load, no one online has any consistent info about this

i can’t even find reliable info about whether speedstep and c1e ever drop voltage at all with manual voltage

[fervent scaffold]

Super rough estimate on value for a Asus Tuf X570 plus wifi with 8x4 G skill ddr4 + 5800x and wraith prism?

In USD*

[cosmic gazelle]

i sold a very similar combo on ebay for $335 a few months ago when memory wasn’t quite as bad yet

[fervent scaffold]

Okay cool so I can expect somewhere around there

Not trying to gouge people for DDR4 lol

[cosmic gazelle]

i would expect around 300 as i got more than i deserved imo

[nimble pike]

Honestly, you should build a system with that and sell it that way.

If you were local to me I'd buy it off of you lol

[fervent scaffold]

I heavily thought about it because I also have a 2080 super, case, and 550w psu sitting around. But I was going to use that stuff for another build

[nimble pike]

I love the TUF X570s

[fervent scaffold]

You in US?

[nimble pike]

Ye

[fervent scaffold]

State?

[nimble pike]

I'm in the US Northeast

[fervent scaffold]

So am I, PM me just to see

If you’re interested in it

[green marsh]

when local LLM is hammering your GPU, but the aftermarket cooler is too good

[wheat void]

LLMs just pitch a tent in your vram

They don't work a gpu like an uncapped frame rate does

[green marsh]

you skipped the GPU power number. For short bursts (10s of seconds) they do work the GPU out.

[wheat void]

You know how booting a game up just makes your GPU coil whine like a mf in the loading screen

[green marsh]

not saying it is a constant load, but they do have moments (which was in this case where it was loading 120-250W for few minutes

[wheat void]

It's that kinda load

[green marsh]

(to be honest i only trying to learn how to communicate correctly with LLMs to do software development work for me, because it seems soon my work will require me to do this at work, and thus i better be prepared, even if on this setup it works painfully slow)

[wheat void]

It's the exact opposite of a web browser query

it's def a unique skill to develop

You have to know how to iterate yourself to iterate with it

[green marsh]

nah, so far it feels like writing a technical specification with lot of extra micromanagement (use framework X, add these specific features using these libraries etc)

[wheat void]

But you are always the bottleneck with it. If you weren't you'd be a millionaire by now

[green marsh]

right now the bottleneck is the poor local LLM working at speed of 1t/s or so 😄

[wheat void]

I never got too far with that. Mostly cause I don't have data I would want to train one with

[green marsh]

i mean i run something like qwen3-coder:30b, already existing model

in chat mode it does 15-20t/s, but obviously running it via Cline and hammering it with codebase slows it down significantly

[wheat void]

12b quantized models man...over onnyx amd is all I could get

Oh man if your codebase is more than like. A subdirectory or two you are

Pushing that token budget

[green marsh]

well, this is an initial test, on a dedicated PC running in corner, for early learning. I suspect in a month or two i will have to learn using Claude Code with that $200/month sub, but as i said, for start this is still going to work, to get the basic grip of doing things

i mean it runs in background, via RDP, on another system, so i check on it once in a while

[livid flame]

What’s the GPU memory temperature

[green marsh]

no sensor for that

[green marsh]

but let's say the metal plate over all the RAM and VRM is hot to touch, but not burning hot (i could rest my fingers on it)

[serene mirage]

is this legit or fake website
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/process-explorer

[topaz veldt]

legit

[devout ridge]

the greed they talk about in the bible

[topaz veldt]

https://videocardz.com/newz/someone-leaked-an-msi-geforce-rtx-5090-2500w-bios-but-you-probably-should-not-use-it

[topaz veldt]

if you saw my desk right now

[livid flame]

That NDA did a good job

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-rico-yes-rico-kaboom-gif-24767016

[burnt socket]

this is the kind of power that needs 240 volts

12 volt requires 208 amps

what the fuck

[turbid locust]

if ya squint it’s mint

[devout ridge]

if i could see it, half of the ram would be missing by the time i left

[topaz veldt]

I felt like this part was judging me

[turbid locust]

Arguably the most tasteful ND Miata I’ve seen

even with the big wang gang spoiler lmao

[topaz veldt]

tow hooks are stupid

[brisk jolt]

nah u missin out

theres one stock power s2k with a shit ton of downforce using a big fat wing and overexcessive cannards

[turbid locust]

Listen I said specifically ND Miata’s, the bar isn’t high

[final glacier]

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/memory/many-consumer-electronics-manufacturers-will-go-bankrupt-or-exit-product-lines-by-the-end-of-2026-due-to-the-ai-memory-crisis-phison-ceo-reportedly-says/

[brisk jolt]

Personally I’d keep a ND stock- feels wrong to mod it that way tbh

The wing should be a great help for the distribution though

[livid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/mazda-miata-mazda-miata-mx-5-mia-and-tia-gif-13019898107877516323

[cosmic gazelle]

woah nsfw

😉

[edgy laurel]

that wing ain't it

[turbid locust]

It’s kinda funny

[edgy laurel]

MEAT

[fringe vigil]

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-meme-gif-15072913808165980036

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/aemeath-gif-5608446847285502440

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/mha-my-hero-academia-all-might-scream-anime-gif-2759541560069631282

[fringe vigil]

[final glacier]

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/valve-breaks-its-silence-on-steam-deck-oled-scarcity-and-yes-its-because-of-the-ram-and-storage-crisis/

[cosmic gazelle]

yo i’m still learning all this stuff so give me some leeway here

but does this shitty dell motherboard have 6 vrm phases?

[arctic bronze]

yes

[arctic bronze]

https://youtu.be/gkMIIL5RNmQ?si=3thpCo-HiPPkpqoJ

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah i was just surprised because i thought 6 was a good amount but this specific pc is like the biggest POS i own 😭

[balmy pumice]

God I hope not

[cosmic gazelle]

is there a specific reason a low end oem board would come with 6

doesn’t seem necessary

[arctic bronze]

well, its low end

[devout ridge]

6 isn’t a lot

[cosmic gazelle]

oh i thought most low end boards had 4

it’s coffee lake btw

if that makes a difference

[frank zealot]

in 2026 news that... I still can't comprehend...

Ticket to Ride (yes that board game) is getting a netflix movie/series? (IDK)

I also do not understand how THAT game of all things is getting a movie

[devout ridge]

that’s a lot of coffee

[cosmic gazelle]

hmm i checked a 12th gen dell i also have and it also has 6

[devout ridge]

coffee lake is 100% a reference to the amount of coffee engineers drink while crunching to get a new gen out

[cosmic gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/you-think-u-funny-laugh-kanye-west-lol-fake-laugh-gif-15065402

[frank zealot]

because most oem boards are running non-K chips and therefore lower power budget

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah i have a haswell dell that wont deliver more than 65 watts on higher wattage chips

it’s a hard cap

[frank zealot]

it's one way they pinch pennies

[topaz veldt]

also not all phases are for the CPU power

[cosmic gazelle]

the other being selling gaming pc’s that have such anemic coolers that they immediately spike to 95 and start throttling when you start a game 😭 my buddy has one that does this

[cosmic gazelle]

do tell

[topaz veldt]

usually 1 or 2 stages reserves for SOC

[frank zealot]

RAM and some other components get fed off those, too, IIRC.

[cosmic gazelle]

interesting ok

[topaz veldt]

not RAM - they just have voltage convertersion

I think there might be dedicated VR for memory, but its only like..... 5W so it doesn't need anything

[cosmic gazelle]

so like do wrx90 boards have like, 50 vrm phases lmao

[topaz veldt]

no

In fact many server boards/etc. do not have as many VRM stages as enthusiast boards

[cosmic gazelle]

close enough to 50 lol

[topaz veldt]

Thats not massive, though

Its all in accordance to what is being controlled

when you have a 6-16 core CPU with 24 stages, that's massive

when you have a TR with 64-96 cores with 32 stages that is not massive

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah i was just referring to the 1000 watt 9995wx video and thinking “how do the vrms not explode”

[topaz veldt]

it becomes physically space limited to have anything more

[frank zealot]

dual epyc board:

[topaz veldt]

remember that the stages do not really handle current max

its more of a "quality of power" thing

[cosmic gazelle]

it really is a significant step up from “i know how to build a pc easily” to “i can explain how everything intricately works” so forgive me lol

[topaz veldt]

If you want a really, really good read on how this shit works from like a topology perspective

You're going to be confused when I say this

VMware vSphere 6.5 Host Resources Deep Dive

[cosmic gazelle]

you’re right that was not what i was expecting hahaha but ill check it out

[topaz veldt]

It has VMware specific elements, of course, but:

They talk about QPI vs ring etc.

it does not have infinity fabric or tile, its older, but its still very relevant

[livid flame]

Space and because power output should be consistent?

Well Power usage more than output

[cosmic gazelle]

perhaps this is why i hear that even industry experts still don’t really understand how we make lithography machines do what they do lol

[topaz veldt]

well because EPYC/TR are not being overclocked to the moon, vdroop and shit is allowable and so a 12-16 stage VRM for a socket is more than enough usually

One of my favorite classrooms to take people into at work is NUMA and sub-NUMA clustering

https://frankdenneman.nl/posts/2022-09-21-sub-numa-clustering/

Sub-NUMA clustering is becoming a very relevant thing with the architecture of CPUs going forward

so 3 years ago Frank was saying how its really reserverd for latency-sensitive apps like VOIP/etc.

but moving on to tile design and shit is going to get complicated if you want it optimized

[fringe vigil]

[hoary hatch]

Real talk

[arctic bronze]

fake talk

[hoary hatch]

Do I sell my spare ddr4
Or do I just keep it as backups since I've already gotten my worth out of it over the years

[fringe vigil]

[devout ridge]

nah it ain’t worth much, better give it to me so i can dispose of it for ya

[cosmic gazelle]

i have consistently been selling d4 for at least $60/16gb

[hoary hatch]

Have you heard of "glitter bombing"

Just give me your address and I'll totally send you ddr4 and not several envelopes full of glitter

[topaz veldt]

how much we talkin

like 4 DIMMs?

Keep it not worth the headache from whoever buys it

[hoary hatch]

No like ancient 16gb kits

[topaz veldt]

360 DIMMs? How much do you want 🙂

[hoary hatch]

The LPX dimms say 6th gen on the label

[devout ridge]

if you include a single ddr4 dimm in that i’d be more than happy to deal with the glitter

[hoary hatch]

Surely you can get 16gb on marketplace for like 40 bucks somewhere near you

I actually don't have enough DDR4 dimm slots to plug this all into

[devout ridge]

i need ecc tho

[hoary hatch]

This isn't ecc

[devout ridge]

oh nvm, keep your paper weights

[hoary hatch]

Why would I own ECC

This is Skylake era dimms I am selling

[cosmic gazelle]

you'd be surprised

anything below 50 gets swallowed up almost instantly

[hoary hatch]

I may be better off trying to sell my Xeon board/CPU/ddr4 as a bundle for like $80

[cosmic gazelle]

are you allowed to post "make me an offer" listings on hwswap or do they not like that

[hoary hatch]

Idk

On marketplace I expected people to low-ball me and I would have accepted but so far I have 0 interest in my ram lmao

[green marsh]

was literally going to say "someone got in your warehouse"

having said that 128GB RAM is nice for LLM, but DDR4-2133 ain't it. It does like 1 line of code per 10 seconds or so 😄

(but hey, at least it is working, so i can improve my skills without paying a cent)

[topaz veldt]

DDR4-2133 is more than enough if you have enough channels

[green marsh]

quad channel only

[topaz veldt]

that is your problem

[green marsh]

i ain't spending money on this, i just use what i got 😄

worst case scenario i will ask work for one of these https://frame.work/sk/en/products/framework-desktop-mainboard-amd-ryzen-ai-max-300-series?v=FRAFMK0006

[topaz veldt]

like... this is not bad

[frank zealot]

I want one, but I also know I can't afford one.

[merry stirrup]

yeesh

[steel stream]

unholy

[hoary hatch]

This in USD?

[lavish moth]

Yes it's in USD you imbecile

[hoary hatch]

Criminal

[pure garnet]

who shit in your coffee

[lavish moth]

Wdym

[hoary hatch]

Would be funny if they drank the money shit coffee

[brisk jolt]

mb i thought this was in hell notes

[hoary hatch]

I mean cat shit coffee*

[pure garnet]

i thought it was dabloons

we all could’ve been very misinformed if not for navy

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-gunn-eww-gross-yuck-meme-disgusting-sticks-tongue-out-gif-1716626911192888665

[steel stream]

Navy is the real TC2 mvp

[topaz veldt]

I fuggin love enterprise shit...

[brisk jolt]

I mean kopi luwak exists but… too high class for his tastebuds

[topaz veldt]

swapped B2 with A2.... no more errors

[brisk jolt]

its shat out by an actual cat through its digestive system xd

[frank zealot]

you realize that a number of currencies use the $ symbol beyond just USD, right?

and FB Marketplace also exists all around the goddamned world

[lavish moth]

It's most likely USD

[brisk jolt]

oh no however many other countries also use $!

[merry stirrup]

watch him also convert his currency to usd too just so nothing we say is accurate

[pure garnet]

is the 2011 in your username your birth year

[merry stirrup]

probably

[lavish moth]

It's my birth year

[pure garnet]

👶

[brisk jolt]

Dude I had a cousin born in 2011- Called me an unc and inside Im thinking “you really dont wanna knock on the wrong door”

[merry stirrup]

my cousin is 3 years younger than me

he called me an unc yesterday

almost blew up his computer fr

[brisk jolt]

“I have the power to destroy and create you little twat”

[cosmic gazelle]

yes

[merry stirrup]

quite criminal

[topaz veldt]

9950X3D with basically silent fan curve in NCase M3 - NH-D15 G2, 72-73F ambient

I ordered a 280mm AIO I am going to try with similar noise fan curve and see how it compares

[pure garnet]

there is no way you’re unc bro

you’re like a youngin

[cosmic gazelle]

it’s a pretty card to be fair lol

[pure garnet]

i sent floppa like the same design 970 for free

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean yeah it’s a 760 it’s worth like 5 bucks but it’s a nice looking paper weight 😂

[frank zealot]

if it's in a box and complete? as EVGA it might be worth a collectible

[teal zinc]

my pc kept switching to integrated graphics for some odd reason

i spent 2 days trying to find why

and i found that the plastic thing that locks the gpu in the pcie slot was open and it was causing my gpu to disconnect for some reason

[merry stirrup]

i mean technically yes i am

[pure garnet]

no you are not

[brisk jolt]

better unc than dinosaur

[merry stirrup]

if it’s not classified or king pin it’s useless

[merry stirrup]

yes huh

[pure garnet]

oh floppa i swapped back to my superlight 2

[merry stirrup]

oh fire

i use my super light for my second computer

[pure garnet]

i await the superstrike imminently (haven't ordered yet)

[frank zealot]

those are just extra special cards

[merry stirrup]

cards that deserve constant glaze unlike the rest of what evga made

[frank zealot]

that's fair

[merry stirrup]

it’s cool and all to wanna collect gpus and i won’t stop anyone but yeah i don’t see the point of the glaze unless its kp/classified

[brisk jolt]

the anount of people who overvalue their shitty EVGA cards are not to be underestimated

[pure garnet]

evga support was good but you're statistically less likely to need support from another vendor

🔥

[inner sedge]

fr, people acting like evga was flawless just cause the rma was easy

[merry stirrup]

no fuse on my card with 500w transients let’s go

[brisk jolt]

yes floppa kaboom

[steel stream]

almost just shook my protein shake with the lid wide open 🔥

[teal zinc]

ok guys i need reccomendations for a keyboad
what i need:
-wireless
-60% or 75%
my budget is 150PLN (about 40 dollars)

[merry stirrup]

then let’s blame it on the lack of “good” caps

yesssss YESSSSS

[pure garnet]

40 dollars for wireless is uhhh

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-observe-seeing-i-saw-you-gif-5740825

[merry stirrup]

there’s that one logitech headset

[brisk jolt]

njce

[merry stirrup]

it’s like G435 i think

[pure garnet]

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/logitech-k120-full-size-wired-membrane-keyboard-for-pc-with-spill-resistant-design-black/J7H7ZLVX49/sku/1053557

[merry stirrup]

oh how did i read headset

[brisk jolt]

dude asking for a keyboard btw

[steel stream]

so close bud!

[pure garnet]

oh wait that's not the one i have

[merry stirrup]

SILENCE

[teal zinc]

😭 headset

[steel stream]

you'll get them next time floppa

[teal zinc]

i use speakers

[merry stirrup]

damn

maybe he does need one tho hold on

[brisk jolt]

dude is gonna broadcast his audio to the entire neighborhood

[pure garnet]

this what you need

[brisk jolt]

can we just slap him with “just get a monsgeek tmr 60%”

[teal zinc]

will it take up 99.99% of my desk

[merry stirrup]

uh you can definitely find a mech for that price but idk if you will in not america

[leaden dawn]

You dont need mouse space though. It has a touchpad

[steel stream]

if your desk is made for ants. then yes

[inner sedge]

so who’s the new go-to then, or are you just rolling dice with asus?

[merry stirrup]

bz made an interesting video today

[teal zinc]

touchpad 😭

[pure garnet]

i've had an asus and an msi card since then and 0 issues with both so far

[merry stirrup]

asus and galax likely make the best pcbs but as of now just buy what you can at this time in the market

[leaden dawn]

I mean if your desk can only fit that keyboard then.. you arent gonna have mouse space

[merry stirrup]

it’s mostly irrelevant but glaze for no reason is still silly

[teal zinc]

my desk is small cause my monitor stand is big af for some unknown reason

[brisk jolt]

MSI has like one of the worst RMA story count Ive been hearing recently

[teal zinc]

right inside the budget (idk if it's worth it tho)

[merry stirrup]

i e not had to rma anything

[merry stirrup]

if it’s hot swap it kinda doesn’t matter, looks good

hot swap means you can change the buttons out if you dislike them or if they have an issue

infinite keyboard glitch

[teal zinc]

no hotswap

[merry stirrup]

damn

[teal zinc]

wouldn't use that tbh, i don't mind the sound of keyboards

[merry stirrup]

you would use it when your buttons don’t work

[teal zinc]

i just need a small one that will give me space and no trouble with cables

[merry stirrup]

so you don’t have to spend another 150 on a keyboard

and more like 30 on new buttons for it lol

[teal zinc]

return policy

[merry stirrup]

years in the future my man? that’s what i’m getting at here

[teal zinc]

2 years of ''broken? bring we exchange (bring reciept)"

[merry stirrup]

ok

then whatever is fine

as long as it fits your needs

[teal zinc]

i mean it does

[merry stirrup]

that’s what i’m saying to you lol buy it then it’s a keyboard they’re generally not deep especially if you don’t care how they sound

[pure garnet]

i dont think there's a lot of appeal for a $40 usd keyboard being repaired with $30 of switches

[merry stirrup]

idk my keyboard was 50$ and has gone through 2 sets of switches

[pure garnet]

my keycaps were more than that 😭

[merry stirrup]

yeah i care much less about mine than you

i have an epo maker shadow x and just use it

as long as the keys don’t have problems and sound fine i’m pretty ok

[pure garnet]

im about 430 into my board

[topaz veldt]

I had one of those just stop working, but I did buy another

[pure garnet]

i use one of those when i go outside to bench

[brisk jolt]

man I just use a 60% he one for whatever

[merry stirrup]

yeah i’m not a freak so

[south quail]

That awkward moment after a gaming session and you realize you had comfy-ui running with your models loaded into vram and noticed not one performance issue...

[pure garnet]

it's not that much when you figure how long you'll have it for

[merry stirrup]

apply the logic to my board

[steel stream]

candians just touched the stone again!

can't stop cheating in curling

[brisk jolt]

I just realised mine’s also pretty close to yours

Damn.

[merry stirrup]

man 30 series card designs were pretty epic sometimes

[brisk jolt]

After seeing 50 series ventus I say I fw the 30 series ventus

[merry stirrup]

idk a lot of the cheap 30 series card designs were terrible

[brisk jolt]

My favourite 30 series design of all is probably the strix tbh, aint cheap shit but yeah

[merry stirrup]

oh yeah i loved the strix model looked very good

i had a mid gigabyte model

[pure garnet]

i had a 3080 xc3 ultra

it was trash

[merry stirrup]

3080 gaming oc thingy

idk mines top 30 in the world i cant call it trash

build quality is sub par

[pure garnet]

mine died so

[merry stirrup]

mines alive in my gfs rig

[pure garnet]

with a permanent power cap btw

i always ran it at like 75% tdp

[merry stirrup]

damn

i dailied my 3080 for a year at 600w

[pure garnet]

my whole pc that time was cursed

my 3080 died and my 13700k died

[merry stirrup]

my sisters computer was pretty cursed with that edge for a long time then it just didnt detect gpu's period

ig somehow one of the two people who work on it (me or her bf) knocked off caps by the slot and idk how its even worked this far

gonna get a rando b760 board

probably a mortar which is funny

[pure garnet]

the mpower returns in one way

[merry stirrup]

lmao yeah

i found one on ebay for like 90$ and thats honestly an ok price

[south shuttle]

ftw3 imo

[merry stirrup]

or theres some gigabyte one for 150 on wegg idk

ftw3 ultra was prety fire yeah

[pure garnet]

newegg or used

[merry stirrup]

really loved the lightbar

[merry stirrup]

newegg

[arctic bronze]

oldegg

[merry stirrup]

dont speak about old egg

[arctic bronze]

😡

[merry stirrup]

pg lightning for 110 new is pretty good but its all black

idk im not into non z boards

[brisk jolt]

other than the strix and ftw3 i cant think of any other good looking models that isnt exclusive exclusive

[lavish moth]

What about oldmom

[merry stirrup]

30 series vision wa really good

imo best vision so far

i think 40/50 series its renamed to aero

[pure garnet]

i no buy giggle byte unless i have to

[brisk jolt]

i think the vision is alright, interesting fan design but it doesnt giggle the right spot

[merry stirrup]

meh i dont mind gigabyte cards

[pure garnet]

i don’t but master/astral tier cards yet so

the gigabyte budget models had pcb cracking issues more than features

[brisk jolt]

40 series aero design was pretty nice, 5070Ti aero is also peak ngl

[merry stirrup]

5070ti prime is basic but im ok with it

[merry stirrup]

heres my gaming oc

[brisk jolt]

70ti prime is pretty nice in design compared to a ventus or a gigglebutt eagle ngl

[merry stirrup]

heard the same thing+ the prime actually has ok cooling

its not amazing and if i double the power limit ill certianly need to figure something out but

[pure garnet]

my trio is nice but i only own it bc michael got the trio

[brisk jolt]

except for the ventus being the worst both prime and eagle are quite equal in cooling

[merry stirrup]

yeah i wouldve had whatever mac had lol

[frank zealot]

@turbid locust this is absolutely bonkers
I didn't know this was possible (Yes, watch for the reveal, holy shit lol)

[brisk jolt]

the best air cooler model you could get would be aorus master/aero, same with strix

[merry stirrup]

i took out my gpu the other day and i forgot it was signed by him

jump scare

[pure garnet]

my friend has a 3070 master

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah but then you’d have to look at a gigabyte shroud every day

[shell void]

the trio is deceptively good even though it’s not thick and doesn’t have a vapor chamber

idk how but it’s fire

[merry stirrup]

msi always seems to make basic designs that perform well

[pure garnet]

yeah the vanguard is only a couple c cooler

[merry stirrup]

my msi cards were pretty good

i had some 9 series and 10 series thing i think idk

[pure garnet]

i’m all out of gpus

[cosmic gazelle]

it’s a shame a lot of ventus cards kinda suck because i love the aesthetics

[brisk jolt]

the only MSI card I’d be down to get would be the gaming trio, I dont like the vanguard

[merry stirrup]

idk what one i was gonna buy myself if i didnt buy macs. but i think it was just another prime

cause iirc there was a prime for 50$ more than i was buying it from mac (750) but it came with bl4

i didnt want to be mean to mac so i bought his

i have the box and everything to mine so its fine

[brisk jolt]

you left him high and dry with xx90 tier downtime when 60 series comes and he sells

[cosmic gazelle]

i have a ftw3 3080 because they said it had the best mosfet setup when that was a controversy, and the thing barely touches 70c under my current setup, but i can’t figure out how to oc nvidia cards with gpu boost so i just don’t bother lmao

[merry stirrup]

if you cant figure out how to oc gpus respectfully you need to dedicate more time to playing with things for oc

[steel stream]

terrible, but hilarious

[cosmic gazelle]

no like specifically getting around the gpu boost clocking down by itself

[merry stirrup]

you just have to work with that if youre not going to physically mod the card

[cosmic gazelle]

it won’t go above 2k regardless of what i do

[merry stirrup]

gpu boost clocking down by itself implies some form of limit

[cosmic gazelle]

i would presume power

[merry stirrup]

address the limit somehow, if its power try undervolting slightly so it can hit your target freq, if its cooling you know what to do, if its volts youre boned until you mod the card

[brisk jolt]

quite literally the main thing about GPU OC would just be to slam the power limit

[merry stirrup]

power limit then drag slider hope stable

if youre not after any insane scores then running a special os or specific drivers is pretty irrelevant

[cosmic gazelle]

i had a unit that undervolted pretty well and then I rmaed it trying to diagnose a weird issue i was having and my new one doesn’t undervolt as well

[merry stirrup]

L

[brisk jolt]

silicone diffed L

[merry stirrup]

my 3080 was pretty good iirc

[pure garnet]

daily drive weggos

meta solution

[merry stirrup]

id run something from liliene for that

[cosmic gazelle]

but lowkey even with undervolt dialed in i couldn’t get it to sustain 2010mhz so idk

[brisk jolt]

so far all my 50 series cards have undervolted pretty nicely, havent tried the 5070ti prime though

[merry stirrup]

then it wasnt dialed in lol

[cosmic gazelle]

it was at like 950mv stable

[pure garnet]

i haven’t tried gpu oc in forever because my 4070 was power limited hard and i haven’t cared with the 5070ti

[merry stirrup]

going too low can also make the card not want to hit the target freq

gotta pay attention to the perf cap reason

[shell void]

every undervolt tutorial on youtube is horrendous

[merry stirrup]

the one in the #overclocking pins is fine

[shell void]

they’ll be like “yeah we’re setting 2800MHz at 0.9v, youre only going to get 2600 ingame, but that’s fine”

[merry stirrup]

lmao

[shell void]

no bro you’re stretching by 200MHz because it’s unstable

[merry stirrup]

& then in a load where it can hit 2800 it crashes

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah idk i just miss my rx 570 when i could just go "hehehe slider go up card go fast weee"

[merry stirrup]

i mean 570s had a lot of cool software/not physical mods you could do the card

[brisk jolt]

I have mine limited to like 0.95v iirc

[shell void]

blackwell cards are brain dead easy to undervolt

just flatten it where the diminishing returns start which is 0.95v on a 5090

whoops i posted the pictures backwards but whatev

[merry stirrup]

idk i just run the same offset i have been daily since i got the card

+250 core +2500 mem lol

[brisk jolt]

I always just slammed mem down to 3k on every 50 series card ive had lol

[cosmic gazelle]

i think i'm also a little more apprehensive towards doing anything that could introduce instability to my daily system because if i get home from work and i have an hour to game before bed and my game crashes i'm just going to bed pissed off lmao

[merry stirrup]

i didnt want to be too aggressive for daily since it was my first day owning it but yeahn thats what i do in any bench

[brisk jolt]

my 70Ti prime also does similar to yours

[merry stirrup]

then its a good idea to get a second computer to do this

im personally not super bothered either way

i just like things to do with my computer

[cosmic gazelle]

hence the 4790k build i'm doing see it all comes back around

[pure garnet]

bro goes to bed at 8pm

[merry stirrup]

top 2% steel nomad (took 10 minutes) rahh

[merry stirrup]

yeah i like my 2nd computer to not suck generally though but to each their own

[cosmic gazelle]

i have to wake up at 5:20am some days for an internship

[pure garnet]

you're on am4 though

[cosmic gazelle]

i'm a college student brah i dont have money for 2 high end pcs 😭

[merry stirrup]

i dont even have a job bro

[arctic bronze]

dont look at me then ...

[merry stirrup]

unfortunately ryzen 5000 g for sure gaps haswell

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean yeah

[brisk jolt]

its great to see companies selling prebuilts with 5500s using a520 mobos with no built in wifi, 8gb of bumfuck slow ram, 256 gb gen 3 ssd and pairing all that with a 5060

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-look-the-other-way-look-away-awkward-weird-gif-17246188

[pure garnet]

yeah both of my systems are on am5 and i have 1851 in my closet

[arctic bronze]

me

[shell void]

what i posted won’t negatively affect stability at all, if anything it’ll be better

[merry stirrup]

i have like half of a high end computer and then a second average gaming pc

[pure garnet]

my 7800x3d+6700xt is a meta combo

[steel stream]

i've got one sorta high end PC, then an LG G5 in my living room LOL

[merry stirrup]

truuueee

[shell void]

since you’re not actually altering the voltage frequency curve, you’re just telling it to not boost as high

[cosmic gazelle]

well i could buy another higher end pc but my "girlfriend" wants me to "buy" her a "ring"

so theres that

[brisk jolt]

lets get you a new one

[merry stirrup]

thrift store my goat

[pure garnet]

ring pop meta

[merry stirrup]

fr

[patent gorge]

buy her a smart ring

[steel stream]

the guys in college, totally acceptable

[brisk jolt]

mod and give her a 14900KS ring

[merry stirrup]

cant even afford a case bro

[merry stirrup]

could give my gf my 13900KS on a keychain

but i put back the SMD cap i tore off on it so im gonna test it in whatever board i buy for my sister

[brisk jolt]

its a good alternative

[arctic bronze]

yeah, I have 1 definite high end pc, a pretty respectable nas, a computer with a 3090 and a 3060 12gig, a computer I gave my mom with an i7 12700 and like 2 more mid range gaming computers at home

[merry stirrup]

if it doesnt work its keychain time

but i kinda think it will but who knows

[steel stream]

most my money is in TVs and speakers tbh

[patent gorge]

CPU keychain would be kinda cool

[merry stirrup]

we're all the same person but with diff skill trees

[arctic bronze]

I need to sell alot of my pc shit tbh

once uni is over, thats what ima do

[merry stirrup]

i have 3 gpu keychains but cpus are cooler cause sanding them down makes them look insane

[brisk jolt]

potential man

[steel stream]

I should sell my Klipschs but I will keep them for a turntable

[edgy laurel]

hello there fellow kids

[arctic bronze]

bro i love my klipsch speakers

[patent gorge]

how does gpu keychain work, extract the main processor unit and make that a keychain?

[merry stirrup]

ive got 2 290x cores on a keychain and my HD 7960

[merry stirrup]

yeah just peel off the core and put a hole thru it

[edgy laurel]

inb4 ProMedia 2.1's

[arctic bronze]

what do you consider a kid XD

[steel stream]

which ones do you got?

[brisk jolt]

I should get a combusted 9800x3d and use that as a can opener

[merry stirrup]

i have a video somewhere of me doing it to a 290x, i literally jammed a screwdriver under the core and lifted it up

you very clearly dont do it to things that work

[edgy laurel]

Smart. Totally appreciating assets that'll pay off in the long term.