#tech-chat-2

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young void
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If it works ya know

south shuttle
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i’m in the top 3 joke countries of europe - 🇸🇰

brave panther
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How long of a warranty do they advertise?

wraith steeple
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Slovakia whoa

topaz veldt
south shuttle
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montech has been here for quite a while and their company is doing ok

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the platform they’re using is el qualito

topaz veldt
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I reached out to Corsair because the clip on my 12vhpwr cable broke and they had one to me like 3 days later w/ no questions

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Who knows what Montech would do

brave panther
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Issue is that if company gets shut down then that 10y warranty means shit

topaz veldt
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yup

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or if they have no in-country support the shipping is bullshit

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I just go Corsair or BeQuiet

brave panther
shell void
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@edgy laurel i keep seeing people talk about wanting a 5K/6K panel because they can game in the 1440p dualmode, but i think they’re missing the bigger picture

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DLSS Ultra Performance works great at 5K+

young void
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Im seeing 5-10 years for montechs. After checking reddit their hq seems on top of wanting to replace faulty units myte be solid as time goes on

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But still corsair biased in the meantime

shell void
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even when pixel peeping standing still

south shuttle
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i’d get the century personally a 20% discount is nice

livid flame
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The same Corsair that blamed revenue loss on the gta6 delay?

shell void
steel stream
shell void
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almost hits frame cap with just regular performance mode, don’t even have to use ultra performance

brave panther
shell void
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but it’s there if you want it locked to 138

young void
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Be like that sometimes, I need coffees

green marsh
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i wonder what happened to my Arctic P12's i had in storage. Today i pulled two of them out and they had broken arms somehow. Did i put something ont hem which broke them ? Oh well, they were like 20 euros for a 5 pack

young void
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Oofs no fun, cursed

south shuttle
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also if anyone needs i do psu fan swapping for free, you just need to ship me fan of your choice w the psu and pay me €1.1-€1.2 for the adapter itself

green marsh
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also today i noticed a typo in Machinist board BIOS 😄

young void
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I always keep a few cooler master halos sitting around but they are kinda spendy

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Comes with a controller I use from time to time

green marsh
young void
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I hear good things, i know snail likes them

wraith steeple
steel stream
young void
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Gotta make a hover helicopter pc with those being the dual to quad blades

raw zinc
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no

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we are known for paella not tacos

wraith steeple
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No need for me for the Chromax TBH. Considering it's in a solid side panel case, I don't see the pointShruge

raw zinc
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does overclocking make a big difference in performance?

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or is it slight

turbid locust
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ram oc can do wonders to 1% lows, everything else basically isn’t worth doing

steel stream
edgy laurel
south shuttle
south shuttle
frank zealot
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20 tabs open, mostly thingiverse stuff

Damn that's rough lol

south shuttle
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i mean 🇪🇸 -> 🇲🇽 -> 🌮

green marsh
steel stream
south shuttle
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they’re just bunch of stealheads

wraith steeple
south shuttle
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stealheads amplified by 10x

steel stream
fervent chasm
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my remote desktop app is getting pretty complicated now

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Added mic passthrough from the client to host

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If I was still trying to recreate GeForce Now I think all I'd have left is how to block the user from accessing anything other than steam

buoyant hedge
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Got a fully working Corsair K70 TKL champion series from Goodwill for $7 USD.

fervent chasm
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But Ive kinda shifted away from that into a full Remote Desktop app

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The last (very minor) change is support for AMD and Intel GPUs

topaz veldt
steel stream
fervent chasm
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I dont support software encoding, its too slow so if someone has AMD they cant use it

steel stream
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radeon GPUs don't deserve nice things

fervent chasm
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Maybe for H.264 it might work software but im not gonna support any software encoding

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Decoding is fine, even on software you can get sub ms decoding

steel stream
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or just make it only supported for 9070XT and say it'll come to older GPUs soon TM KEKW

fervent chasm
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What is supported is up to them

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And the app only chooses whats available

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if nothing is available boo hoo get a better pc sorry

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I tried forcing software encoding for testing and its just too slow

wraith steeple
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Speaking of 9070 XT, I should see if Father Bone wants my Merc 9070 XT or nothmm

fervent chasm
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atp I have more features than Chrome Remote Desktop

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Im really only missing file transfer

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vs

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too much yap in CRD for features that should be on by default anyway

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Im so close to releasing v.1.0.0 but I keep thinking of things to polish and add

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needs a logo/icon

raw zinc
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should i revert?

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yeah right

pure garnet
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what could “Results are considered unstable” mean otherwise

frank zealot
fringe vigil
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i need pc advice

pure garnet
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what’s up jorj

junior slate
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im building a new pc, im torn between getting an ryzen 7 7800x3d and a intel i7 12700k
anyone got any opinions on what to get

raw zinc
junior slate
turbid locust
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7800X3D is just blatantly faster

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if the same price or even close to the same price that’s the better option

junior slate
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only reason i was considering a 12700k bc ddr5 ram is like crazy prices bc the 7800x3d is ddr5 only right?

arctic bronze
turbid locust
arctic bronze
shell void
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8 cores in the big 26

arctic bronze
shell void
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i need my 16 cougars and 36 arctic wolves with extra cache as soon as possible

livid flame
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I need my big fuck off level 3 cache from Intel

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BFOC would have been better than bllc

turbid locust
shell void
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perchance

brisk jolt
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got some tomato cables

livid flame
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Because I’m on my phone I thought you had shattered glass in your ram slots

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Then I realised it’s those royal z’s

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That prettiness is wasted when all you want is the performance

brisk jolt
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I wouldve preferred if it wasnt royal Zs but it made the most sense for what I want at the time

fervent chasm
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oh maybe too niche reference

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thats integza, he hates tomatos ^

brisk jolt
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oh i thought that you thought I was mixing and matching PSU cables or some shit

livid flame
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Setsuna you normally don’t put case panels on do you?

fervent chasm
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nah he likes to do rocket stuff with 3d printers and sometimes blows up tomatos with them

brisk jolt
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No I do, this is just for show

livid flame
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Ah fair dos

fervent chasm
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a lot of rocket stuff

livid flame
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All ketchup, no mustard

pure garnet
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7800x3d is a good retro gaming cpu

hoary hatch
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Playing hooky today, what should I do

brisk jolt
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I considered getting copper coloured ones but went against it because I wanted some colour life inside

livid flame
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You can choose malice or banter. Friend or foe. Your choice of shite.

fervent chasm
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not me, but friend group

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i dont think i could do that

livid flame
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Oh I’ve done it

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There was a spate of people doing it in bags and lighting on fire in our area a couple of decades ago

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My friend said imagine waking up to someone’s shit on your doorsteps

fervent chasm
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there was a popular video going around at the time on youtube or something of someone doing it as a christmas prank and they decided to recreate it

brisk jolt
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A before and after but the shit’s swapped so technically an After and Before

livid flame
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So I did it, so he could tell me what it felt like

brisk jolt
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The stock cables were helluva long

brisk jolt
fervent chasm
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what GPU goes into that

brisk jolt
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Max? 5070

fervent chasm
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has to be the dual fan one right?

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thats a dumb question

livid flame
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Single fan exists iirc

fervent chasm
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for 5070??

livid flame
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Yeah

fervent chasm
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gotta be some dell thing

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they do shit like that

shell void
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colorful makes one

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china only afaik

fervent chasm
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is it possible to do GPU and CPU in the same water loop?

shell void
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yes

brisk jolt
fervent chasm
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I feel like that would make it feasible to get a hotter card in a tiny case

livid flame
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Colorful 5060ti and 5070

brisk jolt
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I’m gonna sell this 5070Ti for the 5070 mini if he could find one, quite literally

fervent chasm
brisk jolt
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5070 mini cost and “Thanks for helping/inconvenience” cost

livid flame
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It’s in an SFF pc. You don’t care about cooling

fervent chasm
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you right, undervolt the heat away

brisk jolt
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Yeah it’ll be a jet engine but its still gonna be fine

livid flame
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Also the rpm of that fan is high iirc

fervent chasm
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oof it looks like a smaller fan too

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gonna be loud

brisk jolt
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massive aura

livid flame
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3900 rpm

fervent chasm
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is it possible to add sound dampening or would that insulate the pc and make it hotter

brisk jolt
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gonna be shitting on gaming laptops in power output, performance, heat, noise and making the macbook users go chronically insane

shell void
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you can just slap an under volt on it and it’ll be quiet

fervent chasm
livid flame
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Colourful claims a full load 76c average temp

fervent chasm
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oh thats cool

livid flame
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So expect a hotspot of 100+

fervent chasm
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i thought it would be hotter

brisk jolt
shell void
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lul

fervent chasm
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i have no case fans rn and my 4090 is doing pretty well even when maxxing it out

shell void
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flash master bios and then put a 0.95v limit on it

fervent chasm
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I did open the case tho so thats probably why

shell void
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liquid metal it 🔥

fervent chasm
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im trying to find a 5090

brisk jolt
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these cables are highk good lookin

shell void
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probably easy to disassemble

brisk jolt
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I could grab a ATX board outta my ass and torture the SF850 by plugging it into a 5090 and 5070Ti combined

fervent chasm
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im still in 93rd 🥀

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this ram inflation needs to last a few more months so I can get the 2x64 fixed and sell off my 4x48

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no more 4 dimms

brisk jolt
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whats the point of showing off cables if you couldnt even see them

wraith steeple
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Isn't SFF and mATX more popular in Asia?

brisk jolt
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matx yes

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SFF I wont say really since ITX tax

wraith steeple
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I believe it, given the housing and spacing

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For mATX

brisk jolt
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I’d personally go ITX all day but I like myself a full ATX

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My HAVN HS420 also doubles down as a mini table where I charge all my stuff

fervent chasm
brisk jolt
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school laptops

fervent chasm
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theyre chonky

wraith steeple
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mATX I can live with

brisk jolt
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they’re running 13700HX and 32gb ram

wraith steeple
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Though SFF is hmmmmmmm

fervent chasm
wraith steeple
fervent chasm
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rich ass school

brisk jolt
fervent chasm
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we had decade old macs

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and chromebooks

brisk jolt
fervent chasm
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actually in college they were slightly newer

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but thats still much better

brisk jolt
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some also have macs but they’re more on video editing and stuff

fervent chasm
brisk jolt
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I hate how the tech block is infested with shit saying “for AI” “AI this AI that”

fervent chasm
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i remember someone mentioning how theyre way ahead of anyone else for video editing

steel stream
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@edgy laurel here we go

brisk jolt
fervent chasm
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pass it on to someone else

steel stream
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double it and give it to the next person

fervent chasm
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im trying to think of more remote desktop app features

brisk jolt
fervent chasm
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im getting writers block for coding

civic reef
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I have a sneaking suspicion that the reason I hear buzzing in my headphones ONLY on my PC is because the audio driver/whatever it's called in it is shite 💔

topaz veldt
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@edgy laurel OK Sally calm down

edgy laurel
edgy laurel
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Side note I’ve heard the MachE is an alright normal car

topaz veldt
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I have heard the same but it loses for me because it has the word Mustang in it

edgy laurel
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Yeah

topaz veldt
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@edgy laurel do you guys use ZScaler

edgy laurel
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No, haven't heard of it

topaz veldt
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ah - pretty popular RA VPN tech

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my wifes company uses it and its being an asshole

brisk jolt
topaz veldt
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I actually like the wheels

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they're too narrow and have no concave, but if they did, they'd be sick

steel stream
brisk jolt
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I cant they actually look like roblox’s rim model where its just a circle with a picture on top

steel stream
topaz veldt
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roblox is the pervert game right?

brisk jolt
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yeah the one that gets like 8000 new allegations over PDF files and shit everyday

topaz veldt
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Yeah fuck that thing

brisk jolt
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with braindead games being the most popular

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but those rims deadass give me the “printed paper of a picture” vibe

topaz veldt
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I would be OK if that game were banned

brisk jolt
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the best games on the platform always have like at best hundreds of players

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while all the braindead gambling ones get millions

steel stream
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ill never forget OG jailbreak

brisk jolt
topaz veldt
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I have Qty 32 1.6TB SAS3 12gbps SSDs

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I remember like 5-6 years ago that would be so amazing

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now I am like "meh, secure erase these effers and get them outta here"

steel stream
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me and friends got a private server

merry stirrup
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replaced the joysticks on 3 of my sisters ps5 controllers

topaz veldt
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@steel stream what should i bujy

merry stirrup
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no issues went well not a single controller had issues

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hot air makes it so ez

steel stream
topaz veldt
merry stirrup
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uh good luck

topaz veldt
brisk jolt
merry stirrup
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i can only imagine the ground plane on a 5090 will absorb quite a fuck ton of heat

steel stream
topaz veldt
merry stirrup
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waiting for popcorn pcb photos lol

topaz veldt
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Ain't my first rodeo my dude

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I went to school for EE 😛

turbid locust
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Easter Eggs

topaz veldt
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uhhh Egg Evaluation actually

pure garnet
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everyone at costco today was going crazy for a $60 vase of roses

topaz veldt
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yup

pure garnet
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just about got ran over for some paper towels

nimble pike
pure garnet
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why would the guy with 6 5090s want a low end radeon

nimble pike
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Uhhh... energy efficiency, duh

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(I didn't know OP had a 5090)

turbid locust
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AMD? Power efficient GPUs? lol.

merry stirrup
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lol

nimble pike
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The new ones are!

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The 9070xt consumes less than my 3080 did.

topaz veldt
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My 9070 XT used 340W

nimble pike
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Is it the regular 9070, then?

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I mean, they're not bad now. Compared to Vega and Polaris.

topaz veldt
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it was an XFX Mercury OC

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it made a good amount of heat

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it played Warzone great but other stuff not so much

turbid locust
nimble pike
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That's WAY better than they used to be.

turbid locust
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way better ≠ good lmao

nimble pike
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I will say the 9070xt is the most compelling offer from Radeon I've seen in 10 years of buying Nvidia

topaz veldt
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ehh maybe

nimble pike
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As a creator

topaz veldt
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if it wasnt like $800 for a decent one

merry stirrup
nimble pike
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Oh at MSRP

turbid locust
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up till about 2 months ago there was no reason to buy a 9070XT when the 5070Ti exists

low sorrel
fringe vigil
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rtehrteshresthrthrtuhrtujh

topaz veldt
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agree jorj

fringe vigil
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trydjtycjyhcjcjghfh

low sorrel
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I agree

topaz veldt
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disagree there

fringe vigil
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yugfgkyufiyftyfi67y

low sorrel
nimble pike
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If AMD hadn't pulled that driver stunt, I was gonna buy one.

topaz veldt
turbid locust
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9070XT was literally just a worse 5070Ti for a long time

turbid locust
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Nah 5070Ti’s are stupid prices rn

nimble pike
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They trade blows in games, and certain render workloads actually favor the AMD card.

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Dual encoders on those cards were what made me, as a creator go "Okay, now AMD might be going somewhere"

fringe vigil
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im back

low sorrel
topaz veldt
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@turbid locust what mem speed did you settle on in your 9850X3D setup

turbid locust
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8200c38

nimble pike
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I want Intel to come out with a 70 series card

topaz veldt
nimble pike
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Like, a card in that performance range

pure garnet
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the intel gpus still aren’t area efficient enough

turbid locust
pure garnet
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intel sells a 80 sized die that competes with 60 cards

topaz veldt
nimble pike
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I've been recommending Intel cards to all my creators on a budget, and they're loving the B580s

pure garnet
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bz says 1.5v max

turbid locust
turbid locust
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1.15v VDDP

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idk if that’s even necessary though

topaz veldt
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i am 1.05 vddp, 1.4 vddio

pure garnet
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which is how i sent 1.65v vddio into my 7800x3d

turbid locust
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let me find my screenshot

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ZenTimings is broken for voltages on the mpower but lol

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actually that’s accurate besides vSOC

topaz veldt
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what is vsoc

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i was gonna say dude 1.3 vsoc is brave

pure garnet
turbid locust
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1.1v iirc

pure garnet
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instead of override

topaz veldt
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1.1 with 2200 fclk?

turbid locust
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not minimized, I kept it high enough to avoid issues with like timings or whatever

pure garnet
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does the same thing but it actually works

turbid locust
nimble pike
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I remember one of the first days after I joined this server and got yelled at for my OC settings lol

pure garnet
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are you on seby or retail bios

turbid locust
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Retail on the Mpower

nimble pike
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Apparently I was cooking my 4820k and didn't know it.

pure garnet
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retail on my mlg added the new refresh mode so i need to set that up

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mpower is on seby bios mod rn

turbid locust
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I need to watch BZs videos about the new refresh stuff

pure garnet
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ocf is on an old bios coolice made

turbid locust
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off topic but I’m considering selling off my Intel stuff

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just less interested

pure garnet
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the ocf killed my os install in like 10 minutes of trying so i am also sorta losing interest

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the amd imc is simpler to get working

topaz veldt
turbid locust
turbid locust
pure garnet
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i still want to push my x3d to further up the 1b leaderboard

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so i’ll get back to that sooner than later

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i’m also out of good thermal paste so i need to stop swapping hardware

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i do have 20 tubes of the zalman stuff but i’ve never used it

nimble pike
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Zalman....

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Miss their freaky coolers

vale cosmos
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so real

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they had some fun ones

nimble pike
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The flower coolers looked dope

topaz veldt
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@merry stirrup you used this before?

turbid locust
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Just set tRAS to the moon

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like literally the max you can

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the only thing that timing does on AM5 rn is cause instability if it’s too low

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It does nothing for performance at all

pure garnet
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it's igpu instability i thought

thick frost
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kontrolr

topaz veldt
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as a max

turbid locust
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Idk but I run 16 and it’s not even minimized

topaz veldt
pure garnet
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i run 16 too

topaz veldt
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mac is on H16A

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I am on H24M

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I dont know enough about the nuances as to where these things matter

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I know that h16a trfc can go down to like 120ns reasonably

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but h24m trfc needs to be around 150-160 at tightest

leaden dawn
# thick frost kontrolr

Is this that extremely niche motion tracked controller hardware that portal 2 has a mod for

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Hydra

pure garnet
topaz veldt
pure garnet
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trfc 2/sb aren't set yet because i haven't looked into it

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oh and i need to fix my nitro settings rip

topaz veldt
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Why are you running H24M 1;1?

pure garnet
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because this board sucks

topaz veldt
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lol what

pure garnet
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i bought one of the cheapest b850 boards to swap back to am5 with the intent of just running my 7800x3d and 6000

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and i impulse bought this 9800x3d that happens to boot 8400 at auto

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i've ran this kit at 8000 before though and trtp still works at 16

topaz veldt
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I guess my question is that since H24M doesn't tighten down like A, why run 1:1 6400 32 vs like 8000 34

pure garnet
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15 min of 8000 error'd

topaz veldt
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oh

pure garnet
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i haven't wanted to play with the resistances enough to get it stable

topaz veldt
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so you think its a board thing @ 8k

pure garnet
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im on a budget 4 dimmer

topaz veldt
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word

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im in a weird spot because I have a 6000 CL26 48GB kit

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on a semi budget B850-I

pure garnet
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i was looking at apexes but i couldn't find one for a decent price

topaz veldt
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they are so cheap now

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oh wait sorry thats z890

pure garnet
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yeah x870e i meant

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this pcb isn't really the memory oc champion

pallid marsh
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@topaz veldt any plans on buying the 1000w 5090?

pallid marsh
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Tbh I'm shocked

topaz veldt
pallid marsh
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I feel like that's a snail thing to buy

topaz veldt
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So once the 1000W BIOS leaks I'll flash that and put the 2nd power connector on

pallid marsh
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I guess a diy 1000w card is more of a snail thing to do

topaz veldt
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custom looped w/ waterblock

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much cleaner than the other shiz

frank zealot
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HOLY SHIT
THIS IS EXTRA IMPORTANT

We need to adopt this right meow:

turbid locust
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ai;dr

brisk eagle
frank zealot
devout ridge
frank zealot
pure garnet
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@turbid locust @merry stirrup superstrike is apparently kicking you from lobbies in cs2 and causing bans in apex legends

topaz veldt
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yep

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because of rapid trigger

devout ridge
topaz veldt
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same thing happened with hall and tmr keebs

frank zealot
topaz veldt
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Guys talk me out of buying a 5070 Ti and parts to build my extra 9800X3D in my Terra

devout ridge
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okay so the other person is just stupid

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i have panicked before that i guessed a customer's gender wrong, because i usually say sir/ma'am

frank zealot
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in retail I generally tried to avoid those

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because there's always people who will get mad about one of the terms or another

topaz veldt
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I am from philly so I say "yo" and "yous"

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so fuck it

devout ridge
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If ever i'm not 100% certain, i skip it, but most people generally appreciate it

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I have never actually had someone get mad at me for saying sir/ma'am

frank zealot
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call a woman ma'am, and she might just go off on you for it. Just Wasn't worth it

devout ridge
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guess it depends on the region you live in

topaz veldt
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but you can say "wtf do you want, bitch" to any gender - they get upset all the same

frank zealot
topaz veldt
frank zealot
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(or manglement, depending on your opinion)

devout ridge
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our cameras don't record audio, no proof i called that customer a bitch

fringe vigil
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from baltimore

topaz veldt
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or my fav thing to do

devout ridge
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who are you gonna trust? me, or the bitch?

topaz veldt
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"no, not you" - and look past them

fringe vigil
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i still havent finished the wire man

topaz veldt
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Do I sell my spare 9800X3D or do I buy an SF1000, some ram, some mobo, and a gpu and put it in my terra

fringe vigil
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im gonna replace mine

pallid marsh
frank zealot
pallid marsh
frank zealot
green marsh
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N April 202 is an awesome date 😄

frank zealot
green marsh
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(me waiting for kernel 7.0 because aparently it will bring support for my Realtek NIC with SFP connector)

brave panther
brave panther
green marsh
topaz veldt
brave panther
green marsh
pure garnet
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the realtek driver with power saving enabled made my system freeze in valorant

brave panther
green marsh
green marsh
# brave panther from what i read c1-c2 is best connectx4 can do
brave panther
topaz veldt
pallid marsh
brave panther
#

coincidentaly ryzens also max out at c1-c2 which is a perfect match lol

topaz veldt
#

That reminds me - now that I have my GPU spaced out I might have room for my weird vertical mount NIC

green marsh
brave panther
#

i will try cisco optics on it

#

to see if its vendor locked

topaz veldt
#

The cards are usually, the optics are not always

nova trout
#

anyone familiar with Solidigm P41 Plus

topaz veldt
#

Mellanox are not locked but not sure if it'll play with a Cisco optic

frank zealot
pallid marsh
brave panther
frank zealot
topaz veldt
pallid marsh
topaz veldt
green marsh
# brave panther they are

in any case, the Realtek card works fine in Windows, so i only need to wait for kernel 7.0 to show up. Until then ConnectX3 it is

turbid locust
green marsh
brave panther
brave panther
topaz veldt
#

This is why I use dell servers

green marsh
#

(at least to my knowledge)

brave panther
green marsh
#

haven't tried yet, the X3 is in my server for now

brave panther
nova trout
#

do it or not

brave panther
#

isnt that essentially w11 dna

topaz veldt
#

fuckin win2019

shell void
brave panther
topaz veldt
shell void
#

i bet there’s going to be a lot of people that stay on ws2022 until the very end

topaz veldt
#

its an OCP 2.0 card w/ a proprietary cooler that ducts from the system fans

#

lol wow I need to clear these and hit my dude up

topaz veldt
#

32 of these fuggin things

brave panther
green marsh
shell void
topaz veldt
topaz veldt
turbid locust
green marsh
topaz veldt
shell void
#

my real computer is on 24h2

brave panther
turbid locust
#

losing interest ngl

shell void
#

understandable it's going to just be a nostalgia platform after nova lake comes out

pallid marsh
shell void
#

it still has some use now for 3dmark

turbid locust
wraith steeple
turbid locust
#

Like I kinda wanna sell all my AM4, z790, and z890 stuff

turbid locust
#

I might hold onto z890 for a bit until NVL but

brave panther
wraith steeple
#

Should i offer him my 4090 FE then jerryyyyyy

brave panther
#

i use it for my vms

topaz veldt
shell void
#

it's so frustrating bro i want the prettier UI and better performance, but it's just undefeatably buggy

#

i think people just forgot what a windows experience with 0 bugs ever is like so they arent bothered anymore

pallid marsh
#

Did we ever have a bug free windows experience?

shell void
#

yeah

topaz veldt
#

i have no windows complaints

brave panther
topaz veldt
shell void
topaz veldt
brave panther
topaz veldt
brave panther
#

everything has bugs

shell void
#

w10 21h2 has 0 bugs

topaz veldt
#

Except our Linux environment has significantly more open

turbid locust
#

The vertical config is kinda sick

topaz veldt
#

ya

shell void
#

i wasnt aware of that case, it looks cool

pallid marsh
green marsh
brave panther
# topaz veldt bugs

i ran into stupid one with cisco 9200l hardware LOL
single mode 1g transcievers are bugged... TAC has not been helpful at all yet
they will work but they will flap as hell under any kind of load
10g ones - work perfectly fine
1g mm ones - works perfectly fine

shell void
#

okay the wood on the white one looks terrible

brave panther
#

i think it would be better if black screen was installed behind

limpid tapir
shell void
#

no

#

there's just no ESU for 22h2

limpid tapir
#

I've been running it for the longest time and I dont remember facing any windows level bugs in a while

limpid tapir
shell void
#

the issues that i have with newer windows started with DWM changes made in 24H2, so W11 23H2 would be fine

#

but again no ESU so it's EOL later this year

pallid marsh
shell void
#

it looks like cheap sticks of wood slapped on with gapped spacing

brave panther
pure garnet
#

the children yearn for windows xp

limpid tapir
shell void
#

20H2/21H2/22H2 all share the same Vibranium codebase, but 21H2 is the one that's getting official security patches until January 2032 because of IOT ENT LTSC 21H2 and WS 2022

#

not that youll actually want to run it until 2032

#

because 50 series is the last graphics card lineup from nvidia thatll work in windows 10

vestal granite
limpid tapir
# brave panther

Nevermind I'm actually stupid. I did not realise we were talking about the IoT Enterprise set.

brave panther
shell void
#

yeh what i meant is that you wont actually want to run W10 21H2 on your main PC until 2032

vestal granite
#

we need a new abbreviation for point of sale cause i always read it as piece of shit

shell void
#

because youll be stuck on old hardware with limited software support

brave panther
shell void
#

yeh i think you can use it with a pentium 4

#

same as w10

brave panther
#

yea they backtracked the requirements due to corporate backlash lol

pallid marsh
pure garnet
#

apparently the pentium 4s are really jank though with modern software

vestal granite
shell void
#

yeh it's a horrendous experience

pure garnet
#

hwbot people keep having cpu z just change the cpuid at random

#

even on win xp

vestal granite
shell void
#

idek ive never seen that happen

#

ive also only used a self checkout a couple of times

vestal granite
#

it has happened not once, not twice, but three whole times to me

#

and i always use self checkout because i like to pretend im one of those championship cashier scanner guys and i like flip bread into one hand scan it speedrun etc u know

shell void
#

i cannot say that ive done that, but i respect your special interest

brave panther
topaz veldt
#

lol tac has gone way downhill

#

like sometimes the names are clearly fake

green marsh
topaz veldt
#

I monitor our Cisco account so I see all the tac cases the ops dudes open

brave panther
topaz veldt
#

and its like "Hello this is RAMSHIT DOORKNOB I am glad to help you today"

#

I am like OK ok ok guys thats not real

topaz veldt
brave panther
topaz veldt
#

imagine having cisco compute, cisco network, and cisco software... all managed by different teams... all in "id.cisco.com" shit

vestal granite
topaz veldt
indigo walrus
vestal granite
#

you see, the thing - you see, is that cisco was invented in 1892 when tim berners lee invented the pneumatic mail inter-tube he called "wacky wobbly webmail" and cisco keeps all of the conventions that graham bell created back then

#

because you dont want to confuse people who have been using it for 20yrs

brave panther
low sorrel
#

also why is this guy kinda annoying

fringe vigil
#

why is yt so messed up

hoary hatch
#

@merry stirrup should I waste some moneys

sharp heart
frank zealot
#

@edgy laurel
This is bonkers neat for custom work. Our tiny PCs at work apparently have a separate front io board, and all use standard connections. Just usb2 jumpers to the board. That's unheard of for oem boxes!

#

So this would be so cool for a super low profile custom build somewhere

hoary hatch
#

Oh the 6850k is only 6 cores

gentle urchin
edgy laurel
#

like whatever cable they can get cheap with enough pins

#

There is a motherboard i'll find in a minute that has a daughterboard that slots into the mainboard with dual Type C connectors. Totally not usb but just using the connectors

frank zealot
edgy laurel
#

literally standing there supported on dual Type C connectors lol

frank zealot
#

Lolol

edgy laurel
#

just making use of the available pins and physical form factor

frank zealot
frank zealot
#

I've got a couple spares now lol

edgy laurel
#

bro you don't want me to rant about that board and its NVMe

#

i've been at it for years

#

ok.. get this

#

Its an ITX X670E board, right?

frank zealot
#

Yup

edgy laurel
#

Already pointless... but it gets better

#

There are 4 lanes dedicated to the second chipset

#

those lanes are physically connected to an M.2 slot

#

but the only thing you can plug into said slot, is a daughter board that houses the second chipset... and an M.2 NVMe slot for a drive

#

the second chipset is a fooking glorified passthrough

frank zealot
#

Lol

edgy laurel
#

8

frank zealot
#

Lolol

edgy laurel
#

actually, I don't know if you can just not plug in the second chipset card and plug a normal SSD in

#

but still

frank zealot
#

So the chipset is exclusively there to up the cost

edgy laurel
#

honestly I think so, it doesn't seem to be physically capable of doign anything other than acting as a passthrough for an M.2 drive

#

there is nothing else connected to it

#

i've been ranting about this dumb-ass board since like late 2022

#

lmao

#

X670E-I Strix

#

Theoretically if you could plug in another drive, it would be to the CPU lanes otherwise dedicated to that dumb second X670 chpset daughter board

brave panther
#

X670 is a waste for itx

nova trout
edgy laurel
#

a complete waste, and in this case seemingly worse for it

turbid locust
#

None of you know what you’re talking about and you’re ALL wrong.

edgy laurel
#

thanks, Mac

pure garnet
#

why does this guy ask the channel he can’t read any messages in

brave panther
edgy laurel
#

you know he disappeared for a while but came back in the last few weeks. Initially i forgot about that and was replying to him like normal. Never responded to me until I remembered why

frank zealot
brave panther
frank zealot
#

I have a 13400 sitting idle

edgy laurel
#

Speaking of weird and wonderful chipset add in cards, who remembers this Asrock B650 to X670 addin card that never made it to production. Only worked with one motherboard.

brave panther
#

i have regular livemixer...

edgy laurel
brave panther
frank zealot
hoary hatch
edgy laurel
#

your comment makes more sense now

fringe vigil
#

8 core cpu is just not enough in 2026

brave panther
edgy laurel
#

another shot at that Asus ITX X670 daugherboard

frank zealot
#

Jorj with the lame takes and terrible bait part 3,746

edgy laurel
#

like am I crazy, its only I/O is an M.2 slot... so its literally just converting CPU lanes to chipset lanes

brave panther
edgy laurel
brave panther
edgy laurel
edgy laurel
brave panther
edgy laurel
#

oh, wait you're right i'm being stupid. they're daisy chained

brave panther
#

unrelated mb but it ilustrates how its connected

brave panther
#

takes 4 lanes, spits out 4 lanes

edgy laurel
#

ultimately, yeah. i've pointed this out so many times the last few years when this comes up. Its the dumbest thing I've ever seen

brave panther
#

one could just straight connect those to the chipset, call it b650 and it would be same functionality

edgy laurel
#

just to make the board say X670

brave panther
#

exactly

edgy laurel
#

makes me wonder, what did they do with their X870 ITX board..

brave panther
#

same shit prob

edgy laurel
#

ok well X870 is just a single chipset

#

so its the same card but with no chip on it

edgy laurel
#

and it doesn't seem like Asus made an X870E-I ITX

brave panther
#

anyway, having x670 or 870 chipset on a itx is very much waste

wraith steeple
#

2006 Honda Civic

turbid locust
#

any of you nerds live near Little Rock Arkansas

#

If so, what the fuck do you do in Little Rock Arkansas

pure garnet
#

i think we should buy the x670-i

edgy laurel
#

or museums

#

about all there is

wraith steeple
pure garnet
#

going to walmart is a vacation activity there

edgy laurel
#

'local specialties like cheese dip...'

wraith steeple
#

So a drive thru state? Got it.

turbid locust
#

yeah dude I’ll be working with there was like “well do a half day Monday and then go hike up the trail on the mountain” and I was like “oh okay”

edgy laurel
#

only time you go there is when you're flying over it

wraith steeple
#

I would probably be a corpse if we were to arrive in Arkansas from my state of Michigan

turbid locust
wraith steeple
#

The joke is I get bad car sickness

karmic pendant
#

Hi again
Rx 7900 Gre or RTX 3080 Ti

turbid locust
#

I wonder what car enterprise is gonna give me

brave panther
pure garnet
turbid locust
#

I know they give anyone under 25 like a nerfed selection

pure garnet
#

we rented one of those ford expedition xl whatever’s for my cruise last year

#

on the return trip they didn’t have one and wanted to give us a nissan minivan

fringe vigil
#

wraith steeple
#

We drove through there during when they had a cattle show

#

All the hotels were booked because of said cattle show

wraith steeple
#

I am dead serious.... Looking for one to stay at for the night was way harder than it needed to be for a local cattle show

#

And "gO biG R3D"

fringe vigil
#

yo who liked the state of play

brave panther
turbid locust
#

can we get jorj banned

fringe vigil
#

?

hoary hatch
hoary hatch
#

Pretty sure X670 is dual chipset
E moniker was guaranteeing a certain number of gen 5 lanes or something

pure garnet
#

x670/x670e/870e is dual prom 21

#

all other am5 chipsets are 1 prom 21

fringe vigil
fringe vigil
rocky shoal
#

I like jorj

wraith steeple
#

Did I miss something? What did jorj do?

fringe vigil
#

ikr

wraith steeple
hoary hatch
#

@brave panther

brave panther
#

i wanna harvest those prom21 chipsets so bad and put em on a pcie card

hoary hatch
#

Why not just buy a dual chipset motherboard in the first place

brave panther
#

custom config lol

#

you can do lot more customisation that mobo manufacuers dont dare to do

#

at the end its is just asmedia pcie hub/switch

uneven bane
#

Finnaly got my entire server rack UPS protected

quaint osprey
edgy laurel
#

the built in Program Compatibility Assistant in Windows doesn't like that driver

#

(I just google parts of what was visible)

fringe vigil
#

hi

edgy laurel
fringe vigil
fervent scaffold
#

Thermalright phantom spirit 120 enough for a 7800x3d?

quaint osprey
#

how do i fix my issue

vestal granite
#

im always surprised at how fast things are when things are not made with python or typescript or equivalent bad languages

fervent scaffold
wraith steeple
edgy laurel
vestal granite
#

and its because the row has json data and using python with json data is basically just cruel and unusual geneva convention torture because theres almost no way to make it go faster

uneven bane
# fringe vigil what are they used for

The servers? Its my homelab. 1 is my Opnsense router, 3 of them are my Proxmox cluster, 1 is Proxmox Backup And then there is my NAS. The UPS's are for power outages and surge protection as actuall servers are not as happy about power flashes compared to a normal pc

#

I fried a server once by not having it protected it was fun, immediate machine check error on both cpu's Upon reboot

steel stream
#

greetings food-chat-2. Homemade hot-honey fried chicken sandwich. That is all.

edgy laurel
#

damn

#

well shit, enjoy it

#

going to have to give it a smash to fit it in your jaw

steel stream
vestal granite
#

people need to be less afraid of hydraulic press-ing their sandwiches into a condensed puck of nutrition

#

thats what i do when i make sandwiches i just smash it into a fuckin pancake to eat like i ordered it from a street vendor

edgy laurel
#

thats certainly one way to put it

#

panini press all the things?

vestal granite
#

full body weight onto my wrist onto the sandwich

edgy laurel
#

we used to have one of those grilled cheese makers whenI was a kid. the one that would crimp the edges and even down the middle

pure garnet
# quaint osprey

if you have vanguard installed it's probably blocking it from loading

vestal granite
#

dude same those make the best grilled cheeses i swear

#

did you have the one that like cut diagonally across the center and you get 2 triangle shaped cheese containers made of bread

edgy laurel
#

like this and i just remember it being shittier

vestal granite
#

those are perfect

#

but yeah we had a shittier one too like silver colored

edgy laurel
#

i just remember it being that crappy white plastic all kitchen gadgets were made of at the time

vestal granite
#

with the red and green LEDs to tell you its done heating up

edgy laurel
#

omg it was this

vestal granite
#

thats literally the exact one we had too

edgy laurel
#

yup. looks like there was a silver one too

turbid locust
#

yo skrill drop it hard

vestal granite
edgy laurel
#

mac are you trying to make a skrillex reference in the year 2026

pure garnet
#

mac might be unc

edgy laurel
vestal granite
#

my earliest experiences cooking food as a kid were on those random kitchen appliances

steel stream
#

panini makers are just repurposed waffle makers

#

i want waffle

hoary hatch
#

I hate waffles

edgy laurel
edgy laurel
vestal granite
#

i love waffles but only if i can put a gallon of butter and syrup on a waffle

turbid locust
turbid locust
vestal granite
#

nothings better than a waffle at a hotel's complimentary continental breakfast let me tell ya folks

edgy laurel
turbid locust
#

alright guilty I consider us friends and you may want to stop here

edgy laurel
#

skrillex was good in 2011 lmao

#

the peak of the dubstep era

vestal granite
#

you get the little cup, you put the batter in the cup, you put it in the waffle maker, you get some free crisp-as-a-rock bacon while you wait and maybe a cup of juice or a bad coffee

#

god i love hotel breakfast i would just pay for the breakfast to be honest

turbid locust
#

he went back to that sound in some parts

edgy laurel
turbid locust
#

ragebaiters, all of you.

edgy laurel
#

ok mr. civic duty

vestal granite
#

ragebaiting isnt real bro

#

but if ragebaiting WAS real, i would be a commercial fisherman

#

but its not real and please dont gaslight me into thinking its real

#

gaslighting also isnt real

edgy laurel
#

say that line again, i need a clean screenshot for the archive

#

its too good

vestal granite
#

which one

edgy laurel
#

the one I quoted

turbid locust
vestal granite
#

ragebaiting isnt real bro

turbid locust
vestal granite
#

but if ragebaiting WAS real, i would be a commercial fisherman

edgy laurel
#

damnit mac

#

oh forget it lol

hoary hatch
#

French toast is a no go

edgy laurel
#

for real though @turbid locust i'm really not into any sorta EDM anymore except for a bunch of Fred again... sets i've put on in the background cause they're chill as hell

steel stream
turbid locust
#

I’ve been listing to Ray Volpe a good bit recently

hoary hatch
steel stream
brave panther
#

the real pancakes, not those fake american ones

vestal granite
hoary hatch
steel stream
hoary hatch
pallid marsh
vestal granite
#

everyone from outside of the US, keep in mind that most of hte US uses corn syrup based syrup

edgy laurel
hoary hatch
steel stream
#

whatever kind of waffle or pancake it is im eating it

brave panther
vestal granite
#

yes correct those are tacos

hoary hatch
#

That's a crepe

shell void
#

i love real syrup but it's not worth the calories to me most of the time

turbid locust
#

Magikarp

edgy laurel
shell void
#

special occasions type beat

vestal granite
#

you cant put chocolate sauce on a taco and say its not a taco

hoary hatch
#

I just prefer a savory breakfast

pallid marsh
#

Waffles > pancake

hoary hatch
#

I don't really care for jam

wise bear
#

savory breakfast goes so hard

#

omfg

hoary hatch
#

Biscuits & gravy all day

pallid marsh
wise bear
#

not really

vestal granite
wise bear
#

my breakfast is usually like, ramen, or egg w/ chicken

edgy laurel
vestal granite
hoary hatch
brave panther
vestal granite
hoary hatch
wise bear
hoary hatch
#

But if I'm doing a quick breakfast
Banana, cottage cheese, and 2 hard-boiled eggs

vestal granite
edgy laurel
shell void
#

i very rarely eat breakfast foods at actual breakfast hours

edgy laurel
#

breakfast for dinner is elite

vestal granite
#

me too i make eggs when im up late at like 3AM

#

nothin like a 3AM egg

pallid marsh
#

I eat two 8g fiber oatmeal bars and one yogurt for breakfast

shell void
#

i just dont have any interest in chowing down on a bunch of fatty or sweet food first thing in the morning, but like spark said it's fun for dinner

#

i start getting hungry around 3 hours after waking up

pallid marsh
#

Breakfast burritos sound good for tonights dinner

brave panther
steel stream
fringe vigil
#

i had pancakes

vestal granite
#

alls im saying is people would not pay so much for steak if it was called meat slabs

#

even though they are, inarguably, meat slabs.

brave panther
#

meat obelisks

pallid marsh
steel stream
#

ok brought my laptop to the living room so i can discuss food-chat-2 while watching LOTR

steel stream
hoary hatch
vestal granite
pallid marsh
#

Cottage cheese is over used

edgy laurel
#

Tomorrow is Saturday, which means roast pork sandwich from the italian deli. Hype

steel stream
#

it's just not good

hoary hatch
hoary hatch
#

Full fat, large curd
10/10

steel stream
edgy laurel
#

cottage cheese is good

edgy laurel
hoary hatch
vestal granite
#

what is cottage cheese im always afraid of trying it it seems like its gonna be too sweet or too sour or too weird

fringe vigil
#

eggfried rice

steel stream
#

it's not really sweet or sour

hoary hatch
#

It's not sweet or sour

vestal granite
#

but you didnt say its not too weird

edgy laurel
#

its pretty bland. super mild cheese flavor.. if at all. more of a textural thing that you add toppings too, but some (I) like it plain too

steel stream
vestal granite
#

see thats where it loses me the whole textural thing

steel stream
#

it's like eating pustules

vestal granite
#

i dont like weird food textures

edgy laurel
#

its like soft cheese curd crumbles but in a thin paste

steel stream
#

i'm usually good with textures but not a fan of of the cottage cheese

edgy laurel
#

i'll buy it and add berries, honey and granola to it

#

in place of like greek yoghurt

steel stream
#

just use the yoghurt

edgy laurel
#

both are good

pallid marsh
#

Too many food hacks and recipes use cottage cheese

steel stream
#

i start most my mornings with yoghurt and granola

steel stream
#

bro i need my gains bro

edgy laurel
#

two hardboiled eggs

vestal granite
#

hardboiled eggs are the best

#

i love pickled eggs though, i like to remind my tastebuds whose in charge here

edgy laurel
#

pickled nearly anything i'm into (within reason)

vestal granite
#

same

vestal granite
#

pickled eggs, pickled okra, pickled pickles, pickled half sour pickles, giardiniera, pickled other stuff that im forgetting probably

brave panther
edgy laurel
#

had this big tub of pickled Vietnamese vegtables from costco. ate the whole thing in like 2 days, then put hard boiled eggs in the container with the remaining liquid and they were chefskiss

vestal granite
#

pickled red onions are a good one for greek food, i heard that one time peter piper picked a pair of pickled peppers so pickled peppers are probably good

steel stream
#

i fuck with sunny side up eggs

brave panther
#

would rather eat them raw than hardboiled

edgy laurel
vestal granite
#

costco sells a big ole tub of pickled okra thats where i first tried it but now they sell it for like 8 trillion dollars a jar so i just take old dill pickle juice and throw okra in sometimes