#tech-chat-2

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karmic pendant
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Rtx 3080=rx 9060xt same price btw

pure garnet
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3080ti isn't a ton faster, whats the price diff

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i'd take a 3080 over a 9060 xt though

karmic pendant
strange ginkgo
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wow i already hated GPU pricing in 2023 when i build my PC but now even the used market doesn't really help much

karmic pendant
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Isn't it a bit old though?

pure garnet
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nvidia just dropped the 2014 gpu line in their drivers last october, you get a much longer support cycle

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a used 3080 is just faster than the 9060 xt for the same money

karmic pendant
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Is 12gb vram enough these days?

pure garnet
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it depends on if a setting below ultra exists for you

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the 9060 xt isn't a bad card though

brisk jolt
karmic pendant
brisk jolt
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or even more stupidly for their place in modern standards, native 4K

karmic pendant
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But my Rx 6700xt was maxing on Cyberpunk on 2k

karmic pendant
brisk jolt
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can you stop calling 1440p as 2K

karmic pendant
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7800xt is a big disappointment

karmic pendant
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2.5k?

pure garnet
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the funny thing is 1080p would be the 2k resolution

karmic pendant
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I am just used to 1440p being 2k

pure garnet
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1920 rounds up to 2000, 2560 doesn’t round down

strange ginkgo
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still using 2 1080p 60hz lcd monitors to this day

brisk jolt
karmic pendant
brisk jolt
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even amd jesus says RDNA has been fumbling

wise turtle
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whats the best place to get a pre built from

karmic pendant
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And go Green?

strange ginkgo
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is PC gaming even worth it anymore with current prices?

pure garnet
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when you realize that ram pricing didn’t really shift build prices massively yeah

strange ginkgo
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pretty much all components in my PC now cost more than 2 years ago when i bought them

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power supply might still be the same

brisk jolt
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Q2 2025 was prime time

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mobos have def increased in pricing from what i see

karmic pendant
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@pure garnet is 12gb vram enough for 1440p gaming?

strange ginkgo
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paid about 50€ for my am4 mainboard (used ebay) and would still get it for about the same
but the CPU would be much more expensive.. well the ram... would be about 400€ more now at best

harsh sail
# karmic pendant Is 12gb vram enough these days?

depends what you do
aaa games 8GB is starting to be insufficient in 1080p
fortnite though is only 2GB on performance mode even in 1440p though turn RT on on that or do minecraft with mods including shaders and it’s bacck to 4-5GB, though, again, 1440p

brisk jolt
harsh sail
strange ginkgo
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raytracing is so good that the minecraft version of it that was created in cooperation with nvidia to promote is now gone

karmic pendant
brisk jolt
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12GB is fine with 1440p, raytracing just use DLSS to make up

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you have the tool just use it

harsh sail
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10GB? cause i think that 2GB matters and he’s considering a 3080

karmic pendant
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5060Ti is no good?

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Ti

harsh sail
strange ginkgo
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8gb...

harsh sail
harsh sail
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guys that’s what im saying the whole time lol

karmic pendant
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Ah no I changed my mind
Rtx 5060ti is not worth it

indigo walrus
# karmic pendant 5060Ti is no good?

As a new 5060 Ti 16GB owner, it can be good... depending on the price you purchase it for, the resolution / refresh rate you play games at, and the types of games you play. At the end of the day, everyone's needs differ.

karmic pendant
indigo walrus
karmic pendant
strange ginkgo
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what would you even cosider a good price for a 3080ti?

karmic pendant
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120$ more than Rx 9060xt

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Could be more

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Well in my country that is

harsh sail
# strange ginkgo what would you even cosider a good price for a 3080ti?

under 400 maybe but apparently it aint that much better than 3080 and 3080 is even slightly faster in raster than 5060ti so if you are fine with leaving new features, get that for lower price, vram bump, and faster raw performance
btw i find 3080 for 330 (one outlier listing at 300) and 5060ti at 340

strange ginkgo
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i got my used rtx 3090 for about 750€ 2 years ago but thats also a 24gb card

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from what i can see on ebay right now it got worse

karmic pendant
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9060xt lacks so much I expected more of itwhoa

harsh sail
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makes sense but dam even 30 generation got hit

strange ginkgo
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all i see for 3090 now is 900€ or more

harsh sail
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24GB is 24GB

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so wow 3080 is just slaying rn

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went from 280-300 to now 300-330 in price which is something but it was alrready good

strange ginkgo
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the ddr4 well lets say now it would be more than 200€

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i hope the prices well go back to the old normal

strange ginkgo
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before covid and ai when we only had bitcoin to blame

brisk jolt
strange ginkgo
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ok true

harsh sail
# strange ginkgo i hope the prices well go back to the old normal

2028 supposedly if the optimism from some executives proves wrong (which it most likely will) but apparently intel,unlike asus’s trivial move, is actually going to make RAM-like thing (“ZAM”) for the servers that will relieve supply issue.
and then 2029 will be consumer ddr6

karmic pendant
strange ginkgo
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i wouldn't mind grabbing a epyc 9965 from ebay when AI datacenters implode

harsh sail
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may 9995wx be cheap 🗣️

wise turtle
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where are good places to get pre builts

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theres no micro center in my state tho

merry stirrup
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265K
and the ram question is silly ofc it’s hynix ram yes

brisk jolt
lethal topaz
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how bad is this

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zfs reports zero errors of any kind

strange ginkgo
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can you get the actual smart data of the drive?

lethal topaz
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yeah i believe so what would you like

strange ginkgo
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generally i would probably replace a drive if i get a warning like this but

lethal topaz
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i do have a couple spare. however they are all used enterprise drives, ~15k power on hours

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im just worried about the rebuild since its raidz1

strange ginkgo
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but this drive for example has reallocated sectors because i dropped it and i still trust the drive because i know the reason and it it was fine for more than a year now

lethal topaz
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this is part of my media pool so i would like to not lose it but it wouldnt be the worst thing to lose. im backing up the data i 100% want from it before i decide what im doing

strange ginkgo
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your drive might just had a high data error rate because it ran too how but for now just expect it to fail

lethal topaz
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too hot?

strange ginkgo
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I've seen the seek error rate value got up on my drive when it had no cooling so i gues that can influence it

lethal topaz
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that would make sense

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the cooling is not the best in the case

strange ginkgo
lethal topaz
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well it will be a first for me so idk yet lmao

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but its tough on the drives. the most common time for a failure is during a resliver / rebuild

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my friend lost his pool during a rebuild as well

strange ginkgo
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i've only see this old ltt video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSrnXgAmK8k
and my conclusion was that i don't want to deal with that and should just use a boring external drive and 7zip to pack everything in one file

We experienced a MASSIVE RAID failure on Whonnock server and lost a crapload of data. Can we get it back?

Rackspace has your Dedicated Environments covered. Head over to http://www.rackspace.com/ltt to learn more!

Data recovery done by http://www.WeRecoverData.com, thanks for the help!!

Pricing & discussion: http://linustechtips.com/main/topi...

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total waste of space but whatever

lethal topaz
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this will surely take a while, backing up 1tb of data

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luckily i have two pools with decent capacity

strange ginkgo
lethal topaz
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what the

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why do you have so many drives and not pooled

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are you doing all this through windows?

strange ginkgo
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external drives via usb

lethal topaz
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this is quite the setup

strange ginkgo
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whatever works

lethal topaz
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this is running in truenas

strange ginkgo
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I'm sure it's great and convinient but i never liked the idea of attaching my storage via lan/wlan

lethal topaz
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my network setup is decent so it makes sense to me

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plus my network interface is about as fast as a usb connection...

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i can still make all my files appear in windows as well

strange ginkgo
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all my drives are sata so USB was never the bottleneck

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sadly i can't combine the drives into a raid

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tried a few ways but nothing worked for usb drives

merry stirrup
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had me gigglin

strange ginkgo
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don't be mean to my sata drives :(

merry stirrup
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im ok with sata drives kinda sometimes

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idk i use a total of 3

lethal topaz
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i have 3 sata drives total in use as well if you dont count cache

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otherwise i have 4

strange ginkgo
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my board has only one nvme slot anyway

patent gorge
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only set up NAS late last year, should have done it sooner, it made things so much more convenient

lethal topaz
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my gaming pc has 2 nvme 1 sata ssd,
my nas has 8 SAS, 2 sata HDD, 1 sata ssd (cache)

strange ginkgo
lethal topaz
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is that all optane

topaz veldt
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No

strange ginkgo
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no but MLC nand

topaz veldt
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They're s3710

strange ginkgo
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nvme was not a thing when these were made

brisk jolt
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why is spending $300 on clothes so pain

livid flame
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Don’t you live in a country where clothes are like $3 a piece?

brisk jolt
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i wish

livid flame
south shuttle
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synthetics eww

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Their strenghts are also their weaknesses

livid flame
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If I lived or went somewhere like India or Thailand where I can just pick up clothes for like 1 or 2 quid I’d end up wearing it all on the way home to avoid paying baggage fees

south shuttle
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If something is under 60% cotton that is touching me, into the trash it goes

devout ridge
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woke up, promptly slipped down the stairs, fucking amazing way to start my day

shell void
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that sux brother iroh, are u wounded?

devout ridge
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scrapped my forearm a bit on the banister, but otherwise perfectly fine

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just pissed me off

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one of those things where it just ruins your morning

vapid ether
devout ridge
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it has some Iroh DNA on it now

wraith steeple
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Ancestors from Ba Sing Se sounds rad

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Tough crowd whoa

topaz veldt
quaint osprey
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okay this is tech chat but i have an issue with vortex mod manager would anyone be willing to help with this issue i have im in dire need ive been at it for like 2 hours now

brisk jolt
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drinking coffee at 9pm
whack

edgy laurel
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i always hear about how vortex just fucks shit up in most cases

fringe vigil
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Don’t use vortex

devout ridge
livid flame
lone scarab
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tho they good if you wanna wear at home

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i got a hoodie with big nike logo for 6 euros

livid flame
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That’s good

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We bought an Ali express north face knock off to see if they were selling proper counterfeits or not for a tenner

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The tracksuit came with “TIIC NOPTI FACE” on it instead KEKW

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Pretty warm tbh. Worth the tenner

fringe vigil
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whys my pc not recognising my usb bro

topaz veldt
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how would we know jorj

fringe vigil
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like wth

young void
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Need coffees

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Also try a diffrent slot/could be driver for said item

shell void
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msi lightning reviews are up snail

fringe vigil
wraith steeple
shell void
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looks like the cooler works well

wraith steeple
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Dual 12vhpwr

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Which makes sense since it's an XOC card and all

shell void
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$5090usd and limited lottery tho :p

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far better off just getting a gigabyte card

turbid locust
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chat I’m officially coffee age

turbid locust
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trading 5% performance for 20% less power is peak

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but @shell void told me about voltage limiting it the other day and in need to experiment with that

young void
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Nothing wrong with power limiting for efficiency

livid flame
wraith steeple
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Two month delivery time is wild

edgy laurel
shell void
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it’s more effective than a wattage limit if your goal is to improve efficiency

turbid locust
edgy laurel
turbid locust
edgy laurel
turbid locust
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lol bro

edgy laurel
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get that extra frame bro

shell void
turbid locust
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It may be more effective but I’ll have to measure performance

shell void
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ive seen it shave 100W off in cyberpunk even tho my fps was capped to the same value

wraith steeple
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We actually be doing frame chasing and efficiency yo

turbid locust
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will it shave 100W off in valorant when my gpu peaks at 100W in that game trollface

topaz veldt
turbid locust
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Everyone should buy that

young void
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XD

topaz veldt
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I am like 30 points from being on the "hall of fame" for Port Royal

edgy laurel
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At $5090 US asking price, no one will

topaz veldt
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Nah people will

turbid locust
young void
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I believe in youu

edgy laurel
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its all relative. the few hundred they sell is effectively no one

topaz veldt
turbid locust
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2000W bios + EVC with the babiest amount of additional voltage

shell void
topaz veldt
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I need to get the 2nd 12vhpwr on

turbid locust
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If you’re doing that add EVC leads atp

topaz veldt
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eh

livid flame
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Number 98 has the best name

topaz veldt
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Going to go move that PC to the garage and get a 45500 round later

wraith steeple
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Monty Python reference

turbid locust
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EVC also just kinda nukes the power limit anyway

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might just misreport power

turbid locust
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quietest non custom loop 9850X3D + 5090 build on the planet?

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I will do a full custom loop one day but. That day has to be in a time where im not swapping platforms in the daily every 3 months

topaz veldt
turbid locust
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the only thing I can ever actually hear right now is my 5090 when I’m playing a game that actually uses it

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my case fans and AIO fans are limited to like 850rpm

frank zealot
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holy shit I just got offered the dumbest warranty ever:

5 bucks for a 2 yr warranty on foam microphone covers

wraith steeple
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My local Micro Center has this inside joke about this; "would you like a two year warranty on the Bawls drink and Snickers bar?"

frank zealot
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lol, at least that's a joke

topaz veldt
young void
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If she runs ya know

brisk jolt
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200w is ouch compared to the 5070ti eating like.. 80

topaz veldt
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200w...bro

brisk jolt
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I dont mind 200w but its eating it in a game not graphically intense, plus at twice the wattage of 5070ti

frank zealot
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I just realized something, and now I want to try:

I've got a dead mini PC with a 13400....

And I've got a crappy HP Mini Tower with a 12100 sitting on the shelf...

Why don't I upgrade that chip to a 13400.....

hoary hatch
brisk jolt
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Lets watch them butcher it with another matte coating

hoary hatch
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Tizen ruins everything

hoary hatch
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Y'all remember when Intel was investing Penta level cell nand

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I member

shell void
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PLC SSDs are coming soon spinningskull

wraith steeple
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PLC?

hoary hatch
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Safety PLC is the bane of my existence

shell void
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more density for higher capacity enterprise ssds

cosmic gazelle
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lovely. msi releases a 1000 watt 5090

hoary hatch
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But 3D stacking and density just kept getting better and better, so there hasn't been much of a need for PLC

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And there's some real downsides for durability and speeds

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If it could be cheaper than HDD per TB (which it won't), then I could see PLC useful for large capacity archival purposes

cosmic gazelle
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seemed like the cheapest nand was headed that direction... until...

frank zealot
livid flame
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Great use of AI. Game changing

frank zealot
livid flame
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It is. Especially when you apply it to people and think, if you can use the palantir facial recognition database… game changing

frank zealot
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just in the "oh good, evil's winning" game changing way

livid flame
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Think how many criminals we can catch!

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Your friend comes over, knock at the door, palantir AI on your ring doorbell has indicated he’s a wanted man. Boom. Justice served

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Easy to find now they know he’s inside

warm urchin
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If you live in a big city, chances are there’s already plenty of CCTV that’s being monitored by someone for some reason

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We are so past the point of surveillance state it’s not even funny

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It’s been at least two decades in London for example

frank zealot
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If Joe's house of pizza has a unifi NVR in the back room and a few cameras inside and outside?
IDGAF. That's security for them.

If that same thing is controlled by Ring and now gets added to the national database they can monitor for whatever they choose?

That's a VERY Fuckin' different thing.

merry stirrup
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successfully used me hot air station today

frank zealot
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@edgy laurel This looks sick:

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more PCBs should be translucent!

turbid locust
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my 5090 like basically idles that game at 4K 144

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like 100W lol

brisk jolt
turbid locust
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well that checks out ig lol

brisk jolt
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I say its weird cuz the 5070Ti at the same FPS is doing like 80w

turbid locust
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I wonder how much of that 200W is just powering the vram lmao

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Sidenote I’m on the shuttle bus at work and the two people next to me are discussing Chuck E Cheese lore

brisk jolt
edgy laurel
merry stirrup
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hot air station is also great for melting hotglue nicely cause your hot glue gun sucks

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but yeah i redid one of my sisters ps5 controllers with mostly no issue after buying this

edgy laurel
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back when I was into RC, i bought a "nice" hot glue gun

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amazing how much better that worked from the cheap arts and crafts stuff I'd used before

pure garnet
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which is why the 5090 mobile is gb203

green marsh
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today i decided to look at alternative to zigbee... omg, matter/thread is such a overcomplicated system/protocol. Zigbee is such a simple thing in comparison. I think i will avoid matter until i can't 😄

topaz veldt
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matter/thread is baller

jaunty horizon
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Random tech advice needed lol

Trying to find a good portable SSD as the MacBook I may be getting only has around 500GB of space so I would half love a backup drive and it also needs to be fast as videos aren’t exactly small for 4k also must be durable as I’m on the road most of the time

And must have at least 1TB of space for a backup and some working space

topaz veldt
jaunty horizon
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Looking for good ones not a cheap crappy one that will break on me after like 5 uses

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
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@merry stirrup you ever chase Port Royal scores?

merry stirrup
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nope

topaz veldt
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its worse than RAM tuning

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My 285K, on my desk, like 65 degree office, ran 45315 with 800W BIOS and tweaking

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moved it to my garage, its like 15c core temp idle, same settings, I can't get over 45,000

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Swapped to my 9950X3D machine, 800W BIOS, same custom loop, this GPU boosts even higher, to 3.3 GHz, and I get 44600 lol

merry stirrup
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yeah sounds like gpu benching

topaz veldt
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so frustrating

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meanwhile yesterday I had the 285K do 45105, 45210, 45315

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inching up with afterburner adjustments like clockwork

merry stirrup
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Redid my i2c mod. The original jst header broke off and I lost it so good old fashioned wires

turbid locust
pure garnet
turbid locust
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cpu doesn’t really matter for port Royal as long as it’s not limiting

topaz veldt
pure garnet
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what test was the one splaive did with ln2 at ltt

frank zealot
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Buddy is napping with his MerSloth

turbid locust
# topaz veldt naw

well you don’t really need the script ig? But kill explorer before the run starts and then run it again after

pure garnet
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because that’s the one where he said 14900k was meta

turbid locust
turbid locust
topaz veldt
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its just weird the 9950X3D is 1000 points off

turbid locust
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but yeah try killing explorer before the runs

topaz veldt
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i have every startup thing disabled

turbid locust
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also if you’re not on a bench or clean OS

topaz veldt
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Its an aged OS

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but like... 1000 points is srs

turbid locust
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might be worth installing a fresh OS or bench OS

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I could probably throw you a wegg image maybe but you could probably strip an OS yourself I’m sure lol

topaz veldt
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wegg?

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yeah i have a post install stripper script I made

turbid locust
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ya

turbid locust
topaz veldt
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oh

wise bear
merry stirrup
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really happy with the hot air station stuff i did today though it was pretty challenging but i got through it

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and i replaced with some nice hall effect joysticks hurray

brisk jolt
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idk who needs to know this but that msi lightning 5090 has a 2500w vbios you need to request and it voids the warranty when in use xd

merry stirrup
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im sure it will promptly be put on tpu

frank zealot
# wise bear MAKE A LAMP WITH IT

I'm laughing right now.

Dude elsewhere is dying on the dumbest hill.

Him: "An 850w PLATINUM PSU might be enough for a 9800x3d and 5070 TI"

Everyone dunking on him: No, it's fucking not gonna need 850W+.

Him: "Well, transient spikes are a thing!"

Me: 400W of Transient headroom is more than enough. You're making shit up.

topaz veldt
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800W BIOS and 5090 can't get over 700-720W

brisk jolt
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We all know you’re gonna hit one of em 5090s with another 12vhpwr pepoJuice

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Unless you’re already VRM limited at that range iirc

strange ginkgo
topaz veldt
frank zealot
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I'm not giving them clicks, but come on guys... is this really a goddamned thing to make more videos on?

frank zealot
topaz veldt
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like $5

frank zealot
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so, coffee money?

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utterly unrelated, but I really kinda dig this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3g9jTZIs68

A full remix album reimagining Ocarina of Time through shamisen, taiko drums, Japanese violin, and Shakuhachi (Japanese flute) Hopefully it's as nostalgic for you as it was for me making it ⚔️🌀🎮

╔═══════ ⋆★⋆ ═══════╗
LOZ O C A R I N A O F T I M E SHAMISEN ROCK ...

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cosmic gazelle
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people think that reporting on stupid drama is how they're gonna make it big

green marsh
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(and many would still consider 100 people company as small)

frank zealot
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100 is firmly small-medium business

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it's not small small, but it's nowhere near big.

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Big by youtube standards? sure. But not big by others

green marsh
# frank zealot 100 is firmly small-medium business

i mean we are a software development company, but again, ~5 is a normal amount of people leaving a company every year (because we also hire the same amount or more). But for a youtuber company, if every person also makes a 'i quit' video, that will be visible.

Plus obviously people will not say it's their fault they have to go sometimes (not saying anything about the 'leaving LTT people', i do not watch those videos). But we had a person who was let go for being double employed without disclosing it first - i bet if it was someone fired for that from LTT he would make a sad person video 😄

frank zealot
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LTT's had way more departures than there have been videos

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I feel like most have been pretty quiet about it, unless they went on to make channels

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Speaking of leaving LMG...

I wonder what Emily's up to now... She hasn't made a video in forever

green marsh
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OT: watching olympics, damn, how much i hate the drone buzzing noises. Yes, they give amazing pictures, but the noise is so annoying

low sorrel
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@topaz veldt arc raiders?

edgy laurel
green marsh
edgy laurel
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fair

frank zealot
wraith steeple
topaz veldt
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aint no body got DIMMs

green marsh
topaz veldt
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dunno what im waiting for

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im lazy

green marsh
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i mean as i said, i have 720GB of RAM or so, but they are actually installed (well, most of it)

nocturne hatch
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soon the "your engine has a nice car" meme will start being "your ram has a nice computer"

green marsh
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still mostly annoyed by the fact that i can't combine my normal RAM with SODIMMs in that DIMM adapter

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systems run with either normal DIMM or SODIMM in DIMM adapter, but noth both - because SODIMM is single rank, while all my DIMM are dual RANK

topaz veldt
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I have way, way, too much memory on hand

shell void
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gotta sell it brochacho

wraith steeple
nimble pike
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I was planning on upgrading to 64GB this year and well... guess I'm not.

low sorrel
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32gb for life

green marsh
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that is on used market

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yeah, they aren't new modules, but hey, RAM is RAM

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and if for some reason you want new, then it's 750 euros for 6400CL40

frank zealot
# edgy laurel same. same.

I've got a (99% sure) working 13400 out of a dead mini PC

and a random HP Business Mini Tower with a 12100

What're the odds the 13400 drops in and just works?

green marsh
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hell, even this exists 😄

green marsh
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@frank zealot (if you laugh at 'free' - google translate sucks, by "free" they mean they are not blocked for some buyer)

buoyant basalt
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Does the brand of the gpu matter that much? The asus dual rx 9060xt and the sapphire nitro plus for example like the other one is 30 dollars more expensive ?

pure garnet
green marsh
frank zealot
green marsh
#

like these SODIMMs
250 euros is a lot for 64GB compared to ~120 euros when it was bottom, but it is still not in 'oh no, it's unreachable prices' territory

green marsh
nimble pike
buoyant basalt
nimble pike
#

Yes

frank zealot
#

brand means almost nothing

nimble pike
#

For me, I go for those brands, especially Sapphire, because of good engineering and warranty. They're somewhat less likely to screw you over.

frank zealot
nimble pike
#

Sapphire and XFX in particular have AMAZING cooler engineers.

topaz veldt
#

I mean... if you ignore the ones that literally didn't cool

nimble pike
#

Which ones?

#

We going back to Vega?

green marsh
nimble pike
#

The R9 380x I had from XFX was great.

green marsh
frank zealot
#

And hp made the most annoying nvme cooler

nimble pike
#

Wait no, 280x

#

But look at how cool this card looks. She ran well.

pure garnet
#

it has a screw so what do the retention clips do???

frank zealot
frank zealot
#

at worst, I put the 12100 back in

#

(but 12100 to 13400 is a significant jump, so worth it if it works)

green marsh
frank zealot
#

so I'd have to move it to a new board first

green marsh
green marsh
pure garnet
#

i feel like swapping the cpu is faster than trying to see if it works

topaz veldt
#

5700 XTs were plagued by bad cooler contact

green marsh
# frank zealot the PC it's in is dead

nevermind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raptor_Lake says Raptor lake as group is CPUID code B0671, so it is supported by latest BIOS for HP Elite Tower 600 G9

Raptor Lake is Intel's codename for the 13th and 14th generations of Intel Core processors as well as some Core Series 1 and 2 processors. It is based on a hybrid architecture, utilizing Raptor Cove performance cores and Gracemont efficient cores. Some lower-end SKUs branded as Raptor Lake are based on Alder Lake, with Golden Cove P-cores and Al...

green marsh
frank zealot
#

neat! 😄

#

(I've had several of these die in one are of the plant, I feel like it's related to the book gluing machine there. So I've been slowly swapping them out with fanless industrial PCs instead)

green marsh
#

step by step guide:

  1. download EXE BIOS file
  2. extract using WinRARE
  3. find the big file (32MB in this case)
  4. install python3
  5. download MCExtractor (https://github.com/platomav/MCExtractor) and latest DB
  6. run python MCE.py BIOSFILENAME
  7. check if the CPUID of desires CPU is in the list
frank zealot
#

ohhhh, I just realized these dead PCs included WiFi 6E Cards. sweet! 😄

#

intel AX211NGW cards

#

@topaz veldt
Here's a random find you won't see often:

green marsh
#

that specific BIOS file supports CPUID 90672, B0671, 90675, B06F2, B06F5, B06F6, B06F7, B0671 and B0674

#

unfortunately cpu-world is going crazy and banned my ISP, so i can't check the database

frank zealot
#

weird

#

FB Marketplace..

Please never change. (Dafuq is a "collector's hammer" ?)

frank zealot
#

ROFL FB... WTF is this for?
Who would buy this?!

green marsh
edgy laurel
frank zealot
#

squints
This is sus good pricing

edgy laurel
#

crazy price, massive punctuation problems in the listing..

frank zealot
#

if real, you could easily flip those for double (or more) your money

#

but I feel like there's a hell of a catch

green marsh
nimble pike
#

There's Gunners all over the place you have to hide from.

#

That's where the Minutemen were wiped out.

frank zealot
#

lol

#

Quincy was a rough fight

nimble pike
#

Preston still has nightmares about it

merry stirrup
nimble pike
#

That's also not how they look

merry stirrup
#

yeah its apart of the description lol

nimble pike
#

It's hard to tell with the resolution

#

But I'd be quite suspicious

#

They're either fake or heavily used.

frank zealot
nimble pike
#

AH, new account

#

I've been seeing Steam Decks near me for like $200

#

And I'm like, there's no way.

green marsh
hollow temple
frank zealot
raw zinc
#

Yo so like my PC will have a complete freeze at no specific time or interval it just freezes entirely and the only way to fix it is if i restart my PC also when I restart it turns on turns off then goes to the BIOS screen i click exit and then it turns off again and turns on normally

topaz veldt
#

literally no information

devout ridge
#

the equivalent of "my car is broken, fix it"

raw zinc
devout ridge
topaz veldt
#

OMG - @edgy laurel did you hear about the EPA change today

#

I don't care what you think of this administration... they just removed the requirement of auto manufacturers implementing auto start-stop mechanisms!

edgy laurel
#

I did see that headline

topaz veldt
#

AMAZING

edgy laurel
#

It is, for my own sanity

topaz veldt
#

I have it coded off on every car I have but dude that bullshit cost so many people so many bearings

edgy laurel
#

but I've also never bothered to look into the data of what good it did to begin with

#

for normies

topaz veldt
#

imho its unsafe

#

I can't count how many times im sitting in traffic and someones car doesn't start right away, as they sit in the intersection

edgy laurel
#

I've been meaning to get the cable from FCP to keep mine off

topaz veldt
#

but also yeah you are basically starting your engine over and over and over w/ no or low oil pressure

edgy laurel
#

when I forget to turn it off which is rare at this point and the engine stops, my heart sinks for a split second

topaz veldt
#

yup

edgy laurel
#

multiplying starter motor wear too

topaz veldt
pallid marsh
steel stream
topaz veldt
edgy laurel
#

I'd be ok with it staying a thing but there being an option to permanently turn it off in settings.

steel stream
brave panther
topaz veldt
#

The problem is that 99% of people don't understand how detrimental it is for your engine

steel stream
#

In the Audi my family has it's just a button, and you don't have to do it everytime

edgy laurel
#

thats changed

brave panther
#

tbh where i am going we are not stopping for a single second KEKW

edgy laurel
#

if you follow automotive news, whats worse is some ADAS features that require you to turn them off every time, and some are burried in the menus

topaz veldt
#

yeah its insane

#

No longer a requirement... thank god

#

It'll take a long time for them to roll it out

edgy laurel
#

well, start stop at least. The lane keep BS is another story

topaz veldt
#

but maybe dealers can officially offer a "permenant" flash

steel stream
edgy laurel
#

that stuff scares me, at least the versions that actually can control the steering

steel stream
#

yeah we've got an EV that can do it

fringe vigil
#

Yo

edgy laurel
#

Yo

brave panther
edgy laurel
steel stream
#

you have to fight it pretty hard which is not great

edgy laurel
#

I have automated braking and radar cruise, but those i'm good with. The latter I love a little too much

#

no lane keep assist

brave panther
steel stream
frank zealot
steel stream
frank zealot
#

dunno

steel stream
#

fuck me i missed luge

arctic bronze
fringe vigil
#

freddy fazbear

#

anyone played the fnaf games

steel stream
#

har

#

har har har har

fringe vigil
#

yh i har har them anyway

#

i har har har god of war

topaz veldt
#

i am so bored of PCs right now we need new shit

#

still wondering wtf happened with 290k

#

I bet they couldn't get 285Ks stable higher 🙂

fringe vigil
#

1 more year bud

turbid locust
steel stream
#

great image mac

turbid locust
#

thank you sir

#

@topaz veldt any luck with the explorer kill trick

topaz veldt
turbid locust
#

wack

topaz veldt
#

lol werkin

shell void
#

not enough interest in a 285KS in 2026

#

theyre going for value with the refresh

pure garnet
#

i mean why would you buy a 290k with the identical core config as a 270k yeah

fervent scaffold
#

Wifes over the top build that she wanted is complete for a total of $700

nimble pike
low sorrel
#

@topaz veldt arc?

fervent scaffold
fringe vigil
#

Nice bro

nimble pike
#

3080 for 300 is a good deal.

fervent scaffold
#

Oh yeah, BRAND NEW 32gb ddr4 for $60 off marketplace

#

I dont think the guy knew whats going on with ram, i picked that up last week

nimble pike
#

I desperately need more RAM

fervent scaffold
#

Oh yeah also the thermalright aio for $50 new

#

And a new 850 watt vetroo modular psu for like $70? $80? Can’t remember

#

1 500gb inland nvme and 1tb pny nvme

#

I had those laying around

topaz veldt
fringe vigil
#

Ok

low sorrel
cyan canopy
topaz veldt
atomic veldt
#

would a 5080 be good to pair with a 5700x3d? or is that to much i play 1440p btw

unreal vector
#

I’m using memtest if 3 passes pass with 0 error should I do the 4th pass or should I do the 4th pass just in cases

harsh sail
edgy laurel
#

I have this problem where I need to buy a thing at the grocery store but I only remember I need to buy this thing when i'm home and not at the grocery store. Its aso not important enough to need to make a special trip just for it. This was the AA's i finally remembered to buy for my C2's remote. Its been complaining that they are dying since Thanksgiving.

nimble pike
#

I mean a 3080 is faster than a 5060 or 9060, so you're getting a good card for $300.

harsh sail
edgy laurel
nimble pike
#

Nahhhh 3080 runs great

edgy laurel
#

that statement doesn't make any sense

nimble pike
#

Buy an EVGA one and you're golden.

edgy laurel
#

and neither does that. Being EVGA doesn't preclude it or any card from the aformentioned points.

harsh sail
#

I see a bunch of gigabyte ones for 330 and the one for 300 is water blocked so probably a bit more work to do there

edgy laurel
#

If its what you want, no worries. Just making sure all points are out in the open.

nimble pike
#

Even heavily used EVGA ones run fine like brand new.

harsh sail
#

Oh wow 4080s will be 300 dollars …. in 2029

#

Not so exciting anymore then

edgy laurel
nimble pike
#

I mean, there's always a risk to buying a used GPU, sure. But the EVGA ones I've used have NEVER needed anything more than a dusting.

edgy laurel
#

But you know what, turns out I don't care lol. Seems like a brick wall situation.

nimble pike
#

Gigabyte on the other hand... you're gonna need to tear that thing down.

edgy laurel
nimble pike
#

I mean, it depends on the era and manufacturer, but from personal experience, every EVGA 20 or 30 series card I've encountered has run fine with the pads and paste it came with. Compare that to the Gigabyte cards I've run which have had dried icky paste from the same era.

#

The TUF cards are pretty good with that, too.

#

Different brand and models DO skimp out on paste and pads.

pure garnet
edgy laurel
low sorrel
edgy laurel
pure garnet
#

do i have more remotes then you then

edgy laurel
#

almost certainly

low sorrel
#

side note

#

the ltt precision screwdriver is so annoying

#

i keep spinning it too much

edgy laurel
#

I kinda wanted to see how long my C2 remote would go on the "dying" batteries but the popup every time I touched it was getting irritating

pure garnet
#

ac, tv, dac, bed, atv remote (recharges on it's own)

#

9 aaa total

edgy laurel
#

I have more things that use coincells than I do AA or AAA's lol

low sorrel
#

I never use coin cells im not going to even lie\

pure garnet
#

my mom goes through c batteries like candy

edgy laurel
#

two keyfobs and I guess motherboards (though i've never actually needed to change a coin cell on one of my own motherboards)

edgy laurel
low sorrel
#

oh right keyfobs

pure garnet
#

all the amazon led decorative stuff she’s bought over the years uses them

edgy laurel
#

looking at a 4-pack of Type C rechargeable AA's for $17. I paid $4 for the normies. Eh, i'll survive another few years

pure garnet
#

yeah fair

edgy laurel
#

stupid two-way RF smart remotes. I wanted the remote to just stop working one day instead of the annoying popup

pure garnet
#

i think my tcl remote is bluetooth

#

because the apple tv couldn’t find the signal to mimic volume control

#

i have to use earc

edgy laurel
#

yeah I think since remotes started moving to RF over IR, a lot of that happens through HDMI now

#

CEC

pure garnet
#

this is really my first time ever using cec for anything

edgy laurel
#

oh, was the Optimum video on the 5090 Lightning shared yet

#

I was pretty busy this morning

pure garnet
#

my vizio i got for free did not do much in the smart department besides “yahoo stocks”

edgy laurel
# pure garnet this is really my first time ever using cec for anything

its pretty neat, actually. With a full TV/Receiver/multiple input devices into the recevier setup, there is basically no "setup" anymore. One remote and it just kinda figures it out when you power up a device. All the inputs switch to where they need to be, volume works, etc..

Frankly, a necessary step. The old way of programming remote codes and manually switching inputs was ass.

pure garnet
#

i had to reprogram the cable box remote enough times growing up to not miss doing it

edgy laurel
#

exactly

pure garnet
#

my cable provider is just iptv with free fire sticks now

#

so i guess they’re tried of it too

#

they’re not rented they just give you one with the first month of service

edgy laurel
#

they're cheap enough, i can see it

pure garnet
#

they’re also relatively easy enough for the elderly to figure out

cosmic gazelle
#

placed a bid to get a ryzen 5 2600 for 30 bucks

#

we’ll see if i get it

#

people near me sell b450 boards for 50 bucks

steel stream
#

yo @edgy laurel Death Stranding 2 on PC March 19th

brisk jolt
brisk jolt
#

ngl i might pick up DS if thats the case since thats pretty close to my holidays

shell void
#

evga kingpin products were awesome, but the rest was medicore

lethal topaz
#

I have mildly bad news

#

i have ignored the smart warning and now my raid pool is degraded

shell void
young void
lethal topaz
#

well i restarted and now the pool is not showing degraded anymore

#

the backups are still commencing

cosmic gazelle
#

@merry stirrup you ever done memory on zen+ before

lethal topaz
#

the error number here used to be 32 but i guess zfs is tripping or something

cosmic gazelle
#

@young void what dat mean

young void
#

Floppas does all the mem tuning so probs

cosmic gazelle
#

i’m potentially gonna get a $120 r5 2600 system thrown together and learn to oc

#

so that if i blow something up i haven’t lost much money

young void
#

Wishing lucks bless

cosmic gazelle
#

if i get outbid on this ebay auction ill probably go for an apu instead

#

doing a max oc on a 200ge or something could be fun

young void
#

Happens, ebays a tough market. Can still get the occasional deal but roughs

cosmic gazelle
#

i got almost 70 bucks for a 3600x recently

#

$212.50 for a 12700

nimble pike
proper forge
#

trying to part out my old rig

#

old fx 8320 rig with 16 gb of ram

cosmic gazelle
cosmic gazelle
#

i wanted amd because it’s potentially more challenging than intel

#

and ddr4

proper forge
#

i reoverclocked my rig after sitting not oc for awhile and cooked a memory channel and some other features lol

cosmic gazelle
nimble pike
#

Yeah but 4790k can overclock to infinity with the right chip and cooling

proper forge
#

anyone want 16 GB of ddr3 ?

lone scarab
#

that makes that chip fastest

#

which it isnt

lone scarab
#

cant afford ram

proper forge
#

lol

cosmic gazelle
lone scarab
#

💔

shell void
#

i wasnt aware that thermalright sold monitors

proper forge
#

Its only worth like $20 DDR4 and DDR5 are nuts

nimble pike
#

I just sold my 4790k yesterday. Gonna miss her.

proper forge
#

that monitor looks like someone took a normal monitor and stretched its image

cosmic gazelle
proper forge
#

I miss my fx 8320

lone scarab
proper forge
#

got a decent deal on an i7 9700k 32GB 1080 ti and 1.25 tb of m.2 ssd storage and a seasonic PSU

lone scarab
#

how much

cosmic gazelle
#

9700k 😝

nimble pike
proper forge
#

to replace my fx 8320 wth 16 Gb and an rx 590 and only 120 gb of ssd

#

had two hard drives.

nimble pike
#

I want a new GPU

cosmic gazelle
nimble pike
proper forge
#

Paid $650 for the new rig a little high maybe but I dont have money for new ddr4 or ddr5 memory or m.2 ssds

#

moved all my storage over to it and transfered my 120 gb boot ssd to 256 gb m.2

nimble pike
proper forge
#

so I now have like 5 tb of storage

#

with memory prices it really isnt guy just upgrades frequently

#

was an evga card too

cosmic gazelle
#

i’d say it’s a little overpriced given the current used landscape but at least you got 32gb

nimble pike
#

We love EVGA here

cosmic gazelle
#

you didn’t get screwed and that’s what matters

proper forge
#

my market isnt very dense with used. live in the boonies in nw Iowa

nimble pike
#

Yeah, that's moreso what I meant.

proper forge
#

lots of people thinking there i7 4700k rig is worth $450

nimble pike
cosmic gazelle
#

you wouldn’t believe it if you saw it

proper forge
#

well it probably plays doom well

nimble pike
cosmic gazelle
#

i have a laptop with a core 2 duo t8300, one of the better mobile core 2s. it will launch rimworld and it plays at approximately 2 frames per second

nimble pike
#

A few years ago Penium 3 was worthless. Now they're going up in price.

cosmic gazelle
#

well my sample is nearly perfect condition and has 3gb of ram. so maybe it’ll get some attention soon haha

#

it loads up ubuntu 24.04 without complaining too much

nimble pike
#

I have a really good condition MacBook Pro that I'm waiting to become "vintage"

#

It can run YouTube at 900p!

proper forge
#

My first system I really gamed on I truely remember is a dell inspiron 1501 or similar

nimble pike
#

I should clarify MacBook Pro

proper forge
#

it got like 5 fps in minecraft

nimble pike
#

I mean... THE MacBook Pro

#

2007

#

First Intel MacBook

#

Core Duo and Nvidia 7600GT

#

She gets a good 10fps in Bioshock

cosmic gazelle
#

a bit sad

nimble pike
#

At 100% utilization my MacBook can load an LTT videom

cosmic gazelle
#

I’m waiting for the greatest mobile processor ever made to become vintage, the i7 3632qm

#

truly unparalleled for its time

proper forge
#

good old days when intel was king

#

and their cpus didnt draw to much power and kill themselves about as effectively as emo kids

#

my first pc that could really do something was an i3 3220 dell desktop

#

and a r7 265

cosmic gazelle
#

mine was a i5 4670 and rx 550 4gb lol

#

stupid purchase but i made that thing game its little heart out

nimble pike
#

My biggest regret was selling my Rampage board

brisk eagle
nimble pike
#

They still work if ALL you do is game

brisk eagle
#

yes they “work”

fringe vigil
#

WTF IS going on with youtube

indigo walrus
fringe vigil
#

bro

indigo walrus
#

Seems to be working fine for me in Google Chrome on my desktop.

fringe vigil
#

its always saying this content is not available, please try again later

fringe vigil
lone scarab
fringe vigil
#

naaa

#

its not

charred lava
hoary hatch
charred lava
#

I'm the cookie

cosmic gazelle
charred lava
#

replace the missing keys on the model m

cosmic gazelle
#

this subreddit is awesome

charred lava
#

lmao

#

love the intake fan

edgy laurel
edgy laurel
cosmic gazelle
#

@edgy laurel figured you might get a little bit of pain from this one

edgy laurel
#

interesting. wouldn't have expected that

pure garnet
#

disable vrm throttling
vrm explodes
problem exists between keyboard and chair

turbid locust
#

good ol pebkac

edgy laurel
#

how shitty does a board need to be to blow on an AMD 8-core

turbid locust
#

I mean that’s an HDV, should be more than fine for a 9800x3d

#

I suspect more fuckery ngl

pure garnet
turbid locust
#

banger

brisk jolt
#

prob put it in the drawer tbh

livid flame
#

I have to question what he was doing to get his VRM to 125c

brisk jolt
#

Playing CS2/Valorant planting the bo-

pure garnet
livid flame
#

Someone once told me not to worry about VRMs on a motherboard when recommending people don’t buy budget

#

This is why I always tell people never to buy a PRIME motherboard which has worse VRMs

#

Disabling VRM throttling though KEKW

fringe vigil
#

I lost my pet snail Gary

turbid locust
wise bear
turbid locust
#

that guys just an idiot

brave panther
low sorrel
#

have yall ever wanted to just close your eyes for a split second

#

and wake up 5 hours later

indigo walrus
merry stirrup
merry stirrup
merry stirrup
zenith apex
#

insane, my PC appreciated by over $1k in value

#

from barely $1k to over $2k

#

processor, ssd, ram, and gpu, all became more expensive than when i bought it

south shuttle
#

my gpu +$250 and ram +$200 + $300 + $150

burnt socket
merry stirrup
frank cypress
#

hell yeah

#

set the 13700k back up

frank cypress
lavish moth
#

Hey guys what do you think about risc-v

burnt socket
burnt socket
karmic folio
#

No

livid flame
#

Just found the worlds best anti sag bracket

#

Not my system btw

burnt socket
proven saddle
reef lance
proven saddle
burnt socket
#

buys 64gb ddr5 6400 cl30

brisk jolt
#

you really couldnt have picked something better with a stolen cc?

random flame
snow holly
#

I used to game on a laptop with a broken screen hdmi to tv

And the laptop was propped up on a cardboard box

random flame
snow holly
random flame
#

Oh damn, the whole collection.

brisk jolt
shell void
#

pretty ass board

brisk jolt
#

little wonder why the macbin can do 6400

shell void
topaz veldt
#

for those interested in the above screenshot

brisk jolt
#

Do i want to sell my 9950x3d for a 9850?

#

Considering now I have the 265K

topaz veldt
#

what SP is your 9950X3d?

brisk jolt
#

With PBO? CCD0 gets up to 5.75 and thats it

#

I firmly believe gear 2 8000 on this is a lost cause

#

Outside of gaming I find myself using the 265K more bcs both it and the 285K trade blows with the 9950x3d

shell void
#

you’d think they would’ve given it a scratch resistant glass cover

shell void
shell void
#

that’s lame

brisk jolt
shell void
topaz veldt
#

Its funny... somehow, with AM5, I hit the lottery

#

Intel? Once in a blue moon

shell void
#

same and i didn’t want to like AM5

brisk jolt
#

all roads lead to am5

shell void
#

i was hoping my 9800X3D was a turd so i could just return it and wait for the 9950X3D

topaz veldt
#

Out of 71 CPUs binned they got 3 SP121s.... I binned 1 and got 1 SP121 🙂

brisk jolt
#

my zen 5 so far have all been turds

topaz veldt
#

I had one dud 9950X3D

#

I sold that puppy on

#

but my 9800X3Ds were generally good, my 9850X3D is the highest SP you can get, my current 9950X3D is high/highest

brisk jolt
#

My CCD1 9950x3d doesnt handle OC well

shell void
#

5750 is good for 3d cores bro

brisk jolt
#

as for CCD0 it seems to be a similar sample to my 9800 for PBO

shell void
#

oh you said ccd1 nvm

brisk jolt
topaz veldt
#

I am still not convinced 9950X3D2 is real

brisk jolt
#

but ccd1 stinks

shell void
brisk jolt
#

I need to redo my ITX cables next

topaz veldt
#

and yet like... day 124 no coming

wraith steeple
#

level1tech?

#

As for the discord server

shell void
wraith steeple
#

Always bet on nothing

topaz veldt
#

Shit btw I was reading the wrong chart

turbid locust
#

Time isn’t real

topaz veldt
#

Unicorn time is non-linear

cosmic gazelle
#

i just saw a huge car fire on a parked mercedes

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i heard mac was still trying to overclock his 9850 inside

arctic bronze
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@brisk jolt dude i had the weirdest dream, linus made a movie and it ended up just being a long ass youtube poop / parody

topaz veldt
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I had a dream that I borrowed my father in laws car to pick up docs at a hospital and it got broken into and someone stole the steering wheel, then the hospital came to have it towed

arctic bronze
topaz veldt
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Locked gum is alpha move

arctic bronze
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Then sitama from one punch man appearded with a tiny face and was like half bald and said "im about to release" after staring at the camera for what felt like an eternity and then punched a hole into something, idk what it was as for some reason i got distracted and then the movie ended and linus appeared in tin foil and asked how the movie was

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turbid locust
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We should bring back the guillotine for anyone who parks so shitty that they take up two spots

arctic bronze
turbid locust
shell void
arctic bronze
shell void
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unsurprisingly a Z990 board with beefy VRM is req. for U9 495K

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“we have HEDT at home”

turbid locust
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I can’t wait for NVL to be an uncoolable hellscape

shell void
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the fact that it can get up to 700W shows that it runs cool mac

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it’ll be the coldest running consumer cpu at any wattage normalization

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the easiest to cool

wraith steeple
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Having the BassBone WC Consulting Team on speed dial

devout ridge
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most chips with lots of cores run decently cool since the heat is so spread out

wraith steeple
devout ridge
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it’s the low core count, high clockspeed chips that run hot

shell void
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just leave it at the default 350W or whatevs and it’ll probably run at like 50c in cinebench with a peerless assassin xD

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it’ll be the coldest running and most efficient consumer processor for multithread

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anyone who spins a different narrative is a fraud

raw zinc
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is overclocking with GPU tweak worth it?

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does it give less lifespan to the gpu

turbid locust
turbid locust
young void
turbid locust
# raw zinc ah

(you can’t hurt a card with gpu tweak or msi afterburner) lol

raw zinc
young void
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If it crashes reduce oc and try again

turbid locust
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worst thing that happens is you set unstable OC settings and the drivers time out

raw zinc
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also is this a good PSU? anyone have this one?

topaz veldt
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i have several of those

turbid locust
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I’ve got the RM1000e and it’s solid

young void
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Love me some good corsair psu

turbid locust
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ran my 14900k 5090 fine

wraith steeple
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CWT is its OEM and it's solid

turbid locust
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Silent the whole time

raw zinc
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right now iu have an older version and its 750W and its failing so I need to replace it

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I was gonna go with that one the newer model

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and more wattage

topaz veldt
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If you want a really fun PSU to work with get the SF1000

south shuttle
south shuttle
young void
raw zinc
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its 150

wraith steeple
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currency?

south shuttle
topaz veldt
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RM1000x is solid

raw zinc
topaz veldt
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And great warranty

south shuttle
raw zinc
south shuttle
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vanish

raw zinc
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home address?

raw zinc
south shuttle
raw zinc
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ah okay

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let me guess ur american

young void
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Anywhere there is bird spiders or similar i shall avoid

south shuttle
wraith steeple
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Either way, the RMx unit you showed is a quality unit kominod

south shuttle
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i’m from eu

raw zinc
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ohh this one looks nice

young void
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I hear some peeps enjoy their montech, havent seen any burn out yet. Mind you I havent really looked into it

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steel stream
topaz veldt
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One reason I don't recommend these newer cheap (but same OEM etc as others) brands is because of warranty and support

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Montech popped up in the last year

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Who knows where they'll be in 10 years - at least Corsair is well established and the difference is like $10-20 who cares

wraith steeple
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I have a Montech unit actually. Titan Gold 1200W to be exact