last i looked 4070ti super and 4080 were both massively overpriced in the usa, but maybe it's different where he is
#tech-chat-2
shell void
pallid marsh
Nvidia has better and more software features and will probably support their cards longer looks at the nearly maintenance mode rx 5700xt
shell void
Nvidia has better and more software features and will probably support their car...
honestly literally everything except radeon 9000 can be considered shelved now
theyve refused to formally release int8 fsr4 for a year even though itll work on rdna2 and rdna3
your card is one gen old and lisa says throw it away
pallid marsh
Int8 fsr4 is a game changer for the steam deck
frank zealot
Nvidia has better and more software features and will probably support their car...
the rx 6000 and 7000 are basically maintenance now, too
tranquil finch
I just dont understand people that would choose even 3050 over 9070xt 😭
frank zealot
As an RX 7900 user? AMD Pissed me off by dumping most support for my GPU already
low sorrel
Where did the 3050 come in here
edgy laurel
I just dont understand people that would choose even 3050 over 9070xt 😭
They wouldn't.
frank zealot
I just dont understand people that would choose even 3050 over 9070xt 😭
that's a dumbassed comparison for nothing but ragebait
vestal granite
i dont like any of these gpu companies any more, can we have china gpus
i want less stable GPUs for more fun gameplay
tranquil finch
Well, some people really would, fortnite kids
shell void
As an RX 7900 user? AMD Pissed me off by dumping most support for my GPU alread...
$700 7900XT couldve ended up being a great longterm purchase if AMD didnt fuck you
with Int8 FSR4 it's still a totally relevant powerful 20GB card outside of RT/PT
vestal granite
i miss the days of my graphics drivers crashing because i opened radeon overlay and windows snipping tool at the same time
give me more instability and less cost
shell void
i miss the days of my graphics drivers crashing because i opened radeon overlay ...
you can buy a radeon gpu today and experience a crash when you try to open adrenalin
low sorrel
$700 7900XT couldve ended up being a great longterm purchase if AMD didnt fuck y...
Im still pissed I didn't snipe that 1000 CAD 7900xtx and 7800x3d a while back
The avatar one
vestal granite
$80 modern day RX 580 equivalent pls
shell void
80 dollar new gpu? xD
low sorrel
What's that like 2gb of vram these days?
shell void
you might be able to find a rtx 2060 for $80 on facebook or somethin
vestal granite
80 dollar new gpu? xD
thats what i bought my rx 580 for a 16 months after release
low sorrel
you might be able to find a rtx 2060 for $80 on facebook or somethin
Nah those still go for like 120
shell void
on eBay yeah, might find lower locally
low sorrel
US
vestal granite
there was a time when i knew this
cosmic gazelle
i’ve set up my media center pc to use steam input to control the desktop using only my controller
can’t believe i never thought of this before
vestal granite
there was a time when i knew this
instead of tracking every gpu price im repurposing my high powered (real and not untrue) retail price scraping into just monitoring individual product listing prices and then people can track whatever they want instead of me tracking 15,000 GPU listings when 14998 of them are useless
knowmsayn
pallid marsh
Im still pissed I didn't snipe that 1000 CAD 7900xtx and 7800x3d a while back
Or the $99 5060
shell void
i tried to get those absurdly cheap 5060/5060ti's during blackfriday on newegg but they were all instantly botted
low sorrel
Or the $99 5060
Or the 400 dollar 4070
shell void
as youd expect when they only offered like 20 of them
low sorrel
i tried to get those absurdly cheap 5060/5060ti's during blackfriday on newegg b...
Next time I'm writing a bot
cosmic gazelle
dude
i’m so mad i don’t have a ton of disposable income rn, somebody on marketplace had an i7-1360p laptop for 95 bucks
low sorrel
What
cosmic gazelle
that’s an easy 100 dollar profit right there
shell void
find the money
vestal granite
seek outside investment
pallid marsh
i’m so mad i don’t have a ton of disposable income rn, somebody on marketplace h...
Only 4p cores smh
cosmic gazelle
find the money
def gone by now lol
low sorrel
Mug someone for 100 bucks and make 200 bucks profit
vestal granite
is intel 7 the one thats 10nm
shell void
yeh
vestal granite
love that for intel
vestal granite
facebook marketplace around here is interesting
brave panther
have to be content with my $30 p1000
i will soon have 4 of them lol
cosmic gazelle
i will soon have 4 of them lol
did you see my p620 to p1000 before and after results
brave panther
no
cosmic gazelle
vestal granite
what is this, iphone notes app?
brave panther
is this at 480p
low sorrel
facebook marketplace around here is interesting
Where do you live
Why do you have 4 states in your marketplace
cosmic gazelle
is this at 480p
720 or 768 depending on the game, except fortnite which defaulted to 1080
vestal granite
Where do you live
i live in jersey city which is across the hudson from manhattan
so ive got like pennsylvania to the west, connecticut to the north, NY to the east
brave panther
720 or 768 depending on the game, except fortnite which defaulted to 1080
not bad for a 10 year old "low end" workstation gpu option
cosmic gazelle
not bad for a 10 year old "low end" workstation gpu option
the vram was a big deal in rdr2 because red dead doesn’t let you change settings in game with 2gb of vram because it says you don’t have enough 😂😂
low sorrel
i live in jersey city which is across the hudson from manhattan
Is it bad that the only thing I know about jersey is that it's the place across the Hudson river that Sully landed in
vestal granite
bunch of midd ass mid shit in the GPU department
vestal granite
Is it bad that the only thing I know about jersey is that it's the place across ...
jersey city goes under the radar mostly, its comparable to like a brooklyn, its not a major huge city but it is a proper city if that makes sense
pallid marsh
i live in jersey city which is across the hudson from manhattan
Don't ride Ebikes after July 19th without license plate,registration, insurance, and a dot certified helmet
vestal granite
why would i ride ebikes
pallid marsh
Idk but they are now classified as motorcycles in Jersey no matter the kind
vestal granite
thats cool
theyre fucking dangerous to travel at 25mph on a street with no helmet and if you hit someone youre gonna badly injure them
pallid marsh
Even the low power European kind are motorcycles that top out at 15mph and will turn off the motor if you go past that
low sorrel
jersey city goes under the radar mostly, its comparable to like a brooklyn, its ...
Brooklyn isn't a big city?
vestal granite
Brooklyn isn't a big city?
well its sprawled
low sorrel
cosmic gazelle
not bad for a 10 year old "low end" workstation gpu option
also have to consider those results are on a power limited 4790k and a high end cpu could possibly squeeze out a couple additional frames
low sorrel
jersey city goes under the radar mostly, its comparable to like a brooklyn, its ...
Only 300k population?
pallid marsh
You guys cheat though.you Bring people from out of the country smh
vestal granite
Only 300k population?
heres the size comparison
low sorrel
heres the size comparison
Size doesn't matter
brave panther
heres the size comparison
topaz veldt
Only 300k population?
jersey city is the place nyc people live, still say "I live in the city" but pay like 80% less
vestal granite
exactly
vestal granite
exactly thats how i like it
pallid marsh
Isn't nj smelly?
vestal granite
nyc is smelly too
topaz veldt
Isn't nj smelly?
like the inside of a tire where a racoon died
vestal granite
nj just has a different aroma
low sorrel
jersey city is the place nyc people live, still say "I live in the city" but pay...
Ok so Langley
vestal granite
around here it just smells like cumin and parsley
low sorrel
Langley man don't kill me
vestal granite
way i sees it is yeah i could go live in brooklyn but then id be living in ny AND id be further away from NYC so this is a nice middleground for me where i can get into nyc when i need to but otherwise i have normal city stuff going on
spiral quarry
Langley man don't kill me
The dragon always lurks 👀
low sorrel
real question why do phones have rounded screens? aren't you losing some content thatway
vestal granite
because modern design is round
pallid marsh
real question why do phones have rounded screens? aren't you losing some content...
Because corners hurt palms
vestal granite
oh his thing is smarter
low sorrel
Because corners hurt palms
make the screen cornered and the bezel round
shell void
you could, but that's less sexy
spiral quarry
Because corners hurt palms
Lol reminds me when I had my razer phone 2. Corners dug into my hands.
Short lived device I had though
pallid marsh
Lol reminds me when I had my razer phone 2. Corners dug into my hands.
You bought a gamer phone?!
low sorrel
i had some asus phone back in the day
i forgot what
zenfone 3
I really like the samsung pinhole camera
it looks clean
cosmic gazelle
this thing
wish people still maintained lineageos or something for this thing
spiral quarry
You bought a gamer phone?!
gifted
same with my cousin so we both had it at the same time, he's just been dealing with it for a while now
merry stirrup
@pure garnet we so lit rn
low sorrel
I really like the samsung pinhole camera
I am not excited to buy a phone for the first time when this s22 breaks
pure garnet
<@438101365416263681> we so lit rn
oh did it arrive
toss both gpus in and lmk if they work bc i wanna use that money to finish paying off my phone
low sorrel
Getting shit gifted or literally finding it in the recycling bin feels so much nicer then buying stuff
merry stirrup
yeah i did a lil unboxing vid but its too large for dih cord i think
the arc card single handedly gives me the cleanest output to my capture card so far
pure garnet
week 1 iphone 17 pro
week 2 ice soup
pallid marsh
Getting shit gifted or literally finding it in the recycling bin feels so much n...
Like your cousins ram
low sorrel
Like your cousins ram
Yeah that's still wild to me
warm urchin
this thing
I had a blackberry keyone for like a month before it caught fire while charging
pure garnet
the arc card single handedly gives me the cleanest output to my capture card so ...
meanwhile my 6700xt does 1024x768
😭
turbid locust
baller
merry stirrup
not baller
shell void
never in my life have i seen elpida
merry stirrup
well you have unfortunately now
shell void
is this the max level chineseum
shell void
oh makes sense that i havent seen elpida, they havent been relevant since 2014
shell void
what is it? gtx 970?
pure garnet
yeah
shell void
goated card despite the vram scandle
still more gddr5 than a 780ti which it performed similarly to for half the price
pallid marsh
What was the law suit payout $20 a person?
pure garnet
i bought it about 2 years ago becuase it was the minimum requirements to play ffxiv
well, 7700k + 970 was, and i wanted to see how my 6700k/970 setup would fare
chunky game now
shell void
minimum windows 11 and i7 7700, but i7 7700 isnt officially suported in windows 11
im guessing itll run fine on anything windows 10 20H2+
merry stirrup
yeah 970 is good theyre both workin
pure garnet
minimum windows 11 and i7 7700, but i7 7700 isnt officially suported in windows ...
they updated the requirements on october 10th without bumping up the cpu
or whenever windows 10 went eol
the game runs fine on win 10 square just will not help you at ALL if you run the game on windows 10
pure garnet
yeah 970 is good theyre both workin
word
i had to swap to a different tape like halfway through packing your latest order
shell void
the game runs fine on win 10 square just will not help you at ALL if you run the...
i wonder if mainline windows 10 support will be extended
iirc still half of windows PCs are using windows 10
theyll have a hard time convincing people that they need to buy new parts and use copilot
south shuttle
i still run win 10 ehhe
shell void
i still run win 10 ehhe
i just remade an install usb for it today, ill go back when i get bored
merry stirrup
i had to swap to a different tape like halfway through packing your latest order
damn
pure garnet
brutal
merry stirrup
also it does NOT do +150 core so im fo SHO blowing this thing up with volts
shell void
the 7% better performance in cpu limited gaming in windows 24H2+ with branch prediction updated is cool, but i havent been able to defeat the visual artifacts that exist in 24H2+ so it's meh
south shuttle
i made copies of my win 10 medias in case i lose one
shell void
everything in 21H2 just works with 0 bugs ever
pure garnet
coffee lake is still the most popular type of hardware
i know firefox isn't perfect dataset for normies but this is best we got afaik
south shuttle
coffee lake is still the most popular type of hardware
8700k was nice
pure garnet
it's coffee, tiger lake, and then haswell for top 3 on here
pure garnet
768p is dying 
shell void
for a sec i was wondering why 768p was prevalent at all because that was a TV res, but i remembered that a lot of laptops used it too
instead of just using 1280x720p for whatever reason
pure garnet
bascially every laptop i saw that wasn't 1080p was 768p
aside from my thinkpad that was 1600x900 tn factory
edgy laurel
don't forget 1280x800
south shuttle
phones also used a lot of sorts of wonky resolutions
pure garnet
honestly windows 11 has had a more steady growth then people would make you think
shell void
20% of users still being in windows 7 in 2021 is kinda crazy
though i guess it's still safe to use today
vista (6) and windows 7 (6.1) got their last security patch in january 2026
merry stirrup
the elpida mem is so bad 😭
pure garnet
tatical sandbag
merry stirrup
im so blowing this shit up
pure garnet
What is "has flash"
adobe flash
shell void
rip flash
shell void
welcome to the USA brother jorj
fringe vigil
thank you brother
shell void
shell void
sad days when an 80 lane hedt cpu is cheaper than 64gb of ddr5 rdimms
frank cypress
sad days when an 80 lane hedt cpu is cheaper than 64gb of ddr5 rdimms
real
shell void
fuck the korean ram mafia
frank cypress
I paid less for my 128gb of ram than 32gb of ram costs today.....
frank cypress
fuck the korean ram mafia
hey I dont blame them, I blame the stupid fucking ai companies
shell void
I paid less for my 128gb of ram than 32gb of ram costs today.....
sames my two 2x32 kits were both about $160 apiece
same with my 2x24 8000cl36 1.4v patriot kit
frank cypress
ngl I dont really understand how they're being scummy
like, I feel like the ai shit-uation is temporary so it makes sense that they're not increase production capacity
shell void
i can understand why a business would want to maximize profits, but i dont respect it
i dont love capitalism even though i participate in it to survive
harsh sail
https://x.com/SperanzaIntel/status/2020882883490050288?s=20
“Path to cheap ddr5 closes soon
Cheap ddr5 disappearing in 90 sekonds”
frank cypress
i dont love capitalism even though i participate in it to survive
fair
south shuttle
i dont love capitalism even though i participate in it to survive
pretty sure you would not like if all wealth was redistributed across globe within your lifespan
there are a lot of poor people out there
someone poor or modest would appreciate it though
shell void
im poor
i just dont pay rent because i live with my parents so i can afford graphics cards
shell void
thats so fire
wise bear
like ive been moody all day and cramping and i cried in the shower until it ran cold and i just wanted a burgy but i also ordered chicken strips and they gaVE ME AN EXTRA FROSTY AND SO MUCH DIP
south shuttle
i just dont pay rent because i live with my parents so i can afford graphics car...
well, if wealth was to be redisteibuted evenly you’d probably have to sell your parent’s house
wise bear
i got bbq and sweet chili sauce
south shuttle
and buy a smaller one
wise bear
i havent had wendys tendies
they're like the nuggs but better
south shuttle
like magically your house would get smaller
500-1000 trillion distributed across 8 bil people
shell void
they're like the nuggs but better
potentially yummy then
wise bear
wendys tendies are fire
shell void
500-1000 trillion distributed across 8 bil people
i dont wanna share my bedroom with random indian civilians
south shuttle
i dont wanna share my bedroom with random indian civilians
sell your house then 😛
it’s for the better good
pure garnet
i’m sure the first thing that’ll be redistributed is the average home on a loan owner and not the ones with billions
south shuttle
i’m talking about a hypothetical scenario where everything gets distributed evenly
expect like nuclear weapons
those will go to sane people
south shuttle
i mean i will remove the nukes
no nukes for anyone
when you’re already breaking reality why not all the way?
south shuttle
financed equity is the banks
they will stay but nobody shall get more wealthy
imagine how easy that is to implement kvetinky said
pure garnet
yes but unless michaels parents own the home outright it’s not theirs to need to redistribute
south shuttle
yes but unless michaels parents own the home outright it’s not theirs to need to...
no, you’re forced to redistribute
type of hypothetical scenario
south shuttle
an expensive operation/sugery? fuck that die and save 10 starving children
south shuttle
it's the banks
whatever you cannot redistribute gets erased or ignored
i love putting problems under the rug
pure garnet
so either like 90% of housing is instantly destroyed or not much changes
low sorrel
@merry stirrup I have great luck in tarkov, I signed up for one of those offical tarkov sessions and the sherpa said and I quote I have never in my 7000 hours of tarkov have seen someone die because of the map ambient noise covering up sound
south shuttle
so either like 90% of housing is instantly destroyed or not much changes
if you have 2x larger house than the limit you gotta live with someone else and if you have 1.5x you will have to live with someone 12 hrs a day
i don’t see where that could even go wrong
if someone doesn’t get this all i said so far is sarcasm obviously it wouldn’t work
the best you can do fr rn is help as an individual to a greater cause like donate to improve recycling industry
if big most plankton dies due to pollution and we won’t stop ever we’re good cooked as starved of oxygen
shell void
@edgy laurel i cant lie, downsizing is looking less appealing by the day
i hope the rumors of the 42" C6 having higher brightness are true, but im skeptical
edgy laurel
i hope the rumors of the 42" C6 having higher brightness are true, but im skepti...
when will we see more?
shell void
more thorough reviews are typically available around easter time, and prices are more responsible in the july to november time
so we’ll be waiting a bit
hoary hatch
New desk chair time
indigo walrus
New desk chair time
That can't possibly be an official Boeing part...
edgy laurel
covert rock
hmm
merry stirrup
A750 cool
fervent scaffold
850w modular psu to rtx 3080. A 1x2 pcie or 2 separate pcie power cables?
Came with both and not sure which to use. Im assuming 2 separate cables is safer even tho I dont think a 3080 has any sort of crazy power draw
pure garnet
Came with both and not sure which to use. Im assuming 2 separate cables is safer...
card draws 340w, if you got 2 cables i'd use them but it'll probably be fine with the pigtail
fervent scaffold
card draws 340w, if you got 2 cables i'd use them but it'll probably be fine wit...
It came with 2 1x2s and 2 1x1s so im just using the 2 separate cables
Thought i lost a psu screw. Stupid iPhone magsafe lmao
random flame
Hmmm... Been a bit since I've seen anything on hardware-level shader mods.
https://youtu.be/e97xv0BchMA?si=0JayUT01EKtQVQz8
vocal plume
Hmmm... Been a bit since I've seen anything on *hardware-level* shader mods.
htt...
I wonder how well it will work with mods like create
uneven bane
Finally got my Dell R440's into the rack. One of them is running, I'm not running the other one until the new CPUs get here Thursday but man I've never been so happy to see the grub loader.
merry stirrup
is this beatable
pure garnet
is this beatable
lmfao i do this shit too
merry stirrup
lmfao i do this shit too
40c load
uneven bane
If it works it's not stupid, but I'd be worried about condensation but yolo
pure garnet
do you have any spare quadros left with a modern driver by any chance
merry stirrup
if you want
pure garnet
how many dollan
merry stirrup
it’s a p620 so you need mini dp to hdmi
uh just uh shipping and like 10 or 15 dollar
pure garnet
why not minidp to dp
merry stirrup
that works too
pure garnet
ill hit you up friday probably
merry stirrup
gives me an excuse to send mac’s out
pure garnet
i ice souped my checking to pay off the phone early
merry stirrup
gives me an excuse to send mac’s out
and get my 480 8gb
uneven bane
Just looked at the r440s pcie documntaion 25watt power delivery eww definitely gotta make my 630 have GPU transcoding
merry stirrup
may use my newly acquired a750 for transcoding
brisk jolt
yes
uneven bane
I love my 1u servers for most things but dells power limitations on pcie slots makes me want to consider a 2u.
I kinda wanna get an arc just to try on my gaming PC I've heard their transcoding is fantastic
merry stirrup
is it too nice to blow up
i’m thinking so
pure garnet
that works too
when i returned my rift s i forgot to give back the adapter
so i just happen to have a mini dp to dp adapter
low sorrel
finially got a level 6 armor set
fervent scaffold
For $700, for my wifes first PC, pretty happy with how it came out
Still waiting on the last 4 fans in the mail but it works
burnt socket
For $700, for my wifes first PC, pretty happy with how it came out
what cooler is that
block looks like a rim
fervent scaffold
block looks like a rim
Its supposed to
We’re both into cars, so was necessary lol
patent gorge
I grew out of the "add as many fans as possible phase" at some point
fervent scaffold
I grew out of the "add as many fans as possible phase" at some point
Hey I did too, wife liked the look of it tho so thats what I got her
patent gorge
been just lazy and done 3 intake, 3 exhaust (attached to aio radiator) recently
patent gorge
Hey I did too, wife liked the look of it tho so thats what I got her
yea they're cool for aesthetics
burnt socket
Its supposed to
https://a.co/d/06WAvuYd
the delivery fee is 2/5th of the cooler 💀
patent gorge
especially if you're building for someone else
fervent scaffold
yea they're cool for aesthetics
Mine is a lot more simple
fervent scaffold
the delivery fee is 2/5th of the cooler 💀
I got free shipping 🤷♂️
burnt socket
I got free shipping 🤷♂️
international shipping
fervent scaffold
international shipping
Kinda funny considering its a Korean company as far as im aware, and Im in the US
patent gorge
doesn't really matter though since many of them keep parts in stock in US warehouses. from there free shipping makes sense
burnt socket
Kinda funny considering its a Korean company as far as im aware, and Im in the U...
it's taiwanese
fervent scaffold
I didnt order a tall enough gpu support bracket for hers by mistake, Itll be fine for now tho
fervent scaffold
doesn't really matter though since many of them keep parts in stock in US wareho...
Yeah ik but still
fervent scaffold
it's taiwanese
I wonder what im thinking of, Lian Li?
Theyre taiwanese too
I guess im all sorts of wrong
uneven bane
The difference between 9 and 7 is wow. Such a big difference comared to 7 and 8
gentle vapor
woven adder
well well well
low sorrel
The difference between 9 and 7 is wow. Such a big difference comared to 7 and 8
what about 6 and 7
ok im going to die now
brisk jolt
what about 6 and 7
low sorrel
@topaz veldt I'm going to be a good uncle and fix my niece's toy:
frank cypress
they gave me a WHOLE EXTRA FROSTY
FUCK YEAH
frank cypress
hi
low sorrel
<@257554812013379587> I'm going to be a good uncle and fix my niece's toy:
This is what I get for trying to be nice smh
frank cypress
low sorrel
https://tenor.com/view/dog-back-dog-golden-retriever-back-golden-retriever-scare...
What about 6 and 9?
frank cypress
better
going with my cousin to try the kinton ramen on gilmore tomorrow 👀
never been to that chain so i hope it's good
low sorrel
Just googled it
Reviews look good
Which I don't know if that's a bad sign or a good sign
low sorrel
Let me know if it's good
frank cypress
sure
devout tangle
i mean, i heard from a couple people i know it's alright
It's good.
frank cypress
oh nice
devout tangle
Went to the Surrey one, tastes great.
The combo is a very good value. Wish I got that.
frank cypress
oh, good to know
devout tangle
@frank cypress
livid flame
Why does it look like a massive turd in the middle of that ramen
brisk jolt
Im glad im not the only one thinking the same
devout ridge
that is definitely a fat turd in the middle
hollow flume
Ayo who talking shit on bread
topaz veldt
i dont love capitalism even though i participate in it to survive
you love yapitalism
devout ridge
went to terminate the cable for a new to me dust extractor, only to realize it's 220v and not 120v
after i had installed all the ducting for it
(there is no 220v circuits in the shop)
somber lagoon
Discord, that's not how numbers work
devout ridge
i blame your weird stretched resolution
somber lagoon
(idk why it's stretched)
Yeah, probably that
Genuine question. If I reverse engineer hardware that costs like... A lot. Is it considered piracy?
devout ridge
you can't pirate hardware, you can pirate software
once you buy the hardware, it's yours to do with as you please
lethal topaz
i think its intellectual theft when you are reproducing it for profit
devout ridge
once you buy the hardware, it's yours to do with as you please
(as supported by the US supreme court)
You can do almost anything you want for personal benefit, it's when you try to turn a profit that it's a problem
lethal topaz
so why is pirating media illegal
devout ridge
you can pirate software
lethal topaz
hmm
somber lagoon
i think its intellectual theft when you are reproducing it for profit
Alright, and if I post code, and guide on how to make your own version?
devout ridge
As an individual, it's nearly impossible to be prosecuted for software piracy
They really only ever pursue large distributors if at all
(this is not legal advice, i'm not a lawyer)
somber lagoon
(this is not legal advice, i'm not a lawyer)
I know, just asking "for a friend" ;)
lethal topaz
im gonna start trying to read all your messages in irohs voice
devout ridge
worst case is your ISP drops you if they see lots of illegal torrents on your network
You can pretty easily prevent your ISP from seeing you torrent legal Linux ISO's only, with a VPN
somber lagoon
worst case is your ISP drops you if they see lots of illegal torrents on your ne...
Eeh, that's kind of not happening in Ukraine. Simply due to the fact that nobody really cares
devout ridge
I mean when your country is at war, the minor laws matter a lot less
government is a bit preoccupied
somber lagoon
Ironically, the school I used to go got fined for pirating windows lmao
lethal topaz
thats like one of the five settings you dont want to pirate windows
somber lagoon
I mean that is potentially thousands of dollars worth of license keys
Damn, imagine paying for windows 11
lethal topaz
i will not be elaborating goodnight
devout ridge
thats like one of the five settings you dont want to pirate windows
a company should never pirate anything
If it makes you money, don't pirate it
somber lagoon
a company should never pirate anything
Well, yeah. But, it wasn't like the whole compsci which was pirating windows I think?
If I recall correctly it was like... Some teacher who got their windows installed by God knows who
So... Idk, really
Maybe it was worse than it was told to me
devout ridge
it is really easy to pirate windows nowadays
for TOS reasons i can't really elaborate on that
somber lagoon
Ooh, why not? They cost like... Not that much, at least in my fucked up economy
somber lagoon
o_o
Good luck, bud
shrewd parrot
shell void
no doubt
brisk jolt
im trying t30 fans rn hopefully they turn out good
shell void
they are infact good my friend
snow holly
im trying t30 fans rn hopefully they turn out good
May the force flow right past you
I wish you the worst
Fuck you
random flame
brisk jolt
they are infact good my friend
yeah i heard they are one of the best, the thermalright ones did well for slim fans
tad bit loud to properly get hot air out though
topaz veldt
im trying t30 fans rn hopefully they turn out good
are those the 140s?
brisk jolt
120s
topaz veldt
word
I have 2 - 3 of those laying around. I want to try the 140s
I imagine the static pressure is better than NF-A14x25 G2s
Yeeesh
brisk jolt
Sheeeeeeeesh
topaz veldt
she gets warm
its kind of crazy so - if I run default clocks and remove all limits, it runs 103-104C
if I run 56 all pcore and 50 all ecore, it runs 103-104C
brisk jolt
Is that the custom loop build?
livid flame
333w she is steaming
I see a rumour about a 700w Intel cpu. No idea on the truth of it
topaz veldt
I would love it
livid flame
Can’t remember where I saw it. Something like 52 cores
topaz veldt
well yes, though it would depend on the package size also
brisk jolt
be more like a KS chip
topaz veldt
I for one am excited for it
brisk jolt
We're going to be chilling one day and 5nail will hit us with a 700W NVL-S K U9 and a 800w/1000w vbios 5090
topaz veldt
I hope so
So I have been putting together a kind of insane BOM for a wild cooling setup
I love my self-contained O11s with dual rads, etc.
But I have been putting together a plan for a single or dual mora 600 wall mount setup that I can just plug PCs into
I just don't want a ton of pump noise and I kind of want the radiators not in ym office, but the plumbing becomes insane
sharp heart
7950x for 250€ good or no
topaz veldt
If you are after 16 cores, sure
if you are after a gaming CPU its not a great one generally
topaz veldt
what resolution do you game at
topaz veldt
1440p
ok yah 7950X is a 5.7 GHz boost on the one CCD, faster than the 7500f. Should be an upgrade for sure. Just dual-ccd stuff can get weird on some games
brisk jolt
Its gonna be 2027 on a random saturday, we’re all gonna be chilling and 5nail drops the banger of “Hey guys heres my NovaLake K running 700W, 5090 at 800w, and my CUDIMMs are at 11k, it makes for quite a good sauna”
thin steppe
what resolution do you game at
Ah I read this message without reading the prior context lol ignore my reply
shell void
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-400k-nova-lake-s-leak-claims-over-7...
oh it’s going to be so glorious
shell void
i’m assuming that’s direct die watercooled with all power limits removed in a stress test
brisk jolt
yeah no biggie for 5nail
lone scarab
snail
brisk jolt
He will come in and tell the Zen 6 950X3D or whatever the top consumer chip “Stand proud, you are strong”
wraith steeple
shell void
it’s okay senor snail has a 240v circuit in his office for his U9 495K + 6090 PC
@topaz veldt gonna need one of those 3000W PSUs soon it seems
lone scarab
bro running all appliances on psu
brisk jolt
<@257554812013379587> gonna need one of those 3000W PSUs soon it seems
He’d also need a local nuclear powerplant supplying straight into the house
livid flame
oh it’s going to be so glorious
It looks like a home server beast. Possibly a cheaper alternative to a TR?
sharp heart
5nail is gonna develop a micronation just to have it's own powerplant
shell void
you usually don’t want a heterogenous CPU in a server
but yeah it’ll be an amazing workstation CPU
frank zealot
how do you tell someone to "look at the bottom of the screen"
When they refuse to look outside of the window they're in
arctic bronze
frank zealot
He’d also need a local nuclear powerplant supplying straight into the house
Mark's got a 240v circuit dedicated to his office
shell void
@merry stirrup @pure garnet @steel stream WE yes WE need it
hoary hatch
<@369668313208324100> <@438101365416263681> <@246739332252041216> WE yes WE need...
700‽
fervent scaffold
Almost just slapped the power button and yanked the usb in the middle of a bios update because I thought it was done lol
frank cypress
<@723752118724329472>
oh yes ill get one of those
devout tangle
oh yes ill get one of those
Ya, buddy got it, looked decent.
shell void
you honestly need more than that if you want to be “future proof” for future high end parts
power density is only going to get crazier
turbid locust
I thought 1600 was like the cap for NA
cosmic gazelle
who's going to invent a 400 watt cpu cooler man
shell void
for 120v 15a yeh but there’s no reason you can’t use a 240v circuit for your pc in america
shell void
who's going to invent a 400 watt cpu cooler man
a $30 peerless assassin will handle it without issue
cosmic gazelle
i agree
brisk jolt
phantom spirit slam dunk
livid flame
a $30 peerless assassin will handle it without issue
All core work load it’s gonna struggle
shell void
prob no issue at all with the default ~450W PL2
cosmic gazelle
i personally run my 14900k with unlocked power limit on a hyper 212, sits at like 65c
in cinebench
shell void
wattage handling with coolers isn’t comparable between CPUs
der8auer ran a xeon up to 750W with a single tower noctua cooler
a phantom spirit royal knight assassin freezer killer ultra max or whatever will handle nova lake fine
i need it
brisk jolt
holy optimalism
wraith steeple
a phantom spirit royal knight assassin freezer killer ultra max or whatever will...
I even have my 285K on air with default settings 
livid flame
What you need is one of those Chinese PSUs smacked together to give like 3kw. But then you got some work to do to get it safe and probably only 2kw
brisk jolt
i have a 265k on air PL to like 160w
cosmic gazelle
isn't core ultra known to run a bit cooler
if they continue that trend then we'll be fine but 400 watts sounds like a lot
brisk jolt
core ultra is hella easy to cool
shell void
yeh intel chiplets are larger and there are more cores so the heat density is lesser
cosmic gazelle
also noctua is somehow still getting away with selling chromax nhd15s for 200 bucks
20 year old cooler design or something lmao
shell void
450W across two compute tiles will be easy to cool
cosmic gazelle
if it ain't broke i suppose
wraith steeple
I have the OG G2 in mine. Also it's in a solid Panel Torrent 
cosmic gazelle
it's a wonderful cooler don't get me wrong, it just has always seemed kinda overpriced because they know no one's gonna make a better air cooler any time soon lmao
brisk jolt
low profile cooler on 265k works pretty well icl
livid flame
also noctua is somehow still getting away with selling chromax nhd15s for 200 bu...
Idiots buy so they supply
wraith steeple
I don't disagree
frank cypress
Idiots buy so they supply
I bought mine when there was no pa120 yet 😢
can I get a pass
cosmic gazelle
oh also on low settings with medium textures and taa medium i'm gettin like 40-50fps on rdr2 on that quadro p1000
glorious gaming in bed system
she gettin a little hot but the last time i removed a gpu from that specific system i had to reinstall windows to fix the networking problem it caused so i will not be doing that
pure garnet
the people buying noctua coolers want more than the $30 cooler offers and the people buying $30 coolers don’t care for what noctua’s offering
cosmic gazelle
class of 2020: we didn't get a prom
frank cypress
ngl I still think the novalake 52c cpu is gonna be iffy, not even cause of the cpu itself but rather
hoary hatch
Scheduler?
frank cypress
microslop windows is gonna fucking explode when it sees 52c and 3 core types
frank cypress
Scheduler?
yeah
livid flame
the people buying noctua coolers want more than the $30 cooler offers and the pe...
With Noctua you pay for a $30 cooler, but you give them an extra $100 for their R&D
hoary hatch
microslop windows is gonna fucking explode when it sees 52c and 3 core types
We already have 3 core types for a while
frank cypress
We already have 3 core types for a while
we have?
wise bear
eeeee
wise bear
mornin
pure garnet
With Noctua you pay for a $30 cooler, but you give them an extra $100 for their ...
and i’ll gladly pay that so my ears don’t hurt using my pc
hoary hatch
Beginning with meteor lake, arrow lake mobile
But also, wouldn't alder lake effectively be 3 core types? P, P-HT, E
frank cypress
With Noctua you pay for a $30 cooler, but you give them an extra $100 for their ...
womp womp premium option expensive
pure garnet
noise normalized to jackhammer decibel range testing also doesn’t show that the fans just sound better
frank cypress
Beginning with meteor lake, arrow lake mobile
But also, wouldn't alder lake ef...
wait, did alderlake have p cores without ht?
I wasnt even aware of that
pure garnet
alder-raptor had ht
arrow lake is the first time we’re down to just p + e on desktop
hoary hatch
wait, did alderlake have p cores without ht?
No no, but doesn't windows treat the second thread differently
frank cypress
noise normalized to jackhammer decibel range testing also doesn’t show that the ...
yeah I dont think noctua fans are honestly that much quieter, but sound a lot nicer
hoary hatch
Maybe I'm imagining something, but we've had 3 levels of actual hardware cores for a few years
shell void
microslop windows is gonna fucking explode when it sees 52c and 3 core types
24 core zen 6x3d will also be a scheduling nightmare
hoary hatch
Meteor lake is also interesting
frank cypress
No no, but doesn't windows treat the second thread differently
oooo
frank cypress
24 core zen 6x3d will also be a scheduling nightmare
yeah I guess so
hoary hatch
P core actual
P core 2nd thread
E core
LPE core
cosmic gazelle
24 core zen 6x3d will also be a scheduling nightmare
clearly what you're saying is that the 5775c will be the optimal gaming device
frank cypress
P core actual
P core 2nd thread
E core
LPE core
edgy laurel
frank cypress
No no, but doesn't windows treat the second thread differently
I didnt respond to this cause I have no idea
shell void
the optimal gaming cpu will be a single z6x3d ccd or nvl tile with big cache, and the low power cores in the SOC disabled
frank cypress
sounds entirely plausible
livid flame
womp womp premium option expensive
For $100 or more extra than a phantom spirit… it’s really not that much quieter
cosmic gazelle
he didn't really argue it was quieter he more so argued the frequency curve was more pleasant
frank cypress
^^
frank cypress
man I still despise my p12 maxes
shell void
“i pick noctua because i prefer the noise profile of their fans” 🤓
“i pick noctua because the beige fans look cool, and i like the hand feel of the premium heatsink” 
cosmic gazelle
yeah man that’s how i run my cooler for sure
yeah who would run their cpu fan at 100% because they misconfigured the airflow in their case and it was the only way to get good temperatures
livid flame
According to tech power up - it’s throttled on an AM5 225w work load and a phantom spirit isn’t. Imagine paying $150 more for a worse performing cooler
pure garnet
yeah who would run their cpu fan at 100% because they misconfigured the airflow ...
static 100% fan is truly meta
brisk jolt
yeah who would run their cpu fan at 100% because they misconfigured the airflow ...
thou has underestimated me
livid flame
yeah man that’s how i run my cooler for sure
50% PWM it’s really poor performing. I used the most favourable result for the DH15
frank cypress
idk, the d15 is literally fine
livid flame
Tech power up review shows it performs worse than a $30 cooler. Not saying it’s not good, just it’s dumb to pay for it when there’s better out there that are way cheaper
frank cypress
my d15s did 253w with ease so
I remember mine sustaining 280w on my 13900ks
cosmic gazelle
i've never really heard of someone having issues with a d15 and i'm the one who brought up it being expensive
pure garnet
thermal right is great for penny pinching buyers
but i’ll gladly pay more for a system that isn’t miserable to listen to
livid flame
It performs better on LGA1700. On AM5 it’s pretty poor
cosmic gazelle
thermal right is also an excellent power supply manufacturer if you live in a cold room because it will help your heating bill by lighting your desk on fire
pure garnet
true true
hoary hatch
but i’ll gladly pay more for a system that isn’t miserable to listen to
Thermalright heatsink with real fans perhaps?
pure garnet
Thermalright heatsink with real fans perhaps?
why would i do that when i could just order one thing instead of 2
hoary hatch
thermal right is also an excellent power supply manufacturer if you live in a co...
Thermaltake*
livid flame
It’s still well beaten by Thermalright though, even in Intel
pure garnet
the thermal right mounting system is also usually the cheapest feeling thing i touch in system
cosmic gazelle
Thermaltake*
yeah thermal something
pure garnet
well beaten
frank cypress
It’s still well beaten by Thermalright though, even in Intel
ngl for me, 5c difference is kinda whatever
hoary hatch
well beaten
Damn noctua didn't even score 90%
pure garnet
or are you comparing the like decade+ old design
frank cypress
just as a layman consumer
slim pebble
I found it
700 watt nova lake, looks like I’m buying a new PSU boys!
livid flame
well beaten
The G2 isn’t the DH.
shell void
my d15s did 253w with ease so
same i wasn’t even close to tjmax on my 14900k at 253W with an OG D15 spinning at 800rpm
hoary hatch
700 watt nova lake, looks like I’m buying a new PSU boys!
AX1600i
shell void
it could sustain 320W no problem
shell void
there are loads of them on ebay
hoary hatch
I checked like a month ago and there was still stock
slim pebble
Are you sure
Not new anyways, you could get one on the used or refurb market maybe
livid flame
But yeah, buying noctua in 2026 is just nostalgia. They’re not better for the money at all
hoary hatch
Not new anyways, you could get one on the used or refurb market maybe
I think they finally ran out not too long ago
pure garnet
nobody every said they were the reddit value buy
frank cypress
But yeah, buying noctua in 2026 is just nostalgia. They’re not better for the mo...
I dont think anyone here is arguing for noctua on the basis of performance per dollar
cosmic gazelle
from what i've seen the nh-l9 series is easily better than any competition for sff builds. so there are definitely use cases
frank cypress
if we're talking value, people here value the sound profile of the noctua fans
its a different type of value mate
pure garnet
but the cost of an air cooler is inconsequential so i’ll buy the one that’s appealing over the cheap one
livid flame
from what i've seen the nh-l9 series is easily better than any competition for s...
It’s either that or the ID equivalent that performs about the same
pure garnet
i’m sure the 9800x3d + 5090 buyer can swing an extra hundred bucks in their system
frank cypress
tbh, I feel like i said this before but
brisk jolt
C5 CU king for intel for LP no cyap
frank cypress
people in this hobby have a very wrong??? idea about what value is
slim pebble
This is a good one if you haven’t seen it yet.
TLDR; They added new DDR5 refresh modes on AM5.
slim pebble
For the memory OC nerds
cosmic gazelle
i’m sure the 9800x3d + 5090 buyer can swing an extra hundred bucks in their syst...
lmao this might be a bad take but i don't understand why someone buying a 4 THOUSAND DOLLAR GPU wouldn't just soft line their entire system at that point
livid flame
Well no. Value isn’t subjective cost/performance. Thats pretty stone wall.
livid flame
lmao this might be a bad take but i don't understand why someone buying a 4 THOU...
Ask 5mall. He has multiple
pure garnet
lmao this might be a bad take but i don't understand why someone buying a 4 THOU...
because that’s even more money and not a set and forget solution
frank cypress
Well no. Value isn’t subjective cost/performance. Thats pretty stone wall.
value refers to more than just price to performance
pure garnet
you also failed his point entirely 😭
cosmic gazelle
because that’s even more money and not a set and forget solution
yeah also i would assume installing a custom water block probably voids warranty? so probably that? idk
brisk jolt
lmao this might be a bad take but i don't understand why someone buying a 4 THOU...
we have massive balls bro we out here vibing with sf750s with 5090s
pure garnet
the person buying the thermal right cooler values the price
the person buying the noctua cooler values different things
cosmic gazelle
we have massive balls bro we out here vibing with sf750s with 5090s
bro is running a 5090 with a n100 to stay under the power budget
pure garnet
noise, warranty, premium brand or whatever
frank cypress
the person buying the thermal right cooler values the price
everyone should be eating instant noodles 24 hours a day cause its price to calorie efficient
👍
marsh apex
everyone should be eating instant noodles 24 hours a day cause its price to calo...
true
pure garnet
the p12 pros on a chart are supposedly better than my a12x25s but a 5 second test with my ears tells me i don’t regret buying the other fans
cosmic gazelle
wonder what the reliability of this brand is, i've never seen one reviewed
frank cypress
the p12 pros on a chart are supposedly better than my a12x25s but a 5 second tes...
I have the max rather than the pros and they're fucking awful
I mean, great performance for the price
awful sound
edgy laurel
wonder what the reliability of this brand is, i've never seen one reviewed
some random, unknown brand
frank cypress
wonder what the reliability of this brand is, i've never seen one reviewed
superflower was the oem for evga iirc
oh that was sarcasm
pure garnet
I have the max rather than the pros and they're fucking awful
all of my artics got banished to the oc system where they run a static 100% rpm for runs
cosmic gazelle
i don't think the highest wattage psu on pcpp is an unknown brand lol i just haven't seen someone review a super flower is all
hoary hatch
the p12 pros on a chart are supposedly better than my a12x25s but a 5 second tes...
I'm running them like 800rpm and they seem fine
pure garnet
just sounds like a server rack
edgy laurel
oh that was sarcasm
i was being sarcastic, I don't think they were lol
hoary hatch
They get pretty loud above 1000rpm
pure garnet
I'm running them like 800rpm and they seem fine
i tried down to like 20% signal and they still had an obnoxious hum compared to my a12s
hoary hatch
Louder than my Corsair fans at > 1k rpm I think
shell void
i have to make my room totally silent and get on the floor next to my pc in order to hear my p12 pros
topaz veldt
P12s are an unfortunate thing
edgy laurel
I only knew something was wrong because I heard my fans at all this weekend
cosmic gazelle
guys do you think the acoustics of these fans are gonna be good
topaz veldt
I only knew something was wrong because I heard my fans at all this weekend
what happen
shell void
i have to make my room totally silent and get on the floor next to my pc in orde...
if they’re working anyway, i have one that is dying that i’m too lazy to replace atm
pure garnet
guys do you think the acoustics of these fans are gonna be good
high performer for sure
marsh apex
😭
cosmic gazelle
to be fair a pc someone like that is buying would normally already have windows
edgy laurel
what happen
on two occasions I happened to look at my postcode readout after noticing I could hear my fans and saw 87c. One time I was gaming but the other time just sitting at the desktop. Two cores were not pegged in usage but the temp was over 85c and the rest were fine. The first time I was just a little freaked so I rebooted and all was well. The second time I noticed Discord sitting at a constant 9-10% usage so I killed its proccess and things dropped down to normal.
topaz veldt
on two occasions I happened to look at my postcode readout after noticing I coul...
oh weird
was the 87c static? Sometimes I see that and assume the system crashed
edgy laurel
it seemed to be the first time, but once I closed the game it dropped to 85c so it i guess not
marsh apex
to be fair a pc someone like that is buying would normally already have windows
im guessing they bought the parts and paid someone to build it or something
edgy laurel
it was really only affecting two cores, 0 and 1
marsh apex
instead of buying a prebuilt
topaz veldt
it seemed to be the first time, but once I closed the game it dropped to 85c so ...
every now and then i leave one of these PCs on and they are table top so I see the q-code obviously and I see like "32...." forever... and I am like ffs its hung up
edgy laurel
the second occurance I was able to link it to Discord
it was really strange because it wasn't like the cores were pegged out in task manager or even really sucking back power on their own, just the temp was redlining
very weird. step 1 on the road to a reinstall
strange ginkgo
taskmanager got kinda wierd and unreliable
edgy laurel
I was primarily looking at per-core stats in hwinfo for both usage, power and temp
0 and 1 were doing some weird shit
MBAM scan didn't trigger anything alarming
and killing discord immediately fixed it so.. we just wait
https://ayaneo.com/product/AYANEO-NEXT-Ⅱ
She's CHONKY
size of the buttons and thumbsticks should help with scale
fervent chasm
i moved all of my parts over I can finally start seeing if I can get anything over 5400 stable with the 4 dimms
brisk jolt
yeah stuffing the 8060S chip in there needs it to be beefy
fervent chasm
yeah stuffing the 8060S chip in there needs it to be beefy
and hot
fervent scaffold
I cannot figure out this argb
shell void
yesss put the massive power hungry halo APU in a gaming handheld even though it makes no sense
fervent chasm
what does high refresh mean
shell void
gimme a panther lake handheld with a 116WH battery, that would be sick
fervent chasm
60Hz is high
most movies are shot in 24fps and nobody seems to mind so to me 60Hz is high refresh
shell void
looks like a nice display
fervent chasm
looks like a nice display
ooo 165 thats not bad then
im still worried about the heat
fervent scaffold
This rog strix Z370 e gaming has 1 argb header and 2 rgb headers, and the argb header is not showing in their software
shell void
this looks like a great handheld platform, but 16 core strix halo makes no sense in a gaming handheld
fervent chasm
this looks like a great handheld platform, but 16 core strix halo makes no sense...
isnt the iGPU for next gen intel mobile really fast and efficient compared to the strix halo
would be better to just wait
shell void
yeh panther lake is the king of efficient x86 mobile apus
vestal granite
most movies are shot in 24fps and nobody seems to mind so to me 60Hz is high ref...
yuck
brisk jolt
this looks like a great handheld platform, but 16 core strix halo makes no sense...
anything but being put in useful situations
shell void
i cant think of a useful situation for strix halo quite honestly XD
fervent chasm
i cant think of a useful situation for strix halo quite honestly XD
sff thats literally it
a lot of power in a tiny space
vestal granite
anything that takes user input should be minimum 60hz so you get that minimum 16ms latency on each input
shell void
it's not good for most productivity tasks because it's radeon, and it's not as good as it should be for gaming because amd refuses to backport FSR4 to RDNA3.5
it exists in a weird limbo where some ai bros who dont mind radeon buy the 128GB mini PCs
fervent chasm
and you pay a premuim for it
shell void
i suppose another niche for it would be a linux laptop
so linux laptops, and 128GB mini PCs
that's all it can really do
fervent chasm
basically all of them are sold with windows lol
brisk jolt
amd’s shortcomings really show on strix halo
fervent chasm
lets hope intels new iGPUs can scale
brisk jolt
cool and all but its just not it
shell void
it's cool hardware but lacks the software support that it needs to be useful
fervent chasm
is intel still on the downside after this then? iirc a lot of people were saying AMD was pulling ahead in the past
pure garnet
i cant think of a useful situation for strix halo quite honestly XD
taking money from suckers
brisk jolt
i assume b390 puts up a decent fight till 30w
fervent chasm
taking money from suckers
hey, sometimes a deal is a deal, ive seen the 128gb 2tb models sell for just $1k on auction
i wouldve gladly used that with a portable dipsplay instead of a laptop
tho no battery
hm i take it back theres no use case youre right
shell void
i assume b390 puts up a decent fight till 30w
B390 is equal or better at the power levels that it's actually designed for
strix halo sucks when you throttle it down to less than 45W
it's a huge 256bit igpu it's not made for those low power levels
brisk jolt
B390 is equal or better at the power levels that it's actually designed for
not to mention it has a better upscaler than fuckass FSR 3 as well as it having MFG
fervent chasm
b390 has mfg?
shell void
steel stream
<@369668313208324100> <@438101365416263681> <@246739332252041216> WE yes WE need...
dude so hype
fervent chasm
my 4090 doesnt even have mfg
shell void
panther lake is designed for 25W and less, in that region it outperforms strix halo
while having better upscaling and framegen like setsuna said
strix halo is meant for 45-120W
brisk jolt
dude you cant even pay me to be using FSR 3 or 3.1
cosmic gazelle
they sellin the pc wit no pc 😭😭😭
fervent chasm
are we gonna get to a point where games get so computationally heavy that even mfg wont help because the base frames are so low?
shell void
b390 has mfg?
yeah intel's mfg also works on their first gen arc alchemist cards xD
not officially yet, but people modded it to work
steel stream
not officially yet, but people modded it to work
should be out next month iirc
brisk jolt
meanwhile AMD cant officially backport FSR4 to RDNA 3 nor 3.5 XDDDDDDDD
fervent chasm
yeah intel's mfg also works on their first gen arc alchemist cards xD
at least intel cares about their older cards
pure garnet
radeon has been a failure for like a decade
fervent chasm
im starting to think my pc just turned off and not that it was memory training
shell void
i assume b390 puts up a decent fight till 30w
youre pretty much dead on accurate
fervent chasm
its been like 15 minutes
shell void
strix halo starts to pull ahead at 35W+
brisk jolt
I dont like when a handheld-ish device is big and heavy
shell void
im starting to think my pc just turned off and not that it was memory training
yeah man your pc is not training for 15 minutes it's not HEDT xD
brisk jolt
yeah big stuff benefits but it’d lowk be a little troublesome to just carry
shell void
even with four dual rank dimms am5 wont take more than a couple of minutes
fervent chasm
yeah man your pc is not training for 15 minutes it's not HEDT xD
i think i might shut down from bios not restarted
i didnt think that was possible
shell void
yeah big stuff benefits but it’d lowk be a little troublesome to just carry
IMO it defeats the entire point of a handheld
if you want more than 25W just get a thin laptop
fervent chasm
I dont like when a handheld-ish device is big and heavy
you need those exoskeleton suits
brisk jolt
could justify either a laptop or a really small ITX pc at like 4L
fervent chasm
yeah man your pc is not training for 15 minutes it's not HEDT xD
it took quite a while back when i first tried to oc it, definitely close to 7 minutes
the new build is supposed to have a better IMC
brisk jolt
our definition of OC does not count EXPO/XMP profiles at a simple 6000 btw
pure garnet
our definition of OC does not count EXPO/XMP profiles at a simple 6000 btw
on 4 sticks 6000 is def an oc
fervent chasm
its not simple because you cant reach it by just enabling expo/xmp lol
ah it had a boot failure, im glad this board actually recognizes it and i dont have to clear cmos
brisk jolt
on 4 sticks 6000 is def an oc
4 dimmers when they ramp up vsoc from 1.2 volts to 1.3 volts just to boot to windows:
(ive never dealt with full 4 dimms)
turbid locust
Realistically any board worth a fuck is posting 6000 on 4 sticks
fervent chasm
it was running stable 5600 a few months back when floppa was helping me but that was on 13th gen with a shitty board
shell void
4x16gb and 4x24gb are really easy on am5, but theres no point in running those configs
fervent chasm
Realistically any board worth a fuck is posting 6000 on 4 sticks
oh yah it would post but fail memory tests even on my shitty board
shell void
with four dual rank dimms it does require a big bump to VSOC which cuts out shitty bin cpus
turbid locust
2dpc shouldn’t exist when we have 2x48gb kits 
fervent chasm
i got 4x48 lol
shell void
there are 128GB cudimms ready to release but the memory price hikes killed them before launch xD
fervent chasm
if NWR fixes my 2x64 kit I will sell the 4x48 happily
shell void
couldve ran 2x128gb
frank cypress
4x16gb and 4x24gb are really easy on am5, but theres no point in running those c...
arguably sensible in the current market
fervent chasm
he wants $50 to attempt the fix and $150 for fixing it
frank cypress
if u need more ram but cant really secure a 64gb or 96gb kit for a decent price
brisk jolt
I considered a 2x32gb CUDIMM instead of the H24M I got but….. its micron and it was bumfuck expensive for 64
cosmic gazelle
i love finding what i think is some super obscure new gpu and rghd has had a video about it for like a year
humbling
fervent chasm
wow wont even post 5600 on the new build
frank cypress
obviously unideal but you do what you must at this time
pure garnet
you probably need to mess with sa voltage
cosmic gazelle
can't you do like 9 billion on core ultra
pure garnet
my 265k wouldn't post 8600 on my z890 master but posted 9133 in my ocf
fervent chasm
we were all over the bios when it ran 5600 stable
i think i had to use an excel sheet
pure garnet
the master was quite the pretty board ngl
brisk jolt
@shell void i am VERY anticipating a B370/B390 handheld
pure garnet
very sad that it has curse of 4 dimm slots
brisk jolt
very sad that it has curse of 4 dimm slots
the woes of an atx board
cosmic gazelle
i don't understand i thought the 4 dimm thing was just amd because of infinity fabric
fervent chasm
does 4 dimms on a board make a difference if you dont use the other 2 compared to just 2?
wraith steeple
Contemplating on UV Cathodes or not
fervent chasm
now I have a 13900kf with 64gb that I need to do something with
cosmic gazelle
now I have a 13900kf with 64gb that I need to do something with
basically useless because it's going to inevitably blow up, ship it to me and i will safely dispose
fervent chasm
I guess I could give it to my gf but the build is getting lopsided
pure garnet
i don't understand i thought the 4 dimm thing was just amd because of infinity f...
fabric has nothing to do with it
fervent chasm
gonna be 13900kf paired with a 3070ti
pure garnet
4 dimms has worse signal integrity
cosmic gazelle
isn't amd with 4 still way worse than intel with 4 tho
pure garnet
you can run 8000 xmp no problem on that board with 2 sticks it just can't do what the ocf i have can
that's more just because the amd controller sucks
cosmic gazelle
lol
shell void
<@609826649197772821> i am VERY anticipating a B370/B390 handheld <:pepoJuice:67...
it’s great
it spanks amd
if only windows wasn’t a shit handheld OS 😿
fervent chasm
oh right they were tested recently by influencers?
or am i thinking of something else
shell void
yeh full reviews for panther lake have been out for a couple of weeks
cosmic gazelle
if only windows wasn’t a shit handheld OS 😿
simple solution, just use windows 8
:)
fervent chasm
does steam still support it?
wraith steeple
Contemplating on UV Cathodes or not<a:pepenote:1300089094130634792>
Or perhaps maybe go with waveform 395nm
fervent chasm
i think windows 7 isnt supported anymore right?
cosmic gazelle
idk you can still technically get steam to launch on 7 if you try hard enough
fervent chasm
idk you can still technically get steam to launch on 7 if you try hard enough
i remember trying in a vm lol
wraith steeple
i think windows 7 isnt supported anymore right?
Yep has been for almost 6-7 years at this point
brisk jolt
it’s great
jesus it makes the Z2E eat its dust
cosmic gazelle
you just have to swap out some dlls or something from what i remember
fervent chasm
Yep has been for almost 6-7 years at this point
shell void
simple solution, just use windows 8
it’s sad that microsoft tried to make versions of windows that were good on handhelds and dual display laptops, but people flamed them for it because it was several years too early
but now everyone loves handhelds and dual display laptops
and microsoft has to start over
fervent chasm
for a tablet windows isnt that bad
my laptop is a 2 in 1 and if it wasnt so chunky when folded together i think id enjoy it
shell void
windows 8 was made for touchscreens, and windows 10x was made for laptops like the asus zenbook duo
brisk jolt
it’s sad that microsoft tried to make versions of windows that were good on hand...
y’know it wasnt popular when even one of my class’s modules had a part shitting on it 
shell void
i used 8.1 on my main pc for a few years and don’t remember having any significant issues
leaden dawn
Microsoft surface
fervent chasm
welp now it doesnt want to post at all
so much for the post failure recognition feature
shell void
what the heck
fervent chasm
how is it that the board support 4x64 officially on some of the kits but not any 4x48
lethal topaz
windows phone
fervent chasm
ive never heard of a front hdmi port on a board, is that for aio screens?
edgy laurel
yes
well, for add in screens in general
like those put inside cases for stat monitoring
steel stream
cuz its not posting at all anymore
pure garnet
whoever decided that i need to work on a poorly provisioned vm from a poorly provisioned vm should not be making educational tools
merry stirrup
core ultra is hella easy to cool
not really
it was definitely hotter than my 13900K even stock so idk
would imagine the real numbers being similar
fringe vigil
chip
steel stream
very true
tame yacht
merry stirrup
what is the 5800x3d possibly doing down there
merry stirrup
what is the 5800x3d possibly doing down there
this is prime “i dont have a good computer or allocate my budget properly” meme
cosmic gazelle
and microsoft has to start over
like they even give a shit about windows anymore lmao
fervent chasm
@merry stirrup wanna help me get this running like 5400 stable
merry stirrup
not particularly
fervent chasm
steel stream
this is prime “i dont have a good computer or allocate my budget properly” meme
"i am jealous of what others have"
cyan canopy
Can't even send the poor guy a message telling about him spamming scam
fervent chasm
I can’t even post 5400, I’ve forgotten everything I used to know about memory OC
do I want XMP enabled if I manually set 5400?
merry stirrup
I can’t even post 5400, I’ve forgotten everything I used to know about memory OC
should’ve made profiles
cosmic gazelle
also why would someone in the top category care about copilot, nobody cares about copilot
merry stirrup
do I want XMP enabled if I manually set 5400?
most boards it won’t make a difference if you’re applying manual timings anyways
some boards really like it on or the opposite
pure garnet
merry stirrup
just fafo
fervent chasm
I just don’t wanna blow up the ram
cosmic gazelle
I just don’t wanna blow up the ram
1.8 volts immediately
merry stirrup
i have put 2 volts into my hynix memory
fervent chasm
I’m pretty sure I have to mess with voltages for this so
merry stirrup
i have put 2 volts into my hynix memory
.
pure garnet
my sister is using ram i sent 1.65v into
my bench system's daily config is 1.65v too
fervent chasm
Hold on, how does memory training work if I enabled XMP and set the MT/s to auto, will it test everything up to that XMP profile? Or only that profile
fervent chasm
it’s going to train that profile until it seems it working
Ok but if it for example can’t do the 6800, will it go down until it can?
merry stirrup
no lol
fervent chasm
Ok, so disabling XMP and setting speed to auto it will choose the fastest?
merry stirrup
the board or cpu or memory sticks themselves have no idea what the factor causing the no boot is
merry stirrup
Ok, so disabling XMP and setting speed to auto it will choose the fastest?
i still don’t know what you’re trying to say to me
fervent chasm
Cuz sometimes with XMP off it posts 4400, 5400, 5600
I don’t know what’s choosing the speed
fervent chasm
Yah I am too
merry stirrup
if you have the dram frequency set to auto then the board is picking the speed
pure garnet
(which is xmp when it's enabled)
merry stirrup
if you don’t have it set to auto then it’s not freaking auto
fervent chasm
Right its set to auto but why is the auto so different sometimes
merry stirrup
because safeboot
cosmic gazelle
you should just run jedec
merry stirrup
i agree
pure garnet
if you have a use for the ram yeah
cosmic gazelle
it’s faster because it sounds cool
merry stirrup
there’s no scenario where one needs speed and capacity
pure garnet
if not take 2 sticks out and rock xmp
merry stirrup
there’s no scenario where one needs speed and capacity
sorry not sorry
4800 is plenty fast for any scenario requiring 128gb ram
merry stirrup
then you should do it yourself without getting hand held because it’s not your own goal
fervent chasm
I’m not getting hand held I was asking a question, you helped me before
merry stirrup
i was saying about helping you now to do it again
patent gorge
4800 is plenty fast for any scenario requiring 128gb ram
the scenario is that you use your PC for multiple things 🤔
fervent chasm
I wasn’t asking you to set timings for me just wanted to know if there’s settings you’d start at for everything and go from there
fringe vigil
timed out in a server asking about piracy that does piracy, hilarious
cosmic gazelle
if you have 192gb of ram these days you can afford multiple single purpose pcs
merry stirrup
the scenario is that you use your PC for multiple things 🤔
then you probably don’t really care for how fast it is because you’re a reasonable person. 4800 to 6000 is a meaningless speed increase for most people
cosmic gazelle
if you have 192gb of ram these days you can afford multiple single purpose pcs
(i’m rage baiting don’t kill me)
fervent chasm
if you have 192gb of ram these days you can afford multiple single purpose pcs
I bought it before the jump
merry stirrup
if you require X capacity and can’t give it up for speed then you clearly have your choice
most things requiring density are already plenty fast on existing jedec speeds
fervent chasm
What no I can give up the speed I just wanted to see how far I can push above JEDEC safely
merry stirrup
What no I can give up the speed I just wanted to see how far I can push above JE...
not you
patent gorge
or... hear me out... you use your PC for multiple things, not just the thing that requires a lot of capacity
merry stirrup
and hear me out. it will be fine on the high capacity config.
cosmic gazelle
or... hear me out... you use your PC for multiple things, not just the thing tha...
nah that isn’t real
pure garnet
dude if you're buying 4 dual rank sticks of memory you cannot expect to be running xmp gaming speeds 😭
merry stirrup
and hear me out. it will be fine on the high capacity config.
even gaming. i already explained it
fervent chasm
yah 4800 is fine but I just wanted to see if it could hit 6k since I’ve seen videos of someone doing it on AM5
patent gorge
dude if you're buying 4 dual rank sticks of memory you cannot expect to be runni...
true, I just mean that it makes sense to find the best config you can run it at
cosmic gazelle
yah 4800 is fine but I just wanted to see if it could hit 6k since I’ve seen vid...
someone has hit 6k on 192gb on am5?
pure garnet
no if you actually need that much ram you should be running ecc and not touching overclocking at all
since if you actually need the ram you need the capacity to be reliable
merry stirrup
true, I just mean that it makes sense to find the best config you *can* run it a...
yes it does but this is also months of work and people who do this generally don’t do anything but this on their computer
merry stirrup
since if you actually need the ram you need the capacity to be reliable
i mean if you’re running ecc imo go crazy with oc who cares lol
fervent chasm
someone has hit 6k on 192gb on am5?
pure garnet
overclocking a udimm is just low stakes gambling after stress tests
patent gorge
no if you actually need that much ram you should be running ecc and not touching...
you're still not getting that even if you need that much ram for thing A, you might want it to be fast for thing B
fringe vigil
bro i got banned from an emu server asking about emulation...
merry stirrup
i watched seby do w9 oc with ecc and it was funny
merry stirrup
you're still not getting that even if you need that much ram for thing A, you mi...
there’s no scenario where this applies
cosmic gazelle
no if you actually need that much ram you should be running ecc and not touching...
i don’t buy registered dimms because the 2nd amendment says i have the right to bear rams
merry stirrup
4800 jedec is more than enough for gaming
cosmic gazelle
i don’t buy registered dimms because the 2nd amendment says i have the right to ...
or something like that
merry stirrup
4800 jedec is more than enough for gaming
this is my overall point
pure garnet
who is gaming on a production system
merry stirrup
there is no slow ddr5 config realistically
patent gorge
who is gaming on a production system
wdym "production system"
merry stirrup
there is slower
cosmic gazelle
who is gaming on a production system
9995wx owners probably
merry stirrup
if you own that chip i hope you can buy more than 1 computer
your ram is not what holds you back in that scenario
it’s the cpu itself
pure garnet
week 1: 9995wx, week 2-900: ice soup
cosmic gazelle
i mean it’s still pretty baller for gaming