tech-chat-2

[hoary hatch]

Not judging, just asking

[steel stream]

high on liquid helium fumes i think

[topaz veldt]

Nice!

[pure garnet]

i got blocked by somebody last night for suggesting they buy a 5070ti over a 4080 super

[cosmic gazelle]

no i’m just going through withdrawals because i don’t have disposable income to spend on stupid ewaste

at this exact moment

[pure garnet]

just hit up a goodwill fr

[cosmic gazelle]

nah i don’t even got goodwill money

[steel stream]

whaattttttt

[merry stirrup]

picking up this here soon

[cosmic gazelle]

girlfriend wants a “ring” apparently… like what is this lady trippin about

[hoary hatch]

Redditor mentality smh

[turbid locust]

fire

[cosmic gazelle]

is this haswell

[merry stirrup]

no ivy broidge

[pure garnet]

oh yeah here's some value

[merry stirrup]

comes with a 3770K and some ram

beautiful ram

[fervent chasm]

dedodaded wam

[steel stream]

kyoko who was it

[cosmic gazelle]

i’ve bought a couple things from here, a laptop that was a great deal and an AIO pc that I ruined the digitizer on during disassembly and that is now sitting in my garage broken

[cosmic gazelle]

you gonna try your hand at ddr3 oc or what

[merry stirrup]

very excited to get this actually

[merry stirrup]

yeah i ihave like 16 sticks of moderately competitive stuff to bin

[pure garnet]

if you search reader rabbit the convo starts about there

[cosmic gazelle]

realistically wouldn’t the 3770k be the limiting factor here

[merry stirrup]

not my problem

[cosmic gazelle]

wouldn’t you need a 4790k

[dusky ginkgo]

are microcenter bundles still worth it? which one should i get?

[merry stirrup]

experience is exxperience

[cosmic gazelle]

yes, whichever one fits your use case

[merry stirrup]

that whole combo above is 40$

[cosmic gazelle]

that’s a fantastic deal wtf

dude is scamming himself

[merry stirrup]

its good but its not amazing

board goes for like 60$, you can get 3770k's for basically free, the ram and such makes it any worth while

[cosmic gazelle]

16gb ddr3 still gets 15-17 by itself on ebay and a nice high end motherboard would get 30-40

[merry stirrup]

i dont buy to resell

[pure garnet]

goodwill auctions cooking up some fine ewaste

[merry stirrup]

i just buy

[cosmic gazelle]

i know but i’m saying it’s a good deal because it’s much cheaper than buying them separately

[dusky ginkgo]

should i upgrade? i have a 12700k, 48gb ddr4 3200, and 4080S

[merry stirrup]

wouldnt even pay 100$ for that

shit and oud have to pay shipping cause its goodwill

[cosmic gazelle]

i got a dell latitude with a 3rd gen i5 for $25 after shipping, and it showed up looking basically unused and working perfectly

[pure garnet]

i wouldn't

[dusky ginkgo]

ok. ima not. money isnt easy rn

[indigo walrus]

Not exactly eWaste to the right buyer... 10th gen Intel is still plenty fine (at the right price) for basic home use, or even light office work.

[cosmic gazelle]

cpu might be holding you back with a 4080 super but it depends on what you want

[merry stirrup]

i think this might be bdie and for 10$ cmon

[cosmic gazelle]

but like if money isn’t easy then keep what you have

computer components are a luxury that come after you pay for things that matter lmao

[merry stirrup]

old as hell bdie if so

[pure garnet]

it's a useable system but it's a very awkwardly specced system

4gb + 8gb ram and a 256gb nvme is just odd

[merry stirrup]

if only i still had z270

[cosmic gazelle]

i kinda disagree with the “light office work” comment- a 10400 can easily handle any type of office work unless you’re getting into cad or 1400 page spreadsheets or something

[merry stirrup]

40$ lowball on that

[pure garnet]

my grandma needs that

[merry stirrup]

youd be surprised

[merry stirrup]

i can lowball and send it to you if you want

[pure garnet]

no she doesn't actually

[merry stirrup]

lol

[pure garnet]

the delidded degraded 6700k will hold it down fine

[merry stirrup]

this is also kinda nice

not good but its 30$

[pure garnet]

your psu is close btw

[merry stirrup]

oh hot

[pure garnet]

hopium

[merry stirrup]

can finally put floppa serve backup

lots of people getting off old ryzen

[cosmic gazelle]

i’ve never done direct die cooling, do you need a specific adapter to mount the cooler without cracking the die

[merry stirrup]

yes

[pure garnet]

mall didn't stay closed so i actually have to go to work tomorrow

[cosmic gazelle]

are they easy to find?

[pure garnet]

it's so over

[merry stirrup]

no

[cosmic gazelle]

hmm

[merry stirrup]

can usually find them forwhatevers modern at the time

usually by 2 or 3 gens out of date you dont find the accessories for the platform

[indigo walrus]

Yeah, I think our definitions of light office work differ. 😄 I'm used to people attempting to use Excel as a Database™ as being "light" office work.

Remember, kids - if you're using Excel as a Database™, you're doing it wrong and eventually your business will come crashing down.

[merry stirrup]

so like lga 1700 delidders, direct die blocks (youll probably find these tho)

[pure garnet]

json database is the most reliable method fr

[cosmic gazelle]

oh hey TG has a am5 one for $20

[cosmic gazelle]

hoo boy excel as a database

[merry stirrup]

yeah the most useless platform to delid on

[cosmic gazelle]

don’t even get me started

[pure garnet]

hey man i need that 10c on my voltage locked x3d

[cosmic gazelle]

why? cooling doesn’t do anything or what?

[merry stirrup]

ok wait guys can we pool our money

i dont even think thats a bad deal

its a 1920x so like, gros sbut i think thats actually fine

@pure garnet are you this typa nerd shawty hook a floppa up

[pure garnet]

okay i do own magic cards but not that many

[merry stirrup]

wow clocked

i fw this tbh

im not even gonna message but its kinda cool

[pure garnet]

i might buy the x870e ocf

i keep thinking about it

[merry stirrup]

y not apex?

aura cause matches?

[pure garnet]

pricing mostly

[merry stirrup]

bios is just as bad

[pure garnet]

used apex is about same price as a new ocf

[merry stirrup]

theres not even an ez mode in that bios

which is fine but they clearly dont care about it

[pure garnet]

im more just debating which dumb purchase i wanna do

bc i was either gonna upgrade my phone for no real reason or buy a motherboard for no real reason

[merry stirrup]

imo buy strix so in 2 years when you pull it out of your closet someone wants to pay real money for it

(me)

oc bioses for the taichi but not the ocf

what an L

[cosmic gazelle]

@merry stirrup what are the chances the china direct die bracket cracks da 4790k lmao

[steel stream]

eugene

[merry stirrup]

krabs

[merry stirrup]

i mean are 4790ks expensive

i dont think theyre anymore than the bracket itself

[cosmic gazelle]

nah like $30-40

[merry stirrup]

the issue is not really the bracket its that you need modified cooler mounting

[cosmic gazelle]

hmm

[merry stirrup]

because the cpu is physically lower

[cosmic gazelle]

couldn’t you just like

[merry stirrup]

yes

[cosmic gazelle]

screw it in more

[merry stirrup]

no

depends on the cooler but generally no

some would let you do that though

[steel stream]

why are you direct die cooling a 4790k

[cosmic gazelle]

time to use ai to give me unreliable information on this

[merry stirrup]

this i support its clearly meme and fun

[cosmic gazelle]

because i already have one and its funny

and i want to see what the best possible gaming experience on ddr3 would be

however that would require me removing my 3080 from my main rig and using it to test and that sounds like a pain in my ass so idk

[merry stirrup]

die

[merry stirrup]

X99 then

or unrealistically a 9900k on ddr3

[cosmic gazelle]

i don’t know how to find these boards anymore

[cosmic gazelle]

also it’s unlikely any ddr3 supported x99 would give actually better framerates than a highly oc’ed 4790k

at least from what i can gather

[merry stirrup]

nowadays? i dont want to be stuck on a 4 core regardless if it gets me 6-10 more fps with nothiong else open on my computer

[merry stirrup]

any lga 1151 ddr3 board modded to 9th gen

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah but that’s the whole point i’m not gonna daily drive a direct die 4790k lmao

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah i know i just don’t know what to actually search aliexpress for

used lmao twice

[merry stirrup]

there are consumer z170 ddr3 boards

not a china thing

oh that one is mislisted but still

[cosmic gazelle]

@merry stirrup this is probably fake but ai says pa120 can do direct die

[merry stirrup]

i wholeheartedly doubt it

[pure garnet]

i mean if you buy a direct die adapter kit can't you use any old cooler technically

[merry stirrup]

yeah if you can find one but you usually wont

people generally have the best luck with just m3 rods and an aio

[pure garnet]

am5 has one but again

delidded am5 lmao

i've had my game open all day to the point my cpu temp has climbed to the 70s, calling this a trefi test fr

[floral spear]

What do I even do with these

[pure garnet]

hearty snack

[distant shard]

Profit

Keep it like stocks and sell it for max profit

[floral spear]

I live around Las Vegas maybe there's a chance that Kristofer Yee might buy it

[devout ridge]

give them to me

[merry stirrup]

give them to me

[pure garnet]

my thing is just is 8400 gonna be that much cooler than 6400

the current funny board also has it's own aura

[clear radish]

X99 doesnt support ddr3

[cosmic gazelle]

found it hehehehe

This is literally the only one on the internet

so far as i can tell

[cosmic gazelle]

jk they only ship to canada

[brave panther]

X79

[turbid locust]

yikes.

[pure garnet]

wait were you trying 1.3v soc all night

[turbid locust]

no thats just the mpower being dumb

it's 1.1vsoc

im gonna copy Gene terms ig

alright changed everything to what the gene did/I set and it went 14hrs

the ONLY thing thats different is VDD and VDDQ. VDD obviously isnt the issue but this kit might want 1.55v instead of 1.45v VDDQ at 8200.

[frank cypress]

ngl lowk just want to pay the fee and get over it cause UPS is being annoying and not sending me my documents

already called them twice and it's kinda just causing me stress by thinking about if they send it back

might just pay it and just enjoy the rest of my break

https://tenor.com/view/eye-otter-rubbing-eyes-tired-irritated-gif-16638234

rather than fight UPS

at least i know for next time

[pure garnet]

i wasn't aware ups standard meant extortion

[turbid locust]

@topaz veldt have you done any more on ARL? Did you end up getting 9K stable?

[shell void]

perchance just 8000 & 2200?

[turbid locust]

still working on it, I think it's just mpower not setting terms as well as Gene

@pure garnet Seby dropping modded Mpower bios' in hwbot btw

[pure garnet]

i'll flash it but what's even in amd cbs

[turbid locust]

I dont remember lol

im finding potential gas

I dont remember if I applied 60 ODTs after i swapped to test bios

I know it defaulted 43.6 PU tho but I ended up changing it to 40 for the 14hr run no error so

if this doesnt make it ill try 43 pu and 60's set

afaik this is only gskill 6000 c26 stuff btw

people on OCN are saying the mpower didnt have group B exposed but I swear i saw them. Will have to check. Maybe it was exposed on most recent bios.

@pure garnet btw dont update to most recent Mpower bios on the website, it breaks dGPU output in bios

[pure garnet]

you mean the one i've been using already

[pallid marsh]

@devout tangle https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/minute-maid-discontinuing-frozen-juice-9.7065520 smh

[devout tangle]

I'm aware.

So did the other company.

@pallid marsh Bad coop wrong chat.

[pallid marsh]

now i know why my store only has like 4 store brand flavors our generation isnt buying it

[pallid marsh]

nah i gota bring you out of your comfort zone

[wraith steeple]

Oh rare seeing Sagara here

👀

[devout tangle]

I blame Coop.

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-with-tongue-cat-smiling-gif-11949735780193730026

zen +5% copium

[turbid locust]

I mightve figured it out but idk yet

im letting this vibe for awhile, and then we're gonna try for 8300 or 8400 with some gskill 6000c26 specific terms set and maybe modded beta bios

[brisk jolt]

mac stop teasing me to try another 98

[south shuttle]

wrong, it’s +50% ||power draw for the 9800x3d||

[brisk jolt]

that has nothing to do with the IMC bins

[south shuttle]

they’re sort of the same quality as zen 4

[turbid locust]

for gear 1

gear 2 9000 is just better cause the ratios arent broken lmao

[south shuttle]

til you find out about inteliu

m

[brisk jolt]

it might be time to start locking in to tune the 9950

[turbid locust]

get to it man

go you have a 6000c26 kit?

[brisk jolt]

yes

[turbid locust]

you can go off of terms the community has figured out then

[brisk jolt]

last time I tried the max it could properly boot into windows was like
a measly 7600

[turbid locust]

how long ago was that and what board

[brisk jolt]

7800 and 8000 was like the same

like 2 months ago with the mpower

[turbid locust]

hmmmm it might just be really bad then

I havent tried 8400 on the mpower yet but I learned a lot about this chip and this ram on the Gene yesterday

[south shuttle]

same

[turbid locust]

with that being said I was unable to stabilize 8K on my 9600x with the same kit and the gene

[pure garnet]

random fact about the 6700 xt, it won't do hd bioses

[turbid locust]

so I really do think it's mostly up to the cpu

[pure garnet]

so now i'm doing ram tunes at 768p

[turbid locust]

peak

[south shuttle]

i have two b650m hdvs, they each behave diff

with the same cpu

[turbid locust]

checks out, gear 2 is very finnicky

[pure garnet]

i got internet working again

[brisk jolt]

I know its a 4 dimmer and all… but the 9800x3d on x870 steel legend couldnt even do 7000 in g2

[turbid locust]

yikes

Tomahawk does 8K all day

[brisk jolt]

im gonna update bios and try again

[odd sable]

wtf? ive gotten 4 dimm "g1" 6400 to boot

[brisk jolt]

cant push further on the arl fo now

[brisk jolt]

gear 1 is pretty much more on the imc

[pure garnet]

my b650e-f booted 8000 fine even when it was hopeless

i think he just has bad luck with chips like u

[turbid locust]

I wouldnt bother trying for gear 2 stuff on a 2dpc board

[pure garnet]

or needs to play with terms

[brisk jolt]

gear 2 i’d chalk it up to the combination of both shit chip and shit board

[brisk jolt]

i sold the x870 and transitioned to the mpower entirely

[turbid locust]

My second 9800X3D literally couldnt survive pressing the start button on karhu at 8K so

[turbid locust]

Avoid most recent bios

people are having trouble getting into the bios with dGPUs

[brisk jolt]

yeah i saw that from kyoko jn

[merry stirrup]

link?

[pure garnet]

huh

[brisk jolt]

i think i mixed both of ur statements previously oops

im gonna upd to 2nd latest

[shell void]

explosion inbound?

[brisk jolt]

yes michael kaboom

[merry stirrup]

double it and give it to the next person

[pure garnet]

i’m flashing seby bios now @turbid locust

[brisk jolt]

next person with unknown 600w bomb:

[burnt socket]

e

[burnt socket]

oppenheimer 2077

[turbid locust]

https://www.overclock.net/threads/msi-b850-mpower-259-1-dpc-eclk-8l-pcb-2xgen5x4-nvme-1xgen5x16-postcode-6x-fan-headers-64mb-bios.1817622/page-16#post-29555027 Cant find the exact post again but it's somewhere in this thread iirc. I think it's Gskill 6000c26 PCB specific stuff but

nvm it's here in another thread https://www.overclock.net/posts/29526183/

[merry stirrup]

hurray

[turbid locust]

I still think it's gskill 6000c26 specific

Im lowkey scared it's too specific to that kit because... I dont want to daily this kit lol. I want to keep it out for benching

I want to daily my greenies

[burnt socket]

@pure garnet turns out pny betrayed my dimms

had to jump reset pins

cuz bios said it's samsung chips 🤦‍♂️

[merry stirrup]

why is this relebant

[pure garnet]

because i linked him hynix easy timings yesterday

yeah i’d just run expo won’t even lie

[merry stirrup]

lol yeah

[burnt socket]

referring to my yesterday's 'overclocking'

[merry stirrup]

arent you the b840 guy

[burnt socket]

returning to expo 1

[merry stirrup]

you got bigger fish to fry

[pure garnet]

how long does flashback take

[merry stirrup]

3-5 minute

if its flashing its working

[burnt socket]

[pure garnet]

it is it’s just taking awhile

[burnt socket]

still saving up for a new motherboard

@pure garnet

[pure garnet]

@turbid locust i flashed the wrong bios 😭

it's the one they made for the broken one

[turbid locust]

oh lmao

[topaz veldt]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asrock-motherboards-are-now-killing-ryzen-5-9600x-cpus-four-cases-in-two-weeks

[turbid locust]

I saw that lol

[pure garnet]

a second reflash is hitting

[turbid locust]

Asrock going through it

[brisk jolt]

you have completed the listening comprehension

[pure garnet]

i mean the bios is still modded it’s just

the one based off a version with igpu issues

[pallid marsh]

i love me some good apus

[turbid locust]

igpu works fine

when I had it on my rx480 it was freaking

[pure garnet]

the dgpu works fine for me on 4070/6700xt so

[turbid locust]

hmm

[pure garnet]

okay i’m on seby a12 now

[edgy laurel]

3rd party seller, hope dude gets it

[devout ridge]

5 year protection plan for 114usd ain't bad

[pure garnet]

so windows search is just straight up dead on my bench install now

[burnt socket]

I was so used to search for individual settings on windows search i kept doing it in Linux 💀

[turbid locust]

kek

[pure garnet]

i’m gonna assume the unstable 9000 config had something to do with it

i’ll do the usual dism stuff

[brisk jolt]

niceone

[topaz veldt]

Fucking fever

[oak vector]

Lmfao
Centrecom (tech and pc store in Aus) are giving away a free laptop
Only if you buy some msi supercomputer mini pc, worth $8000

What a deal!!!

[brisk jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/766854199446863924/1213298486116618310/image0.gif

[frank zealot]

https://makerworld.com/en/models/2291411-thinkbox-v2-a-custom-4-bay-sata-sas-hdd-nas

That's a dope ass design

[oak vector]

I shit you not

[cosmic gazelle]

why is it so small

why would you want a small supercomputer

[indigo walrus]

So it doesn't take up a ton of space? Same reason lots of people buy the Mac Mini Pro M69 Ultra Max 420 Super Mega MLG Gamer Edition computer. It's a lot of power in a really small package.

[oak vector]

so the rich people can buy like ten of them, chuck them in their rack and hoard my ram /j

but yeah
dense performance is like, kinda really desirable haha

[oak vector]

this one is even better
it has edge expert in the name

😭

[edgy laurel]

its MSI's DGX Spark

[wraith steeple]

[oak vector]

im still laughing at the name it's so bad 😭

[livid flame]

Selling a pc based on “AI Tops” 😭

[edgy laurel]

are you unfamiliar? https://www.servethehome.com/nvidia-dgx-spark-review-the-gb10-machine-is-so-freaking-cool/

[oak vector]

honestly i should buy it, then sell it just so I can keep that laptop /j

[oak vector]

oh wow

[edgy laurel]

At the heart of the system is the NVIDIA GB10 (Grace Blackwell) package that combines a 20-core Arm CPU with a Blackwell generation GPU connected via C2C NVLink. We also see these are flanked by 128GB of LPDDR5X memory.

[livid flame]

Looks like something the Green Goblin would have in Spider-Man as his villain PC

[oak vector]

I mean I kinda get it but I dont

honestly
certain buzzwords sell like mad, so I can't blame them

[livid flame]

The 5090 has like 3.5k AI tops or something.

[oak vector]

..

that's a rip

[livid flame]

So you’d be better off spending 5k for a proper pc over the AI Tops advertised 8k mini pc

[edgy laurel]

mark should show up and school you on why these are useful

[livid flame]

Form factor wise is cool. Real world this tells me a 5090 pc is 3.5x more valuable

[oak vector]

absolute cheapest 5090 for me rn (prices in aud duh)

[livid flame]

And about 40% cheaper

[edgy laurel]

the real world you're thinking of is the consumer gaming PC crowd. not what this thing is aimed at

[livid flame]

Yikes they hasn’t gone that much in the uk when I last looked

[edgy laurel]

these are AI development workstations

[livid flame]

I was going based off that AI Tops figure

[edgy laurel]

128GB of memory means much larger projects than a 5090 is capable of

[edgy laurel]

which is a pointless buzzword

[livid flame]

£2700 5090 here

[oak vector]

I mean tbf that's a fair point
Development rigs are usually absurdly priced

[edgy laurel]

this is critical for working with large models

[livid flame]

That’s true

But for the lower price you could still build a rig with 128gb that’s cheaper with a 5090 in the uk

Apparently not in the US anymore

[edgy laurel]

and you'd still be stuck with 32GB

[oak vector]

okay not a whole lot cheaper, but still

[edgy laurel]

and puny model sizes

[livid flame]

Apparently that’s the cheapest 5090 in the uk

[edgy laurel]

these use LPDDR5x unified memory like a Mac Studio or AI Max+ 395

[livid flame]

A few at £2800 and £3200 so £2700 is a bargain

So basically, if you have a 5090, you wanna get Steve’s Chinese friend to add memory and you’re unstoppable with AI

[devout ridge]

only gets you up to 64gb

(god that would sound insane like 1.5 years ago)

[livid flame]

True that

I feel like the more AI advances, the more consumer gear will be left behind

[devout ridge]

honestly for cheap AI apple is the way to go

[livid flame]

Like I believe in AI eventually.. like decades to come

[devout ridge]

(also would sound insane 1.5 years ago)

[oak vector]

considering i have an iphone and have kinda grown to really like it, I may consider getting a macbook, that's on the back burner though haha

[livid flame]

The hype imo is real but it’s such a long process I feel a lot of damage will be done by the hype to the rest of the industry

[devout ridge]

macbooks are great if you give it enough time to adjust to them

[devout ridge]

AI is going to continue to be a thing, but not nearly to the degree it’s been propped up to

[topaz veldt]

Instill don't understand the window manager/UI on my MBP

I still*

[livid flame]

When I was a kid I remember Mac for video and music editing programs . Everything else windows. I’ve honestly never bothered looking at Apple PCs since 1998

[devout ridge]

still true lol

[oak vector]

look..... I have an iphone that i love and hate lmao
but I really have no need for a macbook, doesn't mean I don't want one lmao

[livid flame]

Then photoshop came to windows

[oak vector]

idk gotta blow a fortune on my main rig, then an even bigger fortune on motorbike, insurance, gear, lessons

[livid flame]

Or we’ll, photoshop became good I should say

[oak vector]

oh boy that's not gonna be cheap

[devout ridge]

macs still do better for audio/video, still pictures doesn’t matter much

[livid flame]

I’m old enough to remember shit like coral paint shop pro. I forgot the name before it was bought by coral, the missus has a 2010 cd upstairs and the original box

The jasc software version

But that was like free in the 90s with Apple like features

[devout ridge]

apple used to be cool

then they stopped including stickers

[oak vector]

can people STOP selling rtx 3070 pcs for 2 grand PLEASEEEE

[livid flame]

Honestly without Steve jobs being a massive prick Apple has lost charm

[devout ridge]

real

need a bit of prickery to give a company some soul

[livid flame]

He just demanded better, it’s such an old mentality now for this woke society

Probably why we want AI to make the good things for us now and we don’t want to

[devout ridge]

somewhere, there’s a sticker factory that has gone bankrupt because apple stopped ordering from them

[wraith steeple]

Michael Spindler's incompetence with marketing and other questionable ways of running put Apple on its deathbed in the mid 90s

[livid flame]

I didn’t get a Ryzen sticker with my 7800x3d too

I always look forward to putting them on the back of my case

[devout ridge]

the omission of stickers from modern electronics will be the downfall of humanity

[livid flame]

Only ever had 1 Intel. Never put that on.

[oak vector]

i am going to nuke fb marketplace
7800x3d with a 5070

[devout ridge]

where’s the whimsy of putting my amd ryzen sticker on my macbook?

[livid flame]

I will take that 5070 from you and give you a 7800xt

[oak vector]

im sorry that rig looks absolutely abominable

[livid flame]

Black and white mismatch is ugly af. I generally don’t care about aesthetics but that’s one I dislike

[oak vector]

okayyyyy i like this

[topaz veldt]

looks cool but terrible case

[devout ridge]

looks like a surround speaker that is included with a soundbar

[livid flame]

I remember I bought a b350 mortar (white) with a 1060 6gb in white from asus… and put it in a black case with clear Perspex RGB fans

[oak vector]

oh for sure I'm sure the performance is buns and it has a completely open rear for the gpu to just huff dust in lmao
okay nvm found they had the cover

[livid flame]

It was fucking disgusting. So I put it down the side of the desk I couldn’t see it and never looked at it until I sold the parts 2 years later

[topaz veldt]

No its fabric covered on all sides and basically slow roasts everythingt

[devout ridge]

maybe they just want a medium rare PC?

that case will give them that

[oak vector]

then there's this
rtx 5080
32gb ddr4
then a 10900kf

[livid flame]

Oh to top mine off I put a 120mm aio on a 1700x

[livid flame]

I loved it until the front panel was designed by a dumb dumb

Stole 20% of the airflow for a light bar

[topaz veldt]

@turbid locust my two 9800X3Ds - I guess I know which one to sell

[topaz veldt]

its prob decent

[oak vector]

honestly would absolutely clap my 4060ti
but
10900kf kinda pains me

but ngl I might cop the rig lmao

[livid flame]

So I thought the lower voltage on the right would be better. Asus prediction says the one on the left will be better?

[hoary hatch]

I need to find a picture of my MacBook

[livid flame]

Can upgrade that to an 11900k

[oak vector]

is it bad i wanna flame people who claim their rigs are brand new and top of the line when it has a 3070 or 3080.... like broski this shit is almost 6 years old by now
they're nice, but like cmon

[livid flame]

It’s when they say brand new and put a 5700xt in it

[pure garnet]

surprised they're that close honestly

[livid flame]

Yes, you bought it brand new, but it’s still garbage in 2026 for £2000

[topaz veldt]

core to core or CPU to CPU?

[topaz veldt]

every voltage value on the left is better, along with a higher SP score

[livid flame]

@oak vector

[cosmic gazelle]

did you manually tune each core or did you have to do it through ryzen master

[livid flame]

Oh yeah that’s true. How’d I say voltages better on right 🤦‍♂️

[pure garnet]

cpu to cpu

[topaz veldt]

I mean... its not that close really

[topaz veldt]

I am not sure you understand what that screenshot is - thats the factory fused voltages for each core at a given frequency

[cosmic gazelle]

wait yeah i'm confused

factory fused meaning that's what they run at at default or what?

[pure garnet]

the left chip needs ~100mv less on each core to do the factory max speed

vs the right chip

[cosmic gazelle]

i thought a given sku just did the same voltage regardless of binning

[topaz veldt]

yeah 100mv is pretty significant

[cosmic gazelle]

is that not a thing anymore

[livid flame]

Small basically got a 9850x3d bin on his 9800x3d

[topaz veldt]

nah

i just have two 9800X3D and I am debating which to keep, now I know

[pure garnet]

i don't think they ever did x voltage for x clock

it's always just been silicon that does x clock but not y clock becomes the cpu

[cosmic gazelle]

what i mean is i thought a given, like, 8700k would have the stock voltages that intel told it to run at, and the stock frequency target

when did it become adaptive

[livid flame]

As long as it hits its clocks within given parameters and doesn’t die. It’s binned and sold

[pure garnet]

i mean every cpu has a fused vid table

but they weren't the same value in every cpu

even going back to core 2 duos for example, people bin hundreds of them to get a golden one to throw under ln2

[cosmic gazelle]

so it has always been the case that two cpus running at the same frequency could be using completely different voltages without you going in and changing anything?

[odd sable]

what are you selling the 2nd one for?

[pure garnet]

yeah

[cosmic gazelle]

i'm so confused i never knew that before

[pure garnet]

that's where the term silicon lottery came from

it's a lottery on how good your chip is even if they all meet the given spec

[cosmic gazelle]

so if i apply a -10 curve offset then i'm just applying that to the curve that was already pre determined for my cpu

[pure garnet]

yeah

[cosmic gazelle]

hmm

[pure garnet]

-30 pulls about 100mv off iirc

[cosmic gazelle]

so if i'm unstable at -15 then that probably means i just got a shit chip or is it dependent on what my stock vids were

[livid flame]

100 million volts

If only that was the true meaning of mv

[pure garnet]

mV yeah yeah

[odd sable]

that'd be 100MV instead of 100mV

MegaVolt vs milliVolt

[cosmic gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/delorean-time-travel-back-to-the-future-marty-mc-fly-gif-11295533

[pure garnet]

the higher the stock vids = the worse the chip is comparatively

but if it hits the stock clocks it's to spec

[cosmic gazelle]

but like does stability at a given offset really mean anything if i could just have lower vids to begin with

[pure garnet]

there's some safety margin left in by the manu

[frank cypress]

"high end pc" on FBM
looks inside
5700x and 3070

mf this shit wasn't high end when it was new

it was mid end

[livid flame]

8gb gpu high end

[odd sable]

ehh, id say thats a high-end CPU, not top of the line, but high end sure

[devout ridge]

if you squint hard enough, your eyes will close, and maybe you’ll be able to picture the “high end pc” in your mind

[odd sable]

GPU, solidly midrange

[cosmic gazelle]

so like is temperature data from a channel like GN highly variable because they could have gotten a chip with above average stock vids?

[pure garnet]

selling high end desktop, 7800x3d/6700xt

[frank cypress]

i mean i guess.... back in 2021 maybe

i wouldn't call it high end today for sure though

[devout ridge]

selling gaming computer, dell thinkcenter with a 3050 in it

[odd sable]

with the "when it was new" restriction

[topaz veldt]

8 core of fury

[frank cypress]

ye i get what you mean

[odd sable]

high-end when new CPU, midrange when new GPU

[cosmic gazelle]

hey buster don't knock the sff king

[frank cypress]

well i guess you're right

[devout ridge]

it ain’t the sff king

4060 sff is

[frank cypress]

cause if you look at the segments it's kinda
ryzen 3 - low end
ryzen 3 - mid end
ryzen 7+ - high end?

[odd sable]

this shit, this is a top of the line CPU (when new) with a midrange (when new) GPU

[devout ridge]

king of the sub 6/7L case

[odd sable]

3 low, 5 mid, 7 high, 9 top

[cosmic gazelle]

is it really sff if you have room for a dual slot gpu

[livid flame]

8th gen intel and 3050 high end for £270

[devout ridge]

yes

[pure garnet]

im just using it as a display adapter but yeah

[frank cypress]

eww

yeah that shit pisses me off

[odd sable]

see and i use a 7900xtx with my 7800x3d

[frank cypress]

when they call it high end

[devout ridge]

find me a single slot half height gpu that matches the 4060 and i’ll eat my shoe

[pure garnet]

i will never do anything 3d with that card

[odd sable]

though it was far funnier when i had a 7900x(tx) PC

[livid flame]

Most people aren’t dumb. If it costs less than a brand new PS5 it’s not high end

[pure garnet]

it's just there to be display out and i had it already

[devout ridge]

most people are dumb*

[odd sable]

you know the CPU has an iGPU, right?

[frank cypress]

i have one better

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-gunn-eww-gross-yuck-meme-disgusting-sticks-tongue-out-gif-1716626911192888665

[livid flame]

7900xtx - lad is rolling in vram money

[cosmic gazelle]

you act like some grandma that goes on fbm to buy a pc for little timmy knows anything about pricing though, predators win most of the time

[pure garnet]

that hurts fclk overclocking

[odd sable]

fair

[devout ridge]

work a day in retail or really any customer service based position and you’ll realize the average person is a complete and utter idiot, especially when it comes to anything related to technology

[odd sable]

why eww?

[frank cypress]

@devout ridge eat shoe

[livid flame]

Dunno where you come from but we look after our grandmama’s here. We don’t let them fend for themselves

[frank cypress]

🙂

[pure garnet]

i have to go in tomorrow for some reason even though 90% of my city is shut down

[cosmic gazelle]

i don't understand not wanting to be technologically proficient in a day and age where you can't step 2 feet without encountering some kind of computer

[pure garnet]

so i'll be getting paid to do homework i guess

[devout ridge]

half height dual slot! not single slot!

[livid flame]

ICE and snow?

[frank cypress]

it's... not single slot?

huh?

it's half height dual slot

the regular 4000 ada is single slot

[devout ridge]

they tried calling me in today because someone has to be in the store even though we’re closed

[pure garnet]

the southern us doesn't function when it snows

[frank cypress]

the 4000 ada SFF is half height, dual slot

[devout ridge]

my manager legit told me i could do homework and get paid

[cosmic gazelle]

those are like the same thing silly (i'm joking don't eat me alive)

[livid flame]

You should see the uk…

[cosmic gazelle]

this is badass

[devout ridge]

find me a single slot half height gpu that matches the 4060 and i’ll eat my shoe

[livid flame]

It looks like something from the early 00s

[pure garnet]

same but i work at a mom and pop so i kinda have free will at work

[devout ridge]

southern US has exactly zero ice/snow infrastructure

[frank cypress]

:)

[livid flame]

If you think that’s cool check out old zalman cpu coolers

[cosmic gazelle]

3050 is the most powerful true single slot unless there's some weird edge case i don't know about

[frank cypress]

🙂

obviously not factory but it is single slot

[livid flame]

We have salt. That’s it. Salt.and 90% of it goes unused because we can’t get out to use it

[frank cypress]

and you could buy this today, if you wanted to

[devout ridge]

if you’re talking single slot full height, i bet the A4000 is up there

[cosmic gazelle]

no

[frank cypress]

https://n3rdware.com/gpu-coolers/single-slot-rtx-4000-sff-ada-cooler

[cosmic gazelle]

half and single slot the pink 3050 is the best i'm aware of

[devout ridge]

none of the roads near me are salted or plowed

[frank cypress]

85euros is steep though

[devout ridge]

granted i live in the middle of fucking nowhere

[pure garnet]

yeah that’s like the just the cost of import for a $3 ups package

[frank cypress]

PAIN

[devout ridge]

they didn’t even plow out the bloody fire station

[cosmic gazelle]

this is actually wildly cool. did not know this existed

what are the temps? do they say?

[devout ridge]

the fire station is currently snowed in

[livid flame]

Zalman made coolers well.. cool

[pure garnet]

as long as the card shows up okay i’ll send back like 30 bucks since i wasn’t aware either and could’ve saved you brokerage with expedited

[frank cypress]

nah all good

it's my own fault, dw about it

thanks for selling me the card

i just paid it cause i didn't want to deal with being stressed about it while i fight them for the documents

wasn't worth the hassle to me

still comes out to less than FBM

[livid flame]

Zalman even did THIS .. this is fkn cool

[pure garnet]

yeah they’re not exactly in a rush to help you huh

[frank cypress]

haha yeah

[oak vector]

🤮

[frank cypress]

it's like a lil jet engine

[livid flame]

Exactly what they were going for

[oak vector]

literally
It actually makes me mad

[cosmic gazelle]

what ever happened to that company that made the like suction vacuum cooler or whatever that thing was

[oak vector]

like 3070 is alright but it ain't high end and it aint worth 2 grand

[livid flame]

I can get one for £70

[teal orbit]

I am having the funniest issue on my 7640u right now, it's stuck at ~500 mhz and won't boost at all

[cosmic gazelle]

power adapter

1000%

[teal orbit]

even on battery it should run correctly

but it is plugged in

[cosmic gazelle]

yes it being plugged in is probably the issue

[livid flame]

500mhz was peak 1999

[teal orbit]

it's not plugged in but i did plug it in and it didn't affect anything

[livid flame]

Welcome to the 90s kid

[cosmic gazelle]

firmware signals hard throttling like that when it decides there’s a power delivery issue

[teal orbit]

its a lot faster than the 90s fortunately

[cosmic gazelle]

so either it’s power adapter or some kind of battery thing

[livid flame]

Well pentium 3 was 1999 with 450 and 500mhz

In 1999 I had 333mhz

[sharp yoke]

apple files left in PC but I cant delete them cus they are "open". Nothing in task manager. how can i delete?

[teal orbit]

can't imagine that's how it works

what power delivery issue would you have that would require throttling the cpu

if it doesn't have enough wattage, it just starts draining the battery

[livid flame]

Well if it thinks the battery would explode I guess that’s one

[cosmic gazelle]

it literally is, dell laptops limit the cpu to 800mhz when they don’t like the adapter you’re using, and my modern amd laptop throttles the cpu like all hell when I’m using a 65w adapter

[oak vector]

can i preorder ram for when the rampocalypse is over and it won't cost me half a kidney

[cosmic gazelle]

you would think but this is not how it works, laptops generally prioritize charging the battery at all costs and will not use common sense in this scenario

[teal orbit]

oh, i don't know about dell. mine is a framework laptop and it doesn't have anything to stop you from using specific proprietary adapters or something

[oak vector]

I use geek uninstaller (open with administrator) to force uninstall stuff.

[livid flame]

You bought a framework

[teal orbit]

indeed

[oak vector]

investment disclosure

[teal orbit]

yeah i sure wish i was making money off of framework

[indigo walrus]

Uninstall Bonjour... Add/Remove Programs.

[wise bear]

eeeeee

EEEEEEEEE

[teal orbit]

it took 6 minutes to hibernate

[wise bear]

gross, dont use hibernation

[livid flame]

Only bears should use that

[sharp yoke]

did so. those files are still there

[indigo walrus]

Reboot. If you don't reboot, certain files won't get removed.

[wraith steeple]

[wise bear]

reinstall windows

[teal orbit]

i was using it to boot into another kernel without closing all my programs

[sharp yoke]

i only realised that the files were still there cus i got a popup on startup saying they were prevented from startin

[livid flame]

What

[teal orbit]

normally it takes like 10 seconds to hibernate

[sharp yoke]

i have

[livid flame]

Hibernating pc and then using another OS

[teal orbit]

linux is the context

[indigo walrus]

Wonderful. It seems Apple has once again failed to make software that functions properly.

[livid flame]

That sounds like a disaster bb

[teal orbit]

it's perfectly fine

[sharp yoke]

ill figure it out

[teal orbit]

i think it might even be tested

[sharp yoke]

ill try safe mode

[livid flame]

It’s going to kill ya OS

Ya don’t hibernate and dual boot

[teal orbit]

i don't really see an issue from it from looking internally

[livid flame]

It’s designed for when the hardware isn’t reused with another os

[teal orbit]

it's just the kernel

what could they possibly have changed between 6.12 and 6.18 smh

[livid flame]

The memory reallocation will be fucked.. to put it nicely

[teal orbit]

i don't think they're changing memory layout of the hibernation image between kernel versions

[brisk jolt]

average am5 experience

3 business days to boot

[teal orbit]

framework needs to make a panther lake board

but i know they won't because it's actually good

[teal orbit]

because the kernel still cold boots normally, then later it thaws userspace processes from swap

[topaz veldt]

Don't fucking shoot me after I say "don't shoot" and then get rocked and say "Oh I was scared"

[oak vector]

Heya

[oak vector]

They do it cos they hate windows /j

[wise bear]

eeeee

[teal orbit]

just remembered I updated the bios 3 days ago, that must be it
framework momento

[wraith steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/eazy-e-gif-21060035

[topaz veldt]

Thinking about custom loop in Ncase M3

[livid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/catjam-runescape-gdb-osrs-green-dragon-bot-gif-24522937

[wise bear]

e.

[oak vector]

https://tenor.com/view/ea-eeee-gif-23557277

[wise bear]

e?

e.

[livid flame]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[topaz veldt]

I think that's enough

[wise bear]

ive been playing secondlife for the past month

i have infiltrated so many troll circles

[wise bear]

e.

[wraith steeple]

Oh?

[brisk jolt]

https://youtu.be/dqe9tPYQ84Q?feature=shared whack

[topaz veldt]

The real steam box

[storm hatch]

guys I got a odd request idk where to post it 😭 if yall spot one of the chrome 2060 or 2070 that is broken or for parts hit me up I want one for display in my room but I dont wanna pay 160 or 180 for something on my wall

[topaz veldt]

Ok I will be sure to keep an eye out for you

[lone scarab]

what country do you want it to be in

[arctic bronze]

chrome? you mean a founders edition? lol

[burnt socket]

sends asus rtx 2060 with chrome wrap

[topaz veldt]

Bro its chrome for my collection

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/edge-runners-maine-gif-26792891

[low sorrel]

@topaz veldt Biggie is offering me his 4060ti 8gb for 150 USD + shipping do i take it

idk if it would even be an upgrade because vram

[odd sable]

remember that he is in AK, so, that +shipping could be a bitch

[low sorrel]

eh im shipping it to point roberts anyways so it's atleast still domestic shipping

[odd sable]

ahh, then nothing to declare across the border, right?

[low sorrel]

right?

[brisk jolt]

its like 40% better sccording to tpu but still underpowered ngl

but I’d still take it

[low sorrel]

nah im going to declare it

[brisk jolt]

you can use dlss 4.5 performance better

[low sorrel]

they usually let you through if you're nice

[low sorrel]

but vram

[low sorrel]

ok maybe not via fedex

[odd sable]

as i was saying, could be a bitch

[brisk jolt]

ultra performance and medium settings

[odd sable]

USPS is probably your best bet

[low sorrel]

oh never mind fedex express is chilling

[odd sable]

U L T R A performance*

[low sorrel]

pog

[oak vector]

hehehehehe we'll be matching 🫶

tho ngl my pc will probably be gone within the next couple of days

[turbid locust]

would bin the IMCs ngl. For ryzen I'd value better imc than anything.

I think Mpower does 8200 fine, just a few tweaks.

gonna let it continue

[wise bear]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vH_K61HNYVc

[livid flame]

ARC raiders is dead when that lad stops streaming it

[low sorrel]

oh shit i only have 1 minute left in raid and im only next to the transit. guess i gotta transit to streets of tarkov and keep the giant bag full of dead pmc loot i found:

hey lets not die to the claymores at lexos like i did with the gpu:
oh hey lets cut across the parking lot to save time on the way to sewer manhole:

hits a claymore:

I hate tarkov I hate tarkov

WHY DOES A CAR DEALERSHIP

HAVE FUCKING CLAYMORES

[nova patrol]

https://giphy.com/gifs/kung-fu-panda-cooked-XQUVCPO6AY9TXsqWqu

[signal timber]

https://tenor.com/view/skibidadoodle-pet-pet-pet-landmine-funny-gif-19179525

[signal timber]

Home security

[nova trout]

I need help

Gotta move m.2 to slot on right

How does the right one secure

Didn’t use it before

I learned right one doesn’t share bandwidth with gpu

You push back that clip thing but I notice a screw hole
Any screw goes there ?

Forgot to remove plastic cover from heatsink when I first installed it oops

[signal timber]

Looks like the SSD is beeing held down by that gray plastic clip, dont think that you need a screw

[nova trout]

Roger

[brisk jolt]

oh no

[nova trout]

My gpu paste fails I scooped back the excess onto die

But you can see empty spots

Question the vram has cooling pads
There’s stickers for nonexistent ones can I use those

[livid flame]

Did you put your M2 in without removing the sticker

[nova trout]

[livid flame]

What the fuck is that paste job

Looks like the back of sonic the hedgehog

[nova trout]

I did it good but when I screw down the heatsink it shoves everything out to sides

So I took the stuff and dropped them back on the die

[livid flame]

Well yeah. If you got more paste on it than a Hollywood actresses makeup it’s going to squirt out like the filling of a doughnut when you bite into it

Leaving it alone wouldn’t have hurt it just so you know

[nova trout]

Here’s how it was last I did it two weeks ago

I spread it out manually

[nova trout]

I was told to spread it out

I can’t spare money for pads now was wondering if I can use the vram pads

[nova trout]

.

[livid flame]

Yes. Anything that pushes out when you put the heatsink on can jut be left though. No need to scoop it back on

Generally you can just use vram pads again unless they’ve disintegrated

[nova trout]

The pads are sitting there on air no vram under those two

Question is now how thick does it need to be

Cuz ones there are very thick

[livid flame]

Check your cards specs

[oak vector]

is it bad I'm basically gonna be better off buying all my parts new than buying a second hand pc off of fb marketplace

I just specced out a rig with a 9600x and a 5070ti for under 2500 aud
most rigs for 2500 aud here have an am4 cpu and like maybe a 4070ti max
sometimes a 13th gen intel cpu

[livid flame]

No it’s not bad. It’s basically people see news, see prices go up, think they can riddle people with old stuff for new price

[oak vector]

yeah
a lot of those rigs at 2500 had a 3070 or 3080 in them too...
which aren't bad, but god they probably are not anywhere near that much imo

the only pc i'd consider is the 10900kf and 5080 build lmaoooooo
which is still cancer cpu wise but atleast it has a kickass gpu

[nova trout]

Windows gone bad
I used another ssd to boot
I’m accessing bad os drive for files transfer, desktop and pictures folders not showing
Any tips ?
I did users > name >
Pictures and desktop not showing up

[storm hatch]

yea that lmao 😭

[snow holly]

https://tenor.com/view/interstellar-no-no-no-gif-15094791629266170630

[nova trout]

All because ppl think ai will take us to Venus

[arctic bronze]

companys*

[warm urchin]

companies

crazy to correct someone with a misspelled word

[arctic bronze]

who cares, its discord, im saying its companies, not the people

[tidal jewel]

while ai is cool it is way too overhyped

like cool science, and maths not really anything more than a chat bot with delusions of grandeur so far.

[arctic bronze]

like or unlike?

[tidal jewel]

also I hate that LLMs have become synonymus with ai as a whole

[nova trout]

Tell em

[arctic bronze]

thats bc its a style of ai, its not real ai as its not actually intelligent but since its called that its just a style of it

[tidal jewel]

it is not a function word in my sentence just use it to pase my thoughts

[arctic bronze]

but if you say "like" it sounds like ur saying math and science is equal to ai, thats why I said that

[oak vector]

[tidal jewel]

ai in CS is basically any adaptive algorithm which is much broader than LLMs

[arctic bronze]

im aware what ai is lol

[edgy laurel]

@steel stream good morning, time to get mad

[pure garnet]

tv should go higher

just roof mount it atp

[brave panther]

ai is rebranded ML not actual AI

[brave panther]

r/tvtoohigh

[topaz veldt]

so we're talking about doing our like big "media room" area - its not today, but I am thinking of making it a dedicated movie room/etc. (not crazy seats but just a higher end setup again). And I want to do a stone wall to match our patio since it flows through, so I threw out the idea of a gas fireplace and my wife waslike oh that'd be awesome, and we can do the TV over it! Siiiiiiigh

[shell void]

what is it with millennials and loving the look of a tv above a fireplace

[brave panther]

i dont get the whole "gas fireplace" thing
wood only

[topaz veldt]

convenience and honestly they put out serious heat comparatively

[brave panther]

no crackling wood sound

[woven adder]

yeah and you gotta chop wood and deal with ash etc

[topaz veldt]

don't get me wrong i need a wood burner, but a gas is nice additionally

[brave panther]

yea i do have all the equipment and forest to do it myself, i do get it that people who need to buy it might not want it

[topaz veldt]

I just have wood dropped

but when its like 3 degrees out its nice to flip a switch

we have one in our kitchen and we love it

[brave panther]

thats what central heating is for...

[topaz veldt]

just turn that pup on

[topaz veldt]

centrally heating outside getting the wood?

[woven adder]

gas is a luxry but i was thinking why not do a hybrid setup

combine both

[topaz veldt]

wood fire will melt whatever gas fittings are in there

you'll blow your house up

[woven adder]

i think that can be avoided by using metal fittings

[topaz veldt]

firebox gets as hot as 2000 degF

[brave panther]

no, in europe we have heat batteries that get charged when you light a fire and last couple of days in mild weather

[topaz veldt]

The mesh fire rack inside my fireplace has melted away

[topaz veldt]

Wat

I am saying I do not want to trudge out in 12" of snow in 3 degF weather to get wood @brave panther

[woven adder]

what are heat batteries

[topaz veldt]

This does nothing for my wood being outside in 12-14" of snow

[woven adder]

are you burning coal?

[topaz veldt]

wood becomes coal

[woven adder]

no

coal is coal

coal is dense

[brave panther]

big insulated water tanks of 1000-4000l in size (50-200kwh if we are talking in energy terms)

[woven adder]

have you ever been seen a steam locomotive

they use that black stuff

[topaz veldt]

Can you stop asking moronic questions

This is why you cannot run gas into a wood burning fireplace - it gets hotter, and melts steel

Its pretty basic shit

now imagine that's a fuel nozzle/regulator and it melts, dumping a 13mm hose of natural gas into your fire and next thing you know you're a lighthouse

[brave panther]

ah yes, i have portion of my wood inside

[brave panther]

there is no hybrid fireplace that burns both?

[topaz veldt]

no

you can gas convert a wood burning, but once you have gas logs in there you cannot put a wood fire in it

[tidal jewel]

I have a wood fireplace and it does not melt metal, at least not with olive tree wood

[woven adder]

you were using the wrong stuff

[brave panther]

look at this guy saying jet fuel cant melt steel beams

[topaz veldt]

lol I was using the wrong stuff?

[pure garnet]

linking the ai overview is pretty funny

[woven adder]

i have forged personally

[brave panther]

it isnt melting, its rusting at higher rate due to higher temps

[topaz veldt]

then explain the material in the ash lol

[woven adder]

i can tell you cant melt steel with coals

[topaz veldt]

coals + oxygen = hotter

[woven adder]

let alone embers

[brave panther]

slag aka iron oxide

[topaz veldt]

the thin metal wire part of the fireplace grill does, in fact, melt

here's the facts people

[woven adder]

there are tons of iron and metal types

[topaz veldt]

The answer is heavier gage iron

but guess what GAS FITTINGS ARENT?!

[tidal jewel]

coal needs low oxygen burning and if you are getting low oxygen fires you have bigger issues

[topaz veldt]

thanks genius, tell me about metal

[brave panther]

stainless steel

[topaz veldt]

I think you underestimate what gas lines are made of

There is a reason there are no dual-fuel fireplaces

Its that easy

[brave panther]

they are steel for indoor, and plastic for outside when burried

[topaz veldt]

So they should just make dual fuel fireplaces lol

its easy, fireplace can't melt steel, done, solved!

[brave panther]

wood fireplace in the back with electic fireplace that comes up in front when you dont feel like lighting a fire

[topaz veldt]

....

so now we're melting copper

they should just make small turbine engines that with the exhaust pointed into the house and when you feel like it you can through wood through the intake

I work with inconel and such for exhaust systems - steel can melt in a fireplace

[topaz veldt]

thats just a diesel heater

[brave panther]

it is but it is sorta turbine shaped

[topaz veldt]

no i want to throw wood through a spinning turbo fan

they should make it

[brave panther]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-UnhAzTMxg

[woven adder]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-cry-cry-about-it-gif-26994928

[topaz veldt]

I want to put the wood THRU the fan

its the only way to truly experience wood

[brave panther]

woodchips

[woven adder]

how do you put wood thru the fan

joking

[topaz veldt]

the same way you put a natural gas line in a wood burning fire

[woven adder]

xD

[livid flame]

Wood screws

Might have to try that some time for some extra finesse on my build

[woven adder]

interesting

and you guys also use radiators right?

[topaz veldt]

Is a Mac Mini M4 Pro w/ 14-core CPU/20-core GPU, 48GB of RAM, and 2TB NVMe too much for a shed PC?

[median blade]

shed pc? whats that

[topaz veldt]

A PC in my shed

[main sundial]

Why would you need a pc in your shed

[hoary hatch]

Naw, it's not enough

You need M3 ultra Mac studio for the shed

It's a shed, not a cardboard box. Treat it right

[topaz veldt]

lol - amex running $750 off on this spec

[hoary hatch]

I am too poor to understand Amex

[topaz veldt]

in this convo its just a that they are offering a discount on Apple shit to me

[pure garnet]

good little shed pc

[woven adder]

totally depends on what you are planning to use it for

[topaz veldt]

chrome and email and youtube

[woven adder]

overkill

but hey if you can afford it go for it

[brave panther]

Radiators and in floor radiant heating

[hoary hatch]

Hmmm
Have you considered a Macintosh professional?

[woven adder]

ok and how cold does it gets where you live

[hoary hatch]

It makes it slightly cheaper than starting spec Mac studio
Mac studio has more GPU, only 36gb ram, 512gb SSD at a similar priced spec

[topaz veldt]

I think I'd rather have the RAM and storage than GPU

also its smol and I can VESA mount it

[brave panther]

-10c usually , Lowest recorded is -24c

[woven adder]

What about summer

[hoary hatch]

At the Amex discount that Mac mini sku makes a lot more sense
At regular prices, I think it's a terrible value compared to a Mac studio

[brave panther]

34 to 39 max

[topaz veldt]

same/similar spec mac studio is $3100

[smoky bobcat]

Rewatching secret shopper. Would be funny to make a SS now and see all the system integrators include a single stick lol

[topaz veldt]

single stick DDR5 is not as bad as you think

Still not ideal, but not as bad

[smoky bobcat]

Id imagine one of them shipping with a single ddr4 stick lmao

[hoary hatch]

I'd rather have lupus than a single stick of ram

[topaz veldt]

good news! you can have both!

[hoary hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/its-never-lupus-lupus-house-house-md-hugh-laurie-gif-11021011

[turbid locust]

[topaz veldt]

bro

[turbid locust]

mpower is probably capable of 8200 lol

[topaz veldt]

I took a sick day with a fever... because my daughter also has a fever... and is watchign plex ALL day

so there goes my bored/sick task of ram tuning

[turbid locust]

My only worry is that this stability is with this kit specifically which... isnt the one I'm wanting to daily but lol

[topaz veldt]

whats the difference between?

its times like these when i wish I had an ipkvm

[turbid locust]

gskill 6000c26 is what im testing with now and all these termination tweaks and whatnot is supposedly specific to this kit

I want to daily my H16A greenies cause I want to keep my 6000c26 out for benching

[topaz veldt]

specific to that kit or that kit w/ mobo?

[turbid locust]

considering I just copied the terminations from the Gene to use on the mpower, probably the kit

[topaz veldt]

This is what my board auto'd but its H24M

[turbid locust]

the mpower errored in like an hour on auto terms at 8200

[topaz veldt]

isn't it weird? 6000 CL26 H24M

Ooooof - Cisco Nexus 9336 switches... I need 40 of them.... I am getting "4 week delay..." "or 26 week delay"

[turbid locust]

lol

[topaz veldt]

Can you guess why?

[sullen otter]

is 80 degrees while running a virus scan normal with the peerless assassin 120

on a 14600k

[topaz veldt]

yes

lol definitely

[sullen otter]

how much load is the cpu under during a birus scan normally?

[fervent chasm]

It’s sifting through all your files so yah gonna get warm

[topaz veldt]

100% CPU on hot CPU = hot

[sullen otter]

i was 50 on idle which i thought was weird but idk

[topaz veldt]

idle means various things to people

[sullen otter]

idle for me is pc on with signal rgb and discord open

[fervent chasm]

that’s not idle then lol

[devout ridge]

and what about the other 20+ background applications?

[topaz veldt]

Discord alone runs the cpu up

[sullen otter]

yeah but i usually had 20-30c before with that

[fervent chasm]

But anyways, your cpu usage will go up during a virus scan which means it will heat up

[sullen otter]

i dont have 20 other background applications

[sullen otter]

makes sense

[devout ridge]

you do, it’s pretty much inherent to windows

[fervent chasm]

You’d be surprised how many things start running in the background over time

[sullen otter]

even on windows 10?

[fervent chasm]

Yes

[devout ridge]

it’s pretty much inherent to windows

[fervent chasm]

I wonder how much of that is to speed up vs just bloatware

[devout ridge]

healthy mix of both

[sullen otter]

also what temp should i look at in hwinfo core temps or entire cpu temps

[fervent chasm]

The memory usage I understand, makes it feel a lot faster to load things

[fervent chasm]

I think you wanna be looking at the package temps

Package temps when trying to figure out how the cooling is going, it’s gonna be higher

[cosmic gazelle]

what yall know about $2400 for a 12900k and a 9070 xt

😭😭😭

[fervent chasm]

That’s why I just gave up looking at computers on fbmp

I only look at cars that I’ll never afford now

[sullen otter]

get an old turbo volvo. absoulute money pits ill tell you

[brisk jolt]

im gonna press start on karhu and instant bsod arent i

yep

[fringe vigil]

Why are you g

[glass scroll]

will fsr make games look nicer? i don't really understand the point in it

i know it can boost performance but will it also make the games i'm upscaling look nicer/higher quality as if i were playing on that resolution

[shell void]

if it’s FSR4 then yes

if it’s FSR3 or older then the native TAA implementation in the game will look better

[brisk jolt]

i pressed start on the most conservative 7800 mem try it and instantly got 4 errors

[edgy laurel]

skill issue

https://klipy.com/gifs/peace-out-later

[brisk jolt]

Yeah the 9950 and Mpower aint working out

[turbid locust]

@shell void @topaz veldt @merry stirrup @pure garnet @brisk jolt China gets all the good bins

[brisk jolt]

brb ordering 9850x3d from china

https://tenor.com/view/naoya-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-season-3-maki-maki-zenin-gif-13642749527516671169

$100 shipping fee gg

[turbid locust]

I mean that’s only 11 mins of TM5 but like damn there’s chips that can’t do 8000 lol

[brisk jolt]

curses

[pure garnet]

cheating bin

[fervent chasm]

What even is binning

I see that term used so often

[turbid locust]

They gotta be pre-binning from Taiwan or some shit

[brisk jolt]

u take out the trash

[fervent chasm]

I know it has something to do with separating bad from good

[brisk jolt]

and they send it exactly just both me and your way

[turbid locust]

That’s basically it

[turbid locust]

Apparently the same guy has a 9700x that does 9100

On a chiller apparently. Gear 2 scales with cold?

[fervent chasm]

So what you scalp the lucky parts for more and sell the regular/worse ones?

[pure garnet]

i mean in that case asus or some other company does it

[fervent chasm]

Or it’s just for e-peen

[pure garnet]

but yeah you basically buy say 100 9800x3ds, test them all, and resell the lame ones

[turbid locust]

Nobody really scalps good bins there’s no money in that

You’ll spend $5,000 binning 9850X3Ds before you find one you could sell for over retail

Well, more like $50,000