#tech-chat-2

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merry stirrup
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i cant even do that sadly

topaz veldt
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how

merry stirrup
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my memory

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i have a 1.5 kit not a 1.45 kit

topaz veldt
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oh... huh what is mine

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because mine does it

merry stirrup
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lettuce begin

pure garnet
merry stirrup
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yah

turbid locust
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ok you just gotta tickle the gene

pure garnet
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wtf

turbid locust
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WAIT

merry stirrup
turbid locust
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bro 9 seconds at 8300 "please post" settings aint even bad like wtf

topaz veldt
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your kit needs an 8000 xmp profile or something but mine def does not

merry stirrup
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it needs an 8k profile and it needs to be below a specific voltage

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its either 1.5 or 1.45v

topaz veldt
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yeah i dunno but mine is 9000 CL42

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XMP I mean

turbid locust
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mines 8200 c40 1.4v i think

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on ARL

merry stirrup
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and yeah it doesnt blow up right away so idk what you guys are doing

turbid locust
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flops have we considered you just have a solid bin lmao

merry stirrup
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well i mean i clearly do

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i do 9266 g2 on 2 sticks for bench

brisk jolt
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if isnt exploding you’re doing something wrong pepoJuice

turbid locust
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real

topaz veldt
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I should try a 16GB kit

turbid locust
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only gets worse in my experience

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my 6000c26 kit didnt like >8800

merry stirrup
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imo i think for bench ill always be on h16a

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h24m is clearly the peak daily ic but the trfc tightness of h16a on a good kit seems to be pretty diabolical

turbid locust
merry stirrup
topaz veldt
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i want to send you my 9k kit

merry stirrup
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the h24?

topaz veldt
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i dunno why but i suspect the mem kit is ass

merry stirrup
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to see if it actualyl does 9? yeah

topaz veldt
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yeah

topaz veldt
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maybe warranty thru Gskill

merry stirrup
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from my own experience so far everything seems to be IMC, i meme about it but i dont really think the apex is all that much worse than the OCF in mem, so its probably just a 50/50 type shit if you get a chip that does 9k

topaz veldt
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this CPU is better than my last

merry stirrup
turbid locust
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5nail what bios u on?

topaz veldt
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latest

merry stirrup
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i am currently on the latest microcode but its worked for me on any bios

turbid locust
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im not sure im on latest

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Yeah im on 2201

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im pretty sure

topaz veldt
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yah

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its been latest for a bit

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Z890 gets no love btw - Z790 Apex new BIOS every 2 weeks

merry stirrup
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because people just figured out insane sauce for z790 at least

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well, people who arent seby

topaz veldt
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I have debated on getting a white AM5 whatever board and....

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actually

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if I don't sell the 9800X3D....... .......

turbid locust
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increasing VDDP made things worse just now interesting

merry stirrup
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fire

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keep resistancing

brisk jolt
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or 150 if you’d like

pure garnet
merry stirrup
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that d5 is resistance hell

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and nothing else

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z790 out here doing 9k+ benches now

topaz veldt
pure garnet
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are you counting beta bioses

topaz veldt
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I wish there were a white 1DPC AM5 board

pure garnet
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tachyon

merry stirrup
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that doesnt exist

pure garnet
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its on the egg rn

merry stirrup
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i dont think snail is even going to be able to buy a tachyon

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
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its not real

pure garnet
merry stirrup
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850$ jesus FAWK

pure garnet
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600

merry stirrup
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why does google insist on giving me bad deals

topaz veldt
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its also eatx yeah

merry stirrup
turbid locust
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ok going back to reality on some 8000

merry stirrup
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guy got 10K+ to work on tachy

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(i also got 10k+ to work so idk am i cool too)

turbid locust
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I did 10k on mpower

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
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oooooohhh

topaz veldt
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See! It did something back then

merry stirrup
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super low volts on the mem may have been your ticket

topaz veldt
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Yeah maybe!?!?!

merry stirrup
brisk jolt
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unlike mac

turbid locust
merry stirrup
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i mean i have done up to 1.8

topaz veldt
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My kit hates 1.6v+

merry stirrup
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seems to just work for me so im not really that sure

low sorrel
merry stirrup
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yes

topaz veldt
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maybe what I have here is a super amazing kit that needs 1.3v @ 9000

low sorrel
merry stirrup
cosmic gazelle
merry stirrup
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yes

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APU's are not several chips glued together and then linked with infinity fabric

brisk jolt
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@low sorrel what’re your thoughts on bundling a 32GB DDR5 kit, a LP cpu cooler and a SATA ssd 1tb for 400 SGD in this current market?

merry stirrup
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APU's are one big slab of silicon where the infinity fabric never has to leave inside

topaz veldt
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APUs are beautiful

merry stirrup
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normal cpus are 3 slabs of silicon that the fclk has to be sent across

topaz veldt
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infinity fabric is NOT normal

merry stirrup
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well no but it is now

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its reused pcie interconnect that lets cpus talk

topaz veldt
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that pains me

merry stirrup
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i dont imagine if going away on the amd side

topaz veldt
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lol holy fuck

merry stirrup
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IF is new but the use of a silly little interconnect isnt

topaz veldt
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flopps.... this was it

merry stirrup
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lol

topaz veldt
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This was fucking it

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WHAT IS THE SCIENCE THOUGH

turbid locust
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5nail i remember you telling me to try low VDDQ

merry stirrup
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terminations influence voltage relations

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try leaving vddq at 1.35 and see if you can raise vdd

turbid locust
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uh ok i set a termination and zentimings is reading something else

turbid locust
brisk jolt
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@topaz veldt what’re your thoughts on 1.5v ram in a sub 10L hotbox

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do you think i’d be unstable for heat there

merry stirrup
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as we know (probably) ram is a bunch of capacitors

brisk jolt
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im not confident it’ll work with the panel closed

turbid locust
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VDD is almost never the problem

merry stirrup
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there are certain timings that recharge and refresh the capacitors that your ram is made up of

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these timings, because capacitors discharge faster when theyre warmer need to be adjusted accordingly

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the most notable of the two are tRFC and tREFI

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especially at auto this will not be a problem for any temperature

floral spear
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my desktop sucks

merry stirrup
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if you are modifying these values, say REFI to 65535 or similar, thats when you need to become weary of your ram temps

pure garnet
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did not lie

merry stirrup
pure garnet
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also

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amd just runs the dimms cooler

merry stirrup
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hynix just seems to clock flat out no matter what at typical xmp voltages

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tCL will scale heavily with the voltage number though

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thats why you see people running 1.65v for like 9000 c36

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cause in reality the same people could do 1.5 c38 at the same freq

brisk jolt
floral spear
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I gotta find more mp3s so I can use this more often

merry stirrup
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its not a one or the other scenario

brisk jolt
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Alr bet

topaz veldt
turbid locust
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meanwhile im in AM5 gear 2 hell rn

merry stirrup
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if its h24m you want 165nsish of trfc

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if its h16a you want 120ns of trfc

brisk jolt
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my goal is at least 50k trefi right

merry stirrup
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highest you can get without crashing

brisk jolt
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yeah

merry stirrup
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i would imagine 65535 being no problem

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even at like 60c dimm

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if youre worried try 49152

merry stirrup
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timing / raw clock speed

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=ns

topaz veldt
turbid locust
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ok mr "i just click on 8000 and it works"

topaz veldt
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yeah @brisk jolt the first thing I do is calc the latency ns before I even bother

brisk jolt
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5nail has magic hands xd

topaz veldt
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no not always

turbid locust
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I only have magic other appendages

topaz veldt
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My 9950X3d/Apex literally did 8000 CL30 with guess and check voltages

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I had a failure after like 3 hrs so I set it to CL32

merry stirrup
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thats 8ns of cas latency

topaz veldt
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aint happenin

merry stirrup
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thats what i daily lol

topaz veldt
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ffs

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you got somethign special there

brisk jolt
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thats some batshit crazy voltage no

merry stirrup
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1.65

brisk jolt
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wtf

merry stirrup
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nothing insane

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both my kits did it at this vdd so im gonna go out on a whim and say its not minimized

topaz veldt
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granted supposedly H16 is much easier on the IMC

pure garnet
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h24m?

topaz veldt
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no

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
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nah based on the addressing alone

pure garnet
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yeah everything i've been told is h24m easier

turbid locust
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H24M is easier

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H16A barely boots 9K on ARL for me

topaz veldt
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H24M is easier to get higher freq in

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
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H16A, being binary, is less overhead on the IMC at a cycle level

merry stirrup
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every h24 kit i see has higher vdd for the same or higher tcl than me unless its binned accordingly

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like obvi a h24m 1.45 c26 kit is a lower tcl/volts but still

topaz veldt
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the binning aside

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the actual math on the IMC is easier in binary

merry stirrup
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i am beginning to think this bios is no good like the people on the forum state

pure garnet
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why

merry stirrup
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twice now this has hit X amount of time of stability with no issue but then randomly restarts

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no error no nothing

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not even a bluescreen

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i think i may swap my bios switch

topaz veldt
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ARL

cosmic gazelle
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i'm sshing into your pc and restarting it sorry floppa

merry stirrup
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yeah something wong LOL

topaz veldt
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@turbid locust did you see I am like #2 (or was) in 3Dmark shit lol

turbid locust
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ya

topaz veldt
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funnay

turbid locust
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how much VDDIO is too much

pure garnet
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1.5v max

topaz veldt
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the OCF of turbo manifolds

pure garnet
topaz veldt
turbid locust
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fuck me

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bro not gonna lie I keep changing shit and it literally is the same result

merry stirrup
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okay im back on my last bios which has my profiles

turbid locust
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like ive touched so much shit and it still errors in like 2 mins

pure garnet
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which bios is that

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im on tul04 or whatever on my slot b

merry stirrup
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3.12.TL03

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TL04 is too sketchy for me to consider

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i dont think coolice was even the person that dropped it

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when i tried to modify it to see what was different it wouldnt extract like a normal bios

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like it was obfuscated or something

pure garnet
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oh

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can you send 03

merry stirrup
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yeah

topaz veldt
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guys do we think "IMC VDD" in HWINFO64 is "Memory Controller Voltage"?

merry stirrup
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yeah i think so

topaz veldt
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auto is running 1.5v

merry stirrup
turbid locust
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CHAT

topaz veldt
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hi

turbid locust
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my 9850X3D shipped

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supposedly arriving tomorrow

topaz veldt
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nice yo I can't wait for you to join me in wtfery

turbid locust
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I just put my H24M cudimms in my gene and it didnt immediately freak out... better than any other AM5 board i own

merry stirrup
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okay this is my "9000 getting there" profile

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lettuce begin

merry stirrup
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really enjoying using this oc setup

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it just makes me want to oc more which is diabolical

turbid locust
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first BSOD of the night boys

merry stirrup
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damn i had a few earlier messing around on am4

turbid locust
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9600x did NOT enjoy the 8200 XMP H24M

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i tried the XMP for fun lol

merry stirrup
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its a lot nicer than the kvm purely cause the latency is a lot nicer for something thats yknow still entirely local

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and i mean i have 2 entirely functional computers even with like speakers

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all i gotta do is move 1 cable if i wanna swap which one im using too for oc

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also whatever profile this is works just fine

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so it was either the bios or my settings

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but considering i was trying to make a conservative profile its just the bios

merry stirrup
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like its a program on my computer yknow

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can minimize it, do whatever on the side

turbid locust
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I cant tell if hardware genuinely bad or im just the worst overclocker to ever do it

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all I know is my head hurts

merry stirrup
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my chip needed 1.27 soc volts for 6000 so

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ryzen moment

turbid locust
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afaik 8000 isnt that uncommon

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and for a chip that will boot and bench 8300 like

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idk how 8000 just perma errors no matter what

merry stirrup
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yeah not really sure

snow plinth
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Are the Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA ATX case's included fans good enough to use out-of-box or would it just be better to get some on the side?

merry stirrup
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yeah

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no issue so far

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this is on 1.43sa volts though ig but its a more extreme profile

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and i just needed something to validate

topaz veldt
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Annnnnnnd Intel 200S loaded so I can just use this fucking thing

snow plinth
merry stirrup
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the latest bios on my board which does include a microcode update causes my known good 9000 chip not to do 9000

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is it the microcode or is it asrock

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you are on the latest microcode snail

pure garnet
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the imc is running below the speed of a 6000 setup

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
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pondering to do now

topaz veldt
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can you go back

merry stirrup
turbid locust
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like is gear 2 anything really just termination hell

merry stirrup
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i have a bios switch on my board

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because asrock fucking loves us

topaz veldt
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also have bios switch but dunno version on the other side

merry stirrup
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probs original retail

topaz veldt
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nah

merry stirrup
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voltages for that:

clear juniper
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Guys my zfold 7 came with a manufacturing defects tomorrow when I call Samsung support should I ask for a free storage upgrade from 512gb to 1tb

turbid locust
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man i really hope my 9850X3D does literally anything substantial without much trouble

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
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God damned the G9 Neo VA panel is bright

minor herald
topaz veldt
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I dunno why er'one is hung up on 6400 1:1

minor herald
pure garnet
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i mean it's basically the best speed you can run on a 2dpc board

clear juniper
minor herald
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highest in 1:1:x or 3:3:2 if lazzy

pure garnet
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yeah that's not how it works

merry stirrup
pure garnet
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you just get back what you send in for rma

turbid locust
clear juniper
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Damn not even worth trying

turbid locust
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it will likely get dailied at 6K

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I just want a cpu that does literally fucking anything cool

pure garnet
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my chip boots 8400 without any real trial and error

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do i try 8600 post on the mlg for giggles

minor herald
turbid locust
minor herald
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also you can get with cheap boards in 1;1

pure garnet
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you got the wrong audience here

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all of us own boards with ln2 switches on them

minor herald
turbid locust
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anyways at the moment I have two AM5 chips that dont do 8K daily, AM5 apu that doesnt do good fclk, ARL chip that doesnt 9K daily, and a RPL chip that doesnt do 8K daily

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we're so fucking up

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RNG trial and erroring terminations is not fun

merry stirrup
turbid locust
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especially when mfs dont even touch them and post videos of 180000 hours karhu stable

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bz hasnt touched a termination in his fucking life

pure garnet
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8600 doesn’t like my cpu if that makes you feel better

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or the mlg completely shit itself

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just a mem light and 00 code

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i didn’t try 1.15v vddp yet

merry stirrup
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again!! :DDD i love DDR5

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happens on my am4 board when i have bad terms, just wont even try to train

pure garnet
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if i need terms to boot it’s cope imo

turbid locust
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my z890 shit straight up tanks 8600 no hesi

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like it does not give a fuck it just goes

pure garnet
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i have 2 more dimm slots than u twin

merry stirrup
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it makes me very very happy that my memory wasnt the problem the entire time on z790 im just saying

turbid locust
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I just fucking have zero luck

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like you're telling me ALL my cpus are ass

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ALL of em.

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k

merry stirrup
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😭

pure garnet
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okay trying 1.15v vddp

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if this doesn’t work i’m loading my daily and getting off (if it does work i’m doing the same)

merry stirrup
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your 9k conservative profile begins

pure garnet
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nah it straight up shut off me rebooted now

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world first safe mode works?

turbid locust
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guarantee if I put ARL on the bench rn shit errors in 3 mins same settings as last night

merry stirrup
pure garnet
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wait that wasn’t safe mode

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i’m getting into windows at 8600

turbid locust
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I just dont find rng'ing terminations fun

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like that shit is not fun

merry stirrup
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its hard to find a way that works

pure garnet
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nvm msi straight up just resets without asking

merry stirrup
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i only know how to do terms on am4

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and its why i have been playing with ddr4

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literally i learned how to do better terms last night

pure garnet
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those auto timings are terrible

turbid locust
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because if I spend 3 hours tuning terminations to find out it was a voltage the whole time i will just explode and saw the board in half

merry stirrup
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terminations change the voltage relations

turbid locust
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thats like 99% of the reason this shit tilts me is because I'll do everything ive learned or read or watched or heard or was told and shit does not fucking change

merry stirrup
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1.3 soc at 43.6 proc odt may not work but 1.3 soc at 48 proc odt will ykwim

turbid locust
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im throwing shit at the wall

merry stirrup
turbid locust
merry stirrup
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i had the most luck in ddr4 by

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going to my absolute highest booted freq

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(so 4933)

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then fucking with my terms until 5000 booted

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(i also knew 5000 would boot because i bclked up from 4933 and it was fine)

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and i did in fact find a termination combo that let 5000 boot without bclk but it only worked like 3 times

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but by doing that my bclked 5000 stability went up

pure garnet
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yeah 8600 on my b850 you can watch the memory traces on doesn’t boot without touching anything

turbid locust
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i just dont understand how you're supposed to tune terms when it can be many wrong at once and youll never know stability improved because they all error

merry stirrup
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thats kinda my problem

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its probably possible to learn how to rule out certain values, i just dont know if X proc odt will always work if say RTTnom/park/wr is changed too

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and i mean ig i can test that

turbid locust
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I just dont know how you change something based of results that dont change

merry stirrup
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rule out stupid values then test the rest of them no matter how things change

turbid locust
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like floppa i just set about 15 terms and literally got the same 1:30-1:50 error every time

topaz veldt
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I want to sell all my shit and go to 9850X3D, 8000 CL38, SFF, and be done with it all.

turbid locust
merry stirrup
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i enjoy for the most part doing this type of stuff but im also not the sharpest tool in the shed at times so i get stumped

turbid locust
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I just hate dumping 4 hours into this shit for literally zero results

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We learned nothing. We achieved nothing. We did nothing.

cosmic gazelle
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@merry stirrup this is what it's come to

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only strategy that works

merry stirrup
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thats how i felt on z790 tbh

turbid locust
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remember when I was full crashing out over z790

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thats where we at with AM5 rn

merry stirrup
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neverliked am5 in the first place why do you think i said no to a gene and 9800x3d 😭

turbid locust
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like I can’t get a chip to do 8000 let alone 6400

merry stirrup
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or 7800x3d something like that

turbid locust
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It just fucks me up cause I really do like this hobby

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Like benching shit is fun finding the max of shit is fun

merry stirrup
turbid locust
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but when it’s literally fucking always lower than what seems to be average like fuck

merry stirrup
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i technically have 1 more chip i can fw i just dont like am5 man

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
slim pebble
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Nova lake 52 core will save us from AM5. Inshallah

merry stirrup
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3/4 of the people you talk to get chips/their hw sent to them

turbid locust
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like 2 hours Karhu stable 9K ARL is the most significant shit I’ve done in awhile and that’s sad

topaz veldt
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NVL better do 9000 or I am never going to Intel again

turbid locust
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I can’t remember the last time I had an actual impressive daily tune

slim pebble
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I don’t remember.

merry stirrup
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maybe not on the latest microcode lol

slim pebble
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Not even with the clock unbuffered stuff?

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
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I am so tired of this thing

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@merry stirrup do you even know how to disable CKD?

merry stirrup
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no i dont have cudimms lol

topaz veldt
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like is that fucking me up

merry stirrup
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i can look in the modified version of my bios and find out manually lol

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@pure garnet h16a profile finally cooks away

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(i slept the system on accident which is why hwinfo has been running longer than current karhu)

pure garnet
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oh just a d2d test

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fr fr

merry stirrup
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fr fr

merry stirrup
turbid locust
merry stirrup
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😭 send what you get its good enough, bro i send am4 screnshots LOL

topaz veldt
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half the fun is running wood screws through this fucking thing and then throwing it out my car on I95

merry stirrup
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or just ship it to floppa to see if its user error

turbid locust
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I just don’t care unless it’s daily drivable

topaz veldt
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I am going to ship it to Somalia

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
low sorrel
# merry stirrup mines 58

im so pissed i just lost a DVL with M993 + AVS chest rig + 3 day assault pack and a bastion helmet 😭

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tarkov racist

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by far my best kit :(

merry stirrup
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prolly stood still in a field for 14 minutes

low sorrel
merry stirrup
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i do not recommend bringing a boltie unless comitted to sniping especially without a secondary

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y boltie in 4 stack

low sorrel
slim pebble
merry stirrup
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trader screen: am i a joke to you

low sorrel
cosmic gazelle
topaz veldt
merry stirrup
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you are in a 4 stack jerry

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your 3 friends can buy you ammo/mags

low sorrel
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i feel bad

cosmic gazelle
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what if they’re all stupid and poor floppa

merry stirrup
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blind leading the blind

low sorrel
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one of the guys went from 24 mil rubles to 19 mil

cosmic gazelle
merry stirrup
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yeah it happens

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some of my kits are 700k rubles

turbid locust
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I think a 6600 sample would fix all my problems

cosmic gazelle
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99% of people never just full send long enough to hit 0

cosmic gazelle
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you can do a basic, foolproof loot run that will make a mil every 20 minutes if you’re being slow and not trying too hard

low sorrel
merry stirrup
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money means nothing even if youre insanely poor

topaz veldt
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Anyone want to buy a boat/

merry stirrup
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you do 2 money runs and youre back up

cosmic gazelle
merry stirrup
topaz veldt
merry stirrup
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LOL

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offer remains lmk

topaz veldt
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My wife was in the basement looking at decoration shit and found my secret stash of engine parts

cosmic gazelle
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i’ve never played with two or three people that didn’t allow at least one of us to survive at least 80% of the time lol

merry stirrup
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gotta sell a computer to floppa for 0$ to make up for it

low sorrel
merry stirrup
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or just a kit of ram ill take some ram

low sorrel
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floppa how many hours do i have

merry stirrup
#

43?

low sorrel
#

you

cosmic gazelle
#

@merry stirrup can we make jerry rush the labyrinth questline so we can watch him experience it for the first time

merry stirrup
low sorrel
pure garnet
#

i’m gonna fly floppa out so he can make 9k work on my cpu

cosmic gazelle
slim pebble
merry stirrup
#

nothing insane

#

mine is higher by 3

cosmic gazelle
#

kd includes scavs btw jerry

merry stirrup
#

mhm

low sorrel
#

yo pog my kd is above 1

cosmic gazelle
#

doesn’t mean anything

low sorrel
merry stirrup
#

i have 130 pmc kills in 200 raids

cosmic gazelle
#

honestly man for the first time you’ve ever played those stats aren’t horrendous

#

most people are around that or worse

merry stirrup
#

^

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telling you it literally takes 100-200 hours for the game to make any sense

topaz veldt
#

what do you think a 48GB 9000 CL42 Gskill CK kit is worth

merry stirrup
#

like how to position yourself how to fight etc

cosmic gazelle
#

and at least 1000 hours for lighthouse to make any sense

merry stirrup
#

hearing, allat

low sorrel
merry stirrup
#

your gun does not matter

low sorrel
#

they say sit their and wait

merry stirrup
#

your gear does not matter

merry stirrup
low sorrel
#

i just wanna fight and either kill em or die

cosmic gazelle
#

bro your teammates are a word dyno would send me a message for

merry stirrup
#

"i didnt hear u"

#

its just not very optimal for a new player to 4 stack period

slim pebble
merry stirrup
#

any more than a duo and you cant hear anything as well as being loud as shit

cosmic gazelle
#

you will probably survive more often by holding w and left click than by sitting there until you get shot

merry stirrup
low sorrel
merry stirrup
#

as a team you have to know how not to get yourself killed and as well as not get your teammates killed

cosmic gazelle
merry stirrup
#

well yeah

#

but hearing 3 other players at the same time doesnt help

cosmic gazelle
#

you have to be able to hear an enemy scrape the ground through the sound of your teammates running

#

which doesn’t happen for a long time lol

merry stirrup
#

no

merry stirrup
#

tarkov isnt amazing but generally the people who make it past the first slog love the game

#

its not user friendly period

#

the game however is the best in the genre

cosmic gazelle
#

or you could just hate yourself and keep running labrinth and dying like i did tonight

#

i did survive my last one tho and made like 5 mil

low sorrel
#

im so pissed i have an ak-101 and ammo for it

#

but i can't buy the mags lmao

merry stirrup
#

mags r cheap make ur homies bring you mags

#

@topaz veldt so is your shit still 9king or wat with the 1.35 vddq i dont remember

low sorrel
merry stirrup
#

yep

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

oh lol

topaz veldt
#

I might sell the whole setup tomorrow

low sorrel
#

i love how i picked bear and i don't have a single 5.45 ak left

merry stirrup
#

ewwww

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bro just fucked himself for lighthouse

topaz veldt
#

my kids just caught me up lol

merry stirrup
#

oop

topaz veldt
#

little weasels

#

its my son - my daughter went to my bed and just crashed (no one in it)

#

my son is smarter apparently

#

@merry stirrup I'll send you the HWS/FBM listing tomorrow

merry stirrup
#

lmfao im definitely not in a situation to be buying any of that 💀

low sorrel
merry stirrup
#

idk man usec cereum or whatever its called is pretty peak

#

drip epitome

low sorrel
#

floppa how many times did you tk when you were new

merry stirrup
#

i still do it now sometimes but a lot

low sorrel
#

i've done it 3 times so far

merry stirrup
#

W

#

free loot fr fr

#

take they ammo and shit

#

not like theyll get it back anyways

low sorrel
low sorrel
merry stirrup
#

fuck those guys

low sorrel
#

minus one bullet in each of the mags

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

if you seriously want me to test the ramzos we can try that 💀

topaz veldt
#

meh

merry stirrup
#

what kit is it? the 9K ZK gskill ?

low sorrel
#

how do i kill a guy with this helmet

#

i mag dumped his helmet

merry stirrup
#

🤯

#

legs dont have armor

#

should i program a 9000 42 xmp into my sticks for memes

#

lol the qvl for this kit is 3 boards

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

it would not surprise me if CK was butt

topaz veldt
#

@merry stirrup F5-9000C4256H24GX2-TZ5CRK

merry stirrup
#

yeah thats what im lookin at

#

the trcd seems insane for a h24m bin i wont lie

#

idk if itll actually do that

#

could be tweaking tho

topaz veldt
#

I have 6000 CL26 48GB, 6000 CL26 32Gb, 8000 CL40 48GB, and the 9000

#

Which should I try

merry stirrup
#

the 9's are what you use on z890?

topaz veldt
#

Yeah

merry stirrup
#

id use ur h16a

topaz veldt
#

Ok

#

Then I can try your settings

merry stirrup
#

exactly

topaz veldt
#

Tomorrow

merry stirrup
#

the ones im validating on equal/worse sticks

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
#

Word

#

I must retire

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
merry stirrup
#

thats kinda optimistic before i save it as a profile im gonna change it to 1.45 lol

#

oh its 1.5 actually

#

we good we good

#

@topaz veldt one more thing heres your microcode

turbid locust
#

my 9850X3D gets H16M and gear 1

merry stirrup
#

(garbage)

#

h16a my goat and its gonna end up like the s8b of d5 so we lit

#

quite confident in that

#

just waiting for competent imcs to do 10000 G2 on plain ol h16a

turbid locust
#

anyways I’m watching old BZ gear 1 AM5 videos to make myself feel better

merry stirrup
#

gotta learn the basics 📝

turbid locust
#

chat we have to update the gene bios I think

#

It’s on a May 2025 bios

merry stirrup
#

people were doing 8k long before that tho no?

turbid locust
#

Probably

#

but that doesn’t mean there wasn’t improvements via AGESA and shit

merry stirrup
#

hey mac

#

do you want the best am5 tuner's x670e h16a terminations

#

for the gene

#

what a ragebait question

#

here you go homie

turbid locust
#

that’s ragebait

merry stirrup
#

its dom's

turbid locust
#

It’s not gonna work for me

merry stirrup
#

lmao

turbid locust
#

it just won’t lmfao

merry stirrup
#

LOL

#

genuinely got me giggling

turbid locust
#

I’ll save the screenshot and try later today but like lol it’s not going to work

#

Is that even ambient

merry stirrup
#

says specificially "Correct firmware"

merry stirrup
#

0065 bios, is that a retail ver or oc?

#

has to be oc

turbid locust
#

from what I can tell that AGESA version is from early 2024

merry stirrup
#

yeah thats why it has to be an oc bios

turbid locust
#

like late 2023 early 2024

merry stirrup
#

this is the bios with the same agesa

turbid locust
#

mhm

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Pre Zen 5 bios lmao

merry stirrup
#

i am scraping info

#

seby basically says whatevers newer from what i can see idk

turbid locust
#

I see

#

I’m on 3003

#

3402 is latest

merry stirrup
#

you try messing with vmisc?

turbid locust
#

ya barely tho

#

I dropped it 50mv and it seemed to do something but idk

merry stirrup
turbid locust
#

what

merry stirrup
#

theres an oc bios for the gene

#

let me find the most recent one safedisk posted

teal kite
#

@merry stirrup has ram get him

turbid locust
#

why do I always think OC bios = LN2 bios lmao

teal kite
#

10,000 mt/s is freaking wild btw holy sh-

turbid locust
#

to boot

merry stirrup
#

idk on the asus form its listed as just a beta bios

teal kite
#

man gettings ddr6 speeds :p

merry stirrup
#

heres the 9k sanity profile

#

still goin stronk

teal kite
#

i don't even know if my ram kit can i know its M-die Hynix

merry stirrup
#

it cannot

teal kite
#

sad what die do you got?

merry stirrup
#

well do you have h24m or h16m

#

32gb or 48gb

teal kite
#

32

merry stirrup
#

yeah nope

teal kite
#

whats the max on those ?

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
teal kite
#

oooooo

merry stirrup
#

i know of literally one person so take that with a grain of salt

turbid locust
#

My H16M maxes at 6800

teal kite
#

idk how that would pair with the 9800x3d tho, won't be 1:1 on infin fab

merry stirrup
#

realistically somewhere between 6800 and 8000 is where you will max out

merry stirrup
#

boo not intel stinky

teal kite
#

thats what im at rn just really dailed in

teal kite
merry stirrup
#

not ram oced tho

teal kite
merry stirrup
#

booo

teal kite
#

yea.... i would of done like 8000 but bios wont allow it

#

not shouldered tho so can upgrade in 2064 when ddr5 is cheaper

merry stirrup
#

yeah

teal kite
#

i can feel ai is a bubble cause its hurting car industry

turbid locust
#

how will the dental floss industry bounce back from this

teal kite
#

lmaoooooo

#

deliding

turbid locust
merry stirrup
#

i think this config is good enough to ignore while i play a game for a little hwile

frank cypress
merry stirrup
#

truuue

#

im just happy i can double brain rot the oc and use my pc

frank cypress
#

at this point im just happy when my pc works

pallid marsh
low sorrel
#

@merry stirrup im so happy that i just tapped this level 43 fuck the armor and helmet i equipped

#

i love tarkov

#

best game

merry stirrup
valid roost
#

Youtube is very ultrawide friendly all of a sudden 😮

merry stirrup
valid roost
merry stirrup
#

arena is team based combat similar to cs or cod or something

#

base game is tarkov

valid roost
#

ty

lime panther
#

is the default fan curve good ? gpu was getting to 47 idle and fans dont spin before and this fixed it

merry stirrup
#

why do you want the fans to spin while the gpu does nothing?

#

your fix is more of a problem than a solution, nothing was wrong

lime panther
#

aint 47 idle too high a temp ?

merry stirrup
#

no. thats why the fans werent spinning

#

the fans usually start spinning at 50-60c

#

there is no bad idle temperature unless the pc is not being cooled in any state

#

basically what im saying is that theres only bad load temperatures, idle doesnt matter

lime panther
#

oh well, I'll keep it like that ain't a problem to be cool, and fans are cheap to replace if they break

#

thank you for information tho good sir

brisk jolt
#

i hate how a 9700x is more expensive than a 7500x3d here ugh

lime panther
#

7500x3d preformes better then the 9700x ?

brisk jolt
lime panther
#

oh

brisk jolt
#

I need better thermal capabilities and the 8 cores for his requirement

#

at this rate we’re going 7500X3D and 9060XT 16GB

lime panther
#

that would make a sick rig very nice

merry stirrup
#

3 hour

brisk jolt
#

alternatively if he wants to bomb… a 9800x3d is an option

minor herald
#

also why did you leave d2d at 2.1 ghz and NGU at 2.6ghz

#

also is that stock ring/core clocks?

merry stirrup
#

this is a sanity profile for others to use

minor herald
merry stirrup
#

n

karmic folio
#

n

merry stirrup
#

n

#

geeked up overclocking all night

minor herald
#

n^3

brisk jolt
#

whys ur trefi 98131

merry stirrup
#

why wouldnt it be

brisk jolt
#

am i missing something

merry stirrup
#

whats wrong with that

minor herald
karmic folio
merry stirrup
#

bz explains it in his 9000 265k video on my board but

karmic folio
merry stirrup
#

at 9000, 98kish refi = 65535 refi at 6000

minor herald
merry stirrup
#

i also dont think any higher would work

#

42c dimm temps

brisk jolt
merry stirrup
#

maybe i could go 131072 ig

#

but its pretty unimportant atp

brisk jolt
#

whats ur volts

merry stirrup
#

1.5 vdd

#

1.4 vddq

#

or do you mean like imc and allat

brisk jolt
#

sure

livid flame
merry stirrup
#

1.4 sa (but this board likes to overshoot a little)
1.4 cpu vddq
1.4 vdd2
1.4 vdd2mv

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
brisk jolt
#

acktually would h16a or h24m be better for intel g2

merry stirrup
#

yes

brisk jolt
#

lol

merry stirrup
#

raw freq h24m allegedly apparently

#

not in my own testing but others who are trusted within this server and out

#

(dont have h24m)

brisk jolt
#

my target’s a daily 8600C40

merry stirrup
#

doable on both if board is any good

#

rather h16a imo

brisk jolt
#

Im imagining if my guy gets a 9800x3d and doing 6400 outta the box

#

another stray thrown at mac

merry stirrup
#

me?

brisk jolt
#

no a friend wanting to build a pc

merry stirrup
#

ah 💀

brisk jolt
#

ram pricing is iffy but ill hook him up with a doable price combo

merry stirrup
#

home recently just got h16a for 200$

brisk jolt
#

a 9800x3d wont feel right with a 9060XT but like… x3d and 8 core while having good thermals theres no other option on the table

#

ultimately its his decision

merry stirrup
#

any chip in eco mode ;)

brisk jolt
#

i might have him fall back to a 7700 in that case actually

#

i forgot theres eco mode lmaoaoa

merry stirrup
#

7700 should just do it

#

i think non x has 65w tdp just dont enable pbo

#

65w was doable on a 20 year old stock cooler making a tiddlywink of contact

#

wasnt even a screw in

#

clip on cooler

brisk jolt
#

7700x is like 100sg more over non x

merry stirrup
#

not worth

brisk jolt
#

yeah

#

if he wants i can prob cook a pbo uv

merry stirrup
#

lol

brisk jolt
#

+200 -30CO instant crash

merry stirrup
#

that is what im talkin about

brisk jolt
#

my 9800x3d could do that at the cost of being buns at the imc

low sorrel
#

Bro I just shit myself when I saw "your steam account jerry =iwal= has been signed out"

#

Turns out it's just a bug

livid flame
#

iwal?

merry stirrup
#

tm5 done time for ycruncher

#

only gonna do an hour of this since this profile really isnt allat

low sorrel
#

I used to have my name as my real first name and last name before I changed it to jerry =iwal= because my friend was tom =iwnl= and i thought it would be the funniest thing when i was 10

#

haven't changed it since

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
#

@prisma schooner

#

youre not the right kyoko whoa re you

#

@pure garnet

topaz veldt
#

@merry stirrup share some soft settings I can use against my H16A 6000 CL26 kit @ 9000

merry stirrup
#

screenshots above

merry stirrup
#

i let that go for 4 hours karhu 2.5 hours yc

topaz veldt
#

yah but thats pretty tight

#

im going for "does it even work" mode

merry stirrup
#

nah it’s 1.5v vdd

merry stirrup
#

600 rfc

#

whatever refi you feel today

topaz veldt
#

67

merry stirrup
#

also

#

i am moderately confident trcd does actually scale with volts

#

on h16a

topaz veldt
#

@merry stirrup what volts should i start with, 9000 42-58-58-128

#

H16A kit

merry stirrup
#

1.45-1.5 vdd
im at 1.4 vddq (both cpu and mem) and that works for me

topaz veldt
#

i'll auto all the SA shit maybe

#

just did terminations and saved that as a baseline profile

merry stirrup
#

all im saying is 9000 c34

topaz veldt
#

stahp

#

1.7v

merry stirrup
#

lol

#

i didn’t try 1.7 it’s at 1.8

topaz veldt
#

oooof

#

I am in Windows w/H16A

merry stirrup
#

yeah

topaz veldt
#

errors in 5 sec

merry stirrup
#

DAMN

topaz veldt
#

I should have kept my 265k

#

I suspect CPU

#

Apparently 285Ks are not as fun with high mem

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
#

it was all gone

topaz veldt
#

lol

merry stirrup
#

restart it’s happy tho

#

i’ll try c32 and i’ll be disappointed

topaz veldt
#

auto voltages, DIMM VDD 1.45 DIMM VDDQ 1.35, 40 secs in Karhu so far

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
#

1 min 5 sec

merry stirrup
#

not bad

#

what’s the record recently

topaz veldt
#

im not even sure

merry stirrup
#

the bar is low

topaz veldt
#

ground level

merry stirrup
brisk jolt
#

flops youve been up for like the past 9 hours tf

topaz veldt
#

It autos VCCSA to 1.42-1.43

merry stirrup
#

probs 1.4 with vrm overshoot

#

basically what mine does, it’s set 1.4 but i saw as high as 1.424

topaz veldt
#

4 mins 15 sec

merry stirrup
brisk jolt
#

stop ur directly encouraging me to try 9000 too KEKW

merry stirrup
#

9k is for demons

#

i personally want more

#

i did get a near 2x from rated oc on ddr4 though that was epic

topaz veldt
#

error at 6 min 4 secs 🙁

merry stirrup
#

took this green+red stick to 5100

brisk jolt
#

ill work my way up to 8600 and see how

topaz veldt
#

This has to be CPU at this point Flops

merry stirrup
#

that’s vdd2?

#

what’s*

topaz veldt
#

vdd2 is which again

merry stirrup
#

mc

devout ridge
#

reformatting 24 drives is slow

topaz veldt
#

1.42v IMC

devout ridge
#

it's still going

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
#

to 1.45?

merry stirrup
#

1.45+

topaz veldt
#

i'll try

devout ridge
#

in 3-4 days my drives will be formatted...

oak vector
#

Think I’ve had enough of tc1 for tonight

merry stirrup
#

pretty sure i’m at

1.4 vddq cpu and mem
1.4 sa (overshoots)
1.45 vdd2

#

i can look since i’m not testing yet

topaz veldt
#

@merry stirrup 1.46 VDD2 and OS crashed

oak vector
#

I think my block list grows every day I interact with tc1
Kinda funny

merry stirrup
#

yeah your cpu dont do it

topaz veldt
#

yeah

merry stirrup
#

since it boots 9000 id imagine 8800 max

#

baffled. it can post 36-50

#

wow 48 rcd

devout ridge
#

snail this would indicate a successful format right?

topaz veldt
#

did it report the 520 or whatever prior

devout ridge
#

I believe so, yes

topaz veldt
#

ok cool

merry stirrup
#

ok well heres my new silly profile so far

devout ridge
merry stirrup
#

unsurprisingly 46 rcd didnt post at 9000

frank zealot
#

This is possibly the dumbest case design ever:

#

"Here, you can dual mount 360mm AIOs in the worst possible setup for the standard pump design. GOOD LUCK!"

#

here's how a PC goes in the top:

devout ridge
#

going from 512gb to 64gb is so depressing

#

my 512gb NAS is so jank tho, legit 2 standoffs are in, the PSU is floating, and half the dimm slots for one CPU is dead

lime panther
#

To put those screws back in, I had to push the gpu a little, is that bad ?

devout ridge
#

not really

#

not everything is perfectly square, so a small amount of having to "force" things into place i sokay

lime panther
#

I thought it bent but it don't look like it

frank zealot
frank zealot
robust bough
#

any 3d printer guys in here ?

hoary hatch
#

Nobody here owns a 3d printer

#

None of us

frank zealot
#

The term "3d printer guys" is pretty useless as a description

robust bough
#

i looking to get enclosed one have FlashForge 5m now with in the next year or so want to upgrade to a better open or encloesed one

#

im thinking P1S ?

frank zealot
robust bough
#

DAMN what case You need a dam house LOL

frank zealot
#

Do you want multi-color?

robust bough
#

yeah i have single now it will work for the next year or so only payed $125 usd for it

#

juts dont wnat one where i have issues and just want auto everything

robust bough
#

i dont mind manully setting setup after first time but auto after that

frank zealot
#

Doesn't exist

robust bough
#

how not i have not had to anything to my 5m

hoary hatch
#

Hmm, 180mm fans for radiator
Wonder how good the static pressure is

frank zealot
robust bough
#

I print RC parts lol

frank zealot
#

If all you're printing is bullshit print-in-place fidget things or something?
It probably doesn't matter.

Bambu is the most plug-and-play solution currently out.

robust bough
#

How about a high-end creality?

frank zealot
#

creality is for tinkerers

topaz veldt
#

My CR-10 Smart Pro has been good

#

but it was an expensive printer at the time

robust bough
#

I prob just Bambu p1s or do get p2s

topaz veldt
#

H2S

robust bough
#

I want to be at that $399 to $450 range

frank zealot
#

.... that's barely an A1 Combo

#

The P2S Combo is 800 bucks

strange ginkgo
#

got a wierd problem right now
windows is telling me I'm offline (no ethernet cable connected) and using ping i can't reach stuff but my browser works just fine including this browser window that has discord 👀

frank zealot
#

do you have a VPN Software installed/running?

strange ginkgo
#

nope

frank zealot
#

cmd --> ipconfig /all

strange ginkgo
#

seems normal to me

frank zealot
#

why two different 192 addressess on 2 nics

#

can you ping: 192.168.0.1

strange ginkgo
#

not working

#

no timeout just nothing the command is still running

robust bough
strange ginkgo
#

I'll just restart and that will likely fix it but I've never seen that before

frank zealot
robust bough
hoary hatch
hoary hatch
#

Trust me
As a P1S "oh I don't need the ams" person who later bought an AMS; just get the combo

robust bough
#

i am a Swerd Negtiaer someone will be selling on FB maerket and get Hell of a deal on ams

hoary hatch
#

I haven't seen any in my local market but every place is different

robust bough
#

i am talking $250 MORE DOLLAER

hoary hatch
frank zealot
hoary hatch
#

🌧️⛈️🌧️

frank zealot
#

Also the AMS 2 Pro w Hub? Get yourself 8 filaments in your printer at once. Fuck yeah!

hoary hatch
#

Well I won't argue they should get the multi ams hub

#

But AMS 2 Pro is so nice

#

And the P2S has QoL upgrades

#

So recommend P2S AMS2 Pro combo :)

#

I should get a bambu referral code

strange ginkgo
pure garnet
#

workstations

placid swift
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Why is my memory training taking so long

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How do I tell of my ram is cooked

shell void
pure garnet
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with pbo off

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it’s essential

strange ginkgo
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i got a 360*360 radiator and yes it does manage to cool my 5800x3d

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i just don't see why you want it as an AIO

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it doesn't fit inside the case and if it's outside the case the tube lenght might be too short for what you need

brisk jolt