#tech-chat-2

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steel stream
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huge news for the program

turbid locust
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Looking forward to your PBO results. Skatterbencher was able to do +200 boost override

shell void
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i gotta chuck my 9800X3D directly into the nearest waste receptacle

manic sigil
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Sell it for 1$

turbid locust
devout ridge
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2 SATA SSDs as a metadata cache will still accelerate HDDs a bit right?

manic sigil
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One HDD or more?

devout ridge
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24 HDDs

shell void
manic sigil
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Yes

steel stream
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brotato chip

devout ridge
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well it’s gonna be 20 rn for testing, but 24 as the final deployment

devout ridge
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4 more drives are in the mail to replace the 600gb drives i received so all the drives will be the same capacity

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i’m doing redundant boot drives too, i’m being safe for once!

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i’ll probably do 4 raid z2 vdevs with 5 drives each for testing rn, then switch to 6 drive vdevs later

manic sigil
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Just configured SSD's as cache

devout ridge
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not gonna move data onto it rn, i’ll just remake the pool entirely when i get the new drives

devout ridge
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the 20/24 drives are in a JBOD and the SATA SSDs are onboard the head unit

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dual 256gb ssds for boot, dual 512gb ssds for metadata

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probably just gonna be a mirror for the metadata SSDs

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or does it matter if i lose that data

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still booting, but it looks like it detected most if not all the JBOD drives

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so that’s a relief, at least my HBA and cables work together properly

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i did 100% copy some dude off reddit who did something super similar

fervent chasm
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Were you testing laptops

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I see those G7s

leaden dawn
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How often do you want a cpu

devout ridge
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okay all drives are detected, i just need to reformat the block size

turbid locust
turbid locust
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ok standard hwbot user

topaz veldt
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yup

turbid locust
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I don’t believe shit till 3 hours

topaz veldt
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that's ok - I can tell this will be fine

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but I 6400 1:1 no prob

turbid locust
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my second 9800X3D always errored after 10 mins

topaz veldt
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I can feel this ones aura, it will run no prob

turbid locust
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if I get a shitter can we trade? You need to be humbled

pure garnet
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you should’ve let me order

turbid locust
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The benefit of day one is I’m not getting someone’s reject bin

pure garnet
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i have a 100% success rate of zen 5 6400 1:1 2133fclk samples

devout ridge
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yall know how to reformat the block size with truenas? i tried doing it through shell with the command "sg_format --format --size=512 /dev/sdab" and it just says permission denied

topaz veldt
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you have to do it when creating a vdev/pool

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try sudo in front

devout ridge
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The drives don't appear in the selection options when creating a pool, but are detected in the disks list, just listed as 0B since they're currently formatted as a 520 bit block size

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adding sudo to the front seemed to work, thank you

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It counted down warning that it would wipe all the data on that drive, then said "Format unit has started"

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2% done

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imma be here a while

topaz veldt
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yeah but it might fuck up the pool after

devout ridge
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no existing pool

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wouldn't let me select the drives to even try creating a pool

topaz veldt
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that's weird

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oh shit are you fugging with EMC drives or something

devout ridge
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Seagate drives that were used in a NETAPP system

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1.2tb SAS

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TrueNAS doesn't like 520bit block size HDDs

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nor does any other software except the netapp shit for that matter

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is it possible to do multiple drives at once?

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if so, how?

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i’m disinclined to wait an entire day for the drives to reformat

turbid locust
brisk jolt
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Even I have a 6200 sample like dawg

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im currently reinstalling windows bcs I did a oopsie fuckup xd

brisk jolt
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i fucking hate how many prompts windows makes you go through ugh

turbid locust
turbid locust
# topaz veldt

hm that’s weird. Took 30 mins for karhu to get to 11 mins? trollface

pure garnet
pure garnet
turbid locust
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I’m praying on his downfall he needs to be humbled

topaz veldt
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I was trying for 1.4

steel stream
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5nail I think you have to livestream your karhu

topaz veldt
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I am on PBO +200 CO -20 all core @turbid locust

turbid locust
topaz veldt
brisk jolt
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idk if i cooked something with that 1.55v funny

topaz veldt
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1.55 won't cook at hing

hollow temple
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There was a script Jake ran to change the block size I thought

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When he got the rack off FB

topaz veldt
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would you need to exclude the OS drives?

hollow temple
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I would imagine his Os isn’t stored on Rust

topaz veldt
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don't imagine anything

hollow temple
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And he’s just using the shelf as its own pool

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TruNas on Rust

topaz veldt
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and it doesn't matter what they're stored on if I gave him a one liner to do for $i in /dev it's formatting the OS

brisk jolt
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great it now doesnt wanna load into windows again -_-

wraith steeple
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Imagine Bitspower and MSI

topaz veldt
brisk jolt
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I do have a save point on my first install but something is corrupting it

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im sussing the pcie riser gen 4 and mobo gpu gen 5 fuckery

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wont know till i try

hoary hatch
steel stream
brisk jolt
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it was indeed the PCIE gen

fervent chasm
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peoples, i need your help

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choose a country for me to play in hoi4

shell void
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i got so hype about this laptop until i learned it has a matte display

edgy laurel
topaz veldt
green marsh
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reflective display is what i hate the most on the macbook

shell void
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if you like matte then this laptop is awesome

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panther lake, classy chassis, 1400nit tandem oled

green marsh
frank estuary
green marsh
shell void
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well i mean you can get a matte glass screen from apple, or put a cheaper protector on yourself

green marsh
turbid locust
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But like that’s the machine for the price rn unless you absolutely need windows

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I understand why microcenter doesn’t ship but man if they did… chefkiss

topaz veldt
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You know whats funny too?

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You can't use their credit card online

cosmic gazelle
devout ridge
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All of the drives i want to avoid are SSDs, all the drives i want to format are HDDs

low sorrel
devout ridge
low sorrel
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Can these fuckass people learn to drive someone crashed their car and my power is out

fervent chasm
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I tried to go democratic unhistorical and fight the Germans

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It failed

topaz veldt
devout ridge
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OS is mirrored Sata SSDs

topaz veldt
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@devout ridge I don't want to throw you a 1 liner and ruin your shit

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Some would argue SSDs are worse

devout ridge
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no data on the system, ruin away

topaz veldt
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SSDs give basically zero heads up they're failing

devout ridge
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worst case i reinstall the OS from scratch

topaz veldt
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for dev in /dev/sd[a-z]*; do sudo sg_format --format --size=512 "$dev"; done

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but like... OS is going to be in there

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do you know what devices are your root devices

devout ridge
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as in the boot devices?

topaz veldt
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right

devout ridge
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SDAV+SDAT

topaz veldt
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ok hang on

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little bleep little bloop

devout ridge
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there's also 2 additional SSDs that i plan on using as a metadata cache SDAX + SDAW if that matters

topaz veldt
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for dev in /dev/sd[a-z]*; do [[ "$dev" == "/dev/sdav" || "$dev" == "/dev/sdat" ]] && continue; sudo sg_format --format --size=512 "$dev"; done

devout ridge
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so that entire message copy paste into the shell?

topaz veldt
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yup, one-liner

devout ridge
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Thank you kindly, i'll report back if it works or blows up

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include the "; done" part right?

topaz veldt
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it says that if dev == /dev/sdav OR /dev/sdat then "continue" -- but otherwise run sg_format for sda-z

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whole thing - you might need to tweak it ij ust kinda mashed shit together from other shit

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might need to change the first part to /dev/sda[a-z]

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depends on partitioning/etc.

devout ridge
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Says Format unit has started

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Am i able to navigate to other parts of the web ui, or does it need to stay open

topaz veldt
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you are doing it thru webui?

devout ridge
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Mhm

topaz veldt
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rofl brother

devout ridge
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Is it better to do it directly?

topaz veldt
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yeah that would have been an ssh session

devout ridge
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is it fine to use IDRAC to directly access the server

topaz veldt
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sure

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not preferred but it works

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had to paste into drac

devout ridge
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linux shell or truenas cli shell

topaz veldt
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linux

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that is a bash script above

frank estuary
devout ridge
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okay worked in the linux shell, now we wait

wise bear
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ya girl got a FUCKIN DEAL on weed today

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a full oz for $70

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of TOP SHELF

wise bear
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omg hi mac'n'cheese

cosmic gazelle
wise bear
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thats me now

fervent chasm
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havent laughed that hard in a while

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its such a fucking stupid thing to laugh at too

cosmic gazelle
fervent chasm
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no but it reminds me of the one with the guy with the long ass forehead

topaz veldt
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I love running benchmarks on like 7 hour old hardware

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taking all those #2 slots lol

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also NO ONE rushed out and bought 9850X3Ds

fervent chasm
fervent chasm
cosmic gazelle
fervent chasm
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bro im still stuck on 93rd

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its moving slow af

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i wanna get this ram fixed so i can sell it

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or use it and sell the other ram

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we shall see

leaden dawn
topaz veldt
cosmic gazelle
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wait did you guys know there’s a 5gb quadro p2200 that performs roughly the same as an gtx 970?

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it’s single slot

steel stream
pure garnet
turbid locust
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I’m like 90% sure Asus sent him one early and he LN2’d it

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Oh you mean 3dmark

fervent scaffold
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$325 usd for a 3080. Sound reasonable to grab?

turbid locust
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mid

fervent scaffold
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Gigabyte vision 3080

cosmic gazelle
frank zealot
fervent scaffold
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Unfortunately

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But its for the wife so, not stressed about have 2 extra gb lol

topaz veldt
topaz veldt
fringe vigil
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snail you seen video

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funny

turbid locust
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Office installed on the home pc is based asf

topaz veldt
turbid locust
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brother LMAO

topaz veldt
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I gotta get those invoices

turbid locust
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I cannot believe I have to wait till Sunday for my funny cpu

cosmic gazelle
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stats would be manufacturer claimed 0-60

cosmic gazelle
edgy laurel
shell void
edgy laurel
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In that case, let them keep doing it. Cheaper displays for people lol

shell void
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eh newegg only drops like $50 off the price and refuses returns on open box items

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this does seem like it would be noticeable in regular use

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those are very sharp columns

topaz veldt
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@turbid locust I have to restart on this heap

edgy laurel
turbid locust
shell void
turbid locust
topaz veldt
turbid locust
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mine aren’t

topaz veldt
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asrock timing config versions

turbid locust
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I use the one you sent me iirc

topaz veldt
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yeah I went newer

turbid locust
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Ah lol

topaz veldt
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was having issues with something on the older version

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I think

turbid locust
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Also is that a Karhu wrapper or something I see that a lot

topaz veldt
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you move the .dll from karhu over

turbid locust
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I see I’ll have to look into it

topaz veldt
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1.5 VDD 1.45 vddq

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Sometimes I think about having kept that 265K

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its definitely easier/more likely to run high DIMM speeds

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oh nice I backed this up at least

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Its funny though - 8600 CL38 is like 8.8ns

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but it doesn't have the allure of 9000 CL40-42

turbid locust
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real

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I kinda need to stop going for daily tunes on z890 when I have no intention of ever dailying that platform lmao

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9000 two hours karhu? Time to go higher and benchmark

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Need to embrace that bench stable life lol

topaz veldt
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the prob is that if its only karhu stable for like 10 mins it can often have lower scores due to errors

fringe vigil
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mother

wraith steeple
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Tell your children not to walk my way

frank zealot
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Someone tell me what doesn't add up in this listing

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@merry stirrup

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.... i'm sorry, you're asking what for this?

wraith steeple
shell void
cosmic gazelle
frank zealot
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yup.

If that was actually a working B650 for 50$? I'd have considered it

cosmic gazelle
wraith steeple
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My 48 gig kit now costs over $600 USD

frank zealot
wraith steeple
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And the Ripjaws that is in my LGA 1851 rig is edging closer to a grand

frank zealot
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jesus shit:

wraith steeple
frank zealot
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originally paid:

wraith steeple
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yep $920 USD...... fuuuuuuuuuuuck

topaz veldt
frank zealot
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48? 64?

wraith steeple
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6400 CL32 64GB

frank zealot
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looking elsewhere, this 32gb kit is still over 500 soimehow

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wtf

wraith steeple
topaz veldt
frank zealot
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is it worth buying a R5 5600 for 90$ to upgrade my HTPC system?

Currently R7 3700x

vestal granite
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why buy ram when you can buy a 2005 honda CRV which now technically qualifies as an antique vehicle

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or is it 25 yrs for antique

turbid locust
vestal granite
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either way antique cars are in the 2000s now and we're all slowly approaching our death

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this is antique

frank zealot
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the price delta from the 5500 to the 5600(x/xt/other) family is so absurdly huge

turbid locust
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Tavern by Netherwalker. Trust. linusSmirk

tight birch
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my pc specs are 12600k , gigabyte b660 ds3h ax ddr4 mobo, ram 32gb ddr4 adata 3600mt/s, rtx 4060 gpu
pc goes black screen while playing games or running unreal otherwise works fine
tried full fresh windows install all driver updates several times

frank zealot
tight birch
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but it only happens while gaming bcz when i runs furmark or other benchmarks it runs fine

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still can it be psu ??

frank zealot
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potentially yeah.
Gaming causes transient spikes higher than furmark will make

tight birch
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cuz my psu is 450 watt corsair

frank zealot
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that sounds sketch af

odd sable
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furmark is higher average, but more steady

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CX450?

frank zealot
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there ain't no good 450w psu's

odd sable
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there are worse ones though

frank zealot
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sure, but.... damn

harsh sail
# frank zealot originally paid:

I got pny xlr8 2x 16GB 6400MT/s cl36 (which I got for amd cpu all the way down to 6000MT/s cl30 stress tested well but havent tried lower) for 90 dollars and similar deal is now 350

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Got it two months into ram shortage warning and one week before prices actually affected

tight birch
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can someone suggest a good budget psu

cosmic gazelle
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you get what you pay for for the most part

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corsair doesn’t make psus that are gonna blow up though so bronze is fine

cosmic gazelle
fringe vigil
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chips

daring mauve
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Why are prices so much higher. Is it bc of Ai?

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Thx God i upgraded my pc before these price hikes

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$729 for my ram now wtf

shell void
daring mauve
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You have to be insane to buy now, yikes!

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The ram is more than my cpu at the time

turbid locust
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@merry stirrup @pure garnet got the Gene today and found out it has lore

pure garnet
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oh? whats the gene lore

turbid locust
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It was imported from China, because it was owned by Jiacheng

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I did not know this before today lol

topaz veldt
shell void
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what are the odds that there's a ryzen CPU in that suitcase that is a better bin than what Mac has

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<@&750150305383186585> crypto bot account

turbid locust
topaz veldt
shell void
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as long as it wasn’t from amazon

brave panther
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lots of bp's there

south shuttle
turbid locust
brave panther
shell void
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(it makes zero difference)

turbid locust
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Amazon is cheapest for me and fastest shipping

shell void
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valid

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amazon has always been extremely lenient with returns and quickly reimburses me so im partial to buying from there as well

turbid locust
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I feel like I’m one large return from getting my account nuked lmao

shell void
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i returned my aorus fv43u after having it for like 96 days, they didnt even make me pay a restock fee, and i had the money in my checking account the day that i shipped the monitor

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bezos spoils me

brisk jolt
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I found my issue which was causing blackscreens- its weird bcs it only started after that bad RAM

turbid locust
frank zealot
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Holy shit

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Dual 5090 Threadripper? 18K? Fuuuuuuck

south shuttle
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the ram

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and nvme

indigo helm
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Dual 5090s I’ll take😊

south shuttle
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3975wx with 5090 strange combo

indigo helm
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I already have 32gb ddr4 I got for 55$ back in July 2025 ish

wraith steeple
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I see a Phanteks Elite 👁️

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oh nope nvm its a 719

brisk jolt
turbid locust
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The Las Vegas sphere has 7TB of ram. Who’s tryina do a heist with me?

brisk jolt
shell void
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they better send you a good bin or else face retribution

turbid locust
brisk jolt
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mac on his way to set 6400 2133 (it isnt daily stable)

young vapor
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Does anyone recognize which lian li case this is exactly

dusty lotus
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i love when uhhh e waste runs latest software i mean how do i put 25h2

livid flame
livid flame
brisk jolt
dusty lotus
shell void
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anything that can run windows 10 can also run windows 11

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the new requirements are soft locks that are very easily bypassed

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windows 11 is just windows 10 with a new ui and a few features stapled on

devout ridge
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you can run win11 like that, but you're locked out of major updates without a complete reinstall afaik

young vapor
livid flame
# dusty lotus ever heard of rufus

It allows you to install it. However iirc windows update on newer versions checks hardware against a list and doesn’t install the new update. So you can only update so far.

edgy laurel
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logic for finding it:

Pic has a clear cut basement, probably a LANCOOL
lian li lancool into google images. keep scrolling till I see this edge pattern

young vapor
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Yeah I kept coming up with Lancool but the older ones weren’t showing up

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I’m buying it for 350 on Facebook and was curious if my current GPU would fit lmao

edgy laurel
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you're buying the case for 350? 350 what?

dusty lotus
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there is a way to install newer versions on unsupported

young vapor
edgy laurel
young vapor
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Well it’s not turning on that’s why. But the guy has no idea how PCs work and it’s misconfigured in a few ways I can already see lol

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It turns on then off right away

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They didn’t list the PSU at all, and they said “no hard drive” and I don’t think they have any idea that m.2 goes under that shroud

edgy laurel
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could be a number of things. funky wiring and a short somewhere will often behave like that

young vapor
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Yeah hoping it’s just simple

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My GPU is very overkill for it but if it fits it’s better than using it as an egpu for my handheld lmao

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Even though my handheld has much better cpu performance

young vapor
arctic bronze
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yeah

livid flame
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I just came across this terrible priced system on fb marketplace lol

merry stirrup
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this implies jia has something better than a gene

placid swift
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X + ASUS Prime B550M-A WiFi II AMD Micro ATX $95
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 $300
RAM: 16 GB (2×8 GB) $40
Power Supply: ASUS 650 W 80+ Bronze $60

Total:$495

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Chat did I cook

topaz veldt
cosmic gazelle
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you could build that NEW for less

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a far better system in fact

turbid locust
cosmic gazelle
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@livid flame should dm that guy that a brand new 225f 5050 system would cost $70 less lmao

merry stirrup
cosmic gazelle
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floppa

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were you familiar with the 5gb quadro p2200

merry stirrup
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no but the naming implies its probably just a 1060

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yeah its a 1060

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g5x though, smaller bus

cosmic gazelle
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still pretty interesting, also doesn’t require external power

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and is true single slot

merry stirrup
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if im buying true single slot give me like a quadro rtx 4000 for 200$

turbid locust
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This is what peak looks like

merry stirrup
wraith steeple
brisk jolt
turbid locust
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dedicated probe points is actually cool as fuck ngl

merry stirrup
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yah

turbid locust
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Where is my multimeter lmao

pure garnet
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does the apex even have those

wraith steeple
turbid locust
pure garnet
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i dont see em

merry stirrup
pure garnet
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where

merry stirrup
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holes above the 24 pin

pure garnet
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oh

shell void
uncut owl
shell void
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i hope there’s a z990 gene

pure garnet
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the ones the case comes with is fine

pure garnet
# merry stirrup

okay in my defense how the hell was i seeing these at a quick glance

uncut owl
pure garnet
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why would it not be

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like they're not super marked

merry stirrup
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holes on board like that = probe points

uncut owl
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idk maybe its propaganda but a bunch of ppl reccomending 4-5+

pure garnet
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i mean if you want em buy em

uncut owl
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but like would it help

merry stirrup
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funnily enough, my cheap garbage rx 570 has probe points labeled

pure garnet
merry stirrup
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my favorite asus card

turbid locust
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This is for sure the coolest board I have atm

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And it’s about to get an AMD stock cooler put on it LMAO

pure garnet
turbid locust
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no

pure garnet
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cursed

turbid locust
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all you need for mem oc (and it’s really convenient to swap between boards)

pure garnet
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@merry stirrup i opened the apex listing again and the dudes last feedback is that he's super firm on the price for his other listings too

slim pebble
hexed karma
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have a 7600x3d what'll be the upgrade path if i want more cores

junior slate
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Has anyone got any recommendations for somewhat decently priced 2tb ssd? I was going to go with a Seagate Firecuda 530, but from what im seeing a lot with a few google searches is that they fail after only a few months. I dont want to forking out around £200 for it to fail pretty fast

low sorrel
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@merry stirrup45 surivies in a row???

turbid locust
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This gene has the fastest cold boot ram training ive seen on AM5

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deadass from a cmos clear it was MAYBE 20 seconds to post

edgy laurel
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code 15 has always been 15-20 seconds for me. the only fast part about my boots

pure garnet
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it's about a minute on my waifu board

turbid locust
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gene cmos clear to post was about the same speed as mpower MCR boot

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oh my god it has the peak

brisk jolt
turbid locust
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i am becoming an asus glazer im ngl

brisk jolt
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shit took 7 business days to memtrain istg

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idk how or why but my bios went looking like 720p to 1440p out of the blue

cosmic gazelle
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no one on pvp survives that much

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he’s also got an insanely low amount of xp for the raids he’s done

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looks like a guy who’s just esping the best loot off the map while not killing people to avoid getting noticed

turbid locust
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@merry stirrup does the gene know something we dont....? Whats wrong with this screenshot lol

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other than it being super blown out cause HDR funny

cosmic gazelle
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personally i set my trefi to 16383.76 ns but that’s just me

brisk jolt
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ok nice

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so ur trefi is slower than a grandma

turbid locust
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ok it power cycled lol

turbid locust
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but what I was talking about is that it set tRFC so tight

cosmic gazelle
brisk jolt
cosmic gazelle
turbid locust
brisk jolt
cosmic gazelle
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dude @merry stirrup that latitude i bought from goodwill shipped to me for $26 is immaculate and had ram and the drive still

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this might be the best deal i've ever gotten

pure garnet
turbid locust
pure garnet
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thats p fire

turbid locust
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its not lol

pure garnet
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is that the floor for that ic

turbid locust
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floor is generally considered to be 120ns

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it can go slightly lower if you're lucky depending on the kit lol

pure garnet
#

yeah i wonder if thats like the absolute floor

#

the ocf profiles suck though

#

apex is tempting but my interest in it cycles

merry stirrup
#

just evc'ed an entire gpu (the 570) only for it not to have the voltage controller the internet said it has

turbid locust
#

pog

merry stirrup
#

love that for me

#

not even supported man

turbid locust
#

im working on a low effort 8000 tune on the 9600x based on the gene profile + bz reference video on the Hero

brisk jolt
pure garnet
#

i think what i'll do is do a quick dity 6000 setup on my h16a

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and throw h24m in ocf for the long term

cosmic gazelle
#

like lemme tell ya for $25 you’d think this thing had never been used before

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if it doesn’t thermal throttle i’m not even gonna take the cover off

turbid locust
#

this looks higher effort than it is

merry stirrup
#

apparently on bz's force doing 8300, VDDP was what helped him the whole time

turbid locust
#

oh it errored pretty quick loooooool

brisk jolt
#

macbin macbin

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“mac how many shit amd bins have you gotten”

they’re 2 they’re 4 they’re 6 they’re 8

turbid locust
#

we raise vddq and vddio

turbid locust
merry stirrup
#

we love confirmed good hardware

turbid locust
#

this chip boots 8400 lol

merry stirrup
#

thats why im so content with the ocf i just sit down and know i have a peak sample

turbid locust
#

without touching terms

merry stirrup
#

on wat

turbid locust
#

mpower

merry stirrup
#

ah

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well terms r going to be different across them so be weary

turbid locust
#

yur

merry stirrup
#

maybe using mpower auto terms isnt a bad idea if you dont have any luck

#

from what i know terms are all board/stick based so i mean like worth a shot

#

long as its the same sticks

#

im still not totally sure how to tune terms yet

#

on ryzen theres a bunch more so

turbid locust
topaz veldt
turbid locust
merry stirrup
turbid locust
#

im trying slightly higher VDDIO and VDDQ and if that doesnt work ill try higher VDDP

topaz veldt
#

bzoid neesd to do more H24M

merry stirrup
#

needs to do more intel

topaz veldt
#

meh

merry stirrup
#

kinda upset he took so long to do anything

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i get the moving part

turbid locust
brisk jolt
#

@topaz veldt what voltages for 8600?

fervent patio
#

Can y'all recommend a budget MOBO? Currently got an MSI H110 ECO, But I want to upgrade my i7-7700k and I want room for an nvme drive

topaz veldt
topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

idk what kit you have so i wont say timings

pure garnet
#

46 time

brisk jolt
#

h16a c26 1.45v

arctic bronze
merry stirrup
turbid locust
#

as long as IMC, VDDQ, and TX are synced

#

that brought me big stability

merry stirrup
#

didnt seem to do anything for me fyi

topaz veldt
#

same

turbid locust
#

it took me from 20 mins to 2 hours

topaz veldt
#

honestly it prob retrained lol

merry stirrup
#

9133 stability didnt change but i mean 9000 is as stable as ever so

brisk jolt
#

my goal is to hopefully get a stable 8600

topaz veldt
#

my 285K is just not stable at 9000 and I dunno what I lost

pure garnet
#

i just need to try more tx i think

brisk jolt
#

I might go as far as to slap a fan outside the case to do so

merry stirrup
pure garnet
#

i wanna know if seby was memeing or not about the x5 batch but realistically judging by cpu it wasn't 100% true

merry stirrup
#

yes theyre bad but it rules out ram

fervent patio
topaz veldt
merry stirrup
arctic bronze
merry stirrup
#

it doesnt make any physical sense that one could predict the quality of a cpu by the batch number

merry stirrup
brisk jolt
topaz veldt
#

Hilarious

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
#

so i want to throw the whole thing in the dumpster

merry stirrup
#

its just always terms

fervent patio
turbid locust
#

ok that errored time for VDDP

merry stirrup
#

i dont think an apex does good auto terms, do you want me to pull my terms and you can try to copy mine?

merry stirrup
#

every person ive seen on apex cant do anything good so far

arctic bronze
#

so 12th gen and up, no i3's are recommended tho

turbid locust
#

it was literally a screenshot of floppas lol

merry stirrup
#

wow pyhwinfo actually works now

pure garnet
#

are you on3.17

merry stirrup
#

yes the modified one but nothing useful out of it so far

pure garnet
#

which modified one

merry stirrup
merry stirrup
pure garnet
#

oh

turbid locust
#

@topaz veldt fyi the ones that are like "CA" and "CS" are in an advanced submenu on the apex

merry stirrup
#

also can try the terms that one guy said in hwbot

turbid locust
fervent patio
merry stirrup
#

i dont think im on them but its possible that it auto trained cause it looks familiar

turbid locust
#

those terms hwbot guy said took me from 20 secs to 20 mins

arctic bronze
#

unless you get a damn good deal, its best to go newer

merry stirrup
#

yeah idk i think ill try for 9k c34

slender abyss
#

6700k is goat

turbid locust
#

I love ryzen ram temps this is gas

fervent patio
merry stirrup
turbid locust
#

I am

#

we 35C chillin

merry stirrup
#

ram temps simply shouldnt be a problemt hen

arctic bronze
merry stirrup
#

idk on my klevv delids at like 1.7v i think i only peaked at 35c LOL

turbid locust
#

I joke cause ARL makes these jump to like 45C instantly

cosmic gazelle
#

chat are there any ssd options left besides aliexpress for cheap ass laptops that don't warrant spending $25 on a shitty piece of nand flash

turbid locust
#

higher VDDP seemed to help but still erroring fast

merry stirrup
#

try up to...when it wont boot ig lol thats when it stopped helpin bz

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i legit just rewatched the force vid yesterday so

turbid locust
#

im gonna nuke all my timings

wise bear
#

eeeeee

cosmic gazelle
#

what do you guys think about

turbid locust
#

just to like eliminate ram

merry stirrup
#

peyton do ou still need quadro

cosmic gazelle
#

i can't say i've heard very many reviews about ssds

#

i wonder if is a good brand

arctic bronze
merry stirrup
#

id imagine it might have flash storage on it

pure garnet
#

50% chacne its just a usb

merry stirrup
cosmic gazelle
#

it's for a dual core ivy bridge laptop that wouldn't know the difference anyways

merry stirrup
#

DDR4-5000 1:1 and 5100

cosmic gazelle
#

did you do the 5001 on purpose or does it just do that

fervent patio
merry stirrup
#

just does that, BCLK doesnt allow for perfect ratios

cosmic gazelle
#

why is bclk good here

merry stirrup
#

the board is for some reason weird above booting ratios above 4933 so you have to bclk up from there

arctic bronze
merry stirrup
#

ive gotten it to boot 5000 without the bclk a grand total of 1 time

#

so just some random board quirk

arctic bronze
#

hey Floppa, I greet thee

cosmic gazelle
#

does bclk still have issues with raising FSB speed and stuff or is that a thing of the past

merry stirrup
#

herro

pure garnet
#

when is arl-r

merry stirrup
cosmic gazelle
#

oh that shows how old the info i have about fsb is

merry stirrup
#

yeah cpus dont have an fsb

cosmic gazelle
#

fsb got replaced by infinity fabric

#

i never connected that

merry stirrup
#

its old ram i just didnt think it was that old

#

still mad i evc'ed that 570 only for it not to be able to be evc'ed

wise bear
cosmic gazelle
#

look floppa you can learn about bclk with hot ai lady

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don't you wanna click the link

merry stirrup
pure garnet
#

floppa do you know what the max safe tx is

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cuz i know 1.4 wasn't doing it for me

#

oh interesting

turbid locust
#

It’s a signaling voltage so like as far as I’m aware you can’t really fuck it up?

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just don’t set it higher than you’d set mem VDDQ

pure garnet
#

didn't his 13900ks go boom from too much tx

merry stirrup
#

yes

#

that or vdd2 it was one of them

merry stirrup
pure garnet
wraith steeple
turbid locust
#

The only “don’t fucking do this” I know on ARL is >1.4v SA

merry stirrup
#

yeah i listen to mmadness

#

ive tried above it before didnt change anything and just went back down

#

he did however say that its probably fine if we go past it because we arent doing insane bench settings

#

although my daily is basically someones bench

pure garnet
#

i mean i daily'd the auto 1.45v for awhile

topaz veldt
pure garnet
#

my master was way more conservative though it only did like 1.25v for 8000

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
merry stirrup
#

shouldnt be hard, everything shoul,d be named the same just in weird places

turbid locust
#

what if we arent meant to be gear 2 ryzen gamers

topaz veldt
pure garnet
#

i wish z890 had as much info as am5 speeds below 8000 did

merry stirrup
#

me and mac been thru this before so

turbid locust
merry stirrup
#

also man im just saying guys this capture card oc setup method thing is awesome

turbid locust
#

capture card is the method

merry stirrup
#

if i had a board with a post code id put a camera on the board and overlay it in obs like bz does

#

literal meta gaming the oc session

#

qcode readout is my minimap

#

i really want there to be a zen timings but for intel

pure garnet
#

i just keep my motherboard on my desk when i bench it

turbid locust
#

I dont see a world where more VDDP makes this 8000 stable

pure garnet
#

so i can see the boot loop of despair

#

what is your vddio

turbid locust
#

1.45

merry stirrup
pure garnet
#

oh wtf why does it 0.00 already then

merry stirrup
#

this is quite easy

pure garnet
merry stirrup
#

😭

pure garnet
#

i need another kit of h16a or h24m

turbid locust
topaz veldt
#

@turbid locust @merry stirrup sound right?

turbid locust
#

yep

#

the other ones you set are in the advanced menu in that menu

#

zentimings trolling

topaz veldt
#

Fuck @turbid locust its per channel?

turbid locust
#

nah just set it to equal

#

but yeah you can set it per channel

topaz veldt
#

but i mean i have two places to set ya?

turbid locust
#

nah just make sure the drop down at the top says to make them the same

#

i forget the exact wording

pure garnet
#

your terms look the same as mine do pretty much

topaz veldt
pure garnet
#

i don’t know why it’s not 8000ing

turbid locust
#

yeah sync basic thats it

topaz veldt
#

ok so sync enable and ignore the others

turbid locust
#

as long as thats enabled u should just have to enter stuff for A1

topaz veldt
#

i wish it'd make the other boxes go away

turbid locust
#

bro BZ pisses me off

#

he leaves like half these voltages auto and it just works lmao

topaz veldt
#

whats this?

#

or is that not part of terms

turbid locust
#

idk what that is

topaz veldt
#

reposting so i dont have to scroll

#

@turbid locust @merry stirrup what about this column

turbid locust
#

I literally do not know where the vref section in the bios is

#

ive looked for it

merry stirrup
#

me neither, i also dont think you set it like the rest, i think its influenced based off the rest of them

topaz veldt
#

ok

#

yeah thats my issue with 90% of this shit

#

also @turbid locust the Group B 60's is what people on OCN talked about forever, I MIGHT have done that with my last tune... unsure

merry stirrup
#

not sure, that section will vary between boot anyways, at least it did on my z790

topaz veldt
#

@turbid locust do you your 9000 timings you can share?

#

or did you just set primaries

#

or @merry stirrup

wraith steeple
turbid locust
merry stirrup
topaz veldt
#

ah fug

pure garnet
#

floppa loves my 9000 timings

topaz veldt
#

now i get to see if the H24M 9k preset fucks with these terms

turbid locust
#

they dont

topaz veldt
#

you sure? it does some other shit

turbid locust
#

no form of profile sets terms

#

afaik

topaz veldt
#

what voltages you running

#

im just going to clone your shit

turbid locust
#

uhhhhh hold on

merry stirrup
#

probs 1.4 all round?

#

maybe 1.45vdd2/mv/tx

topaz veldt
#

when you say vdd2....

#

we need to apexify that term

merry stirrup
#

i think asus calls it MC

turbid locust
merry stirrup
#

or some bullshit

topaz veldt
turbid locust
#

yep

topaz veldt
#

CPU TX =....

merry stirrup
#

IVR transmitter

turbid locust
topaz veldt
#

ok got it

turbid locust
#

2nd from the top

topaz veldt
#

I should auto NGU and D2D

merry stirrup
#

i usually do for testing

turbid locust
#

I do for ram testing

merry stirrup
#

we linked in

topaz veldt
#

i forget what we said about vnnaon

turbid locust
#

I do also set VNNON or whatever it is to 1.1v

merry stirrup
#

i wouldnt go more than .9

turbid locust
#

for no real reason

topaz veldt
#

yeah read about 0.9v recently

merry stirrup
#

above .9 causes weird cold boot bugs on anything

topaz veldt
#

we got that high d2d boot setting

turbid locust
merry stirrup
topaz veldt
#

at 1.1 i do get cold boot issues

#

00's and b4's and shit

turbid locust
merry stirrup
#

it also only affects ngu and d2d

topaz veldt
#

1.45v IMC sounds high?

merry stirrup
#

its not

topaz veldt
#

actually no - auto is at 1.49 LOL

merry stirrup
#

its as high as id go for daily but its not high

turbid locust
pure garnet
#

bz did 1.1v but thats too high for me to try

merry stirrup
#

do i swap the configuration around and put the ocf on the ccapture card

#

is it oc time oh god

turbid locust
topaz veldt
#

This jawn to 1.45

pure garnet
#

honestly floppa can i just get a profile from your bios

turbid locust
pure garnet
#

i wonder if it'll load on 3.17 stock

merry stirrup
pure garnet
#

yea

turbid locust
#

5nail what kit are you on btw

merry stirrup
#

uh if i have one

#

let me swap machines ig

topaz veldt
#

alright lets see

#

oh @turbid locust have you seen what happens if you override DIMM ratio

turbid locust
#

no?

brisk jolt
#

chat do i sell a kit of ram to a friend for cheaper than market pricing and get h24m

topaz veldt
#

so if you have your shit set to Auto and 9000, and then you set it to 1:2....

#

It will either set dimm freq to auto OR 10,000 lol

turbid locust
#

LOL

brisk jolt
#

Im now conflicted bcs I bought at $150 SGD if i sell im only willing to adjust to half of current market conditions 💀 yes this is highk scalping

topaz veldt
#

alright ya'll. booting

wraith steeple
turbid locust
#

1.2v VDDP is red on gene and it makes me scared

topaz veldt
#

@merry stirrup what did you use to get terms in os

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
merry stirrup
turbid locust
#

doesnt look like it's gonna boot for me either ngl

#

it's not even training

topaz veldt
#

what are you trying to tune for

#

8000?

turbid locust
#

yeah

topaz veldt
#

my PC just hard booted karhu 🙁

#

memory error 0% blah reboot

turbid locust
#

tell me why I had better luck with 9K on ARL than 8K on Ryzen

merry stirrup
#

@pure garnet problem

topaz veldt
#

@turbid locust meanwhile I am 8000 on two systems no issues on AM5

#

I don't want to rub it in but I don't think the Gene is worth it

turbid locust
#

I dont think it's the gene lol

brisk jolt
#

michael wouldve rubbed it in hella deep

pure garnet
#

rip

topaz veldt
#

I am just saying - I don't think the Gene will do you any wonders

turbid locust
#

I think gear 2 ryzen just sweet spots so hard lol

pure garnet
#

try 1.05 vddp

turbid locust
pure garnet
#

wait nvm

topaz veldt
#

I dunno man - I point and clicked 8000 CL38 on my B850-I and same with 8000 CL32 on my Apex

#

Both GDM off

#

65535

turbid locust
#

you also just get 6400 samples every time

wise bear
arctic bronze
merry stirrup
topaz veldt
brisk jolt
#

mac is indeed on the fool’s errand grind

merry stirrup
#

ill validate it tonight and you can remind me tomorrow then ill send

merry stirrup
pure garnet
#

i kinda just wanted like whatever timings and voltages you were dailying for 9000 to base off of

topaz veldt
#

@turbid locust for RTT Park @merry stirrup has 0, but we don't have 0, just disabled. Did you set to disabled?

merry stirrup
#

disabled=0 so yes

devout ridge
topaz veldt
#

interdasting ok

#

default is 120 ohm

merry stirrup
turbid locust
#

just threw a hail mary config for a funny screenshot one sec fellas

merry stirrup
#

i daily 9k 36-52 lol

topaz veldt
#

@merry stirrup do you set Pull-up and Pull-down output driver imp or just pull-dwon

merry stirrup
#

i havent told you why the ocf is meta yet have i

#

the ocf sets and trains terms for you lol

#

better than currently any other z890

topaz veldt
#

tempting me to buy one just to see that its no better 😛

merry stirrup
#

lmao

topaz veldt
#

so shold I leave Pull-up Driver to auto

merry stirrup
#

i think so

turbid locust
#

chat

#

the gene might be worse for mem oc LMAO

topaz veldt
#

lol im sayin

pure garnet
#

ill buy it off you

#

8 dollars

brisk jolt
#

8.10 dollars plus shipping covered

merry stirrup
#

also here is the hidden advanced menu

#

lots of cool stuff in here

#

i think that "overclocking menu" is actually an intel thing and not asrock

#

similar to amd overclocking menu

pure garnet
#

oh we have the same quality score

merry stirrup
#

you can see vids in bios btw

pure garnet
#

ngl i might try and bezo's bin another 265k to try for 9000 daily if my cpu can't figure it out

#

and just return if it can't

topaz veldt
#

Grrr I reconfig'd after default I think I left fast boot on

pure garnet
#

why is the 285k still doulbe the 265k

#

quite the value for 4 e cores

topaz veldt
#

top tier pricing

#

I am so tempted to go back to z790 apex and an SP108+ 14900k lol

turbid locust
#

chat im struggling to get 8400 to post on the gene

merry stirrup
#

do you have screneshots of 8400 post with zt on the mpower

turbid locust
#

probably not

merry stirrup
#

fun

turbid locust
#

I found a 8300 screenshot

merry stirrup
#

terms r in fact diff

#

i think your proc odt pu is 48 or something on the gene

#

my bad 40

turbid locust
#

i love how ddr5 oc has just devolved to terms hell

#

Ive been told that zen 5 likes 25 pu and 480 pd but ive never tried it

topaz veldt
#

@merry stirrup max safe SA volts?

turbid locust
#

1.4v

merry stirrup
#

homie madness says he observed fast degredation above 1.43 volts

#

since youre you however i wouldnt sweat trying up to 1.45

#

the chips lifespan is ultimately irrelevant to you

topaz veldt
#

I never know if less is more

#

I just got further by going VDIMM 1.5v vs 1.55

merry stirrup
#

if its not minimum 2x further its not real

topaz veldt
#

its crash vs 20 secs

merry stirrup
#

whats dimm vddq

topaz veldt
#

1.4

merry stirrup
#

try 1.43/1.45

topaz veldt
#

I think this system is picky on vddq

merry stirrup
#

was told it matters a lot more on z890 than other platforms

topaz veldt
#

yeah i seem to remember this being a setting and being like whoa it works

#

but i might be imagining

#

I am going to Auto SA

#

There was something I did and I was like ha thats wild

merry stirrup
#

hmmmm idk

topaz veldt
#

yeah hate it

#

Maybe I'll try my "6000 CL26" 48GB kit

merry stirrup
#

kyo im nearly done

pure garnet
#

free aio with 265k purchase on newegg

#

oh i mean i can't even touch my ocf till tuesday so

#

unless i put it in the daily system

#

because i can't keep taking it apart and putting it back together on my desk atm

turbid locust
#

I got a splash screen to come up with some bullshit pu pd but no boot to windows

topaz veldt
pure garnet
#

trying cleaning dimms

merry stirrup
#

and slot!

topaz veldt
#

stahp

turbid locust
pure garnet
#

i went not post 8600 to posts 9000 after a reseat

turbid locust
#

2 hr run was probably a god run

topaz veldt
#

maybe

#

did it not do it again Mac

turbid locust
#

idk i shut it down and put AM5 on the bench LMAO

topaz veldt
#

I want to be like Guilty and just run normal shit

#

like imagine just leaving your engine alone

turbid locust
#

gear 1 cope gang

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
#

should i hard set to 42

#

thats auto btw

merry stirrup
#

yeah ik

topaz veldt
#

I only set primaries

merry stirrup
#

may as well try 42 but i doubt thats the kicker lol

#

my board doesnt like when cwl is too low compared to tcl but it usually works -2

wise bear
#

iiiiiii

#

wanna screaaaaaam

#

im out of cheeeese

#

im ouT OF CHEEEEEEEESE

indigo walrus
merry stirrup
#

can i just say that karhu 2 still isnt out yet @pure garnet

topaz veldt
#

you know when you like... just gel with your setup?

#

This one has never had that with me - I get no vibes of what it wants

pure garnet
#

whole lotta v2 alpha is not dropping

topaz veldt
#

to me this feels like it wants more VDD

pure garnet
#

he went silent on disc again

topaz veldt
#

but i dunno

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
#

I should run Intel 200S and stfu