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Looking forward to your PBO results. Skatterbencher was able to do +200 boost override
i gotta chuck my 9800X3D directly into the nearest waste receptacle
Sell it for 1$
you should for running 6000
2 SATA SSDs as a metadata cache will still accelerate HDDs a bit right?
One HDD or more?
24 HDDs
it’s fine broham, the cpu can only utilize up to 4400MT/s anyway
Yes
brotato chip
well it’s gonna be 20 rn for testing, but 24 as the final deployment
sybau 
4 more drives are in the mail to replace the 600gb drives i received so all the drives will be the same capacity
i’m doing redundant boot drives too, i’m being safe for once!
i’ll probably do 4 raid z2 vdevs with 5 drives each for testing rn, then switch to 6 drive vdevs later
Just configured SSD's as cache
not gonna move data onto it rn, i’ll just remake the pool entirely when i get the new drives
Yeah Ik
the 20/24 drives are in a JBOD and the SATA SSDs are onboard the head unit
dual 256gb ssds for boot, dual 512gb ssds for metadata
probably just gonna be a mirror for the metadata SSDs
or does it matter if i lose that data
still booting, but it looks like it detected most if not all the JBOD drives
so that’s a relief, at least my HBA and cables work together properly
i did 100% copy some dude off reddit who did something super similar
How often do you want a cpu
okay all drives are detected, i just need to reformat the block size
more often than normal people
ok standard hwbot user
yup
I don’t believe shit till 3 hours
my second 9800X3D always errored after 10 mins
I can feel this ones aura, it will run no prob
if I get a shitter can we trade? You need to be humbled
you should’ve let me order
The benefit of day one is I’m not getting someone’s reject bin
i have a 100% success rate of zen 5 6400 1:1 2133fclk samples
yall know how to reformat the block size with truenas? i tried doing it through shell with the command "sg_format --format --size=512 /dev/sdab" and it just says permission denied
The drives don't appear in the selection options when creating a pool, but are detected in the disks list, just listed as 0B since they're currently formatted as a 520 bit block size
adding sudo to the front seemed to work, thank you
It counted down warning that it would wipe all the data on that drive, then said "Format unit has started"
2% done
imma be here a while
yeah but it might fuck up the pool after
Seagate drives that were used in a NETAPP system
1.2tb SAS
TrueNAS doesn't like 520bit block size HDDs
nor does any other software except the netapp shit for that matter
is it possible to do multiple drives at once?
if so, how?
i’m disinclined to wait an entire day for the drives to reformat
I feel like that’s less impressive than my 0% success rate LMAO
0% success rate on anything above 6000 is crazy work
Even I have a 6200 sample like dawg
im currently reinstalling windows bcs I did a oopsie fuckup xd
i fucking hate how many prompts windows makes you go through ugh
My first 9800X3D probably did 6200 but I was tilted and didn’t try lol
hm that’s weird. Took 30 mins for karhu to get to 11 mins? 
6200 looks disgusting and cope though
it took 30 minutes for the vsoc to go up
right 
I’m praying on his downfall he needs to be humbled
I had to add vdimm
I was trying for 1.4
5nail I think you have to livestream your karhu
I am on PBO +200 CO -20 all core @turbid locust
VSoC also suspiciously went up 10mv
ah yes
1.55 won't cook at hing
LTT did a video
There was a script Jake ran to change the block size I thought
When he got the rack off FB
you would do a for loop
would you need to exclude the OS drives?
I would imagine his Os isn’t stored on Rust
don't imagine anything
and it doesn't matter what they're stored on if I gave him a one liner to do for $i in /dev it's formatting the OS
great it now doesnt wanna load into windows again -_-
IMAGINE DRAGON DEEZ NUTS
you do realize that pushing these high mems speeds with like hail mary hopes and dreams usually corrupts your OS right
can confirm
Yeah I honestly forgot to set a safe point- thats on me
I do have a save point on my first install but something is corrupting it
im sussing the pcie riser gen 4 and mobo gpu gen 5 fuckery
wont know till i try
A phrase I've not heard in years
I had to do it to em
it was indeed the PCIE gen
Can confirm
i got so hype about this laptop until i learned it has a matte display
Is again (microcenter in store) https://www.microcenter.com/product/688173/apple-mac-mini-mu9d3ll-a-(late-2024)-desktop-computer
hmmm
matte display ? Cool.
reflective display is what i hate the most on the macbook
if you like matte then this laptop is awesome
panther lake, classy chassis, 1400nit tandem oled
not apple tho, the only reason i have a macbook is because iOS development for work
I wonder how firm they are? With the price I mean
what is $220 there ?
well i mean you can get a matte glass screen from apple, or put a cheaper protector on yourself
what should be firm on a headphone stand ?
I want one but every time they’re in stock it’s an inconvenient time lol
But like that’s the machine for the price rn unless you absolutely need windows
I understand why microcenter doesn’t ship but man if they did… 
my bad that was me, expert overclocker domdtxdissar
what would that command look like? also my OS drives are SSDs
All of the drives i want to avoid are SSDs, all the drives i want to format are HDDs
Denmark
i'm not quite dumb enough to run an OS on spinning rust
Can these fuckass people learn to drive someone crashed their car and my power is out
I figured
I died
I tried to go democratic unhistorical and fight the Germans
It failed
Tsk tsk
no harm in a mirror
OS is mirrored Sata SSDs
@devout ridge I don't want to throw you a 1 liner and ruin your shit
Some would argue SSDs are worse
no data on the system, ruin away
SSDs give basically zero heads up they're failing
worst case i reinstall the OS from scratch
for dev in /dev/sd[a-z]*; do sudo sg_format --format --size=512 "$dev"; done
but like... OS is going to be in there
do you know what devices are your root devices
as in the boot devices?
right
SDAV+SDAT
there's also 2 additional SSDs that i plan on using as a metadata cache SDAX + SDAW if that matters
for dev in /dev/sd[a-z]*; do [[ "$dev" == "/dev/sdav" || "$dev" == "/dev/sdat" ]] && continue; sudo sg_format --format --size=512 "$dev"; done
so that entire message copy paste into the shell?
yup, one-liner
Thank you kindly, i'll report back if it works or blows up
include the "; done" part right?
it says that if dev == /dev/sdav OR /dev/sdat then "continue" -- but otherwise run sg_format for sda-z
whole thing - you might need to tweak it ij ust kinda mashed shit together from other shit
might need to change the first part to /dev/sda[a-z]
depends on partitioning/etc.
Says Format unit has started
Am i able to navigate to other parts of the web ui, or does it need to stay open
you are doing it thru webui?
Mhm
rofl brother
Is it better to do it directly?
yeah that would have been an ssh session
is it fine to use IDRAC to directly access the server
linux shell or truenas cli shell
The wood. Tried for some toilet humor but I think I missed the mark.
okay worked in the linux shell, now we wait
omg hi mac'n'cheese
you in 2 hours
thats me now
yo i just cackled im saving this photo
havent laughed that hard in a while
its such a fucking stupid thing to laugh at too
do you know the origin
no but it reminds me of the one with the guy with the long ass forehead
Like and subscribe for daily memes
I love running benchmarks on like 7 hour old hardware
taking all those #2 slots lol
also NO ONE rushed out and bought 9850X3Ds
Found this on Typh's discord server. Originally made by yilmaz.exe
knowing the context is even better
equivalent to saying “no 2024 toyota corolla owners went out and bought 2025 toyota corollas” 🙏
bro im still stuck on 93rd
its moving slow af
i wanna get this ram fixed so i can sell it
or use it and sell the other ram
we shall see
Hell yea
Except there aren't Toyota Corolla benchmarks
i beg to differ
wait did you guys know there’s a 5gb quadro p2200 that performs roughly the same as an gtx 970?
it’s single slot
you really gonna let some dane beat you
the dane gets free cpus ahead of time
bl4kdot got all the firsts lmao
I’m like 90% sure Asus sent him one early and he LN2’d it
Oh you mean 3dmark
$325 usd for a 3080. Sound reasonable to grab?
mid
Gigabyte vision 3080
that’s about average unless it’s a 12gb
not terrible, but not a steal
Can anyone get to this site?
I can't:
https://www.alseyecorp.com/product/fc-01/
10gb
Unfortunately
But its for the wife so, not stressed about have 2 extra gb lol
Those are stats not benchmarks
Definitely. Bet he's not on SFF in a case with Office installed 😂
Office installed on the home pc is based asf
Office installed on benchmark rig
brother LMAO
I gotta get those invoices
I cannot believe I have to wait till Sunday for my funny cpu
a benchmark is a measured result of something that can exhibit a certain amount of performance depending on how it is calibrated by the user
hence, those are benchmarks 😎
stats would be manufacturer claimed 0-60
Go knit or something
my girlfriend crochets does that count
Japanese backflip tater tot
@shell void These guys never stop. Every day it’s more of these “tests” and then they return them just crazy. https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/s/rGQCulOhBW
this is how newegg and bhphoto and other retailers end up with a bazillion open box monitors that they aren't accepting returns on
In that case, let them keep doing it. Cheaper displays for people lol
eh newegg only drops like $50 off the price and refuses returns on open box items
this does seem like it would be noticeable in regular use
those are very sharp columns
@turbid locust I have to restart on this heap
Ok that is pretty uniform and may be problematic yeah
I thought that was AM5 for a second and I was like “how the fuck are you running 131K tREFI on Ryzen” lmao
im surprised that passed QC if it's that noticeable to the naked eye
Why are your voltage readings borked
they always are
mine aren’t
asrock timing config versions
I use the one you sent me iirc
yeah I went newer
Ah lol
Also is that a Karhu wrapper or something I see that a lot
yeah its a gui that shows more details
you move the .dll from karhu over
I see I’ll have to look into it
1.5 VDD 1.45 vddq
Sometimes I think about having kept that 265K
its definitely easier/more likely to run high DIMM speeds
oh nice I backed this up at least
Its funny though - 8600 CL38 is like 8.8ns
but it doesn't have the allure of 9000 CL40-42
real
I kinda need to stop going for daily tunes on z890 when I have no intention of ever dailying that platform lmao
9000 two hours karhu? Time to go higher and benchmark
Need to embrace that bench stable life lol
the prob is that if its only karhu stable for like 10 mins it can often have lower scores due to errors
mother
Tell your children not to walk my way
woof
Someone tell me what doesn't add up in this listing
@merry stirrup
.... i'm sorry, you're asking what for this?
- B650 doesnt use DDR4, that's actually a X570 Gaming X
- 48GB with four dimms is one 2x16 kit, and one 2x8 kit if real which is disgusting
yeah michael is right the b650 gaming x looks nothing like this lol
yup.
If that was actually a working B650 for 50$? I'd have considered it
not to mention 48gb of ddr5 for $140 lmao
on 4 chips that'd be kinda ass tho
jesus shit:
Actually let me check
originally paid:
I can't even find mine
Nice - I have F5-9000C4256H24GX2-TZ5CK
is it worth buying a R5 5600 for 90$ to upgrade my HTPC system?
Currently R7 3700x
why buy ram when you can buy a 2005 honda CRV which now technically qualifies as an antique vehicle
or is it 25 yrs for antique
right which is why you gotta play for some stability lol
either way antique cars are in the 2000s now and we're all slowly approaching our death
this is antique
the price delta from the 5500 to the 5600(x/xt/other) family is so absurdly huge
Tavern by Netherwalker. Trust. 
my pc specs are 12600k , gigabyte b660 ds3h ax ddr4 mobo, ram 32gb ddr4 adata 3600mt/s, rtx 4060 gpu
pc goes black screen while playing games or running unreal otherwise works fine
tried full fresh windows install all driver updates several times
PSU check
- reseat gpu
- Try a different PSU cable
- Try a new PSU
but it only happens while gaming bcz when i runs furmark or other benchmarks it runs fine
still can it be psu ??
potentially yeah.
Gaming causes transient spikes higher than furmark will make
cuz my psu is 450 watt corsair
that sounds sketch af
there ain't no good 450w psu's
there are worse ones though
sure, but.... damn
I got pny xlr8 2x 16GB 6400MT/s cl36 (which I got for amd cpu all the way down to 6000MT/s cl30 stress tested well but havent tried lower) for 90 dollars and similar deal is now 350
Got it two months into ram shortage warning and one week before prices actually affected
might be its bronze certified
can someone suggest a good budget psu
not really a thing
you get what you pay for for the most part
corsair doesn’t make psus that are gonna blow up though so bronze is fine
didn’t quite catch on in time but still almost double for me
Why are prices so much higher. Is it bc of Ai?
Thx God i upgraded my pc before these price hikes
$729 for my ram now wtf
yes ram pricing is high because most of the supply is going to AI datacenters, and ram manufacturers are purposefully choosing to not increase supply in order to reap maximum profits
@merry stirrup @pure garnet got the Gene today and found out it has lore
oh? whats the gene lore
It was imported from China, because it was owned by Jiacheng
I did not know this before today lol
what are the odds that there's a ryzen CPU in that suitcase that is a better bin than what Mac has
<@&750150305383186585> crypto bot account
Can you stop being my biggest hater
Michael is really letting his insecurities out
i have faith in your online ordered 9850x3d
as long as it wasn’t from amazon
michael, i’m giving you a great once a life opportunity to invest into my brand new kevtinkycoin, 100% profit guarantee no scam!
you know it was from fucking Amazon
nah, you need to invest into ramcoin where 1 coin = 1gb of ram

you gotta get it from bhphoto bro trust
(it makes zero difference)
Amazon is cheapest for me and fastest shipping
valid
amazon has always been extremely lenient with returns and quickly reimburses me so im partial to buying from there as well
I feel like I’m one large return from getting my account nuked lmao
i returned my aorus fv43u after having it for like 96 days, they didnt even make me pay a restock fee, and i had the money in my checking account the day that i shipped the monitor
bezos spoils me
if i get another 98/50x3d chances are its gonna be useless as horseshit
I found my issue which was causing blackscreens- its weird bcs it only started after that bad RAM
They treat me right because I have their credit card lmao
3975wx with 5090 strange combo
I already have 32gb ddr4 I got for 55$ back in July 2025 ish
ram and 32GB vram goodness are equally wanted
The Las Vegas sphere has 7TB of ram. Who’s tryina do a heist with me?
istg mac if its ddr3 or below

they better send you a good bin or else face retribution

mac on his way to set 6400 2133 (it isnt daily stable)
Does anyone recognize which lian li case this is exactly
i love when uhhh e waste runs latest software i mean how do i put 25h2
The lian li metal box with narrow cheese grater edition
I thought Microsoft locked out e waste from updates
ever heard of rufus
anything that can run windows 10 can also run windows 11
the new requirements are soft locks that are very easily bypassed
windows 11 is just windows 10 with a new ui and a few features stapled on
you can run win11 like that, but you're locked out of major updates without a complete reinstall afaik
6 years ago
Made to perform, limited quantities available now on Micro Center. Shop now→
Black: https://www.microcenter.com/product/604789/lian-li-205-tempered-glass-atx-computer-case---black
White: https://www.microcenter.com/product/604841/lian-li-205-tempered-glass-atx-computer-case---white
Awesome thanks
It allows you to install it. However iirc windows update on newer versions checks hardware against a list and doesn’t install the new update. So you can only update so far.
logic for finding it:
Pic has a clear cut basement, probably a LANCOOL
lian li lancool into google images. keep scrolling till I see this edge pattern
Yeah I kept coming up with Lancool but the older ones weren’t showing up
I’m buying it for 350 on Facebook and was curious if my current GPU would fit lmao
you're buying the case for 350? 350 what?
yeah no shit if unsupproted runs 23h2 it cannot do 24h2
there is a way to install newer versions on unsupported
350 usd for the entire system
According to the seller
cpu : ryzen 5 3600x
ram : ddr4 32gb ballistix
gpu: rtx 2080 super
motherboard : Aorus x570 pro wifi
case: lian li
Insane find
If real
Solid 2018/2019 gamer. I had that same exact 2080S. 2-slot, no backplate stripper model lol. 80c all day
Well it’s not turning on that’s why. But the guy has no idea how PCs work and it’s misconfigured in a few ways I can already see lol
It turns on then off right away
They didn’t list the PSU at all, and they said “no hard drive” and I don’t think they have any idea that m.2 goes under that shroud
could be a number of things. funky wiring and a short somewhere will often behave like that
Yeah hoping it’s just simple
My GPU is very overkill for it but if it fits it’s better than using it as an egpu for my handheld lmao
Even though my handheld has much better cpu performance
good deal
nice find :D
Good deal as long as it’s not all broken xD but it should HOPEFULLY be a simple fix
yeah
I just came across this terrible priced system on fb marketplace lol
oh lol it’s blessed
this implies jia has something better than a gene
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X + ASUS Prime B550M-A WiFi II AMD Micro ATX $95
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 $300
RAM: 16 GB (2×8 GB) $40
Power Supply: ASUS 650 W 80+ Bronze $60
Total:$495
Chat did I cook
should have got a 9850X3D
holy cooked
you could build that NEW for less
a far better system in fact
Apex probably
@livid flame should dm that guy that a brand new 225f 5050 system would cost $70 less lmao
yeah
no but the naming implies its probably just a 1060
yeah its a 1060
g5x though, smaller bus
still pretty interesting, also doesn’t require external power
and is true single slot
if im buying true single slot give me like a quadro rtx 4000 for 200$
This is what peak looks like
so peak

nice matx goober
yah
Where is my multimeter lmao
does the apex even have those
D5 Next because it's what I have on hand 
Be surprised if it didn’t
i dont see em
apex life
you are blind
where
oh
my beloved miniature apex
How many case fans do i need for this build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nBhpjn
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, Radeon RX 9070 XT, Fractal Design North ATX Mid Tower
i hope there’s a z990 gene
the ones the case comes with is fine
okay in my defense how the hell was i seeing these at a quick glance
i hope 2 case fans + an air cooler is enough...
holes on board like that = probe points
idk maybe its propaganda but a bunch of ppl reccomending 4-5+
i mean if you want em buy em
but like would it help
funnily enough, my cheap garbage rx 570 has probe points labeled
not enoug hto matter
my favorite asus card
This is for sure the coolest board I have atm
And it’s about to get an AMD stock cooler put on it LMAO
as a ram fan right
no
cursed
all you need for mem oc (and it’s really convenient to swap between boards)
@merry stirrup i opened the apex listing again and the dudes last feedback is that he's super firm on the price for his other listings too
Better off waiting on the 9950X3D2, I’m hoping it’s more than just dual 3D cache on it though!
Thats all it will be dude
have a 7600x3d what'll be the upgrade path if i want more cores
Z990I +U7 with stacked cache and a 240mm atmos for me 
Has anyone got any recommendations for somewhat decently priced 2tb ssd? I was going to go with a Seagate Firecuda 530, but from what im seeing a lot with a few google searches is that they fail after only a few months. I dont want to forking out around £200 for it to fail pretty fast
@merry stirrup45 surivies in a row???
This gene has the fastest cold boot ram training ive seen on AM5
deadass from a cmos clear it was MAYBE 20 seconds to post
code 15 has always been 15-20 seconds for me. the only fast part about my boots
damn
it's about a minute on my waifu board
gene cmos clear to post was about the same speed as mpower MCR boot
oh my god it has the peak
I will never ever go back to a 4 dimmer assrock board
i am becoming an asus glazer im ngl
shit took 7 business days to memtrain istg
idk how or why but my bios went looking like 720p to 1440p out of the blue
profile is extremely suspicious
no one on pvp survives that much
he’s also got an insanely low amount of xp for the raids he’s done
looks like a guy who’s just esping the best loot off the map while not killing people to avoid getting noticed
@merry stirrup does the gene know something we dont....? Whats wrong with this screenshot lol
other than it being super blown out cause HDR funny
personally i set my trefi to 16383.76 ns but that’s just me
ok it power cycled lol
literally max on ryzen but ok
but what I was talking about is that it set tRFC so tight
why 9600x?
OH i thought he just meant trefi I didnt see the ns
was just memeing
bought it purely for tinkering
he shit on us so fast
dude @merry stirrup that latitude i bought from goodwill shipped to me for $26 is immaculate and had ram and the drive still
this might be the best deal i've ever gotten
yea but. memetryit has like a bunch of unusuable profiles
8000 profile sets tRFC to 117ns... lol
thats p fire
its not lol
is that the floor for that ic
floor is generally considered to be 120ns
it can go slightly lower if you're lucky depending on the kit lol
yeah i wonder if thats like the absolute floor
the ocf profiles suck though
apex is tempting but my interest in it cycles
just evc'ed an entire gpu (the 570) only for it not to have the voltage controller the internet said it has
pog
im working on a low effort 8000 tune on the 9600x based on the gene profile + bz reference video on the Hero
i should update my mpower’s bios and try g2 again tbh
i think what i'll do is do a quick dity 6000 setup on my h16a
and throw h24m in ocf for the long term
like lemme tell ya for $25 you’d think this thing had never been used before
if it doesn’t thermal throttle i’m not even gonna take the cover off
this looks higher effort than it is
apparently on bz's force doing 8300, VDDP was what helped him the whole time
oh it errored pretty quick loooooool
macbin macbin
“mac how many shit amd bins have you gotten”
they’re 2 they’re 4 they’re 6 they’re 8
we raise vddq and vddio
this chip benches 8200 im literally just trying to learn the board atp
we love confirmed good hardware
this chip boots 8400 lol
thats why im so content with the ocf i just sit down and know i have a peak sample
without touching terms
on wat
mpower
yur
maybe using mpower auto terms isnt a bad idea if you dont have any luck
from what i know terms are all board/stick based so i mean like worth a shot
long as its the same sticks
im still not totally sure how to tune terms yet
on ryzen theres a bunch more so
8000 profile sets 1.1v but BZ hero vid said Asus boards liked 1.05v for him so thats what I plugged in but might raise it after this
which is that
random 9600x I bought a bit ago
his 8300 video on the force he was saying that 8400 might be possible with 1.2 vddp but it just wouldnt boot above like 1.175
im trying slightly higher VDDIO and VDDQ and if that doesnt work ill try higher VDDP
bzoid neesd to do more H24M
needs to do more intel
meh
hes done a solid amount of videos of AM5 H24M
@topaz veldt what voltages for 8600?
Can y'all recommend a budget MOBO? Currently got an MSI H110 ECO, But I want to upgrade my i7-7700k and I want room for an nvme drive
Eh really? Only a couple
on my setup? I think its like 1.5
1.35 sa
1.4 tx and VDD2/vdd2mv
1.5 dram
1.4 dram vddq
idk what kit you have so i wont say timings
46 time
h16a c26 1.45v
a budget motherboard for a really old platform?
but if that doesnt work on 8600 id stop trying 8600
didnt seem to do anything for me fyi
same
it took me from 20 mins to 2 hours
honestly it prob retrained lol
9133 stability didnt change but i mean 9000 is as stable as ever so
my goal is to hopefully get a stable 8600
my 285K is just not stable at 9000 and I dunno what I lost
i just need to try more tx i think
I might go as far as to slap a fan outside the case to do so
just try 40-56-56-56-128 primaries
i wanna know if seby was memeing or not about the x5 batch but realistically judging by cpu it wasn't 100% true
yes theyre bad but it rules out ram
I want to be able to upgrade my CPU , and storage , but the old 2015 board I currently have doesn't support it
I cleared Z890 Apex yesterday and it blew away all my profiles
going to be real i dont believe the whole batch nonsense and i never really have
well yeah, what platform are you going for
I told Mac the same earlier
it doesnt make any physical sense that one could predict the quality of a cpu by the batch number
just because there was 1 good cpu in 1 batch doesnt mean that the rest of the silicon is going to be perfect
gotcha thank you goat
yeah my msi boards did that a lot
So I had a 9000 profile that was like 5 hrs stable... and I ... dunno how I got there
so i want to throw the whole thing in the dumpster
its just always terms
Intel , not sure what gen yet
ok that errored time for VDDP
i dont think an apex does good auto terms, do you want me to pull my terms and you can try to copy mine?
Sure
yes
every person ive seen on apex cant do anything good so far
best to go for at least lga 1700, anything older isnt worth it
so 12th gen and up, no i3's are recommended tho
i sent u mine yesterday idk if u saw
it was literally a screenshot of floppas lol
wow pyhwinfo actually works now
are you on3.17
yes the modified one but nothing useful out of it so far
which modified one
my own
oh
@topaz veldt fyi the ones that are like "CA" and "CS" are in an advanced submenu on the apex
also can try the terms that one guy said in hwbot
I sent him those
Reckon I could probably get a 10th gen cheapish to go with my 1080ti, any recommendation?
i dont think im on them but its possible that it auto trained cause it looks familiar
10th gen is ass ngl
those terms hwbot guy said took me from 20 secs to 20 mins
unless you get a damn good deal, its best to go newer
yeah idk i think ill try for 9k c34
6700k is goat
I love ryzen ram temps this is gas
Honestly I've got a budget of like £200 - I built the rig for £170 + £150 for the 1080ti I got today
just run nakeds man
ram temps simply shouldnt be a problemt hen
then ur prob stuck on 7th gen for a while then
idk on my klevv delids at like 1.7v i think i only peaked at 35c LOL
I joke cause ARL makes these jump to like 45C instantly
chat are there any ssd options left besides aliexpress for cheap ass laptops that don't warrant spending $25 on a shitty piece of nand flash
higher VDDP seemed to help but still erroring fast
try up to...when it wont boot ig lol thats when it stopped helpin bz
i legit just rewatched the force vid yesterday so
im gonna nuke all my timings
eeeeee
what do you guys think about
just to like eliminate ram
peyton do ou still need quadro
9 bucks?
id imagine it might have flash storage on it
50% chacne its just a usb
you see my DDR4-5100 last night?
it's for a dual core ivy bridge laptop that wouldn't know the difference anyways
did you do the 5001 on purpose or does it just do that
Would this not go well?
just does that, BCLK doesnt allow for perfect ratios
why is bclk good here
the board is for some reason weird above booting ratios above 4933 so you have to bclk up from there
that works
ive gotten it to boot 5000 without the bclk a grand total of 1 time
so just some random board quirk
hey Floppa, I greet thee
does bclk still have issues with raising FSB speed and stuff or is that a thing of the past
herro
bclk still has its issues yes
when is arl-r
unfortunately the bdie just wouldnt go past 4600
oh that shows how old the info i have about fsb is
yeah cpus dont have an fsb
i assume its an A0 PCB, thats what bz said they basically topped out at
its old ram i just didnt think it was that old
still mad i evc'ed that 570 only for it not to be able to be evc'ed
non i dont think soo
look floppa you can learn about bclk with hot ai lady
don't you wanna click the link
okie i just got it back in my like real possession so if you end up needing a moderately fast single slot lemme know
floppa do you know what the max safe tx is
cuz i know 1.4 wasn't doing it for me
oh interesting
It’s a signaling voltage so like as far as I’m aware you can’t really fuck it up?
just don’t set it higher than you’d set mem VDDQ
didn't his 13900ks go boom from too much tx
still physically interacts with the phy or something
either they pulled it or this guy is in the wrong form
Coming up this weekend 
The only “don’t fucking do this” I know on ARL is >1.4v SA
yeah i listen to mmadness
ive tried above it before didnt change anything and just went back down
he did however say that its probably fine if we go past it because we arent doing insane bench settings
although my daily is basically someones bench
i mean i daily'd the auto 1.45v for awhile
I don't think i did
my master was way more conservative though it only did like 1.25v for 8000
mine are floating around that message somewhere btw
ok i will have to apexify these
swag
shouldnt be hard, everything shoul,d be named the same just in weird places
what if we arent meant to be gear 2 ryzen gamers
bro can you export your BIOS to txt via USB drive and sendzo
i wish z890 had as much info as am5 speeds below 8000 did
ehhhhhhhhh
me and mac been thru this before so
it's off the bench at this very second but I can next time I got it on the bench
also man im just saying guys this capture card oc setup method thing is awesome
capture card is the method
if i had a board with a post code id put a camera on the board and overlay it in obs like bz does
literal meta gaming the oc session
qcode readout is my minimap
i really want there to be a zen timings but for intel
i just keep my motherboard on my desk when i bench it
I dont see a world where more VDDP makes this 8000 stable
1.45
i just like being able to fully utilize my daily while i bench
oh wtf why does it 0.00 already then
this is quite easy
not me i rip the ram out of my daily 
😭
i need another kit of h16a or h24m
right click open projector view
@turbid locust @merry stirrup sound right?
yep
the other ones you set are in the advanced menu in that menu
zentimings trolling
Fuck @turbid locust its per channel?
but i mean i have two places to set ya?
nah just make sure the drop down at the top says to make them the same
i forget the exact wording
your terms look the same as mine do pretty much
i don’t know why it’s not 8000ing
yeah sync basic thats it
ok so sync enable and ignore the others
as long as thats enabled u should just have to enter stuff for A1
i wish it'd make the other boxes go away
bro BZ pisses me off
he leaves like half these voltages auto and it just works lmao
idk what that is
I know
reposting so i dont have to scroll
@turbid locust @merry stirrup what about this column
me neither, i also dont think you set it like the rest, i think its influenced based off the rest of them
ok
yeah thats my issue with 90% of this shit
also @turbid locust the Group B 60's is what people on OCN talked about forever, I MIGHT have done that with my last tune... unsure
not sure, that section will vary between boot anyways, at least it did on my z790
@turbid locust do you your 9000 timings you can share?
or did you just set primaries
or @merry stirrup

9000 H24M preset
am on h16a do you want mine lol
ah fug
floppa loves my 9000 timings
now i get to see if the H24M 9k preset fucks with these terms
they dont
you sure? it does some other shit
uhhhhh hold on
i think asus calls it MC
or some bullshit
DIMM VDDQ is 1.45?
yep
CPU TX =....
IVR transmitter
that weird one in advanced we talked about yesterday
ok got it
2nd from the top
I should auto NGU and D2D
i usually do for testing
I do for ram testing
we linked in
i forget what we said about vnnaon
I do also set VNNON or whatever it is to 1.1v
i wouldnt go more than .9
for no real reason
yeah read about 0.9v recently
above .9 causes weird cold boot bugs on anything
we got that high d2d boot setting
jia told me 1.1v once and that man might as well be oc jesus to me
yeah but keep in mind he does xoc
he knew i was at ambient
it also only affects ngu and d2d
1.45v IMC sounds high?
its not
actually no - auto is at 1.49 LOL
its as high as id go for daily but its not high
could be, just what I landed at one time and kinda stuck with it
bz did 1.1v but thats too high for me to try
do i swap the configuration around and put the ocf on the ccapture card
is it oc time oh god
he was also running oc'd D2D
This jawn to 1.45
honestly floppa can i just get a profile from your bios
ya
i wonder if it'll load on 3.17 stock
for h16a?
yea
5nail what kit are you on btw
alright lets see
oh @turbid locust have you seen what happens if you override DIMM ratio
no?
chat do i sell a kit of ram to a friend for cheaper than market pricing and get h24m
so if you have your shit set to Auto and 9000, and then you set it to 1:2....
It will either set dimm freq to auto OR 10,000 lol
LOL
Im now conflicted bcs I bought at $150 SGD if i sell im only willing to adjust to half of current market conditions 💀 yes this is highk scalping
alright ya'll. booting

1.2v VDDP is red on gene and it makes me scared
@merry stirrup what did you use to get terms in os
utility called "pyhwinfo"
i think i use 1.15
bz couldnt get 1.2 to boot so
yeah
tell me why I had better luck with 9K on ARL than 8K on Ryzen
@pure garnet problem
@turbid locust meanwhile I am 8000 on two systems no issues on AM5
I don't want to rub it in but I don't think the Gene is worth it
I dont think it's the gene lol
michael wouldve rubbed it in hella deep
rip
I am just saying - I don't think the Gene will do you any wonders
I think gear 2 ryzen just sweet spots so hard lol
try 1.05 vddp
I wasnt expecting it to
wait nvm
I dunno man - I point and clicked 8000 CL38 on my B850-I and same with 8000 CL32 on my Apex
Both GDM off
65535
you also just get 6400 samples every time
yoink
I typed in "anime pog" and found that lol
im going to go through and make a profile
true
mac is indeed on the fool’s errand grind
ill validate it tonight and you can remind me tomorrow then ill send
this can be said for anyone doing any hobby
i kinda just wanted like whatever timings and voltages you were dailying for 9000 to base off of
@turbid locust for RTT Park @merry stirrup has 0, but we don't have 0, just disabled. Did you set to disabled?
disabled=0 so yes
how i feel everytime i tidy a communal space
ya
i have apparently the best h16a ever so my daily is not somehting people would do but i am doing a mid setup rn
just threw a hail mary config for a funny screenshot one sec fellas
i daily 9k 36-52 lol
@merry stirrup do you set Pull-up and Pull-down output driver imp or just pull-dwon
i havent told you why the ocf is meta yet have i
the ocf sets and trains terms for you lol
better than currently any other z890
tempting me to buy one just to see that its no better 😛
lmao
central has them for 350 so
im surprised you haven't bought one honestly
so shold I leave Pull-up Driver to auto
i think so
lol im sayin
8.10 dollars plus shipping covered
also here is the hidden advanced menu
lots of cool stuff in here
i think that "overclocking menu" is actually an intel thing and not asrock
similar to amd overclocking menu
oh we have the same quality score
ngl i might try and bezo's bin another 265k to try for 9000 daily if my cpu can't figure it out
and just return if it can't
Grrr I reconfig'd after default I think I left fast boot on
chat im struggling to get 8400 to post on the gene
do you have screneshots of 8400 post with zt on the mpower
probably not
fun
I found a 8300 screenshot
terms r in fact diff
i think your proc odt pu is 48 or something on the gene
my bad 40
i love how ddr5 oc has just devolved to terms hell
Ive been told that zen 5 likes 25 pu and 480 pd but ive never tried it
@merry stirrup max safe SA volts?
1.4v
homie madness says he observed fast degredation above 1.43 volts
since youre you however i wouldnt sweat trying up to 1.45
the chips lifespan is ultimately irrelevant to you
if its not minimum 2x further its not real
its crash vs 20 secs
whats dimm vddq
1.4
try 1.43/1.45
I think this system is picky on vddq
was told it matters a lot more on z890 than other platforms
yeah i seem to remember this being a setting and being like whoa it works
but i might be imagining
I am going to Auto SA
There was something I did and I was like ha thats wild
hmmmm idk
kyo im nearly done
free aio with 265k purchase on newegg
oh i mean i can't even touch my ocf till tuesday so
unless i put it in the daily system
because i can't keep taking it apart and putting it back together on my desk atm
I got a splash screen to come up with some bullshit pu pd but no boot to windows
grrr
trying cleaning dimms
and slot!
stahp
I bet mine would do the same shit if I put it on the bench rn lol
i went not post 8600 to posts 9000 after a reseat
2 hr run was probably a god run
idk i shut it down and put AM5 on the bench LMAO
I want to be like Guilty and just run normal shit
like imagine just leaving your engine alone
gear 1 cope gang
does it not like cwl
im not sure
should i hard set to 42
thats auto btw
yeah ik
I only set primaries
may as well try 42 but i doubt thats the kicker lol
my board doesnt like when cwl is too low compared to tcl but it usually works -2
This news is not very gouda.
can i just say that karhu 2 still isnt out yet @pure garnet
you know when you like... just gel with your setup?
This one has never had that with me - I get no vibes of what it wants
playboi karhu
whole lotta v2 alpha is not dropping
to me this feels like it wants more VDD
he went silent on disc again
but i dunno
surprised he didnt just like doxx me or something in the discord for shit talking him
I should run Intel 200S and stfu



