tech-chat-2

[merry stirrup]

yeah

bro this am4 computer blowing on my leg is actually making me kinda sweat

[turbid locust]

end the sentence after blowing

bro I love when my iPhone autocorrects words I spelled correctly to SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY

like bro idk wtf they did but autocorrect is on some shit

I deadass had it autocorrect “there” to “there’re” the other day I’m so fucking serious

[merry stirrup]

yeah if you just mash your keyboard you can kinda see the randomness itll do

[teal orbit]

Probably the entire rendering I guess

[tranquil dock]

Need help

[teal orbit]

instead of doing it via like 3d graphics

[merry stirrup]

itll try to change "asodjasdads" to "ehanced"

[merry stirrup]

or something

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/womp-womp-conan-coco-gif-22970579

[tranquil dock]

Going back to ZTT

It was a mistake coming here

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/ladies-and-gentleman-we-got-him-gif-12313683

[merry stirrup]

like how does it possibly think i didnt mean to just mash my keyboard

[teal orbit]

This isn't the help channel, that's why people are just joking around

[topaz veldt]

https://linkto.run/p/DGTXTUBI

[pure garnet]

the last time this guy asked for help some dude was insisting ebay ram sticks would burn his house down

[merry stirrup]

lol

[tranquil dock]

oh

i forgot about that

[turbid locust]

They will

[tranquil dock]

Im stuck in bios

[merry stirrup]

i feel like i have been very lazy today so i think im gonna like pick up pick up my room

[steel stream]

hah

[topaz veldt]

lol shit

[steel stream]

rot bro rottttt

[pure garnet]

what’s your current ryzen lineup?

[topaz veldt]

whomth?

[pure garnet]

7800x3d 9950x3d 2x 9800x3d?

[random flame]

Where will it go, what will it do?
Who shall be stuffed into this case for another Ryzelectric zoogaloo?

[pure garnet]

you

[topaz veldt]

yes

[pure garnet]

i voted for 9950x3d but 9850x3d would be “new”

they seem to do well with pbo too

[steel stream]

I voted for 9800X3D

[topaz veldt]

jerk

[pure garnet]

wow

[topaz veldt]

yous are all voting intentionally to flatten it lol

[steel stream]

guilty isn't here atm someone must be the voice of reason

[pure garnet]

flip a coin for 9850x3d or 9950x3d

keeping the 9800x3d is suboptimal

[topaz veldt]

I had a crazy idea

what if I replaced both 9800X3Ds

[pure garnet]

resale on them would be good enough to justify it probably

what if you replaced the 7800x3d with one of them though

[topaz veldt]

then do 9950X3D in SFF and 9850X3D in family room

[pure garnet]

went all zen 5

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/marmota-cooking-hold-up-gif-5382607284931131048

[topaz veldt]

thats my wifes now, no touch

[pure garnet]

valid

that does sound a good idea

[tranquil dock]

MY pc wont boot now

[steel stream]

@shell void I got some quick questions for you, do you use desk mode on your KEFs? And do you bother with a peace eq or nah

[steel stream]

clear cmos

[tranquil dock]

?

[shell void]

i dont use any of the modes in the app, but i do have to use equalizerAPO on them to combat a desk reflection

i get a nasty reflection at 145Hz that makes them sound super boomy

you can find things like that with a frequency sweep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAsMlDptjx8

[steel stream]

im messing with it rn, cause I've got a sub and just interested

[tranquil dock]

How do I put xmp

I only see D.O.C.P

[hollow temple]

Do you have a mic to measure

[steel stream]

yuh

[steel stream]

same thing pretty much, but aren't you using mismatched sticks

[turbid locust]

brother just buy one with me tomorrow

[tranquil dock]

Yeah

[steel stream]

i wouldn't mess with DOCP then

just leave it stock

[tranquil dock]

k

[hoary hatch]

Wait

[steel stream]

ok

[hoary hatch]

There's an RTX auto hdr?

Should I stop using windows auto hdr

[steel stream]

yes

I only use RTX HDR and Special K

[hoary hatch]

I don't eat cereal

I need to figure out what Renodx HDR is

[topaz veldt]

yeah you're right

[steel stream]

come join the HDR discord

[turbid locust]

[steel stream]

SpecialK is also a neat "modding" tool, Guilty and I use it fairly often

[hoary hatch]

Will I be fine just turning on RTX HDR in Nvidia app for now

[edgy laurel]

[steel stream]

yeah that's good

[hoary hatch]

Sounds like y'all are getting paid by Kellogg's

[steel stream]

SpecialK is really for games that can't use RTX HDR

[turbid locust]

RTX HDR nuked the contrast in my clips idk

[steel stream]

I am a michigan man

[hoary hatch]

Oh fuck

[steel stream]

idk how to respond to valid criticisms so delete this RTX HDR is perfect (it's jank as fuck)

[hoary hatch]

I forgot this Nvidia app is half korean

[steel stream]

how

[tranquil dock]

My pc keeps taking me back to the bios

[hoary hatch]

Only the banner ads are Korean

[steel stream]

how did you manage this

[hoary hatch]

This is my housemate's PC...no idea why it's like this

[edgy laurel]

if using RTX HDR for games, do per game not global. verify active and adjust levels with Alt-F3

[steel stream]

why are you on the housemate pc

[edgy laurel]

requires filters and photo mode to be turned on (its just one of the many filters)

[hoary hatch]

He is out of town and his PC is connected to the TV for couch gaming

[steel stream]

ah ok dope

what GPU is in there

[hoary hatch]

3090

[steel stream]

half decent nice

[hoary hatch]

More than enough for Hades 2

[steel stream]

I suppose so

[edgy laurel]

RenoDX install is as simple as a few clicks for Reshade then drop the RenoDX dll for that game in the games root directory (where reshade was installed)

Home key to configure

but RTX HDR is easier and probably fine for most people

[turbid locust]

I’m gonna be bummed if bestbuy doesn’t have 9850X3Ds tomorrow lol

[hoary hatch]

Welp

Nvidia app isn't aware Hades exists

So I guess I'm not using RTX HDR

[edgy laurel]

still can

[steel stream]

big or small town

[turbid locust]

big

[steel stream]

might have to scan libraries

[edgy laurel]

recan for games if you haven't already

[steel stream]

should be fine

[edgy laurel]

or just add the main executable manually

[hoary hatch]

I've done so twice

[turbid locust]

I physically went to the store on my way home from work to ask and I got a “maybe :)” basically

[steel stream]

I would have fought the employee right then and there

[turbid locust]

it was a group of 3 and her facial expression was as if she knew but wasn’t allowed to say

[steel stream]

should have just walked into the back room

[turbid locust]

real

[hoary hatch]

Nvidia finds like 30% of the games installed on this pc

[steel stream]

i wonder if the install folders are all over the palce

[hoary hatch]

It's just steam

There's multiple steam library folders but I rescanned them all

[edgy laurel]

you can add whole scan locations in Settings

but i only rarely have this problem

[steel stream]

tell it to scan the whole pc

[hoary hatch]

I added hades2.exe

[steel stream]

that works too I guess

[hoary hatch]

Well it might work

I feel like it's not gonna work

[edgy laurel]

i love some ue games. stalker2.exe in root of game directory but actually the one you want is in the root\stalker2\binaries\Win64\Stalker2-Win64-Shipping.exe

makes reshade install fun when you don't realize this for the first time

[hoary hatch]

30 seconds of testing RTX HDR and the game crashed

[brisk jolt]

First batch bin copium, I cant bear to see you get another dogshit bit on the level of mine

im pretty sure for this they just slammed the power up and didnt bin anything

[turbid locust]

I just think it’s funny that not only have I not gotten a proper 6400 stable chip, I also haven’t gotten a 6200 stable chip lmao

[hoary hatch]

Oh this PC is fuckdd

Okay ya know what SDR is fine y'all

[shell void]

real

[brisk jolt]

Dude cant even get a 6200 stable is crazy work

Yeah my 9800 couldnt get 6200 stable so fuck that

[young void]

https://ebay.us/m/JcNPL0

❤️

[edgy laurel]

pebkac

[turbid locust]

guilty knows ball

[edgy laurel]

come to think of it, the game supports RenoDX so it must have native HDR.. so wtf are you doing in the first place

[hoary hatch]

HDR is copium

[turbid locust]

my 9850x3d is gonna do 6000 and im gonna like it

[hoary hatch]

It does not

[brisk jolt]

1.26 vsoc 6kc36

[hoary hatch]

unless it supports HDR but doesn't have any menu options for it and doesn't have any way to tell the user it is on

[turbid locust]

we ball

[edgy laurel]

yeah I just checked the pcgamingwiki.. doesn't make any sense why there is a RenoDX build for it then but i can't be bothered to look into it

[turbid locust]

frankly I care less about gear 1 as I do fclk

if it does good fclk im ok

[shell void]

i need 128GB quad rank dimms for my ultra 9 495kx

[brisk jolt]

think about it
intel imc: Good controller, good speeds, good capacity, good reliability
amd imc: good morning good afternoon good night

[turbid locust]

intel imcs error after a restart

[steel stream]

woah woah woah

[brisk jolt]

Im gonna attemp 8600 after I get my fans

currently it doesnt push air out fast enough

[merry stirrup]

this is doable without a fan

what board do you have?

8600 on most 4 dimmers is optimistic i wont lie

[pure garnet]

z890-e

so he should have nitropath

[merry stirrup]

nitropath

[pure garnet]

is nitropath proven to like

actually do good speeds in g2 on ryzen

[merry stirrup]

no freakin clue tbh

[pure garnet]

i could get an x870e-e

[merry stirrup]

nobody runs anything good on ryzen unless they have an apex because thats what real ocers buy

and nobody else tries above 8000

[pure garnet]

yeah we know how that went

$9 off

[merry stirrup]

yeah lol

[pure garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-mountains-penguin-mountain-penguin-mountain-gif-17645682934259148439

[merry stirrup]

but unfortunately a lot of the 4 dimmers of both platforms rn are pretty undocumented

[pure garnet]

unless it was proven by more than 1 person i'd not want it anyway

because bz hit 8k on his tommy and mine and michaels doesn't like it

[merry stirrup]

this guy in hwbot is the only guy i see doing testing on more than oc boards

and he doesnt test longer than an hour and a half usually so his tests are a nothing burger to me

asked him about it in the past and he basically said he didnt care to test any longer iirc

[pure garnet]

z890 i have 0 interest in 4 dimmers since i own the ocf

[merry stirrup]

yeah real

idk if he does any amd testing i dont remember

[pure garnet]

i just wouldn't mind a good 4 dimm pcb

if one existed, but they seem to not

[merry stirrup]

yeah

seems that hero couldnt do 8600 w/nitro path in his testing so i wouldnt bet on the x870e-e

[shell void]

i want x870e dark hero reviews

that's the most appealing board to me atm

[merry stirrup]

what a ram speed

ram so slow i can hear it

[shell void]

adorable

[turbid locust]

I need to try the one that came with my apex lol

[shell void]

yes you must

it might be good enough for single ccd ryzen

[turbid locust]

well I don’t have the am5 apex

[shell void]

o i forgot that you have the z890 apex

[hollow temple]

So many icons

[merry stirrup]

thats cool

[topaz veldt]

I used it. It works but it's loud.

[merry stirrup]

also dies fast apparently

[turbid locust]

ah

nvm

[merry stirrup]

saw someones fan die in 2 hours in hwbot lol

[turbid locust]

LOL

I cant wait for 5nail to get a 6600 1:1 sample tomorrow

[nimble pike]

Meanwhile I'm stuck on DDR4 for the foreseeable future.

[topaz veldt]

I might already have one but have to checked

[turbid locust]

nah I mean 9850X3D

I think it'd be kinda funny if mine was like giga bad

6600/2200 would be quite funny tho

[pallid marsh]

@low sorrel https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KonMbbZ6sHk?feature=share

[brisk jolt]

b860i in a sub 10L ITX case

a hell lot of heat is trapped inside with nothing to pull it out

[nimble pike]

And I thought MY case was small

[brisk jolt]

also rn on this LP cooler Im getting throttled at 170w which isnt bad honestly

[brisk jolt]

theres smaller, my next one is sub 5L

[nimble pike]

Dang

My problem is that I'm a creator, so I just keep adding more and more stuff

[brisk jolt]

this ons is barely sub 20L but it fits MASSIVE air coolers

a lot of wasted space

[nimble pike]

I miss HEDT

[low sorrel]

lol

so today i learned you can starve to death in tarkov

[brisk jolt]

just eat smh

[topaz veldt]

cmon game

[molten iron]

should i get a ryzen 9950x3d or should i wait until that rumored 9950x3d2 comes out? I know it's rumored, but there's a ton of information that is being talked about.

[topaz veldt]

yes

[turbid locust]

I dont see the 9950X3D2 being 1. significantly better at all 2. worth the price they're probably going to ask

best case scenario it matches a 9850X3D lmao

it'll just be straight up slower than the 9950x or 9950X3D for productivity

[topaz veldt]

It will be slower on both CCDs than a 9950X3D

[frank cypress]

it will be better on things that appreciate the extra cache but worse at things that prefers higher frequency than more cache

[merry stirrup]

i forgot my testbed came with a button so now i dont have to cave man it

[frank cypress]

idk, I still think it makes more sense than the 9950x3d

now it's not some weird in between

[topaz veldt]

very very very niche items... namely... databases...

[low sorrel]

im poor

[topaz veldt]

but who is running databases on an AM5 desktop enough that they need dual 3D CCDs

[frank cypress]

maybe simulations based workloads would appreciate it

[wise bear]

ur nan

[frank cypress]

like houdini artists, maybe

[topaz veldt]

We tested it on workloads with EPYC, its very narrow use cases in DBs

[frank cypress]

idk tho

[molten iron]

i currently have a 9800x3d and i'm a little disappointed with it's ability to perform outside of games. like oh my god gaming is great, but when i'm trying to do other things at the same time, i find myself waiting more than me using a 12700k. it was faster with workstation stuff & recording, but terrible at games.

I was looking at the 9950x3d as an alternative, is that a wise decision?

[frank cypress]

oh

[cosmic gazelle]

yes this is literally how it works

it’s an 8 core cpu it’s not gonna be a productivity monster

[molten iron]

lol

love you notch. thanks for your input

[topaz veldt]

sure

[turbid locust]

@topaz veldt

[topaz veldt]

Hm that might be good

My 285K is SP83

and the scale is not the same

[turbid locust]

I did a 5.65/4.9 yolo ycruncher run and it handled it

I think i set max p core voltage to 1.4v

[topaz veldt]

yeah the clocks are way diff from 285K so I can't relate

[turbid locust]

damn your P cores seem quite better than mine

[merry stirrup]

also xmp config is in my bios

[turbid locust]

why does my z890 apex have a 2TB nvme in it

[merry stirrup]

lol

[turbid locust]

when and why did i do that

wait so wtf is in my daily

[fringe fossil]

[turbid locust]

bro lol

I mixed up my 1tb and 2tb

[merry stirrup]

found an “odt preset” in my ocf bios

[turbid locust]

bro fuck Asrock lmao

[merry stirrup]

the one time they have the better mem board bro

it’s so awesome seeing 9266 g2 just turn on right away

[topaz veldt]

Mine has a PCIe 5.0 4TB lol

[turbid locust]

Ok but yours is an actual system

this fucker has never seen a case

[topaz veldt]

Mine are all stupid though

[turbid locust]

Replace em all with 9850X3D

[topaz veldt]

Its happening tomorrow

[turbid locust]

Why are my dimms hitting 48C in a cold ass room with a fan blasting them

are RGB heatsinks really that ass LMAO

[topaz veldt]

so

as mentioned by the buildzoidian

[turbid locust]

yes ik but for the conditions bro

[topaz veldt]

I had the 9000 CL42 DIMMs in my X870E and granted not 9000, but I threw 1.55v at them and it was way slower

sorry, way cooler

because its way slower - the infinity fabric acts as a thermal limiter

[turbid locust]

Mine are on 1.55v rn

[brisk jolt]

this is somewhat heavy ngl

[topaz veldt]

A) H24M run the IMC and DIMMs hotter B) when in an intel system that can actually do > 135 GB/s they get hotter

[turbid locust]

Like it’s straight up 63F in this room and they have a P12 blastin on em rn

[topaz veldt]

its just gonna blaze bro

put them in your AM5 same settings and its like 15c cooler

[turbid locust]

ik bro

it also doesn’t help I’m running 131K tREFI LMAO

[brisk jolt]

the copper is here

[topaz veldt]

what M/Ts

[brisk jolt]

my dumbass instead of putting it on the sofa put it in the bag bringing it outside

[oak vector]

heyyyy we're matching temperatures haha

[pallid marsh]

dumbass aye you must be related to @low sorrel

[turbid locust]

I used my $800 thermometer (Bambu P2S chamber temperature reading)

[turbid locust]

9000

[topaz veldt]

stable yet?

[oak vector]

if it works it works

[turbid locust]

nah first time coming back to z890 in about a month, been playing with AM5

Honestly didn’t intend to try to do any ram tuning, was just meaning to check SP lol

[topaz veldt]

Thats kinda how my shit goes

I hadn't played a game on 285K in a bit, turned it on, hey this is only 8600 M/Ts

[turbid locust]

But I wanted to test a theory

[topaz veldt]

hey why not flash the BIOS....

oh fuck my profiles. RIP

[oak vector]

🔥 imma watch it

[topaz veldt]

buying one in the am

[brisk jolt]

imposter the real 5nail would be buying like 5

[oak vector]

https://tenor.com/view/jontron-ill-take-your-entire-stock-thats-mine-gif-13637000

😭 🔥

[pallid marsh]

gotta get that 4% boost

[turbid locust]

I can’t wait to buy a 9850X3D and then turn it into a 9800X3D by eco tuning it

[oak vector]

i can't wait to buy the 9800x3d when the 13800x3d releases

i wonder if amd is just gonna go 11,000 series for their next cpus

i dont see why they wouldn't

[topaz veldt]

I am going to turn mine into a 7500X3D

[turbid locust]

vibes

[merry stirrup]

yeah i’ve said this in the past

dimms are cooler on amd because they’re literally doing less work. you can compare the power draw of the dimms

[topaz veldt]

yep

[turbid locust]

yes yes AMD bad we fucking get it Jesus Christ

[merry stirrup]

work = watts it’s that simple

[merry stirrup]

amd not bad but it is something to be aware of

what i wonder is why trfc is so bad on some ics on amd

but not intel

[turbid locust]

flops we joking

also @merry stirrup I don’t mean to alarm you but… try VDDQ, IMC, and TX synced

[merry stirrup]

i am

you caught me at a ycruncher time

[pallid marsh]

isnt that a daily thing for you?

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[turbid locust]

I’m currently on the longest 9K Karhu run I’ve gotten on this platform

[arctic bronze]

bros crunchin them Y's

[merry stirrup]

i’ll try 9133 then

[topaz veldt]

whats all your settings pls

[merry stirrup]

lol

[turbid locust]

fr?

[topaz veldt]

yah - I nuked my profile

So now I start all over

@turbid locust save your CMO file

or your txt file

[turbid locust]

Timings wise it’s just the 9K H24M profile

Voltages are 1.4v SA, 1.55v VDD, 1.45v IMC, ram VDDQ, and cpu VDDQ/tx

[topaz veldt]

is CPU VDDQ/TX under advanced I forget

[brisk jolt]

what speed are we talking at like 1.45 and 1.5

[merry stirrup]

for what

[brisk jolt]

gear 2

[topaz veldt]

depends on kit

[brisk jolt]

h16a 6kc26

1.45v

im running it at 8000 but theres prob alotta room for it from what i understand from ur conversations

[topaz veldt]

8000 what though

[brisk jolt]

C38

[topaz veldt]

I'd try for like 32 or 34

[brisk jolt]

Not higher speed?

[turbid locust]

Yeah like the second one in advanced

[topaz veldt]

higher speed on a b760?

[brisk jolt]

I just copied the profile from a h24m kit

b860i arl

[topaz veldt]

b860 sorry

I mean you can try - not sure how good those are for 1DPC

[brisk jolt]

the max the mobo’s going is 9k

[turbid locust]

If you want a board for just mem oc the Z890i Nova is alright

[brisk jolt]

im not finding that like anywhere

I checked another shop the other day that had it listed on their price list and its OOS

not to mention, a ram fan is not possible unless i get like a 30mm one

[topaz veldt]

the novas are basically OOS anymore

[turbid locust]

on US Amazon rn

[brisk jolt]

theres this guy selling one but only in a bundle

[turbid locust]

Satsuna where do you live again

[brisk jolt]

singapore

[turbid locust]

ah

Chat how much does it cost to ship something to Singapore lmao

[brisk jolt]

i need to be more worried about temps bcs the ambient temp is hella hot

[brisk jolt]

I ordered a cableset and dude’s shipping was $20USD

[topaz veldt]

VNNAON 0.77v auto?

@turbid locust bro I don't fugging see CPU VDDQ/TX

[arctic bronze]

just open your eyes then

[turbid locust]

Oh I have that at 1.1v but no D2D oc yet so maybe unnecessary

[turbid locust]

It’s like the second from the top in advanced. Says VDDQ

[topaz veldt]

VDDQ Voltage Override?

[turbid locust]

can you send a pic

that sounds right I just wanna be sure

It’ll say “defaults to 1.1v” at the bottom

[topaz veldt]

not that one

[turbid locust]

up one

yeah the second one there

[topaz veldt]

yah sorry wrong one highlighted

[turbid locust]

@merry stirrup hit 1hr karhu

note: I am running those random terminations I was given in hwbot that one time

[merry stirrup]

so… am i tweaking

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

[merry stirrup]

it’s not liquid so…

do i just forget about it until i have problems cause it’s gonna be in warranty anyways

[brisk jolt]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MSI_Gaming/s/7shyL4MbBP

[pallid marsh]

i blame the reddit user for buying a gpu known to burning up (the rtx 5090)

[turbid locust]

suppose every 5090 owner is an idiot

[pallid marsh]

for sure

[brisk jolt]

his first mistake was buying from MSI and supporting the fuckass yellow cable

highk im gonna start dailying the 265K and 5070Ti once I finish all the extras and tuning

[pallid marsh]

all the smart people buy arc b580s and rx 9070xt

[turbid locust]

too slow

[brisk jolt]

being smart has never stopped me from being a fucking idiot

[pallid marsh]

did you buy the scented gpu?

[brisk jolt]

its sold off

I wouldve kept it if actually could fit in the T1

[livid flame]

Well they paid $3k+ for a gpu… It’s like the equivalent of buying a handbag for 3k I guess

[brisk jolt]

When I got my 5090 the 9070XT’s only purpose was for expedition 33

but TAA sucked shit and the game didnt have FSR at the time

[turbid locust]

assumptions aren’t a good look man

[livid flame]

Well it’s a luxury item

[turbid locust]

most things are

[livid flame]

Just like a handbag from luis vutton with similar value

[turbid locust]

what phone do you have

[livid flame]

I think it’s a decent comparison

Uh I have an iPhone 15 and an iPhone 16SE

[turbid locust]

why not a budget android

[livid flame]

One is cheap, the other is free.

iPhone eco system for work

[turbid locust]

I just think it’s a false equivalency really

[livid flame]

The personal one is because I don’t like android

Just find it’s less user friendly and I mainly use my phone for video calling, texting and osrs

Realistically osrs is the better option for me on android. The other 2, android doesn’t do as well.

[turbid locust]

missing the point really lol

I don’t actually care what phone you have I was just making a point

[livid flame]

Well the iPhone does basics better than the android

[turbid locust]

the 5090 runs games better than the 5070Ti

[livid flame]

The handbag and the 5090 do the basics the same as something of much cheaper price

[turbid locust]

suppose we should all just run 1080Ti’s then

[topaz veldt]

lolwut

[livid flame]

And android phones have too many fragmented models and brands

It’s a minefield for future and current support

[turbid locust]

Again I don’t give a fuck about the phones lmao

[pallid marsh]

nah 2080ti

[livid flame]

You’re just missing the point

[turbid locust]

Reputable oc’er listed some apex terminations one time in hwbot and I slammed them in and it helped stability a little

[turbid locust]

I’m not lol

[livid flame]

No one actually needs a 5090

[low sorrel]

@merry stirrup i killed a level 40 :D

[livid flame]

Besides. My iPhone costs less than a 5070ti. It’s a bad comparison.

[turbid locust]

nobody actually “needs” most things

[pallid marsh]

my heart will give out if i dont have one

no gpu needs 12V-2x6

[pallid marsh]

is that not 41?

[topaz veldt]

got a link?

[turbid locust]

I’ll see if I can find it. I think Floppa sent some screenshots after he entered them, you’ll just have to transpose them to apex.

[livid flame]

A 5090 could end up being a bargain if the rumours are true that consumer GPUs won’t get full core count on die going forward and that’s reserved for AI GPU though. Time will tell

[turbid locust]

5090 isn’t a full core count die

[turbid locust]

Apex has some of those split into a different advanced submenu

[livid flame]

It’s not far enough from the full count to be considered a part product

[pallid marsh]

we just need 4 8pins

[turbid locust]

at what point do you think your opinion is more truthful than literal numbers

[livid flame]

Someone was telling me last week about potential 80% being the max for non AI consumer cards in 60 series

[turbid locust]

I think the ones starting from RTT CA down are in an advanced menu

someone’s mad

[pallid marsh]

wish AMD gave us a Ryzen 3 am5 cpu we can buy over the Ryzen 7 9850X3D

[turbid locust]

real

[livid flame]

Ah warshipped. Nah just wondered why you’re a massive asshole. But it’s okay, I guess you just follow the leader of your nation in attitude and being a general cockwomble

[turbid locust]

where’s my 9300x

[turbid locust]

Ok

[pallid marsh]

i want a ryzen 3 2200g type of cpu now

[turbid locust]

I have some Zen 2 APU somewhere

[turbid locust]

Sorry? I guess?

Anyways

[teal orbit]

wtf is happening

[turbid locust]

A question I ask every day

[pallid marsh]

was the last ryzen 3 cpu we could buy the r3 4100?

[turbid locust]

I think so

Iirc there was no Ryzen 3 Zen 3 chip

[topaz veldt]

I am sort of back to where I was w/ 8600

8600 CL38... its like... 8.8ns

[turbid locust]

well… I guess I go to bed now

[topaz veldt]

lucky dork

[pure garnet]

is that 9k

[topaz veldt]

Mine was stable and now I lost it 🙁

[turbid locust]

@merry stirrup @pure garnet

[turbid locust]

yeah

[pure garnet]

what crashes

voltages***

i can’t take my ocf out till tuesday bc work schedule sucks but i wanna get back on it

[turbid locust]

1.4v SA, 1.45v IMC, VDDQ, and CPU TX, and 1.55v VDD

[pure garnet]

oh i never tried that much imc i think

i’ll try that next time

[turbid locust]

The theoretical test was seeing if syncing IMC, VDDQ, and cpu tx would do anything and uh…

let’s say previous Karhu PB was 25ish mins

[pure garnet]

i’ve yet to even get 1b running so

my chip probably won’t daily 9000

[turbid locust]

I’m not sure this high is necessary it’s just what I was running before

[brisk jolt]

My turn to try

[turbid locust]

anyways I go to bed. GN. 9850X3D results in the morning.

[pure garnet]

gl

[pure garnet]

1.4 gets me into windows but fails at load

1.45v sa changes nothing

so i’ll play with imc

[turbid locust]

I think 1.45v IMC is like the upper limit

[turbid locust]

Don’t go above 1.4v SA

[pure garnet]

i mean i’m just going for passes on that platform

it autos to 1.45 so

[topaz veldt]

nah

[turbid locust]

Hmm

[topaz veldt]

dudes are running > 1.50v MC

Long term? No idea

meh

[pure garnet]

why didn’t you change the allocator/framework

[topaz veldt]

🤷‍♂️

[native idol]

Anyone here know a bit of linux

I’m trying to get my nvidia gpu to be able to run both of my monitors on a dual boot system

[pallid marsh]

#linux .......

[native idol]

Mb apparently it wasn’t on my channel list or smth? Would’ve gone there if I saw it.

[merry stirrup]

my computer is back together

[burnt socket]

did 9800x3d prices drop yet

[pure garnet]

why would they

[brisk jolt]

stupidly enough 9800x3d here on a retailer went back to MSRP

could literally find below msrp everywhere else

i have the urge to really get h24m but I cant see myself doing it bcs its helluva overpriced

[placid swift]

Is this normal? I haven't started the PSU

[brisk jolt]

did you push it in and hear a click

[placid swift]

Ya I think, the clip is up

[brisk jolt]

if it is, check if it turns on and boots as a display

[placid swift]

Ok I will do last min checks before that thanks

Is it true that I should first boot with one stick of ram

[brisk jolt]

just do both

[lethal topaz]

your gpu isnt screwed in by the bracket so likely normal. try not to move it too much as you could break the slot or the pcb

[merry stirrup]

okie im callin this good

[tender python]

yo guys this is my temps while running clair obscur, is the cpu temp too high?

[livid flame]

You have a tjmax of 90c

You’re maxxing your system out. Can’t expect too much more really

[brisk jolt]

weak

[livid flame]

You put that in one of your super SFF shoe boxes?

Hitting 105c at 165w is impressive

[oak vector]

Mini space heater

[burnt socket]

fry some eggs

[merry stirrup]

i have created hype

DDR4-5000

[burnt socket]

not the 3am overclocking 💀

[merry stirrup]

4:30am

[burnt socket]

doesnt help

[shell void]

more bandwidth than my 9800x3d

[merry stirrup]

just got it to boot 5k without the bclk 🙏

[merry stirrup]

nicer

[edgy laurel]

[woven adder]

im curious how discord bots work can

[burnt socket]

meanwhile i needed to clear my cmos at 101 mhz bclk

am i supposed to use a less aggressive expo for it

[fervent chasm]

Wdym

[woven adder]

i want to know how they work

[fervent chasm]

It’s just code, Python for example

[woven adder]

and where does it run

[fervent chasm]

On a computer

You could run it on your own computer

The major discord bots run probably on AWS

[woven adder]

where can i find one

[fervent chasm]

Find what

[woven adder]

a free bot

[fervent chasm]

I wouldn’t trust anything “free”, there’s a lot of malicious bots

[woven adder]

how much one costs ? can you buy one or do you have to make a custom one for a server

[livid flame]

How may errors

[fervent chasm]

Oh I meant free ones that you run yourself, there’s tons of free ones like MEE6 you don’t have to run yourself you just add them to your server

[livid flame]

Mee6 and rhythm are all the bots you need

[fervent chasm]

https://top.gg/list/top

If you sort by total invites, those are the most used

[brisk jolt]

im throttled at like max 170-180w rn

[topaz veldt]

9850X3D or 9950X3D

[woven adder]

ok

[livid flame]

99

And pair it with a 6 7 hundred XT… I’m just joshing don’t do that

[brisk jolt]

Play with both

im currently trying 8000 C34 1.47v

errored

[topaz veldt]

It will take more volts than that

[brisk jolt]

yeah im advancing straight to 1.5

i dont think i can daily 8600 in the ITX since I’d need like a 40mm fan

perhaps even till as small as 30mm

for IMC i set it at 1.4v

[topaz veldt]

Fwiw 8000 CL32 talese 1.6v

[brisk jolt]

this is using the CU version

[topaz veldt]

Takes me*

[brisk jolt]

h16a cl26 kit?

[topaz veldt]

Yes

[brisk jolt]

jesus thats high

[merry stirrup]

didnt even test it lol

[topaz veldt]

That's what it takes

8000 CL30 bzoid running like 1.65-1.7

[merry stirrup]

i thought above 4933 was impossible on this board and idk i randomly put in 2 sticks of mismatched rev.e and started going ham

i got 5100 into windows

[brisk jolt]

i think if i dedicated higher voltages and a actual ramfan to it its very likely it can do 8600

[topaz veldt]

Ram fan in ITX is useless

[brisk jolt]

bcs of the natural state of its airflow?

[topaz veldt]

Yep

And space

[brisk jolt]

thats what im thinking too behind

the most i can do is put hella powerful exhaust fans and maybe an outside fan to it but that'd be nonsensical

[topaz veldt]

You can remove the setup from the SFF case and bench stabilize it

And then see if those settings work inside the case

[brisk jolt]

Yeah thats what I meant by this statement here

Work inside the case? I’d need to relax on that

Looks like C5 vs C5 CU is 165w vs 175w

[topaz veldt]

CPU temp doesn't really matter with ram

You're going to have to power limit the CPU

[brisk jolt]

Im setting short burst 150 and long time to 125

[merry stirrup]

much nicer to look at

[brisk jolt]

yay it errored again

@topaz veldt do I push higher voltages above 1.5? might be tough in this hotbox

[merry stirrup]

adjust refi and rfc accordingly and there will be no problem with heat

ive seen people do 70+c configs on d5 with moderate freq's

[carmine lark]

https://www.mchose.store/products/mchose-l7-series-ultra-lightweight-wireless-gaming-mouse?variant=50181718376743

This any good?

[brisk jolt]

alr bet im gonna try 1.55 and see what I can do

hell nah 1.55 isnt gonna cut it

[topaz veldt]

Your kit may also not be up for it

[turbid locust]

lol it literally errored 9 mins after I said I was going to sleep

[brisk jolt]

I BSOD’d booting right into windows

[turbid locust]

But still 20 mins to 2 hours 14 mins from just adjusting voltages is sick

The IMC, VDDQ, tx sync is def valid

[topaz veldt]

Mhmm

[topaz veldt]

Now the wtfisms will occur

[turbid locust]

It’s Intel, the wtfisms are built in

5nail you at microcenter yet? lol

[topaz veldt]

Like my 9000 CL40 that worked for months and now I can't figure out wtf I did

[turbid locust]

Best Buy still doesn’t even have a product listing for it so uh I think my odds are slim

[topaz veldt]

Neither does Micro Center to be fair

[turbid locust]

[topaz veldt]

@turbid locust 9850X3D for the weird minority or 9950X3D?

[lost halo]

chat what do you say about buying a galaxy s22 ultra in 2026

is it hard to flash a ROM on an exynos chip?

[woven adder]

depends whats it gonna be used for, the budget etc

[turbid locust]

minority brothers

[lost halo]

it costs like 300 euros on amazon

this is not a budget issue

[woven adder]

what are you gonna use it for

[lost halo]

just casual use; navigation, communications, some reading and balatro on occasion

im mostly considering it for the stylus

basically what im asking is if the age is an issue

and how hard is it to flash a rom on an exynos

[woven adder]

are you getting a refurbished one?

[lost halo]

i dont know actually

[topaz veldt]

Nothing like getting a PayPal invoice paid that you forgot about

[woven adder]

tru

[woven adder]

for how long did you forgot about it

[topaz veldt]

Damn, my MC has zero 5090s

[topaz veldt]

I sent it net 30 so prob 28-29 days ago lol

[woven adder]

s22 u is an excellent phone even today i would suggest dig around eve more look at s23 s24 thay might offer better value. s24 u specifically those are great phones and you can find tham at a very good price used or refurbised by a trusted comapny

[topaz veldt]

I have an s24 ultra with a broken screen

[cosmic gazelle]

@lost halo i would browse xda and make sure you’re confident the model you’re buying can have its bootloader unlocked consistently

some models can be temperamental

the snapdragon one would probably be easier

[turbid locust]

Best Buy doesn’t have any 9850X3Ds or even listings that the cpu exists we’re so lit

[shell void]

an hour later and the 9850X3D is still in stock everywhere online

[shell void]

nobody gives a FRICK about this launch XDDDDD

9800X3D was OOS super fast

[devout ridge]

no one cares about that 1.1% improvement over the 9800x3d

[shell void]

you must get it to 5.8GHz 🙏

[devout ridge]

at 1080p

[topaz veldt]

Nah dude. Micro Center sat on tons and tons of them for like 2 months

[devout ridge]

.5% at 4k ultra

[topaz veldt]

I walked into Micro Center and bought my 9800 x3ds twice with no line or anything and stacks of them behind the counter

[shell void]

i don’t have MC within 6 hours of me so idk

but i remember it being not immediately easy to order one online

[devout ridge]

my SAS HBA finally arrived!

now we get to see how fast 24 SAS HDDs are

[shell void]

are they saving it for when arrow lake refresh drops so that they can steal some news coverage ?

[devout ridge]

"oh you think 16c intel is cool? what about 16 core AMD x3d?"

[young void]

[topaz veldt]

I'll get one or two

[brisk jolt]

please boot

265k: no

[wraith steeple]

[turbid locust]

I need ARL refresh to be like $4

[hoary hatch]

How about 52 core Intel bLLC

[hoary hatch]

I'd buy a dozen 290K plus for $4/each

[topaz veldt]

I don't know if I'm going to get a 290k

[placid swift]

I just post bios for the first time

Let's go

[cosmic gazelle]

just sayin this is the most optimal gaming setup

1024mb l3 cache

[topaz veldt]

Its not

[slim pebble]

I’ll say I won’t and then probably buy one

[cosmic gazelle]

fake news, check the benchmark data

1400fps cs2 ultra settings

[slim pebble]

I wish, that’ll send me back to Intel’s camp

[hoary hatch]

It's still rumored for Nova lake

But nothing confirmed

[vivid kiln]

What are the current "best" laptop reviewers? We're adding a new division and the laptops we typically use are not going to be ideal for them.

[cosmic gazelle]

hw canucks have some good stuff iirc

[hoary hatch]

Those weird Canadians are decent for laptop reviews

[cosmic gazelle]

@vivid kiln do you just need horsepower or does this division of yours need non-throughput related features

[vivid kiln]

That's where I started, but he doesn't have reviews on three out of the five laptops we're considering

[hoary hatch]

So the issue is there are like 2000 different laptops out there

[cosmic gazelle]

because for work related scenarios, if 5 laptops have the same processor and graphics they are going to be 99.5% the same

[vivid kiln]

It needs a good balance of everything. We're basically looking for a MacBook, but Windows.

Can't be from Dell, HP, or Asus

[cosmic gazelle]

you need dgpu or no

[hoary hatch]

Can't?

[cosmic gazelle]

also why not from those brands lmao

those brands have some great laptops

[hoary hatch]

Is there a lunar lake x1 carbon

Or if you can wait just a little, panther lake is coming out

[vivid kiln]

That's where I'm at right now, the only lunar lake ThinkPad we found is X9 15. ThinkPad is an option, so we've been trying to compare those, but not many people seem to have great data on the X9

X1 Carbons all seem to be arrow lake

[hoary hatch]

I see

[cosmic gazelle]

i'm going to see myself out of this conversation because i feel like we're splitting hairs

[hoary hatch]

Arrow lake is more performant but less battery life

Panther lake should be a happy middle spot

[vivid kiln]

And battery life is important in this regard. We had a similar team that we purchased Surface Studio laptops for, but it was an absolute disaster battery life wise

[hoary hatch]

A bit less efficient due than lunar lake due to no memory on package, but performance closer to arrow lake

[vivid kiln]

Great screens and build quality, but the battery made them unusable

[hoary hatch]

Surface studio was such a weird product

[vivid kiln]

We figured it would save time/energy having a drawing tablet type experience instead of everybody needing to cart around Wacom tablets, but it was a bad call lol

[hoary hatch]

Let's say battery life wasn't an issue; would it have replaced the Wacom?

Sometimes people are so used to a certain workflow

[vivid kiln]

Isn't that still a few months out? I might put a request through, but we'd probably end up buying a bunch of Arrow lake laptops tomorrow and then switching to Panther in a few months and having to sell off all the Arrow ones

[gentle gale]

i believe you can buy them?

if not maybe later this quarter or q2

[vivid kiln]

It definitely was an upgrade. Wacom's drivers are awful

Having the pen tech built in was nice

[hoary hatch]

They're available for preorder I think so the laptops should be out soonish?

But if battery life is primary goal anyways, LNL devices should be fine

I don't know your workflow so I'm not sure how much compute is required

[turbid locust]

@shell void @pure garnet @merry stirrup 9850X3D will be here Sunday

[hoary hatch]

Are we taking bets how many 9850x3ds he buys

[young void]

Lmao

[grizzled lily]

i need ps5 jailbreak material

[hoary hatch]

Why are you asking here

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/starwarsday-gif-5413758

[topaz veldt]

My 9850X3D is 5.9 stable

[pure garnet]

no stock at best buy?

[turbid locust]

Literally zero at both stores lmao

“We might get some on the truck this weekend” bro fuck you lmao

[hoary hatch]

That doesn't surprise in the slightest

[turbid locust]

My fault for thinking the tech store would have tech

[turbid locust]

stfu

[hoary hatch]

It's best buy bro

TVs and phones they get on day 1

Diy PC stuff is still an afterthought for them

[turbid locust]

bring back radio shack

[hoary hatch]

The last time I was at radio shack I got a big ass pack of AAs that I used for 5 years

I think it was like 2010 or 2011 not super sure tho

Actually that's the only thing I've ever had from radio shack was batteries

[turbid locust]

Skatterbencher was able to get a 5.85Ghz daily tune

[pure garnet]

i got a 6.2 bin otw

[cosmic gazelle]

wonder if the steam machine will have a bespoke 3d vcache cpu

would help their value proposition

[pure garnet]

@turbid locust is that thing seby said about the batches real

cause my chip doesn’t seem to follow it

[turbid locust]

I’m not sure tbh lol

Floppa and I both have that batch though

[pure garnet]

i do too

[turbid locust]

but dailying 9800 seems insane

[turbid locust]

maybe he’s trolling lmao

[pure garnet]

well that’d be g4 wouldn’t it

[turbid locust]

nobody talks about g4

[pure garnet]

i don’t see a single x5 batch listed for sale on ebay so

maybe it slightly desirable idk

[vivid kiln]

It's a mix of performance and battery. Medium 3D workload, heavy 2D workload, plenty of browser and email stuff

[hoary hatch]

Lol sounds like the new Core ultra x7 would be great for you

[vivid kiln]

Okay, sweet. Hopefully Lenovo or another brand that we buy from actually carries them this time around lol

The lunar lake selection is sad

[shell void]

[pure garnet]

world first 5600 bin

[shell void]

did a lil stability recheck after running the same timings for the last 6+ months, we STILL GOOD 🗣️

[pure garnet]

oh how you come you dropped down to 6000

[livid flame]

Stability

[young void]

Be like that sometimes, tight is good

[turbid locust]

stability is stability regardless. Just needs to be tested

[pure garnet]

yeah i have 6400 stable and he did before

[turbid locust]

No point in dropping to 6K when 6400 is fine

[shell void]

just felt like it tbh

no real reason, the 6400 config works too

[turbid locust]

The real question is why 2000 FCLK

3:2 is a meme

[shell void]

6000 and 2000 is looking good to my monkey brain rn

[livid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-brain-monkey-gif-11098413

[turbid locust]

poser

[young void]

XD

[shell void]

it is mildly humorous to purposefully run a lower speed knowing that i can easily do 6400

[turbid locust]

Mike running his good IMC bin at 6000 is the equivalent to seeing me piss in the floor and then rubbing my face in the carpet

[pure garnet]

i wanna see my 265k do 9k

[livid flame]

I thought that was standard for you Mac

[turbid locust]

I don’t even know who you are

[turbid locust]

sync IMC, VDDQ, and tx trust

[cosmic gazelle]

would a 265k with 9k ram take less than 4 minutes to load out of a streets of tarkov raid perhaps

[pure garnet]

well i had them synced at 1.4v and it booted she just didn’t like it

[turbid locust]

rip

[livid flame]

Well I know who you are now

[pure garnet]

so i’ll try more voltage next go

[shell void]

one of these days ill finish the 4x32 6000 config that i get bored of every time i try

[pure garnet]

i’m just stuck not touching it till Tuesday bc work

if i can get 9000 stable i might daily the ocf for aura reasons

if it’s just bench stable then i’ll keep the x3d

[shell void]

(i wont because it overheats and im not blasting my fan or removing the heatspreaders)

im also not running lower than 65535 trefi because that's the single most important adjustment

[pure garnet]

isn’t 50k way easier and like a minimal loss

[shell void]

easier probably but idk exactly how much performance you lose

[cosmic gazelle]

wait can you not even do 6000 on 4 sticks?

i didn't know 4 sticks was THAT bad

[shell void]

i can

the dimms get too hot to maintain tight refresh intervals because four dualrank dimms with crappy heatspreaders is a bonfire

but my cpu can do it no problem

[cosmic gazelle]

i'm obviously no expert here but the whole 4 sticks being way worse thing seems like a pretty big design flaw

[pure garnet]

well if you have a solution for signal integrity i’m sure jedec would be happy to hear it

[shell void]

multiple dimms per channel is just suboptimal and that's how it will always be

[brave panther]

just the voltage conversion on top of the dimm gets hot right

[cosmic gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-lateralus-parabol-third-eye-tool-gif-16499016

[pure garnet]

michael is that h24m kit of yours in use at all

[cosmic gazelle]

me when i solve signal integrity

[brave panther]

quantum entanglement

[shell void]

it runs at 5600 jedec 1.1v in the taichi

my second 2x32 a-die kit is unused

[pure garnet]

i need another ram kit

but ebay be like $300 for greenies

[shell void]

from what i understand the SPD Hub can handle high temps just fine, it's the actual memory chips that overheat, especially if youre reducing their refresh cycles

[cosmic gazelle]

i want a motherboard that lets me use shitty EMMC chips pulled out of phones as my ram, but manufacturers keep telling me it's """"not fast enough"""" and has """"too much latency""""

pah i say

[turbid locust]

I wanna try 4x16 single rank H16A shit sometime on my one singular 2dpc board

[shell void]

how many frickin pcs do u have in use rn?

[pure garnet]

uhhh

[shell void]

should be ezpz for you

[pure garnet]

2-3 depending on the day but 1 uses ddr4

[devout ridge]

Package!

[brave panther]

yes, but spd hub makes the most heat on ddr5
which isnt an issue on servers due to huge airflow across them but on desktop they get tosty

[devout ridge]

now to download the latest truenas ISO for the billionth time cause i don't remember which USB has it

[shell void]

i "need" all three of my kits because ill be getting Z990 later this year

[topaz veldt]

Alright! It's not a @turbid locust bin

[shell void]

[cosmic gazelle]

can’t run 8k g1, return it

[turbid locust]

ok I have/had multiple chips that can do 8000

you’re trolling

do 6400

[pure garnet]

can't basically every chip do 8000 with 2000 fclk

[shell void]

gear 1 on 1dpc is the real troll

[pure garnet]

even my crap bin 7800x3d does 8000 fine

only took 3 motherboards

[cosmic gazelle]

does anyone understand networking hardware and why this thing is so expensive

[devout ridge]

2000FCLK at 8000mt/s is Gear 2 right?

[pure garnet]

well you just look at the uclk

[devout ridge]

Since the memory is twice the frequency of the fabric

[cosmic gazelle]

fclk isn’t necessarily tied to gear

[pure garnet]

if the mclk and the uclk isn't 1:1 it's 2:1

[shell void]

the fabric is independent

[cosmic gazelle]

fclk can be changed independently

[devout ridge]

Oh got it

[pure garnet]

see

4000 mem clock 2000 imc clock

[cosmic gazelle]

for example i’m at mclk and uclk 3100 and fclk 2167 because the internet told me that was a good number

https://tenor.com/view/brain-gif-338783462287106063

[devout ridge]

MCLK= Memory Clock
FCLK= Fabric clock (essentially the connector clockspeed right?)
UCLK= IMC clock

[pure garnet]

yeah

[devout ridge]

Gear two means MCLK is 2x what UCLK is, but FCLK can vary regardless of gear?

[brisk jolt]

The clock on the wall displays the time

may or may not be accurate

[pure garnet]

im looking at the mpower header layout and it would look disgusting in my case

[pure garnet]

yeah

[devout ridge]

learn something new every day

[shell void]

gear 2 will be the standard for zen 6 and onward so this confusion will disappear

there will be no incentive to run gear 1 once they fix the fabric

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah old school ryzen fclk had very little variability without causing instability which is what makes it more confusing

[pure garnet]

you run interconnect in either a 3:2:2 or 2:1:1 sync if you want a small latency gain or else as high as it can go

[turbid locust]

no lmao

my 9800X3D hard power cycled at 8000 under any load

[pure garnet]

ouch

i've never seen a chip that bad

[devout ridge]

those ratios being MCLK:FCLK:UCLK?

[pure garnet]

yeah

most 6000 setups run 3000:2000:2000

[turbid locust]

the ratios don’t matter a whole lot I’m ngl

[devout ridge]

Would 3:2:2 be like gear "1.5"?

[turbid locust]

cracking FCLK as high as it’ll go is almost always better

[devout ridge]

or is anything <2 "gear 1"

[pure garnet]

no it's just synced for a small latency gain

[cosmic gazelle]

you’re either one or the other

[pure garnet]

anything with mclk=uclk is gear 1

[turbid locust]

for Aida number and that’s about it

[devout ridge]

My question is that MCLK is 1.5x UCLK in 3:2:2

[shell void]

gears are the ratio of memory clock to memory controller clock, the infinity fabric clockspeed is independent and irrelevant

it's difficult to stability test the infinity fabric so it's recommended to just leave it at 2000 with a basic ddr5 6000 setup

[pure garnet]

why is the usb 3 in the middle of the pcb at the bottom

[devout ridge]

yeah but in 3:2:2 it's still the MCLK being 1.5x the UCLK is it not?

[pure garnet]

they call it 3:2:2 because for the most part it's just 3000 2000 2000 being the config amd says 90% of chips can run

[devout ridge]

So what Gear is that?

[cosmic gazelle]

what the hell is an 8 pin doing down there

[shell void]

there is no such thing as gear1.5

[pure garnet]

1

[shell void]

there is only 1/2/4

[pure garnet]

oh wait im writing it wrong

misinfo spreader

[shell void]

kyoko is confusing you with misinformation

this is 6000 gear 1

[devout ridge]

OH!

Okay that's why i was confused lol

[cosmic gazelle]

if you have 6000mt/s ram your uclk is either 3000 or 1500 i believe

[pure garnet]

my fault

[cosmic gazelle]

is that right?

[pure garnet]

3:2:3 not 3:2:2

[devout ridge]

Got it!

Okay that makes a lot more sense

[pure garnet]

woke up with the mission to spread ryzen ram misinfo

[cosmic gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[devout ridge]

So yeah that's what I'm running RN

it's essentially just XMP plus a few small minor changes Floppa recommended

[cosmic gazelle]

it’s okay. asking AI how to config your ram on d5 ryzen just leads to it telling you to set fclk to 3000 and wondering why your bios is booting into safe mode

[pure garnet]

the gene has it in the right spot, common msi L

[topaz veldt]

LOL as expected

[shell void]

in GN testing it was only like 50MHz higher allcore xD

[cosmic gazelle]

realistically unless you’re in a super mega cpu/memory bound scenario you aren’t gonna need to worry about your ram any further than that

these guys just like being freaky

[devout ridge]

Yeah, I've largely left my PC stock as far as OC goes

my CPU is at a -20mv offset because SFF though

• PBO

[cosmic gazelle]

fun fact on a b650e out of the box with pbo disabled a 9800 gets 19000 points here

[devout ridge]

GPU is bonestock, literally zero changes there, haven't even adjusted the fan curve

[shell void]

i just did it for fun, and AM5 memory OC is extremely easy because it's widely documented

[devout ridge]

4080S FE ships great as is

[shell void]

ill probably run 8000 with jedec timings on nova lake until floppa can spoonfeed me information

[pure garnet]

gpu oc is lame anyway

[cosmic gazelle]

trying to oc a modern nvidia gpu is literally sisyphus

[devout ridge]

GPU OC would be kind of nice in my case, since i'm heavily GPU limited

VR is no joke for GPU demand

[cosmic gazelle]

more voltage -> same sustained clocks -> back to square one

[shell void]

youd probably see the most gains in VR from boosting vram clock

5090 brutally mogs 4090 in VR because of memory bandwidth

[devout ridge]

If there's any reduction in framerate consistency, it entirely negates any frame rate improvement for me in VR

VR is the one time where framerate consistency matters a lot for me

[turbid locust]

Don’t worry about it

[devout ridge]

i don't super notice it in most desktop games, but it can make me nauseous if it's hitching every couple seconds in VR

[cosmic gazelle]

you should look at GN’s results with 4800 mts ram on the 9850- in some titles the 1% lows are HIGHER

[devout ridge]

That was an issue on one of the drivers that came out right after the 50 series release, i had to downgrade the drivers cause VR made me legit nauseous with the inconsistent frame timings

[cosmic gazelle]

obviously some margin of error stuff but still

[devout ridge]

Average Frame Rate stayed the same, but it was super inconsistent

made 90fps feel like 10

[pure garnet]

i am going to worry about it

[devout ridge]

In the end i don't really care all that much, my PC performs more than well enough in everything I play, so i'm happy

I just like my desktop to work, i have my servers to tinker with

Speaking of, lemme go install my new HBA and install TrueNAS so i can see if all my HDDs are alive or not

[turbid locust]

Board probably auto’d tighter subs at lower speed

[shell void]

this is completely backwards but amusing

[pure garnet]

z890 ocf best board for jedec since it autos smarter

[devout ridge]

i have one server that i don’t touch as it’s my main NAS that i like to work, i have a couple other servers to tinker with

[steel stream]

@turbid locust did you get a 9850 today

[topaz veldt]

Touchy subject @steel stream

[steel stream]

oh shit

[pure garnet]

best buy let him down (its not listed on their site yet)

[shell void]

@turbid locust did you see that snail’s 9850 can run 8600mt/s and hold 5825MHz in game?

[steel stream]

I am sorry for your loss Mr. macse7en 🫡

[topaz veldt]

@turbid locust so it would seem either the silicon is just better or AMD is binning these 9850X3Ds in some context at least absed on my observations. My 9800X3D was an SP114 - granted the VID table references 5225 MHz, but my 9850X3D is SP121 based on ASUS assessment.

[pure garnet]

dropping the 9850x3d in this bad boy to run 6000 1:1

[steel stream]

i would assume just binning with my AMD knowledge

idk if they would bother with better more expensive silicon when they could just bin chiplets they already have

[topaz veldt]

Well maybe the process improved

Or what if there was always binning because of 9950X3D but not as many 9950X3D sales, so they invented the 9850X3D which is a 9950X3D w/o the non-3D

[turbid locust]

BB didn’t have any physical stock, ordered one on Amazon. It’ll be here Sunday.

[turbid locust]

I think this is the actual reason

[steel stream]

agony. pain. misery.

[topaz veldt]

I don't want to jinx Macs Amazon CPU so I won't say what I want to say

[turbid locust]

I mean if it makes you feel better, scaling past like 8600 isn’t much on ARL lol

[turbid locust]

I’m keeping it regardless if it’s shit or not

[topaz veldt]

My 8600 tune on ARL does 135 GB/s and my 9000 did 137 lool

[topaz veldt]

yeah amazon 9950X3D was the only CPU I ever had that was ass

[steel stream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUQsqBqxoR4

[turbid locust]

All of my AM5 chips besides my 7700x have been from Amazon so maybe

[leaden dawn]

Forgot about that song lmao

[turbid locust]

Well, my 2nd 9800X3D I tried was from Best Buy and it’s arguably my worst Zen 5 IMC roll

[topaz veldt]

My only good CPUs have come from Micro Center

coincidence probably

[turbid locust]

I’m not driving 4 hours every time I want a cpu

[topaz veldt]

granted I also just started getting all my CPUs there

so prob a useless metric

[turbid locust]

My 7700x was from microcenter and that fucker can’t even boot 6400 and it shuts down under load at 8000

BUT that chip has only seen the HDV. Maybe I revisit it on a good board.

My Gene is out for delivery today too. Would’ve been a perfect combo with the 9850X3D

[turbid locust]

Yeah baby that’s what the extra $30 is for

[topaz veldt]

hellll yeah