tech-chat-2

[livid flame]

Gotta have 3d cache on 3 CCDs, a 4090 iGPU and 32gb ddr5 for $500 then you might get a bone-er

And they’ll sell out of ARC cards before any 5050’s reach the till

[round stirrup]

I.. bought the 5050.. lol.

[livid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/look-at-him-efe-omowale-assisted-living-he-look-so-funny-haha-gif-24147865

[round stirrup]

in my defense, I was switching to bazzite and i'd heard some not to happy things about intel gpu's in linux so...

[livid flame]

Why didn’t you just buy rdna2 used?

Good choice for Linux at that price point

[topaz veldt]

we got the power

[round stirrup]

AMD was my first choice.. they had none, well nothing under 2 grand anyways

[livid flame]

Yikes

You live in a state sponsored by Nvidia then

[wraith steeple]

Oh nono, tech in general

[livid flame]

Ohh that’s fair enough bass

[round stirrup]

I had one bookmarked and ready to go, got to the store and it was gone off the shelf, lol.

[shell void]

13900K owners still having no meaningful upgrade four years later

[livid flame]

Tech is boring.. I mean it’s all… Aaaaaaayyyh Eyyyyyeeee

The most exciting thing is seeing Steve’s split personalities in his documentaries on GN. I personally looking forward the unreleased one where he’s going to have his channel shut down by Nvidia/US government and possibly jail time

[round stirrup]

besides, I was upgrading from a 1050 lol (yes its been that long) the 5050 is like a ferrari to me right now lol.

I do like intel's names for the cards though, "Battlemage" sounds cool as heck. considering I used to play that kind of class in the MMO days.

meanwhile AMD's numbering scheme still confuses me, I can never remember how to tell by the numbers what gen it even is.

[topaz veldt]

5050

[livid flame]

I mean it’s not hard to beat RTX and RDNA that are god awful

Nvidia code names are equally as unimpressive and just plain forgettable

[turbid locust]

Extreme cope

[wraith steeple]

The only exciting tech so far right now is monitors and enterprise/server level workstation stuff

[turbid locust]

I think if Best Buy has them in store tomorrow I will buy a 9850X3D, otherwise 9950X3D. @topaz veldt

[hexed karma]

everyone was saying ces this year was boring but ngl i was eating up all the monitor demos they were showcasing

[turbid locust]

The keynotes were actually insanely boring

[wraith steeple]

I wanted one of those robots during Nvidia's keynote

They were the star of their keynote in my eyes

[turbid locust]

Or do we wait for 9950X3D2 that’s supposedly still real @topaz veldt

[cosmic gazelle]

Does anybody know if the Xeon 6980P is comparable to the Epyc 9755

can’t find many benchmarks

looks like the xeon is kind of a turd except for a few things

[topaz veldt]

I dunno I don't think the 9950X3D would do anything better

[turbid locust]

hmmmm decisions decisions

I kinda want a 9950X3D but I don’t want to deal with gamebar bullshit

[low sorrel]

bruh that 3080 i was trying to buy eariler got sold to someone and a day later i shit you not it's back on marketplace

[hexed karma]

not xbox gamebar i hope

[turbid locust]

ya

[pure garnet]

apex dude didn’t take the offer

6400 it is

[wraith steeple]

[turbid locust]

rip

[pure garnet]

dude sent back an offer for $9 off

[wise bear]

lmao

[wraith steeple]

[turbid locust]

I think I’m just gonna buy a 9850X3D tbh. I don’t need the 9950X3D. Maybe down the line.

[pure garnet]

i’ll just keep my pc as is and use it

[turbid locust]

If I want cores I have two Intel CPUs

[pure garnet]

or maybe i’ll buy a 270k plus and toy with my ocf some more

[gaunt plinth]

Intel's laptop chips look promising

[topaz veldt]

have nto had to think about it

[gentle gale]

its a step in the right direction for them

[topaz veldt]

IMHO he should have countered $900

[turbid locust]

I do want a big AM5 chip eventually but I don’t think I’d want a X3D variant

like 9950X’s are almost the same price as a 9850X3D lol

[topaz veldt]

9950X is fun

[pure garnet]

nobody in their right mind is paying $900 for a used and repaired apex

[topaz veldt]

Its worth more, prob $1200

[pure garnet]

true

[turbid locust]

LTT review immediately says it runs the same temp and power but that’s the opposite of what everything I’ve seen so far lol

Everything I’ve seen says 10C hotter and 20% more power

[pure garnet]

from what ive gathered ltt got a good sample

gn got an awful sample

and there’s a lot of variance

[topaz veldt]

I dunno if sample matters here

[cosmic gazelle]

i tend to trust their labs data a little more than other sources because they’ve poured so many millions of dollars into it

but they just don’t publish very much labs data lol

[turbid locust]

If I get one and it’s ass I’m going to mald

[cosmic gazelle]

mac is there any particular reason you wouldn’t just get a 9800 for a discount lol

[pure garnet]

the mac cycle

[cosmic gazelle]

or do you already have one

[pure garnet]

give me your paypal login so i can place the order

bc your luck is fucked

[turbid locust]

not cool enough

[turbid locust]

honestly real

[cosmic gazelle]

yknow what is cool

[pure garnet]

lemme parsec in and order fr

[turbid locust]

I can’t wait to get one and it’s worse than a PBO 9800X3D

[pure garnet]

i am 2/2 on 6400 1:1 2133 9800x3d samples

[cosmic gazelle]

this 11 inch mb air

[pure garnet]

no

[cosmic gazelle]

straight up one of my favorite devices ngl

[pure garnet]

1366x768 is not cool

[cosmic gazelle]

it’s 11 inches brah

[pure garnet]

it's still ass brah

[cosmic gazelle]

it’s fun

and astounding what it can accomplish with 4gb of ram

i truly don’t understand how it works

[pure garnet]

there is no way i would even touch a dual core broadwell in 2026

i got my m1 air for like $350 off ebay

[cosmic gazelle]

it runs bl2 30fps lmao

[cosmic gazelle]

dude you would not believe the battery life on a device this old

1080p youtube playback >5 hours

[turbid locust]

that.. isn’t good?

[cosmic gazelle]

dude it’s a 10 year old tiny ass laptop that has been through hundreds of charge cycles

of course that’s good

[topaz veldt]

@turbid locust I am thinking if I am going to go with like 5-20% more power usage.... 9950X3D

[turbid locust]

I think I’m gonna save $175 on cores I don’t need

[topaz veldt]

gargh

[turbid locust]

and buy a 9950X later

[cosmic gazelle]

hwunboxed says 27% higher power draw at eps12v

[topaz veldt]

like....

[cosmic gazelle]

actually i don't know what kind of pbo stuff they're talking about because i feel like the average 9800x3d pulls like 130w in cinebench and theres was only pulling 115

[topaz veldt]

people were talking about higher idle power also which makes no sense

[pure garnet]

i mean if it's boosting to 5.6 on the desktop wouldn't it use more power

[topaz veldt]

idle is idle, it should not be boosting

[hoary hatch]

Incredible

I got scammed by buying it new 5 years ago and using it the whole time 😡

[fringe vigil]

Chips

[topaz veldt]

corn

[pure garnet]

you probably have a better spec

i have a decommissioned education model

so it’s an 8/7c gpu with 8gb of ram and a 128gb ssd

[hoary hatch]

Oh yeah base spec

I didn't even know the education spec existed until a year ago

Was it launched at the same time or a bit later

Note I did get the education pricing on the 8/256 model

[pure garnet]

it was only sold direct to schools so idk

[hoary hatch]

But soc is the same binning

[pure garnet]

yeah it’s just the storage that got halved

128gb is terrible but it makes for a pretty fast chromebook

[hoary hatch]

So me it seems so silly to do that but whatever apple

Uhhh

Is it a single 128gb chip?

Vs likely dual 128gb chips on the standard model

That's the only way it seems like it would save money to me

If it was a single chip on both, I find it hard to believe, at apples volumes, it saved significant cost to do capacity reduction

[cosmic gazelle]

silly guy they charge $100 per 128gb, it isn't cost savings it's profit increasing

(i am making shit up idk)

[pure garnet]

i've never taken it apart to know but probably

[hoary hatch]

Naw the info is certainly online somewhere

[floral spear]

installing mid

[pure garnet]

linus hyping up nova lake in the 9850x3d video

[green marsh]

there was no 9800X3D back then for me

[pure garnet]

we are so back gelsinger gang

[hoary hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/intel-pat-gelsinger-papa-computer-chip-gif-4422124117738847315

[manic sigil]

Nova lake should be only new release for 2026,if we lucky

[hoary hatch]

Define new release

[pure garnet]

no we get arrow lake-r too for some reason

[hoary hatch]

If you mean new desktop architectures, are we not expecting zen6 in the second half of this year?

Is zen6 a 2027 architecture?

[manic sigil]

Computex will answer that question

[hoary hatch]

Computex seems too soon

[manic sigil]

More like too late

[hoary hatch]

Zen 3 fall 2020, Zen 4 fall 2022, Zen 5 fall 2024

I would have expected fall of this year for Zen 6

[manic sigil]

AMD don't need to rush at all,their main source of revenue is data centers

[topaz veldt]

LOL this ad is not a parody?

[turbid locust]

Ok can we fuck off with AI

Just tried to call Best Buy and it’s literally chat gpt

Like it’s literally an AI chatbot

you cannot talk to an employee it won’t let you

“Connect me to an employee or I will unalive myself”

“What product do you need help with?”

[pure garnet]

you still trying to source a 9850x3d

[turbid locust]

I just want to know if they’ll have some in store tmr

they don’t even have a product listing up yet like

I don’t wanna wait on shipping

and I don’t wanna drive 4 hours before work tmr when it’s still shitty outside

[pure garnet]

thank you jorj

[oak vector]

why’s this the first thing I see after waking up

[civic reef]

I am gonna be honest

The chat here is best when you lot are around

Guaranteed entertaining / informative (or both) chat logs to scroll & lurk through

Thank you tiny creatures on my screen

[wraith steeple]

[civic reef]

It's primarily thanks to Kyoko, cobra, and 5nail5, but you're included too

Guiltyspark is an honorable mention

[oak vector]

Every now and then you get the odd jorj shit post
The odd snails server rack
Floppa doing something to do with ram
It’s nice lmao

[civic reef]

OH GOD I forgot about Floppa

[oak vector]

tbf im still learning so A LOT just flies well above my head
But I concur

[civic reef]

I.. Don't get your meaning?

[oak vector]

Was just saying the people here, the things they discuss, a lot of the time I simply don’t understand, but I agree with what you’re saying

[civic reef]

Oh, fair enough

Yeah, they discuss a bunch of stuff that's honestly plain informative and sometimes crucial to learn

It's no issue really that you aren't getting them. Knowledge is power, yes, but sometimes your current learning RAM is overloaded lol

God knows my RAM is maxxed out, 4GB of 1600 only in me cranium

[brave panther]

brain be like:
100 exaflops
petabytes of storage
1kb of ram

[turbid locust]

piss nuke tutorial

[shell void]

late 2026 afaik

i don’t know if the X3D variants will be available at launch, they typically aren’t, but if intel puts out NVL BLLC immediately then they’ll need to respond

[turbid locust]

I want a gigabyte of L3

[pure garnet]

mac are you day 1ing the 9950x3d2

[turbid locust]

That shits gonna be $900

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/abe-simpson-gif-16438652983406076344

[fringe vigil]

me me me me me me me me me me me

[cosmic gazelle]

mac why haven’t you bought a 9995wx yet

it has the biggest number

your next cpu fr

[turbid locust]

bang

[fringe vigil]

Chips what’s your specs

[turbid locust]

@merry stirrup @pure garnet Gene probably arrives tomorrow?

[cosmic gazelle]

9800x3d 2x16 6200 mt/s 3080 ftw3

[pure garnet]

nice

i hope it's good

[fringe vigil]

Same specs but mines 4090

Prob faster ram too

[edgy laurel]

It’s great though

[merry stirrup]

oooh awesome my 2060 just came in

[turbid locust]

when did you get a 2060 lmao

[merry stirrup]

idk like last week

not really for me

the 2060 is however how i have my quadro back

[steel stream]

for sure, but I no longer have $1000 case money lol

[merry stirrup]

capture card method just a straight W

i use a 2nd mouse+ swap my keeb between wired and wireless modes

[steel stream]

great background photo

[merry stirrup]

thank you

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-michael-fassbender-michael-fassbender-magneto-gif-7238782

[oak vector]

damn didn't realise you were baller like that

[oak vector]

https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-jake-its-so-beautiful-beautiful-amazed-gif-4980958

[turbid locust]

I just simply have a second keyboard

big d||es||k privilege

[oak vector]

my keyboard switches are going out
or my pcb is cooked

the bitch loves gaslighting me into thinking i didn't type a letter

[merry stirrup]

i dont want a second keyboard even if i could fit one

i dont want a second mouse either but i dont want to do the whole kvm setup rn tbh

[oak vector]

lowkey i want another desk but that's another topic my bedroom ain't ready for yet

[merry stirrup]

yeah same

[cosmic gazelle]

i had that start happening with my w key and i just removed my keys and blew it off with an air compressor and it fixed it

[turbid locust]

Bench setup and gaming setup about to be in seperate rooms for me personally so

[steel stream]

getting an office just for benching or something?

[turbid locust]

basically

[merry stirrup]

realest but i cant do that so freak you

[turbid locust]

moving all my tinkering shit into the spare bedroom

[steel stream]

gonna become a lair

[turbid locust]

Fr fr

[merry stirrup]

gonna be a benchmeet at his house and hes gonna have us sectioned off

[turbid locust]

naw

[merry stirrup]

"you 6 head into the basement"

[pure garnet]

i use a usb switch to switch between pcs

but my second system is literally in pieces rn

[merry stirrup]

mines just ugly

[turbid locust]

This might be the method but again it won’t matter soon so

idk if I’m gonna put another AP in the new room or not though

[hollow temple]

My setup goals are always to look as Simple as possible

I hate clutter

[turbid locust]

I have enough components on my desk to build another pc entirely at any given moment

[steel stream]

get a bigger desk and it won't look cluttered

[pure garnet]

i just need more ram

[turbid locust]

we all do

[pure garnet]

if i could get a set of h16a trident z to slap in the daily i'd probably do that

then play with my m die on ocf

but the h16a i have is ugly as hell

yeah alright man

[turbid locust]

kek

[minor herald]

FAKE

[turbid locust]

https://x.com/skatterbencher/status/2016514745524989953?s=46 @pure garnet @merry stirrup

SkatterBencher (@skatterbencher)

Too easy to hit 6G with 9850X3D

X · Jan 28, 2026, 2:12 PM

6Ghz valid is kinda funny

[pure garnet]

i think dom did too

nvm massman https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/cpu_frequency/submissions/5966841

[cosmic gazelle]

no shit

[shell void]

welcome to 2022 ryzen users

[slim pebble]

Or wait for the 9950X3D2…

[slim pebble]

We are from… France!

[merry stirrup]

man now wait until people can bench 6.3 ambient

[turbid locust]

I feel like it’s gonna be $900 lol

[turbid locust]

yurrr

[pure garnet]

@shell void how did you see core vids on your cpu

[merry stirrup]

oh wait

[merry stirrup]

you can do that on intel

[turbid locust]

yeah but who cares about Intel

[merry stirrup]

idk everyone

[pure garnet]

i care about my 265k after the apex guy shattered my dreams

[turbid locust]

kek

[pure garnet]

it will hit 9000 fr fr daily stable

just need magic voltage number

[turbid locust]

I need to find out my core limits I think my cores are good

my chips SP is solid

[slim pebble]

800 at least 😂

[pure garnet]

if asrock sp works i think my cores are better than floppa's supposedly but

my imc is not so my cpu is overall worse

timings enough to make a floppa cry

[turbid locust]

floppa what voltage did you need for 5.6Ghz P cores

[shell void]

when i checked back in 2024 they were all 1.195v +-15mv for 5225MHz in the BIOS

i havent checked since then to see if it changed

[pure garnet]

oh i’ll go dig through the bios then

[shell void]

that was on the explosive b650e-e

[pure garnet]

i’ll dig anyway already rebooting

[shell void]

wordington

[turbid locust]

it would be cool if my 9850X3D was finally good but

we know that’s not gonna happen lmao

[pure garnet]

nothing useful

it has 8 cores though!!!

[topaz veldt]

what is it

[turbid locust]

I don’t remember hold on

[topaz veldt]

its ok just thought you might know

[frank zealot]

.... wat
@steel stream @edgy laurel @merry stirrup
https://a.co/d/4RZcaln

And as a follow-up wat....
https://a.co/d/aLltRoG

[turbid locust]

It was decent iirc I’ll have to check when I get home

[shell void]

there’s a menu called cpu specifications at the very bottom of the overclocking section

my core vid is 1.19 on the latest bios for my tomahawktuah

[pure garnet]

mine was 1.25v but no spread

[shell void]

yeah i don’t see per core values on this board which is lame

i mog you by 60mv it’s genuinely over

[frank zealot]

.... I actually dig the hyper Tron look of these fans
https://a.co/d/1oQlGk0

https://a.co/d/0ccggYL
This look actually fucks

But the fans are probably trash tier, of course

[pure garnet]

fr (i daily pbo off)

[pure garnet]

it’s kinda interesting mine is a round off voltage though

[shell void]

do you mean how it's 1.25 and not 1.255 or 1.245 etc?

the tomahawktuah only says 1.19 for me, the strix gave me 1.195 and also listed them per-core

[pure garnet]

yeah it’s 1.250v but also just being like that range in general and not

1.27 or something, 1.25v looks manual

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/uhm-meeting2-hmm-meeting-hmm-pepe-pepe-meeting-gif-18064240235739253690

[snow blade]

anyone here that tinkers with electronics and uses DisplayPort?

[pure garnet]

wait michael that is not a good indicator

i did pbo +200 -15

now it says 1.18

[low sorrel]

@pure garnet i might be getting a 4070 for like 320 US in a like a week

[shell void]

[low sorrel]

I asked a gpu on marketplace and he said once his 5060 low profile arrives he'll let me know

[pure garnet]

who tf is going 4070 to 5060

[low sorrel]

for lossless scaling idfk

stupid reasoning

just buy a 5080 atp

[pure garnet]

i don't think my pbo settings saved

none of my cores have gone above 5.2 lmfao

[steel stream]

ah hell nah they made the monolith

[steel stream]

huge news for the program

[steel stream]

what's the question

[low sorrel]

also can you explain to me why this guy bought a 5070ti and a 5060

[steel stream]

5060 for htpc maybe

[low sorrel]

no same pc

[steel stream]

oh idk

[snow blade]

I need someone to get me the resistance or continuity reading on pin 16 vs the metal shield of a DisplayPort cable connected to a monitor that's unplugged from the wall and from a PC

[steel stream]

woof

[frank zealot]

It's so weird

[frank zealot]

What?

[low sorrel]

akn some guy is offering me the ventus 3x instead of the one that @pure garnet had for 50 bucks more do i take it

[steel stream]

just take the cheapest 4070 you can get

it's a 200w card

it doesn't need a crazy cool;er

[low sorrel]

see you say that

but then i look at my 3060

[frank zealot]

3060s can be 2 slot single fan

[low sorrel]

and my ventus is somehow loud

[frank cypress]

msi

🥀

[pure garnet]

i have made a 9850x3d

[turbid locust]

So i physically pulled up to the Best Buy to ask

I got a “we might” wink

[frank cypress]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3maUvnJHf0

[turbid locust]

If I’m being gaslit ima be pissed but I’ll be here when they open tmr lmao

[pure garnet]

dudes gonna hand you a 7950x tomorrow lmfao

[frank cypress]

amazing

[low sorrel]

did you get your 4070 yet

[turbid locust]

stg lmao

[frank cypress]

no

I need to go to cbsa

[low sorrel]

taxes?

[frank cypress]

ups is trying to bend me over and fuck me

[pure garnet]

oh yeah ennui i found out if we did the not cheapest option

[frank cypress]

brokerage

[pure garnet]

that fee wouldn't have been there

[low sorrel]

see you gotta do the point roberts strat

[frank cypress]

oh

[pure garnet]

i really should've asked my friend before we shipped it

[frank cypress]

its fine, I can go to cbsa and self declare

probably

[pure garnet]

you should be able to get the docs from ups rn though

[frank cypress]

if not its a learning lesson for me

[frank cypress]

yeah ill call tomorrow

[pure garnet]

saw this bill and my jaw dropped

[frank cypress]

honestly I was like, that's about right first

then I realized the government only wants 50....

[pure garnet]

then you see 90 cad is fee

[frank cypress]

yeah, cause brokerage

should be fine though, just need to take a day to stop by an office and fill a few forms

[low sorrel]

kyoko i told you to commit tax fraud

[frank cypress]

even if they did it wouldnt matter

it's only 50 in taxes

its 90 in brokerage fees

[pure garnet]

yeah the problem is we used ups standard

and not saver/expedited for the included brokerage

[frank cypress]

its all g

[hollow temple]

Next PC be smaller

[turbid locust]

Currently behind a cybertruck with a slab of ice on top of it. Hope it doesn’t come through my windshield

[frank cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/look-up-scared-willem-dafoe-gif-17761333

[valid geyser]

for streaming and gaming at the same time whats better, rtx 5070 or rx9070

[turbid locust]

5070 technically but both will be fine

[hollow temple]

@steel stream and once I move to DAC off desk

[valid geyser]

bruh im geting so many diff answers

[frank cypress]

wait, are you being driven rn mac?

[frank cypress]

clean af

[turbid locust]

No I’m “driving” (been at a light for 5 mins)

[valid geyser]

how come the yt videos are saying for fps rx 9070 is better, my question is where does the rtx 5070 overshine the rx 9070

[frank cypress]

💀

[frank cypress]

feature set

[turbid locust]

I’m in left turn lane hell

[frank cypress]

software compatability

[valid geyser]

tf does that mean

[frank cypress]

?

[pure garnet]

oh idiot central

[hollow temple]

Meh could be better

Need to move elsewhere in my media room my stereo setup is behind me and I want to give jt more space

So I’ll put it where my records are
Advantage of no wall mounted screens anymore

[turbid locust]

9070 is marginally faster in terms of straight performance yes

but answering your question both will game and stream at the same time no issue

[valid geyser]

okay thank you dude fr

ig rx9070 it is, gna return my 5070 then

[shell void]

wat

why would you return your gpu to sidegrade to one with worse encoders and upscaling

[turbid locust]

“Worse” encoders

functionally the same with how streaming platforms bitrate limit

[frank cypress]

not worth returning one for another imo

if u have either just live with it....

personally I'd rather have a 5070

[turbid locust]

It’s one of those where it takes forever to get the arrow and then it only lasts long enough to let like 3 cars through. In the busiest area in the city.

[turbid locust]

same but purely because I game at 4K

Any other situation the 9070 is fine

[hollow temple]

Nvidia Drivers in Windows are better

On Linux depends on WM

[turbid locust]

debatable lmao

[frank cypress]

I mean it's fine, but I wouldnt return a 5070 for a 9070 but thats just me

[shell void]

same id even take a 5070 over a 9070XT

[frank cypress]

same with vice versa

[hollow temple]

I have a 9070xt
Should have waited and got a white 5080

[frank cypress]

well, since the software i use is ass with radeon I would never take a 9070 but u get the point

[turbid locust]

5070Ti was the answer when it and the 9070XT were the same price

[frank cypress]

100%

[shell void]

radeon is so far behind in literally everything except for vram quantity and linux drivers so it's hard for me to recommend any of their cards

[frank cypress]

that and raster perf / $$$

but idk, get with the times and use rt

🥀

[turbid locust]

Not even really anymore

[shell void]

even without rt that's a moot point because dlss4.5 nukes fsr

[frank cypress]

fair

[turbid locust]

Like the 5070Ti was straight up raster competitive

[shell void]

9070XT was compelling for a single week if you were able to get a subsidized model for $600 at Microcenter while the 5070Ti was $900+

[hollow temple]

I got my card on release
And it was cheaper than 5070ti

I have played like 8 games on it and maybe 200 hours

Still think I should have waited for a white 5070ti

[steel stream]

that's dope asf

[merry stirrup]

man thats abysmal

[edgy laurel]

kinda thing I don't even glance at

[low sorrel]

so what did we learn

[edgy laurel]

just looks like cheap garbage

[wraith steeple]

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[low sorrel]

I wouldn't use that if i got it for free

[edgy laurel]

finally can sit and watch the optimum video from today. beautiful build

[merry stirrup]

oh my god thank you for reminding me

[wraith steeple]

The dual 5090 WC build?

[low sorrel]

it has the mcprue case in it

[merry stirrup]

my am4 rig doing yc under my desk is perhaps not an amazing choice of mine

[wraith steeple]

[edgy laurel]

yeah

[merry stirrup]

its very warm under my desk

[low sorrel]

the mac pro one that you wanted but it was stupidly too expensive remember?

[edgy laurel]

yeah I saw the video this morning but could only scrub through it on mute

[merry stirrup]

add 20a to the cpu power

ill say 90w

it failed 4200 yc in 6 hours last night so i reset back to docp and "normal" cpu settings to see if it was my defective cpu or if it was actually my ram

[turbid locust]

I love when discord arbitrarily decides we aren’t doing 120hz on my phone anymore

[merry stirrup]

lmao

[merry stirrup]

(this cpu doesnt work at stock settings/doesnt like changing freq at idle)

[steel stream]

pro tip just get rid of discord mobile

[merry stirrup]

true

[turbid locust]

naw

[merry stirrup]

i use it for only photos

[turbid locust]

Mobile is like 80% of my usage

[steel stream]

shit's a battery drainer

i only have discord on my desktop now

[turbid locust]

if I’m typing here it’s probably mobile

[edgy laurel]

guguuuu

[merry stirrup]

noob question, why are the fins inside the rad so gross looking

id imagine theyre not painted, so does that mean its rust?

[edgy laurel]

copper

on the insides

[merry stirrup]

ah ok makes more sense

probably shoulda just thought harder

[steel stream]

rust adds surface area and better cooling potential

[edgy laurel]

and you can see it when looking at certainangles

[wraith steeple]

Given the case he's working with, I get it

[merry stirrup]

yeah i had to zoom in a good bit

[wraith steeple]

[shell void]

MONSTA

[frank cypress]

ups will fuck you over with brokerage

[wraith steeple]

Alphacool Monsta 360 (80mm thick)

[frank zealot]

700 dollar garbage case

[edgy laurel]

he's strapping P12Pro's to it

[frank zealot]

Horrific

[merry stirrup]

kyoko and i decided usps for my psu cause it was gonna take less time and in fact its going to take more time

[edgy laurel]

given everything y'all say, i dunno if thats best

[merry stirrup]

cause they took 3 days to scan it

[merry stirrup]

okay lets think about it this way instead

[pure garnet]

nah they scanned it after it moved

[merry stirrup]

theres like 3000w of cooling potential in that rad

[steel stream]

at least you guys are both in the US

[wraith steeple]

I do find the case choice questionable due to the limited rad compatibility

[pure garnet]

my post office just didn’t feel like updating us at all

[wraith steeple]

[merry stirrup]

does it matter if he doesnt have the best static pressure fans

[merry stirrup]

oh i see

[wraith steeple]

Especially given the specs

[edgy laurel]

noise though, is what I hear people talk about

[pure garnet]

yeah i’m 2/2 on shipping disasters this time again

[frank cypress]

lmao, its my fault for not looking into it more

[pure garnet]

ennui got 90 cad in brokerage fees to dodge and floppa’s unit went into the abyss

[merry stirrup]

was supposed to be here the 31st yeah

whateva its fine i took down floppa serve to play with it in the mean time

[frank cypress]

I usually get shipped via UPU couriers which doesnt have such fees afaik

I.e CPC, USPS, JP etc

so i didnt know that was a thing even

[pure garnet]

the last time i shipped something to canada my friend made the label and sent me it

[merry stirrup]

may have to reversse this soon because people like need it but whatever

[pure garnet]

then i just shipped it so i didn’t know

[merry stirrup]

ah

[frank cypress]

yeah we didnt know

it is what it is

[merry stirrup]

apparently my media server is like useful

idk i dont watch many shows its basically just for my family and friends

[frank cypress]

yknow even with the fuck you fee from ups its still cheaper than 4070s are locally?

so like, it is what it is

[pure garnet]

my custom foam better hold

[merry stirrup]

just 50/50 it

[edgy laurel]

its TIGHT in there.

[merry stirrup]

gosh

OK NO SPOILS I GOTTA WATCH

[edgy laurel]

sry sry sry

[merry stirrup]

i got it on RIGHT NOW

[low sorrel]

Hey I got the better deal here if mine goes through

[frank cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/tight-tight-gif-6396435647108975705

[merry stirrup]

man he literally has the highest production value ive seen on youtube

[steel stream]

stupid freakin $1000 case

[frank cypress]

nah im gonna just have to take a day to go to a cbsa office to fill a few forms

[edgy laurel]

its good, though best might be pushing it.

[low sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-baby-yoda-destroyed-lego-baby-yoda-grogu-baby-gif-17609572201570117169

[edgy laurel]

could be a $1000 monitor stand

[merry stirrup]

250$ wheels

[steel stream]

true

[low sorrel]

Honestly, I understand why the case costs that much

[edgy laurel]

wait is that an apple thing too

[merry stirrup]

YEAH

[low sorrel]

It makes sense

[merry stirrup]

mac pro wheels are 250$ per

[edgy laurel]

whaaaat

[merry stirrup]

1k to make ur 5000$ mac roll

[low sorrel]

Per set of 4

Or per wheel

[steel stream]

yeah but I want one so it shouldn't be 1000

[merry stirrup]

2nd one

[low sorrel]

What the fuck

[frank cypress]

wait, the mac pro?

[steel stream]

please come back in stock

[frank cypress]

cheese grater?

[merry stirrup]

pulling it up rn to make sure im not crazy

[hollow temple]

Always changing

[merry stirrup]

my bad 700$ us for the set

[frank cypress]

I mean it makes sense, iirc that shit is made cnc'd from a giant block of aluminum

[edgy laurel]

So the actual apple made case, i've not even seen it in person but I can tell from videos that show the detail its NOT a cheap part to produce.

[merry stirrup]

definitely not

[hollow temple]

I am waiting for a deal on M2 Mac Pro

[low sorrel]

Mcprue mac pro case clone

https://www.mcprue.com/store/mcprue-apollo-x

Optimum tech used it in his lastest bulid

[edgy laurel]

and akn is mad its so pricey

[steel stream]

https://www.parthaven.com/products/empty-case-outer-shell-frame-feet-apple-mac-pro-7-1-a1991-2019 this company sells them but I haven't seen it come back in stock

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-yells-at-cloud-yelling-old-man-news-the-simpsons-gif-5498361754025948763

[hollow temple]

Kinda want one

Same kinda Quality Vibe as HL15

[merry stirrup]

i like my y40 a lot

[steel stream]

PA602 is dope, but a solid thing of aluminum will never not be sexy

[merry stirrup]

true

[edgy laurel]

The Apollo X might even be worth it to not have to do any modding

[frank cypress]

I want to swap to a lianli a3

[low sorrel]

I saw on Reddit that the quality of the mcprue is nearly Identical but they haven't gotten the same texture as apple

[edgy laurel]

or more so fabricating

[frank cypress]

matx >>> atx

[edgy laurel]

Thats pretty good though

[steel stream]

yeah but where's the fun in that

[hollow temple]

Nothing wrong with a statement piece case

Better than the Fish Tanks

[steel stream]

or the giant apple logo

[merry stirrup]

also wow

the first case he had is made by phanteks?

[low sorrel]

I kinda want the sff ones

[edgy laurel]

well yeah if you have the space, tools and know-how by all means

[merry stirrup]

thats pretty insane, even that looked pretty good

[devout ridge]

SFF cases better

[steel stream]

i don't have any of them but damn it would I find a way

[hollow temple]

All those nice cases to run Microslop software

[frank cypress]

if only sff wasnt so cost prohibitive

[edgy laurel]

yeah https://phanteks.com/product/evolv-x2-white/#Product_Select

[devout ridge]

it's not all that expensive

[low sorrel]

I love how I've infected this chat over the last 12 months with the mcprue cases

[frank cypress]

the fuck it aint

[merry stirrup]

looks really good i wont lie

[hollow temple]

#hyprland

[merry stirrup]

nah sff limited me pretty hard and i wasnt even full sff

[low sorrel]

Pretty nice for a fishtank

[frank cypress]

itx boards are expensive, sff psus are expensive

[merry stirrup]

i was in the realm where if i wanted to upgrade my psu id have to pay 400$ for a better unit

[devout ridge]

the biggest cost is the case itself, everything else is marginally more expensive

[frank cypress]

flex psus even more so

[devout ridge]

my "expensive ITX mobo" was 200usd

[merry stirrup]

my edge was 250$ and thats when it was last gen

[frank cypress]

noooooo the boards are pricey too

[merry stirrup]

compared to literally half that for a normal sized board

[low sorrel]

MFF is king

[hollow temple]

I’m holding out that by the time I need a new system
It will just be all built into motherboard

[frank cypress]

I like sff but matx >>>

[devout ridge]

find me an AM5 mobo with decent VRMs cooling and PCIe support for 100usd and i'll concede

[hollow temple]

Don’t need much for day to day use

[frank cypress]

it just makes way more sense for the average person

[low sorrel]

Define decent PCIe support

[merry stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8LFCmG/asrock-b650m-hdvm2-white-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-hdvm2-white

Even oc's good

[turbid locust]

M4 Mini was like $400 at some point

[merry stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9HTZxr/gigabyte-b650m-gaming-plus-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-gaming-plus-wf

or if asrock doesnt count

[devout ridge]

i'll be damned, i concede

[low sorrel]

What's the difference between the hdv2 and the pro rs

[merry stirrup]

ebay makes it cheating if you want something that looks nice too

[hollow temple]

I’m Canadian
And yeah I’m waiting for M5 mini I have a MacBook Pro now

[merry stirrup]

the hdv is a 1dpc board, i think its a little cheaper, but ultimately the same board

hdv is better imo

[hollow temple]

But really when my 9800x3d isn’t good enough to use Chrome

I’ll go arm

[devout ridge]

ebay pricing i don't count, given i paid for my Mobo new, and most people are best off buying new for AM5

[low sorrel]

But 99.99

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs

[devout ridge]

you'll go ARM and get worse performance?

[merry stirrup]

pay 10$ bro

[hollow temple]

We will get there

[low sorrel]

He said 100 dollars

[devout ridge]

Keep dreaming bud

[merry stirrup]

it was clearly within margin

[edgy laurel]

optimum, optimum, thats not 600W my boy

(i'll concede that its during a render which.. i don't know how rendering works)

[devout ridge]

it's been decades and ARM still sucks ass

[frank cypress]

@merry stirrup btw never getting another bus psu

bus psu is horrible

[merry stirrup]

too long?

[steel stream]

that motherfucker

[merry stirrup]

i have the normal MSI unit for a reasson lol

[frank cypress]

too long

[low sorrel]

To be fair arm kicks ass on mobile and laptops

[devout ridge]

(not counting Apple, they get some serious benefits from software optimization and their on board memory)

[hollow temple]

What I mean is a Any Os equivalent to Apple silicon

[merry stirrup]

the msi unit isnt even good, apparently it failed labs testing (on the 3.3v lol) but thats more than good enough for me

[devout ridge]

For efficiency

[steel stream]

PTL 🐐

[merry stirrup]

im planning on keeping all my big units now

anything over 1kw i dont think i want to resell

[edgy laurel]

to be fair in the same load the top card was hitting 87c at the same power level when air cooled so.. win

[devout ridge]

You can't have a system on par with Apple that doesn't use functionally the same setup of a gated community of software and soldered to the chip memory + GPU

[low sorrel]

Has windows fixed the hotpocket laptop bug?

[merry stirrup]

yeah i ended up buying the msi a1000G from ebay for like 80$ with cables cause i was fed up with my g2 not fitting anywhere

[edgy laurel]

you cannot exhaust one 5090FE into another 5090FE and have a good time

[steel stream]

yeah this is nuts

[hollow temple]

I really enjoy my Apple Silicon

But MacOs has a few issues that keep me from using it full time

[merry stirrup]

which is a normal ATX sized unit

[devout ridge]

The reason why Apple does so well is they reap all the benefits of having the CPU, GPU, and RAM functionally on the same DIE

[low sorrel]

I mean it's probably better then the top on having no airflow right?

[merry stirrup]

i wont need smaller so this is more than enough

[hollow temple]

The Ryzen Ai Max is pretty slick

[frank cypress]

seems like a bit of a 1st world problem innit

[devout ridge]

x86

[edgy laurel]

the best kind of problem

[hollow temple]

Fair
I guess I just want a fast All on board solution so it can be small

[merry stirrup]

had a homie remake my superlight base

[devout ridge]

so you want a Mac mini/studio

[low sorrel]

My butter is too buttery and my steak is too juicy

[frank cypress]

type shi

[hollow temple]

Essentially but on Hyprland

[shell void]

voltage limit moment

[hollow temple]

If I wanted to

[edgy laurel]

tsk tsk

[low sorrel]

I don't understand hyprland I'm ngl

[devout ridge]

then you don't get the benefits of a highly optimized OS and software

One of the reasons apple is so efficient is they have a walled garden of software

[hollow temple]

It’s a Wayland Compositor

[devout ridge]

as much as we all hate on them for being such pricks about open source, it's a net positive for them to be that way

[edgy laurel]

(that explains nothing)

[devout ridge]

"A Tiling window managaer splits your screen up like a grid and every window goes into a tile," is the best description i've seen of it

[edgy laurel]

Its a proven system over the past 20 years

[devout ridge]

Correct, and they have so many fewer hardware options to worry about

[hollow temple]

Mac SMB is just shit

[devout ridge]

they get to design one platform, and optimize their software for that

whereas anything like windows/linux doesn't get that luxury

[fringe vigil]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cars-pit-stop

[hollow temple]

But yes I do enjoy my MacBook Pro
It’s still really fast and all I need while travelling

[devout ridge]

I'm like the avatar of OS's, i use windows on my desktop, MacOS for my laptop, and Linux for all my servers

(i still don't have much linux experience though cause i just setup my servers once and largely ignore them)

also a lot of my "linux" experience is really truenas experience

[hollow temple]

Linux on Servers
Arch/ Windows( for testing nav software) on desktop and macOS on laptop

[devout ridge]

technically the linux kernel

Speaking of servers, my damn SAS HBA finally arrives tomorrow

[hollow temple]

I’m not a TruNas Lover
But mainly due to my usecsse

[devout ridge]

I can finally hook up my 24 HDDs in my JBOD

[devout ridge]

which is....?

[hollow temple]

Sell you my JBOD and HBA

[edgy laurel]

do you start hyperventilating when you haven't told someone you use linux in 15 minutes

[hollow temple]

Not really I’m actually hoping more people don’t switch

[shell void]

apple's huge advantages in certain workloads are moreso a product of hardware than software

[devout ridge]

a, i already have a JBOD
b, i need some stupid ass SAS 8088 HBA because NETAPP is an evil company that uses QSFP for SAS

[shell void]

when you have a huge monolithic chip with ASICs for certain tasks it's overpowered

[devout ridge]

That is exactly what I discussed in the first half of my apple rant

[shell void]

ASICs are just OP in general

[devout ridge]

true

i mean that's kind of the whole point of ASICs

Apple is entirely unrivaled for anything Audio/Video

Like it's not even a competition, they just win by so fucking much for performance and stability

[hollow temple]

Good ol netapp

[floral spear]

I miss HyperX Armada

[devout ridge]

words cannot describe my annoyance at using QSFP FOR SAS

[floral spear]

https://tenor.com/view/jesse-breaking-bad-jeese-jeese-pinkman-jeese-pinkman-breaking-bad-bb-gif-11452903500453049415

[devout ridge]

like wtf netapp, why must i buy such expensive ass DACs just because you decided to be an asshole and use a networking connector for SAS

[floral spear]

I miss affordable high refresh rate monitors

[hollow temple]

I just use SATA HDDs but I only maintain 80tb

[devout ridge]

be a normal fucking company and use a SAS connector for SAS

[floral spear]

Im tired of 180hz GRAHHHH

[devout ridge]

i essentially got 20 1.2tb SAS HDDs for free

[hollow temple]

All my drives are 20tb

[devout ridge]

the price i paid for the JBOD + drives is the same as or less than most listings for just the JBOD

[hollow temple]

What’s your definition of affordable

[low sorrel]

Wdym are you not expecting an AMD GPU and an Asrock cooler on top, with an Intel processor on an asus motherboard, with an Nvidia IGP with SK Hynix memory in a Corsair heat sink, with and Intel optane drive accelerating an WD hardware all in an phanteks PC case with thermal right fans installed, communicating with a 2.4 GHz keyboard and mouse both using different protocols and dongles and a blue tooth controller with some random chinese hotas plugged in as well?

[floral spear]

Like 2 hundredolla

[hollow temple]

That’s not a budget that’s a dream

[devout ridge]

Correct, i was not expecting that

[low sorrel]

Expecting what?

[devout ridge]

don't forget the chinese amalgamation of a mobile chip on a PCIe card with 2x the standard VRAM

[low sorrel]

Don't forget the wifi card from mediatek

[hollow temple]

I got mine for 150 like 2yrs ago

[floral spear]

I've been waiting for 5 years for that piece of shit called ViewSonic XG2431 to be under 220$ GRAHHH

[devout ridge]

with a ethernet card from MELANOX NVIDIA

[devout ridge]

mine was 100+75 shipping

usually goes for about 200-250 total price on ebay rn

[hollow temple]

The power isn’t worth it for me

[devout ridge]

so i got a deal on the JBOD, and functionally free drives

[hollow temple]

The cost isn’t worth the capacity

[devout ridge]

i don't pay for power

[hollow temple]

That’s a luxury

Depending on other possible downsides

[devout ridge]

Oh absolutely, and i take full advantage

[hollow temple]

I own my house
So utilities are on me

[edgy laurel]

in 5 years, monitor tech has exploded. there is going to be something far better than that mediocre 1080p panel.

[floral spear]

I mean if there's a good 240hz or more monitor for 200$ I'll buy it immediately but I haven't found it sadly

[edgy laurel]

lol, GG's RTINGS, ❤️

[hollow temple]

I bought a 240hz 1440p OlED 27” for 499 CAD

[shell void]

if youre american then you can find 1440p 320Hz IPS panels for less than $200usd regularly

[hollow temple]

So if all you want is 1080p they likely exist

[pure garnet]

i need a 14900k and z790 apex encore

[shell void]

real

[floral spear]

Amazon?

[low sorrel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FGdMnQ/ktc-h25x7-245-1920-x-1080-400-hz-monitor-h25x7

[low sorrel]

400hz for 220 usd

[hollow temple]

I need a Threadripper

[merry stirrup]

hurray

[shell void]

yeeeuuuuck

[edgy laurel]

where do you live?

[shell void]

https://www.amazon.com/INNOCN-Monitor-Computer-Adjustable-Mountable/dp/B0FPFTPPYN/

[floral spear]

Las Vegas

[pure garnet]

go 4k your eyes will thank you

[shell void]

27" 1440p 320Hz IPS for $170usd

[edgy laurel]

so US. ok. https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#X=0,22000&r=256001440&sort=-refresh&page=1&D=240000,600000

[steel stream]

go gamble and make the money for an OLED

[floral spear]

My eyes will not, I'm a blind old rat

[hollow temple]

I feel like this lad didn’t actually look

Just said a budget

[floral spear]

Too much Dark tide has rendered my right eye useless

[edgy laurel]

budget accounted for

[floral spear]

Thank you Mr.Spark

[steel stream]

any 600Hz options or nah

[wraith steeple]

I also saw he had a Heatkiller CPU block for the TR!

[shell void]

i just noticed this

[edgy laurel]

lol no

[merry stirrup]

(pcpp doesnt have a whole bunch of monitors listed)

[steel stream]

bummer

[floral spear]

Grossy

[wraith steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-meme-anime-react-anime-reaction-arakawa-gif-8258439823509290590

[edgy laurel]

[merry stirrup]

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-phantom-gaming-pg27qft1b-27-qhd-180-hz-ips-black/p/N82E16824946003R?Item=N82E16824946003R

looks like a decent open box deal btw

[edgy laurel]

summit smashing all matte displays

[merry stirrup]

123$ for 1440p 180hz

[shell void]

hear me out $47 more for a new 320Hz monitor instead

[floral spear]

I need those placebo hertz for my failing CS2 Career

[merry stirrup]

its not placebo but its not as noticable as 60 - 144

144 to my 360hz is night and day even just wiggling my mouse around

[floral spear]

Ah God I wish the 24G2GZ was available new

Now I'm stuck with the 24G4 because I was desperate

Still a decent monitor for 95 bucks tho

[hollow temple]

I was looking at a 60hz monitor earlier

Unless hard core gaming it is what it is

[pure garnet]

google "eye doctors near me"

[edgy laurel]

60Hz is painful in excel and outlook. dead to me at this point

[floral spear]

I was gonna go to an eye doctor but I got fired and union benefits we're not available

[merry stirrup]

im sure a lot of us look at 60hz screens pretty often but nobody wants to use them lol

[steel stream]

my laptop is only 60

[merry stirrup]

my phone is 60 and it kinda sucks

[hollow temple]

I use 60hz at work

Was looking at Swapling to Studio Displays

[floral spear]

My phone is 120 and I tweak out when it goes to 60

[hollow temple]

Or Proart

[low sorrel]

My phone is 120hz and I set it to 60

Don't at me bro

[pure garnet]

there was a 3 day window i used my 12pm out and my 15pm at home till the case showed up and going between the two in the morning was miserable

[steel stream]

you are quite the specimen aren't you

[low sorrel]

Save battery

[hollow temple]

He wants better battery

[steel stream]

120Hz is worth it

[hollow temple]

Unless gaming meh

[low sorrel]

Power saving mode won't let me keep it on and 120hz

[steel stream]

whenever low power mode comes off I turn it off instantly

[floral spear]

The buh

[hollow temple]

Nothing wrong with being passionate about screen refresh

Everyone cares about different things

[edgy laurel]

speaking of ProMotion on 16PM.. turning on battery saver OR Limit Frame Rate in accessibility is not the same as the 60Hz on my 12PM. I just tested this this week with someone

[steel stream]

if you don't have the same exact opinion as me what are you doing

[steel stream]

I swear it feels worse than 60Hz on LPM

[hollow temple]

I mean people here use Chinese Ewaste keyboards but if they like em it’s fine

[steel stream]

must be 30 or something

[floral spear]

How to acquire Xiaomi Phones in United States of America

[low sorrel]

Side note why can't I change it 90hz

[edgy laurel]

the two options I mentioned above on my 16PM turn my phone into a stuttery mess. Native 60Hz on a coworkers 12 Pro was SMOOTH (but visually you could tell the framerate was lower). What you get by using those features is horrible

Yes, @steel stream, it feels nothing like native 60hz

[steel stream]

interesting

[edgy laurel]

its so much worse

[steel stream]

very interesting

[low sorrel]

Never mind I figured it out

[steel stream]

I wonder if it has to do with the adaptive refresh rate

[edgy laurel]

Its sure something, i knew 60Hz couldn't possible be that bad.

[steel stream]

I wonder if when you lock it to "60" on newer models, it's still trying to do the adaptive stuff which makes it a mess (like vrr) but the older phones are just a flat 60

[edgy laurel]

I thought maybe battery saver was why it was bad due to lowering clocks

but then i found the limit framerate option and it felt exactly the same

Yeah, it probably does have something to do with the VRR

[merry stirrup]

VRR makes windows feel bad so

[steel stream]

gotta get someone more knowledgable to test it out

[low sorrel]

What

[merry stirrup]

i wouldnt doubt it

[low sorrel]

I have not noticed this

[merry stirrup]

VRR in windows feels gross menu wise

[steel stream]

he is talking about normal windows menus and stuff, not games

[merry stirrup]

^

[edgy laurel]

destop VRR. effectively mimics how phones work but on your windows desktop

[low sorrel]

Yeah I have that enables

[steel stream]

I turned it on for like 2 seconds and never touched it again

[merry stirrup]

it feels gross to me

[low sorrel]

I haven't noticed a thing

[steel stream]

must be some oled thing

[edgy laurel]

@low sorrel it may not be actually working

[low sorrel]

I wonder if it's because I have a gsync module?

[merry stirrup]

i have a gsync module

[pure garnet]

vrr fans explaining how their display halving the refresh rate bc software lagged is optimal

[steel stream]

on OLED it constantly changes brightness

[pure garnet]

i will burn the extra 3w of power for my display to not feel bad any day of the week

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/sadhotgirl-explaining-talking-gif-21850829

vrr feels nice to me in game use 🤷

[merry stirrup]

i need something behind my desk setup

[low sorrel]

Lol I turned on 120hz and my phone is warm

It's not hot

[pure garnet]

im unironically convinced everyone that talks about ue5 stuttering has vrr on and the display keeps dropping the refresh on them

[low sorrel]

Just warm

[merry stirrup]

it would usually be a computer setup but i dont have a shelve there yet

[pure garnet]

because i've never had half the issues people complain about

[merry stirrup]

might just do some foam

[low sorrel]

Also I've never seen yet stuttering

[merry stirrup]

its just because most people dont have good computers/have bad ram configurations

[steel stream]

trying to get more art for my room

[merry stirrup]

ue5 is all cpu/mem bound so if youre getting stutters its probably one of those or vram

[low sorrel]

@merry stirrup what is project lasso people keep talking about it in tarkov

[merry stirrup]

dawg idk

[steel stream]

for you it don't matter

[pure garnet]

like yeah if your display is constantly jumping between refresh rates it's going to feel like shit

[merry stirrup]

oh lol my bad

i do know i read that as something else

process lasso is useful for different core types with ht more than anything

essentially its exclusively good for 12th/13th/14th

[steel stream]

vrr is goated (just don't break the range)

[merry stirrup]

core ultra benefits from allowing the game to touch the ecores when it wants

[pure garnet]

i stopped using vrr in 2020 and never looked back

[steel stream]

was good for 7950x33d for a bit too

[merry stirrup]

yeah in tarkov its still smart

[pure garnet]

yeah that's the software 9950x3d owners rely on too if windows gamebar fails

[edgy laurel]

for the reasons you listed, not because VRR

[low sorrel]

Yeah some guy was telling me to use it on my 5800x in tarkov

[merry stirrup]

tarkov has no idea what it wants

[merry stirrup]

no point

[pure garnet]

vrr is going to be the thing changing the refresh rate

[steel stream]

the single CCD NEEDS process lasso bro it NEEDS it

[edgy laurel]

no, why is the framerate jumping so much to begin with

[low sorrel]

He said so it could disable hyper threading in tarkov

[pure garnet]

well i can't help that most people run the ryzen equiv of a 6700k

[merry stirrup]

you can do that in the game, but thats not alwyas beneficial

especially on zen, where HT is actually pretty useful

[pure garnet]

but i can help them stop having the monitor cause nausea

[merry stirrup]

"use physical cores" option does in fact work

try with it off and on then compare

[low sorrel]

Is it the only option that works in tarkov

[merry stirrup]

wdym

i mean all the other ones do too besides automatic ram cleaner

automatic ram cleaner works it just isnt automatic

[teal orbit]

automatic ram cleaner

[merry stirrup]

might be slower might be faster, it just kinda depends on overall system

you have 8 cores right? you might end up faster with it on but idk

[pure garnet]

i used to use process lasso for ffxiv on the 13700k

but then apo came out and it did the work for me so i stopped

[merry stirrup]

core ultra makes process lasso irrelevant

[pure garnet]

like when i open the game on my 265k the ecores just automatically slept anyway

[merry stirrup]

cause ecores are useful even in games

slay

[turbid locust]

homogeneous cores

[merry stirrup]

taking tarkov off my ecores(all cores) to my pcores actually drops my fps by 10

same with the opposite

[low sorrel]

Damn I spent like 8 minutes troubleshooting my monitor before realizing...

[merry stirrup]

better to just let it do it itself

[turbid locust]

you might be restarted

[merry stirrup]

i think so

[pure garnet]

i run apo on arrowlake otherwise i let it sort itself out

[low sorrel]

Me too

[shell void]

homoerotic core architecture

[pure garnet]

i wish the catgirl game didn't scare so much off the cache

[merry stirrup]

idk should i try it

[pure garnet]

but it does so im stuck with this 8 core slop till novalake

[low sorrel]

Floppa when teach me tarkov

[pure garnet]

it supports like 3 games so meh not really

[shell void]

apo just schedules the game for you

[merry stirrup]

okay sounds good

[shell void]

if youre already using lasso then it's whatevs

[merry stirrup]

dont use lasso anymore casue of afformentioned discoveries

[pure garnet]

the intel apo list is sad as hell

because they did it manually per game then stopped

[merry stirrup]

wait thats just all the games it supports

oh lol

[shell void]

supposedly there will be more games added when arl-r releases

[pure garnet]

yeah apo is intel manually tunes the scheduler per game

[merry stirrup]

interesting okay

[pure garnet]

it does do stuff in xiv

so i install it, but it doesn't do a whole lot vs 3d cache

[merry stirrup]

i think i can schedule it myself if i notice issues but i generally dont have a problem

[low sorrel]

I feel like you lost the plot if your a cpu company and you have to tune your CPUs per game

[merry stirrup]

max perf in games is just too hard for me to care about anymore

[pure garnet]

i mean amd relies on xbox game bar to schedule games on the 9950x3d so

[merry stirrup]

every game has x issue or is optimized badly in x way to where i dont want to diagnose and go thru every video game to get 8-15fps

what could this even mean

he shows the most basic landscape in the thumbnail where even is the rt

[low sorrel]

Inb4 baked in lighting like in CS

[pure garnet]

dude pre traced the rays

[low sorrel]

Wait is RTX HDR an competitive disadvantage in tarkov

[merry stirrup]

what could that even mean

is seeing better colors a disadvantage

[low sorrel]

Dark is more dark

[merry stirrup]

you see contrast better in the same darkness, no

[steel stream]

just looks like roblox

[pure garnet]

jerry even if it was your monitor isn’t good enough at hdr to do it

[digital spade]

love when i get my phone day 1 and its allready ded

and no its not the vid its the phone

[merry stirrup]

lol

[digital spade]

it dose that on all videos i watch

[pure garnet]

return it then i guess

[steel stream]

the hardest part of having a G5 is picking what movie you want to show friends

[digital spade]

wallmart wont take it back

[merry stirrup]

i think event horizon scene solos wont lie

[pure garnet]

if you just got it today why would they not take it back

[merry stirrup]

id imagine with a great bright display like yours it would be great

[digital spade]

no idea

[merry stirrup]

walmart doesnt like tech returns and generally doesnt let you return tech if you even open it

[digital spade]

they just refuse to take it back

[merry stirrup]

this is the rule at my local walmart so

[steel stream]

interesting

[digital spade]

same here

[turbid locust]

I found this out the hard way with my 14600K. Especially when you order from Walmart.com. I almost didn’t get my money back for that cpu despite it being unopened.

[pure garnet]

if it’s doa then you either return it or charge back

[steel stream]

tron legacy is sadly out of the equation as it does not incorporate height channels

[merry stirrup]

damn

[merry stirrup]

likely will be told to go through manu

[pure garnet]

the bank will not tell you to go through manu

[turbid locust]

The first Walmart outright refused because “we don’t sell those”

[turbid locust]

Second one almost didn’t refund me because I paid with PayPal. Eventually convinced the manager to give me cash.

[pure garnet]

i bought a 12600k in nj and returned it in sc and they looked at me funny but took it back

[merry stirrup]

saying for the return homie

[pure garnet]

yeah just chargeback

[merry stirrup]

optimial

[digital spade]

Just keeps getting worse

[pure garnet]

unironically

the only chargeback i’ve ever filed was for a vending machine that charged me $20 for a single soda

[merry stirrup]

i did it cause microsoft took my last 10$ for gamepass at the time and i wanted to be petty

[steel stream]

damn

[merry stirrup]

i in fact got my 10$ back 3 months later

worth it

[steel stream]

that's fucking funny af ngl

[pure garnet]

i tried to buy a switch 2 from walmart and they cancelled the order so i’ve never been back

[turbid locust]

bro when I submitted the return it straight up said “take to any Walmart”

[steel stream]

not that one though obviously bro

[pure garnet]

i slept like 3h, drove to gamestop and camped till they opened, got mine there

never been back to walmart again

[steel stream]

all that for a switch 2

[pure garnet]

i wanted one

[turbid locust]

To be fair it was one of those Walmarts that’s only a grocery store

[steel stream]

last time I bought something from walmart was the apple pie mac and cheese

[merry stirrup]

"neighbourhood market" i think

[steel stream]

ok yeah valid

[pure garnet]

oh a walmart market

[turbid locust]

yeah

[merry stirrup]

yeah

i kinda see that one lol

[turbid locust]

but it was literally listed as an option on the return