tech-chat-2

[shell void]

i flipflop between brands and dont really care, but it's quite obvious that youtubers have a history of glazing AMD

[turbid locust]

I glaze whatever’s not in my daily

[merry stirrup]

true

[shell void]

ironically jayztwocents is one of the only youtubers that flipflops between brands, and he gets roasted for doing so

[south shuttle]

i just hate all companies now

there are brands that i hate less

[merry stirrup]

i buy whatever sparks joy

[south shuttle]

same

[turbid locust]

because he’s just blatantly wrong most the time

[shell void]

not wrong

i cringe whenever he uploads videos about ram

[turbid locust]

same

[merry stirrup]

realest

"we're gonna focus on trcd today"

[turbid locust]

His last video he said 24gbit was harder on the IMC

[shell void]

but i respect that he switches platforms once or twice per year

im on my third windows reinstall in the last 7 months, and the issues in windows 24H2+ still exist

i have to use two registry tweaks and disable VRR for the window manager to stop fucking itself

[pure garnet]

oh thats prolly why i dont have issues

[south shuttle]

i don’t like j2c since the silent wings 4 shill showing exactly nothing

[pure garnet]

i don't use vrr because i hate my display slowing down

[south shuttle]

also he forgot to mention the whole video was a sponsor

[shell void]

incase anyone else is curious

[south shuttle]

lol not even in the description

[shell void]

this registry tweak fixes the chromium artifacting in windows 24h2+

it prevents chromium apps from flipping rendering model and artifacting with MPO enabled

[turbid locust]

consider not using chromeslop

[shell void]

(affects chrome, discord, and spotify mainly)

youll still experience stuttering though, you have to disable VRR to fix that

[south shuttle]

j2c made a whole sponsored video about sw4’s without mentioning anywhere it’s a sponsor

not a single good criticism in the video like the fans having resonance issues

he put a wind meter infront of it to prove? something

[shell void]

the only way to get current gen gaming performance, and chromium app hwaccel without artifacting or stuttering with VRR enabled is to use Windows 23H2 with the backported branch prediction windows update

[edgy laurel]

I want to know more. I have.. something that happens but i'm not sure if its what you're describing and I've always blamed it on the vsr/hdr functions I use

[shell void]

and that version of windows loses security update support later this year

[turbid locust]

He’s been talking about this for awhile now and I’ve experienced 0% of it

[shell void]

if you care about security updates then the only option is 21H2 LTSC which has fugly UI and slightly worse gaming performance

[edgy laurel]

I know, but i'm not sure if this occasional issue I do experience is that or not

[merry stirrup]

my discord used to do it then my aura fixed it idk

[south shuttle]

https://youtu.be/aBOf4XfUl7M

[low sorrel]

i don't understand tarkov

[turbid locust]

I think it’s a Michael skill issue

[merry stirrup]

quests

[low sorrel]

i've played for 2 hours and i've done one raid

[merry stirrup]

do quests

[shell void]

if youre seeing stuttering, flashing, or blocking/artifacting then it's probably related to the chromium hwaccel MPO issues that have existed since the launch of 24H2 and still arent fixed in 26H1

[low sorrel]

i am

[edgy laurel]

occasionally when playing a video, Chrome will quickly blank out and seem to reload the page then the video will play. media/videos on other tabs will be black until I F5 when this happens

[shell void]

mainly affecting chromium apps

[cosmic gazelle]

@shell void i had class but they are in fact completely unrelated gpus lol

[merry stirrup]

my drivers reset every time i turn my computer on

y

[edgy laurel]

Ok, yeah certainly none of that.

[cosmic gazelle]

i have 1500 hours and there’s still many things i don’t fully understand

[turbid locust]

This used to happen to me but just randomly stopped a couple months ago

[south shuttle]

also when i was testing the silent wings 4 hs, they couldn’t spin below like 800rpm, when bequiet claims below 500 rpm

it makes me believe this is not genuine data

all units had the issue

[shell void]

the least problematic options are W11 23H2 (peak performance without bugs, but loses security updates in late 2026), and W10 21H2 (ugly ui and slightly worse gaming performance)

W11 24H2 and 25H2 give you peak performance with security updates, but the windows window manager has issues with chromium apps

[merry stirrup]

i wonder if i could mod VTTDDR control into the b550-a gaming

[south shuttle]

i tried playing with voltage manually

[turbid locust]

mikes on the fastest gaming pc you can build and is worried about 1-2% performance from OS

[shell void]

it's about 7% and i was using W10 until literally yesterday

i installed W11 24H2 out of boredom to see if it was fixed with registry tweaks and windows updates

it's still not fixed but it's mostly fine with VRR disabled

[turbid locust]

consider just not having the issue

[south shuttle]

like maybe i’m just nitpicking but it is concerning to me

[shell void]

if you need ultra low speeds to go below a quiet room's noise floor then you might need voltage resistors

especially with modern fans going up to 2500-3000rpm they often behave weirdly at 0-600rpm

[south shuttle]

my issue is bequiet’s misleading spec

[cosmic gazelle]

didn’t like hwunboxed just do a video on it

[south shuttle]

it just feels like the data pic they provided is false

and that no real testing was involved, like illustration

[shell void]

yeah w11 24h2/25h2 (same shit) performs about 7% in cpu limited gaming scenarios due to branch prediction improvements in the kernel

his 15% worse performance in gpu limited scenarios doesnt make sense

[compact lotus]

is my friend cooked? red dots on his screen but only on his game hes playing not on discord or the rest of the monitor. constant freezes, event viewer error 14 and 153 repeated

[south shuttle]

yeah i tried tweaking voltage at reasonable ranges, it didn’t help

[shell void]

it's possible that he forgot to enable HWAccelerated GPU scheduling in Windows 10, it's not enabled by default like it is in Windows 11

[turbid locust]

pc broke

[cosmic gazelle]

did no one know this before? i felt like this had been a thing since like a year ago

[shell void]

it's been talked about before

the update was backported to 23H2 so it's really 23H2+

[compact lotus]

picture he sent me

[cosmic gazelle]

can’t wait for the ubuntu version in 2036 that lets me play tarkov so i can leave windows

[shell void]

you can already play pretty much anything except for competitive fps games with ring anticheat in linux

[turbid locust]

Linux

[shell void]

if you care about small performance differences then windows will be king for a while longer

[turbid locust]

you can also just like lose performance across the board

[cosmic gazelle]

can linux take advantage of 3d vcache in highly sensitive titles

[shell void]

yes

[cosmic gazelle]

hmm

[shell void]

if you have a radeon card then it's practically indistinguisable from windows

with a nvidia card there's a bit of a performance downgrade

[cosmic gazelle]

i have a 3080 womp womp

[turbid locust]

indistinguishable at best worse at… worst.

[shell void]

pretty much 1:1 at this point with radeon tbh

you just lose the ability to play ring anticheat fps games

[turbid locust]

massively depends on game, LTT just did a video about it

[shell void]

165fps vs 170fps is a nothingburger

you wouldnt be able to distinguish it in a double blind test with high confidence

[turbid locust]

Does Linux still not know how to handle e cores

[shell void]

but yes if youre a nvidia gamer then there's a significant performance loss

[cosmic gazelle]

sad since the venn diagram between people who play valorant and people who would rant about linux superiority would be a solid circle in my mind

[merry stirrup]

what an incredible hidden setting

[shell void]

it figured out arrow lake faster than windows did actually xD

[turbid locust]

word

[turbid locust]

I mean beyond that Linux is just a worse desktop experience for people that… use computers

[shell void]

the main holdups in linux are gpu drivers, hdmi, and ring access anticheat for competitive games

pretty much everything else is solved

[cosmic gazelle]

dude linux still has immediate full support for GMA on a T8300 laptop I have

i’m not surprised

[turbid locust]

besides things that require you to not be in a browser to do

[shell void]

naw you can run pretty much anything without issue nowadays unless it demands windows like a ring anticheat or adobe software

you can even override dlss models with minimal effort now, but you lose a bit of performance with linux NVidia drivers

[turbid locust]

literally a lot of professional programs just don’t work

[cosmic gazelle]

my dad has ubuntu lts on a laptop with a core ultra 5 1st gen and he’s experienced some wack BMS/standby issues

[turbid locust]

App compatibility on Linux is still hell

nobody is spending their time configuring a program to work on Linux that would work by double clicking a desktop icon in windows

[cosmic gazelle]

in all fairness i’ve used linux like a handful of times and i tried installing the jagex launcher to run through wine and it kinda just worked

i was pretty surprised at the ease of use

[shell void]

i use some audio plugins that dont have linux versions so i can understand the "pro" software argument

but for most people linux does everything nowadays

[turbid locust]

Actual hellscape if you want to do anything outside a browser

[shell void]

it's not chromeOS xD

[turbid locust]

Might as well be

ChromeOS probably has better app compatibility via Android ngl

[oak vector]

ngl, kinda want it
2100 aud, 14900k, 64gb ddr5, rtx 4070

[cosmic gazelle]

you are quite mistaken mac, as a full windows user who thinks chromeos is the scum beneath my toes, linux is in no way comparable lol

[shell void]

i can hear the 14900K screaming from here in that little optiplex

but that's a good deal for the price

[oak vector]

should I sell my current pc, will only be 700 bucks out of pocket
then maybe I sell the 4070 and upgrade it

fuckkkkk

[cosmic gazelle]

dell and hp towers at minimum requiring full motherboard removal for cooler upgrading to a non oem unit is the most infuriating thing

[oak vector]

grrrr damn you marketplace forcing me to spend money

[turbid locust]

I daily drove Kubuntu on my laptop and EndeavorOS for 3 months on the desktop a year or so ago. Literally just an objectively worse experience in every way.

[oak vector]

also its a Dell Precision 3680 if anyone was wondering lmao

[turbid locust]

Linux is great if you like configuring operating systems

But if you enjoy using your computer

[shell void]

yeah dell and hp PCs have been genuine cancer since the X99 era

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean to be fair isn’t kubuntu like extremely stripped down and non user friendly

[shell void]

e5 1600 v3 Dell PCs were the last tolerable proprietary platforms

[turbid locust]

no? it’s fkin Ubuntu

Kubuntu is just Ubuntu with KDE

[cosmic gazelle]

oh

[oak vector]

grrrr its actually so tempting
I want that i9 and that ram - plus its a what, 30% gpu uplift over my 4060ti 8gb

[shell void]

if youre not down to learn how to tune a cpu then dont buy a 14900K

it burns power and kills itself at stock settings even on the latest uefi

[turbid locust]

not like ur tuning on a Dell motherboard anyway

[cosmic gazelle]

the cpu will be throttling so hard that i don’t know it’d be much of an upgrade

yeah exactly you can’t do shit with an oem mobo

[oak vector]

over an r5 5600.....?

[shell void]

it wants to boost up to 6GHz with hyperthreading enabled with stock settings which is literally impossible without a golden sample and direct die watercooling

[cosmic gazelle]

i kid you not i tested a 14700 non k “gaming” prebuilt from hp and it lost almost 30% multi core performance versus a typical custom build

[turbid locust]

Wouldn’t surprise me if Dell board super nerfed it

[shell void]

5.7GHz with HT enabled is the most that i could manage with my LF3 420mm using a very average 14900K sample

stock 14900Ks want to do 6GHz

[oak vector]

hmmm
so maybe i just keep looking...

I am willing to tune shit, but obviously that's to dell's discretion lmao

[cosmic gazelle]

mac could be right. most oem motherboards are hard capped on power delivery to prevent them from grenading themselves

[shell void]

setting wattage limits doesnt stop the two preferred cores from boosting up to 6GHz at 1.55v

[cosmic gazelle]

for example the 4790k in my dell 1150 system cannot draw more than 65w as limited by the bios

[shell void]

i love my 14900K because it's fun to tune and it's the last monolithic consumer desktop CPU, but it's basically the worst option to give to a normal person

[cosmic gazelle]

only loses about 7% performance in exchange for nearly 25% less power tho. so kinda worth it

[oak vector]

I'll be honest I live very close to melbourne, which has a VERY healthy second hand pc market hahaha
So I'm sure i can find smth

[turbid locust]

I’ve still never touched XTU lol

I did that 5.6/4.4 tune you gave me and never tried again

[cosmic gazelle]

isn’t a very well tuned 14900k almost competitive in games with some x3d cpu’s, i’m rusty

[shell void]

ive had to help several of my normie friends stop their 14900Ks from imploding

my normie friends that bought prebuilts and just want to play games

three out of three of them had games crashing

the default tuning is just HORRIBLE

[oak vector]

sigh

[shell void]

yeah a tuned 14900K system is comparable to a 7800X3D

[cosmic gazelle]

is there an established sweet spot for a power limit that lets the p cores stretch a little in single threaded scenarios

[shell void]

there hasnt been that much improvement since 2022 in terms of noticeable performance improvements if youre an enthusiast

[turbid locust]

I will max effort tune the 14900K once it’s out of my daily off jedec ram lmao

[cosmic gazelle]

i will just continue smiling with my 9800x3d running shitty micron ram and a -10 voltage offset and no frequency offset

[shell void]

:p

it's the ultimate ram latency platform so im surprised you havent been more interested in it

[turbid locust]

I can’t wait for my 9850x3d to not be able to do a +100 boost override lmao

[turbid locust]

Until recently I’ve been uninterested in non-dailyable tunes but I’m starting to embrace the “bench stable” lifestyle lmao

[shell void]

dram latency to the first cluster of efficiency cores in arrow lake is also better than AM5, but the mixed core layout murdered game scheduling and Pcore latency which ultimately killed arrowlake's success on desktop

[cosmic gazelle]

i’m going to try to ride out my 3080 long enough that i can justify another cpu upgrade when i replace it, and hopefully by the time that happens amd will figure out how to decently configure cpus without having to manually tune them

[shell void]

it was designed for cost savings and laptop thermals above desktop performance

[south shuttle]

not like it does much

bigger number better tho!

[turbid locust]

you can literally cmos clear your bios rn and still outrun any other cpu in games lmao

[turbid locust]

single core goes hard w it

[cosmic gazelle]

i’m aware it just pissed me off seeing 20% reduced cinebench performance before adjusting things

[turbid locust]

cinebench omegalul

[shell void]

at least you have realistic expectations

a lot of 9950x3d owners can only run like -5 or -10CO

[turbid locust]

6000/7800 sample incoming

[shell void]

6600 g1 gdm disabled, and 8600 g2 sample incoming trust the process

[cosmic gazelle]

i want my 13995x3d in 2032 to be able to do 7ghz all core with 65 watt eco mode and 1024mb l3

[turbid locust]

would shit my pants

[shell void]

(highly unlikely that literally requires binning 100+ samples)

[balmy glacier]

yo
thanks for the help a while back
managed to get it up and going
here's how it's lookin' now c:

[brisk jolt]

6KC40 1.3vsoc

[turbid locust]

just means you’re 1 away

[shell void]

sugi0lover gets binned samples from Asus which gives him the best chip out of a batch of like 150 CPUs

[cosmic gazelle]

i’m probably an idiot but i couldn’t get -15 to be stable on my 9800 lol

[south shuttle]

i got a 6400 sampel of 7800x3d first try ez

0% luck trust

[shell void]

this is what he's stated, not an assumption

sugi always gets unicorns for free

[turbid locust]

I’m like 99.9% sure my first 9800X3D did 6400 stable it just needed so much VSoC it made FCLK dogshit

[shell void]

1.3vsoc 6400 2000fclk is return tier tbh

[turbid locust]

it got returned trust

[south shuttle]

it’s always that one core that refuses to do -15 or -20

[shell void]

my favorite part about my 9800X3D is that all of the fused core VIDs were within 15mv of eachother so i never had to do per-core tuning

[turbid locust]

My second 9800X3D did good FCLK to the point I got DMs to buy it off me but everyone wanted me to sell at a loss which is kinda assholeish so

[cosmic gazelle]

michael have you ever done per core offsetting in ryzen master? i saw people said you could and i said “way too much work im good”

[shell void]

i just did all-core curve optimizer and it was fast

[south shuttle]

i literally run vsoc auto at 6400 it just works

[shell void]

naw like i just said

[south shuttle]

it’s 1.185V

[shell void]

all 8 of my 9800X3D cores are nearly identical silicon quality so ive only ever done allcore OC

[turbid locust]

I have and it’s not bad if you use that software tool that lets you change CO in OS

[turbid locust]

idk if this works on AM5 actually

[shell void]

percore tuning is suboptimal for menial task efficiency and gaming frametimes anyway

you should be doing allcore tuning if youre going to bother tuning

percore just wanks synthetic benchmarks which is why AMD and Intel do it

[brisk jolt]

same with my previous

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah i have not a ton of thermal headroom to work with anyways since im on a 280mm aio

[south shuttle]

i’ll try once more to tune micron ram on my asrock mbs

later

[brisk jolt]

i did like +200 -30 CO

[south shuttle]

micron hates me

hynix on asrock is like yh yh, few tweaks and u worky

micron is like random bsods after passing stress tests

[turbid locust]

My 7700x did +200 -30 and with a 90W ppt I was matching stock performance

[cosmic gazelle]

i have no idea how to ram tune so i just changed 6000 to 6200 and fclk from 2000 to 2167 because some forum told me to and it worked and i stopped worrying about it lmao

[shell void]

hynix adie in gear 1 is the easiest ddr5 tuning that we'll ever see

[young void]

[shell void]

mainly because everyone has done it so we know what works

[turbid locust]

I wonder how many people are running 6200/6400 on AM5 and it’s blatantly unstable but doesn’t crash so who cares lmao

[south shuttle]

8hrs of vt3 and then it crashes in windows 10 from being idle doing nothing

(micron)

[shell void]

guiltyspark ran -40CO on his 7900X for months that was very likely unstable xD

[cosmic gazelle]

probably me lmao

[turbid locust]

lol

[shell void]

my 9800X3D is OCCT stable at -40 but fails Ycruncher so i run -30

[turbid locust]

I will max effort my 9850X3D

I havent touched PBO in so long lol

[brisk jolt]

Im wondering what tf is wrong with my 265k but Im not home atm

[turbid locust]

All my AM5 benching recently has been 100% ram

[brisk jolt]

surely its not the guy fucking up the placement of the chip

[shell void]

i ran my 14900K unstable for like 6 months without any game or other software crashes

[turbid locust]

banger

[south shuttle]

idk at times i feel occt doesn’t show nearly as many errors as there are

[shell void]

i agree, i dont bother with occt anymore

ive tried pretty much every stress test program and ycruncher vt3 is the perfect mix of them all

it's the most strict option that ive found for both cpu cores and memory

it's convenient to only have to run one program

[cosmic gazelle]

@turbid locust you should do an igpu framerate before and after ram tuning on your 9850

instant youtube views

😂😂

[oak vector]

Oh beautiful it’s 110 outside rn

[turbid locust]

IGPU gets disabled boss

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah but before you disable it

[turbid locust]

ALTHOUGH. I have been told recently that on AM5 you should be running a light gpu load on the iGPU while ram testing otherwise your SoC is doing literally nothing.

From a very reputable source

[shell void]

i dont think ive had iGPU enabled in my main rig after getting my 750Ti in 2015

i only use iGPUs for systems with no dGPU

[cosmic gazelle]

i still think there should be a way to use my igpu to do the youtube decode on my 2nd monitor

[shell void]

compressed SDR video decode is very menial you dont need to worry about that

but you can enable your igpu and use it for extra monitors if you want to

it's sub-optimal if you dont actually need more monitors than your dgpu can provide

[south shuttle]

altough, if you do have a gpu in your system you should load it as well if your ram oc isn’t heat sensitive

[edgy laurel]

I thought it was neat to run my secondary off one of the USB C / TB / USB4 ports on my motherboard with a Type C to Type C cable for a bit. the novelty wore off and less software the better. (this nzxt secondary has a Type C input)

[merry stirrup]

wow arl-s has been in here since a very early 2025 bios

[south shuttle]

high trefi is what can come sweeping for you on am5

[turbid locust]

meme

[south shuttle]

if you have poor cooling

[turbid locust]

AM5 has never seen high tREFI

[south shuttle]

then you wonder why your games crash but not vt3

[shell void]

trefi is the single most important memory tweak

[shell void]

this is why you load your gpu while running ycruncher vt3 to account for the extra heat produced during gaming or work

[turbid locust]

Intel tuners will literally meme on you for running “Ryzen tREFI” lmao

[south shuttle]

yes

[shell void]

unless your gpu is watercooled with an exhaust radiator in which case it's unnecessary

[cosmic gazelle]

I turn hw acceleration off on my browsers anyways i’m just memeing lmao

[south shuttle]

my 3090 blows directly at my ram so… the difference is crashing at 60000 trefi vs not crashing

[shell void]

i believe you

[turbid locust]

Ram temp issues really just don’t exist if you just have a fan on em

[merry stirrup]

thats for people with shit memory cooling

[shell void]

i ran ycruncher for 10 hours with no issue at 1.6vdd, but then i loaded my gpu and crashed at 1.5hrs

[merry stirrup]

which i dont believe in

[shell void]

5090 bakes the ram if it's not watercooled

[south shuttle]

unless you live in a dessert ahaha

[merry stirrup]

+1 if naked dimms

[cosmic gazelle]

what if you just 2-3 years lancool 207 and forget

[turbid locust]

2/4 of my kits are naked

[shell void]

you could remove all filters and panels and it wouldnt really matter

ram heatspreaders have no meaningful surface area because they have flat surfaces

you need a fan directly on the memory to have good enough pressure

naked dimms perform better than oem heatspreaders

[cosmic gazelle]

do people actually buy ram blocks these days

[merry stirrup]

basically any heatspreaders in 1dpc configs

[merry stirrup]

more than ever

[shell void]

watercooled ram is extremely niche

most people just point a fan at the ram which is good enough for 65535trefi in ryzen pcs

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean if you’re gonna do hard line though like you might as well

i get too pissy about stuff that isn’t plug and play so i could never have a hard line pc but it does look pretty awesome

[shell void]

it do be pretty

ill likely never attempt hardline because im lazy and it has no practical benefits

someday i need to do a soft loop to unlock my balls tho

[cosmic gazelle]

i would totally commission a full copper system like billet labs makes if i had that kind of money someday

[brisk jolt]

this was the last source i expected to hear such news from

[shell void]

u gonna apply to micron?

[brisk jolt]

no

its all the way across the country

[cosmic gazelle]

like my gf would leave me if i spent 20k on this thing but

wouldn't it be worth it

[shell void]

potentially optimal

[merry stirrup]

wonder if any of this stuff is why the PBO in the ai tweaker menu doesnt work

[turbid locust]

same

I eventually want my bench to be a custom loop

[slim pebble]

Exactly what I did. 80MM Arctic Max does the job.

[low sorrel]

so i have learned in tarkov what happens if you're in game at raid end

[cosmic gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-bart-sad-crying-glitch-tears-gif-15570647

[brisk jolt]

my dumbass is reusing a p12 max for it

[low sorrel]

also i somehow spawned in with 100k rubles in my first scav run

[cosmic gazelle]

pretty common overall tbh

[shell void]

i have a p12 pro zip tied to the tubes of my liquid freezer that points at my ram

[south shuttle]

@shell void this is how my pretty much whole hynix tuning looked like

[shell void]

it’s not amazing but it’s good enough

[low sorrel]

my friend left to go study and im in my first solo raid and i have no idea where im at

[cosmic gazelle]

send screenshot

[slim pebble]

Does the job fine. That little fan is the price of not blocking my GPU.

[low sorrel]

i really should be doing this indoors

[slim pebble]

5090 Aorus heat exhaust all over that memory 🤣

[cosmic gazelle]

@low sorrel you are here

[slim pebble]

Someday I’ll grow enough balls to block my GPU! (I say that but I never do)

[south shuttle]

@shell void anything additional you’d like to see me change or improve

[low sorrel]

i died

[cosmic gazelle]

rip

[brisk jolt]

not the best but still alright

[low sorrel]

how do i see what he killed me with

[brisk jolt]

@shell void what the fuck is going on in jjk s3 my feed is filled with naoya -1hp memes and the guy aurafarming before getting his ass handed to

[cosmic gazelle]

you have to know from the audio and the ammo you got shot with

[south shuttle]

my hynix oc is stablito
my micron oc, im trying out what randomness suggested me

not stablito

[analog plover]

Other card and ram are paid actors lol

[low sorrel]

it sounded supressed and it was somekinda ar

[south shuttle]

it’s annoying me these micron D dies

[low sorrel]

probably an m4

[cosmic gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now-its-clear-now-i-understand-now-gif-21256627

[south shuttle]

although i didn’t oc for a while now

[shell void]

you probably wouldnt gain much from further tweaking, but this is what i run with 2x32GB A-die:

1.35vdd/vddq/vddio for this at 6000, and a bump to 1.43vdd for 6400

as far as i know going tighter than this is mostly pointless

[south shuttle]

also the hdv doesn’t like much when i touch the auto vsoc setting so i just leave it alone

[cosmic gazelle]

@low sorrel if it makes you feel any better this is like the best wipe i ever played on pvp

still only 37%

[shell void]

the most noticeable gain that i get from this tweaking is with high crowd density enabled in cyberpunk

but i typically use medium anyway to prevent drops when flying around

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-endfield-pog-chen-qianyu-chen-endfield-gif-6346082485097735735

[shell void]

just setting trefi to 65535 with everything else at jedec is a similar latency reduction to enabling XMP/EXPO

it's the most influential setting by far and it's not close

[cosmic gazelle]

nvm this was a lie hold on

[south shuttle]

i wonder why it lets you set tfaw to 20 and it applies once post when it’s actually 32

[cosmic gazelle]

nvm this was the best wipe i played

[south shuttle]

like with other timings it’s strict but tfaw

[pure garnet]

x870e taichi ocf is $499 new

do i go back to the asrock kingdom

[low sorrel]

what gun is this then

[cosmic gazelle]

nonono see here's the thing

you get the $90 ASRock A620AM-X WiFi instead and use it as a challenge

[south shuttle]

ak47 obviously!

painted ak47

[low sorrel]

oh it cut off my death oh well

[shell void]

let's be real that's meaningless

[cosmic gazelle]

oh you could tell it was an m4 from the pic lol

5.56 is the only red tracer in the game iirc

[shell void]

if youre buying a $500 OC board then just buy the $700 one that you actually want

it's not like it's $230 like a MPower

[cosmic gazelle]

also my man what gpu are you using that you're stuck with 35 fps on streets

you poor soul

[merry stirrup]

3060 at 4k and he probably has a shit cpu

[low sorrel]

3060 at 4k

5800x

wtf is this

[merry stirrup]

thatll do it

[low sorrel]

is that bad for tarkov

[merry stirrup]

just click apply on that screen every time jerry

[shell void]

honestly a balanced config nowadays with how op dlss is

[merry stirrup]

yes

[low sorrel]

bad or bad bad

[south shuttle]

do you know @shell void why it lets you set tfaw 20 in bios?

[shell void]

i have no idea

[cosmic gazelle]

try these except with dlss of some variety rather than taa high

[floral spear]

I love ricing windows :)

[shell void]

i use 32 because from what i understand going lower is pointless

[cosmic gazelle]

and textures on high instead of ultra

[shell void]

i dont know why that is

[low sorrel]

lol you think im not running dlss

[cosmic gazelle]

ya but do everything else and high textures

[south shuttle]

yep

[merry stirrup]

theres a lot of settings that you can set lower than what actually works

just a weird thing

[cosmic gazelle]

i'm tellin ya the settings i have on are optimal

the only boxes on the bottom you should have checked are streets lower texture mode and high quality color if you want it

[south shuttle]

i also noticed your tras is awfully high compared to mine but it’s not like it matters

it’s just funni

[shell void]

yeah i maxed it out because it does nothing

i run the realistic settings

[low sorrel]

oh why did it change off ultra performance

[cosmic gazelle]

because they're like margin of error from each other and high performance looks better

[low sorrel]

no wonder it was running like shit

[south shuttle]

well it does do something when you set it too low it causes instability

[cosmic gazelle]

oh i thought you meant hbao

[low sorrel]

no no my dlss went from ultra performance to balanced

[shell void]

ill probably just run jedec on Nova Lake because im too lazy to find the optimal values myself, and it won't be popular enough for Buildzoid to make guides for

[south shuttle]

i can’t do lower than like 60 trc

[cosmic gazelle]

definitely uncheck the boxes on the bottom if nothing else @low sorrel those increase gpu load for basically no reason

[merry stirrup]

tellin you its basically just his cpu

[south shuttle]

it causes goofy system behaviour and errors

[low sorrel]

already unchecked

[cosmic gazelle]

i had a 5800x and would get at least 50 fps on streets

[shell void]

tRC made my CPU cranky until i maxed tRAS so it was a double whammy

[cosmic gazelle]

he's heavily gpu limited judging by his statistics on the top

[merry stirrup]

before the expanison?

[shell void]

max the timing that doesnt matter and lower the other one

[cosmic gazelle]

like a month before 1.0

[shell void]

until bother floppa figures out the sauce anyway

[low sorrel]

god how am i still loading in

[merry stirrup]

🙏 see you soon

[cosmic gazelle]

-man who uses a 3060 to play games at 4k

[shell void]

3/4 of my ram knowledge is from floppa and the other 1/4 is from testing what other people have recommended

like buildzoid and random forum members

[low sorrel]

it might be the vram

[cosmic gazelle]

i play at 1440p on ultra textures and i don't run into vram issues

with a 3080 10gb

[merry stirrup]

its not

type in fps 3 into the console, the game will tell you how much vram its actually using

[shell void]

i imagine ram tuning will become even less relevant for gaming next gen because we'll be using 144MB L3 CPUs

[low sorrel]

oh why steam lie

[merry stirrup]

steam isnt lying

the game wants to allocate too much vram for some reason

[low sorrel]

yeah yeah allocation

[south shuttle]

which exact timings, i’d like to know

[cosmic gazelle]

and then turn it off because of this lmaoo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ5W88EEZ_Y

[merry stirrup]

the whole game lowers your fps

what main menu theme you have selected lowers your fps

[cosmic gazelle]

if it isn't labs you're objectively wrong

[low sorrel]

god frame times feel like ass

[merry stirrup]

whatever one has the lowest animations is the best

i think its factory or woods?

the unheard one and labs one hurt fps a bit cause the animation doesnt ever get paused

so that camera on the labs one is always moving

etc

[cosmic gazelle]

well if you have the unheard one in the first place you're a degenerate

[shell void]

genuinely brilliant gamecode

[cosmic gazelle]

so there's that

[shell void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1320549966225215583/1459615472927506594/Throwing_it.gif

[low sorrel]

my friend has the one that like they took away or something

[merry stirrup]

eod

i have an eod account but i have unheard now

[cosmic gazelle]

my impression is that most people that have played much tarkov bought eod

[low sorrel]

lovely lovely frametimes

[cosmic gazelle]

but now eod accounts are like $500 on ebay lmao

[shell void]

@merry stirrup unstable ryzen? or is that just how tarkov is

[cosmic gazelle]

most certainly the latter

[merry stirrup]

just how tarkov is but its jerry's config so both

i have idk 1900 hours in the game btw

[cosmic gazelle]

not quite there

[south shuttle]

gotta see my procedurally generated games

[low sorrel]

i need to stop alt tabbing

[south shuttle]

99% frame spikes, 1% gameplay

[merry stirrup]

just dont click lol

[low sorrel]

it hitchs for like the next 20 seconds when i tab back in

[merry stirrup]

actually alt tab into your game

oh might be ram or something then

[low sorrel]

i killed my friend by doing that

[merry stirrup]

turn on automatic ram cleaner

[low sorrel]

already on

[merry stirrup]

it doesnt actually work

so, toggle it off then on

[shell void]

@edgy laurel @steel stream do we think that Subnautica 2 will release in a playable state this year?

[merry stirrup]

and itll clean ram again

[cosmic gazelle]

auto ram cleaner forces use only physical cores for me which makes my shit stutter

lovely tarkov moment

[merry stirrup]

theres no automatic part about it

[south shuttle]

i bet 5 pesos that it’s going to suck

[merry stirrup]

auto ram cleaner has nothing to do with use physical cores

[south shuttle]

like cities skylines 2

[merry stirrup]

but you can just schedule tarkov manually

[low sorrel]

PPPFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTT my fps just went from 30 to 43 doing that

[south shuttle]

@merry stirrup what are your bets

[cosmic gazelle]

no like if i enable one the other automatically enables

i can't change it

[merry stirrup]

yeah

the automatic ram cleaner isnt automatic

[south shuttle]

10 pesos that subnautica 2 is going suck or 5 pesos that it’s going to be good

[low sorrel]

i love tarkov

[merry stirrup]

its just every time you rtoggle it

[cosmic gazelle]

see floppa 50fps :)

[merry stirrup]

i expect 40-50fps out of a ryzen 5000 chip on streets so like youre there

[shell void]

oh they recently posted a video about one of the new vehicles in Subnautica 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38xWO2AqDM8

[cosmic gazelle]

@merry stirrup you actually have an account rn or haven't played since wipe

[low sorrel]

whats the best map for fps

[merry stirrup]

ofc i have an account

[cosmic gazelle]

labs and factory

[merry stirrup]

labs at this point

[low sorrel]

whats the worst

[cosmic gazelle]

no like a played on account

[merry stirrup]

streets

[cosmic gazelle]

streets by a mile

[merry stirrup]

not a lot this wipe

[south shuttle]

why not just update the old game 😭

[low sorrel]

is this worth anything?

[cosmic gazelle]

damn i'm a pve scrub i was gonna see if you had a rusty key

[cosmic gazelle]

you will want to keep it

[low sorrel]

why is there a btr outside

[merry stirrup]

decent amount of pve kills tho

[south shuttle]

i’m really worried it’s not going to be good

like slime rancher 2, cities skylines 2

[merry stirrup]

pve is much too boring after a while

[cosmic gazelle]

eh pvp stresses me out too much, my best full-sweat no life wipe i had a 50% sr

[low sorrel]

what does this mean

[cosmic gazelle]

i like being able to chill

[low sorrel]

im confused

[cosmic gazelle]

you can give it rubles to take you places

[merry stirrup]

i float between 60 and 70

[shell void]

theres nothing to add tbh

[cosmic gazelle]

on pve i sit at like 85% because i die to a boss once in a while lol

[merry stirrup]

yeah to me thats boring

[cosmic gazelle]

understandable

[turbid locust]

I might be able to snipe a 4080 Super for a decent price. This may delay 9850X3D.

[shell void]

all you could add to subnautica 1 are graphics mods (would piss people off because they sap FPS), or QOL features that make the game easier

but the game is already pretty easy so meh

below zero is a flop and they cant save it

[turbid locust]

chat what price do we buy a 4080 Super at

[merry stirrup]

what does it perform like

[cosmic gazelle]

@low sorrel for reference this is a shittily tuned 9800x3d

[shell void]

it's worse than a 5070TI so idk

[cosmic gazelle]

around 100 fpsa

[merry stirrup]

damn no different than me

[low sorrel]

does ran oc help tarkov

[merry stirrup]

thats surprising for tarkov

[merry stirrup]

it is the most memory bound game i have played

[turbid locust]

slightly beats it in raster actually

[shell void]

it's basically a 5070Ti with an outdated display engine and worse framegen so it can't cost more than a 5070Ti

[merry stirrup]

so 500-600 range then

[low sorrel]

oh shit so i should actually go back off of xmp then

[turbid locust]

5070Ti’s are $830 cheapest new rn

[merry stirrup]

i paid 700$ for mine and i feel like thats an acceptable price one should pay for a 5070ti

[turbid locust]

you got a deal

[merry stirrup]

shortages are temporary dont let yourself buy a bad deal because prices are high rn

in a year youll be like "damn i paid 750$ for a 4080 Super"

[turbid locust]

4080 Super FE listed for $800 but post is “willing to negotiate”

[shell void]

ngl id sooner buy a 5070 instead of a 4080S for a secondary GPU

230W vs 350W and a display engine with DP2.1 and no DSC bugs

plus the better framegen

[cosmic gazelle]

i'm getting like 85 facing lexos tbf

[merry stirrup]

no im saying that its interesting our chips get the same fps

9800x3d is supposed to smack in tarkov

i dont have vcache

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean it's streets lol

[shell void]

40 series is just entirely uninteresting to me unless a friend offers me one at an unusually low price

[cosmic gazelle]

i get roughly 200 fps on every other map typically

but i'm also on shitty micron ram so idk how much that matters

[merry stirrup]

it doesnt

[south shuttle]

make an original game then

[merry stirrup]

all d5 can make the changes hynix can for game fps

[low sorrel]

i might be cooked i have no idea where im at again lmao

[merry stirrup]

values are just adjusted

[low sorrel]

i knew where i was and then i got lost

[shell void]

if you wanna be spooked then the WTTG3 demo released recently

it's unlikely that Subnautica 2 will outsell Subnautica 1

Panther Lake is spanking AMD so hard that even MLID recognizes it even though he recently called it Pathetic Lake

it's not even remotely close

1.6-2x performance and twice as efficient

[south shuttle]

take mlid with a grain of salt since he likes to take leaks from pretty much any source

[shell void]

no doubt, i frequently meme MLID because he's an AMD rumor glazer and makes unrealistic claims

but even he acknowledges that panther lake is OP which is surprising for a Ryzen shill channel

[floral spear]

I got bored

and decided to look at anime cursors

[south shuttle]

i lost most of my feature that’s in my brain called hype when it comes to leaks, got disappointed too many times

[floral spear]

look at this anime theme holy shit

[shell void]

real third party reviews of panther lake are out now so it's not just rumor hype

it's almost twice as powerful as strix point in gaming, and almost twice as efficient in web browsing and video playback

[floral spear]

its so old lmfao

[shell void]

before even considering that XESS3 is a more useful featureset than FSR3

truly brutalizing AMD in laptops

[south shuttle]

i acknowledge

[turbid locust]

mikes the biggest Intel glazer I know

[shell void]

i shilled strix point in 2024 because it was the best thing available back then

[floral spear]

tbh I have never felt hype since a game series got revived

[shell void]

but now in 2026 it's obsolete compared to panther lake

[floral spear]

I'm too broke to be hyped at a 3000$ card

[south shuttle]

what are the prices

[merry stirrup]

talking to a lot of people who spend more time messing with their own hw than gaming

[south shuttle]

i never through strix point was impressive or even good considering the price, i thought of it “as it is”

[shell void]

you can get a top bin chip with 32GB of ram, 1TB SSD, and OLED display for ~$1300

[floral spear]

True

the only time I will get super excited/hyped is if Deepcool comes back to america

[merry stirrup]

why?

they didnt make anything particularly impressive or even really unique

[floral spear]

I just love their cases man, sure Lian Li is cool but I love Deepcool

[south shuttle]

so $400 + $80 + $150 + the rest

[shell void]

panther lake is the enthusiast lineup for efficient laptops

it's not going to be a cheap lineup

[south shuttle]

i’ll continue praising the vega 11 then

[shell void]

you can get a pretty competent laptop for $350-450 nowadays if you shop previous gen ryzen apus

[south shuttle]

2400g and 3400g were underrated apus

consideirng the price

and you could’ve gotten them at msrp ✨

[minor herald]

by my standeds they where border line scam for how ass the cpu side was and the amd naming for them

[shell void]

strix point (Ryzen AI 9 HX 370) was the first X86 APU in recent years that i respected

before then laptops were kinda shitty

the efficient options were weak, and the powerful options were lap burners

[cosmic gazelle]

@merry stirrup what u know about this

[south shuttle]

yeah same with 5600g and 5700g

and 8000 series

[merry stirrup]

this is not at 9000 this is 8000 xmp with some minor changes and no cpu side

[cosmic gazelle]

🤷‍♂️ i'm on a 3080 but i doubt it really matters on streets

[merry stirrup]

probably for you

[south shuttle]

but at the time you got a usable apu for like $150-180

not strix point pricing

[cosmic gazelle]

@low sorrel for future reference this build is the best in the entire game and you should get it as soon as possible 😉

[south shuttle]

with inflation 150-170 would be like 210 now

[low sorrel]

oh my god i loaded into a tarkov game under 5 minutes

[low sorrel]

why the horiziatonal recoil so high

[cosmic gazelle]

machine gun

[south shuttle]

@minor herald 2400g and 3400g also have reduced l3 cache due to architecture

[cosmic gazelle]

horizontal recoil is a myth spread by the liberal media

[minor herald]

i know

[cosmic gazelle]

it's not real

[minor herald]

thats main reson why there ass like 4MB is WTF

[merry stirrup]

gotta be gpu limit

i dont see any realm that the 9800x3d is matched by a no effort 265k

[south shuttle]

you almost got a bundled up gt1030 tho performance-wise or amd’s gpu equivalent for gt1030 which i don’t know prob some r5 or r7 card

[low sorrel]

bro i died in tarkov in less then a minute from spawning

[cosmic gazelle]

🤷‍♂️ i get like 280fps on labs with my gpu pegged

so i'm happy

[minor herald]

i'ed take my 4790k+gtx 970 over that easy

[low sorrel]

fuck this game spent 10 minutes making a load out and loading and died within 60 seconds

[cosmic gazelle]

that's kind of how it works

welcome in the water's fine

[low sorrel]

im honestly more pissed about the loading time

[south shuttle]

vega 11 would be turned into pancakes compared to a 970

[merry stirrup]

the image i showed for the skill curve was not wrong jerry

[cosmic gazelle]

jerry how are you even going streets if you've never played before

[south shuttle]

but also vega 11 used to be cheaper than 970

[cosmic gazelle]

you have to do tour for that don't you

[low sorrel]

i didn't even see the guy

[minor herald]

not where i am

[low sorrel]

i got carried for 2 raids before my friend dipped

[minor herald]

or at least the time i was upgrading me pc at least

[low sorrel]

@merry stirrup i have to clear ram every single time i load in

i was fighting that guy at 24 fps

[minor herald]

💀

[merry stirrup]

are you 16gb mem?

[cosmic gazelle]

oh uh @merry stirrup my cpu was software decoding a 1440p60 stream on my other monitor

[low sorrel]

32

[cosmic gazelle]

that may have had something to do with it

[turbid locust]

cinematic gaming

[south shuttle]

i’d say it’s only quirk was efficiency and that it allows for smaller builds and that’s it

[merry stirrup]

lower textures so game stops wanting to overfill into system mem

[cosmic gazelle]

also if you play with postfx off i'm pretty sure it raises your fps by a little bit but that might not be true

[merry stirrup]

game doesnt really like running w/32GB its jjust barely manageable

[low sorrel]

what

[cosmic gazelle]

i'm on 32gb so maybe that's another factor floppa

[merry stirrup]

i am too

[cosmic gazelle]

oh

[turbid locust]

game runs incredibly ass

[low sorrel]

wait does tarkov want less memory?

[merry stirrup]

what

[cosmic gazelle]

yes install 1 4gb stick

[low sorrel]

im confused

[cosmic gazelle]

immediately, expeditiously

[merry stirrup]

no brother it wants more than 32

[low sorrel]

oh

wtf why

[turbid locust]

flopper 48GB kit when

[low sorrel]

it's like a 10 year old game

[merry stirrup]

32 is barely enough for the game to work, if the game is forcing your gpu to request mem from the system it just doesnt like it

[low sorrel]

how does it possibly need more then 32gb

[merry stirrup]

at least 4 streets

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/naoya-naoya-jjk-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-speed-gif-15797125621977248595

[low sorrel]

oh no that was on interchange i swapped maps

[merry stirrup]

oh i mean ur still running out of mem look at task manager

how many raids have you played

[low sorrel]

how do i see that

[merry stirrup]

no man just like

estimate

[low sorrel]

oh i figured it out anyways

[merry stirrup]

try just restarting

i love tarkov

[low sorrel]

has tarkov always been this unoptimized?

[merry stirrup]

yeah

i have screenshots of tarkov using 25+gb ram

[low sorrel]

uh im out of guns after this raid

[merry stirrup]

2024

[low sorrel]

how to get more

[merry stirrup]

2025 on a completely different computer

[low sorrel]

ppffffffft my memory usage in the main menu went from 28gb to 15.2

[merry stirrup]

tarkov

[leaden dawn]

Sucks tarkov took till Arc Raiders to get to steam

[merry stirrup]

you just gotta restart tarkov

[low sorrel]

whats the helmet here?

[merry stirrup]

no helmet

not high enough trader level to get anythign decent

look at fence for somethinig t3/t4 that lets you wear headphones

[low sorrel]

is there helmets that have no armor but have a ricohet chance

[merry stirrup]

the green one there blows

[low sorrel]

like in abi

[merry stirrup]

they all have ricochet chance

double click an item to inspect it (not a consumable) and read the stats

[low sorrel]

this?

[merry stirrup]

thats a replica and its tier 1

unironic worst helmet

[low sorrel]

guess im rocking the baseball cap then

[merry stirrup]

fire

get a balaclava

[low sorrel]

fire

[merry stirrup]

it like actually matters i promise

watch gigabeef bro will meta you up

[low sorrel]

iron sights because i can't figure out how to add a sight to my gun

[merry stirrup]

man this guys bricked

i kinda wanna mess with the 5700G's igpu but its so bad

[arctic bronze]

man , you should open down

[low sorrel]

is there anything on this screen i should mess around with?

[cosmic gazelle]

max fov sucks

[arctic bronze]

turn ur fov all the way down

[cosmic gazelle]

i keep it at 62 personally

[low sorrel]

my friend told me to turn it up

[merry stirrup]

i like max fov idk

[arctic bronze]

max head bobbing

[merry stirrup]

just preference, lots of people like 68 or 69

[cosmic gazelle]

well i just died to killa because i wasn't paying attention so i'm right

[low sorrel]

nice

[cosmic gazelle]

don't do him like that

[arctic bronze]

lowest fov and max head bob is peak gaming

[merry stirrup]

https://www.google.com/search?q=5800x3d
optimization guide

[low sorrel]

im good bro

[merry stirrup]

LOL

[arctic bronze]

buy it NOW

[cosmic gazelle]

floppa whats ur crafting level at rn

[merry stirrup]

idk i closed the gmae

[low sorrel]

oh my god im getting 80 fps now

[cosmic gazelle]

now this is peak gaming

[low sorrel]

i can play the video game

[cosmic gazelle]

are you perhaps not on streets

[merry stirrup]

turn visibility down to 400 or 1000 and lod to like 2.5 or 3

[low sorrel]

thanks floppa turning down settings made my fps go down to 60

[cosmic gazelle]

welcome to tarkov

[merry stirrup]

itll lock in eventually

that is in fact better those two setitngs are pretty cpu bound

[low sorrel]

im amazed that im not gpu bound

[turbid locust]

Every time I hear or see anyone talking about or playing Tarkov it somehow makes me want to play it even less

[cosmic gazelle]

that's called not having autism mac

enjoy it

[devout ridge]

why do people rave so much about AVX512

[merry stirrup]

the game is good and unfortunately by far the best in its genre

[merry stirrup]

stupid

[devout ridge]

what's it used for in the consumer space?

[merry stirrup]

its good but i dont care. my ps3 emulation is perfectly fast without it

[merry stirrup]

literally nothing, rpcs3 will use it

[turbid locust]

Oh we definitely got the tism just not tarkovtism

[low sorrel]

this is true all 2 of my friend i know from school are very autsitic that play tarkov

[cosmic gazelle]

LMAO

[devout ridge]

so it's literally just for piracy

[merry stirrup]

yeah basically

[devout ridge]

okay

[merry stirrup]

and if you have a modern computer you can do rpcs3 anyways

[turbid locust]

this is how I play skate 3 fuck you

[low sorrel]

i may have the case of the stupid

[devout ridge]

i'm looking at 2nd gen scalable xeons, not what i'd call "modern" but i also do not plan on emulating ps3 games on it

[low sorrel]

i turned left instead of right

[cosmic gazelle]

how am i supposed to play this game with my helmet's chinstrap clipping into my beard

[merry stirrup]

i promise you my 265K runs just as good as an 11700K

[turbid locust]

chinstrap clips into my beard irl so

[devout ridge]

(spoiler for the flashbang) i made a chart

[merry stirrup]

i use rpcs3 too i just dont have avx512

[low sorrel]

ahhh

[devout ridge]

I'm sorry!

[brisk jolt]

not autistic just russian inspired

[devout ridge]

No dark mode on google sheets

[low sorrel]

one of them is slavic

im not even joking

[merry stirrup]

just havent played in a bit (i have to steal a controller from my sister)

[devout ridge]

used the best ebay pricing i could for each price

[merry stirrup]

this one

[cosmic gazelle]

well time to go to bed to try to summon up the fortitude to go do lighthouse quests

[low sorrel]

I DID SOMETHING

[merry stirrup]

2nd gen scalable

[devout ridge]

worse than the 6230 in multithread, identical in singlethread

[turbid locust]

I have to be up for work in like 3.5 hrs lol

[merry stirrup]

14nm, 2019

[cosmic gazelle]

W

[merry stirrup]

its half the price

[cosmic gazelle]

floppa over under 15 fps on streets with a xeon gold

[devout ridge]

it's 2x the price...

i'm talking about the 6230 not the 6230r

[pure garnet]

floppa how bad is ddr4 pricing

i got a terrible idea

[merry stirrup]

oh i was llooking at 6230r yeah my bad

[low sorrel]

he was a poor fuck like me but we take it

[pure garnet]

x99 time

[devout ridge]

16gb ddr4 ecc ram is 75-100usd per dimm

[merry stirrup]

i have found decent deals on bdie

[devout ridge]

LINK

[pure garnet]

wtf is this bundle man

[low sorrel]

hey can i get some help im lost

[cosmic gazelle]

what the hell is a gt 720

[pure garnet]

probably a marginly better gt 710

[devout ridge]

"i found this in a dumpster" bundle

[cosmic gazelle]

go the other way

[analog plover]

Guys I thought coolers were optional PC no longer works help

[devout ridge]

install cooler, pc now work

also maybe plug the power cables in your damn gpu

[pure garnet]

the brown pcb motherboard surrounded by noctua fans is an interesting budget allocation

[analog plover]

I sold them to save money😔

[devout ridge]

and get rid of the vomit brown noctua fans

[analog plover]

It’s black pcb it just looks brown in the pic

[devout ridge]

glare make look brown

[cosmic gazelle]

if you turn around from where you're facing in this image and keep following the train tracks you will eventulaly reach railway extract

[young void]

DooOoom

[cosmic gazelle]

the top fans being reversed from each other might be the most cursed part of this image

[analog plover]

Its great for the big air cooler👌

Which definitely isn’t on my desk or anything, totally sold it

[young void]

As long as it gets air whatever makes the turkey purkey

[low sorrel]

it's not extracting

[cosmic gazelle]

there's literally no way having the top fans like that is beneficial

[cosmic gazelle]

whelp you don't have that extract time to run to the opposite corner of hte map have fun

[analog plover]

Noctua and gamersnexus say otherwise👌

[merry stirrup]

turns out its all gone, what do you need bdie for tho? you dont oc

[analog plover]

It makes sense. Blow air onto the cooler and into the fans for the cooler, then still exhaust it

[merry stirrup]

fr? i cant find any cheap bdie so

[devout ridge]

you think it would work in a R630/r640?

[merry stirrup]

not for oc lol

[devout ridge]

i mean just work

[merry stirrup]

its non ecc so probably not

[devout ridge]

damn, sadge

[young void]

Can't even find cheap ssds anymore 🙁

[devout ridge]

IKR!

[arctic bronze]

welcome to 2026 :D

[young void]

kicks rocks

[merry stirrup]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/358061865203? @pure garnet 75$ for bdie

confirmed bdie, 4.31 version number and i mean its 3466

[pure garnet]

wait is x99 gonna even scale on b die

[merry stirrup]

bdie does equally as good/better trfc as hynix a die

bdie has more qualities than high freq

you may be running 3200 but itll probably be at like 12-14-14

[pure garnet]

yeah but by the time i buy 4x8 of b die + x99 cpu/ board i may as well just buy an apex to do dumb gear 2 tuning

[merry stirrup]

yeah they used to be 40$ a kit i think i paid 36$ for mine

[devout ridge]

looking at maybe getting a new server

[merry stirrup]

hurray

i have a bunch of d4 ecc but theyre 4gb dimms im pretty sure lol

[low sorrel]

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

[cosmic gazelle]

that’ll happen

[brisk jolt]

I wanted to get a external SSD yesterday but its fuckin 200SGD for 1TB- times are rough

[low sorrel]

i stopped for one second because i realized i didn't have money for the extract

and this fuck was extract camping

[subtle hinge]

its so bad that prices are triple

[cosmic gazelle]

may have just been wrong place wrong time, very few people extract camp these days

[brisk jolt]

I got a 2TB 990Pro for 250 SGD and now its 400 SGD like are we done

[merry stirrup]

unless interchange

[low sorrel]

it's interchange

[merry stirrup]

lol

[low sorrel]

im going to play arc raiders now

[subtle hinge]

i was at target and saw a 2tb wd black external for 100 but it was mico usb

[low sorrel]

im tilted

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah but why would they camp v ex of all places

that doesn’t make any sense

[merry stirrup]

i didnt know where he was but i run into people sitting in the power place all the time

may not have been camping but its a pretty high traffic area

[low sorrel]

vex

[merry stirrup]

yeah thats right by v ex

[low sorrel]

So far,raids with my friend:
100% extract rate

Solo raids:

0%

Could I be the problem

[merry stirrup]

well yeah

but its also not a good thing to rely on your friend to carry you the entire time

[low sorrel]

Nooo

[merry stirrup]

not fun for him or you really

[low sorrel]

Hey I carry him in CS and Arc he has to do the same for me

[pure garnet]

get good

[merry stirrup]

agreed

[arctic bronze]

im so fucking bored

[proven saddle]

Run in circle to pass out

[arctic bronze]

I didnt say I cant sleep

I sleep fine, im just stuck in my dorm with nothing to do

I wanna do shit outside with my bike

but the bike is 2 1/2 hours away

and the snow/ice is keeping me inside

[proven saddle]

Build some crazy shit

[arctic bronze]

I am, its my senior project

lmao, im tired of it

[low sorrel]

Build a bomb

[arctic bronze]

perfect idea, the school would love that

but the senior project lasts 2 semesters long, this is the 2nd semester

I have 13 more weeks left

[low sorrel]

"how to protect a school from a bomb threat tested with a live actual bomb":

[arctic bronze]

ah yes

[proven saddle]

Uhh say it was the guy from the other side

[arctic bronze]

"lets put your skills to the test" type idea

[arctic bronze]

what

[floral spear]

hello so fucking bored I'm mom

[pure garnet]

my school doesn’t have a senior project for whatever reason

[arctic bronze]

it depends on your major tbh

[pure garnet]

aren’t we both it

comp sci doesn’t either here though

[arctic bronze]

mine actually changed after my 1st year, it was originally an internship but they changed it to be a project

[arctic bronze]

yeah im IT

[arctic bronze]

crazy

lucky ass XD

ik there is some majors that just has going out and getting experience as their "senior project"

[pure garnet]

i did package stuff for alpine locally for a semester though

[arctic bronze]

yeah

[pure garnet]

that was optional and i signed up for it

counted as an elective

[arctic bronze]

this past Christmas break and summer break I did an intern over at a medical company thats been rapidly expanding, I was actually their very first intern

[pure garnet]

we’re working on/mostly setup a deployment where you just netboot an image and run from ram after so people can have elevated privileges to learn in

[arctic bronze]

oh nice, I did some of that in my classes

[pure garnet]

and at the time alpine didn’t have lxqt with wayland so we packaged that

[arctic bronze]

but we did other stuff

[pure garnet]

i tried to do rstudio for personal reasons but that was a disaster

[fervent scaffold]

I keep seeing these AsiaHorse branded fans being promoted, anyone know anything about them?

[devout ridge]

cheap

[fervent scaffold]

Cheap junk? Or just cheap?

[devout ridge]

unsure

[arctic bronze]

thats dope, I worked and field tech so I went to several states to install networking, transport and install computer, monitors, printers, cameras and all that jazz

[fervent scaffold]

Thats why im curious

Putting together a system for the wife rn and she wants a white build

Trying to figure out if they’re decent ish for the price

[pure garnet]

for budget fans i’d go artic

i can’t see a reason to go below $5/fan

[arctic bronze]

become a baller and spend $25/fan

[pure garnet]

i mean yeah

[arctic bronze]

cough* $30/fan

like me

[pure garnet]

i only use a12x25 chromax rn

[fervent scaffold]

Theyre these infinity mirror lian li looking ones for $17ish a pop

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-frieren-anime-sousou-no-frieren-proud-mhm-mhm-gif-3580814240197487137

[pure garnet]

and 2 silent wings pro 4 140mms or whatever

[arctic bronze]

https://a.co/d/0S6KOOu

:D

[fervent scaffold]

$50 for a 3 pack

[proven saddle]

They build fusion reactor or something

[proven saddle]

And you can do gallop

[pallid marsh]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rFBzK8/thermalright-tl-c12c-x5-6617-cfm-120-mm-fans-5-pack-tl-c12c-x5 $18.09 5 pack

[indigo walrus]

I just finished watching the entire first season in 2 days. I am craving more but must be patient.

[arctic bronze]

lmao yeah, season 2 is awesome

[indigo walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/spoilers-gif-18103587485280460179

[arctic bronze]

that and jjk

[arctic bronze]

no worries, I dont do that

[proven saddle]

How much does this job pay?

[low sorrel]

@merry stirrup how do you stop heavy bleeding

[arctic bronze]

what

jjk?

[merry stirrup]

calok b, cat, esmarch

[arctic bronze]

most interns are not paid, I got lucky but its minimum wage, so 12/h

[proven saddle]

Do you know s4 of invincible?

The trailer just got out

[arctic bronze]

these are random ass questions lol

im not a fan of invincible lol

[proven saddle]

Are you sure?

[arctic bronze]

This is good news mark, we can be bees

https://tenor.com/view/good-news-we-can-finally-be-bees-invincible-mark-omni-man-meme-gif-17978969663615411174

[proven saddle]

They went creative into fever dream like

[signal timber]

Wha

https://tenor.com/view/context-context-hat-i-require-context-soyjak-wojak-gif-11496174374422496290

[arctic bronze]

read up?

[signal timber]

https://tenor.com/view/midnight-the-cat-stopped-working-midnight-the-cat-cat-cat-meme-funny-cat-gif-14891720892157260225

[arctic bronze]

dude just read up, im not ur dad

[proven saddle]

Give him time he prob woke up or isnt a bee

[fickle yacht]

anyone know why my PC would be stuttering in every game i play period

[arctic bronze]

need more context

[fickle yacht]

i have a 7900xtx, i have random frame skipping while my fps doesnt drop below 250

i've tried to change amd adrenaline settings

[arctic bronze]

what game

and is your monitors refresh rate set correctly

[fickle yacht]

first it was in warframe but it even happened in geometry dash

[arctic bronze]

is your cpu too hot or is your ram maxed?

[fickle yacht]

i can relaunch warframe and check in a sec

my hz is correct

my CPU is arounf 40 celcius and my ram is at 42%

my gpu is constantly maxed out, though im pretty sure thats normal

[arctic bronze]

how about vram

[arctic bronze]

is vsync on?