tech-chat-2

[brisk jolt]

im running 65535 trefi and like 500 trfc rn

[turbid locust]

I mean realistically your current board is perfectly fine for daily

mpower bench board

what else do you need?

[brisk jolt]

he needs a 5090 and 9850x3d/9950x3d

[pure garnet]

i need more h24m to use with the ocf

[turbid locust]

relatable

Ram is so fucked rn tho like shit

[pure garnet]

like i can daily my a die but

losing the capacity is not awesome

[pure garnet]

at what speed though

this is my daily config

[brisk jolt]

6200C26, I cant even push 7800 gear 2 with the board

[turbid locust]

My 9850X3D will likely end up in my MPower with my H16M in gear 1 for daily

[brisk jolt]

is h24m the 24gb ICs m die

[pure garnet]

i wanna do more stuff with my mpower but the 7800x3d is boring af

[brisk jolt]

Im considering getting one and getting rid of the 32gig c30 kit

[pure garnet]

yeah

it's good for high freq

[brisk jolt]

i found a kit for not a bad deal considering market conditions

64 gigs close to 1ksgd for 6kc30

the 48 gig kit is 700 sg

[pure garnet]

the only thing i don't get with my msi board is why it fucks up sleep occasionally still, my b650e-f didn't do that

[turbid locust]

buy random shit

my 9600x is fun

boots 8400, does 2200 FCLK

[brisk jolt]

its crazy how people think they’re slick selling 32GB OC kits for close to 64GB kits

like icl paying 800 sgd for a 32 gig 8k kit is diabolical

[turbid locust]

but yeah this is my vote. Buy a couple random Zen 5 chips to play with.

8500G, 9600x, and 9700x

[shell void]

hoopla

[pure garnet]

i need more cpu before gpu

[brisk jolt]

im looking at what dates I can go get myself the 265K

it translates to basically none

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-hoopla-excited-excitement-gif-5059277

[turbid locust]

Exactly

[pure garnet]

no as in

faster cpu than 9800x3d

[brisk jolt]

yes babe its time for ur zen +5%+1%

[oak vector]

core i9 9900k
cos i9 better than ryzen 7

<@&750150305383186585> scam

why is everything so damn loud today wtf

[grizzled lily]

9950x3d

[sinful pollen]

synth ur msg is marked as a spammer

[edgy laurel]

they know

[lunar comet]

Whats the bare minimum ups wattage and va spec for my 9800x3d and 4070s, basically a system that runs at least 600w tops u guys think?

Google says 1200w but I think thats a bit much

[odd sable]

you can mostly ignore VA

the watts is what matters

[brisk jolt]

that system is gonna eat like 500w at most lol

[lunar comet]

I currently run a 600 ish watt ups from my old build and it just shuts down instantly during power outage. I basically treat it as a voltage regulator rn

[odd sable]

modern (last long time) PSUs have APFC, so the power factor is usually 0.98 or better, which means the VA and Watt draw is basically identical

[odd sable]

have you replaced its battery?

[edgy laurel]

You just want something that isn't going to complain if you happen to pull maximum power. Honestly, thing is probably like 400W on a good day absolutely flat out on CPU and GPU

[lunar comet]

Have yet to see how much it actually uses + peripherals

[edgy laurel]

But the higher VA ratings will end up meaning longer runtime at various loads

[lunar comet]

I see

[odd sable]

larger battery means longer runtime

strictly speaking, higher ratings aren't needed for that

[lunar comet]

Things are fckin expensive. I just need it to run for at most 2mins when power outage happens to just shut down properly

[odd sable]

a pretty basic 1500VA unit will probably be fine then

[edgy laurel]

My 1000W/1500VA unit will run my system at its ~100W idle (PC and 42" OLED) for ~40 minutes which is all I really care about. More than enough time to shut it down in the even of an outage + spare juice for other uses if I happen to need it (charging phones/tablets/whatever)

[lunar comet]

How much watts thats decent

[odd sable]

800-1200, depending on how generous the mfg is

actually, some are 1500VA/1500W, but those aren't super common

what country are you in?

[lunar comet]

In manila rn

[odd sable]

aight, ill have no idea on what the price would be then, nor where to look for one

[brisk jolt]

i wanna get the h24m kit so badly man

[odd sable]

worth considering, your current UPS might work fine, and just need a new battery

[brisk jolt]

but $500 USD is diabolical

[lunar comet]

There are decent brands here like apc

[odd sable]

the SLA batteries in UPSes need to be replaced every 3-5 years

[edgy laurel]

heh.. my old APC I let that thing go till it complained

damn near 10 years

then it started complaining about a fan failure under any sort of load so I stuck it in the closet to only power my router/ont

[lunar comet]

My current apc ups is holding up pretty well

[edgy laurel]

it can live its life at 30W

[lunar comet]

Whats the lowest va i can go?

Just looking at the bare minimum specs then ill slowly work up from there if i see one reasonably priced.

9800x3d, 2x16gb ddr5, 4070S, 2 monitors (1 1440p 100hz and the other 1 1080p 75hz), 9 fans, wired mouse and keyboard, and other stuff

[edgy laurel]

You should determine max power draw among all the components you need backed up (don't forget displays since if you can't see, you can't really interact with the PC to turn it off) . Then determine how long you'd need it to run at idle loads (assuming power goes out while sitting at the PC and you close everything immediately to achieve idle)

[odd sable]

i really like that mine can go 24/7 if the load is low enough

[edgy laurel]

then pop those numbers into this and make a decision https://www.cyberpower.com/eu/en/tools/sizing/ups

[odd sable]

at normal load, it'll make it the better part of a day

[edgy laurel]

Yeah this is for an entertainment/gaming PC, I just want piece of mind and to prevent unexpected shutdowns. If power goes off, I just shut it down

since I probably have bigger problems at that point

[lunar comet]

Noted

[odd sable]

yea, ive got my servers on mine, and my "UPS" is really just a solar system

[lunar comet]

Single phase or three phase?

[edgy laurel]

single..

[odd sable]

im in the US, single phase

[edgy laurel]

watts rating for max load is going to be the gotcha

since if you put say 100W for 20 minutes into that, you're going to get out 480W units

[lunar comet]

Im going to get myself the so called kill-a-watt thingy

[edgy laurel]

and that might be cutting it close if you happen to be running a CPU and GPU benchmark at the same time + your display

[edgy laurel]

most you'd buy today can give you power draw right on the screen

or if there is USB connectivity, in HWINFO

i thought this was neat but i've never "used" it for anything really

[lunar comet]

Itll just be a one time use to me. Know how much watts everything is using then thats it

[edgy laurel]

keep in mind again to factor in the display

[pure garnet]

9800x3d under stresses pulls about 160w and a 4070 super should top out about 225w

you need to account for inefficiencies in the psu as well though + other components

[brisk jolt]

@pure garnet does the horse agree i shld get a h24m kit

[pure garnet]

it's the only ic i really like so yeah

[lunar comet]

Everything is plugged into my poor ups. I think plugging in the ups to the watt meter would work.

[brisk jolt]

time to sacrifice the h16a midass die

[edgy laurel]

if you think you need to do this before buying a UPS, you really don't

you can make accurate enough educated guesses with a little research (we've given you 90% of it)

[lunar comet]

Fair but theres nothing wrong to see actual results right?

[edgy laurel]

if you're running a normal LED backlit LCD thats like 35W (edge lit) so basically nothing

all up I can't imagine you'd need a UPS that would have to cover more than 600W with headroom

then you take that and look at whats available and what fits in your price range

no extra purchases necessary

you can do a little guestimation here, its not an exact science

[lunar comet]

Ayt

Did some box digging and found my ups is 650va and 350w. Oh the poor thing

I never really took into account how much watts my ups is until now. Damn ive been running it on overload the whole time

[edgy laurel]

have you?

again, we were talking max power worse case scenario hitting all components with a stress test/benchmark load at the same time

if you're just gaming, thats not going to happen

and most UPS's will sound some sort of alarm if you hit their max power

so maybe, maybe not

[shell void]

if you have a line interactive UPS (pretty much all consumer units are in this category) then you’re not using the battery until your power is cut

so you’re not actually overdrawing your UPS 24/7

it’s just acting like a glorified surge protector

[edgy laurel]

the APC unit I have but no longer use will still scream if you overdraw it on AC power

learned that while benching two PC's at once

[shell void]

yeh my cyberpower UPS is like that too and it’s annoying

i muted it because it’s easy for me to do 1KW+ in games

[lunar comet]

It concerns me mine doesnt sound. I game for hours on a flight simulator that would not doubt put a ton of load on the cpu and gpu and my ups doesnt seem to show a warning.

[edgy laurel]

if its a cheapie 380W unit it might not.

[lunar comet]

Makes sense

[lunar comet]

Found this affordable one

[low sorrel]

@frank cypress

@pallid marsh

[slim pebble]

I ended up getting a rack mount 1000W unit and it doesn’t complain as much.

At worst, a UPS is a cheap insurance policy for a PC that costs thousands to replace today.

[brisk jolt]

icl ts hella lazy

[pallid marsh]

rip CCE

[lunar comet]

Calculated all my hardware and my rig is at most 500w everything included. I also found this apc ups but its only 650w

Not sure if a 150w buffer is good enough. Cyberpower calcu says it should be 720w to have a 10% remaining and a 5min runtime

[pallid marsh]

could also get a power meter to tell you how much your rig is pulling when doing a full stress test

[lunar comet]

If i understood it correctly guilty said that wont be really necessary

Oh sht nevermind i found one

[frank cypress]

lol

i saw

[low sorrel]

memory express execs eating good tonight

[frank cypress]

tbh

i've always preferred ME over CC

ME customer service has always been way better, in my experience

canada computer just.... sucks balls

[low sorrel]

ok but the ME website is fugly

it's not 1999

you can update your website

[pallid marsh]

Hey it looks a bit newer then 1999

[karmic folio]

2000

[subtle dawn]

i need help with omv if anyone has experience with it. I had a nas for the longest time running OMV with mergerFS and SnapRaid. A few days ago i had a power outage which didn't kill anything thankfully but after it, my mergerfs freezes the file systems menu (constant loading loop). Tried reinstalling the os like 7 times and trying other disks but to no avail. I know it's not my backplate considering the disks mount fine without mergerfs. Idk what to do. I've been at this for days now. I'm installing an oldstable version to try but whilst that's happening I thought it would be good to ask this question

[proven saddle]

I think you got a problem

[subtle dawn]

absolutely

[topaz veldt]

Someone is getting ripped today

Everything went great over the weekend - but apparently our facilities needed emergency fuel delivered for the generators just in case, but someone dropped the ball there

We has fuel, but apparently we burn like 300 gallons an hour, someone napkin mathed and yeah we would be way too low - so imagine trying to get 10,000 gallons of fuel delivered in a blizzard

[woven adder]

300 gallons an hour thats crazy

[topaz veldt]

yeah its a lot

[woven adder]

diesel or petrol

[topaz veldt]

diesel

[woven adder]

ar you working some data center or powerplant thats alot of fuel

[topaz veldt]

the company I work for has its own datacenters

5 or so of these

[woven adder]

thats a monster

how much horse power is each engine?

[topaz veldt]

Hmmm not sure - but that one is 1.250 KW

there are 2 1.250 KW and then the rest are I think 1.5 KW

[woven adder]

no no no thats not possible

i have a gas generaTor home that is 4 KW

these will be much powerfull

[topaz veldt]

Srsbsns

[woven adder]

according to gemini " In terms of electricity, one gallon of diesel can produce about 12.5 to 14 kilowatt-hours (kWh) in a generator. "

so 300 gallons and you can do the math

thats alot of energy

[topaz veldt]

I already know how much we consume from a power perspective 🙂

[woven adder]

does your company have solar panels?

[topaz veldt]

no

[woven adder]

why

[topaz veldt]

Because we don't need to generate power

[woven adder]

oh ok

[topaz veldt]

Our supply is not an issue

We had a major snow storm incoming so we like to make sure we have fuel, but apparently someone oopsied and missed fuel scheduling

We are near a couple different nuclear power plants

[woven adder]

hm

the power that you get from the power plant how does that work

[topaz veldt]

wires 🙂

[woven adder]

how much volts is each wire

[topaz veldt]

many thousands of volts I am sure

[woven adder]

and what is that you do for this company?

[topaz veldt]

I design the datacenter from an IT architecture perspective

[woven adder]

that sentence went straight over my head can you simplify it a bit?

[topaz veldt]

uhh I do IT

btw that T123-7K36 engine generator is 2200 horsepower

its a 49 Liter engine

(2975 cubic inches)

[woven adder]

so you manage the servers and how the data is stored stc?

[topaz veldt]

I design it, someone else manages it daily

[woven adder]

thats alot of power

[woven adder]

is your work on site or remote or a combination of both?

[topaz veldt]

I work from home unless I want to go look at stuff

[woven adder]

how long have you been in the industry?

[topaz veldt]

16 yrs or so

[woven adder]

and whats your qualification and i promise this is the last question

[topaz veldt]

I am not sure what you mean, I have experience, a degree, and a resume

[woven adder]

by qualification i meant what is your degree in ?

CS software engineer etc

[topaz veldt]

computer science, but semi unrelated

[woven adder]

ok

got any questions for me?

[topaz veldt]

lol nope

[woven adder]

well i got one for you

[topaz veldt]

<@&750150305383186585>

[woven adder]

whats the name of your company if you dont want to answer i understand

[topaz veldt]

Not sharing that

[woven adder]

ok

i understand

i need your opinion

are you still here

[topaz veldt]

yes

[woven adder]

im in college where can i get entry level tech jobs

linkedin and indeed are saturated as hell

[topaz veldt]

no magic answer - just have to grind

[woven adder]

i believe if i was more handsome than life would have treated me differnetly

[shell void]

KING PAT!

[granite dirge]

I hope we get power back at my house by when I get home from work. It's no fun today

3 people including myself scheduled for my departments today at work I'm here. But I don't think the others are.

[shell void]

@steel stream @hoary hatch intel arc supremacy

damn near twice as fast before even considering that you also get XESS3 whereas FSR3.5 is stuck with garbageware

[hoary hatch]

Hold up

140V is 8 Xe2 cores

140T is 4 Xe1 cores?

Oh 140T is 8x Xe LPG+

It's just the meat eater laik iGPU

[hoary hatch]

Incredible performance from M5
I'd like to see strix halo in there

[shell void]

strix halo’s gpu is spec’ed for 55-125W

which is why it was super embarrassing when amd begged media to compare panther lake to strix halo

[hoary hatch]

Yeah I just want a number, it's certainly not thermally comparable

[hoary hatch]

And then they can show perf/watt

[shell void]

digital foundry had some panther lake and strix halo comparison benchmarks a couple of weeks ago

[hoary hatch]

They had RT on for their benchmarks iirc

Which isn't fair to rdna3

I mean it's fair but like it really puts AMD in a bad spot

[shell void]

i think it’s very fair to play current gen games with current graphical features

and highlight that AMD has still refused to back port FSR4 officially

it’s a relevant factor to a consumer

[hoary hatch]

Maybe

I've never used RT still

Uhhh maybe I tried tuning it on in BF5 once and immediately turned it back off

*I've used Minecraft shaders that kinda did RT but can't use RT hardware

[turbid locust]

Speaking of Minecraft

it’s about time for that 2 week Minecraft run

[shell void]

AMD’s first party favorable numbers put the 395+ at 37% faster than X9 388H

[hoary hatch]

Do you only play Minecraft in 2 week binge sessions

[shell void]

idk what TGP or games they’re using for that

[hoary hatch]

That's not a lot more performance for a lot more GPU silicon

[shell void]

practically 4x the silicon area and it’s meant to run at 2-3x the TGP

[topaz veldt]

uh oh

[granite dirge]

Just gotta survive 8:15 mins and a drive home then .. 2 days off

[hoary hatch]

Oh my

99.9 Wh in a thin and light? 🤤

[turbid locust]

Yeah about twice a year

Anyways we gonna figure out how a swagtra on all seasons handles snow and sleet later

[shell void]

Radeon HQ:

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-panic-fire-gif-27173222

[proven saddle]

We need the heat

[shell void]

Panther Lake having an almost 20% efficiency lead for web browsing over the Apple M5 in a MBP14 is kinda wild

but i’m sure M6 will reclaim the crown

[proven saddle]

Browser games in 120fps

[mild sentinel]

it looks cool , till they actually show the price of zenbook duo 💀

[turbid locust]

Price doesn’t matter none of us is buying this shit anyway

[proven saddle]

Non

[shell void]

idk man i want one

compared to AMD Strix Point it’s:
-almost twice as fast in games
(before even considering that you get XESS too)
-more than twice as fast in video editing
-almost twice as efficient in web browsing

no wonder AMD was panicking and begging media to compare it to Strix Halo instead

[fervent chasm]

Why aren’t they comparing to 8060s

[shell void]

that’s a different type of product

[fervent chasm]

Why? Price range?

[shell void]

the gpu in strix halo is spec’d for 55-125W and is several times larger

it also costs a lot more yes

Panther Lake is comparable to Strix Point and M5, Strix Halo is more like M5 Max

you could compare Panther Lake to M5 Pro, but that doesn’t exist yet

[fervent chasm]

Ah, so at the power budget and size of strix halo intel would probably outperform the 8060s then too

[shell void]

if it scales well then easily yes

[fervent chasm]

I’m glad there’s so much focus on the iGPU now

[cosmic gazelle]

hmm

[fervent chasm]

I want a cheap laptop with crazy iGPU

[cosmic gazelle]

i'm looking more at the minutes per watt hour and i'm not super impressed

the actual performance is great though

[fervent chasm]

Can’t they apply this and scale it with dGPU? Wouldn’t that be really power efficient?

[shell void]

it’s the most efficient chip on the chart, wym?

[cosmic gazelle]

streaming video it's kinda just "really good"

[hoary hatch]

Yes
Also giant piece of silicon

[shell void]

oh for video streaming okay i thought you were referencing my browsing chart

[cosmic gazelle]

nah

[hoary hatch]

It's good for streaming video

Apple is just stupid insane for streaming video

[fervent chasm]

That’s 4k at 60Hz tho

Just drop the power mode to efficiency

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah i never said it was BAD. I just don't think it's as massively groundbreaking, the 99whr battery is kinda carrying a little

[hoary hatch]

Oh my god my work thunderbolt dock has a fan and it is the shittiest fan I've ever heard

[shell void]

apple’s dedicated media engines are OP

[shell void]

well that’s normalized so the capacity is meaningless

[cosmic gazelle]

i know and normalized they don't look as impressive

which is what i'm saying

[shell void]

it’s still putting up almost double the performance of AMD and tying snapdragon which is cool

[cosmic gazelle]

however, the performance is bonkers and that's great

[hoary hatch]

The panther lake and lunar lake chips used are probably the worst case for battery in those families

[cosmic gazelle]

that's fair

is the 388h a 45w chip? passmark doesn't have an input for TDP

[hoary hatch]

Most lunar lake operates at a lower tdp (although this may have little effect in video playback)

[shell void]

it’s configurable 25-65W but the default config for most machines should be 25W

[fervent chasm]

Do we know what the best iGPU out of those Intel ones is comparable to in dGPUs?

[cosmic gazelle]

if we're assuming the 2 people that ran passmark ran it with 25w config, then that's really impressive multi core

[hoary hatch]

Also I think them calling the iGPU B3XX axes any possibility of a super cut down BMG-G21

[cosmic gazelle]

my current laptop processor btw, i know it's not recent lol

[hoary hatch]

Man I wanna see Xe3P

[fervent chasm]

You’re comparing 6 cores to 16 tho

[cosmic gazelle]

12 threads to 16 and single threaded is still quite a bit better for half the power budget

more threads scale within the same power budget, but not linearly

so it's still impressive

[shell void]

it’s similar to a RTX 4050 mobile

[hoary hatch]

4P + 8E + 4LPE

[fervent chasm]

Oh god it has the LPE cores?

[hoary hatch]

All core 300 series has 4 LPE

Most of the work should be done on the main 4+8

[wraith steeple]

[shell void]

those 4LPE are part of why it’s able to get crazy webbrowser efficiency

[cosmic gazelle]

so like is intel just completely abandoning low end "3" branded chips now

where's the budget stuff man

[hoary hatch]

No

[hoary hatch]

Twin lake
No that's not it uh

[shell void]

this is the enthusiast tier of low power chips, they’re still making cheaper stuff

[hoary hatch]

Something like
The cool one

[fervent chasm]

the last i3 was Raptor Lake

[hoary hatch]

Hold on

[cosmic gazelle]

the last mobile i3 i used was a 1115g4 and it was a real piece of ass

[hoary hatch]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-details-core-300-wildcat-lake-series-up-to-6-cpu-cores-2-gpu-cores-and-slower-npu-than-panther-lake

Wildcat lake

Xe3 on Intel 18a 😛

[fervent chasm]

enterprise, yay

[cosmic gazelle]

what

[hoary hatch]

"edge"

I expect it in mini pc

[cosmic gazelle]

i'm cool with this provided it can beat an n150 or whatever their recent "n" is in power efficiency

[fervent chasm]

ive only seen the "G" in enterprise laptops

[cosmic gazelle]

oh no those were massively popular in low end crapware

[hoary hatch]

It will demolish N150

[cosmic gazelle]

for example

[fervent chasm]

its only 50% faster than the N100 lol (im talking about the i3)

[cosmic gazelle]

now to be fair for $128.70 this is not a horrible laptop

but it still sucks overall in the grand scheme of things

[hoary hatch]

Wildcat lake is 2 cougar cove P and 4 darkmont LPE

On a full EUV node 😛

[shell void]

64bit memory and 2Xe with only 2MB L2 xD it’s extremely low performance

[hoary hatch]

It's also low cost

No advanced packaging

[shell void]

hopefully

[hoary hatch]

No filler dies
No base dies

[turbid locust]

what if we separated the silicon and attached it with dental floss though

[hoary hatch]

Low cost compared to everything not monolithic Intel 7

[fervent chasm]

My issue with this is you can probably get something way faster for like $200 open box

[cosmic gazelle]

even worse is the i7 variant, the user thinks "ooh i7 it must be fast"... it's less performant than an i3-12100 desktop

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah probably

[hoary hatch]

Meteor lake, lunar lake, arrow lake, panther lake are all expensive compared to wildcat lake, ignoring die sizes

[fervent chasm]

Like its cheap, but its stupid slow too

[turbid locust]

you ain’t gotta like it cause the hood gon love it

you ain’t gotta like it cause the hood gon love it

[hoary hatch]

Wildcat lake uses basic packaging and only 2 dies, one 18a and one N6

[fervent chasm]

id be most annoyed by the iGPU tbh

[cosmic gazelle]

is the wildcat igpu super bad?

[fervent chasm]

actually looking now, its not that bad for the wattage

[cosmic gazelle]

oh wow these gaming framerates for the 388h are great

only thing they're worse than is the 8060s

but that's kind of vaporware

[hoary hatch]

It's not gonna be high performance

It's there for basic tasks, not gaming
This is geared as NXXX replacements

[cosmic gazelle]

i've managed to game a bit on my 760m in my laptop. but it's definitely not ideal and it hits 99c with uncapped framerates

[fervent chasm]

finally

[hoary hatch]

It should be a lot better than N100 igpu

But it has piss poor memory bandwidth

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah the n100 igpu is really really really bad

[fervent chasm]

Intel needs to redo their stick PCs with the NXXX replacement

[turbid locust]

eye gee pee you

[fervent chasm]

gimme this but faster

[brave panther]

Single channel?

[hoary hatch]

It's there for display out purposes
What do you expect from the cheapest silicon they can produce xD

[cosmic gazelle]

i just want intel to start wholesaling super basic pc solutions so i don't have to comb the internet for whatever the cheapest n100 is at any given time

[hoary hatch]

Michael said yes

[brave panther]

Steam deck

[turbid locust]

N100 is actually kinda baller for simple home server stuff

[fervent chasm]

You can get N100 mini pcs for really cheap sometimes

[cosmic gazelle]

for 6 watts or whatever it is, it's fantastic

[fervent chasm]

less than $100, but to me that still feels expensive for what it is performance wise

[cosmic gazelle]

it just annoys me that i have to buy my n100 pc from xiaoiejoojoy or whatever if i want the cheapest price

[fervent chasm]

exactly, whatever is the cheapest on aliexpress

and sometimes the listings disappear so you gotta find a new one

[cosmic gazelle]

honestly in my area, aliexpress is more expensive than most ebay stuff these days

because of the extra fees since the tarriffs n all that

[fervent chasm]

i just make new accounts for the signup bonus

you can get like 40% off

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah but i only have the willpower to do that so many times 😂

and they won't let you use a temp email, i've tried

[fervent chasm]

you used to be able to do plus addressing

[cosmic gazelle]

like no ram bnut this is still great, but why do i need to buy a pink one from "nimo"

just let me buy it from intel 😭

[fervent chasm]

can get it for $130 with 4gb ram on amazon here

[cosmic gazelle]

that wouldn't really be a good deal

[fervent chasm]

ah, didnt realize how cheap that was

or an N97 with 8GB for $140

which is apparently much faster

[cosmic gazelle]

wouldn't say "much" esp considering the power consumption

[fervent chasm]

double the wattage tho

yah

[cosmic gazelle]

and for some reason the n200 is like, significantly worse?

[fervent chasm]

it has better iGPU tho

[brisk jolt]

its alive

[shell void]

glorious

[brisk jolt]

this was a pain in the ass to build

like my ass actually hurts

[topaz veldt]

That looks like an NCase?

[brisk jolt]

formd

[topaz veldt]

Ncase and FormD are related

same site basically

[turbid locust]

Is that the 5070Ti Prime

[brisk jolt]

yes

[turbid locust]

That gpu is so perfect for SFF

[wraith steeple]

[turbid locust]

@merry stirrup if you ever gpu upgrade I want the 5070Ti back lmao

[topaz veldt]

Sandwich is a pita, though I still love the Terra

T1 has like no vents

[viral surge]

My monitor is bottlenecked massively by my gpu

[viral surge]

It is not funny

[turbid locust]

physically ill from this message

[brisk jolt]

I was struggling to mount the 5070ti with the mobo bcs the gpu kept sagging out of the case

[viral surge]

I need to gain braincells

[viral surge]

Sorry bro I need to gain braincells

Rtx 5050 ( laptop,it is more powerful than it's desktop varient)

3440*1440p monitor

The rtx 5050 laptop is more powefrful than the desktop varient

Yes you heard it right

You can look it up if you want

The laptop varient comes with gddr7 memory and the same tgp (depends on the laptop)

Nvidia is weird

[slim pebble]

Select channel “tech-chat 1” and go tell them all about it.

[wraith steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/burnt-peanut-side-eye-the-burnt-peanut-gif-6339277251445282356

[brisk jolt]

i havent done anything with it i just got the thing assembled

the cable management's also buns but im waiting for some fans to arrive

[slim pebble]

So far it’s pretty, amazing job!

I added a Wireview 2 to my PC last night. Please note that this is completely unnecessary and not surprisingly, everything works within spec for the 12V2X6.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/291632136853651456/1465187299737206917/9E42BCEB-AF40-49C7-AA8A-6226B3519693.jpg?ex=6978da42&is=697788c2&hm=bef1ab55b1cbe2c707060f10629f2815ec3324091001c3f40204682be68f95bb&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1300519613976809533/1465189216052052050/30B9ADF6-E666-475F-9E11-CF85E4B49C95.jpg?ex=6978dc0b&is=69778a8b&hm=ff1e271bce7881239b2cccb6b2752c05e36bd185172149d7daa7a59db6888f59&

[wraith steeple]

Would be nice if TG would bring more stock to US

[brisk jolt]

Looks very nice

[topaz veldt]

In the case (no pun) of my NCase M3, I had to kind of set some of the parts in and torque the chassis screws with some like "pre-load" (pre-bend) up, to get everything how I wanted.

The Ncase M3 has almost no gaps in the machine work, so if it sags or pulls it looks like ass

[brisk jolt]

nice one i got so carried away I forgot to do laundry

[slim pebble]

I ordered from Germany. The only practical thing about the whole thing is the little fan that cools down the connector.

[slim pebble]

Did you get the duo mesh with the dust filter or the single?

[topaz veldt]

I have the standard Ncase M3 Grater

and its perfect (except I want the grater side panels which they seem to have like... never made)

[brisk jolt]

Doesnt look too shabby at all, considered getting one

Good job me, I just realised I didnt put thermal paste

[pure garnet]

it is optional

[shell void]

our PCs in IT class didnt have thermal paste under the CPU cooler because he had us swapping them so often

ye olde i3 7100 worked fine without it

[brisk jolt]

Im waiting on memory training rn and honestly I might fall asleep

then again this C5 CU fan is screaming so I dont think i can

[pure garnet]

when i had to take apart and reassemble a system for my college class the ram was in the 3.5” bay

might be the only time it’s ever been reassembled properly is when i did it

[shell void]

why is it taking so long

my am5 pc is only like 45 seconds even with dual rank dimms

[shell void]

[pure garnet]

time goes up with capacity

[brisk jolt]

idk its like the first boot

[shell void]

im up to 9915 hours on my LG A2 48"

i think this is the most that ive ever used one display

[turbid locust]

Is dual rank really this bad lmao

[arctic bronze]

I cast: Dementia

[turbid locust]

45 seconds is like AM5 launch training times

[shell void]

yeah it's like 45s IIRC after clearing cmos

i dont think it's that bad

i use MCR and also sleep :p

[turbid locust]

oh after clearing cmos

[topaz veldt]

This is why I went non sammich

[topaz veldt]

ya'll should see 1.0-3.0TB hosts

[turbid locust]

45 minutes

[topaz veldt]

They are better now, but yes, like 1st and 2nd gen intel scalable... 30 min boot times

[edgy laurel]

whatdawethink Venturi's dual Epyc systemis like with 1.5TB

AMD so probably all day

[topaz veldt]

I haven't paid attention to our EPYCs booting

[edgy laurel]

would MCR even be a thing on a board like that

[topaz veldt]

no

since its doing JEDEC they don't really have "MCR"

[edgy laurel]

true

[topaz veldt]

90% of the dead time on big capacity boot is mem test

they call it mem test at POST I can't tell if its training or legit checking memory

[edgy laurel]

code 15 on our consumer boards seems to indicate it

[topaz veldt]

yeah there's none of that

[edgy laurel]

no point in a display on a board that will be burried in a rack in a datacenter

[topaz veldt]

thats not wher ei was going

there's no code status on BMC/FSM

it literally is "memory test"

let me see if I can show you what I mean or not

[edgy laurel]

I'm imagining REAL old school systems where the memory would literally count up on screen

then display the total amount and that its "OK"

[topaz veldt]

yeah i think its doing that to a capacity just not counting

[edgy laurel]

yeah I know what you mean

[green marsh]

sarcastically, this is a budget option in current market 😄

280 + 320 euros for 4x16GB

[shell void]

that looks awesome

[edgy laurel]

one might say optimal

if you're going to have dual 5090's, might as well have dual Epyc 9684x's

full thread full of wonderful pictures https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/dual-5090-fe-rtx-dual-epyc-9684x.338274/

[lethal topaz]

thermaltake core p3???

this case is my goat

[shell void]

i love real computers

[lethal topaz]

oh wait thats probably a p5

[edgy laurel]

the PSU he moved to, baller

[shell void]

on another note, what is that chunky monitor?

[edgy laurel]

Asus PA32UCG-K

[shell void]

oh he listed it

4K120 miniled proart

it probably has actually good dimming and not a chinese meme algorithm because it’s proart

[edgy laurel]

he's mentioned the systems primary function is playing with massive amounts of radiology imagery

[lethal topaz]

whos setup is this?

[devout ridge]

dual 5090?

[edgy laurel]

see above linked thread

[shell void]

honestly conservative for that rig

[lethal topaz]

ah its a thread

[shell void]

he has dual 96 core x3d epycs and 1.5tb of ram

[edgy laurel]

the CPU's are the real stars IMO

[shell void]

i’m surprised he doesn’t have dual pro 6000s

[edgy laurel]

oh yeah, and the memory

[devout ridge]

96 core x3d epycs????

did he get a second mortgage?

[edgy laurel]

you see he had 5090FE's but one was cooking the other and the motherboard in turn

so moved to the Gigabytes

[shell void]

i believe it

mark runs his at 300w apiece because they roast

[topaz veldt]

It'd be fun to consolidate all mine into one monster build

[devout ridge]

he has the cards in the worst possible orientation compared to the board

[edgy laurel]

you'd need a real platform

[topaz veldt]

Kind of surprised with all that its even on 5090s

[edgy laurel]

i gather thats its a case is balancing usable noise levels

and having enough horsepower for the job

[topaz veldt]

I'd just go Pro 6000s at that point

[edgy laurel]

yeah but then you'd be in the same boat as when he had 5090FE's

one cooking the other

[shell void]

naw just PL

[edgy laurel]

and being loud

[topaz veldt]

I wouldn't air cool

Its like the dude forgot about the cooling part

[edgy laurel]

well, he solved it it seems with the chunk-master gigabytes

[shell void]

air cooled GPU servers are going the way of the dinosaur

it’s just not practical anymore

[devout ridge]

will always be practical to me (i use ancient gpus)

[topaz veldt]

I am not sure how gigabytes solved anythiung though

[shell void]

well i’m talking about enterprise

[topaz veldt]

600w is 600w

if your prob is radiating heat, its still radiating heat

[devout ridge]

likely just the airflow pattern

[edgy laurel]

he explains it all. they're not cooking eachother anymore, its more distributed heat and far less noisy

[cosmic gazelle]

I was gonna build a system like that but I didn’t like the way the case looked so i bought a single 3080 instead 😉

[edgy laurel]

so its clearly working

[topaz veldt]

He just needs to find a few more dollars and properly cool it

[edgy laurel]

on page two he mentions briefly thinking about watercooling the CPU's

[cosmic gazelle]

i just wonder what medical imaging workload he does that allows 192 cores to be used effectively

[topaz veldt]

the GPUs are prob the only thing that really need it

[devout ridge]

those are some sexy blocks

[topaz veldt]

but Its so much build for only 64GB of VRAM

[devout ridge]

radiology imaging

i’d imagine he’s looking at something from some fancy ass machine though

[topaz veldt]

but like... why not buy a server with GPUs for that?

I never really understood his use case

[shell void]

watercooling the 400W 96 core CPUs that probably don’t crack 55c instead of water cooling the GPUs 🔥

[topaz veldt]

Yeah we have those CPUs in air cooled blades

there's not even a fan stack specifically for the CPU

[devout ridge]

the heat is so spread out that the cooling solution doesn’t matter a whole lot

[edgy laurel]

the only person i've ever seen talk about/post "GravityMark"

https://gravitymark.tellusim.com/

[topaz veldt]

Its def a work write off

data center on a bare metal means KMS key lol

[edgy laurel]

yeah I've seen mention of the parts being partly through his work

[topaz veldt]

yah

You wouldn't put Datacenter on a baremetal

the only benefit to it is unlimited virtual machines, so its really a hyper-v host license

[edgy laurel]

ahahahahahahahaha

"desktop"

[topaz veldt]

yah

All of my high core stuff is running linunx

so best to get a pic like that is btop

[low sorrel]

Snail did you see that the new mode in arc raiders is a 1v3 mode

[topaz veldt]

nah

@edgy laurel I still think this is hilarious

[shell void]

can that even transcode a movie

are you sure it’s powerful enough

[edgy laurel]

grumble

[young void]

XD

[devout ridge]

bit underpowered imo

[edgy laurel]

probably needs to swap out for an Arc A310

[devout ridge]

maybe quadro a1000

[edgy laurel]

Nvidia has screwed themselves by killing the Quadro name and not replacing it with something similar

with nothing else to say in its place, everyone still just says Quadro

[wraith steeple]

[low sorrel]

Is it not Quadro

[edgy laurel]

it is not

RTX A1000

[shell void]

Quadro RTX 8000 (Turing)
RTX A6000 (Ampere)
RTX 6000 Ada
RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell

same type of thing but the Quadro name died

[edgy laurel]

It was like a real name and not just "RTX"

so it feels right to keep saying it

is my theory anyway

[shell void]

a lot of people that currently engage in pc hardware talk only got into PCs during covid and don’t really know what Quadro is

we’re Uncs

[edgy laurel]

You had your GeForce stuff and your Quadro stuff, it was all very simple. Now they've gone and cocked it all up - James May, probably

[pure garnet]

just had to downgrade my bench pc to a 6700xt, so sad

[edgy laurel]

what died

[pure garnet]

sold my 4070 to ennui

[edgy laurel]

oh

[pure garnet]

the only other nvidia gpu i have now is a 970

[edgy laurel]

3.5GB of fury

[shell void]

i understand that it’s niche but i wish nvidia still sold slot powered consumer cards

i’d like a tiny 75w 5050 to have as a spare

[edgy laurel]

Yeah I just don't think there is a market for it

[shell void]

no doubt

[pure garnet]

it was really struggling in wow last i tried using it

[shell void]

i put my arc b580 back in my jellybox yesterday

[pure garnet]

xiv with mods gets vram hungry bc modders take 0 effort to compress anything

like if i sync my friends appearances it's like +2gb vram minimum for 4 people

[livid flame]

Quadro was the real deal. A proper name. You knew what you got.

[cosmic gazelle]

p620 modded vbios when

[hoary hatch]

@frank cypress you bought something not Turing? Are you okay?

[frank cypress]

I achieved the dream and now I just want something decent

[hoary hatch]

Valid tbh

[split spruce]

Is it worth it spending $200 more for an extra fan on an AIO?
Same AIO, just one extra fan

[edgy laurel]

its not just one extra fan, its a physically larger radiator

if its worth it will be if you need the extra capacity for what you're cooling

or if you just think it looks better

[cosmic gazelle]

also what aio is $200 more than any other aio

[frank cypress]

value is subjective

id say skip the whole aio

buy a ps120se

[hoary hatch]

No lol
Surely there is a similar performing alternative that is not $200 difference for an extra 120 or 140mm of rad

[pure garnet]

dw i shipped it in a turing box

[hoary hatch]

Doing the Lord's work

[frank cypress]

cant escape the turding

[pure garnet]

ironically the box i’m sending ennui is from the gpu i sent floppa

[frank cypress]

oh word?

the 2070s ftw3?

[green marsh]

spending much more than $100 is weird idea considering Arctic LF3 exists in various sizes

[pure garnet]

not a ftw but uhhh

xc3 maybe?

[frank cypress]

ah

istg floppa had a ftw3

🤔

[pure garnet]

he might for something else

i sent him a 2070 super he immediately resold locally

[frank cypress]

ohhhh

yeah prolly then

cause he used the ftw3 iirc

[turbid locust]

explode 2FA. Fucking ban it. Fuck this.

[topaz veldt]

lol

what the prob is mac

[livid flame]

2FA is lame af

My company said they’re looking into biometrics to remove it because of all the complaints on everything with 2FA

[low sorrel]

reject 2FA revert to 4 digit pin codes

[topaz veldt]

I dunno - its whatever

[merry stirrup]

i had one yeahc

[merry stirrup]

homies little brother pc

[topaz veldt]

I had a 2080 Super FTW3 I think

[merry stirrup]

good cards

[topaz veldt]

xc ultra*

[merry stirrup]

ah yeah i had a 2070S ftw3 ultra

[topaz veldt]

I had such a bias against this build

I never gave it a fair chance honestly

I was maining a 9900K Z390 Master with 2080 Ti all custom looped

and I built a 3900X or something as a secondary because my bud kept talking AMD

[fervent chasm]

god fucking damnit I hate eBay

the dude who sold me the laptop put a sticker with the specs and stuff onto a piece of the laptop that was slightly peeling

and when I took the sticker off like a ton of the part that was peeling came off with it

[fervent chasm]

are any of those dimms fillers

[topaz veldt]

no

[fervent chasm]

is it a server cpu or something?

[topaz veldt]

that was 4 x 16GB 3600 CL16

[fervent chasm]

ah

[topaz veldt]

That was a desktop like 5 years ago

[fervent chasm]

i could game on that today

[topaz veldt]

meh

3900X or 3950X or whatever, it was mid

the hostname was "hotgarbage"

[fervent chasm]

i love it

[shell void]

four 3-core CPUs with skylake performance glued together

versus chad monolithic 8 core 9900k

[topaz veldt]

9900k was peak then

[shell void]

split CCX design was so horrible

[shell void]

i’m surprised you didn’t do a 7980XE

[topaz veldt]

Honestly wasn't really into PCs as heavy

Server shit... .car shit... house shit

[turbid locust]

I can’t get into my H&R Block account because it has an old phone number attached to it. DESPITE me using the correct password and entering a code from my email.

Like why do you need an email code AND text code like fuck you

[pallid marsh]

Such a small aio

[topaz veldt]

it was basic hot garbage dude

[pallid marsh]

From the asetek copy paste factory

[topaz veldt]

it was a corsair platinum blah blah

[hoary hatch]

Corsair H100i RGB Platinum

Yeah old design, not very good

And LL fans on a rad, also bad

The new Corsair AIOs are pretty competent

But the older stuff is a bit mixed

[merry stirrup]

i like my nautilus thing is pretty gucci

[hoary hatch]

I'm still stuck with elite capellix

No changing until socket 1954

[merry stirrup]

why "stuck"

[topaz veldt]

It wasn't old in 2019 lol

bros, you realize I am sharing a build from 2019 right

[edgy laurel]

my old H50 120mm

[merry stirrup]

kyoko has a bomb en-route to my location

[arctic bronze]

3((1+1+1)/0) x 0

[frank cypress]

et tu?

im excited to have another ad104 gpu

[wraith steeple]

[arctic bronze]

isnt that 20 series?

[merry stirrup]

ermmmmmm undefined

[merry stirrup]

20 series is turing

[frank cypress]

20 series = TUXXX

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/smug-shrug-emoji-eyebrows-gif-6637925383422877302

[arctic bronze]

ah ok,thx

[merry stirrup]

AD=lovelace

[frank cypress]

TU1XX, GA1XX, AD1XX, GB2XX

i've had so many tu102s tho it's crazy

[merry stirrup]

when your 4070 arrive

[arctic bronze]

your're*

:)

[floral spear]

I aspire to have this clean of a build one day

[merry stirrup]

convince me to go to the store

[proven saddle]

tiny

[hoary hatch]

*compared to the current AIO/pump offerings from Corsair

Yeah of course it was new back then lol

[pure garnet]

dude the post office guy almost dropped it because i didn’t him how heavy it was

[merry stirrup]

LOL

[hoary hatch]

So much blue

[merry stirrup]

dense ass fucking psu man

[floral spear]

Can you go to the store and get me some meatballs? Cheers

[pure garnet]

well it’s also center in the box

so there’s just a central 12 pound mass in the middle of the box

[merry stirrup]

lmao fair enough

[wraith steeple]

what did Kyo get?

[pure garnet]

floppa bought my leadex platinum se 1200w

ennui bought my 4070 dual

[wraith steeple]

Based Superflower

[merry stirrup]

cant hate them considering they make the psu in my server atm

[edgy laurel]

that era of gigabyte

[wraith steeple]

I have an EP45 based board that's like that

[edgy laurel]

yeah, that one was P35

[floral spear]

I hope founders editions stay black

[merry stirrup]

then i will have 2 decent pcs capable of doing things or whatever

[edgy laurel]

GA-P35-DS3L. that number is for some reason like my SSN or bank account, burned into my memory

[floral spear]

I want to make a full black build

[wraith steeple]

https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/gigabyte-ga-ep45-ud3p-rev-1-1

board in question

[floral spear]

That's a lotta blue

[edgy laurel]

so blue, orange, purple and for some reason a splash of lime green

[pure garnet]

ebay apex time….

[merry stirrup]

i had an asus p8h67-v LE

as my very first ever custom motherboard

my bad, h77

[hoary hatch]

Mid-later 2010s they went big on orange

[edgy laurel]

what was H67, what gen of chips

[merry stirrup]

sandy/ivy

i had an E3-1230 V2

[edgy laurel]

trying to remember what this was. Haswell refresh chip

[merry stirrup]

which was a 3770

[edgy laurel]

H97 rings a bell?

[merry stirrup]

z97 stuff

[merry stirrup]

prolly

maybe h87? i think thats haswell too

[hoary hatch]

What was the cool name for haswell refresh

[edgy laurel]

one of those

[shell void]

the portrait orientation EPS triggers me

[merry stirrup]

devils canyon

[hoary hatch]

Beautiful

[pure garnet]

4790k and a 1080ti is all you need

[edgy laurel]

4690k

microcenter talked me out of 4790k

and fuck if I knew the difference at the time

[green marsh]

H67 is Sandy Bridge

[merry stirrup]

an incredible specimen

[arctic bronze]

for what

[wraith steeple]

Last ever board we had that had Floppy connector and IDE

[pure garnet]

oh it’s a quote from @turbid locust

[wraith steeple]

[edgy laurel]

bro there are people gaming on this today

[merry stirrup]

sadly

[green marsh]

me still running a pair of

[turbid locust]

All you need

[merry stirrup]

love the slocketed vrm

[edgy laurel]

need more VRM? Just slot some in

[green marsh]

it's soldered, bt it is on a separate PCB, yes

[merry stirrup]

there was an asus board where it was socketed but yeah

[pure garnet]

lowkey i might buy like a 3060 or something as a backup gpu

my only spare nvidia card is a 970 now and that ain’t happening

[edgy laurel]

that looks like it would pull up and out

oh, well the left side does. the right side looks confusing

[merry stirrup]

3.5gb mem going strong

[wraith steeple]

I still have a decent bit from my original LGA 775 build from back then..... gives me an idea

[merry stirrup]

you can vbios mod maxwell

[livid flame]

Get a 6800xt

[willow ruin]

I have a hunch my OS SSD (purchased in late 2019, early 2020) is potentially approaching EoL - what's a good test for this? Could just be Windows 11 2025 H2 is as much a pile of poop as I suspect, but damn.

[pure garnet]

im good

[pure garnet]

https://tenor.com/rg5joNDekcc.gif

[frank cypress]

someday

[pure garnet]

it said the 2nd

[merry stirrup]

phenom

[livid flame]

6800xt beats the shit out of a 3060… just saying, ya paying the Nvidia premium to be shitter

[pure garnet]

no im paying for an upscaler that is functional

[wraith steeple]

[pure garnet]

fsr2/3 are a second class experience there's no denying that

[livid flame]

I still have a 9950

[merry stirrup]

https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/phenom-ii-x4-910.c674
apparently one of these things

i dont have my 1090T anymore 😔

[edgy laurel]

ya, motherboard wall art. or just old PC part wall art. could even get fancy

[livid flame]

Buying based on upscaler

[livid flame]

Mine is in my rig in the shed

[pure garnet]

you mean buying based off a feature i use? yeah i would assume most people do

a 6800 xt isn't enough for native 4k anyway

[merry stirrup]

oh i try not to power on older than am4 hardware

[livid flame]

3060 for 4k

[edgy laurel]

meanwhile, jerry

[pure garnet]

yeah jerry is living fine

[edgy laurel]

jerry lives his life in DLSS Performance

[pure garnet]

i mean im not buying any card rn but i'll just see what pop ups cheap locally for a backup card

it won't be a radeon though

[livid flame]

My 9950 is literally sitting in a cupboard and my 1090t is getting corroded in the shed. Good times

[merry stirrup]

fire

i just keep my computers in my bed with me

[willow ruin]

Holy crap I didn't know storage prices were bad right now

I'm out of the loop

[edgy laurel]

very

[willow ruin]

I knew memory!

[merry stirrup]

i know memory too

[pure garnet]

floppa should i lowball a new seller on ebay

[merry stirrup]

100%

[pure garnet]

it's for a sealed apex

[merry stirrup]

what apex?

[pure garnet]

x870e

[merry stirrup]

are you sure its even real then lol

[pure garnet]

box looks right, 10 items sold before

[merry stirrup]

hm okie

[pure garnet]

reviews mention other comp hw

gonna wait till the canada package arrives safely anyhow

[merry stirrup]

yeah hes probably a bencher thenand knows what its realistically worth

why apex tho

[pure garnet]

idk half bored of the daily system

[edgy laurel]

@wraith steeple

these are such a cool idea

[pure garnet]

that msi cooler was on every gpu

[edgy laurel]

my 1070. such a good cooler. real quiet

[willow ruin]

My SN850X 4TB is $550 right now, I paid $229.99 😮
Was just looking to grab another 1TB, but I think I'll wait.

[frank cypress]

oh damn thats fast

[edgy laurel]

Crucial P510

speaking of, that deal might be over for the 2TB @pure garnet

[pure garnet]

nah amazon says feb 8th

[edgy laurel]

actually, amazon doesn't seem to indicate its gone.

[pure garnet]

yeah they'll still lock you in at that price

@merry stirrup hear me out

[merry stirrup]

chips arent priced good either

[edgy laurel]

SSD manufacturers blatenly preying on the clueless with lines like this.

PCIe 5.0 Performance: Delivers up to 11,000MB/s read and 9,500MB/s write speeds for quicker game load times, bootups, and smooth multitasking

[pure garnet]

oh wait that's the shitty tr gen too

im not dailying zen 2

[merry stirrup]

lol

[wraith steeple]

I wish we still had our old rigs and whenever one of the parts met their maker, we would do this

and keep those parts as mementos

[pure garnet]

did any of the asus boards on amd get nitropath

or is that next gen

[merry stirrup]

i dont know i would think apex has it but fuck you idk

yes x870 has nitropath

[pure garnet]

apex doesn't need it

[merry stirrup]

well no

[pure garnet]

hero pricing is tmepting

[merry stirrup]

hero looks really good

[topaz veldt]

hero is solid but x870e sucks

[pure garnet]

the board or the chipset

[wraith steeple]

latter

[low sorrel]

I'm camping your house and becoming a package thief

[low sorrel]

Actually dlss ultra performance with preset L

[merry stirrup]

LOL

[low sorrel]

I find it looks better then performance with preset K

[merry stirrup]

might be time for a 3080 or something bro

[low sorrel]

No

[hoary hatch]

Weird PCIe lane allocations?

[merry stirrup]

go take ennuis 4070 that is a great idea

[low sorrel]

@frank cypress is kyoko sending it via UPS or FedEx?

[pure garnet]

ups

[low sorrel]

Brb on the lookout for a black ups truck

[pure garnet]

i actually shipped it private courier

i’m driving to ennui’s house right now

keep an eye out for my company car

[merry stirrup]

holy shit

[low sorrel]

3080s are 500+ dollars hete

[merry stirrup]

whats that in real money? the same price they have been

[low sorrel]

CAD

[merry stirrup]

thats like 300 us

[low sorrel]

300 and change

[pure garnet]

it's like 350-400

[merry stirrup]

350 us is a totally valid price for a 3080 or something

[pure garnet]

damn im good

[merry stirrup]

theyre like 329 here youre overpaying by 50 dollas

[low sorrel]

Ooo just listed

[merry stirrup]

yeah on ebay rn if you want you can pay 470 for the same card

[low sorrel]

I want 12gb icl

[merry stirrup]

4070 then but thats way more money

[low sorrel]

Im unironically bumping into my vram cap on my 3060

[pure garnet]

he just missed out

with shipping i sold my card for 300

[merry stirrup]

650 cad for a 4070

[merry stirrup]

damn

[pure garnet]

now i have a lame 6700 xt in my bench system

[low sorrel]

500 seems like a fair offer for these

[merry stirrup]

do so

[merry stirrup]

ill take that too

[low sorrel]

Actually 469

[pure garnet]

$500 for the picking up a screwdriver twice today fee

[merry stirrup]

augh

[low sorrel]

How much

[merry stirrup]

bro what

700$ cause thats a terrible upgrade for you

[pure garnet]

brother it performs the same as your current card tf you mean how much

[hoary hatch]

spotted

[low sorrel]

Marginally faster

[merry stirrup]

and you lose dlss

the feature that is literally keeping you alive

[low sorrel]

Fair point don't want it

[pure garnet]

i have a moral obligation to refuse to sell it to you

[merry stirrup]

im just gonna use it for something regarded if i get that like idk benchmarks

[merry stirrup]

see

[low sorrel]

I honestly want a new GPU to stop my fans running at 100% rpm

[pure garnet]

if you actually want it floppa just make me an offer idk

i can swap in the a750 sobbing emoji

[merry stirrup]

ill consider i dont think i really want that

[proven saddle]

was it in a lego game or was it in gta?

[merry stirrup]

id rather the a750 wont lie LOL

[pure garnet]

oh fr?

it's a le sitting unused in the box

[merry stirrup]

ill let you know next week ish maybe?

ill offer on one of them

[pure garnet]

fine with me

[low sorrel]

Guys do I drive 250km onto the highway that is incredibly dangerous during winter time as a new driver to pick up a 4070 for 450 cad

[pure garnet]

good way to learn so yeah

[merry stirrup]

is that worth it in gas over paying 500 cad for a 4070

[pure garnet]

highways aren't dangerous if you have 2 eyes

[arctic bronze]

be sure to drive 20 over the speed limit

[pure garnet]

250km is like 6 miles or whatever

[merry stirrup]

oh true

[pure garnet]

metric isn't real

[low sorrel]

Oh it's more because of the ice and snow

[arctic bronze]

if only XD

[low sorrel]

Because your driving through the mountains

[merry stirrup]

is an a750 over or under quadro 4000

(2070ish)

[pure garnet]

over slightly

[merry stirrup]

hm okay im down

[low sorrel]

Ok but the scenery

[pure garnet]

it's a 5700xt/6600xt competitor

[merry stirrup]

yeah ill let you know id low ball you for one of these

[merry stirrup]

LOL

[pure garnet]

me seeing the $60 offer in my inbox

[merry stirrup]

not that low DAMN

[arctic bronze]

10 bucks

[merry stirrup]

i got a smooth 97 spendable dollars rn

[low sorrel]

Is this man on crack cocaine

[merry stirrup]

hmu

[arctic bronze]

is it organic crack cocaine with no growth hormones and is gluten free?

[merry stirrup]

but realistically i can sell my 6650xt (cause i hate it) and put my mom back on the quadro for the a750

and probably walk away with some money in the process

[arctic bronze]

why hate 6650xt?

[merry stirrup]

advanced micro devices

[pure garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/fsr-amd-fsr2-radeon-upscaling-gif-14361789650951144310

[turbid locust]

I might buy a 5070 idk

[merry stirrup]

yeah basically that+arc cool

[pure garnet]

i think piping your frames through waifu2x would have better motion clarity than fsr

[turbid locust]

Doesnt lossless have its own upscaling

[arctic bronze]

yes

[turbid locust]

and it’s like.. competitive with FSR lol

[merry stirrup]

lossless scaling just seems like such an L

[turbid locust]

I just don’t get the point of it because like

it’s just worse than native implementations