tech-chat-2

[merry stirrup]

yeah the guy was a dickhead

[turbid locust]

(This gpu was covered in cigarette smoke and tar and I literally had to scrub it clean with soap)

[brave panther]

def mined on

[merry stirrup]

but in summary. there is people who won’t even take a photo to make money

[lucid gate]

This is actually a great sales strategy if you know the buyer is serious. Someone did that to me on a 3080 ti for about $250 USD and I went for it.

[devout ridge]

"no low balls, i know what i have" type beat

[lucid gate]

It works fine

[merry stirrup]

no it’s not when the person buying already explained that they’re young and their mom is taking them and that you’re 2 hours away

[devout ridge]

it takes max 20 minutes to record a video of the GPU working, likely far less

[merry stirrup]

there was 2 other 1080s on fbm near me but they just wouldn’t respond so i basically was forced to go with that one

literally the guy was just an asshole. he didn’t want to take out whatever card he upgraded to for 5 minutes

to make 200$

[frank cypress]

lmao that' scrazy

[merry stirrup]

the card was fine in the end but the guy was not a cool seller

he got 1 star on communication

[frank cypress]

i regularly go out of my way to make sure to send proof of the card working before i try to sell shit even if they don't ask for it

[pallid marsh]

Ask him to discord call and show it in person

[merry stirrup]

i legit would’ve been fine with a photo from 2017 of the card

i asked for any proof that it worked and he refused full stop

[turbid locust]

Bro I love when streamers are like “I’m not even gonna TRY to pronounce that name” and it’s just some shit like Michael

[brave panther]

ram prices are so damn high due to these scammers btw

[merry stirrup]

yeah lots of the oc community is partaking unfortunately

a lot of the cheaper 6000 c30 kits yknow the normie kits are actually 4800 kits with programmed XMP’s

[frank cypress]

lmao?

[merry stirrup]

and unfortunately a lot of the people in the oc community have a very lax consideration of stable

so very well someone has an unstable pre programmed xmp on a generic hynix kit

they are hynix dimms and they are otherwise fine but yeah manually programmed xmp

[brave panther]

btw this is what we pay for ram lol

[frank cypress]

tbf ecc ddr5 has always been expensive

[devout ridge]

in bulk though i presume?

[frank cypress]

wait

i just saw the price

[merry stirrup]

85 eur a module bro that’s not expensive lol

[frank cypress]

that's cheap af

[turbid locust]

I need to figure out how to do this on Z890

[frank cypress]

yeah, no that's super cheap, even before the shortage

[brave panther]

aggregate yes, quite a bit of computers and laptops

[frank cypress]

iirc?

[merry stirrup]

idk. but why would you want to lol

[frank cypress]

cause i remember looking at the price of ecc ddr5 and it was expensive af before the shortage too

[turbid locust]

Program my two jedec kits

[brave panther]

total for hp g2 workstation with i7, 64gb of ram, 1tb ssd and rtx 2000 ada is 1880 euros

[merry stirrup]

and resell? 🧌

[turbid locust]

no just for convenience

[merry stirrup]

my 7000 sticks have a reprogrammed xmp lol

[turbid locust]

Imagine ram but it has XMPs for every platform sweet spot lmao

That’s my goal

[merry stirrup]

life if ram was good

[turbid locust]

Like I would program my H26A greenies with a 6000, 8000, and probably 8600 profile

[frank cypress]

mac how much did you pay for the 6000cl26 godbins again?

[turbid locust]

$189 which I thought was expensive at the time and felt bad for spending that much on ram LMAO

[frank cypress]

LMAO

[merry stirrup]

if only he knew

[frank cypress]

yeah i was just thinking about it, that's probably way cheaper than what even shit kits are going for now

[turbid locust]

Yeah I don’t think 32GB ram kits exist under $250 now

[merry stirrup]

to be fair a base hynix kit was 90$ at the time

[merry stirrup]

not new nah

[frank cypress]

if it makes you feel any better, in late 2024, i sold a kit of 4x16gb 5600cl36 for $150 cad

https://tenor.com/view/eye-otter-rubbing-eyes-tired-irritated-gif-16638234

[turbid locust]

I paid $65 for my H16A greenies

[merry stirrup]

i STOLE my hynix greenies

[frank cypress]

from work?

[merry stirrup]

yeah

(i gave them back tho fr lol)

[turbid locust]

I sold a kit of Samsung ic 6000 cl36 32GB for like $60 earlier last year

[merry stirrup]

just took them for like 3 months

shoulda kept it for clocking

[frank cypress]

ouchhhhhh

i don't think anyone expected the shortage

[turbid locust]

homie needed it for his main rig

[frank cypress]

man i wish i kept that kit, cause that shit probably 4x from then to today

[frank cypress]

oh

homie sales are real

[turbid locust]

And it had sat basically new in the packaging for 2 years prior

It was the flare x5 kit that came with the 7700x bundle

[frank cypress]

oh word? that makes sense now

[turbid locust]

It was “unstable” on my machine but in hindsight I think it was just early AM5 MCR issues lol

[merry stirrup]

real

[odd sable]

I also did, but to a friend so I'm not salty about it

[pallid marsh]

Also that case has no front intake fans or side. Yet has one built into the basement?

[topaz veldt]

I sold a number of my 6000 CL30 32GB kits and such for normal-for-the-time pricing 🙁

[wraith steeple]

[south shuttle]

i bought a low mhz, high cl 2x32gb g.skill kit that turned out to be hynix for 120

but one arrived dead

so i returned them, now that one stick would sell for double or more than that

[turbid locust]

tragic

[wraith steeple]

[wraith steeple]

[edgy laurel]

[wraith steeple]

[warm urchin]

My flare x5 outright died on me

[gentle loom]

pmo

[turbid locust]

“pmo” is one of those things that just immediately tells me the person has never paid taxes in their life

funnily enough same with the 🥀 emoji

[edgy laurel]

for me its 💀

[wise bear]

seriously though

[pure garnet]

scratching out the bookmarks bar is wild work

[wise bear]

like just spell out the fucking words you lazy shits

[turbid locust]

I use 💀 ironically

I be saying shit like

[edgy laurel]

Ctrl-Shift-B was too hard

[turbid locust]

cheeseburgers 💀💀💀

[pure garnet]

ts unc pmo 🥀

[turbid locust]

the one where they mixed genuinely and lowkey pisses me off

like atp you’re not even fucking trying you’re just mashing words together

[pure garnet]

i had someone drop a lowkeniuely on me the other day and i had 0 clue wtf they said

[turbid locust]

first person I hear say that shit irl I’m snapping my own neck infront of them

[edgy laurel]

i just discovered this and I hate it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algospeak

[karmic folio]

cheeseburgers 💀💀💀

[edgy laurel]

i get aggressively angry whenever you say ahh . You can type ass! its ok!

[pure garnet]

didn’t the fbi have a document that actually mentioned people trying to use “in minecraft” to hide criminal activity

[fringe vigil]

hi

[turbid locust]

also another one I do as a joke

goofy ahh trampoline 💀💀💀

[edgy laurel]

for months i just wondered wtf people were saying

[fringe vigil]

happy gilmore

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/tv-simpsons-cloud-fist-grandpa-gif-12082744756246344299

[steel stream]

it's kinda funny seeing all this censoring happen in real time, we are losing the effectiveness and meaning of our words

<@&750150305383186585>

[pure garnet]

seeing the ping after the removal is funny

looks like u pinged mods over zoomer speak

[devout ridge]

i always reply for the ping, that way people can see a message was deleted

[steel stream]

effort

[devout ridge]

it's two button presses mate

[hoary hatch]

It's Tim!

[oak vector]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-home-ride-roomba-vacuum-cleaner-gif-22261733

[compact tree]

https://tenor.com/view/knife-roomba-gif-10891787

[slim pebble]

@shell void I borrowed one of your quotes, someone on another discord set -25 CO and has stability issues. 😆.
Zero proper testing of course, but it must be a weird Windows issue right?

[shell void]

xD

it's definitely windows' fault, and not their 150mv undervolt

that they didnt test

[plucky finch]

dude, my room was so cold that with a heater next to me my 14900k and 5070 weren’t going past 50c

This is the worse winter ever

[edgy laurel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/its-all-downhill-from-here-danny-devito

[odd sable]

get a 5090, itll get hotter real quick

[slim pebble]

Overclocking weather!

[pallid marsh]

Time to bully Momo the 12gb $550 gpu owner

[edgy laurel]

I think we're past that. It was cool when it was 35f. When its 2f fuck that

[plucky finch]

Why you wanna bully me

I bought it for $450 on sale from microcenter I think and it’s been doing fine for me :)

[pallid marsh]

Oh that's a perfectly reasonable and good price

$550 msrp was just stinky

[frank zealot]

Not as bad as nearly 400 for an 8gb card

[pallid marsh]

5050 5060 or 5060ti?

[rare prawn]

I don't get my dad he want his old backup for landline phone we have Verizon fios to work but don't care at all about computer or internet stay up at all in power outages and say most people can't afford it it like he thinks everyone would just read a book

[edgy laurel]

thanks for the monthly update on what your dad thinks is wrong with everyone. we almost forgot.

[rare prawn]

He fully believes that any law to make that a law is crazy

[wise bear]

idk why you keep talking about your dad

like we aren't your therapist

[fickle narwhal]

Math

[hoary hatch]

No

[gentle loom]

hi just like to ask what size thermal pads are RX 6750xt (seeing 71C in memory junction idle) I have 2mm Arctic TP-3 Pads but unsure if I can use them for my GPU.

[devout ridge]

@topaz veldt do you know if you can freely swap drives in netapp caddies, or do you need to get new caddies?

the reason i ask is they do have an interpolator

[topaz veldt]

Why would you need a new caddy? I don't use interposers

[devout ridge]

i didn't know if they were vendor locked

the JBOD i have came with 4 600Gb drives, and 20 1.2tb drives, so i was looking at replacing those 4 600gb drives with 1.2tb ones

just curious if i could buy just the drives and swap em out, or if i had to get ones with the interposers

NETAPP DS2246 for reference, i believe you mentioned having something quite similar

[brave panther]

if you use it as jbod on a 3rd party head server then it doesent matter at all

on ontap i believe they are locked

[devout ridge]

just the answer i was looking for, thank you

[brave panther]

just mixing sas and sata is not reccomended

[devout ridge]

i had to double check the ebay listing, it was advertised as containing 24 600GB drives, but actually came with 4 600gb drives, and 20 1.2TB drives

one hell of a deal imo

[brave panther]

2.5 inch drives?

[devout ridge]

160usd for 24 bay JBOD and 26.4tb of HDDs

[devout ridge]

Yeah

2.5in SAS drives

[brave panther]

yea those are undesirable for homelabbers as most want to run 3.5 inch drives

[devout ridge]

True, but also worth more than i paid given the number of them

they're like 18usd per drive on ebay, and the jbod alone is worth 160usd, so i'd say i got a pretty good bargain

[formal island]

https://youtu.be/kVptB6HzNDQ

Where do I get this robot lol

[devout ridge]

ultra realistic in images, the moment you see a video of it, you immediately know it's fake

[brave panther]

lol i was given 4x 1.2tb drives for free

[low sorrel]

@topaz veldt 67

[brave panther]

uncanny valley moment

[edgy laurel]

CES 2026 but that looks straight out of some 15y/o disney world theme park attraction

"ultra realistic" my ass

[brave panther]

robot i want:

[edgy laurel]

do all the cleaning? sign me up!

[brave panther]

more advanced roomba

[brave panther]

they could also make robotic dog do the cleaning

[low sorrel]

Hey hey hey don't disrespect Disney world theme park attractions

[brave panther]

as long as it traverses staircases and can open doors

[edgy laurel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/disneyworld-animatronic-1

[low sorrel]

I feel like in the future it's not going to be one general purpose robot for cleaning but multiple robots

[brave panther]

https://tenor.com/view/nanomachines-son-metal-gear-senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-gif-20057254

[frank cypress]

depends on your model

also where's it's going

one gpu can potentially have a bunch of different sizes

[topaz veldt]

Nice!

[topaz veldt]

I am level 75, all quests done, all trials were done, expedition done... I am kinda like topped out for the time being

[brave panther]

but do you have 5 mil in the bank?

[topaz veldt]

Yes

i have like 4.7M in coins and like 2.5M in inventory

[topaz veldt]

https://x.com/SperanzaIntel/status/2015103803662405648?s=20

Speranza Intel (@SperanzaIntel)

Arc Raiders' music goes HARD!

📽️carolinapicker

X · Jan 24, 2026, 4:46 PM

[edgy laurel]

i've been on a synth kick recently so this track is a fav https://youtu.be/5C1wZlZKGHM?list=RD5C1wZlZKGHM

[random flame]

Well then.
https://wccftech.com/intel-showcases-glass-core-substrates-with-emib-advanced-packaging/

Haven't seen anyone here mention it yet (either that or that convo/post must've been buried if otherwise), sooo...

[edgy laurel]

I don't know what it means and also fuck AI development

[fringe vigil]

[proven saddle]

Glados

[random flame]

Basically, it's the glass substrates for a newer packaging method that Intel started development on (before anyone else) is still on track to becoming a real thing, despite all the rumors after some key employees for that project left Intel.

[shell void]

tldr intel already has the best chiplet packaging, and is still continuing to improve

[topaz veldt]

I wish you would get the game

[fervent chasm]

They should sell it with Arc GPUs as a promo

[hoary hatch]

It's also expensive

Oh glass carrier wafers

I am so glad I don't have to deal with those

[sullen otter]

I hate that the average 5070 costs 700 bucks new here in Norway

[hoary hatch]

The time to buy was in December

[sullen otter]

Time to buy was 2 weeks ago when it was on sale for 500

700 has been the price since it became available here

[proven cairn]

Ok

[oak vector]

67

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/life-like-this-sure-is-sweet-drewski-jack-harlow-luxury-luxurious-gif-23979068

[proven saddle]

6 8 7

[steel stream]

found out there is a play by me that offers a go karting league with karts that go 50 mph

[oak vector]

Wrong
7 8 9

[oak vector]

Hell yeah

[proven saddle]

6 ate 7

[oak vector]

no

[steel stream]

trying to get some buddies together for it

[proven saddle]

Im terminal ill with brain rot

[proven saddle]

Do 4 to play gta online trough

I see omni man

And a job

Seasalt

[oak vector]

oh fr id take that up in a heartbeat lmao
All my friends kinda anti social tho ngl, so like

[steel stream]

too expensive or too busy is what they are saying smh

[oak vector]

Rest in peace

[oak vector]

yeah see I don’t even get offered to do shit with my friends irl
They just do it without me, then wonder why I don’t like hanging out with them at events or break or whatever

[proven saddle]

Are you sure seasalt

Im trans

[steel stream]

yeah idk who wouldn't want to do this it's so sad

[proven saddle]

Former

Liker

[oak vector]

🤷‍♂️ their loss ngl

[steel stream]

yuh

[turbid locust]

it goes it goes it goes it goes it goes

[proven saddle]

You happy for season 4?

[turbid locust]

fuck u talking abt

[proven saddle]

Invincible

[turbid locust]

I haven’t watched season 2

[proven saddle]

Uff I stopped mid season 2

No money for prime

[shell void]

download it twin season 3 is good

[analog plover]

Is this much pump out normal for PTM 7950? Finding info about this stuff is hard lol.

[edgy laurel]

what problem are you trying to solve

because this sounds like someone worrying about "bottlenecks" without knowing what it even means

[analog plover]

The problem I’m currently solving isn’t exactly related to my question. This just seems like excessive pump out, especially in the short term. This application is only a few months old.

I was just test fitting a larger cooler and noticed the wild pump out

[edgy laurel]

So you don't actually have a problem and attributing what may just be normal physics of when you squish something between two pieces of metal as this term "pump out" you heard somewhere

were you actually noticing performance degradation?

I think you've created a problem in your head and you should just use the PC 👍

[analog plover]

Why are you working away from what I asked? If you dont have an answer thats okay.

No need to be condescending and rude.

[devout ridge]

any amount of pump out is normal

[edgy laurel]

Because your question doesn't have some quantifiable answer. Its not a question you need to even be asking. It appears you had adequate coverage and haven't mentioned anything about performance issues. Pump out is a very specific phenomenon that leads to actually noticing a problem. TIM is going to squish out the sides normally and this isn't the end of the world.

[devout ridge]

the more the better really

the smaller the gap between the IHS and the cold plate, the better, which means less paste/PTM inbetween

[analog plover]

I’ve personally never seen that much pump out with any paste and I’m somewhat new to PTM 7950.

[analog plover]

Yah okay thanks

[devout ridge]

people generally put on less volume of compound with traditional paste as compared to PTM

[analog plover]

The answer is actually quite simple

[analog plover]

Makes sense

[devout ridge]

you start out with more compound (like with PTM), more compound gets pushed out

[gentle loom]

this model

[edgy laurel]

No, because you're misunderstanding the difference between excess being squished out and "pump out". Two very specific things.

[analog plover]

Okay yah I understand. PC building is my job I was just curious because I’m not very familiar with PTM7950. Your information was very helpful.

[devout ridge]

Guilty was trying to get to the underlying problem, i'm lazy and just gave you the straight forward answer, though in all honesty there isn't a definitively better method

[analog plover]

Well someone else helped me with the info I gave, I appreciate your time. I take it your used to helping idiots.

[devout ridge]

We do get a fair few of those here

Though for whatever reason, more often in TC1

[edgy laurel]

I just hate to see people go down XY question rabbit holes.

Which this seems to have.

[devout ridge]

True, the very underlying problem remains unaddressed

[analog plover]

Yeah I deal with idiots too lol I work in a PC shop. I’m glad I got a straight up answer, and I’m glad theres someone looking for the root. Both are good approaches for a specific person asking the question.

[devout ridge]

If you aren't seeing a problem with something, then there likely isn't a problem with something

[analog plover]

I wholeheartedly agree and say the same thing

[devout ridge]

There is a plethora of details you can stress about, don't add to it

[edgy laurel]

It wasn't about that, it was about using a term wrong. Attributing to something you see and labeling it incorrectly thus creating worry.

[analog plover]

As I said I only pulled off the cooler to test fit a larger cooler, CPU runs toasty.

[devout ridge]

define "toasty"

[analog plover]

What term did I use wrong?

[devout ridge]

"pump out"

[analog plover]

90C. I consider anything under 85C perfectly fine.

[analog plover]

How did I use it wrong? Not saying your wrong just genuinely wondering.

[analog plover]

Also in cinebench all core it throttles quite heavily. I dont expect like sub 80C but I want to improve it at least a little.

[edgy laurel]

I explained this above. "pump out" is a very specific process that occurs over many heat cycles and results in hotspots due to lack of material. It looked fine so the only logical conclusion was just normal effects of compression of two flat surfaces. You're going to see the latter all the time, doesn't necessarily mean you're suffering from pump out which PTM7950 is notoriously resilient to. If you were actually having thermal problems that developed over time, then we might be having a different conversation.

[analog plover]

Okay thanks

[odd sable]

what CPU is it?

[analog plover]

Ryzen 9 7950X. Never gonna run cold but reaching 90C in games is avoidable.

[edgy laurel]

little curve optimizer will fix that right up

[odd sable]

if its not at 95C, its still got more to give

[analog plover]

I’ve undervolted it as far as it will go, it helped quite a bit but still not perfect

[analog plover]

Thats what I did

[odd sable]

this is true for all ryzen 7000 non-x3d parts

[analog plover]

It reaches 95C in cinebench all core and throttles to 5.3ghz lol.

But thats not a very realistic scenario ofc

[odd sable]

thats not throttling...

base clock is 4.5, thats still boosting pretty damn good

[analog plover]

Yeah it is, I’ve seen people with custom loops hold the full 5.7 all core. I dont expect to get those numbers but I can still get better.

[edgy laurel]

I couldn't get my old 7900x to hit 95c as much as I tried. Back when I had it under an AK620 + -40 all core.

[shell void]

-40 is bananas

[analog plover]

I have an nh-d12L, bumping to a NH-D15s. Actually running the same undervolt lol.

[odd sable]

no, its not, thermal throttling is a safety feature that pulls CPUs below base clock to keep themselves from dying from overheating, just trying to keep the CPU alive (and system on)

[analog plover]

It reaches 90C in BF6, other than that most games keep it around 80C

[odd sable]

5.3GHz is standard all-core boost for a 7950x

[brisk jolt]

-40 💀

[analog plover]

Not really looking for better clocks there since a workload like that is unrealistic

I just want it to not hit 90C in games and run quieter👍

[odd sable]

just put your computer in another room, ez

[young void]

Can always set a thermal limit or reduce watts ofc ❤️

[analog plover]

Ur funny

[odd sable]

i actually do that

[analog plover]

Or just get a bigger cooler

[odd sable]

my computers are in another room

[analog plover]

I snagged an NH-D15S with 2 fans for it for $40. Mounting hardware is $10. No reason not to do it lol.

[odd sable]

and with ryzen 7000, if its not at 95C, its not going hard enough

[edgy laurel]

it worked. never had a problem with it while I owned it.

wasn't temp limited, thats for sure

[analog plover]

Well I disagree. Not saying your wrong, I just simply dont feel the same.

[odd sable]

my 7950x had no problems hitting 95C

[young void]

Keks

[odd sable]

i say had simply because 9950x3d now

still got the CPU

[edgy laurel]

i sold it to someone on hwswap

[odd sable]

i want a 9950x3d2.....

[analog plover]

I’m doing other things to my PC to quiet it down besides this, gonna have some fun with it

[young void]

Many options

[devout ridge]

rogue, guess what? I got nearly 10tb of free storage

JBOD i got advertised 24x 600GB drives, i got 4x 600Gb and 20x 1.2TB drives

[odd sable]

10tb?

those smell like 10k sas drive sizes

[analog plover]

The older noctua fans like the NF-P12 are quite noisy and I have 3 in my rig. I’m going to replace them with 2 140mm g2 fans.

[odd sable]

oh, 10tb for free, not 10tb of free space

[steel stream]

damn I think they got rid of the article explaining ryzen 7000 temperatures

[devout ridge]

mayhaps

[analog plover]

Also gonna put PTM 7950 on my GPU to help hotspot temps so it’ll quiet down lol

[odd sable]

im still going to leave this here

[edgy laurel]

i dunno if it was power or current limited maybe, but that score was very good for 7900x at the time. hwbot leaderboards onlly had water / xoc people above me (back in 2023)

[devout ridge]

did you have to flex so hard?

[steel stream]

i think it's meant for 5.3 all core

5.7 is single core boost

[odd sable]

note: ZFS, it lies about size when some gets used, total pool size is actually over 100TB

[analog plover]

It’ll do more if given the option. Not looking for more there tho, mostly just for better temps in regular use.

[young void]

Just gotta play with bios, doesnt take to long to find your personal sweet spot

[steel stream]

the chip is designed to run at 95

[analog plover]

Doesn’t mean I want it to.

Also trying to help noise

[odd sable]

17T is used, total pool size is 112TiB

[odd sable]

oh, did i mention thats all NVMe?

[turbid locust]

Ryzen is quite simple to make stfu

[analog plover]

For the most part

[turbid locust]

1. Actual decent cooler.
2. Proper PBO tune.

[devout ridge]

WHAT?

[edgy laurel]

Big fans spinning slowly gang

[analog plover]

I have a proper PBO tune, just getting a bigger cooler.

[odd sable]

its all NVMe

[turbid locust]

What cpu

[analog plover]

7950X

[steel stream]

i was gonna say 200mm fans go brr but that wouldn't make much sense

[arctic bronze]

1

[edgy laurel]

yeah I don't know if thats the idea we want to convey

[odd sable]

and this is the server

[turbid locust]

could probably just power limit it to some degree and find the most efficient PPT in combination with a CO offset

[analog plover]

Your not going to tell me anything I dont know here my man. I’m well aware how CPUs are designed to operate. I just want some better temps.

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-manray-mermaid-man-barnacle-boy-gif-16181504

[analog plover]

I have an NH-D12L right now, all I need for my NH-D15S is a $10 mounting kit lol.

[pure garnet]

if you know how they’re designed to operate than why are you worried about temps

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/this-fucking-guy-mike-mclusky-mayor-of-kingstown-unbelievable-i-can't-believe-this-guy-gif-7912195138307396524

[odd sable]

can't you use the AM5 mount from the NH-D12L if you have any mount for the D15S?

[analog plover]

I’m getting a bigger cooler to quiet it down too

[topaz veldt]

you can set a quota higher than the pool capacity to fudge the #

[analog plover]

Nope. Different mounting pitch.

[turbid locust]

tells him how to get better temps
“You’re not gonna tell me anything I just want better temps”

k.

[odd sable]

good to know, im not doing that though

ive got 9 15.4TB drives in "z1"

[topaz veldt]

thats incredibly insane

[turbid locust]

we gon come an blow New Jersey up

[brisk jolt]

i basically killed the sound of this fella but its quieter now

[analog plover]

Dude I am literally actively doing what you said. I have a PBO tune and I’m getting a better cooler. I wasn’t trying to be rude, multiple people have just already been saying the same thing.

[crude quail]

is anyone able to help with this?

my ssd keeps hiding itself after my pc wakes up from sleep mode and it's just, weird

[odd sable]

i know you hate the config, its configured such that a single record (128KB) is spread across all 9 drives perfectly

[arctic bronze]

make it super super loud

[turbid locust]

“Having” a PBO tune doesn’t mean it’s done correctly lmfao. #1 way you’re gonna reduce temps is by literally lowering power consumption.

[edgy laurel]

define "hiding". How are you "finding" it?

[odd sable]

and its not z1, its actually draid, so all of them are full width, 128k + 16k parity

[brisk jolt]

my 80he is already fucking loud

[analog plover]

I’m just doing what I can to quiet my PC down, and hopefully get my CPU under 90C in times where it can be much cooler.

[oak vector]

yippee

[brisk jolt]

like, loud to the point u can hear it outside the room

[crude quail]

after it wakes up from sleep mode, it literally disappears, it's a sn850x 4tb on a msi mag b650 tomahawk wifi

[odd sable]

notable that the drives themselves have 16k pages, so this is aligned to that

[crude quail]

this keeps hiding itself

[turbid locust]

Also are you hitting 90C in actual use or just artificial all core benchmarks lmao

[analog plover]

I have the biggest undervolt it can run stable

[analog plover]

Actual use. No need to be condescending here.

[topaz veldt]

what is the ashift

[edgy laurel]

Ok thats half of my questions. Does Device Manager see it? What about Disk Management?

[turbid locust]

this is half the equation btw

[odd sable]

whatever it needs to be for 16k pages

14 i think

[topaz veldt]

that's... not how that works

[crude quail]

none of them do

my bios version is 2 updates behind but why would that constitute to an ssd just hiding itself

[odd sable]

yes, its set to 14

[analog plover]

Okay so whats your plan to keep a 7950X to like 120 watts or less?

[crude quail]

ik computers are weird but bleh

[turbid locust]

literally PBO

[odd sable]

ashift 14 means align to 16k boundaries, and use 16k min alloc size on the drives
im using 128k records across 8 drives plus a parity drive, for 16k per drive per record, aligned to and matching the physical page size on the drives

[topaz veldt]

it aligns but is not default

[turbid locust]

Test PPT limits at various levels and determine the best power to performance ratio

[analog plover]

I’ve tried all kinds of settings and I dont want my CPU to be under 5ghz lol

[odd sable]

yes, i know its not default, i set it to 14

[analog plover]

That in combination with a larger cooler and I’ll be gold👌

[turbid locust]

Like for example I was able to tune my 7700x to max out at 90W and match stock 140W out of box performance

[topaz veldt]

what does zpool list -v show for frag%

[crude quail]

@edgy laurel it just seems to hide itself after sleep mode, this is what i get for using an os with 30% of it coded by ai (w11)

[turbid locust]

you can tune Zen 4 and 5 to be crazy efficient

[odd sable]

1%

[analog plover]

I couldn’t find any power limit options on my bios, believe me I looked everywhere

[turbid locust]

When you go to the PBO menu, choose “Advanced” or “Manual” instead of “Enabled” or “Motherboard”

Should open it up to let you manually set PPT, EDC, and whatever the other one was called lol

[analog plover]

I can change voltages and clocks, thats all

[edgy laurel]

Oh, its there. Either hard power limit or PPT in the PBO menu.

[turbid locust]

What board?

[analog plover]

Yeah theres no ppt

[odd sable]

this setup is tuned specifically for 128K records, but it does have some pitfalls, for example compression doesnt work well, because it can't write anything smaller than 128k to the drives

[analog plover]

Gigabyte B850M gaming x wifi 6e

[turbid locust]

should definitely have manual PBO limits but im unfamiliar with gigabytes AM5 bios

[odd sable]

because draid enforces full width, its 128k or nothing written to the drives, 8d+1p for 16k sectors being allocated, which means it can't compress 128k down to 64k and write 4d+1p instead like z1 can

[topaz veldt]

Why haven't you used it lol

[turbid locust]

if you can send some pics we can maybe help find it

[analog plover]

I can look again but the bigger cooler is coming either way

[odd sable]

it does, just not much deleting

[analog plover]

Still getting my PC back together after the test fit lol

[turbid locust]

Overkill cooler is always good

I ran a 360mm AIO on my 7700x for a long time even after tuning it to 90W

[topaz veldt]

Go spinners then IMHO

[odd sable]

side effect of this, draid rebuilds way way faster

[topaz veldt]

Will it has dedicated parity device so yeah

[odd sable]

not exactly dedicated parity

shit, not even dedicated hotspares

[topaz veldt]

Essentially

[odd sable]

draid is really cool

[topaz veldt]

It's not distributed parity

[analog plover]

NH-D12L -> NH-D15S

[odd sable]

yea, its distributed spare really

[topaz veldt]

It's raid 4 it's not that cool lol

[odd sable]

makes rebuild damn fast

[turbid locust]

hate to hate but Noctua is overpriced

[analog plover]

Size difference is suprising

[odd sable]

ive had it rebuild an HDD array at stupid speeds

[analog plover]

I respect your opinion

[topaz veldt]

Zfs only rebuilds 1s

[odd sable]

not much deleting != not much reading, and i do have a spinner array

[topaz veldt]

With that little use everything is fast

[turbid locust]

I’ve been on that “decent AIO with static fan and pump” train for awhile now

[topaz veldt]

L2arc

[odd sable]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i already have this, and this server is NVMe only, so, im keeping it

[analog plover]

I dont want to use an AIO for my main rig🤷

[turbid locust]

Can I ask why not?

[odd sable]

i didn't mean time to rebuild, i mean the total activity and rebuild rate

it was doing the rebuild at well above what a single disk could do

each of those disks would do ~200MB/s, it was rebuilding it at over 800MB/s iirc, with a single failed disk

[analog plover]

Water coolers last a long time, air coolers last forever. Also just set and forget.

[turbid locust]

I suppose that’s fair

I have to remember most people aren’t swapping hardware as much as I do lol

[analog plover]

PC building is my job, I want my main PC to not be a part of my job lol

As much as I love working on PCs, my main PC should be reliable.

[turbid locust]

That’s fair. That’s why my main rig is about to be swapped back to AM5 with a 9850X3D so I can stop touching it for awhile and play with the rest of my hardware separately

Same mentality with my 3D Printers. I eventually got tired of fucking with them constantly and folded and purchased a Bambu lol

[analog plover]

Nice

[odd sable]

reliable computer >>>>>>>> slightly faster computer

nothing was more infuriating than when my 7950x wasn't being reliable

im just trying to FUCKING DO THINGS, STOP CRASHING

[brisk eagle]

its cool and rebuilds fast
but it wastes so much space

[odd sable]

afaict, it was the mobo dropping pcie

[analog plover]

I haven’t had that experience with my 7950X, just high temps which I can fix.

[analog plover]

oof lol

[odd sable]

depends on how you have it configured, and what you are going for

[analog plover]

AM5 has so much pcie

[odd sable]

i did mention compression not working well being a pitfall of how i have my pool setup

[analog plover]

Like 28 lanes including chipset

[odd sable]

32*

i think

maybe im wrong, lemme count what my board does

[analog plover]

Maybe on X chipsets

My b850m has 28

My GPU, 2 nvmes and network card can all work with no bifurcation tho which is awesome

[odd sable]

16(main slot) +4(3rd slot) +4(m.2) +4(chipset)

yea, i think 28 is right

[turbid locust]

I thought this was sarcasm but nope it wasn’t 😅

[odd sable]

also, its really not that much

[turbid locust]

we used to have it so good lol

[odd sable]

i cant even run my NIC at full speed because its PCIe limited

[analog plover]

Wdym?

[turbid locust]

you used to be able to run like two full size GPUs at full bandwidth no worries

[odd sable]

that always required a PLX chip

and still you couldn't do full BW to both at the same time

[analog plover]

Not on consumer platforms. They would spit to X8.

[turbid locust]

ok ok let me rephrase

they killed HEDT and I’m sad

[odd sable]

TR?

[analog plover]

If you had a 9900K and 2 2080tis or something they would each have 8 lanes

[odd sable]

it still exists, to some extent

[turbid locust]

who tf is buying threadripper at a consumer level lol

[odd sable]

well, i've considered it

[analog plover]

Threadripper is thriving lol

[analog plover]

Me too

[edgy laurel]

where is Bubzy

[turbid locust]

Ok but you’re not an average consumer lol

[odd sable]

also, "you used to be able to run like two full size GPUs" period

you basically can't do that anymore regardless

[edgy laurel]

(unless you waterblock them)

[odd sable]

no, i mean because software

[analog plover]

Now you need dual power supplies or a 1200 watt unit if you have 5090s or something lol

[turbid locust]

I ran two on AM5 for folding that one time but both with nerfed bandwidth

[analog plover]

You can run dual GPUs in many apps

[odd sable]

show me a recent game that supports multiple GPUs

[turbid locust]

luckily PCIe Gen 4 x 8 isn’t that slow

[edgy laurel]

well, not for gaming of course

[analog plover]

Not games, but many apps can use them

[odd sable]

show me any game (besides Ashes of the Benchmark) that'll run "SLI" on multiple 50-series cards

[analog plover]

Your the only one who said games. I said apps.

[turbid locust]

think even the 4090 only loses a few % with this config?

[odd sable]

am game dev, am salty about lack of mGPU for games

[brisk eagle]

i think its maybe like 2%

[analog plover]

Yes thats true. Gamersnexus showed negligible losses at PCIe gen 3x16 on a 4090 lol.

[analog plover]

Literally margin of error

[brisk eagle]

yea

[turbid locust]

Right so I mean not that bad

[analog plover]

Not bad in the slightest

[turbid locust]

but yeah let me find that goofiness I was running for the LTT folding event that year lmao

[edgy laurel]

Its been a few months since I reposted Venturi's monster from back when it looked the coolest.

@topaz veldt he did the 2800

[turbid locust]

cursed

[edgy laurel]

finally moved away from FE for 5090

[topaz veldt]

Damnit

[odd sable]

but this is a pair of FE 5090s?

[analog plover]

Local ai?

Workstation?

[brisk eagle]

dell mainboard its blue

[odd sable]

i can put 2 2080tis and 2 W5700s in the same system

[edgy laurel]

too loud, he says

[odd sable]

gigabyte probably

[edgy laurel]

so they were replaced

[odd sable]

its probably this board https://www.gigabyte.com/Enterprise/Server-Motherboard/MZ73-LM2-rev-3x

[brisk eagle]

ltt folding event?

[edgy laurel]

medical radio imagery workstation + fun

[brisk eagle]

like the scientific folding?

that requires a ton of compute

[edgy laurel]

no it doesn't

anyone can participate

https://linustechtips.com/forum/37-foldinghome-boinc-and-coin-mining/

[turbid locust]

Yeah

[odd sable]

whens the next event?

[turbid locust]

You can fold on pretty much anything but if you wanna put big numbers up for the funny then yeah big compute usually required

[edgy laurel]

Feb 8th through the 14th. Sign ups here https://linustechtips.com/topic/1629997-i-love-wu-2026/

[turbid locust]

I think they usually do it in November?

oh nvm

[odd sable]

fuck, i wont be in Sweden yet

[brisk eagle]

is it cpu only or gpu

[turbid locust]

It’s mainly gpu

[brisk eagle]

yea

i want to get good gpu compute

[odd sable]

once i move ill put my armada of cards to work

[edgy laurel]

people run their CPU's. I mean, you're not goign to do much but you're doing something and thats the whole point

[turbid locust]

5nail should let all his GPUs go ham next folding event

[brisk eagle]

i have 24 cpu cores avaliable

but its cpu so slow

[odd sable]

how many 5090s does he have?

[brisk jolt]

supernova versus dying ants

[turbid locust]

too many lmao

like 4-5 iirc

[odd sable]

going with 5, thats 500TFLOP FP32 total

lemme add up what i have, see how it compares

[edgy laurel]

great FAQ and setup guide if you wanna join in. Software to run, configs, how to join the LTT team, etc.. https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328180-official-ltt-fh-foldinghome-faq-guide-team-223518/

[turbid locust]

@topaz veldt what’s the real count now

[brisk eagle]

is it gui only?

[turbid locust]

As funny as another 5090 would be I am not buying another one lmao

[brisk jolt]

ugh maybe i shouldve bought and deshrouded a ventus 5090

[turbid locust]

I think some folks run it via Linux CLI and see a marginal benefit in performance

[edgy laurel]

dont' think so. yeah CLI stuff is always an option

[turbid locust]

Ngl I want another 5070Ti. That card is so good in context.

[brisk eagle]

alright

[turbid locust]

but now the prices are nuked

[brisk jolt]

i have myself a prime before it went to shambles but 5090 ventus being a jet engine would be so funny

yeah it'll be in a ITX gasping for air running at max RPM

[turbid locust]

The microcenter closest to me still has a handful of 5070Ti’s around the $850 mark

[brisk jolt]

honestly could be worse

[edgy laurel]

and it probably will be

😅

[brisk jolt]

what he said

[cosmic gazelle]

this is literally the best deal i’ve ever seen

[turbid locust]

Yeah probably will. I’ve been wanting a decent backup gpu to also throw into a secondary machine but idk

[turbid locust]

Literally only because ram is the way it is rn

[cosmic gazelle]

what about a 5070 ti makes it 160% of the price of a 5070?

[turbid locust]

It’s not 160%

[cosmic gazelle]

at microcenter it is

[turbid locust]

are you high

[analog plover]

Its not even close to 160% lol

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/lying-wong-gif-7845920779899236663

[odd sable]

added it all up, ive got a usable ballpark of 450TFLOP FP32

[cosmic gazelle]

they have a zotac 5070 for $550 and a 5070 ti for 833

[turbid locust]

what

[cosmic gazelle]

151%

[odd sable]

spread out over, 32 GPU dies

[cosmic gazelle]

the tustin store has 25+ in stock at that price btw

[turbid locust]

~50% more expensive does not mean 150% lmfao

[cosmic gazelle]

brother $833 is 150% of $550 what are you talking about

[analog plover]

You likely read wrong and even then the tustin store is not representative of the whole market

[odd sable]

and its fucking out of stock

[analog plover]

Oh wait now that you’ve explained it makes sense

[edgy laurel]

+53% price increase. I dunno where 160% is coming from.

[odd sable]

it, does though?

[turbid locust]

I can’t tell if I’m trippin or he’s trippin

[odd sable]

50% moreis 150% of the base

[turbid locust]

Ok but who says it like that lmao

[edgy laurel]

no one

[cosmic gazelle]

people who are looking to compare price to performance?

[odd sable]

ive done it, but rarely, and usually when making comparisons both above and below the baseline

so, 100% is baseline, A is 104%, B is 95%

mostly because 4% better and 5% worse are not the same thing there

[turbid locust]

but anyways it’s about 30% faster with “133% more vram” and people are willing to pay 50% more for that

[cosmic gazelle]

why would they make a ti model that much faster

odd

[turbid locust]

ask Nvidia

[odd sable]

have you seen the 80ti models?

[cosmic gazelle]

is the 3080ti that much faster than a 3080?

[brisk jolt]

70ti is the same die as 5080

[cosmic gazelle]

ah

[odd sable]

3080ti is basically a 3090 with less vram

[brisk jolt]

the 5090 isnt even the full chip

[oak vector]

new games drive, not bad not bad 😄

[brisk jolt]

rtx 6000 is lol

[cosmic gazelle]

hmm didn’t realize that

meanwhile 3090 ti gets what, 5% better framerates vs 3090

[oak vector]

i got a second one of these drives and i do not know what to do with it

[cosmic gazelle]

easy. give it to me

[edgy laurel]

with every generation, the "distance" from the neighboring model isn't always going to be the same.

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah it’s just weird the way they structure it

[edgy laurel]

there was likely multiple meetings in board rooms with engineers and accountants that figured this out at some point

[odd sable]

something something, consult the hierarchy

[cosmic gazelle]

wasn’t there a thing with the 3070 ti or something where they got called out for like arbitrarily reducing performance

i can’t remember what it was

[odd sable]

and to get some older stuff on there

[edgy laurel]

keeping the old ones around are we?

[odd sable]

the new one doesnt have 30 series

[edgy laurel]

Tom's has really slacked on retesting the old stuff

[odd sable]

the 1440p ultra one does show the gap between the 1080/1080ti and 2080/2080ti too though

[edgy laurel]

they said they were going to do it a LONG time ago now since they moved to a new test bench

[odd sable]

also see 3060/3060ti

[edgy laurel]

IIRC the old test bench was a 12900k rig. it moved to a 9800x3D rig like a year ago which is when the graphs were updated and RTX3000/RX6000 was dropped

[cosmic gazelle]

ah. it was the 4080 12gb.

[edgy laurel]

noting that it would all need to be retested but here we are, still nothing

[odd sable]

you mean 4070ti

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah that whole debacle

[odd sable]

a card that very clearly does not perform similarly to the 4080

[cosmic gazelle]

ngl if AMD 1. can make a DLSS 3 competitive version of FSR in the next couple years and 2. releases a card that uses <150 watts and can match my 3080, i’ll probably sidegrade to heat up my room less lol

i’ve been getting bugged a bit by 400 watts getting churned into my room nonstop

[brisk jolt]

fsr 4 is equivalent to like 3

[cosmic gazelle]

oh that’s cool, I didn’t realize it had improved that much

[odd sable]

your PFP is a Swede, is it not cold enough?

[cosmic gazelle]

I live in Southern California

so no it is certainly not cold enough lol

[odd sable]

i feel that (also in SoCal)

[cosmic gazelle]

I vastly prefer AMD’s driver interface these days and the only Nvidia creature comforts I really like are the fps overlay and nvidia broadcast

but like I could do without them

freesync and gsync are basically the same thing now

[edgy laurel]

I simply cannot live without these two features. Locked in by Nvidia, there is (currently) no escape.

[turbid locust]

I’ve drank the DLSS koolaid

[edgy laurel]

and there is that

yeah i mean, nothing else compares

[turbid locust]

Gaming at 4K requires good upscaling and that’s just Nvidia rn

FSR 4 is fine but it’s paywalled behind 4 GPUs and only 1 of them is worth buying for 4K

And that 1 gpu is just a less efficient, worse raytracing 5070Ti lol

Tbf the 9070XT is still relatively available and about $150 cheaper than the 5070Ti rn so that justifies it a little bit. But for most of the lifecycle they were basically the same price.

Yeah I think that’s my current take rn. Unless you’re near a microcenter and can grab a $800 5070Ti, I think you grab a 9070XT if you need a gpu right now.

[odd sable]

or I grab a $600 9070xt

[turbid locust]

Local deal?

[odd sable]

From microcenter (when they had them...)

[turbid locust]

ah lol

[odd sable]

I think they are $650 now?

[turbid locust]

Again I’ve drank the kool aid but I would pay $100-150 for Nvidia feature set

[cosmic gazelle]

i’m not saying FSR 4 is preferable, but I use quality upscaling most of the time anyways so FSR 3 is what’s jarring to me

[odd sable]

Yup, $650 for a 9070 XT

[cosmic gazelle]

like it’s so much worse than any dlss

[turbid locust]

Yeah FSR 3 is quite bad

FSR 4 is comparable to DLSS 3

So it’s acceptable but still obviously worse than DLSS 4 or Transformer

[odd sable]

I personally wouldn't, but that's mostly because Linux

[turbid locust]

See even better for you then

Many people would be perfectly happy with a 9070XT

[odd sable]

I know I am

[turbid locust]

Anyone on 1440p high refresh rate is like the perfect user for a 9070XT

[cosmic gazelle]

dude i tried to say "to the (word meaning not wearing clothes) eye" and it censored me

[odd sable]

I use a 7900xtx for 4k120

[cosmic gazelle]

aka me

[turbid locust]

Back when I was on an XTX on 9070XT released I considered swapping to it anyway even at 4K

I swapped from XTX to 5070Ti

[cosmic gazelle]

i understand why someone would want a 4k display but i feel like if you only game and don't do production work 1440p is fine

don't think i would benefit much

[turbid locust]

1440p is fine at 27” or smaller imo

anything larger than that you want 4K

[cosmic gazelle]

man it's making me sad, I started watching peanut when he carried like 5-10k viewers and now he's regularly over 100k on youtube and twitch at the same time and i feel like he's gonna fall off soon and become not funny anymore

[odd sable]

48" 4k for me

[turbid locust]

42” 4K for me

[cosmic gazelle]

i think using anything bigger than 27 would be uncomfortable for my sitting position

[odd sable]

I have both

[turbid locust]

My setup is built around my 42” goober TV

[odd sable]

7900xtx in my gaming machine, 9070xt in my not-gaming machine

[odd sable]

LG OLED?

[turbid locust]

Ya

[cosmic gazelle]

why not the other way around? @odd sable

[odd sable]

Yee, 48c1 is what I got

[turbid locust]

I’m on a 42 C4

[odd sable]

Xtx is a bit faster

[cosmic gazelle]

wait the xtx is faster than the 9070 xt?

[turbid locust]

barely

[cosmic gazelle]

weird

[turbid locust]

9070XT is arguably faster if you consider upscaling settings below quality being usable lmao

That was my justification going from XTX to 5070Ti

[cosmic gazelle]

i religiously avoid doing anything lower than quality haha

[odd sable]

I don't use upscaling at all

[turbid locust]

I wouldn’t on RDNA 3 either

[odd sable]

I don't on anything

Even when I was using a 3090, still no

[turbid locust]

I would rather use upscaling than turn settings down so

[cosmic gazelle]

wait so AMD never released a true high end 9000 series card? how did i not figure that out ever

[odd sable]

I'd rather turn settings down off the dumb ones than upscaling

[turbid locust]

9070XT is high end, they just didn’t make anything to compete with the 5080 or 5090

[odd sable]

"ultra" is dumb and you can usually not see much difference vs high

[cosmic gazelle]

also how did they release a card that reduced process size from 5nm and MCD from 6nm to 4nm and it only uses 50 less watts

[odd sable]

Because it's a surprisingly big GPU still?

[frank cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[odd sable]

Xtx is 6144 SP, 9070xt is 4096

It's not like it's a tiny GPU by comparison

[frank cypress]

what do you mean you don't go look at characters with a microscope to see that juicy pore level details

[cosmic gazelle]

i know i'm just nonstop saying stuff that makes no sense so bear with me, but i thought after 20 series gpus didn't have usb c out

[frank cypress]

my work is meaningless

🤣

[cosmic gazelle]

but the xtx has a type c

[odd sable]

block game

[turbid locust]

this is my take with upscaling as well lol

[frank cypress]

fair enough

[odd sable]

Upscaling I have less issue with than frame gen

[turbid locust]

There’s some like super native elitists that go crazy when I say I can’t tell the difference between Native and DLSS Quality lol

[odd sable]

I'm not a fan of upscaling, because it's a hella bandaid I've seen used to "fix" perf issues at work

[turbid locust]

Like unless you’re hyper analytical of a still image or mostly still scene you’re not noticing lol

[odd sable]

I don't like that, just use upscaling is a way to fix GPU perf issues...

[cosmic gazelle]

i have kind of a hot take about frame gen and it's this- on a high res, high refresh rate display, it looks awful... but on a super low res 60hz tv, it actually is almost indistinguishable i'm so serious

[turbid locust]

I find frame gen to be cool as fuck

[turbid locust]

Yeah I don’t agree with this

[odd sable]

It's cool, but i don't like that it adds latency

And frame gen so doubles down on the part where real perf doesn't need to be good

[frank cypress]

also i due feel like it's a bit of an art problem

[cosmic gazelle]

I have a quadro p620 low profile system and i used frame gen for a bit and was shocked by how good it looked on a tv 10 feet away from me

[turbid locust]

I’m excited to see how DMFG is

[frank cypress]

i feel like fidelity is used as a replacement for direction nowadays

[odd sable]

Oh absolutely

[cosmic gazelle]

i would agree with this

every UE5 game looks basically the same

[turbid locust]

Yeah it needs to stay as an extra feature and not a crutch

[odd sable]

A lot of the games I really like how they look, are the stylized ones

[odd sable]

I currently work in AAA, I've seen it used as a crutch

[odd sable]

Bokura, for example

[turbid locust]

Yeah it’s definitely a thing just rough

[frank cypress]

because art direction holds up, quality doesn't over time

[cosmic gazelle]

case in point, arc- proved that a game can use ue5 and look great and still run very well, and also supports frame gen

[turbid locust]

Can you say what you work on or is it NDA funny stuff lol

[odd sable]

I can, I'm not going to

[cosmic gazelle]

roguelogix is currently developing the CCP tracking software that will be injected into every copy of GTA 6

[turbid locust]

Fair

[turbid locust]

Meanwhile Borderlands 4 is the complete opposite

[odd sable]

@frank cypress knows, and can back up that it's a large AAA studio you know

[cosmic gazelle]

i don't know if this is a hot take but like, BL4 runs the same as every other UE5 game... stalker 2 and outer worlds 2 run like basically the same

at least on my system that is

[turbid locust]

I’m not asking for credentials I was just curious lol

[cosmic gazelle]

they don't run WELL i'm not saying that

[turbid locust]

Stalker 2 is playable on my machine without frame gen. BL4 is literally unplayable without it.

[odd sable]

Fair, I might be more specific in the future, but for now a AAA game from a well known studio is as specific as I'll get

[frank cypress]

yep

[cosmic gazelle]

hmm. I was maintaining roughly 50-60fps on both games on similar settings

i couldn't use FG on stalker 2 because it ruins red dots

[frank cypress]

tbh, imo a lot of the current art and game issues i don't feel like is the fault of devs and artists

i feel like it's a top down issue

i think it's just.... deadlines

at least, from what i can tell

[turbid locust]

I wasn’t maintaining 60fps at Medium settings + DLSS Performance on BL4 on a 14900K and 5090

[cosmic gazelle]

bro what

that sounds preposterous i can't lie

[odd sable]

It can be

[cosmic gazelle]

3080 is what, like 40% of the performance of a 5090 or something... and i was getting 60fps on medium at 1440p quality dlss

[coral tartan]

Am I the only person in history to use this combo

[odd sable]

For us, there is actually a decent amount of styling that goes into it, which I think helps a good bit

But, it's still not great performance wise

[cosmic gazelle]

rogue do you know why arc runs so well relative to other ue5 games as a game developer

is it just like super hardcore culling or what

[coral tartan]

Cause esports

[odd sable]

There's some areas I've flagged as hey wtf? Because it dropped my xtx from 120 to like 20fps in play testing

[odd sable]

Usually games that "run well" just aren't really doing much

[cosmic gazelle]

hmm

[cosmic gazelle]

do you develop in one particular area or are you kind of all purpose

[odd sable]

I'm Engine, mostly performance

My job is best described as make game run fast

[cosmic gazelle]

do you care about your title running on 8gb cards 😂

[odd sable]

And more recently, grab the you're crashing the game stick and go beat design with it

Our minspec is a 2GB card

[cosmic gazelle]

dang i respect that

[odd sable]

It doesn't really run, please use a 3gb card

Also supports gen8 consoles, please install an SSD

[cosmic gazelle]

ngl its pretty surprising how lenient a lot of games still are on HDDs

only game i've ran into recently that complains is like forza horizon 5

[odd sable]

HDD are the bane of my existence

I have spent so long trying to fix perf issue because of them, and it's just, screm

please use SSDs

[frank cypress]

in this economy? /s

[cosmic gazelle]

lol fr, your boss after nand prices continue to skyrocket

[odd sable]

I will personally fly to the hat again and sledgehammer your rust

[marsh apex]

[odd sable]

Trying to get the game to stream shit in well when I've got 6 seeks per frame to work with and 3000 things to load in not 500 frames

Screm, so much screm

5400rpm drive, 30fps (target), average 2 seeks per rotation, 6 seeks per frame

[frank cypress]

xd

oh on a side note

[turbid locust]

My flight got cancelled again

[cosmic gazelle]

isn't there some thing where you can just make the game use like way more ram in exchange for hdd compatibility

[frank cypress]

i finally figured out what was causing the light flickering issue on my haircards

[turbid locust]

Work trip postponed till next week

[frank cypress]

turns out, dynamic lights and masked materials do not work well in UE5

[odd sable]

Sorta

[brisk jolt]

you get to run to mc with 5nail for 9850x3d

[turbid locust]

I hope they don’t get botted or some shit because I would love to not drive 4 hours round trip before work that day

I would love to just… drive to Best Buy when they open

[brisk eagle]

you would hope that a cpu that costs 20$ more and is a tiny bit more performant wouldnt get scalped to hell

[turbid locust]

Right but internet mfs

[brisk eagle]

honestly if they do get scalped like crazy

the scalpers wont make much money

[turbid locust]

My only actual fear is that this is gonna be like a fake launch

Like they made a low supply and they’re just gonna be perma OOS after launch lol

[brisk eagle]

i doubt that amd is “making” many of these
theyre just better binned 9800x3ds right?

[turbid locust]

I mean yeah that’s how they’re all made

[brisk eagle]

yea

idk im probably just going to wait until am6 and udna to upgrade my pc

[turbid locust]

9850X3Ds are basically just 9950X3D vcache CCDs without another CCD on the package

[brisk eagle]

oh cool

[low sorrel]

@topaz veldt wtf is an anvil splitter?

also i was totally friendly in this game and killed zero people in trios

[pure garnet]

best buy launch stock in store?

i'd be surprised if they had any

[turbid locust]

I hope?

if my only way to get one day 1 is driving to microcenter I’m gonna be mildly annoyed

[pure garnet]

ennui buying my gpu means i could be dumb and buy one day 1

but i don't have much interest

[frank cypress]

i just realized

that will be my third ad104 gpu

[turbid locust]

naw buy an AM5 apu

[leaden dawn]

Hey Mac

Photoshop 2025 works under WINE now

🥰

[turbid locust]

It also opens when I double click the shortcut on windows so

[brisk jolt]

i think im gonna sell my 32gb 6kc30 and swap to a 48gn 8kc40 kit

that 48g kit i see if not OOS has stayed the same even before the ram crisis

[green marsh]

even then i would first buy the 48GB kit and then sell the 32GB kit, just in case it is a fake/forgotten listing and they don't deliver

[brisk jolt]

Its literally at a physical retailer

[topaz veldt]

Turns anvil round from single bullet into shotgun-esque, it kind of sucks

[civic reef]

I am half tempted to buy this 2x8 gigglebit 2666 kit I found for $50

Teamgroup ELITE, CL19, 2666

Would make buying the rest of my eventual AM4 / DDR4 LGA 1700 build parts easier

[merry stirrup]

fifty dollar

[wise bear]

smelly mfs

all yall

[topaz veldt]

I am so set on the 9850X3D.... should I just get a 9950X3D

[stone bone]

hello does someone have a good preset for nv profile inspector

[topaz veldt]

why would you want someone elses preset?

[edgy laurel]

i'm not even sure what they're looking for

[topaz veldt]

guilty is homedepot.com working for you

[edgy laurel]

it is, yeah

[topaz veldt]

can you search for "generator"

[brisk jolt]

yes more dual ccd gambling

[burnt socket]

is it just me or it's linux for basic tasks and windows for gaming

[topaz veldt]

hm?

[topaz veldt]

weird

[burnt socket]

gulp

[edgy laurel]

what are you talking about

[burnt socket]

do people just use linux for zoom calls or document writing and windows for steam games

if they have dualboot

[edgy laurel]

I'm sure some people do but I can't think a single reason why you'd bother. dual booting is a pain in the ass

you can do everything in windows and not need to bother

let me reboot my whole computer because i'm going to open this app vs. that.. stupid

[burnt socket]

oh yeah i forgot

it was so that my mouse works correctly without the bullshit PowerShell making it disconnect

[burnt socket]

vs what??

[edgy laurel]

what?

powershell making your mouse disconnect, this makes zero sense

[topaz veldt]

why engage lol

[burnt socket]

some asus or rog service that freezes and disconnects my mouse

which gives me two choices:

1. uninstall armoury crate and it's Asus bs to stop the mouse from disconnecting frequently (somehow happens on regular mice)
2. dualboot Linux to have my mouse functioning correctly and boot windows to customize it

[shell void]

ryzen 9850x3dxtgtseaipromaxplusultra

[wise bear]

get rid of armory crate and use ghelper

like this is a no-brainer

just dont use asus' shit software

powershell is not causing your mouse to malfunction lmao

[burnt socket]

so windows is

[topaz veldt]

Lol wtf

[wise bear]

https://tenor.com/view/intergalactic-intergalactic-quality-intergalactic-robert-downey-jr-robert-downey-jr-robert-downey-jr-eye-roll-gif-26804824

[oak vector]

sounds like dodgy driver, controller, or port 😔
powershell is a new one lmaooo

[merry stirrup]

explosion

[wraith steeple]

[turbid locust]

@shell void do you know if Best Buy usually has launch day stock

[shell void]

if you mean IRL then i have no idea

if youre buying online then id try BHPhoto

[turbid locust]

The goal is to physically have a 9850X3D on launch day

but everything is pointing to me having to drive 4 hours round trip to microcenter if I want that to happen

[shell void]

if you lived in a major city then maybe your bestbuy would have a couple of them

but seeing as you have to drive 2 hours to get to a microcenter i dont think you live in a major city

[turbid locust]

We have 2 Best Buy’s

[turbid locust]

Like 3rd biggest in my state, it’s just KY lmao

[shell void]

this is so cheap

[turbid locust]

fire

although the normal version does not have the perforated front

[shell void]

BUNS

it's calm im not downsizing my PC for a while longer anyway

no new cpu shiz until early 2027

[turbid locust]

Half the reason I’m ready for the 9850X3D is so I can swap back to my A3 lmao

[shell void]

mpower in a MFF case is pretty peak

if i was buying parts today then that's what id do

[turbid locust]

I might have to swap to a 240 AIO which would be kinda womp womp but not the end of the world

I just have to see if my 5090 is going to fit with the PSU in that lower position

[shell void]

240mm aio in a MFF case meant for 360mm is so lamesauce though

it is time for you to acquire a smaller psu

you must

coping is not optimal

[leaden dawn]

Tv

[civic reef]

B&H Photo video are pretty good tbh

They have fairly cheap shipping to us

I could buy an ARC B580 for not much more than its real price

[fringe vigil]

lets go buddy

[steel stream]

lol what is this

[fringe vigil]

my vault of guiltys editing presets

[steel stream]

oh wow

[fringe vigil]

yh bro theyre so good

[oak vector]

Lmao not creepy at all

[fringe vigil]

bro thats the name of the editing pack

[edgy laurel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/yeah-waitwhat

[fringe vigil]

hard presets

[steel stream]

I thought jorj was making like a compilation of you at first lol

[edgy laurel]

I was going through my head trying to think of what I sent jorj

[fringe vigil]

lol a compilation bruh

[edgy laurel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/lara-croft-saying-no-tomb-raider

[green marsh]

yes, A3 is a nice case too

[edgy laurel]

this is prime /r/tvtoohigh ragebait

[grave lion]

[green marsh]

who am i to tell people to make reasonable tv placements. If they want to destroy their necks, it's their choice

[grave lion]

correct?

[steel stream]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-to-use-rdna5-for-premium-igpu-solutions-but-rdna3-5-to-remain-the-core-of-amd-portfolio-until-2029

[shell void]

rdna3 forever 🔥 (and no we wont port FSR4 to it, you can suffer with terrible performance in TAA games)

[steel stream]

long live the king!

[shell void]

it brings me immeasurable pleasure to see intel arc whooping radeon with a tiny little 53mm² gpu tile

[steel stream]

but but strix halo or something

[shell void]

mfw the strix halo gpu is like 4x the silicon area and only beats panther lake by 30% at the same power limit

[turbid locust]

360mm with a fan missing

[shell void]

that would be amusing so i support it

[turbid locust]

Honestly just looking for an excuse to swap my LF3 to bench only duties

fuckers loud now

[brave panther]

• strix halo cannot use user upgradable memory

[merry stirrup]

good morning chat

i return to my domicile today

[turbid locust]

swag

I am snowed in and my work trip got canceled

[brave panther]

lol why?
they dont know how to drive on snow?

[turbid locust]

airplane + ice and whatnot I guess

[steel stream]

best of luck

[turbid locust]

Is DeepCool still banned this case I’m kinda fire https://x.com/deepcoolglobal/status/2015092443645964364?s=46

DeepCool (@Deepcoolglobal)

Aesthetic is everything🤤

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X · Jan 24, 2026, 4:00 PM

[steel stream]

yeah we're getting decent snow but someone is driving up to buy one of my FBM items so I will weather the storm

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/fsr-gif-22015334

[steel stream]

I want my money

[shell void]

i will never switch up on father freezer, he's too goated

33% fan signal and 50% pump signal

[turbid locust]

mines loud as fuck now