tech-chat-2

[topaz veldt]

Whatever @frank cypress offers I'll pay $50 more

[frank cypress]

go for it lol

[steel stream]

whatever @topaz veldt pays I'll pay 1$ more

there isn't a card that's safe from your grasp

[frank cypress]

I kinda want another ada card cause my 4070ti was so good

gonna put the dual 2080tis into the 13700k pc

[steel stream]

ah I see

[pure garnet]

300 eagle dollars

[topaz veldt]

I had a 4070 Ti Super for like 20 mins

[frank cypress]

holy fuck the Canadian dollars is doing horribly

oh nvm, not as bad as I thought

hmmm

I wonder how much shipping would be

[steel stream]

Pepperidge farm remembers

[pure garnet]

the last time i shipped to maple someone else did the label but

shipping to edge of border was like 15 usd

[frank cypress]

I feel like its probably gonna be like 50 dollars

canadian

lemme check tho

oof, I was right

ill think about it for a bit then, I think itll total to around 500 cad

[steel stream]

brutal

[pure garnet]

i asked another canadian friend and they said if i use usps half the time taxes dont get filed

[low sorrel]

whatever @frank cypress offers ill offer 0.01$ more

[pure garnet]

you already flaked on buying it bro

[low sorrel]

oh right

ennui offer him 299.69

[devout ridge]

i’ll offer .01 more than jerry

(what am i buying?)

[pure garnet]

a 4070

[devout ridge]

2c more than jerry then

[frank cypress]

its a bit of a gamble

but for 300 us its likely to be flagged

I think if its around 150 cad its about 50/50

[pure garnet]

what if i ship you half the card in 1 shipment and half the card in another

problem solved fr

[topaz veldt]

https://x.com/i/status/2014797787691688180

ARC Raiders Alerts (@ArcRaiderAlerts)

Ticks are your best friends in ARC Raiders!

X · Jan 23, 2026, 8:30 PM

[steel stream]

ah yes, cooler and pcb in one package, core and memory dies in the other

[steel stream]

fucking awesome lol

[frank cypress]

real

[frank cypress]

just crack it in half

[steel stream]

yeah that works too

https://tenor.com/view/bane-dark-knight-rises-broken-back-pain-low-gif-16700598

kyoko to the 4070

[low sorrel]

what if you commit tax fraud and mark it as for parts?

(i don't condone tax fraud)

[pure garnet]

that's not my area

[steel stream]

holy ugly bro

[fringe vigil]

I mean it’s alright like

[steel stream]

this old design is so much better though

[edgy laurel]

eww. the series they were from were meant to look classic

Heritage line, or something

[steel stream]

yah, was just doing some browsing today and noticed that those klipsch models (Fives, Sevens, Nines) all got new "II" models

[edgy laurel]

yeah i'm seeing that now

[random flame]

Hmmmm... Should do black instead.

[steel stream]

the black and walnut versions look way better

[edgy laurel]

somethign about that front bit that looks too rounded off now

[steel stream]

yeah I still prefer the originals, but those are at least good enough looking

[edgy laurel]

on their own, i guess its not bad but i was into the sharp edged classic look of the OG's

[turbid locust]

Are you kidding? Absolutely not. Why would they not make the front also walnut.

[steel stream]

somebody saw the chamfer tool in AutoCad and went ham

[south shuttle]

i like

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-nah-gif-27078288

[steel stream]

way better in comparison to the white version lol, the OG's are 10x better imo

[low sorrel]

lol im looking at reviews

"moog is shit buy mevotech instead."
"mevotech is shit buy delphi."
"delphi is shit buy moog"

[steel stream]

yeah I'm happy with my original pair

that are currently sitting on my floor unused

[edgy laurel]

Emotiva caught my eye recently, lotta mixed opinions out there

[random flame]

I agree.

[steel stream]

anyways, buy these

[random flame]

Uuhhh can I not just get something wired instead?

[steel stream]

these are wired

I'm using them with USB-C rn

[random flame]

That I'm not paying extra for because of the included wireless feature?

[south shuttle]

edifier mr series if you want to save $$ ig

[steel stream]

I would have liked this color but that's only on the $1500 models lol

[south shuttle]

i can get mr4 for like 85

[turbid locust]

My gene was last seen in Philly and it still says expected delivery by 9pm lmao

[south shuttle]

including 23% tax

[edgy laurel]

The ones @turbid locust has are pretty good for the price

[random flame]

What do those look like?

[steel stream]

for audio input you get toslink, usb-c, and arc

[turbid locust]

Really happy with my MR3’s

[topaz veldt]

KEF is for people who wear

[steel stream]

then a subwoofer out

[steel stream]

before I respond is this a dig or a compliment

[topaz veldt]

bro if it was in philly is gone

[turbid locust]

[topaz veldt]

I assure you

[turbid locust]

Tweakers smoked my gene

[edgy laurel]

if its still in philly tomorrow, don't expect till late next week

[south shuttle]

uglee but they smol

[random flame]

Dayum, that's more inputs than I expected, especially the ethernet.

[turbid locust]

Yeah 100% lol

[south shuttle]

and goob sound for price

[random flame]

Hmmmm looks fine to me.

[steel stream]

yeah ethernet is for connecting to some uPnP media service you have which is kinda dope

[topaz veldt]

philly right now

[random flame]

I guess it must be goobtastic, eh? Lol.

[south shuttle]

(also rember to take how you place the speakers, it diff on wooden tables or glass table, dry walls or cement walls, etc).

a goob speaker can turn out sounding like a garbage can

[edgy laurel]

real ogs know

[steel stream]

i personally place them grills down

[steel stream]

we had these in school

[south shuttle]

they were good in 2025 under 100, so i assume still good in 2026?

good thing this is not iems

[edgy laurel]

i think everybody did

[random flame]

Hmmm alright then. Guess worth looking out for a deal for where I can then.

[steel stream]

@turbid locust do you have a subwoofer yet

[frank cypress]

@pure garnet what model is the 4070?

[turbid locust]

naw

[steel stream]

missing out

[topaz veldt]

I place cement walls on my speakers

[turbid locust]

haven’t felt the need to get one tbh. MR3s are plenty boof-ey

[steel stream]

trust

[steel stream]

i just encase my speakers in acryllic personally

[edgy laurel]

i still have this saved https://verafiaudiollc.com/products/vanguard-caldera-10-active-subwoofer

[pure garnet]

4070 dual oc

asus

[edgy laurel]

perfect for a desktop setup assuming you can run RCA to it

no dedicated LFE input

[topaz veldt]

Windy AF out

[edgy laurel]

yeah it is

[south shuttle]

i have nightmares from asus dual/mini/phoenix since ampere

the fans ;-; why

[topaz veldt]

we are so effed

[south shuttle]

40 series hopefully better fans

[pure garnet]

well ada isn't fabbed on samsung so

[steel stream]

I bought some 10" Klipsch with LFE for like $150 so I'm pretty happy with that

[south shuttle]

i hate fans that sound like public transport buses

[steel stream]

makes an awesome footrest tbh

[edgy laurel]

need a KEF KC62 now

[steel stream]

if only if only

I want the blade tbh, it just looks rad

[frank cypress]

hmmmmmmmmnn if I dont see anything better on fbm after a bit ill hit u up

[steel stream]

just 34K

[pure garnet]

yeah just dm me

i can negotiate a bit

[steel stream]

actual alien technology

[pure garnet]

i dont wanna deal with ebay so i'd rather knock a bit off vs sitting on it

[random flame]

Never seen those specifically, buuuut I will admit I did kinda like old speaker designs like those sort.

Especially back in the early 2000s.

[steel stream]

they're pretty good, just 34 grand

[random flame]

D a m n

[steel stream]

tbh why they have those interior facing speakers but oh well

[random flame]

Flipping pricey.

[edgy laurel]

usually passive radiators

[random flame]

I wonder how great they are then.

[topaz veldt]

why are we not talking about 5090s

[steel stream]

ah yeah

[random flame]

Is there not a sound system or speaker pair by that model name per chance?

[steel stream]

https://youtu.be/lh8D7LhlVoQ apparently good

[random flame]

If not, then screw that noise. Lmao.

[topaz veldt]

There is just nothing more powerful and better than a 5090

[turbid locust]

are you gonna get one of the specialty 5090s lmao

Like the Matrix or whatever tf gigabyte made

[edgy laurel]

given how many options there are, i wouldn't get those simply due to the look. not into it

[steel stream]

oh they're midbass drivers. I can agree to a point, would just depend on my living room if I were ever able to get them

like if you have some cool sci-fi feeling room those would be sweet

[random flame]

I'd probably just design my own speakers to build instead of I wanted something that bad and made it to sound good. Getting the most out of that experience that way. Lol.

[steel stream]

you MUST pay 35K for the unique looking towers

[random flame]

THAT DOES IT.
I'm doing it myself.

[steel stream]

best of luck

[topaz veldt]

Nah

[turbid locust]

Brokie.

[shell void]

thankfully gigabyte doesnt lock vbios

you can just flash the matrix or lightning vbios on a gigabyte card and then waterblock it

if you have a tuf or black astral 5090 then asus says FUCK YOU

[pure garnet]

ngl i forgot the black astral existed

[topaz veldt]

mhm

[frank cypress]

ye i get it

[pure garnet]

@shell void so apparently i need 1950fps in ffxiv to gain more dps in my rotation

like consistently

takes off a 0.005s clip from every skill i press

[steel stream]

480p gaming time

1950 fps is insane

is there anything that's able to do that

[steel stream]

we know all your crazy tech images are AI generated don't lie to us

[pure garnet]

uhhhhhh at reasonal res i don't think so

so i would need the compute power of 5 5090s if it scaled 1:1 (and a lot faster cpu)

[steel stream]

jesus

[low sorrel]

@topaz veldt @steel stream arc raiders?

[topaz veldt]

cant just now

[topaz veldt]

OK YOU GOT ME

[steel stream]

oh shit I didn't mean to out you to all of TC2 my b bro

[topaz veldt]

you fucking ruined me dude

how am I going to impress all you guys now

[odd sable]

im sorry, wot?

[steel stream]

your cooking and foods pretty good tbh, i think that'll do

[topaz veldt]

fack

[shell void]

this chart shows that we need better CPUs xD

the lows with a 5090 are barely better than with a 6600xt

[steel stream]

NVL 🙏

[odd sable]

no, to me that shows that the game has issues

[shell void]

definitely, but a consumer cant do anything about it except for buy a faster cpu

[odd sable]

fair

[shell void]

crying about optimization on reddit wont help

[odd sable]

lemme go grab my optimization stick and go beat gameplay with it, ive done it before, ill do it again

but in reality, when something like that is seen, its something the game needs to fix really

[shell void]

most definitely

[odd sable]

no, consumers cant do anything about it, but that doesnt change that the game should be doing something about it

[shell void]

it seems like all MMOs have terrible performance for the image quality

[odd sable]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[frank zealot]

FG 6x go brrrrrrr

[gilded creek]

NUh uh

[frank zealot]

Such a well reasoned rebuttal, how can anyone disagree?

[gilded creek]

Fr

[swift steppe]

anyone got any ideas on why im getting such now fps idk whats bottlenecking me

[swift steppe]

11600kf, 3060 12gb 1440p

[gilded creek]

Isn’t that a good thing?

[swift steppe]

meant low but im literally getting 25-40 fps

[pure garnet]

need in engine frames because it's just bruteforcing a bad serverside design thing

[edgy laurel]

not with so little information, no

[swift steppe]

yes thats fair but idk what else to give tbh

[odd sable]

what game?

[edgy laurel]

DDU? Uninstall any and all GPU affecting software (afterburner)? More than one game? monitored with PresentMon to look for CPU limitations? benchmarked CPU and GPU independently to ensure they're performing normally?

[odd sable]

its likely just a single thread bottlenecked game

they are common, and dont show "100%" CPU util, even though they sorta are

given that its D3D11, thats almost certainly the case

[edgy laurel]

40fps is pretty low but its a mystery since we have no idea of the game.

I feel like a 3060 would be pinned in most modern titles at 1440p too

11600k should be sufficient

[swift steppe]

well beamng drive

[odd sable]

cpu bottlenecked

[edgy laurel]

Weird simulation titles are not very representative of things working as they should

when you have an issue, play a variety of games

[swift steppe]

i own 0 AAA games, and im broke so

[odd sable]

its beamng, its CPU bound

it always is

[swift steppe]

im not even on high graphics, a 11600k should be more than suffice

[edgy laurel]

seeing plenty of 3060 owners above 100 fps with worse CPU's so I doubt thats entirely it

[odd sable]

it depends on what you are doing in the game

but, its single core (thread) bound

that "50%" CPU usage is a lie, and doesn't give you the full picture of what's going on

[swift steppe]

i mean i was literally stationary on west coast usa with hardly any traffic on

[odd sable]

"game"

[edgy laurel]

1080p but its a 10400f https://youtu.be/g632taUmPhE

Yeah I mean, try different environments. If you can load up something super simple are the results different?

[swift steppe]

1 sec i can literally just go on the most basic map in the game

[edgy laurel]

well there you go

heavily environment dependent

[brittle trellis]

Do you have traffic enabled?

I'm on an 11600k and 1080 ti and it will run like that with traffic enabled

[turbid locust]

My flight Sunday got canceled right, rebooked Monday.

[steel stream]

damn

[turbid locust]

Called the car rental company to adjust my reservation to reflect the new arrival date

The agent that answered the girl deadass sounded identical to an anime girl

[swift steppe]

yeah only 2 cars and no parked cars

[brittle trellis]

On what map?

[swift steppe]

west coast

[turbid locust]

like you could’ve told me it was an anime girl voice changer and I would’ve believed you

[steel stream]

AI

[brittle trellis]

Do you have dynamic reflections enabled?

[swift steppe]

uhhh i do not remember

[brittle trellis]

check then instead of saying you don't remember

[swift steppe]

hard to do when im not on my pc right now

[low sorrel]

@topaz veldt can you tell what im in a deficit of by what i looted?

[pure garnet]

@shell void the only "deal" tmobile has for me is the $320 trade in, that's so not awesomesauce

[low sorrel]

@steel stream @edgy laurel @topaz veldt @brave panther explain this

[turbid locust]

Skill issue

[shell void]

cheap battery swap sounds so much better

[turbid locust]

Kyoko what’s current whip (phone)

[pure garnet]

15pm

[turbid locust]

bro why are you trying to upgrade lmao

[pure garnet]

i don't pay my phone bill directly so it wouldn't change the monthly amount

to just carry another installment

i was just hoping they had a boosted trade credit promo that didn't involve making the plan worse

[turbid locust]

My 16PM is “25% paid off” (I got the phone free with the plan but yk how that is lol)

If I tried to swap carriers rn theyd make me pay the rest of the “free” phone off

[pure garnet]

yeah bill credits

but yeah since my bill is fixed anyway i'll probably still do it

just lame it's not higher value

[turbid locust]

I could upgrade to the 17PM for “free” but lol

[pure garnet]

im on old plan

[turbid locust]

Frankly I’d like to swap to one of those cheapo BYOD carriers for like $15/m but

Verizon has mildly spoiled me

Verizon’s 5GUW coverage is kinda sick

Mobile data that feels like you’re on WiFi is pretty cool

[pure garnet]

that’s my plan when i get off this

[turbid locust]

I was on one of those before I swapped to Verizon and it’s a noticeable quality difference in terms of coverage, call quality, and data performance but not the end of the world

[eager elm]

Where do you guys find cool wallpapers

[turbid locust]

coolwallpapers.com

[devout ridge]

new JBOD installed, just a cool 250w of idle power draw

can’t actually use it until i get the HBA and cables tho

[turbid locust]

kek

[oak vector]

It’s gorgeous

[devout ridge]

idle power draw of the entire rest of the rack is 200w, the JBOD alone is 250w

i get it’s 24 SAS drives, but jesus christ

[brisk eagle]

just chucked that psu into there

[burnt socket]

does it feel like an oven in the back

[blazing matrix]

Is 3080 more powerful than 5060? 8gb

[devout ridge]

mobo was too big to fit properly, so no room to actually mount the PSU

stupid ass EE-ATX mobo

[brisk eagle]

ah

mines eeatx too

[devout ridge]

that’s actually my primary NAS, like 160 days of uptime

[brisk eagle]

silly standard

[devout ridge]

hard to call it a standard when only one company used it, and abandoned it just as fast

[brisk jolt]

yes

[hoary rock]

does anyone know if the lenovo L490 still has a wifi card whitelist? im getting mixed answers from lenovo support and google

[edgy laurel]

yes

inclusion of a quantum dot layer which is commonplace these days

[shell void]

i think today is the coldest day of the year

[edgy laurel]

7 degrees. well, it was between 2 and 5 on Tuesday

[fervent chasm]

My laptop got delayed so I won’t miss its arrival Yipee

[edgy laurel]

makes no damn difference though at this level lol

[fervent chasm]

Dude I’m leaving today on the train but I’m ngl it’s the coldest day I could leave

I didn’t even bring a coat

8F when I leave

And it’s gonna feel like -7 apparently

[edgy laurel]

not smart

[fervent chasm]

Yah I didn’t realize how cold it would be

At least I won’t miss my laptop arrival

The weather delayed USPS

It’s stuck somewhere in Ohio still

I still don’t know how I feel about 4 cores

At least they’re all P cores

[green marsh]

could be worse, there is a laptop CPU which is 1P+4E

[fervent chasm]

It’s a modern cpu?

[edgy laurel]

Ryzen 8300G

[fervent chasm]

Is that the frequency?

[edgy laurel]

1 Zen4 core + 3 Zen4c cores

[fervent chasm]

1GHz

[green marsh]

yes https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/226264/intel-celeron-processor-7305-8m-cache-1-10-ghz/specifications.html

[random flame]

Yep.

[fervent chasm]

It’s ddr5 sheesh

Mine is 4

[green marsh]

Celeron 7305 CPU is 1GHz for one P-Core + 700MHz for 4 E-Core

intel excels at making horrible lowend products

[fervent chasm]

lol

[green marsh]

the m3 series was at least somewhat capable in comparison https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/185282/intel-core-m38100y-processor-4m-cache-up-to-3-40-ghz/specifications.html

2c/4t 1.1->3.4GHz, 5 to 8W TDPD

[brave panther]

Network issue

When i hot swap wan interface if i am having an issue in game i get shortly desynced, i get to move normaly but in reality to others i am staying still

[shell void]

oh it's quite a bit warmer where you are

it was -17 here when i checked a half an hour ago

my boogies were freezin outside

[edgy laurel]

holy shit

[green marsh]

use the units tho

[civic reef]

AMD is doing the E & P core bullshit too 💔?

[edgy laurel]

8500g and 8300g, yes

though not quite the same as P cores

[civic reef]

Oh

[edgy laurel]

fullsize core but half the cache

[civic reef]

Atleast not their standard chips

[civic reef]

And I assume "E" cores are downclocked with an even smaller cache?

[shell void]

fahrenheit twin

[edgy laurel]

i looked. where he is i'm seeing temps right now down to -22f (-30c)

[green marsh]

depends on what you consider "downclocked". Is the 2nd CCD in 9950x an E-core ?

[edgy laurel]

i think they're referring to intel's e-cores

[civic reef]

I am talking about AMD's e-core equivalent

Since, from what I understood, they employed that sort of configuration in the 8300G & 8500G

[brave panther]

Nah, its only on epyc right now, and its all "ecores" not a mix

[edgy laurel]

AMD has taken full size cores, clocked them lower and pulled a bunch of cache out of them to physically fit more of them in a space. Zen4 versions are called Zen4c. They're used in a couple mainstream chips like the ones listed + a bunch of Epyc enterprise products

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_4#Zen_4c

they still have SMT and function just like a full Zen4 cores just slower

[civic reef]

Oh, okay thank you

So pretty much all just made "worse" to fit more.. Fair enough

[edgy laurel]

yep. with Zen5c they have Epyc 9965. 192 Zen5c cores for 384 threads

thats a fuckton of cores

[civic reef]

Makes sense since EPYC are more about core count than individual speed

Thanks for this info btw

[edgy laurel]

not really, or more not always. The point of Epyc is differing SKU's to suit different markets and use cases. Some applications purely require core count and density hence why that one exists

[merry stirrup]

kind of

there pretty similar in raw compute they just don’t have as much cache really

that’s what makes their footprint smaller

[brisk jolt]

every masterpiece has their cheap copy

[merry stirrup]

in less memory bound loads i’m sure they’re nearly identical to non C cores

[shell void]

zen 6 CPUs have more addressable "core" types than nova lake does 🥀

[merry stirrup]

what they get for keeping hyper threading

[shell void]

itd be cool to have a 32x zen6c CCD with a huge slab of cache under it

[merry stirrup]

would be an interesting idea

[civic reef]

Huh, expected threadrippers to be their primary per-core power and pure core count mix offering

But yeah, makes sense

[shell void]

threadripper gets the undesirable cuts of meat

[edgy laurel]

the point was not every Epyc is packed to the gills with "c" cores. They have a range of options.

Some without "c" cores at all

in fact, most

[brave panther]

same way intel made xeon Phi
bunch of atom cores on a chip

[edgy laurel]

yeah i'm sure they had a use case or market where that was beneficial.. maybe

Atom has such a bad connotation for me

as an OG Acer Aspire One netbook owner back in the day

[brave panther]

yea...

when you only have 2 its bad

[shell void]

the low power intel cpus from the 2010s were so buns

[edgy laurel]

absolutely dreadful

[merry stirrup]

yeah, this era of laptops is probably why i don’t really like them today

slow like core duo, atom, centrino stuff

[edgy laurel]

the dark times

[civic reef]

I still haven't forgiven Intel for what they did with their U SKUs

[shell void]

panther lake reviews should be coming out soon because devices are purchasable starting jan 27

[merry stirrup]

yah. and it sucks that those were the good side of it

you could’ve had worse with amd, a lot worse

[civic reef]

So.. C offerings for pure core count/mixed (in some options I think?), standards for full EPYC core power offerings?

[shell void]

there are no mixed core type epyc CPUs but they are mixed in consumer mobile parts

heterogeneous is a no-no in enterprise

[edgy laurel]

basically, yeah. Where core density is required thats why the "c" cores models exist. Pure density.

[merry stirrup]

compact

[shell void]

compaq presario

[merry stirrup]

i liked the older compaq/toshiba machines

[edgy laurel]

shudders

[shell void]

hey now i did some gaming on my single core 2GHz compaq presario with no dgpu

i dont miss it at all

[edgy laurel]

I'd go to my buddies house and we'd play C&C Red Alert and Dune 2000 on something that looks just like this

[shell void]

that looks super clean

[topaz veldt]

And Nascar Racing by Papyrus

[edgy laurel]

my cousin was a big nascar fan, def played that at his house

[shell void]

god the epic launcher is so annoying

[civic reef]

Fair enough

[topaz veldt]

Unparalleled realism

[edgy laurel]

honestly, still pretty accurate 😆

[topaz veldt]

Only like 2 gauges moved lol

Imagine dlss on that shit

[shell void]

the leap in graphics from that to this nascar thunder 2003 game is colossal

[edgy laurel]

lol

[shell void]

glory to the chinese memory party

[civic reef]

Okay I am kinda thankful that AMD actually kept desktop core count for their 4000 series U SKUs

4750U w/ 8 cores is perfect for my needs

[merry stirrup]

i’m waiting patiently

[brisk jolt]

let them cook 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055103856465428532/1461607991420653689/q8rnggwz5ndg1.gif

[civic reef]

Tbh these graphics still hold up to a degree

They're not bad persay, and I believe they don't hinder gameplay

[random flame]

Meanwhile, still waiting to see Substrate come out of silence again, just for the sake of seeing where they're at right now.

[edgy laurel]

YTMC not getting into DRAM?

looks like just flash

[merry stirrup]

i truly wonder how hynix is so ahead on d5

[shell void]

theyre not really

for consumer udimm overclocking potential yeah but not anything else

[merry stirrup]

there’s nobody else remotely competitive for d5

[merry stirrup]

well i mean of course that is what i am talking about

[shell void]

idek

[merry stirrup]

there’s 1 other ic not made by hynix that one could consider good

and it’s nanya and basically non existent

[shell void]

i wish i could just chuck in 8800cl36 1.1v micron mrdimms and not think about my ram

[random flame]

What other IC?

[merry stirrup]

idk specific name it’s probably n16a tho

[random flame]

Hmmm...

[merry stirrup]

nanya pretty similar to everyone else naming wise

it’s the only ic that can do lower trfc than hynix a die (apparently) but it rolls over at high freqs, so it’s only really “better” on ryzen systems

[shell void]

what trfc ns are people running with that?

[merry stirrup]

and not for long, doubt amd is going to push gear 1 for next gen

[shell void]

im expecting gear 1 to be locked out in zen 6 cpus

they locked gear 1 in threadripper 9000

[merry stirrup]

igor got 300 tRFC on intel @ 6800, but hardwall there

by igor i mean our beloved madness

but igor used his data

6000 doing 260 trfc but primaries r great too

[shell void]

88ns? O_O

[merry stirrup]

yah

[merry stirrup]

6000
30-28-28-48
1.4vdd

truly a great ic. not sure about its refi performance or temperature instability

it just doesn’t exist and i don’t see it being actually good for g2

[shell void]

afaik the official specs for both zen 6 and nova lake are 2x1r 8000mt/s with jedec cudimms so itll be interesting to see how high people go with OC

[merry stirrup]

i wanna see some cool 10K+ configs

@random flame it is indeed named N16A

funny cause they had a good d4 ic that was basically samsung bdie

called n8b

[shell void]

CXML was given leaked samsung ddr5 info so if they made udimms then theyll probably be buns for overclocking

nanya ramp production and save us

[brave panther]

i wonder if they will produce first party modules

like crucial did

[shell void]

inshallah

[wraith steeple]

[sharp heart]

i wonder how well it will scale

[merry stirrup]

scaling with ram is pretty wacky today true

[hoary hatch]

I've spent too much money at Costco this week 😵‍💫

[steel stream]

it's ok

as long as you bought some cool stuff

[hoary hatch]

$500 between glasses and a car battery

Not going to total the snacks 💀

Oh and I bought a tire inflator, so that's another $40

3 pairs of glasses for $360 so it's not egregious per frame I guess

[steel stream]

damn man lol

[hoary hatch]

I got a slightly stronger prescription, so new daily + sunglasses
I also got a computer use prescription, so got a set with that

[steel stream]

how do the computer use prescription differ?

[hoary hatch]

Regular glasses: see further
Computer glasses: make stuff bigger

I think

Eye doc asked how much I stared at screens during the day, I said 12 hours, he said I should try something for computer use

[steel stream]

smart move

[steel stream]

https://videocardz.com/newz/forza-horizon-6-lists-intel-arc-b390-panther-lake-igpu-in-minimum-pc-requirements

pretty neat to see

[hoary hatch]

Based

[turbid locust]

Americans will use anything but the metric system

[topaz veldt]

I've got 41 grams of NFGs

[craggy venture]

yooo guys is there anyone who knows about gpus vbioses

anyone

[turbid locust]

no not a single soul knows about that

[merry stirrup]

yeah no clue

[edgy laurel]

never heard of em

[shell void]

who is vbios

[merry stirrup]

is that like code on a video

[shell void]

how is vbios?

[hoary hatch]

Why is vbios

[shell void]

food for thought

[fringe vigil]

my speakers are cooked

i keep hearing a continious hiss from one of the speakers, somethings gone wrong, have to replace

[edgy laurel]

what I woke to when my beloved Swan's internal amp kicked the bucket

[fringe vigil]

so its broken?

[edgy laurel]

do the basics. does it stop when you unplug the input source?

[fringe vigil]

it stops when i turn the volume down

[edgy laurel]

sure but completely unplug it from your PC

the audio cable. keep it powered

[fringe vigil]

uh

the thing plugged in the back of my pc?

[edgy laurel]

yes jorj.. the audio cable

[fringe vigil]

that connects it

[edgy laurel]

unplug it from the PC and if possible from the back of the speakers

does the sound stop?

yes, the red and white RCA cables.

[fringe vigil]

Yes wait

[edgy laurel]

keep the speakers powered on and at a normal volume. does the hiss/hum stop when you unplug just the audio cables from the back?

if so, the speakers might be fine

but you need another source and possibly another cable to really test for sure

[fringe vigil]

i can still hear it when i get really close - when i took out the red white cables

on one of them

but its not as loud as when plugged in

[edgy laurel]

yeah i'd be testing another source and another cable before writing off the speakers as dead

due diligence for narrowing down the source of a problem

[fringe vigil]

another cable, where im supposed to spring thast from

[leaden dawn]

iGPU? That's rare

[edgy laurel]

in your head you should be thinking: "Is the problem the source (my PC), the cable, or the speakers themselves"

and you need to move things around and try different combinations to come to that conclusion

[proven saddle]

*i wana be gpu

[edgy laurel]

or, if you're lazy, you can just assume the speakers are dead and replace them but thats not the smart way to go about it

[fringe vigil]

how can it be my pc

[edgy laurel]

thats not a relevant question

when you have a problem, you don't start with assuming something isn't at fault. You TEST.

[shell void]

hissing coming from powered speakers with higher amp gain isnt unusual

[edgy laurel]

whatever he's experiencing is new as of today

but i'm struggling to to explain basic troubleshooting 101.. not surprising

well, he's struggling to comprehend

[odd sable]

There will always be some amount of noise, amplifiers aren't perfect.
If unplugging the input made it better, it's likely that a good amount of it was just interference with that cable. Use a better shielded one, or move the analog source physically closer and/or away from other electronics. An external DAC is a good way to do this.

[edgy laurel]

https://youtu.be/6wZ93yfKpbM?si=HM22b1g5RXPTMwOn

[fringe vigil]

idk it just continous hissing but lowers when i turn the volume down

[edgy laurel]

Yes or no. Did this do this in the same way yesterday.

at the same volume levels

[fringe vigil]

its been like this for a while

[edgy laurel]

....

[odd sable]

Yes, that's completely normal, all amplifiers do it to some extent. Just may not always be audible.

[edgy laurel]

well, i've given you basic troubleshooting steps

you just have to actually do them

[odd sable]

One thing you can do to help is lower the volume of the speakers, and increase the volume of the source.

If your computer was already at 100 and you used the speaker's volume for control, idk then

[fringe vigil]

nah i dont think its at 100 on pc

[edgy laurel]

do that, then turn the speakers down.

I never touch windows volume, its always at 100. Volume control is done with the knob on my speakers built in amp.

[proven saddle]

2 panel?

[fringe vigil]

w

[cosmic gazelle]

to be fair it is worth adjusting windows volume sometimes

i have a super cheap tv in my room with speakers that sound like a cat with a hairball at anything above 40, so it offers a lot less volume granularity than just using windows

[edgy laurel]

When I find one I’ll take note

[cosmic gazelle]

just found one 😉

[topaz veldt]

i use windows volume because im lazy

[odd sable]

i use both

i use windows to set the volume range of my amps to something reasonable, and can move both to make small adjustments

[topaz veldt]

my secret is out

[gilded creek]

Dang

Tough ngl

[plush smelt]

I used the thermal paste that came with the cooler 120 SE thermal right, is it enough or nah?

[merry stirrup]

is the computer working

[hoary hatch]

It definitely exploded

[merry stirrup]

must’ve been the paste

[pure garnet]

the paste it comes with is actually just a snack

you're supposed to use 5w30 full synthetic for the cpu cooler

[merry stirrup]

ohhhh

[pure garnet]

should i like

pack that psu up floppa

[merry stirrup]

yeah

had homie ship gpu out

will be here wed

[brisk jolt]

The computer isnt employed yet

[merry stirrup]

same bro same

[pure garnet]

they hate u

[merry stirrup]

god FAWK

[pure garnet]

well

[merry stirrup]

that’s diabolical

i paid less to next day my monitor

[merry stirrup]

should be fine 72$ works that’s just insane ship time comparatively

will check fbm one last time

[pure garnet]

oh usps says 31st if you wanna gamble on them

[merry stirrup]

hx1200 for 105 eeeeffhh

[merry stirrup]

they’re generally good in my area but that’s a big package for them

what’s ship

[pure garnet]

23 rn

well 22.80

[merry stirrup]

so same? or that’s for ups

[pure garnet]

that's ups

[merry stirrup]

oh ok

[pure garnet]

usps was $16

it's just ground cubic

priority is $30

[merry stirrup]

priority is how much faster?

[pure garnet]

1 day

[merry stirrup]

so 30th

[pure garnet]

yeah

[merry stirrup]

feel like those jewelry guys who mash the calculator after every question rn

yeah just do usps and we’ll pray they don’t kill the box

[pure garnet]

oh i mean i got like

giga buffed bubble wrap rn

[merry stirrup]

yo okay

[pure garnet]

my air filter from rock auto came with this like industrial strength bubble wrap

[merry stirrup]

oh ok epic i see this as a win

[merry stirrup]

2060 and 5700G boutta be supercharged

well i think it’s gonna end up being my quadro or the 6650xt

it’s going to be A gpu for sure

[pure garnet]

just leave the psu in eco mode

cuz the fan in non eco mode is silly

[merry stirrup]

well it’s the bench rig i don’t really care if it’s loud but yeah it draws 300w at most so prolly

bench/second pc

because my friends get mad at me when i overclock instead of video game

[pure garnet]

if ennui buys my 4070 then i'll be down to a 6700 xt side pc

[merry stirrup]

so when i overclock the daily i get the dismay of am4 gaming

[pure garnet]

i haven't powered up the bench setup in awhile

[merry stirrup]

capture card setup makes it more fun for me

don’t need to do any work i just plug in 2 things to the computer i want to use

[pure garnet]

i mean it's on my main monitor it's just like

im at a point with the 7800x3d where it feels more luck than skill

[merry stirrup]

well it is

[pure garnet]

but i also need to try a different os image

[merry stirrup]

just spam 10-15 runs on the same good settings in cold weather and pray one is fast

[pure garnet]

damn i got smoked (9800x3d)

[merry stirrup]

7800x3d is also a terrible benching chip

[merry stirrup]

yeah there’s some goons in here man

[pure garnet]

oh and he did it on stock windows

[merry stirrup]

who is it?

[pure garnet]

https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/y-cruncher_-_pi-1b/submissions/5699717

[merry stirrup]

oh lol

[turbid locust]

oh it’s black dot lol

dudes a wizard

[merry stirrup]

ain’t no way that stock windows btw

he lives in 2047 apparently

[pure garnet]

okay that's my fault

i saw "tool" as terraria

[merry stirrup]

blackdot is in fact a wizard

[turbid locust]

yeah not stock he’s 100% on some Wegg image

[merry stirrup]

LOL no it’s tool.exe

[tranquil finch]

does work Gsync and freesync on Adaptive sync monitor?
in OSD its labeled as G sync

[merry stirrup]

find out bro

[pure garnet]

freesync/gysnc compatible = adaptive sync
gsync hardware module (last seen in 2020 or so) = gsync only

[merry stirrup]

shout out my s2716dg

[pure garnet]

i feel like this chart has to be wrong

why does the 5060ti or 5060/5050 not work but the 650ti does

[merry stirrup]

i think it’s wrong ain’t no way

[pure garnet]

5060ti owners mogged by the ebay 650ti

damn that is cheap

[merry stirrup]

fire.

[cosmic gazelle]

also the 1630 exists and there’s no way it’s not just an iterated 1030

[merry stirrup]

budget gaming gem fs

[cosmic gazelle]

so they didn’t include that either lol

[merry stirrup]

it’s a 1650 but slower

[pure garnet]

i actually wanted to buy a 660ti when i was youngin to play fallout 4 on pc

[merry stirrup]

hey that would’ve been great tbh

[pure garnet]

but i was scared of psu swapping the compaq desktop

[merry stirrup]

my 1050 mobile laptop chills on fallout 4 tbh

[pure garnet]

yeah one of these

[topaz veldt]

I bought some stuff to get ShedBenchZone going

but I can't buy time, so I didn't get it setup

[pure garnet]

i love how cursed the oem motherboard was

[merry stirrup]

this will be cool

[pure garnet]

1dpc by chopping off half the slots

[merry stirrup]

man.

[topaz veldt]

it would be perfect today 🙁

it's 15 outside

[merry stirrup]

damn

[pure garnet]

that pc is why one of my fingers is permanently burned

[merry stirrup]

you touch a fet?

[pure garnet]

i ran the cpu without the heatsink then touched it with my finger to see how hot it was

[merry stirrup]

ah ok well

[spiral quarry]

👀

[pure garnet]

it was in fact pretty warm

[merry stirrup]

what temp was it

[pure garnet]

enough that skin peeled under the sink water

[merry stirrup]

probably like 6

[topaz veldt]

@merry stirrup have you seen/used this https://docs.pikvm.org/v3/

[green marsh]

not even in top 10 of cursed motherboard designs

[cosmic gazelle]

damn i just tested the DLSS M preset on tarkov and they weren't kidding about this running poorly on 30 series

i'm getting worse fps on quality than with dlss off entirely

[green marsh]

when stuff like this existed in past

[merry stirrup]

i saw it and my
problem is that it is generally as expensive as off the shelf solutions with a flashed firmware while looking much worse

[green marsh]

or stuff like this

[topaz veldt]

it seems to have some weird limitations also

[merry stirrup]

it seems that for our purposes they’re all a little wonky so kinda pick your poison

the solution i use is nice cause i don’t need to put it in a slot to use it but i have the option to, and it has good integration even with the custom more secure community firmware

[topaz veldt]

I just want a freaking CMOS reset jumper

[merry stirrup]

i’m sure the same custom firmware would allow the cmos reset to work somehow, i just don’t have the know how to talk to the i presume gpio of the system

[topaz veldt]

yeah thats why i was leaning raspi

I would hate to run a raspi separately just to reset cmos

[merry stirrup]

i assume it’s the same regardless though so i feel like you should just pick the best looking one

[leaden dawn]

Where's Mac at, I gotta tell him Photoshop 2025 works under WINE now lmao

[merry stirrup]

also my other issue with pikvm is that it was as expensive as way more polished solutions so

but that matters less

[topaz veldt]

which one are you using again

[merry stirrup]

god let me go like look

sipeed nano kvm pcie version

i have the fully juiced up one with poe and wifi and such

there’s nicer ones from the same brand (they’re identical) like with a case and such

[cosmic gazelle]

@merry stirrup wild headline

[topaz veldt]

ok cool - looking at this jetkvm now

[merry stirrup]

well it’s a 1650 that performs, well, worse than a 1650

[merry stirrup]

heard great things

was too expensive for me

[topaz veldt]

It looks like its $89

[merry stirrup]

yeah i got my nano KVM for half

[vestal granite]

I'm movin up fellas, I'm getting Amex Business ads now instead of Klarna ads

[merry stirrup]

well, i think like 65

there’s a terminal/serial console on the nano kvm im just not knowledgeable enough to do much with it

[edgy laurel]

briefly looked at this one only because Daves Garage did a video https://store-us.gl-inet.com/products/comet-pro-gl-rm10-remote-kvm-over-wi-fi-6

$180 though

[merry stirrup]

+the cost of the atx board

it also has to work for our purpose which is weird

we basically need to be able to control the jumpers ourselves or we need one that allows you to hold the reset button

[vestal granite]

is this gonna be another one of those things with a trillion vulnerabilities that I'm gonna see an article about a year from now

[merry stirrup]

because clearing a cmos over ip is our issue on consumer platforms

[vestal granite]

like nanokvm

[merry stirrup]

it has a trillion vulnerabilities, luckily there’s custom kvm firmware that generally works

[edgy laurel]

its not a unique or new thing, just one of tons of similar standalone remote access KVM's

[vestal granite]

ok that's good

[merry stirrup]

yah

[vestal granite]

unique and new things always have security issues

(fact)

[topaz veldt]

none of the IP KVMs really do reset/cmos

[merry stirrup]

mine does and it is almost ideal which is the saddest part

there’s a button to hold the power button

so you could just swap power and reset for your system

then you can reset cmos

but if your system fatally hangs you still can’t turn it off without holding the power button remotely

[topaz veldt]

is there a "power" and a "reset" header

[merry stirrup]

= no go

[topaz veldt]

right

[edgy laurel]

I've seen more custom/DIY ones that use Pi GPIO pins to passthrough case power/reset/CMOS

[merry stirrup]

yah

[topaz veldt]

yeah thats what i am thinking I will have to do Guilty

[turbid locust]

Roommate: “already some small furries outside”
Me: “uh what”
Roommate: “FLURRIES I MEANT FLURRIES.”

[merry stirrup]

and it works, until your computer freezes trying to do serious benching and you’re 15 miles away

[merry stirrup]

yeah, just never seen one with cmos clear capability

this looks like we’re probably going to be the first and the few people who use an ip kvm to remotely overclock

i’ve just been calling it ocKVM cause i mean that works

[edgy laurel]

this PiKVM has this "ATX" port but terminates to this

[edgy laurel]

so, in theory you could use any two-pin output to close a circuit could you not?

same as a power button

[merry stirrup]

100%

the issue is that on most boards you need to hold it closed

[edgy laurel]

this is true

[merry stirrup]

even for a couple seconds you still need to

[edgy laurel]

but in PiKVM world thats probably just a config tweak

[merry stirrup]

yeah, i just don’t know how, and i don’t have a pikvm lol

i have weird kvm solution then a normal one

[edgy laurel]

then you need an small CMOS camera piped into the KVM to just watch the postcode readout (or read the debug info from the appropriate pins directly)

[merry stirrup]

i fear that would be too much for the little soc in there

[edgy laurel]

then youd literally have everything youd need besides the ability to reseat hardware

[merry stirrup]

yeah which is perfect

and we’d be the first people to do it properly so that’s cool

[turbid locust]

wonder if you could just modify/solder wires to one of those mpower breakout boards

[edgy laurel]

its a problem of software at that point

[turbid locust]

I woke up in a new Bugatti 🗣️ 🔊

[edgy laurel]

Ok??? Do what??

[merry stirrup]

okay so i figured it out

[pure garnet]

buy as much milk eggs and bread as you can according to my state

[merry stirrup]

i’m gonna read up more on this but i should literally have to change 1 or 2 values then flash it

[edgy laurel]

as long as I don't lose power i'm chillin. i don't physically have to leave until maybe Tuesday

[edgy laurel]

Oooooh yeah whatever you wanna do is probably in there

[merry stirrup]

legit just have to change that line

i assume the 2nd value is the same 800 duration as is in the first file

[edgy laurel]

800ms dwell time

is what that Is?

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[edgy laurel]

neat

[merry stirrup]

so it’ll hold it there for 800ms. i should just have to change that value to 3000 or something and it should make reset 3 seconds long

[edgy laurel]

that sounds right

[merry stirrup]

the next problem

obtaining a board with clear cmos header in my daily

(i have to mod one onto the ocf)

but i can test it on the am4 machine

[edgy laurel]

can't just jump the pins for the button with a little basic soldering and some wire? or is that basically what you mean

[merry stirrup]

well i should keep looking at this code and see how they do the power hold function

cause they have a duration slider

[merry stirrup]

heah what i’m gonna do

that and jst header

[merry stirrup]

i continue forward

[edgy laurel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/spock-good-luck

[merry stirrup]

yeah i’m pretty stupid so we’ll see

if i can just copy paste the same duration logic but for reset that would be cool

[zenith apex]

Hardware prices so shit I switch hobby entirely

[woven adder]

Thats a new way of saying I'm poor

[zenith apex]

Right, not wanting to spend 1000 bucks on a worse GPU is now poor. (From a 3090)

[woven adder]

Do you like my sarcasm?

[zenith apex]

Search for: Poe's Law

[uneven vigil]

I like being poor. Can't take money with me to the grave 😄

[woven adder]

Ahhh

I have learned something new from you stranger

[livid flame]

Being rich just makes ya douche anyway

Very few people are humble with money

Just look at Elon Musk as the perfect example

[edgy laurel]

wild generalizations make you a douche anyway

[livid flame]

“I don’t like you or agree with you so imma buy your company”

[woven adder]

But being poor sucks too

[livid flame]

Oh it does

I like to think there’s a happy medium between not being able to afford everything you want and being able to buy everything you want

[edgy laurel]

pointless discussion point, rife with fallacies

"money makes you an asshole"

Well, no. Assholes are assholes. Assholes that happen to have money might just affect people differently.

low effort generalizing is dumb

[woven adder]

Or we can say that the extreme ends of both sucks

[livid flame]

Extreme ends suck for sure for both

[fervent chasm]

When you have less money it feels more of an accomplishment getting something imo
I’m not talking dirt poor

When I saved up for my first pc it felt better than it does now being able to just buy the parts because I have the money

[edgy laurel]

meanwhile, the person that worked hard for a significant portion of their lives to make the money they've made.. actually.. its not worth trying to explain how this way of thinking is flawed

carry on.. i guess

[livid flame]

Someone in the UK top 1% made a great point that because he’s the CEO and in the too 1%, he’s still a working man. That is very true.

Money does make people an asshole though, as much as not having money makes some people assholes.

[wraith steeple]

I remember when me and some family had to wait in fucking breadlines to get basic bullshit. I don't miss those days one bit ( ._.)

[livid flame]

That’s why I think there’s a happy medium for people.

[fervent chasm]

I’m obviously not talking about someone who would have to juggle money to survive and be able to purchase something

[frank cypress]

holy fuck

the 3090 guy actually sent a video

maybe it is just a misunderstanding

👀

[wraith steeple]

||Because dear leader of the old country thought it was a good idea to pull a Putin invasion and the economy took a shit, healthcare collapsed, sanctions galore, and was basically what caused the slow demise of the regime||

Anyways

Computers and Tech is rad

[topaz veldt]

You have just concluded that any person can be an asshole, it only makes you feel more justified by saying "the person with money" is an asshole as it helps justify your perspective to differentiate from what is an otherwise equal to you.

Any person can be, and is, at times, an asshole - qualifying their wealth as some sort of binary indicator that gives you the "ha, see!" attribute just shows that the person making this consideration is also very likely the same exact type of asshole but they feel justified because, well, they don't have as much money as the real asshole.

[merry stirrup]

well it is in theory done

i gotta wait until i’m home to flash it

@topaz veldt if this works do you want the fw

[brave panther]

please send

[merry stirrup]

gotta do maintenance on the gfs pc before i go

[brave panther]

uhm, isnt 30 series supposed to have 12vhpwr

[merry stirrup]

what nah

just the FE cards of that

[brave panther]

ah ok

[pallid marsh]

This must be before they removed the vram

[frank cypress]

and those only have 12 pins

[merry stirrup]

yeah it’s a weird version of it

[frank cypress]

lmao i was just sus if they even had the card but the video seems legit

huh, i guess they might've really did write a new timestamp for every listing photo

[pallid marsh]

Moving up from 2080tis ?!

[frank cypress]

i already had better for a while xd

[pallid marsh]

But your stock pile of 2080tis

[frank cypress]

i still have 2 working ones

[brave panther]

what is that monitor brand

[frank cypress]

i had the same thought but the desktop looks legit

[lucid gate]

AI generated video maybe

[frank cypress]

i mean i might just gamble it if they'll take paypal G&S

[merry stirrup]

it does have the really weird shimmer effect idk

[frank cypress]

since paypal usually (like, 95% of the time) sides with the buyer

[merry stirrup]

homie on to something

[brave panther]

and what are those icons anyway, anyone recognise programs

[lucid gate]

I was memeing, but after looking at it again it looks off

[brave panther]

you should have seen last photos how sus they were

[lucid gate]

But the dxdiag tool looks fine

[merry stirrup]

yeah tbh i’m not completely sure

yeah dxdiag looks fine so

[brave panther]

hmm

[frank cypress]

actually no this is so weirdd

yeah this might be ai

[lucid gate]

The X in RTX is broken

[merry stirrup]

that’s what i’m sayin

[frank cypress]

this looks so weird, like that's not camera motion blur

that looks like ai fucking it up during movement

and the fan on the bottom of the case looks all fucked up

[brave panther]

just go frame by frame, every single frame there is a diffrent icon looks

[merry stirrup]

could be like automatic upscaling though

[merry stirrup]

from his phone

[frank cypress]

ai hallucainating these icons?

[frank cypress]

yeah i was thinking that too but

[merry stirrup]

the icons look familiar but idk

[frank cypress]

idk i have really weird vibes

[brave panther]

these and taskbar ones

[merry stirrup]

task bar isn’t savable imo it’s pretty bad

[frank cypress]

i think im really sus of the brand on the monitor too, that you mentioned

[fervent scaffold]

So I built a PC for a friend that doesnt know much, and he didnt grab a gpu. His choices are 9070xt or 5070 non ti. I know the xt is more powerful with more vram. Is there a reason besides those to pick the xt? I haven’t used any amd gpus so i have no idea

[frank cypress]

cause that was the second thing i noticed, right after the fan

[merry stirrup]

the initial image is real

i don’t think the movement is

idk man

[frank cypress]

i'm just surprised cause the text on the gpu diagnostic looks right

[merry stirrup]

yeah i mean that says 3090

[frank cypress]

which is just kinda shocking to me

[merry stirrup]

why i’m leaning toward upscaling of sorts?

[pallid marsh]

They both have the same ray tracing performance but the xt has 5070ti raster performance. Overall the XT is better

[fervent scaffold]

Im thinking in terms of ease of use too, like is nvidias software better than amds for drivers n stuff?

[pallid marsh]

I personally own a rx 9070xt

[brave panther]

i dont use those tools but maybe you can set start frame and end frame yourself

[frank cypress]

idk, the fan and the heatsink looks so weird, not to mention the text on the bottom of the monitor

[pallid marsh]

Nvidia had a real tough time with drivers during the first few months of the new rtx 50 series xD

[fervent scaffold]

I want him to get the 9070xt but havnt told him yet because hes not the brightest when it comes to software lol. Just wants to game

[frank cypress]

y'know what, maybe i should just play it safe and just buy kyoko's 4070

[fervent scaffold]

Both the 5070 and 9070xt will do a lot more than he wants too

[merry stirrup]

yeah being scammed kinda blows

[frank cypress]

i think it's just not worth the hassle, even if i do get my money back from paypal

[fervent scaffold]

I also haven’t had any bad experiences really with my 5070ti

[wise bear]

omg it onwee

[frank cypress]

something just doesn't feel right here

[merry stirrup]

yah

[frank cypress]

yo

[merry stirrup]

the gfs dusty computer

[hoary hatch]

TIL I need a long ass socket to change my car battery

(or longer arms. These were easier to acquire than longer arms)

[merry stirrup]

no balls

[brave panther]

boss what happened to the x button

[frank cypress]

yeah.....

[cosmic gazelle]

wait i’m out of the loop, is hwswap full of ai scams now, or is it just a handful of posts?

[pallid marsh]

They both have good easy to use software

[frank cypress]

i think i'll just buy kyoko gpu

[frank cypress]

CHWS

[merry stirrup]

kyoko is also ai generated

[pallid marsh]

But only 12gb vram

[frank cypress]

i'm sussing out this guy's 3090

[frank cypress]

it's fine, it's for the 5950x pc

i still have the 4000 ada SFF for the 13900ks machine

[merry stirrup]

yooo second pc needers unite

[cosmic gazelle]

what is that

what’s the c stand for

[frank cypress]

i just want something better to sit on than 2080tis for the rest of the shortage

[pallid marsh]

Canada

[cosmic gazelle]

ohh

[frank cypress]

canada

[brave panther]

can you maybe ID the case? to me it looks like corsair one

[merry stirrup]

it’s a 4000D

[frank cypress]

that has a bottom fan?

[merry stirrup]

it was a 4000D

[merry stirrup]

it’s gotta be ai

[frank cypress]

idk, i just messaged him and said i'm going with someone else's gpu cause they're cutting me a really good deal

cause it's not worth getting scammed and having to dispute it if it is fake

and the vibes are just..... bad

[brave panther]

to me it looks bit older, as those are triangles and not those rounded triangles corsair uses now

[merry stirrup]

corsair didn’t use rounded ones, the 4000D is from like 2019

look at the bottom panel, that’s identical

[wraith steeple]

This case is 7 years old?!

Duuuuuuuuuuhuhuhude

[merry stirrup]

i’m so confident in it because i had one so like im pretty sure

[wraith steeple]

[merry stirrup]

unless there’s another corsair case that uses the exact same psu basement molding

[brave panther]

yea fuck that that fan is fake af

[merry stirrup]

yeah it’s ai

[pallid marsh]

Also fan is wonky

[merry stirrup]

it’s a real initial image

of a 3090 in a 4000D

[frank cypress]

i think so too

[brave panther]

real initial image + edited in hand + real end image (or just dx info screenshot reference)

[merry stirrup]

i think so

old photo edited then sent thru ai

edited because the timestamp surely isn’t accurate

[lucid gate]

These scams are getting really sophisticated

[frank cypress]

but yeah, i don't think i'll go for it, i'll just trust our guts

it's not walkin the walk

[lucid gate]

Is it not local?

Maybe someone local can try and collect

[frank cypress]

no, if it was local id just show up and pick it up lol

[lucid gate]

How much was it listed for?

[frank cypress]

850, they were like "i can work with that" to my lowk lowball of 700 (this is cad btw)

[lucid gate]

PayPals buyer protection is pretty strong

[merry stirrup]

it could very much be real with him not wanting to make more verification photos

you feel?

[frank cypress]

yeah, but idk, i just feel very sus about the whole matter

[merry stirrup]

but he also could’ve taken the vram and core lol

[lucid gate]

Its way more effort to fake a video than make a video

[frank cypress]

idk i just think the whole situtation stinks

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[brave panther]

imagine being so lazy

[turbid locust]

Nobody in their right mind wouldn’t take a 4 second video to make money

[frank cypress]

better to miss one than get scammed out of a good chunk of money

[merry stirrup]

bro i have an insane story for you

[pallid marsh]

The RGB CPU fan just has a random grey square on it that doesn't move

[edgy laurel]

if you're in the car world you probably heard of this story for this auction that went up on bring a trailer this past week. Needless to say, it got pulled down due to, um, clear evidence of wonky AI manipulation in the photos. How the hell did someone not catch this. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-cadillac-deville-21/

[merry stirrup]

when i was buying my gtx 1080 i asked for photos of it in a system new or old and the guy simply wouldn’t

[brave panther]

what did mods say?

[frank cypress]

they said just trust your gut instinct and to use PP g&s

[merry stirrup]

he basically said something like
“i have no reason to sell it to you if you don’t trust me so take it or leave it”

[turbid locust]

FIRE

[merry stirrup]

so i begged my mom to drive me 2 hours (16 i think) to get a gpu

that i was overpaying for and didn’t know if it worked

[turbid locust]

I made a dude record a video of a 1080 running furmark before I gave em $100 for it lmao

[merry stirrup]

he was an asshole it was during the gpu shortage

[brave panther]

crypto miners were crazy back then

[merry stirrup]

it was like 180$

1080 strix