tech-chat-2

[pure garnet]

a 13700k with e cores disabled is enough of a wow that im not worried about the loss in multi core perf

[shell void]

or even better 6K240 but that's probably a pipe dream

[edgy laurel]

6K 240 w/ DLSS UP

[shell void]

it's extremely frustrating to me that Samsung is putting out 32" 6K 165Hz LCD monitors this year, and is fully capable of mass-producing 32" 6K QD-OLED panels, but chooses not to

[hoary hatch]

He wants me to go back and do a more medical exam for my eyes so I guess I gotta schedule that now

[edgy laurel]

what would be the upscale res with that anyway, not doing the math

[shell void]

i tried that with Model L the other day and i was impressed

[pure garnet]

making sure my ancient copy of aspire is pinned to the p cores is more effort than just blanket disabling cores they didn't know existed

[edgy laurel]

💪

[topaz veldt]

My buddy who is SUPER picky about image quality/speed in Warzone told me today that he finally left Infinity CAS and went DLSS

[edgy laurel]

holy

[topaz veldt]

to his defense Warzone had streaking for birds and shit

[odd sable]

Does it have issues with the e-cores?

[pure garnet]

it only scales with single core perf

there's no gpu accel or multi core benefit, so i just never checked

[shell void]

obviously ultra performance is softer looking, but i could totally play UP with DLSS 4.5 if i just didnt think about it and just played the game

it's very impressive how much theyre able to extract from 720p render

with the new model L

[edgy laurel]

what is the input res at 6K with UP?

[topaz veldt]

we're gonna be watching 480p content tonight 🙁

[pure garnet]

dvd?

[shell void]

2005x1128p or thereabouts

[topaz veldt]

i think so

its How It's Made episodes

[edgy laurel]

play it back through MPC-HC and enjoy

[topaz veldt]

its gonna be on plex g4 app

[edgy laurel]

ugh

[topaz veldt]

sry

[edgy laurel]

oh wow. really makes you realize how big 6K is lol

[wraith steeple]

[pure garnet]

yeah “ultra performance” having more input res than 1080p native is funny

[shell void]

roughly 2.5x as many pixels as 4K

[topaz veldt]

RTX Pro 6000 is small right?

[edgy laurel]

5090FE size

[ripe needle]

Hello guys

[shell void]

hello chase

[topaz veldt]

cool so it'd fit in NCase M3

[ripe needle]

What's up Michael

Ram prices am I right?

[edgy laurel]

yeah, same as this card dimension wise https://ncased.com/cdn/shop/videos/c/vp/3e18089b8660430b88e070736357ed32/3e18089b8660430b88e070736357ed32.HD-720p-1.6Mbps-51288395.mp4?v=0

[topaz veldt]

Maybe 9950X3D + Pro 6000 SFF?

9850X3D in main rig

[edgy laurel]

just if you call, what that animation is conveniently not showing is the hot air coming out of the GPU

and blowing it directly into that CPU cooler

[shell void]

naturally you have to disassemble the P6000 and replace its toothpaste with PTM7950

[topaz veldt]

i have reverse flow

[shell void]

nvidia in their infinite wisdom used LM for the 5090FE but not the P6000

[edgy laurel]

don't actually do it though

[topaz veldt]

rear intake is so much nicer

[shell void]

though the backside vram is what gets baked in that card

[pure garnet]

in the gpu up top in normal use?

[topaz veldt]

do what

[edgy laurel]

buy that card

[topaz veldt]

grr

[shell void]

if you run it at stock clocks then it's like ~13% more powerful than a 5090FE, or the same as a 5090 Master/Matrix xd

(in games)

[edgy laurel]

it'll be cool and all to oogle at for a day but then you'll realize you bought a loud, hot, triple the price 5090 with 3x as much VRAM as youhave a use for

i'm right

not what you want in an SFF box

[topaz veldt]

but i could run Comfy UI and make weird AI images

[shell void]

iirc mark runs his two p6000s at 300w apiece

their vbios lets you drop it down to 300W instead of 400W like a 5090

[topaz veldt]

I want to convert this box of memory into GPUs

[shell void]

you need a msi lightning z 5090

two power connectors, 360mm aio, and 1000w vbios on it

(you dont need this)

[wraith steeple]

This gen isn't doing it for me NGL

[hoary hatch]

Oopsie

[topaz veldt]

I won't buy an AIO gpu

[hoary hatch]

An Intel CPU failed in one of our tools which cost Intel foundry excessive down time

[shell void]

bykski and optimus do have rtx pro 6000 waterblocks

you could be funny and daily a watercooled pro 6000 in your main rig if you wanted to

[topaz veldt]

i don't think I'd do that

if I did the Pro 6000 it'd be air

my only air builds are the one family room PC and the SFF

[shell void]

i dont have any air cooled desktops atm

my 9800x3d, 14900k, and 10900f are running with AIOs

[wraith steeple]

All the best looking blocks this gen are either not available (and on top of that a hefty import fee I would imagine, Sorry Roman maybe next time), one is only for the EU market, or is fugly looking and even that hasn't seen much inventory

[topaz veldt]

I have a spare EK block 🙂

[hoary hatch]

Router, server, gf's desktop - air cooled
Personal desktop, second personal desktop, roommate desktop - AIO

[topaz veldt]

2 custom looped PCs is enough lol

[odd sable]

do you use any AIOs?

[topaz veldt]

only on my family room pc CPU only

[low sorrel]

@brisk jolt am i ready to go pro?

[pure garnet]

wtf is shooting error degrees

also damn that 3060 is struggling 😭

[topaz veldt]

jerry gets his moneys worth out of that gpu

[low sorrel]

it's because it's recording at 4k

[pure garnet]

but nobody plays valorant at 4k remember

that guy told us last night

[low sorrel]

it chills at my fps cap in game

[odd sable]

probably diff between what it looks like you are doing, and what the server actually acknowledges

[low sorrel]

my 3060 everytime i ask it to play at 4k:

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

[topaz veldt]

lol

[low sorrel]

oh it's just your bullet inaccuracy

[odd sable]

just ask a 1080ti to do it

[oak vector]

My 4060ti 8gb watching me play 1440p ultra on every game I load up on the first run

[shell void]

you gotta cop a 5070 while theyre still stocked for msrp

[odd sable]

https://tenor.com/view/into-the-wild-we-can-do-that-yeah-yes-yea-gif-13682528861761891629

[low sorrel]

same guy who is 2.8k elo faceit?

[pure garnet]

yeah

[low sorrel]

never

[brisk jolt]

No, you need a shitty 12th gen i3 and an even more fuckass GPU- Listen to the guy yesterday yapping about how he was top 50 in valorant and 2.8k faceit in CS overcomplicating a nonexistent problem over his OS! Also stop playing in 4K!!! nobody plays in fukass 4K, u gotta be hitting 1080p or even 720p!

[odd sable]

you mean 5070ti, right?

[pure garnet]

he tried to tell me that 4k 4x msaa was cpu bound and then that nobody uses 4k and my rank makes my fps lower

[edgy laurel]

ltt video today felt a little like an internal HR/ownership address to the employees at the end, was a little weird

[odd sable]

im sorry, what now?

[pure garnet]

we had a guy last night ask why windows 10 vs 11 had 8ms difference in input delay

[brisk jolt]

“dude you have a 9800x3d/9950x3d”

as if a 7500F cant get 1000 FPS on valorant

[shell void]

5070ti would be better, but jerry already doesnt want to spend $550

[pure garnet]

then i called os gaming tweaks snake oil and it devolved to nonsense

[low sorrel]

.

[edgy laurel]

ugh

i just went to bed, that convo was dumb af

[pure garnet]

it got dumber dude

then jerry came out with the receipts that he was just lying

[brisk jolt]

the other guy was being a useless 3rd party

[shell void]

i was playing Valorant and CSGO at 4K on my GTX 1070 :p

[edgy laurel]

i musta left before jerry even got involved lol

[brisk jolt]

jerry left him broken

[odd sable]

like, half a frame 8ms?

[brisk jolt]

all his arguments were buried 12ft under

[frank cypress]

4070 for 450 cad yay or nay?

[low sorrel]

yes

[frank cypress]

only 12gb of vram but.... its a lot more modern than the turding

[brisk jolt]

funny thing is he was already getting 400 FPS on a 144hz monitor and he wanted to get more for whatever reason and complained about latency lmfao

[odd sable]

how much is a 9070xt?

[uncut light]

just download more vram if you want more

[low sorrel]

i found this on craiglist a while back https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/sop/d/surrey-east-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti/7906165396.html

[frank cypress]

not cheap

[edgy laurel]

at least he was using official ISO's and not those weird 3rd party hacked up Windows builds like AtlasOS and Ghost Spectre

[frank cypress]

never responded

I messaged them when it went up

[odd sable]

for latency, the real move is to pester game devs enough to have the game designed around low input latency

[brisk jolt]

can you get a better card ur 3060 is like a miata contending for 24hrs lemans

[frank cypress]

radeon cards in general here are strangely expensive

[odd sable]

surprisingly, a lot of GPU work for a frame can actually be done before polling inputs

[frank cypress]

in terms of the used market

[brisk jolt]

Whatever they were doing was complete bullshit

[odd sable]

not the whole frame, obviously, but a non-zero amount

[uncut light]

i got my 9070xt for 600 usd but that was back in november

[odd sable]

but you can start the shadow and animation updates before polling input

[frank cypress]

ITS IN NANAIMO????

nooooooooo

[odd sable]

and if you purposely dont run a frame or two ahead, then you can get the engine latency down even further

[low sorrel]

ferry ferry ferry ferry ferry

[topaz veldt]

should i get a 5060 ti 16 gb

[odd sable]

most games run a frame (or two) ahead, because it gets better throughput, but adds a frame or two of latency

[frank cypress]

fuck no fuck no fick no fuck no

[frank cypress]

absolutely

before they stop producing it

[shell void]

5060Ti 16GB seems like the ideal SFF HTPC gpu

[low sorrel]

so cheap so cheap so cheap

[odd sable]

can i get some explanation?

[low sorrel]

island

[frank cypress]

4070 for 450 cad

[hoary hatch]

My friend just got one for free by putting a 3070 in the box and returning it to Amazon

[frank cypress]

but its on the island

[uncut light]

LMAO nice

[odd sable]

is that a good price?

[low sorrel]

i also saw a 4080 super for 1000 yesterday

[odd sable]

how much of a problem is that?

[low sorrel]

300 bucks give or take

[frank cypress]

pretty decent

[odd sable]

thats not what i asked

[low sorrel]

2 hr ferry each way

[frank cypress]

its pretty far, ive never even been to the island

[low sorrel]

• like 30 minutes of waiting beforehand

[frank cypress]

also assuming you dont get fucked by traffic

[low sorrel]

go car less

oh you mean otw there

[odd sable]

this is (North) America, one does not simply exist outside of a car

[uncut light]

if i send a video of like a concern i have with my pc here instead of the tech support thread will the mods blow me up

[frank cypress]

yes...

[uncut light]

wtf is a walkable city 🦅 🇲🇾 🇲🇾

[edgy laurel]

no, but openly admitting you're posting in the wrong place will probably get it ignored by everyone here

[low sorrel]

the duality of marketplace sellers

[uncut light]

fair enough

[odd sable]

now you're thinking like an american

[low sorrel]

oh if you have a car you have to come like 2 hours early to the port

[brisk jolt]

at this rate u gon be looking at 60 series

[low sorrel]

@frank cypress i found what you need

[oak vector]

I didn’t even get it in the mug
I just poured it on the bench bro 😔

Today will be a long day.

[uncut light]

vegemite mug goes hard

[oak vector]

It really does
Lowkey I get upset if I can’t have my coffee with it

[random flame]

Waiwaiwaiwait, what did I miss last night?

[fringe vigil]

where u

work?

[brisk jolt]

some guy came in lying about his valorant rank and faceit elo and yapping about some OS stuff being fps and latency

he got hard exposed by jerry

[random flame]

Got a link to that conversation? I might've missed it and now I feel suddenly drawn to see what stupid thing Jerry exposed.

[brisk jolt]

some guy who was meatriding him also suddenly became quiet lmfao

[brisk jolt]

#tech-chat-2 message

[edgy laurel]

truly starts here #tech-chat-2 message

[cosmic gazelle]

I’ve never see someone say they could notice 8ms of latency before

clearly never played escape from tarkov and been in an active gunfight when a 1.5 second stutter happens

[pallid marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yteN21aJEvE oh the only good card is not being made apparently

and 5060ti 16gb

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/mclaren-disastercals-gif-3549840301773162905

[hoary hatch]

You're 10 hours late

[hoary hatch]

F1 is lame

[pallid marsh]

I was asleep 10 hours ago

[uncut light]

invest everything in intel gpus

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/theburntpeanut-burntpeanut-peanut-twitch-bungulator-gif-10554426784291235770

[hoary hatch]

Are you depressed

[pallid marsh]

Yes but I have a weird sleep schedule

[topaz veldt]

F1 doesn't use my P Cores

[pallid marsh]

https://youtu.be/rjN0lz0SySw?si=TQeA7yebQyv7RXNS but they have cool tech

[brisk jolt]

i dont watch it at all I only use the DNF gifs

[hoary hatch]

Oh the cars and engineering is sick

I just find the racing aspect to be boring and I don't care about the drivers at all

[pallid marsh]

same

[topaz veldt]

https://x.com/ValaAfshar/status/2011803009856979452?s=20

Vala Afshar (@ValaAfshar)

He was invited to give a speech at a high school for Language Week, and he delivered the entire speech in Gen Alpha slang.

X · Jan 15, 2026, 2:09 PM

[low sorrel]

@edgy laurel https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/saf-sec-sur/2/ccarcs-riacc/ADet.aspx?id=529208&rfr=RchSimp.aspx

apparently a plane has been registered to the LMG address

[pallid marsh]

shit plane

[low sorrel]

tri jet smh

[edgy laurel]

the reg is private

oh wait

OH

[low sorrel]

did you have a jerry moment

[edgy laurel]

Influence Air

[topaz veldt]

oh god

[edgy laurel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_Falcon_900

[topaz veldt]

That plane looks dorky AF

[low sorrel]

all i know is that dassualt makes the mirage and the rafale

[pallid marsh]

an extra jet to maintain smh

[edgy laurel]

i wonder if this is like Cleetus's "private jet" that sits at his racetrack and willnever fly

but where would LMG put it lmao

[topaz veldt]

For sale: French plane - flown once never fired

[random flame]

D a y u m

[brisk jolt]

I prefer WEC over F1

[topaz veldt]

I prefer watching my cats race to the automatic food dispenser when it drops

[random flame]

It took quite the amount of scrolling just to get to the part where Jerry even entered that entire conversation.

Also, who the hell needs so many flipping alts for Val?

[low sorrel]

because he's bullshitting

[random flame]

Saying this as a guy who only sees this justification for MC btw. Lol.

It's definitely a thing when you've experienced anarchy players.

[low sorrel]

he probably just copied the top results from if you search t0ken on valorant tracker

[random flame]

Way too similar, maaan.
I've once known a guy who could lie better than this and technically that kid sucked at keeping it up too.

[brisk jolt]

I literally came in and said “How do we really know if this guy is really what he makes out to be”
Something along the lines of that prob less complicated

Then he kept insisting on his lies and the other guy was meatriding him so hard calling me a ragebaiter

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/i-understand-nothing-gif-18894747

Max leveled Arc...so back to this slop

[low sorrel]

did you compelete the expedition

so is this why tomb raider was feeling hella weird when i started it?

[topaz veldt]

yes

[uncut light]

should i sell my 9070xt and get a cheaper card i dont really play any new games (the most intense games i play are bg3 and cyberpunk but even then its not regularly)

[cosmic gazelle]

ngl i did the first arc expedition and everything got so boring after that

[cosmic gazelle]

why would you lose money selling secondhand when you could just keep it and not have to upgrade for several years

[uncut light]

thats true

[hexed musk]

Im new to this water cooling stuff. Did i do it right?

[cosmic gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

[uncut light]

ive seen that somewhere before

[pallid marsh]

it needs to be flowing water

[cosmic gazelle]

it’s like this meme

1. “haha water cooling it’ll run cooler now”
2. “noooo your gpu is dead”
3. “just let it dry it’s fine”

[hexed musk]

Gonna set this infront of my fan for 2 days and hope it works after

[cosmic gazelle]

not really any reason why it shouldn’t

[hexed musk]

Yeah

Even if i loose it its only a gts 450

[cosmic gazelle]

why are you putting that much effort into a gts 450 brah

[hexed musk]

Idk

[topaz veldt]

after playing BF6 and Arc, back on Warzone I forgot how spicy it is

[cosmic gazelle]

Also there’s no way it was having cooling issues when it had that kind of heatsink

i have a single fan gt 630 and it hits like 60c when I drag the memory slider all the way to the right

[hexed musk]

It ran at like 60c max load lmfao

[cosmic gazelle]

i’ve never had another card where fps scales 1:1 with memory frequency 😭

ddr3 for ya

[hexed musk]

Fr

[uncut light]

what should i do with my old gtx 1660

[cosmic gazelle]

it’s honestly not horrendous, will play borderlands 2 and fortnite better than a lot of intel igpus

[cosmic gazelle]

ebay auction starting at 99 cents on sunday night for 7 days

[uncut light]

you know what hell yeah

[cosmic gazelle]

i have sold so many components that way

gets good $$

[uncut light]

i think i have that same exact fan

[cosmic gazelle]

this is all recent

[uncut light]

woah

[hexed musk]

Keep it as a backup

[cosmic gazelle]

the strat is listing for 99 cents on thursday at 5:30 pm for 10 days

[hexed musk]

Or do what i do

[uncut light]

damn instead of a money spread u did a gpu spread i respect that

[cosmic gazelle]

i know a damn gt 710 when i see one

[hexed musk]

Gt 1030

[cosmic gazelle]

and what a vega 64?

gtx 780?

[cosmic gazelle]

why

[hexed musk]

Dell optiplex

[pallid marsh]

someone spent $212 usd on a 12700?!

[cosmic gazelle]

that’s actually pretty par for the course on ebay lately

bout $200 average

[pallid marsh]

i remember just a few months ago during prime day the i5 14600kf was $160

[cosmic gazelle]

12700kf is worth less because of the TDP, small time data centers love 12700s

[pallid marsh]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu/#k=40&sort=price&page=1 new lga 1700 cpus prices are too damn high

[cosmic gazelle]

i have a friend who works for a small financial firm that threw all their desktops out. She gave me a ultra 7 265 / 4060 ti system for free

sold it for $900 to a buddy and got a 9800x3d

the 12700 was from the same lot of pcs

they didn’t realize how much they were throwing out

[uncut light]

circling back to this i just dont know if ill buy any newer games that need like a crazy beefy graphics card + im thinking if i do sell it ill put some leftover money into helping with my gfs setup that she wants to start

but also idk im employed ill get that money eventually if i dont sell

[cosmic gazelle]

🤷‍♂️ feel like the amount you’d be pocketing after fees or undercutting to sell it would not be worth the effort

especially considering how restrictive vram prices are about to be

[radiant gale]

Does every motherboard have ez debug lights?

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean think about it, RDR2 used to require a 2080 ti to run on ultra and now a 2080 ti can barely run battlefield at 60fps

[cosmic gazelle]

low end ones often do not

[brisk jolt]

nice battery

[radiant gale]

I mean i don’t think it’s low end I just can’t find em and im not getting any display, thanks on the battery i like to run er low lol

[cosmic gazelle]

debug lights kinda lose their utility once you’ve experienced each faulty component’s symptoms enough times

what are you experiencing

[oak vector]

Home

[radiant gale]

Well I just put everything together, Its been a few years so im a bit rusty but when I turned it on everything started running light normal but I’m not getting any display. Best case scenario would be the hdmi to dp cable I’m using doesn’t work. Other than that idk what it could be

[oak vector]

We love Australian trucks..

[cosmic gazelle]

amd systems can sometimes memory train for like, 5 minutes

how long have you left it on for

[radiant gale]

Not very long maybe 2-3 minutes, but I also plugged the cord into my laptop and didn’t get a display on my monitor either. Which leds me to believe it’s definitely the cable but just for peace of mind I was hoping someone could see the debug lights on MB cause I sure can’t find em

[edgy laurel]

if they exist, it takes about 2 seconds to point them out from the manual

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean unless you’ve literally plugged a cable into the wrong header, there’s not a ton to get wrong if you’ve done it before, which it sounds like you have

probably just need a decent cable

[edgy laurel]

man, i didn't think anyone bought the B650i Lightning. the ONLY AM5 desktop board that defied AMD's mandate for USB BIOS flashback functionality

[cosmic gazelle]

does anybody use that? or is it mainly for if you buy a newer cpu?

[edgy laurel]

does not have debug LED's

[edgy laurel]

its a basic function most enthusiasts use, especially when you take the board out of the box for the first time.

I've flashed my board 15 times with flashback

[cosmic gazelle]

well i’m lazy and microcenter did it for me

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-the-creation-tyler-the-creator-child-kid-son-gif-8121086759220539515

[cosmic gazelle]

yall are out here flashing your bios if you don’t experience a major bug

[edgy laurel]

B650/X670 is pretty old at this point, relatively. Need to make sure its on a recent BIOS

[edgy laurel]

no, but when you buy a new platform on day one of release, BIOS updates come multiple times a week and constantly fix issues

B650/X670 came out in late 2022

and absolutely need an update to support Ryzen 9000

[radiant gale]

I only got the ryzen 7 9800xd do I need to still update it?

[cosmic gazelle]

i’ve never bought a day 1 platform so i guess i’ve never needed to lol

[radiant gale]

X3d*

[edgy laurel]

if its a launch B650 on an old bios, probably. trouble is, you can't because #tech-chat-2 message

if it was bought recently (oof, would have suggested a different board) then you'd hope its been updated but you'll never know for sure

[cosmic gazelle]

if it was old stock then it’s possible that it wasn’t

[radiant gale]

How would I find out?

[cosmic gazelle]

you can just get a 8400f or something and boot off of that and then return it once you’ve updated

if you wanna go that route

[edgy laurel]

if its really old,8400f wouldn't be a good idea either

as there were updates to support ryzen 8000 too

[cosmic gazelle]

would 7600x be the cheapest then?

[edgy laurel]

cheapest? i dunno 7400f?

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean it doesn’t REALLY matter if you’re returning anyways

but might as well go cheapest

[radiant gale]

So I buy that, update bios, put 9800 back in and good to go?

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean buy a cable too lol

[radiant gale]

😂

[edgy laurel]

only if thats the problem

[radiant gale]

If the cable works and everything ends up running fine then should I still update it?

[cosmic gazelle]

his laptop wouldn’t display with it, sounds like a bad cable to me

[cosmic gazelle]

probably wouldn’t matter but it won’t hurt

[edgy laurel]

if it boots on ryzen 9000 its probably ok but you really want to be on the absolutely latest BIOS with Asrock + Ryzen 9000 anyway

if you're not aware, we've been dealing with Asrock boards killing Ryzen 9000 for the last year. mostlly 800 series boards but not all

[edgy laurel]

absolute best CPU and bargain basement potential ticking timebomb board is not really where I'd want to be but you do you

[radiant gale]

Okay cool, it does have a sticker on box that says it works with ryzen 7 if that matters. If it boots can I still update with my current cpu or do I have to buy that 7400f to update still

[edgy laurel]

well of course it does, its the only board line that launched with ryzen 7000

in 2022

[radiant gale]

I mean I didn’t know it was a bad board tbh

What would you recommend for a matx board?

[cosmic gazelle]

erm 9850x3d 🤓

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-cube-nerdcube-gif-25277654

[edgy laurel]

i shouldn't need to have put "for gaming"

it was implied

[radiant gale]

You’d probably hate my build even more if you saw the rest of it

[cosmic gazelle]

naw 9850 gang

not 9950

get with the times

[dusty lotus]

absolute top cpu you can buy now is the core ultra 3 205 which doesnt exist

[cosmic gazelle]

ultra 1 -456

[brisk jolt]

9950x3d pbo would still have the edge

[radiant gale]

It’s saying online if I can’t update bios I can manually lower pbo limits and VSOC voltage. Does that check with yall?

[cosmic gazelle]

eh gaming can be finicky on the 9950 selecting the correct CCD and all

[dusty lotus]

there is a techpowerup site for the 205 but it doesnt exist at all on the intels website

[cosmic gazelle]

what would one of those have to do w the. other

[radiant gale]

Idk that’s why I’m asking the experts

I’m just a gamer

[cosmic gazelle]

this thing always intrigued me

[cosmic gazelle]

if they’re saying to lower pbo limits to avoid frying your VRMs then maybe but it won’t have any effect on not being able to update bios

[dusty lotus]

thats just the successor of pentiums and celerons now in one even name

[brisk jolt]

9950x3d with CCD1 disabled does 5.7g

[dusty lotus]

never seen a 300 in the wild though

[brisk jolt]

some PBO would easily let it reach 5.8+

[dusty lotus]

who tf buys these

not even oem systems got these

[shell void]

cash register and ATM cpus

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah but then you bought a $700 cpu to make it the same as a $400 cpu with an overclock lmao

[radiant gale]

I guess the reason it was frying cpus is the originally bios was to aggressive and if you can’t update your bios you can manually lower it to fix the issue

[cosmic gazelle]

naw bruh those run new gen atoms

[brisk jolt]

it still performs as well with ccd1 enabled

[cosmic gazelle]

they’re still making atoms

[cosmic gazelle]

i’m saying you’re effectively just making it a 9800 that runs at 5.7

[dusty lotus]

i would lowkenuienly buy one to put in a cheap h610 with like dual channel 8gb of ddr4 just to see how that thing performs

i would expect it in a pc for an old couple or something

[cosmic gazelle]

https://youtu.be/vxKLrGmhf2c?si=rICZJPbK-HwSUIn6 save yourself the stress, it’s not great lol

[brisk jolt]

i think with PBO it can do 5.9 just not consistently

9800x3d PBO 200 will maintain 5425

[cosmic gazelle]

and consume what, 250 watts lmao

the 9950 i mean

[brisk jolt]

yeah from what ur saying Im gonna infer that you have no idea what ur talking around

[dusty lotus]

intel prodeessor

[cosmic gazelle]

i’m mostly rage baiting because buying a 9950 over a 9800 solely for the gaming performance makes objectively no sense

[brisk jolt]

nobody really buys a 9950 for pure gaming

[coral tartan]

Best one so ofc

[brisk jolt]

either they’re just minmaxxing or need more cores

[cosmic gazelle]

also i feel like it’s telling that reviewers all use 9800s when they all have 9950s

[dusty lotus]

i bought a 14700k a while back and instead of people praising my purchase they tend to be negative and asking the same thing over and over “why not amd”

[oblique sigil]

Current state of my rack…

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean if the price to performance is right

the microcenter 265k bundle is actually a wonderful value

[devout ridge]

i mean, why not amd?

[coral tartan]

Because a 7600x is apparently better than a 14900ks

[cosmic gazelle]

eh

[dusty lotus]

“because bread taste better than key” ahh sentence

[cosmic gazelle]

i’d take the 14900ks if i had a 600mm aio

[devout ridge]

7600x isn't, 7950x3d, 7800x3d, 9900x3d, 9950x3d, and 9800x3d all are though

[dusty lotus]

i aint breaking the decades old practice of buying intel in family

[devout ridge]

brand loyalty is so dumb

[dusty lotus]

we all stuck where intel was still top

[shell void]

a $30 air cooler can handle a 14900K at the recommended 253W limit, but i wouldnt buy a 14900KS unless youre interested in tuning it

[devout ridge]

buy based on the product, not the brand

[shell void]

it is basically pre-tuned to kill itself with the auto settings

[dusty lotus]

this aint brand loyality this is just what stuck to me

[cosmic gazelle]

that seems sketchy, didn’t steve show 100c on a nh d15

[dusty lotus]

they got good cpus so why stop?

[shell void]

probably with unlocked PL

[devout ridge]

you essentially said "this isn't brand loyalty, this is brand loyalty

[shell void]

my NHD15 was able to handle bursts of 320W and sustain 253W indefinitely on my 14900K

unlocked PL 14900K can go to like 385W

[dusty lotus]

not as if amd wasnt in a very bad situation a decade ago

[devout ridge]

a decade ago

and a decade ago i would have recommended you go intel, but it isn't a decade ago anymore

[cosmic gazelle]

doesn’t the 285k TECHNICALLY perform better at the same 250 or so watts

or am i crazy

[shell void]

yeah 285K has better core performance than the 14900K at any PL

it gets nerfed in games by its weird core layout and higher memory latency

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah bur i feel like at the same power limit it still equals in games at least

[dusty lotus]

must wait for 385k

[cosmic gazelle]

14900k just wins when unlocked

[dusty lotus]

intel has to drop desktop series 3

[shell void]

no such thing

[cosmic gazelle]

dude i really really hope intel drops a banger new cpu generation, the 1.8nm process they’re using looks like it has potential

[dusty lotus]

not the 5th gen thing over again

[heavy mantle]

you mean panther lake?

[shell void]

Nova Lake will be revealed at the end of this year which is Core Ultra 400 on the new LGA1954 platform

[coral tartan]

Thats laptop

[cosmic gazelle]

another new socket

how to lose customers 101

[shell void]

Core Ultra 300 is exclusive to mobile and mini PCs

[heavy mantle]

tomatoes tomtas you know what i mean

[dusty lotus]

oh yeah just like series 1

[devout ridge]

intel loves their 3 gens per socket meta

[dusty lotus]

[shell void]

yeah meteor lake desktop got cancelled, and panther lake desktop never existed

[cosmic gazelle]

does AMD have 3d vcache trademarked or copy written or whatever

[brisk jolt]

no

[cosmic gazelle]

like can intel do the same thing

[devout ridge]

the concept of "more L3 cache" isn't a trademarkable thing

[cosmic gazelle]

yeah that’s what i thought

[devout ridge]

the name "3d vcache" is

[dusty lotus]

well then lets wait for the 485k

[shell void]

lga1851 was originally going to be meteor lake (ultra 100), Arrow Lake on 20A (Ultra 200), and Arrow Lake Refresh, but 20A got canned, and we only got Arrow Lake on N3B

meteor lake desktop got canned because it was just straight up worse than raptor lake in every regard

[cosmic gazelle]

the 5775c had like 32mb of L4 cache back in the day

so they’ve technically done it before

[devout ridge]

L4 cache =! L3 cache

[cosmic gazelle]

yes but at the time it served roughly the same purpose

[shell void]

no that's a TSMC tech

[devout ridge]

that's like saying L3 cache serves the same purpose as L1 cache

[dusty lotus]

can we expect intel to cook with the series 4

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean l4 cache wasn’t really a thing though they just made it up 😭

[devout ridge]

hard to say

[shell void]

(if rumors are to be believed) Nova Lake should be better than Zen 6, but they'll have a hard time convincing people to abandon their AM5 boards just because Intel has one good generation

[devout ridge]

it's just worse L3 cache

[shell void]

Intel will have to cook for a few gens in a row to convince people

[dusty lotus]

i will be stuck to my 14700k this entire time

[brisk jolt]

novalake is the first step

[dusty lotus]

🤑

[cosmic gazelle]

i hear a lot of people saying. that because of the 9850 amd is gonna be pulling a 14nm+++++++

[shell void]

Nova Lake will win core performance 100%, we've already seen proof that the 52-core SKUs exist

it remains to be seen how big cache Nova Lake will fare against Zen 6 X3D in games

i expect Nova Lake to have a slight win, but not enough to convince people to swap platforms

[dusty lotus]

enough for me

[cosmic gazelle]

what is this mysterious “9950x3d2”

[dusty lotus]

is it going to be ddr5 still

[shell void]

yah LGA 1954 is the final DDR5 platform for Intel

[cosmic gazelle]

haven’t had enough 9950x3d? Well get ready for the sequel

[dusty lotus]

thats cool

[brisk jolt]

im praying i get a good z990i board over here

[devout ridge]

essentially just two 9800x3d CCDs

[dusty lotus]

if i want to upgrade my platform i can just reuse my ram

[cosmic gazelle]

is it an actual official thing?

[dusty lotus]

it isnt the best ddr5 anyway

6000 with cl36

[devout ridge]

AMD confirmed it might still be a thing

[shell void]

AMD hasnt acknowledged it, but partners have

Alienware and another System Integrator have mentioned the 9950X3D2

[dusty lotus]

that ram is worth 6 times more than what i paid for it

[devout ridge]

There was also credible leaks a while ago about it

[cosmic gazelle]

what an awful name

could have at least called it 9955 or something

[shell void]

dont pay any mind to Geekbench or Passmark benchmark "leaks"

[brisk jolt]

it isnt the worse, u got the middle ground

[shell void]

you can fake CPU HWID and upload scores

[dusty lotus]

amd will soon make the 9999x4d4

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean it does say 192mb cache

[shell void]

but yeah Alienware and another SI have mentioned the 9950X3D2 so it does at least exist in QS form

[dusty lotus]

does the job

[shell void]

unknown when it'll be a retail product

[devout ridge]

that's just an epyc chip atp

[dusty lotus]

ryzen 11 9999x3d6

[cosmic gazelle]

i miss when the 9980xe came out and reviewers got to show how worthless it was compared to threadripper 1

i miss intel hedt

[dusty lotus]

67 cores

[shell void]

X299 dogwalked first gen threadripper if you had a brain

they were just running cinebench and blender at stock TDP and glazing AMD

[cosmic gazelle]

meaning what (i was like 13 and just liked watching the videos)

ah

i mean it seems like it kinda killed off intel hedt so clearly it worked

[dusty lotus]

imagine how it was to be an amd glazer back in bulldozer days

[cosmic gazelle]

nah dude having to deal with the house fire jokes had to be putting dudes on s watch fr

[dusty lotus]

“at least i can oc” while the pc is on fire

2 fire mentions at the same time

big minds think alike

[shell void]

those X99 and X299 intel HEDT chips had like 35-50% OC headroom and much lower latency than the older zen generations

[dusty lotus]

fx mustve been pain in the ass

[cosmic gazelle]

isn’t the 8350 honestly not that bad if you are an expert tuner and can make everything optimal

[dusty lotus]

never had a contact with fx

[shell void]

i got a 53% oc on my 5960x :p

3.0GHz - 4.6GHz allcore

[dusty lotus]

at like 300+ watts

[cosmic gazelle]

i heard you could raise fps by like 50% on an 8350 if you knew what you were doing

[dusty lotus]

people complained about intel tdps these days but forgot what fx was capable of just to barely keep up with intel

[shell void]

my FX 6300 was so bad that it was bottlenecking my GTX 750Ti at minimum settings 720p

in ARK

[cosmic gazelle]

i saw a dude that heavily heavily tuned a 6300 and it got the same fps as a stock 8350

lemme find the video

[dusty lotus]

hey but amd said its a 6 core right where its a 3 core in reality🧍

[cosmic gazelle]

https://youtu.be/nPGGQy-xmHs?si=7CvVqFof6SEZ7pUp i think it’s this

[dusty lotus]

amd claiming the 8000 tier ones to be 8 core

[cosmic gazelle]

at least fx was better than the a-series chips amd released for am4 for… some reason?

[shell void]

AMD was so far behind that you could still beat first gen ryzen chips (2017) in games by overclocking Intel X58 CPUs from 2010

[dusty lotus]

but it was just 4 cores with 8 modules whatever that meant

[cosmic gazelle]

like why did these ever exist

[dusty lotus]

i heard bad things about 1st gen ryzen but was it THAT bad?

[shell void]

yes

[dusty lotus]

confusing ass names bro

the hell did those numbers mean

[cosmic gazelle]

afaik it was a big step forward for amd and still not better than intel in any way at the time

struggled with single thread perf in a day that single thread still kinda ruled

[dusty lotus]

what happened at amd that caused them to basically crush intel with 3rd gen ryzen

black magic bro

[cosmic gazelle]

funding from zen 1 probably

[dusty lotus]

some witchcraft

[shell void]

AMD caught up to Intel's Skylake (6700K from 2015) clock:clock performance with Ryzen 3000 in 2019, but they were still behind in latency and clockspeed

[cosmic gazelle]

the 2600x and 2700x sold massively from what i remember

[shell void]

Ryzen 5000 was the first genuinely good generation

[cosmic gazelle]

eh i mean the 3600x was the best for price to performance at its release time and the 3950x made video editors jaws drop

but in general yeah 5000 was a big step

[dusty lotus]

if i had to downgrade my pc id do 9900k becsuse uhhh first i9 bro ts lit

[shell void]

R5 3600 was cool when it was $160 yeah, and the 3950X was fun for benchmarks

but 8700K still mogged in gaming

[cosmic gazelle]

for like twice the price when new tho

[dusty lotus]

i want to build a 9900k and rtx titan pc

[cosmic gazelle]

and now to be fair

[dusty lotus]

or 2080ti

[cosmic gazelle]

9900k would bottleneck the hell out of both of those cards now

[harsh sail]

how
hwat was even happenin

[shell void]

ryzen gens before 5000 aged poorly due to the 4 core CCX design

especially the very popular R5 3600

you only get access to 3 cores before suffering a big latency penalty

[dusty lotus]

i mean its a strong 8c16t

should do fine

[cosmic gazelle]

look at rghds recent videos

it can barely back up a 3060 now

[dusty lotus]

if you do cpu intensive games yes

[shell void]

AMD was so far behind that Intel could afford to efficiency tune their CPUs and leave a lot of performance on the table for overclocking

[cosmic gazelle]

well yeah

aka any game since 2023

[dusty lotus]

thinking gpu intensive

[cosmic gazelle]

speaking of gpu intensive

[dusty lotus]

the rtx titan is so forgotten

[cosmic gazelle]

i had a generic motorcycle game i played on my amd a8 laptop as a kid, and i ran it on my 3080 and got THREE THOUSAND FPS

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean clearly not the vram, look at ebay prices these days lol

[dusty lotus]

the most powerful rt capable gpu at the time where rt was a luxury

now its like shoved down everyones throats

[cosmic gazelle]

oh how the mighty fall

[shell void]

no everyday person needed more than 11GB of vram so the RTX Titan didnt make sense because it costed twice as much as a 2080Ti

you could pay for a waterblock, loop parts, and shunt mod a 2080Ti to outperform the Titan in games instead

[cosmic gazelle]

i mean no everyday person needs a pro 6000 blackwell but i bet ya some streamers are gettin em for their gaming rigs lmao

[dusty lotus]

would you personally say the 2080ti still holds up?

[cosmic gazelle]

significantly better than the 9900k yeah

it’s still pretty good in almost any game

[topaz veldt]

I'm thinking about it

[dusty lotus]

i would buy one just for curiosity how the first consumer flagship handles rt

rt flagship***

[devout ridge]

not well is the answer, not well

[dusty lotus]

and for sake of collecting gpus

[cosmic gazelle]

not well, but it does well in raster still

[harsh sail]

oh but no longer, right? i heard performance differencce between roking 50c and 85C is not big.
my minecraft peaks at 83c but is usually in the 60s, while fortnite always has me around 60-65, never going to 69 or higher. does this mean i shouldn’t really undervolt and overclock or should i use something like ryzen master to set per-app profiles?

[dusty lotus]

i want to start collecting gpus

[cosmic gazelle]

how is minecraft putting you at 83 bro

[shell void]

modern CPUs are tuned to boost aggressively out of the box because Intel and AMD are competitive with eachother

[dusty lotus]

currently on 2 gpus that i personally own

the 4080s and a 1650

must expand

[cosmic gazelle]

out of the box may be the wrong word, my 9800 was like 4000 cinebench points too low before i turned pbo to advanced

but your point remains

[shell void]

sounds like skissue

[dusty lotus]

i look for nvidia gpus in particular

[shell void]

there's less than 4% clockspeed headroom in a 9800X3D using PBO :p

[dusty lotus]

no amd will step in my home

[shell void]

as in +200MHz is less than 4%

[cosmic gazelle]

buy a gt 745 and overclock it until it breaks

[dusty lotus]

lowkenuienly i would just search discsrded pcs for those lmfao

i need to get a 710

the question is which one

[shell void]

i heard that you lack the necessary testicles to do that

[dusty lotus]

there are so many versions of the 710 its crazy

and the fact its still sold new is mindblowing

[shell void]

the 1080p60Hz display adapter card for office PCs

[cosmic gazelle]

ooh you know what you should get

a palit single slot 3050

fits in every sff office pc, instant gaming

[topaz veldt]

It's mostly true.

[dusty lotus]

igpus exist💔

my own igpu is faster than ts

[shell void]

it kills me that the pro 6000 is the binning equivalent of the 3090 but costs $8500 instead of $1500 five years later

chop off 2 SMs and clamshell vram

[topaz veldt]

I'm doing research to see what cases of my hobby level ai/ml interest would benefit from 3-4X 5090s vs a Pro 6000

[cosmic gazelle]

honestly it’s impressive the efficiency gains you see from limiting it to the same wattage a 5090 pulls

or wait

sorry the wattage that it requires to achieve the same performance of a 5090

[shell void]

well it's the same gpu but with more cache, SMs, and ROPs enabled so yeah itll do more work with the same power limit xd

[dusty lotus]

i was thinking about buying a 680

[cosmic gazelle]

https://youtu.be/o21CDqlCSps?si=HnLams0FQgTlQrcj i think this is the video that talks about power limits

[harsh sail]

wait so should i do it? i have a 7600x which bottlenecks my 3080ti to 65% and since it’s not x3d, has 1% lows at 150 fps (average is 370fps) which dopesn’t FULLY utilize my 1440p 240hz
but on the other hand, 60C is already kinda close to the 90C limit performancce-wise

[shell void]

PBO +200MHz doesnt really do anything for you

if you want to do it for fun then sure go for it

[slim pebble]

I kind of see the Pro 6000 the same as the thread rippers. Neat tech, but too expensive for a card that’s obsolete in one year.

I already have $4K 6090 money sitting in an account waiting for one to be available for purchase.

[topaz veldt]

That's cool but sounds unadventurous

[shell void]

snail will go insane before we get the 6090 in mid 2027

[dusty lotus]

im calling it, 60 series wont exist and instead nvidia will sell ai acceleration and cloud cards that connect to the geforce now network

[harsh sail]

:fake: 😭 i really hope not now that you say it

[slim pebble]

10K is just a lot for probably less than one year, and you’re stuck with studio drivers.

If you want a cool card get the Matrix or Lightning.

[shell void]

at this point the 60 series is already taped out (fabrication capacity pre-ordered for the 60 series), and Nvidia has an effective monopoly in this market

theyre not going to cancel it

[dusty lotus]

and 6050 will be mobile only with 4gb

[shell void]

i apologize i meant to reply to borm

[dusty lotus]

i think 60 series will have an ai accelerator of some sort to push dlss further without using vram from resolution

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-meme-tom-and-jerry-meme-jerry-points-get-a-load-of-this-guy-this-guy-gif-11384860625931393733

get a load of this guy

[shell void]

that's what we're doin with DLSS now

you can get a tolerable image from a 720p render with DLSS 4.5 Model L

[slim pebble]

At the least the 60 series will be on a much smaller process node, so it’ll be worth looking into.

[dusty lotus]

im curious about vram sizes though

[slim pebble]

People with a 4090 who skipped the 5090 didn’t miss all that much.

[dusty lotus]

in no world is nvidia putting 32gb in the 6090

[shell void]

i cant agree

it's like a 50% improvement when not CPU limited, you fix DSC limitations, and you get multi framegen

i think it's a substantial improvement and people are coping

[pure garnet]

i actually just shut mine off bc the power draw wasn't worth it

[slim pebble]

I thought it was closer to 20%, for like 20% more power

[dusty lotus]

frame gen is useful

[shell void]

heck no

the compute difference isnt that important because you can cope on DLSS 4.5, but the multi framegen is nice for 4K 240Hz and 1440p 500Hz+ monitors

when GuiltySpark and i were testing against eachother in the Hell Is Us demo there was rougly a 50% performance delta

[slim pebble]

See I didn’t have a 4K 240 when I had the gigabyte 4090, maybe that’s the problem. I will say it’s FIRE with an MSI 322 and an Aorus 5090

[topaz veldt]

It's $8k

[brisk jolt]

We pretty much still have 2 years before 6090s realistically become available

I wont be buying on launch due to even distributors here loving to scalp them on release

[topaz veldt]

@slim pebble matrix can't plug in the 12vhpwr and it's about as cool as a reliant robin, and the lightning won't actually be something we can buy and so far the card hasn't done anything a matrix bios Master doesnt

[shell void]

if it's a computex 2027 launch like Kopite7Kimi said then that's going to be rough because stock usually stabilizes ~6 months after launch which would be around christmas time

might not be able to get one for a tolerable price until like march 2028

[brisk jolt]

ideally I’d buy in November to maximise my savings, but Im fine with March as well since Ill just shake it off as my own bday treat lmfao

I really doubt its coming out on Computex 2027- I’d rather place it on CES 2028

due to how volatile the market is rn

not saying kopite is wrong, I’d expect more delays or whatnot

[shell void]

im expecting normie pc parts to be computex launches from now on because CES has become an AI glazefest, and Kopite said Rubin consumer would be mid 2027 which lines up with Computex

[brisk jolt]

Means I basically still have 2 years to build up the difference from 5090-6090 and have a 5070Ti as a backup card for the downtime

[slim pebble]

It’s got that backside power delivery option, you can plug it there with the adapter. I know it’s funny looking, but I still like the Matrix.

[brisk jolt]

I find it funny that people here think they are slick buying the matrix for 7K SGD and scalping it to nobody for 10K SGD

[slim pebble]

Still a bit far out price wise IMO, and then you’re using studio drivers.

[shell void]

studio drivers r the same shiz, they just push updates less frequently

you don’t get the day one game patches and hotfixes

[slim pebble]

Same reason we don’t spend $5K for a thread ripper though. It’s not really gaming rig CPU

[topaz veldt]

But then its not 800W

[topaz veldt]

Studio drivers are fine - they don't lack anything Geforce doesn't

[shell void]

@edgy laurel the dlss recommended override seems to be working in GTA 5 for me

when i use DLAA it uses Model K, and when i switch to Performance it uses Model M

it could just be Cyberpunk that isnt respecting its wishes

[topaz veldt]

lol

0 MB/s is solid af

[arctic bronze]

peak speed

thats on par with 0 PB/s

[topaz veldt]

its more like 0 TB/s

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/windows-gif-22451563

[arctic bronze]

na, thats too fast

[ripe needle]

W headphone choice?

[oak vector]

Real

Also heya tc2

[devout ridge]

i have these exact headphones and they’re great

[oak vector]

Open backs my beloved

[ripe needle]

That's great to know

I didn't know if they were good at all I just saw they looked nice 😭

[devout ridge]

i’ve had them for a couple years now, they hold up really well and have great audio fidelity

[ripe needle]

Nice

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-larry-david-hbo-hbo-max-meh-gif-24169087

[devout ridge]

i take reasonably good care of them, and they are practically like new

great build quality

[ripe needle]

I don't take good care of my headphones 💀

[topaz veldt]

https://rog.asus.com/us/articles/gaming-headsets/the-republic-and-hifiman-team-up-for-the-rog-kithara-planar-magnetic-gaming-headset/

[devout ridge]

get in the habit of taking good care of your stuff man

[ripe needle]

I sat on my last pair by accident and they broke

😭

I'm not a very heavy person

[devout ridge]

generally sitting on electronics is a bad idea

[oak vector]

[ripe needle]

My fault for leaving it on my chair ig

[oak vector]

My dwarf rabbit does it and it’s fine but when I do it it breaks

[devout ridge]

i got a cheap headphone stand off amazon and made myself get in the habit of always putting it there

gives it a dedicated place to sit when not on my head, which helps

[ripe needle]

I usually just put them on my monitor lol

[oak vector]

I use wireless headphones for like discord or whatever
But rest goes through my mr4s

[devout ridge]

better than your chair

[ripe needle]

Speaking of I just went from 1080p 60hz to 1440p 240hz and it's night and day

[devout ridge]

i use wired for everything except mobile listening

only wireless pair of headphones i own is my airpods pro 2

[ripe needle]

I've been using my air pods for my PC in the meanwhile

[devout ridge]

i’m not a huge fan of bluetooth audio in general

i just prefer wired, it’s just so much more reliable

[ripe needle]

Me neither but air pods are really nice

If you lose them they make it easy to find

[devout ridge]

Yeah they’re great in tandem with apple devices

they don’t work nearly as well with non-apple devices though

[ripe needle]

I've noticed after switching to android

[devout ridge]

apple is very big on their “ecosystem”

[ripe needle]

Ive been keeping track of them more carefully since I switched

[brisk jolt]

sitting on items is a shit idea period

[ripe needle]

They just want a monopoly

[devout ridge]

my chair seems to be just fine despite my sitting on it

[ripe needle]

Is your floor fine

[brisk jolt]

ur not heavy enough for the chair

[devout ridge]

glass floor mat is fine, so floor should be fine

[ripe needle]

Glass is very strong

[devout ridge]

sometimes is, sometimes isn’t

[ripe needle]

If you have a tile floor under that it reinforces it

[devout ridge]

depends on the glass

[edgy laurel]

so DLAA was effectively unchanged

[devout ridge]

carpet

[ripe needle]

I have an extra room would it make sense to move my set up there instead of my bedroom 🤔

I could have a VR set up and everything if I dis

[obsidian bluff]

why does AMD fluid motion frames cause my fps to TANK?
im getting 117FPS on helldivers 2 but it drops to ~60 with fluid motion frames turned on.

[harsh sail]

what the hail 😂

[teal orbit]

seeing ROG and hifiman combined is surreal

[harsh sail]

for real
never thought rog makes planars now

[oak vector]

Helldivers 2?

[obsidian bluff]

Yes

It’s all games, I just tested

[oak vector]

Fun

I was gonna say it’s helldivers being shitty
But nvm

[low sorrel]

@pallid marsh this ain't squad anymore this is army

[pallid marsh]

nice ping

[green marsh]

well, i will now have to spend store coupons i got for christmas on an unexpected expense - a new UPS 🙁

i mean i could try to get the cables for the existing UPS, but that will take some time anyway

[low sorrel]

Hey it's basically free

Your bank account does go down

Must be free

@pallid marsh which way do I mount this mic arm

Side note why is it so short

[green marsh]

yeah, but i would have prefered not to spend on such thing

[low sorrel]

i don't check pings

[pallid marsh]

https://x.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/2012026846918164690

Hardware Unboxed (@HardwareUnboxed)

Sorry everyone but we’ve just been provided with ANOTHER clarifying statement from Asus. This one completely walks back their original statement to us

“We would like to clarify recent reports regarding the ASUS GeForce RTX™ 5070 Ti and RTX™ 5060 Ti 16 GB. Certain media may

X · Jan 16, 2026, 4:59 AM

[ripe needle]

Yeah you got a terrible boom arm my dude

[pallid marsh]

^

[brittle trellis]

Because it's not a boom arm

[ripe needle]

I'm not following

[brittle trellis]

It's just a strait out adjustable arm

Boom arms are the springy ones

[ripe needle]

A boom arm is an adjustable clamp for the microphone

That's still a boom arm just not a good one as I said

[low sorrel]

Twas 20 bucks

[green marsh]

damn, what a demanding UPS

The UPS must be stored in an environment with a room temperature between +20°C (+68°F) and +25°C (+77°F) and humidity less than 95% (not condensing).

also why the hell does every 1200-1500VA UPS have a fan, ewww

[civic reef]

!!!!!

[ripe needle]

I paid $60 for mine lol

[brittle trellis]

Because power things require cooling

[green marsh]

the issue is that for example one i was looking at was really dumb fan profile. The eaton for example does "if over 50% load = 100% fan speed". Which is unacceptable for living room

[brittle trellis]

Why do you need a 1200-1500VA UPS in your living room

[green marsh]

5700G + 6x hard drives; 9950x + 4080 Super; 2 monitors, switch, other minor items

that pulls around 600-700W peak power for now, which is 1200VA or so

[brittle trellis]

Then replace the fans with Noctua ones

People have encountered and fixed these issues before you

[livid flame]

8gb vram gaming a worry? Don’t even need 2gb me

[merry stirrup]

in a window too

this guy is gaming, truly

[livid flame]

Can’t be playing anything but classic fixed on osrs

Can’t be a pleb can I

Tbh it normally maxes out at like 3.3gb

[merry stirrup]

still a pretty decent amount

[green marsh]

how do you know the images in UPS were made in ancient times

[lost glacier]

why do i even try bro💔💔

[topaz veldt]

what currency is that

[lost glacier]

USD

[topaz veldt]

wrong

[lost glacier]

what😭

i live in florida we use USD he’s just the craziest scalper i’ve seen in a while

[wraith steeple]

$1200 USD for a 3070 is wild

[lost glacier]

i mean guy must’ve blown in from 2020 or something man

[wraith steeple]

Even scalped 3070s in 2020 weren't going for that much

Scalped 3080s were for sure

[lost glacier]

i mean it is an evga card so it’s worth atleast 5k in the box❤️‍🩹

[green marsh]

for 1240-1260 euros one can buy a brand new 5080 still

sure, it would be only a 'basic model' like https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N5080WF3-16GD#kf

[livid flame]

The more you buy the more you save

[lost glacier]

i love those old evga rgb bars that they had especially the 30 series FTW3 cards

[wraith steeple]

The imma firin muh lazar GPU

[lost glacier]

yes that one

[wraith steeple]

My 3090 FTW3 didn't have the red clown lips

So it was a second revision

[lost glacier]

if i’m not mistaken isn’t that a kinda competitive price to performance?

not competitive i mean like reasonable especially for production workloads cuz almost double vram

yeah lol marketplace you get the “trust me bro” special

and a scalper might be the least trustable person

[livid flame]

Scalper. Trustable.

[lost glacier]

checked the guy’s profile and it’s all just posts like that a ps5 for $900 and just labubus upon labubus

[karmic arrow]

Hi everyone, i am buying an controller for pc. should i get an ps4 or ps5 controller?

[lost glacier]

I personally prefer the ps5 controller cuz it’s more comfortable, but functionally it’s quite similar to the pa4 controller, if you can get the ps4 controller super cheap i’d get that, if ur buying new id go with the ps5 controller 100%

[topaz veldt]

I use 8bitdo Ultimate 2 wireless

[livid flame]

Someone tag a mod please.

[wise bear]

<@&750150305383186585> financial scam

[karmic arrow]

okay thank you i will probably get the ps5 controller then if its more comfortable.

what about stick drift issues? i heard its more common on ps5 controllers

[lost glacier]

i’ve heard good things abt 8bitdo and my ps5 controller does have some stick drift, this one has hall effect joysticks so i’d say prolly get this one

[lost glacier]

yeah i’d reccomend getting something hall effect, really no point in getting a $70 controller if it just develops stick drift in a year or 2

[karmic arrow]

it is that bad? in under 2 years it develops stick drift

how is this controller comfort wise? i have a cheap wired controller right now and its really uncomfortable

[lost glacier]

for the price that os5 controllers go for yeah they should’nt be getting stick drift, they should be hall effect

i’m not sure abt compatibility if you’re using a ps5 console but if not then id definently get something like what patio is reccomending

[karmic arrow]

okay thanks for info 😀

[karmic arrow]

yeah the price is too high for it to go bad that fast

[karmic arrow]

i am on pc so compatibility shouldnt be a problem

[lost glacier]

then yeah i’d definently reccomend the ultimate, plus the ps5 compatibility on pc is finicky sometimes

[merry stirrup]

your momma

[merry stirrup]

you are mistaken

[wise bear]

why are you awake

[wraith steeple]

[merry stirrup]

i went to bed after i got home at like 4 and woke up at 10 or something

now im overclocking on my now properly cooled am4 rig

[topaz veldt]

I went to bed at about 1:20 EST and woke up at 5:40 EST

so... yay this will be a fun day

[merry stirrup]

50% yc improvement over stock is where im at

4.1 vs 6 test speed

[wraith steeple]

Today is when it'll arrive

[karmic folio]

[topaz veldt]

I need new PC shit im bored

nah

[brisk jolt]

build another sff with a 285K/9950X3D 5090 thats below 10L

[unreal solar]

should you have a UPS for your PC? I have one for my NAS but getting a 1050W one for my PC would mean spending another 400 dollars or so

[livid flame]

Why do people even have UPS

Is power that bad where you live

For the average user that is, not a business/commercial op

[dusty lotus]

can use it as a temporary power source when no wall connection is available

[livid flame]

I’ve had one power outage in 7 years of living where I am. And that’s because someone drove into the street transformer thingy

[dusty lotus]

if a pc idles at like 15w it would last long

[unreal solar]

I have an LTO in my enclosure and if the power for that stops while im working something...

[dusty lotus]

an ups has a much larger battery than a laptop and if your pc idles at low wattage it will last hours

considering you dont stress it

[unreal solar]

how do you even find out your idle wattage

[dusty lotus]

voltage?

my gpu idles at like 10-20w and cpu below 5

ignoring the random spikes to 60-100 when slightly using it

[unreal solar]

even with open hardware monitor I only get gpu power

[dusty lotus]

youre using the wrong app then?

[brisk jolt]

“Driving in my car, right after a beer, hey that thing is shaped like a deer, DUI, how about you die”

[dusty lotus]

what an idle

[teal orbit]

That's pretty good

[dusty lotus]

the random cpu spikes are to be expected

[manic sigil]

It's just windows doing something on background

[green marsh]

i prefer it to have for short outages, plus to clear out dirty power if it ever happens. Like the ~20 second outage we had today

but again, i have a 1000VA and 650VA units here. I need to have 3 things on UPS - desktop (9950x+4080 super+monitors), 'server'+network switch (5700G, 6xHDD, switch), plus the 'router' (N100 mini PC). I could in theory run the 9950x/4080 super+monitors from the 600W/1000VA UPS , move the 400W/650VA UPS to the server and then get a new small one for the N100 router.

Or alternatively get a big one (1200-1500VA or more) for the desktop + server combined

[topaz veldt]

My 1000VA guy was only $229 or so

sorry 1500VA

[green marsh]

https://ups.legrand.com/en/products/keor-sp 2000VA is 235 euros

[topaz veldt]

its not PFC

[green marsh]

but it has their own software, not sure about NUT compatibility

[turbid locust]

heh nut

[topaz veldt]

CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD PFC Sinewave UPS Battery Backup and Surge Protector, 1500VA/1000W, 12 Outlets, AVR, Mini Tower; UL Certified

[green marsh]

?

[green marsh]

doesn't exist here

[green marsh]

https://www.cyberpower.com/eu/en/product/sku/vp1600elcd is as close as it gets

but again, i could get away with small investment for small UPS and reorganize my existing ones

[dusty lotus]

intel shenanigans

thats just watching shorts

[unreal solar]

i have a grounded power cord that all this stuff is attached through and I cannot run more than 1500W through it so

[green marsh]

1. VA and W is not same thing
2. in Europe most power cords from 250V/10A to 250V/16A

[unreal solar]

as for the UPS i think this is the only reasonable option in price I have available

[unreal solar]

not in europe :P

[turbid locust]

mfs when the pc does things when they tell it to

[livid flame]

Snail wants another pc. Time for an ultra SFF velka3 9950x3d 5070 mini build

[green marsh]

do you know what 'velka' means in Slovak language ? Big 😄

[livid flame]

I work with a couple of Slovaks

You guys love to drink

You also get really angry when you’re called Czech

[green marsh]

technically i am not Slovak, just from Slovakia (i am of hungarian nationality, slovak citizenship). And i don't drink any alcohol at all

[woven adder]

is it illegal to change you phone IMEI

[oak vector]

So I accidentally bought 4tb of storage for 320 aud

[livid flame]

No more illegal than changing your socks 5 times a day

[oak vector]

[turbid locust]

5070 pffffttt

[woven adder]

what if your socks get wet 5 times a day

i bet its illegal to wear wet socks

[livid flame]

Find me a better card that fits it

[turbid locust]

5070 pffftttt

[proven saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/war-thunder-devblogs-gaijin-gif-23141845

[dusty lotus]

5070 is 4090 performance am i right

[livid flame]

He’s not wrong

[proven saddle]

Are you surr

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[livid flame]

The more you buy the more you save

[dusty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-gif-14251978375826396304

[livid flame]

Buy a 4090 and you’ll have a 5070 after 2 years

• with 4x MFG and DLSS 4 upscaled to 1080p

[proven saddle]

Hmm its more than my 2 setups worth

[woven adder]

who here plays warthunder

[livid flame]

My pc went from £1400 new 2 years ago to £2000 new today. Thanks AI.

[oak vector]

See who said pcs wouldn’t be an investment smh

[livid flame]

£75 more to buy a saphire pulse 7800xt in 2025 than 2023

[edgy laurel]

RIP Legion after that tonight show performance

[livid flame]

My ssd went from £100 to £250 new

It’s actually ridiculous how much you need to pay for a mid pc in 2023 if you buy it in 2025

[proven saddle]

Not me

[oak vector]

Yeah.. we’re going backwards

[livid flame]

A 7500f and 9060xt 16gb with 32gb ddr5 is almost the same price as what I built new. It’s ludicrous

[proven saddle]

"Attack the D point"

[woven adder]

good keep it that way otherwise you will have to sacrifice with your soul

[green marsh]

my RAM alone is +1000 euros from when i bought it https://www.corsair.com/eu/en/p/memory/cmh64gx5m2b6000z30/vengeance-rgb-64gb-2x32gb-ddr5-dram-6000mt-s-cl30-amd-expo-memory-kit-cmh64gx5m2b6000z30

[livid flame]

And the spec is just worse. Like I can’t wait for the complaints with the £1k to £1200 consoles next year

[livid flame]

It’s crazy that my shit ram is almost £500

[proven saddle]

Nah how far you got in the game?

[uncut light]

i wonder how much the steam machine is gonna be

[woven adder]

8.8

[uncut light]

the gabecube even

[livid flame]

Like £450 for cl36 32gb? Jokes

[proven saddle]

8.7

[woven adder]

which country

[leaden dawn]

Steam machine? We have steam machine at home

https://tenor.com/view/pixelpro-pixelprophecy-programming-bsod-update-gif-5908433894633626331

[proven saddle]

Uhh idk I got a littel in the 3 main countrys

[livid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/train-steam-gif-23821904

[woven adder]

which countries you dont even know the countries you are grinding

[dusty lotus]

my ram was 105 euro when i bought it 2 years ago

now its like 600

[livid flame]

Yeah it’s mad

[dusty lotus]

and we used to say ddr5 is expensive

[livid flame]

Meanwhile 4090 used still cheaper than some 5080s

[proven saddle]

Look in my bio

[livid flame]

War thunder pro

[woven adder]

im locked only on germany

[proven saddle]

What br?

[woven adder]

8.8

[proven saddle]

8.7?

[woven adder]

no 8.8

the first leopard

[proven saddle]

The Leo is 8.0

[woven adder]

really

[proven saddle]

Im sure

I got a1a1

[woven adder]

i spend most time in custom battles what about you

[proven saddle]

Just 1900 hours

[woven adder]

am at 650 hrs

[proven saddle]

Im close to 4k

[woven adder]

how many nukes?

and since when you playing?

[proven saddle]

0

[proven saddle]

Aprill event 2022

[woven adder]

why

[proven saddle]

Im just playing for fun