tech-chat-2

[green marsh]

here all that matters is "do you have a graduation letter from 'high school'" (we call it middle school, but whatever. Or "Do you have a magistrate/engineer/doctorate" from university? Nobody cares about the grades

[arctic bronze]

Gpa doesn't really translate to anything besides showing effort

[topaz veldt]

when I was in a pretty remote part of FL I had a 12 - 15 ms ping, it was usable

[brave panther]

exactly

[arctic bronze]

What matters is experience tbh

[brave panther]

not really either

[arctic bronze]

It does here

I had a talk to my companys IT VP and he said that experience is more important than a degree but sometimes a degree is needed

[brave panther]

what matters is that person is willing to learn and has mental/physical capacity to do the job

[arctic bronze]

That too

[topaz veldt]

I think a high GPA shows the persons commitment to mastering their shit

like at least they were dedicated to being on top of it

I sure as shit was not lol

[arctic bronze]

Yeah, but there is students in my classes that has a high gpa but isnt very good at the actual work outside the classroom

[topaz veldt]

for sure

there is no one indicator of excellence

[brave panther]

college for me was basically a refresher on High school lol
only thing that i really needed to study for was fucking economics 🖕

[topaz veldt]

I personally had already honed what I'd do in my career by time I was like 13 lol

[brave panther]

same

[topaz veldt]

so trust me everything since was like "I don't need any of this" and my grades reflected that vibe

[arctic bronze]

Yep, well there is one, and thats real world results from actually working lmao

[arctic bronze]

Honestly same

[topaz veldt]

yes but I interview people who talk about their proficiency at their current job and then their actual work is not that

[brave panther]

i was the type of guy who got C's in classes but then got A in national test for the subject

[arctic bronze]

Most ppl iv seen make their mind up as soon as class starts, its rare to fine ppl who come in already with the skills of doing it in their own time

[arctic bronze]

Yeah 🤣

[topaz veldt]

Yeah i tested very well, but I didn't do homework at all

so courses where the tests were 90% of the grade I was OK, but courses where homework was 70% I was in bad shape lol

[arctic bronze]

i suck at tests ngl

[topaz veldt]

@turbid locust https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9850x3d-goes-on-sale-on-january-29

[shell void]

https://tenor.com/view/pondering-the-orb-gif-13211537702542941358

[pure garnet]

me and michael already have 9850x3ds

just win the lottery, brutal

[shell void]

i would get more benefit from buying a real motherboard, but i’m uninterested atm

[pure garnet]

im happy with my mlg when im not shilling the apex for no reason

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/enorym-pssh-gif-21051436

[spiral quarry]

Same lol. But once I kinda know how much each test will tank my grade I gamble when I shouldn’t.

Usually ends up working out when I manage to do terrible on them

[arctic bronze]

I just try to do enough to keep my grade at an A

[shell void]

i want a smaller and prettier computer next time

medium form factor with some lian li wireless fans perhaps

[spiral quarry]

After my first exam in my American government class which is required to graduate I pretty much knew if I scored between a 60-70% on all 3 exams I’d pass with a B

The professor ended up modifying the grading percentage for exams and homework last minute before finals week so homework was more then exams

[turbid locust]

My US History class my first semester of college, I ended up getting exempt from the final because the class was set up on a 1000 point system, and if you had 750 points before finals you just got an automatic A lol

[low sorrel]

when reflex 2

[turbid locust]

@topaz veldt have you seen the ZR1X stuff. 8’s in the quarter mile stock

8’s with a warranty is fuckin hilarious

[low sorrel]

1.6 zero to 60 afaik as well

[spiral quarry]

Kinda how mines went. If you scored good on the final essay, pretty much an automatic A/B depending on how you did on the 3 exams

[turbid locust]

My microeconomics class was a similar deal except I still had to take the exam. But I could’ve gotten a -14 on it and still had an A lol.

[spiral quarry]

And the essay, I had an advantage since it was about comparing what AI would answer to a question you asked versus you summarizing info from the book and lectures.

[topaz veldt]

Yah its wild

has basically twins of my turbo I think @turbid locust

[turbid locust]

noice

[carmine lark]

Thoughts on Keychron?

[frank cypress]

@low sorrel are you serious about buying a 2080ti?

[low sorrel]

god no 2080tis are basically time bombs

[frank cypress]

ah ok

yeah no i don't think you should buy one from me

i don't even really want to sell them to friends unless they really want one for some reason

i'd feel better selling to strangers\

[pure garnet]

why

[frank cypress]

bga soldering on the vram and the core had issues or something in that generation

[pure garnet]

oh lame

[frank cypress]

anecdotally, i've had two GPUs fail for those reasons (or at least, presented symptoms that pointed to that sorta failure)

[pure garnet]

i wanted a 2080ti at some point

guess i'll skip that gen of ewaste

[fringe vigil]

hoo lee sheet

[frank cypress]

wise

[low sorrel]

has anyone played hytale?

didn't even know it released

[south shuttle]

rip sd card prices as well

[odd sable]

i have a renderdoc capture of it

[odd sable]

you have 2080tis?

@frank cypress ping because that was 20 minutes ago

[merry stirrup]

damn i think my bdie is garbage

[frank cypress]

a lot yeah

4 working, 2 dead from core/vram issues

[odd sable]

how much for a working one?

and also, what models?

[frank cypress]

$250 cad is what i paid

they're all blowers but

[odd sable]

oh, eww, cad, fuck

i have a pny blower, so, a 2nd one is preferable so i can SLI them

[frank cypress]

the ones i'm selling is a pny blower, and the other is a zotac amp with the same cooler attached is the pny blower

[low sorrel]

for all the titles that support sli?

[odd sable]

im currently in the US, so, shipping/tariffs are a problem

[frank cypress]

yeah i recall, you sold your 7b12s to me and my friend a year or so ago

shipping to the states is suprrisingly cheap relative to the other way around

[odd sable]

oh, yea, i did

[frank cypress]

but the tariffs are well...

[low sorrel]

smuggle it into your backpack

[frank cypress]

i'm not sure since i haven't had to deal with that

[odd sable]

could you ship it out from the states?

[wraith steeple]

[odd sable]

unless its cheaper to just pay the tariffs, or lie

[frank cypress]

unfortunately i'm not going to the states for a few years

nor is anyone else i know soooooooooo

uhhh let's see how much tariffs are

[merry stirrup]

my bdie is TRASH i gotta buy a new kit

[frank cypress]

i'd be willing to cover a portion if it's not crazy, since you did cut a really good deal back then for me and my friend

[low sorrel]

isn't 35% right now?

[frank cypress]

😢

[odd sable]

im a game dev, id be the one writing the code to use SLI

[frank cypress]

holy fuck

[merry stirrup]

one stick tops out at 4733 the other tops out at <4666

[frank cypress]

i mean, i could undervalue it

[odd sable]

ive gotten Minecraft to run on Crossfire 7900 XTX

[frank cypress]

call it for parts

[low sorrel]

you could

[frank cypress]

when it's perfectly working

[odd sable]

$50, parts

[frank cypress]

ye legit

[low sorrel]

My relatives from china do that when shipping to the US currently

[frank cypress]

do you have an nvlink bridge alr? i don't use mine for anything

[low sorrel]

I mean they would never commit tax fraud

[frank cypress]

so if you need one i can toss it in for what i paid for it

($40 cad)

[low sorrel]

I wouldn't think they would check if it's working icl

[frank cypress]

which is actually cheap for an nvlink bridge btw

[frank cypress]

ye exactly

[odd sable]

i do for 30-series, but not 20-series

and yes, im aware of the prices for them

[frank cypress]

they're not cross compatible afaik

[merry stirrup]

yeah okay so 4733 & 4600 are my sticks two top freqs

[frank cypress]

just a heads up though, i have the evga one

which is quite wide

[low sorrel]

just ship it from point roberts or blaine @frank cypress

[frank cypress]

not sure if it'll fit on your board

[odd sable]

im aware, hence saying separating them

i can work with 2, 3, or 4 slot bridges

i have boards that fit all of those

[frank cypress]

not planning on heading there any time soon

[frank cypress]

perfect, it's a 4 slotter i think

[odd sable]

the 3090 one i have is also 4 slot

and yes, i do have a pair of 3090s for it too

[frank cypress]

do you want the zotac amp or the pny blower? they both have the same cooler btw

[odd sable]

are they the same pcb height?

[frank cypress]

but not sure if i used the correct length screws on the zotac amp because the chinese proxy didn't ship my screws

[frank cypress]

yep, both ref

[odd sable]

i have a pny blower now, so i just want one that'll connect

[odd sable]

ill go with the pny blower then

[frank cypress]

bottom two are the ones im selling

[frank cypress]

very fair

[odd sable]

yes, thats a 4 slot bridge

[frank cypress]

im a bit busy with my unreal project for this month though, but i can work out shipping it to you probably early next month if you'd still be interested then

[brave panther]

what psu are you running ?

[frank cypress]

1600t2

[brave panther]

neet

[odd sable]

leadex 1600 titanium here

[frank cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[odd sable]

so, ima need it to arrive by early next month

[frank cypress]

1600w psu leggoo

[odd sable]

im moving mid febuary

[frank cypress]

oh

i mean i'm not in a rush to sell it

[odd sable]

to Sweden

[frank cypress]

so i can sell it after you move if that works better for you

oh

[merry stirrup]

💀

[low sorrel]

wait

[frank cypress]

ok lemme go check how much shipping is to where you live

[low sorrel]

just ship it to sweden

[odd sable]

shipping to EU is a PITA, and VAT

[frank cypress]

nonono that's probably gonna be a fuck ton no?

[frank cypress]

also vat yeah

[odd sable]

the shipping wont be that bad, VAT is the problem

[low sorrel]

undervalue it

[fringe vigil]

nooo

[odd sable]

thats 25%, and also customs duties too (VAT isn't customs)

[brave panther]

just smuggle it ™

[frank cypress]

kk ill dm you quickly for your address - are you ok with canada post / USPS?

[odd sable]

yea, i dont much care between carriers

[frank cypress]

kk

[merry stirrup]

speedrun 2080ti sale

[low sorrel]

fly him out

[odd sable]

look, its for testing purposes

[fringe vigil]

[odd sable]

when i need to test Turing i need a Turing card

[brave panther]

speedrun 2080ti tax evasion edition

[merry stirrup]

sign it

[low sorrel]

shipping is cheap lmao

hypotheically if you declare it for parts

[odd sable]

sure, but its cheaper to ship to the states, and tariffs are probably less than VAT + Customs to Sweden

[low sorrel]

same price

sweden is 5 bucks more

[merry stirrup]

so its not stable but its cool to look at

4600 16-17-17-38

[odd sable]

right, but customs/tariffs will likely be cheaper for shipping to the states

vs paying VAT/customs to Sweden

[pure garnet]

that didn’t stop jerry from dailying it

it sucks that trefi is locked on am4

[brave panther]

tax evasion either way lol

[low sorrel]

you know i don't think it was the ram

[shell void]

locking the single most important subtiming 🥀

[low sorrel]

my pc still crashes

im pretty sure my psu is fucked

[pure garnet]

pebkac

[low sorrel]

isn't there deminimus in sweden?

[odd sable]

yes, its around $60 iirc

[low sorrel]

boom value it at 59

[pure garnet]

hey jerry have you heard of structuring

[merry stirrup]

okay i made it better

[low sorrel]

how much is that in real money

[odd sable]

ballpark 10:1 conversion

so, ~$180 (its actually closer to $200)

$195.58 is the current exact conversion

[low sorrel]

yeah but ennui is selling it in fake money

[odd sable]

yea, CAD, total is only like 230 real dollars

anyway its the 25% VAT that i dont want to pay

[low sorrel]

i mean you're going to pay a 35% tariff

[merry stirrup]

thats cheaper than 35% tarriff innit?

[odd sable]

yes, but i also care less about lying to the US gov

[pure garnet]

would it not be cheaper to just buy one off ebay

[odd sable]

not when that $230 includes an nvlink bridge too

[merry stirrup]

oh yeah

im so upset this board is 1 ratio away from posting 5000

[pure garnet]

i see a pny blower for $250 usd

[odd sable]

ebay also charges tax

[odd sable]

and add an nvlink bridge too

[low sorrel]

just list it as for parts smh

hold up

maybe i shouldn't be advocating for tax evadison on a public forum

[pure garnet]

jerry how many rows is your bus

[merry stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-laptop-duh-gif-8033838636860661307

[odd sable]

if im lying to a government, id rather lie to the US gov

[pure garnet]

anyway floppa i gotta find a box for the superflower

and then we’ll figure it out

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-burnt-peanut-burnt-peanut-gif-8357479628067965653

[merry stirrup]

okie thanks

my uhhh am4 oc rig doesnt exactly like this psu if youve noticed

[fringe vigil]

[merry stirrup]

11.7v on the 12v rail doing actually nothing

[pure garnet]

LMFAO

[pure garnet]

i think the lowest i’ve seen is 11.9

[low sorrel]

i've taken the bus like 4 times in my life idk

[pure garnet]

what did your ocf say that one time

like 7v or something

[merry stirrup]

pyeah 😭

i think it actually said like 16v or soemthing

[pure garnet]

i found it

[jaunty horizon]

cableception

[pure garnet]

15v 12v rail 🔥🔥🔥

[merry stirrup]

LMFAO

[pure garnet]

ocf comes with a built in alternator

[merry stirrup]

yeah thats why it takes so long to turn on

needs to charge from 12v

[jaunty horizon]

no one noticed :(

[frank cypress]

yeah lol

[pure garnet]

your message wasn’t even a minute old

[merry stirrup]

oh so is it my job to max out this 5700G and bdie

[pure garnet]

is that mold on your walls

[edgy laurel]

you posted a dark, blurry, no context image. what were you expecting

[jaunty horizon]

sorry, those are my cables that are spewing out of my computer desk

so many :000

[pure garnet]

is that mold

[merry stirrup]

progress (not an instant explosion)

[jaunty horizon]

no, my walls are just dirty

[merry stirrup]

wait its progress cause i did whatever test bkt is

[jaunty horizon]

the thing protecting me from storms is a piece of plywood with scrap metal outside 🔥

which is scary because hurricanes

or typhoons i mean

[merry stirrup]

I notice it doesn’t say 11.7v anywhere

[pure garnet]

what the hell is that

[merry stirrup]

a unironically 20 year old power supply from an hp prebuilt

my 1300G2 is in my nas

why you think i need a psu

[pure garnet]

yeah

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[pure garnet]

i just tossed the optiplex’s oem one when i got it

the psu in it now is not great but it’s no gpu so whatever

[merry stirrup]

i dont even remember how i have the thing

[pure garnet]

some roswill unit

[merry stirrup]

i have the whole computer its from

[pure garnet]

i want work off that old dinosaur pc so bad so i don’t have to worry about it dying

or the old version of 21h2 getting malware’d

[merry stirrup]

😭

[pure garnet]

my comp isn’t high enough to argue with the bossman

if he wants win update off i shut it off 👍

[merry stirrup]

😭

sounds good boss

[shell void]

21h2

[merry stirrup]

so i think 4600 on 2 dimms just dont work

[hoary hatch]

Is he really back on the 5700g

[merry stirrup]

i got bored

i wanted to see my 1 singular stick of rev.e i have again do 5000 but this board sucks

[odd sable]

thats the correct attitude to have, just make sure you get what they want in writing

[merry stirrup]

why do you think i asked what antiquated hw you have

IM BORED MAN

[low sorrel]

next are you going start tuning ddr3?

[hoary hatch]

Tarkov getting old?

[merry stirrup]

i just like overclocking

[topaz veldt]

I had a bamf DDR3 setup

[merry stirrup]

was considering it but i think im going to buy a hero

[hoary hatch]

Oh I have some ddr3 if you want

No ddr3 platforms

[low sorrel]

i also have ddr3

[merry stirrup]

are they 8gb

[hoary hatch]

I think it's like 8gb of vengeance probably a POS

[topaz veldt]

I had triple channel ocz golds

[merry stirrup]

yeah i dont even want it

[hoary hatch]

4gb dimms

[low sorrel]

4gb dimms

[merry stirrup]

oh my bad

and coorel?

[hoary hatch]

What's a coorel

[merry stirrup]

cooler

[cosmic gazelle]

oh tarkov you mean the game that added a local pve mode just for it to nearly crash due to maxing out a 32gb system’s ram 😭

[hoary hatch]

I meant if floppa is bored of tarkov now

[topaz veldt]

One of my fav builds, lasted so long

[cosmic gazelle]

i know i was just complaining

[hoary hatch]

What ewaste coolers do I have?!

[cosmic gazelle]

haswell?

[merry stirrup]

msi mag 240mm

[hoary hatch]

Dude you're an MSI mag 240mm

Do you want a 120mm H60i

[merry stirrup]

i think thats worse than the stock cooler also from the 20 year old hp prebuilt i have on the am4 oc rig rn

i bought a cooler itll be here tomorrow 💀

[cosmic gazelle]

what if you attach a server fan to the radiator and run it at max speed

[merry stirrup]

the issue is lack of radiator

[cosmic gazelle]

no i meant the h60i

[merry stirrup]

no i know

This one has the same problem

[cosmic gazelle]

i bought a higher end dell cooler off ebay for $7 for the 4790k system and the fan had this weird ass proprietary plug so i had to painstakingly swap the fans

[merry stirrup]

i just uhhh, went on amazon

and bought a cooler

[cosmic gazelle]

ya but dell decided to make custom mounting holes

because they could i guess

[merry stirrup]

fire

[pure garnet]

a lot of dell am4 boards uses lga 1151 mounts iirc

[spiral quarry]

[spiral quarry]

damn today I learn yes they did that.

[frank cypress]

hmm now to figure out what to do with the other 2080ti

welp that's a problem for another day

[shell void]

how many turdings do u have now

[frank cypress]

time to actually work on shit

[frank cypress]

4 working 2 dead, selling one to rogue so only 3 working soon

[edgy laurel]

is owning this many 2080Ti's in 2026 considered mental illness

[shell void]

it's a special interest

[frank cypress]

yessir

[shell void]

it would be super cool beans if you had a chinese guy transplant your chip into a 22GB PCB

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/thanks-gif-2133572571632672455

[frank cypress]

if i go to china in a few years, i'll probably take my dead ftw3 with me

i think the core on that thing is fine, just the vram that died

my maternal grandmother died during covid and my mom wasn't able to return to go to her funeral so

might have to go to china at some point

[edgy laurel]

the guy that did the other GPU mods the last few years, and also made his own DDR5 DIMM's last week https://videocardz.com/newz/russian-modder-makes-his-own-ddr5-memory-saving-600-to-800-on-single-module

[frank cypress]

oh i saw that shit

[edgy laurel]

VIK-on

[frank cypress]

ngl tho, i don't really see the point

neat, but why not just use a sodimm to dimm adapter?

[edgy laurel]

i can't remember exactly what it was but he's done other VRAM mods on cards before

oh right, the 16GB 2070

actually, so many transplants https://www.youtube.com/@VIKon-msk/videos

[frank cypress]

wait before i go sell that card off to rogue i need to run all 4 cards in a time spy run

just for fun

not that the other cards will do anything but

i just need to see what funny thing that timespy will report

[unreal vector]

I posted in tech support and was wondering if someone can check it out I need help

[frank cypress]

rahhhh i need more vram

fucking substance shitter taking all my vram

[dawn plover]

why has nobody been talking about the redesigned Windows 11 Start menu that they just changed

[edgy laurel]

because it probably looks the same for most people, like mine

[dawn plover]

you no longer need to click on "all apps" anymore

[edgy laurel]

i also rarely have to interact with the start menu, there is nothing on it

apart from one weird app that I put there and never bothered to remove since I never use it

[brittle trellis]

Because it was talked about and you missed it

[dawn plover]

damn ok 😔

I honestly love the new layout tho; anything to reduce the number of clicks is good

[edgy laurel]

thumb hits windows key, type what you want. start menu navigation with a mouse is like desktop icons. old school and pointless (to me)

[low sorrel]

because the only thing iuse the start menu for is to quickly type the name of the program i want to open

and then edge opens up and i complain about windows search

[dawn plover]

yeah that's one of my issues with typing in the windows search bar

[low sorrel]

pretty sure you can turn off web search or something but im too lazy

and honestly i don't care enough

[fringe vigil]

sup

[edgy laurel]

PowerToys Run for when I can remember to use Alt-Space

[low sorrel]

WTF IS THIS

[edgy laurel]

oh they replaced that with Command Palette, i forgot

do you have powertoys installed and powertoys Run enabled?

I just disabled it and enabled its 2.0, Command Palette

its super powerful and far better at its job than windows default search

changed the key combo to alt-space like ptr used to be

[shell void]

nvm it doesnt work XD

[turbid locust]

[shell void]

every upscaling factor uses Model M in Cyberpunk when the override is set to Recommended in NVAPP

i got baited fr

[edgy laurel]

so it is stupid lol

[shell void]

idk why they renamed it from Latest to Recommended if it's still just forcing the latest model

[fringe vigil]

whats comman dpallete

[edgy laurel]

beyond what it says right there?

its a more advanced system search/launcher

vs. just using the start menu

[low sorrel]

can someone explain what the difference between service to others and volunteering is?

ain't they the same thing

[turbid locust]

https://www.google.com/search?q=can+someone+explain+what+the+difference+between+service+to+others+and+volunteering+is%3F&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS965US965&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

[low sorrel]

yeah i googled that and i don't get the difference

[turbid locust]

I can’t help you comprehend what you’re reading

[fickle narwhal]

https://youtube.com/shorts/or1xOmrotPQ?si=gDC9dReuMNq36EyG

[brisk jolt]

volunteering implies that its free and it can be indirect

service to others is more like a specifically direct thing and u may or may not be gettin paid

[indigo walrus]

What @brisk jolt said above. Volunteering is usually unpaid, while providing a Service to Others could be paid or unpaid. Depends on the service and what's all involved with providing it.

[low sorrel]

i need a new gpu

i can't even get 160 fps in hytale

[brisk jolt]

haha noob

[low sorrel]

💀

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/masked-fool-hibana-honkai-star-rail-sparxie-honkai-star-rail-hibana-hsr-sparxie-hsr-gif-6148878037404596276

[wraith steeple]

[topaz veldt]

Gonna be a spicy night @wraith steeple

[wraith steeple]

Oh?

[topaz veldt]

6 us air force refueling planes left base

[wraith steeple]

Ahhh

To Qatar? Or from rather?

Though Iran's regime has been radio silent as they're more or less seeing that the writing is on the wall

[topaz veldt]

Rumor is leaders son transferred money to escrow

Apparently they're gonna flee

[wraith steeple]

Khamenei's son, yeah?

I've heard through the grapevine that there were leaked emails between Khamenei and Xi of possible asylum request

[ripe needle]

Can anyone recommend a thrustmaster?

I'm looking at them but I'm unsure as to which to buy

[topaz veldt]

Gonna get spicy

[ripe needle]

I'm thinking of ordering this one since I haven't had a rig yet

I heard good things except that the throttle has no resistance

[spiral creek]

Is this sound not a good sign??

[low sorrel]

nothing ever happens

[topaz veldt]

Sir...

[spiral creek]

Ohhh i owned one before

Had one for a few years

[topaz veldt]

@low sorrel pizza places near the Pentagon have extended wait times ..

[low sorrel]

nothing

ever.

happens.

[topaz veldt]

Bro what.

[spiral creek]

Upgraded once I got a better job at the start of 2025 @ripe needle

[low sorrel]

no us air force planes have left air bases in qatar

[oak vector]

Sounds fun…….

[ripe needle]

Which one do you have?

[ripe needle]

I wanted to be a pilot but they said no cause I'm autistic 💔

[spiral creek]

Tbh I got em used off eBay @ripe needle

[wraith steeple]

Let my folks in my native region have this for once. We had suffered enough

[low sorrel]

nothing ever happens

[ripe needle]

Ah that's fair

[oak vector]

uh oh

[low sorrel]

no no this is the one time the us doesn't intervene in the middle east

[ripe needle]

Why don't they let autistic people wield weapons of mass destruction?

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-wrong-not-right-gif-14695153867752834726

[oak vector]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-angry-birds-gif-14664813930774351418

[topaz veldt]

It's going down brother

[oak vector]

…?

[low sorrel]

iranian airspace is not closed

[ripe needle]

I can't join the Air Force because I'm too autistic for them

Well I'm sure they'd let me join but they told me I can't be a fighter pilot

[oak vector]

I mean the Iran economy crash is comically bad

[wraith steeple]

It was self inflicted

[spiral creek]

I first got the Thrustmaster warthog throttle and stick off eBay for a bid of around 400 , then used it for about a few weeks then I after that I immediately bought a Winwing Orion 2 base with F-16EX off eBay as a bid but nobody else bid on it , got that one for a good deal of $245 @ripe needle

[low sorrel]

if it rounds to zero you fucked up

[oak vector]

that’s why I’ve avoided an ASD diagnosis haha
Did get an assessment done but nothing in writing 😉

[wraith steeple]

And not at all surprising to see the regime collapsing within itself

[spiral creek]

So now I use Thrustmaster Warthog throttle and WinWing Orion 2 with the F-16EX stick

[low sorrel]

f-16ex??

[oak vector]

Good time to invest in Iran /j

[low sorrel]

buy the dip

[oak vector]

hahaha same idea

[spiral creek]

I play mostly war thunder

[ripe needle]

That's awesome bro

I want the F16 stick

[ripe needle]

Same here

[low sorrel]

no no no tf is a f-16ex

[spiral creek]

It’s their name they give their product not an official name

[topaz veldt]

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/15/iran-briefly-closes-airspace-as-us-tensions-rise-flights-rerouted-across-region.html

Iranian airspace is closed

[ripe needle]

GGs

[spiral creek]

Winwing gave it the designation F-16EX for the amount of buttons they added

[ripe needle]

This is the goal

[spiral creek]

it’s like how the F-15EX has extra buttons

probably the reason

But I don’t know

[spiral creek]

Tbh don’t

get them off eBay used , you’ll save a lot of money

[low sorrel]

hey why are you using venezulan air defense systems?

[spiral creek]

especially Winwing

[ripe needle]

I will trust

But I think I'm gonna buy the cheap set before I get the expensive stuff

Just to see if it like it at least

[low sorrel]

buy once cry once

[spiral creek]

And try and get them as bids or at minimum “best offer”

[low sorrel]

until you don't like it and it sits unused for a decade

[ripe needle]

I'm gonna get one of these

[spiral creek]

Just whatever you do don’t buy the T.Flight HOTAS by Thrustmaster

[ripe needle]

I probably don't need a yaw control honestly

[spiral creek]

Huh?

The stick twists left and right

you can use that for rudder

[ripe needle]

That thing looks atrocious

[spiral creek]

that’s what I used the most

and it felt more natural tbh

[ripe needle]

I thought that's for roll and pedals are for yaw?

[spiral creek]

twisting for rudder is honestly easier than the rudder pedals

[ripe needle]

Ah alright

[low sorrel]

i still like rudder pedals more

[ripe needle]

Might as well get the pedals with it then

[spiral creek]

I mean not bending, I mean twisting in a circular motion

[ripe needle]

I'm very confused lol

I'm in a constant state of confusion

I've never used a stick so 😭

[spiral creek]

Ok think of how you rev a motorcycle, now imagine if it was a flight stick and how it’s vertical and not horizontal, that same motion is how you can control the yaw axis

it’s got a built in yaw axis

[low sorrel]

you twist it to the right to rudder right

you twist it to the left to ruder left

[spiral creek]

yes

[low sorrel]

simple

hi mark

[spiral creek]

I said it 5 different times 😭

https://tenor.com/view/tommy-wiseau-oh-hi-mark-hey-mark-gif-17296134

lmao 😂

[low sorrel]

damn mark whatcha typing

[terse maple]

I wonder what he has to say

[keen wigeon]

Dude came to fix a chip in my truck’s windshield. Asks what I do for work. I tell him, he says “Yeah just bought a 7700XT. My 1080 died.” I said “Hold on a second.” ran down to my office, grabbed an A6000 and brought it to him. “Can’t have you running that sludge my dude.”

[spiral creek]

First time this gif worked in context @low sorrel @keen wigeon

[low sorrel]

isn't that like 5k

[terse maple]

lol

[keen wigeon]

Sauce

[low sorrel]

oh the ampere one

[keen wigeon]

Correct, still a beast ass card.

[low sorrel]

i thought you gave away a a6000 ada

[keen wigeon]

Nah, not an ada.

[low sorrel]

i was like wtffff

[keen wigeon]

I needs them

It’s a 3090ish. Definitely better than a 7700xt

I hope.

[keen wigeon]

🤌

Good, it isn’t a big upgrade but he can run basically whatever he wants.

[spiral creek]

So you’re telling me I can switch my 3080 out for that one and it’s better for gaming?

[keen wigeon]

If you wanted to

[spiral creek]

I have a EVGA FTW3 3080

Think it’s 10 gb

[keen wigeon]

It just runs hot because it is a blower

[low sorrel]

dawg just buy a 5090

[keen wigeon]

Tweak the fan curve and it isn’t too bad

[spiral creek]

💀

wait how much is a RTX A6000?

[keen wigeon]

Apparently $6,000 on eBay

[spiral creek]

💀

You gave a dude a 6k card…

that’s wild

[keen wigeon]

I have 6 more

[low sorrel]

hey sauce me one

[keen wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-larry-david-hbo-hbo-max-meh-gif-24169087

He’s happy, I’m happy. Good stuff

[spiral creek]

that’s like the antique road show videos on how they find out they are holding something that cost 10x more than they were hoping for

[keen wigeon]

lol

I also have a giant ass pile of DDR5

Ye horde of gold

[spiral creek]

😭

And I can’t even get an email back from Corsair on when I asked for warranty on my ddr4

It died a month or two back

one stick died

[low sorrel]

i wonder if he knows it's worth 6k

[spiral creek]

I emailed them and nothing…

[keen wigeon]

He does

[spiral creek]

You should tell him to list it on eBay and sell it then secretly buy it back and resell it again 😈 @keen wigeon that way you both make 6k

[low sorrel]

what

[keen wigeon]

That math seems… wrong

[spiral creek]

lmao 😂

[low sorrel]

that's not how money works...

[keen wigeon]

Only eBay makes money on that deal lol

[low sorrel]

and the guy

[keen wigeon]

Right? Yeah

I’m tired. My brain hurt.

[low sorrel]

you lose 800 bucks

[spiral creek]

I was joking, I was basically doing the 3 stooges money joke @low sorrel @keen wigeon

[keen wigeon]

Ah I’m slow

[fervent elm]

Msi prebuilts arent proprietary garbage ya?
13700k and a 4070 one near me for 950 hmm

[keen wigeon]

Good stuff. Luckily that card? That card wasn’t one from work. I got that pre-NVIDIA employee time 🙂

[low sorrel]

they use cheap shit but standred shit

[keen wigeon]

I was sampled two of them before I started at NV.

[spiral creek]

The money joke I was referring to on the 3 stooges was When they borrowd money from each other but kept passing around the same amount until they were all even @keen wigeon

[keen wigeon]

Nice

[fervent elm]

Alright
Biggily considering it
950 reasonable?

[spiral creek]

https://youtube.com/shorts/T-g2rBauBsc?si=PZ7BWJqiE_vYwQV3 @keen wigeon

[low sorrel]

used or new?

[fervent elm]

Used

[keen wigeon]

Rabbble never mind.

[low sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/i-mean-its-alright-gif-26963792

actually i forgot ram is expensive now

[fervent elm]

It has 32gb of ddr5...5200
Might sell the board and the gold and do ddr4 but idk

[low sorrel]

i mean if you have some patience all ddr5 can be tuned to be good afaik

[brisk jolt]

wow im exhausted

and i still got school to go

[fervent elm]

5200 smells like a micron jedec turd

[ripe needle]

Ah I see

I didn't know that, I thought that's what the pedals were for

[ripe needle]

I love that album

[fervent elm]

Thank

[ripe needle]

MCR is great

[brisk jolt]

holy chad

[ripe needle]

Final boss

[fervent elm]

Yess

[ripe needle]

Yo mark I have a 4060 ✌️

[brisk jolt]

@low sorrel So, fun fact, I did a 5km run and now my right foot hurts like hell LOL

maybe i aint suited for this

[ripe needle]

I wonder why

[low sorrel]

maybe use your left foot more

[brisk jolt]

ive had complications last week as well where I’d get random cracks on my right foot and sharp pains

[ripe needle]

Maybe you're just doing it wrong

[brisk jolt]

its hard when your right side is the one that ur more in control of

[fervent elm]

Welp
Arranging to meet monday
920, negoshitater

Master of bad financial decisions

[keen wigeon]

🫡

I did order that newer cooler master NR200P V3 case and a new AIO. So… hopefully I can rebuild into that and get better thermals on my CPU.

It is ITX so I’m not going to be running cold but hopefully not thermal throttling. We will see.

[brisk jolt]

What chip and AIO u usin?

[keen wigeon]

9800x3D and whatever came with the nr200 v2 max

[brisk jolt]

9800x3d is hella easy to cool, you could get away with a AXP90-47 though temps will be in high 80s

Just… of course expect it to shit itself in its full 140w

If im not wrong, easiest to cool goes in the order of single CCD zen5 chips>ARL>dual CCD zen 5

[edgy laurel]

that case is huge and comes presetup with a 280mm aio

he'll be fine

[brisk jolt]

Yeah

[fierce blade]

quick question; win 10 ltsc shouldnt give you more input latency than regular win 11, right?

[brisk jolt]

Theres someone out there cooling his 285K with a 240mm Atmos 2 in a M2

[fierce blade]

cause i installed win 10 ltsc (from win 11) (and did the proper post-install setup) and i get significantly more fps in valorant, but the game latency stat is almost double what it was.
i played a few games and the latency made it almost unplayable

[edgy laurel]

run of the mill misconfiguration somewhere

[fierce blade]

the thing is

my win 11 install is over optimized to the point where it possibly adds overhead

[edgy laurel]

but if you're getting "significantly" more fps, whatever you are comparing to was also misconfigured in some way. there isn't enough of a difference to magically free up so much performance

[fierce blade]

but somehow stock win 10, stock win 11, and win 10 ltsc have this latency issue

[edgy laurel]

yeah there is no "latency" issue with vanilla win 11

something else is going on there

[indigo walrus]

Can confirm. Have been running vanilla Windows 11 Pro since Fall 2022 without any sort of "latency" issues.

[fierce blade]

nvidia overlay says im averaging around 8-11ms full system latency(before disabling it, after disabling it i felt the same issue)

i can confirm that it is wrong

[edgy laurel]

8-11ms end to end latency is absurdly low

you're not noticing that as a human

[fierce blade]

disabling hyperthreading does help a bit, but its still worse than my win 11 install with ht on

[pure garnet]

you realize this is an antonym right

[fierce blade]

yes

[edgy laurel]

like pac-man over here, chasing ghosts

[fierce blade]

ive changed so much that it prolly made it worse at some point

[pure garnet]

windows 11 does have an updated kernel, patches to boost amd perf did happen

but that won't change valorant much at all

you get playable fps on haswell igpus

[fierce blade]

playable is 144+

for valorant and other esports fps games

or maybe competitvely viable

is a better term

[brisk jolt]

haswell is all we all need

[pure garnet]

4300m (ancient dinosaur laptop) is doing about 720p 40-60 which is kinda funny

[fierce blade]

should i try benchmarking w10 ltsc (tweaked), installing stock win11, touch nothing, benchmark it, debloat it, tweak it, bench again, and compare the numbers with my main w11 install?

[pure garnet]

no you should just install an operating system and stick with it

[edgy laurel]

and play the game

[fierce blade]

i tried playing the game today

on win 10 ltsc

[pure garnet]

if you're talking about 8ms latency it's all in your head man

[fierce blade]

that number isnt accurate

bro im on an i3 12th gen

and a 2060 super

i am NOT getting 9ms end to end latency

[brisk jolt]

imagine if the entire time his ping was at 80ms

[hexed karma]

In a minute I can link you a YouTube video to help debloat windows 11 is came in clutch when I was in my laptop

[edgy laurel]

could just turn the overlay off and play

[fierce blade]

did that?

it feels horrendous

[frank cypress]

of course windows decides to explode itself for no fucking reason

[pure garnet]

why are you installing windows 10 ltsc anyway

[hexed karma]

What games are you playing just for reference

[pure garnet]

you have hardware capable of running 11

[frank cypress]

wahh windows 11 is bad

[pure garnet]

fr

[frank cypress]

must windows 10 wahhhhhh

[fierce blade]

20ms ping, 0.2ms jitter, fully fiber, cat8 ethernet 2.5Gbps up and down

[keen wigeon]

The itx case? It’s a teeny little thing

[frank cypress]

actually windows 11 is bad but not because 11 is bad, it's because windows is bad in general

[fierce blade]

valorant

[keen wigeon]

I’m also running a 6000 Blackwell in it

🫠

[edgy laurel]

in SFF land its enormous 😆

[keen wigeon]

True lol

[pure garnet]

linux users explaining how spending 45 minutes debugging why something isn't working in a compability layer is preferable to unpinning something from the taskbar every 6 months

[fierce blade]

sadly i dont have a choice but to run windows because of the valorant anticheat (vanguard) being reliant on the windows kernel

[brisk jolt]

as long as its below 20L its considered SFF

[frank cypress]

no im bitching again because windows hates this pc

[pure garnet]

i boot into linux to write c++ stuff then reboot back to windows when it's time to play games

[frank cypress]

random ass srttrail error today

https://tenor.com/view/joe-angry-emotiguy-angry-emoji-angry-angry-fire-gif-5480122031082917977

[hexed karma]

Can only assume you optimized settings and have v sync disabled, also remember to disable g sync and I think if you can disable reflex low latency in Val settings then do that, generally better to enable reflex through the nvidia control panel for these games

[frank cypress]

honestly though, windows has been pretty good on my other pc after reinstalling

only had one crash in like... 7 months???? but it's because i did something funny in zbrush

[fierce blade]

done all that and tested a/b every one of those settings individually

[frank cypress]

and my pc didn't like that for some reason

[brisk jolt]

ive stopped having crashes after going from my 9070xt to 5090

except for the statistics overlay shitting itself everytime

[frank cypress]

deserved for buying into amdip

@keen wigeon doin one last funny before i part with some of these cards

[brisk jolt]

its not a bad card itself- It still lacks in a good featureset outside gaming and driver timeouts galore for me

whatever their video upscaler is sucks balls

[fierce blade]

2080S?

[brisk jolt]

i also had the toughest time choosing the display’s colour settings on AMD and couldnt replicate what I want

Only really managed to get one I liked on my laptop

[hexed karma]

@fierce blade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRYr9VNQGhg

[pure garnet]

dude just run the os

[fierce blade]

calypto's guide is likely better

[hexed karma]

Chris Titus Tech Utility Script was the biggest one for me but some of the regedit tweaks helped

[teal orbit]

How to Fully Optimize Your PC for Gaming in 10 Minutes

[pure garnet]

there is no reason to be doing all this shit lmfao

[teal orbit]

the top tier of technology here

[fierce blade]

already used chris titus script

[hexed karma]

idk who that is i'm just tryna help with what worked for me

[teal orbit]

The ryzen users want the debloating because they need it

[hexed karma]

bro asked how to lower input latency not for what i think ab it

[fierce blade]

at my peak i was top 50 in valorant

there is a legit advantage to be doing those things when you're at a high level

[hexed karma]

W for being on an i3

[brisk jolt]

16 gb peasants explaining why we should delete windows telemetry AI tracking and our balls just for a reduction in 2GB of the base OS’s consumption

[fierce blade]

2015 144hz too

[pure garnet]

no there isn't

[brisk jolt]

32GB and above owners are just chillin

[pure garnet]

gonna let u in on a little secret

[fierce blade]

are you at that level? do you play fps games competitively?

[hexed karma]

recently moved to 240hz and have seen an instant improvement in my stats

[teal orbit]

are you talking about input latency or what

[fierce blade]

yes

[hexed karma]

what about it

[pure garnet]

just own a decent cpu, no 5 hours of tweaking needed

[teal orbit]

I don't think debloating your system is gonna help with that unless you have a really fucked up ewaste CPU scheduler installed somehow

Aka no

[brisk jolt]

we’re* gonna let him in on a little secret

[pure garnet]

fr

[fierce blade]

so youre saying "ur broke get money"

[hexed karma]

But he doesn’t so he’s gonna need to tweak some things to make the most of what he has 😭

[fierce blade]

instead of trying to be useful

[brisk jolt]

ur broke get money

[teal orbit]

get a VRR monitor and run it with vsync + vrr at half the max framerate, that'll help a lot more methinks

[brisk jolt]

aint noone care if ur top 50 in a shitty game at ur “peak”

[pure garnet]

rank 3 valorant player probably some 14 year old playing on a half broken laptop

[fierce blade]

im a 17 yo college student in debt who is severely underweight due to not being able to afford meals

[fierce blade]

thats wrong

[brisk jolt]

and ur out here trynna say ur “top 50” in valorant

[fierce blade]

i am?

[pure garnet]

yeah spend more time at a job then comp queue 💯

[brisk jolt]

all the radiants in valorant are unemployed

[edgy laurel]

i feel like those with game skill will wipe the floor with the obsessive pc tweakers on a stock best buy pre-built.

[fierce blade]

im a full time college student

[teal orbit]

I need to become a rank 3 valorant player just to debunk this

[brisk jolt]

if u have a job u realistically aint making it out of the stone ranks

[pure garnet]

so am i, i still have a job lmfao

[fierce blade]

i built my pc

[pure garnet]

linus literally just made a video on this

[brisk jolt]

u talk as if some of us also arent full time college students with jobs LOL

[hexed karma]

if the biggest argument for "you don't need to optimize ur pc" is "someone at ur level won't even benefit" then i think them playing at a high level is relevant info 😭

[fierce blade]

the amount of ego u guys have is crazy

[teal orbit]

Based

[edgy laurel]

at a certain point your hardware isn't holding you back, you're just not as good

[pure garnet]

it took like 150ms or so of latency to mess up pros enough to let uncs win

[fierce blade]

im already top level, but have noticed a problem which severely limits my own performance

[hexed karma]

ngl i came in here awhile ago with a similar issue bc i was trying to daily drive linux and that convo didn't get very far

[brisk jolt]

yeah you’re underweight and instead of finding a way to feed urself ur playing v a l o r a n t to be “top level” buying skins

[teal orbit]

All I was trying to say is that the debloating probably doesn't have any effect because we don't live in 1985 with terrible schedulers anymore

[edgy laurel]

and it sounds ilke you're problem is all the unknown weird crap your're doing to your PC

[brisk jolt]

Just sayin, the time you spent to be “top level” in a game we were working getting actual hardware with actual value

[hexed karma]

bro's playing at a high level with sub par hw i think it's worthwhile to try and level the playing field as much as possible

[fierce blade]

no, cause the same issue happens on stock installs

[brisk jolt]

watch he’s gonna say he’s immortal 1 in valorant

[teal orbit]

What even is the problem

[edgy laurel]

i'm not going to tell you to get better hardware. not everyone can just drop the cash whenever they feel like it, thats a silly suggestion anyway

[hexed karma]

he was top #50

[pure garnet]

rocking that operagx game booster

[brisk jolt]

“was” could literally be like 5 years ago

[fierce blade]

i was radiant like 6mo ago, before i had to take a break for school

[pure garnet]

tbf the buy better hardware came from the "no actually stripping windows is required to play video games well"

[fierce blade]

im still immo 1, but season just reset

[hexed karma]

stop trying to make excuses to not help them bc ur bored and just exit the convo bro

[brisk jolt]

boom big red flag

[pure garnet]

if your computer is struggling to run the operating system then replacing the hardware is a reasonable suggestion

[teal orbit]

At your peak you were on an Intel i3, at my peak I was on an i3wm clone

[brisk jolt]

whats ur problem say right now

[fierce blade]

no i was actually on an i5 4570 when i hit top 50 :)

[teal orbit]

that makes the pun not work so I don't like it

[brisk jolt]

how do we know if he also isnt capping or whatever

[fierce blade]

just admit some people are better than you

[brisk jolt]

What if he’s just faking his ego as well?

[hexed karma]

if someone asks a question either help or keep it pushing shaming them does nothing

[fierce blade]

youre the textbook definition of ego rn

omg

[teal orbit]

hey wait a minute what if you're faking and debloating is real 🤔 📐

[brisk jolt]

oh man I totally wanna admit ur better than me in a game I dont even play

[fierce blade]

^

[teal orbit]

there's no illuminati emoji

[teal orbit]

That was a joke by the way

[fierce blade]

you resort to flexing things you own because i have more skill than you

[brisk jolt]

I’ve tried and all it rly does was just reduce ram usage

[fierce blade]

LMAO

[pure garnet]

i've stripped windows installs to gain tenths of a second in ycruncher but that's why i know this is all theater anyway

[brisk jolt]

And the time I’ve spent working for this value is way more than ur skills in a dying game

[fierce blade]

do u know what goes in becoming better at things?

[teal orbit]

playing the game probabky

[brisk jolt]

all you valorant people just think you’re “him” LMAO

[fierce blade]

its not just about being good at a game but about learning the right mindset when it comes to improvement

i can get good at things easier than most thanks to this

[brisk jolt]

what’re u gonna say, Im trash at a game I dont even play like at all?

[hexed karma]

reducing ram usage by 2gb affects someone with only 8gb more than it does someone with 32. a lot of tweaks that do nothing on my current rig made games playable when i was on a laptop with intel hd graphics

[fierce blade]

im closer to that intel hd pc

[hexed karma]

then why are you acting like an authority on whether or not they're good enough to even ask about reducing latency if you don't even understand the benefits in this context

[brisk jolt]

dude if ur hardware is lagging behind and you feel a need to then find ways to overcome the hurdle, you’ve found ur solution in valorant why not irl?

[pure garnet]

stripped os

unstripped os

[teal orbit]

there rarely is a tangible effect of reducing your ram usage unless you're actually truly running out of memory

[pure garnet]

and this is cut down way more than your fortnite tweaks are, this has no audio support at all

[fierce blade]

? im in class 30h a week and i also live alone

i do not have time for a job

[brisk jolt]

dude is still talking like we also arent

[hexed karma]

i was actually out of memory bc win 11 uses a lot even when idle. i have to use tarkov's ram cleaner function several times throughout a raid lest my game crashes

[fierce blade]

i also have to do school work at home maybe 15h a week (2h a day)

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-raccoon-absolute-cinema-gif-17862327649353748812

[teal orbit]

win 11 on my PC uses < 2 GiB idle funny enough

[pure garnet]

you have 6 hours of lecture daily? how many credit hours are you enrolled in?

[fierce blade]

my main hobby isnt even valorant but music production

[brisk jolt]

the time you spent into valorant couldve been spent into working and planning out your future path like man

[fierce blade]

idk tbh

[hexed karma]

he just said he's a full time student 😭

[fierce blade]

i come from a lower middle class family (treading on poverty ngl)

[pure garnet]

a full time student is 12-15 credit hours

6 hours of lectures a daily implies 2x that

[teal orbit]

Did you install all the drivers from the default motherboard CD or something because I don't understand how stuff gets so bloated

[brisk jolt]

I also do lol

[fierce blade]

i said 30h but its more like 20h in class and 10h of commute

i have to walk to college

30min walk, 4x a day (2x back n forth)

[hexed karma]

user of many master of none, i have audio drivers for my interface, discord, teamspeak, obs sometimes, etc etc

right now windows has 50% ram usage and i'm only actively on discord

which is responsible for 1gb

[pure garnet]

because they're counting "idle" as most of their stuff open

[hexed karma]

i count idle as what boots with my pc as i disable all the things i don't actively use on startup

[pure garnet]

that's not how you measure os idle use

[edgy laurel]

cache prefetching is a basic function and has been for decades

[brisk jolt]

I have 29 hours of class in a week and yet Im still working part time 1.5 days/week and during holidays I also am working 4-6 days per week

[teal orbit]

part of the ram usage might be cache though

[pure garnet]

having programs open at launch is straight up not idling

[teal orbit]

It's hard to quantify memory usage in general though

[hoary hatch]

Then there's business students who somehow only have 3 hours of lectures a week only on Tuesday mornings

[hexed karma]

yeah if you're a bureaucrat hyper focused on terms used objectively rather than how they're perceived in practice

[pure garnet]

memory usage is only used for 2 things, shilling linux and justifying purchases of ram you don't need

[teal orbit]

my Linux "uses" more ram idle than my windows rn, I think btop does some messed up logic for subtracting cache

[pure garnet]

how can i trust someone to know what os tweaks are mandatory when they don't understand idling though

[hexed karma]

idk im a relativistic man who values context

[edgy laurel]

We need a channel where everyone has to post their Startup tab in Task Manager for public ridicule

[hexed karma]

why would i buy a cpu that's "20%" faster according to benchmarks when the fps yield is basically the same as my current one

[teal orbit]

can i post my systemctl --user list-dependencies graphical-session.target

[brisk jolt]

the moment he said valorant and high rank or whatever I stopped pulling my arguments back lmao

[hexed karma]

what arguments you were just ragebaiting

[brisk jolt]

nobody gon convince me anyone there isnt a bum

[pure garnet]

i love running debloat scripts and blowing up my operating system

[edgy laurel]

linux nerds not allowed. no one has any idea what all that means anyway 😆

[pure garnet]

yeah go for it

[teal orbit]

I think it might be my start apps

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

[teal orbit]

oh don't even get started on the fact that allocated memory might not even be used

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/bryan-cranston-oh-dear-god-omg-offended-cant-gif-10147105

[teal orbit]

because it doesn't get allocated pages until actually written to

[hexed karma]

give it to me straight - is it terminal?

[pure garnet]

free() is not real

[hoary hatch]

Oh

[teal orbit]

we have the worlds safest garbage collector, its called exit()

[hoary hatch]

Apparently Verizon was down today

[teal orbit]

no more studying memory management

[brisk jolt]

why’re we even on MEMORY? valorant does not even eat 16GB with the regular apps open

[edgy laurel]

do you not enjoy being able to use your computer upon login or something? sheesh

[teal orbit]

Well, I just tried to boot my windows 11 to test memory usage but apparently my cursor has disappeared

[hexed karma]

the only pop ups are steam and discord everything else is pretty much plugin liscencing because everything needs an internet connection these days

[pure garnet]

if my windows install with ~7 services running on managed to shave 0.02s off a calculation of pi to 1b digits i wonder how that's supposed to improve valorant performance

[teal orbit]

My windows has just killed itself

[brisk jolt]

Like all the non regulars here have 0 clue what they’re talking about

Jn i was literally the reality checker

[hexed karma]

you were the ragebait

[brisk jolt]

u also dont know what ur talking about

[teal orbit]

alright this os is a joke

[brisk jolt]

you literally gave nothing useful at all other than being an unwanted party

[hexed karma]

ironic

[teal orbit]

Apparently my windows does not boot to only 1.9 GiB ram idle anymore

[edgy laurel]

When are people going to finally learn that chasing the lowest possible idle RAM usage is meaningless and represents a fundemental misunderstanding with how modern OSes manage memory?

[brisk jolt]

“W for having i3” go back to #public-chat LMAO

[teal orbit]

It's a kernel moment

[teal orbit]

not even the good i3 either

[hexed karma]

no way you scrolled up just to see if you won a pointless argument

[brisk jolt]

now ur just making excuses

[teal orbit]

as you know by now, nothing ever happens

[hexed karma]

i think beating people on 7800x3d's and 240hz+ on a "not even good" i3 and a 144hz monitor is impressive ngl

[pure garnet]

literally never

ram use discourse has existed as long as ram

[brisk jolt]

so having a 360hz 9800x3d means every 1v1 interaction I have with the other guy on 144hz means I 100% automatically win the fight

[hexed karma]

you give me ram i ask "is it enough?"

[edgy laurel]

😭

[teal orbit]

just buy a 64G kit

and then only use like 6

[hexed karma]

the odds are in your favor and at that level people are actively trying to improve so a lot of fundamental mistakes are ironed out. if you win a basketball 1 on 1 as a 5'6 man that doesn't make you good, if you do the same thing against an NBA player i'd say that's legendary

[hexed karma]

buying a 9850x3d for roblox fnaf

[brisk jolt]

so we’re also gonna iron out that in a real match its a 5v5 and not a 1v1

i fucking hate valorant players with a passion

[hexed karma]

i don't play valorant 😭

i play cs2 and tarkov

and the occasional game with friends like peak

[brisk jolt]

Im sorry but dude, what you’ve been saying to me has been complete bullsh*t while I was giving him a reality check

the only part where I was intentionally “ragebaiting” was when he said “u broke get a job” or what not and I just copied him

[hexed karma]

just because you don't understand the game and can't properly consider their perspective. in these communties questions like "how can i get my game to feel better when i'm playing" are common

[pure garnet]

yes and the snake oil gaming tweaks are not required

[brisk jolt]

my guy he has other priorities over getting better gaming experience that HE IS NOT FOLLWING

[hexed karma]

like the thing about nvidia reflex - enabling in game in cs2 was bugged and would cause frame time issues that, on paper, are non-issues but feel much worse in practice

[hexed karma]

they're not all snake oil and on low end systems can actually make a difference if you're able to isolation protential problem areas. disabling adobe services probably won't effect a 9800x3d as much as a fucking i3

[pure garnet]

they are snake oil

[frank cypress]

huh

[pure garnet]

a 12100 is considerably faster than the cpu in this test and they're hitting the threshold he himself considered playable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0s2GN2XCfM

[brisk jolt]

lets be fr every valorant player who has an idea of what they’re doing is setting everything to low regardless

[frank cypress]

as it turns out, 3dmark kinda doesn't know what to think when you have more than 3 cards in their result page lol

[pure garnet]

alder lake p cores aren't that slow actually

[frank cypress]

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/61306620
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/61306765

[hexed karma]

0.1% low of 45fps achieved in the middle of a gunfight yeah man that's awesome

[pure garnet]

https://tenor.com/bRXAM.gif

[hexed karma]

this is literally the point of optimization guides 😭

you can look at the 200+ fps all you want but if it's dropping at the most crucial moment then what's the point

[brisk jolt]

I can assure you my laptop went from 110 fps to 111 fps after the optimisation guide

[pure garnet]

show quantifiable and measurable data then that those os tweaks will raise it

[hexed karma]

lmao

[pure garnet]

repeatable testing should be easy to do as well

[fierce blade]

i went from getting 400 fps in this EXACT position to like 740 after installing win 10 ltsc

today

[hexed karma]

so you know what's about to happen

cause frankly i don't care to argue

if you care you'll seek it out, but i'm not prepared to engage with this convo

[teal orbit]

Just enabled the kernel stack protection setting in defender on my moms laptop

[pure garnet]

you've just spent like an hour doing it but when asked for any ounce of proof you don't care?

[cold void]

i’m having issues with my pc shutting off with no warning while gaming

[fierce blade]

?

[brisk jolt]

imagine if the entire time he doesnt have XMP enabled

[pure garnet]

for once, not u twin

[fierce blade]

thats the install with latency btw, i get like 50% more fps, but also a lot more latency.

[hexed karma]

i've been speaking from personal experience not things i've read online. i could run benchmarks on my laptop but i do not care to do so

a computer enthusiasts worst nightmare - anecdotes

[brisk jolt]

remind me- why’re you chasing more than 400 fps on a 144hz monitor

[cold void]

9900kf 32gb ddr4 3600 1tb nvme 3060ti 600w psu

[hexed karma]

more fps reduces input lag this is common sense

[fierce blade]

thats in a controlled exact spot in a lightweight gamemode

[teal orbit]

That one is mildly real because marginally lower input latency

[fierce blade]

in game i went from like 140avg to 250avg

[brisk jolt]

he is already getting 400 fps, limiting it to 200 for that reason is literally enough

[pure garnet]

4k max because i don't care to find the same spot you're standing in

[brisk jolt]

ur not gonna notice the input lag from 400 to 200

[fierce blade]

im not in the range

[pure garnet]

1080p

[fierce blade]

im gonna notice it when u read the example i gave u

[pure garnet]

0 os tweaks, game runs on everything

[hexed karma]

9800x3d btw

[teal orbit]

2.5ms average frametime vs 5ms average frametime

[fierce blade]

tweaked my friends 7800x3d and he gets 1600fps there btw

also on a 3080

[pure garnet]

im sure if i ran the game at 1080p low i would get more too

but i wasn't so

[fierce blade]

valorant is cpu dependant

like most esports games

[pure garnet]

uh huh

[teal orbit]

Alright why is it called Windows Security now, and defender is some completely different unrelated thing

[brisk jolt]

didnt he answer his own question on the “install with 50% more fps but more latency”

[fierce blade]

lowering graphics likely wont give u more perf unless youre gpu bound

[pure garnet]

the gpu has no bearing on a 4k 4xMSAA config?

[fierce blade]

not if youre cpu limited?

the 9800x3d is likely the bottleneck in ur system for valorant

lol

[brisk jolt]

yes mom we need 9800x3d getting 1000 fps for the 540hz monitor

[pure garnet]

here let's toss up riva tuner here

[fierce blade]

its not about the avg fps but the 0.1/1% lows

also during in game scenarios you will see your config dip below 500

[pure garnet]

might come as a shocker, but at4k with 4x msaa, the 5070ti is the bottleneck here

[hexed karma]

i was trying to tell them this they linked a video of someone averaging 200+ that dropped to 40 when they got in a gunfight

[fierce blade]

well youre on 4k, no one uses 4k in val LOL

[arctic bronze]

what cpu?

[hexed karma]

can you do 1440p

[teal orbit]

The wallpaper on my windows 11 has just disappeared

[fierce blade]

do 1080 fullscreen exclusive

[pure garnet]

9800x3d

[fierce blade]

thats me

[pure garnet]

that’s the dumbest thing i’ve heard

like half of us here that play all play at 4k

[arctic bronze]

huh?

[fierce blade]

? do you even play valorant