tech-chat-2

[remote vault]

rumours are just that there will be one and base model with a pro chip is $2,000 rn

[low sorrel]

kyoko do you think that arc raiders at 2256x1504 on max graphics with rt enabled will be too much for my igpu laptop?

[remote vault]

or just go for the cheaper macbook with the iphone chip for like $600 or whatever it will be

ips screen and prob still will have the annoying notch though

[turbid locust]

@pure garnet @merry stirrup @topaz veldt @shell void I will be fucking out of town on a work trip for the 9850X3D release day

[remote vault]

and the chip kinda mid id just get a $900 macbook air if i wanted one tbh

[strong quarry]

alr

[shell void]

panther lake

[pure garnet]

they announced a real date?

[eager elm]

Theyre doing something new wit the airs aswell correct?

[remote vault]

panther lake seems cool

[strong quarry]

only reason im debating is i can get a 5800x locally for 150

[turbid locust]

no but theoretical date

[remote vault]

im interested in nova lake though

[pure garnet]

if you need the cores a 5800x would be nice

[strong quarry]

or this for half price new

[remote vault]

52-core cpu with 3d-vcache seems interesting

even if 75% of them are efficiency cores

[pure garnet]

the 5500 is so cut down it's closer to a 3600 in games

it's really not worth the money

[strong quarry]

got it

[turbid locust]

the 5500 is the “I want to do 5000MT/s on DDR4” cpu

[remote vault]

no clue but they are making a base macbook that is cheaper than the air with the iphone chip in it if thats what you are thinking of

[strong quarry]

tbh tho even 3000 series is an improvement over an 1800x and given rtx 2000 launched in like 2018 that would've been top of the line at the time

[topaz veldt]

I'll buy one for you and mail you it

[turbid locust]

thanks

[topaz veldt]

Also @turbid locust do we even have the launch date

[turbid locust]

no lol

[low sorrel]

playable

[turbid locust]

but Jan 29th feels right idk how to explain it

[topaz veldt]

I know what you mean

[pure garnet]

im all set and ready

[wraith steeple]

[low sorrel]

imma go stella montis free kit like this

[pure garnet]

watch my registry get stuck like this now

[turbid locust]

shoulda done 9950X3D2

[pure garnet]

i’m too lazy to change core count

[burnt socket]

gulp

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel I am at like 6:40 on this, but its bringing back nightmares of my Land Rover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8ixg87X8AM

I had a blown headgasket where the fire ring blew out into the crank case side of the engine with no oil or coolant loss

[low sorrel]

so that went poorly

mf had an el toro i was fucked

[low sorrel]

WTF my battery went from 75 to 15 in this timespan

25*

[topaz veldt]

framework

?

[low sorrel]

yeah

[frank zealot]

@turbid locust
Gigabenchy

[turbid locust]

lol sick

[frank zealot]

dumb as hell, but awesome

[brisk jolt]

msi on their way to pair PTL with a fuckass IPS screen on handhelds istg

[shell void]

dont manifest such devastating outcomes

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/ricky-bobby-gif-3479536

[low sorrel]

MSI: No IPS? TN instead then.

[turbid locust]

Either way I’m not sure if I’m interested in a >$500 handheld

[brisk jolt]

NOOOO-

[pure garnet]

oled fans explaining how their display that burnt in irreversibly after 6 minutes of ownership

[wraith steeple]

https://www.performance-pcs.com/products/singularity-computers-420mm-x60-radiator
Honestly..... That's actually not that bad compared to EK's and even Alphacool's equivalent

[uncut venture]

Tugga!

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/archer-you-what-huh-gif-19676334

[uncut venture]

upon review, this isn't tugger 🙁

note the larger smokestack behind the cabin

[frank zealot]

Now you not only need space for a 420mm rad

But also 4-5" of thickness clearance

[wraith steeple]

I have a few chassis that do

My Meshify 2 XL and 7000D

And both are fairly massive

but I promised my dad to upgrade his racing sim rig so that will have to wait for now

[brisk jolt]

moza R25

[wraith steeple]

Or rig rather

Man I'm tired as all hell

[steel stream]

@edgy laurel I think Godzilla Minus One might be one of my top 5 HDR movies, just rewatched it and man is it awesome

[brisk jolt]

Moza R25 rig with load cell pedals, 3x 32” 4k 240hz OLED monitors

[edgy laurel]

interesting. will have to check it out again. i think I wasn't too into it

[brisk jolt]

buy once cry once 💀 🗣️

[wraith steeple]

[steel stream]

it's my 2nd favorite godzilla movie, first is shin godzilla but that one I can see would be too boring for people

you have to watch godzilla minus one up until the first atomic breath scene at least

[teal spindle]

How good is the 3060ti in 2025

Should I consider upgrading it with my 5800x3d

[eager elm]

Idk it’s 2026

[dawn plover]

performance is equal or better than a PS5

it'll run most modern games no problem as long as you're fine with tweaking some graphics settings

[brisk jolt]

pretty shit

[eager elm]

This might sound dumb but if I’m going from 1080 to 1440 with a 5700x and a 3080 will my performance increase?

[keen wigeon]

What do you want to run? That vram buffer will support a pipeline vs one or two teeny tiny models running.

[teal spindle]

Should I upgrade the GPU to something better and what would be good?

[edgy laurel]

If you're increasing the render resolution? No, it will do the opposite

[brisk jolt]

5060ti 16gb or 9060XT 16GB

Else get a 5070 or 5070ti if ur budget’s higher

[edgy laurel]

better than a 3060Ti (that came out 5 years ago)?

[teal spindle]

The 3060ti has been doing great for my purposes

[eager elm]

This again might sound dumb but is it because Minecraft is so cpu dependent? To the point where me better gpu wont make a difference?

[edgy laurel]

you've been missing out, or you need a higher res display

[brisk jolt]

If you feel like your 3060ti is still good for whatever you play, keep it. Our standards and views are differs from person to person

Our opinion is that a 3060Ti gets smoked

[dawn plover]

higher resolution will decrease frame rate usually

[mild sentinel]

budget tho 🤔

[edgy laurel]

doesn't work that way. the GPU certainly matters when you start throwing mods and shaders in (4K, Bliss shaders + a bunch of other stuff)

[eager elm]

Do you expect it to be a noticable decrease?

[teal spindle]

But do I need to upgrade my GPU?

[hoary hatch]

It's so very pretty

[edgy laurel]

not if you use things like DLSS where available

[eager elm]

I pretty much strictly play vanilla and get around 340 fps on 32 rd can I expect around 280 or lower on 1440?

[edgy laurel]

need is relative. if you're happy withthe game you play at the settings they're set to at your current display resolution and have no plans to upgrade it, then no

[hoary hatch]

I meant to reply to you
Good movie + it's gorgeous

[edgy laurel]

no one can answer that

[teal spindle]

It runs black myth wukong just fine, and tbh that's all I need it to do at the top end due to how unoptimized games are

[edgy laurel]

hit up youtube or something and start watching minecraft at 1440p videos

[wise bear]

[eager elm]

Is it possible for me to boot Minecraft as if I was playing at 1440?

Like upscale it

[edgy laurel]

Sure, with legacy DSR

[hoary hatch]

I need to add shaders to Minecraft

I heard optifine is uncool in 2026

[dawn plover]

It's always funny to me to hear enthusiasts crap on older/budget hardware meanwhile you have people gaming on old integrated graphics who are content. We have this consumer culture that tells people they need the latest, but oftentimes it's so wasteful

[edgy laurel]

In your Nvidia app, Graphics > Global, Set the legacy scaling option that best matches 2560x1440

[eager elm]

okay thank you

[edgy laurel]

my options will not match your options as i'm starting at 4K

then ensure you have the resolution you picked set in Windows

then you're effectively running a "1440p" display

[hoary hatch]

It's not perfect, but selling your old hardware and buying new stuff second hand is a decent step to reducing waste

[edgy laurel]

mods folder from the video above

[hoary hatch]

Wtf there's a lithium

[edgy laurel]

shader

[hoary hatch]

Are any of those gonna get me banned from a server by accident

[low sorrel]

no no no 3x of these https://www.lg.com/ca_en/monitors/gaming/45gx950a-b/

[edgy laurel]

i dunno, ask @steel stream

[hoary hatch]

Akn get your butt in here

[edgy laurel]

all I do with minecraft is boot it up and look at it, i don't actually "play" it

[low sorrel]

15360x2160 res lol

[wraith steeple]

@topaz veldt Just bought the Radikult HYT60 I was looking at not too long ago. Mainly since I don't have to change a whole lot and saves me a bit that way. Tis about time I bought Mario's stuff

[teal spindle]

I am gonna order a triple monitor mount

[wise bear]

ok

[teal spindle]

Currently on a double monitor mount and tbh I have felt the need for that triple monitor one

[edgy laurel]

sounds like you just need one single better monitor

no one needs more 1080p monitors in 2026

[turbid locust]

nobody one needs any 1080p monitors in 2026

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/burnt-peanut-the-burnt-peanut-mmhmm-mmhm-mmhm-gif-8170698848261710513

[frank zealot]

why are SSL Certs so goddamned annoying

network solutions can't validate the fucking CSR out of our server software now

[turbid locust]

Skill issue

[frank zealot]

100% on their end

on chat w support, sent them the CSR and they can't make the software go either

their next solution?
Refund the cert and i re-buy it

(the order I submitted was the damned CSR)

[brisk jolt]

1080p? Jokes on you my 1080p is vertically mounted effectively making it 1920p! /s

[steel stream]

shouldn't

[turbid locust]

I run two 1440p’s vertically flanking my 4K TV lmao

[steel stream]

yeah was an awesome watch, even the surround is very well done. I am excited for the new one in november

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-tie-fighter-tie-fighters-the-rise-of-skywalker-first-order-gif-21441670

[turbid locust]

💯

I only marginally regret not buying the 48”

well not really

[steel stream]

just buy it next time

[turbid locust]

real

[eager elm]

i dont thik a java benchmark exist for these specs

[edgy laurel]

my dude..

and it scrolls and scrolls

like the most popular game on the planet

and a 3080...

You can use this information to ive yourself a general idea what to expect

you're never going to find your EXACT specs but you don't need to with some critical thinking

[eager elm]

I meant vanilla because I mainly play vanilla, also isnt minecraft prodominently cpu based so wouldnt it be more accurate to watch one with my cpu

[turbid locust]

not with shaders

[edgy laurel]

drop this notion of "cpu based", its pointless and is hurting your understanding

[eager elm]

i dont play with shaders

[edgy laurel]

there is far more nuance to that statement than you're realizing

"cpu based" doesn't mean "only the CPU matters"

[turbid locust]

then you can literally max out Minecraft with a 1660

[edgy laurel]

its up there with "bottleneck" in terms/phrases beginners throw around but don't understand at all

[eager elm]

i unfortunately dont max it out at 32 rd

[edgy laurel]

if you want an idea how minecraft will perform at 1440p, its a few clicks away

[eager elm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kWqVBFxQeU

yeah i found one , 1k views

[edgy laurel]

you should be able to extrapolate a general idea with the hundreds and thousands of videos out there

[turbid locust]

5600x + 3080 should have absolutely no issues with Minecraft even at 32 render distance

[fervent chasm]

4600U iGPU can run vanilla in 1080p at 60FPS with 8 RD lol

[turbid locust]

install performance mods if you’re really that concerned

Sodium takes about 4 seconds to install

Nvidium works too

[eager elm]

im on a 5700x and get dips to like 150-160 fps

with sodium at 1080p

[turbid locust]

oh the humanity

[eager elm]

its just annoying when I get a very noticable dip in the middle of a game

[fervent chasm]

Dip from what

[turbid locust]

It is Java Minecraft

[steel stream]

idk if youll ever be able to stop that

[turbid locust]

It’s going to dip

[eager elm]

yes

[steel stream]

shit happens

[eager elm]

380

[fervent chasm]

Is that during chunk rendering?

[steel stream]

just use performance mods or smth

[turbid locust]

Monitor refresh rate?

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/expedition-33-gustave-run-gif-16049178013470622846

[eager elm]

280

[turbid locust]

lock your fps to 280 and live life

[fervent chasm]

alright so you don’t even need it at 380 just cap it to 280

That will help with lows IIRC

[eager elm]

it happened when I had it capped at 250 regardless

i unlocked it BECAUSE of the dips, i thought it might decrease them

[turbid locust]

how much ram ya got

[eager elm]

32gb

[turbid locust]

have we tried giving Minecraft like 10gb lmao

[eager elm]

I have not

[turbid locust]

I think it limits itself to 2gb by default

[fervent chasm]

Wild

[eager elm]

okay ill look into it

[edgy laurel]

vanilla with no tweaks in 2026 is crazy

[fervent chasm]

Oh maybe the dips are during garbage cleanup?

[eager elm]

it's because I speedrun

[fervent chasm]

My server does that

[edgy laurel]

i don't even know what that means

[fervent chasm]

Minecraft speed run

[eager elm]

where you try to beat the game as fast as possible

[fervent chasm]

No modifications to client probably but I feel like that’s not really modifying it

[edgy laurel]

I've owned minecraft since 2010 I still don't know how you actually play it

[turbid locust]

https://www.namehero.com/gaming-blog/how-to-allocate-more-ram-to-minecraft/

[shell void]

yikes ayymd

dlss4.5 1080p can look better than fsr4.0 1440p

[turbid locust]

kek

kinda sad I’ve been spoiled by DLSS now

[topaz veldt]

AMD is trashcan.exe

[turbid locust]

like I can’t justify an AMD gpu anymore now that I’m at 4K

upscaling is just worse

[fervent chasm]

Is the left DLSS 4.5?

[pure garnet]

i haven’t been able to justify an amd card since the 6000 series

every one after they’ve been beyond left in the dust

[fervent chasm]

Oh

It says in the image my bad

[topaz veldt]

I haven't been able to keep an AMD card out of the trashcan for like 2 years

[eager elm]

thanks

[turbid locust]

I only got an XTX because I got a good deal on a used one for $700 and the equivalent nvidia gpu was $1200 at the time

[topaz veldt]

I got an XTX because I lost a bet

[eager elm]

I think this could be what it is, I just looked at one of my clips and at times im at like 70%

[pure garnet]

i got a 6700xt because i didn’t pay for it

wasn’t gonna “wait nvm can i get a 3070”

[topaz veldt]

Is Gabe the monitor light bar guy

[turbid locust]

10GB is completely overkill for vanilla but you’ve got the capacity lol

[frank zealot]

GYAH
I FUCKING HATE CSRs

Why are they always such a fucking headache for no fucking good reason

[wraith steeple]

[turbid locust]

I got a 6700XT because it was just barely passed the height of the gpu-pocalypse and Nvidia cards were still insanely priced. Also 8GB vram yucky.

[topaz veldt]

just like... script it and be done

[frank zealot]

I've generated multipls CSRs and sent them to network solutions.
None have worked.

They generate a CSR "somewhere" and claim it works, and send me the CSR.

I paste that CSR into two different CSR Decoders and it's invalid

[frank zealot]

can't do that for our FTP Server software

[turbid locust]

I did own a 3070 at some point but it was just for fun and I ended up selling it to my brother as a replacement to his 2060S

[topaz veldt]

you know that the CSR doesn't need to originate from the thing that needs a cert right

[turbid locust]

[young void]

[frank zealot]

it does if I can't import a new CSR to it

[turbid locust]

@topaz veldt what would you do if you bought some pricey liquor and then ended up not liking it

[topaz veldt]

happens all the time - that's what parties are for

[topaz veldt]

you don't need a CSR, just the key and cert

[turbid locust]

word lol

[brisk jolt]

Interesting advice

[frank zealot]

when they gift it, you share a shot / drink and you make like it's good

[turbid locust]

For context I bought some Japanese whiskey and do not like it LMAO

[topaz veldt]

Brother

[frank zealot]

after the fact? you let other people drink it

[topaz veldt]

That's like buying Airport Sushi

[frank zealot]

What whiskey

[turbid locust]

Uhhhh hold please

[topaz veldt]

Bro is drinking Sake

[frank zealot]

hell no, Japan makes some amazing whiskey

but like everything else, they also make some crap

[topaz veldt]

Whiskey comes from Tennessee

There is no Tennessee, Japan

[turbid locust]

I knew I should’ve stuck to bourbon lmao

[topaz veldt]

fuckin Temu Whisky bro

Nikka Whisky

wtf you trying to do here Mac

[turbid locust]

THE BOTTLE LOOKED COOL OK

[wraith steeple]

[brisk jolt]

jebaited

[edgy laurel]

nothing wrong with it, thats good stuff to people that like it

[frank zealot]

Whiskey is not a protected name / product. Anyone can make it.

[edgy laurel]

yes, and some of the best is produced all around the world

[topaz veldt]

That's nice to say but we all know the truth

[turbid locust]

as a bourbon elitist…

[edgy laurel]

that isn't bourbon

[frank zealot]

I've got a bottle of japanese whiskey on the shelf that's amazing, and worth hundreds. (But I got it for retail)

[turbid locust]

I’m aware lmao

[frank zealot]

try Garrison Brothers

[topaz veldt]

Garrison Brothers from Japan

[turbid locust]

Isn’t that from Texas

[frank zealot]

yes

[whole talon]

can someone help i tried to update convert my hard drive from mbrtogpt and it was successful but now my network adapter is telling me “this device wont start”

[frank zealot]

it's AWESOME

[turbid locust]

[topaz veldt]

its from Texas, Japan

[edgy laurel]

#1027757333117415424

[whole talon]

thank you sorry

[turbid locust]

I’m out of woodford what the fuck

how the fuck am I out of woodford

I am a disgrace to this state

[topaz veldt]

What you trying to do over there Mac

[frank zealot]

be as sus as you want.

Also: Malt anything is going to be very different than most other bottles.

[topaz veldt]

That's the difference between whiskey and you

[low sorrel]

this shield is perfectly fine

[topaz veldt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZTvfdGMQfI

[wraith steeple]

Hmmmm

[topaz veldt]

its weird he didn't sing about Japanese Whiskey

[edgy laurel]

why would he.. look at him

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/racist-thats-racist-dats-racist-gif-5036293

lol crashin out

[frank zealot]

GET DOUBLE WARSHIPPED.....

Sucks to be you lol

[topaz veldt]

I'd rather be TRIPLE warshipped than forced to drink bad whiskey

[turbid locust]

I found like a minuscule amount of crown who the fuck is buying crown in this house

[frank zealot]

Tellin ya Mac. Get a bottle of Garrison Brothers and you will not be sad.

(Start with a small bottle if you're worried)

[wraith steeple]

I could get some good ol' Arak sometime. Shit is strong as a motherfucker with at least 60% ABV

[topaz veldt]

IRAQ?

[wraith steeple]

[turbid locust]

I will try it but I will be suspicious of anything not produced in Kentucky from this point on

[wraith steeple]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arak_(drink)

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/puke-vomit-nausea-nauseous-jim-carrey-gif-6414990571697035561

I know horse fluid when I see it

[frank zealot]

buddy, I have some bad news for you lol

[turbid locust]

Don’t call me buddy, pal.

[topaz veldt]

Don't take whiskey advice from a guy defeated by CSRs

[frank zealot]

I'm not your pal, friend

[frank zealot]

distilled from anise?

ooph.....

[topaz veldt]

When I have my colleagues over from Ireland I make sure to take them to very "we're trying to be Irish" bars just to make it extra cringe

[turbid locust]

I ended up watching last years derby from an Irish pub in NYC and they were confused on why I was there and not home lmao

[wraith steeple]

This is what we usually get for Arak

[topaz veldt]

but imagine taking coworkers from Italy to Olive Garden when they visit

That's my goal

[turbid locust]

LOL

[frank zealot]

do you order them car bombs?

[topaz veldt]

Corned beef and cabbage, the whole thing

[wraith steeple]

Yeah it's strong as fuck but good damnit I love it whenever I want something that takes the edge off

[frank zealot]

I just looked, and the taketsuru is only a 3yr bottle.

I wouldn't spend that pricetag on a 3yr old whiskey

[frank zealot]

take the edge off?
That shit's gonna be nothing BUT edges

[turbid locust]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-idk-iono-hands-up-gif-7122581203490458147

[frank zealot]

that's like drinking a bottle of glass shards

101 proof isn't always that bad, but combined with anise as a prominent flavor?

paaaaaaaaaasssssss

[topaz veldt]

anise sounds like anus

[frank zealot]

if I had to pick a better flavor profile....

Hard call

[hoary hatch]

💀
I have 2.1

I mean my sound bar will fake Atmos or whatever

But the firmware sucks and the satellites don't work for surround/atmos

[wraith steeple]

I guess we're just built different

[frank zealot]

no you're apparently a weirdo who likes the flavor of anise

(it's also a regional flavor that I never really enjoyed)

[wraith steeple]

I was born in that region after all of where Arak was made

So that's worth keeping in mind

[frank zealot]

you probably also consumed other anise based stuff regularly or semi-regularly

[jaunty horizon]

what games should i try on a crt

im getting one today (and the av to hdmi converter box at a later date)

[arctic bronze]

oh no....

[steel stream]

stereo still baller it's ok

[devout ridge]

highest quality LLM i could get to work semi-well

[shell void]

fritz photographed an Unc processor recently

it do be pretty

[wraith steeple]

K5s are something I would love to tinker around with someday

the PR200 is a unicorn

[novel flax]

Anyone know a good headset for like $50-100?

[uncut venture]

I have a K6 in a closet somewhere

whole attached PC\

no idea if it works. it did when it went in

[wraith steeple]

my first pc was a K6-2 based system

[uncut venture]

tbh i never used the system. my first PC was a pentium 1-133 mhz laptop.

2nd pc was a p4-2.66 ghz desktop.

[fervent elm]

#audio-tech is probably a better place to ask

[novel flax]

Okay. Thank you.

[wraith steeple]

I remember playing on the family computer that had a 486DX2-66 that was VLB based. That was the rig that made me fall in love with the hobby

was from circa 1994

[fervent elm]

My first pc was a p3 gateway, xp
Used it until like 2011

[wraith steeple]

It got upgraded a fair bit over the years and it got upgraded to Windows 95 as that was what it had when I was playing around on it

[wraith steeple]

https://youtu.be/KYDCN9R0IfY?si=-Ogd0ZUFUMaq4RSW

Also K5s have been fetching for a premium lately

premium by retro pc tech standards that is

[merry stirrup]

k5's are cool cause you can mod them into k6's and stuff iirc

maybe its k5 into k5+

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkiyddCU-BY
ah i got close its k6 2+ into a 3+

[turbid locust]

I need some DDR3 to test if my 1090T and AM3+ board work

[merry stirrup]

fun cpus

1090t is cool i think i had one too

[turbid locust]

sleepy before midnight this is an absolute rarity

[devout ridge]

i have a 2x16 kit i’m not using

[turbid locust]

teleport it to me

[devout ridge]

you don’t want me to ship it in proper pipe bomb fashion?

[merry stirrup]

2x16 is the opposite of compeititve for benching

find some cheap bfr or something and that will do ok

[turbid locust]

I just wanna know if it works

[merry stirrup]

i can send you some cheapo dimms if you want

[turbid locust]

idk if I have a cooler that mounts to AM3+

[merry stirrup]

approved by hwbot idiots

bro please think hard about what you just said

by extension you dont know if you have a cooler that works on am5

[turbid locust]

does it use the same mounting holes

[merry stirrup]

yes

[turbid locust]

ok cool nvm

[merry stirrup]

i use an FM2+ stock cooler on my am4 oc rig

[turbid locust]

flops I did not get into this hobby till like 2017

[devout ridge]

amd loves retaining cooler compatibility

intel on the other hand…

[merry stirrup]

damn maybe its older hold on

no i think thats right

[merry stirrup]

time travel

you cant let a 19 year old out unc you

[turbid locust]

[merry stirrup]

(i just like older hardware)

a good quarter of the content i watch on youtube is retro computing

although id never be a boring enough character to get into it myself

[turbid locust]

This might sound dumb but like

I like fast stuff

I like being on the new

[merry stirrup]

i get it

i generally buy based off memory clock or core clocks

rpl is one of my favorite platforms just because you can hit 6.3ghz on ambient with no sweat on a decent chip

[devout ridge]

i buy hardware based on vibe

“how much ram do i need” idk, 512gb feels okay
“how much storage” 3x4tb should be fine

[merry stirrup]

buy whatever you want as long as your daily is suitable to be buying stupid hw

[devout ridge]

sometimes i’m right, sometimes i’m wrong, always an excuse to tinker with hardware

[merry stirrup]

i have a stupid daily with the 4th fastest gpu im allowed to spend 50$ on ddr3 hardware

[devout ridge]

my desktop is plenty powerful, so my server rack is filled with “projects”

i have a 4080S, i’m allowed to spend 300usd on ddr3

funniest part is i do actually use all of that ddr3

ZFS ftw

[merry stirrup]

we have the same storage config

[devout ridge]

we probably have the same cpu too

[merry stirrup]

no

[devout ridge]

wait no, i only use 2690v4’s in my intel servers

[merry stirrup]

i have a considerably more modern setup although less workstation

[devout ridge]

cringe

[merry stirrup]

i also have a W480 workstation

[devout ridge]

i honestly forget what cpus are in my nas

[merry stirrup]

same platform as z590, so lga 1200

[devout ridge]

they’re some 8 core xeons on LGA2011

[merry stirrup]

but i dont have a compatible cpu for it cause hp cannot document properly

[devout ridge]

poor documentation is the bane of my existence

can manufacturers please just make decent documentation

[merry stirrup]

i bought a 1250P for it and despite it being compatible on their site for my individual model its actually not

[devout ridge]

it doesn’t even have to be made well, just info dump into a pdf and post it

[merry stirrup]

you need a specific motherboard with 2 4 pins which i do not have

why must you troll me

now i need someone with a W1250 to just trade me because im lazy

[devout ridge]

it’s almost like manufacturers don’t want you to buy their hardware second hand

[merry stirrup]

i got it free from work

so only -50$ for the cpu or something

[devout ridge]

still secondhand, just unpaid secondhand

[merry stirrup]

the og cpu from it (a 10700) is in the z590 board

and yes its ram overclocked

[mild sentinel]

new battery icon 🤔

[eager elm]

Oled has gotten to the point where burn in is no longer a concern correct? I shouldn’t be scared to play hours of a certain game just because of it

Or a very very minimal concern

[edgy laurel]

been doing that for 3 years

[eager elm]

Cool I’ll take that as a yes

[mild sentinel]

i think they kinda need to change for charging, without hovering around the battery it feels like its full already 🤔

[zealous orchid]

Already showed the people in chat 1 but I figured I show George here, he has been resurrected 3 times, I’m like Dr Frankenstein

[brisk jolt]

stop the crossposting

this isnt a airport

[zealous orchid]

Yo I never been to an airport

And I’m proud of my George 🥺

[snow holly]

Homies from a different tax bracket

https://tenor.com/view/smol-smolcat-smolcatcoin-smol-cat-coin-roswell-gif-5972314891354809109

[zealous orchid]

He didn’t seem to enjoy the vengeance ddr4 I gave him

[fervent elm]

because vengeance, especially lpx, is suck

[proven cairn]

Untrue

[lone scarab]

groot

[spiral quarry]

Fun part is finding a use for it. That I am still trying to find for two mini elitedesks

and a 1U hp server

[solemn scroll]

I don't have installation media for now

[green marsh]

poor sata power cables

[wise bear]

eeeeee

[signal timber]

https://tenor.com/view/marikiplier-e-meme-lord-farquaad-gif-22138504

[livid flame]

You on the scalping grind?

[livid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/internet-explorer-gif-24879124

[devout ridge]

there's a 2u that's been powered on for like 5 months now, never worked

IPMI doesn't work, no video out, keyboard responds though so it's posted

[livid flame]

You on the keyboard warrior grind?

[oak vector]

Had a very fun crashing issue with gta v enhanced
I believe it was fixed after I verified game files or turned steam overlay off 😛

My steam would crash, my rockstar would crash, my task manager would crash, and then my game would freeze then my whole computer would
Was quite dramatic

[livid flame]

I still haven’t played that game properly. Like I’ve taken control for my father in law for like 5 minutes.

Watched it be played. I don’t get why people like GTA so much

It’s OG but it just seems so generic to me now. I dunno. Maybe 6 could be worth me trying again

[edgy laurel]

i was real excited since I hadn't really touched GTA5 since I played it at launch

then I realized its mechanics and feel are REALLY dated

got bored very quickly

the enhanced version did look pretty though

[edgy laurel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/1qbmuew/so_i_compiled_all_the_glossy_miniled_monitors/

[burnt socket]

it still functions

although some websites dont like it

[merry stirrup]

wowza that msi looks good

[burnt socket]

i just typed wikipedia and this 😭

[livid flame]

Microsoft Bleeding Edge browser is where it’s at

On the Edge of the Window sill

[burnt socket]

i will miss the arrow keys

[oak vector]

Nvm haven’t fixed it

[slate trail]

Hello chat is this laptop are good for gaming n work

[topaz veldt]

depends on what gaming you are looking to do

[burnt socket]

omg malaysian detected

the 4050 not looking good tho

[topaz veldt]

blech

[slate trail]

I mostl likely only play those old games like tf2, roblox n Minecraft and some of open world games like gta 5, wuthering waves n gachas games

While for work I do editing in adobes eco system

Overall just need a laptop to pair with my gaming pc cuz most of heavy work goes to my pc

[topaz veldt]

then it'd be fine

[slate trail]

Why so

[devout ridge]

the fact it's just them asking you really nicely to please abide by their ToS is really funny

[slate trail]

I know laptop gpu arent powerful compared to it original gpu

[devout ridge]

4050 is also only a mobile gpu, there is no desktop version

[edgy laurel]

plenty of 4050 laptop gaming test roundups on youtube

[burnt socket]

nvm

i got brainwashed by the 5050

[topaz veldt]

Well - I own the product, but I am running it on a computer with a Xeon so it thinks its enterprise

And the inverse is true - I run a domain in my house, it barks at me and makes me wait (ignoring the license benefits) because my Ryzen 9 is on a domain

[livid flame]

What if you’re an enterprise enthusiast?

[topaz veldt]

well its a homelab, but its not enterprise, meaning it doesn't support a business, etc.

[devout ridge]

enterprise means it supports a company in this context

[topaz veldt]

Yeah its just irritating because OCCT won't sell me an "enterprise license" of 1 seat perpetual/etc., so they said "just email us and we'll send you a like 30 - 60 day enterprise key as needed" but its like bro I test my shit constantly

[livid flame]

For free?

I think you need to get multiple keys at a time

[topaz veldt]

No, not for a personal use

It just makes no sense for me to pay for OCCT Personal if they're going to make me wait 10 - 20 secs or whatever it is to run a test because my machines are on a domain

Might as well just use the free

[oak vector]

sigh
We love company tomfoolery
Especially when they block us from using their products

[hoary hatch]

Rahhhh

HUB just released another 5800x3d glazing video

[oak vector]

Good cpu… crap price now ngl

but like…
5800x3d ain’t ancient, but it’s like two generations and a refresh old

Also aren’t amd doing another am4 refresh of cpus too

[topaz veldt]

Is the 5800X3D even available

[edgy laurel]

5800x3D hasn't been produced or sold at retail as active stock in years so any pricing you see should be ignored

new old stock stuff

[livid flame]

Second hand market

[topaz veldt]

seems like a really niche video to make

[oak vector]

Ah yeah
“Look what we found in this warehouse” type stuff lmao

[topaz veldt]

I browse the 2nd market a lot and I don't think I have seen a 5800X3D for sale in some time

[livid flame]

HUB are way off base sometimes I really don’t understand them. Interesting but sometimes completely pointless

And more adverts than a 6 hour twitch stream for a 20min video

[oak vector]

and my silly ass thought HUB was their name…
Only just realised it meant hardware unboxed? Lmao. (At least that’s what I think it means :p)

[livid flame]

Yeah billy*

[oak vector]

I don’t watch a lot of their content ngl

[oak vector]

bully 😔

[livid flame]

A lot of it is rehashed

[edgy laurel]

man i'm realizing i haven't seen HUB stuff or really any tech youtuber that i'm subbed to even showing up on my homepage

[livid flame]

Apologies for my stupid iPhone

[edgy laurel]

I just don't really care to watch that same thing over and over again

so youtube has stopped serving them to me

[oak vector]

I get a lot of cooking videos that make me hungry all the damn time
It’s pissing me off

[wise bear]

aeiou

[livid flame]

The solution is to be in McDonald’s when you watch them

[livid flame]

Y? Because I said so.

[topaz veldt]

it has been a slow/dull season

[oak vector]

Mine does the same
I’ll deliberately type out what’s or whatever and it’ll correct to “I hate”. Like, I can’t even type a single damn letter without it changing it LOL

If communism was an autocorrect, it would be iPhone autocorrect.

The other day I just typed out the letter x and it corrected it to c
Like???

[stark sphinx]

My yt Homepage is kinda f-ed up these days i am getting alot of K-pop fancams , warhammer 40k Lore vids and Pc Experiment stuff

[livid flame]

I remember when like used to go to liek and it would auto correct a made up word

[oak vector]

iPhone autocorrect has a long way to go

[topaz veldt]

finally!

[oak vector]

Like with android (and a bit apple) it adapts over time to your spelling mannerisms
I’ve had this phone for months now it shouldn’t be correcting me on the same things smh

[topaz veldt]

no more farmer grade cable for me

[oak vector]

[edgy laurel]

but for how much

[topaz veldt]

Any amount is worth it!

So here's the sales pitch

[edgy laurel]

i looked but wasn't about to pay $75+ for a headphone cable lmao

[topaz veldt]

A) 10' long
B) its 4-pin mini-XLR which means my modular cable set will let me plug it in to anything
C) the cable matches that of my Aryas

That mini XLR means I can use any of these

[devout ridge]

always weird seeing 4pin mini xlr outside of theatrical spaces

[edgy laurel]

I just care about the length and only needs to be 1/4"

can you get it without that XLR section entirely?

[topaz veldt]

Sure

[devout ridge]

those are some pretty cables

[topaz veldt]

But then its not adjustable to anything

Like I'd need some funky ass adapters to listen on my phone or something in the office

[edgy laurel]

sure but in nearly a decade my headphones have been plugged into the same amp and never unplugged

[devout ridge]

i only unplug my desktop headphones when i want to use my IEMs

[topaz veldt]

The prebuilt Senn cables are like $58

Sorry, $35

ah once you add a termination its $58

[edgy laurel]

lol

[topaz veldt]

Its the labor

They're all hand made and super nice

[devout ridge]

that costs more than my headphones

[topaz veldt]

The stock Senn cable feels like it should come with a set of FOSS headphones from Bradleys 30 years ago

[devout ridge]

those cables do look genuinely beautiful

4pin mini xlr in general is rather expensive

it’s a rather annoying connector to wire

[topaz veldt]

I have my Rebel Amp w/ 1/4" TRS

But with the modular kit I can literally go plug my headphones into my Mackie mixer if I wanted

[devout ridge]

all of the mic packs and consequently mics we use are 4pin mini xlr, it’s just a connector that works

[topaz veldt]

this is the full kit (mine are in custom fabric)

[devout ridge]

you don’t have to think about it, or worry about it, it just works

it’s also one of a few not proprietary stage mic connectors

[topaz veldt]

I didn't notice because the arya stock cable is decent, but short. But I forgot how bad quality the senn cables are

even the stock HD 800s cable was lol wtf

[devout ridge]

never understood high end audio companies shipping shitty cables

[topaz veldt]

I had these for a bit - wtaf were they thinking

[devout ridge]

those look disgusting

[topaz veldt]

its like a vacuum cleaner cord for headphone wire

but the HD600 and alike are maybe 22 gauge flimsy stuffs

[devout ridge]

i’ve seen better vacuum cleaner cords

[edgy laurel]

well, its not. the same cable I used without issue for like 9 years

proven to work just fine

[topaz veldt]

Its just disappointing $400-600 headphones come with that cable

[edgy laurel]

so some may find it unattractive (as unattractive as any black cable is) but its not shitty in functionality

[topaz veldt]

Functionally its not very good though

I hear it through the headphone when it bumps my shoulder

because its silicone and thumps and bumps

If you tap on it like 18" away you hear it in the headphones

Silicone and rubber have that stethoscope effect

[edgy laurel]

the sun this time of year for like 30 minutes comes through these windows at the top of my office directly on my matte monitors and I can't see shit

[topaz veldt]

Yeah I have that in the fall

[edgy laurel]

i can't see what is in this chat right now if there are typos i didnt notice

i'm typing blindly

[topaz veldt]

You gotta get that perforated window tint

[edgy laurel]

matte or glossy isn't making a difference here when its this direct lol

[topaz veldt]

makes a huge difference if its in a spot you can't put shades/curtains

[edgy laurel]

holding my hand up to see

yeah that would probably work lol

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/bright-brad-pitt-roy-mcbride-ad-astra-blinded-by-light-gif-16122039

quick guys shit talk guilty he can't see

[edgy laurel]

in like 20 minutes or so it'll be fine

[topaz veldt]

When we setup this house my wife wanted the office that has literally 3 sides of windows

Its I want to say like floor to ceiling (like 12-18" off the floor), each window prob 30" wide, there are 3 on each wall

[merry stirrup]

i’m not very tired so i’m making wontons

[topaz veldt]

She has white furniture, recessed and a chandelier

her office gives me a headache instantly

[oak vector]

lmfao

[oak vector]

Amazing

[oak vector]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-silly-silly-cat-stare-gif-17130425485948020000

[edgy laurel]

half of my screen is back

[oak vector]

yay

[stark sphinx]

The other comes by train soon

[merry stirrup]

your mom

[stark sphinx]

Is a pretty lady

[oak vector]

[edgy laurel]

i don't understand

[stark sphinx]

You will when you are older

[hoary hatch]

Ooo

Other Steve did a sparkle arc GPU factory tour

[edgy laurel]

i'll be looking at retirement in less years than a lot of people here have been alive

which is terrifying

[stark sphinx]

So less then 500 years

[hoary hatch]

He's a millennial

[stark sphinx]

So 600?

[edgy laurel]

is that all they're making these days?

[hoary hatch]

Sparkle does a few other things

They're a sub brand of a larger company/conglomerate

[edgy laurel]

Yeah I recall them doing Radeon stuff but haven't paid much attention in a while

[hoary hatch]

Sparkle only does arc these days

But I'm not too sure what other company they're related to

Power color or zotac maybe?

I think ONIX is sapphire

[edgy laurel]

Independent? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparkle_Computer

[merry stirrup]

theyre allegedl a private company idk

[hoary hatch]

Hmmm

Maybe sparkle is independent?

[merry stirrup]

iirc msi makes all of acers ark gpus? idk if thats what youre thinking

[shell void]

sparkle seems based

[hoary hatch]

I know a lot of the other arc AIBs have relations to Nvidia/AMD AIBs

[edgy laurel]

Oh they did Nvidia a long time ago. Only resurfaced recently for all Arc

[hoary hatch]

Sparkle also sells like, thunderbolt docks or something

But I think they're majority arc products now

And some very limited motherboard endeavors

[edgy laurel]

prior to that was GeForce 9 series (like 9800GT era)

[hoary hatch]

That was way before my time

[shell void]

back in the dark ages

[hoary hatch]

Unrelated

[edgy laurel]

8800GT was the first card I bought myself

[hoary hatch]

I was at best buy yesterday

They're cleared out of GPUs

I've been tangentially thinking of upgrading to 5080 but I've missed the boat

[edgy laurel]

dark times ahead

[hoary hatch]

Was 3gb G7 available at launch

Cause 5080 should have been 24gb

[shell void]

ya they use it for the quadro pro cards

[hoary hatch]

Those released a bit later, no?

Also mobile 5090

[shell void]

3GB G7 chips were available at the launch of 50 series

[pure garnet]

the 5080 is a lame model

[hoary hatch]

24gb 5080 would have solved the 5080 no man's land problem

[shell void]

28Gbps 2GB is basically the absolute bottom bin poverty spec of G7

we get the undesirable cuts of meat

[pure garnet]

not really

5070ti is still cheaper and 90% of the cars for most people

[hoary hatch]

Well pricing probably would have been higher

[shell void]

if 5080 had 24GB then it probably would’ve never been available for $999

it was available for $999 for a couple of months

[hoary hatch]

That's true

If it was hypothetically 24gb and $999, I think it would have made up for the lackluster value compared to 5070ti

Also it was briefly $950

20gb no

Not with GB203

160bit cut down interface, clamshell vram
Shudders

Yeah a 24gb 5080 probably would have been $1199 to match launch 4080 pricing

It was/is

[shell void]

it’s less value but i don’t think it’s outright bad

[hoary hatch]

If it had more vram at the same MSRP it would have made up for the worse price/performance value

What upsets me is people buying $1800 astral 5080

[shell void]

the only genuinely bad value card in my view is the 5050

[hoary hatch]

Idk man, if you can afford that, surely you can find a way to afford a 5090 budget cooler

[shell void]

it is pretty close

4090 is 15% more powerful while using 25% more power

[hoary hatch]

It depends on the benchmarks

But tpu relative performance is a good generalization

[shell void]

5080 and even 5070Ti are better gaming GPUs than the 4090 to me personally

[hoary hatch]

Although if you got a 4090 near launch for near $1600, one of the best investments you could have made

[shell void]

“not even close” XD

[shell void]

no doubt

but i think people have rose tinted glasses for the 4090 and imagine it as spanking the 5080 which isn’t true at all

[hoary hatch]

The FE and Astral delta is wild

[shell void]

yeah the FE boost clocks are pretty low

i suspect they were leaving room for the super refresh

the 5090 matrix vbios has a +13.5% overclock over the FE

2407 -> 2730

i wonder if the MSI Lightning Z vbios will be better than the Matrix

it has a 1000W limit but idk if it’ll let the card use any more voltage than the Matrix vbios does

i usually get voltage capped at around 650-720W anyway

[hoary hatch]

Lightning is dual power connectors right?

[shell void]

Galax HOF OC Lab too but that’s basically vaporware

Matrix can be counted as dual power input but again vaporware

[livid flame]

It’s planned. New tiering goes by core count not by performance from Nvidia.

[shell void]

the easiest way to get dual input before the Lightning was to solder a second connector on a Gigabyte card because they prewired the second spot so that they can reuse the PCB for stealth connector models

[livid flame]

50% of the 5090 cores is a massive downgrade for the 5080. Previous gens it would be higher

Still the 5080 performs very well considering it has half the core

[shell void]

yeah i think GB203 is impressive

it’s almost as powerful as the 4090 despite having far fewer SMs

and running with less power

[livid flame]

Like if they gave it 75% of the cores you wouldn’t buy the 5090. The cost benefit would end up being too pricey for the performance

On the outside yes, it’s shit to have half the cores. Commercially and tiering wise, the performance stacks up.

Nvidia probably see the 4090 being a 1080ti all over again and now they’ve gone with a new placement strategy that makes sense - even if it’s a bit crappy numbers wise

[shell void]

i think people are going to not want the top card going into the future anyway due to power density

5090 is at its 600W TGP limit at only like 1.03vcore despite having a significant portion of its hardware disabled

i’ve heard that pro 6000 is often <1.0v at 600W

it won’t be much longer until the top GPU creeps into the 1KW range

[topaz veldt]

Gigabyte actually does, indirectly, have dual power connectors on their Master and Windforce or whatever

[turbid locust]

Maybe they’re just not big gpu guys

[shell void]

they’re definitely not 🗣️

[turbid locust]

Mike i genuinely want you to know that was like 60% of the reason i got a 5090

[shell void]

XD

i was completely content with my 5070Ti until i tried to run pathtracing

idk i got a 5090

[topaz veldt]

unpopular take: there are too many models of GPU

[shell void]

fully agree

[turbid locust]

rebuttal: more options for consumers at different price brackets is never bad

[topaz veldt]

If there were 3 flavors, the biggest, the middlest, and the smollest, it'd be fine

[topaz veldt]

By that, why not 80 models?

[turbid locust]

you’re being facetious

[topaz veldt]

We should have a model of each 5070/5070 Ti/5080/5090 with single, dual, or triple monitor outs so we can save $30

[turbid locust]

5050, 5070, 5090 👍

[topaz veldt]

but no, there should be like a entry CUDA core w/ 8-12GB, a middle guy with decent CUDA and 16-20GB, and then a big hoss with 24-32GB

if you simplify the products prices can go down because y ou're not focusing on making so many iterations

[pure garnet]

wouldn’t having less models per die just make yields worse

the 5070ti exists from “failed” 5080s

[topaz veldt]

It'd be no different

Imagine you only make 5090s and 5070s

failed 5090s are 5080s and failed 5070s are 5050s, etc.

but like 5060 Ti

5070 vs 5070 Ti

5080 isn't even a 4090

its all dumb

[shell void]

you could just make every sku have defect tolerance

plus remember there are numerous pro cards with weird cutdown configs

[odd sable]

Could also have the mobile variant be a bit more cut down die too

[shell void]

my main complaints are that 5050 shouldn’t be a desktop card, and there could be one 5060 12GB instead of 5060 8GB, 5060Ti 8GB, and 5060Ti 16GB

[topaz veldt]

My issue is that everyone should have a 5090

[odd sable]

Part of the problem is that there's a ti and maybe ti super of basically everything

At launch, there was the 1060, 1070, 1080, and 1080ti
Why the fuck is there a 5050, 5060, 5060ti, 5060ti 16gb, 5070, 5070ti, 5080, and 5090?

Then then the super refresh expected at some point

[topaz veldt]

Sounds like they may skip Supers

[odd sable]

Add 1050 and 1050ti, and well later the 1070ti, and I guess also 1060 3gb

[odd sable]

Yes, but that's not because they don't want more skus

Honestly the way they did it for 400/500 and 600/700 makes more sense IMO

[shell void]

the super refresh is that we can now use dlss performance instead of quality due to the improvements in dlss 4.5

[odd sable]

680 -> 770, and then bigger die for 780 and 780ti

480 and 580 are basically GTX 480 and GTX 480 Super, so they did that at least once

[edgy laurel]

Supers were always meant as a replacement. If retailers still keep selling old non-Supers thats on them.

Ti's are additions, not replacements.

[pure garnet]

all these inbetween models exist because the world is convinced a card is bad if it’s $50 over what they want it to be

[odd sable]

i still think a 400 -> 500 move would be better than "super"

[fringe vigil]

[odd sable]

particularly if they kept a regular pattern with it, ie: evens are new uarch, odds are refresh

though, iirc nvidia wants to move to a yearly cadence now, we'll see how that goes

[shell void]

kopite said we’re not getting rubin consumer until computex 2027 so we’ll have to wait and see what happens

nvidia could still put out the super series later this year if they want to

[odd sable]

i doubt they will, because vram

[edgy laurel]

assuming the product/marketing people can sign off on what it would have to cost

[shell void]

life when you just buy a 90 class card and can chill knowing it won’t be replaced for two years, at which point you can resell it to nearly fully reimburse yourself

https://tenor.com/view/chud-buddha-chuddha-chud-nothing-ever-happens-gif-5905117637949226818

[merry stirrup]

you cant apply that to a lower end variant of the same gen? 😭

[shell void]

nop

[merry stirrup]

news to me

[shell void]

it’s not news to you

3080 10GBs were half the price of 3090s or less despite sharing the same GPU and performing similarly

[merry stirrup]

yet i bought a 3080 10gb for 400$ and resold it for... 350$...

just because x card is half the price of another does not mean the cheaper card cant keep resale value

[shell void]

the adults are discussing purchasing current gen GPUs new at retail pricing

not being a FBM warrior

[merry stirrup]

code for i have no argument

hurrrr

[shell void]

you didn’t buy the 3080 new at launch for $400 and then use it for 2 years so your argument is not applicable

[merry stirrup]

what about my 7800xt

[steel stream]

floppa stop being rude and disproving michaels argument

not very nice of you

[merry stirrup]

no it just didnt make any sense

[steel stream]

i just got here so I am trolling

[merry stirrup]

fair enough

[pure garnet]

yeah well i got my 1080ti new for $800 and kept it for a decade coping it was still relevant

[shell void]

i wonder how many people actually did that

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/bee-movie-lawyer-tantrum-gif-20018965

[shell void]

from what i’ve seen most of the the people who bought a 1080Ti moved on to the 2080Ti or 30 series

[pure garnet]

the biggest 1080ti shill is a 6th owner ebay warrior

[shell void]

fr

[odd sable]

i mean, the 1080Ti was a hell of a card, a decade ago

[merry stirrup]

flagship cards keep slightly better resale value sure, but you also end up paying significantly more for a flagship (at least of a gpu) compared to the mid end stack, you still lose more money lol

[odd sable]

"mid end"

think about that for a sec plz, thx

[merry stirrup]

5070ti is in fact the mid end

[odd sable]

mid range

[shell void]

the midrange is the end for flopper

[odd sable]

low end, high end, mid range

[shell void]

he’ll never own a current gen flagship card XD

[merry stirrup]

end of the mid range entereing high range

michael is mad because i make reasonable purchasing decisions along with somewhat sound logic

[turbid locust]

Definitely 30 series. I remember the 20 series launch being viewed negatively as it wasn’t much of an uplift.

[merry stirrup]

yeah

[odd sable]

you should stop that

[merry stirrup]

30 seires was quite big

[turbid locust]

1080Ti owners DEFINITELY didn’t fw 20 series

[shell void]

i’m sitting here positively stewing in anger (chuckling in my chair at work)

[merry stirrup]

no esp since the 2080ti was like 1200$

[pure garnet]

my friend went 980ti -> 2080ti

[odd sable]

my brother (a 1080Ti owner at the time) did in fact buy a 2080Ti

[pure garnet]

idk what he’s on now he moved away

[turbid locust]

I mean

[odd sable]

and then a 3090

and then a 4090

and now a 5090

[shell void]

2080Ti was a significant upgrade from 1080Ti, people were just butthurt about DLSS sucking when it was new, and the price increase

[pure garnet]

2080ti owners won in the long run

dlss 4 and (somewhat) useable rt

[merry stirrup]

probably not the ones who paid 1200$ for it when it was actually new

it was not a cheap video card for the first little bit on release

[shell void]

40% more powerful at the same TGP and a feature set that aged gracefully

[odd sable]

970 -> 980ti -> 980ti SLI -> 1080ti -> 2080ti -> 3090 -> 4090 -> 3090 (same one) -> 5090

[topaz veldt]

@low sorrel

[merry stirrup]

why back

didnt like drivers or something?

[odd sable]

sold the 4090 for more than was paid for it, and i still had the 3090

[merry stirrup]

ah okay makes sense

[odd sable]

wanting to get a 5090, but ofc market for those sucks

so, hes just used now my 3090 for a while

[merry stirrup]

fair enough

[steel stream]

goated YT rec

[steel stream]

@turbid locust you might like this one

[shell void]

zeritt is cool beans, he started as a wizard101 youtuber

[turbid locust]

Banger

[odd sable]

then theres my computer, which is even more wild

970 -> 970 sli -> 970 sli (one card replaced) -> 980ti -> 970 (4th one) -\
-> vega 64 -> 64 + rx 480 -> 64 + vii -> vii + 64 (switched primary) -\
------> 6800xt -> 3090 -> 7900xtx
(2nd computer) -> 7900xtx (x2) -> W5700 (x2) -> 9070xt

[hoary hatch]

Or they were like me and bought 1080ti for less money than a 2080 the day 2080 reviews dropped and were super lackluster

[odd sable]

1080ti prices bottomed in the lead up to the 20-series announcement iirc

and then 2080ti prices cratered between 3090 announce and launch, then shot back up a good bit because availability

[green marsh]

3080 actually

"3080 is going to have 2080 Ti performance at $800". What a joke statement that was

[odd sable]

3070/3080/3090 announce and launch of them all

[odd sable]

3070*

[green marsh]

people panic selling 2080 Ti just to hit the "mining bought up all the GPUs" 😄

[hoary hatch]

Crazy statement considering 3080 was $700, not $800

[green marsh]

(i might remember exact numbers incorrectly, but the panic selling was real)

i seen people panic selling their 2080 Tis for 450-500 euros

[odd sable]

https://youtu.be/QKx-eMAVK70?t=1841

[ember island]

do you guys actually see the performance improvement upgrading every few years? i went 970 - 3060 - 4060ti and I think my next upgrade would be in 2030 or later

[hoary hatch]

People selling their 2080ti for $500 was hilarious

[odd sable]

$500 for 2080ti cratered the prices of 2080tis

[pure garnet]

yeah

i went 2060 -> 6700 xt -> 3080 (died)/4070 -> 5070ti

[odd sable]

no, but thats mostly because i dont actually play that demanding of games

i dont buy the cards for graphics perf though

[dry tide]

Just something to look at are they? 🤣

[odd sable]

no, testing

when theres a bug and its on a specific uarch, i need that uarch to fix it

so, i have a lot of GPUs because of that

[livid flame]

Same with CPUs

[odd sable]

i have all AMD uarches between Terrascale 1 and RDNA4, all Nvidia uarches between Tesla and Ampere, and from intel Sandybridge through Battlemage

[shell void]

one taste of radeon was enough XD

[odd sable]

and even some weird things like a Snapdragon X Elite minipc, and multiple macs too

[pure garnet]

my mommy bought me that card so i wasn't gonna be like nvm can i have a 3070 instead

[topaz veldt]

yes but CPUs are just CPUs, there's no RAM/VRAM associated, the bracketing is a little more sensible at least from a marketing stand point

[odd sable]

i have over 50 GPUs

[turbid locust]

no, the architectural improvement and benchmarking is all in our heads.

(My 5070Ti > 5090 adventure was a massive noticeable improvement)

[pure garnet]

5090 would be sick for 4k but my 5070ti can do it

the only game that runs kinda poorly is destiny 2

[turbid locust]

if it makes you feel better there’s still games that run poorly on a 5090

[merry stirrup]

real

[pure garnet]

me not having a 600w gpu maks me feel good enough

[merry stirrup]

my sisters computer likes to freeze under combined load

[pure garnet]

my 10x10 bedroom is not coping with the 5090

[topaz veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/idk-mhmm-not-sure-about-that-gif-14793379

[turbid locust]

mine never actually hits 600W in the real world due to my fps cap lol

[shell void]

NEED MO POWA

[merry stirrup]

translation:i paid for the whole speedometer but im not using the whole speedometer

[topaz veldt]

man what a badass

oh shit keep the hood on

[merry stirrup]

damn bro ugly as shit

[topaz veldt]

ROFL

[pure garnet]

like yeah a 5090 would be cool to run 4k120 in ffxiv with no dlss but

it's not $2000 of value

[topaz veldt]

$4000 n ow

[merry stirrup]

lmao

[pure garnet]

yeah i'll keep my entry model

[merry stirrup]

yeha the people paying 4k can resell them in a year or two years for 1800$ and get mostly reimbursed

[shell void]

Mac might even profit because he stole his 5090

[edgy laurel]

@shell void ran that 5% gray test last night

ohhh baby, the camera is NOT kinda 😆

[shell void]

you got some bars and splotches goin on?

[topaz veldt]

Ehhh

[topaz veldt]

This dude is losing $0

[edgy laurel]

oh yeah

of course in person it looks nothing like that

the exposure goes wild

[merry stirrup]

weird text behavior with your camera lol

[edgy laurel]

the nvidia hdr/vsr icons aren't helping

[edgy laurel]

i saw that weirdness in other people's pictures from the original post yesterday, didn't think much of it

[shell void]

that’s not too bad to be honest, i would assume that you don’t see it in real content

[edgy laurel]

oh lord no, i don't see any of that

[shell void]

pretty clean for an old woled

[edgy laurel]

this pic shows some weirdness in the bottom left quadrant but i stil can't tell in normal content

[shell void]

3 years of using it as a hdr monitor with no sign of burn in 🔥

[edgy laurel]

pro tip everyone, take a picture of a 5% gray image. looks scary

[shell void]

i think yours looks better than mine actually xd

i abuse mine to be fair

[edgy laurel]

i couldn't figure out what was going on there. its like there is a white light ring around the edges

[shell void]

0 protections and i decline pixel clean cycles

i think i’ve only run two cycles in 3500 hours

[edgy laurel]

and are those reflections?

[shell void]

in the bottom left and top right yeah

[edgy laurel]

ok

but what is up with that white light around the bottom and right bezel?

[shell void]

i don’t remember why it wasn’t going fully full screen

i need to redo that photo, i took that in mid 2025

[edgy laurel]

oh, was it like Paint or something

[shell void]

so at 6 months of use mine already looked worse than yours at 3 years xd

i’ll retake two better photos tonight before and after running a clean cycle

[edgy laurel]

i dunno if its worse necessarily. if anything it just shows how normal it is

this was the guys image from that reddit post yesterday

[shell void]

these people would never know about these bars if they weren’t reading reddit posts about it and then checking on purpose

[edgy laurel]

<----

poor guy in TC1 is getting screen cleaning popups on his MSI OLED. asked what an OSD was

buckle up

[shell void]

suddenly i have no idea how monitors work

[topaz veldt]

ya'll prob never checked your SLR camera sensors for noise 🙂

[fringe vigil]

[young void]

[topaz veldt]

[fringe vigil]

[edgy laurel]

I've probably used my Nikon like twice

[fringe vigil]

[turbid locust]

Review embargo lifts for 9850X3D on the 28th apparently so that 29th release date checks out

[edgy laurel]

question is, does anyone care?

[turbid locust]

yeah

[pure garnet]

it is critical we get a review of a 3% faster cpu

[merry stirrup]

some of these users on 6000 bz timings probably have a faster experience

[green marsh]

i never understand people who sell unopened new old stock

[south shuttle]

same could go for backlight bleed and ips glow and uniformity

[green marsh]

275 euros for a 'new' 5900xt

[shell void]

nah those are visible at all times

since the backlight is static

[south shuttle]

oled bars/strips are also static

[shell void]

nah they’re only produced on certain shades of dark colors or grey

[south shuttle]

they’re produced all the time

gray is just more light than a gray shade of just blue, green or red

[brave panther]

thats the neet part
its opened but from the bottom

[shell void]

if your oled is that bad then you have my dearest condolences brother kvetinky

i would return an oled panel if it had such poor uniformity that it was visible outside of test patterns

[south shuttle]

i’m just disappointed oled didn’t live up to the hype

especially glossy

[shell void]

i would take my glossy 4K IPS monitor over a 1440p qd-oled so i can understand not being wowed

my 4K W-OLED is my beloved though

[south shuttle]

semi matte is my true love

or semi glossy

i don’t really find the graininess of matte anyways unless it’s some really rough tn panel which matte has been heavily used

[shell void]

qd oled has the best example of semi glossy so i dont think you like that

perhaps you just like matte

[south shuttle]

mine are glossy