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well it’s a 13900k that died
i’m just assuming rma will be a 14900k
i just know the stock microcode is still too high so i didn’t know how much clock i need to knock out
5.4p 4.3e 4.3 ring/cache with hyper threading disabled
basically this at any given clock=cpu isnt going to die
don’t punch in 5.7 if it’s a vanilla 13900K xD those have crappy silicon
they said 14900k
intel has replaced every 13900k with a 14900k in recent memory
so it’s whatever they get back from rma
I mean what's the difference
a couple hundred mhz
can i do this with ht on
they may need it idk them that well
i would be shocked if you coudlnt
well i mean do it without like
it blowin itself up on auto
i do not know what motherboard it is or anything yet
just set a vrv limit of 1400 or 1450 then typical svid case and it will probably be fine
with a limit all you have to worry about is dropping clocks under extremely heavy loads where the cpu wants to request 1.5v (for no reason)
if i set vrv to 1400 that’ll just be perma 1.4v max allowed?
i can probably just set that then
i literally have a raptor machine right next to me i should just like
if its requesting 1.4 for x clock it wont hit that clock
go figure this out
even if vcore under load is 1.25
but basically vrv 1400 would block vid requests for 1.5 or whatever?
mhm
basically that is what stops the cpu from blowing up
the rest is clawing back performance intel took away
that is all i care about then
i’ll do 1.35v on the work system to be safe since it’s a 24/7 install
and then 1.4 on the homies system
1.35 probably will not let it boost very well
dude we’re on a 2700k
1.35 is a very conservative 24/7 voltage even for a production system
bz recos 1450 so even 1400 is safe
im quitting and moving states in like half a year
so i’m just gonna set it up to be perma safe even if it loses some perf
fair enough
i could technically give them the ks
and take the 13700k home with me
but i don’t think a 13700k will be very fun anyway
honestly probably not but it is technically better
yeah and i can go from the cpu sucks to the mpower is a torture chamber
finally! How do they compare to NH-A14X25 G2S
Now I need to build another PC to use these
Do any of yall have any experience with coilwhine coming from PSUs/Motherboards 🥺
nearly everyone
I have this horrible noise. A few weeks ago I sent my new PC back and RMAed their CPU Fan for a rattling noise. The blowing "wuuuuu" noise sadly still persists. Even if ALL the fans in the PC are off. Which leads me to believe its either: Coil whine for the CPU / mobo or its a thing of the case with the holes of it acting like a flute. Does that sounds senseable?
just watched coyote ugly, loved it
unless you can verify its not spinning
or it could be coil whine from any component with electricity going through it
gpus are common for it
with all the fans off, does it increase with a GPU based load? CPU based? benchmarks for either are a quick way to see
the GPU wasnt plugged in so that cant be it, the case fans I unplugged, the CPU fan I stopped momentarily, so it must be the PSU and/or the motherboard
occt has a coil whine detector now iirc
what, really?
I did start Cinebench multi core and it increases yes
this is incredible lol
genius idea
It is also a PSU from the Prebuilt company. They arent bad and they have a pretty good rep (and its made in 🇩🇪)
Though their CPU fan also makes a very quiet humming noise which makes me think (as the PSU shares the same fan) that it could be that
Would that be an idea to figure this out? 🤔
yeah
if its coil whine and not a physical fan, possibly
it’ll stress the parts and make it make a specific noise
so if you hear that noise you know what’s causing it
Im downloading it right now
I've heard of some motherboards VRM's be noisy but thats not very common
This whole thing has been driving me mad so far 🥺 its so loud I can hear it WITH headphones on in games
Well, dont know if you remember, but I did get stuck with the B840 Plus Wifi from Asus prime so ....
Would that be an RMA-able thing aswell?
3 seconds 😎
not sure
GPU companies don't like RMAing for coil whine but some still do
i bought it from a prebuilt company, the whole PC, so they might
Otherwise i might have to bring out the special move
In all seriousness though, its unreasonably loud. Like i said, Cairo, Battlefield 6, in the middle of WW3, and all I hear is my PC playing the flute
you'd need to be 100% thats what it is and what component is causing it, or at least I would want to be
Well last time I RMAed something with them it took 3 weeks, they fixed the CPU fan but not the case fan that also had a problem so 😫
And thats AFTER i wrote them a 5000 letter essay on what is wrong, where its wrong, why its wrong and what I would want for it 🥺
RMAed a whole PC for a CPU cooler issue?
yes because id lose the entire warranty if id have changed it myself. 🙄
yuck
i can’t imagine the board would be very noisy
And i honestly dont see a reason to buy another CPU fan if they sent me a broken one. Like why cant they pay for it if they sold me broken shit?
it’s a pretty simple vrm
so it must be the 850W PSU
because if the GPU is out and all other fans are off... theres not much else right
checking out this coil whine test
my system is dead silent so i'm not sure i'm going to hear anything
yes, i am looking into it how to do it in that app
Yeah im suddenly drawing 300W and my electrical counter started spinning like a CD player
Doesnt seem to trigger my issue unfortunately (as i still am 100% sure its not the GPU) so that sadly didnt fix anything. thank you for the suggestion though
it did make it louder when I ran the test, so it still sounds like its a PSU issue with the voltage going up and stuff
im running in circles here 😭 if I unplug the fans, it happens, if I turn up the fans it gets louder too, could it be the case holes afterall 🤔
<@&750150305383186585> scam
I might 😂 need the money to replace whatever part is doing the noise (jk)
why you reddem the card
<@&750150305383186585>s explode this guys balls
Uh huh so what you're saying is that is if all of Kai cenats 3 million Twitter followers saw that he would give out 8 billion dollars?
Do you have any other ideas perhaps 🥺 that dont involve replacing the PSU or so? anything to figure it out? Cause i dont have a 2nd PSU to test it
various loads and getting your ear in there. no other way around it
Just send it back
load it up, determine what component it is, complain to whoever it is thats responsible
its not a complicated issue
the thing I cant figure out is if its the motherboard or the PSU or the case holes or a fan afterall unfortunatenly. But yeah that sounds like a plann
Isn't it a pre Bulit just complain to them and forget about it
cause i keep running in circles. And sadly the prebuilt company is very ass regarding service
I did. I sent it , they did the bare minimum and didnt fix the problem entirely and now im sitting here again. Had to last a full month without a PC
zeus, smite this guy
Yall reckon this looks good? Scared 😂
msi 3060 ti ventus 2x. Bios found with msi center
Pcb erotic content
why is this a video of a phone playing a video
timestamped https://youtu.be/F_Tb4UIpHM0?t=52
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my guy the dude talking is pauls hardware and its from that video from him
Paul’s my dad
go somewhere else to troll
Give me a sticker idea
dang it! you weren’t supposed to notice!
Well that's an iPad playing a video
jerry.. i expected nothing but i'm still disappointed
<@&750150305383186585>
thats two in 20 minutes
why are you updating the vbios?
Rebar support
Anyway I did it and it succeeded after checking with the smartest version of gemini. Decided I could probably trust it to be right lol
holy shit we're doomed
trusting an LLM which doesn't know fuck all if my hyper specific vbios update won't brick my GPU
I mean I just wanted confirmation on the specific numbers and ID but true 😭
our kids are fucked
I would trust an MSI support article less
...
I would trust an MSI support article about 1000x more
Nah they write some dumb stuff. If I had followed their m-flash tutorial exactly there is a likelihood I wouldve soft-bricked my pc
you mean the rename and push a button one?
brother
i followed the m flash tutorial
and it worked perfectly fine
pebkac
Yeah but there are some conflicts with secure boot. Csm. Uefi. Gpt. Mbr.
HEY
yeah, if jerry can figure it out, its good enough
you know that mflash doesn’t involve secure boot or uefi legacy mode right
I was just a bit paranoid cause it seems like on gigabyte and msi B550 there’s a lot of people with black screen after update
it’s done by a separate mcu
Well all I know is the comment section on that video is a nightmare lol
@plucky finch hate to ping you specifically but it’s been like 35 mins lol
Something about if the drive is MBR maybe. Dunno really. But their video mentioned nothing about it, didnt mention importance of fat32 either
would hate to see someone actually fall for that shit
We saw that
this one still
they should add an option to warship where if like 5 people flag a message it gets removed
and this one
Mods sleeping fr
Thank you guys
Mods letting Jesus take the wheel
Oh shit they're awake
bro just got access to his account back
might be the funniest interaction i’ve seen today
Fair but they have another vid for mflash
Sorry about the delays, I’m currently on vacay and I’m playing board games with my friends
No worries my goat
are you winning
No haha
Ah, okay then.
oh like this one?
Just give me the power Momo, i'm trustworthy
right guys.
right
Why do I have a feeling there might be more to come and those three were just the beginning?
i mean realistically yeah
no give me the power
Give me the power momo
I'll ban everyone I don't like, trust
do not give jerry the power bro
don't give jerry any power
why
he would lose 3 val games in a row then ban half of us
reasons
Hah! Nope
no no no i would ban all of the staff members
Hmmmm...
Naww, like actually naww. Nevermind.
Guilty, you have to ban all the 1440p "2k" people
I am too emotionally tired to mod a server at this size.
I mean I already knew about fat32 but still
oh, immediately
jk.. jokes i would respect the power
(mbr sometimes) + fat32 is required because that’s all the firmware that handles the flash can do
oh wait i think m flash is just normal bios update
1440p qd oled? straight to jail
yeah you don't need fat32 for that
it’s both
the one in bios i just do off my nvme but the usb one is usually f32 only
Makes sense. The people saying exfat didnt work probably had other issues
At least with Gigabyte, Q-Flash is normal BIOS level updating. Q-Flash Plus is the powered off, USB stick and button method.
and on gigabyte for some reason it HAS to be mbr formatted even in bios
asrock too
worlds worst software company
my z890 ocf didn’t require mbr
had to be mbr on my b550 tomahawk
I thought my 10y/o Microcenter 8GB USB2 drive I use for BIOS flashing onlyl died
low key i think my pc is currently mbr formatted
turns out I had somehow made it GPT
doesn't really matter
usb drives age like fine wine for bios flashback
the drive i use to install windows is some random 128gb usb i lost the covering for
so it’s just an exposed pcb
I was going nuts. formatted it like 5 times, it seemed to work fine in normal use in FAT32. Then I caught some random reddit comment about ensureing it was MBR
boom, flashback worked immediately
last time i had use flashback i had to find an old usb 2 flash drive
because it didn't play well with usb 3
yeah thats why I wanna keep it alive, the only working USB2 drive I have anymore
flashback gets to be janky since it’s really a last resort thing
I exchanged my AirPods Max usbc for the Sony wh-1000xm6 and I have no regrets
That Czech rumor ruined all hype for the steam deck lmfao
have yall tried those bios chip flasher tools
i mean it includes tax
so probably 800 usd
Valve is going to have to make an announcement on the Actual price 😭
still i’d rather have a ps5 for half the price
real shit
the steam cube hasn’t really interested me since they said it wouldn’t be subsided by steam the platform
before ram prices i wouldn’t have paid more than $499 for one imo
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holy shit guys I can't tell you how unattactive this is as a product I would want to own
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6KQKPJ
i mean seems pretty fair
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 7600X, Radeon RX 7600, BitFenix Nova Mesh M ARGB MicroATX Mini Tower
And they were using mobile parts for it too.
wait hear me out
they were doing that to lower your expectations
and then they are going to drop the price heard around the world https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExaAYIKsDBI
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i have 1080p dual mode and that already kinda sucks for more than val
i refuse to believe 720p would be fun at all
he's talking like some games with fine HUD elements are completely illegible

At what point
Does refresh rate stop mattering
once we have the bandwidth and controllers to do at least 1440p 1000hz

DP 2.1 can just do it with DSC at 8-bit
Do these new monitors have gsync pulsar
fuck if i know, i haven't bothered paying attention to anything. michael is here, he's got it all memorized
the only pulsar monitors that you can actually buy right now are 1440p 360Hz IPS
Asus XG27AQNGV for example, it's $650
Ew
Pulsar is very cool tech but not cool enough for me to go back to 1440p LCD
When gsync pulsar on 1000hz displays
Still not aware of any displays that make use of TB5's 120Gb/s unidirectional mode
since a monitor is about the only relevant use case for a unidirectional mode
as refresh rate goes up and frame gen improves the appeal of pulsar will disappear
just wait, it'll be Apple.. but then again they like to make use of peripherals connected to their monitors
Is it just bfi without screen tearing
this give the same energy as the 500 cigarrettes meme
yes it's rolling scan backlight strobing combined with 75-360Hz VRR
it quadruples the perceived motion clarity when eyetracking a moving object
quadruples relative to the current refresh rate
at 360fps+ 360Hz you get the perceived eye-tracked motion clarity of a 1440Hz display
backlight strobing is kind of useless in tactical shooters like CS2 and Valorant because youre not eyetracking fast moving objects
Temet and all other neon players:
neon makes me mald
Damn I just spent $35 on cheese
optimal
what does biggicheese do now
He does talk in WCE every now and then
I need to route Ethernet
Im curious what 32 inch 4k mini led or non oleds has aoc and ktc pr koruii shown?
I know of maybe 2 to 3 32 inch mini led monitors what were at ces 2026 lack of booth tours with details about monitors from aoc or ktc is very odd
Tbh though as off the moment im heavily leaning towards mkc m10 ultra
@shell void what was that great analogy you used when explaining how when focusing on the content, you don't notice the reflections in a glossy panel
it was similar to something else and I can't recall what it was
W desk choices
i mean it’s the same thing with a mirror too
you can focus on the surface of the mirror, or you can focus on the reflection in the mirror
i thought everyone could do this but maybe not
BIRDS
If I could not control ambient light in my office the glossy display would be horribly distracting
Because the $0.00 sale using this credit card still passes card information through to the merchant.
is slap an a2000 in that every day
Anyone got advice for testing... suspicious motherboards?
because a lot of times thieves will test a $0.00 or $0.01 to see if the card is valid, and then hit a big money scam
well it mildly annoyed me
Holy CRAP this might actually be the push it takes to get me to switch over to linux
I absolutely hate when windows wakes itself, installs updates and restarts after I put the system to sleep. Video editing projects i had open, incognito tabs, notepads that hadn't been saved yet, very specifically laid out charts, files, so on and so forth, so much stuff that has been disrupted because MY COMPUTER decided "it's time to install updates now". No. I hate that. I absolutely hate that! It's just like when you try to eject a flash drive and windows says "you can't eject that drive because a program is currently using it." No! Screw you! You stop that program from using the flash drive, because I'm about to remove it! This is not me asking for permission to remove my drive, this is me telling you that I'm about to remove the drive, so stop and programs from accessing it so that I can do so! I absolutely detest the fact that THE COMPUTER decides what's best for it to do and when. I feel like I'm not in control of my own system. I intentionally disabled a service that was responsible for windows updates, and it had the unintended side effect of disrupting automatic firefox tab backups from working so after my computer blue screened just now, it opened the last save from before I made that change which was over a week ago. Losing all my tabs from the last week was the price I paid for trying to stop the machine I built with my own two hands from thinking it knows better than me when it should do things I don't want it to do.
I'm getting so close to just saying screw it to the $140 license I paid to Microsoft back in 2019 for my official windows license. At least with linux, I know with 100% certainty that it will NEVER install anything without me telling it to, let alone it doing it both without asking me and doing it automatically at a time that it decides is best.
Never once in as long as I've been using Windows have updates woken up the PC, installed and rebooted it. Updates in general don't happen without my say so. This is a user problem.
Then again I also can't say what happens if you go weeks without updating and just letting it nag.
I install updates on patch tuesday when they come out and am never bothered when I don't expect it. Never. 20 years.
Have to be doing something wrong.
I'll never understand how people have those issues where windows updates when they didn't want it to. I'm not even sure how to make that happen.
I put my computer to sleep at night, and when I come back in the morning, the computer is on and running, the uptime in task manager is only a few hours, and when I check the event viewer, it shows that a service having to do with windows updates woke the system and then the system restarted. That's pretty much it.
Did it say this before you put it to sleep?
Was this on?
anyway. switch to linux if you want and have fun with that
I only open that menu when I'm trying to figure out why the system updated itself without me telling it to again, so I've got no clue whether it says it was up to date or not. And no, that box is not checked. I'm just tired of all this invasive stuff Microsoft keeps pushing with every patch. I just want to actually feel like I'm in control of my own system again, like it felt back in Win7. Hopefully Linux will be the key to that. It helps that most updates can be installed live, without even having to restart the system on Linux. My main issue is the fact that every time the computer has to reboot, it costs close to an hour of prep time getting all my stuff back into the state it was in before the restart, so having a system that can update without having to restart is gonna be a massive benefit.
@edgy laurel was a tough day today, but hopefully the last of the tough days for a while
Had the services and all
unemployment finally hit me back up
well the problem is that i have to do this while on unemployment
This is really interesting
https://www.xda-developers.com/windows-11-nvme-owners-free-speed-boost-enable/
Might just have to try
this does produce consistently higher results in benchmarks
my friend with a 13700K tested his 400GB P5800X in Server 2025 using that driver and it produced substantially higher results than my 9800X3D + 1.6TB P5800X + older windows version PC
like 50% in random read
Oh nice I’ll have to look at that 💪
though it's worth noting that some of that is from raptor lake just having higher storage performance than ryzen in any config
my 9800X3D + 1.6TB P5800X in unmodified Windows 21H2 on the left, his 400GB P5800X in Server 2025 on the right
significant random performance improvement
Those iops
at least a few operations per second
Just a few
Run 16-32k block size for more realistic and sobering metrics
In Jay’s latest video he managed to bend a 12V2X6 pin. How do you even manage this? 😆

Its Jay
Now that I have the HD 600s and Arya Stealths back to back, the Aryas are so much brighter
You’ve done it recently 5nail5, how hard is a new connector to solder on?
That one is toast
I have not done it actually I just have the parts - but also the ones I will do are in vacant sockets, so much easier
hard but not because of experience requirement really
through hole is quite easy as we all probably know but working on a 10 layer 5090 pcb with like 18 pounds of copper isnt
need quality tools and the right ones
54w each youd only need like 8-12
well worse is that even though the holes aren't populated, they filled it in with solder
so i need to flow some low melt in there and then wick it out - I haven't been motivated enough to do it
yeah not fun
Desoldering pump won’t work?
You need to add solder to remove it
otherwise it likely wont liquify at all
mixing metals makes the melting point lower blah blah
wow the apple tv is completely broken software wise
i click the volume button once, and it keeps raising the volume to max/off
Hmmmmm.
Just found out about an interesting budget short throw projector
Kinda tempting… despite already have a decent normal throw projector
Orrrr 4K projector
But. That’s harder to find for cheap lmao
are you implying my $20 iron from amazon isn't the GOAT?
I “cyberbullied”/slandered someone’s 3080 till they bought a 5070ti 
funnier to do it with someone that has a 1080 ti
well not really
the 1080ti glazers are insuferrable to talk to
real
1080ti glazers when you say a 5050 is better than it:
1080ti glazers when you say 5090: You fuckin twat i dare you to repeat that?
My whole city is covered in smoke rn from the bushfires
Before ram went insane, this was peoples reaction when I told AM4 users they should by a 7700x instead of a 5800X3D
nah man u should totally spend $400 on an am4 cpu
also mac i return to z890 bench sunday
i got a cup on 7800x3d so im happy
haswell is all u need\
does haswell even support x86v3
I got 3rd for 265KF’s ycruncher 1b but idk if I got a cup or anything lol
i’m also learning that the people above
me have engineering samples so i am less invested
AMD ES chips that make their way into end users hands usually are identical to retail chips
they just got them before release
Intel is a different story
Intel ES chips can be scuffed as fuck lmao
it’s not that them using it specifically means much but i’m rapidly approaching a wall i cannot fund further
Fair
i don’t have the money to buy an apex/gene and go crazy
We bench for fun tho so like is what it is
so i got a decent showing and now ill try my other platform out
stable daily + machine to mess with is truly meta
It really is. Whenever I get my 9850X3D I’ll bench it for awhile and then it’s going in the HDV to daily
pbo +100 bin incoming
i mean i’m ngl
I’d be surprised if it did any offset at all
i don’t expect +200 on a cpu with +400 stock
the 9800x3d is still voltage capped
afaik anyway
Like +200 on a 9850X3D would be Lisa Su bin
i think 9800x3d does 6.1 on ln2
so on ambient i wouldn’t expect 5.8 all core to be stable
nevermind 7.3 on ln2 apparently
still don’t believe 5.8 is normal/expected
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We gonna find out
Oh this is just a valid too not even benching
What’s the highest R23 all core freq
7.0
Yeah sounds more like it
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The smoke doing some funky stuff but damn it looks cool
Gotta love aus summer
Bushfires and more bushfires
does r23 not care about ram at all?
No not even close
cold makes FCLK mad
ah
Subzero yeah
https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/cinebench_-_r23_multi_core_with_benchmate/submissions/5724187 this was full pot LN2
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how much effort is it to do ln2
gotta get out of rookie and jump straight to extreme fr
The prep is kinda annoying but once your board is prepped it’s not much trouble
basically what I did
well I think I was whatever category over rookie
i need to look at the rules for what counts as a chiller
hello
afaik anything subambient counts
oh so i’m still ambient then
i haven’t submitted anything but i’ve been using my ac as a faux cold weather occasionally
so I have this problem I just got a new 1440p monitoe but for some reason my apps won't allow me to double click on them
still like 20-30c idle
But yeah most of LN2 is just prepping your board. Taking heatsinks off, coating it in LET, socket heater, thiccboi thermal pads on the back of the socket, etc.
But once that’s done it’s literally just mount LN2 pot and pour
16GB DDR3L... yeah, good luck getting that to work on Intel
Fallout vibes
I see it ngl
this may be what im implying
sir flops
bro flop
new setup
Add light bar at the bottom
I dont have room genuinly, Ive got a stream deck and capture cards in there now
excuse my shitty video skills
I think this is great use of freewill
not enough screens
nah wtf are you doing with 6 displays though I barely use my third monitor
Multitabling poker and multi accounting runescape
yikes
sir flops
what we benchin this weekend
bro does not know ball
peak scalping
lol
z890
baller
I think I’m gonna bin all my DDR5 in a spreadsheet and then go for some zen 5 gear 2 if I get time

are we gonna talk about the video instead of gif
Yes, throw all the ram sticks into a bin & then just pull 2 blindly on random from the bin & try to overclock them
kinda reasonable tbh , 1k total globally 🤔🤣
its a 7K SGD card listed for 25K SGD, you wanna pay up?
why not for collection card 🤓
If I’m reading that right… that’s like almost 29000 aud
Probably not for a while
my frist ever bad financial decision of not buying ssd i took couple of months ago 🥀
and now i need one
If it makes you feel better, we used to pay SIGNIFICANTLY more for them
why and when
Because they were new technology
Ssd
fuck ai
I wish I bought a 2 tb ssd a couple months back dammit
same
I’m actually kicking myself
my laptop has 1 free slot for 2230 but i guess even if i had bought 2tb 2280 i could replace the current one
who could have seen this coming
Anyone born before 97 lol
why
imagine
imagining
Because consumer electronics have only been stupid cheap in the 2010s. This is why Linus gets so frustrated with the entitlement during wan show. Cheap PC parts were a result of forced labor in China. There was going to be an eventual market correction.
It just happened to come via AI and now we have garbage AND forced labor.
🥀
deleting dcs will free up space
will do that in some days
and i got another 500 gb ssd
will do the job for now
also hdd prices didnt go up as much
It is... Difficult to go back to HDD
go back?
i have never in my life ever used a fucking hdd
Good for you?
my school's computers had hdd
with windows 11
hdd was the boot device btw
I can only right now lmao
ive used one which was in a imac 2015, holy slow
I’ve used multiple
I cannot wait to enter the military I’m kinda sick of my life rn lmao
crazy
why so
I like my life.
But I want it to have meaning besides going to school
school
ah i see
School and other personal affairs I need to get squared away lol
school is boring
- motherboard has headers
- you can always run them at max with molex or SATA to pwm fan adapteres
- fan controller is also an option
like you can see one header right there
another is between the CMOS battery and the first PCIe slot
Yeah, but that’s only 2, I need to plug in 4 fans
it's called PWM fan splitter
there are also ones which look like this
the pwn splitter looks easier haha
but in the end, they are all the same (the second one takes power from SATA instead of the header, thus can run more fans from single fan header)
I’ll go with the pwm splitter, thank you very much ❤️
for example, yes
Pwm, everyones beloved (unless its in a vehicle)
or display backlight, people hate it there too
Lol
btw it's kinda funny how my N100 router uses more power idling than my new fridge. 0.27 vs 0.15 kWh today (15 and half hours)
Lmfao what
That’s funny
I guess fridges aren’t super complex, well don’t have to be
the N100 mini PC as router uses ~18-19W continously. the fridge is new and very low power, so it uses ~25W for 18-20 minutes and then off for 30 minutes. So on average it is much less
meanwhile the router
they can be actually very power hungry, but this is a relatively new model, in A category in EU lanel system, so very efficient (110 kWh/year instead of your usual 150-200kWh for same size fridges).
to be fair, the biggest improvement over my old dying one is noise. The old one had a very loud, dying compressor. This one i can barely hear when active
Yeah a lot of Aus legislation follows that of the eu, so we usually benefit from similar things
We still follow the euro 5, euro 6 truck standards and whatever
That’s still fuck all haha
My pc would use more idle
why bother figuring out own standards for a 27M country when a 500M region already did it
Literally
And considering Europe usually has their shit sorted pretty well with that stuff, what’s the point of coming up with our own
Australia tends to benefit from other countries benefiting haha
Hi
my pc lol
350w = arc raiders time
my server + desktop + monitors + UPS + switch
(at night it uses more power now because it is transcoding stuff, otherwise it would be ~90W at night)
i am installing 9070xt next week, i wonder how power hungry it will be then
house lol
hello i have a concern that my 5080 isnt performing how it should now how can i asure that i am right or make sure that the gou is working exactly how it should
Run a benchmark and compare scores with other 5080
yea under perfoming of exavtly 11%
Do you happen to have a 5070Ti instead
seems like it
ROPS CHECK
I want a 5070 Ti
https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-R9700AI-TOP-32GD-rev-10
wtf didnt know this existed
Why does does my pc keep forcing me into bios
it’s gonna blow
Back in the day I was always told to pull the cmos battery
having not assembled a pc in years I dont kno if thats still valid
will reset your bios, you may need to let it sit for a bit after as there may still be charge in the capacitors
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WvNBfd
Best $500 PC for my niece?
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 3600, GeForce RTX 2080, Lian Li A3-mATX MicroATX Mini Tower
it’s fine
whats up all
yo
hows it going maccy
chillin. At a dealership with a friend buying a car actually lol
Oh nice what're they buying
a car
ever since moving here i now understand why people dont like cyclists i thought they just meant bicyclists but no its like a thing the cyclists are not friendly
i wouldnt go so far as to say its like ecoterrorism but its like emotional terrorism cause they arent kind people
Speaking of terrorism... I am not proud lol. I was AFK and came back...
u grind this game bro
Have you played it @fringe vigil
ofc
did you fix it? but when i disables compatibility support on my mobo it would refuse to boot from my MBR boot ssd because it wasn't set to gpt
@fringe vigil
arc goobers
its so good
Turbo 4 banger actually
This is what I said lol
no V!?
Nah he didn’t want it
I agree but it makes sense for him lol. Besides I drove it and it’s got plenty pep tbh
lol nice?
fml
oof
backyard firepit thing?
yeaaaaaaaaaaaah next payment
but yeah it’s a really cool spec and a nice green color. Cool asf ngl. I’ll send a pic later
Typhoon metallic
RIP my brother
it’s like an Isle of Man green if it were a BMW
Township wanted me to spend another $5k to have an engineer assess that it won't kill toads
fuck them toads
eh its darker
less loud
It looks better in person
I looked at some G80 isle greens and its too bright
Do you know what's funny? Its more like my 1992 525i color lol
@turbid locust
Yep!
hes ass
he shot me across the maintenance area 5 mins earlier and ran like a bitch
he is not good
lool
"Probably dead cpu. 200 bux. I know what I got!"
"it's dead and i want to reimburse the 5700 that i had to replace it with by selling you this dead cpu"

XD
Most annoying thing about using HD 600 and Arya Stelath is that HD 600 are 300 Ohms and Stealths are 32 Ohms... volume settings
I'm oddly tempted to offer 50
#NobodyAskedForThis
and then the motherboard vrm and system memory are locked in a glass box with no airflow XD
phanteks has fallen off so hard
That dumbassery is Phanteks?!
unfortunately
Wtf
i was a phanteks shill in the 2010s so it hurts to see them having fallen off so hard in the last 6 years
I mean, there's a good chance that this never leaves the show floor
This is duuuuumb
i havent liked any of the cases that theyve launched in years
Cyberpower wants to be HAVN, but this is a decent looking case
there's nothing offensive about that, but it's very boring
It was good, but yeah, not exciting
Have they even released anything interesting in the last 3 years?
Phanteks was so cool in this era
@topaz veldt
I'm having my GF repaint my Enthoo Evolv as a Christmas gift
Two tone color shift paint
Evolv X2 is kinda interesting but not something that i would buy
the og enthoo evolv? that's a nice case
yo any of yall know how to remove a front panel for a tower?
lol
i cant find the screws for mine idk
Depends on the tower.
Most don't have screws
uhh idk it had like stoppers or somrthing
@edgy laurel @steel stream @low sorrel WTF is up with this game rofl
its.from.a.prebuilt ibuyppwer idk the specific tower
i dont wanna break it so im sorta being conservative
It's a thing with the stuff and the doodads.
So you push on the part, then pull on the stuff, and twist the what's it and it'll open.
I'm going to laugh when the inevitable answer is "pull"
or wait lemme ping yall there if thats fine
i cant exactly pull cause it looks like the front panel swoops under
uhh
can't decide if this is worse. 50 euros for FM2 motherboard with 8+4GB RAM and other 2 RAM slots not working, without CPU 😄
also LOL, X99E-WS 6900K 4x4GB RAM for 300 euros 😄
but PCIe
sure, but the CPU and RAM doesn't make it worth 300 euros
another with X299-A II + 10900X (no RAM). Also with that stupid ASUS M.2 slot design
this one is 'only' 240 euros
I'd pay $1000
now this is somewhat better for 400 euros
GIGABYTE MZ31‑AR0 (Rev. 1.x) + AMD EPYC 7551
meh
i mean compared to previous 2 items i posted
its all e-waste brother
no, this is ewaste 😄
guy is trying to sell the motherboard, unused , unopened... for 465 euros
I need new PC shit
yeah markets mad boring rn
for serious
we need new cpus and gpus
i have a Realtek 10Gbe NIC here waiting to be installed in my server instead of Connect X3
old shit
not the realtek
but realtek dafuq
i know, but its realtek
has ASPM, <2W power usage, probably even has WoL
ASPM is an issue with most affordable 10Gbe NICs, WoL is an issue with every intel 10Gbe NIC (except one model)...
sounds like a typical e1000 driver experience then
lol what the fuck
these wouldve been so cool if memory pricing didnt quadruple
Yes the driver that's been prevalent for 25 years has issues but the shitty shoebox driver is great
🙃
you often had to disable bunch of hardware offloading https://nb.balaji.blog/posts/fix-intel-e1000-proxmox-hang/
Rancid board, only supports 7001
and it was happening even before that bug report https://www.phoronix.com/news/E1000E-Crazy-Hangs
or 11 years ago https://serverfault.com/questions/616485/e1000e-reset-adapter-unexpectedly-detected-hardware-unit-hang
I mean it could be a long standing Linux issue, but still, i had it happen nearly daily when my servers had some Intel NICs. At morning i woke up with server unreachable, until i disabled various hardware offloads
is that a 2x128 kit?
i think i just heard the ryzen memory controller pop and smoke
last ADATA memory kit i had was in DDR2 era
like this one
peak
nah OCZ was peak
What's the price estimate
estimate ? They sell on aliexpress for 40-50 euros usually
there are two versions, one with PCIe 3.0 x2 and one with PCIe 4.0 x1 interface, some with RJ45, some with SFP interface
keep in mind that it supporting ASPM means systems can go to lower C-states, thus saving energy there too
How much does it save realistically though
4-6w on nic alone, few more watts on the system. I move the old nic to another system tho, so no money lost there
are the ram prices never gonna drop
vid requests on my 13700k are already below 1.35v @merry stirrup
oh wait i might’ve had locked to 5.0 max
yo how do u remove a cpu block off of cpu properly? mine is super stuck to cpu
ive been twisting for like 5 mins straight now
it barely even twists
hair dryer
i dont got one
boot the pc back up and let it warm up then
i cant, i have the pc in a separate area cause i dont have space
I hope not
I was gonna say something like that, I’m still waiting for a good price to sell my RAM
if the paste is cold and stuck, it must warm up
do i just point it at the cpu
yeah
its safe to or do i havr to be careful
it might get hot or smth
i havr disconnected thr radiator fyi
If you're selling consumer RAM you've lost the narrative
all you’re doing is blowing some hot air at it for like 15 seconds to pop the cooler off
I got 4 dimms of 48gb 6800 for $250 a year ago why tf wouldn’t I sell them if they’re going $900 per kit
6800?
Yes 6800
bin of despair
They’re good chips iirc
damn did it for 20 seconds it aint budging
Floppa said it was a good one I think
more time ig
did you unscrew the cooler
yes
floppa actually knows nothing about ram
Floppa is a sigma
fr dude broke his
i’ve ran ycruncher on the new work pc and i miss avx512
shit was like 32 seconds for 1b
I got 2 of these F5-6800J3446F48GX2-RS5K
Speaking of thanks for reminding me I need to move everything to the new case
yeah idk what to do, its still not budging
i cant aim the hairdryer under cause its too big
boot up the pc then
Literally just run it so the paste gets goopy
thr radiator isnt connected tho
do i just plug the PSU in and thsts it?
it’s an aio
yeah aio
he pulled the radiator but can’t get the block off
all fans are disconnected
Literally just run it hot
for rad
If the cpu gets too hot the pc automatically shuts off you have literally nothing to worry about
so do i just plug the PSU in?
Whatever you need to turn on the pc
The worse thing that I’ve ever done was do a bios update and forget the cpu cooler installation
It shut itself off after getting too hot mid update lol
Bricked the board
just keep on trying to separate but not too hard
oh it already shut off
Bruh
did you try to remove the block
Do it again and just pull not too hard while it’s on
I don’t want you ripping out the socket like someone else did before
yeah
Maybe the paste is so crusted that it doesn’t get goopy?
This is out of my understanding now, can someone take over
Did you try a YouTube video
might need some elbow grease at this point
they all said twist then pull gently
lol someone used thermal adheasive instead of a paste
There you go
elmer’s glue is my favorite conductor
I bet the heat helped
watch a video
al the vids.on this new aio dont show the case install
then read the manual

poggers
no way they dispatched it after 1.5 months
lemme see...
wait
do i gotta put a new backplate on?
someone told me.i didnt have to
uhhh manual i think wants me.to mount radiator first?
not you
o
https://x.com/digitalfoundry/status/2009997592634245494?s=46 Pantherlake is gonna be really cool for handheld gaming machines
First impressions of Intel's Panther Lake are highly impressive: even with ray tracing active, we have a mobile GPU able to deliver entry-level desktop GPU performance: https://t.co/Ukd7NPb17g
how much of that is upscaled and generated frames though
I found a homeserver containing 32gb x 4 ddr4 2400mhz for $300. I'm not buying it, but is that worth it just for the ram? It's ddr4 and slow but should still be worth a lot no?
Eh is it's 4x8? No, probably not
you mind sending me that link so i can buy it if you aren't?
The said XeSS Balanced took it up to 56fps… so… either barely any upscaling or none at all for that screenshot.
Either way why does it matter? It’s a feature of the hardware to be used.
id say so, i still hate upscaling and generated frames, but i guess im in the minority noew
“We ran Cyberpunk 2077 at native 1080p at ultra settings with RT reflections and shadows turned on along with chromatic aberration, vignetting and film grain turned off”
So yeah no upscaling and whatnot
Hate it for what lmao

ruins benchmarks and doesnt look good IMO
shits dope asf
I can understand frame gen, but modern day DLSS is black magic
why is the igpu beating my RX 6600
oh wait no that's frame time
yeah that sucks not even 27ms, anything above 27ms is unbearable
What resolution
i primarily play 1440
checks out
well then of course upscaling looks bad
what gpu
you're rendering at like 600 pixels when you upscale to 1440p
@toxic grotto
3070
hmmm
DLSS Transformer on its highest quality setting should be acceptable even at 1440p but
ive also never seen it give much of a benefit in the games i play, framerates hardly increase but quality decreases quite a lot. Its just a personal thing
Pls show link
I need ram
That ram is probably worth more than $300
i also agree with akn where frame gen is the real killer when it comes to benchmarks but there needs to be like - like comparisons
I think as long as it’s clearly stated I have no issue
@steel stream @topaz veldt they will never find the body
1440p quality is aight, usuable but you can def nitpick
i will
I’ve been on 4K for almost a year so I don’t really remember. But beyond that when I was on 1440p I also had an XTX so I didn’t really have to use upscaling.
It's a whole computer, and It's in Norway.
Damn
I'm guessing most people here aren't from Norway
Probably not
I am not quite sure how it fares with 4.5 but quality upscaling when I used it reminded me of balanced or performance 4k
I deadass use balanced a lot so
This a good price?
not a real price
Seems like it, no wonder it sold so fast
Yes excellent price
we have fbmb here too, but It's mabye 2% real listings
All others are scams. And obvious ones too
Not in Norway. It's mostly scams
I wouldn't buy a used Intel 13/14th cpu
Most of them are even listed in the wrong language
And they all have a sketchy link in the description were they claim they purchased it from.

Does it come with the figure?
Gaming PC on AM4- RTX30805600x57032GB1000WWIN11 for $100
Why are white tuf 5070 tis sold out everywhere
ai
anyone know what overlay this is? it shows up when I press any button and I have everything closed but steam
Thats the steam overlay
Turn it off bc it hurts ur fps badly
I didnt even know steam had an overlay
and a game recording and clipping feature miles ahead of Nvidia and AMD
the Steam overlay does not hurt your FPS badly
Do clipping softwares have much inpact on FPS?
any real-time encoding will have an impact on peak performance
even if GPU/hardware based
But does it have a lot?
what does a lot mean. it will vary depending on your hardware, the game and the settings you're using
Idk
I just don't want it to be noticable in any games
i'm not giving specifics because thats impossible to do for every scenario
I just found an old listing I was gonna buy
8 64gb dimms for $40 each
I sold so hard
Every streamer/youtuber is doing it, literally every one. If that helps ease your mind. Nobody is using external capture cards in any real numbers anymore.
I see 4 x 32gb, 128gb ddr4 2400mhz for $300. This is the price for the homeserver including a gtx1650, cpu etc
@topaz veldt is this what you pay for them now?
You said you get them way cheaper
you can tell that was made by someone who has no idea what they're doing
the options are apples and oranges
IPS is a variant of LCD, not a type of panel on its own. TFT is a tech used in all LCD's, hell even in some AMOLED phont screens
guy's clueless whoever made that
IPS 
Irritable pp syndrome
can we ban led headlights
ford f150 owners explaining how they need the blindotron package to get home safely (the rest of the highway is full blind)
well if everyone can't see, then no one can't see
yawn
F150 owners explaining why they need a 3ft lift kit done on their car (it’s not for rock crawling)
ofc it's samsung
I had the same thing almost bought a xeon server with 24 cores and 512 gb of ram for a little over $1700 now it’s well over $3000 and I’m gonna need more ram before the end up of 2026 but I have ddr5 in my server so I’m cooked
can we mandate matrix led instead?
It's the illegal brightness and stupid tall SUVs and trucks that make it worse
We should ban oem headlights that don't have easily replaceable bulbs
Like the sealed all in one units
my son is funny: "Dad, I thought the black computer was the best why is the white computer turned on?"
this is sick

