#tech-chat-2

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shell void
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i would copy the 13900K for sanity if it’s a noob’s PC

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especially if they’ve had one die before

pure garnet
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well it’s a 13900k that died

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i’m just assuming rma will be a 14900k

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i just know the stock microcode is still too high so i didn’t know how much clock i need to knock out

shell void
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5.4p 4.3e 4.3 ring/cache with hyper threading disabled

merry stirrup
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basically this at any given clock=cpu isnt going to die

shell void
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don’t punch in 5.7 if it’s a vanilla 13900K xD those have crappy silicon

merry stirrup
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they said 14900k

pure garnet
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intel has replaced every 13900k with a 14900k in recent memory

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so it’s whatever they get back from rma

hoary hatch
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I mean what's the difference

pure garnet
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a couple hundred mhz

pure garnet
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they may need it idk them that well

merry stirrup
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i would be shocked if you coudlnt

pure garnet
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well i mean do it without like

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it blowin itself up on auto

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i do not know what motherboard it is or anything yet

merry stirrup
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just set a vrv limit of 1400 or 1450 then typical svid case and it will probably be fine

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with a limit all you have to worry about is dropping clocks under extremely heavy loads where the cpu wants to request 1.5v (for no reason)

pure garnet
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if i set vrv to 1400 that’ll just be perma 1.4v max allowed?

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i can probably just set that then

merry stirrup
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1.4 max requested

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so like even if the cpu isnt at 1.4 under load

pure garnet
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i literally have a raptor machine right next to me i should just like

merry stirrup
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if its requesting 1.4 for x clock it wont hit that clock

pure garnet
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go figure this out

merry stirrup
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even if vcore under load is 1.25

pure garnet
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but basically vrv 1400 would block vid requests for 1.5 or whatever?

merry stirrup
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mhm

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basically that is what stops the cpu from blowing up

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the rest is clawing back performance intel took away

pure garnet
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that is all i care about then

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i’ll do 1.35v on the work system to be safe since it’s a 24/7 install

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and then 1.4 on the homies system

merry stirrup
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1.35 probably will not let it boost very well

pure garnet
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dude we’re on a 2700k

merry stirrup
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1.35 is a very conservative 24/7 voltage even for a production system

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bz recos 1450 so even 1400 is safe

pure garnet
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im quitting and moving states in like half a year

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so i’m just gonna set it up to be perma safe even if it loses some perf

merry stirrup
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fair enough

pure garnet
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i could technically give them the ks

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and take the 13700k home with me

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but i don’t think a 13700k will be very fun anyway

merry stirrup
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honestly probably not but it is technically better

pure garnet
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yeah and i can go from the cpu sucks to the mpower is a torture chamber

merry stirrup
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i like this

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didnt realise it'd have a crypto caption but fuck it

topaz veldt
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finally! How do they compare to NH-A14X25 G2S

wraith steeple
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I will buy a couple three packs at some point. Plan on using 420s in muh M2XL

topaz veldt
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Now I need to build another PC to use these

reef grove
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Do any of yall have any experience with coilwhine coming from PSUs/Motherboards 🥺

edgy laurel
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nearly everyone

reef grove
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I have this horrible noise. A few weeks ago I sent my new PC back and RMAed their CPU Fan for a rattling noise. The blowing "wuuuuu" noise sadly still persists. Even if ALL the fans in the PC are off. Which leads me to believe its either: Coil whine for the CPU / mobo or its a thing of the case with the holes of it acting like a flute. Does that sounds senseable?

fringe vigil
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just watched coyote ugly, loved it

pure garnet
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i mean the psu has a fan

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you much be hearing that

edgy laurel
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unless you can verify its not spinning

pure garnet
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or it could be coil whine from any component with electricity going through it

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gpus are common for it

edgy laurel
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with all the fans off, does it increase with a GPU based load? CPU based? benchmarks for either are a quick way to see

reef grove
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the GPU wasnt plugged in so that cant be it, the case fans I unplugged, the CPU fan I stopped momentarily, so it must be the PSU and/or the motherboard

pure garnet
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occt has a coil whine detector now iirc

edgy laurel
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what, really?

reef grove
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I did start Cinebench multi core and it increases yes

edgy laurel
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genius idea

reef grove
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It is also a PSU from the Prebuilt company. They arent bad and they have a pretty good rep (and its made in 🇩🇪)

Though their CPU fan also makes a very quiet humming noise which makes me think (as the PSU shares the same fan) that it could be that

reef grove
pure garnet
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yeah

edgy laurel
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if its coil whine and not a physical fan, possibly

pure garnet
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it’ll stress the parts and make it make a specific noise

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so if you hear that noise you know what’s causing it

reef grove
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Im downloading it right now

edgy laurel
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I've heard of some motherboards VRM's be noisy but thats not very common

fringe vigil
reef grove
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This whole thing has been driving me mad so far 🥺 its so loud I can hear it WITH headphones on in games

reef grove
reef grove
edgy laurel
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GPU companies don't like RMAing for coil whine but some still do

reef grove
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i bought it from a prebuilt company, the whole PC, so they might

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Otherwise i might have to bring out the special move

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In all seriousness though, its unreasonably loud. Like i said, Cairo, Battlefield 6, in the middle of WW3, and all I hear is my PC playing the flute

edgy laurel
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you'd need to be 100% thats what it is and what component is causing it, or at least I would want to be

reef grove
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Well last time I RMAed something with them it took 3 weeks, they fixed the CPU fan but not the case fan that also had a problem so 😫

And thats AFTER i wrote them a 5000 letter essay on what is wrong, where its wrong, why its wrong and what I would want for it 🥺

edgy laurel
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RMAed a whole PC for a CPU cooler issue?

reef grove
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yes because id lose the entire warranty if id have changed it myself. 🙄

edgy laurel
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yuck

pure garnet
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i can’t imagine the board would be very noisy

reef grove
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And i honestly dont see a reason to buy another CPU fan if they sent me a broken one. Like why cant they pay for it if they sold me broken shit?

pure garnet
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it’s a pretty simple vrm

reef grove
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so it must be the 850W PSU

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because if the GPU is out and all other fans are off... theres not much else right

edgy laurel
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checking out this coil whine test

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my system is dead silent so i'm not sure i'm going to hear anything

reef grove
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yes, i am looking into it how to do it in that app

edgy laurel
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you pick a "tune" for it to play

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appears to just be testing the GPU

reef grove
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Yeah im suddenly drawing 300W and my electrical counter started spinning like a CD player

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Doesnt seem to trigger my issue unfortunately (as i still am 100% sure its not the GPU) so that sadly didnt fix anything. thank you for the suggestion though

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it did make it louder when I ran the test, so it still sounds like its a PSU issue with the voltage going up and stuff

edgy laurel
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if that didn't trigger it, it probably isn't the PSU either

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oh

reef grove
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im running in circles here 😭 if I unplug the fans, it happens, if I turn up the fans it gets louder too, could it be the case holes afterall 🤔

fringe vigil
edgy laurel
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<@&750150305383186585> scam

wraith steeple
reef grove
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I might 😂 need the money to replace whatever part is doing the noise (jk)

fringe vigil
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why you reddem the card

turbid locust
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<@&750150305383186585>s explode this guys balls

low sorrel
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Uh huh so what you're saying is that is if all of Kai cenats 3 million Twitter followers saw that he would give out 8 billion dollars?

reef grove
# edgy laurel oh

Do you have any other ideas perhaps 🥺 that dont involve replacing the PSU or so? anything to figure it out? Cause i dont have a 2nd PSU to test it

edgy laurel
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various loads and getting your ear in there. no other way around it

low sorrel
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Just send it back

edgy laurel
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load it up, determine what component it is, complain to whoever it is thats responsible

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its not a complicated issue

reef grove
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the thing I cant figure out is if its the motherboard or the PSU or the case holes or a fan afterall unfortunatenly. But yeah that sounds like a plann

low sorrel
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Isn't it a pre Bulit just complain to them and forget about it

reef grove
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cause i keep running in circles. And sadly the prebuilt company is very ass regarding service

reef grove
merry stirrup
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zeus, smite this guy

vagrant tangle
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Yall reckon this looks good? Scared 😂

msi 3060 ti ventus 2x. Bios found with msi center

snow holly
edgy laurel
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why is this a video of a phone playing a video

snow holly
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I am genius

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Don’t question me

edgy laurel
snow holly
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Not the same video

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Different source

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What a terrible take

edgy laurel
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my guy the dude talking is pauls hardware and its from that video from him

snow holly
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Paul’s my dad

edgy laurel
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go somewhere else to troll

snow holly
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Give me a sticker idea

merry stirrup
low sorrel
edgy laurel
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jerry.. i expected nothing but i'm still disappointed

random flame
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<@&750150305383186585>

edgy laurel
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thats two in 20 minutes

hoary hatch
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I filled out the form and I still haven't gotten my free crypto

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😡

pure garnet
vagrant tangle
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Rebar support

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Anyway I did it and it succeeded after checking with the smartest version of gemini. Decided I could probably trust it to be right lol

edgy laurel
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holy shit we're doomed

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trusting an LLM which doesn't know fuck all if my hyper specific vbios update won't brick my GPU

vagrant tangle
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I mean I just wanted confirmation on the specific numbers and ID but true 😭

edgy laurel
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our kids are fucked

vagrant tangle
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I would trust an MSI support article less

low sorrel
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...

edgy laurel
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I would trust an MSI support article about 1000x more

vagrant tangle
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Nah they write some dumb stuff. If I had followed their m-flash tutorial exactly there is a likelihood I wouldve soft-bricked my pc

pure garnet
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you mean the rename and push a button one?

low sorrel
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i followed the m flash tutorial

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and it worked perfectly fine

edgy laurel
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pebkac

vagrant tangle
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Yeah but there are some conflicts with secure boot. Csm. Uefi. Gpt. Mbr.

pure garnet
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and jerry is definitely not up there in literacy

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so you know it works

low sorrel
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HEY

edgy laurel
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yeah, if jerry can figure it out, its good enough

pure garnet
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you know that mflash doesn’t involve secure boot or uefi legacy mode right

vagrant tangle
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I was just a bit paranoid cause it seems like on gigabyte and msi B550 there’s a lot of people with black screen after update

pure garnet
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it’s done by a separate mcu

vagrant tangle
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Well all I know is the comment section on that video is a nightmare lol

turbid locust
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@plucky finch hate to ping you specifically but it’s been like 35 mins lol

vagrant tangle
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Something about if the drive is MBR maybe. Dunno really. But their video mentioned nothing about it, didnt mention importance of fat32 either

turbid locust
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would hate to see someone actually fall for that shit

edgy laurel
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there are two of them

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holy shit 3 of them lol

snow holly
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We saw that

edgy laurel
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this one still

pure garnet
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they should add an option to warship where if like 5 people flag a message it gets removed

edgy laurel
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and this one

hoary hatch
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Mods sleeping fr

turbid locust
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Thank you guys

hoary hatch
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Mods letting Jesus take the wheel

pure garnet
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“i’ve been hacked lmfao”

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rip bro 💀

hoary hatch
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Oh shit they're awake

low sorrel
pure garnet
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might be the funniest interaction i’ve seen today

vagrant tangle
plucky finch
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Sorry about the delays, I’m currently on vacay and I’m playing board games with my friends

turbid locust
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No worries my goat

pure garnet
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are you winning

plucky finch
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No haha

random flame
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Ah, okay then.

low sorrel
edgy laurel
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Just give me the power Momo, i'm trustworthy

right guys.

right

random flame
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Why do I have a feeling there might be more to come and those three were just the beginning?

pure garnet
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i mean realistically yeah

low sorrel
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no give me the power

hoary hatch
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Give me the power momo
I'll ban everyone I don't like, trust

pure garnet
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do not give jerry the power bro

edgy laurel
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don't give jerry any power

low sorrel
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why

pure garnet
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he would lose 3 val games in a row then ban half of us

edgy laurel
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reasons

vagrant tangle
low sorrel
random flame
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Hmmmm...

Naww, like actually naww. Nevermind.

hoary hatch
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Guilty, you have to ban all the 1440p "2k" people

vagrant tangle
random flame
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I am too emotionally tired to mod a server at this size.

vagrant tangle
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I mean I already knew about fat32 but still

edgy laurel
pure garnet
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(mbr sometimes) + fat32 is required because that’s all the firmware that handles the flash can do

low sorrel
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oh wait i think m flash is just normal bios update

pure garnet
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1440p qd oled? straight to jail

low sorrel
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yeah you don't need fat32 for that

pure garnet
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the one in bios i just do off my nvme but the usb one is usually f32 only

vagrant tangle
edgy laurel
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At least with Gigabyte, Q-Flash is normal BIOS level updating. Q-Flash Plus is the powered off, USB stick and button method.

pure garnet
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and on gigabyte for some reason it HAS to be mbr formatted even in bios

edgy laurel
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asrock too

pure garnet
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worlds worst software company

pure garnet
low sorrel
pure garnet
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my z890 master did

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at least for in bios on both*

edgy laurel
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I thought my 10y/o Microcenter 8GB USB2 drive I use for BIOS flashing onlyl died

low sorrel
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low key i think my pc is currently mbr formatted

edgy laurel
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turns out I had somehow made it GPT

low sorrel
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doesn't really matter

edgy laurel
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back to MBR and all was well again

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at least with my X670E board

low sorrel
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usb drives age like fine wine for bios flashback

pure garnet
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the drive i use to install windows is some random 128gb usb i lost the covering for

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so it’s just an exposed pcb

edgy laurel
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I was going nuts. formatted it like 5 times, it seemed to work fine in normal use in FAT32. Then I caught some random reddit comment about ensureing it was MBR

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boom, flashback worked immediately

low sorrel
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last time i had use flashback i had to find an old usb 2 flash drive

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because it didn't play well with usb 3

edgy laurel
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yeah thats why I wanna keep it alive, the only working USB2 drive I have anymore

pure garnet
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flashback gets to be janky since it’s really a last resort thing

vapid forge
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I exchanged my AirPods Max usbc for the Sony wh-1000xm6 and I have no regrets

floral spear
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That Czech rumor ruined all hype for the steam deck lmfao

low sorrel
low sorrel
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so probably 800 usd

floral spear
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Valve is going to have to make an announcement on the Actual price 😭

pure garnet
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still i’d rather have a ps5 for half the price

low sorrel
pure garnet
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the steam cube hasn’t really interested me since they said it wouldn’t be subsided by steam the platform

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before ram prices i wouldn’t have paid more than $499 for one imo

edgy laurel
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holy shit guys I can't tell you how unattactive this is as a product I would want to own

low sorrel
random flame
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And they were using mobile parts for it too.

low sorrel
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they were doing that to lower your expectations

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and then they are going to drop the price heard around the world https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExaAYIKsDBI

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pure garnet
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i refuse to believe 720p would be fun at all

edgy laurel
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he's talking like some games with fine HUD elements are completely illegible

wraith steeple
pure garnet
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it’d be tac shooters only i think

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and even then, i can’t imagine its great

low sorrel
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Does refresh rate stop mattering

edgy laurel
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once we have the bandwidth and controllers to do at least 1440p 1000hz

fringe vigil
edgy laurel
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DP 2.1 can just do it with DSC at 8-bit

low sorrel
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Do these new monitors have gsync pulsar

edgy laurel
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fuck if i know, i haven't bothered paying attention to anything. michael is here, he's got it all memorized

shell void
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the only pulsar monitors that you can actually buy right now are 1440p 360Hz IPS

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Asus XG27AQNGV for example, it's $650

low sorrel
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Ew

shell void
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Pulsar is very cool tech but not cool enough for me to go back to 1440p LCD

low sorrel
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When gsync pulsar on 1000hz displays

edgy laurel
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Still not aware of any displays that make use of TB5's 120Gb/s unidirectional mode

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since a monitor is about the only relevant use case for a unidirectional mode

shell void
edgy laurel
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just wait, it'll be Apple.. but then again they like to make use of peripherals connected to their monitors

low sorrel
balmy panther
shell void
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it quadruples the perceived motion clarity when eyetracking a moving object

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quadruples relative to the current refresh rate

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at 360fps+ 360Hz you get the perceived eye-tracked motion clarity of a 1440Hz display

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backlight strobing is kind of useless in tactical shooters like CS2 and Valorant because youre not eyetracking fast moving objects

low sorrel
shell void
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neon makes me mald

hoary hatch
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Damn I just spent $35 on cheese

shell void
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optimal

fringe vigil
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what does biggicheese do now

wraith steeple
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He does talk in WCE every now and then

snow holly
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I need to route Ethernet

vagrant cargo
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Im curious what 32 inch 4k mini led or non oleds has aoc and ktc pr koruii shown?

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I know of maybe 2 to 3 32 inch mini led monitors what were at ces 2026 lack of booth tours with details about monitors from aoc or ktc is very odd

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Tbh though as off the moment im heavily leaning towards mkc m10 ultra

edgy laurel
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@shell void what was that great analogy you used when explaining how when focusing on the content, you don't notice the reflections in a glossy panel

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it was similar to something else and I can't recall what it was

shell void
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looking at the window versus looking through it

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i think some people have bird vision

hoary hatch
shell void
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you can focus on the surface of the mirror, or you can focus on the reflection in the mirror

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i thought everyone could do this but maybe not

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BIRDS

topaz veldt
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If I could not control ambient light in my office the glossy display would be horribly distracting

low sorrel
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TD wtf

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why does a 0.00$ sale need me to verify

indigo walrus
nimble pike
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Time to do silly things

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I have to get an RX 480 to fit in there

digital plume
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is slap an a2000 in that every day

nimble pike
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Anyone got advice for testing... suspicious motherboards?

topaz veldt
low sorrel
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well it mildly annoyed me

ashen socket
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Holy CRAP this might actually be the push it takes to get me to switch over to linux

I absolutely hate when windows wakes itself, installs updates and restarts after I put the system to sleep. Video editing projects i had open, incognito tabs, notepads that hadn't been saved yet, very specifically laid out charts, files, so on and so forth, so much stuff that has been disrupted because MY COMPUTER decided "it's time to install updates now". No. I hate that. I absolutely hate that! It's just like when you try to eject a flash drive and windows says "you can't eject that drive because a program is currently using it." No! Screw you! You stop that program from using the flash drive, because I'm about to remove it! This is not me asking for permission to remove my drive, this is me telling you that I'm about to remove the drive, so stop and programs from accessing it so that I can do so! I absolutely detest the fact that THE COMPUTER decides what's best for it to do and when. I feel like I'm not in control of my own system. I intentionally disabled a service that was responsible for windows updates, and it had the unintended side effect of disrupting automatic firefox tab backups from working so after my computer blue screened just now, it opened the last save from before I made that change which was over a week ago. Losing all my tabs from the last week was the price I paid for trying to stop the machine I built with my own two hands from thinking it knows better than me when it should do things I don't want it to do.

I'm getting so close to just saying screw it to the $140 license I paid to Microsoft back in 2019 for my official windows license. At least with linux, I know with 100% certainty that it will NEVER install anything without me telling it to, let alone it doing it both without asking me and doing it automatically at a time that it decides is best.

edgy laurel
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Never once in as long as I've been using Windows have updates woken up the PC, installed and rebooted it. Updates in general don't happen without my say so. This is a user problem.

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Then again I also can't say what happens if you go weeks without updating and just letting it nag.

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I install updates on patch tuesday when they come out and am never bothered when I don't expect it. Never. 20 years.

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Have to be doing something wrong.

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I'll never understand how people have those issues where windows updates when they didn't want it to. I'm not even sure how to make that happen.

ashen socket
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I put my computer to sleep at night, and when I come back in the morning, the computer is on and running, the uptime in task manager is only a few hours, and when I check the event viewer, it shows that a service having to do with windows updates woke the system and then the system restarted. That's pretty much it.

edgy laurel
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Did it say this before you put it to sleep?

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Was this on?

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anyway. switch to linux if you want and have fun with that

ashen socket
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I only open that menu when I'm trying to figure out why the system updated itself without me telling it to again, so I've got no clue whether it says it was up to date or not. And no, that box is not checked. I'm just tired of all this invasive stuff Microsoft keeps pushing with every patch. I just want to actually feel like I'm in control of my own system again, like it felt back in Win7. Hopefully Linux will be the key to that. It helps that most updates can be installed live, without even having to restart the system on Linux. My main issue is the fact that every time the computer has to reboot, it costs close to an hour of prep time getting all my stuff back into the state it was in before the restart, so having a system that can update without having to restart is gonna be a massive benefit.

topaz veldt
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@edgy laurel was a tough day today, but hopefully the last of the tough days for a while

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Had the services and all

merry stirrup
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unemployment finally hit me back up

hoary hatch
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Did they hit you with that

merry stirrup
frank zealot
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Might just have to try

keen wigeon
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What dis

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I’ve been low key farting this whole flight. Like just one long fart.

shell void
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my friend with a 13700K tested his 400GB P5800X in Server 2025 using that driver and it produced substantially higher results than my 9800X3D + 1.6TB P5800X + older windows version PC

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like 50% in random read

keen wigeon
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Oh nice I’ll have to look at that 💪

shell void
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though it's worth noting that some of that is from raptor lake just having higher storage performance than ryzen in any config

frank zealot
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Still awesome

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A free perf boost is worth it

shell void
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my 9800X3D + 1.6TB P5800X in unmodified Windows 21H2 on the left, his 400GB P5800X in Server 2025 on the right

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significant random performance improvement

frank zealot
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Those iops

shell void
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at least a few operations per second

frank zealot
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Just a few

topaz veldt
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Run 16-32k block size for more realistic and sobering metrics

slim pebble
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In Jay’s latest video he managed to bend a 12V2X6 pin. How do you even manage this? 😆

wraith steeple
topaz veldt
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Its Jay

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Now that I have the HD 600s and Arya Stealths back to back, the Aryas are so much brighter

slim pebble
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You’ve done it recently 5nail5, how hard is a new connector to solder on?

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That one is toast

digital plume
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cold take slap like 20 molex connectors on a gpu and it will work

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
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through hole is quite easy as we all probably know but working on a 10 layer 5090 pcb with like 18 pounds of copper isnt

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need quality tools and the right ones

merry stirrup
topaz veldt
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so i need to flow some low melt in there and then wick it out - I haven't been motivated enough to do it

merry stirrup
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yeah not fun

slim pebble
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Desoldering pump won’t work?

topaz veldt
merry stirrup
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otherwise it likely wont liquify at all

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mixing metals makes the melting point lower blah blah

hoary hatch
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wow the apple tv is completely broken software wise

#

i click the volume button once, and it keeps raising the volume to max/off

oak vector
#

Hmmmmm.
Just found out about an interesting budget short throw projector
Kinda tempting… despite already have a decent normal throw projector

#

Orrrr 4K projector
But. That’s harder to find for cheap lmao

pure garnet
turbid locust
#

My W-2 hit boys we up

#

Jan 26th hates to see me comin

brisk jolt
#

I “cyberbullied”/slandered someone’s 3080 till they bought a 5070ti KEKW

digital plume
#

damn

#

3080 still alright for 2026 no?

#

it's not even that old 😭

burnt socket
#

well not really

brisk jolt
#

the 1080ti glazers are insuferrable to talk to

burnt socket
#

real

brisk jolt
#

1080ti glazers when you say a 5050 is better than it:

#

1080ti glazers when you say 5090: You fuckin twat i dare you to repeat that?

oak vector
#

My whole city is covered in smoke rn from the bushfires

turbid locust
pure garnet
#

nah man u should totally spend $400 on an am4 cpu

#

also mac i return to z890 bench sunday

#

i got a cup on 7800x3d so im happy

brisk jolt
#

haswell is all u need\

pure garnet
#

does haswell even support x86v3

turbid locust
pure garnet
turbid locust
#

AMD ES chips that make their way into end users hands usually are identical to retail chips

#

they just got them before release

#

Intel is a different story

#

Intel ES chips can be scuffed as fuck lmao

pure garnet
#

it’s not that them using it specifically means much but i’m rapidly approaching a wall i cannot fund further

turbid locust
#

Fair

pure garnet
#

i don’t have the money to buy an apex/gene and go crazy

turbid locust
#

We bench for fun tho so like is what it is

pure garnet
#

so i got a decent showing and now ill try my other platform out

#

stable daily + machine to mess with is truly meta

turbid locust
#

It really is. Whenever I get my 9850X3D I’ll bench it for awhile and then it’s going in the HDV to daily

brisk jolt
#

pbo +100 bin incoming

pure garnet
#

i mean i’m ngl

turbid locust
#

I’d be surprised if it did any offset at all

pure garnet
#

i don’t expect +200 on a cpu with +400 stock

#

the 9800x3d is still voltage capped

#

afaik anyway

turbid locust
#

Like +200 on a 9850X3D would be Lisa Su bin

pure garnet
#

i think 9800x3d does 6.1 on ln2

#

so on ambient i wouldn’t expect 5.8 all core to be stable

turbid locust
#

Ya

#

It’s just a factory binned 9800X3D

pure garnet
#

nevermind 7.3 on ln2 apparently

#

still don’t believe 5.8 is normal/expected

turbid locust
#

We gonna find out

turbid locust
#

What’s the highest R23 all core freq

pure garnet
#

7.0

turbid locust
#

Yeah sounds more like it

pure garnet
oak vector
#

The smoke doing some funky stuff but damn it looks cool

#

Gotta love aus summer
Bushfires and more bushfires

pure garnet
turbid locust
#

No not even close

pure garnet
#

he has a super conservative 6000 tune with 1900fclk

#

which is odd.. but works

turbid locust
#

cold makes FCLK mad

pure garnet
#

ah

turbid locust
#

I was running like 3000MT/s with 1500fclk on my 5800x on LN2

#

For R23

pure garnet
#

assuming by cold you mean very cold

#

my fclk got more stable with the ac

turbid locust
pure garnet
#

how much effort is it to do ln2

#

gotta get out of rookie and jump straight to extreme fr

turbid locust
#

The prep is kinda annoying but once your board is prepped it’s not much trouble

turbid locust
#

well I think I was whatever category over rookie

pure garnet
#

i need to look at the rules for what counts as a chiller

ripe flicker
#

hello

turbid locust
pure garnet
#

oh so i’m still ambient then

#

i haven’t submitted anything but i’ve been using my ac as a faux cold weather occasionally

ripe flicker
#

so I have this problem I just got a new 1440p monitoe but for some reason my apps won't allow me to double click on them

pure garnet
#

still like 20-30c idle

turbid locust
#

But yeah most of LN2 is just prepping your board. Taking heatsinks off, coating it in LET, socket heater, thiccboi thermal pads on the back of the socket, etc.

#

But once that’s done it’s literally just mount LN2 pot and pour

green marsh
#

16GB DDR3L... yeah, good luck getting that to work on Intel

green marsh
oak vector
merry stirrup
turbid locust
oak vector
#

bro flop

modest mountain
#

new setup

manic sigil
#

Add light bar at the bottom

modest mountain
#

I dont have room genuinly, Ive got a stream deck and capture cards in there now

#

I think this is great use of freewill

turbid locust
#

nah wtf are you doing with 6 displays though I barely use my third monitor

modest mountain
#

Multitabling poker and multi accounting runescape

turbid locust
#

yikes

merry stirrup
turbid locust
modest mountain
#

205 on the smith machine tho

turbid locust
#

bro does not know ball

brisk jolt
#

peak scalping

craggy mist
merry stirrup
turbid locust
#

I think I’m gonna bin all my DDR5 in a spreadsheet and then go for some zen 5 gear 2 if I get time

ripe flicker
#

OMFGGG I LOVE 1440p so muchh

#

also props to frame gen lol

oak vector
slim pebble
brisk jolt
#

are we gonna talk about the video instead of gif

gentle urchin
mild sentinel
brisk jolt
mild sentinel
#

why not for collection card 🤓

oak vector
lone scarab
#

ssd prices gon wid

#

will they ever come down?

vivid kiln
lone scarab
#

my frist ever bad financial decision of not buying ssd i took couple of months ago 🥀

#

and now i need one

vivid kiln
#

If it makes you feel better, we used to pay SIGNIFICANTLY more for them

vivid kiln
lone scarab
#

but now its not new

flat bane
#

Ssd

lone scarab
#

fuck ai

oak vector
#

I wish I bought a 2 tb ssd a couple months back dammit

oak vector
#

I’m actually kicking myself

lone scarab
#

my laptop has 1 free slot for 2230 but i guess even if i had bought 2tb 2280 i could replace the current one

#

who could have seen this coming

vivid kiln
lone scarab
brisk jolt
lone scarab
#

imagining

vivid kiln
# lone scarab why

Because consumer electronics have only been stupid cheap in the 2010s. This is why Linus gets so frustrated with the entitlement during wan show. Cheap PC parts were a result of forced labor in China. There was going to be an eventual market correction.

It just happened to come via AI and now we have garbage AND forced labor.

lone scarab
#

deleting dcs will free up space

#

will do that in some days

#

and i got another 500 gb ssd

#

will do the job for now

#

also hdd prices didnt go up as much

vivid kiln
lone scarab
#

i have never in my life ever used a fucking hdd

vivid kiln
lone scarab
#

the best i can do is use it to store stuff that i rearely need

#

ik its slow

lone scarab
#

with windows 11

#

hdd was the boot device btw

oak vector
brisk jolt
oak vector
#

I’ve used multiple

#

I cannot wait to enter the military I’m kinda sick of my life rn lmao

lone scarab
oak vector
#

I like my life.
But I want it to have meaning besides going to school

oak vector
#

School and other personal affairs I need to get squared away lol

lone scarab
#

school is boring

heavy gulch
green marsh
# heavy gulch
  1. motherboard has headers
  2. you can always run them at max with molex or SATA to pwm fan adapteres
  3. fan controller is also an option
green marsh
#

another is between the CMOS battery and the first PCIe slot

heavy gulch
#

Yeah, but that’s only 2, I need to plug in 4 fans

green marsh
#

it's called PWM fan splitter

heavy gulch
#

Thanks youu.

#

I’ll order this then.

green marsh
#

there are also ones which look like this

heavy gulch
#

the pwn splitter looks easier haha

green marsh
#

but in the end, they are all the same (the second one takes power from SATA instead of the header, thus can run more fans from single fan header)

heavy gulch
#

I’ll go with the pwm splitter, thank you very much ❤️

green marsh
#

for example, yes

arctic bronze
green marsh
arctic bronze
green marsh
#

btw it's kinda funny how my N100 router uses more power idling than my new fridge. 0.27 vs 0.15 kWh today (15 and half hours)

oak vector
#

Lmfao what

#

That’s funny

#

I guess fridges aren’t super complex, well don’t have to be

green marsh
# oak vector Lmfao what

the N100 mini PC as router uses ~18-19W continously. the fridge is new and very low power, so it uses ~25W for 18-20 minutes and then off for 30 minutes. So on average it is much less

#

meanwhile the router

green marsh
#

to be fair, the biggest improvement over my old dying one is noise. The old one had a very loud, dying compressor. This one i can barely hear when active

oak vector
oak vector
green marsh
oak vector
#

Australia tends to benefit from other countries benefiting haha

topaz veldt
#

Hi

oak vector
#

How you doin

brave panther
#

350w = arc raiders time

green marsh
#

(at night it uses more power now because it is transcoding stuff, otherwise it would be ~90W at night)

brave panther
#

i am installing 9070xt next week, i wonder how power hungry it will be then

brave panther
copper tiger
#

hello i have a concern that my 5080 isnt performing how it should now how can i asure that i am right or make sure that the gou is working exactly how it should

fickle narwhal
#

Run a benchmark and compare scores with other 5080

copper tiger
turbid locust
#

Do you happen to have a 5070Ti instead

pure garnet
#

seems like it

turbid locust
#

ROPS CHECK

topaz veldt
#

I want a 5070 Ti

brave panther
past charm
#

Why does does my pc keep forcing me into bios

pure garnet
#

it’s gonna blow

modest mountain
#

Back in the day I was always told to pull the cmos battery

#

having not assembled a pc in years I dont kno if thats still valid

#

will reset your bios, you may need to let it sit for a bit after as there may still be charge in the capacitors

halcyon hedge
pure garnet
#

it’s fine

topaz veldt
#

whats up all

turbid locust
topaz veldt
turbid locust
#

chillin. At a dealership with a friend buying a car actually lol

topaz veldt
#

Oh nice what're they buying

vestal granite
#

a car

#

ever since moving here i now understand why people dont like cyclists i thought they just meant bicyclists but no its like a thing the cyclists are not friendly

#

i wouldnt go so far as to say its like ecoterrorism but its like emotional terrorism cause they arent kind people

topaz veldt
fringe vigil
topaz veldt
#

Have you played it @fringe vigil

fringe vigil
#

ofc

digital plume
topaz veldt
arctic bronze
topaz veldt
turbid locust
#

Very nice spec

topaz veldt
#

no blackwing no thanks

turbid locust
#

Turbo 4 banger actually

turbid locust
topaz veldt
#

no V!?

turbid locust
#

Nah he didn’t want it

topaz veldt
#

@turbid locust I spent $38k today

turbid locust
#

I agree but it makes sense for him lol. Besides I drove it and it’s got plenty pep tbh

turbid locust
topaz veldt
turbid locust
#

oof

steel stream
topaz veldt
turbid locust
#

but yeah it’s a really cool spec and a nice green color. Cool asf ngl. I’ll send a pic later

#

Typhoon metallic

steel stream
turbid locust
#

it’s like an Isle of Man green if it were a BMW

topaz veldt
topaz veldt
#

less loud

turbid locust
#

It looks better in person

topaz veldt
#

I looked at some G80 isle greens and its too bright

topaz veldt
#

@turbid locust

turbid locust
#

Yep!

fringe vigil
topaz veldt
#

he is not good

fringe vigil
#

lool

frank zealot
#

"Probably dead cpu. 200 bux. I know what I got!"

shell void
#

"it's dead and i want to reimburse the 5700 that i had to replace it with by selling you this dead cpu"

young void
#

XD

topaz veldt
#

Most annoying thing about using HD 600 and Arya Stelath is that HD 600 are 300 Ohms and Stealths are 32 Ohms... volume settings

frank zealot
shell void
#

what a strange case

#

graphics card shroud

frank zealot
#

#NobodyAskedForThis

shell void
#

and then the motherboard vrm and system memory are locked in a glass box with no airflow XD

#

phanteks has fallen off so hard

frank zealot
#

That dumbassery is Phanteks?!

shell void
#

unfortunately

frank zealot
#

Wtf

shell void
#

i was a phanteks shill in the 2010s so it hurts to see them having fallen off so hard in the last 6 years

frank zealot
#

I mean, there's a good chance that this never leaves the show floor

#

This is duuuuumb

shell void
#

i havent liked any of the cases that theyve launched in years

frank zealot
#

The G360 (?) Was a great sub-100$ case

#

But that was 4 or 5 years ago now?

shell void
#

Cyberpower wants to be HAVN, but this is a decent looking case

shell void
frank zealot
#

It was good, but yeah, not exciting

#

Have they even released anything interesting in the last 3 years?

shell void
#

Phanteks was so cool in this era

turbid locust
#

@topaz veldt

frank zealot
#

Two tone color shift paint

shell void
shell void
white thunder
#

yo any of yall know how to remove a front panel for a tower?

topaz veldt
#

lol

white thunder
#

i cant find the screws for mine idk

frank zealot
frank zealot
white thunder
topaz veldt
#

@edgy laurel @steel stream @low sorrel WTF is up with this game rofl

white thunder
#

its.from.a.prebuilt ibuyppwer idk the specific tower

white thunder
#

i dont wanna break it so im sorta being conservative

frank zealot
topaz veldt
#

we cannot help you

#

you have provided no information

white thunder
#

hold on

#

lemme post a.pic here

frank zealot
#

I'm going to laugh when the inevitable answer is "pull"

white thunder
#

or wait lemme ping yall there if thats fine

white thunder
#

uhh

green marsh
#

also LOL, X99E-WS 6900K 4x4GB RAM for 300 euros 😄

topaz veldt
#

but PCIe

green marsh
#

sure, but the CPU and RAM doesn't make it worth 300 euros

#

another with X299-A II + 10900X (no RAM). Also with that stupid ASUS M.2 slot design

#

this one is 'only' 240 euros

topaz veldt
#

I'd pay $1000

green marsh
#

now this is somewhat better for 400 euros

#

GIGABYTE MZ31‑AR0 (Rev. 1.x) + AMD EPYC 7551

topaz veldt
#

meh

green marsh
#

i mean compared to previous 2 items i posted

topaz veldt
#

its all e-waste brother

green marsh
#

no, this is ewaste 😄

#

guy is trying to sell the motherboard, unused , unopened... for 465 euros

topaz veldt
#

I need new PC shit

pure garnet
#

yeah markets mad boring rn

topaz veldt
#

for serious

pure garnet
#

we need new cpus and gpus

topaz veldt
#

I got my bonus coming in 10 days

#

And there's nothing to spend it on

green marsh
topaz veldt
#

old shit

green marsh
#

not the realtek

topaz veldt
#

but realtek dafuq

green marsh
topaz veldt
#

i know, but its realtek

green marsh
#

has ASPM, <2W power usage, probably even has WoL

topaz veldt
#

but realtek

#

the drivers will crash ever 120 secs

green marsh
#

ASPM is an issue with most affordable 10Gbe NICs, WoL is an issue with every intel 10Gbe NIC (except one model)...

green marsh
topaz veldt
shell void
#

these wouldve been so cool if memory pricing didnt quadruple

topaz veldt
#

Yes the driver that's been prevalent for 25 years has issues but the shitty shoebox driver is great smilespin 🙃

green marsh
vale gull
green marsh
pure garnet
shell void
#

heck yeah it is

#

128GB quad rank hynix cudimms

pure garnet
#

i think i just heard the ryzen memory controller pop and smoke

green marsh
#

like this one

shell void
#

peak

green marsh
#

nah, in DDR2 era Mushkin was the peak

#

they had some crazy designs 😄

topaz veldt
#

nah OCZ was peak

south shuttle
green marsh
south shuttle
#

Idk

#

doesn't sound that good

green marsh
#

there are two versions, one with PCIe 3.0 x2 and one with PCIe 4.0 x1 interface, some with RJ45, some with SFP interface

green marsh
south shuttle
green marsh
fervent chasm
#

are the ram prices never gonna drop

pure garnet
#

vid requests on my 13700k are already below 1.35v @merry stirrup

#

oh wait i might’ve had locked to 5.0 max

white thunder
#

yo how do u remove a cpu block off of cpu properly? mine is super stuck to cpu

steel stream
#

twist

#

don't pull

white thunder
#

it barely even twists

pure garnet
#

hair dryer

white thunder
#

i dont got one

pure garnet
#

boot the pc back up and let it warm up then

white thunder
topaz veldt
pure garnet
#

pick it up and move it then

#

we gotta think this one over

fervent chasm
pure garnet
#

if the paste is cold and stuck, it must warm up

white thunder
#

hmm

#

actuslly i may have an old hairdryer..

#

hold on

white thunder
pure garnet
#

yeah

white thunder
#

its safe to or do i havr to be careful

steel stream
#

it might get hot or smth

fervent chasm
#

It will get hot, if it gets too hot it trips a fail safe

#

You’ll be fine

white thunder
#

i havr disconnected thr radiator fyi

topaz veldt
#

If you're selling consumer RAM you've lost the narrative

pure garnet
#

all you’re doing is blowing some hot air at it for like 15 seconds to pop the cooler off

fervent chasm
pure garnet
#

6800?

fervent chasm
#

Yes 6800

pure garnet
#

bin of despair

fervent chasm
#

They’re good chips iirc

white thunder
#

damn did it for 20 seconds it aint budging

fervent chasm
#

Floppa said it was a good one I think

white thunder
#

more time ig

pure garnet
#

did you unscrew the cooler

white thunder
#

yes

steel stream
fervent chasm
pure garnet
#

i’ve ran ycruncher on the new work pc and i miss avx512

#

shit was like 32 seconds for 1b

fervent chasm
#

I got 2 of these F5-6800J3446F48GX2-RS5K

#

Speaking of thanks for reminding me I need to move everything to the new case

white thunder
#

yeah idk what to do, its still not budging

#

i cant aim the hairdryer under cause its too big

pure garnet
#

boot up the pc then

fervent chasm
#

Literally just run it so the paste gets goopy

white thunder
#

thr radiator isnt connected tho

pure garnet
#

so what

#

it’s not gonna be on for an hour

white thunder
#

do i just plug the PSU in and thsts it?

fervent chasm
#

Wait hold on, where is the pump

#

It’s an AIO?

pure garnet
white thunder
#

yeah aio

pure garnet
#

he pulled the radiator but can’t get the block off

white thunder
#

all fans are disconnected

fervent chasm
#

Literally just run it hot

white thunder
#

for rad

fervent chasm
#

If the cpu gets too hot the pc automatically shuts off you have literally nothing to worry about

white thunder
#

so do i just plug the PSU in?

fervent chasm
#

Whatever you need to turn on the pc

white thunder
#

uhh ill try ig

#

praying i dont break something

fervent chasm
#

The worse thing that I’ve ever done was do a bios update and forget the cpu cooler installation

#

It shut itself off after getting too hot mid update lol

#

Bricked the board

white thunder
#

alright its on

#

how long does this take

fervent chasm
#

just keep on trying to separate but not too hard

white thunder
#

oh it already shut off

fervent chasm
#

Bruh

white thunder
#

??

#

idk it went off within like 15 seconds

fervent chasm
#

did you try to remove the block

white thunder
#

no

#

its still stuck

fervent chasm
#

Do it again and just pull not too hard while it’s on

#

I don’t want you ripping out the socket like someone else did before

white thunder
#

yeah

fervent chasm
#

If that doesn’t work just find a hair dryer

#

Borrow one from someone idk

white thunder
#

i just used one

#

it didnt work either

fervent chasm
#

Maybe the paste is so crusted that it doesn’t get goopy?

white thunder
#

off again

#

lasted about a min

#

still stuck bro wtf

fervent chasm
#

This is out of my understanding now, can someone take over

#

Did you try a YouTube video

pure garnet
#

might need some elbow grease at this point

white thunder
#

they all said twist then pull gently

brave panther
#

lol someone used thermal adheasive instead of a paste

white thunder
#

Oh w8 i got it

#

used the nails as a lever

fervent chasm
#

There you go

pure garnet
fervent chasm
#

I bet the heat helped

white thunder
#

yeah it did

#

i think

#

so now what

wise bear
#

watch a video

white thunder
#

al the vids.on this new aio dont show the case install

wise bear
#

then read the manual

brave panther
wise bear
#

poggers

brave panther
#

no way they dispatched it after 1.5 months

white thunder
#

lemme see...

#

wait

#

do i gotta put a new backplate on?

#

someone told me.i didnt have to

#

uhhh manual i think wants me.to mount radiator first?

fringe vigil
white thunder
#

nope im stuck

#

the video is for AMD not intel

#

and idk ehat manual wants me to do

fringe vigil
#

not you

white thunder
#

o

turbid locust
toxic grotto
#

how much of that is upscaled and generated frames though

fallow crown
#

I found a homeserver containing 32gb x 4 ddr4 2400mhz for $300. I'm not buying it, but is that worth it just for the ram? It's ddr4 and slow but should still be worth a lot no?

devout ridge
topaz veldt
fallow crown
#

128gb

devout ridge
turbid locust
#

Either way why does it matter? It’s a feature of the hardware to be used.

toxic grotto
turbid locust
#

“We ran Cyberpunk 2077 at native 1080p at ultra settings with RT reflections and shadows turned on along with chromatic aberration, vignetting and film grain turned off”

So yeah no upscaling and whatnot

wraith steeple
toxic grotto
steel stream
vestal granite
#

oh wait no that's frame time

#

yeah that sucks not even 27ms, anything above 27ms is unbearable

turbid locust
toxic grotto
#

i primarily play 1440

turbid locust
#

checks out

vestal granite
#

well then of course upscaling looks bad

turbid locust
#

what gpu

vestal granite
#

you're rendering at like 600 pixels when you upscale to 1440p

turbid locust
toxic grotto
#

3070

turbid locust
#

hmmm

#

DLSS Transformer on its highest quality setting should be acceptable even at 1440p but

toxic grotto
#

ive also never seen it give much of a benefit in the games i play, framerates hardly increase but quality decreases quite a lot. Its just a personal thing

fervent chasm
#

I need ram

#

That ram is probably worth more than $300

toxic grotto
#

i also agree with akn where frame gen is the real killer when it comes to benchmarks but there needs to be like - like comparisons

turbid locust
#

I think as long as it’s clearly stated I have no issue

low sorrel
#

@steel stream @topaz veldt they will never find the body

steel stream
turbid locust
fallow crown
fervent chasm
fallow crown
#

I'm guessing most people here aren't from Norway

fervent chasm
#

Probably not

steel stream
turbid locust
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I deadass use balanced a lot so

fervent chasm
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This a good price?

turbid locust
fervent chasm
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Seems like it, no wonder it sold so fast

fallow crown
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Yes excellent price

fervent chasm
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fbmp listing

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Oh I see

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Nvm it was a troll post lol

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I didn’t read the comments

fallow crown
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we have fbmb here too, but It's mabye 2% real listings

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All others are scams. And obvious ones too

fervent chasm
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There’s a lot of real ones if you’re checking local

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If you’re in groups, idk

fallow crown
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Not in Norway. It's mostly scams

pallid marsh
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I wouldn't buy a used Intel 13/14th cpu

fervent chasm
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That sucks

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I kinda wish I never sold my 14900ks

fallow crown
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And they all have a sketchy link in the description were they claim they purchased it from.

fervent chasm
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That’s crazy

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This is the weird pc I was taking about a few days back

fallow crown
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Does it come with the figure?

fervent chasm
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I’m not asking lol

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I don’t wanna know what has touched it either

fallow crown
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Gaming PC on AM4- RTX30805600x57032GB1000WWIN11 for $100

lean canyon
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Why are white tuf 5070 tis sold out everywhere

brave panther
regal wigeon
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anyone know what overlay this is? it shows up when I press any button and I have everything closed but steam

arctic bronze
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Turn it off bc it hurts ur fps badly

regal wigeon
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I didnt even know steam had an overlay

edgy laurel
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and a game recording and clipping feature miles ahead of Nvidia and AMD

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the Steam overlay does not hurt your FPS badly

fallow crown
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Do clipping softwares have much inpact on FPS?

edgy laurel
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even if GPU/hardware based

fallow crown
edgy laurel
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what does a lot mean. it will vary depending on your hardware, the game and the settings you're using

fallow crown
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I just don't want it to be noticable in any games

edgy laurel
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i'm not giving specifics because thats impossible to do for every scenario

fervent chasm
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I just found an old listing I was gonna buy

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8 64gb dimms for $40 each

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I sold so hard

edgy laurel
fallow crown
fervent chasm
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You said you get them way cheaper

teal orbit
edgy laurel
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you can tell that was made by someone who has no idea what they're doing

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the options are apples and oranges

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IPS is a variant of LCD, not a type of panel on its own. TFT is a tech used in all LCD's, hell even in some AMOLED phont screens

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guy's clueless whoever made that

fallow crown
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IPS waveboye

wise bear
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Irritable pp syndrome

pure garnet
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can we ban led headlights

teal orbit
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TFT headlights please

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For the matrix headlights thing

pure garnet
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ford f150 owners explaining how they need the blindotron package to get home safely (the rest of the highway is full blind)

teal orbit
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well if everyone can't see, then no one can't see

topaz veldt
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yawn

oak vector
burnt socket
fickle narwhal
low sorrel
pallid marsh
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We should ban oem headlights that don't have easily replaceable bulbs

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Like the sealed all in one units

topaz veldt
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my son is funny: "Dad, I thought the black computer was the best why is the white computer turned on?"

fringe vigil
topaz veldt
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this is sick