#tech-chat-2

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gentle gale
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good to know. glad i skipped it

low sorrel
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wait was my hdr borked my last windows install?

steel stream
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looks like a shitty hoverboard

low sorrel
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the hdr calibration tool just gave me a compeletely different nit figure then last time

slim pebble
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It doesn’t compare even a little with the original Aorus. I think the big change is that it can fit into a smaller space

steel stream
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nah man what do you mean 7% is totally worth it

turbid locust
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real

steel stream
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So Mac when are you buying one

turbid locust
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launch

mild sentinel
steel stream
turbid locust
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no

steel stream
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oh

turbid locust
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I will somehow still get a dogshit IMC tho

steel stream
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that's just life

low sorrel
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how old of a driver do you think windows auto installed any bets?

brisk jolt
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he gon receive a 9850x3d sample so bad it makes my previous 9800x3d look like absolute godbin

heavy spire
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Binned for 6000 1.3vsoc

turbid locust
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šŸ’Æ

steel stream
mild sentinel
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time to close the stream sadlinus no 9850x3d mentioned sadlinus

brisk jolt
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you forgot the CL36

steel stream
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blow my shit smooth off

hoary hatch
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snek

turbid locust
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Donald Trump mentioned before a Ryzen desktop cpu

brisk jolt
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I imagine theres a guy out there with a godforsakened bin that only does 6000 at 1.3 vsoc and they wonder why EXPO doesnt work for them

pure garnet
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did they do price

turbid locust
turbid locust
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If I get a chip that can’t do 6000 I will personally explode AMD HQ

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(NSA that’s a joke btw)

brisk jolt
turbid locust
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lol nice

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ā€œAIā€ 4 times in one sentence there I think

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I swear to god iPhone auto correct might be the dumbest shit on the planet

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I typed ā€œin one sentenceā€ and it corrected it to ā€œinconsistencyā€

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are we fucking stupid

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iOS 26 is actually a piece of shit I swear to god

topaz veldt
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So.... Like 0-1% in the shit I play

turbid locust
opal jasper
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was browsing my local fb marketplace

someone didnt look up recent ram prices

brisk jolt
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Its basically 0% from like 1080p high settings tbh

shell void
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hardware unboxed

opal jasper
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what in the world is this banger of a description of a listing

edgy laurel
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so y'all just go from caring about +1% benchmark improvements when it suits you or.. how does that work

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this kinda minor bump thing seems like exactly what you'd want if Benchmate is your game of choice

turbid locust
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I was more interested in the unconfirmed improved IMC rumors that probably aren’t real lol

brisk jolt
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increase boost clock by like 400mhz and increase the price by $100

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sounds bout right

opal jasper
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I also like on the top right they are using intel as the comparison point instead of each other because the uplift is minimal lol

turbid locust
edgy laurel
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cheaper now?

turbid locust
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basically the same price if rumors are to be believed

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so like why not

opal jasper
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but then 9800x3d price will drop a bit i assume?

turbid locust
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Doubt it

brisk jolt
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question is did they also test their 285K at 6000 C30 KEKW

brisk jolt
low sorrel
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So it's a 9800XT3d

merry stirrup
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yes

turbid locust
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I said it’s a 9800X3DKS

opal jasper
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i mean if they replace 9800x3d with 9850 at the same price point it makes sense

merry stirrup
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they’re not doing that

brisk jolt
turbid locust
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Yeah doubt they binned IMCs they’ve never done that

opal jasper
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if they are gonna sell it at a higher price point i personally dont really see the point if the difference is not like 20-50 dollars

turbid locust
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There’s 9950X3Ds that can’t do 6200

merry stirrup
low sorrel
turbid locust
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They wouldn’t

gentle gale
brisk jolt
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I mean, I have mine at like 1.28vsoc 6200 C26 but like its just not impressive at all

gentle gale
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why test any higher KEKW

turbid locust
ripe needle
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Hi

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May I speak?

turbid locust
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No

brisk jolt
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struck them like lightning

turbid locust
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It says uploaded an hour ago and he starts with the ā€œAMDs keynote just finishedā€ and it just finished like 3 mins ago

opal jasper
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either way, while the news doesnt excite me at least it is some news that comes with some amount of performance uplifts

brisk jolt
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he hit that valorant deadzone and prefired that video no cap

opal jasper
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and amd stock probably goes up

edgy laurel
brisk jolt
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never underestimate amd’s ability to shoot themselves in the foot

ripe needle
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Brian Griffin

opal jasper
turbid locust
opal jasper
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the thing is intel is doing so bad that i really dont think there is a way to fuck up

brisk jolt
ripe needle
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Ai guys am I right

brisk jolt
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i think amd already showed their zen 6 sample no? the cores are closer to the IO die

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for servers

turbid locust
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So I think the B850Mpower was unironically a Gene type launch

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It’s still OOS and not even listed anywhere but MSI’s store and EBay lmao

turbid locust
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I mean I’m definitely glad I grabbed one

topaz veldt
turbid locust
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Hasn’t been out long enough to see any real results from it

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There’s people benching 8400 on it though

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Not much else you can ask for

topaz veldt
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how much was it

proud summit
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Damn, just received an open box MSI X870E Tomahawk for 252 CAD.
Been stress testing it for a few hours, no problems, everything seems brand new.
Might have scored a jackpot.

Maybe I should buy the 9850X3D just for the lolz.

turbid locust
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MSI store says $229 now but

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It was arguably the best AM5 board for the money for tuners

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I was benching 9600-10000MT/s dual channel on it with my 8500G over the weekend

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This was before I touched timings and FCLK but yeah.

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those voltages are a lie btw

topaz veldt
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I am not as impressed with those types of figures just because of monolithic hailmary stuffs

turbid locust
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Fair. I just need a good enough gear 2 zen 5 chip to do some proper stuff

topaz veldt
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I know its to "prove the board" but like... I dunno, not convinced it means much with those APUs

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yah

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I might take my lil SFF outside and see what it does

turbid locust
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I could probably get 8300 bench stable on my 9600x, maybe 8200 daily stable

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I gotta learn how to tune resistantances

turbid locust
topaz veldt
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so prob just need some voltages

turbid locust
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that and probably resistances

topaz veldt
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Dunno

turbid locust
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Try raising VDDP

topaz veldt
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it is

turbid locust
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afaik it scales until it doesn’t post

topaz veldt
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1.1v

turbid locust
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try 1.15v

topaz veldt
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I'll try it

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I am dalying 8000 CL36 on it

turbid locust
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according to BZ it scales until it doesn’t post and helps with gear 2 quite a bit

topaz veldt
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its like 62ns latency in aida

turbid locust
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you can also slightly lower VDD MISC

topaz veldt
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its supposed to be my plex server lol

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but i've been gaming like crazy on it because its so cute

turbid locust
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iirc 0.9v made my 7700x accept 7800 a little bit better

hoary hatch
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We haven't seen laptop boy in a while

topaz veldt
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lol

turbid locust
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I wanna do an ITX build one day but

topaz veldt
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not gonna lie its kind of annoying

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but its cool once done

turbid locust
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Yeah. I think A3 size is the perfect size

calm socket
turbid locust
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Once I get this 9850X3D and play with it for awhile, it’s going in the HDV on a mild ram tune, and then into my A3.

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Going back to A3 for daily

fervent chasm
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wdym keyboard based, arent the majority of PCs used with keyboards?

turbid locust
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Although I haven’t touched that board in eons, some bios updates might’ve made it better

low sorrel
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im actually stupid

calm socket
low sorrel
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"why do my headphones sound so weird today"

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i didn't fucking have them plugged in all the way

turbid locust
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checks out for you

calm socket
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I'd predicted a little while ago—lord if I can find the conversation where I said it now—that keyboard-based PCs might eventually make a comeback. Raspberry Pi's been dabbling in the idea the past few years, but I'm talking full fat desktop-grade hardware here.

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It just makes sense as a form-factor.

topaz veldt
low sorrel
topaz veldt
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and the jack was like 2mm out

low sorrel
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yep

turbid locust
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I need to test fit and see if I’m gonna be able to get away with a 360mm AIO in the A3 with my 5090

topaz veldt
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air baby

turbid locust
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Air is loud

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and blocks potential ram fan

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I simultaneously do not want to buy another AIO so

topaz veldt
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Nah my GPU is way louder than my CPU cooler

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NH-D15 G2 life

turbid locust
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It’s not like X3D pulls much gaming anyway

topaz veldt
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yah

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thats why i didn't bother with an AIO

turbid locust
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I do have a PA120 Mini

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I mounts sideways though

calm socket
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Damn, I'd definitely never be able to find it now, then...

low sorrel
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oh pog time to update my drivers

turbid locust
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Is Arctic’s fan hub ok?

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can’t really matter much can it?

low sorrel
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it's a fan hub

turbid locust
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Yeah

topaz veldt
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If you're not running T30s in performance mode any fan hub is fine

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I blew the transistors in my Corsair Commander Pro with T30s

turbid locust
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lol bro

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I’d be running like four Silent Wings 3’s at like 30-40%

topaz veldt
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@low sorrel how do you see your last few matches in Arc

low sorrel
topaz veldt
turbid locust
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lol

topaz veldt
turbid locust
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Bro loves the blue gate

topaz veldt
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loot is good there

turbid locust
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goop

topaz veldt
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whoops

low sorrel
low sorrel
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i've only been getting into pvp recently

low sorrel
topaz veldt
turbid locust
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Does GeForce now have a free trial

low sorrel
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you on arc rn?

topaz veldt
low sorrel
topaz veldt
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there is a free tier, but also if you buy ultimate and cancel it just pro-rates it

turbid locust
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hmmmm

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do you have to download an app or is it browser or whatever

topaz veldt
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app

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its basically VDI

turbid locust
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hmmmm I’ll have to see if my work laptop will let me do it

low sorrel
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@topaz veldt wanna run some arc raiders?

turbid locust
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just trying to pre plan how I’m gonna game on this work trip soon lol

blazing ivy
topaz veldt
low sorrel
topaz veldt
low sorrel
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i fucking hate msi afterburner why does it always push norton on me

topaz veldt
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bro

low sorrel
topaz veldt
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trying to exfil i had to kill like 4 -5 dudes one after the other lol

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that was too stressful lol

low sorrel
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Gimme a moment I gotta do something rq

ripe needle
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Snail

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Can you play arc raiders with me

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I wanna play with the adults

topaz veldt
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I am actually going to turn in ffor the night its late

topaz veldt
ripe needle
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GG

topaz veldt
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I need to do something about this

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The one dude I knocked out had 12 batteries

turbid locust
topaz veldt
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they knew they'd lose people

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6X MFG - now I can finally play

turbid locust
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Dynamic MFG seems interesting

topaz veldt
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yah could be

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like VRR of MFG

low sorrel
turbid locust
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2nd Gen Transformer looks great from the video

topaz veldt
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VRR + DMPG its like playing CS2 drunk with 20' long arms

turbid locust
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lol

low sorrel
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That the 6x frame gen was used to show 4k 240hz in the video

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And that's a base frame rate of 40 fps

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@topaz veldt invite me

turbid locust
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It was 4K240 PT

topaz veldt
low sorrel
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damn'

topaz veldt
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sorry duder, 130am here

turbid locust
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yeah I have to be up at 7:30 lmao

topaz veldt
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this is me rn

turbid locust
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Companies lie

low sorrel
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4.5 looks alot better on my 3060

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but the framerate drops like a brick

turbid locust
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Jerry it’s not even out

low sorrel
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it is

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you gotta select the beta driver

turbid locust
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yeah fuck all that

turbid locust
blazing ivy
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games look crazy sharp and clear with model M

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and you need the beta nvidia app which you can select in the nivia app options

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its it then will push a update

low sorrel
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but goes from 70 to 50

turbid locust
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DLSS should never drop your framerate

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sounds like it’s literally broken

low sorrel
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no it compared to normal transformer

turbid locust
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what cpu what game

low sorrel
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5800x arc raiders

turbid locust
blazing ivy
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its working with a larger dataset vs normal DLSS4 so its more compute

turbid locust
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Jerry is on a 3060

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Jerry what’s ur vram lookin like lmao

low sorrel
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8gb

turbid locust
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You’re maxing it?

low sorrel
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not even close

turbid locust
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hmm

low sorrel
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still have like 5gb left

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sounds like atleast the beta release might be ass on 30 series?

turbid locust
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I think it’s kinda fucked up that they made 8GB cards capable of frame gen though lol

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Framegen eats vram

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I maxed out a 5070Ti with path tracing and MFG on Indiana Jones lol

low sorrel
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honestly... it does look better on ultra performance

blazing ivy
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with the new DLSS 4.5 you can easly move from Quality to balanced, Balanced to performance and so on its def a upgrade

low sorrel
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then transformer

turbid locust
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At 1440p I wouldn’t go lower than Balanced personally

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I don’t like going lower than Balanced even at 4K

blazing ivy
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heck 720p upscaled to 4k looks much better now vs dlss4 and dlss4 was so much better then CNN dlss3 at the same thing

turbid locust
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I never noticed anything really anyway

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The moment I start actually playing the game the small artifacting and ghosting disappears

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It’s only something I notice when I’m pixel peeping lmao

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I will try it soon though. Maybe wait for official release depending on how long it takes.

blazing ivy
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jan 13th is offical release but its released now for beta

turbid locust
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meh I can wait lol

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I’ve decided I’m finally going to do a proper 2077 playthrough and I think I wanna do it path traced lol

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So maybe I wait for 4.5 and DMFG

pure garnet
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9850x3d waiting room

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i need that 3% so bad

turbid locust
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sell your 9800X3D now

pure garnet
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there’s no chance in hell i’m actually buying one

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i already have a sample i’m happy with

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i kinda want an apex but i know it’s turbo dumb so

turbid locust
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I am and I’m probably going to keep it regardless of silicon

pure garnet
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yeah but i already did the whole ā€œbuy chip for gear 1 retirementā€

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i just got genuinely lucky

turbid locust
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That’s basically what I’m going to do with it once I get done playing with it

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because of course we gotta bench and max it out first yk

pure garnet
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unless this cpu was a 1.3v 6000 sample i wasn’t returning it

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if it only did 6000 at a sane vsoc i would’ve kept it

turbid locust
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I would like for it to do 6400 but atp I’ll take whatever I can get. I’m not having an ounce of hope anymore lol.

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I think I’d rather have decent FCLK tho idk

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So far my 9600x does 2200 and my 9800X3D booted 2233

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My first 9800X3D maxed at like 2133 though unfortunately

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But I don’t remember if I even tested for max FCLK

pure garnet
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my first one was karhuing at 1.3v 6400 but i returned it bc the tomahawk was the actual issue

turbid locust
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That cpu was like right on the edge of stability at 1.3vsoc 6400

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Iirc that chip could do 6400 but only if my FCLK was at like 2033 lmao

pure garnet
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my final guess is something broke with acpi on that board

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because it’s stable outside of sleep on windows for the most part

turbid locust
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If I can get a lazy >=8000 tune going with relatively low effort I’m down to daily that

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otherwise we gear 1 cope

pure garnet
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if they had any form of a decent atx 1dpc board for <$400 i’d daily gear 2

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but the mpower is too small for my fishbowl

turbid locust
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If I ever end up swapping back to an ATX board for daily I’ll probably pick up an O11 Mini V2

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That case doesn’t look goofy with mATX

pure garnet
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the y40 would mostly hide it but the side profile would suck

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well, the front of the case

turbid locust
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I lowkey dgaf about aesthetics

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But as soon as I’m done benching the 9850X3D it’s going in the HDV for daily in my A3

blazing ivy
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about DLSS 4.5

turbid locust
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now that I think about it? The HDV was kind of a PITA for gear 2 so I might gear 1 cope anyway

turbid locust
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I’ll have plenty of headroom so

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well maybe not if I’m gonna path trace lol

blazing ivy
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he formally worked at EVGA

turbid locust
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I wasn’t an Nvidia user when DLSS 3 and 4 released so I’m not sure if a slight performance hit is normal

blazing ivy
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its prob worth tbh if you can lower the dlss from quality to balanced

turbid locust
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Just depends

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if it can do 6400 but it needs like 1.25+ VSoC I may go for gear 2 anyway

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HDV is only rated for 7200MTs lmao

pure garnet
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i daily 1.25v but it’d probably do less

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1.15v lived for a fair bit

turbid locust
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I always minimize VSoC for gear 1

pure garnet
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i just got lazy

turbid locust
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Minimizing voltages is super fun for me

pure garnet
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between my tomahawk dying, my 265k acting up in the master and later just being a quirk of the platform with the ocf (and the imc sucking too) i just bought a 4 dimm with a post code since that brings me joy

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and on a whim i got a 9800x3d bc 7800x3d feels lame

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got lucky and it did 6400 on my first try

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daily since

turbid locust
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I considered getting a new board for daily but… I already have 3 AM5 boards lmao

pure garnet
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i have 3 on hand but one is broken

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i sold the strix off for what i paid

turbid locust
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ITX could potentially go hard as fuck in the A3 but

pure garnet
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i don’t wanna do itx again

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i had an nr200p and it made me hate computers for awhile

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the mpower feels small enough but also big enough that it’s for adults

turbid locust
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My thing is is I don’t want anything that’s not capable of good gear 2

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so like mATX or ATX 4 dimmers are out of the question

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kinda

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If the B850 Force didn’t have such garbage IO I’d almost be willing to buy one

pure garnet
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i genuinely like the mpower but idk if i’d be happy dailying it

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if i didn’t have my y40 id want my x550-t2 back and it doesn’t work with that

turbid locust
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I’d be ok with dailying it if it wasn’t my best AM5 board

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I knew I should’ve bought 2 man lol

pure garnet
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is it gone again

turbid locust
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Idk if it ever restocked

pure garnet
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it did once

turbid locust
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Oh

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The only other somewhat cool 1dpc mATX board is the B850 AYW OC and it’s not available in the US

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well the force isn’t either but

pure garnet
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superbuy seeing the 3rd motherboard hit the warehouse

turbid locust
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real lmao

pure garnet
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the z790 ayw is the coolest one u got imo

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like the z790 mpower is fine but it’s ehhh

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the ayw is a nice daily board

turbid locust
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Damn the B850 AYW OC is like $170 USD on Xianyu

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shipping + fees would probably put it around $220

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The AYW boards get the basic bitch Asus bios with none of the special Asus sauce

pure garnet
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the blue one

turbid locust
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yeah

light goblet
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Hey can anybody help me ?

pure garnet
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i’ve never used the blue one, my grandma’s z170 pro gaming uses the strix one

pure garnet
turbid locust
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Imagine Asus red bios but every extra feature is stripped out of it

light goblet
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I remember you can some sort of support here no what channel should I use

turbid locust
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Like I can’t even see VIDs on the z790 AYW OC

pure garnet
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wtf šŸ’€

turbid locust
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yeah

pure garnet
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supposedly the mpower is missing stuff from amd cbs but i’m not paying $750 for a tachyon

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just pay double the price of the mpower for a used gene and bench that

turbid locust
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the strat

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I messaged that guy earlier unironically to ask about it

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If it’s ever been on LN2 I don’t want it

pure garnet
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i don’t think the people on ocn actually like anything

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they’re always complaining

turbid locust
hollow quiver
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What’s poppin tc2

ornate remnant
plush smelt
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would it be evil to send back the monitor i bought 2 weeks ago and get a refund then buy a new monitor with the same specs since it's cheaper now?

ornate remnant
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Go ham

heavy spire
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Not bad, clear cmos remote would be nice

brisk jolt
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glorified mpower

low sorrel
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setsuna

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have you tried dlss 4.5 yet

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this shit is black fucking magic

brisk jolt
low sorrel
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the new model tanks my fps but it looks so much better and i would rather play on ultra performance

oak vector
low sorrel
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all rtx users can

oak vector
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Oh interesting

low sorrel
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only dyanmic mfg is limited

low sorrel
oak vector
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Do all games have it yet or is it just in a couple so far (I haven’t looked at anything ces related so far)

oak vector
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Yummy

low sorrel
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you enable it in the nvidia app

oak vector
burnt socket
devout ridge
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the AMD keynote seems to have been the most interesting of the three big ones yesterday

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NVIDIA only talked about AI and datacenters, intel is intel so no one cares, AMD announced yet another ā€œbest gaming cpu in the worldā€

oak vector
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I didn’t even watch it but I gather that’s pretty accurate

devout ridge
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not my fault intel is intelling

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i watched the nvidia keynote from about 15 min in to finish, got bored of the intel one super fast

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intel’s speaker just can’t compete with jensen

oak vector
oak vector
devout ridge
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intel’s speaker just doesn’t have the stage presence that jensen does

oak vector
devout ridge
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nor do i, and thats the funniest part

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everyone knows jensen huang, no one knows who intel’s guy is

oak vector
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lmfaooo my point be proven

indigo tree
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Is it weird that my best charger is some random charger I got at GameStop on clearance for 20 dollars?

devout ridge
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yes

indigo tree
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Seems word to me considering i have like 3 laptop usb c chargers. But i guess those don't use the right protocol or something

devout ridge
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need the right voltage and amperage rating

indigo tree
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I assumed it was because my phone used Qualcomm QC and the laptop charger had its own handshake protocol or something

livid flame
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That’s literally the only thing that could come out and excite people right now

devout ridge
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no idea, i haven't seen much coverage of the intel keynote

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supposedly the pantherlake laptop chips are supposed to have pretty good IGPUs

livid flame
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AMD - CPUs are golden right now. Nvidia - lets be honest they’re hated by consumers for the current pricing and most people have their gpu if they want it. Intel - offer something in gpu division that’s consumer friendly and their CPUs are being blown out the water in the DIY market

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For workstations Intel could get people excited but I think that’s far less people in here

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Like my next work laptop is due this year, I’d much prefer Intel over AMD still for my CPU in that

devout ridge
#

meh, AMD is still stomping intel in the workstation field

#

threadripper is just unbeaten

gentle gale
#

amd is really only stomping intel with x3d

#

their base chips are about on par with intel

devout ridge
#

here's to hoping AMD doesn't let up with the competition

#

don't want to give intel any chance to make a comeback

gentle gale
#

i would

#

would be cool to see intel make a comeback

gentle gale
topaz veldt
#

Oh nice they already dropped the new Nvidia driver

shell void
#

yes tom

#

that was the worst AMD keynote that i’ve ever seen

#

i’ve watched them all since 2017

turbid locust
#

Like a 20% performance hit on 30 series in some games LOL

edgy laurel
#

ya know looking at the Glacial, I don't even know where the PCIe slot is and i'm ok with it

devout ridge
#

the PCIe slot makes my brain want to think "AI"

edgy laurel
devout ridge
#

even though i know it's just a translucent cover

#

oh wait shit that's the M.2 heatpipe

edgy laurel
#

that thing says m.2 so like

#

i guess the GPU is built in

#

5090's onboard

devout ridge
#

maybe the GPU is under that massive VRM screen

edgy laurel
#

and what is that between the socket and the DIMM slots

#

either a big pogo pin array or white LEDs

devout ridge
#

looks like LEDs to me

#

though it might be some proprietary connector for their AIO there

#

maybe a cableless solution?

edgy laurel
#

good call

#

Dark Hero Neo ^

devout ridge
#

Very nice, i quite like the idea of cableless coolers

edgy laurel
#

hey at least you get a pcie slot with that one

devout ridge
#

they retain full support for other coolers, so i'm all for it

brisk jolt
devout ridge
#

is that glacial board E-ATX?

brisk jolt
#

and its fucking ironic

edgy laurel
devout ridge
#

DIMM.2 slot right?

devout ridge
#

i genuinely have no idea where the PCIe slot is on the glacial board

#

maybe that very bottom cover pops off to reveal it? but that seems really weird and bad for GPU support

edgy laurel
#

lol yeah at first it was a bit of a joke and I figured surely it would be obvious looking closer but nope

devout ridge
#

Yeah like unironically i don't see where it would be

#

like it obviously has to be under one of the covers, but there's no way you're meant to leave that big main cover off if you want to use a GPU?

edgy laurel
#

yeah and that bottom panel is one large piece. so you'd have to remove the whole thing just to use a PCIe card?

devout ridge
#

Maybe the lower slot is intended to be used with a riser to a vertical GPU mount?

edgy laurel
#

we're clearly missing something here lol

devout ridge
#

a slot at the very bottom under that smaller cover at the very bottom of the board

#

where is this thing supposed to go?

#

and what is that thing to begin with

#

the more pictures i see of it, the more confused i am

edgy laurel
#

so yeah, that whole panel has to come off to use a slot lmao

fast geyser
#

can i replace a broken MSI 144hz screen with any other 144hz screen with the same size and pin number?

devout ridge
#

lol wtf, you just can't have that whole beauty panel if you want to actually slot anything in?

fast geyser
#

msi part prices are significantly higher for some reason

devout ridge
#

Maybe it slides down, since it seems that very bottom piece is a right angle connector thing

burnt socket
#

yay 9850x3d is announced! a rebadged 9800x3d with 5.6 GHz. Happy cuz price will fall for the 9800x3d

devout ridge
edgy laurel
steel stream
burnt socket
devout ridge
#

here we were thinking they had some cool design for the pcie slot, but actually it's stupid as hell

edgy laurel
devout ridge
#

"want that pretty white board? NO GPU FOR YOU"

steel stream
#

slot some shitty Am5 APU into it

devout ridge
#

is this a hint that strix HALO is coming to the desktop...?

steel stream
#

i think strix halo is impossible to bring to desktop

#

at least in AM5

devout ridge
#

yeah i'm very much joking

#

dimms are too far from the CPU to work well

#

that's why the frame desktop has to have soldered ram

#

let me dream though

#

i went from quite excited for that board, to entirely uninterested in record time

#

oustanding work ASUS

edgy laurel
#

what a dumb design

devout ridge
#

truly

edgy laurel
shell void
devout ridge
#

it feels like a concept car, except they actually released the damn thing

devout ridge
#

i get prompted to switch to the US site, and it just shows a page not found error

#

OH, that fan module is a ram cooler

devout ridge
#

and those pins are pogos for a cableless AIO, very cool

edgy laurel
devout ridge
edgy laurel
#

thermaltake can't figure this out either

devout ridge
#

deliver me the site based on my auto detected region, then give me a selector in the top right to switch if i want to

edgy laurel
devout ridge
#

oh bottom cover isn't for right angle connectors, it's just another beauty panel that pops off

#

seems you also can't use those bottom connectors with the beauty panel

edgy laurel
#

lol

#

this keeps getting better and better

devout ridge
#

so essentially you can't use either beauty panel if you want to actually use the board

#

this whole board is a fucking joke

edgy laurel
#

so they come off when you setup the board, go back in the box and then never get used again

#

nice

devout ridge
#

Pretty much

#

they might as well be packing material

#

it advertises that big panel as a heatsink for the lower M.2, but i don't see how that is the case if you can't install a GPU with it on

#

maybe that's why they didn't show any pics without the beauty panels, they don't want people to realize just how dumb it is

shell void
#

can’t wait to try dynamic multi frame generation on my Asus ROG Swift OLED PG27UCWM

edgy laurel
#

how long before you realize you still think 27" is too small

devout ridge
#

i'm trying to figure out what those connectors at the bottom of the ram fan are going to connect to

topaz veldt
devout ridge
#

i don't see anything on the board, or even on the dimm.2 thing

edgy laurel
devout ridge
edgy laurel
#

and that fan goes in its place

steel stream
devout ridge
#

this does look somewhat removable

topaz veldt
turbid locust
devout ridge
topaz veldt
#

oh its got a 4pins for pwm and the big things are magnets

edgy laurel
#

is everyone just showing up on the same page that the giant cover needing to be removed just to use the top PCIe slot is hilariously stupid design?

topaz veldt
devout ridge
#

i meant the cover on the DIMM.2, not the dimm.2 itself

topaz veldt
#

Cover on DIMM.2 is always removable

devout ridge
#

Oh, i'm honestly very unfamiliar with DIMM.2

shell void
topaz veldt
#

its a double sided NVMe PCB

edgy laurel
shell void
#

oh the thought that 27ā€ is too small will never go away, but i wanna play with the latest panel tech

steel stream
edgy laurel
#

a day or two of "ohh, wow". Then "ok nice yeah its OLED alright". Then huh these is less immersive experience to actually use and game on.

devout ridge
#

twelve 10g USB in addition to 2 USB4 ports, and 2 10g ethernet ports, fucking bonkers

topaz veldt
devout ridge
#

this board will look amazing on display in stores, but will be solidly mediocre in any other context

steel stream
devout ridge
#

only feature i'm quite interested in is the pogo pins for the AIO

#

i really like that idea

edgy laurel
#

(at least the Godlike doesn't cover your PCIe slots)

shell void
#

it’s MSI’s world

topaz veldt
#

it likely has a differnt covver that lets you expose the slot

#

You can see the magnets here

edgy laurel
devout ridge
topaz veldt
shell void
#

i think it’s quesarito day

topaz veldt
#

Lets be honest that board is going into one of the fishtank tall boys with vertical GPUs

devout ridge
#

imagine if it could switch between x16 being in the top slot, or in the bottom, instead of being limited to at best x8 x8 to the two slots

topaz veldt
#

2x 5.0 x16

devout ridge
#

Really cool

#

Is this the first board that can do that?

topaz veldt
#

Not sure

shell void
#

kingpin boards had that so OCers could run the gpu in a lower slot to have more room around the CPU LN2 pot

devout ridge
#

oh yeah they do label the second pcie slot as "PCIEx16(G5)_2"

topaz veldt
#

most people are running a vertical riser cable in the high slot and need like 150mm

#

now you could do a vertical mount with like a 70-80mm cable

devout ridge
#

i’d be curious to see if there’s a mount that doesn’t require a cable at all, and instead slots right in

topaz veldt
#

could be

#

but it'd be case dependent

devout ridge
#

and more or less exclusive to this one board

topaz veldt
#

yeah

devout ridge
#

would be a cool concept i’d like to see become more of a thing though

topaz veldt
#

its weird because its basically a high end workstation board in white

#

the IO is kind of nuts

#

but I suspect a LOT of lane sharing

#

it has I think 12 USB 10 Gbps

#

4 USB4

#

dual 10 Gbps NICs

#

7 NVMe

devout ridge
#

2x USB4

edgy laurel
#

3 years later since my X670E board with dual USB4 ports, still not sure what people are using these for

#

as they sit there sucking up PCIe lanes

#

4x precious CPU connected lanes at that

#

is this the first return of the Dark Hero name since the famous X570?

topaz veldt
#

yes it is

#

but I dunno whats "dark" about it

#

The X570 Dark Hero ditched the chipset fan

brisk jolt
#

lets play a game of who can guess what this GPU exact model is

#

exact SKU

steel stream
#

5090 TI

brisk jolt
#

this might take longer than expected

#

its not a 5090
but indeed its a 50 series from gigglebutt

shell void
#

idk if it’s intel or amd but you’re using an asrock steel legend board

brisk jolt
#

not my build

#

a friend there swapped from a 7900XT to this after 2 months of my yapping

edgy laurel
#

the three mounting holes (the only thing you can see) match Gigabyte Masters

brisk jolt
#

the answer lies at the bottom left of the card

shell void
#

if it’s not a master then it’s an aero

brisk jolt
#

but yes it matches the aorus master tier for what it is

edgy laurel
#

this is a bad game

brisk jolt
#

i know

edgy laurel
#

you can't see anything

brisk jolt
#

my exact thoughts when I saw this

brisk jolt
edgy laurel
#

@topaz veldt is this real

brisk jolt
#

surprisingly he got a beefy 70ti model at $700 pre-tax

edgy laurel
#

I've heard he owns a display

devout ridge
#

the rumors say he owns a display

edgy laurel
#

By leveraging the power of the 2nd generation transformer, Performance Mode is now comparable to, and can even beat, native image quality, while Ultra Performance has evolved into a truly viable mode for 4K gaming.

#

These are some crazy claims, we shall see. Its impressive as is but beat?

#

If Nvidia is pushing Ultra Performance mode as viable in their official documentation, you know game developers have this in mind when designing games

#

and people are SO mad about that

steel stream
#

I can test this out

oak vector
devout ridge
#

found a mistake in Intel's press release

steel stream
#

please don't break my GPU

devout ridge
#

386H states 20 pcie lanes, but says 8 G4 4 G5

edgy laurel
devout ridge
#

should either be 12 PCIE lanes, or 8G4 12G5

steel stream
autumn hatch
devout ridge
#

intel proof read your charts before you post them smh

mild sentinel
#

i think this is someone from msi OC team tbh using lightning Z 5090

shell void
edgy laurel
#

@steel stream Custom them Model L for the 4K Ultra Performance optimized preset

devout ridge
edgy laurel
#

make sure you have beta updates turned on in the Nvapp

steel stream
edgy laurel
devout ridge
edgy laurel
#

exactly how it should have been from the start

devout ridge
#

if so, i'm curious if you see it with DLSS FG 4.5

steel stream
shell void
#

backlight strobing + VRR is a reality now

edgy laurel
#

oh wait, doesn't the Nvidia overlay now have DLSS specific settings

shell void
#

i hope it can do less than 2x FG

oak vector
edgy laurel
brisk jolt
#

im glad they added dynamic MFG, simplifies messing with MFG multipliers to hit the FPS I want

oak vector
edgy laurel
#

ya, been saying it should have been that way from the start

mild sentinel
#

dayum ok more infos

oak vector
#

Idk what those buttons do but I guess I got a lot to read up on haha

craggy mist
#

click on them and see what happens

edgy laurel
#

don't need to know, just set to latest

oak vector
#

I missed all of nvidias CES presentation sadlinus

devout ridge
#

they didn't even mention DLSS at all in it

edgy laurel
#

from what I understand, you didn't miss anything consumer/gaming related

#

it was all AI

devout ridge
#

i watched it, it was all datacenter AI talk

#

quite literally nothing about consumers or gaming

mild sentinel
devout ridge
#

i wanna buy an NVIDIA droid

oak vector
#

How boring.

devout ridge
#

only saving grace was Jensen's beautiful alligator leather jacket

oak vector
devout ridge
#

me and everyone else kept waiting for the 90 seconds of gaming at the end, it just never happened

#

though it's possible it got cut off because jensen started fumbling the script at the end

topaz veldt
edgy laurel
#

that would have been SICK

devout ridge
#

Jensen, i would do anything for a droid

mild sentinel
devout ridge
#

anything for a droid

#

i want the droid

merry stirrup
#

new driver stuff hmmm hmm

devout ridge
#

DLSS 4.5 is supposed to be an entire generation's worth of improvement to quality

wraith steeple
merry stirrup
#

i care more about ghosting and how it does with foliage

#

as that has been my primary issue with any form of upscaling

devout ridge
#

from the demos as CES, DLSS 4.5 seems to be a lot better with ghosting than DLSS4

merry stirrup
#

i mean FSR3 cant even render a bush

devout ridge
#

though expect that to be cherry picked examples

merry stirrup
#

yeah

devout ridge
#

No third party testing outside of demos so far, so we don't really know how it will generally behave

merry stirrup
#

does that override thing work in tarkov?

shell void
#

i don’t notice ghosting with DLSS 4

merry stirrup
#

let me see

devout ridge
#

anything with DLSS support will have the override was my understanding

devout ridge
shell void
#

extreme smear/ghosts with RR

merry stirrup
#

windy foliage is always a telltale sign for me it just looks off

topaz veldt
#

I installed the new driver though I dunno what version of DLSS is working/not working

merry stirrup
#

it doesnt look bad but it certianly is not what it is supposed to look like

pure garnet
#

are you changing preset floppa

vagrant cargo
#

Ok what news did i miss whilest i was in bed monitors and pc case wise

devout ridge
#

Reflections in CP2077 always seemed to be pretty telling to me

wraith steeple
#

How's TC2?

merry stirrup
pure garnet
#

preset k/j are really good

wraith steeple
devout ridge
#

though CP2077 is a lot of my experience with DLSS4

merry stirrup
#

in tarkov i always go to preset k

devout ridge
#

most other games i play either aren't compatible, or already run at 165fps+

hot stratus
merry stirrup
#

360hz im always fiending for fps

pure garnet
#

@shell void how are you enjoying your early access 9850x3d

devout ridge
#

i'd be curious to see if i could force DLSS4.5 on Blade and Sorcery though

#

I wouldn't use FG as i'm particularly sensitive to latency in VR, but the upscaling would be promising

merry stirrup
#

some people have luck with the smooth motioni n tarkov

devout ridge
#

i never notice the latency in desktop gaming, but in VR it makes me nauseous

merry stirrup
#

tarkov is just so bound by my cpu but idk what

#

it cannot be memory

edgy laurel
#

DLSS-SR
DLSS-FG
DLSS-RR

merry stirrup
#

it could be capacity but it isnt speed

mild sentinel
devout ridge
#

Blade and sorcery can either be really CPU bound, or really GPU bound, depends on the environment and settings

merry stirrup
#

60% gpu usage in tarkov with DLSS is quite annoying

#

but i have to use DLSS cause all other AA is bad

edgy laurel
merry stirrup
#

doesnt exist

merry stirrup
#

just DLSS quality in tarkov

oak vector
#

Also Hii flopa

merry stirrup
#

herro

devout ridge
# oak vector šŸ˜”

jensen was doing great for the first hour, but started fumbling in the last 15 minutes

edgy laurel
#

i'm sure it can be forced on somehow

#

but MP games are dicey

oak vector
merry stirrup
#

is this how i set the override properly

#

let me use nv cleaninstall so i can set the dlss indicator up

devout ridge
#

he had to restart his sentences quite a few times

oak vector
edgy laurel
#

Yes. Also remember there are DLSS options in the NVapp overlay now

#

so show you want its doing

merry stirrup
#

okay give me a minute

merry stirrup
#

going to use nvcleaninstall for dlss indicator

edgy laurel
edgy laurel
#

or just pick which one you want in the Alt-Z menu

#

or do a custom layout

merry stirrup
#

we lit

topaz veldt
#

what games support it yet

#

or does it not matter

merry stirrup
#

override feature apparently op

devout ridge
#

but games would slowly add it to the ingame settings overtime

edgy laurel
#

whats unclear is if only Preset M and L have the new transformer model 2.0

vagrant cargo
#

The hkc/ ktc M10 Ultra seems interesting

edgy laurel
#

because M and L are optimized for Performance and Ultra Performance usage, which really kinda limits them to 4K users only

#

with Preset K being what were all using before as the "latest"

wraith steeple
#

Midnight shift restarts today. First of the year. The break was nice thoughNinoPog

edgy laurel
#

oh i thought you were done done

devout ridge
#

rip, right in time for CES and new tech

#

i have a random six day break from work that ends on thursday

merry stirrup
#

ok indicator enabled

devout ridge
#

i didn't request time off, they just randomly gave me 6 days off in a row

#

work secretly wanted me to be able to binge CES content and try out DLSS 4.5 for hours on end

brisk jolt
#

n1

edgy laurel
#

@merry stirrup @topaz veldt

#

showing override status and preset in use

topaz veldt
devout ridge
#

What game is that?

edgy laurel
#

uhh, i dunno. from an Nvidia press release back in August when these additions came out

devout ridge
#

i don't recognize it

fringe vigil
#

4090 traitor

edgy laurel
#

jorj still thinks I got a 5090

wraith steeple
devout ridge
#

what gpu do you have?

edgy laurel
#

a 4090

merry stirrup
#

its not using 4.5

devout ridge
#

funny way of saying 5090

fringe vigil
#

Oh

edgy laurel
merry stirrup
#

so i cant override

edgy laurel
#

the latest from today is 310.5.0

#

its the actual dll versioning

#

yeah its not clear to me yet (i'm asking on reddit) if simply overriding is enough to ensure the Transformer model 2.0 is used

#

and if so, if its limited to certain presets only

vagrant cargo
edgy laurel
#

aka does the game require the updated DLL

vagrant cargo
#

These cases look neat

merry stirrup
#

yeah seems that even changing my override for specifically tarkov to latest doesnt work

#

still 4.0

brisk jolt
opaque spindle
#

can I change my gpu RGB? it's gigabyte and what about cpu cooler

devout ridge
#

openrgb

vagrant cargo
#

Ok I may be the only one but i really dont like the look of that almost side to aide glass case

merry stirrup
#

just dsr up a res and then turn on dlss quality

vagrant cargo
#

Also 1000w gpu what in the hell

merry stirrup
#

its got two connectors

#

new vbios to flash

vagrant cargo
#

Extra cables that will burn

merry stirrup
#

2 cables rated at 600w, theres more safety margin there at 1000w than with a stock 5090, its fine

vagrant cargo
#

Tbh main thing in the video ehat caught my attention was those 2 monitors he shown

devout ridge
#

same margin as running the 5090 single 12vhpwr at 500w

#

plus the stock power is 800w, it has an extreme performance profile that is 1000w

vagrant cargo
#

Tbh im also really over the whole glass side panel thing I rather just have a closed side panel with a massive led screen on it

dusty lotus
#

linus and a regular sized monitor

livid flame
#

What you need is an LCD side panel. If you contact Hyte, they’ll make it

vagrant cargo
#

Tbh if im using the im not looking inside my pc so I dont see the point in glass

merry stirrup
#

just make an lcd clear like linus did

#

use a white matte film to diffuse

vagrant cargo
#

I rather have hyte do something like the y70 but have the whole wrap around panel be lcd or led screens

livid flame
vagrant cargo
#

Could be so cool

merry stirrup
vagrant cargo
#

Also the case with a hologram on it sounds interesting I would like to see stuff like thst take off more

merry stirrup
#

wouldnt theoretically be that hard to diy

#

cause they did that each model

#

aliexpress control board

vagrant cargo
merry stirrup
#

white piece of film

vagrant cargo
#

Or they could maybe pull off doing a side panel where its slight glass at front but the rest on side is a normal panel or a lcd screen

#

Im curious do uou guys think hyte will reveal a new case at ces?

turbid locust
#

this made me chuckle

oak vector
topaz veldt
#

@edgy laurel what is that hot key bound to that it switches models? https://youtu.be/9rnjawJ_QDc?si=_p8aBYBs9Hi18TKO&t=221 Time stamped

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oak vector
#

Run at 10 fps
Turns it into 60fps
Magic

edgy laurel
topaz veldt
vestal granite
#

nah nobody does, it'd be helpful if there was idk like a video announcement of sort telling people how

devout ridge
#

591.74 is the drivers i want for dlss4.5 right?

topaz veldt
#

yes

devout ridge
#

would yall enable motion smoothing or nah

#

It does

#

you just still don't get MFG

topaz veldt
#

just update, its for the community

devout ridge
#

dlss4.5 is supposedly beautiful

#

really weird artifacting in CP2077 with DLSS4.5, restored default settings so i'm on DLSS4 again, i'll change settings one at a time to isolate the problem

#

Same area as reference for what it should look like without artifacting

wraith steeple
#

Crosshair Extreme with a White Finish

#

Dark Hero makes a comeback on AMD

devout ridge
#

apparently CP2077 really doesn't like motion smoothing, hard crashed

turbid locust
#

Ok maybe no 9850X3D on launch for me

oak vector
#

CyberBug2077

turbid locust
#

Just found out I’m gonna have to have a CT scan and my insurance is dog ass apparently

oak vector
#

Australian healthcare my beloved

shell void
devout ridge
devout ridge
#

so i have no idea what caused that behavior

turbid locust
oak vector
#

True dat

wraith steeple
#

Is this new?

topaz veldt
#

must...not...buy

turbid locust
#

Half that wood accent is gonna be covered by a rear exhaust fan and gpu lmao

proven saddle
proven saddle
ripe flicker
#

hi upgrading from a 1050p 60hz monitor to a 1440p monitor 180hz, will my 3060ti be enough?

viral iron
#

Ya

ripe flicker
ripe flicker
# viral iron Ya

how much fps do you think ill be getting playing some triple aaa game

viral iron
#

80 fps

ripe flicker
#

thankss

#

also my cpu is ryzen 5 3600

#

is that okay?

viral iron
#

60fps

ripe flicker
#

what cpu should I upgrade to?

viral iron
ripe flicker
#

thank u

viral iron
#

@ripe flicker 1440p benchmarks

viral iron
ripe flicker
#

thank youuuu

viral iron
#

Compound interest

ripe flicker
hoary hatch
#

Oooo

#

Panther lake 12 core igpu is confirmed N3E

#

This is our first N3E X86 paired GPU

shell void
#

best laptop cpu in the world rahhhhhhh

ripe flicker
#

so excited in getting my 1440p monitor

craggy mist
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1440p is awesome

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I think

ripe flicker
craggy mist
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how’d ur cat break ur monitor? 😭

ripe flicker
craggy mist
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ooo

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that must’ve been a tough downgrade then

ripe flicker
craggy mist
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oh

ripe flicker
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yeah I was away that time and basically left my set up idk why he peed on it but he destroyed like 2 keyboards of mine already....

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he hates it when the litter isnt clean lol was so devestated but I cant do anything cuz he is my cat lol

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would frame generation be good considering I can reach a base of 60fps?

craggy mist
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frame gen makes latency

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wait do you make 60fps now? With the 1050p monitor

ripe flicker
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I dont play competitive games I mostly monster hunter

ripe flicker
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why? my rig is ryzen 5 3600 and 3060ti

craggy mist
craggy mist
ripe flicker
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kinda like story but is combat game against big ahh monsters/creatures

ripe flicker
dusty lotus
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if nvidia is bringing back the 3060 why not name it 5050ti

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or hear me out, a 5010

pure garnet
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because that would be bad for consumers

hoary hatch
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Samsung 10nm+++++ must be hella cheap

edgy laurel
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tc1 has gone full blown "why low fps, does anyone have a fix"

odd sable
edgy laurel
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i swear that mention of "a fix" sends me off the edge

pure garnet
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buy a new computer, problem not fixed? software issue

odd sable
odd sable
craggy mist
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just get a AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 9995WX and like 2TB of ddr5 ram

topaz veldt
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265K šŸ™

gentle urchin
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Think of the environment

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if we all switch to 32-bit OS, we can save so much RAM usage

wraith steeple
grizzled lily
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guys 9950 + 9070xt, gaming is fine but when browsing the web, there is like a lag, only half or 75% of the page shows up and its very slow, monitor 1080p MSI 144HZ, any tips or tricks, I saw reddit on disabling MPO? Would that work?

wispy ember
grizzled lily
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yea brave and tor, but its minimal on those

grizzled lily
proud summit
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Keep putting matte finishes on everything you glorious Samsung angels šŸ˜€

topaz veldt
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Matte is for cavemen

edgy laurel
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5nail has evolved

topaz veldt
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I don't LOVE glossy, but praising matte is not a good place

wraith steeple
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285K yoooo

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285K on an air-cooler has been a nice experience NGL

topaz veldt
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Its a good CPU

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I should turn mine on šŸ™

wraith steeple
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It saw mid 80s max when doing Cinebench R23

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For temps