#tech-chat-2

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devout ridge
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usually they cap out at <1000usd for the mic itself

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most stage mics are in the 300-600usd range, and that's for high quality ones

topaz veldt
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Unfortunately Broadcom is killing Bluefield

devout ridge
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i'm so numb to the bandwidth numbers they show

topaz veldt
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DPUs were really pushing forward but with Broadcom fucking VMware customers there is almost no motivation in that space

pure garnet
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did they announce a price?

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i might be interested for a daily board

turbid locust
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Probably around Apex $$$

topaz veldt
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Did you guys see the fucked up 5090 Matrix 12vhpwr

devout ridge
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no, show

pure garnet
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people on ocn been complaining mpower is missing stuff in bios

turbid locust
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Unify-X has always been pretty much a paper launch SKU anyway

topaz veldt
topaz veldt
devout ridge
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oh yeah i did see that

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didn't they try and claim it was a design feature not a flaw?

wraith steeple
devout ridge
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even jensen admits infiniband is confusing as hell

turbid locust
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Wasn’t this keynote supposed to be an hour

devout ridge
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I believe so, yeah

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we're at about 1:20 so far

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how greedy, he may only be able to spare a measily 15 seconds for gamers, and that's being generous

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150TBs of memory per bluefield?

low sorrel
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WAIT

turbid locust
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lol literally zero GeForce coverage

low sorrel
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thats it?

turbid locust
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none. Zero.

devout ridge
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HAHA! 0s for the gamers

vestal granite
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its because we're bad people and deserve nothing but suffering

edgy laurel
steel stream
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W

vestal granite
turbid locust
vestal granite
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they could say hi

terse ivy
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Zero Geforce coverage lol

vestal granite
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like hey geforce guys we dont have anything today sorry but we love you and appreciate you gamers

steel stream
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Jensen to us

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Gamers unite and rise up!

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If you can

vestal granite
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yeah lets all go buy AMD 😐

turbid locust
pure garnet
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what were we actually expecting

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dlss gonna be a blog post fr

low sorrel
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dlss 4.5

steel stream
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it'll be a tweet

edgy laurel
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we already knew all about that

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its just a point update anyway

turbid locust
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ok but like talk about it for 20 seconds

edgy laurel
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not a keynote worthy thing

devout ridge
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jensen will tweet "hey btw, dlss 4.5, go have fun or something"

vestal granite
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0.1% of revenue = 0.1% of time, everyone go check the frame by frame we should have 0.1 or 0.2 seconds of geforce coverage

pure garnet
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you’ll get your 9850x3d footnote at the end of the amd presentation and the world will celebrate

shell void
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up to 7% more fps with 50% more power usage and people will celebrate because it isnt Intel

turbid locust
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I just want better IMC if rumors are true

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It could literally perform the same but do 9000 gear 2 and I’d be happy

steel stream
shell void
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new IOD to run 9000MT/s just to still be limited to 64GB/s read bandwidth and 32GB/s write bandwidth

steel stream
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RIP Mac

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gone too soon

turbid locust
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how in the actual fuck is that a warship

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@plucky finch I’m only pinging you because you’re online and it’s not an actual issue but can you explain that last warship cause wtf

low sorrel
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what did you say

turbid locust
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“But funny”

plucky finch
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uhhh think of 2 letters to complete butfu

low sorrel
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smh mac

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i can't believe you

plucky finch
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did that make sense?

shell void
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T-65 minutes until Kitty Pond @hoary hatch

floral spear
low sorrel
pure garnet
turbid locust
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dunno

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I’ll find out though I guess

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we day 1’ing that shit yolo

pure garnet
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because even super binned god samples are only like 6600 bench stable

low sorrel
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3000 fclk trust

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wtf they stole hardware unboxed's music

devout ridge
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wow, intel's speaker really does not have the stage presence that jensen has

low sorrel
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who the fuck is this guy

devout ridge
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he has no aura compared to jensen

pure garnet
devout ridge
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6600 pineapples?

pure garnet
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could be

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6600 pineapples on the soc tile

fervent chasm
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thats not what i meant

steel stream
steel stream
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Jerry that is Intels CEO

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you bring great dishonor to TC2 for not knowing who that is

pure garnet
fervent chasm
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idk who that is either

pure garnet
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i made this inforgraphic to break it down

low sorrel
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where is pat gelsinger

steel stream
fervent chasm
pure garnet
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if you can't figure out that memory is talked about during the discussion on memory controllers that's on you

pure garnet
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cat and the hat is a good read

steel stream
fervent chasm
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im running on 0 sleep

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ive been trying to fix this issue in my remote desktop app for 5 hours now

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im going crazy

pure garnet
fervent chasm
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i had all the books

shell void
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@edgy laurel speaking of the 1000Hz 720p monitors

steel stream
shell void
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the first of Timmy’s videos has arrived

pure garnet
steel stream
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when I finished reading there were like 6

pure garnet
low sorrel
pure garnet
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but yeah 18 now

topaz veldt
low sorrel
topaz veldt
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actually he is #2 asshole

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Hock Tan is #1

low sorrel
pure garnet
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what the

turbid locust
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Wait Intel is now? Thought it was 7

pure garnet
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michael said 7

turbid locust
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God damn it Michael

topaz veldt
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Michael also hates Intel

turbid locust
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What did I miss I just opened the stream

topaz veldt
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Skipping ARL refresh, going right to NVL in April

turbid locust
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bruh

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new socket I’m assuming

topaz veldt
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They are doing two version

turbid locust
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what the fuck

topaz veldt
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new socket, and smaller core count on 1851

turbid locust
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bitch what the fuck

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Intel hates their customers I stg

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Intel make a socket last more than 4 seconds challenge level fucking impossible

steel stream
pure garnet
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nova lake was always supposed to be on 1954

low sorrel
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b390 annouced

steel stream
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should be PTL talk mostly

turbid locust
hoary hatch
pure garnet
tepid mason
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I bought a glorius model o for 30€

hoary hatch
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Is that supposed to impress us

tepid mason
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Yes

low sorrel
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damn the intel igpu looks like it's cooking

pure garnet
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i bought a costco hot dog for $1.50 with a drink

turbid locust
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Why are they comparing the B390 to an AMD mobile chip lmao

turbid locust
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Oh

pure garnet
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why are the glorious mice so ugly now

turbid locust
shell void
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darnit man im missing the kitty pond announcement, i read 7pm earlier today

pure garnet
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wtf is this man

wicked sluice
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That looks good

deep obsidian
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is this a good kb for 114cad

turbid locust
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XeSS news eyes_sus

tepid mason
low sorrel
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MFG

turbid locust
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XeSS MFG eyes_sus

tepid mason
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Xess looks ass imo

low sorrel
turbid locust
tepid mason
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Fsr 4 is nice tho

oak vector
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Morning

shell void
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i still havent tried the real XESS on my B580

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ive only tried the crappier open version on my 6900XT

oak vector
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Has ces started yet lol

shell void
oak vector
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Epic

turbid locust
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PTL handhelds OHMY

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AI SteveNotLikeThis

shell void
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it blows my mind that AMD is going to still be using RDNA3.5 in the first wave of Zen 6 laptop APUs

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theyre going to be decimated by Intel

hoary hatch
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Kitty pond handhelds at computer technology expo

hoary hatch
pallid marsh
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@low sorrel did you get a new GPU for Xmas?

turbid locust
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how nerfed are PTL 1851 chips gonna be

low sorrel
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no

hoary hatch
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Idk if any newer changes improve the algorithm

shell void
hoary hatch
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But like XeSS is about DLSS2 in terms of quality

hoary hatch
turbid locust
turbid locust
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God forbid Intel use fuckin numbers

shell void
pure garnet
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i think mac fell for snailbait

shell void
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no way intel is bragging about using vibe coding right now

turbid locust
turbid locust
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so my z890 is deadass obsolete now lit awesome cool fuck yeah hell yeah brother

hoary hatch
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His son can use ChatGPT

pure garnet
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nobody has found anything about lga 1851 beyond the 270k+

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and the 9 but u get the point

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alr and alr-r only

turbid locust
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I’m not buying a $400+ board every year Intel fuck you

pure garnet
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that's been like the main clowning point of core ultra for a year+ now

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that it's a single gen socket

turbid locust
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ya

fringe vigil
turbid locust
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Why is Intel like allergic to a multi generation socket tho

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like it’s actually annoying

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cause like all the cheap z series chipset boards are ass

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like actual dog ass

vagrant cargo
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Ok i dont see the point in a 1000hz monitor

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I highly doubt the majority wven have a pc that can get upto that

shell void
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getting that many frames in a game like valorant is extremely easy, but it's kind of a meme to introduce it with a smeary IPS panel

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tim said that it's already pretty smeary in the 1440p 500Hz mode

pure garnet
vagrant cargo
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Yeah from what i heard the 1000 is obtained through HD not full hd

turbid locust
vagrant cargo
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So 720p

pure garnet
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am4 and socket 775 are really the only long life sockets

turbid locust
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AM5 is getting 3 gens

vagrant cargo
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Ok so other than Asus so far have we seen any new mini led ultra wide monitors or 32 inch mini led monitors talked about?

turbid locust
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1 Gen per socket is just “fuck my consumer” bullshit

vagrant cargo
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My pc stuff broke like ram and cpu so I only got my tv and my phone

turbid locust
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I think I will simply just not give a fuck about NVL

vagrant cargo
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Be difficult to keep upto date with ces news like last year as a multi tabed with various things on my pc

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Last year noe its just phone and tv

pure garnet
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if nova lake big cache is a nice upgrade over my cpu im inclined to get it

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if it's not i'll just keep this chip

vagrant cargo
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Has intels show been on yet? What about Amds im eyeing up with those two the gpus

turbid locust
pure garnet
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either way when i upgrade im getting a new board so for me it's just

steel stream
pure garnet
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is nova cache or zen 6 x3d going to be an upgrade

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if not i keep waifu and 9800x3d

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mpower would look ugly in my fishbowl and apex is way too pricey for what it is at this time

shell void
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dude has bought like 4 am5 cpus and two or three boards but is yapping about platform longevity

wraith steeple
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Holy shit it works!NinoPog

pure garnet
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the z890 master is sitting in my closet because i know resale is terrible on lga 1851

shell void
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the only people who care about platform longevity are the enthusiasts who want to buy a new cpu every year, and that's not exactly a high value proposition

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the value play would be putting a $230 265K in a $100 board and using it for like 5 years

wraith steeple
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Getting this Turbo display to work was torture to but hey, it's working now and that's all that matters

pure garnet
turbid locust
steel stream
turbid locust
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$200 board vs like $700 retail board

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because every Intel board worth a fuck for OC starts at like $500

pure garnet
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damn lucky guy

turbid locust
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probably all I could sell mine for

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Z890 used market is about to be ASS

pure garnet
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dude it's been ass

turbid locust
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like worse than it already is lmao

pure garnet
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that's why i kept my master when i got the ocf

steel stream
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that's why I keep everything

turbid locust
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I sell shit to buy new shit

pure garnet
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i kinda wanna play with my 265k again but im out of ram

steel stream
pure garnet
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i cannot justify in any case of the word downgrading my 9800x3d to a 265k just to play with the memory controller

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once i finish up the 7800x3d project i'll probably sub that out

turbid locust
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Hit 365W lmao

pure garnet
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i haven't crunched in a couple days because the weather is too hot out

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looks like i can crunch next week

turbid locust
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When I get my bench set up properly I’ll be able to stick radiators in the window lol

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capitalize on that cold

pure garnet
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i can do ac stuff rn but

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that's so much work for bench passes vs standing outside

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also means that i have to sit there and wait for the rad to cool down if it reboots and the fans stop

tepid mason
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How do i find the best selling stuff on amazon

turbid locust
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Intel can we fuckin get to it bud

pure garnet
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my b850 mlg + 9800x3d setup is so boring but it works

turbid locust
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After I bench it the 9850X3D might end up in the HDV in the daily rig lmao

pure garnet
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hdv daily is criminal

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you gotta get yourself another mpower or some 4 dimm board for gear 1

turbid locust
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It’s a perfectly cromulent daily board

shell void
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i hope your 9850X3D needs 1.25v for 3000UCLK

turbid locust
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I hope you get in a car crash is basically what you just said to me

pure garnet
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am i looking at it wrong is there only 1 nvme slot

turbid locust
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One doesn’t have a cover thing

shell void
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LCD bros eating good this year

topaz veldt
shell void
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27" 5K 165Hz IPS with a glossy screen coating

pure garnet
shell void
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could be a good secondary monitor

turbid locust
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5K165Hz secondary is crazy

shell void
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very reasonable to be fair

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high ppi glossy for discord text

turbid locust
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real

pure garnet
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yeah using discord on my side monitor kinda blows now

turbid locust
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guys imagine my 9850X3D unironically doesn’t do 6400 again lmao

pure garnet
turbid locust
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At this point it’d be funny and it would be banished to gear 1 daily land

pure garnet
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alright im bored, trying 6600+2200 fclk

turbid locust
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glhf

turbid locust
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Unironically expect some 8000/2200 stuff out of me with the 9600x soon

pure garnet
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watch i have sugoi bun this whole time

topaz veldt
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I'm doing 8000 CL36 on my lame pc

turbid locust
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I might be able to get away with 8200 on my 9600x

pure garnet
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well 2200 fclk posted which is more than my other cpu can say

turbid locust
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I just need the stars to align

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Actually don’t even have to align I will take shit cores for good IMC and good glue

pure garnet
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okay 2200 1.25v = lockup

turbid locust
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kind of expected

pure garnet
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or uclk i didn’t try 1 at a time

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or changing more than 3 timings

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think i’m at like 6600cl34 or something

steel stream
turbid locust
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like test 2200 at 1.25vsoc at like 6000 mem

pure garnet
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i’m gonna run karhu, watch it error, then reload my profile and move on with my day

turbid locust
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Wait was that the whole fuckin Intel keynote

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The stream just ended

steel stream
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W

pure garnet
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my pc doesn't feel so good

turbid locust
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Did I just miss the whole NVL stuff or what

steel stream
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keynote was just PTL focused

pure garnet
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we weren’t getting nvl

steel stream
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NVL isn't till next year

pure garnet
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that’s eoy

vagrant cargo
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Ok so i knew i would with my new Intel Core Ultra 7 265K need a new motherboard and only thr best for my pc i brought my self the GIGABYTE Z890 AORUS MASTER motherboard

turbid locust
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bro what the fuck

pure garnet
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the best
gigabyte

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this dumb motherboard is so peak

vagrant cargo
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Changing my base cooler to the NOCTUA NH-U12A and getting some noctua pc case fans

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And well.my pc once finished upgrading gonna add up to quite a bit

pure garnet
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i had a d15s on my 265k for awhile

steel stream
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same

vagrant cargo
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If im correct after my monitor arrives and I get my new keyboard the custom mechanical one and my new mouse with other stuff and my new chair im getting my whole set up including my new 4k tv whats next to my pc set up the ps5 pro and some other stuff im looking at maybe 4k or more for everything I got

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Most of its on its way to mine I ordered them, my monitor is taking its sweet ass time though

wicked sluice
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Is it even worth getting a cooler with 2 towers for a 5 5600

pure garnet
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i mean it's like 30 bucks why not

hoary hatch
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Did anything happen during the rest of the Intel keynote

wicked sluice
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Yeah but if I want a quiet one it's more

vagrant cargo
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Any new gpus did intel announce?

pure garnet
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dude it's a 5600 you dont even have to put fans on a 2 tower cooler

edgy laurel
wicked sluice
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According to amazon

pure garnet
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just get a pa120 for $30

edgy laurel
turbid locust
pure garnet
vagrant cargo
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Also im having my pc be a no rgb pc motherboard i think has rgb but to me i wont be able to see it in my current pc case

edgy laurel
wicked sluice
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Alright

vagrant cargo
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But of any at ces get revealed that offer great sound proofing and also decent airflow I will go for that however I do want something with options for a disc drive im old school

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I do hope we see some retro themed pc cases in black or maybe a deep grey

vagrant cargo
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Media stuff is today

edgy laurel
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If you want leaks, there is videocardz which I always link you every time you ask this question

vagrant cargo
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And you know whats great i get to watch ces stuff live tommorow

vagrant cargo
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Day off from work then I got 5 days at work but if its anything like last week I may have shifts cancelled tbh its good my holiday from my game testing work finishes I can just pick up more hours with that

turbid locust
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I just need 9850X3D release date and then I’m chillin

topaz veldt
vagrant cargo
turbid locust
edgy laurel
vagrant cargo
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I generally hope to see earbuds with really great audio on par with the seinhesser hdb 630 / 620 and or focal bathys

topaz veldt
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hd 630!?

edgy laurel
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world class earbuds have existed for years

vagrant cargo
pure garnet
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both of those can handle youtube

topaz veldt
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Also HD 630 is closed back sadness

edgy laurel
topaz veldt
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thats what i meant

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but like... thats not a benchmark headphone

edgy laurel
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it is for its class

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wich is mobile use, ANC

topaz veldt
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earbuds != noise cancelling closed backs

edgy laurel
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not talking about earbuds

topaz veldt
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he is

vagrant cargo
topaz veldt
edgy laurel
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yeah, on par with

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which doesn't make any sense but

topaz veldt
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right, it makes no sense

vagrant cargo
turbid locust
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need me some open back IEMs

vagrant cargo
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There was something I read recently about a new headphone or tech that will improve noise cancelling so thats highly interesting

topaz veldt
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its a weird comparison/baseline

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"I am waiting for a hothatch on par with a turbo diesel sedan"

vagrant cargo
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For me most earbuds are just disappointing

topaz veldt
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you can just buy good earbuds, they already exist

vagrant cargo
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Yeah but im very nit picky

topaz veldt
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Trust me, they exist

vagrant cargo
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I escpially hear the mids and treble easily in all headphones man reason I brought the HDB 630 was its features and its EQ stuff

topaz veldt
topaz veldt
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Yes

turbid locust
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gang

topaz veldt
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always do

edgy laurel
topaz veldt
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He was too nit picky

edgy laurel
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your best bet for audiophile focused wireless earbuds are the Devialet Gemini II which have been out for a while

vagrant cargo
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I own 2 main Bluetooth headphones

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Focal bathys and the HDB 630

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Also if I wear my focal bathys out I tend to have more people approach me asking me for money and even those people selling stuff on the street the HDB 630 draw less attention

topaz veldt
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lolwut

vagrant cargo
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Quite alot when im wearing the bathys people see them and approach me asking for money I once asked one of them what makes you think I hsve money and he simply said "headphones look expensive "

vagrant cargo
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Main thing I was disappointed in earbud or headphones wise was the Samsung pro buds 3

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Overall most tech ive brought my self or been gifted with ive been happy with

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Well I did buy a 15 pound keyboard to try out its alright but good lord the noise its deafening

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Saying that after my pc upgrade is done probably next few months when I get my new ram , next project is my keyboard aiming for pure silence

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Im going custom mechanical

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Then im most likely getting my self a ups

slim pebble
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I can’t wait to browse the internet and run discord on a 1000hz monitor 😆

vagrant cargo
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Tbh for me i dont see any point in monitors above 185hz

slim pebble
shell void
vagrant cargo
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Saying that I originally didnt see the point in stuff at 144 either

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I didnt hsve nvidia bring back the 3060 on my bingo card wtf

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Ok so do we know which version they are doing?

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They have to be pretty dumb to re release the 8gb version

pure garnet
turbid locust
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He does have a Dr Pepper problem

shell void
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snail isnt based enough to do that

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this new Aorus 5090 is so weird looking

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it's double blow through with a tiny middle PCB like the FE

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but it's much thicker than the FE

devout ridge
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so it’s just a dumber FE

shell void
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yeah basically

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it probably runs cooler but it also is far larger and doesnt look as premium

devout ridge
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get rid of that model and use the chips to produce more FEs instead

hoary hatch
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The cooler is hideous

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But they may be using it to test compact PCBs and use them more widely on 60 series

low sorrel
shell void
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idk if this is using nvidia's PCBs or if gigabyte made their own

hoary hatch
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Guess we'll have to wait for a teardown

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Maybe derbaur will get his hands on one

shell void
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hidden third fan is kinda interesting, it's almost like a mixture of the 4090Ti and 5090 cooler

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but less visually appealing

hoary hatch
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It is genuinely one of the worst looking objects I've witnessed

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Particularly from the side profile

shell void
low sorrel
# shell void xd

it is suprsingly annoying to remove the background when you screenshot a discord pfp

shell void
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shame it came out as an AIO card a year after launch

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a quad slot and dual connector lightning air cooled card at launch wouldve been cool

pure garnet
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surprised nvidia let them

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i thought the 1 12v was enforced by them

devout ridge
hoary hatch
pure garnet
fringe vigil
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❤️

hoary hatch
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If Asus said "only power from one connector at a time", and limit was 600W I'd say that's not a violation

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Maybe 6090 will be 800W 😛

prime plume
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Looking into buying a prebuilt PC via PayPal since ram prices are yk, but I finish a few payment plans in like 4 months and by then the $1.5k i7-14th PC I'm looking at could be more like 2k+ by then since it has 32g ddr5

devout ridge
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do you need a new pc to make money or otherwise continue existing in a comfortable manner

prime plume
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Should I wait the few months especially since I already have an i9-10th kf with 64gb ddr5?

devout ridge
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you should not finance a PC if you don’t have to, especially given you’re financing other things

prime plume
devout ridge
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you can do streaming with your current pc

wraith steeple
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An Alta T1 to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the legendary TJ07 would be dope

devout ridge
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also streaming takes a while to become remotely profitable enough to be of mention

edgy laurel
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the godfather of cases shall never return

devout ridge
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unless it’s like feet streams

fervent chasm
edgy laurel
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hol up

devout ridge
prime plume
devout ridge
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impossible to say what the economic environment will be in the future

fervent chasm
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your current pc isnt enough?

devout ridge
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though it almost certainly won’t be much better

edgy laurel
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streaming

wifi

😆

devout ridge
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be a person, run a random 50ft ethernet cable through your house like the rest of us

fervent chasm
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or any other way to wire, like MoCA or Powerline

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Be a Nerd, Be a Nerd, Be a Nerd

hoary hatch
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10th gen = ddr4
You claim to have ddr5
🔫 so which is it

prime plume
prime plume
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Ddr4

topaz veldt
prime plume
fervent chasm
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why not just upgrade instead of a brand new prebuilt

fickle narwhal
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Did Jensen announce anything cool or just Ai ai ai ai

prime plume
devout ridge
wraith steeple
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Just AI stuff

devout ridge
fickle narwhal
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Rip

fervent chasm
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jensen is green or red?

devout ridge
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jensen is very much green

wraith steeple
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It was a snoozefest so you didn't miss much

devout ridge
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that special nvidia shade of green

fervent chasm
#

i forget the ceo names

devout ridge
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jensen huang is the nvidia ceo

fervent chasm
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is at least AMD still keeping some focus on gaming?

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instead of AI

wraith steeple
devout ridge
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how dumb is it to spend 240usd on 512gb of ddr4 optane for my server

devout ridge
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optane, not ram

fervent chasm
#

oh

devout ridge
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it’s somewhere between an ssd and ram

wraith steeple
fervent chasm
devout ridge
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lower capacity higher speed than an ssd, higher capacity lower speed than ram

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the big thing is the latency being lower than an SSD though, and more stable

edgy laurel
#

for a desktop?

devout ridge
#

nah, dell r630

edgy laurel
#

like a cache?

fervent chasm
#

whats the lifetime on those?

devout ridge
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read/write cache for a NAS

shell void
edgy laurel
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was going to say, for a modern NVMe desktop its completley pointless

shell void
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itll just go until the controller dies

devout ridge
#

hdd based NAS

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so there would be a speed improvement with the extra cache

fervent chasm
#

so how does it work, it keeps itself running 24/7?

#

or is it not like ram in that sense

shell void
#

it's a discontinued tech that i dont fully understand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_XPoint

3D XPoint (pronounced three-D cross point) is a discontinued non-volatile memory (NVM) technology developed jointly by Intel and Micron Technology. It was announced in July 2015 and was available on the open market under the brand name Optane (Intel) from April 2017 to July 2022. Bit storage is based on a change of bulk resistance, in conjunctio...

shell void
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you can use it as swap or as long term storage

fervent chasm
#

isnt this good? whyd it get discontinued

shell void
#

it was very expensive and niche

fervent chasm
devout ridge
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cheaper than ram, more expensive than ssds for the same capacity

shell void
fervent chasm
#

ah ok i thought there were tradeoffs or something

devout ridge
#

there are

shell void
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the only tradeoff was cost:quantity ratio

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it's just better than any other non-volatile storage medium in every measurable aspect

devout ridge
shell void
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we had god's storage medium and it was discontinued because it was unnecessarily performant and expensive

devout ridge
#

also could i use sata drives and a sas/sata card

shell void
fringe vigil
shell void
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i wish we couldve seen it continue scaling up

devout ridge
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it was designed for use with the EMC proprietary head unit, but i’ve heard of people use it as a jbod

#

also what kind of external mini sas is this

low sorrel
#

Oh wtf is shit kicking off in Venezuela again

devout ridge
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there’s a bunch of different flavors of that connector

fervent chasm
topaz veldt
topaz veldt
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at least it seems to be

devout ridge
#

also what's your thoughts on it working with truenas on an r630 without problems

topaz veldt
#

No issues

devout ridge
#

does it essentially just pass those SAS connectors to the drives and provide power?

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also what about using SATA drives

topaz veldt
#

so depending on the shelf it is likely a single connector in and a single connector out - they are meant to be daisychained to add shelves in series with A/B connections

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Then inside the shelf there are sas expanders

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Depending on the shelf and hba sata works fine

devout ridge
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shelf itself states SAS/SATA, so i would just need a card that can also do SAS/SATA?

topaz veldt
#

yes

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you may not actually be able to use both connectors in a single node config

devout ridge
#

if 6gb/s is my throughput limit, i'll be plenty happy

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the drives will be my bottleneck before then

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at least for now, since in only have 3 drives rn

topaz veldt
#

oh, yeah

#

its 4x 6 Gbps through one link

devout ridge
#

so 3GB/s or 24gbs, still more than enough

topaz veldt
#

yup

devout ridge
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especially given i only have a 10g uplink to my headswitch

topaz veldt
#

there is some stuff that can be offloaded but yeah

fringe vigil
devout ridge
#

I already have SAS-8643 LSI cards, could i use that with 8643 to 8088 passive cables and have it work or no

random flame
shell void
devout ridge
# topaz veldt yes

Perfect, then i don't buy new cards, i can just use 1 slot for the HBA, and leave the cover off the other slot and pass the cables through there

shell void
#

the newly revived XPS looks nice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJpprAzGGZM

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devout ridge
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since i have internal connector HBAs, not external

shell void
#

panther lake and tandem oled

devout ridge
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tiny bit jank, but will save me a lot of money

topaz veldt
random flame
# shell void it smokes TLC nand in random

Hmm... Thought it was said not to be as good in comparison, though mostly because NAND just got way faster during the time 3dXp and Optane were around still in some way.

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Though it still sucked that was the case because both were great for functioning as two memory types in servers and such.

topaz veldt
#

shit like this @devout ridge

devout ridge
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is that second one full height though?

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I only have 1 full height and 1 half height available in my R630, and the LSI card is full height

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Oh it can also be low profile, i found the exact thing you're looking at

topaz veldt
#

you can do a bunch of different things

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yup

devout ridge
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I'll get the cabling and what not for two ports of SAS 8088, in case that works, if not i'll just use 1

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Thank you as always Snail, you're always extremely helpful

young void
#

bless 🐌

devout ridge
#

BRO, the squeak of the arm of my chair triggered my tinnitus

fallow crown
#

Anyone else been getting added and DMed by many accounts asking why you don’t respond in a certain game? I don’t understand why anyone would bot accounts to do this.

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This is the 5th one

young void
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Id just ignore entirely

edgy laurel
#

no. dm's are turned off from anyone but friends

fallow crown
#

I would except a scam or a link but this is all they say

fervent chasm
#

maybe its like when you pick up a phone call from a scammer, if you do theyll know you respond and call more

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if you respond, they will know and try their scam or whatever against you

fallow crown
#

Mabye mabye

topaz veldt
#

maybe its like when you order take out and you show up and they give you the bag and you drive all the way home but your cedar plank salmon is missing

fallow crown
#

I guess I did well in overwatch

topaz veldt
#

shawtys like a melody in my head

devout ridge
#

i can either get raw caddies for 10usd each, or a caddy with a 600gb sas drive for 12usd each, what would yall choose

topaz veldt
#

For what device

devout ridge
#

the EMC JBOD

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they use stupid proprietary caddies with an interposer, but do support regular ole HDDs

frank zealot
#

10850k + 3080 Ti for 1900 bucks in 2026?

Pass the pipe bruh

vagrant cargo
#

Im not really paying much attention to tech news today also im off to bed its coming upto 2am and I accidentally woke up at 7am so im very tired

devout ridge
frank zealot
devout ridge
#

Yeah, the fact i'm only somewhat joking when saying that makes me sad

frank zealot
#

64gb used d4 should be less than 150

devout ridge
#

i can move from my old ddr4 server with 2x8 core cpus and 512gb of ddr3, to my r630 + jbod with 2x14 core cpus and 128gb of ddr4 for 200usd

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with room to expand to 12 additional drives

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speaking of, i need more drives

topaz veldt
devout ridge
topaz veldt
#

EMC can be a bitch with firmware/vendor l ock

devout ridge
#

EMC KTN-STL3 Expansion JBOD Disk Array 303-108-000E 15-bay SAS SATA NO HDD

topaz veldt
#

Are you going to use EMC disks?

devout ridge
#

Wasn't planning on it

topaz veldt
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Double check it'll work with non-EMC disks

devout ridge
#

reddit says it's very hit or miss with whether the drives work or not, and you need to find specific SATA interposers which don't seem common

#

i should probably look at other options

topaz veldt
#

yeah i would not fuck with EMC shelves

devout ridge
#

Yeah probably a good idea

vagrant cargo
#

Tbh there is some people in my town selling pcs with ram in them and for a price of 150 to 300 I could sell the other parts and make money back and keep the ram

#

Most of the pcs on there are 2 sticks of 2
16gb ram

turbid locust
#

AMD keynote please bless pepePray

topaz veldt
#

Alright Lisa Su lets see if 9950X3D2 is real

#

Gotta love a free loadout haul

turbid locust
topaz veldt
#

like think about it, what does CCD-centralized L3 cache on BOTH CCDs do?

low sorrel
#

are you going to buy it snail

turbid locust
#

Yeah I agree. They already said dual cache ccd was useless when they tried it with Zen 3 internally

topaz veldt
#

I'd buy a 9950X3D2 if it existed, but it won't

turbid locust
#

They said they saw virtually zero uplift especially in games

topaz veldt
#

Yeah I mean quite literally the only reason 9800X3D/9950X3D works well is because the cores are able to access the fast L3. If you could pin two games on two different CCDs, then sure... but like... lol

turbid locust
#

It makes no sense to exist from a business perspective too

topaz veldt
#

It'd make sense in some workstation/server use cases

#

if you can pin stuff

turbid locust
#

Why double up on your expensive CCDs for no gain

#

Like every X3D2 that existed could’ve been a 9950X3D and a 9800X3D

#

Business 101 tells you that ain’t a good deal lmao

low sorrel
turbid locust
#

Nobody is paying that let’s be real

#

$1200 for a cpu?

low sorrel
#

@topaz veldt would

turbid locust
#

I feel like he wouldn’t

topaz veldt
#

At that price I'd want to see something tangible

#

because the resale would blow

turbid locust
#

I feel like you go threadripper atp

topaz veldt
#

I have like... oodles of $'s in PCs but they are all semi wise from a money loss perspective

low sorrel
#

I don't think I've seen this error before

turbid locust
#

Borked

topaz veldt
#

MSI, figures

turbid locust
#

MSI is so weird man

#

they’ll make a $600 pile of shit and then release a $200 banger

low sorrel
#

works now 🤷‍♂️

#

whens the amd keynote?

turbid locust
#

Supposedly now

#

their stream is just playing this generic ass hold music type shit

topaz veldt
#

Its now but waiting

#

the music was AI generated with a 9070 XT turd

turbid locust
#

This feels like a satire South Park commercial

topaz veldt
#

rofl

turbid locust
#

who

topaz veldt
#

GARY SHAPIRO

#

Its GARY SHAPIRO MAC

turbid locust
#

who

topaz veldt
turbid locust
#

I mean yeah I’m lookin at em

topaz veldt
#

Thats Gary

turbid locust
#

yeah who is that what does he do

#

Where is mommy

hoary hatch
#

Who knew trying to pick a wedding venue was going to be the most stressful decision of my entire life

topaz veldt
turbid locust
#

LISAAAAA

topaz veldt
#

Ain't a lotta boys named Gary these days

hoary hatch
turbid locust
#

AI

topaz veldt
turbid locust
#

We made it about 2 mins before AI

hoary hatch
#

Already made a deposit without telling me smh

hoary hatch
turbid locust
#

did they put this guy up here just to glaze Lisa for a bit while she finished getting ready

topaz veldt
turbid locust
#

RIP

hoary hatch
topaz veldt
hoary hatch
#

Actually taco bell is expensive

#

We will be eating the clearance meat from a Kroger

topaz veldt
#

oof

turbid locust
#

Odds on literally any consumer hardware being mentioned here

edgy laurel
#

zero gravity then immediately show gravity at work

turbid locust
#

eyy eye

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LOL BRO

#

I swear to god those cars just merged into each other

#

oh god Gary is back

#

LISA MOMMY

turbid locust
#

aw she mentioned us guys

#

ffs

edgy laurel
#

oh, is that what its all about?

k bai

topaz veldt
#

AMD AI

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"40% as good at 85% of the price"

turbid locust
#

Yotta flop

shell void
#

mother lisa has arrived

turbid locust
#

I think this is deadass just 100% AI

shell void
#

that’s the primary focus

#

it’s probably gonna be 3/4 enterprise AI and 1/4 consumer cpus at the end

turbid locust
#

Wake me up in 30mins

shell void
#

listen to mother

topaz veldt
brisk jolt
#

i clicked onto the livestream just to see AI, they changed slide and again, about AI
GODDAMN

fringe vigil
topaz veldt
#

AMD AI factory is 2,000,000,000 9020 XTs

shell void
#

AIIIIII

edgy laurel
#

@fringe vigil who is that

vestal granite
fringe vigil
#

Amd owner

vestal granite
#

and therefore it is good to eat

shell void
#

the chief sloperator himself

hoary hatch
shell void
#

open ai ceo on stage with lisa right now

pure garnet
#

did they announce 400mhz yet

hoary hatch
#

Ohhhhhhh Samuel alternative man

shell void
#

for ai

hoary hatch
#

That seems like a bit much

heavy spire
#

Consumers watching the consumer electronics show definitely need a Helios AI rack in our living room PES_LookCoffee

shell void
#

these guys want us to interact with models literally all day every day for every query and every task

#

to justify their fraudulent investments

slim pebble
#

Fuck them, I hope their investments all bust so that we can afford computers again.

turbid locust
#

do you guys think there’s a point where nobody knows how to do anything anymore cause we just prompt it

slim pebble
#

The bubble can’t keep this up forever with no earnings to back it up.

slim pebble
heavy spire
#

Consumer AI is just another data gathering layer hidden behind seemingly useful tools for the big corpos anyways PES_LookCoffee

turbid locust
#

I feel like they don’t mention shit about consumer stuff tn

#

I think they talk about it tomorrow lol

edgy laurel
#

smallest consumer base at this point

vagrant cargo
#

Some 4k 32 inch mini led monitors are slowly popping up apparently

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The ktc one ive heard sbout slightly seems great

mild sentinel
shell void
#

it has a glossy finish as well, pretty cool

vagrant cargo
#

No can you link me to it

shell void
vagrant cargo
#

I think thats what I heard

edgy laurel
vagrant cargo
shell void
#

nope

vagrant cargo
#

Hopefully this time msi doesnt butcher the release

turbid locust
#

This dual mode shit can fuck off ngl

#

feels like cope

vagrant cargo
#

I cancelled the one that had for 27 inch last year that release was so dam baf

shell void
vagrant cargo
#

Tbh its handy

edgy laurel
#

UHBR13.5, always gotta cheap out somewhere

topaz veldt
#

@low sorrel

turbid locust
#

I feel like I’d rather not make my resolution look dogshit for some hz

mild sentinel
# shell void

the question is....which gpu can fully utilize 5k 165 at native tho

low sorrel
topaz veldt
turbid locust
shell void
#

i could probably play wizard101 at 8K 480fps

edgy laurel
vagrant cargo
#

Apparently ktc has the M32P11 apparently

heavy spire
#

5k is like 70% something more pixels compared to 4k right?

shell void
#

yeh it's 1.77x

vagrant cargo
#

Tbh ive set Gemini to tommorow give me a update sbout 32 inch monitors

edgy laurel
vagrant cargo
#

Wait if its 5k wont thst push the price to at least 800 or above?

shell void
#

probably

vagrant cargo
#

I would say whats next 8k but thats alrdy been shown off i think

#

By samsung

mild sentinel
shell void
#

samsung has some 32" 6K 165Hz monitors this year too

#

LCD only sadly

edgy laurel
shell void
#

over an hour in and we're still talking about slop

#

itll be max troll if 9850X3D isnt even in this livestream

vagrant cargo
#

This is what Gemini has for me so far

#

That skysight ai sounds interesting to me

shell void
#

speak of the slop

heavy spire
vagrant cargo
#

Tbh I mostly use Gemini for random stuff mostly about train times and stuff , sometimes if there id s big tech shoe I use it to give me tabs

turbid locust
vagrant cargo
#

Show *

shell void
heavy spire
#

Every GB counts

turbid locust
mild sentinel
shell void
#

35GB/s write if youre lucky enough to get a chip that can do 2200FCLK 🔥

#

bleeding edge tech

turbid locust
#

I’m about to fight my toughest battle soon and learn resistance tuning

vagrant cargo
#

I should go to bed now anyways its 3:18am,

shell void
#

im more curious about strix point in AM5

slim pebble
turbid locust
shell void
#

idek

turbid locust
#

I give so little fucks about NVL

shell void
#

youve become the no.1 intel hater

#

imma have zen 6 and nova lake

#

my 9800X3D will probably just sit on my desk doing nothing until the end of time unless a friend wants to buy it

turbid locust
#

I might get nova after

shell void
#

WOAH IT'S PC TIME

turbid locust
#

Computer mentioned

slim pebble
#

My 9950X3D will go into the kid’s PC, I’m going NVL.

shell void
#

false alarm this is Ryzen AI 9 HX 470

heavy spire
#

More AI

turbid locust
#

not Microsoft glaze

edgy laurel
turbid locust
#

My main problem with AI is that you can’t talk to it like a human being

#

I can’t be like “AI where the fuck is that one email with the thing I was looking at” you gotta be all formal and proper

#

DESKTOP

mild sentinel
#

dam

shell void
#

yeah Ryzen AI 9 HX 470 which is just the HX370 refreshed

#

same chip as what came out in 2024

turbid locust
#

she said desktop

#

where the desktop

edgy laurel
mild sentinel
turbid locust
heavy spire
#

"RDNA 5 peepopause .... RDNA 3.5 Sadge "

shell void
#

now back to software

hoary hatch
shell void
#

XD

turbid locust
#

wow lit I love saying desktop and not showing desktop chip

#

oh wow another AI corpo rat

mild sentinel
#

back to ai 👏

shell void
#

"hey guys we're relaunching our 2 year old laptop CPUs"
"okay now back to ai software talk"

#

holy slop

turbid locust
slim pebble
#

More AIAIAIAI

floral spear
#

I don't know how to read is this good

turbid locust
#

Back to scrolling Instagram

slim pebble
#

When will this AI bubble pop please?

floral spear
shell void
#

man at least intel's keynote actually talked about innovative new flagship laptop cpus and gaming

#

amd's keynote has just been inviting random techbro ceos to yap about how ai is important

slim pebble
floral spear
mild sentinel
#

what the hell is liquid about? never heard of it

floral spear
#

Like solid but hotter

hoary hatch
#

89 AI mentions

shell void
#

i wonder if lisa is tired of this slop too but has to smile for the money

hoary hatch
#

Lisa just walk off the stage and end it

#

No don't ask him a fucking question

shell void
#

this is easily the worst AMD keynote of all time

vagrant cargo
hoary hatch
#

AI has me missing blockchain

vagrant cargo
#

My dream is slowly becoming real

turbid locust
#

excel jumpscare

vagrant cargo
#

Hmmm I wonder if that mesh thing could be applied to whole side panel instead of glass with yhe lights and leds? That be great

hoary hatch
shell void
#

genuinely falling asleep

turbid locust
#

wait are we actually promoting sending an AI bot to do your meetings for you

hoary hatch
#

Sorry but every demo spreadsheet is the most pointless looking non real shit I've seen

shell void
#

i think this just shows that we're not getting consumer hardware in major keynotes anymore

#

theyll just be blog posts or techtuber sponsored videos

mild sentinel
#

yes yes go away no more ai pls

turbid locust
#

AI MAX

#

GAMING MENTIONED

hoary hatch
shell void
#

yeah intel's note was a lot better than this

hoary hatch
#

It's just strix halo again

low sorrel
hoary hatch
#

Why are we reannouncing products

turbid locust
heavy spire
#

I havent even watched the intel one and I know its better

shell void
#

intel showed the best consumer laptop cpus made with the most advanced american process node

#

lisa has done nothing but invite aibros on stage and relaunch 2 year old cpus

#

it's not even close, intel's was a lot better

turbid locust
#

fair

#

the gaming handheld stuff Intel teased was kinda cool

vagrant cargo
#

Im gonna go to bed and wake up to tons of new monitors and stuff and cases ah well thats gonns be great

turbid locust
#

bro what a blue ball

#

“I am pleased to announce, new Ryzen… AI…”

vagrant cargo
turbid locust
#

she paused and I genuinely thought it was the 9850X3D lmao

mild sentinel
#

dgx spark but AMD?

shell void
#

i see no point in high end lcd monitors if not 5K

#

they just get spanked by 4K240 OLED

vagrant cargo
#

Tbh the ktc one interests me , and tbh I kind of wish msi had the monitor the 4k mini led one st 32 inch in black

#

Im not a fan of all white monitors tbh

heavy spire
#

Need more microLed progress

turbid locust
#

GAMING

mild sentinel
#

gaMiNG

low sorrel
#

GAMINGGGG

turbid locust
#

I could never go to CES I would cause a ruckus

mild sentinel
#

AI 🙏

turbid locust
#

AI FUCK

low sorrel
#

Duck

shell void
#

they keep baiting the idea of talking about gaming

mild sentinel
#

what the hell

turbid locust
#

they pretend they’re gonna talk about something else and it’s still fucking AI 😭

#

I need an AI count

#

It’s gotta be in the thousands between Nvidia, Intel, and AMD

#

it’s been over an hour how long do they even have left

hoary hatch
#

Who is this lady

#

What is this company

mild sentinel
shell void
#

what the hell is shawty yapping about

hoary hatch
floral spear
#

Funny

floral spear
#

Iwas going to grab a 2 TB Drive

#

because I want to do more stuff

hoary hatch
floral spear
#

Only to be thwarted by higher prices

young void
mild sentinel
#

gamers? 🤔

low sorrel
hoary hatch
#

I'm convinced half of the ram/SSD price complainers are those "forever upgraders" and were never going to upgrade anyway

hoary hatch
#

I didn't prep enough alcohol for these keynotes

shell void
#

i turned the volume down and stopped listening

young void
#

Worldss!!! XD

brisk jolt
#

this is unbearable

floral spear
ripe needle
#

Hrllo

#

Hello worm

#

The advice guy

hoary hatch
young void
#

So dramatics lol

#

"In your minds eyeee" what a quote

mild sentinel
#

yes go go go away 🙏

shell void
#

@turbid locust @edgy laurel @topaz veldt

#

up to 8% faster, but on average 3% faster XDDD

heavy spire
#

Massive gains

brisk jolt
#

zen +5% +1%

shell void
clear juniper
#

I got my brother a reference 7900xt and with a -100 under volt and a plus 10 on power it goes from 2400mhz to 2700mhz and even 2800mhz at times

turbid locust
#

I mean that’s exactly what we were expecting though

shell void
#

yeah it's bang on

turbid locust
#

9800X3DKS ahh chip

shell void
#

up to 7%, usually less

turbid locust
#

It’ll bench better so enthusiasts will be all over it

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I can’t wait for it to have literally zero difference otherwise though lol

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40% more power for 3% more performance anyone?

mild sentinel
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now they flexing robots? sadlinus

turbid locust
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9850X3D is 100000% not getting mentioned lmao

mild sentinel
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her presentation time running out right?

edgy laurel
turbid locust
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Some random blog Michael found

edgy laurel
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def looks like an official slide

slim pebble
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New Aorus dumbbell 5090

edgy laurel
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that looks terrible

turbid locust
mild sentinel
turbid locust
edgy laurel
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No thats actually am embarrassing design

low sorrel
slim pebble
edgy laurel
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like a bloody hoverboard

heavy spire