tech-chat-2

[edgy laurel]

meanwhile this angry old guy was yelling at some best buy employee about the price of something with his printed out page from the website

ya those are pretty popular on /r/sffpc

can get stubby's on amazon

[frank zealot]

Go to the service desk and match. Done.

[pure garnet]

yeah the geek squad dude was relieved i actually knew my icloud password to reset the ipad i traded in

quite the spread at retail

[devout ridge]

we give our cashiers a lot of leniency on how they choose to fix a problem, so how nice you are matters a lot

[steel stream]

wdym the retail worker isn't meant to fufill my every whim

[devout ridge]

if you’re an asshole, chances are you’re gonna get the bare minimum, policy following solution, if you’re nice, you’re far more likely to end up getting free stuff

[edgy laurel]

I was real nice and didn't get a free LG G5.

what the fuck

[devout ridge]

well i work grocery store retail, not computer shop retail

“free stuff” for me is like a free thing of blueberries

[pure garnet]

back when my mom worked there we used to negotiate on open box tvs

[pallid marsh]

He printed it out?...

[pure garnet]

so we usually got most of our tvs for <$100

[steel stream]

not nice enough apparently

[pure garnet]

this was pre oled though

pre 4k even

[steel stream]

Guilty is on the naughty list for sure

[frank zealot]

This pc at work is gross

[edgy laurel]

Man, the deal on something I wanted to get for my sister was too good.. then I realized it was Open Box and marked as "Good". I don't think I can do that for a gift lol

[devout ridge]

associate must have already met their limit of free monitors for the day

[steel stream]

what was the product?

[brave panther]

is that mold?

[devout ridge]

i need to get a pic of our POS computers, they have like an actual inch of dust on them

like zero exaggeration, a solid inch of dust

[frank zealot]

Probably glue and paper dust

[pallid marsh]

What item was it

[edgy laurel]

I'm also learning that Cadillac is actually building the $400k Celestiq

https://www.cadillac.com/electric/celestiq

hand built, starting in the "low-$400k's"

[steel stream]

woah that roof glass is weird

[pallid marsh]

It's ugly

[edgy laurel]

you can do some weird stuff

[steel stream]

if I can't play Tic tac toe on my roof glass I don't want it

[edgy laurel]

if they can do that, should be able to make it a "display" of sorts

worlds first "doom runs on my sunroof" car?

[edgy laurel]

Yeah, I don't know why all the colors are these bright versions. doesn't fit what the car is about, IMO, and cheapens it

[steel stream]

screw the G5 i want that

[pallid marsh]

Orange body Cadillac is certainly a choice

[edgy laurel]

there are apparently 90+ colors and all the ones chosen on this site are way too shouty

[steel stream]

that roof looks to have decent enough zones and control, essentially a black and white display

[pallid marsh]

Wait the rear isn't a bench seat it's a 4 seater car?!

[edgy laurel]

yes, pretty standard for high end sedans/suv's.

a bench seat is for the plebians

[pallid marsh]

I love bench seats

[edgy laurel]

rear of a Bentley Bentayga SUV

[frank zealot]

Jesus, companies are still updating this shit in 2025

[fringe vigil]

ATTENTION

[frank zealot]

Nobody cares jorj

[steel stream]

look at those glasses, god damn man

one big fuck you lol

[pallid marsh]

Truly a posh person car

[frank zealot]

Ford Lightning with the body hiding compartment

[pallid marsh]

4 person SUV is still baffling to me

[edgy laurel]

isn't that the Rivian that has that?

[frank zealot]

Ahhhh, yup

[pallid marsh]

Where do you guys find such skinny bodies to hide in the rivian cargo tunnel

[frank zealot]

I've seen people climb in

[edgy laurel]

there are some really bad taste jokes to made there

anyway

[pallid marsh]

Rivian trucks need bigger beds

[frank zealot]

I'll hide something in your cargo tunnel

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-any-haircut-recommendations-low-taper-fade-you-know-what-else-is-massive-gif-3708438262570242561

[frank zealot]

Besides, once it's just a body, it doesn't have to stay in one piece

[pallid marsh]

665 HP they really should add 1 more to it after all it cost $400k

[frank zealot]

holy shit:

how do these people remember to freaking breathe

[pallid marsh]

That's impressive how badly they ruined the socket

[frank zealot]

I didn't know a socket cover would fit UNDER the arm

part of me wants to try to do it on video

I have a dead ass dead LGA1700 box here that's out of warranty

[pallid marsh]

Mattress firm

[brave panther]

It can be saved by completely replacing the socket

[pallid marsh]

Hey maybe they are not important pins!

[topaz veldt]

It can be saved with some wood screws

[frank zealot]

which probably costs more than replacing the board

Huh, I just removed a M.2 standoff from a PC, and it was just press-fit into the PCB. not screwed in at all.

That seems like a fair bit of stress on the substrate, but who knows

[wraith steeple]

[floral spear]

Is this to put your golf bags in or what

[frank zealot]

Skiis or whatever.

[floral spear]

Or your airsoft guns

[edgy laurel]

whatever you can fit

its just open storage space

[frank zealot]

it's for things you don't want to leave in the back of a truck. Those doors lock.

[floral spear]

Fair enough if I owned a rivian I'll probably just have sodas there

Like 3d print a soda container so I can just pull it out

[regal wigeon]

Is it possible to get a 25ft hdmi 2.1 cable that’s stable for 4k@120hz? Every cable I have looked at has a good amount of bad reviews

[proven saddle]

Minor damage

[pallid marsh]

Kitchen

[floral spear]

Nice

[proven saddle]

Cartchen

corona still up?

And nice buffet

[frank zealot]

Optical might do it?

[edgy laurel]

reviews of various options after your googled for cables?

[pallid marsh]

Or keg

[proven saddle]

Beer?

[pallid marsh]

Idk

[proven saddle]

try it

[pallid marsh]

Me no have rivian

[pallid marsh]

Oh the handle says cold brew coffee

[proven saddle]

oh ok i tought beer

[edgy laurel]

rivian owner so of course its cold brew coffee

[proven saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/cup-of-coffee-gif-26386122

[fallow crown]

Secure boot was so smooth 😔

[proven saddle]

crunchy

[regal wigeon]

Can you rephrase the question? If you asking what the negatives review said they stated their scenes flickered or lost connection completely when using the full 4k 120

[edgy laurel]

probably not a good idea then

why optical cables exist

[frank zealot]

25'+ is tough for copper HDMI.
Go Fiber if you can

[fallow crown]

Why does it have to be so hard to uninstall obs-studio folder, vm folder, etc? Just give me access to delete them bro

[regal wigeon]

So something like this? https://www.sfcable.com/nema-l6-20p-usa-3-pin-plug-to-c13-sjt-power-cord-14-awg.html

[edgy laurel]

thats a weird optical HDMI cable

[frank zealot]

uhhhh that's an electrical cable

[regal wigeon]

Wrong link

[regal wigeon]

https://a.co/d/hUY9IwP

[fallow crown]

Still struggling to find the thermal pad size for the 2080 FE. The answers I have found are 0.5mm, 0.75mm, 1mm, 1.5mm and 2mm but there can’t be so much variation in sizes for one card right?

[edgy laurel]

there isn't one card, there are many

[frank zealot]

I wouldn't go for an alphabet soup brand, see if there are any that are reasonable names

[fallow crown]

But for the 2080 FE specifically

[frank zealot]

and one card probably uses more than one thickness

different components will be different heights

[fallow crown]

Yeah but 5 different sizes? That will be expensive

[edgy laurel]

welcome to keeping 6 year old GPU's working

[frank zealot]

you can just get .5, .75 and 2.
Double stack the .5 and .75 for 1 and 1.5

[fallow crown]

Can’t afford a new card when a GPU is $4000

[frank zealot]

bullshit

The only GPU that's 4K is a fucking ultra-luxury premium model of 5090

and even that is a MSRP of below 4K

[fallow crown]

Welcome to Norway

[frank zealot]

a 250$ B580 is faster than a 1080 TI

by a decent margin

[edgy laurel]

kr9469.00 for a 5070Ti

[fallow crown]

Still a decent card is around $600

[edgy laurel]

you're in Norway, use your native currency

[fallow crown]

Half the price of the pc

[edgy laurel]

or nothign makes sense

[frank zealot]

600 is a huuuuuuuge jump from fuckin' 4K

[fallow crown]

I was exaggerating

[frank zealot]

doing that in a situation like this only makes you sound petulant

[fallow crown]

[edgy laurel]

kr9469.00 for a 5070Ti, kr6599.00 for a 5070

[fallow crown]

I don’t have the money for a new card. Maintaining the 2080 is my only option right now

Also wish I bought ram earlier

[frank zealot]

part of me is torn:
Do I blow my newegg credits and get a 5080, since it sounds like we're about to get another GPU price spike bullshit

[indigo walrus]

Yes, but anything 4K 120Hz over ~15ft is venturing into "Active" Fiber Optic territory. I would only trust 25ft copper HDMI cables from reputable manufacturers who have some kind of warranty in case the cable fails.
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=44340

[fallow crown]

Kingston ValueRam 8gb ddr5 single stick is 2973nok

[frank zealot]

RAM is absolutely bullshit pricing everywhere

[pure garnet]

i probably would honestly

i expect very little stock of 60 series at launch

and not value pricing for it either

[frank zealot]

that's still over a year away, honestly

[fallow crown]

Cheapest dual 8gb ddr5 kit is 4090nok or about $400

[frank zealot]

which is some bullshit pricing, but it's gone stupid everywhere

[fallow crown]

I don’t understand how it’s this bad

[frank zealot]

the Fabs can only produce X wafers of silicon chips per month.

AI Data Centers are willing to pay 5-10x per wafer vs consumers.

AI Data Centers are getting the majority of the chips as a result

[fallow crown]

You don’t get RGB until you spend 8690kr or $860

[frank zealot]

Anything still trickling into the consumer market is skyrocketing in price due to a severe shortage

Thank OpenAI, Amazon, Google, and Meta for the bullshit

[heavy spire]

I should probably sell some of my kits

[pure garnet]

well also with ram they’re not going to expand capacity because they doubt demand will persist

[hoary hatch]

Send help

I am stuck in the mall and tipsy

[pure garnet]

why am i getting asrock mobo ads on my tiktok feed

[pallid marsh]

@911 we have a crazy drunk man attacking people at the mall his name is Carter and is wearing Intel merch

[pure garnet]

“it has the 4 of the dimm slots”

[indigo walrus]

Help is on the way. Stand by. Grab onto the nearest solid object.
https://tenor.com/view/beer-cheers-lets-party-happy-hour-lets-go-gif-16829944

[hoary hatch]

Holy 3d batman

[hoary hatch]

I've now lost my family

[fringe vigil]

yello

[brave panther]

depends on price of board

[brave panther]

booring ass livemixer
b650 my fav

[pure garnet]

i would pay more money to not own that

and i have a b850 mlg

[sturdy swift]

Sunset overdrive morherboard

[pure garnet]

at least the pcb isn’t all wack

[brave panther]

more for me

[pure garnet]

unlucky

[pallid marsh]

what's up with the bottom 8 pin connector

[pure garnet]

msi puts it on every board for no reason

it's a supplemental power that does nothing

it's even on the mpower for some reason

[pallid marsh]

Huh

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/motherboards/msi-x870-x870e-motherboards-have-an-extra-8-pin-pcie-power-connector-for-next-gen-gpus-unofficially-aimed-at-geforce-rtx-50-series 225w of slot power

[regal wigeon]

I really didn’t know what brand are reputable for HDMI cables so I didn’t know what to look for. So you would recommend this cable?

[indigo walrus]

Monoprice is usually okay, Club3D is highly regarded as one of the better brands for cables that need to meet standards or are otherwise unique in nature... like say longer length cables.

[pallid marsh]

What's Jakes favorite cable place

Infinite cables?

[indigo walrus]

I believe InfiniteCables, but I can't find any HDMI cables rated to do 120Hz on their site. (Or their product filter sucks.) That said, we buy Ethernet Cables from them regularly at work. Never had a bad cable from them yet in over $2000 worth of cables across a few hundred cables.

[fickle narwhal]

It’s for gpu’s no?

[pure garnet]

can you explain how the 1 x16 slot needs supplemental power when the 24 pin already delivers the 75w the slot can provide just fine

[topaz veldt]

My son is loving this egg game

[floral spear]

Boutta paly peak

[indigo walrus]

I don't know of any PCIe cards that take advantage of this yet, but this is what it's for.

• https://www.reddit.com/r/MSI_Gaming/comments/1iin3v2/x870e_pcie_power_what_is_this_for_its_like_an/
• https://www.corsair.com/ca/en/explorer/diy-builder/power-supply-units/what-is-the-extra-8-pin-connector-on-x870-and-z890-motherboards-for/

Essentially, the 8-pin connector adds 150W to what the PCIe slot is already rated for, equating to 225W all in. That’s not enough for the top-end graphics cards, or even the ones a few steps down from that. Such connectors have appeared on motherboards before, where they were used more for overclocking than trying to power graphics cards without additional connectors. It’s worth noting that your graphics card would need to support drawing this much power from the socket too, which is potentially limiting.

[pure garnet]

the mpower has 1x16 slot there's nothing to overload

it's just a goofy thing they added to their 800 series boards

i don't think the 50 series even pulls from the pcie slot

[indigo walrus]

As mentioned already... it's for future use, if it ever gets used. If no PCIe cards support this, it won't get used.

It’s worth noting that your graphics card would need to support drawing this much power from the socket too, which is potentially limiting.

[pure garnet]

yeah nvidia doesn't touch it

so if some noncompliant card comes out msi is ready i guess

[indigo walrus]

https://xkcd.com/927

xkcd: Standards

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

[pure garnet]

yeah basically

[low sorrel]

https://www.infinitecables.com/products/ultra-high-speed-hdmi-2-1-certified-8k-60hz-48gbps-uhd-hdr-cable-cl3

hdmi 2.1

[indigo walrus]

Oh nice, they just suck at marketing the cable - I'm too used to seeing something like "8k60, 4k120" in the title. Makes sense though - at the end of the day, it's less about the exact resolutions and more about whether or not a cable is "certified" to achieve a certain bandwidth at X length. I see they list this cable as 12gbps x 4, which gives us 48gbps total, which means it can handle "8k60, 4k120" or any other resolution that needs 48gbps.

[low sorrel]

yeah you just gotta hit the 8k fliter button instead of searching

they also have active hdmi 2.1 cables

goes up to 100 ft or something stupid like that

very cheap very cheap

[devout ridge]

infinitecables prices looked really competitive and i almost bought a bunch of stuff from them, then the shipping and fees doubled the price

went from like 55usd subtotal to like 120usd final

[low sorrel]

yikes

[indigo walrus]

Yeah if you're not in Canada, both their shipping and your government's import fees add up.

[devout ridge]

US east coast, it was bad

[indigo walrus]

We always place multiple hundred $ orders so shipping from Vancouver or Toronto to my island becomes free.

[devout ridge]

I fully understand the added fees are out of their control, but it really sucked

i was so happy with their prices prior to that

[fringe vigil]

i really really want this laptop

[karmic folio]

Buy it then

[fringe vigil]

you wanna give me the dollas

[karmic folio]

i dont have that many dollas

[oak vector]

Hello

[brave panther]

in exchange of goods and or services?

[oak vector]

It’s giving macbook
But it looks nice

[fringe vigil]

[oak vector]

[karmic folio]

is it an oled screen doe

[karmic folio]

yea i went over that part but my mind lowkey ignored it

or i just didnt process it

[fringe vigil]

oled my guy

[devout ridge]

it feels weird seeing the 12v-2x6 connector like that

[young void]

Just in case or?

[brave panther]

install these instead

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/jesse-soldering-gif-23274902

Snails later that day^

[brave panther]

more like this

[random flame]

Reminds me of a certain argument I somehow dug up last night when looking to something else here for the hell of it.

[topaz veldt]

https://videocardz.com/newz/gigabyte-drops-thermal-gel-from-newer-rtx-5070-ti-windforce-model

People are commenting its a cost thing... nah, its cheaper to spray the whole thing with goop. Its an RMA thing - I have now serviced 2 5090 Masters with goop, its hell.

[fallow crown]

Incredible how there is 0 info online about the thermal pad sizes on my GPU 😢

[regal wigeon]

Took my awhile to find it on Amazon but this look valid? https://a.co/d/b9EvCIM also found one on infinite cables buts it’s pretty pricey. https://us.infinitecables.com/products/aoc-2-1-active-optical-cable-hdmi-armored-8k-60hz-uhd-silicon-jacket-cable?variant=49605837160761

[topaz veldt]

just use putty

[vestal raft]

do you know anytnhing about turnig HAGS off to stop freezing? thats what i did

[topaz veldt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nikz985ejUo

Goodness this is ugly

[fallow crown]

Putty?

[edgy laurel]

know what, exactly? You'll find its just default on for most people these days. We're long past when it was a "new" feature and caused some issues.

thermal putty

[vestal raft]

is it fine if i turn it off? i turned it off cause my games was freezing

[edgy laurel]

https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/en/tg-putty/s-tg-p-b-030 example

[topaz veldt]

thermal putty

[fallow crown]

Can't find any thermal putty in my country

[edgy laurel]

TG is german, right?

[fallow crown]

I'm not German

[smoky orbit]

Use a calliper and measure them?

[edgy laurel]

We know. you can't ship things from germany?

[fallow crown]

Put they have been in use for years and are squished

[smoky orbit]

The edges should be fine

[fallow crown]

Shipping and customs fee 💀

More than the product

Also most EU websites don't ship to Norway so not 100% if it's even possible

[edgy laurel]

https://www.proshop.no/Prosessor-kjoeler/Thermal-Grizzly-Putty-Advance-30g-Kjoelepasta/3352578

[fallow crown]

Ooof 330kr without shipping. We'll see

[smoky orbit]

Really? Weird af, aliexpress could also be an option

[fallow crown]

424kr total

[fallow crown]

Companies don't want to deal with extra fees since we are outside of the EU

[edgy laurel]

just saying.. beats having to deal with thermal pads

[fallow crown]

I'll check out aliexpress since I was already planning on ordering from there

[edgy laurel]

aliexpress.us has basic, advance and pro versions of the putty. not sure which URL you'd be using or how that works in other countries with aliexpress. never bought anything there and probably never will

[smoky orbit]

Norway is part of the EFTA tho so it’s weird the fees are that high

[fallow crown]

Do you know if 30g is enough for a whole GPU?

[edgy laurel]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809457997074.html

[edgy laurel]

absolutely no idea

[fallow crown]

I buy from ali all the time

[pure garnet]

30g is a lot

i would expect it to be plenty

[edgy laurel]

obviously @fallow crown don't use on the die

[smoky orbit]

(European free trade association)

[pure garnet]

oh and hey right in the listing

[fallow crown]

I have some arctic MX-6 I can use

[edgy laurel]

that or a PTM pad is fine

[pure garnet]

i would get ptm

might be mx5 but i swear the artic stuff is known for fast pump out

if you’re spending ~$50 on putty ptm is a no brainer to not need to take it apart again

[edgy laurel]

i feel like mx4 was fine, the mx6, but there was something wrong with mx5

i seem to recall something like that

[visual pagoda]

need recommendations for a 1440p 120-240hz OLED monitor. preferably between $400-500

[fallow crown]

1440p, 240hz OLED for 400-500?

[visual pagoda]

even if it's on sale, that works

[edgy laurel]

your only option https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=256001440&D=240000&P=7,9&X=0,50000

really just the AOC that everyone buys

[visual pagoda]

bc ive seen a couple but i dont know enough about them

[edgy laurel]

its gone on sale for $400 before. Best Buy in the US has the same display by some other model numebrs for even cheaper sometimes, but those are limited time sales

your options are VERY limited. really just that AOC, and its sub-models

[fallow crown]

I wish we had the same prices as the US for pc parts and displays

[cobalt frigate]

Currently a rapidly sinking popularity for the EU and the efta in norway.

[edgy laurel]

there you go, $399 US https://www.bestbuy.com/product/aoc-27-qd-oled-qhd-240hz-g-sync-compatible-03ms-gaming-monitor-black/JX9GSKP9H6/sku/6641760

@visual pagoda

[fallow crown]

When are the 6070 and 6090 coming out?

[edgy laurel]

this isn't a matter of recommendations. your available options list is basically like 1 or two nearly identical models from AOC if we're working inside your budget requirements

I'll never understand why people ask questions then seemingly get up and walk away

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/crystal-ball-crowley-david-tennant-good-omens-psychic-gif-3436909361193405344

[lusty tinsel]

Hey guys

Feeling kinda depressed about ram prices lol

[edgy laurel]

join the club

[slim pebble]

The question is have you had any Aorus Masters leak? Mine has not.

[lusty tinsel]

Even though I'm not building a pc

[steel stream]

I'm personally happy RAM prices went up

[fringe vigil]

yeah bro i know im looking for 64gb ram but the mfs are like 600 dollars

[fallow crown]

If I want to upgrade my CPU, I need a new motherboard and $800 in RAM

[lusty tinsel]

Hopefully this will pass like the gpu crypto thing

[visual pagoda]

no im still here. im just watching videos and looking into the monitor a little more

[steel stream]

the less noobs buying PCs the better

[pure garnet]

ram prices suck but like

that's not enough to make me not build a system

[fallow crown]

dual 8gb ddr5 is $400 here. Cheapest kit

[lusty tinsel]

Yeah, but less pcs equals less incentives for devs to do things for pc

[steel stream]

womp womp

also means I can sell all my spare kits for hella profit

[pure garnet]

judging by how much you're paying for putty it'd be cheaper for you to just move in general ngl

[edgy laurel]

AOC makes at least 4x 27" 1440p QD-OLED displays all with the same base specs but with different model numbers. They're all based on the same panel and at least 240Hz. One of them I beleive will do 280Hz but big deal.

[fallow crown]

The putty is $20 of aliexpress

[visual pagoda]

i getcha

[lusty tinsel]

I'm sad Crucial is dead

[topaz veldt]

no, but i only have one that has the stock paste

[cobalt frigate]

Is MLED worth looking into? Decent displays?

[edgy laurel]

why?

[fallow crown]

Huh

[pure garnet]

because now there isn't a cheap housebrand for mid tier products

[lusty tinsel]

I always thought it was good stuff. You'd know better

[pure garnet]

crucials memory was not great and none of their nvmes served much purpose beyond "being cheaper"

[edgy laurel]

they had two things going for them. a neat website to easily lookup laptop models and see what the RAM configuration was, and the MX500.

[cobalt frigate]

Thats a big market though, cheapest is best in most people’s eyes. And it drives the prices down

[edgy laurel]

and the latter doesn't really matter anymore

[fallow crown]

No one told me crucial died 😢

[lusty tinsel]

A lot of the RAM I've had has been made by Micron. I hope they're not exiting the consumer market entirely

[pure garnet]

if cheapest was best they weren't buying crucial anyway

[edgy laurel]

not following tech news i guess

[pure garnet]

they'd be buying dramless qlc crap

[fallow crown]

no

I got a curcial stick in my pc. Now selling as limited edition

[lusty tinsel]

I think ssds and gpus might spike next

[cobalt frigate]

Nvidia announced theyre cutting consumer gpu production by 30-40% next year iirc

[fallow crown]

[lusty tinsel]

Yeah, I heard that too. Idk if they were selling well anyway with how expensive they are

[random flame]

The only thing I'm pleased with over it is that now the triple A and some double A studios have lost one of their big excuses to put out unoptimized to even unplayable titles.

[lusty tinsel]

I'm not confident that they'll course correct even with the shortages

[pure garnet]

what is this reddit pipedream shit lmfao

[lusty tinsel]

But you're right

[cobalt frigate]

They were, better than 40 series, its just that you can sell the slop chips to the datacentres for a way bigger markup

[fallow crown]

Prebuilts are cheaper than 2 sticks of RAM

[pure garnet]

that's not how binning works at all

[lusty tinsel]

I built a pc for my friend with a 9950X3D and a 5080. That thing is a monster

Way out of my personal budget

[pure garnet]

the consumer cards are already the "slop" models

and even then there's still the rtx pros that share those dies

and there's not much point in stacking h200 dies you can't sell from no vram

[lusty tinsel]

Sure, they're consumer grade slop, but how much power do you realistically need to play games and render other stuff? Lol

[steel stream]

i need more power than my 5070 ti can give

[pure garnet]

yeah real

5090 would do me nice if i played newer games

my 9800x3d is still the bottleneck in ffxiv too

[steel stream]

I want a 5090 for cyberpunk and indiana jones

[random flame]

I'm... Honestly well served by my 7900 XT so far.

[lusty tinsel]

I'm still using a 3080 lol

[random flame]

I only have some reasons to upgrade my aging cpu and mobo, but that's it.

[pure garnet]

@turbid locust they restocked the mpower maybe we're not doomed

[cobalt frigate]

Hey, dont judge me for running gpu compression in the background constantly :(

[random flame]

Also, apparently my dad and I have decided to move ahead of the ram shortage and pick up a kit quick before they price out of range.

Unfortunately, it will... Not be a 48 gig kit like originally intended.

[hoary hatch]

Facebook marketplace

[cobalt frigate]

Balaclava and lockpick.

[lusty tinsel]

My 32GB kit should be fine for quite a while

[random flame]

And this mainly because:

• I have yet to max out 32 gigs of ram apparently.
• The price difference between preferred kits was so steep, it just couldn't be justified with little excuse to go higher right now.

[pure garnet]

can't wait for the trend of people overspeccing memory for years to come bc of this scare

i'd go 64gb if we got 1r h32a sticks

[cobalt frigate]

Ive seen people try to fleece ddr4 on marketplace lol

[lusty tinsel]

Yeah, I think 32GB of 6000 CL30 is the sweet spot

[pure garnet]

but those haven't dropped yet so im not interested

[random flame]

What's funny is the pandemic technically did that, but moreso in the form of people just either getting a pc for the first time, getting their pcs upgraded if they had one, or going all in on the 30 series when it launched at the time the lockdowns started.

[pure garnet]

just get the cheapest 2x16 kit you can

[shell void]

there is H32M 1R, idk if therell be H32A

[random flame]

'Cause if you remember the aftermath after those shortages alleviated, the market... Crashed.

[pure garnet]

paying extra for cl is not worth

[pure garnet]

i thought i saw something about it but maybe it was h32m

[lusty tinsel]

I guess that's fair

[edgy laurel]

can you translate. there is like 4-5 people in this channel that know what this means (i'm not one of them)

[random flame]

And that was because of the oversupply, especially because everyone eventually got what they wanted or because the lockdowns were over, they were no longer interested if they didn't get anything during that time.

[topaz veldt]

32 M die, single rank

[shell void]

high speed 32GB dimms

[pure garnet]

rn 32gb sticks don't really go above 6400

[shell void]

the kit from v-color was 2x32 8000 and like $550 before the price jumps

[lusty tinsel]

My friend's kit went from $200-something to $740

[edgy laurel]

I still don't really understand what a rank is, never really mattered to me in the past. will have to google that sometime

[pure garnet]

dual rank doesn't oc as high

well, the imc won't handle it that high

[topaz veldt]

its how many chips there are

[young void]

In general use practice not super important but for our ram oc peeps ya know

[cobalt frigate]

653 usd, granted its 48gb

[shell void]

you dont really need to know any more than single rank dimms are a lot easier for your cpu to run at higher speeds

24GB was the limit for single rank ddr5 udimms until recently

[topaz veldt]

generally, single rank is more 'spensive

[shell void]

hynix put out 32GB single rank dimms right before the prices hiked

[topaz veldt]

it translates into server world - you can get 1R, 2R, and 4R

4R is cheaper, usually, but you can only have so many ranks per channel

[frail flint]

Im trying to help my friend fix some internet issues hes been having, i had him write up some details
"I'm experiencing tech issues, specifically related to my internet. I'm using the MSI B550 MAG Tomahawk MAX WIFI. My built in Wifi, Wifi Adapter, and Ethernet all have the issue of cutting out after a seemingly random amount of time. Sometimes they stay connected for 12 or more hours, sometimes less than 12 seconds. I've tried countless fixes along the lines of disabling IPv6 and allowing the pc to turn it off. These issues were NOT present at the tech guy I went to earlier today and his connection with my MOBO and Ethernet cable were perfectly fine. Any recommendations welcome. "

[pure garnet]

so an entirely different ic that's been out for years

also cudimms

[random flame]

By the buy, this was the ram kit I ended up settling on. If there was better (close to that price), I might've already missed it per chance.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TQjRsY/crucial-pro-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6400-cl38-memory-cp2k16g64c38u5b

[cobalt frigate]

Mb ruler, still cheaper than the people trying to fleece 6000mt/s cl30 32gb kits though

[pure garnet]

if you have 32gb of ram now why are you buying another 32gb kit?

[shell void]

lol i cant link the memory kit because it has that in it

[topaz veldt]

why not?

[pure garnet]

oh yeah floppa ran into that

[shell void]

the 2x32 8000cl40 1.35v H32M v-color kit is in stock for $765 at newegg right now which is actually a good price in the current market

[lusty tinsel]

I kinda want more ram now that it's super expensive lol

[shell void]

because other brands want like $700 for dual rank adie which is just worse

[pure garnet]

everyone loves the V-COLOR OLED XFinity+ DDR5 64GB (2x32GB) 8000MHz CL40 1.35V SK Hynix IC RGB Gaming Desktop Memory with Built-in OLED Display, Black, for AMD EXPO (OTMXFAL3280840KWK)

[cobalt frigate]

Buy high, sell low✅

[fringe vigil]

snail have they added any expansions to arc or enemys

[pure garnet]

oled ram still pisses me off

[random flame]

What do ya think, @merry stirrup?
You think this might be a good kit to go with?

[pure garnet]

my board had 4 bios updates to support it

[cobalt frigate]

The what now

[random flame]

Those... Confuse me.

[pure garnet]

nevermind, 3 of them

[indigo walrus]

K i'm sorry but what? "OLED" ? "Xfinity" ? Neither of those things means anything when it comes to RAM, especially because using OLED diodes would be needlessly expensive, and Xfinity is a Comcast brand. Marketing!

[lusty tinsel]

I just bought my first OLED monitor. It comes tomorrow. Didn't realize what I was missing until I tried one out.

[random flame]

Like... We have mini LEDs and micro LEDs*, so like... Why even make those?

[pure garnet]

we can't post the link

the filter gates it

[indigo walrus]

I'm aware. Unfortunate that Newegg uses /p/ followed by 0RN in their URLs. 🤷

[pure garnet]

no v-color oled xfinity for you then

[cobalt frigate]

Some people enjoy a little screen on the ram to tell them the voltages and speeds lol

[shell void]

somehow the kit is actually very fairly priced in current market conditions

[pure garnet]

https://www.newegg.com/v-color-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr5-6000-pc5-48000-cas-latency-cl42-memory-desktop-memory/p/

0RN-00MB-000U5

[shell void]

gskill and other brands want $700 for much worse 2x32 kits

[random flame]

So basically this.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/new-ddr5-module-features-an-oled-display-you-probably-wont-see-after-installation-shows-off-rams-specs-and-vitals

[shell void]

$765 for the best 2x32 bin on the market isnt bad, especially with oled displays on the heatspreaders for whatever reason

[pure garnet]

just gotta play lego connect with the link

[pure garnet]

mfw my ram gets burn in

[random flame]

They could've just used a segment display via mini LEDs, man.

[shell void]

yeah but this is more funny

[indigo walrus]

Yeah yeah I know. I just don't see why that screen needs to be OLED. They could easily use a backlit e-Ink screen, saving a couple bucks per module. But sure, use OLED I guess. 😄

[pure garnet]

its ram why does it need a display

[random flame]

Ikr?

[pure garnet]

i'd imagine the oled probably runs cooler

[indigo walrus]

Nope. e-Ink uses next to no power. Actually, it uses no power when not being updated.

[random flame]

Also mirasol displays.

And those could only be tiny too and not as tempurature sensitive as e-ink/e-paper.

[pure garnet]

size maybe then is my other guess

[shell void]

if it uses chip temp sensors then it's super based, but it's probably just the spd

[cobalt frigate]

I would assume its for bragging rights

[random flame]

Oh, it is purely for bragging rights, just the same as having a 144 Hz. IPS screen on a cpu AiO block.

Or a display on your psu.

Or even screens for fan hubs.

[cobalt frigate]

Even more screens to put more windows on

[random flame]

Which is ironic now. Lol.

[lusty tinsel]

I'm excited to have 3 monitors at my home setup finally

[fringe vigil]

this is actually a crazy price for all the far crys

[shell void]

cpu waterblock with screen, fans with screens, ram with screens, motherboard with screens, graphics card with screens, power supply with screens, case with screens

holy optimal

[pure garnet]

hey michael my favorite post code is back

[random flame]

Haven't seen a case with a screen in a while ever being sold by anyone. Honestly something I kinda wish would happen again and not requiring DIY to do it.

[edgy laurel]

those little 1" or smaller oleds are dirt cheap. used for homebrew projects all the time and not what you'd call "high quality". look for 1" OLED's on aliexpress, you'll see. in bulk they're going to be less than $1

[random flame]

And also is a full screen, not some side of the case with a strip-sized screen.

[cobalt frigate]

Buying that for my brother rn, so he can play the peak

[shell void]

your wish is MSI's command

[fringe vigil]

w brother

[shell void]

the whole front of the case is a display

[hoary hatch]

What the

[pure garnet]

8000cl32 was too much for my random a die

[random flame]

Bruuuuhhh, why didn't they do the side?
That's such a dumb angle to look at it from on the desk.

[shell void]

Ab!!!!!

[pure garnet]

even on a 2 dimm board it gets me

[shell void]

it's a sign to stop using that shitty 7800x3d

[pure garnet]

are we getting zen 5 apus ever

[cobalt frigate]

I use the cheapo backlit e-ink ones instead, i just prefer the look, and its usually a bit more wear resistant without an enclosure

[shell void]

supposedly support for strix point is in agesa

the last round of apus were announced at ces so maybe we'll hear something then

[steel stream]

damn converted hex

that's cool

[topaz veldt]

ASUS Strix

[pure garnet]

okay i threw more voltage at the problem and it booted

[topaz veldt]

when in doubt zap it out

[pure garnet]

vdd can always go up in this market

[topaz veldt]

there is no risk to dimms

[cobalt frigate]

Me when differential amplifiers:

[topaz veldt]

Apparently the 296 is a death trap

[pure garnet]

do i waste time with this or do gdm off

[hot stratus]

Well going at those speeds of course

Dude was going like atleast 120 MPH

[edgy laurel]

This looks like an AI bot

[hot stratus]

Cry about it

[edgy laurel]

from post history. random, completely off topic posts, news story links with no context.

[fringe vigil]

lool

[pure garnet]

i need more vdd

[topaz veldt]

120 mph is nothing in a Ferrari, but apparently 296 w/ traction control turned off is a mess

[hoary hatch]

They are an AI bot

[hot stratus]

Yep ordered hundred of humane pins trying to keep my brothers alive

[edgy laurel]

<@&750150305383186585> please ban

[hot stratus]

Well if I do get banned by this guy it was nice knowing y'all

[steel stream]

you ordered hundreds?

[hoary hatch]

I wish you a happy banishment

[pure garnet]

is that the nothing ever happens guy in your banner

[hoary hatch]

Or maybe your AI friends will get rid of you for us

[pure garnet]

okay this is boring im shutting gdm off

[hot stratus]

My only ai friends sit dead on my desk 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

From rug pulls

[hoary hatch]

You don't confide in ChatGPT for every decision?

[hot stratus]

Oh I do that's why I have been using chatgpt as a browser for like over a year

Starting with 4o

[random flame]

That reminds me again that I had downloaded Waterfox, yet still have yet to install it.

[steel stream]

no offense but you are a moron

[hot stratus]

Me?

I'm aware

[random flame]

I know. You don't have to remind me.

[steel stream]

not you

[random flame]

Too late.

[cobalt frigate]

💔

[pure garnet]

i don’t think gdm off is happening

rover

[hoary hatch]

This is an occasion to mean offense

[steel stream]

true

[wraith steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/burnt-peanut-side-eye-the-burnt-peanut-gif-6339277251445282356

Came back from a quick eat before work. What did I just come back to?

[pure garnet]

okay i guess i need godbins

throwing these sticks away fr

[topaz veldt]

vsoc way too high

[pure garnet]

oh i forgot to fix it

[topaz veldt]

vddp could be 1.10-1.15

but i am running 8000 CL32 with like 1.6v

[pure garnet]

this 1.65v vdd on a 6000cl30 kit

so i probably just have to up in tcl

[topaz veldt]

prob

[pure garnet]

i’ll try 34

i did cl38 at 1.45v for about 15h of karhu so it’s just that one timing i’m messing with

yeah cl 34 is living a lot longer

[wraith steeple]

I don't get this whole VTer thing but Burnt Peanut is oddly amusing

[edgy laurel]

He's a P-Tuber! 🤣

[dapper junco]

a boiled peanut

[wraith steeple]

https://youtu.be/ZnaxiZIqlcg?si=4WmuMjK3RTeCpnbS

Watching this ATM

[fringe vigil]

v tuber

[wraith steeple]

Or PeanuTuber

Tough crowd

[young void]

XD

[edgy laurel]

it was an entertaining interview, primarily because he's entertaining

[devout ridge]

what would be the best way to clean caked in dirt from the lightning port of an iphone

it’s impeding cables from full seating and causes some intermittent connection issues

[oak vector]

lmao
you and I both haha

[young void]

Plastic/wooden toothpick, if the tip becomes dull or bends use a new one

[edgy laurel]

ton of videos showing it, but its pretty self explanatory

[young void]

Can also get alittle iso propyl 90%+ and shimmy some thin paper towel/napkins in (by using the toothpick tip)to clean residue. Just be sure it all drys before using and you get any paper debris that rips etc out

[oak vector]

wow my internet isnt garbage for once
a whole 20mbps today on download, and an epic 450kbps on the upload

[young void]

I remember getting 5mbps out at my folks farm some 8 years back, tough times

Trying to download a ps4 game took like 3 days and thats if no power surges xD
(Gets off grave shift to find the download stopped lmao)

[oak vector]

Im on mobile hotspot right now, as I don't have home internet, and dunno when I will get it haha

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/same-shit-different-day-same-shit-different-day-gif-6805163095898515815

[random flame]

That's the same speeds as the 4G+/5G around here somewhat.

Upload sucks on mobile around these parts.

[oak vector]

this is on 5g...
richest suburb in my city, yet if you live in a single story house, no reception
you get reception if you have a two/three story house and are on the top level haha

[random flame]

Meanwhile, the downlink is at least on part to adsl out here, which is honestly pretty doable.

[random flame]

... Dang.

[oak vector]

I quite literally have to tape my phone to a window for it to work, or go outside LOL

otherwise, whole house is a deadzone

[edgy laurel]

that sounds like 3rd world country shit

[oak vector]

it's australia

[edgy laurel]

do you live in alice springs or something?

[random flame]

That used to be the case for what I had been dealing with on my old phone before being forced to my current one.

[oak vector]

quote from one of my mates in another server
pretty much sums it up

[oak vector]

nope
about an hour out from Melbourne
our biggest city haha

[random flame]

Ooooof course you quote Name of all people...

[oak vector]

Look... Every now and then he'll say something relatively factual, presented in his own manner, but its true when you decipher it haha

[random flame]

Yes... And then everything else is pure trash that even he admits to having virtually no meaning other than to make people question what server they ended up in whenever he's been up for way longer than he can take physically.

Like it makes you question every time you see him talking to himself in chat why he's even doing so in the first place... And not while he's in bed, vocally or in his head, instead of in front of everyone, the digital equivalent of doing the same thing but in public.

[oak vector]

should just rename lounge to #names-yap-center lmao

[topaz veldt]

I keep seeing this video, it's a rusted watch repair, but I see pot roast in a crock pot lol

[edgy laurel]

love that channel

[random flame]

Barely recognizable as one. That is a ton of built up damage.

[edgy laurel]

is that the one that went through the palisades fire?

[oak vector]

lmao name was literally just talking about a guy repairing watches too haha

[random flame]

And he said it before Snail too, I noticed.

[oak vector]

I see it ngl
i can't decipher what's being roasted, but I see the vision

[devout ridge]

can i pour a bit of iso in the port and agitate it with the toothpick instead of the towel method?

i feel like that would do a better job of introducing iso to the dirt/hair

[young void]

No promises the fluid may travel elsewhere

But one can always try *

[devout ridge]

paper towel it is then

[young void]

Slow and steady, you got this

[devout ridge]

laptop has also been sitting propped open drying while i’ve been at work, so i’ll check and see if it has any stuck keys or any sign of damage

[young void]

Ive done my share of cleaning type c ports from kids food and misc debris lol

[devout ridge]

iphone is no longer flagging a liquid error when charging which is good

i’ve just had it in my pocket while at work and that seemed to have worked

i also took the tip of a paper napkin and got the majority of the liquid out when it happened

used several corners to get as much out as possible

[hoary hatch]

Highly recommend to not spill a full glass of tea over your laptop

[devout ridge]

IT WASNT INTENTIONAL

LEAVE ME ALONE

literally the only time i have ever spilled anything on any laptop i’ve ever owned

[oak vector]

😭

[shell void]

rip qd oled

[cobalt frigate]

Excited to see the projected panel lifespan

[merry stirrup]

(he got tea in his phone earlier)

[devout ridge]

pretty sure the dirt and shit was from before

getting tea in it didn’t help though

but yes i did douse my phone and laptop in sweet tea earlier

you can laugh now

[cobalt frigate]

Thin piece of ceramic probably, or other hard, non-conductive material

[devout ridge]

how often do people have thin pieces of ceramic

[pure garnet]

@merry stirrup

[cobalt frigate]

You dont have a thin piece of ceramic handy?

[fair wraith]

Is there any laptops that you know of with good reliability like thinkpads/lenovo but maybe some more power

[pure garnet]

the p series thinkpads

[fair wraith]

I keep seeing E series and carbon

[pure garnet]

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/c/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadp/

[wispy sequoia]

I just found a single 8gb 3200 stick of ram in a random box.
I feel like I struck gold

[fair wraith]

Kinda now I gotta sort through so many p series

[brisk jolt]

@pure garnet lowk ill try disabling ccd1 and trying again

[pure garnet]

worth a shot

[brisk jolt]

i dont think it’ll be stable but hopefully it makes it past the windows login

booting 7600 and barely 8000 is already better than the 9800xd not even booting 7200

could argue mobo but shit barely even did 7000

[fair wraith]

I can't find the option for building pc like configuring it

[edgy laurel]

the what now

[fair wraith]

Earlier I wasn't able to find the build your pc option on the listings of thinkpads where you configure your laptop specs

[brisk jolt]

tbh 6400 1:1 so far has had more stability than 8000 2:1 in terms of booting

[oak vector]

I finally got working internet yippee 🙏🙏
It’s not too bad 53/19 or whatever soooo that’s nice

Wayyyy better than my mobile hotspot

[slim pebble]

How does the speed compare? Latency and bandwidth?

[devout ridge]

had some sticky keys on the keyboard, syringe with 99% isopropyl worked really well

each key is actually surprisingly sealed off from the other keys

i could “fill” one key without any isopropyl being visible even in nearby keys

i then pressed the key down and the excess isopropyl spilled out, and i dabbed it up with a clean microfiber

[brisk jolt]

Booting 6400 C26 is honestly no problem but it just isnt stable- the loosest 8000 from Try It which is like C42 has like a 30% chance of even booting

[oak vector]

Lmao
If it works it works

[devout ridge]

it does indeed work

[brisk jolt]

I did try 6400 C30, its also a no go

Like maybe theres hope for either one if I disabled CCD1 effectively turning it into a 9800x3d

[oak vector]

3200 cl16 my beloved

[devout ridge]

had to do some keys a couple times to get it to be 100% clean feeling again, but overall very happy with the results

[slim pebble]

I ask bc I have 96GB of CL26, at some point I’m going to try C28 6400.

[devout ridge]

i’ll let it dry overnight and check again in the morning, but it should be good

[slim pebble]

Which is the best you can do with dual rank

[oak vector]

96gb ddr5 probably worth as much as my gpu cpu and mobo rn haha

[slim pebble]

I bought it for $400 something two months ago, definitely not kicking myself

[oak vector]

Hahahaha

[brisk jolt]

Could probably ask flops/mac/5nail instead of me Im just following and learning

[slim pebble]

The C30 96GB kits were 300 something, I overpaid for C26 by like $80 before the world blew up

[brisk jolt]

I’d say chances of that are low unless you are on like CU which I dont remember you having

[oak vector]

I reckon I could trade my whole pc except for the ram for the cost of 96gb ddr5 LOL

dare I say even including the 16GB 3200 kit

[slim pebble]

It can’t last forever. We are now in the scalping phase of this shitshow though, have you seen EBay?

[brisk jolt]

ngl I might go for a 270K

[oak vector]

Yes…
It’s painful

[brisk jolt]

Everywhere is an entire warzone rn for ram pricing

[pure garnet]

something sounds very wrong there

try reseating the dimms

[slim pebble]

I just sold a spare 64GB CL30 kit for like $250, right about what I bought it for plus shipping. I can safely say “fuck scalping”

[pure garnet]

8k is genuinely nothing for the mpower

[devout ridge]

the amount of dust and dirt in the charging port of my phone

[brisk jolt]

but shouldnt I be hitting IMC limits over it being the board

[pure garnet]

8000 also really shouldn't be a struggle on the cpu either though

[oak vector]

Hmm
Which cpu does have the best IMC

[pure garnet]

it's less effort than 6000

[pure garnet]

the ryzen 8000 apus or arrow lake

[devout ridge]

the board affects signal integrity, and signal integrity is important to just how far you can push the IMC

[slim pebble]

I’m really looking forward to seeing what the NVL IMC can do

[brisk jolt]

yeah but everytime I set to 8000 its like 50% chance of booting and another 50% chance of it just freezing immediately

[slim pebble]

What motherboard?

[brisk jolt]

mpower

[pure garnet]

the board does like 12k with 1 stick and 8400 was no trouble for people online

[brisk jolt]

ngl i rly doubt that reseating ram helps with anything its too much effort to open up the case

[gloomy vault]

what ram r u running

[burnt socket]

@brisk jolt time to ditch the time bomb attis 750r, should i get the rm850e as a replacement?

[brisk jolt]

just get anything at least a B

[pure garnet]

the rme is fine

if you can push the budget the rmx is better but

the rme is plenty fine

[burnt socket]

mmmm

[brisk jolt]

spl psu tier list

[burnt socket]

yes

[signal timber]

I need more ram

[slim pebble]

Just ride it out, it’ll be a bumpy few months.

[devout ridge]

a few months of no cat is pretty rough

having more ram makes it worth it tho

[oak vector]

makes sense

[signal timber]

But ram

I got 3 cats

[harsh thicket]

steal ram from schools

[signal timber]

They only have ddr3

[harsh thicket]

[brisk jolt]

the amount of scalping on the market goes hard

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-kamen-rider-evol-evol-black-hole-hell-bros-gif-11958384

[warm urchin]

car

[low sorrel]

@topaz veldt do you still need an industrial battery?

[neon token]

Nice flash drive from 2001

[coral tartan]

Read speed must go crazy

[neon token]

Read go vrrr

[low sorrel]

goop

[indigo tree]

It's a 4x speed drive

[neon token]

well more like brrr because it might as well be cold storage

[indigo tree]

Look at the capacity...

[neon token]

Sorry I mean 1990

(Idk when 1MB was standard)

[indigo tree]

You're pretty close

the drive is newer than the media, so it might be harder to place

[neon token]

USB wasn't super standard in '90. So I was thinking later 90's at worse

[indigo tree]

1987 was when the media started becoming capable of 1.44MB, The camera was released in 2002

[neon token]

Interesting. Wait, is it a USB Drive or is windows just reading it that way? 1.44 sounds like the exact capacity of Floppy

And the timeline works for that

[indigo tree]

Windows is just choosing to read it that way

lemme see what changing the drive letter does

[neon token]

I knew 1.44 was specific!

If you're using a USB Adapter, the adapter probably overrides it.

[indigo tree]

It's a camera, like I said

[coral tartan]

144 like the og worst quality on YouTube

[indigo tree]

Check out those speeds

It seems like one photo is always corupted. Might need to open my box of fresh floppies

[random flame]

This finisher is fitting... For the kind of situation this whole boom is gonna become eventually.

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-zeztz-baku-yorozu-zeztz-gravity-gif-15971869887181792390

This one as well, lol.

[neon token]

Hey back at my parents house where they're still using DSL it was a great option when our internet decided it wanted to download at 0.01Mbps that night

[fair wraith]

Is anyone here willing to help me work on finding a laptop that would work for what I want to do

[wraith steeple]

Big Blue had 2.88mb floppy drives too

[neon token]

144 I knew was specific to the standard tho.

[wraith steeple]

Though TBF 2.88mb was mostly an IBM thing. (Not sure of anyone else off the top of my head)

[fair wraith]

So uhhh

Lenovo or hp

[indigo tree]

Sort by price Ryzen Good luck

[fair wraith]

Makes so much sense

[indigo tree]

It doesnt matter

[neon token]

I vote neither. But I put Lenovo higher than HP (at least HP consumer)

[fair wraith]

Well many people have put hp and lenovo high

[neon token]

HP consumer can die in a whole. Esspecially cheap HP Consumer. Non repairable. Built to die. Overpriced as hecc most of the time

[low sorrel]

@steel stream what level are you in arc again

[fair wraith]

Some repairable some time there are good deals

What would you pick then

[indigo tree]

todo, find a way to not record sound to save disc space...

[oak vector]

Heya

[neon token]

I mean I don't buy for the brand, I would need to know alot more than given. Use case, price point, etc.

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-kamen-rider-evol-evol-black-hole-gif-11958266

[fair wraith]

Yeah obv

[neon token]

I mean like Frame.Work is a high rating from me, but that's a high price point (At least up front)

It also depends what you actually value from your device.

[fair wraith]

True

[random flame]

I just now noticed how both Evol and Zeztz have a similar color scheme going on with the effects being violet. That's actually interesting how much a brain cell most of those visual artists share, even when it's years apart between seasons.

[oak vector]

I’m considering getting a sub… but these mr4s are almost enough on their own lmao

Rn im just enjoying my own place hehehe

[neon token]

I mean I both would buy a Frame.Work and own a Galaxy Book 4 Edge just because my priorities (and sales prices) were at different places, lol. All about current market, needs, and goals

[fair wraith]

Yeah

My main needs are programming and gaming

But programming isn't a high requirement for specs compared to gaming

[neon token]

What games are you playing?

[fair wraith]

These 2 easy to run games one is for coding

More intensive games though

F125 trackmania destiny 2 warframe fortnite borderlands 4 maybe soon because I did pay a lot for it when it came out

[brisk jolt]

@pure garnet no luck on CCD1 disabled

[fair wraith]

I really just want to be able to play the games I play at the native resolution maybe 60-90 fps at high to maybe max settings?

But maybe just high to medium and later on I will get a better laptop because of money restrictions

@neon token

[neon token]

Those aren't crazy to run games. Tho I don't have an immediate specific recommendation without doing research (its 2am and I'm multitasking :P). I don't think you need much tbh.

[livid flame]

A 4050 laptop would play them

[fair wraith]

What about future software support?

[livid flame]

I don’t have a crystal ball for the future

In fact a 3050 would do them. Except borderlands 4, you need an actual gpu to play that

[fair wraith]

I mean in the future won't there be less updates for the older 40 series

For borderlands 4 definitely

[neon token]

I second this. 4050 should also be supported for a good while

40-series is only one gen behind. And unlike Team Red (my one butthurt with them right now), they tend to support their series for a good while

[fair wraith]

What about cpu?

[neon token]

(in fairness to AMD they're just not doing feature or game specific updates for the 6000 series, but im still salty)

Mid-Range Ryzen probably.

Or an Ultra/I-5? Should honestly be fine.

[fair wraith]

So I could probably find something more reliable that works because of lower spec requirements

My main concern is kind of a mix of battery life and fan noise

[neon token]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-ltt-linus-tech-tips-genius-smart-gif-11694548317892816010

I think there's a sweet spot in there somewhere. I'm not caught up on specific laptop models right now tho to give a sure fire recommendation

[fair wraith]

Would you know someone who could possibly know currently

The carbon is new for lenovo

Omnibook is mostly new for hp i'm guessing

[neon token]

I do not. I know the professional side of Laptops better than gaming. And I don't have the time required to do a deep dive right now.

(I hate gmaing laptops all together, but it sounds like the specs you'll prob want).

[fair wraith]

Mhm

I've thought about cpus differently because I always thought more cores and threads is great

It is mostly for bechmarks and proccessing things but not the same for gaming at a certain amount of cores and threads especially for laptops

[neon token]

Correct. Most games will only benifiet from a certain number of cores/thread. Honestly for laptops 6C/12T is a nice sweet spot (esspecially for the games you mentioned).

[fair wraith]

Maybe I could do just 2 more cores if I find a good deal

But then theres also the power efficiency

[brave inlet]

what would you guys say this pc is worth used but in good condition

[fair wraith]

How used?

Used for how long? benchmarked a lot? any thermal throttling?

[neon token]

I mean those are some really good specs on paper. But I'd want to know what 'used' means as well, and would triple check all the parts match, and that thermals are okay (tho likely an easy fix if not).

[fair wraith]

Yeah I would repaste everything if you know how to safely

Which is what I didn't do myself but proably should have

[neon token]

It's probably fine tho honestly. Depending on the price, probably a good bet. (just based on specs, obv if it looks to good to be true...use caution)

[fair wraith]

I'm trying to find a good method for choosing a laptop now with different specs from the outside in

[neon token]

I mean I would just find one that has the specs you want, check out reviews, and go from there.

May I recommend a great channel that unboxes and reviews laptops. I hear they just got a new set 🙂

[fair wraith]

Sure

I'm thinking of finding some decent specs for wants/needs then checking fan noise and battery life and eliminating devices from there and trying to fit price requirements

[neon token]

https://www.youtube.com/@ShortCircuit/featured 😛

[neon token]

Honeslty seems like an okay plan 🙂

[fair wraith]

Linus while being in linus server

[neon token]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-tech-tips-spin-linus-sebastian-tech-tips-tech-tip-gif-4739055820727652066

It is almost 3am and I should really sleep. I am useless on everything im trying to do 😛

[fair wraith]

From a few seconds of looking at the videos I feel like it's just random laptop reviews and "cute" videos and less of serious in depth looks at the laptops

and very few videos compared to other channels for laptops

[neon token]

I just wanted to meme

Though they do review some laptops and they do actually run them through labs (at least the ones I've seen)

[fair wraith]

I haven't seen many of his laptop review honestly but it's mainly just devices that are new and expensive

Personally just josh and crimson have better in depth laptop reviews

[brave inlet]

oh i got it off a guy on marketplace for a good deal so im not sure of its history but its runs really cool and has no issues

[fair wraith]

That's great

[brave inlet]

i was trying to see what people thought it was worth since ik prices have been changing with ram and maybe gpus at some point if i wanted to sell it at some point soon

[neon token]

Oh....alot

[fair wraith]

Yeah worth so much

[loud ivy]

Chat is the diff between 1080p and 1440p noticeable alot? I wanted to upgrade my pc a bit and feel i could switch to 1440p but im not sure is it worth it

I currently have rtx 3070, i 9 10850k and 32gb ram

[indigo walrus]

For productivity and gaming, once you go to 1440p (@ 27 inches) you DO NOT go back.

[fair wraith]

Depends on screen size and what you are doing

[topaz veldt]

No I'm good now I need a flow controller in the death match map

[loud ivy]

Prolly 27in

[livid flame]

I went back for gaming. Agree productivity wise much better

[loud ivy]

More gaming

[livid flame]

It just depends on how you game

If I worked from home I’d be 4K straight away

[loud ivy]

Wym how i game

[livid flame]

Well if you play Fortnite competitive settings above 1080p is pointless

If you play ultra settings on black myth with RT ya gonna want the better fidelity 1440p and above offers to look pretty

[loud ivy]

Pubg? 1440p right

[livid flame]

That’s questionable

1080p is still the main stay

[neon token]

While I agree with everyone here, its also pretty subjective and kind of depends on the user

And the size of screen. And the content being viewed.

[fair wraith]

How am I supposed to see how stuff performs for laptops instead of desktops

Or basically the specs needed for games in a laptop and not desktop

[livid flame]

You look for their equivalents

There are reviews but not so many. And bad YouTubers paid to showcase them and tell you how it benchmarks/performs but they have no real metrics outside of the performance they show in games of choice that they’ve sold out to make the video

[fair wraith]

Some are good youtubers not all are bad

But when you say equivalents do you just mean the laptop version of the component?

[livid flame]

Desktop equivalent in terms of performance

Google is your friend for user feedback

[fair wraith]

Oh

I'll try to do that

I think I have kind of confirmed now that 5060 is good enough in a laptop for me now

[fair wraith]

Onto finding a good cpu

🙏

[vagrant cargo]

Ok so i had a i7-13700k before cpu wise I am upgrading, what cpu wise intel should I upgrade to Ultra 7 265K or any suggestions

I keep track of gpus and some pc stuff but not cpus I dont know what yhe best upgrade pathway is

[narrow gate]

For that u need to upgrade motherboard

[livid flame]

Why are you upgrading a 13700k

Unless you’re buying a 5090 the cpu isn’t holding a gpu back

[burnt socket]

biggest flex: not having pbo on an am5 800 series chipset

[brisk jolt]

No need to upgrade

[brisk jolt]

What drug are you on im curious

[oak vector]

That’s.. no

[burnt socket]

try and find cpu overclocking on a b840

[brisk jolt]

we all know you aint overclocking shit

[oak vector]

god this tv is horrendous

[burnt socket]

😁

[edgy laurel]

https://www.techpowerup.com/344348/windows-11-25h2-includes-a-faster-nvme-driver-needing-manual-installation

Its not yet enabled yet, primarily because it doesn't appear to be "done". Forcing it on could break your system so do so at your own risk.

[wise bear]

disk.sys

I like the simplicity

[burnt socket]

unless if i do something sketchy...

fyi i dont have the brainpower to even try

[brisk jolt]

tldr you dont have balls itfp

[burnt socket]

how is it even possible to remove the restrictions anyways

[acoustic shoal]

I have a lian li o11 dynamic and I was thinking, should I but 3 exhaust fans on the cpu radiator, 3 intake fans on the side and 2 intake on the bottom?

[livid flame]

Don’t think too hard

[acoustic shoal]

Am I thinking too hard

Coz wouldn’t the exhaust fans on the top decrease the amount of dust

[livid flame]

You’re thinking too hard

[edgy laurel]

you are, since 011 dynamics (and fishtank cases) are insanely popular that someone has thought of how to setup the fans at some point in the last 5 years

I mean just maybe

no fan setup is going to remove dust from building up in the case. so no matter what you do, expect to be opening it for regular cleaning

011's and that style are traditionally setup with bottom and side intake, top and rear exhaust

[livid flame]

I think we need to move cases forward to fish bowls now

A new design for the upcoming decade with unmatched design aesthetic and even more disastrous cooling options

[green marsh]

we had this and gave up on it

[livid flame]

Peak suffocation

[carmine lark]

Arc B580 vs RX7600?

[shell void]

b580

[edgy laurel]

michael be out guinea pig, enabled the new nvme driver

[shell void]

i have a friend with a P5800X and he tested it in Server 2025

it works, he gets significantly higher iops than i do

some of that is from using a 13700K instead of a 9800X3D, but it’s still higher

[edgy laurel]

Oh your OS might not have it. I wonder if it can be added after the fact

[shell void]

yeah i’m on 21h2 right now lmao

huge iop improvement

89K -> 134K

[pure garnet]

but you need 25h2 man

[shell void]

i am incapable of playing video games on such an archaic version of the windows operating system

[pure garnet]

fr

i still don’t know what 25h2 has over my install

[green marsh]

hm... https://www.techpowerup.com/344360/beelink-reveals-specs-and-pricing-for-the-me-pro-2-bay-nas

[pure garnet]

8000cl34 has lived 12 hours

yippie i guess

[shell void]

2026 qd oled panels are better at rejecting ambient light and resisting scratches

CES will be a fun time for display enjoyers

[oak vector]

My 3200 cl16 has lived for like a year
But good job

[pure garnet]

you mean a pre verified xmp profile with 0 effort didn’t require testing

[oak vector]

was joke 😔

[edgy laurel]

i thought it was a pretty good joke

[pure garnet]

when half your rams time isn’t spent refreshing hmu

[oak vector]

[livid flame]

[oak vector]

How much use is ocing ram on an r5 5600
Im kinda curious now
Would 3600mhz make a difference??

[merry stirrup]

explosion

[pure garnet]

violent explosion

[oak vector]

Amazing

[pure garnet]

big fireball

[livid flame]

Massive fart

[oak vector]

I could go for some fireball rn

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/mclaren-disastercals-gif-3549840301773162905

my pisspoor ryzen bins

[pure garnet]

bro i’m USING a pisspoor bin

[brisk jolt]

the only thing left I could tweak is vsoc

[pure garnet]

my 7800x3d is a trash chip

[brisk jolt]

unless its 1.15 being insufficient ive touched every other thing

[pure garnet]

although granted they all are, since good ccds became 7950x3ds

[pure garnet]

you could try 1.25v but you really shouldn’t need it

[brisk jolt]

6400 C30/32 1.3 vsoc might be stable for it if I disable CCD1

but from what Ive found it makes quite a small diff disabling a CCD

[pure garnet]

is it too late to return and rebin

[brisk jolt]

We dont have any return policy once thing’s been opened

[pure garnet]

[brisk jolt]

Maybe tech appliances do, but tech parts not so much

yeah no i cant return shit once its opened

[shell void]

@edgy laurel (i apologize for the 144p image but that’s how these leaks are) 6144x2560p 52” ultra wide:

interesting XL format

basically the 4.5x2.5K resolution of apple’s 25” iMac, but ultrawide

[brisk jolt]

There was one shop with a 1 for 1 exchange within 14 days but they have like 0 X3D chip stock in the first place

[shell void]

2026 is going to be a far more exciting year for displays than 2025 was

[steel stream]

this image has the same vibe as like a 3rd world country mugshot

[edgy laurel]

hole-e-fuk

[merry stirrup]

war is over

[shell void]

monitors that i know of so far:

• 27” and 32” 5120x2880p 165Hz and 180Hz IPS LCD
• 52” 6144x2560p 120Hz IPS LCD
• 27” 5120x2880p 165Hz QD-OLED
• 27” 3840x2160p 240Hz RGB W-OLED
• 39” 5120x2160p 240Hz RGWB W-OLED
• 34” 3440x1440p 360Hz QD-OLED
• (new versions) 27” and 32” 3840x2160p 240Hz QD-OLED

2026 QD-OLED panels will have deeper black levels and higher scratch resistance

[topaz veldt]

I meant to share this - this is what my machine is currently running

[shell void]

das a pretty board

[merry stirrup]

that’s why i’ve delt with it double clicking so long

i would’ve gotten a new keyboard by now if i didn’t actually like this one

[shell void]

no function row brings me great pain

but i like the colors

[merry stirrup]

has lights and such

[pure garnet]

if i drop trp to 42 my pc wont post

[brisk jolt]

If ARL-R has indeed better IMC I’d be hella tempted to get a 270k

[shell void]

it’s the same silicon brother

[merry stirrup]

high actuation force on these jawns i gotta get used to it

[shell void]

they’re just being less conservative with memory support because 7200MT/s jedec cudimms are coming out

if 1 dimm per channel was standard then they probably would’ve suggested 2x1r 8000 from the start

but it’s not so they’re following the latest jedec cudimms

[hoary hatch]

LG Display needs to get into retina PPI for WOLED

[shell void]

if that 27” 5K qd oled panel has what asus calls “black shield” then you may be interested in that

[pure garnet]

dude you need a pre binned chip

too many turds in a row

[shell void]

(supposedly) it’s much more scratch resistant, and holds black better

[pure garnet]

lipstick on a grape 👎

[shell void]

ALLEGEDLY

[hoary hatch]

I don't have issues with my QD OLED purple hue

I just wish it was brighter

[shell void]

oh then you really have no reason to wait for LG to put out 5K woled

[brisk jolt]

im gonna play with the vsoc first, else Im hopping off amd

[topaz veldt]

🙁

[brisk jolt]

no more AMD IMC slop

[edgy laurel]

easy with laptops and tablets. for a 32" display thats 6k minimum for 215ppi, assuming "Apple Retina" is at least 215ppi

[pure garnet]

i’m not home rn but this is about 13h into karhu now

[merry stirrup]

sealed for a rainy day

[pure garnet]

oh wait it was trp 44

not 42, even worse

[shell void]

if there’s a 32” 5K qd-oled with that better display coating then asus and samsung display will have my card info

[proven cairn]

Ok

[shell void]

i don’t wanna drop down to 27” again, it felt like a joke the last time that i tried