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nice
just no way
do you know the max power draw it should be around
Hmmm... Interesting choice.
i assume 270-300w
it floats around 240-292w
so ig it could be right and its only dropping that low for not that long
it's probably some log scale
oh my polling rate is 2 seconds thats why
that's affecting the reporting
seems to be somewhat accurate
its from the VRM and not the cpu so its not going to be accurate anyways
i gotta remember how to do log math hold on
my primary issue is that this is on stock mem and im already getting really hot so oced mem is going to make this poor thing explode
as it is more work from the cpu aka more watts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc6v67s6Jyk
@edgy laurel i love thiss
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this is fantastic
Personally, I prefer stuff a bit more like these.
this is actually really good @steel stream
why are people buying 5800x3ds for $600
yeah that's a problem
so many watts that it infact instantly fails with xmp on
from just heat cause it was working
wtf
it got to say 19.6w package power
can't you get a microcenter 3 in 1 combo for a 7800x3d for less
i don't think MC's combos come with RAM at all anymore
not a thing any longer
newegg has been the combo king for ram
nope they recently brung it back
did you see vrm reporting?
but people are getting so crazy with ram prices they’re paying more overall for less computer
oh my god they are wtf
oh, and that they did
because they are on a 3700X and DDR5 is $350
at 19.8 package power the vrm says 308
they've gotta be losing money hand over first for that
interesting
and $40+ US shipping on top of that
granted 1 dimm sucks that bundle is still way more computer than a $600 am4 cpu
this is actually not bad regardless
woof
CL36 but like
whole hell of a lot better than a 5800x3D alone for $600, regardless of the ram specs
cl36 doesn’t matter to 99.9% of the diy population
goop goop goop
i like the 9800x3d one mre
little bit of gooop
who cares it's an x3d cpu
@merry stirrup there is some crazy scaling going on here
i can’t fault a dude for buying micro ewaste rn
goop goop goop
bLLC or not, I’m going 52 core next gen. It’s going to cost me. 😆
it be windy out there
mucho windo
128GB of memory is like two grand of that 😆
wait a minute
is this how we know threadripper ain't selling @topaz veldt
lol i love how i am just here to goop and scoot and theres a matriarch like 12 ft from spawn
over half that pricetag is RAM
Eurocom doing weird laptops again
kill it for the cores
I am on a quest
Display: 18 in 240 Hz QHD 2560-by-1600 or 200 Hz UHD 3840-by-2400 pixels
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best AM4 CPU
those are the cheap versions. some are listed above $800
well, $600 gives you either a 5800X3D for a platform you own, or not even 64GB RAM for new platform you still have to buy rest of parts for
when they start putting socketable chips in there
elaborate
they stopped doing that
sounds like exactly where I'd wanna be
once upon a time they had a socket 2011 laptop (they called it portable server)
at what point does it just become a pc
they also had an AM4 laptop
yeah I'm just saying, once they start doing that again then they'll really be back to making weird laptops again
i have 48gb and for games i dont really even make use of that
certain games w/ mods require me to close chrome to prevent swapping hard. extra headroom can't hurt
when we get those single rank 32gb sticks i’d probably get a set
with the data points I am trying to match a function to see if there's any correlation but so far nothing
rough datapoints but it's a weird curve
Peeps, with the same amount of money, say 150$, which is better external hard drive or ssd for pc?
idk why it isn’t already a thing
ssd
since dual rank 64gb dimms exist, and half that is 32gb single rank
better for what
clocks are clocking
Storage
it’s supposed to be but then ram crisis happened
no shit, storing what
... of what
the color is unsettling
just to differentiate core groups
Videos
Or just general files
then its simply up to you. You can get 8TB of HDD space or 1TB of SSD space.
Not going to make a ton of difference for just video storage
Should my electrical current be this high even tho the cpu is at idle?
incredibly wrong
simply no possible way at that temperature or even with that cpu
Weren't there a cheaper ssd for pc?
since when does Adrenaline measure current, or at least display it
The one before m2
wdym?
it’s wrong is what i mean
it drops by maybe like 1
wdym it's not drawing 141A?
brother
I dont even know what it means tbh
it’s not a problem, ignore it
Choose Storage
wherever it’s reading that from is simply wrong and shouldn’t be trusted
oh okay good
find Power in Watts
I have a feeling my cpu is being fried
volts times amps = watts
Sata 2.5 if I'm not mistaken
how?
P=VI
Ok thx
it will be displayed there in Adrenaline right in the same screen, or HWinFO.
But its clear you're very new to all this so explain this "feeling" that your CPU is being fried. (it isn't)
probably doesn’t exist in that stupid menu, download hwinfo and open it sensors only
I've been checking used sata SSD prices on ebay for months and they have gone up quite a bit recently
for eample in november a 8tb was 499 at black friday 599 and now it's 699
ah okay
but yeah your cpu is probably drawing 30-40w at 41c
least it’s not as bad as mine
20w and it’s at 97c
its really hot in my room rn
i think its choking lol
think you need a remount or smth dude
you don't need to guess for any of this. You simply look at the stats you can pull up in front of you in HWiNFO
she’s good
ik lol
i want better cooling for reals tho
this is my CPU right now 40°C and taking 30-40w
did that but i dont know what im looking at lol
what can you get atp, dont you have 360mm aio?
sad i can’t get 5ghz ecores in ycruncher just cause of heat
i’d have to go full custom
need to scroll till you see temps and power (in watts)
how can icheck this?
main limiter of heat transfer is the aio block not the rad
employed activities :(
oh my stupid
bud youhave it all right in front of you, you're just not scrolled to the right area
i use the software "core temp" but there are other that work just as well
wow i was bang on
thanks!
someone’s watching their soc volts on their asrock board
i marked that in green way back when, never changed it
lol
is that bad 😭?
could unironically be making him throttle with those incorrect readings
do a load, download cinebench and run it and screenshot hwinfo
140A sounds more like lava hot
Isn’t it usually the other way around? Higher voltage lower amperage?
it’s misreporting
Ah
yes
guy has zero concept of power, this talk is sending him nto a tailspin lol
the air that my exhaust fan is spewing is really hot
indeed
got noting to do with your CPU, and point the fan somewhere else
Just run cinebench to confirm what the real values are
@edgy laurel your old which tomb raider game do i start with i bought all 3

my worry is not the galues

must be significant lower than your CPU temp and thats 40°C right?
dunno, i didn't play any till 2018's Shadow of the Tomb Raider
my worry is that his board is throttling him cause it thinks it’s drawing 140a at 40w
right now its at about 50c
if this helps
hitting some form of edc limit
What board does he have?
guys got all the monitoring software opwn for some reason
fr
I updated my bios recently it might be cause of that ngl
ASRock X470 Gaming K4
chip is chilling at 40W

monitoring software is fun to watch
I just wanted to know
also i just got like 50 errors by hwinfo talking about sum pci lock
the hell
screenshot
no idea what you're referring to
i existed the app
i existed the app
Un existed it
i existed the app
uh
btw @fervent chasm when I realized I was going to have to build the software, I had to bow out. Maybe a different time when I'm setup to do that lol
Have u touched some bios settings?
I put it private anyway, I will eventually provide executables
that or the board is just defective atp
I just updated it i havent really touched anything
it kinda doesn’t matter as long as it doesn’t throttle him because of that in load
under load the cpu goes kinda wild with the temp's
that doesn’t matter
i only care about the board throttling you cause it thinks it’s drawing like 6x the amps it really is
if it’s not throttling, temps don’t matter
^
why tho?
Because if you’re throttled it’s bad wdym why
fuck if i know dawg
See this whole section? If you showed people here what this looks like under a TRUE 100% load scenario, it would answer everyones questions. Right now its a lot of guessing.
@wary panther
why it does that is out of my pay grade
Pay raise
well the fuck i do now
run cinebench with hwinfo open like i told you
^
then screenshot hwinfo
during the run
with cinebench still running
yes
yes
I’m so glad you gotta clarify that
i mean tbh it doesn’t matter because hwinfo is great
that is true
LTT discord is really something even in TC2
people play that?
just this update? 😉
let me insall cinebench
man these cpus with core overclocks are quite nutty
Is that the game that never was completed?
Havent played in a long time so i will see what has changed
1.32 10^10 in cinebench with just 8k xmp
is that the game with stupideous amounts of paid ships and shit
Oh
Yes
Huge galaxy?
“328w” peak out of my cpu
yeah so like never mind its 1.3 gigs
or alternatively, 20.9 watts
Yes like +15y later
download r23 or r20
I install one a year, work out how to find the ship bay and retrieve my ship, spend an hour trying to figure out how to take off, fly around for 20 minutes and realize I don't know how to do anything else, then I Alt F4 and don't touch it for another year
... it's 1.3 gig thats nothing
Still in Alpha
Cinebench is 1.3GBs?
I dont mean storage wise, its my slow ass internet
2025 is
Ah i did bunkers and sold the armor when i played it in 3.10-3.16 then i took a break
That’s nothing
yes
Now u cant sell armor bruh
Yeah I don't know anything about armor
can i just open marvel rivals for some reason in the lobby my cpu is at like 90% when i open it lol
you don’t care anyways this is pointless
Bunker was +100k and heavy armor core was like 5k per
Gotta wear it
enjoy your computer you have nothing to worry about
holy moly the wind is whipping. power just blipped twice
I dont care?
yeah even here too, shits goin nutty this week
Speaking of we never finished the backup generator for our home
what am i supposted to do like what
My father wants to set up something more commercial grade that can keep the entire home running not just essentials
the performance issues that may or may not be happening aren’t important enough to matter this much
I do have the package with squadron 42. Would be fun to play "if it ever comes out even"
my friend in spokane and she had no power in the yesterday morning
Cinebench R23, OCCT.. something. then a screenshot while the test is running. a game may lower the load if alt-tabbed out and won't be a 100% load so its useless. If you want further help, you're going to have to provide what was asked.
yeah i have friends/family in places with all the flooding in wa rn
flooding when it’s this cold?
yes
KIRO 7 is following the impacts of historic flooding in Washington at kiro7.com/flooding
it was like 100k+ evacuated in washington
also abbotsford flooded up here in BC
why in the holy fuck is discord pinging me in a server i have muted
i was just about to take a picture of my ycruncher
i shit you not as i pressed the button it failed
opposite of mechanics curse
mfw my phone comes back from the black screen into a failed screen
going good enough i guess
i’m going to stability test this core config one time in the winter then never again cause it won’t pass in any other weather
and then just daily it and cope and call it stable
16.4gb to go
nevermind i gave it more volts and it still failed i love this
i love heat related errors
Then i open up Star citizen and close it because i want to play SQUAD instead.
can't wait to see a custom dimm loop
cpu heat unfortunatey
can't wait to see a custom cpu + dimm loop
there we go
Squad is so easy to run now it's great to play
or i’ll delid again cause im poor
not a fan of having to oven my cpu to delid it though
debatable
yeah on ARL it's quite the gamble
i can't go back to normal squad after the playtest
it's just so much better
SO much
I get 300fps at 1440p high it's dead easy to run
*with FSR with FG on a 9070xt
You just need a $600 gpu
does squad support MFG?
With no tricks it's still 140-180
i get 60 with dlss performance
actually playable
nope
i just want this 5.5 and 4.9 config to be validated
next year
With frame gen when I get shot my screen does the CRT multi line flicker for a second
(pic from Internet, but this is what I'm seeing) do I just click "accept" and not worry about it? I used Rufus to create the ISO
Idk
they're cutting NVIDIA GPU supply next year though
when ferrari wins a WDC and WCC @edgy laurel when is that?
Fast zooming in on the map is aids with frame gen
@low sorrel aw yeah
nice
yo you playing rn?
nah gotta go get kiddos now
Yeah, good optimizations. I do run high on my 3070ti at 1440p
rip just shut down teams for the day lol
Jerry is a freak at 4k on a 3060
yeah I took a light afternoon w/ the holiday coming
I have a 3060 also but hell naw
All low settings?
I want stable fps NAW
He just said above he gets a playable 60fps on dlss performance
medium and cinematic particle effects
DLSS performance at 4K on a 27" must look pretty good still
ill upgrade evntually
it really does
black magic dude, black magic
i wish squad had transformer support

only CNN :(
you can force it in the NVIDIA app
ill look into that then
imma be honest i bought a new monitor just so i can do this
Could be useful if flashbang is used infront of you
smh akn is bi he has bedrock and java installed
I had to do some testing to make sure Bedrock people could actually join my Java server
you can do that now???
alright I was able to reverse image search this and find more info, we good
yeah there's a mod for that
called Geyser MC I think
yeah i use it for cod
It's been a thing for a while now, no?
Anyone down to squad "soon"
define soon
@pallid marsh doesn't get off work until ungodly hours
and im busy for the next few hours
mfw i have to undervolt my cpu to make it stable at a higher clock speed
Trade you a date with your sister for a 9060xt 16gb
5090 and you got a deal
it’s very weird having a generation of cpus this temperature sensitive
10mins
Its 23:55 for me 
Is this how trading was like back in the old days, but with letters instead of discord, and some cattle instead of a gpu?
Ah hell nah
we can play when you wake up lol
They got more then a date they got a wife
dude the fearmongering here is so funny https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/1pq51kp/vanrestriction_and_closing_the_motherboard/
I wonder if it depended on how much got traded
A wife for a farm, a date for a cow etc
Yes
Dont take my sapper role
something with the base tile maybe?
i think this makes the most sense as to why they’d be this temperature unstable as compared to last gen
tj max is 105c but the cpu is unstable past 100
I'm usually sniping when the role is available
crashes instantly, hence the requirement for an undervolt, it’s weird
yeah idk what it could be, base tile gets too warm and inter-tile communications get fucky?
ig this would make sense
one with big gun one with medic hands
what’s interesting is that every time it errors it’s on core 17 even if that’s not the culprit
i’m not sure if that would be the closest to the memory controller or what
i guess we play on east coast servers so your ping isn't ass right?
or furthest?
you're eu correct?
Correct
yeah we west coast
do you play some specific servers like 44th something?
i went to 55/48 and adjusted some timings now i’m ultimately at where i was with 55/49
1.32 is muy fast for xmp with spice
Royal anglian regiment
i play alot on TT but i don't really care
I wonder how much I could sell my old build for https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BfVQ8Q
Part List - Intel Core i5-13600K, Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO ATX Mid Tower
wow they actually have a decent looking website
fucking tea drinkers
Fucking useless squad mate smh
I hate when people go marksman on China you shoot the same fucking bullets as every other role
what’re you doing?
Im in the battle zone not like 500m away from it
The only good marksmen role is the one with .338 rifle
core tuning with some silliness
They do have the stat tracker. I have tried many servers but this one is best in my view
figured out why the thing throttles so much and now core tuning is a viable option
my stats are probably dogshit because i kinda feed into inf to get shots at armor
what about the mosin
2 x3d chips at once is some ridiculous thing i’ve never done
I still kill people with red dot sites at 300m no need for a lesser marksman role that gets no ammo bag and cost more to resupply ammo
@narrow gate did you see the new ico rework
havent yet
ADSing with PIP optics isn't cancer
Shoots the same 7.62x54r that heavy mgs get so it's a lame gun
@narrow gate
I see
effects all pip scopes
g3 is a real gun now
and not a blunderbuss at close range
Amazing star citizen update is done
Its 0:17am
The smaller the file the longer it will take
surely the sweat who added me as a friend during a PvP game only wants to say nice things right
on your team
you know the friend i que with the most recently is someone who i added from the other team because they had an f1 related name
he's adding you because you have an f1 related name right
fuck off lol
what he say
@merry stirrup https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1pp0n2n/ingame_maps_have_been_updated_to_show_extracts_now/
Blacks ops stop being good after bo2
shi
idk i rejected the request
lame
i remember all the maps this is useless
Only weak men quit early
linus on twitch rn
No he is on floatplane
that would be radical
well so far i think liquid glass is a visual downgrade from ios 18
Weird find: box of 4 or 5 VINTAGE linksys cable modem and routers... and possibly a nic?
For 10 bux lol
i think i've forgotten what iOS used to look like'
traaash
i’m sure i’ll get used to it but i’m not an immediate fan
no, i think I was also vocal that I was not a fan
But brings back memories
aside from my phone respringing like twice a day i haven’t cared about the update
I did lol
i can already notice how much more battery life this has but my 13pm was at 84% health so thats expected
I don't think that style made it past wireless g? Maybe n at best?
i’m still torn on if i want a 17 pro or a cheaper phone bill
nothing actually wrong with my 15pm besides it’s due for a battery swap soon
for what are these things?
for what is google?
It is microsfttt
best to leave it alone
wait for 18 and N2 node
n3b was junk i’m not confident in n2
need me an 18A phone
i tried it
is reddit down for any of yall as well
no reddit didnt shut down
maybe
nyehehehehehe
You opened a cat cafe?!
Rather Twitter die over reddit
it's back
god dammit.
This can be good or bad
lol
i vote good
he's gonna love that thing
less reddit is always good
USB c?
Depends
that looks like micro
I would just cut of the micro USB header and solder a USB-C header on
Probbaly cheaper and faster then buying a new cable
are you sure there exist a pin compatabile type c header
Well the lamp only really needs power
i use that magnetic cable to charge my jabra headset and i have type c one that came in the same box in mx master 3s
decent stuff
I only have like 2 USB C cables
I hope ||you guys have a good day||
Thats what i said after my math test this tuesday
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Hmmm
I got a bunch of these
with those you cant just leave them in the port
JayzTwoCents just figuring out AM5 long boots
fellas
Frog
they did not have any sprinter vans available so rental place gave me a 15ft box truck
What we moving?
the sprinter van was too large it was just cheaper to get it for a one way trip than an SUV
so instead of an SUV to move I now have a 15ft box truck thats 10% full
me
that's sweet
ratchet straps will be handy
uhaul?
Didn't know you came with that much baggage
can fit all of TC2 in that truck
budget cause uhaul charges per mile so it'd end up being like $2600 for the rental instead of $600
And they charge you for fuel if you don't return it full
I think every place does that but they assume highest fucking fuel price
If you have a fancy package some places don't charge for fuel refills
i just use my own trailer if i need to move large stuff
I use family members trucks
I don't want to owe family members anything & I don't own a car cause I hate everything about them
At least own a smart car 
that's worse than a car
that's like having a car that can't do any car things
it can only park in tight spaces that's it
why's your Ford F150 look like that
its little confused but has good spirit

you're telling me if I tow 1kg I die and the car explodes?
"trust me bro"
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that looks like a counterweight to do wheelies
was about to say the same
what about 2017
I'm the inverse, 52 core or not, I'm going bLLC
damn ram shortage so bad i'm unironically telling normie friends to buy raptor 😔
good deal just for the ram
the 7970x was like.... 2.6k cad a while back
oh lol still is
Do they already have DDR4?
if bllc is competitive with zen x3d that’s my plan
yes
holy shit im rich
whatever the highest core count with bLLC is I will get
but I am heavily skewed to getting a 52c variant
it's just too cool
so much aura
evil urge to sell all the 2080tis to afford 52c cpu i won't even fully use
As cool as the 80 Tis are, the 52c is just so much cooler
awesomesauce if you will
and if we get a 52c variant with dual bLLC oh lord
whatever Zen6 is I'll get that, no sense in replacing a motherboard
come to the dark side Guilty
if its the best option for gaming when I actually need a new platform, sure
damn you, you're too logical
regardless it won't make anysense this upcoming gen
this board needs to run out the sockets lifetime to make it worth the $500 pricetag
it's crazy to me that selling one of my ram kits would probably let me buy the cpu
fuck ai
ai is bullshit
but what if I told you I used it to make art in studio ghibli style
AI must be integrated into everything
we got new washer/dryers recently and it has an AI mode
idk what it does
if you guys could hear the stuff my cto was saying at our company holiday party yesterday.. you can't possibly cringe any harder
he recited a fucking AI holiday poem
was dying inside
more than likely its just a sensor that guesses the spin and wash cycle based on weight
oh god
if its extra it might send you a text message telling you your wash is done
did he start it with "Sure I can write you a holiday poem for your companies party!"
anything with even some basic automation is "AI" now
"art"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_HOrMmWoMA prime example
Frank in a hat! https://www.makeship.com/products/frank-the-snake-longboi-2-0
Extra vids for Floaties! https://www.floatplane.com/channel/TheTrashNetwork/home
Car Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHdpnvKJDijKNe2caIasnww
Game Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@BorkusTime
Drum Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@the.drum.thing.
I dunno if AI wrote it, but it was like a poem about the holidays and how great AI is going to be for us in the coming year. It was awful
DANKPODS MENTIONED
shoot me now
everything must integrate slop
sloppenheimer
you see the sam altman interview where he talks about raising his kid with AI
cant wait for discord ai
not surprising. gross
@ grok why is my kid crying
'i can't imagine raising my kids without ai'
just explode please
https://youtu.be/LCPhbN1l024
Sam Altman be like
sam altman is a cyberpunk 2077 villan who came to life
the current ceo of discord was leadership at blizzard so i wouldnt hold my disbelief, also apparently he was the head of the candy crush team?
@brave panther #tech-chat-2 message
head of candy crush is wild
Running on hopes and dreams, i hope it crashes and burns soon
Sam Altman wants to make a deal with us: he'll give us a utopian future, if we give him... everything.
$750 billion in investment. As much electricity as the population of India. And all of our data.
And if he's wrong he'll still profit off of what comes next.
More Perfect Union is an Emmy-winning, nonprofit newsroom whose mission is t...
if our company goes under it would suck but.. secretly want to watch this AI dream crash and burn
So I dumpster dive a local Ewaste Recycling Bin in my city. Well Dumpster(Ewaste Recycling Bin) diving paid off big tonight. Fucker is in an ESD bag and everything. Fuck. Even if the Mobo doesnt work, my mobo right now is a Z370 so the processor will work it in. I dont need the ram but any ram is like gold right now, even DDR4. I was joking to myself when I saw the Z390 that I hope it's at least an i7 to upgrade my i5-9500. Fucking 9900K is insane. Who the fuck throws that away!?
just one more data centre pleaseeee we'll finally have agi for sure this time
what even is agi
real ai instead of glorified web scrapers
Just one more gpu
bro why is your activity set to public 
Artificial intelligence vs natural stupidity
stupidly is more real then ai pog
im not an idiot i just have frequent hallucinations
this is good
about 3/4 of the way through it
Heya
It’s okay I test this exact scenario every day 
I want to somehow put the hostname or system spec of each of my PCs on the desktop wallpaper w/o causing burn in lol
invert the colors?
you wont keep a monitor long enough to get burn in bro
those look so cool but i just picture wasted CPU overhead
nah monitors are one of the things I do keep long
its ass, i don't see the point really. I have it and have tried running ita few times but 1, all my shit is in front of it all the time and 2, each times its caused some weird hiccup with 3D that i've rage uninstalled it
will always be garbageware in my eyes
my AW3423DWF from 2022 still has nothing wrong after 3 years of not babying it
I glanced this and read "Human Sashimi" and thought wtf happened to TC2
you’ll be fine to have a static wallpaper that you look at occasionally
I still move my windows around a little bit every few days without thinking about it much
still such a good wallpaper

you could just use text with a transparent background and edit into your existing wallpaper
and make it a darker color
yeah I just do slideshow though so I'd ahve to do it for like 40 images
my issue is I often switch computers with kvm/usb switch but forget what I am on lol
I could fire up that old powertools overlay shit
@edgy laurel the wind is fucking up my firepalce
that wind was fucking up a lot of things
i think my patio furniture might be missing thats a tomorrow problem
ha is it plastic?
the humble propane and propane accessories
I had a nice cast aluminum set that we donated before the patio project that shit never moved
this is aluminum but its light stuff
ah word
First time I saw this was about buying ARL from Michael.
What is it
every time
lurking hardcore
@edgy laurel I think my dude hurt his back rofl
ROFL first i've seen that lol
lol i wasn't going to mention you for that reason
:3
grhounghog
huh
recursive maths visualized thru geometric shapes
its so tempting mannn
ill rock your shit in that game
jorj you're like the ultimate trash talker and never back it up
what level are you
is this that arc raider game
5nail he doesn't even own the game
"I'll kick your ass dude right after I get back from this Jojo Siwa concert"
27
bro stay out of the toilet
until someone sends him a key lol
lcd handhelds in the big 25
handhelds are cool
Nintendo
my son is getting a switch2
nintendo is nintendo
I hope he likes it... but doesn't get obsessed
@topaz veldt are you playing arc rn
oh, its over
nah i just edited that clip real quick
what dbrand skin should i get for it
snail what games you got for the switch bro
probably their case instead
oh yah we got the case also
Chicken got style
thats a nice co~
no new maps, there is only one map
locations i mean
ooo rtx video hdr works on chrome :D
i know, been using it since it came out
@low sorrel want to help me take down a rocketeer?
snail you wanna play if i get it
B
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B for prox chat, Z for party chat
if you're on a team, use Z
I was hoping we would spell bitch 
I was going for bill nye
Is it still
no it’s moving
The PC Of Theseus amif the only thing left from the original PC of Theseus is the GPU, CPU and RAM? And PSU
sounds like you want to join
hihi snail
hi'
hi
hi
these make me fart
How it's just coffee Mac
Peyton has ths happened to you before you're the monster consumer
it’s weird idk
coffee doesn’t bother me, dairy doesn’t bother me
so only about all of the major components
those specifically make my stomach sound like the beginning of Rack City
Never had that before
chickens got drip
@low sorrel did you crash again
chicken drippings
wait are you guys playing arc
yes
no
where'd you go
im in main menu
The baby got me up at 3am. She knows I want to see Jake Paul get knocked out live. Good baby.
guys I got a problem, why does my pc keep forgetting my pin after bios update
is that normal, happened to me 2 times
wait what do you mean your pc forget your pin?
Don’t update your bios I guess
happens to me every time. i just reset it to what it was before
I’m going to say he is getting the secure boot message that there’s been a change and to reset it. It then means windows will re-do credentials with you
its a quick fix since I can still authenticate with my microsoft app
It’s annoying but not the end of the world.
I think if i disabled SB, saved it, then did flashback it would be fine
Will have to try that next time tbh
but i haven't updated the BIOS on this board in probably a year now. there was a point where I was updating it seemingly once a week
You have to redo XMP and any PBO on bios update so redoing your account login isn’t so much more
early B650/X670 days the updates were coming fast and actually improving things. slowed way down now and nothing to really fix so i haven't bothered
So many memory bios updates that I’m unsure what is ever being improved
half the time I don't notice a thing
Except for the addition of the x3d turbo setting nothing has changed for me
I think it's in the "Improves stability and performance" boilerplate kind of updates.
Question, can bigger than stated supported ram size is a reason to cause a laptop to randomly froze, crash reset or bluescreen-ed?
leading up to these events, it seemingly works fine?
Well...
Previously with the stock config it will occasionally do those thing, but the frequency is higher once I'm running with the not supported config
my laptop comes with 8gb ram, 4 soldered 4 removable, then I swapped in a 16gb stick
also only happens when I'm doing light task like browsing and stuff
Hmm, I wonder if its RAM related at all
I thought it was the gpu driver, I did removed the OEM one and then reinstall with the driver from AMD site
but iirc when I wiped and reinstall the version on the laptop support site it still crashes
sometimes its a bluescreen, other times its just freezes?
Yea, sometimes its a bluescreen
IIRC some common bluescreen codes are IRQL not less or equal, kmode exception not handled.
sometimes it hangs and I have to force shutdown
sometimes it blackscreen-ed, I get the glitched audio when thing crashed, and then it restarted on its own
damn, those uber-generic stop codes suck
And it doesn't occur in a fixed intervals
like I could get weeks of normal operation
then it decided to not work 3 restarts in a row or something
oh, sometimes it will just crash when I let the laptop sits
on two different physical RAM sticks too. I dunno how much you're going to be able to do beyond any available laptop BIOS updates or windows wipes and reinstalls
wonderful timing!
I guess you could remove the non soldered stick
See if the problem stick is the one you can replace
@pallid marsh squad?
If it’s the soldered stick that’s the problem then ya fucked 
potentially run the system for weeks on just 4GB of RAM sounds fun lol
Well I’d say just to do metest
but yeah
oh, yeah, dunno why I didn't think of that
basic memtest, even the windows built in
Gonna be rough af doing memtest just on that but worth exploring memtest on just soldered. Then with additional stick
sure
I think I had memtest on the ventoy stick
@narrow gate squad
I probably should reinstall windows.
I did the half ass that definitely doesn't do anything "fix windows with the installation USB" option
we played a few more rounds, and got absolutely bodided in spaceport
Mmeszed up so badly cooking stir fry now I'm eating nothing
Lol, sorry had to bounce, I will post a clip of when Jerry and I rolled a bunch of goons
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dude this video PISSSED me off
they dont understand the point of a framework
its point is sustainability not prioritizing modularity.
At the end of the day you have a laptop. One you are very unlikely to upgrade, the upgrade options are extremely limited
EXACTLY
So if it’s more costly than the next brand, are they wrong?
i dont have one so i cant comment on it personallyt
Buying framework right now is not about quality or value for money. It’s about in 10 years time hoping laptops have more upgradeability
i just get mad when people go through and judge things based on a piece of it that isnt its focus. especially when they claim to be an expert
Buying a framework is generally a poor option for most people
this
totally agree
yeah, don't care. I'll just buy a macbook
im just salty because they are judging a camel by how fast it moves, like sure u can, but also ur missing the point entirly
agreed here too
but thats not what they were arguing
When a product is awful value for money. Literally almost any point is valid.
they were agruing that it isnt modular when they stated "that is framworks biggest thing they were tying to achieve" im paraphrasing bc i dont have the full quote
Well it’s not really modular. From what I remember you couldn’t pick from 6 different motherboard vendors
It’s not like they have 10 different manufacturers for power and 10 different wattage options
They’re just taking an extremely limited choice and giving you a very limited instead.
its a product desinged for those who want to have a repairable device, and they were only judging it on its upgradability, im not mad at their point bc its wrong because i do in fact agree its a bad value for most. im just irritated that someone with infuence is judging a car on how well it stays parked, yes its one of the things it does but not the only thing
i think ur missing what im saying
You need to judge how it drives - the same as any other spec laptop
im saying i agree with you
It’s a company with great end goals I applaud
but
But it’s a shite product
im mad at the reviewers for being bad at their job
You agree with them
no
hey we bodied a bunch of people beforehand
Yet say they’re bad

i like the idea of framework
I look forward to it being more mainstream however
And more affordable
hold on, ur missunderstanding what im saying. im writing it out one sec
Also if a car doesn’t start parked it’s useless
You need to separate the company from the product.
The product is awful
It’s no real improvement on custom laptops from SI builders
The company want to change the industry to build a better product eventually. Fair play.
what im saying is the thing their pointing out is correct, i agree its a bad value, and not something id buy, i agree its not modular and its expensive, but im hating on them for judging it soley on its abily to be modular, its a bad way to review a product. does that make sense, im angry at them for missing the point of the prduct and judging it on something its only partially designed for when its primary purpose is to be REPAIRABLE.
Oh also you have to build it yaself. lol. Just adds to the expense of a bad product itself

It’s no more or less repairable than a normal laptop
long story short, im not mad because of the point they made, im mad because they didnt touch on any of the topics that are the products strong suits
It just had easier access via the chassis
its DEFINATLY more repairable then a normal laptop, but thats not the purpoise of this conversation
My screen is broke. How is that more repairable on framework?
Remember the overwhelmingly vast majority of laptop repair issues is the screen
And then the keyboard/trackpad
because i can right now, go online, type in my serial; number, and get the exact repair piece and instuction on how to repair it, and i wont need to know how to solder, or keep track od 80 different types of screws.
A broken screen still has the same problem on framework than on a non-framework.
Okay so you pay stupid money in getting a framework screen. Costs the same as asking Dell to replace your Dell screen. How are you helping consumers?
yes and no, the problem is the same, but the solution is different for both depending on your laptop
The product is shite - it offers nothing new right now. The company goals are noble and I hope it induces change. You can’t be mad if the product is actually no better than current conventions for a consumer.
You give people 2 exact same spec laptops. 1 is dell, another is framework. Who do you think people choose?
its often times less by a significan margin look the price of a screen from frame work then see how much it normally costs to repair an averagle laptop if u need to ship it in
depends on the person
again, im not arguing framework is better and u seem caught up in that
for the last time i have no skin in that game, i dont own a framework
it seems to me like u have a personal gripe with framework for some wierd reason but either way im not goiung to get my point across to u if your to busy being stuck on a framework to understand what the issue is im trying to point out.
I own a framework
I can confidently say not worth
No. I’m objective.
You’re emotional…
then why are u getting caught up in me mentioning the word framework when i keep repeating that my issue isnt with their point on the product, its that they completly glossed over the whole reason its a thing and why they are a company, and who their marketing it towards.
my issue is that they did an unfair review, not that they did it on a framework
I would rather just buy a macbook
i would have been just as bugged if they did this with a coffee mug
agreed on this
thats what i use daily
there was some pretty good deals on the mac air
for christmas? or something else?
around black friday, I think the 2025 with m4 chip you couldve gotten for like $600 with just the paypal deal alone
less
thats sick
if you combined that with a new CC promo or something, more like $400 or less
speaking of, thoughts on apples new beta update for direct ram access?
The one that allows remote access? or whatever they call it
maybe we're thinking of different stuff, but I saw a video by jake about the mac minis allowing to use each others resources
based on the video, its pretty cool
skill issue
is that QD-OLED?
TacTrig yes
yeah

US team?
yes sir
im dumb ins
@pallid marsh @narrow gate gimme 10 and ill be back
me sleepy sleep
Yes

@narrow gate you still playing
We can yeah
Let me boot up the game. Tweaked some ram settings
Wat team


