tech-chat-2

[low sorrel]

ebay

https://www.google.com

[digital plume]

i've never tried international shipping

[steel stream]

oh i should too

[merry stirrup]

you have an automated ram calc but type out the entire mchire link

how many characters saved vs wasted

[digital plume]

i might just be due for a monitor upgrade

[pure garnet]

it’s only trfc

[pallid marsh]

Look at a iPhone 7 screen and say that again 😂

[merry stirrup]

trfc=every other timing

cycles to ns universal

[low sorrel]

i have one

i don't use it but i have one

[pure garnet]

yeah but trfc is the only one i care about the ns of

[pallid marsh]

iPhone 7 screen looks so shit vs a oled

[merry stirrup]

ig some people (mac) use it to like

make guesses on what their tcl is gonna do at x freq and volts

[wise bear]

I have a sudden craving for a plate of sausage and pickles

[merry stirrup]

or whatever timing

[pure garnet]

oh i just kinda guess by the first world latency

[shell void]

the urge to abandon memory tuning forever and embrace jedec grows stronger every day

[pure garnet]

like 6000cl30 probably does 6400cl32 etc

[shell void]

intentionally using jedec is just so based

[merry stirrup]

nothing is unstable unless i saw it fail

[pure garnet]

it’s probably not valid but it works every try

since i have an 8000 kit

[merry stirrup]

realistically this works

6kc30 is similar but still slower than 6200c32

in both first word and bw (duh)

[shell void]

ladies and gentlemen it turns out that a 240mm liquid freezer with the pump at 20% and the fans at 450rpm cannot handle a 5.6GHz 14900K

instant 95c in Cinebench

[pure garnet]

basically i know my 8000cl38 is close ish to 10ns

[merry stirrup]

95<105c

[pure garnet]

so i just aim for a cl that’s about 10ns

[low sorrel]

just remove the temp limits

[pure garnet]

and then use 1.35v vdd

[merry stirrup]

105c is tjmax

[shell void]

just dont run the pump at 20% and fans at 450rpm

[low sorrel]

nah

[merry stirrup]

good enough

this is what a couple people seem to do

[shell void]

am i doing it right

[merry stirrup]

MOREEE

[low sorrel]

more

[merry stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[low sorrel]

What's the melting point of silicon

[merry stirrup]

i think sand goes into silicon at like 2000ish c

silica dust rather ig

[wise bear]

bro its gonna pour and be wimdy af tn

half an inch of rain in the morn

same on thurs

Potential thunder tonight too

Beeeep. Beeeep. Beeeep.

[wraith steeple]

I hate winter

[merry stirrup]

plus one

[wise bear]

WeatherCat

Yooo that'd be a cool twitch channel

just doing the weather as a vr cat

like cellshaded cartoon cat like my pfp

"guys it gon' rain"

$10 and I cover your area's forecast

[brave panther]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-its-gon-rain-weather-report-gif-167830538200233540

[wise bear]

I can give you marine conditions, air conditions up to 30kft, river intensities and algae blooms

I might actually pursure this ngl

OOH I could even cover astrological stuff & satellite spotting

[brave panther]

https://tenor.com/view/scorpio-astrology-gta-sorry-rhirhired-gif-23102615

[wise bear]

no not that shit

like seeing planets in a telescope

ASTRONOMY

Help this edible is very strong

[low sorrel]

wtf when did ssds get so expensive

[pallid marsh]

Since ai needed fast storage keep up Jerry

[toxic grotto]

Ryan hall but cat

[wise bear]

why does that name sound familar

[toxic grotto]

Ryan hall is well known weather boi

[steel stream]

RIP really thought it had it

[pure garnet]

my 240mm lf3 was the loudest aio i’ve ever heard

[shell void]

manual speed control is but a fable to kyoko

but i don’t like the LF3 240 either to be clear

[zenith fog]

Ddr4 even

[hoary hatch]

https://videocardz.com/newz/arctic-claims-mx-7-is-its-coolest-thermal-paste-yet
Holy new thermal paste

[potent wing]

Doesn’t normal thermal paste work lol

[young void]

As long as it doesn't arrive as a solid putty myte be worth a try to replace my mx4 habit

I'm actually hyped for this

[pure garnet]

i have a manual curve rn

it’s just a loud product

[pallid marsh]

Hope it's not like mx-5

[potent wing]

Mazda :3

[shell void]

no such thing unless it’s defective

[hoary hatch]

I hope it is 😈

[hoary hatch]

I am confused what you think this is, if not normal thermal paste

It's nothing exotic. Not phase change. Not liquid metal

[pure garnet]

it’s quite possible it was, yet another ebay pc part (b stock official store)

[hoary hatch]

It's just thermal paste
Arctic has simply released a new iteration that they claim has better performance than the old formulation

[pure garnet]

no more used hardware in the daily not from friends

[pallid marsh]

EVGA had entered the chat

[hoary hatch]

Offer them $1

[young void]

As long as it stays shapeable ill be happy

Mx6 that came with my 4 different lf3-lf3 pro was just not it had 1 that kinda stuck to the cpu but then just wiped it off was to ridiculous to spread and put on some mx4

Wether it got to hot in transit or whatever the case

[potent wing]

I meant

Does the current thermal paste we have already still do the job?

[floral spear]

I fucked up applying the MX6

[young void]

It can be finicky if not a good batch

[floral spear]

So I just used Thermal Grizzly

[young void]

I like paste that just works ya know, spreads easy covers the surface, cools

[shell void]

we gotta stop buying used and open box shit fr

[potent wing]

I dont think thatll happen in years

[odd sable]

more for me

[young void]

Turn our problems into happy lil pasted processors

[devout ridge]

so much paste

[odd sable]

you manually spread your paste?

[potent wing]

You repaste stuff?

[odd sable]

i just put a glob there, and call it done

[young void]

I finger paint it

[shell void]

haram

[young void]

I wash my hands first to prevent most oils but non the less always works and temps are solid

[potent wing]

....i dont think my pc has died or crashed thermal wise so im pog

[odd sable]

sometimes you should

[shell void]

same the last time that i seated my waterblock i just dropped a whole gram glob of duronaut and screwed it down

[odd sable]

paste does dry out, and become less effective

[potent wing]

i have no paste

[shell void]

it squeezed out but whatever it's easy to clean up

[young void]

All have mx4 lol

[potent wing]

plus i have a liquid aio

[young void]

Dropped temps 10c-15c or so (softmodded consoles show mb and cpu temp on home screen)

[odd sable]

wdym no paste?

you SHOULD be using thermal paste

[potent wing]

on hand

[odd sable]

ahh, ok, thats not really a problem

[devout ridge]

this has absolutely nothing to do with paste

i keep a tube of paste on hand for whatever bs i do

[potent wing]

i dont have any paste

[devout ridge]

usually 10g tubes of the noctua stuff

[odd sable]

i thought that looked like a p3, i was right

[devout ridge]

solidly performant stuff that i can get in decent sized tubes

[pure garnet]

fr

[odd sable]

https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Grizzly-Aeronaut-Performance-Paste/dp/B0987QFP4P

[tranquil finch]

guys, idk why, but i have terrible stuttering in hogwarts legacy, only in Hogsmead.

[pallid marsh]

You have a hoarding problem

[young void]

I hate that my thermal printer prints 1 page out first before it does the next, I even turned off test page in the settings but no matter what I try

[young void]

They all totally dont have a 2tb hdd+adapter and a 40 pin cable upgrade, fatxplorer ftw

[odd sable]

you should see what i have....

[pallid marsh]

Wait did Nintendo make clear purple GameCube controllers?!

[odd sable]

and dont worry, im buying more still

[young void]

I wish, alie express controller

[pallid marsh]

You don't need more servers or hdds

[odd sable]

im not buying more servers, or HDDs

[pallid marsh]

Oh

[odd sable]

im buying more GPUs, and waifu figures

[young void]

No more chimp hot swappin

[odd sable]

ive already got almost 2 pallets of figures to ship, which is going to be fun

[pallid marsh]

I have a great look of disappointment on my face reading waifu figures

[odd sable]

yes, two pallets

[odd sable]

i have hundreds (when including nendoroids)

[hoary hatch]

Sure, but that doesn't mean people/companies shouldn't stop striving for improvement

[odd sable]

also, why are you disappointed now?

theres no way i haven't mentioned them before

[hoary hatch]

I also just use mx4 because it's cheap and I'm cheap

[wraith steeple]

[odd sable]

oh, actually, wait, i forgot about the statue that is a pallet by itself, that exists too

i've got a 1:1

[hoary hatch]

That may be 1 too many Xboxes

[steel stream]

I think he needs another

[young void]

Down to 3 rn not including my brothers

Not worth fixing up old consoles unfortunately peeps be like ill give you $10

[floral spear]

What the fuck is this question

[young void]

Every one of those had 20 years of gooch and gunk to clean was foul

Xboxs get dirtier then ps2s unfortunately

[fervent chasm]

50FPS 1440p in browser

this is a local test but im getting closer and closer to that target 60FPS with WebRTC

This is the worst project ive ever thought of doing but I want to finish it now, in too deep

[floral spear]

Why are you. Playing overwatch

[pallid marsh]

On a scale from 1-10 , 1 being one used $8k car, 10 being ten $8k used cars what would you waifu/amine total figures be

[fervent chasm]

Was playing earlier, but rn needed something with movement to test my streaming app

[young void]

That is alot of waifu things lol

[fervent chasm]

Trying to get 60FPS stream in a browser with super low latency, similar to Sunshine and Moonlight

[floral spear]

This reminds me of that one guy who's making GTA Vice City playable on a web browser

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-uzi-gif-26753888

[odd sable]

who dat?

[young void]

Rogue when their pallet arrives like

[fervent chasm]

You can run an OS in browser too

[potent wing]

can you run a browser on a browser

[floral spear]

I made a promise to myself that I won't buy an anime figurine till I get the proper room and shelf for it

[odd sable]

uhhh, thats really hard to say without me actually going through it and adding them all up

[fervent chasm]

The issue with what im doing is its not very easy to do alone, IE this is what Chrome Remote Desktop does, but they have google behind them

[young void]

|| just teasin ||

[floral spear]

Because last time I bought a figurine, it broke :(

[odd sable]

not counting my 1:1, theres a price range of $30 to $1300 for a single figure

[hoary hatch]

Tangentially related
My roommate went to Japan with a friend since neither had ever been. He thought they were both down to try and do as much sightseeing as possible for his photography. In reality, she kept dragging him to shops to find anime figures and they spent a significant amount of time just... shopping

[odd sable]

oh, also, theres a large difference between amount paid and current market value

my 1:1 for example has gone up in value by about $5k

[fervent chasm]

Whats cool about this is there's technically no ports needed to be opened either, technically

[pallid marsh]

Seeing a few shops is fine but not spending time looking at gorgeous Japan is a huge L

[odd sable]

but, excluding that one, because its very much an outlier, its probably somewhere in the $10-$20k range

[hoary hatch]

My thoughts exactly
Teaches him to align on an agenda when planning travel with someone in the future though

[odd sable]

dragging him to shops to find anime figures
i mean, akiba will do that to you

[pallid marsh]

So one used working Tesla

[odd sable]

probably, yes

i can give you a more accurate estimate later, once i count up the different categories

[hoary hatch]

I didn't ask if they went there, but they probably did
They were primarily in tokyo

[odd sable]

if they were primarily in tokyo, they went to akiba

[hoary hatch]

When I was in Japan I spent about 16 hours in Tokyo

[odd sable]

flying in and out?

[pallid marsh]

You should anyway for insurance shit don't want the next Cali fire to melt them all

[hoary hatch]

Flying through haneda to southern japan

[odd sable]

oh, i know what i have

[wraith steeple]

Does Akiba have any retro tech stores? Would love to cop a PC98 or FM Towns if given the opportunity

[odd sable]

i just dont know their worth

[wraith steeple]

[young void]

Ive only been to Japan on pogo

[hoary hatch]

12 Tokyo layover on the way over, 4 hour layover on the way back

[odd sable]

i have a nearly perfectly accurate list on MFC

[young void]

[odd sable]

i say "nearly" because i haven't audited it recently, but i have kept it up to date, generally

MFC: myfigurecollection

[hoary hatch]

Landing in an airport at 7pm after being up for 20 hours is a great way to instantly adjust to timzone

[odd sable]

yup, ive done that

[hoary hatch]

PST to JST, absolutely no jetlag

[odd sable]

i think i was awake for 26 hours when i returned from europe

CET -> PST

similar time difference

[hoary hatch]

Rented a pod cabin thing in the airport for the night. Probably only got 2 hours of sleep, but I got a shower and was able to brush my teeth which was worth the $80

Downside to those is if someone has a loud phone alarm and they sleep through it, well, you get to enjoy a 30 minutes of endless alarms

[fervent chasm]

not even 1MB/s look at the quality

[hoary hatch]

Alternatively
When I went pacific time to central time for work, I stayed on PST the whole trip

[odd sable]

thats only a 2hr difference though

[pallid marsh]

If he pays for my ticket I will join him on a nature only trip to Japan no loud busy places or shops

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/japanese-japan-blue-anime-background-gif-13506527275503452149

[hoary hatch]

Which is why I just slept in and stayed up late

[odd sable]

iirc, there was some retro stuff there, but idk if you'd find what you want
note: was there 3yrs ago

[edgy laurel]

whats doing the encoding and streaming? sunshine?

I'm blown away by the quality and latency (lack thereof) you can achieve with sunshine on LAN

[livid flame]

Should be CPU if it’s VP9

Don’t think any GPUs can do that atm

[edgy laurel]

but it also says HW accelerated

but what I really meant was software

as in the software being used

[fervent chasm]

custom C++ app

[wraith steeple]

I see. I do know that it's basically the most common place for finding this sort of thing (though I could be wrong)

[fervent chasm]

the host/server runs that app, it hosts a webpage also which is a custom frotend that does the decoding using hardware acceleration, preferably

the encoding is software tho

[edgy laurel]

ah

[fervent chasm]

im sitll not sure how to do VP9 encoding with GPU

[livid flame]

Apparently arc can VP9

[edgy laurel]

you were talking about this earlier and I was thinking about how to send a sunshine stream to a browser

[fervent chasm]

you cant, had to write my own script to do the encoding

[livid flame]

Looks like only Intel ARC can encode in it Daniel. Best be getting that b580 asap

[fervent chasm]

theres a github repo out there but its only proxying the stream to browser

[edgy laurel]

well it would only be decoding on the receiving end

[fervent chasm]

its also a bit different with browser, if you want anything low latency you must use WebRTC

[pallid marsh]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cmTp99/kingston-fury-beast-rgb-8-gb-1-x-8-gb-ddr5-5200-cl40-memory-kf552c40bba-8 chat it's over it cost $120 for the cheapest in stock 8gb stick

[edgy laurel]

its the web server portion thats interesting

[potent wing]

as i have fury now xD

[livid flame]

$120 for 1 dimm 8gb* 5200 cl40

[potent wing]

we are screwed, arent we?

[wraith steeple]

[edgy laurel]

that was 32GB 6000CL30 pricing not too long ago

[pallid marsh]

8gb not 16

[fervent chasm]

I wanted to try Sunshine but they use like game stream protocols or something, I didnt feel like doing all of that

[livid flame]

I corrected 🙏

[pallid marsh]

Oops didn't realize

[livid flame]

I mean we could all just sell our ram kits. Get a ps5 and still had money left over

[edgy laurel]

yeah thinkin back i'm not sure how to recieve the stream from that without something like Moonlight

there is more happening there for that handshake

[fervent chasm]

All mine does is:

Browser → "Hey, I want to connect!" → Server
(sends connection request via HTTP)

Server → "Okay, here's my info!" → Browser
(sends back connection details)

and once they exchange info, they establish a p2p connection using WebRTC

[edgy laurel]

yeah thats basic easy HTTP stuff so its simple, and effective

if you're not trying to also control

[livid flame]

Simple works best.

[fervent chasm]

WebRTC sucked to understand

[edgy laurel]

you built youtube in a box

[fervent chasm]

But I had to do it if I wanted UDP

[fervent chasm]

nah with youtube you dont have to worry about the latency like that

p2p latency I mean

since I want to get near instant frames its real annoying

You can actually get BETTER results using just HTTP requests and sending JPEG frames

but that means youre doing 100Mbps bitrate

[livid flame]

Daniel to start the next twitch killer. Read it here first.

[fervent chasm]

Here I can get pretty good quality with just 1MB/s

[fervent chasm]

Its not as hard as it seems, especially when you can get AI to do the research

[livid flame]

Isn’t that basically 10mbps rate? So partner twitch level

[fervent chasm]

"How does chrome remote desktop stream low latency high resolution to browser" is how I started

[edgy laurel]

smart

now i wanna reinstall sunshine again and play with it (even though I have no practical use for it normally)

[fervent chasm]

Im doing this for something bigger

I wrote a Powershell CLI to manage Hyper-V VMs with GPU partitions

So I can make gaming VMs easier

But I want to migrate it to a web UI in the browser instead

With the ability to get the stream to the VM in my browser, sort of like GeForce NOW

[edgy laurel]

gaming VM's, huh. Wouldn't that require a two way communication for "control"?

or is that where WebRTC comes into play

[fervent chasm]

Like capture clicks and keys in browser and pass to the VM?

[edgy laurel]

Yeah, for "control" of the game

[fervent chasm]

I have no clue yet, was pretty simple in Python

[livid flame]

I always assumed the mouse data was the biggest input issue for game streaming

[fervent chasm]

but I had to switch to C++ because Python just was not it, couldnt get any good framerate

[fervent chasm]

Yah you can send any data over WebRTC so

it will be the same low latency as the stream

[livid flame]

People with 1khz-8khz mice potentially using 12k dpi gives you a ballache for input

[fervent chasm]

well, each message has to be less than 256KB i think

[livid flame]

Well interpolating the input

[fervent chasm]

thats all for later, first I want a better stream

I really want to use GPU for the VP9 encoding, NVENC supports it which means NVIDIA GPUs can do it

I just dont know how, yet

[turbid locust]

I’ve never been able to tell the difference in beyond 1000hz polling

other than absolutely nuking battery life

[fervent chasm]

========== SERVER METRICS (1s) ==========
Connection: CONNECTED
FPS: 41 | Bitrate: 12264 Kbps | Frames Sent: 42

CAPTURE LATENCY:
  Avg: 0ms | Min: 0ms | Max: 0ms
ENCODE LATENCY:
  Avg: 22ms | Min: 16ms | Max: 50ms
SEND LATENCY:
  Avg: 0ms | Min: 0ms | Max: 0ms
TOTAL PIPELINE:
  Avg: 24ms | Min: 17ms | Max: 51ms
FRAME INTERVAL:
  Avg: 24ms | Min: 17ms | Max: 51ms

WARNING: Dropped 140 frames (queue overflow)
========================================

Still some issues to iron out

But yah, the encoding latency is really getting me

[livid flame]

I thought Nvidia removed vp9

[fervent chasm]

website says its still there

[livid flame]

As they introduced the encoder and no one used it

[pure garnet]

if you move the mouse like an insane person on the mouse tester it might report over 1000hz

but yeah it’s just a battery blaster unless you run a meme dpi in games

[livid flame]

Deciding but not encoding

[fervent chasm]

Oh thats decoding

[edgy laurel]

look at the table https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVDEC

[fervent chasm]

Welp, there goes that ieo

[livid flame]

I think they did it for the 900 series

[pure garnet]

because 800dpi isn’t high enough to reliably give info fast enough

[livid flame]

But then removed it for 10 series

[edgy laurel]

depends on the card

[fervent chasm]

I have a 4090

[livid flame]

Intel arc supports encoding

[edgy laurel]

full VP9 decoding

[pure garnet]

unnamed matx msi motherboard still lost at sea

[fervent chasm]

Maybe if I change to my new CPU i can use the iGPU for the VP9 encoding

I just got the 285k

But I still havent finished the build and moving everything into it

[turbid locust]

I be on boomer dpi so

[livid flame]

XE also has encoding

[pure garnet]

i use 800 or 400 depending on how i’m feeling

anything else feels too fast in windows

[livid flame]

Although you’re still putting that workload on your cpu

[turbid locust]

I’ve been on 800 for like 10 years

[edgy laurel]

Tiger Lake on has VP9 encoding through QuickSync

[fervent chasm]

Isnt that still faster? rn i have no iGPU

[livid flame]

It should be

[pure garnet]

when i got my first gaming mouse i used 1600 dpi

[edgy laurel]

QuickSync is the way to go if you have it

[turbid locust]

valid

[pure garnet]

it was the roccat lua

[edgy laurel]

same

[pure garnet]

actually not a bad mouse at the time

[fervent chasm]

I hope this project turns into something larger at some point but I really dont feel like integrating support for a bunch of devices

[livid flame]

10? Pfft. I can’t remember how long I’ve been on 800 for

[edgy laurel]

my first gaming mouse was a Gen1 DeathAdder in 2013 and that same mouse is still at my office being used by someone

[pure garnet]

oh i broke the lua years ago trying to take it apart

[livid flame]

Mx510 is 21 years ago, so probably been using 800 since then

[pure garnet]

wasn’t the brightest attempt and tore off one of the mouse click parts

[livid flame]

When the maximum dpi was 800 21 years ago

Kids don’t know they were born

[fervent chasm]

I could try h.264 but i had issues before with it

that has way more support

[livid flame]

H.264 is shite

To put it bluntly

[fervent chasm]

yah but more support

i was getting like 5ms frame encoding times wiht it when using hardware acceleration

software with vp9 is like 20ms

[livid flame]

How’s AV1?

[fervent chasm]

Havent touched it

[livid flame]

Worth a try

From a streamers/ recording Stand point it has some great flexibility on image quality

I have no idea on the latency to render

[fervent chasm]

its so weird how CRD can do 60FPS with much better quality than mine on VP9

I wish they made more stuff open source

I specifically chose C++ because their encoder is also written in it

Switching to VP8 could decrease encoding times I think but also increase bandwidth

[livid flame]

1mb/s is golden

[young void]

C++ is 2nd best next to raw code. Its C, ++ raises eyebrows "ill see myself out"

[fervent chasm]

Its good yah so maybe I can eat the increase

[edgy laurel]

MB or Mb?

[fervent chasm]

MB

[edgy laurel]

darnit @livid flame confusing me

[livid flame]

Sorry 🙂

[edgy laurel]

lol

[livid flame]

It all depends on what you want the project for

[fervent chasm]

It bounces around

I had to add chunking which sucks but it adds way less overhead than i thought

[livid flame]

VBR will. That’s a good thing though

Although iirc you want it to be constant and consistent

That should reduce overall latency

[young void]

[fervent chasm]

my script uses the VP9 built in VBR, with some extra adaptive logic

[heavy mantle]

@wraith steeple does this remind you if anything

[fervent chasm]

and adaptive QP

[heavy mantle]

After looking up the parts it was a banger 2008-9 build

[livid flame]

IIRC streaming services add blank data to keep a constant bit rate to reduce latency

[fervent chasm]

will look into that

[heavy mantle]

Omg it has speedometers too

[edgy laurel]

reminds me of 2010

[livid flame]

Until I knew this it confused me why I should stream with cbr and not vbr. I do not understand the magic behind it

[fervent chasm]

it took me so long to even understand streaming, like keyframes, delta, bframe

[heavy mantle]

Yess

[fervent chasm]

Ive been at this project since the 1st of this month

ive only now gotten to a point where i feel a little happy with how far it has progressed

[heavy mantle]

I spoke to the owner and he said he got-this as his work powerhouse

[livid flame]

B frames are dumb

[fervent chasm]

yah i have disabled that

[brave panther]

Amateurs

[livid flame]

AI will sort that out eventually and boom. No grainy streams

Until then best we got

[fervent chasm]

its not good for realtime

[livid flame]

Imagine streaming with DLSS MFG, frame generation and then an AI compute making sense of that for 120fps. Will be a mess.

[heavy mantle]

One stick of ddr2

[wraith steeple]

Looks like my motherboard from that era

[livid flame]

I have one of these on my rig in the shed

[wraith steeple]

Does it happen to be a EP45-U3DP?

[heavy mantle]

Yup

[livid flame]

I even have an OCZ DDR2 stick. Remember them?

[wraith steeple]

I still have that board from back then

[livid flame]

This is what I have

[potent wing]

when are we putting fuel guages on pc cases

[livid flame]

Generic pic as I’m not going to the shed

[livid flame]

That was done years ago

[devout ridge]

what would you measure?

[potent wing]

my pc gets 33 miles per gallon

[devout ridge]

my pc gets .1mm^2 (equivalent to 20mpg)

[livid flame]

The power your PC uses today could give you 80miles in your Tesla

Imagine PSU wattages as miles per Tesla.

[heavy mantle]

Ill try to max out this pc and get the best quad core there is and a crossfire set up

[potent wing]

my pc is too realible for tesla /s

[fervent chasm]

Im trying to find also better ways to capture, rn using Windows.Graphics.Capture API

Was using DXGI before that, and DGI before that

[heavy mantle]

Leme asm my dad am sure we have a bunch of ddr2 dims

[edgy laurel]

funny I was just poking around at that in Sunshine

[potent wing]

i thought that said ddr2 slims

[wraith steeple]

Also still have the GPU it had with it too

[heavy mantle]

Ooo what was it

[wraith steeple]

GTX 285

[heavy mantle]

Ah mines came with a gt 9600g

[frank zealot]

I gotta say that this dude's 3d print catalog is fuckin' NUTS.

15 bucks (one month of membership to his patreon) gets you all these STLs
https://www.andyvalentine.co.uk/patreon-catalogue/

[potent wing]

i miss the gtx 900 series

[frank zealot]

why

the 3.5gb lawsuit / scandal?

capping at 6gb VRAM?

[edgy laurel]

I had that

[frank zealot]

I had two lol

[edgy laurel]

i never did get my money

[frank zealot]

same

[brave panther]

fun times

[edgy laurel]

wasn't it something like $20-$30

[heavy mantle]

Oh also wasnt the best cpu for this system a q9 something something

[potent wing]

980 ti cause it was the first gpu i knew and or wanted

[frank zealot]

it wasn't huge, yeah

[brave panther]

core 2 quad?

[heavy mantle]

Ya

[fervent chasm]

using my other monitor to play

it kinda hurts the eyes, not doing that again

[wraith steeple]

CPU was a Core 2 Duo E8400 IIRC (definitely had a Core 2 Duo that I know)

[heavy mantle]

Im thinking to get gtx 280s or 285 like what bassbone got sli

[edgy laurel]

haha yeah i'm doing that now. its so neat. Zero perceptible latency

[edgy laurel]

E8400 or E8500 was super popular

[potent wing]

amd fx 6000 series moment

[heavy mantle]

Ill just look up whats the best of the best and get it there

And what should i get for gpus

[wraith steeple]

Ah then E8400 was probably it. This was in 2009 so sounds about right

[fervent chasm]

Yah I used Sunshine+Moonlight to play games while in class at school

it has really low latency

you really dont need more than 100Mbps up or down either

1080p is what, 25Mbps at 60fps?

[brave panther]

latency hevily depends on your ISP setup

[fervent chasm]

I just want that in browser

[fervent chasm]

yah but I mean for a remote desktop app, its really low latency since its self hosted/no proxy

[heavy mantle]

I was thinking to get the best cross fire or sli set up there is, tho am not sure id sli is supported on my mb

[brave panther]

latency is just distance packets need to traverse

[wraith steeple]

The EP45-U3DP should support Crossfire

[fervent chasm]

you add latency with middleman

overhead I mean

[brave panther]

middleman is ISP

[heavy mantle]

Ah okay but not sli tho right

[brave panther]

if they have shit peering then you are sol

[wraith steeple]

Correct, P45 based mobos don't support SLI

[potent wing]

fx 6300 shoutout

first somewhat meh cpu

[wraith steeple]

Natively at least

[heavy mantle]

Ooo

[young void]

Bro even Facebook wont let me search items what is even happening today. First playstore now facebook

[heavy mantle]

So there are other ways 🙏

[fervent chasm]

stuff like vcpkg makes shit so easy for people like me who dont want to learn C++ stuff entirely

all the package management and linking I dont have to do anymore

[pallid marsh]

I'm blinded

[young void]

Same usually at least has result/prior searches filling the page

[steel stream]

hello riley

[brave panther]

you have beeen banned from using calculator

[heavy mantle]

Sooo dual gtx 590s if i found a workaround on the mobo, if not then crossfire hd 6990 it is

And those are the best pcie x16 2.0 gpus for around time accurate build

[arctic bronze]

Use the duel gtx 590s and create a machine learning algorithm

[heavy mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/kakashi-thumbs-up-naruto-gif-15792601

[wraith steeple]

I vaguely remember there was a hack to work around it but errrrrr. Sounds more trouble than worth FWIW

[heavy mantle]

Ill buy both sets and test then out and see what getts better and ill report

Oh also one last thing what os should i put?

[potent wing]

windows 7

[wraith steeple]

Though if you're deadset on dual GPUs, crossfire will work fine

[potent wing]

windows 10 could be good

windows 11 is

[heavy mantle]

I was thinking vista ultimate but 7 ultimate is basically the same ui and everything and more opptions

[potent wing]

might as well

[young void]

2 popular search function not working on 2 diffrent apps has me super confused

[heavy mantle]

Ph right i was also going to do an aio for this thing

The cpus in this era gave huge amount of heat so might aswell go all out

[young void]

My wife can search just fine, on my 2nd phone the playstore is still borked, guess ill check my other phones Facebook marketplace. Just wild

[wraith steeple]

I had mine running XP and 7

[heavy mantle]

Okadoka so win 7 ultimate it is

[edgy laurel]

unless downdetector is picking something up, probably a local issue. time to clear app data or whatever you do on android. its been years at this point for me

[young void]

I cleared data and cache on my s25u for the playstore and that ones borked on both phones ill try clearing fb

[edgy laurel]

https://downdetector.com/status/google-play/

looks bad, but its nothing

[young void]

My s21U can at least use Facebook search

[fervent chasm]

Appaerntly CRD uses Dirty region tracking, i encode entire frames instead of only the changed places

[potent wing]

i mean it could just be facebook shitty app

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/tech-support-helpdesk-it-crowd-gif-1185061378070743090

[potent wing]

is there a social media app that isnt shit

not community wise but app wise

[devout ridge]

no

[edgy laurel]

ruh roh

[devout ridge]

everyday i’m reminded people are in happy relationships, and i’m not

[potent wing]

also

[wraith steeple]

XP is in a weird place in the retro computing world. Age wise, it absolutely qualifies for being retro..... But it also had the support of a wide range of hardware spanning well into Haswell. Though it's hard to determine what would be considered an ideal 'Ultimate XP rig' that I see on the Tubes

[potent wing]

screw the new reddit ai that they updated

[young void]

Its madness lol usually a clear data should fix but idk someone's got sphaggeti code I feel it

[edgy laurel]

https://youtu.be/qjqPT89KaCc?si=emG4Eesy4sKpqe2y

[fervent chasm]

Almost 1k lines

Im trying so hard to keep it below 1k

[potent wing]

you know

when is discord adding ai, it feels like they wouldve by now?

[fervent chasm]

it probably runs in the background

[potent wing]

Its only the most popular messaging app

[fervent chasm]

And a lot of the user wants are just made with discord bots with AI querying

[edgy laurel]

this is a wild statement

[fervent chasm]

id think its wechat

[edgy laurel]

meanwhile iMessage and WhatsApp like "what the hell"

[young void]

Cleared data and they took my marketplace tab, hate it here. Works if I use the 3 lines though and select marketplace

[potent wing]

social messaging app?

inb4 they literally make a announcement on it next month

[wraith steeple]

https://youtu.be/0T97XDEURH4?si=6ecs_9Wtudbqh7zi
HT made a video commenting about the "ultimate (insert OS here machine" topic. And sure it's in 1994 but still applies

https://youtu.be/dup6KojfQ34?si=MYoleDAq3nE_8ny4
And another based around Windows 98

[potent wing]

all my homies use windows longhorn

[young void]

Where it should be on my other phone sighsss. Whoever is coding these things i hope steps on a pile of legos. Can't have nice things

[potent wing]

meta ai coded

[young void]

So must be playstore search id suppose

Its been such a dumb day xD

[young void]

The marketplace tab magically re appeared on my main phone.... and search works again ffs. Not gonna question it. Now if playstore would be so kind

[livid flame]

What yours is at the top?

[young void]

On the 2nd Pic/phone it was

[livid flame]

Bottom for me

[young void]

Thats weird famss

You on iphone or android?

[livid flame]

Iphone

But you’d expect the mobile apps to be consistent

[potent wing]

lol nope

[young void]

Myte just be apple vs android things. But ya they need to quit messing with the ui. Making my eye twitch

[potent wing]

tiktok only had dark mode for ihpone

iphone for a amount of time

[livid flame]

Dark mode is the only mode

If you’re not using dark mode you’re not cool

[young void]

Ima lame, its well known

[livid flame]

My missus hates it

[young void]

I just havent tried it for most things tbh

[livid flame]

I like not having the white on my phone blind me

[young void]

Ill turn it on and try it for a day

Can't hurt any

[livid flame]

The only time I don’t use dark mode is outlook for work. Just cause everyone uses so many different colours and all use white… it gets a bit ugh when you use dark mode

Like I’d be highlighting in yellow loads and people would struggle to read

Or best yet… I use white

[fervent chasm]

@livid flame i will try AV1 tonight

[livid flame]

Good luck

[fervent chasm]

I also need to try the dirty frame stuff CRD does

[pure garnet]

i just blasted my pc with static electricity @shell void

that is so not awesome sauce

[livid flame]

Did it die though

[pure garnet]

so far not yet

[raw sierra]

just booted a new rig up

what should i click?

[livid flame]

Y

[raw sierra]

new rig and this is first boot, are u sure?

[edgy laurel]

sigh

[steel stream]

what's the worst that could happen

[livid flame]

If I wasn’t sure I wouldn’t reply

[raw sierra]

ok

screen went black and green mobo light

[fervent chasm]

oh man, I hope hardware encoding will shorten the code a bit

Im already at 1300

trying to get AV1 with software encoding

[edgy laurel]

av1 software encoders are ass

[fervent chasm]

its a step towards hardware

i just want a proof of concept with av1 encoding

ffmpeg doesnt support vp9 with nvenc

[topaz veldt]

whats with the font on your name

[shell void]

1440p text

[edgy laurel]

"8bit"

[topaz veldt]

that's crazy

[livid flame]

I see it normal

[fringe vigil]

hi#

[livid flame]

Hiya Jorj

[fervent chasm]

jorj why no random photo this time

[wraith steeple]

[young void]

My lawyer said that cps myte try to take my kid again, but if they do the judge wont be happy. Im terrified rn

I just cant fams

[wraith steeple]

[pure garnet]

that really sucks

[young void]

He said they shouldn't and itd be really dumb if they did but I gotta prepare for the worst

And that kills me

[livid flame]

If they do. Sue.

Sue the shit off them

[young void]

I likely will man im sweating my chest hurts. I just got her back in school starting tomorrow and her first speech therapy done today

She's my first born baby man

[livid flame]

Can you call cps to ask? Odd as it sounds

Maybe get something setup to counter or relax yourself if they say you’re good

[young void]

They called me today and it was the prior worker, stating that I didnt cooperate with their last visit with the new case/worker this last week and that i have one more chance if id like to. And I responded with anything further can be through my attourney as we already finished this last case. I still suspect it was her. Apparently the call was 1 hour after I got my kid back

[devout ridge]

the judge won’t be happy at you or at cps

[young void]

I have cameras installed now at least

[young void]

Lawyer said they'd be upset with cps and that im doing the right thing im just scared man

[livid flame]

Didn’t cooperate 🤦‍♂️ I read that as American speak for “I’m on a power trip “

Seen too many cop clips

[rocky shoal]

She IS on a power trip

It's disgusting

[young void]

Thats how it feels, she didnt get her way the first time so making things harder now

[topaz veldt]

https://www.tiktok.com/@pampoenwurm/video/7564690969505828114?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7528558768016885261

[young void]

I just cant believe this even still happening i give the world to my kids

[potent wing]

didnt that guy get outed as a

[topaz veldt]

Hm?

[young void]

Im trying its just if they do thats at least a week theyll take her from me until ill be before the judge again. At least hes honorable

[topaz veldt]

I have no idea who that guy is

[fringe vigil]

lmaoooo

[fervent chasm]

Turns out AV1 hardware encoding is easier to implement than software lol

[livid flame]

Tell that to twitch and kick

[edgy laurel]

burrrrrrn

[livid flame]

YouTube though. They’re the good guys for once

[edgy laurel]

youtube streaming is fantastic, support wise

had 4K 45Mb/s HEVC /w HDR stream going

and AV1, but no HDR

[fervent chasm]

The dirty frames arent worth it, drops to 30FPS from 50 but does save quite a bit of bandwidth

[livid flame]

Twitch compresses so much now it’s ridiculous

[fringe vigil]

its jonny elbows, the one and only, the ladies get a high five

[livid flame]

Same settings in 2018 look way better than 2025 it’s a joke

YouTube? Unchanged. They’re pretty awesome for streaming

[fervent chasm]

what about kick

[livid flame]

Relatively new and comparable to twitch

The amount they pay out to streamers you can let them off. They need a lot more traction before they can afford to invest in the platform

[fervent chasm]

I did read that they pay better than Twitch

[livid flame]

When you’re paying 2x more than twitch for basically the same visuals. Fair play

Twitch became lazy and invested in aggressive transcoding to get more people in. And just nose dived visual quality, part laziness and part aggressive mobile strategy

Twitch streams also have more ads than a 20min hardware unboxed video

[low sorrel]

wait a minute

i should sell my old ram

i have 32gb of ddr4 sitting around

[dapper junco]

Kick strat is eerily similar to old mixer from what has happened so far
also Kick is literally using the same infra like twitch, so no surprise that the UI and stuff are similar, to basically a copycat

[fervent chasm]

I might have to switch to CBR

The VBR is causing almost like "blinking"

whenever theres a keyframe

[dapper junco]

It's a requirement for streaming

[fervent chasm]

what, CBR?

Was working fine earlier with VBR but VP9

[livid flame]

It will do that. I think of it as hitching from a viewers perspective. Goes out of sync and just jumps

[dapper junco]

Yea
I think there's none that support variable bitrate or know how to deal with variable bitrate ingest

[livid flame]

Streaming platforms support VBR. They just tell you to use CBR

[fervent chasm]

ok yah, CBR fixed it

[livid flame]

Several reasons why

[fervent chasm]

lemme do an OBS capture of both monitors

[livid flame]

Technically it’s easier to implement for many reasons

[fervent chasm]

you can see the latency, its pretty good

although its localhost

[drifting garden]

hey guilty im still struggling with 1% lows in my fps drops so like idk what to do i thinkrolling back nvidia drivers to a known stable one could work

[fervent chasm]

Still some tuning to do

Still around 10Mbps

I cant tell if that amount of latency will be noticeable if Im not comparing side by side

It seems like a good amount

I need to up that FPS count tho

[livid flame]

Looks like a lot of dropped frames

[fervent chasm]

yah encoder drops a lot

queue is constantly overflowing

[livid flame]

Always going to get dropped frames on faster pace but that’s quite a bit

Faster paced gaming that is

[drifting garden]

bruh ive been experiencing poor frame pacing and screen tearing despite g sync and v sync settings being optimal i cant do ts anymore

[livid flame]

Need <1%

Looks promising though tbh

[drifting garden]

my 1% lows are dying now too dropping from m350 to 150

[fervent chasm]

I had way less frame drops on the encoder side when I was just encoding frames in full

its a bit backwards it seems but

ill go back to the original method

probably user error

[pure garnet]

need 9800x3d fr

[fervent chasm]

Im glad I started making backups when I made progress, I can just copy and paste the old code

dont have to rewrite

I feel a bit in over my head

[drifting garden]

can someone help pls 🙁

im gonna cry 😭😭😭😭

[fervent chasm]

did you try #1027757333117415424

[drifting garden]

yes a million times

no one answers

[fervent chasm]

yah it be like that sometimes

[livid flame]

Rain those little Gen Z tears down on me

[drifting garden]

thatts mean

im really upset my pc isnt performing as it should

[fervent chasm]

did you ask it nicely

[livid flame]

Did you buy a GeForce 5050?

[drifting garden]

yes for 2 months

[livid flame]

Link ya thread

It best have full specs and details of games

[drifting garden]

bro it has sm

[edgy laurel]

not aware of any unstable recent ones

[drifting garden]

i made a reddit post bc no one was responding can i js link u that

[livid flame]

Oh Christ

[edgy laurel]

I feel like we've went over your options already

[drifting garden]

i had to install reddit for the first time

[livid flame]

You asked those people.

[fervent chasm]

yah I think the dirty frame issue was on me, 300 extra LoC for it

[drifting garden]

bro i had no choice

[edgy laurel]

how does one install reddit

[livid flame]

Phone app

[edgy laurel]

oh

[livid flame]

He’s Gen Z

[edgy laurel]

right, right. everything is an app

[drifting garden]

bro idek anymore i tried it all except reinstalling windows and rollingback nvidia drivers

[livid flame]

There’s an app for that!

[edgy laurel]

i mean, DDU...?

[livid flame]

Well that’s an option to do

[drifting garden]

i updating amd chipset, tried g sync, v sync, updating bios

[steel stream]

what specs in your laptop

[drifting garden]

now a laptop

[fervent chasm]

Arent a lot of apps just the webpage but in an "app"?

[livid flame]

Reinstall windows. It’s shite but tbfh I’ve had to do it recently because Microsoft broke Minecraft bedrock

[drifting garden]

hold on

[edgy laurel]

stutters are generally the system, something else running the background thats not agreeing. If your system is dirty with a ton of garbage installed/running..

[steel stream]

what specs in your pc

[drifting garden]

im linking hte thread

[drifting garden]

my pc is the opposite

i try my best to make sure thing slike tthis DONT HAPPEN

[edgy laurel]

we don't need the thread, this is a common problem with a set number of things you cando

take a screenshot of your Startup tab in Task Manager

(my favorite thing to peek at)

[drifting garden]

mine too lol here

[steel stream]

i just wanna know the specs

[brisk jolt]

I looked at one of mine who I somehow call friends and I was blown away

[livid flame]

If he says it’s 1% lows in Fortnite I’m gonna just see myself to the door with a bottle of whisky

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/drugbusta1-gif-6615366545959979992

[edgy laurel]

I know its a 9800x3D but thats about it

[pure garnet]

nah fortnite has been broke since the last patch

[drifting garden]

every game, fortnite valorant minecraft RL

[drifting garden]

4080super + 9800x3d

32gbddr5 expo on

[brisk jolt]

copilot so slop that microsoft had to put it twice

[pure garnet]

did you try not using wallpaper engine

i feel like the gpu rendering a movie in the background probably doesn't help

[livid flame]

Program looks sus

[drifting garden]

bruh ibeen using that forever and it never caused anything its worth a shot but its been 5 year sof it

[edgy laurel]

and this occurs with EXPO off?

[drifting garden]

both yup

[brisk jolt]

anyways good mornin/afternoon/evening yall

[drifting garden]

im gonna give disabling wallpaper engine a shot but its so unlikely

[edgy laurel]

i mean, most of that list is disabled

[brisk jolt]

I’ve a friend who hasnt turned on EXPO nor XMP

[drifting garden]

1 thing is not disabled

idk what it can be atp

i dont think changing my settings will fix it i tried every setting combo

[fervent chasm]

How do Twitch do streams to multiple people? streamer -> twitch -> person/browser/client?

[edgy laurel]

time to wipe it. install the game, the latest driver and nothign else

[drifting garden]

wipe pc?

[edgy laurel]

OBS and plugins

[livid flame]

How are you recording your 1% lows?

[drifting garden]

nvidia overlay. i have no other monitoring software installed and never installed it for that reason alone

[livid flame]

I mean you called Reddit an app. How can we trust it’s not you and the performance is fine

[brisk jolt]

how do we not if they arent playing BL4 which compiles shaders like every 2 seconds

[drifting garden]

LMAO

[edgy laurel]

I think what he's experiencing is a visible stutter he can feel at the same time the 1% lows dip

[drifting garden]

liosten i do NOT use that app i had to force myself to get it due to lack of response and assistance elsewhere

do NOT associate me with that apop

[edgy laurel]

forget the reddit stuff its not important

[drifting garden]

yes.

[turbid locust]

@pure garnet

[edgy laurel]

Yes.

[pure garnet]

lucky duck mine is still lost at sea

[livid flame]

Videos of said stutter?

[drifting garden]

hmmm i guess its the last option hm

[topaz veldt]

it came!

[drifting garden]

i can take one idkw here to upload it

[fervent chasm]

Im still so pissed that I got a broken kit of 2x64 from amazon, I wanted it so bad, but I dont wanna reorder

[livid flame]

BB50 they could have used a better font

[brisk jolt]

OMG mines out for delivery

[turbid locust]

ngl I was expecting it to be the wrong board somehow still lmao

[brisk jolt]

It came, he saw, he conquered

[pure garnet]

i miss when couriers used to actually scan packages

[topaz veldt]

yeah wtf was the email about

[livid flame]

I miss when couriers used to deliver parcels. Now they’re just launched at ya door

[turbid locust]

But yeah 11 days and two vague tracking numbers lol

[turbid locust]

They intercepted my first package

[pure garnet]

oh no that email was right, they fucked up and sent a bunch of random boards with a lot of orders

[turbid locust]

Guy in hwbot got a B850 Gaming instead at first

[pure garnet]

and had to recall them

[dapper junco]

Can you open a different OBS instance and just stream it like normal?
It's impractical sure, but is it possible? This bugs me all the way back when I saw eposvox mess around with rx 7000 unlimited encode sessions

[edgy laurel]

What are we trying to do with this method again?

[dapper junco]

say 1 instance to twitch and another one to youtube?

[pure garnet]

the msi store can't handle more than 3 orders at once

else it breaks

[livid flame]

Must be made by a Brit

[pure garnet]

like my mlg shipped fine

[drifting garden]

if i have g sync on and my fps is capped at 327 due to g sync and my 1% lows are 250-260 is that normal

[low sorrel]

i use the phoneapp

[pure garnet]

now with the mpower it's mia

[turbid locust]

8500G arrives Thursday hopefully

[livid flame]

8500G 😬

[turbid locust]

Hopefully an update tomorrow. Mine went 5 days without an update and then BAM

[fervent chasm]

yah @livid flame it was the dirty frame system, im not dropping anything on the decoder side now

also up to 50FPS again

[low sorrel]

with what motherboard

[edgy laurel]

Maybe? I'm not sure why you would though. It would be a lot easier on the streamer to just use one of the many plugins to "consolidate" things. For example https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/aitum-multistream.1991/

[turbid locust]

these kids questioning my ball knowledge

[turbid locust]

Jerry you’re slow asf

[low sorrel]

huh

[edgy laurel]

Will even handle inline alternate canvas to stream to Tiktok and Youtube vertical

[brisk jolt]

Mac finally got his BMW MPower

[fervent chasm]

Ignore the quality, I wanted to crop it so its easier to see

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel heh

[dapper junco]

Yea, like i said, its super impractical when plugins are available to control multistream in one instance

[low sorrel]

oh did it arrive?

[brisk jolt]

look up

[drifting garden]

@edgy laurel when i reinstall windows and wipe pc how do i go abt that i know there are a lot of different options and i wanna just do it right and be done

[fervent chasm]

Yo this is actually crazy 1440p40+fps in browser with pretty low latency im actually psyched

[livid flame]

Sounds right. IIRC AV1 takes a little longer and results in dropping frames on encode if there’s too much happening.

Same as most encoders tbh

[edgy laurel]

thinking i can decipher that lol

[livid flame]

I did expect it to be slightly better than that for you

[fervent chasm]

the bitrate is much higher now tho

gets up to 20Mbps

[topaz veldt]

quick script to search for files with ".DV.", but not "DVD", and only if they do not also include "HDR" in the filename

[fervent chasm]

the dirty framing did save a lot on bandwidth

[edgy laurel]

huh, why would you not want it to find HDR?

[fervent chasm]

Still getting a ton of dropped frames on the encoder:

========== SERVER METRICS (1s) ==========
Connection: CONNECTED
FPS: 52 | Bitrate: 4688 Kbps | Frames Sent: 52

CAPTURE LATENCY:
  Avg: 7ms | Min: 1ms | Max: 14ms
ENCODE LATENCY:
  Avg: 11ms | Min: 9ms | Max: 18ms
SEND LATENCY:
  Avg: 0ms | Min: 0ms | Max: 0ms
TOTAL PIPELINE:
  Avg: 19ms | Min: 11ms | Max: 28ms
FRAME INTERVAL:
  Avg: 19ms | Min: 11ms | Max: 28ms

WARNING: Dropped 715 frames (queue overflow)
========================================```

[livid flame]

Classic twitch move

[topaz veldt]

Because if it has HDR in the name it'll work because it'll fallback to HDR, but ".DV." only results in

[edgy laurel]

doesn't that have to do with the file's encoding color spaces and not the filename?

[topaz veldt]

Yes but taggers are good - if it says only DV there is no HDR profile, and if the end device (PC) doesn't play DV direct play it can't transcode

[fervent chasm]

they probably follow a naming scheme that makes it easier to manage

[low sorrel]

FUCK YOU FEDEX

GIMME MY PACKAGE

[fervent chasm]

washington is a boring state tbh

[low sorrel]

i don't live in washington

[livid flame]

We see that

[edgy laurel]

Hmm not always. I have some like this

and those play nicely in just HDR10

[topaz veldt]

are you able to play on Plex web client in Chrome

[edgy laurel]

well, i dunno i don't have that lol

[topaz veldt]

How are you playing it then, VLC?

[edgy laurel]

MPC-HC

[topaz veldt]

Yeah - that's easy

the prob is with Plex not having DV

and ".DV." files rarely have an HDR10 profile... UNLESS they look like ".DV.....HDR...."

[fervent chasm]

The VSCode AI is kinda good I used to not use it, but it does those suggestions that save time

[pure garnet]

does plex not have a desktop app that lets you play back dv

[topaz veldt]

So I am searching for cases where .DV. exists but NOT .HDR. in the filename

[topaz veldt]

it only works with direct play

[edgy laurel]

hmm, ok. I just think you'd be missing some things

oh, when you have to transcode things get fuuuuunky

[topaz veldt]

yes

[edgy laurel]

at least when HDR is involved

[topaz veldt]

it'll be like purple

[edgy laurel]

I never did get transcoding while maintaining HDR working in Jellyfin

[topaz veldt]

Plex does a good job

just not with DoVi only

[pure garnet]

i've never tried transcoding hdr

[edgy laurel]

I've had a few DoVi only files before and had to move away from VLC. Potplayer and MPC-HC can deal with it

[topaz veldt]

What tool aer you using to show profiles

[edgy laurel]

MediaInfo, its essential

works right in your right click menu. can inspect any media file

[drifting garden]

guilty how do i properly wipe my pc so i can fix ts once and for all

[edgy laurel]

build a Windows 11 installer, boot to it, delete all partitions and install

[turbid locust]

Delete system 32

[drifting garden]

what wrong with just going in settings and fully wiping it

[pure garnet]

https://www.google.com/search?q=windows+media+creation+tool

[edgy laurel]

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

[edgy laurel]

because thats not fully wiping it

[drifting garden]

hmm this all feels like a pain im in for a treat

[edgy laurel]

deeply rooted system issues will remain

[drifting garden]

ive never had to use the tool but i heard about it and im just intimidated

i havea awindwos 11 stick btw

[edgy laurel]

how old is it?

always make a fresh one

[drifting garden]

from december 2024

[drifting garden]

u mean the installation tool?

[topaz veldt]

see?

[wheat void]

Imagine trying to build a new house stuck within an old house

It would make way more sense to bulldoze it from outside the house right

[drifting garden]

yes

[wheat void]

There we go

[drifting garden]

so that mean i must use the windows media creation tool

but idk how to do athat

[wheat void]

You'll get there

[livid flame]

Go to your browser

Open Google. Ask it.

[drifting garden]

but that means i cant bother u guys...

[edgy laurel]

yeah, those are fun

[topaz veldt]

thats my prob

[fervent chasm]

aha, theres still a little bit of VBR, I forgot about the adaptive bitrate function

[drifting garden]

can ijust use chatgpt to help me fully wipe with the tool

he my goat

[topaz veldt]

this is pathetic

[edgy laurel]

listening to chatgpt when you really don't know what you're doing is how you end up in these situations

[drifting garden]

i never used him but yea true

[young void]

[drifting garden]

what IS chat good at when it comes to tech i heard its unrelable for trobleshooting and performance

[topaz veldt]

we're so fucked

[edgy laurel]

yep

[young void]

Its been a day but I suppose ill try

[fervent chasm]

nice, getting over 50FPS pretty stable on high motion scenes haha this is actually sick

[drifting garden]

whats wroing wit asking questions

[fervent chasm]

im sorry that im spamming this chat about my project but im actually so excited

[young void]

Before I proceed do you have your windows 11 key? Alex

[fervent chasm]

I was losing so much hope because of how little progress I was getting the first week

[young void]

Its tech stoof so all good

[drifting garden]

yes i do

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel what view did you use to show all the profiles in MediaInfo

[edgy laurel]

i have the default view set to Tree

i prefer it

[topaz veldt]

yeah thats what i needed

[young void]

1. Sweet beans so windows 11 instalation media here https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=2156295 , install it run the exe and select for a new fresh build then choose the blank formatted usb stick thats at least 8gb

[livid flame]

[young void]

2. Put the usb into the motherboard with the pc off
3. Enter bios and select the usb as the boot drive via drive/boot tab and moving it to the primary
4. Your now running the instalation tool via your pc delete all prior partitions on the c drive (drive 0)

[topaz veldt]

womp womp

[livid flame]

Now tell him how to enter bios and select it as a boot drive

[fervent chasm]

just tell them to use chatGPT

[edgy laurel]

i seem to recall there are some problems with certain "Profiles" with DV. @steel stream probably knows more there.

[fervent chasm]

tbf, I got a stable RAM OC from chatGPT

[edgy laurel]

Most of the stuff I get is HDR10 compatible

[topaz veldt]

so far spot checking my script its 10 for 10 on missing HDR10 stuff

[fervent chasm]

I couldnt get a stable speed over 5200MT/s with my 4x48gb setup

[fervent chasm]

i asked chatGPT and it worked first try

[drifting garden]

wait so

[fervent chasm]

until it didnt after I did a stability test

but it worked at first! all that matters

[drifting garden]

i ahvea 32gb blank usb stick

i download the tool there and follow the rest of the steps

[livid flame]

You’ve got it

[drifting garden]

now do i have to like uninstall anything before i do all that?

[livid flame]

Boys. We’ve made him.

[fervent chasm]

the reinstall uninstalls literally everything

[drifting garden]

okay oaky

[fervent chasm]

its wiping the drive

well, thats what most people do

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/si-va-in-scena-showtime-gif-25817813

[young void]

Step 4 deleting all partitions on the drive 0 (c drive) will clear/ delete everything

[livid flame]

Latest media creation tells you that you have to delete all

[drifting garden]

okay so think process isnt hard it seems right

[steel stream]

what are you trying to do?

[livid flame]

Otherwise it doesn’t proceed

[young void]

Step 5 go through the windows lets begin steps dont remove the usb until logged back in

[livid flame]

I reinstalled windows 9 times in 2 days in the last week to remember that

[topaz veldt]

Can you parse that

[steel stream]

yah

[topaz veldt]

so I am finding random files that have no HDR profile

[livid flame]

How many files do you have to search?

[young void]

One last thing is you may want a seperate usb stick to hold your motherboards wifi driver as a just in case (via your exact motherboard website extracted/unzipped to a diffrent usb)

[topaz veldt]

only DV and so far, 10 out of 10, if it has .DV. and NOT .HDR. someplace in the filename its 100% lacking HDR10+

[topaz veldt]

ok Feds

[edgy laurel]

I guess when I acquire these linux ISO's, i can see whats included beforehand and seek out things specifically HDR10 compatible

[livid flame]

Im curious on cost/benefit

[topaz veldt]

what do you mean cost/benefit?

[steel stream]

why bother looking for HDR10+?

or try to find files without it

[edgy laurel]

was The Running Man 2025 alright?

[livid flame]

If the amount of time you have put into creating and discussing your solution is out weighed by the benefit of having the automated solution over a manual.

[drifting garden]

okay i think i got this

[topaz veldt]

... this is automated, its a fucking script

[edgy laurel]

fuggn profile 5

[steel stream]

Is this playback on LG or PC

[topaz veldt]

PC - and mobile device will play but the colors are fucked

[livid flame]

Right. You didn’t understand what was said. But yeah, be fucking rude 🤷🏼‍♂️

[topaz veldt]

You realize I am literally scripting this right?

[livid flame]

Read what I said again

[topaz veldt]

I am taking the output of my script and kicking it back thru Arr API

[drifting garden]

wait ur saying i may need wifi drivers but why?? i shouldnt be like unsintalling that

[topaz veldt]

What you said doesn't make sense - what is the question?

[young void]

You can get into Windows w/o wifi, but good habit and alot easier to finish the steps. Sometimes fresh installs has no drivers so wifi wont work

[livid flame]

I’m over it. If ya can’t understand simple English, I’m over it

[fervent chasm]

Read a bit more above the message before that from him

[topaz veldt]

"how many files"?

[steel stream]

hmm, yeah. The worst part is that you never really know what DoVi format the people rip in, so it's a bit hard to find

[fervent chasm]

Im curious on cost/benefit

[topaz veldt]

it doesn't matter how many files, this is going to be part of my automation logic to avoid DV only files

[steel stream]

5nail have you seen my DDVT shenanigans yet