tech-chat-2

[wise bear]

yeah im not dealing w/ you today atomic byeee

[proven cairn]

Ok

[oak vector]

lmao new record

[fervent chasm]

what did atomic do

[wise bear]

He's an obnoxious twerp that doesn't know when to can it

[proven cairn]

Nothing, I’m js too cool for the tech chat 2ers

[wise bear]

and I don't feel great today, and I don't wanna fucking deal with it

[proven cairn]

Sure buddy

[proven cairn]

Tuff

[oak vector]

I feel I’m marginally too silly for tc2
But I hang around cos y’all cool

[digital plume]

i agree with peyton, atomic thinks i should play terraria

[wise bear]

Nah you're good billy

[proven cairn]

Is poggers

[wise bear]

I like having you here, you're chill

[digital plume]

no atomic is not poggers

[oak vector]

Awwww
Thx 🫶

that was sweet

[proven cairn]

Is poggers

[digital plume]

i hate you

[random flame]

You're presence is very appreciated here, Billy.

[proven cairn]

Ok

[oak vector]

Yall being so sweet imma start crying 😭

[wise bear]

dw I already cried the moment I woke up today

✨ Emotions ✨

[random flame]

I also don't even remember just who the hell Atomic is anyway, or even care I guess.

[proven cairn]

I’m a cool guy is who I am

[digital plume]

oh i only know peyton

[oak vector]

Sigh I should probably go sleep
Probably the cause of my silliness

[proven cairn]

Bad start

[wise bear]

Everybody knows me :3

[digital plume]

great start

[oak vector]

Awww
I hope the rest of your day goes better

[random flame]

No, that's Rogue and Floppa

[proven cairn]

Nah I’m cool and rebellious

I don’t listen to authority cause I’m a true libertarian

[digital plume]

even if peyton is cool and all, i gotta say red bull > monster

[random flame]

That's Peyton, with a side of savagery.

[proven cairn]

Sure pal

[wise bear]

I might be sick w/ a cold or something so like I'm just coasting today

[oak vector]

Peyton just says what she thinks
Which I appreciate cos Yk
I got that tism in me and I appreciate not trying to read people thx lmao

[wise bear]

Being autistic makes inter-autistic communications insanely easy

[random flame]

No. The "pal" is Mac and 5nail.

[proven cairn]

Ok brotato

[oak vector]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-same-wavelength-twins-thinking-cosmic-energy-gif-15106217

Our brains communicate on a different spectrum O.o

[digital plume]

i cant wait for this pos to arrive

[proven cairn]

Based pos

[random flame]

Ngl, that sounds like Guilty somehow.

[proven cairn]

The screws mean it’s based

[oak vector]

I saw some stupid meme the other day about vga and now I’m laughing about it

[proven cairn]

VGA makes my screen blue 🙁

[wise bear]

what does

[digital plume]

actually

[random flame]

"Brotato"

I have no real explanation for how though.

[proven cairn]

It has screws because it’s no bueno if it’s loose i think

[wise bear]

I consider Guilty like, the guy I get breakfast with once a month, but across the country

[oak vector]

Hopefully it don’t get worse

[digital plume]

it did make my screen blue once

[oak vector]

Ykw I see that

Like a nice coffee, nice food, good chat

[low sorrel]

I consider gulity a guy I would visit in hospice

[proven cairn]

Average VGA experience

[oak vector]

Ngl anyone who couldn’t get vga to work well just has a skill issue

[proven cairn]

Ok

[digital plume]

cheap vga cables refuse to detect the monitor and it only shows up as generic

[oak vector]

Hahahaha yeah

[digital plume]

so some times the gpu will say, yeah, let's output 1600p at 85hz

[proven cairn]

New double tap react feature??

[digital plume]

on a poor 768p

right now my 768p monitor thinks it can go to 1080

[wise bear]

vga is an analog connection so even off-kilter resistive values can fuck up the output

[oak vector]

I have a hdmi cord of which I turned the connector into a 90 degree adapter but it still works so

Sometimes I have to give it a bit of a wiggle when I get some dots on my screen but it still works

joys of having a sit stand desk
I raised the desk
And crunch

sooooo time to invest in some form of under desk mount for my ups and pc

[topaz veldt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brTFQ3LnBeU

[proven cairn]

Msi sucks now??

[topaz veldt]

I have hated dragons

[hoary hatch]

Did they not suck before

Although MSI has had some excellent monitor options in the last couple years

And good motherboard options

[random flame]

I love dragons, but not MSI.

[digital plume]

vga is an analog connection so staring at it for too long creates a quantum environment where it either doesn't work or outputs 4k

[hoary hatch]

I don't get the appeal of dragons

[quick wedge]

When I plug in both monitors one of them can't be detected, but if one is plugged in it can

[wise bear]

dragons are for closet christians who play warhammer and/or D&D

[topaz veldt]

I spend a lot of time defending the fact that I don't actually like a lot about the gamer community to my wife lol

[merry stirrup]

16kg

[digital plume]

dvi

[merry stirrup]

24kg

dms-59

[hoary hatch]

If the theme is medieval or fantasy (like DnD), it fails to spark interest in me

[wise bear]

samesies

[fervent chasm]

I never understood games like DnD being fun, but I cant hate on people who play it either

I play HOI4 sooooo

[hoary hatch]

Way to be such a hater bro

[fervent chasm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/381193783296917507/1298397840980312085/airflow.gif

[wise bear]

gimme modern, gimme western, give me scifi

[fervent chasm]

nah modern games got boring

campaign quality has gotten worse

[hoary hatch]

Sci-fi only

[fervent chasm]

I also play Overwatch 2 hahaha

[wise bear]

hero shooters are what's ruining the game industry

[digital plume]

medieval and fantasy is alright

[fervent chasm]

I used to hate on anyone who plays OW2 and then I started playing it

[digital plume]

but i don't play games

[wise bear]

Any and all hero shooters suck massive ass

[hoary hatch]

Did you play overwatch original?

[quick wedge]

One monitor goes black if I select "extend these displays" - ones is a display port and the other HDMI

[digital plume]

the closest thing i can defend is castlevania from netflix

[wise bear]

hero shooters, battle royale, jpg grinders...

[fervent chasm]

I can see why people say they dont like it, its just rainbows everywhere (i mean all the lasers and stuff), too much chaos to know whats going on until you play for a bit

[oak vector]

hi snails

[fervent chasm]

literally just started typing

[frank zealot]

DP has a higher refresh on that screen than HDMI does.
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd500723-lenovo-r27fc-30-overview

[oak vector]

Rainbows 😍

[fervent chasm]

no, sadly

[hoary hatch]

Yikes

[fervent chasm]

why

[hoary hatch]

Overwatch was peak

[fervent chasm]

yah my gf said she liked the original

[digital plume]

displayport has a dvi mode right

[wise bear]

yes

[fervent chasm]

but she hit top 500 on the 2nd so she always glazes it

[digital plume]

sweet

[wise bear]

dvi-d is digital.

[devout ridge]

isn’t that what the d in dvi means

[wise bear]

yes

[hoary hatch]

Dog video input

[wise bear]

but there's also dvi-a which has an analog component for vga

[topaz veldt]

It is wild to see NW Repair reball a 5000 series GPU

[digital plume]

they should have made vga-d

smh smh

[wise bear]

vga as a standard electrically cannot do digital, so

[digital plume]

is that what the a standsf or

[devout ridge]

Digital Video Input - Digital
and
Digital Video Input - Analog
right?

[hoary hatch]

4.5 more work days left

[wise bear]

yes

[digital plume]

digital video input... analog?

[frank zealot]

DVI-A has 4 extra pins to allow for analog that most DVI doesn't

[digital plume]

huh

[wise bear]

that little dash/plus of a connector in the dvi connector is the analog/audio area

[oak vector]

Digital analog video huh my brain stopped lmao

[edgy laurel]

And DVI-I, for both. Then you have single and dual-link.

[wise bear]

oh man dual-link dvi was cool

[frank zealot]

DVI was an annoying standard

[quick wedge]

My monitor goes black when I put it above 60 fps, it's connected through a HDMI

[digital plume]

so many dvis

[devout ridge]

i hate dvi and vga, screwing and unscrewing the connectors is such a pain

[digital plume]

my monitor has the second to last port

[wise bear]

dvi-d

[digital plume]

sweet

im so exited this is gonna be my first digital video interface

[edgy laurel]

if you're a real one you know DMS-59

[frank zealot]

DVI D-Dual Link

[hoary hatch]

USB C retention mount when

[devout ridge]

it exists

[wise bear]

dual dvi out yaaaas

[oak vector]

hdmi supports 8k@60hz
vga supports up to 20kg

[frank zealot]

Isn't that the one that outputs to... 3 or 4 VGA?

[edgy laurel]

multiple of a few things. Seen it used for DVI, VGA and HDMI

[hoary hatch]

Bruh

[digital plume]

oh it's the worst when you pull your desktop a bit forward and your monitor suddenly flings

[edgy laurel]

typical with business grade compact desktops

[hoary hatch]

Like a real product or a meme design

[devout ridge]

i’ve seen some stupid ass locking connectors in the theatre space

[edgy laurel]

the best kind

[devout ridge]

they will somehow make every fucking connector locking, they even have locking ethernet

[wise bear]

amphenol connectors ftw

[devout ridge]

ethercon i hate you

[digital plume]

you probably don't want them to come loose

[hoary hatch]

EtherCAT I love you

[digital plume]

i would love to see a locking aux cord tho

[devout ridge]

unplugging stage pins makes me feel like a 2 year old trying to unplug a power cable

stage pins are so fucking stiff

[oak vector]

I’ve been in schools as they were switching from hdmi to vga, and some rooms had one while some had another

Some would just get up and grab their laptop and walk away…. It was plugged into vga and they were used to hdmi lmao

[devout ridge]

i have literally had to put both feet on the wall and yank to get stage pins out before

[digital plume]

oh no

[devout ridge]

they are the single most stubborn connector ever

[hoary hatch]

I'm pretty scarred from my high schools technical theater people

[devout ridge]

they aren’t even locking, they just have all the friction in the world

[hoary hatch]

The idea of proper sound mixing never entered their heada

[devout ridge]

so glad my highschool theater isn’t like that

[hoary hatch]

What if bass guitar drowned out every other noise

[devout ridge]

unless it’s a band/dance/choir event

[topaz veldt]

Alright friend....let's go to work

[digital plume]

what am i looking at here

[wise bear]

That toothbrush is bent af

[devout ridge]

one time they gave us a dance soundtrack that was mono, but it wasn’t actually mono, it just only outputted on the left channel

[topaz veldt]

Heat gun intentionally

[devout ridge]

it was formatted as stereo, but only had one channel of audio encoded

[wise bear]

Ahh

[wise bear]

I just saw your dm, I wasn't angry at the lame joke, I just called it lame lol

[topaz veldt]

I'm angry

[wise bear]

I would be too if I had to clean that

[digital plume]

is alright

[oak vector]

[wise bear]

Oh my god this monster is doing nothing to me I must be sick

😭

[merry stirrup]

good morning

[wise bear]

hi flooper

[hoary hatch]

Floppa it's almost 8am

You should be up at 6 like Peyton and myself

[wise bear]

YEAH

[merry stirrup]

what if i told you ive been up this whole time

[wise bear]

my alarm is set every day for 6 am

I actually woke up at 5:30 today but spent a good 30 on the toilet

Totally didn't fall asleep on the toilet for a few minutes

[hoary hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-15058124

[acoustic wren]

no its 8 pm

9*

[wise bear]

lame timezone

gmt-8 best timezone suck a duck

[low sorrel]

Same here

[acoustic wren]

is sleeping for the weak

[merry stirrup]

i eat biscuits and gravy and a berry propel

then a mimir

[wise bear]

omg, biscuits sound good

[low sorrel]

Sleeping is for people who have functioning circulation rhythms

[wise bear]

flaky biscuit with sausage..

[wise bear]

Circadian.

[low sorrel]

Cut me a break won't you I haven't slept

[wise bear]

I was just saying

[low sorrel]

How is the one time I want coffee the time we don't have any

How am I out of coffee

[acoustic wren]

i can send you some

[fervent chasm]

Tc2 is much more chill than Tc1

[wise bear]

yep

the adults primarily hang out here

[fervent chasm]

My dog fell asleep on me and I’m stuck now

[merry stirrup]

"adults"

[fervent chasm]

I wanna go on my pc but I can’t move

[low sorrel]

"Adults"

[pure garnet]

youngin

[low sorrel]

Why still dark outside

Sun come up faster please

[fervent chasm]

Apparently I only function as a bed for her because she refuses to play with me

[hoary hatch]

Build a bear is getting realistic

[random flame]

I do mostly scifi with the limit in fantasy being mainly modern-setting based, rather than medieval or such. Often times, stuff focused around those settings for place and timeline loses me rather quickly.

[uneven mauve]

can someone help me with my yt rq?

[fervent chasm]

This was her when we first got her

So much color changed

[uneven mauve]

?

[fervent chasm]

Our little rat

[potent bronze]

Hello, later today I'm planning to replace my main m.2 for a new one.
What would be the best way for resetting my old m.2 drive

[merry stirrup]

quite the explanation here

[uneven mauve]

WAIT

[digital plume]

i'm still suprised

[uneven mauve]

lemme send a pic

[digital plume]

this drive is pushing 9 years now

[uneven mauve]

the UI is cooked

[fervent chasm]

Can you install both onto the mobo at the same time? If so just boot into windows on the new one and wipe the old one from windows

[acoustic wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274178757338464352/1353822338663055381/helpmoment.gif

[fervent chasm]

Why is the video huge and the comments tiny

[wise bear]

clear cache and cookies.

[digital plume]

37500 hour wd blue

[uneven mauve]

dont have to be rude

[potent bronze]

Im planning on replacing my 2tb for a new one and installing a 4tb for my games.

[wise bear]

Me likey nvme

[fervent chasm]

Well if you want to wipe the old one you gotta be booted into something other than it and make sure it’s installed in the same system

From there it’s pretty simple

Oh my god I forgot dogs snore

[wise bear]

4tb in my laptop, 6tb in my desktop, 1tb in storage server, 500gb in render server, 2tb in an external drive

[acoustic wren]

i hate nvme

typing "sda1" in the terminal is easier than "nvme0n1p1"

[fervent chasm]

Can’t you type nv and hit tab and it auto completes?

[wise bear]

^

[potent bronze]

1. I cant just reset my m.2 from bios or disk management
2. Turn off pc.
3. Install new m.2

[acoustic wren]

theres 3 partitions

[fervent chasm]

If you keep hitting tab it goes through them no?

[acoustic wren]

nope

[fervent chasm]

That’s dumb

[acoustic wren]

maybe thats just my terminal, idk

[wise bear]

sounds like a you problem tbh

[fervent chasm]

yo that’s creepy dogs open their eyes while sleeping

I did the RMA on the RAM

Probably not gonna get through it tho, since it was third party

[topaz veldt]

Just ruining a $3,000 video card

You know what kills me @wise bear

[wise bear]

What's that

[topaz veldt]

Just like in the world, so many people desperate for a loved one, etc., to survive and yet meanwhile there is scum out there doing this

[wise bear]

omg it was his own kid????

[topaz veldt]

yeah

[wise bear]

What the fuck

I really, really hate our species.

So many of us are just monsters and don't deserve anything

[topaz veldt]

its just the juxtaposition of situations that I don't get

[wise bear]

The universe gives and takes I guess

[livid flame]

He gave us the Princess Bride. RIP Mr Reiner

It’s okay though for Nick as he will get a Presidential pardon.

[wise bear]

I'm craving something savory

I just might make janky biscuits and gravy

[whole coral]

Jesus that’s awful

[hoary hatch]

I love it when Excel just refused to open a file

[whole coral]

I can’t imagine the depravity involved in murdering your own parents

[wise bear]

evil shit, tbh

Some people are just born royally fucked up

and it sucks

But it's just part of biology, dna, evolution

[frank zealot]

Always true, but we also don't know anything about their family life, either.

[wise bear]

TRUE

[topaz veldt]

yeah, and I have only ever been like pleading for peoples health so its like... really don't get it

[frank zealot]

So it may be the kid is just fucked in the head

Or it may be that the riner household was fuuuucked up and we just never heard about it

[topaz veldt]

We sort of do in this case

[wise bear]

is it still biscuits and gravy if I use chicken sausage

[frank zealot]

sausage is sausage

[wise bear]

It's the only thing that sounds good rn

even ramen sounds like it'd piss off my stomach

[frank zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/with-sausage-pizza-pig-sausage-pickle-gif-7194464

[wise bear]

I love that show tbh

[frank zealot]

it was SO good

It deserved more seasons

[wise bear]

it was so horribly offensive but it was so good

I love ling-ling

especially the driving episode

[topaz veldt]

Who knows maybe Nick Reiner didn't do it, but it wouldn't be the first instance if he did, freakin kills me

[wise bear]

the kid has killed before???

[topaz veldt]

but also i heard that if you touch/rustle penguins feathers they can die

[topaz veldt]

No I mean in other scenarios

[wise bear]

Ohh

I hope the kid gets the death penalty if he did actually off his parents

[topaz veldt]

California - he won't

[wise bear]

god dammit.

[whole coral]

Yeah the death penalty would probably be justified in this case

[wise bear]

can we at least throw him in the ocean with concrete shoes like we did with bin-laden

[ancient oracle]

god damn I just joined

[whole coral]

I only reserve the death penalty for like cold blooded murderers, mass murderers, serial killers, etc. war crimes. The really serious crimes

[ancient oracle]

I was expecting tech talk

[bronze mango]

Or petty crimes I don't like

[wise bear]

child predators deserve medeival death methods

To the brazen bull with you.

[frank zealot]

it happens often enough, but current headlines also leak in, too

[bronze mango]

3 days in my engine bay

[livid flame]

Honestly I don’t think we should kill child predators. Hear me out… life long torture.. daily…

[frank zealot]

bring up something tech-worthy if you want it to go to tech

[wise bear]

nah, erase it from the genetic line.

[bronze mango]

Tech math!

The tech everyone wants to talk about

[frank zealot]

yep, sure, totally.
Anyways... about any other subject.

[livid flame]

As one of my teachers used to say, he was ex-SAS. It’s more devastating to live maimed than it is to be kill. Mentally fucking someone for life is more destructive than death

[wise bear]

gross, math

[whole coral]

God child predators suck

[livid flame]

AI?

[whole coral]

I’m actually a victim of CSA and it really affects you

[bronze mango]

No, math

[livid flame]

Lolololol

[wise bear]

warship you suck.

[livid flame]

Meff

[whole coral]

Another child did it to be tbf but it’s still bad

Idc if your an adult or a child

[wise bear]

meph

[wise bear]

its a meow

lemme pet

[bronze mango]

You're

[bronze mango]

Meeshter tom

[wise bear]

*yuo'e'r'nt

[signal timber]

Hehe car

[signal timber]

Fr

[topaz veldt]

This is ridiculous lol

[steel stream]

at least you saved 60 cents!

[signal timber]

Dawg

[wise bear]

Someone come cook for me I don't have the energy 😭

[signal timber]

I can cook spaghetti and lasagna

[wise bear]

Lemme clarify
Someone who I actually like.

[signal timber]

What did I do now

[topaz veldt]

good enough

[signal timber]

What GPU is that

[wise bear]

That looks really good for under an hour of work

[steel stream]

5060

[topaz veldt]

oh its been drying for like 45 mins, it was like 10-12 mins

[wise bear]

Oh damn okay

[topaz veldt]

5090

[signal timber]

💸

[topaz veldt]

its my 5th one lol

[wise bear]

Having money as an adult is fun :3

[topaz veldt]

The money grew wings, and then the wings fused together, and there is just one super money with super wings

[wise bear]

personally all my money is in a big brass vault that I can swim around in

Normally I get tons of papercuts but it's worth it

[arctic bronze]

Going beyond the normal money, its the legendary super money

[signal timber]

[arctic bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-vegeta-super-saiyan-ssj-vegeta-anime-gif-5809186132786987732

[topaz veldt]

damn, McDonalds CEO dropping truths

"The advice I would give is: remember, nobody cares about your career as much as you do," Kempczinski said. "So this idea that there's somebody out there who's looking out for you, who's going to make sure that you get that opportunity, who puts you in the right thing — great if it happens — but at the end of the day, nobody cares more about your career than you do."

[arctic bronze]

Thats cool bro, id like a big mac and some fries

😛

[topaz veldt]

And someone will happily serve it to ya

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qkGQgZTo_Tg

[arctic bronze]

The joke didnt hit 😔

[topaz veldt]

lol got weird at the end

[young void]

Wonder if their last giveaway actually went to a normal person, remember this documentary from a year or two back that explored how McDonald's monopoly and other games have been rigged and laundered to friends and family of the guy running it while taking a cut

Made me suprised their even allowed to still do those xD

[topaz veldt]

I am not sure, but I just had a convo with someone who said "I use kosher salt"

to which I said "well... when koshering"

and they were like completely blown away that kosher salt was not just coarse salt

and that it is, in fact, used to kosher meat

[young void]

Also I just woke woke up hopefully its been good for my tc2 peeps

[wise bear]

hi friend

worm will you come cook for me i feel sick :(

[young void]

Thats no funs, but i feel it im exhausted my baby didnt let me sleep at all

[wise bear]

oof

[young void]

I need a bit more sleeps

[wise bear]

go back to eeps

[young void]

If only lol

[steel stream]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-rogan-surprised-ohh-shocked-scared-gif-26533226

[young void]

Lmao, snails got them jokes today

[wise bear]

wtf is koshering

like what is kosher

I know it's a jewish thing but like

[random flame]

I think it's just this I guess?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashrut

[wise bear]

@fierce shell I need your jewishness

[young void]

Couldn't say personally im sure it covers a few things

[young void]

You blocking another?

[topaz veldt]

ya

[wise bear]

Never in my life did I think I'd ever say that phrase lmao

[topaz veldt]

I built a small form factor 9800X3D/5090, bought a 5090 Master for it because the case specs said it'd fit but it did not. Sooo... I needed to take my 5090 TUF OC from my 9950X3D build and put it in SFF, but that means I need to block the 5090 Master to put it in the 9950X3D build

[young void]

We do as we must lol

Damn thats tighttttt, ggs fams

[topaz veldt]

yeah, its nice though

[arctic bronze]

A problem we all share. "Damn my 5090 does not fit, let me grab another in my collection" 😔

[topaz veldt]

I know I know....

[wise bear]

oh my god its beautiful

[signal timber]

What's that

[wise bear]

SKS

[brisk jolt]

Switching to your secondary/tertiary 5090 is faster than reloading

[arctic bronze]

Lmao

[topaz veldt]

make sure to keep one in quick inventory

[shell void]

i keep a 5090fe in my hoodie pocket

[topaz veldt]

https://youtube.com/shorts/BLj-RoM_2rA

[brisk jolt]

stop tempting me to get more itx parts

[keen wigeon]

moar itx parts

I need to moar better my AIO in this itx build. Temps are a bit high for my taste and I'm guessing this AIO is a bit on the weak side. I dont like 87C on the CPU. I'm not going to get 65 because ITX and a GPU blowing directly into the intake but I can wish.

Maybe I flip it to pull and the bottom is exhaust!

[strong quarry]

Ngl this shit pisses me off. How is old technology now double the price from a year ago. No way we've reached the point where shit doesnt depreciate and does the opposite

[brisk jolt]

5nail is highly tempting me to get a 2tb nvme and a 5070ti prime SFF, not to his standards but just my plans for it

[keen wigeon]

Depends on what you are targeting for storage. SATA or NVME

[turbid locust]

Been this way for years lol

Prices for tech have always fluctuated like this

[keen wigeon]

The ebb and flow. They're absolutely not double but they're more expensive

https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/internal-hard-drive/#storage.ssdm2nvme.2000

[young void]

No rgrts

[keen wigeon]

we're in a "hunker down" phase for consumer hardware

[strong quarry]

I need an nvme drive to upgrade my 512 gb laptop drive. I was shopping around and everything is in the 200 dollar range when I remember it being a lot cheaper last year

[floral spear]

My cup is arriving today!

[keen wigeon]

Yes, prices are fluid. We go through it every few years with different hardware types.

[floral spear]

https://tenor.com/view/pim-smiling-friends-gif-27386539

I wanted to get storage so I don't have to worry about my 100GB Downloads Folder

[keen wigeon]

DRAM, video cards, storage. They all get a giant kick in the ass from time to time

[floral spear]

Although tbh idk what's the standard

2GB? 4GB?

TB*

[edgy laurel]

you're a monster

[floral spear]

wdym

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-gingerbread-man-you-are-a-monster-broken-leg-shrek-gif-5498298

[strong quarry]

I miss the days when you could rely on prices to just go down as new tech came out and old stuff got discounted. I'd expect this for gen 5 stuff but gen 4 has been out for years now

[signal timber]

My steam download folder is like 300GB alone

[pure garnet]

the bathtub price curve has been a thing for decades

the tech space has also slowed greatly

[random flame]

I mean, I get it. I have about 63.7 gigs of apps, patches, packs, and other stuff stored in my downloads folder.

[signal timber]

What's that

[candid wave]

does anyone have a good mouse recommendation for under $100 usd

[floral spear]

I have 60gb of ROM then 40 are miscellaneous

[mild sandal]

https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/best/by-usage/gaming

[floral spear]

This is such a vague question, do you have a specific preference? Because if you want I can just recommend a mouse I really like

[signal timber]

Sharkoon shark force 2

[pure garnet]

prices fall then rise again

[random flame]

Razer Mamba Elite

[floral spear]

ViewSonic XG2431

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/what-goes-up-must-come-down-patricia-williams-ms-pat-ms-pat-settles-it-what-goes-around-comes-around-gif-6580003249096936879

[strong quarry]

I've got glorious model d for years and its great, I used to use a g602 but it was too heavy for fps and so I put silent switches and used it for work

Ngl I wish they still made that mouse cuz it was nice having that many buttons on the side

[edgy laurel]

you can do relatively light weight with a lot of side buttons

[strong quarry]

Dog where do I buy this lmao

[keen wigeon]

MX Master 4. It is a sledgehammer

[edgy laurel]

you'll have to look at retailers for you, but its this https://steelseries.com/gaming-mice/aerox-9

Not cheap

but all "MMO" mice have side button arrangements like that

https://www.rtings.com/mouse/reviews/best/mmo

that one is just the first i've seen with a focus on being lighter

[steel stream]

this mouse seems evil

like the one ring of mice

[pure garnet]

i tried to get into mmo mice but i couldn’t

[random flame]

I dunno how I would either.

[strong quarry]

Yea, I've never seen something like that. Most mmo mice don't seem that comfortable tho. I liked the placement on the 602 and 604 cuz the buttons were kinda out of the way until u needed them

[random flame]

I don't really do anything that needs that many macros.

[edgy laurel]

I thought about it as they're very popular with DayZ players

[random flame]

And it seems like a hassle to NOT press something accidentally that I didn't want.

[strong quarry]

Mmo mice you always have your thumb resting on them

[pure garnet]

they’re popular in xiv but it was like trying to control an alien spaceship so i went back to my keybinds

[edgy laurel]

yeah I imagine there is a lot of muscle memory to develop

[pure garnet]

i one i had (g600) also was wired only

[edgy laurel]

that Steelseries is actually pretty interesting

holy hell the Naga v2 Pro is 133g

[strong quarry]

Ik there's a razer one that has magnets and you can change the side layout idk if they still make it tho

89g is really good tho and it has Bluetooth

[edgy laurel]

oh, like this

Naga Trinity

https://youtu.be/ivLvsTnp9fI

[strong quarry]

Yea that. Thought it was a cool idea

[edgy laurel]

looks heavy

[strong quarry]

Fs is

[floral spear]

Wtf

Why did it block that

My personal suggestion

[edgy laurel]

didn't read the prime feature they're looking for, did ya

[floral spear]

I was multi tasking and just read the first prompt

[inner hearth]

good morning im looking for a good wifi rang extender or mesh network for my dad and not sure where to start

his got a big house and the main router is on the 2nt floor on the left side of his house but we need to get the wifi to the down stairs right side t0 run a roko on his outside tv was debating on 1 good wifi extender or maybe 2

[final glacier]

https://videocardz.com/newz/ddr5-memory-prices-triple-in-three-months-giving-amd-am4-upgrades-a-second-wind

[shell void]

preinstalling microsoft copilot on TVs is the first step towards this future

[fervent chasm]

There are no good mesh or extenders

Overall the system sucks

[inner hearth]

hmm

[fervent chasm]

Can’t run a cable upstairs?

[inner hearth]

no

so a extender about middle of the house wouldent help much?

it's got good wifi till the room before the tv and has 2 thick walls

[fervent chasm]

The extender only can extend as good as the connection it’s getting

[frank zealot]

if you can't run a cable, and wifi isn't reaching well, fallback options:

Ethernet over Power - adapters that will run data over your electrical wiring. Iffy, but potentially helpful.

MoCA - Ethernet over COAX, if you have coax (cable TV cables) upstairs

[fervent chasm]

Yah my next suggestion would be MoCA

[frank zealot]

(MoCA is the superior solution if you can do it)

[fervent chasm]

A lot of buildings still have Coaxial running through them (the tv outlets on walls)

[edgy laurel]

hard disagree for most non-enthusiasts

been beyond happy with the Netgear Orbi system I put at my parents place

[low sorrel]

Hell most non enthusiasts would be fine on a ISP provided router let alone a mesh network

[edgy laurel]

dedicated backbone radio, hasn't skipped a beat in 4 years and I've not had to be tech support for it continually

will always recommend

[low sorrel]

Man I hate Telus so much

[pure garnet]

i've recommended these twice to people and aside from the install 1 time i've had 0 issues since then

[fervent chasm]

I’m comparing to wired, which is what it’s replacing

It’s better to use as a last resort

[low sorrel]

I have 5G+ data reception rn and I can't even play a YouTube video at 1440p without buffering

[fervent chasm]

If they can’t do MoCA or Ethernet over Powerline, then go for the mesh/extender

[inner hearth]

would a range extender be okay just to get trough the 2 walls going outside about 30 feet more then the wifi good signal

[low sorrel]

Yes probably

[fervent chasm]

Probably

Maybe something with higher gain antennas so it goes through the walls better

But you lose the vertical angle

[inner hearth]

so would be better to keep it upstairs and boost from the top on that side?

[fervent chasm]

Where is the router now?

Upstairs?

[inner hearth]

2nt floor top left of his place

[frank zealot]

Go home newegg, yer fuckin' drunk:

[inner hearth]

the signal is great till the last room before the tv it's walls like a foot or so deep

it's thick

[fervent chasm]

Not sure, this isn’t my specialty, maybe someone else can chip in

[edgy laurel]

3rd party listing?

[fervent chasm]

I’d think you probably want something near the center

[fervent chasm]

Yah it is

[inner hearth]

it's full bars till that last room so i was thinking maybe just before that last room

[frank zealot]

yeah, but holy shit it's terribad

[inner hearth]

i just dont know what kinda extender to get there's so many with really good and really bad reviews

[fervent chasm]

What you looking on? Amazon?

[inner hearth]

was looking at walmart they seem to have some really good deals atm

[frank zealot]

So, here's my thing with extenders:

I tried one at my uncle's house:
Because the walls / floors were 10-12" thick concrete? It didn't matter that an AP was within 15' of the PC, it got shit-all for signal

[fervent chasm]

If they have a free return policy just give it a try and if it don’t work return it

[inner hearth]

https://www.walmart.com/search?q=wifi+extenders+signal+booster&facet=special_offers%3AReduced+Price is what im seeing atm but there's so many i dont know witch is good

[fervent chasm]

Yah I have this issue at my uncles cafe, router is downstairs office is upstairs the ceiling/floor in between first and second floor is concrete. No AP will make it through I have to run a cable soon

I hate running Ethernet through different floors

[edgy laurel]

thats the beauty of it. they're all equally as garbage

[inner hearth]

so the cheep is as good as the most expencave?

[wise bear]

no lol

[edgy laurel]

that wasn't really what I meant lol

[inner hearth]

i guess ill just do what the one said try and if it dont work take it back

i see what for 10k sq.ft maybe it will be strong enough to get trough the 2 walls

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ourlife-2-4G-5GHz-WiFi-Extender-Wireless-Dual-Band-WiFi-Repeater-1200Mbps-Signal-Amplifier-Extender-Router-Long-Network-for-Home-Color-White-US-Plug/17708473029?classType=VARIANT&athbdg=L1700&from=/search

[wise bear]

I wouldn't use a janky brand

use tplink, or netgear, or asus

[frank zealot]

So 2.4ghz is better at wall penetration than higher frequency

[inner hearth]

ok

[wise bear]

"ourlife" just sounds like they make your life theirs

[inner hearth]

lol

thinking maybe putting one outside in his shop just bypass both walls

[low sorrel]

by taking all your data

Or it's glory to the Soviet Union

[wise bear]

[low sorrel]

One or the other

[low sorrel]

Something like this would be good enough™

[fervent chasm]

What do you guys think broken ram will sell for on eBay?

[inner hearth]

thanks

[fervent chasm]

32gb for parts at over $100 is wild to me tbh

[inner hearth]

maybe make sure to post it as broken

[fervent chasm]

Well yah, for parts not working

[inner hearth]

and no returns

[fervent chasm]

Its ready, just need photos

ignore the buy it now, i see people seem to just put high ass prices for buy it now that no one will ever pay

im hoping to get like $100 out of it probably

[topaz veldt]

Welp.... finally.

Been a long time coming

[wraith steeple]

[green marsh]

if only 5900XT/5950X was sub-200 euros new

[low sorrel]

Did you buy another 5090

[low sorrel]

Oooo @wise bear

Do I buy a refurb oled

[devout ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-im-sorry-little-one-gif-12454554

Dad needs 1tb of ddr4 per server

[frank zealot]

get warshipped lol

[hoary hatch]

I wish the Intel arc team would be like the Google pixel team and announce the product like 6 months before the actual announcement

[warm urchin]

Yeesh can’t even say the wiener word

[hoary hatch]

Hot dog

[warm urchin]

This is fully sick

[devout ridge]

Vienna Sausages

[frank zealot]

dachshund

[hoary hatch]

Glizzy

[warm urchin]

What if i were to reference the classic British dessert that is otherwise known as “spotted dog”

[hoary hatch]

Jaffe cakes

[topaz veldt]

Yeah a few weeks back.

How I have missed you, friend.

[low sorrel]

You really need all 16 for arc raiders

[topaz veldt]

I need even more

[low sorrel]

Inb4 snail buys a 9995wx

[topaz veldt]

nah TR is dumb

[devout ridge]

buys 2 9995wx’s*

what do you have against TR?

[topaz veldt]

Pretty much the entire platform makes no sense

[devout ridge]

elaborate

[brave panther]

when are you buying 9950x3d2

[topaz veldt]

Need cores - Intel
Need RAM bandwidth - Intel
Need PCIe lanes - Intel

TR does not actually fill a gap in anything, and offers worse memory performance for more money

[topaz veldt]

I still do not believe it will be a real SKU

[edgy laurel]

a stock quad or 8 channel TR offers worse memory performance than a stock (XMP) desktop platform?

by what metric

[topaz veldt]

Yep

Because when talking about large socket intel chips they are 8 and 12 channel

[edgy laurel]

oh, not desktop ok

[topaz veldt]

TR is hardly desktop

Its a budget workstation/enterprise platform

[brave panther]

hedt no?

[edgy laurel]

I thought you were comparing like 285k to TR in memory performance

[topaz veldt]

no

If I am commiting to niche hardware that needs GPU lanes and mem bandwidth Intel offers better parts

So back to my point I still do not really understand what gap TR provides

But I digress

[edgy laurel]

it used to, it doesn't anymore

[slim pebble]

A gap in your wallet where money used to be

[topaz veldt]

I am not sure when it ever did honestly

like TR was 16c at launch I think

[low sorrel]

Cpu compute?

[topaz veldt]

While you could buy like 6 version of Intel 16c lol

[topaz veldt]

Nothing special in TR

[hoary hatch]

Do you feel the same about TR and TR Pro

[topaz veldt]

Both are in the same drawer to me yeah

[low sorrel]

I mean it was cheaper no?

[hoary hatch]

So what would you spec a professional workstation with

[topaz veldt]

Intel

[hoary hatch]

Xeon W?

[topaz veldt]

yerp

[fervent chasm]

xeon scalable 2nd gen

[topaz veldt]

32-60 cores, faster boost

8 channel memory that can actually saturate the channels

[low sorrel]

Didn't second gen and 3rd gen threadripper make sense?

[topaz veldt]

I truthfully don't think they ever made sense

[hoary hatch]

So thread ripper pro 96 core doesn't make sense for a workstation?

[topaz veldt]

Nope

[frank zealot]

There was a point around Ryzen 3000 where Threadripper wasn't outrageously expensive to buy into.

After that it went insane.

[hoary hatch]

Thread ripper 1000 had decent prices, 2000 wasn't too bad

[topaz veldt]

96 cores of like 2.5 GHz vs 60 cores of 4.8 GHz does not make sense, no

[frank zealot]

it was expensive, yes, but it wasn't "now it's 10K+ USD for the chip, and another 1-2K for a board"

[topaz veldt]

And if you venture into Xeon 6 it makes even less sense

[hoary hatch]

But 7980XE and 10980XE were no slouch either

[low sorrel]

Didn't they double in price from 3rd to 5th gen

[frank zealot]

at a minimum, AND They changed socket after saying they wouldn't IIRC

[edgy laurel]

3970x gave you what, 32 real cores, 64 PCIe lanes, quad channel memory in much bigger capacities than desktop platforms and the CPU was $1999. Not $4999 or $10999. Kinda where they stopped being viable

for enthusiasts

[hoary hatch]

That's where they lost the plot

[topaz veldt]

Why would I pay $12-13k for a 96 core TR Pro with 8 channel DDR5 that can't really do more than 5600 when I can pay $10k for a 96c/192t 6972P that has 12-channel memory and 3.9 GHz?

[frank zealot]

yeah that sounds about right

[topaz veldt]

btw 6972P does 6400/8800 M/Ts 😐

[hoary hatch]

Those are big numbers, yes

[topaz veldt]

It simply doesn't make sense

[pure garnet]

threadripper lost its relevancy a long time ago

[hoary hatch]

I didn't realize Intel was that competitive on core count pricing

[topaz veldt]

Yup

Its why my datacenter is still 99.1% Intel

[frank zealot]

outside of companies that have money to burn on bullshit:
Modern Threadripper really has no useful market that I can see.

[topaz veldt]

Honestly the only AMD I have on the floor is for some very very niche X3D workload

and even that I could probably replace with bigger Intel CPUs but it was a test

[low sorrel]

2nd gen threadripper was even cheaper 1799 for 32 cores

[frank zealot]

Threadripper's gotten to the cost of server platforms.... without the benefits of actually being a server platform?

So like... why?

[topaz veldt]

Exactly

[low sorrel]

Here me out

Hear me out cinebench

It looks cool in cinebench

[pure garnet]

isn’t the lowest end threadripper 32c

[topaz veldt]

You know what looks cool in Cinebench?

144 cores/ 288 threads 😐

[frank zealot]

and 5K USD without the board

[pure garnet]

yeah that’s an insane pill to swallow vs a 9950x

[topaz veldt]

The 32c of TR/TR pro are the worst value

[low sorrel]

1500 dollars for 24 cores

[hoary hatch]

Next gen Xeon bLLC?

I take that back

[low sorrel]

Oh wait there's a 12 core thread ripper pro

[hoary hatch]

We don't know much about diamond rapids

[frank zealot]

16 core = 1500$
lol

[topaz veldt]

We'll have to see what it brings

[random flame]

c o n f u s e m e n t
Indeed...

[low sorrel]

What about eypc CPUs

[hoary hatch]

But I think Clearwater forest (e core unfortunately) has bLLC in active base tiles

[topaz veldt]

Forgettable imho

[wraith steeple]

HEDT is dead and gone

[hoary hatch]

I don't see why they couldn't apply that to diamond rapids as well

[topaz veldt]

HEDT is just small server

But AMD still thinks HEDT is a thing

[random flame]

Like I've always wondered that myself.
Like why make basically a baby EPYC, but also make it really expensive and socket exclusive, yet sits in the middle as an HEDT that is cannibalized by Ryzen?

[brave panther]

hell they put a desktop socket in small edge servers now

[hoary hatch]

HEDT core count and memory capacity (comparing to what we had at the end of HEDT platforms) is available on consumer platform today

[random flame]

Like, it's honestly nice they bothered at all, especially since nobody else does anymore.

[topaz veldt]

For sure - that whole AM5 EPYC thing is just a money grab

[hoary hatch]

And we may get 24c zen6?

52* core* on Nova lake

[random flame]

... But it would make even more sense to just make top-end Ryzen that instead too.

[topaz veldt]

We should get 12-core CCD Zen6 desktop

[pure garnet]

it’s really just the pcie lanes they refuse to give us

[edgy laurel]

never understood the purpose of those

[topaz veldt]

Same - you should hear them try and sell me on them

[frank zealot]

huh: apparently there's a 12 core 9945wx... but they never launched it into market channels...

IDK Why they would have made one

[pure garnet]

paying extra for the cool name on the box

[edgy laurel]

Epyc 4004

[brave panther]

for when you have extra budget you want to spend

[edgy laurel]

but the chips are the same!

[hoary hatch]

They can always give us like a few more, but we're not getting old HEDT lane counts on consumer platform any time soon

I think we're at 24 lanes now?

[topaz veldt]

And the lane counts are irrelevant, really

Hate to say it but we're in the "Personal computer" vs "Mainframe" era again

[pure garnet]

it gets pretty tight on certain boards

[topaz veldt]

No one is putting 6 - 8 GPUs in a workstation

[random flame]

No one needs that many anymore anyway.

[topaz veldt]

Sure they do

[pure garnet]

like x870 with the mandated usb ports that suck up an nvmes worth of lanes is pretty lame

[topaz veldt]

But t hey have them in GPU servers

[hoary hatch]

As we get higher bandwidth PCIe generations, we can split the lanes more effectively

[fervent chasm]

pewdiepie

[topaz veldt]

For a YT video, that's all

[random flame]

But that's the point I'm making.

[low sorrel]

How many cores can windows use again

[topaz veldt]

many

[brave panther]

yes

[fervent chasm]

not really, at least hes using it

[topaz veldt]

To get YT views

[frank zealot]

windows 11?

[low sorrel]

Yeah

[hoary hatch]

At least 1

[random flame]

We don't need them, locally, inside the workstation itself.
You can just do a server farm of those things and then remote in or such and that's even better than having a physical system with that many gpus inside of it at your desk or in your closet.

[topaz veldt]

You don't even remote in

you create an API gateway and a web app

[wraith steeple]

32C/64T is the max IIRC

[pure garnet]

windows 11 pro is 256 cores

[brave panther]

not for all editions

[topaz veldt]

depends on edition

[hoary hatch]

People use home?

[random flame]

Admittedly though, I do sometimes wish it would be the opposite and we can just do a multi-gpu build that maximizes all of them without every workload needing to be utterly specific in order to make it actually work as intended.

[brave panther]

11 pro for workstations is basically unlimited

[pure garnet]

it's the most common one

[random flame]

In some ways, I blame Nvidia for this.

[frank zealot]

depends on version:
Win11 Home: 64 Threads
Win 11 Pro: 128 Threads, 2 CPUs
Win 11 Pro Workstations: ??? Threads, 4 CPUs

[low sorrel]

People with prebuiltd and laptops

[frank zealot]

vast majority outside of business, yes

[hoary hatch]

I use pro on everything

[fervent chasm]

IoT Enterprise LTSC FTW

[brave panther]

no

[hoary hatch]

This is what I'm saying

[frank zealot]

you're a nerd. That doesn't matter.

[hoary hatch]

I don't use PfW tho

[hoary hatch]

How dare you

[edgy laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-jesus-heres-another-one-stan-marsh-south-park-pandemic-s12e10-gif-22776152

[low sorrel]

I totally paid for my windows install

[frank zealot]

tell me i'm fuckin' wrong

[fervent chasm]

I like to install windows 11 on stuff with not much resources

[hoary hatch]

I paid for a copy of windows 10 in 2015 when they said it was the last version of windows ever
I see no need to pay for one again so long as I run one main desktop

[fervent chasm]

i wonder what percent of people actually pay

[pure garnet]

fr me and my atm operating system

[low sorrel]

I forgot if I'm on pro or ltsc icl

[random flame]

[frank zealot]

vast majority - since they buy PCs with windows already installed

[topaz veldt]

@wraith steeple do you know what is cheat mode with custom loop? Soft lines. Bleed the GPU block? Np - unsocket the GPU and roll it around lol

[wraith steeple]

Oh boy round fucking two

[low sorrel]

Vast majority use a prebulitband they pay

[hoary hatch]

Joking aside, most people pay for windows because it is included with their laptop

[low sorrel]

Not my framework

[wraith steeple]

Windows version holy war part 2

[hoary hatch]

You have a framework? Nice

[topaz veldt]

Let these plebs cvck block themslves from upgrades - I'll just know powershell

[brave panther]

teams now blocks the funny "diagnostic" command

[frank zealot]

in my office I have LTSC On ONE PC.

Because the bullshit software doesn't support Win11.

THE ONLY REASON

[low sorrel]

POS shoulda just bought a macbook

[slim pebble]

Pro/LTSC doesn’t matter. You can get the same outcome regardless either way. FFS

[topaz veldt]

Yup

[fervent chasm]

IoT Enterprise is arguably the best version due to it being as close to the base and not bloated

[low sorrel]

I recognize that comma d

[pure garnet]

don't get snail going again

[pallid marsh]

@low sorrel did you get your monitor yet?

[fervent chasm]

Im trying to figure out what to say that will get someone going

[low sorrel]

Tmw

[topaz veldt]

I am too busy not giving a shit honestly

[fervent chasm]

cuz u know im right

[brave panther]

after i put it in scrypt block it doesent detect it anymore lmao

[topaz veldt]

The only thing I know is you clearly aren't competent with powershell

[slim pebble]

Same, I’ll continue to run a simple script to do the same thing.

[fervent chasm]

https://github.com/DanielChrobak/Hyper-V-GPU-Manager, look at what its written in

[slim pebble]

You don’t even need PS competence, just run the Titus tool.

[low sorrel]

I'm feeling buyers remorse because I saw this on sale for a second

[topaz veldt]

Doesn't do what I want, but sure

[brave panther]

i use that edition on my vm's

[topaz veldt]

You lost me at Hyper-V lol

[wise bear]

hippy-v, maaan

[pallid marsh]

That's my monitor

[low sorrel]

Hear me out I use IOT because I'm too lazy to debloat

[wise bear]

THERE IS NO DEBLOAT

[brave panther]

w reason

[fervent chasm]

Yah I dont like "debloaters"

[brave panther]

no microsoft i dont want candycrush on my new pc !!!

[low sorrel]

That's why I'm too lazy to do it

[pallid marsh]

I love breaking operating systems

[fervent chasm]

Thats why I use IoT Ent, its the least bloated of the versions

[buoyant oasis]

Anyone knows how to perhaps overclock

[fervent chasm]

#overclocking

[wise bear]

I don't even have that anymore!! I just did a clean install of 25h2 when I set up my render box and I didn't have any of that.

[topaz veldt]

Don't need a debloater, just know what you want a like 20 mins in powershell - I can redeploy any of my systems with one-click

[hoary hatch]

I love breaking my parents' expectations

[fervent chasm]

or you can get it clean during install and not spend 20 min in powershell

[pallid marsh]

You click the auto oc button on your gpus software tool

[low sorrel]

Oh really?

[buoyant oasis]

For my cpu 🙂

[wise bear]

Yeah, really

[low sorrel]

Maybe I'll just install pro next time

[buoyant oasis]

Thanks !!

[brave panther]

havent installed a regular version in a while, all my installs are highly customised

[fervent chasm]

IoT Ent + autounattend.xml makes it very easy to deploy a lot of stuff fast

[pallid marsh]

If it's amd am5 you just let PBO do its thing

[wise bear]

I have home on the renderbox, pro on the primary, and pro on the laptop. Even on the laptop I didn't have any stupid games, and I upgraded to pro after I got it

[low sorrel]

Did snail really boot up his xeon workstation to just flex his 83 core cpu

[buoyant oasis]

I5 12th gen

[topaz veldt]

No need to boot up - on all the time

[fervent chasm]

Why btw?

[topaz veldt]

Travesty of type 1 hypervisor imho

[fervent chasm]

Its cuz Microsoft refuses to update it or phase it out, they just keep it alive because people use it

[topaz veldt]

No its because of how it handles networking and storage IO

[fervent chasm]

Whats wrong with them?

[brave panther]

i just pxe boot and automate all my installs
only step is importing a computer in sccm and writing in the MAC address

[buoyant oasis]

On an msi board

[low sorrel]

I think Spotify was pre installed when I last installed 11 pro

[topaz veldt]

Too long to explain

[low sorrel]

But I don't care because I use Spotify anyways

[topaz veldt]

VHD is a horrible format

[topaz veldt]

no its not

[wise bear]

It is not.

[slim pebble]

You mean it’s not vSphere 😆

[fervent chasm]

i thought it uses vhdx

[topaz veldt]

I use KVM, Nutanix, vSphere

[wise bear]

vhd is still vhdx

[hoary hatch]

YOOOO

[pallid marsh]

Remember candy crush being on w10

[topaz veldt]

putting an x behind it doesn't change anything lol

[hoary hatch]

LTT memory fab tour

[fervent chasm]

does change limits

[topaz veldt]

Thats the least of its issues

[hoary hatch]

I wonder how the nand fabs are different if they even are different

[wise bear]

save the semantics for the literary dome, EB white

[edgy laurel]

kioxia tour today

[topaz veldt]

Fuck Toshiba tho

[edgy laurel]

seems fine to me

[fervent chasm]

So vmdk is better?

[topaz veldt]

I have 300,000 SSDs with a 70,000 hour death bug in firmware....

LTT keeps plugging them

[wise bear]

[slim pebble]

I’m using Linux KVM here, for crunching data it’s amazing.

For anything GPU related you want the type-2 VMware because it’s accelerated.

[topaz veldt]

they are a stain on SSDs

[brave panther]

lmao

how does that work

[topaz veldt]

70,000 hours of run time, locks disk

[wise bear]

something about 65535

[edgy laurel]

so 8 years

[topaz veldt]

Yah which is like only 3 years after depreciation of a $5M array

[low sorrel]

I'm so happy I'm at a park and I just watched a kid throw a punch at another kid and get his ass whooped by that other kid

[wise bear]

I saw a ran over squirrel in the road :(

[topaz veldt]

So Toshiba/Kioxia have basically planned obsoleted NVMe/SSDs... sleezebags

[brave panther]

buffer overflow?

[whole coral]

Yay im out of the dentists office

[low sorrel]

:(

[edgy laurel]

So just Toshiba branded PM2 affected? https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000217034/toshiba-kioxia-pm2-pm2-pm2r-ssds-drives-failing-after-70k-hours-8-years

[whole coral]

Just had a filling replaced

[topaz veldt]

No - some fucking insane bug

[turbid locust]

We moved back to our normal office because the renovation was “done”.

It is not done. We have no AC. They’re still running conduit. Half our doors don’t lock. What the fuck.

[whole coral]

I had wayyy too much laughing gas lmao

[brave panther]

lol

[wise bear]

He was very flat :(

[edgy laurel]

some fixes listed there with firmware

[brave panther]

thanks for letting me know, didnt know that

[wise bear]

I wanna get a couple squirrel feeders for my porch so I can watch them on my cameras

[topaz veldt]

Do not buy PX05 or PX02 Toshiba/Kioxia SSDs

[pallid marsh]

Do you guys even need an office?

[fervent chasm]

God I hate learning CPP its actually the worst switching to lower level programming

[wise bear]

no officer I'm going to the occife

[brave panther]

afik our ssd's in netapps are samsungs

[topaz veldt]

Not 100% many are Netapp SKU Toshibas - ask me how I know

[fervent chasm]

how do you know

[wise bear]

..netapp is still a thing?

[topaz veldt]

@brave panther the Dell, EMC, Netapp, IBM rebranded PX02/PX05 are worse because even those OEMs don't have a firmware update

[turbid locust]

Preferably yes

[wise bear]

The man's a datacenter architect like, he'd know

[topaz veldt]

The hash checks don't match from the "retail" Toshiba devices and you can't force it

[brave panther]

hmm, could be yes as when i installed couple more they were samsung but idfk what was already installed in em as i didnt pull them out

[topaz veldt]

Yeah Netapp does not commit to any one SKU - I have had like AFF arrays with 4 different models

[hoary hatch]

Great I have to look at surf scan maps at work and in LTT videos 🙄

[topaz veldt]

The PowerMax arrays do specify the same Dell SKU, but that doesn't mean that the Toshiba/Kioxia part is the same

[brave panther]

my network shit definitly isnt affected so my ass wont be blasted, only hosting team will be

[topaz veldt]

But yeah - fuck Toshiba

[edgy laurel]

@topaz veldt should pay to send a Merch message on WAN show on Friday and ask about how Linus feels about this bug

[topaz veldt]

Yeah - I found them in everything from Cisco APICs to Dell R740XDs

[edgy laurel]

after the tour video today

[topaz veldt]

Maybe I will

[wise bear]

Do it.

[low sorrel]

Send me the merch (don't)

[hoary hatch]

Interesting that kioxia seems to run a clean subfab

[brave panther]

i will ask hosting team to check this as the bomb could tick out in 1-2y

and they are clueless about hw

[topaz veldt]

For sure - 7-8 years sounds like a long time but it takes most companies half of that to plan to get off a large array/etc.

There used to be a thing called Dell EMC VPlex

SSD/NVMe made it not work well enough, but man it saved our ass on stuff like this

[drifting garden]

are there any here that i should NOT install? any that are un needed and or unnessacary?

[low sorrel]

@topaz veldt want me to remind you about it on friday

[topaz veldt]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMC_VPLEX

[edgy laurel]

No thanks

[topaz veldt]

You can try

[brave panther]

think they replaced netapps in 2020-2022 so about right

[topaz veldt]

Install all

[edgy laurel]

oh, i thought you were asking to remind me lmao

[drifting garden]

alrghty

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[low sorrel]

Bro the wind has blown my lunch away

[wise bear]

nail it down next time

[low sorrel]

What is this

[pallid marsh]

Wind

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel did you go out on Sunday?

[edgy laurel]

not till like 4, and only down the street

[brave panther]

we have nightly partial backups and weekly full backup to two sites that have large hdd based netapps

[topaz veldt]

My kids wanted to go sledding - it was like 20F and 30 mph winds. Fucking brutal.

[topaz veldt]

Like FAS8080s?

[edgy laurel]

yeah, the wind was wild. no thank you

[low sorrel]

Damn really? The fucking ski mountains aren't open yet here

[topaz veldt]

I had thermal unders on and it was still coming through - kids are nuts dude they were not phased at all

[low sorrel]

I'm just happy I didn't pay for a season pass like my brother

[topaz veldt]

We got a really nice, early snow here

[pallid marsh]

They could go sled sailing on an open field

[topaz veldt]

Honestly not a bad idea

[edgy laurel]

It was a lot more snow than I expected

[brave panther]

i dont know the model number but i know they have 3-4 jbods attached to it

[wise bear]

It's gonna be windy af up to 40mph here tomorrow night

[topaz veldt]

We're south of you - we had like 8" down here

[edgy laurel]

meanwhile @shell void has been sitting on multiple feet

[topaz veldt]

thats how the netapps work

[topaz veldt]

hes only got 2 feet bro

[edgy laurel]

thats multiple!

[wise bear]

ha, shortstack

[vestal granite]

multiple feet

[topaz veldt]

Alright - time to reinstall Windows on this plagued install

[wise bear]

god ih aven't seen multiple feet of snow in 20 years

[topaz veldt]

LOL - this is the install I did like 4 times while diagnosing that failed 5090 TUF OC

[brave panther]

not the smol ones we use on sites
netapp a250

[hoary hatch]

Do you have snow down there?

[wise bear]

no lol im at the floor of the valley

[topaz veldt]

ah word

Netapp was/is famous for JBODs that you daisy chain

the small AFFs only take like 1 shelf

[wise bear]

DaisyBOD

[brave panther]

can you put nvme in those? afaik all are sas

[topaz veldt]

its been a while, no prob all SAS/SATA

[low sorrel]

oh wtf i have 11 pro N installed

[topaz veldt]

I am on all NVMeOF right now, but leaving that for a crazy distributed storage platform

[edgy laurel]

I still remember this picture from the parking lot at my office back in 2014

[low sorrel]

what the diff

[fringe vigil]

I had tator tots

[wise bear]

N doesn't have preinstalled media components

[edgy laurel]

they hate you too

[fringe vigil]

I had*

[vestal granite]

i love wet snow its so great and not horrible

[topaz veldt]

N is for Asian countries with media shit

[low sorrel]

oh right and i ended up installing them anyways for a game

[edgy laurel]

the worst

[topaz veldt]

This was once the snow fall stopped

I had to get the snow blower out so

[wise bear]

Picturesque

[low sorrel]

legitmately required CM:O required media player legacy it turns out

[edgy laurel]

time for some landscaping in the spring

[topaz veldt]

thats in the patio plan

[brave panther]

no snow here yet
only FOG

[low sorrel]

i wanna move there

[low sorrel]

only rain