tech-chat-2

[edgy laurel]

when he choked on a bigmac

[topaz veldt]

lolol

[toxic grotto]

The vibes are great, I just can’t find time to watch streamers

[edgy laurel]

dude the scenes he does between rounds and shit, his production is on another level

[hoary hatch]

Oh my god factorio is 60fps locked
I'm gonna uninstall

[toxic grotto]

Is there not just a text file you can edit or mod to install?

[hoary hatch]

It's already gone

TL;Dr the animations are premade 60fps so nothing to do about it

[toxic grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/waterfill-martincitopants-factorio-mods-gif-23270784

[hoary hatch]

I'm enjoying horizon forbidden west, but there are way too many weapons and armors. Too many different resources required to grind to upgrade them all

I can't speak for all the horizon enjoyers, but I wish it was just a new map and more story

HFW is much more of a resource grind than HZD

[toxic grotto]

I enjoyed horizon zero dawn but yeah there wasn’t too much customizability, I think it worked though to let the story be the forefront

[hoary hatch]

That's what I liked about it

[toxic grotto]

I need to replay hzd

[hoary hatch]

I'm sure there's people who would say the weapon selection was restrictive

But it really didn't take too long to upgrade your kit and then you could focus on enjoying the journey

[toxic grotto]

there’s too much right now, gotta start e33, gotta finish Silksong, Minecraft phase is in full swing

Eventually I’ll replay hzd and pick up hfw

[hoary hatch]

After playing HFW, I'm not sure I can go back to HZD non remastered

[toxic grotto]

Iirc the remaster wasn’t too much of a change was it? I also didn’t play with RT or anything

My 3070 can only do so much

[hoary hatch]

HFW doesn't have rt

Idk if HZD remaster does

[slim pebble]

I have an unhealthy relationship with Hell Divers 2

[toxic grotto]

Hzd did on pc launch without remaster

[hoary hatch]

While HZD looks good on PC, but sometimes I'm like "yeah this is a port of a PS4 game"

[toxic grotto]

Oh it’s a very Sony styled game

But I dig the style

Same with Returnal, absolutely love that game

[hoary hatch]

The frozen wilds dlc looks gorgeous compared to the base game

[toxic grotto]

Is frozen wilds dlc first or second game? I remeber there being a mountains dlc for the first game but I never finished it iirc

[hoary hatch]

First game

Yeah it's in the mountains

The machines are much tougher than the base game

[toxic grotto]

Yeah I remember that I just don’t think I ever finished it, don’t remeber why.

[hoary hatch]

I haven't gotten to forbidden west dlc yet

You have to finish the main story to unlock it

[toxic grotto]

Ahh, yeah I think it’s the same with the first game

[hoary hatch]

I'm right before the final mission but my ADHD won't let me start until I upgrade everything possible

[hoary hatch]

Naw

You just need to have a good kit to actually complete frozen wilds

[toxic grotto]

Really? I know the story of it comes after the story after the main game

[hoary hatch]

Nope

[toxic grotto]

??

But what’s his face runs into the mountains? I thought that was the point of the dlc

[hoary hatch]

You have to progress enough in the main game to get to the area of the map

[oak vector]

I’m very selective about when I play helldivers lmao

[hoary hatch]

But maybe like halfway?

[toxic grotto]

Ahh

[toxic grotto]

Helldivers not getting best ongoing game is strange tbh

[hoary hatch]

Silens? Nawww, he runs off to the forbidden west

[toxic grotto]

I swear in the cutscene it shows him going up into the mountains

Maybe it’s just been too many years

[hoary hatch]

Lol the map is surrounded by mountains so it could be confusing

[toxic grotto]

That’s fair

I gotta replay that game but too much atm

[slim pebble]

Who is more important, it’s really fun on hell diver mode with a squad that knows what they are doing

[hoary hatch]

Uhhh

What else do I have to play

[toxic grotto]

I loved the world and story, even if it’s the kinda bog standard open world, I enjoyed it.

[hoary hatch]

Still need to do mass effect PC remaster

[hoary hatch]

It's very good
But the sequel is a bit of a resource grind which is annoying

[toxic grotto]

I got like 5 hours into mass effect 1 with the bundle and it just wasn’t doing it for me

[hoary hatch]

Give ME2 a shot

ME1 is a completely different game

Or even start with ME3

it is my favorite franchise and I stared with 3

went back and got and played 2

[toxic grotto]

Maybe, if I ever remember. There’s just so much and ME kinda being a dead series I just forget about it. Same with dishonored, need to play that as some point but it’s just not something I think of

[hoary hatch]

then did 2->3 playthroughs

I starte 1 but didn't get very far

it was pain compared to what I was used to gameplay wise

[toxic grotto]

Also hot take time, halo isn’t that good when you don’t have nostalgia for it

[hoary hatch]

interesting

[toxic grotto]

ODST was very enjoyable, but it’s so short. The rest just aren’t great

[hoary hatch]

I had no halo experience and did my first halo playthrough in 2023

Halo reach was excellent

[toxic grotto]

No wait not odst

[hoary hatch]

Halo 3 was very good

I couldn't get past an hour of ODST

[toxic grotto]

Wait what’s the halo where your in like an open world city kind of map

Is that odst or reach?

[hoary hatch]

CE
2
3
reach
4
5
infinite

uhhhhhh infinite is open world but not a city

[toxic grotto]

It was odst, big city map. Really liked that one

I couldn’t get into reach. Played 3 and 4 with some friends and didn’t like them much.

[hoary hatch]

I like 4 but my understanding that is one of the least favored

I want to play 5 but no PC version

[toxic grotto]

I can see why, the designs are kinda boring compared to others, and you run out of ammo in 2 seconds.

3 had better levels but the story was so bad

I liked the open nature of odst

[hoary hatch]

I need to finish CE still

[toxic grotto]

I’ve heard CE is the best but haven’t touched it

[hoary hatch]

I've been told the same

but if you play the other halos first, CE gameplay feels rough

[toxic grotto]

Halo is just one of those franchises I didn’t grow up with it and I don’t appreciate it ig

[edgy laurel]

CE is the only Halo

I'lll fight you.

[hoary hatch]

I probably played 3 hours of forge at a friends house growing up and that was my halo experience

[toxic grotto]

Oh yeah I guess guilty would be someone that likes halo, kinda forgot about the pfp :p

[edgy laurel]

truth be told I really only played CE, 2 and a little bit of 3. It ended there.

I don't know squat about anything Halo related past 3

[hoary hatch]

damn CE was 2001
in 2001 I was playing Freddi Fish games

[fringe vigil]

So I fixed my Mac, kinda, it boots but only to my usb lol, I tried to reinstall on the internal drive but it doesn’t show up

[wraith steeple]

[toxic grotto]

I don’t remeber if I played 2. I haven’t played CE, 3 was okay, odst I liked, 4 was okay, couldn’t get into reach

[brisk jolt]

are we supposed to do a ferrari and say “must be the internal drive”

[edgy laurel]

I was hooking up my Xbox to my network and playing system link games over the internet with VPN software

[toxic grotto]

In 2001 I was being born :)

[hoary hatch]

nasty

[vale cosmos]

old!!!!

[wraith steeple]

2001 I was still living in Iraq

[toxic grotto]

Zoomer

[vale cosmos]

even more old!

[edgy laurel]

2001 I was in high school..

[hoary hatch]

my first actual gaming experience was a bunch of crappy Tycoon games on a windows XP HP pavilion

[vale cosmos]

true enough

[hoary hatch]

put in a stupid amount of hours to this game

[toxic grotto]

We had a family computer with xp and a hodgepodge of random disk games, including incoming! And mechwarrior 3. Eventually there were flash games websites and then Roblox

[hoary hatch]

how safe do we think this website is

surely theres no malware

[vale cosmos]

my family computer was windows vista then upgraded to windows 7

[hoary hatch]

I didn't know about roblox until that kanye roblox music video came out

[toxic grotto]

All the malware is meant for windows xp your fine

[hoary hatch]

This is how I found out about roblox

[toxic grotto]

I played Roblox before it was what it is now, games were small and janky and it wasn’t infested with… bad actors

[hoary hatch]

i've still never played it

[brisk jolt]

theres like 0 relevant good games on the platform anyway

[hoary hatch]

I need to transplant my PC again tomorrow

[edgy laurel]

My familly computer was Mac OS 7, then 9 and then OS X

funny actually, how some of it is the same in 2025 @topaz veldt

[wraith steeple]

I remember using 8 and 9 on the school computers for a bit

Classic Mac OS

[edgy laurel]

ahh, the days

[warm urchin]

Early power pc was something else, lots of fun to encounter as a kid

[hoary hatch]

didn't use a mac until 2011

[pure garnet]

i got really into the idea of using a mac as a teenager

and now the os just pisses me off when i go to use it

[young void]

Cobras, flops, or pey may be worth the snag. If in needs

[fervent elm]

Micron ddr5 ics are the big suck

and them completely pulling out of the consumer market is part of what caused this shortage in the first place

[young void]

Just 6400 cl 38s nothing special

[edgy laurel]

none of that matters if you have a DDR5 board and are in need of memory

for it to function

[young void]

Right right

[fervent elm]

True

[pure garnet]

no

[fervent elm]

Yes

[pure garnet]

micron pulling out their crappy housebrand is not what pulled the memory shortage

micron ICs do suck though

they're still selling direct to oem, they're just not packaging junk ram for low margin

[fervent elm]

Ah

[steel stream]

the ram price increase is good

it increases shareholder value

[topaz veldt]

Smh

[hoary hatch]

As a teen I was just happy to use a computer

We had macs in a media class in highschool

Well the room was a couple generations of iMacs, bunch of Mac pros (og cheese graters), and xserver

[whole coral]

First snow event here tomorrow night into Sunday. Excited

[young void]

Gets ett andos

[whole coral]

Could end up with 3-4 inches of snow after this event is done

That would be nice

[young void]

Always fun to have the crisp winter air take hold at least for alittle, dont forget to pre shop. Incase the roads ice up

[whole coral]

Damn it I should’ve gotten hot chocolate for Sunday morning

Hot chocolate on a snowy morning is so nice

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/weather-snow-snowyday-pinetrees-hotcocoa-gif-5045826

[wise bear]

Can't sleep 😔

This is bunk

[verbal berry]

Same im nervous for my second interview

[turbid locust]

gl be honest be real

if you dont know the answer to something literally say that

dont make up some bullshit to sound smart

[verbal berry]

Thanks

[turbid locust]

yw lol

[merry stirrup]

finally 🙏

[pure garnet]

wtf floppa playing a game

[merry stirrup]

dont get your hopes up

[turbid locust]

not just a game

peak. He's playing peak.

[merry stirrup]

its my fav game of all time

[pure garnet]

my 9800x3d is currently watching someone stream a game on discord while i scroll through my steam library

[turbid locust]

it's up there for me fs

[merry stirrup]

could never be more peak

[turbid locust]

I probably have 3k hours in that game across platforms

[merry stirrup]

something like that for me too

[pure garnet]

im still running up my total in the catgirl game

[turbid locust]

i think my most played game on steam is somehow still OG MW3 lol

yeah

[merry stirrup]

in hindsight gaige was a terrible pick to take to op 10

may just leave this character at level 80 and swap to sal or maya

[turbid locust]

Gaige was the only character i never took to OP8

[merry stirrup]

the worst one

[turbid locust]

lol

[merry stirrup]

oml wait theres a lyuda behind it

[turbid locust]

I've gotten a legit 94% sham

[merry stirrup]

im gonna kill myself

under leveled

[turbid locust]

I probably couldnt get proof but I had the clip on PS4

[merry stirrup]

i got close, my peak in bl2 is getting a perfect hide of terra in 1 day

[turbid locust]

jfc

[merry stirrup]

never did it again

still hate terra

[turbid locust]

94% sham is def my craziest moment, but I did also get back to back pearls out of snowman chest once

[merry stirrup]

damn thats wild

snowman is so fun you reminded me i should do that

im in the new dlc farming uranus rn

[turbid locust]

I need to play BL1 again man

Idk if I like BL1 or 2 more

[merry stirrup]

def bl2 for me but i see the vision in bl1 and the story behind it is way cool

considering the game was going to be entirely different like 3 months before it was out they did a great job

[turbid locust]

BL2 story was better imo but BL1's gameplay dude

that game feels so gritty

[merry stirrup]

bl so fun

[turbid locust]

BL3 was and still is mid imo

[merry stirrup]

the gameplay is fun the rest isnt

the farming is boring and the story was L

[turbid locust]

BL4 was such a clusterfuck I didnt even give it as proper playthrough yet

maybe when I get a better gpu idk

[merry stirrup]

i dont care to

a borderlands game that doesnt run good isnt a borderlands game

how is an art style known for being light on hardware and cartoonish putting modern computers to their knees

[turbid locust]

UE5 moment

[merry stirrup]

stewpid innit

[turbid locust]

Floppa when ARL tuning tutorial

cpu side

[merry stirrup]

when i learn what a DLVR bypass means

my chip is L sample and ocf has issues on the v/f curve

i was also told not to update my bios so im gonna sit and wait

[turbid locust]

apparently my chip has good cores I just don’t know how to tune Intel LMAO

[merry stirrup]

under right cooling id expect 5.4 or 5.5+5ghz

[turbid locust]

I would like to make it perform better and also be cool with like not running 90C

[turbid locust]

all core?

[merry stirrup]

yes

[turbid locust]

oh

[merry stirrup]

thats like good chip in my brain

[turbid locust]

how many million watts

[merry stirrup]

a ton

doesnt seem any different than RPL in that sense

i was doing basic core tunes and i ended up at like 335w

[turbid locust]

I just don’t want it drawing dumb shit in game

[merry stirrup]

it wont

[turbid locust]

cause this AIO is LOUD

[merry stirrup]

should generally be under 120, prolly avg like 100w

[turbid locust]

Someone told me LF3 is bad on ARL but idk if I believe em

[merry stirrup]

it is+contact frame changes memory

[fringe fossil]

Make that 300w and we’ll have a deal

[merry stirrup]

if you can avoid it at all just dont mess with the ILM on your board

[turbid locust]

id rather die

[merry stirrup]

its not worth killing the intel stock mounting pressure spec

[turbid locust]

ive decided im coping on 8600 till I can bother putting more time into getting 9K going

[merry stirrup]

torque wrench or somethin maybe

[merry stirrup]

thats fair i mean i game at 8k lol

[turbid locust]

XMP is 8200 for me

[merry stirrup]

yeah mines 8

[merry stirrup]

literally just 8k with my 9k subs and timings

[young void]

New Amazon update is trashh

When it does this and you cant see used sections is lame

[slender abyss]

I haven't used amazon in a while

Shopee and taobao recently got that irritating update that redirects you to a feed when you click on any item

And i have to click again to get to the actual item

Was copying insta/tiktok a good move?

It just chases me away

I've just stopped using them to buy things

And started losing hundreds on options

[pure garnet]

that's all i ever did

now im just leaving this pc alone at 6400 and only tinkering with side machines

[turbid locust]

tame daily is meta

[pure garnet]

i only really run 6400 for the novelty
of it anyway

i was only going to return this cpu if it was a 6000 2000fclk high vsoc bin

[arctic bronze]

Amazon is my main go to for basically anything

[brisk jolt]

diabolical

[brisk jolt]

what do u consider high vsoc

[merry stirrup]

above 1.2x

[brisk jolt]

this 9800x3d went 1.2vsoc on auto

yeah fuck this chip

[merry stirrup]

auto means nothing

[pure garnet]

my 7800x3d can do 6000 2133 at 1.15v

[brisk jolt]

my 9950x3d is comin on monday

[pure garnet]

so anything worse than that would go back

[merry stirrup]

auto is generally up to the board

[brisk jolt]

6200 1.3vsoc failed anyway smh

[pure garnet]

as the core clocks don’t matter to me when the imc tile is awful

[brisk jolt]

not stable

[pure garnet]

jesus

[merry stirrup]

gaming

[pure garnet]

i’m at 1.25v but judging by my testing i could do 6400 at 1.2v

i just like, don’t wanna retest for 50mv

[merry stirrup]

media is growin so fast i might need some more storage

[brisk jolt]

1.5v 6200 2067 C30 1.3vsoc errored like…. 1hr in

I had the fan blowing on the ram so like

[pure garnet]

oof

[brisk jolt]

this really is trynna drive a shitbox with the AC on

press on the gas and you decelerate

[pure garnet]

i literally setup my ram config, hit start karhu it lived for a few hours

ran vt3 overnight and results were consistent so i called it

[brisk jolt]

I get to say hi to 9950x3d on monday

mpower probably tuesday or so

[pure garnet]

i get mpower wednesday

but it’s just getting the 7800x3d for now

[brisk jolt]

my est delivery’s tues/wed

[pure garnet]

@merry stirrup i wonder if i can reuse your doohickey case for the b850 mpower

[brisk jolt]

ram fan’s the same

[merry stirrup]

yes

[brisk jolt]

as in the hook thingy idk

[merry stirrup]

its the same, even the pinout is the same

[pure garnet]

oh

[merry stirrup]

can literally just plug it in

[pure garnet]

i might just use the same doohickey then

[merry stirrup]

lol its smart

[pure garnet]

i have the wire fed out the back of my case

[merry stirrup]

the case looks way better than it does stock w/out

[pure garnet]

but i need to order a front panel splitter cable

so i can have the actual power button working again

[merry stirrup]

unfortunately

[merry stirrup]

yea

[brisk jolt]

should i have my card vertical

bcs like the extra fan I have there

[warped mountain]

Question. So GeForce now.
I attached all my accounts but when I go to lanch call of Duty it keeps asking me to buy it.. call of Duty 7 I bought on Xbox store.. I have my Xbox store linked and I have my forza and everything like that. How do I tell it to load the Xbox version? (I have my battle net account linked to and I think MW3 is on that account.

It's funny because the battlenet versions aren't supposed to be Xbox anywhere but they totally work if you just log into your Xbox account on like your buddies Xbox... But I was advised that getting the Microsoft store version or the Xbox version is the most stable way to get call of Duty.

TL;DR how to have G-Force now launch Xbox/windows store version of game

[verbal berry]

dont u have to do cloud via xbox gamepass ultimate to do anything with xbox stuff

[warped mountain]

No it's, so if you buy it from the Windows store you technically get a game that is dual license for Windows and for Xbox. (On compatible games)

If you buy it from steam or battlenet it's not supposed to be able to do that.
But with modern warfare 3 as long as you logged into the Xbox account that was linked to your battle.net you could play the game on your buddies console logged in as yourself. So idk.
Maybe it's because he owned the game? I have not tried it on a console that didn't already have an authorized account with the Xbox version downloaded.

see how it says battle net? thats from BO6. BO7 Ihave on xbox/windows store.

but my xbox account is linked as well

ahem ... never mind

im a moron

hamburger menu ... lets see if it works

[verbal berry]

i guess activision, battlenet, and nvidia all just hate u

[warped mountain]

these settings look good?

[verbal berry]

better upload than mine and it runs fine for me so yeah

[warped mountain]

All right cool I've been trying to play around with the free version to see if it makes sense for me to buy a paid version... Having a 4080 I feel like it doesn't make a ton of sense but it would let me game on the go which is nice. Especially with my limited time.

I had no idea that you could literally take your Android phone put it in a kickstand case connect a Xbox controller and play video games directly on your phone through G-Force now 🤯. Like I kind of assumed it was technically possible because you can play G-Force now in a browser.. but I didn't know people were actually doing that

[warped mountain]

WTF is this 🫤 y'all play like this??

[brisk jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/fsr-gif-22015334

[warped mountain]

?

[warped mountain]

4 sessions in a row did this and I gave up. 🫤.

[turbid locust]

how is this the games fault lmao

nvm i used my brain sorry

seems like ur connection ig

[warped mountain]

Doesn't show anything I think

[warped mountain]

#tech-chat-2 message

[turbid locust]

yeah ping seems rough

[civic reef]

Going to murder ASRock

2x x16 slots, no x1s to be found

x1 PCIe Format found dead in the Thames

B650M PG Lightning detained for questioning

[turbid locust]

pcie 16x slots are 1x

idk if anyone told you

[civic reef]

I don't mean lanes

Actual size

[turbid locust]

yes

you can literally

put a 1x card in a 16x

IT'S PCIE

[civic reef]

Oh my days

Well that clears up alot

[livid flame]

Scam of the century. Claiming a chrome book is part of a gaming setup

[signal timber]

Maybe his son played Flappy Bird or Angry Birds

Or they were using cloud gaming services

[empty elk]

Rate my budget gaming rig
i5 12600kf
GTX 1650
16GB RAM

please

[merry stirrup]

1650 and 12600kf crazy

[signal timber]

Should have spend less money on CPU and more on GPU you have a massive bottleneck right there

[empty elk]

It's not built/bought yet, still doing research lining up the right parts. Is there a GPU that's inbetween the 1650 and the RTX 3060?

[oak vector]

flopa

[livid flame]

Imagine trying to use this to call your setup a gaming pc.

[signal timber]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[proud void]

aaaaa

idk what to pick

• Don't want to use WordPress due to recent meltdown and exploits
• Tf is wrong with blogger peeps why is there no guide or documentation to properly adapt blogger page into mobile
• Google sites?
• Github page has small storage
• Squarespace
• Joomla is too complicated and the only guide I have is a book from my mom that is from 2013 (?)
• Hostinger?
• Cloudflare pages + R2?

[frail robin]

THE COMOUTER LIVES

ITS ALIVE

[young void]

https://tenor.com/view/frankenstein-its-alive-gif-10618052

Dassss booot ggs

[topaz veldt]

god TC1 is intolerable

dude is going on about Trident Royals "about money and control" like what the fuck

Trident Z Royals were the shit because GSkill used to spend time testing batches and finding high performing, saving people the effort of doing it themselve. Thats it. That's the secret. I dunno wtf this clown is talking about money and control lol

[proven saddle]

ye for me it was midnight

[proven saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-alive-gif-11205409

[vocal plume]

Eh. Just one person there was intolerable

Everyone else was fine for the most part

[tranquil finch]

Is ok rtx 5060 on pcie 3.0?

[merry stirrup]

ig

[vocal plume]

Youll probably see about a 10% ish performance hit as the 5060 is pcie 8x only

[young void]

Why olaxxxx

[tranquil finch]

What Gpu should i get on pcie 3.0 mobo with r5 5600, now there is rx 580

[young void]

XD, thats fair

[edgy laurel]

what was wrong with the 5060 you just mentioned

[tranquil finch]

I need something for my brother for christmas

[vocal plume]

I mean itll still be fine

[tranquil finch]

Idk i asked

Or which amd Gpu?

[south shuttle]

pcie 3.0 won’t be a limitation unless you get a gpu with low bus bandwidth and low bus lanes

like 6500xt

[merry stirrup]

aka 4 laner

[south shuttle]

but even in that case it’s not going to take 50% of your perf

[south shuttle]

floppa i lived through war in tc1 after defending scalpers xd

[tranquil finch]

But rtx 5060 ti 8gb runs really bad

On pcie 3

[south shuttle]

lower bandwidth card y

[toxic grotto]

Oh we’re royals actually better? I thought it was just lighting :p

[livid flame]

Tc1 is the shit posting tc channel

[south shuttle]

it won’t be horrendous

[edgy laurel]

not due to PCIe 3

[south shuttle]

a lot of them just threw ad hominems

it went like this:

[edgy laurel]

well, i guess thats not entirely true in all games

[south shuttle]

scalpers bad! oh scalpers are resellers
resellers bad! oh capitalism
capitalism bad! it’s just bad
stop being so stupid!

[edgy laurel]

nevermind, it is ass

[livid flame]

Bandwidth. Fuck yeah.

[vocal plume]

Christ that 8gb card really is kneecapped

[livid flame]

8gb is all you need

[south shuttle]

by nvidia inc

[livid flame]

Apparently

[toxic grotto]

If we game on Mac it’s 16gb anyways

[vocal plume]

Mac gaming....

[livid flame]

Game on Mac

[vocal plume]

[south shuttle]

linux on mac

-999% iq move or +999% iq move

[livid flame]

Minus

[south shuttle]

fair

[toxic grotto]

Getting rid of macOS is always the correct choice

[tranquil finch]

The rtx 5060 ti 8gb even on pcie 5.0 performs that bad?

Tf

[south shuttle]

right if you can’t do it the good way you have to do it the hard way

[brisk jolt]

vram limitation

[south shuttle]

and that is to smack the hell out of the mac

until it resembles a crushed cube of scrap

[livid flame]

I’d scalp macs if I could

[south shuttle]

scalp mac stick a dell logo on it and sell as linux machine for +100% profit

also how’s looking new apple silicon?

i haven’t been checking macs and iphones for a longer time

[livid flame]

Nanometers of goodness

Unless you’re android then you hate it

[warm urchin]

M5 is somehow another big leap over M4 and they’re just sort of clowning on Qualcomm

[shell void]

colossal r&d budget go brrr

[south shuttle]

even mediatek clowning on qualcomm

bro xiaomi is catching up 💀

in mobile space

though qualcomm has a bit better support than mediatek

but mediatek performance ⤴️

[livid flame]

Money make line go up

Change of topic but Lewis Hamilton

[dapper junco]

looks like he's continuing the ferrari ex world champion retirement home trend

[brisk jolt]

“Through goes hamilton to the retirement home!”

[heavy spire]

Feels like the recent mediatek ones came out of nowhere

Granted I havent paid that much attention to mobile stuff, but they suddenly popped up and is on par or beating the snapdragons

[brisk jolt]

That was fast, I already got the 9950x3d

that was like… basically within 1 day

[young void]

[topaz veldt]

@edgy laurel you missed this mornings genius convo

[fringe vigil]

What happened

[livid flame]

Some dude triggered people because he buys and sells dram

People get very offended

[topaz veldt]

Our resident bad takes guy has bad takes and is supportive of scalping consumer gaming hardware

[livid flame]

Linus didn’t join chat

Although I’m sure with his bad takes he wouldn’t support it. I dunno.

[topaz veldt]

No one who has tried to build a PC, on any budget, would condone scalping

[livid flame]

It’s certainly ruined your day it seems

[topaz veldt]

It started my day

I have way too many buddies trying to find shit so they or their kids can play games and this dude is completely numb to the community

[young void]

I know like 10 peeps needing ram rn

Its crazy xD

[topaz veldt]

They should just scalp it

[civic reef]

Harro 5nail

I solved the dilemma of CL46 5600 memory

The solution? Just buy a laptop instead

[livid flame]

I solved the dilemma of needing ram

Just buy it

[topaz veldt]

Nooooo but I get it

[livid flame]

From @south shuttle

[topaz veldt]

That brokey doesn't have any RAM

He just supports you suffering

[livid flame]

I’m not suffering

[brisk jolt]

$2 i have more ram in my itx than him

[civic reef]

16gb sticks for 100 USD.. Plus I need a laptop anyway

[livid flame]

Got what I need. Didn’t need to get offended

[civic reef]

I am buying it on a payment plan, 30% down

This thing

[topaz veldt]

And this proves my point

[civic reef]

.. Which one?

[livid flame]

Buying a cheap ass laptop proves what exactly?

[topaz veldt]

Mrsphantom needs a laptop, has to finance it, and kveshitscky is endorsing scalping

[livid flame]

Oh lord

You really do need to go outside and touch grass over a £300 laptop

[civic reef]

.. I am not really following?

[south shuttle]

i stopped recommending ram since they went up 1.3x

[livid flame]

More like 300%

[brisk jolt]

Basically
Why do you need to finance a $450 laptop

[south shuttle]

yes but i stopped recommending since 1.3x

[topaz veldt]

Literally has no idea lol

[livid flame]

Ram prices isn’t why someone finances a £300 laptop

[civic reef]

I am a minor who's pay isn't anything great

$30-50

[livid flame]

If you think that’s the reason why. Go outside, touch grass, come back.

[topaz veldt]

Uh did you see the point that they stopped looking for dimms

[livid flame]

Bigger problems in the world if you’re buying something that cheap and complaining about ram prices

[civic reef]

There's a possibility of it going up to $130, but, but that's still a few extra months of saving that I don't really want to wait

[brisk jolt]

I have 2 options to either keep a kit for backup or to straight sell it

[livid flame]

God forbid a minor is priced out of an expensive hobby

[civic reef]

I really am not following still, sorry

What's the discussion even about

[brisk jolt]

you shouldnt be financing stuff at all even as a minor tbh

[livid flame]

£100 ram becomes £300. Now looking at a £300 laptop. Thats not the reason why. Like I said, go outside and touch grass you’ll come back less woke and offended

[topaz veldt]

get a new phrase dude its fucking lame

[civic reef]

I can support it, I get payed enough

It's not my preferred method of purchasing things, but I'll make an exception once

[topaz veldt]

@civic reef you were looking for DIMMs, yes?

[civic reef]

Yes, I was

[brisk jolt]

If you start financing you'll potentially develop a mindset that its fine to finance other things

[topaz veldt]

do you own a house?

[civic reef]

Saw a $65 server intended stick that ended up being 249.99

[topaz veldt]

Yep

[civic reef]

Again, one exception

[brisk jolt]

point still stands

[signal timber]

true

[civic reef]

If my salary is bumped up to the mentioned $130 I won't really need to finance anything else

Because $130 is plenty for my needs

[brisk jolt]

salary bumped to $130 is crazy

[civic reef]

Get one component a month

[civic reef]

A month, yes
From 30 US a month to 130

[topaz veldt]

And this is the point - so what you don't have is the backstory that someone found a cheap DDR5 kit and kvetshky or whatever told them to buy it and resell it because the price was "old" and the new price is $350 so they should profit on it.... and it hurts people like yourself, scalping on top of an already insane market

[signal timber]

130 per week or what

[brisk jolt]

Even if I sell my ram at x2 what I bought its still below what like 30 other people are listing em for lmfao

[topaz veldt]

Yes, and this is the problem

They're scalping on top of the inflated market

Its disgusting

[brisk jolt]

i shit u not one guy I see has 6 listings for scalped ram at x3 what they’re worth. Best part? During 12 Dec you couldve bought the same shit for $100 cheaper

[topaz veldt]

These people are soulless goblins

[civic reef]

Sounds scummy tbh
If I was to resell it, I'd just put it at $80 or something

Whatever it costs to make up whatever I payed in shipping & taxes, no profit

I assume $80 for 1x32GB of CL46 5600 is still good in current markets?

[signal timber]

Did the DDR3 price go up too i got some somewhere

[civic reef]

Monthly

[brisk jolt]

I’ve seen ram as low as $340 SGD on 12.12, dude is listing his shit starting from $400 which is crazy because even without the sale and vouchers, thats literally brand new from retail shops

[signal timber]

Thats.. very low salary

[topaz veldt]

I don't follow 5600 CL46 but yeah thats probably still cheap, but I would never suggest, openly in public on a computer enthusiast discord, that someone go take advantage of people over computer hardware

[civic reef]

As a minor I'd say it's quite decent

[topaz veldt]

Like every single person here was upset when they couldn't get a 4000 series or 5000 series GPU lets not pretend this doesn't affect people

[signal timber]

Man im 15 and the jobs im looking at rn pay 1.2k € per month

[brisk jolt]

5nail werent they also arguing over the speed? lol

[civic reef]

I'd ping mods if I saw someone ACTIVELY encourage scalping

[brisk jolt]

ram’s so bad rn just care about capacity you need over their speed

[topaz veldt]

I dunno all I saw was kvetshky actively encouraging scalping

[civic reef]

It's just a sidegig really

[brisk jolt]

If you’re gonna buy RAM to scalp it in a market as horrible as this you should gtfo

[topaz veldt]

that's what I'm saying

[brisk jolt]

because you dont need it lmfao

that guy is so fucking greedy

[topaz veldt]

the response was "its how business works" (lol not kidding you)

[signal timber]

For wahtever job you do 32$ per week is way too low in my opinion

[brisk jolt]

Yeah I saw

[civic reef]

If it was still $65 I'd genuinely buy a bunch of it and sell at a dollar profit

[brisk jolt]

I saw ur conversation, went to sleep. Woke up, and you were like “Im done with this sped”

[civic reef]

Make little bits of cash whilst giving people cheap ram :3

[topaz veldt]

yeah then i woke up again and saw mrsphantom pivot to buying a whole laptop vs. the memory and its like reiterating the point (even if they don't understand it)

[signal timber]

You are crazy if you are selling cheap ram with these prices

[topaz veldt]

So like... with all due respect, within the community, you will quite literally be banned from sites like hardwaresales/etc. if they see you charging more than what you paid

I was selling 3 4090s for $2100-2200/ea and got DM'd by admins to see receipts so they knew I wasn't scalping

[civic reef]

Again, you read what I previously wrote
Purchase, list for enough to cover taxes, and $1 profit to afford more cheap ram to sell to people

[topaz veldt]

yes I follow

[civic reef]

I am not doing this, I am too broke to buy anything significant

[topaz veldt]

but my point is my point

[civic reef]

But the idea was to take advantage of cheap RAM to try and help with the market

[topaz veldt]

you want to flip cars or houses? fine - there's risk. flipping memory and gpus (for more than tax/shipping) is just hurting people who want to fucking chill and play games

[civic reef]

Since this is a local Lebanese store that I doubt people will buy from worldwide

Not the point though, was just an idea

[topaz veldt]

Well the other thing I have no experienced twice on eBay trying to buy an entire server is that the stuff is listed as say $999 and then when I placed the order, I got a "Hey sorry this is no longer in stock"

[brisk jolt]

kvet’s idealogy is the definition of adding fuel to the fire

[topaz veldt]

its caustic

enterprise hardware? maybe - again, there's risk involved

but scalping people over gaming hardware is just low iq

[civic reef]

Oh yeah, hate those
Just remove the listing if it's gone, lad 💔

[topaz veldt]

Well its not "gone"

they are just lazy and decided they'll say its out of stock if someone orders it vs. going thru and editing because of memory prices

[pure garnet]

i’ve yet to see a good take from that

[civic reef]

Reminds me of the horror stories of 30 series scalping

[topaz veldt]

30s, 40s, and 50s dude

Its so funny too like I camped at MC at release you can totally see the scalpers

[civic reef]

50 series I've seen, but I heard that 30 series was even worse due to bitcoin bros

[brisk jolt]

The duration of this is on the scale of the 30 series

[topaz veldt]

wearing fucking balenciaga shoes and pants lol

[topaz veldt]

honestly it wasn't much different at all

[civic reef]

Should've shanked them with DDR3 shanks

[topaz veldt]

they'll catch karma

[steel stream]

some of my old coworkers were scalping 3060s lol

[civic reef]

Blessed by ZoTac ofcourse (iirc they had a system in place to stop scalping)

[civic reef]

KILL KILL KILL

[topaz veldt]

No joke 8-10 of us became friends in the MC line for 16 hours lol... we saw dudes behind us literally checkout, get the GPU, go to their car, and then you open FBM in the area and the micro center building is in the background of their pic "MSI 5090 $6000"

scumbag lifestyle

[pure garnet]

30 series had the people trapped in their house so it felt worse aspect

[topaz veldt]

One of my friends who has 6 kids and single income was saving up all year for a PC for his 11 year old for xmas and now its $250+ short. I thought he had RAM already so I bought him Arc Raiders the other day, but now I am prob gonna donate or loan some RAM.. but not everyone has a friend who can lend them RAM

so apologies when I see people suggest to fucking scalp shit

[civic reef]

Ew

Anyway.. Can I get some opinions on the laptop I chose?

[brisk jolt]

Not gonna lie, Im prob gonna keep my old kit and do the same as a backup

Best solution is to stay away and not go near the problem if you’re well off with what you need

[civic reef]

SODIMM slot is occupied with I believe an 8GB stick (the 15IRH10 has 8GB soldered already), monitor is WUXGA (1200p) IPS, and there's an empty PCIe 4x4 NVMe slot to use alongside the included 512GB micron drive

Battery is either a 50 or 60 Wh iirc

[pure garnet]

i would imagine it’s fine

[topaz veldt]

It just sucks it takes people off the market... how you can propose to upcharge from the insane prices already blows my mind if that's not apparent

[civic reef]

I don't intend on doing anything on it other than daily driving or very light gaming

[topaz veldt]

Like enterprise gear, I don't care - I buy "lots" - like, a pallet of gear with general model numbers only no specs, its a risk. Sometimes I win sometimes I lose. But consumer shit is sad.

[topaz veldt]

That laptop is very similar to the one my wife uses

[shell void]

time to list my $160 memory kit for $700

[topaz veldt]

I will find you

[civic reef]

What's she think of her machine?

[pure garnet]

my $220 kit is up to $570

[civic reef]

Time to gain $160 worth of memory and 100 years worth of life sentence

[topaz veldt]

works well enough for her - she has an asus zenbook, its 16GB I think, 512GB NVme, i5 (though I dunno the gen)

[pure garnet]

so i’ll take a generous 500 lowball

[shell void]

usings bots to buy things and then scalp them is cringe, but i dont blame someone for selling what they already have at a high price

[topaz veldt]

but they don't have it

the proposal was to buy it off of an unsuspecting person with the only intent of reselling it

I see dudes on HWS post 6000 CL30 kit $135 please do not scalp it

just trying to be good dudes

[pure garnet]

it’s crazy that’s now like a super generous offer

[civic reef]

If it's anything 12th gen or higher, then similar enough

[brisk jolt]

Imma go do a CPU operation rq

[signal timber]

RAM worth more then the laptop

[pure garnet]

it was $80 for those specs when my sister got am5 stuff

[topaz veldt]

yeah its a... now you got me wanting to turn it on

[brisk jolt]

The world’s already so shit and you come in just to make it worse like cmon man

[floral spear]

Installing the AIO was a disaster

Struggling on the mounting bracket, accidentally smeared thermal paste around

[civic reef]

Lmao

[floral spear]

CPU is running 0.65ghz 95 degrees

[topaz veldt]

its a 1240P w/ DDR5

[civic reef]

One second

[pure garnet]

don’t tighten one side

[floral spear]

Anyways

[topaz veldt]

I actually use two screwdrivers to smoosh down evenly

[pure garnet]

just have it thread in enough to hook them get the other side in

[floral spear]

I bought some thermal paste , gonna clean it up and repaste

[civic reef]

Looks like a great CPU tbh
12 cores, 4P 8E, Iris Xe

[floral spear]

Thermalgrizzly something

Hopefully it's good enough

[topaz veldt]

yeah it works for her

[pure garnet]

i just hold the pump down and hope it works since the corsair uses thumbscrews

[floral spear]

I'm using the lf3 pro

[topaz veldt]

oh am4 bracket style

[civic reef]

I'll update yall when I get it around late December / Early January :3

[floral spear]

But other than that everything is fine

Just had to rewire some shit

[civic reef]

TRUE........

[floral spear]

Once the CPU is finally done I'll start cleaning up this shit hole

[civic reef]

Oh my days I just noticed this

No backlighting OR ethernet

[topaz veldt]

in one of my latest gambles I purchased a setup that had "1 box cables"

[steel stream]

it's rare to get ethernet on laptops now

[topaz veldt]

I dunno yet if it will be worthwhile or not, but within said box is in fact cables. All brand new 25 Gbps SFP28 Dell direct attach cables.

like 40-50 of them

[steel stream]

neat

[coral citrus]

why my amd performance tracing overlay is not showing when i click in hogwarts legacy? it is showing and i have it turned on it just doesnt show ingame

[topaz veldt]

yeah - usually its like power cords lol

[coral citrus]

when i switch from windowed to windowed fullscreen it just disappears

[brisk jolt]

goodbye 9800x3d

[pure garnet]

yeah it’s just standoffs in backplate and thumbscrews

[topaz veldt]

I might do the same, i dunno

[pure garnet]

another 9950x3d or putting it in the sff?

[topaz veldt]

I still don't know if 9950X3D2 will be real

[acoustic wren]

eat it

[pure garnet]

may as well wait, just a few weeks away

[topaz veldt]

not for 9950X3D2

only 9850X3D announced

[pure garnet]

if it’s real i would expect to see it at ces

otherwise it’s probably not

[civic reef]

I don't care about ethernet I want the backlight

[topaz veldt]

I want it to be real but it doesn't make a lot of sense

[civic reef]

And just when I thought I got a laptop that fits what I need with the colour (name) that fits the stupid little requirement my mind made up..
No backlighting!

Ugh, cheapest thing with a backlight is like 549 USD, not worth it

I'll just tilt the screen forward enough to see whenever I actually need to type

Hmm..
Should I get one with an R7 5700U or the 13420H

[topaz veldt]

imho intel way better

[civic reef]

I heard that Ryzen mobile chips heat up alot

[topaz veldt]

still gets hot, not the best battery, but ryzen mobile is ass

[pure garnet]

if you can get a 6000 series ryzen mobile chip the igpu is a lot nicer

otherwise i’d stay with an intel chip

[shell void]

ryzen hx370 is good but the rest are bleh

panther lake >>>>

[pure garnet]

shout out to my 7735hs that just failed to boot every so often

[topaz veldt]

MBP M4

so good

[fringe vigil]

m5 better mate

[civic reef]

Yeah I'd say not worth the vega igpu

[topaz veldt]

nah

[civic reef]

Okay, biting the bullet and getting a non-backlit laptop

[topaz veldt]

yolo

[fringe vigil]

wdym nah its like 15-30 faster in everything

[civic reef]

Wait, err.. Would a USB Antenna WiFi Adapter help with speeds? Or is the antenna just not enough to beat the internal WiFi card?

[coral citrus]

why my amd performance tracing overlay is not showing when i click in hogwarts legacy? it is showing and i have it turned on it just doesnt show ingame

[edgy laurel]

what is a non-backlight laptop

[civic reef]

Non-backlit keyboard

[edgy laurel]

CTRL + SHIFT + O

[bronze mango]

Audio is solved!

[coral citrus]

i know it works for me but when i switch from amd software to hogwarts legacy it disappears

[signal timber]

Whats that

[civic reef]

.. Quick question
How stupid is it that one of my requirements for getting a laptop is (if not black) the colour of it being specifically Luna Grey?

Ofcourse I'll disregard it if need be I am not that idiotic but still-

[bronze mango]

My equation sheet for electronics

For the final

[pure garnet]

high

[signal timber]

Now I can eithe rbe happy or sad that im dropping out next year

[coral citrus]

buy any laptop and then paint it your colour

[bronze mango]

Why are you dropping out?

Just switching programs?

[civic reef]

The colour isn't the issue itself
The parameter was Luna Grey

[signal timber]

Im on a school for Electrical Engeneering rn

[bronze mango]

Don't let the equation sheet freak you out @signal timber

Most of the math is easy

[signal timber]

I failed math for the past 3 years

[pure garnet]

@edgy laurel the clear plastic is back

[edgy laurel]

gross

[pure garnet]

idk i think with the gray it looks good

that’s the color i’d be buying

[bronze mango]

If it's calc 2 you failed, that's not too uncommon @signal timber . Don't let that get you down

[signal timber]

its not a university

[bronze mango]

Are you still in HS? College math will be much better. Don't let highschool hold you back if that's the case

[coral citrus]

how to fix amd overlay? when i alt tab from amd adrenaline to hogwarts legacy that is windowed fullscreen, it disappears and turning off and on overlay when being in hogwarts legacy doesnt help

[topaz veldt]

no its not lol

[signal timber]

here in austria its called HTL i think its the same as hs in america

only specified for the job you wanna do

[bronze mango]

I had terrible teachers in HS and I thought I sucked at math as a result but now I'm pretty regularly at the top of my classes

Highschool teachers can just suck tbh

They often don't know the material they're teaching and don't have the organizational skills to teach it

In college things will be much better

[signal timber]

The thing is taht a single F is enough and i cannot ascend into the next year, even if all other grades are good

[bronze mango]

If you need to, start at community college

[round sphinx]

Hey I have a tech savvy question

[signal timber]

I have no idea if we weven have that here

[bronze mango]

Community colleges will usually take you no matter your HS grades

And if you do good there, you can usually get into decent universities

[round sphinx]

What is your wifi router and I'll rank it. Is it single band or dual band or tri band or quad band and is if wifi 4 or wifi 5 or wifi 6 or wifi 6e or wifi 7

[signal timber]

I thought about dropping out and making a Apprenticeship, then doing the Matura afterwards

[topaz veldt]

The intelligent thing to do is 3 years at community college and then transfer your final year lol

[bronze mango]

Nah, don't drop out

[coral citrus]

how to fix amd overlay? when i alt tab from amd adrenaline to hogwarts legacy that is windowed fullscreen, it disappears and turning off and on overlay when being in hogwarts legacy doesnt help

[bronze mango]

Just wait it out. It gets a lot better once you get to college.

[signal timber]

Well with my F in math i have to repeat this year, and i have no idea if the next year will be better os it could also be a wasted year

[bronze mango]

Don't worry. You'll do better this time. Just study a little and watch videos on concepts you struggle and it'll be a breeze.

It is likely down to a bad teacher tbh. Don't blame yourself.

And don't let one bad class hold you back for the rest of your life

[signal timber]

What i have been doing for months, we even paid 500€ for tutution and it didnt help, i just suck at everythign with math

[bronze mango]

Which class is it?

[signal timber]

Youa re in teh US right

[bronze mango]

Yea

[signal timber]

i dont think that austrian and US school system can be compared that good

Im in 2nd year rn

[frail robin]

Motherboard is not cooked 🙏

[bronze mango]

There are certain math classes that will feel really hard until you get the concepts, but once they click you'll feel like a pro.

Just keep practicing and don't drop out

[frail robin]

https://tenor.com/view/sticker-yung-joc-crying-meme-man-crying-meme-thebeyonderrrr-gif-828328460466032722

[signal timber]

The thing is that we dont have classes like in universities

We have the subject math thats it

[bronze mango]

Which concepts did you struggle with? I can probably help you find some good resources

[signal timber]

Uh lemme translate few things from german to english

I ahve no idea how accurate the translation is but that are a few things that are coming up in the test on tuesday;

quadratic equation
mixed quadratic equation
pure quadratic equation
potent functions
linear and quadratic interpolation

[bronze mango]

Ah, so mostly quadratics

[brisk jolt]

the 9950x3d is in

[signal timber]

Thats the recent things yeah

[bronze mango]

Those I'd say are best to just practice over and over again until you have it down to muscle memory

Try and do like 3 with randomly generated numbers per day

[signal timber]

Im on it but i only have 2.5 more days

And that, is not much time

[bronze mango]

If you need to retake it, that's not the end of the world

You'll be more experienced and ready for the class if you retake it too

[signal timber]

its not, but if i fail again its a wasted year, and im not good with new people or people in general so i dont really want a new class

I never had to retake a year so idk

[bronze mango]

It's not fun, but one year of extra work to reach your goals isn't that bad in the long run 👍

[signal timber]

i know that, but even if i retake and then pass, then i got 3 more years coming up and i dont think it will get easier

[bronze mango]

The last classes you will probably have to take before college are probably trig and precalc. They're both pretty easy

You'll be fine

Especially at a HS level, they're even easier

Once you get the concepts you'll be set

[signal timber]

Thats what they said in the 1st year too and now im failing the 2nd

Im really running out of positive thinking atp

[fringe vigil]

bro wtf are you doing

[bronze mango]

Then think about the goal and not the work. Let that motivate you to grind through the work to reach that goal

Just practice 3 problems per day and you'll be far ahead of anyone in your class

It won't take long but it'll work

[coral citrus]

how to fix amd overlay? when i alt tab from amd adrenaline to hogwarts legacy that is windowed fullscreen, it disappears and turning off and on overlay when being in hogwarts legacy doesnt help

[bronze mango]

It'll probably work better than grinding through pages of problems too

[signal timber]

I have tried that and then my math teacher came up to me after a exam and told me straigth in the face she sees a long tunnelw ith no light at the end if she looks at me

my life is just cooked

[bronze mango]

She's an idiot

[signal timber]

She is indeed

but at the end she makes the grade

[bronze mango]

Prove her wrong

Don't let some random idiot hold you back forever

[signal timber]

On the last test she marked a number wrong because i drew a function graphs into a negative quadrant, that was the 1 point that didnt let me pass

The functiona nd graph itself were right, she just didnt like tha ti drew it too big or smth

I mean logically it doesnt make sense but mathematically its right

[bronze mango]

They must be miserable

[signal timber]

She is, the whole class hates her

[bronze mango]

It seems like they're trying to gatekeep at a highschool level

[proven saddle]

does it work?

[signal timber]

She definetly is, she says she is making it so hard because she wants to prepare us for graduation

16/22 people failed the last test

[bronze mango]

I hated highschool teachers with that mentality. College prepared you for college

Highschool does very little for you tbh

[signal timber]

yeah

I mean she said the graph i drew was wrong because it wasnt logically right but i dont think so because mathematically everything was right

[bronze mango]

Professors will do a better job teaching you what you need to know than highschool teachers will.

Worst case scenario though, retake the class and just study to prove them wrong

Once you're in college, nobody will care what you hs gpa was

[signal timber]

Ill look if its a good option, because right now I think even if i retake i will fail at the same things

lemme l;ook how my grades are looking rn

[signal timber]

i got a picture of the graph, maybe you can tell me if its really wrong

[bronze mango]

Sure

[proven saddle]

thats like 73%

[signal timber]

yep thats why we had to retake it

the whole fcking class

[proven saddle]

daimn

and again doing the test?

[bronze mango]

Teachers like that really should be held liable for harming society

If you're gonna teach it should be to see those you teach succeed and learn, not to feel superior to them.

[signal timber]

So what she said was wrong is because the graph is a simpel linear function for a bottle running out, I drew into the negative because it was easier she doesn't like it because a bottle can't have negative volume

mathematically its right but logically its not so idk

[bronze mango]

I mean... You can make a logical argument for it being right too.

Negative millimeters just means the opposite direction in positive millimeters

[signal timber]

milliliter*

[bronze mango]

Eh, even there. There are context where that could make sense

[signal timber]

Well a bottle cant really have a negative level

[bronze mango]

Tbf, I can't read the whole question

I can just interpret the units and variables

[signal timber]

i can translate it if you want

[bronze mango]

Sure

[devout ridge]

she’s technically right, but it’s kind of pedantic

[bronze mango]

It's still silly to mark you off for it

[devout ridge]

the limit would be y=|y|

[bronze mango]

If you want to make a function that can't be negative it should be represented in the function too

[devout ridge]

but it really doesn’t matter at all, everyone that looks at the graph and the problem would implicitly understand that

[signal timber]

A patient gets a infusion solution.
The remaining infusion solution in the bottle is described with the function f below;
[function]

t = time in h (hours) since 8pm
f(t) = remaining infusion solution for the timepoint t in ml

[devout ridge]

yeah and functions like that allow for negative y values, so teacher is kind of wrong

just cause it can’t really exist irl, doesn’t mean the function has a limit placed upon it in the problem

[signal timber]

She said it logically doesnt make sense because you cant pump out more then the bottle is filled with, mathematically its corrct

[bronze mango]

In that context a negative value would just represent the amount that they'd be short supposing the solution not be replaced

[signal timber]

Pretty much yeah

[bronze mango]

So I'd say a negative variable would be fine to graph too

[devout ridge]

yeah a negative variable would just have a slightly different meaning

teachers really don’t like negative values in irl problems for some reason

[warm urchin]

Kind of sounds like you’re doing too much and the teacher just needs you to answer the question right

[signal timber]

Yeah, like the graph shows if the patient would have been supplied for 15h they would have been about 20ml short

[devout ridge]

i mean it’s not uncommon to just continue the line, it looks like they just used a straight edge

[bronze mango]

Your teacher is straight up wrong tbh

[devout ridge]

it’s literally the difference between drawing a line for .5s and .6s

teacher is incorrectly pedantic, the worst kind of pedantic

if you’re gonna be a bitch, be a correct bitch

[signal timber]

If i go argue with her about a test that is about a month old then she aint going to be nice for the rest of the year

[devout ridge]

yeah that is absolutely something you just let go

not worth the time and effort, nor the consequences

[signal timber]

its something that maybe wouldnt let me fail too

[bronze mango]

Its a shame they have that mentality, but don't let that get you down.

[devout ridge]

next time be petty and explain why a negative value is sensible in your answer

[bronze mango]

Once you get to college I'd wager most professors would actually be glad to have you correct them on something like that.

[devout ridge]

college professors and high school teachers are very different though

[signal timber]

its also the way she teaches, we just write down from her on the projector mirroed ipad the whole hour and dont even calculate much, we can learn and try to calculate what we wrote down as homework

[devout ridge]

high school teachers i find to be more “prideful” and think they have the absolute right way of doing things

[warm urchin]

It’s a math problem about a bottle though. A bottle has finite contents, you can’t have a negative bottle

It’s algebra not theoretical physics

[bronze mango]

Yea, it's a shame

[devout ridge]

a negative value could very likely mean the shortage of solution the patient wasn’t given

[warm urchin]

Again, this is overthinking it, it’s a simple question with a simple solution. There is no need to get too cute about it

[signal timber]

yeah if the patient would have been supplied for over 9.83h they would have been short on supply

[bronze mango]

Yea, in real life you can have negative amplitudes for stuff like that still. It just usually represents something

Like a negative current would mean it's a positive current flowing in the opposite direction

[warm urchin]

Like yeah sure the 4th dimensional aspects of the bottle demand that there are quantum states of negative bottle held within a perfect anti bottle that exists for a quadrillionth of a second, but that’s not what the class is

[bronze mango]

No, the negative just represents the amount overdue. If they wanted it to be a positive only function they'd have to represent the function appropriately

Technically speaking, given the parameters of the question, the teacher was wrong. It's a shame they're the one holding him back and putting him down for their own ignorance.

[signal timber]

Shes just a nightmare, thats how it is

[warm urchin]

It’s not even wrong, he did too much work if anything. But following the premise of a question is part of a test, and that’s what he was penalized for

[signal timber]

She could have just let it slide and let me pass that test

[bronze mango]

He was penalized for graphing a negative value that per the function exists. If she put a limit then she'd be right.

[signal timber]

She didnt put a limit anyhwere, and also the text didnt specify a limit

[warm urchin]

I’m presuming this is high school or even a general education college course and I don’t think they’d get that specific unless it was calculus

[signal timber]

Its not a college, its not a high school in that sense, its a HTL, thats what we call it in austria

[bronze mango]

Yea, she's mathematically wrong and logically wrong. Per the question a negative value exists but just would logically represent an overdue amount given the lack of a refull

[bronze mango]

They wouldn't, but that means the teacher is wrong still.

Not getting specific isn't a reason to mark someone off for something you failed to specify.

[signal timber]

true but thats what she does

She has been on this school for 35 years she should retire ngl

[bronze mango]

But don't let them make you quit

[signal timber]

its not she that does make me quit i just have the wrong mindset and im bad at math

[bronze mango]

Just give math more practice and you'll feel you're better at it than you thought

[signal timber]

Im on it but if i fail the test on tuesday i dont think that there is ANY way to pass this year in math

https://tenor.com/view/fred-flintstone-abacus-the-flintstones-bookkeeping-calculation-gif-4844993792848328791

[fringe vigil]

Bro who tf told you to do those equations for sound

[brisk jolt]

@pure garnet looks like this chip isnt doing 1.3vsoc 6400C26

[pure garnet]

RIP

[turbid locust]

brutes

does it do 6400 at non stupid primaries

[brisk jolt]

testing 1.15vsoc 6000 rn

[turbid locust]

Have you tried 6400 at like cl30

[signal timber]

Whats that

[turbid locust]

more aggressive primaries need more VSoC

so if you can’t do 6400c26 you might be able to do 6400c30

If you’re right at the limit

[brisk jolt]

I can try, but 6400C26 errored at 7% lmao

[turbid locust]

My dogshit 7700x needed an additional 70mv vSOC for 6000c26 over c30

so like it’s a thing lol

[brisk jolt]

keep in mind this is still a 4 dimm board

mpower’s not comin till like tuesday or so

also testing is with igpu disabled

[pure garnet]

4 dimmers don’t fall apart till 7600+ roughly

any gear 1 fails are just chip or skill issues

[brisk jolt]

I see

im gonna sort gear 1 first

[turbid locust]

always sort gear 1 first lol

[pure garnet]

i don't think floppa enjoys my subs but this is what i daily

[turbid locust]

I wouldn’t mind seeing higher tREFI but

[pure garnet]

i have no ram fan, i could run 50000 but i typed it in from muscle memory on intel

[frail robin]

somehow yeah

[turbid locust]

Really shouldn’t be an issue considering 1.35v VDD and 5070Ti

[pure garnet]

borderline power limited 5070ti too

this thing never draws over 230w with my games

[turbid locust]

real

[limpid galleon]

is 650W enough for ryzen 5 3600, 32gb ram, 3060ti

[turbid locust]

Explode

[brisk jolt]

yes

[limpid galleon]

my power usage keeps saying high or very high

in task manager

i did auto overclock in ryzen master so idk if that affects it

[bronze mango]

They're for fet and bjt amplifiers. Im just making a joke about the frequency response portion

[limpid galleon]

is this normal on just discord

[turbid locust]

this does basically nothing for performance btw

[limpid galleon]

oh

[turbid locust]

all it does is potentially create issues lol

[limpid galleon]

ima turn it off

[brisk jolt]

ur tellin me u can train 6400c26 but not 6400c30 now

are we fr asrock board

[limpid galleon]

probably why i blue screened on fornite lol

[turbid locust]

LOL

[brisk jolt]

like bro hello are we deadass

[pure garnet]

watch ur 9800x3d do 6600 1:1 in the mpower

and the asrock board was so shit it impaired your cpu

[pure garnet]

that would be ideal but i can't figure out a good mount in a hyte y40

[turbid locust]

remember when Asrock was meta

[pure garnet]

and now im just retired to gear 1 on main

asrock has never been meta in my head

[brisk jolt]

6400c26 errored 7% in how tf is it gonna do 6600 regardless of asrock board or not

[pure garnet]

the only reason i owned the ocf is because it was cheap

[brisk jolt]

ok are we deadass on the c26 and not c30

[turbid locust]

They were solid around the AM4/z590 era

[brisk jolt]

im gonna reset cmos and put c26 if it trains it im done

[bronze mango]

Use aftermarket heatsinks tbh

[pure garnet]

i built my first pc diy in like 2019 so i think intel was just out of budget

i originally picked a b450 gigabyte board but swapped to the b450-f bc i was worried about parts being doa and it got stuck in shipping for a week

[bronze mango]

Asrock was pretty meta for arguably most gens after x58 depending on what you're doing

Oc formula line was always pretty goated

[turbid locust]

Yeah

Idk somehow they fell off hard after AM4

[bronze mango]

Haswell and Skylake era especially

[brisk jolt]

the bad thing about my b580 is that its in my itx build and I cant be bothered to take it out for this

[bronze mango]

Am4 they were mid, but am5 they've been the meta afaik

[turbid locust]

Hardly

[bronze mango]

Am4 they just made budget stuff

Am5 they've been kinda logging other companies on the voltage regulation you get per $

[turbid locust]

AM5 Asrock boards either have a terrible bios or were blowing up X3D chips lmao

Or both

[bronze mango]

Their bios is pretty easy to use tbh

I never got the asrock bios hate

Gigabyte and MSI are aids

[turbid locust]

I’m not talking about the UI

[bronze mango]

But Asus and asrock you need to be a humunculus to struggle with when using their bios

[turbid locust]

I’m talking about how it literally doesn’t do options you tell it too, can’t train ram for shit, etc

[bronze mango]

A good number of early records afaik were on cheap 2 dimmer asrocks

For am5

[turbid locust]

Doesn’t make em good boards to use dude

I own an HDV and am fairly competent

That board is MISERABLE to use

[bronze mango]

They don't have any ram training issues afaik unless it's something on newer bios

[pure garnet]

all that vrm for what though

the 90w cpus?

[bronze mango]

Vrms do more than just not blowing up or blowing up

They are regulators

[brisk jolt]

im using some fuckass paste since the 9950x3d arrived earlier than expected and my duronaut is still somewhere in logistics

[bronze mango]

Having a pretty consistent supply as loads fluctuate can be pretty useful when fine tuning

[brisk jolt]

imagine if this trains c26 like deadass

ive left it doing c30 x2 5 mins and both failed

[bronze mango]

What speed?

[brisk jolt]

6400

2133

[bronze mango]

If it's a dye that shouldn't be too hard to do

[brisk jolt]

@turbid locust @pure garnet im 99.99% sure the board is ragebaiting because it now refuses to do 6400 2133 C26, 30 and 32

[turbid locust]

checks out

the screenshot you sent earlier was 2000 FCLK tho

[pure garnet]

just run jedec till mpower tbh

[brisk jolt]

I was testing the vsoc fo 6000

I did boot 6400 2133 C26 once

it just errored like 4 seconds in

I know I did, because I accidentally booted 6400 2000 and immediately restarted to adjust to 2133

[proven saddle]

nice

[brisk jolt]

im gonna leave this overnight

[slim pebble]

Not going with a higher trefi?

[brisk jolt]

nvm 1.28 vsoc i go